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I claim this thread for CHAOS
1st and 2nd generation genestealer hybrids (female(xx)) doing very heretical things to inquisitors (male(xy))
>>96585577>Scylla Light Tank EditionThe creator behind the STL reconstruction made a height extender for anybody who complains about the scout sentinel tank being too short in height.>https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/scylla-base-extender
>>96585577>TQpunchy sentinel
>>96585585I don't know what the Xs and Ys mean but I hope it means the genestealer girls get big pps and the inquisition boy has big boobs
>>96585594quite the opposite
>>96585594That's 3rd generation
>>96585588>I just like tanks more than thosegoofy chicken-walker robotsTaste issue. Light tanks never should've been considered a reasonable proxy for sentinels anyway, you should use original rules or the classic ones.
>>96585577>What's the most obscure vehicle you know?There's a few, but I'd have to say the Ovvertrukk. I wish it would come back since hover tech is now all over the Imperium.
>>96585603That sounds boring make it the other way and it's kino
>>96585581this post should be a bannable offense
>>96585594>thick genestealer cultist feminizes and grooms skinny inquisition boy into the perfect breeding receptacleAnon stop, my peanits, it's going to become the big peanitz
The Tau navy needs to get more attention. At first I thought the Tau didn't have large ships, but that's not true at all, they're actually as big as Imperium ships, not quite as 'long' but much 'wider' by comparison (an Or'es El'leath-class Battleship is only 5.5 km long, but it's 7 km wide, whereas an Imperium battleship is around 10 to 12 km long typically but it's much more narrow). But we basically never actually get to see their navy win. And yeah most of this is cause for the fight to happen they can't just blow up the enemy before they land but still, give us something. If nothing else at least show off the industrial superiority of the Tau.
>>96585636Spam is a reportable offence.
>>96585636Weird way to self report that you've reported it
>>96585629This you?One day you'll understand that vanilla is the best flavour
>>96585641We don't see much of the naval fighting in the 40k universe because it barely interacts with the tabletop level of combat.
>>96585650I'm fine with just girls and boys fricking, it's just better when everyone has boobs
>>96585654naval warfare in an environment with orbit to surface capable craft with planet wide range is retarded. 40k 99% takes place in a setting where at least one side has orbital supremacy
>>96585650>that was 4 years agoGood Lord, how time flies.
>>96585647Explain the deldar faggot then. From how it's been explained to me on other boards spam is for when somebody is sending through the same post, over and over again within a close timeframe ala decalfag or tsportsfag. Avatarfagging is posting the same image once per thread or using it as a calling card/signature, like a forum avatar. I don't think he's spamming, so I don't think you'll get anywhere reporting him for spamming, but I also don't think it's avatarfagging if it's a single post per thread.
>>96585647That's not spam tourist-kun
>>96585650Did anyone even ask what the context was of the people at his LGS knowing his search history, I'm having difficulty imagining a scenario
>>96585682>Explain the deldar faggot then. Also spam. Less annoying spam, but spam all the same.
>>96585664Yeah it is retarded to do that. I wasn't complaining that 40k navy has no place on the tabletop, I was stating it had no place on the tabletop. It's like complaining that we don't get to use jamming drones in battleship, or be able to use anesthetic in operation
>>96585577idk the epic 40k IG stuff I guess? like the Ragnarok etc>its just a KV2>but with lascannons and a big 40k main gun
>>96585690bruh, did you read the whole screencap?
>>96585691>Less annoying spamIn what fucking world, are you retarded. Are they both annoying. Fuck yeah. But that deldar faggot has sent through 600 posts. The only person who would ever claim that deldar fag isn't annoying would be him, or himself when he samefags
>>96585691>>96585702neither of these are spam you retards1 post a thread isn't spamlurk moar
>>96585706Maybe I should start posting about dragons, destiny, and ai female primarchs once a thread
So looks like the two blueberry factions are gonna be fighting each other in the future. How do you think that'll go?
>>96585702>In what fucking worldDEldar spammer is a 40k fan who wants a 40k thing to happen.Baespammer is trying to shove his vtuber oshi into 40k because of a single point of connection; the word chaos.The latter is worse because of intent, which is why I said DEldar spammer is LESS annoying (you can't read and apparently thought I said it wasn't annoying). Baespammer is trying to push off-topic stuff, which is why it's worse.
>>96585712>two blueberry factionsYou mean the Ultramarines space marines and the T'au?
>>96585647first time in a general buddy?
>>96585693I agree but I was just adding the sauce that it doesnt make sense from a setting perspective either. Not in rules abstraction or fluff.
>>96585685>>96585706>>96585722Spam does not mean spamming a lot of posts in a single thread only. Making a single post in a thread but repeating it every thread still counts as spam.
>>96585732go ahead and report it and get proven wrong then tourist
>lorefags>dramafags
>>96585711you're the only one bitching about this stuff so do it
>>96585715Correct.My general assumption would be that one of two things happens:1) They fight for a bit, Guilliman steps in, he decides fighting is stupid, and some sort of pseudo-alliance is formed 2) The Tau invade a bunch of worlds, then Guilliman pushes them back partially but not all of the way, the Tau finish the expansion sphere having shaved some of Ultramar's border worlds away from it.
Someone please help me, I feel like I'm going fucking insane. I remember a long time ago I saw a clip (I think of an animated Star Wars show) that had a T'au vessel in one shot for a few seconds but I can't find it anywhere, like it was a weird easteregg or stolen 3D model or something. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
>>96585745I would kiss the feet of the big robot lady
Do you guys have any recommendations for a lightbox or something? I want something to take nice pictures of my dudesAlso post models if you want
>>96585647>he doesn't acknowledge the mousengmi
>>96585761working on trying to magnetize this guy b4 i go to bed
>>96585702>636 resultsImpressive. Model-posters and fake model-posters ("Look, I bought some old Black Legion models and a Codex off ebay!") could never create anything of this magnitude.
Does anyone know a good way to get motivated with hobby work again? I feel like whenever I have time off I can at the most clip some bits off sprues, anything else feels insurmountable. Ideas?
>>96585756I think that's supposed to be an incarnation of the Greater Good goddess.
>>96585581Witnessed.
>>96585647I will ascend soon
>>96585739The thread is going to start one of three ways>someone posts models and are immediately torn apart blowing up the start of the thread >someone gets in a retarded lore argument blowing apart the start of the thread>someone gets in a retarded drama argument owing up the start of the threadRoll a d3, one of those options will happen in the first 75 posts of every thread
>>96585743You were literally batching about the vtuberfag how is it different
>>96585789It's clearly a Necron tomb. so I thought it a necron lord. But then it also has the tau face thing in the forehead. And all the arms are matching, not of different species... and the loincloth has necron markings... what the fuck is happening.
>>96585778danmn you got some nasty ass nails what the fuck
>>96585822its paint from earlier today
>>96585789>>96585818Guys the image is suggesting that the Tau Goddess is secretly a C'Tan.
>>96585761Cheap Amazon ones are great. You want a nice tight knit backdrop as well as the ones that come with them suck. I really like ultrapro white playmats for mtg cause they're cheap and easily accesible and fit perfectly in my lightbox >also post modelsDon't have to ask me twice
>>96585825Thats retarded though because the only time we've seen the Tau goddess thing was in the warp when it protected the fleet from a Death Guard/Nurgle Demon attack.
>>96585780>brings up random modelposter out of nowhere Rent free unironically
>>96585824Ignore him he's just trying to find anything he can to shit on you, he does it to everyone
>>96585831it's one /v/ermin seething about being BTFO'd by that guy's chunky highlighted BLlet him make a fool of himself
>>96585778Are you actually a big booty cosplay latina like anon said last thread?
>>96585789This artist sucks so bad dude
>>96585828>the only time we've seen the Tau goddess thing was in the warp when it protected the fleet from a Death Guard/Nurgle Demon attackThe C'Tan might not have been the one who created the Ethereal's and the Greater Good, just someone that's stepped in to co-opt it very recently.
>>96585837Obviously, still funny though
How successful would Warhammer 40k manga be?
>>96585861depneds, is it actually been made by a mangaka, or just a bunch of comic books writers calling it a manga because they have no confidence in their work.
>>96585837>that guy's>third-person demonstrative pronoun
>>96585861depends on who's writing and most good mangaka aren't actually that interested in writing for a brand
>>96585865>is it actually been made by a mangakaWhat mangaka would be best for the task?>or just a bunch of comic books writers calling it a manga because they have no confidence in their work.I never thought of it from that specific angle. At most I thought BL would just hire some Japanese mangaka to adapt an already written BL book and then we'd see how terrible the BL book really is when good visuals can't save it.
>>96585869Yes you've already proven yourself to be so mindbroken by him that you assume everybody laughing at you must be him
>>96585846Its an old mid 2000s theory that Tau are uncorrupted Necrons.
>>96585874>himClean your home... room, hovel, whatever.
>>96585870>most good mangaka aren't actually that interested in writing for a brandNot to mention that now that I think about it I think GW would treat them less than dirt.But still Warhammer 40k is just so over the top that a manga adaptation not being done somewhat surprises me. Probably because mangakas are expensive and books need to be pumped out quickly to keep the money rolling in.
>>96585861A good shonen mangaka could do cool stuff with the eldar and harlequins since they could have very interesting fights with their flips and gymnastics in their movement.
>>96585702The only thing annoying about is that his ritual post doesnt get banned but mine did, which makes me think its a janny/mod doing it. Not that I really care.
>>96585878This is just sad, maybe buy some models and spend some time engaging with the hobby instead of crying about those who do
>>96585875Maybe this C'Tan learned that and has now decided to groom the Tau into new bodies for a second biotransference.
>>96585887Granted I'm surprised that GW isn't going all in on comic book adaptations for their novels either to further milk the labors of their writers.If I had to guess, it is probably because artists are expensive.
>>96585890This forum can smell the cat piss emanating from your posts. It's disgusting.
>>96585838i dont see how that matters but yea i do cosplay and once my army is done being built i want to do a sister of battle cosplay
>>96585897>everybody I don't like is the same personbuy the models fag
>>96585897Nobody is on your side /v/ermin
>>96585889Nah, he does all of the tricks to not get banned.The post is technically on topic because it is about an upcoming expected occurrence within the hobby.He never posts it at the beginning or end of a thread for minimal visibility.He never responds to any of the people directly that call them out so minimal, flaming or trolling occurs that would draw a janny with multiple reported posts.He always uses a different picture so it doesn't show up as identical posting in their system even if it does use the exact same wording.Like nothing he does is technically breaking any rules even if you squint.
>>96585577>What's the most obscure vehicle you know?I think it's the chinork? or the armoured train from imperial armour.
>>96585873>What mangaka would be best for the task?we had the perfect man, but we lost him :"(
>>96585827>Cheap Amazon ones are great.how much did yours set you back?
>>96585910Alright I was not expecting to get deep feels, and you still gave them to me anon.
Just traded some neglected models for some 'crons and an Overlord.Woke up and wanted to own some metal skeletons. Is this like waking up suddenly heterosexual?
>>96585922>Is this like waking up suddenly heterosexual?You'll never understand what that's like.
>>96585899Post cosplay if real.
>>96585929um most recent one ive done is this one but i tend to work alot...i really want to finish up my army and do tabletop before anything else
>>96585761>post modelsHelped put this monstrosity together for the Chaos Knight player in the group. Features a snake spine.His newborn child will have some trauma with this leering over their crib.
>>96585936>NTA butI respect that you actually posted.
>>96585936
>>96585910Alright who is plan "b" for making a 40k manga now that he is gone?
>>96585936>big booty cosplay latinabut are you a big booty cosplay latina (male)
>>96585936shave your pits nona
>>96585947the only difference between a manga and a comic would be that everyone here would give the manga a ton of wiggle room and jerk if off because its japanese meanwhile if the comic had a female guardsmen we'd get a million culture war videoes about it
>>96585947This guy, dunno his name cause im not a fucking nerd but his fights were creative and interesting and the action speed fights how I imagine 40k fights should go. He
>>96585936post cock and balls now
>>96585954Edgecoc was the Benposter and then he suddenly decided been was actually carnacLuckily the real edgecoc is still mia and his imitator as annoying as it is is still not as bad
>>96585952>the only difference between a manga and a comic would be that everyone here would give the manga a ton of wiggle room and jerk if off because its japaneseDamn right.>meanwhile if the comic had a female guardsmen we'd get a million culture war videoes about itDouble damn right.But really I'd bet that GW would play it safe and look at one of their more successful BL books and just have it get manga visuals.
>>96585953is that jjk, that manga is absolute dog water
>>96585961I haven't heard the dog water slang in a long time.
>>96585961Yes, it has great and cool imagery with his domain expansion and his use of cursed spirits and their designs could be translated to Warp beings and daemons and general pysker stuff.
>>96585958>But really I'd bet that GW would play it safe and look at one of their more successful BL books and just have it get manga visuals.The lionshare of warhammer lore being in novels is a net good for the community, you don't want retards to have access to easily skimable versions of books.on twitter people have started ironically agenda posting about warhammer, and the only reason it is even tolerable is because none of them are deeper than surface level takes of iconic moments
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>96585965>on twitter people have started ironically agenda posting about warhammerYou mean unironically? It can be a bit hard to tell whether the agenda-posting is genuine or not and nerds will use any IP to push a social agenda.
>>96585964I was paid to read jjk, and genuinely I liked it better before I read it. I thought domain expansions were worse bankai, binding vows are never explained and the truth scene from FMA does a much better job being what you'd expect, and the characters were terrible.I definitely do think some people dead ass have domains, like the lion does in his 30k novella (search "the lion is the master of all his domains") but I think the warp is a bit too esoteric to be in shonen slop
>>96585904You are the /v/ermin.
>>96585972the person whos started it was doing it ironically
>>96585970If Vect came back and in an accurate way to his old model rules he would be primarch level. He was the best fighter the dark eldar have and tanky. I don't think most nu-40k fans could handle a xenos leader being as powerful as their precious primarchs and of course making him outright better than any space marine
>>96585970I believe this.
>>96585978>N-no uIf you weren't a shitskinned nomodels you wouldn't be seething rent free about some dude's badly painted models weeks later lmao
>>96585910not reallyToriyama prefers his stories to be more whimsical with a little raunchneither which are warhammer
>>96585970You just had your refresh, bro. Did you remember to say "Thank you sir may I have another?"
>>96585973>I was paid to read jjk,I gonna need a explanation for this anon>I think the warp is a bit too esoteric to be in shonen slopIts the 'other dimension for space travel' and beings can come out of it, hell JJK spirits stem from emotions from living people already so I really think it wouldn't be hard at all to put it in shonen slop
It's a pretty normie take, but i don't know too many mangaka by name, but Tatsuki Fujimoto would definitely be a good pick for any story that deals with the warp or just general grimdarkness of the imperium.Fire Punch's world building is a great at showing a world where humanity is doing holding no bars in their struggle to survive, and the shit people that are able to wiggle into that system. And Chainsaw man is also great if you want an idea of the mundane, bullshit and absolutely terrifying demons are.>>96585989You'reright, but if you gave him a story about a leman russ crew i'm sure he'd have a blast just drawing the machinery.
>>96585881at beast just get a studio to do an anime or game adaptationmight be hard because warhammer isn't really relevant in japan so the artists wouldn't be to familiar and thus not really passionate in the product
>>96585991>I gonna need a explanation for this anonI write scripts for videoes, someone really wanted to do jjk content so they paid me to read it so I could help write scripts >Its the 'other dimension for space travel' and beings can come out of it, hell JJK spirits stem from emotions from living people already so I really think it wouldn't be hard at all to put it in shonen slopits more like platos world of forms, abnett and the dark coil guy whos name I can't spell do the best job of illustrating the scope and terror that the warp would have
>>96585994just seeing his takes on warhammer tanks would be cool
>>96585989So it seems that Toriyama isn't an option, and neither is Gege Akutami. If I had to be honest maybe the perfect mangaka for making a Black Library book in manga form adaptation or original Black Library Manga should be a washed up mangaka willing to take on any job involving his profession. As sad as it may be. I don't think any mangaka is gonna willingly work for GW unless desperately in need of some money.
Since we're on the talk of warhammer manga, could you anyone recommend me some grimdark or just warhammer adjacent anime/manga
>>96586003there's still plenty of mangaka who do licensed stuff but you're not gonna get anyone really famous doing adaptationsmaybe get them to do designs for a game or a promotion but that's it
>>96585873the attack on titan guy would be pretty decent>actually plans his stories out fully before starting>loves drawing brutality whenever he can>fetishistic focus on the mechanisms of contraptions and equipment
the vigilius book has some really cool art
>>96586010Yeah I figured that would be the case. Now maybe the solution is to look into the hentai industry and nab an assistant or hentai artist who wants to break into the mainstream manga sphere.
>>96585936>cosplay>it's just softcore porn outfit
tabletop gaming just doesn't seem that popular in japan in the first place, especially wargamingnot even miniature painting when model building is already popular
>>96586018>Bunny suit>Softcore porn outfitNeo-puritans are so tiresome
>>96585990Do you really want to invite a ritual poster to start saying that in every single thread from now until the end of time?
>>96585647>archivefag
>>96586024I have a feeling that GW's pricing is why tabletop gaming isn't very popular in Japan. Compare the amount of sprues you get out of the average 40k set versus a Bandai mecha kit.
>>96586006Grimdark anime either leans too edgy or misses the mark. Xianxia and wuxia is more of what you want.
>>96585702>In what fucking world, are you retarded. Are they both annoying.oh no, he posted cool 40k art 636 times
>>96586025
>>96586025NTA but literally yes. Bunny Suits care softcore.
>>96586025Its was literally made for strippers and popularized by a porn magazine you retard...
>>9658602840000 yen is a reasonable price for a battle force box, right?
>>96586028it doesn't even need to come from GW, WotC or whateverjapan doesn't even have much of a culture around table top roleplaying or even wargamingnot much of a culture around wargaming is kind of surprising since they have so many wars in their history to draw from
>>96586025How do you reconcile in your mind it not being a softcore porn outfit when it's been the signature outfit of one of the most famous softcore porn magazines for fucking decades?
>>96586030My eyes glaze over when when ever i see anything regarding chinese cultivation
>>96585702>archivefagging
>>96586042>40000 yenThat's 372.72 Canadian Dollars so probably still expensive.>>96586043I think there is a warhammer scene in Japan, but it is mostly foreigners that come together. But I see your point. Japan has an illustrious and bloodstained history. You'd think that maybe there would be a wargaming scene there.
>>96586046Generally I feel the same way about bl
>>96585936How fat is your dick
Does anyone remember what the Tau lore regarding how the Ethereals feel about the Tau goddess is again? I remember hearing something about Shadowsun being told to destroy temples to her, but I also remember something about the Ethereals seeing the goddess as a potential ally
>tau lore
>>96586059the ethereals want to bury everything concerning the 4th fleet's happenings, at face value to safeguard the stability and morale of the tau empire at large do they believe the reports are true? did they know about that thing all along? do they care about its rise or of the religion amongst the auxiliaries? answers aren't given but everything must be kept under control and brought back to the status quo
>>96586055i dont have a penis sorry im cis
>>96586064Would cum on her face.
>>96585988>"they're all seething" xe says to xirzelf.
>>96586072What has possessed you to come to this website?
>>96586076Hey buddy I'll give you a 2/10 for effortI hope you apply yourself next time and realize nobody believes there's more than one person this ass blasted over getting disproven on a nomodels claim a month ago Take that other anon's advice and spend some time hobbying instead of crying on 4chan
>>96586072why tf is there another women ITT...
>>96586079i want to learn how to play 40k and paint my models decently .....
>>96586089shhhhh you'll summon the gsc slut again
>>96586080>disproven
>>96586072Cute balls
how common is it for someone to buy a full chapters worth of marines?
>>96586094That was a long ass time ago
>>96586100??
>>96586105not very
>>96586099Keep seething nomodels
>>96586099>>96586118whoever posts their tits wins this gay argument.
>>96586118Keep confusing "casting doubt" with "nobody gives a shit."
Are there any YouTubers that dedicates themselves to chaos space marines
>>96586127i know one that dedicates everything to chaos.
>>96586059>>96586068There is a split in opinions among the Ethereals. Fourth Sphere Ethereals want her dead. The Rest of the Ethereals, though unsettled by her, have different opinions. Obviously, she is a threat to the Ethereal position in the Empire, but she could be an asset, as Shadowsun showed them.The Ethereal Aun'La, Commander Surestrike, and Shadowsun discuss the goddess in an Elemental Council. So members of the T'au high command are aware of her existence.
>>96586132>Doakes.jpg
>>96585577Almost the entire Ork walker line that isn't the Sompa or Gargant:>Digga Stompas>Supa Stompas>Mekboy Gargants>Great GargantsAnd my personal favorite:>Mega GargantYou also have the Ork Submersible such as pic rel that is pretty funky and seldom talkes about if at all.
Why is the Imperium's Navy so advanced compared to the Imperial Guard? Case in point, on the ground the Tau tend to outmatch the Imperium by quite a bit, pulse rifles are on-par with bolters and that's their standard infantry rifle, Fire Warrior armor is basically call carapace-tier and that's considered the worst armor they're willing to use, Imperial Guard soldiers get upgraded to Veterans if they survive long enough, but Tau Fire Warriors get upgraded to straight up battlesuits. There's definitely a technology gap that, outside of pulling a rare Emperor Class Titan into the battlefield or some other rare archaeotech they can barely recreate, tends to favor the Tau.But that's not the case Navy wise. A railgun is considered pretty advanced on the ground where it punches bigass holes in things and even shreds the gene-seeds of Space Marines, but in the navy...it's just another gun. Like, Tau ships aren't worse than Imperial Navy ships (at least the dedicated Tau warships)...but they're not better either. Which would indicate that the Imperial Navy hasn't really decayed at all. It's still keeping up all the same advanced technology that it once had.
So I probably shouldn’t but warptalons anytime soon huh
>>96586152Wrong pic, meant to post this
>>96586152idk what this is but its kind of hot...
>>96586152>pulse rifles are on-par with bolters and that's their standard infantry rifle,Pulse Rifles shots travel at the speed of light and have more stopping power than bolters. Older marks of the Pulse Rifle couldn't punch through marine power armor. The newer marks of the Pulse Carbine/Rifles now easily tear through power armor.The Navy lore has been neglected since BFG died but from context clues we can say that the T'au navy in the Third Sphere Expansion fleets did pretty well against the Imperial Navy and kept them on the backfoot for the majority of the war.
>>96585889I'd imagine thedunkposter stopped because he was getting banned a bunch, there were a bunch of times his post would get shot and the refreshfags would stay up
>>96585914Like 30-40cad? I can't remember cause it was a gift someone bought for me that I'd just asked for for Christmas one year. It wasn't much cause I only give cheap gift ideas to the person I got it from
>>96586152pulse rifles are better than boltersif you're talking about battlefleet gothic stats it's because the fleets, despite their aesthetic differences, are hardly allowed significant stats differences because the size of the fleet was pretty uniform, since as a product, gw wanted fleets of similar sizes in order to sell a similar amount of pieces per playertau are not more advanced than other factions, they have a better distribution of their own high end technologies, meanwhile the imperium has an extremely high ceiling for their top tier technologies but those are irreplaceable relics that aren't even understood or are not reproducible at the scale the imperium operates atthe life of the average man in the imperium is worthless because there are untold trillions of themthe life of the average tau fire warrior has to be protected because the tau are a small empire
>>96586167>tau are not more advanced than other factions,The lore outright says that the Tau are technologically superior to the Imperium with only the Admech being able to match and exceed the Tau in some aspects.Some of the DAoT technology is trash compared to what the Tau currently have.
Primaris Lieutenant after grinding the Bastior Sub-sector for 7,000 hours.
is my painting getting at least marginally better ? :(
>>96586186It's like you didn't even read my post I'm underlining a difference between the average distributed tech level and the highest possible tech levelof course the tau have the superior average, but they're still an inexperienced civilisation that has not toyed with some of the stuff the higher ends of what mankind achieved in the daot, and that still gets to use in the 41st millennium, albeit sporadically
>>96586193You won't see an improvement over the course of one miniature, even if it's a big miniature.Keep grinding and trust the process.
>>96586193put the can of Bang in that pelvis
>>96586198According to the Imperial guard codexes, the Imperial tanks are DAoT technology. As it is known, Imperial tanks are garbage compared to Hammerheads. Even the Imperial super heavies are dumpstered by Tau suits.The Tau on the other hand are dabbling on the high end fields of DAoT. They can blow up stars (something the Imperium can't), they have temporal weapons, etc.
>>96586193>bang energyno wonder your ass is so fat also like the other anon said, keep painting you can only see improvement as you go along, keep the paints thin and dont do too many layers
>>96585939Metal as fuck.
>tfw cant allow myself to get EC minis until I actually look good>gotta lose 6kg, get hair and either contact lenses or better glassesfugggggg
>>96586207Jesus Christ, dude, I'm not asking you to do something difficult, just read.I'm not talking about all imperial techI'm not talking about the average imperial tech I'm not talking about all daot technor I'm talking about the average daot tech If you want to be blind, keep being so
>>96586230>get hair
>>96586186>>96586167Alright let's just go through this one by one.>RiflesTau tech is better. Pulse rifles/carbines, pulse blasters, rail rifles, they got all kinds of shiny toys.>Infantry armorFrom what little is given about it, from what I can tell it's essentially Carapace-tier armor, but more lightweight. But that said, the Imperium has Carapace-tier armor and knows how to build more of it, they just don't because they don't particularly value the lives of Guardsmen and it's cheaper to use Flak Armor. So...tech is about equal, but the Tau's is better distributed.>Genetic engineeringThe Tau don't really have an equivalent to Space Marines, they do have some life-extension tech IIRC but their philosophy tends to skew away from using it too much. Generally speaking they rely on robotics instead of muscle.>Industry & InfrastructureAnother area where the Tau are just plainly better.The Imperium's industry is vastly under-automated, both from a combination of ideology and simply having lost the tech. Although the Tau's AI isn't Men of Iron tier, it is more than sufficient to automate much of the industry of their society and thus vastly increase their industrial capabilities despite a relatively small population comparatively. Additionally, the Tau are building ecumenopolises housing trillions of people without them becoming pollution-filled hive worlds, and they're building massive space stations for billions of Air Caste. The Imperium does have remnants of a great industry and infrastructure but it's clearly aging and falling apart under lack of maintenance and know-how.
>>96586239>VehiclesTbh if anyone knows more about this tell me cause I'm actually not sure about this one.But from what little I know, it seems like the Tau have better vehicles. Hammerheads are supposed to be better than Leman Russ's IIRC, focused more on speed and a high-power railgun compared to the Leman Russ's extra turrets and relative spammability. And we do tend to see the Tau have air dominance more often than not, and the fact that they have the air equivalent of a titan is rather telling on that front. But I've also heard other people say that Tau stuff is just Imperial reskins so...I'm leaning towards the Tau on this one but back me up or tell me otherwise if you know more.>WalkersHot take: The Tau have better walkers.At every single level the Tau's walkers seem to be better than the Imperium's equivalent, to the point it actually makes comparison a little difficult because you're not sure whether to slot them into a higher or lower tier. Like sure, a Stormsurge will take out Knights fairly easily, but it's far too small to be compared to a Titan. The Crisis battlesuit is too spammable to be compared to a Dreadnought but the Riptide is too powerful to be compared to it fairly. Tau walker tech feels like it's half a step up. Yes, they don't have an equivalent to an Emperor Class Titan...but they don't need one per se. Get half a dozen Stormsurges together and they could probably take that out.>NavyOkay so...the Tau Navy really is nothing special. For now.This really is just an area where the Tau need a lore update desu. Cause their navy tends to get dunked on a lot in the name of facilitating boarding actions or ground combat. It feels like we got told that the Tau were building a dedicated combat navy and then afterwards nothing much came out of it other than whatever Battlefleet Gothic came up with.
>>96586230>ec>get hairBetween corpse-grease-mop Eidolon, boldly-bald Lucius, and male-pattern-maxing Fabius, Fulgrim is the only one of note with good hair.
>usual avatarfags stop being obnoxious for one thread>instead we get a cgl attentionwhore siderailing the generalI swear this place is cursed
>>96586193Unironically yeah. This is much tidier, amd the order your doing things will lead to a much easier timer I promise
>>96586252You keep replying to them instead of reporting them for offtopic so that's what you get.
>>96586252do you plan on making it worse or posting something better?
>>96586152I mean even just stuff the imperium can mass produce they have far better tech than the Tau. Teleportation, far far better shield tech, hover tech, better armor. The IG tech isn't shitty, or weak. It's designed for logistics. For arming as many available bodies and being as easily repaired as possible for the massive wars of attrition the imperium fights. Like the leader of the Tau empire was killed by a single imperial assassin. Who used reproducible tech.
Would I need corks to elevate HH minis or could I just run them as is for 40k loyalists? Or would I be triggering someones autism by running 30k stuff in 40k?
>>96586267So basically the Imperium has shitty industrial and infrastructure tech, so they make up for otherwise terrible logistics by using easy to supply weapons, and where that's not needed they use more advanced tech.
>>96586072This would be better if it was 40k cosplay.
>>96586252which avatarfags doko?
>>96586290anon mistakes modelposting and ritualposting for avatarfaggotry
>>96586300and here come the apologists lmao
Does the average 40Kfaggot seethe if you turn up to the FLGS with a printed army because you're not a good consumer/"true fan"? Been having an idea for a CSM warband, but my idea for them is only possible if I bit/conversion/print my entire army.
>>96586267No. You are wrong. Tau anti-grav is better while anti-grav in the Imperium is rare and barely understood.Stealth technology of the Tau is betterTheir shield tech is more widespread and better.Their sensor technology is described as better.>>96586244A single hammerhead can solo a dozen leman russes.>The Tau don't really have an equivalent to Space Marines, they do have some life-extension tech IIRC but their philosophy tends to skew away from using it too much. Generally speaking they rely on robotics instead of muscle.Tau bio-tech is superior. They have a superb cloning program and use it to augment their reproduction. They have life extending nanodrones, created cyborg nano-viruses, etc.Whereas the Genestealer codexes say that Imperial medical knowledge is dismal
Are there any tau players itt that can help me with my retaliation cadre list?
>>96586314>while anti-grav in the Imperium is rare
>>96586251Fulgrim has great hair though. Like a young Sebastian Bach.
>>96586323A sister says that anti-grav tech is rare outside hover skulls and whatnot. Compared to the Tau, who use it for everything from their vehicles and furniture. Show me an Imperial anti-grav tank.
>>96586304I'm not defending either, retard
>>96586314you went full retard here, shaskais
>>96586334>a-actually it means>shifting goalpostsI accept your concession.
I wish tau dropped the commie shit and the equally gay laser rifles for actual boolets.
Tau tech is higher floor and lower ceiling. It’s pretty simple.
>>96586354The Tau are fascists, not commies.
>>96586343What goalpost? The Goalpost remains that anti-grav tech is rare in the Imperium.
>>96586360Anti-grav isn't rare.
>>96586235hair transplant, hair system if needed, those things exist you know>>96586251Sure but them being bald doesnt matter, if you paint Slaanesh and EC being bald just marks you into the coomer zone, if youre handsome its fine
>>96586334The Repulsor
>>96586308Why play at a store in the first place?
>>96586359idgaf, they have a caste systems thats gay as fuck and they are equally ugly af. Not to mention they're tech is so fucking stagnant. GW tried making a mecha faction without realizing what makes them tick (technological escalation, individual narratives, big fucking guns, even bigger melee weapons for the mechs.) If they wanted to make them some gay auxiliary shit they should have stuck with that from the get go instead of the disappointment it is now.
>>96586359commies can be fascist too
>>96585725Not the same anon, but that's one of the things that i cant really wrap my head around, along with the irrelevance of aircrafts, heavy artillery and basically any other kind of long range stuff.I mean angry chainsword guys and even titans shouldnt be that scary when the state of warfare we know has developed quite some tools to blast tough stuff apart from tens of miles away
>>96586375Not anti-grav. It destroys the ground beneath it. A CSM mistook it for anti-grav and got flattened when he went under it.>>96586364The sister was malding that the Tau were using such a rare and sacred tech for mundane purposes.
>>96586385Yeah I can see why people complain about digitial art now. its as bad as some 7th edition fb shit and early aos stuff.
>>96586388And the sister is wrong and retarded.Anti-grav isn't rare within the Imperium and never was.
>>96586072I doubt that's actually you but on the off chance that it is I applaud your bravery for posting that here. Could you maybe post proof with a time stamp or a model in your tits or ass or something?
>>96586388Repulsor tanks are anti-grav.
>>96586385>the homoerotic urge to drive your long range battle tanks as close as possible to each other's rival tank commander battletank
>>96584924glue anon herei swapped the carpet tiles to move the glue ones under my bed but my room smelt like tamiya cement and mum found it. mum grounded me but let me keep painting my models (and using my glue?) so it's a dubby?
Going through some of my old saved codexes and i'm getting nostalgic about the absolute bullshit that you could run.I remeber seeing space marines and even ork armies running this formation because it was just that fucked.
>>96586414why are the hands flat
>>96586388It literally is anti-grav though, if they are using it differently it’s not suddenly something else.
>>96586308Noone would give a shit unless MAYBE its an official GW store manager, you're confusing things with MtG and proxies there being somehow controvertial.
>>96586424Battlesuite hands are compacted into their arms while not in use.
>painting up my EC army>have painted 3 winged Princes, 10 Tormentors,10 infractors, Lucius, 6 Flawless blades, 1 Rhino and 2 exultants>have Urge to now build a World Eaters ArmyAGHHHHHH!
>>96586441from microfaction to microfaction
>>96586207>The Tau on the other hand are dabbling on the high end fields of DAoTlollmao even
>>96586448Show me where the Imperium can blow up stars and reverse the flow of time.
forgot how hard this image goes
>>96586448That's...actually not wrong. The Tau do have some crazy shit up at the higher tiers. Whether it be a battlesuit that can single-handedly wipe out a Space Marine chapter monastery or a Star-Killer weapon (amusingly they actually did that by accident, IIRC they were trying to mine the star or something when they discovered that effect), or just straight up AI.
>>96586384titans and fortresses have void shields and other features that make them hard targets. mortars will always be useful for infantry, even if they can be obliterated from orbit by macro cannon. But you have to consider cost to benefit. It doesnt really make sense for a macro cannon to shoot a space marine because thats just an insane amount of investment to kill one guy. Also 40k has actually written a fair few space naval engagements in lore and warzone and imperial armor stuff and explained why space navies usually cant sit in low orbit providing direct support to their forces. Usually space navies will sit on opposite sides of the planet in geosynchronous orbit from each other because its too big a risk from either side to fight a direct naval engagement, because if they lose they lose everything.
>>96586394Let's check what ChatGPT has to say:>Antigrav in the Imperium is highly rare and unevenly distributed, primarily limited to technologically advanced Forge Worlds, wealthy Civilised Worlds, and Space Marine Chapters, due to lost knowledge and logistical challenges in its mass production. While Land Speeders and some Primaris tanks represent its military use, civilian applications exist on richer worlds, often as grav-skimmers for personal transport or in specialized industrial settings. The technology, a relic from the Dark Age of Technology, remains a difficult, "lost art" in the late 41st Millennium, with any advancement beyond salvaged STCs being a monumental and rare achievement. >The Imperium has lost the widespread ability to construct advanced antigrav devices, relying on salvaged STCs from the Dark Age of Technology to restore certain capabilities.
Hello, gay gamer here..I heard from the Battletech guys that this game would be a better fit for me, so I was just wondering what is some gay stuff you can do in this game? I'm gay
>>96586469
>>96586377>If they wanted to make them some gay auxiliary shit they should have stuck with that from the get goBut that's exactly, explicitly how they started, half of their army were Kroot. Mecha expansion came later, in 2011, if counting Forge World. Admittedly this mecha autism was brief. DoW1 is still popular and it's how Tau are in it, you can check it out at any moment.
>>96586473i think you must be mistaken, if you want gay stuff you want to go 3 threads down to the trench crusade general.
>>96586480No this is definitely the place, they said where towfags (sic?) and marinefags hang out and I LOVE fit men
>>96586469shut up clanka
>>96586483There are no fit men in /40kg/, only fat men, twinks and thick latinas
>>96586473You came to the right place, pal!
>>96586483best i can do is cute chaos gods.
>>96586441>3 winged PrincesI have never felt the need to bring more than one prince to a game in my life. Fuck do you need three for? I could see two, one on foot and one with wings, but you went with wings on all three.
>>96586497Its the meta for ec, please understand
>>96586483Sorry, turns out its TAUfags. My mistake. They definitely look like an army for me!
>>96586469Fuck off Rosa Sparks.
This thread is dead.
>>96586509I could post some models if you'd like. Just reposts though.
>>96586462>He doesn’t even have FTL travel
>>96586514According to recent lore they have unlocked FTL.
>>96586513That doesn't fix anything and is largely part of the problem.This general is dead, it's a shambling corpse of its former self, only being reanimated by shitposting, vitriol and the occasional glimpse to the past of what it had been.
>>96586028>>96586043I think a lot of Western stuff is still pretty niche in Japan, like how anime was 20 years ago in the West. Why play Warhammer when you can do Gundam models instead, which appeals more to their Asian psyche. That and Gundam models are engineered pretty well, aren't as expensive as Warhammer, and don't require painting and a whole table setup to play on. In their small ass bug cubicle apartments they have no room. Better to play Switch or goon instead.
>>96586043>japan doesn't even have much of a culture around table topNigga
>>96586535It's mainly card games.
>>96586529Doomposting today are we?
>>96586529Eh, I've been here for 5 years and it has always been like this. Shitposting frequency ebbs and flows depending on if there is new stuff to discuss, but the average thread quality stays the same.With the collages happening, now is actually pretty good (as long as you don't engage with the avatarfags).
>>96586467Might not be a huge investment if you want to destroy their transports and leave them pinned (which should be good anyway, considering how valuable even a single space marines is compared to the ordinary human in 40k) or if you're facing hordes.As for spaceships there are lots of instances where they are used as the main tools to do the heavy lifting in ground fights: in the RT setting you have macrobatteries specifically designed to nuke objectives on the ground aswell as other things that can just fire from outside orbit (such as the long range lances). If i recall correctly in the lore there are several mentions of planets and even forgeworlds laid barren by spaceship fire alone (outside exterminatus). I mean i get you could simply look at standard 40k games as slightly bigger combat patrol games, so assets as mass artilley, aviation and spaceships dont come into play, but then GW should just avoid putting stuff like the Fleet commander enhancement, because a fuckton of kilotonnes of ordnance just doing D3 mortals across 12" feels extra dumb
>Three Tyrannic Wars>Each corresponds with a major Hive Fleets>Except for the Fourth Tyrannic War>It's just Leviathan....again
>>96586308i regularly play against armies that are entirely third party or printed models no one cares lmao
>>965865405 years isn't much, by 2020 the rot had already set in.Go back 15 years and the board was much, much different.
>>96586561>He doesn't know
>>96586308Wouldn't playing 40k make you a "40kfaggot" as well?
>>96586568Did it have so much metathread drama and namefaggotry back then too?
I saw that they removed unique loadouts for units and leaders and its like why even fucking bother with this game anymore lel, that and vehicles being better than infantry at holding those new command points or whatever it just looks like shit
It took me 2 weeks to decide on a paint scheme.
>>96586443That's the charm actually.
>>96586590Yes and no. Old 4chan actually had soul and was mostly young people. Most of tg now is old chuds who have nowhere else to go. Of course there were trolls and namefags, but there were also way more memes and artists and quest threads. A lot of the fun of old 4chan is a bannable offense now and the joke is played out anyway.
>>96586565>>96586308I could imagine some narrow minded store owners might care if someone comes to play regularly, but never buys miniatures. It would be unreasonable, but such people certainly exist. Other players.. sure, spergs exist everywhere, but most are pretty chill.
>>96586593holy no games
>>96586590>metathread dramaTo be fair 99% of that is caused by one guy. You know who I'm talking about.
>>96586596Show it to us.
>>96586561>it was actually meant to be typhon but gw didn't want to change the studio's main scheme>the third tyrannic war only 'ended' because leviathan was scattered by the rift, with the rest being stuck in octarius, but leviathan now won octarius and regrouped the scattered forceschoose your poison
>>96586606D-don't laugh...
>>96586607>didn't want to change the studio's main schemeThat actually will become a bigger issue over time. The main faction paint schemes are settled: It will always be Ultramarines, always Leviathan, always Black Legion, always Cadians etc..
>>96586611
>>96586616it's only an issue if you think there are going to be significant shifts in the settingthere won't be
>>96586607>>the riftI keep forgetting that exists.
>>96586611there is literally nothing wrong with ultramarines anon there's a good reason they're the box art paint scheme
>>96586611could be worse could be green
>>96586611Good choice, anon. Everybody tries to avoid doing the posterboys, so in the end they're actually rare to see in the wild
>>96586624Of course not, but the Galaxy is vast, and those factions should not be everywhere at once and GW could easily focus on other factions from time to time, without it ever having a big impact to the setting in its entiretly.
>>96586629>could be worse>could be green
>>96586631>Of course not, but the Galaxy is vast, and those factions should not be everywhere at once
>>96586611It's a cool scheme but you must be the most boring person in a couple mile radius
>accidentally left my air compressor on overnight >woken up at 3am to the sound of it firing up
>>96586633I'm talking about the armor, you gitgreen skin is fine, even on marines, but green armored factions are gay
>>96586630>so in the end they're actually rare to see in the wildIts true, but they are still kinda boring to look at. Not my business, but i would at least paint a company with different colours than gold.
>>96586607>>it was actually meant to be typhon but gw didn't want to change the studio's main schemeTyphon was meant to be the new "main hivefleet"?
>>96586641Salamanders are cooler than whatever faction you have.
>>96586640carnac you don’t sleep though
>>96586641>green armored factions are gayWhat's your beef with Death Guard? You shower or something? Freak.
>>96586658Yeah, there's nothing wrong with corruption and spreading diseases!
>>96586604Yeah, i dont play this shit ass game you got me jej
>>96586642Gold is the coolest and you can /yourdudes/ your army to be part of the surplus companies who operate outside of the 1000 codex capacity.Guilliman has shitloads of those currently (or maybe not because Silent King deleted 90% of Girlyman's fleet and army he had with him)
>>96586663He unironically looks more healthy than me (in my 30's).
>>96586643that's one guess, yes, it's one of the new fleets they made up with the launch of 10th, it's clearly the better thought out as far as schemes go, it predictably skyrocketed as a fan favourite, had more than a name and a line of fluff attached to it (that would have also explained a fast grow), and recently a kill team boxset with models painted in the schemeit's also perfectly possible that they never intended to have a 4th main fleet to begin with, but in any case, the prospective cost and effort required to paint a whole army to the eavy metal standard in this scheme for promotional and stock photos, instead of simply keeping on using the already done and large leviathan army, most definitely is the reason why they don't change the main fleet now, while they could in the previous iterations of the army since they were redesigning and thus repainting all models anyway
>>96586607I always figured there would be no more "new" major hive fleets arriving from the outside and that all the tyrannids that are currently in the galaxy are all there is.
>>96586682That's not how their fluff has been presented at all, so how did you figure such a thing? Aside from it being what you want?
>>96586497Winged prince for EC are>Fast as fuck boi>Can deep strike>Has a passive to -1 damage reduction>Has a mortal wounds bomb on charge>Does 3 damage per hitIt's ECs best datasheet. All decent lists bring 2-3 of them
>>96586693Also one of them can roll one auto 6
>>96586696You need the enhancement thoughI prefer the resurrect on leadership check
>>96586646no, they aren't
>>96586693EC got fucked over hard with the release, lack of role relevance and weak codex. Yeah some sheets are good but lack of units and ability to deal with big things (outside of Maulerfiends) sucks hard. Also what the fuck is this Fulgrim. Not only he is completely ass the recent "buff" was a joke. Max 4" ignore terrain when every building and terrain piece is 5"+
>>96586678Damn, the scheme does look cool though.
>>96586667>Gold is the coolestGreen and Red rims look better. White also looks better. Even the old Yellow looks better.
>>96586678Too hard to paint for the masses tho
>>96586712all I can say is you have no taste
Normies I talk to think all space marines are blue because of Space Marine 2Blue ultramarinesBlue Thousand Sons bad guy Also that chaos is just the Thousand Sons. I imagine many think they are traitor Ultramarines
>>96586713>wall of textLeftist "meme".
>>96586713Finally a meme that actually gets it.
>>96586713
>>96586713There's no force of greater good than the Ultramarines
>>96586716It can be simplified quite easily, even the kill team boxset retouched it a bitthe gradients on the gaunt's shoulders are almost absent and similarly the one on the heads has been instead recodified into areas that are neatly separated features of the face
>>96586732I mean the tone doesn’t reflect that. That’s the point of the meme. Guilliman is Smurf Jesus and tortures himself the armor of fate so he can try to save humanity. Most media is about heroic space marines
>>96586722You realize the game has the option to paint your player character the way you want it to be? Not noticing those options, (or seeing any other players in the frequent coop missions running around as blood angels, dark angels or whatever marines) must mean you talk with sub 50 IQ people.
>>96586667Turquoise + gold is the best color combination in existence. This is not up for debate.
Well the armageddon crusade continues, today I fought against chaos knights at 1.2k. It was pretty interesting that i ended up forsaking the victory in favour of winning the campaign phase(and gaining the crusade specific agenda by tabling the enemy)I think like losing the battle but winning the war was cool.
>>96586754Those are customizations for the player. Everyone can see that ultramarines wear blue. The director of space marine 2 actually had address this because so many people thought space marines = blue
>>96586732This 'Imperium isnt good guys' angle get severely undercut by the constant efforts to fill the Imperial ranks with diversity and representation
>>96586761Diversity doesn't make a faction inherently good. You think the Dark Eldar are good?
>for the price of 3 Flawless blades you can get a box of 10 Infractors and have enough swords to make them dual wield or one hand, bare hand and effectively make 10 flawless blades
>>96586769Eh? Deldar don't have diversity besides females, they're all pale white
>>96586722That's retardedEspecially since Spacemarine 1 exists and you were popping regular chaos marines there
>>96586747you could also separate the areas further with only solid colours with no attempt at gradients whatsoever and have a perfectly functional scheme with like 6 contrasts, black included
>>96586757You were Nids or GSC?
>>96586757>Boiling SeaLmao that's also a place in Warhammer Fantasy
>>96586749>tone doesn’t reflect that.>Most media is about heroic space marines>>96586761>diversity and representationyou guys are terminally online but you do not actually consume 40k media, only reddit posts, loretubers and GW adsFor every actually good or heroic thing in 40k, there's always a dose of extra grimdark. Even in Space Marine 2
>>96586657not when my compressor wakes me up
>>96586776They have Xenos mercs and bodyguards same as Tau
>>96586788There is very little non-atmospheric grimdark in SM2, this is 100% wrong. You are coping extremely hard.
>>96586755>Turquoise + gold+ silver
>>96586795Yeah that doesn't count as diversity to the people who care about that word
>>96586788The next line is about how she was reaching for a laspistol but it’s funnier to imagine she wasn’t
>>96586822Cato is still pwetty based.
>>96586809They've got skin tones too. I hear you like skin tones.
>>96586822Cato didn't know she was reaching for a Pulse Rifle. He did it because he wanted to.
>>96586827Two shades of white. Not diverse
>>96586831He did it because he’s a warrior who thinks you can trust the enemy in a war zone. People can find plenty of bad stuff space marines have done but this is a very poor example that became a meme because redditors who never read the book saw quotes in memes
>>96586798The only problem is you being the type of retard that needs to be spoonfed everything.Marines usually get their bombastic "hero" moments while everything else is going to shit and survive by a hair. It's their thing and SM2 just follows the trope
Night Lords are literally the most noble space marines. People focus too much on the small things.
>>96586843No, the problem is that you are coping hard. Space Marine2 more or less does portray the imperium as the good guys. The dark stuff is entirely in the background, like servo skulls on a tech-priest. This is not actually debatable.I wasn't saying this is a good thing, just pointing out why it happened. Imperium Space Marine content sells
>>96586855Go dig a trench, loser.
>>96586840Wait you are right. Cato stamped on her chest just as she pulled up and tried to aim her gun.
>>96586858>imperium as the good guysI'm so tired of tourists insisting the Imperium are not the good guys. They are. In a galaxy so fucked up, yes they are the good guys.>>96586861Look at this motherfucker. Can't even tell the difference between Iron Warriors and Night Lords. Subhumans like that live off youtube lore videos and reddit echochambers and know jack shit about the setting.
>>96586866NL are only good for being digger slaves for other warbands.You got your shit pushed in by bunch of inbred hillbilly alien cultists.
>>96586870>You got your shit pushed in>YouAs I've said, redditor subhuman.
>>96586866From a human perspective I agree. Obviously they do a lot of fucked up shit, but like...chaos is real. Their is a reason their religion persecutes heretics, heresy actually does chaos nightmares from the depths of hell to pop into reality. Even the emperor's Imperial Creed was just another way of forcing an orthodox meant to starve chaos of worship. That's why the tone of 40k is so all over the place. Yes, the imperium started off as satirical. But this is a universe where hyper theocrat-fascists are actually right.
>>96586855BATSBATSWE'RE THE BATSWE PREY AT NIGHT, WE STALK AT NIGHTWE'RE THE BATS
>>96586760>for the playerAnd who plays the game?
>>96586866Nah.The T'au are morally better than the Imperium.The Imperium still perpetuates untold unnecessary suffering across the galaxy, causing it to be the main power source of Chaos.
>>96586866>I'm so tired of tourists insisting the Imperium are not the good guys.Imperium are not the good guys and never have been. >but muh humanityIrrelevant since it is a canon fact within the rule books, since Rogue Trader and 2nd edition, that the Imperium's very own actions is subjecting humanity to a slow inevitable extinction.The stagnation of the Imperial society is what will kill humanity and that's not up for debate.
>>96586781That looks like shit. Not only compared to how Typhon should look like, but also comapred to Leviathan.
>>96586855>>96586877I'M THE GIANT BAT THAT MAKES ALL OF THE RULES
>>96586877>>96586884LET'S SEE WHAT KIND OF TROUBLE WE CAN GET OURSELVES INTO
>>96586858You're also the type of retard that confuses "protagonist" with "good guys">The dark stuff is entirely in the background>no all that grimdark stuff doesn't count! reeeeeeok, coping retard
>>96586798Haven't you seen the guardsmen that got gunned down by firing squads then?
>>96586866"the Imperium are the good guys" is the actual tourist opinion, retardBeing the least bad option (for humans) doesn't make it good. And that's the official GW stance, btw
>>96586889Compared to stuff like Space Marines genociding xenos civilians, destroying planets, and forcing 10 year olds to fight to the death, yeah. The stuff they do in the game is pretty typical for a war zone. War isn't a fun thing and treating it like a war is not particularly "grimdark"
>>96586855>>96586887Why does it feel so good to make fun to poke fun at these guys?
Are we raided by r/grimdank retards or something? You all need to go back.
>>96586894>people point out how the media released and nature of the universe contradicts the official statements about the imperium not being good'>um actually GW says they are badPlease, please go back to r*ddit
>>96586896Try typing it again, ESL-kun.
>>96586894ok, tourist, you can now return and get your updoots
>>96586900>>96586905>"people"you're not people, terminally online subhuman>the media released and nature of the universe contradicts the official statements wrong, they're pretty much in sync if you actually watch and read official GW stuff, instead of just marketing and shitposter/loretuber hot takes>muh reddityou're the one that needs to go back
There it is, there is the reddit meltdown. Take the L and piss off, tourist.
>>96586896NL are Cobra commander-like villains and they know it. Being arrogant cowards or jobbing is totally in character for them. And it's great
>>96586900>>96586905>>96586923>implying this place hasn't been a reddit colony since 2016
my dudes are the good guys
>96586917mike brooks! save me! i'm bullied online by fascists!
>>96586771>no eggheadslmao
What good do space marines do
>>96586678>>96586643Bullshit, Typhon by fluff is literally using buzzard/vulture tactics and bullying other hive fleets when they're about to digest the world through capillary towers.Not very "new big bad" energy, if anything Tiamet & its mystery meat planets is more that pace.
>>96586944They sell a lot of models and surely that's a good thing.
>>96586944Murder Tau
>>96586930indeed, just look at election refugees like >>96586932Reddit lives rent free in their heads and everything is filtered by retarded culture wars
The UM primaris upgrade sprue has been delisted from GW's websiteAre you ready for today's reveal of the new one?
>>96586944>*sigh* if only people understood the dark allure of the darkest eldari
>>96586983I actually think they might save it for an actual preview. There are Vanguard Vets and Assault Termies comming before 11th.
>>96586959>Typhon by fluff is literally using buzzard/vulture tacticsSo they're fufilling the scavenger role in the food chain we don't see often in other hive fleets? I wonder if they're all fufilling another aspect of an alien food chain we don't really understand...
>>96586777Space Marine 1 was 20 years ago.
>>96586996But theres only a 5 year gap between those 2 pictures
>>96586996it's 14 years but still holy fuck time flies
>>96586977The lack of self awareness is absolutely amazing.
>>96586988they revealed the new Calgar, Sicarius and friends in a WarCom article without fanfare
>>96586991Typhon is also the genestealer hive fleet
>>96586959being predatory and opportunistic even towards the other fleets would be the absolute perfect excuse for it to rapidly grow to prominence after the demise of leviathan.
>>96587009Because shit got leaked and they had no choice.It was also leaked tied to some wife beater from GW so it was all a panic reveal.
>>96586991I think it'd be better if they fractured the hivemind so all the hivefleets are fighting amongst each other more.
>>96586883that wouldn't be the exact shade, it's just to illustrate what segments could be reasonably be separated and paired with the same color
>>96587029>some wife beater from GWWorse. Iirc, Andy Smillie is a department head and there is a rumor circulating that he physically assaulted another GW worker while at work.It's one of the reasons speculated as to why Sugden left GW.
>>96587012Interesting how it picks on the other earlier hive fleets. I can see it/headcanon it as all the other big hivefleets are just the expendable vanguard and Typhon is apart of the 'real' force. A reminder that all the new tyranid models from levithan are in fluff new tyranid bioforms from the start of the fourth Tyrannic war. So now we're seeing very powerful new organisms with this scavenger hivefleet which clearly sees its own success as far more important than the war weary/damage earlier hive fleets
>>96587030no need to fracture the hive mind for that to happen >>96587012 saying typhon is unique in that is bullshit, hydra had a similar behaviour and we had other small stories about fleets meeting each other and fighting before one subsuming the other.
@Gork is this true?
>>96587030I disagree personally. Even if each Hivefleet is a seperate Hivelfeet (which they kind of are already they don't all work in total unison) that doesn't mean they're all just going to turn on each other. Schools of sharks work together to find prey and don't turn on each other for a meal
>>96587037Nah, fracturing it would be better since it causes more of it to happen.Also it ties more into the theme in 40k that everything and factions are in a decline.
>>96587034>Some dickhead punches or attacks someone at work>Uninvolved third party quits over itDid GW try to protect Andy even though hes a violent dickhead, why would someone committing a crime then getting fired (presuembly) make someone want to quit
>>96587029Only Calgar was leaked. They had no need to reveal Sicarius and the Victrix
>>96587041Meaning there is no downside to doing it.It gives more "personality" to individual hivefleets and would bring out more special mutations and adaptations as the hivefleets try to adapt to survive in the galaxy.Like 1 hivefleet becoming macro predators who primarily attack other hivefleets for biomass and new genetics.Or another which becomes more planet bound where they take over planets entirely but don't destroy it but start to use the said planet as a farm for more biomass and then spread to more and more systems.
>>96587038>less people play game>have to sell better value to get more people to buy them
>>96587038what can I even use the space marine dreadnought as for in 40k?
>>96587056Both of your example already happen, why make a change if what you want to achieve with that change is already canon?
>>96587054If the company you work for is protecting some violent dickhead, that's just telling you it is a good time to leave so you don't get caught in the crossfire or other fuckery.Also it is just telling you that the internal company culture is going to shit if employees can just assault one another with impunity and nothing gets done about it.
>>96586164>The Navy lore has been neglected since BFG diedOne of the things I appreciated about Arks of Omen introducing Boarding Actions was that it centered void warfare through a lot of the story, even if it was obviously more about the little dudes doing the boardings and not about the ships and fleets.GW should do more boarding action shit.
>>96587062It doesn't happen enough.Also since there is clearly no downside to doing it, then I see no problem.
>>96587065Assuming he wasn't fired of course. I'm assuming GW isn't engaging in illegal behaviour and fired him (and to avoid getting sued I imagine). Is Andy still working there?
>>96586783They are the one and the same, but after winning last crusade as gsc it’s only reasonable the hive fleet arrived.I’m running underground assault list is sort of silly but it does synergise and it’s narratively appropriateGeneral: trygon primeEpic heroes; alpha fex (ooe)Alpha lictor :(deathleaper)NeurotyrantPatriarch6 zoanthropes2 carnifex with devourers and claws and devourers and talons respectively. 10 genestealers1 biovore. >>96586785Yeah Armageddon is a place of many recycled names.Map was set near the equatorial jungle, had weird diagonal deployment marked with purple dice.
>>96587076>Is Andy still working there?Yes.
>>96587061Idk maybe a knight. It's humongous.
>>96587074>Like 1 hivefleet becoming macro predators who primarily attack other hivefleets for biomass and new genetics.Anon literally in that reply chain Typhon does litteraly that, as does hivelfeet Hydra.>Or another which becomes more planet bound where they take over planets entirely but don't destroy it but start to use the said planet as a farm for more biomass and then spread to more and more systems.Thats what Tiamet is, a single planet so far but its there. Also in the Octarius War hive fleets were storing biomass at conquered planets poles under thick ice sheets
>>96587069making a new format for the end-of-edition campaign is a pretty smart move, I do wonder what they'll do for this edition
>>96587080Well thats shit as assuming the rumour is true of course
>>96587085I have a sneaking suspicion we are going to see that tomb world terrain reboxed as a new game for at for part of the end of edition campaign again.
>>96587096I wouldn't mind it, that terrian is pretty cool, if they did close quarters as a theme to run back boarding actions but to represent structures it'd be fine
>>96587034>reasons speculated as to why Sugden left GWShe said she got bullied in GW and was frustrated to be reduced to a hand. Also apparently she got a pay cut while the one who bullied her got a raise so she rage quit.
>>96587038Same reason why Spearhead for AoS is cheaper. because AoS is deader than HH.
>>96587061As...a...dreadnought?
>>96586611Ok, but now the question is, which company?I mean I assume you aren't going to do the entire chapter. So are you going to go completely dead centre stock-standard and make them 2nd Company? Or are you going to give some love to a different Company?
>>96587055Leaker was about to leak Victrix as well but GW was faster. That's what he claimed on telegram.>>96587096The terrain is going to be released separately in 5 months. That's the response GW gave to people with fucked up box contents. TAT place had a full thread of people complaining how they got different sprues or damaged contents.
>>96587038They know 40k has the most braindead consumerbase. They don't need to put in any actual effort and dumbasses will still eat it up and ask for seconds.
>>96587112I'm gonna make them reinforcements operating outside of the codex (like the 200+ officers Guilliman is training to rule worlds)
>>96587043You can have more of it happening, arbitrarily right now.The theme of decline is one of the setting's protagonists, not its enemies, tyranids are the enemy, perhaps even more so than chaos.
>>96587084>Anon literally in that reply chain Typhon does litteraly that, as does hivelfeet Hydra.I know, but they don't need to be part of the hivemind for it.
>>96587084>a single planet so far but its therePretty sure in 10th codex its been said there are multiple ones like Ziaphoria and they've been at it since M35.
>>96587079It was pretty wild, I forgot to take pictures except for at the end when the zoanthropes blew apart the last remaining knight unit: some bloodletters ensuring that Tyranid attack agenda was achieved.As I suspected both ooe and the wrecking squad along with the zoanthropes needed to combine tactics to drop the big t13 knight, although the zoanthropes did nuke one over 2 turns solo as well.
>>965870561) you're removing one of the sole things unique to nids for no reason2) hive fleets already have enough personality and it wouldn't necessarily add more of itThe ambiguity of how much unified nids are is what makes it good, same as the ambiguity of how much personality named Nids have, "personhood" is a gradient for them and its great
>>96587136Alas trygon prime died after digging a few holes, again. Not sure there is a single game it’s survived this crusade even with a -1damage enhancement but hey.
>>96587127>not its enemies,Orks are in decline, they are degenerated krorks.All eldar are in decline and currently dying off never to regain their might.Tau are in decline, they already have separatists and some spheres are doubting the Greater Good while the Ethereals are resorting to more unscrupulous methods.Necrons are in decline with geriatric and insane leaders while they also cannot truely replace their losses for once a necron construct is destroyed beyond repair it cannot be replaced.And Chaos in general is always in a state of decline because they are all backstabbing scumbags who will exploit any weakness when it shows itself.Nids degenerating and fracturing adds to the bleakness of 40k.What you said is blatantly wrong.
>>96587109It's larger than any dreadnought in 40k, it's fitted on a 100mm base, a whole 10mm bigger than the redemptor, it's fucked up.
>>96587140>1) you're removing one of the sole things unique to nids for no reasonWhat unique is there about the hivemind?Also even if you fractured it, the hivemind would still exist. It's just that all the hivefleets have their own hivemind that controls them.>2) hive fleets already have enough personality and it wouldn't necessarily add more of itThey really don't.Only thing each has are just a different colorschemes. None of their specializations are ever relevant, and largely never matter.A warrior from hivefleet behemoth is no different than a warrior from hivefleet Leviathan. Only difference being what color they are.
>>96587140>The ambiguity of how much unified nids are is what makes it goodThere is no actual ambiguity about how unified nids are, it's not at all mystery. They are all under a 1 single hivemind, that's the canon. And to pretend it is a mystery is just intentionally acting stupid.It's the reason why Old One Eye or Swarmlord can just appear in any hivefleet there is.
>>96587151Funny how Saturnine killed HH and Saturnine was the biggest thing HHfags apparently wanted. Till it relased.
>>96587143>Orks are in declineNo, they aren't >they are degenerated krorksNo, they are unbound krorks, and in any case it was a latter addition from a retard who didn't understand that by adding this fluff it undermines this shit and makes anything concerning orks about going back to that point, which is lame and misses the point of orks>Tau are in declineNo, they aren't, the are the rising alien empire, when there's a decline happening is because we're forced to see them in the light of a protagonist, not the enemy>Necrons are in declineNo, they weren't when they got introduced as another ultimate doom, and again, the presence of a decline got introduced only with the push to portray them in lights that allow us to see them as protagonists, through their point of view>Chaos in general is always in a state of decline because they are all backstabbing scumbagsYou're mistaking decline with instability, regardless of the fracturing parts, chaos is rising and is posed as an inevitable threat You don't understand 40k
>>96586314Idk, i feel like their relative prosperity stems from the fact that Tau have yet to deal with the threats like the one the Imperium routinely faces (at least on comparable scale)As a consequence, they have no dedicated tech to deal with warp/psychic stuff, no tech for long range warp travel, nothing to communicate across system like astropaths.Also Tau has nothing comparable to the most destructive weapon the Imperium has (Vortex weapons, Nova cannons, all the Exterminatus grade weapons)Tau can prosper because they live in relative tranquillity and their empire has yet to be tested against chronic existential threats which can well hamper and revert technological progress For sure their tech is not better than pre HH Imperium, let alone humanity's golden era
>>96587152Then just say your hive fleet does just this, a rogue splinter off the whole. It doesn’t need to be every one.So what sort of armies and units does this hive fleet of yours run. What tactics does it make use ofdo you have any pics?Like personally hive fleet (my oc) is a splinter which specifically is adapted to go for tomb worlds, as such it rarely wastes bio matter in wave attacks and exhaustively uses certain vanguard elements such as lictors and genestealers to properly and adequately recon waking tombworlds before landing in a decisive and rapid fashion.
>>96587166>killedWhat are you talking about?
>>96587152>What unique is there about the hivemind?Removing the whole subthemes of hivemind being "realspace god-being" and "cascading cycles of abuse" and "each warrior-form being nothing more than a white T cell / as above so below" and making them more like generic sci-fi bugs. And me don' like that.>None of their specializations are ever relevant, and largely never matterThat's like saying "SWolves having rune priests is irrelevant".That said I am not sure what you're getting at? If nids were popular enough yeah they would get bespoke models for separate hive fleets. Malstrains is one way of showing potential differentiation in terms of appearance for nids.So yeah, a warrior from Tiamet - fleet known for his armourwank - would ideally be converted to sport heavier carapace plates or say, 3rd edition nid "helmets". The specializations are words, but you can and should absolutely use that as inspo for conversions.>chaos in general is always in a state of declineYou're being kind of facetious, Daemons are very much not in decline. And I don't find decline to be that much of a core theme for 40k for anyone but humans & CWE maybe, so I wouldn't parade it as a universal truth. Necrons are only growing stronger.>>96587163I mean yeah but I was referring to somewhat abnormal behaviours of Typhon and Hydra.
>>96587180>bro just do thisI already do.I still want GW to add that piece of fluff since it'd make 40k more interesting.
>>96587151>It's larger than any dreadnought in 40kNope, it's just the marine version of the custodes Telemon dread>>96587166also nope, after the Legacies PDF the game keeps on being played
>>96587152You're a lorelet, behemoths' bioforms are about bumrushing the enemy, leviathan is the all-rounder fleet with a high degree coordination.It's like saying nothing differentiates blood angels and ultramarines but the color scheme.
>>96587183>he doesn't knowThis was talked about to death.
>>96587200Anon, minicompare is not a good measuring tool
>>96587180>Then just say your hive fleet does just thisWhat makes you think you're talking with someone who actually likes tyranids instead of some other fanboy who thinks nids are "unfair"?
>>96587136>>96587141Oh shit thats the new tyranid terrain
>>96587205they use the same base, ffs
>>96587141Whats that Trigon from?
>>96587197>and making them more like generic sci-fi bugs.Nids already are just this.And all of the things you listed are just at best speculation or actual canon.Specifically the hivemind is not an actual entity with a mind within the Warp, what the hivemind is just all of the tyranids in a swarm communicating psychically with one another, it's how they can maneuver in coordinated packs.It's also what the Shadow in the Warp effect is, which is the precisely the presence of the hivemind itself. It's just all the tyranid biomorhps "talking" with each other to coordinate.Tyranids are just regular sci-fi bugs.
>>96587133>multiple ZiaphoriasHuh spooky>So yeah, a warrior from Tiamet - fleet known for his armourwank - would ideally be converted to sport heavier carapace plates or say, 3rd edition nid "helmets".Aren't they the hivefleet who have diamond encrsuted carapaces? so they should all be shiny gem like carapaces, which is a look never ever shown by GW art
>>96585577I’m thinking of building an army of astra or tyranids. I like the idea of fielding a ton of units and painting is my favorite part of the hobby. I rarely actually play though so which is more fun to use in your opinion?
>>96587220So why did Hellbrutes and OG Dreadnoughts devolve so hard?
>>96587171>literal inverse reality copeAll 40k factions save maybe Tyranids are fucked up and get their dose of grimdark, no exceptions
Tyranids are such a boring faction. They’re basically just mindless monsters that exist for the other factions to defend against
>>96587202>You're a lorelet, behemoths' bioforms are about bumrushing the enemy, leviathan is the all-rounder fleet with a high degree coordination.All of that is just bunch of fluff on a piece of paper and it is highly inconsequential and doesn't matter.There's no actual difference between the biomorphs when you look at them.
>>96587226>Tyranids are just regular sci-fi bugs.No Nids are not animals or sophisticated ants, they are biomancy-wielding race of proxy bodies piloted by Tsathoggua-like godlike entity, which they are.
>>96587171What anon said was 100% right.Also it's funny you deliberately didn't mention the eldar because you know it'd be bullshit to even try debunking it.
>>96587243people who like Nids see them as murder pets in bright colours
>Today, I will remind them
Chaosfags tend to be the cancer of 40k fans with the way they wank chaos and start arguments over insanely stupid shit. It’s fitting I suppose.This only applies to oldfags though. Newfags are usually imperiumpilled
>>96587248Tyranids are just animals.Them having psychic powers doesn't make them different, they are just animals with psychic powers.This shit already exists in 40k anyway, Krotalids are specifically crocodilian like xenos who have psychic powers and use it to teleport across the galaxy to find new planets to live on.They are still only animals however, they have no higher thought processes.It's the same with tyranids.
>>96587092To be honest it she didn't come to the media screaming she got sexually assaulred, which seems to be more of a rumor-ish thing and fellow coworkers are going around sharing memes calling Andy (who's 100% the type of sci fi writing balding fat guy who would assault a girl) one being his back with model pictures I personally believe it's likely that it happened. No one would go around making these types of jokes about something they know is bullshit and woman who are ACTUALLY SAd on the workplace hardly make a big fuss about it other than leaving the company because said fuss looks bad on their resume. Had something similar at the company I work at with another fat bald dude called Andy
>>96587265>Tyranids are just animals.Lorelet detected opinion discarded
>>96587258its peak /40kg/ to establish a group of people as bad for doing something and never establish a baseline. Like, what even is chaoswank
>>96587237WrongAnd tyranids are not some happy go lucky utopia either, if there were a shred of point of view about the individuality of the gaunts, for example, it would be a description of unending pain and body horror from its embryonic stage to its quick deployment and use as disposable and recyclable fodderYou don't understand what you are talking about at a fundamental level You're just mad about nids being the threat they areThey need to be for the setting to be properly grimdark to the protagonists
>>96587226>Nids already are just this.They are not, I suggest reading more niche fluff bits about them rather than glancing at the big picture.Norn Queens are just as much of a cog in a machine of systematic abuse as a warrior or a gant. They're not rulers, they're as much a slave for a god-groupthink as the janitor detrivore bacteria on the hiveship.>what the hivemind is just all of the tyranids in a swarm communicating psychically with one another, it's how they can maneuver in coordinated packsNot quite. Gestalt is specifically more than a sum of the parts.It can also extend its psychic limbs far beyond just physical bodies when needed. It is unified and absolute, which is why its not "shattering" or truly splintering. In fact it is so big that most of it lies >Tyranids are just regular sci-fi bugs.Repeating yourself doesn't make your argument more convincing.Tyranids are not eusocial insects, there is far more analogy in the codex fluff to just organellas of a far bigger body/colonial organism. That's why DoB says that "there really is only one tyranid.>>96587229Hehe I was actually the first to compare Remina to Tiamet's homework. It was me all along, Barry.
>>96587258chaosfans are a blight but tyranidfans are insufferable too.they are just the same old "akchually our faction is le all-powerful-inevitable destruction of the galaxy, not kaos" also many of them get very defensive about nids as well whenever something happens in a book or in fluffi don't like either because they are made up of similiar people
>>96587198You avoided answering:So what sort of armies and units does this hive fleet of yours run. What tactics does it make use ofdo you have any pics?>>96587216Benefit of the doubt of course anon, which is why I asked how his hive fleet approaches combat and what bio forms it favours as well as asking for pics. I like reading about people’s custom dudes, especially custom hive fleets.>>96587217Sorry anon it’s old stuff or diy stuff that I made for my hive world board, here’s a different map layout so you can better see it. >>96587224Snake alien toy I had as a child I converted this year, turned out pretty cool.(and a month later subterranean assault came out, what a coincidence)
>>96587245So you're a lorelet AND a hobbylet.
>>96587258>>96587277more tourist, no games yapping
Speaking of tyranids, I finished my brainboys
Clearly the lore only matters when it is references to WW2 or justifying why women and minorities don't exist in the IP
>>96587250I didn't mention the eldar because they're not an enemy faction, despite clashes with the imperium, they're more akin to parallel protagonists.
>>96587276>Tyranids are not eusocial insects, there is far more analogy in the codex fluff to just organellas of a far bigger body/colonial organism. That's why DoB says that "there really is only one tyranid.Huh so all the hive fleets are just one Tyranid Siphonophores type creature. That makes a lot of sense. Well perhaps each hive fleet is a seperate Siphonophore or each bio-ship since they are physcially seperate creatures
>>96587237Nids are literally running on a pyramid skeem of unending physical abuse and exhaustion. It is ghouls gnawing on ghouls running on ghoul software, constantly straining and chewing themselves up so that they can chew up the whole world. For no reason other than to perpetuate the whole thing.>"To human eyes, a tyranid organism was a single thing. A beast like any other. This was not so.>Each monster in the limitless swarms was a carefully designed colony of symbiotic creatures. Once incorporated into the hive fleet's genetic knowledge, the baseline genome of those organism chosen for a primary host was pared back to the bare essentials, and gifted with the characteristics common to all tyranid creatures - thick, chitinous armor, a hexapedal anatomy, multiple redundant organs - characteristics that, above all else, made them incredibly difficult to kill. Only then were the true adaptations added.>Though the finished creature may have looked like a complete, single being, it was made up of a multiple of individual creatures, many of them semi-sentient in their own right. This was most obvious to the casual observer in the weapons borne by the larger constructs, whose repurposed anatomies still retained recognisable biological shapes. There were other, less obvious examples of forced parasitism. Thinking blood. Organs that could live seperately from creatures they served. Subsidiary brains that awaited the death of the main nerve stem or the presentation of some unusual circumstance that required specialist knowledge not present in the basic mentality of the creature; both events that might never come to pass. Organs could be installed, fully aware, and live for centuries, never realising their potential. The hive fleet was so huge it could afford to be profligate with flesh."
>>96587277>waaa waaa why don't you agree when I suggest your faction should get dismantled to make mine feel safer?
>>96587286Those are vivid anon, nicely done. My zoanthropes (with attached neuro) today were absolute mvps. Make sure to use them soon!
>>96587265>just animalsso are humans, that's a nonsensical argument that misses their point>>96587272>blah blah pseud fanfiction bs>>96587277yep, it's all <faction> fanboys screeching about they being the best
>>96587277I can get it with chaos but not with Tyranids. Tyranids are basically just zombies with no characterization. The older Tyranid art from the 90s is chill though. All Tyranids should have neon colors now unless the plot calls for something else
>>96587294>>96587294>Huh so all the hive fleets are just one Tyranid Siphonophores type creature. That makes a lot of senseYes.>Well perhaps each hive fleet is a seperate Siphonophore or each bio-ship since they are physcially seperate creaturesAlso yes.And see >>96587297, each creature itself is a siphonophore. Hence "as above, so below" that I brought up earlier.
>>96587302There's no fanfiction about what I said.
>>96587276>Norn Queens are just as much of a cog in a machine of systematic abuse as a warrior or a gant. They're not rulers, they're as much a slave for a god-groupthink as the janitor detrivore bacteria on the hiveship.Never said they weren't, they are just a colony of bugs fighting for resources so they can spread. They are just regular scifi bugs.>gestaltTyranids aren't gestalt. All of them just communicate psychically through the Warp, it's the reason why psykers lose their powers/go insane when a hivefleet approaches a system. All the billions of tyranid biomorhps communicating through the Warp basically jams it for everyone else trying to use it.It's like if you have a sieve but then you pour and clog the entire thing with molasses, it doesn't matter how much other stuff you pour on, none of it will go through until the molasses has passed through the sieve due to how dense and how much molasses there are.And that same thing happens with the Warp, it's also the exact thing what the Shadow in the Warp which is just the "hivemind" presence within the Warp. There's no actually intellect or intelligence behind it, just animals communicating to each other on about how to go about killing something to eat it.
>>96587270>what even is chaoswankSome people just want to bust to the world burning, mastah wayne
>>96587297nothing of that makes their existence grimdark, that's just their nature. In that they're pretty much like daemonsThat's nothing like orks being a runaway bioweapon unaware of their potential, and which stay retarded for being continuously culled
Older Tyranid art is funny. The Eldar on the green helmet isn’t having a good day
>>96587313>Tyranids aren't gestalt. All of them just [do something that's more than the sum of the parts]
>>96587302>it's le [fanboys] being mean again!tyranidfags and their oppression olympics are funny
>>96587313>Tyranids aren't gestalt. All of them just communicate psychically through the Warp>There's no actually intellect or intelligence behind it, just animals communicating to each other bullshit and fanfiction. Literally the opposite of what is said in the lore, and I'm not even a nidfag, quite the contrary
>>96587313>Tyranids aren't gestaltBro, get real. The Hivemind is literally called a gestalt consciousness. Has been since the earliest days, in every codex. You can't just deny reality and substitute it with your own.
>>96587286I'd make some kind of (muted) lava bases for them, they look like they are gonna spit psychic fire.
>>96587308>The Tyranid race are siphonophores>Each Hive fleet, each individual bioship within each hivefleet and each individual tyranid creature>As Above so BelowVery cool anon never had that all click before
>>96587313>There's no actually intellect or intelligence behind itYes, there is, explicitly so, if you think otherwise it's because you're subscribed to some gay fanfiction.
>>96587328Tyranids aren't sum of the parts. All of the biomorphs can function entirely fine on their own even if left alone.Something like a gant or even a hive tyrant getting marooned on a planet will over time start to multiply by itself in an attempt to take over the planet it was left on.
>>96587313>Tyranids are gestalt. All of them are just communicated to psychically through the Warp by the hive mind, it's the reason why psykers lose their powers/go insane when a hivefleet approaches a system. All the billions of tyranid biomorhps being communicated to by the hive mind through the Warp basically jams it for everyone else trying to use it.
Damn it, none of the Badab War chapters comes with a colour scheme that I would want to paint. It would be fun to paint Red Corsairs but they rename themselves only once the whole thing ends unfortunately.
>>96587350Are you ESL? Do you even understand nothing of what you said touches on what the previous posts were about?
>>96587297Where did you pull this greentext info from?
>>96587366thats Devastation of Baal, anon
>>96587332>>96587333>>96587347It's not gestalt.All that happens is when more tyranids converge is their psychic network expands. It's just like neurons in a brain.Once it gets big enough, the processing power of each animal is used for higher and faster calculations to decide the best course of action, which then gives the impression of that the "hivemind" is intelligent and thinks when it really doesn't, it just reacts to stimuly.This is the reason when left alone tyranids regress to a feral, instinctive state, ie. like an animal. When they are alone they no longer have the benefit of the other brains that they'd be psychically connected to, when they are by their lonesome it's like if a brain was made up of 1 singular neuron.
Dark Eldar next week
>>96587370>it's like if a brain was made up of 1 singular neuronThank you for the demonstration
>>96587375Huh?
>>96587370>It's just like neurons in a brain.Human intelligence is the one defining example of something being gestalt.
>>96587370>codex uses "gestalt consciousness" and "intelligence" word for word repeatedly and compares it to a god-being>bro its not a gestalt they're just fukin animals or sum shiet Sublime bait.
>>96587370>It's not gestalt.>describes something that's gestalt.
>>96587375Haven't seen anybody mention that Ssylth got removed from the codex, rip to another minor xenos
Quick rule question: If a attached character has extra models, can you choose to let them takes the hit before the unit or does the Bodyguard unit have to tank the wounds first? Case in point is a unit of CSM chosen with a dark Apostle. My friend often wants to throw them out when you actually fire something bigger at the unit to soak the hits. But we don't actually know if this is allowed or not. Any rulewise fellow out there that can clarify this?
>>96585745Wrong on both countsWhat will actually happen;>Tau invade Ultramar>Initially strong gains until the Marines actually get involved>Tau advance is brought to an instant halt as several UM Successors appear>Fighting intensifies >Ultramarines themselves arrive, led by Guilliman himselt>Tau are utterly routed and Marines give chase>Suddenly Lorgar appears at Calth and all the Marines go to try and dogpile him instead in a new Crusade: Calth book>Tau are allowed to crawl away back to their backwater corner of the galaxy and aren't seriously mentioned again for abiut five years as they 'recover their losses'
>>96587404We have mentioned it enough, it's sssad, but hopefully gw doesn't abandon the concept next edition.
>>96587394>What precisely the Hive Mind is Mankind remains ignorant to.>Attempts have been made to tame the fear of the unknown by CLAIMING that this alien sentience is a god, a galactic metapredator, a gestalt psychic presence and countless other even stranger explanations.This picture itself already says it is only a "claim", ie. pure speculation, as to what the Hive Mind actually is.It doesn't confirm anything, it just lists off bunch of things without saying any of them are true.
The Eldar already figured out what the Hive Mind is.It's a Dragon.
>>96587404All the random Xenos got removed. They're an elves only faction now for the first time since they launched in 3rd edition.
>>96587057>haha fucking plebs, they don't pay $80 for 3 infantry models like me!
>>96587370>All that happens is when more tyranids converge is their psychic network expandsIn a way that's more than the mere sum of the parts, hence the gestalt.
>>96587406Unless Precision, the bodyguard.
>>96587406Yes, you can have these attached models catch bullets.
>>96587433Nah it’s a wyvern
>>96587434Why are you counting the herded beasts too?
>>96587442The Eldar clearly call it a dragon, and they're smart so they have to be right.
>>96587434Well thats fucking lame, were beastmasters also removed since that was their whole shtick?Copium is that GW is making a minor xenos codex which can be used by a bunch of factions
Part of me, the depraved gooner part, wants to get into Drukhari The other more sane part is leaning Death GuardAny insights from Drukhari or Death Guard players?
>>96587450>which can be used by a bunch of factionsGW is moving as far as possible away from modularity and cross compatibility in its product lines.Even imperial agents are some gay stopgap measure.
>>96587447>a swarm of locust is a dragon because some retard knife-ears said soThe Old Ones should've aborted the eldar and only made orks.
>>96587447The Hivemind is actually a great wyrm, sifitng the void of space and stars and all of creation for lifeforms to consume like how the wyrms sift sand
>>96587437>In a way that's more than the mere sum of the partsNot really. All tyranid organisms can function on their own separately.Rippers and gants left on their own in the wild start to multiply in an attempt to create a new hivefleet/a tendril.
You know what GW should add? A malstrain hivefleet.
>>96587458>GW is moving as far as possible away from modularityThere is still so much modularity between all the marine ranges, that your statement is just wishful thinking.
>>96587459>follows d&d shit>thinks others are mentally illlmao
>>96587407Why would they suddenly start writing the Tau so differently?
>>96587407Why would Tau invade Ultramar. That's a death sentence for them.
>>96587466>Not really. All tyranid organisms can function on their own separately.That's both not absolutely true and literally irrelevant to the fact the hive mind is a gestalt thing.Tyranid rippers fucking die when they're cut from the hive mind, you triple lorelet.
>>96587478dnd didn't come up with stereotypical dragons, european myths didalso dragons with 6 limbs, 4 legs, 2 wings already existed WHF anywayand even more older description comes from Tolkien himself where he made Smaug into a stereotypical dragon with 6 limbs, 4 legs, 2 wings the movies changed that even originally in the movies Smaug had 6 limbs but they tweaked the cgi for dvd releases
>>96587456>one army, tend to strong rules for the most part, line well supported due to its popularity, gets its spotlight in the lore/narrative from time to time>other army, mostly weak rules, recently lost half its datasheets, on life support, can disappear from 40k at any moment, 90% of the time shows up in the lore as an annoyance kidnapping peopleThe answer is up to you but the correct answer is DG
>>96587407The Lorgar/Guilliman models was debunked. 30k is getting them not 40k. We might be getting Dorn vs. Perturabo in 11th.
>>96587475Ouroboros used to be that, it still can be if you're willing to convert.
>>96587495>european myths didEuropean myths called dragon everything ranging from limbless snakes, wingless lizards and creatures with multiple heads or no forelimbs.The only ones claiming only shit with 4 legs and 2 wings is a "real" dragon is DnD, you fag.
>>96587501>Ouroboros used to be thatIsn't Ouroboros' gimmick that it's just old?
>>96587495tolkien had wingless dragons too, your made up definitions literally don't matter
>>96587509and euro myths also called 6 limbed reptiles as dragons and that's what a dragon in the modern society nowadays issorry wyvern bro
>>96586535They have a lot of card games, but no miniature based gamesD&D isn’t really that popular over there either. >>96586531Gundam and warhammer building and paintings are very different kinds of hobbies. I’m not even talking about why isn’t Warhammer popular, rather why aren’t any tabletop games popular in general
>>96587511it's slightly more than that
>>96587496Thanks anon. You're absolutely right. I should jerk off before making important decisions like which army to choose.
>>96587512those are drakes
>>96587518>and that's what a dragon in the modern society nowadays isNo, in modern society dragons vary a lot, plenty of media show them differently, hell they show them predominantly different nowadays, unless by "modern society" you mean exclusively dnd.
>>96587494>rippers die when disconnected from the hivemindKinda lame.
>>96587532>No, in modern society dragons vary a lotthey don'task any retard on the street as to what a dragon is everyone will just say reptile with 6 limbs, 4 legs 2 wings and spews fireany person who describes a wyvern or a drake is just autistic heraldry nerd
>>96587528no, glaurung was very much called dragon
Played my first game today with my own mini, against another newbie player; we struggled a lot with some rules and fucked up some resolution on wounds, hit and charge/fight phase; was still decent fun but way too long for a 500 points game, around 4/5 hours (and I forfeited to cut it short, only my grots and a big mek left on 2 objectives). Tried to be slick with Da Jump & having my stormboyz arrives later, but my charges weren't too good and I activated the Waagh! too late +forgot to use CP and some little rules here and there on some units. Next time I would like to play against someone experienced or have someone overseeing the table and tip me on rulesTons of keywords or specific rules that are badly layed around the books imo, maybe its because I'm not used to it, but its a pain in that ass to look up certain rules>pic rel, my grot being afraid of a tau mech
>>96587537it's a drake
>>96587541>cuck circles>tau Yuk, sorry you have to subject yourself to that anon.
>>96587536the first replies you'll be given will be related to famous movies and shows, like harry potter, the hobbit, game of thronesplenty of people are also aware of what an oriental dragon looks like and they will call it dragon too, not have an autistic barrier like you, and plenty more will look at a wyvern and call it a dragon regardless, just like plenty of people did in the past as wellit's literally just dnd and you thinking dnd matters
>>96587556That is not a dragon
>>96587545>>96587561keep living in denial, dnd cuck
>>96587545>>96587561If you’re this pedantic over fake animals go and be a real biologist
There's only one dragon in 40k
>>96587556dnd is more relevant than harry potteralso that's a wyvern, not a dragonhere's a fix for it
What the shit why is the regular edition of the new Corsairs book sold out already? I assumed I had plenty of time to pick that up because it's a Xenos book.
>>96587564Why do you keep seething over DnD? Did it piss into your cereal one morning?
>>96587640New BL books are scalped to hell. I was lucky to get the DG lords of silence LE
>>96587618>2 arms>2 legs>wings>tailYeah, that is a dragon.
>>96587644why do you keep talking about dnd in the 40k general?Get out
>>96587646I know the limited edition ones are. but has it spread to even the regular editions now?
>>96587656They only printed 100 copies they weren't expecting much sales.
>>96587656not re-editions, but new novels? yepI bet you can already see the listings in ebay for double the price or more
>>96587654He's the one who brought up DnD, not me.I'm just talking about dragons which are in 40k.
>>96587618I like how everyone was expecting/hoping for a metal dragon and the designers were like 'lol nope'
>>96587668I think it's genuinely lazy as a design.
>>96586722This is true btw. My friend was surprised when I told him that ultramarines are just one chapter of space marines.
>>96587667>>96587459
>>96587668it's actually the best "otherwordly" C'tan, and the name fits it perfectly>>96587674post 10 designs like the Void Dragon
>>96587679I don't mention DnD anywhere in that. Only dragons.
Hey guys I'm printing stuff to play Space Crusade, and I need to choose the loadouts for each squad because I don't want to magnetize, The Squad leaders are easy, Blood Angels get Power Fist and Power Sword because they're melee focused, Imperial Fists get a heavy bolter because they love bolters, and Ultramarines get bolt pistol and power axe because they're the generic guys.But what about special weapons, each squad gets two, which squad should get which?
>>96587618got beat up by a monkey with a spearjobber
>>96586722What do they think is up with the customisation options or the PvP?
>>96587688Follow the reply chain.
>>96587668I would've rather taken a metal dragon instead of yet another "naked muscular man painted silver"
>>96587693I’ll pick this game up when the EC get a playable character.
People say that the imperium is doomed if you look at the lore but if you think about it logically the emperor should already be so juiced by quadrillions of people worshipping him that he could blow out chaos like a candle. Fabius Bile started to become a god because a small group of his creations worship him. The eldar gods formed from 10k worlds with low population, although eldar have stronger souls so each worshipper goes further. The emperor should be so powerful at this point that nothing can stop him. Although his mental state should also be defined by his worshippers so the being in question would not be the same man that sat down on the throne. It would be something....else
>>96587698Still wasn't the one who brough up DnD originally.
>>96587691>I don't want to magnetizethat's not how SC was meant to be played. Swapping guns was part of the core campaign gameplay, even more so with the expansions.
>>96587704>but logically40k doesn't work on logic, it works based on what the creators and GW say.If Imperium is doomed, it is doomed.
>>96587693Most probably don't play pvp, just the campaign. Other think they are just corrupted by chaos so they look evil and shit
>>96587708Yes, you did, by pretending the definition found only in dnd defines dragons as >>96587459
>>96587704If we're looking at it logically Chaos is infinitely more empowered since they are able to draw power from infinite universes (even if they eventually destroy them) while the Emperor only has 0.01% of a single galaxy.
>>96587716I mean, yes that is how canon works in any work of fiction, but I'm saying that it is logically inconsistent. It's basically contradicting itself. Although they have left themselves an out that I think is logical by hinting multiple times that the God borne from the god emperor would be...problematic to say the least. Cawl inferior says it would be a cancer when Guilliman asks him about it. Because again it would be the God Emperor as worshipped by his worshippers, a being borne from their collective connection to the warp. The eldar Guilliman talks to about godhood says the same thing is likely happening to Guilliman. >>96587726They can't draw power from other universes in the 40k verse. They're the same "concepts" as their counterparts in things like fantasy but not really the same.
>>96587713guess I've got no choice, is that still the case for the commanders?
>>96587686>post 10 designs like the Void Dragonlook up "space god" and you'll find plenty of faceless cosmic men
why the fuck cant chaos be in a starter box again? they're fucking starving. More than orks or dark eldar are.
>>96587726>If we're looking at chaos logicallynot how this works, pal
>>96587662yup, yup, there they are.I know what I would like to happen to those people but I can't say it
>And behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth.Don’t you pretend to be religious? You can’t recognize The Great Red Dragon?
>>96587704It does seem like they partially acknowledge this. When Guilliman was in Nurgle's garden the emperor burned Nurgle's essence>"Rotigus hunted carefully for his rival, and it took him a very long time. The groves of gnarlwoods stretched into an infinity of rot. From their boughs depended slick birthing sacs, each one burgeoning with the promise of rebirth. Decay and renewal, life and death, the gnarlwoods epitomised Nurgle’s cycle, and ordinarily Rotigus felt a thrilling sense of belonging there, a charging of the soul. To be part of such purpose, and to see the truths of his lord presented to him in metaphysical form as solid as himself, gave him a heightened sense of joy, and he wandered there whenever he could. But the occasion was far from ordinary, and that took much away from his victory. He felt as hollow as the trees, rotted out from inside with no new, wriggling life to replace what was lost. He and every other aspect of the Great Grandfather felt the same, for at the beginning and at the end, they were all a part of him.>Wound the garden, wound the god.>The neverground shook. There were whispers in the hierarchy that perhaps the burns would never heal, and that Nurgle tossed uneasily in his sleep with the pain. The upheavals in the liquid earth would last for some aeons to come, at the very least, like loose bowels incapable of rest. Rotigus could taste it on the air, a clean burning in Nurgle’s holy foetor. He could feel it in his soul as a hot scar. He shifted his gut around to settle the pain, and it did not work. The mouth in his belly and arm were sealed tight in discomfort."
>>96587733the commanders are fine with loadouts fitting their faction cards. Anyway you only need to magnetize 2 guys
>>96587723>by pretending the definition found only in dnd defines dragonsThose dragons aren't DnD only though?https://www.warhammer.com/en-GB/shop/shugengan-lord-on-great-spirit-longma-2025?queryID=d65d148d794f7fc8e2aa0a323ebeaf33https://www.warhammer.com/en-GB/shop/high-elf-realms-lord-on-dragon-2025?queryID=38b45c76d5a63915d1ba038f354bf80ahttps://www.warhammer.com/en-GB/shop/tomb-kings-of-khemri-tomb-king-on-necrolith-bone-dragon-2024?queryID=7a30eadcdbe6577c232da776f01eec6ehttps://www.warhammer.com/en-GB/shop/warriors-of-chaos-warpfire-dragon-2024?queryID=e426dae63cbc76d9c1dd23c1d0d026ff
>>96587750well he isn't red, or seven headed, or ten crowned
>>96587737non-Imperial factions in order of how much they need a Starter faction sized updateDark EldarHarlequinsWorld EatersEldar (if introducing Exodites)Emperor's ChildrenThousand SonsTauEldar (if not introducing Exodites)VotannCSMGSCDeath GuardNecronsTyranids
>>96587753so who should I have "locked in" for each faction?
>>96587737because starter sets for now are being used to refresh old armies, like necrons (warriors dating back to 3rd edition), now tyranids (gaunts dating back to 3rd edition), and soon orks (boys dating back to 3rd edition).Better luck for in 12th! khorne actually has a good widespread appeal, and plenty of opportunities for expansion, but starter sets require a chaff unit to bump the number of models in the boxset while world eaters already have 2 chaff units.So either world eaters get a 3rd cultist unit (blood pact?), or mechabloodletters will be weirdly small and numerous, or it's not going to be khorne but darkmek or thousand sons.
>>96587756>Those dragons aren't DnDYour definition of dragon as exclusively that kind is.
>>96587762No Orks? They still don’t have a properly updated boyz kit, and they still need a bunch of their elites and leaders refreshed.
>>96587781>>96587781>>96587781Page 6 and image limit, lets go.
>>96587774But it's not though?Those types of dragons exist outside of DnD as well.
>>96587785ah shit, I forgot Orks. Thanks
>>96587799outside of dnd dragons come in all shapes sizes and numbers and configurations of limbs.only in dnd there's the attempt to say there's only one kind of true dragon as you say here >>96587459
>>96587815You seem upset.
>>96587833No, I'm deadpan and correct, you're upset at being corrected.
>>96587862>No, I'm deadpanYup, definetly seething.
Are Tyranids good rn or will the better in 11th?
>>96587496DG rules have only been good recently. They were shit for all of 8th and 9th. Deldar are usually good too, only becoming weak in 10th.
>>96587874No reason to think things will get better
