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https://imgchest.com/p/5xy22anpnylhttps://rentry.org/outer_reincarnation_information>Chronological Build ListA Hero of Justice https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96547410/#96549457Moonman https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96459760Wanderer above the Sea of Fog (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96547410/#96550529Speedster Spider https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412603Demonic Nightmare Maker https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96487358/#96493315The Black Messiah (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96430522Flagellant Gambler https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96411399The Jötunnsdrottninggen https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96381145Ithyl Twynis https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96381847Y'Sereth, King among Kings https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96382717Queen of Mamet https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96382899Orkhalorkhan https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415856Father of the Paracausal Arts https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96452392The Wandering Professor (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96428837Vëe the Dream Librarian https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96393021Demon King of the Dead (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96386307/#96391919Krinak, Syn Ufroka https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96399372The Book of the Damned https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96426011Ҁ Ф ʌ https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96459503/#96467167Faina Aureole (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96515334/#96518359Unnotable Lich https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96547410/#96547484Tverso Ordo-Dorian https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96555932/#96559969Foolish Dreamer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96398017Vai of the Doria https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96563858/#96565865
>>96597552Mer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96400248Aurum Arc the Golden Finger https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96400560Red Drakonid (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96429221King of The Exarchate (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96416022Qarg the Conqueror https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96404302Son of Man (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96404724The Inquisitor https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96406963Ultimate Scholar (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407218Student https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407496Breaker of the Eternal Curse https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#q96407496The Return of the King (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407523Liriel, The Veilbreaker https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96451577Balrog the Emerald King https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96427173One-Woman Band https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412498Ellavan "Ella" Aureole (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96547410/#96549242Ren, Demon Lord of SRTR https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415916HeWillWin https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415920Goku Sasuke Master Chief Kakarot https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96427458Zyneheart (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96423015He'el (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96431341Rozir, the Vagabond King of Hexen (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96440992/#96445292Thaumaradrak (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96468757/#96471990Lady, the Academy Meister (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96478474/#96485991Daemon ex Machina (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96515334/#96516984Holy Father (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96520605/#96528241
>>96597565Balor of the Evil Eye https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96525117/#96532772Numerological Demon Lord https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96447883Manusya, the Unwritten https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96425679Fir Dahort https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96428141Warlord (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96430436Liadan - Unbegotten Dreamer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96463819Neophyte Sevastian https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96440992/#96445422Avi - Demonic Dragon Sage https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96440992/#96446382The Silk Matron https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96452816The White Prophet (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96454351Time Traveler (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96520605/#96522774Led https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96458991Aphainoumenos, Last Demon Prince https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96459966Ars Goetia https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96461924Valar https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96459503/#96471461Prince Aureole https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96477816Rap God https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96479391Common Man https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96480067Alfrent (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96480079Aera https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96478474/#96482056Illior of the Doria (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96478474/#96482585Godslayer Punchardt https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96478474/#96487671The Curse Slinger https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96487358/#96493657Fu'uq, the Pixie Bomber https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96487358/#96493201Paxtinger, Dragon God https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96497495/#96503070Orion https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96520605/#96522237Onze Yesod https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96571684/#96580670
>>96597567True Demon https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96515334/#96516997Unnotable Guy https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96515334/#96518022Vratislav (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96515334/#96518373Blood Priestess https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96520605/#96527658Scourge of the Damned https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96520605/#96528560Immortal Pixie Garland https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96525117/#96529021Nlo, Commander of the First Imperial Host https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96525117/#96532886Izeth-from-Stygia https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96525117/#965347650^0 Kill Speedrun Any% (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96534134/#96535458Ewokai (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96534134/#96535460Useful Humilitas (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96534134/#96538697Daath https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96534134/#96539471Gabaar, of the Krazy Komet Klan https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96547410/#96548253The "Last One" https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96541258/#96545134Edward https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96541258/#96545282Troll Cock https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96555932/#96559139Tverso Ordo-Dorian (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96555932/#96559969Tumen Goddess https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96555932/#96560961Saorise the Unprophet https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96555932/#96562550Hiro Protagonist (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96563858/#96575323Eros, the Sempiternal Swain https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96571684/#96576766Canon Cannoneer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96571684/#96578631Kei Ordo-Dorian (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96584342/#96585092Shameless Snake (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96584342/#96586649
have you ever noticed how 99% of characters in cyoas are dogshit walking tropes? anime is unironically to blame for this
Someone posted this in the last thread or so - it took me back. For all newfags, a build for this is the price of entry to the real /cyoag/ community
>>96597639Even the most verbose CYOA layouts rarely allow for more than 500 words of description per character. You need to rely on the audience filling in the blanks or it doesn't work, and tropes are one of the most reliable ways to do that.
>>96597664Authors should get a little wilder and more granular with the tropes. Obviously they're useful but that doesn't mean every part of the character needs to fit a defined model - why not mash together unusual combinations of them, even conflicting ones? I don't really think this is a legitimate excuse for the issue the original poster is bringing up
>>96597639What would you say without tropes?"This girl almost drowned in a swamp"?"Phil has commited vehicular manslaughter over a dozen times and he is starting to notice a pattern"Actually now that I think of it it would be kind of funny to have a cyoa where all of the characters are completely up to interpretation
I very rarely enjoy companions in CYOAs. ScottishAnon's are OK - I like the ones in Honor Among Thieves too, coming up next. This one goes out to the anon who is a Docklands fanatic
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>>96597686The often-said but little-heeded advice goes, the core of a companion should be its connection to other parts of the cyoa; eg they reveal a certain side of a certain faction (like the OR exarchate civil war factions each mostly have a corresponding contact you can pick), they can be defined by their relation to other characters, they can be defined by their abilities... all of that works much better than building the core of their personality from personality types. The fitting and interesting personality type will probably be obvious once the connection to the rest of the cyoa is well established.
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>>96597709>>96597706excellent insight, that sums it up way better than what I suggested and (now that I think about it) is actually the common thread between the two examples I gave! I like to imagine authors playing through their CYOA to help generate the companions, although I don't think a unique ability for each one would go amiss
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>>96597552more filled now.8 will be a raptor to match how she appears with 5.
>>96597736Sarmat has to be Light Yagami.
>>96597552Updated my build a little. If this moves me out of Zelo, ignore the new characters I added, but in addition to adding characters, I also streamlined the character. I've tried to avoid taking characters that others have taken so I can stay in this world (sadly Dobrava is taken), but just in case. If anyone sees any overlap that boots me out of Zelo, I'll post a third, definitive version.0^0>I feel like SRTR fits better, but fuck it. I'm sure she'd understand that I need more AP to deliver her a cooler story. Not like I did anything with her perks in the previous build anyways.Death: [Buki]Outer TideBurn the future (x1)MaleMother: Zwa Aureole [Her'v]Father: Iwnn Aureole [Cherv]Race: Northerner (duh)No language bonuses - in addition to Everman, Old Northern, and Elven-Northern that my parents have, I'll take Sylphid and Entramithratic.Location: The Empire of Light and Dark (The Everrising City)>I presume I'd spend my childhood in the various villages that surround the capitol region rather than the city proper. Close enough to the capitol to get opportunities when I'm old enough without having to move, far enough not to have a spotlight on me when I'm an infant and can't walk.Inborn gifts: Ethereal beauty, boiling blood, second wind, cognitive speed, flowing gait, martial instinct, noble inclination, eye for shadows, icon of icons, fighter's eye, treacherous palm, royal claim>Martial instinct, eye for shadows, icon of icons, and royal claim are free.Mentors: Gwriel [Glagoli], Zu'us [Tverdo-Yee]Companions: Evdokia [Dobro-Zhivete], Gunter [Zelo], Omega [Ot], Geminara of the Doria [Yer], NilmatrixGunter Companions: Kalliopa Aureole, Savmak, BlazhkoEncounters:>Never alone - Evdokia>Nothing ever happens - Gwriel>A Massacre at Midnight - Zu'us>On the edge - Geminara of the Doria>Ready, aim, thunder - Omega>Shadow of God - NihlmatrixYouth: Martial training, leadership training, profane lore, natural philosophyQuest: Ameno
>>96597841Ah fuck, forgot to add extra companion.
>>96597694I like cyoas that do unique things with companions like evoker's oath or rising dragon
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>>96597841You are supposed to have 2 eye fore shadow'es
>>96597857It should be mandatory to post the CYOA you are discussing. Would you mind? at least elaborate, I don't remember ever seeing either>>96597861is there a difference between these versions, other than the letters?
Thinking about the fact that you can steal Evdokia's powers while keeping yours by triggering Fiert at the same time that a slow-acting poison kills your original body.You get power Erginter would be jealous of and all it costs you is a poor northerner girl who thought you were her friend.
>>96597892That is actually a pretty steep price
>>96597892Evdokia is a dogshit tier fiert target. You can get all her relevant powers by just having her in your general vicinity.What you want to do is get Baf to eat Erginter's corpse, then go around collecting all the good gifts, then fiert into her.
>>96597891Only because you asked nicelyYou better make a build for both
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>>96597565>All these worlds fight in a battle royaleWhich world wins?
>>96597891Here's the second
>>96597868Do I? It's been a while since I read that deeply, but I assumed overlapping eyes would simply give me one eye instead of two.>>96597892Anyone who dares hurt Evdokia deserves to be Kako'd.
>>96597920Give me your guess and we'll discuss itYou lazy bones you
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>>96597902Wtf argument is this. "You can benefit from having someone's powers by having them on your team." That's true of everyone; if you're fiert-abusing you're doing it for personal power.
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>>96597897Erginter would pay it. She was a hero. Aren't you a hero, anon?
>>96597927Az and Buki have the most outsiders, though I think Buki is relatively weak for how many they have. Az does have a few shitters, but it's not quite as bad.Vedi is third in numbers but it's almost all jobbers.Glagoli is decently strong. Zhivete could win by surprise, though it's just as likely that they all kill themselves first.Overall, it's probably Az.
>>96597841No respect for pure fighteroid builds.
>>96597934You don't gain any special benefit by becoming the soul bank. In fact, you lose all your awesome gifts and the opportunity cost of getting a better body. All she can do is trap and summon souls. Bafginter can directly steal gifts.If you're going to betray her, you should Savmak her into an awesome weapon.
Vtorusha thought she was in Gurren Lagann, but she was in Evangelion :(
>>96597959I feel like having more outsiders doesn't really help your chances, given that they have effectively exponential power scalingMost of these worlds couldn't beat VtorushaAz probably wins, but it depends on the timescale and whether or not fate is in effect. If fate is, then vedi builds are effectively the only consideration, given that there exists magic that can trigger all other deathsIf fate isn't in play then several people instantly get themselves killed via random urukthe odds are 50% Az, 50% any S tier power holder, 100% Neophyte Sevastian if he is let run
>>96597904I will do so later tonight, as a special treat just for you. Thanks!
>>96597978>All she can do is trap and summon soulsYou say as if that isn't the most busted shit in the world. She's not limited to inborn gifts in her power-stealing; she just takes it all: inborn gifts, trained skills, letters of the damned, weird non-heritable not-gifts like Death of the Author, everything. If she eats a dead Bafginter, she can have her Bafginter-ghost steal gifts, and she has other active ghost slots still in play. The ghosts serve her, not your party. She's un-nerfed Glastig Uaine in a setting with better ghosts to collect; the only character who competes is the nerfed-into-oblivion-but-still-Khepri Khepri.
>>96598009I'll be waiting!
>>96598007>Neophyte Sevastianhe forgets his entire plan day one minute one second one and just does random stuffno way he wins
>>96597791Good thought. I've never watch it, do you have a good scene in mind?Added 8. I couldn't find a good gif of a raptor eating, so she's a raptor in 5 but a komodo dragon in 8.Replaced 9, the previous gif was uninspired.
>>96598042His ability is to access his souls memoriesOutsiders can be inferred to be near ascension
>>96598022That's great and all, but you can only summon a few spirits at a time. And obviously if they're uncooperative (if you killed them they probably will be), you're SOL. It's not even stronger than a basic bitch Icon of Icons build.Just taking their gifts straight up, no strings attached, is a much better deal. Especially when the combat difference between summoning the spirits yourself and having Evdokia summon the spirits is minimal. She's an easily manipulated, vulnerable young girl. You really think she's gonna betray you in any way?Stealing other people's power is a loser mentality in the first place. Be someone who has power other people want to steal.
>>96597567Missing the last bug tranny build he did for someone else. https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96547410/#q96553371
Why is there always at least three threads up for no reason?
>>96598069>Be someone who has power other people want to steal.This. A friendly reminder that even Aatginter was weaker than Charlie and Vtorusha, who created their own cool stuff.
>>96598092* old thread (made on 9+ page these days)* new thread* faggot thread that a certain faggot keeps remaking
>>96598054>takes Az>autoantecedences himself the ability to just keep his memoriesBlessing of SRTR tier. Imposing Earth upon ORland was Charlie's idea, and it's clearly not an "I win" button. And the whole botany plan is de-facto undeath. You're rehashing a story that's already concluded.Although, that's not necessarily a point against him in terms of power, and evil nature spirits are pretty cool.Honestly though, even if he does have time, I don't think he wins a battle royale. Like, how does he defend against nightmare shitters corrupting his dreams? Or a vtorusha reawakener? Or an Old Throne sitter? Or even a Trve Dragon that decides to impose upon his dream because fuck you? It just seems like a long term plan that would get fucked over early, or outscaled in the late game. Especially since, even if fate is in play, he has no death letter protection. also I take issue with>The zeroeth ghost is a seed of authentic terrestrial space with its own physics, metaphysics, and magic. This magic isn't based on writing in any alphabet, not Latin, not Ethiopian, and certainly not Babylonian. It's based on plants.Magic in real life is 1000% based on language. That's why it's called a "spell". That's why it's called a "grimoire". That's why we say "bless you", why we curse, why people chant mantras, say prayers, carve runes, or sing hymns. It's why half of creation myths begin with "let there be light" or some similar act of speech. The Egyptians literally called their own writing system "god-script" or something close to it.Especially when we're talking about Jewish mysticism. That's like their entire thing. It's what half or more of the CYOA is based on.
>>96597444Should all core battleships and larger have Herald "Blink"? This dodge is the only way they have of surviving an Anti-Matter Cannon attack.
>>96597552New excel table from tankista from last thread, for whoever missed it.
>>96598407I will demote Simimar to bottom tier for this woke degeneracy.
>>96598407Black and Yellow chads.
>>96598407>even Erginter has more worshipper than Keterthat's rough
>>96598407Anyone who does not worship Vtorusha is my sworn enemy
>>96598441jobbed to herself
>>96598407Fuck:SecessionistsAbolitionistsConcilatorsDemon Empire of Light and DarkMarry:Crown of OutsideAll Humans MovementLegalistsKill:CompromisersTraditionalistsNeopanthean MovementExtreme NeopantheansOrdinariate of OutsideRestorationistsDragon Hero Movement
>>96598407That one really changed the perspective on Exarchate and gave much better context to some other non-related options.>DKMDR now has plotline about controlling Exarchate in the new interestong way so they choices around Paxxia has consequences>Savmak the Girl instead of being random malnurished orphan with Savmak the Sword now has her own story going on which you can play into without even taking her>Inga can also be part of it now>Demon Empire of Dark and Light is now a proper entity if you want them to be and another interesting majin option alongside Dis and Stygia>Neopantheans are core for Exarchate Solipsism option and play well into taking Pukluxun and Zhuchka>Ordinariate of Outside is now option to have proxy war with CharlieAll around fun additions.Hope Tankista make similar ones for DKMDR and Empire's regency crisis outcomes.
>>96598407This stuff is pretty kino. Would you guys be interested in a special tide world focused on the Exarchate Civil War?
>>96598508I would if I didn't already have a build.
>>96598508You mean, different anons on different sides? And the real winner is whoever fucks off and uses the distraction to take over the rest of Doria and Mamet?
>>96598483The Demon Empire was always a thing, there were only like two builds that leaned into it though.
>>96598508>Republic of Light and Dark (if it exists)>Kingdom of Tenebrae (if it exists)>Kingdom of Qliphoth (if it exists)Can a lorefag explain to me how those factions come to life? IIRC Qliphoth are the Lichyard, but Tenebrae is extinct besides Alezandre, and I don't remember talks of a Republic.
>>96598515Maybe we can allow alts just for special worlds like this one?>>96598517Im assuming we ban builds that tries the fuckoff strategy or has nothing to do with the Exarchate. It would defeat the purpose of a special world focused on the Exarchate if we allow such builds in.
>>96598538The republic is probably on a different, uncompleted lore docOne of your sister options probably is a child of Iwnn who wants to abolish the monarchy (Bad, dumb, foolish descision)
>>96598508Sure, why not
>>96598538>I don't remember talks of a Republic.Gwriel wants to start a republican revolution.
>>96598547The Imperial princess companion's (I forget her name) text said the empire is headed for its end. If that's a fate thing, then reforming as republic may subvert the end.
>Let's do Outer Tide again!istg ORfags are unhinged
>battle royaleThose who can directly profit from the conflict (spellthieves, necromancers, Evdokia-trickers and Erginter-cosplayers) and/or good at hiding and/or survival (Rhu-discipes, All-Glimpsers, VoF-abusers) will most likely win.
>>96598576You can't have direct conflict between builds, that's just a fuckfest of conflicting headcanons at worst and differing interpretations at best.
>>96598508I'd definitely be busting Calafarn back out for the Legalists.
>>96598538>Republic of Light and DarkThere's republican faction in the Anti-Sisterly parties. It's mentioned directly in the "On The Edge" encounter, and Iraida is implied to be a member. Their victory is listed as a possibility in that encounter, or maybe (you) could convince Kalliopa to make concessions to them if she gets the crown.>TenebraeAFAIK there's no encounter for just winning Tenebrae Independence, but it's a plot hook you can advance outside the encounter system. Currently, the Tenebrae revival movement is a Pandemonium puppet lead by Makariy, who is descended from the lost crown. The "raze New New York and let them suffer" secessionist direction is him and Pandaemonium, and it's what happens if he's still in charge and unchanged when Tenebrae wins independence.However, he's not written as irredeemable, so (you) might convince him to change his ways, especially if you're his kid, or the straightforward option is to win "A Massacre At Midnight" to break the Pandemonium ties and take leadership of the movement yourself, which could lead to different results. I'm working on a solo build that does this (and now have to revise for the new lore lol).>QliphothYou said it; the Lichyard is trying to bring it back as a puppet state. Hladvig also wants it as a genuine kingdom, but he's a pretty bad dude too.
>>96598570What's the alternative?
>>96598576Which build is the best Rhu-disciple? My money's on the best Rhu-disciple winning a battle royale.
>>96598520Sure but it was almost non-entity other than picking Mihrdat for questionable royal claim and using some of the encounters about building a nation on Hexlands. Now it is a fully legit way to play into Exarchate civil war.And I guess Jdan's angle is also now clear — he wants to keep status quo, have Exarchate remain as a country with its own independent agenda with Vtorusha worship to counterweight Empire and DKMDR expansions.
>>96598607ThaumaradrakUnhinged and has plenty of alt accounts.
>>96598637None of them are valid for Outer Tide, so who cares.
>>96598508Hiro Protagonist solos
>>96598624I thought the description in Hexland + MIhrdat's character painted a pretty clear picture? It's a frozen marshy wasteland with nothing but room and the descendants of the Majin who fled Tenebrae when it fell. Barely contested because the neither the Empire nor the Exarchate care all that much about it, but it could become more relevant if a land connection were made (and it just so happens that the first joint Northerner/Majin kingdom, which EoL&D might actually want, is located directly between the Demon Empire and the EoL&D)
>>96598607The one that makes Rhucuphre like them the most.
>>96598540>>96598508For this world are overlaps still banned? Because it would be really funny for a bunch of infant children of the viceroy to be battling each other with untimeskipped magic.
>>96598604You could also pull off an independent Tenebrae before the civil war via Duphroru betrayal targeting Clodnobask, to flip the region from the Exarchate. If you completed A Massacre At Midnight before that, you get to become the king of Tenebrae this way.
>>96598642Nah, they're valid.
>>96598576>>96598607The best strategies in battle royale games seem to be:>quietly looting then waiting until the end>aggressively seeking out other players to immediately gain and maintain loot and pressure advantage >teamingSo basically, Rhu build, he who shall not be named, and Icon of Icons friend spammer.
>>96598689>samefagging in a multiplayer is validKill yourself.
>>96598680Personally I think we should ignore overlaps for the special world.If we ban overlaps the Notable Persons related to the war would get eaten up fast even assuming we restrict them to 1 Notable Person per build. The world might still end up an incoherent mess without an overlap ban but there's a reasonable chance it ends up coherent since its focused on one nation and event.
>>96598715This isn't /mcyoag/.
>>96598721>defending samefaggingGo back then kill yourself.
There was definitely samefagging in the first tide. I'm not gonna dig through a month's worth of threads in 2022 for evidence, but there were a lot of builds that had similar formatting and typing styles.
>>96598736Virtually there is samefagging in all multiplayers.
Does Erginter's corpse still have the Archdrakeodaemon's extracted Yest' majin letter? Couldn't you just use that with Daemonhunt knowledge to steal gifts pretty easily like Erginter. Or just take it to Dei, let her make a remembrance and get a fresh copy of her Yest' letter and force her to teach you before giving her deja vu.
>>96598695>aggressively seeking out other players to immediately gain and maintain loot and pressure advantageWhat even is pressure advantage in context? And can you imagine describing loot in precise enough terms for this "loot advantage" to work?I recall the matter being discussed in context of African and Chinese Warlord multiplayer. Unless you design elaborate rules:1. everyone is incentivized to join the biggest team(s); for a healthy contest, the opposite should be true, teams should be self-balancing2. everyone is incentivized to stay out of fights and wait for other players to hunt each other down, which therefore never happens. This doesn't require Rhu or any sort of competence
>>96598736Yeah, I had 4 builds there but I'm not stupid enough to out myself as a samefag. Triggers the severely autistic too much.
Curious, what are people's thoughts on Grim outlook?
>>96598736You're probably right, but formatting isn't a very good indicator. There are only a handful of build formatting styles that aren't retarded, so many will end up doing things completely the same.
>>96598778Yea I definitely stole other people's formatting when posting my build
>>96597552>Just realized that Krugopryad and Esu master was MaouI like hidden lore as much as anyone but their entries seemed to imply that their Demon Lord died, why make the connection so obtuse.I'm surprised so few picked her, she was the most important mentor/companion for my v1 build.
>>96598682Now I'm tempted to swap out Krugopryad for Duph lol. I had spidergirl because she's good with Panarmament x2 and my theme with companions is collecting sad/lonely people to be their friends, but fate-backed tenebrae independence would be really nice
>>96598789You have to be a Daemonhost build to benefit fully from her, restricting the number of people who'd pick her. There's also more competition from other mentors in v2.
>>96598789She's still pretty popular? 6 people as of last time the spreadsheet anon did the count, same as Gewrgin and Herleva and only one less than Eirina. There's less discussion about her since not much has changed for her since v1, but I mean, she kept me from being compatible with some of the early worlds.
>>96598808She will still teach you summoning magic without Daemonhost so that's just a bonus. Plus her teaching you to be the best at guerilla warfare is great. You could probably just drop her at the Ecumene with a few supporters and some supplies and she could become a thorn on Charlie's own backyard.
>>96598776Reusable VoF cow.
>>96598758>What even is pressure advantage in context? The privilege of deciding encounters on your terms. To be the one that acts first rather than the one that reacts is a MASSIVE advantage. Agressive builds that apply pressure early (like he who has no dick) force you to play around their strategy. You either adapt and sacrifice what you have to, or you just get steamrolled. It’s like playing against an aggro deck in a card game. You don’t have the luxury of playing your deck if you’re busy playing against theirs.>And can you imagine describing loot in precise enough terms for this "loot advantage" to work?Anything that can only be obtained out in the world that gives you a material advantage. I.e. not obtained from character creation or by training in a hole somewhere. Especially things that are difficult to obtain or wholly unique.It could be literal loot, it could information, it could be allies, anything really. Erginter’s corpse, the Savmak sword, poulden Anti-Texts, some old warmachina…>everyone is incentivized to join the biggest team(s);Big teams are inherently less cohesive than small ones. In a “last one standing” scenario, betrayal is just a matter of time.>everyone is incentivized to stay out of fights and wait for other players to hunt each other down, which therefore never happens.This is why battle royale games almost always feature a shrinking play area. This is also counterbalanced by agressive players trying to snowball. Confrontation will be forced one way or another, probably fate. I’d say that much is included in the premise of a battle royale. Otherwise nobody fights and it’s not a battle royale…
>>96597694>to the anon who is a Docklands fanaticBless you ASCII.>CompanionsTo be honest I have a hard time getting into CYOA's that don't have companions.I think the best way to implement companions is with a couple sentences or maybe a paragraph or two. More can be unwieldy. To lean in to a trope or personality quirk that helps get across their general character while mentioning something about the setting, whether that's a place, item or other character to help cement them in the world and make the setting feel more alive.Funnily enough there's a couple NSFW cyoa's that do something with companions that's very interesting. Depending on other choices you make you gain or lose points with certain companions that determine how they feel about you by the end. I wish more SFW cyoa's implemented similar systems.Accomodations:-Waterside Apartment-StreetwiseTradegood:-Scavenger's RodsLand Hazards:-Non-Euclidian-Alley ThugsWater Hazards:-Sea Mist-Moonfish-Shallow Sleepers-Mystrious BellsCrow Amulet:-JackdawsLand Features:-Chip Shop-The Britannia Inn-The Observatory-Twisting TowersWater Features:-Tidal Caves-Kelp SpiresResidents:-Marcelle: The Mime-Dwight: The Fisherman-Leroy: The BuskerEvents:-Macabre Puppet Show-Skylight Festival-Battleship Brawl-Sea Shanties-Ferrymans Transit-Night Market-Whale MigrationPerks:-Longterm Resident-Moonwalker-Docklands Sense-Camaraderie-Corvus KinshipThe plan is to stay for the long haul. Doing a lot of urban exploring and scavenging amongst the industrial wasteland. The perks I've taken should help with this. Providing some physical safety and lessoning the strain on my mental health.
>>96598776The lore about cursed equipment that it dumps is nice, but i never find myself wanting to take it outside of multi-O builds. Eye gifts are just super competitive.
Oh wow Aes is a really unpopular mother
>I'll just make one more build...
>>96598955The words no author wants to hear.
Being born to Aes is like deciding that you should be raised by an Az Urukanon.
>>96598776One of the strongest gifts in the CYOA. Maybe even the strongest, if you build around it. The combinations and god-script infusion can create some crazy effects.Otherwise it’s just a neat multiocular O addon.It has a number of glaring flaws:>you can only infuse gifts that you have>getting cursed sucks and you can only give cursed items to voluntary recipients>other eye gifts are really strongObviously if you building around it and/or getting autoantecedence, these problems can be solved. But again, you have to build around it to maximize the potential.Making a fuckload of cursed items then pawning them off on undead Uruk is like half of the point of Uruk Necromancer that shitposters seem to miss for some reason.
>>96598952I'm putting the finishing touches on an Aes mom build! Probably posting tomorrow but we'll have exactly one Aes build soon! Ignore the fact that it's adoption; her gifts didn't work at all with my dad choice
>>96598966>spoilerRUINED
>>96598966>adoption
>>96598970Listen there is exactly one father candidate available if you want to be a halfbreed majin/northerner with a reason to be in hexland, and he has completely overlapping gifts with mom
>>96598962worked for Barsik
>>96598978Just use Mitrofan, Hexland is technically contested and he could probably drum up an excuse to be there
>>96598421There, it now reflects my objectively correct contempt for the Ecumene Beta.
>>96598965They are random for his x3. They are lesser than the real deal. They can be stolen.
Does this mean Xian just popped into existence one day? Somehow awkward and inelegant if so. Or does it mean fate arranged for circumstances to align which would cause Xian to emerge, so there's a separate causal reason why Xian came to exist?
>>96598994Replace Anahita with a picture of her granddad.
>>96599012We don't have one, and I'm not representing him separately, for the same reason that Paxxia isn't here.
>>96599010I think it’s #2The God-Script was probably damaged when Vtorusha stole a letter like a crackhead stealing a catalytic converted
>>96599010Hmm, this would probably mean that Xian was the outcome of somebody's 'death' letter, that's normally how the System spontaneously does freaky things.
>>96598996>randomThis is a good thing. You can access gifts you don’t have, even 3x’s or ones not in the outsider system. Just keep rolling the gatcha and giving the trash pulls to your undead slaves. Grim Outlook is already partly random by default, as you can’t control how the gift manifests on the item.>they are lesserThe gifts are lesser, but you’re also infusing them with an equal number of god-script curses. Which can create unique effects, depending on the interaction of gifts and letters.>They can be stolenKind of, but not really. The vast majority of it will be junk that only mindless undead Uruk would ever use. And if you try to steal a cursed item, it constantly returns to you unless you find someone to take it from you willingly.
>>96599010Majin are a person with a letter entombed in them or a letter given form as a person. That they appeared shortly after Vtorusha stole a letter from the godscript and trapped it in a machine isn't going to be a coincidence. The fact that Xian's first act after emerging was vengeance against Vtorusha's enemies (the elves) is also going to be a coincidence.
>>96598604There's a whodunit encounter that turns out to be have been orchestrated by Tenebrae revivalists and one of the suggested endings is them crowing you as the leader of revived Tenebrae. Don't have the CYOA open to tell you the name of it.
>>96599169That's "A Massacre at Midnight", which I mentioned
>>96597904Why did you post that oddly compiled version of Evoker's Oath? The author's version is only one jpg longer and doesn't have the big white divider bars splitting up the list of spirit pacts.
>>96598092>Why is there always at least three threads up for no reason?We've got a clique of people who refuse to use any thread that Tok makes, but who also wait until the last minute to make their own. So Tok's been making new ones when we're past bump limit (and on page 7 or so) which the anti-Tok thread clique ignores, and then they make a second new thread just before the post-bump limit one falls off the board.To be honest, I'm surprised the mods aren't giving the anti-Tok threaders a harder time. Tok can be infuriating, but he does set the new thread up right, and (usually) doesn't troll anyone with the OP (that comes later). So there's no point in making a second new thread. There isn't even really a joke to it, like the old "super safe for work" cyoa thread had.
>>96598007>If fate is, then vedi builds are effectively the only consideration, given that there exists magic that can trigger all other deathsAll Vedi ensures is that you'll be able to pass on your teachings to the 12ths. You can do that just fine as a book, or someone's undead slave
>>96597552Could By Design be one of Dobrava's three special encounters, assuming it's the last of the three?
>>96599466By Design relies on you being present as a guest author to make the selected character more a part of your story and not the Gods'. Dobrava shouldn't be able to do anything about it, or Causality is far far more spooky than how it looks like.
>>96598007>100% Neophyte Sevastian if he is let runRereading the world, I think Manusya countered it rather well. A kind of cycle of erosion/eternal rebirth continues, with all the other elements that fit perfectly into the narrative.My best guess is that the world doesn’t attack the other, until someone decides to conquer the seemingly inert world, which unleashes the Infinite/True Rust Memory on the rest, and it is sealed/destroyed.They're the Uruks of the battle royale.
>ManusyaAh, yes, that one shitty build that is somehow more overwanked than Goku and Scourge combined
>>96599558It's assumed that most anons succeed at what they're trying to do. He's trying to immediately ascend into being a type of Elder God, so he ends up the strongest if we assume he'll succeed at it.
>>96599567We (me, myself and I) don't.
This spirit conscript thing is pretty neat actually
>>96599580Okay, Orkharlorkan, Troll Cock, and Scourge.
Are there alternate methods of becoming an Empyrean besides beating Nilmatrix or serving 0^0?
>>96599604Someone with the right x3 Spirit Tap can give it to you temporarily.
>>96599604Aatginter corpse, since Tankista said they ascended to Empyreality before committing sudoku. You could either try with the corpse or have Baf absorb it.
Couldn't you just create a spell to exile Empyreans if their state is being detached from the narrative? Maybe force Tsy to interact with their Khier to produce the result of leaving the narrative.
>>96599597>not Goku
>>96599711Damn, now I want to build Goku Black as the pro 0^0 build to mirror him.
>>96599724>Goku Doomslayer Naruto Black.His build is shit also, so its not really hard to make something better.
>>96599724Actually it's "Goku Sasuke Master Chief Kakarot".
>>96599466It's useless since it's not for the one doing the encounter but for the companion of that encounter. Since she does the encounters alone there's no one who could benefit from it.
>>96597473>FocusComfort (U)>LandingDivine Transcendence (U)>False WizardryAll>Divine TranscendenceAll>Prismatic CorruptionGemergence / Every Limb in Motion>UnbeingNothing Immovable / Eternal Grasp>The WorldPeace Offering>SpecialUnraveled Mind / Infinite Sun>Manifestation : 100%Lust / Victory / Monsters / Infection / Antagonist>Mechanical PurposeHome Free / Networking & Beyond Limits or Wanderlust
You should marry Paxxia.
Lol
>>96599877Can't, I have no rizz so I can't do it without true love, and I can only true love her as her sibling.
>>96599886>I have no rizz so I can't do it without true loveStop devaluing yourself. I'm sure everyone here can bag an Unnotable farmer girl.
There are cuter dragons than Paxxia.
>>96599932Onee-chan is the cutest THOUGH.
Stop having sex with evil women.
>>96599954They're redeemed through cock. I'm saving the world.
>>96599954Is Paxxia even that evil?
>>96599954>evil womenPaxxia is an evil loli, we're good.
>>96599886> Aatginter rolling in their grave after finding out their kids are fucking each other
my sister-wife Paxxia is so cute...
>>96599964We're keeping the bloodline pure.
Goku wins
>>96599983at being the cringiest
>>96599983Darwin Awards?
>>96599999>>96600000double quints, sorry goku but it is now cannon that you are cringe and die as a jobber
>>96599999>>96600000goku solos your build
>>96599999>>96600000Checked
>>96599999>>96600000
>>96600005>>96600010>>96600014>>96600017Goku solos ALL of your samefag builds.
>>96600021the only thing you solo is your love life loser LMAO
>>96599999>>96600000>YMRD has the Pillar of Chance>She had a known distaste for the "Nah, I'd solo" Erginter>this happensIt's an interesting coincidence.
>>96600026>still seething>>96600029you know that post numbers aren't random, right?
>>96600035They're not.The fact that somehow they managed to get that exact sequence is lucky though.
This truly is YMRD's update...
>>96600017
>>96597841Hey is that a softie build
>>96600007>>96600021>goku sol- ACK!
>>96600007>>96600021Jobberku doesn't even solo his own verse
Goku would actually be ripped apart IRLSince physics would never allow it to be
>>96600094ok charlie
>>96600094Shut up bitch. Go make me a sandwich.
Moving like Sonic would rip you apart too
It's like T*k never left...
>>96599597Isn't Orkha one of the Rhucuphrefag's?
Shooting energy out of the skin isn’t really feasible either
>>96600094>>96600110>>96600123Why are you like this? Do you hate fun?
>>96600128NTA but the DBZspic is annoying, so fuck him.
>>96600094>>96600110>>96600123Batman soloes your entire bloodline irl
And no you can’t dodge bullets, let alone a bolt of lightning
Ladies, stop. Uruk Necromancer is the true solo KANG.
>>96600141View of Fore + Autoantecendance on speed legs might do the trick, no?
>>96600141You can have if you have enough Aura and took Zlata
>>96600147>>96600153Sorry that’s not real life Grow up
>>96600134Nah, your worse.
>>96600155Charlie?
>>96600141>>96600155Shut up nerd. I will do your mom.
>>96600155Charlotte Reincarnation?
>>96600155Matterwife...
>>96600158>>96600162>>96600163>>96600165Only in your play dough la la imagination land
>>96600172>only in /cyoag/Good enough for me!
>>96600172Finally. Paxxia, Keter, Charlie and Rhucuphre can go home. Now a REAL lady came to the thread.
>>96598407>The Blues>Secessionists, rebels, foreign puppets, monarchists, inquisition era catholics, and filthy neutralsMaybe the whites have a point after all.
>>96600165Splatter in Matter...
>>96600206>he doubtedThat's confirmation at best. Senamotis was and still is the only saving grace of that faction.
Do any of you really want a drakonid wife?You've seen how they look without their clothes on the Races page, right? Is that really what you're going for?
>>96600222Who else can handle the massive girth of the Uruk.
>>96600222I'm not very interested in romance, but looks are probably secondary at best if you really love your significant other.
>>96600233There's saying that looks are secondary, and then there's marrying a girl whose body is mostly lizard.
>>96600241That's a plus though?
>>96600241Point.That still won't stop [True Love]. Or scalies.
>>96600222YesGonna have her lay so many eggs she'll feel like a chicken
>>96600222There's just no True Dragons left Anon. I'll take what I can get.
you will never be Super Saiyan
>>96600252>I'll take what I can get.How romantic
Fellas, would a Majin with Yest give the best head
>>96600255I will never be X-Saiyan…
>>96600263Muddish girls are into dick worship, this is the obvious pick.
Warmachina are inherently magical right? So you can't grim outlook them?
>>96600275correctthough maybe you could grim outlook on the warmachina's weapons or something, if they aren't already magical
>>96600275Yes, but you always can try to give your warmachina a separate cursed weapon.
>>96598009Bro, your builds???
Gil?Celt?ARO??Pca…TOK!!!Sda…PEIL!!!???…Bliss……Beri…
I was gonna post my OR build, but there are too many already. I'll just wait for v3.
>>96600340Be quicker next time lil bro
>>96600340Congratulations. This is the most ridiculous reasoning I've seen in a while.
>>96600322Are you off your meds or something
Thinking about it, has anyone made a Warmachina Demon Lord build with Pershepa as a mother and getting adopted by one of the insular auburn speakers?
>>96600380>Warmachina>Demon Lord>Pershepa as a mother>getting adopted by one of the insular auburn speakersYou realize how unlikely the list is, right?
>>96600380I did it except for the insular auburn speakers. Adoption is getting gutted later anyways.
>>96600389>Adoption is getting gutted later anyways>2/3 of the strategies get patchedWhy the fuck? Is Tankista a nofunfaggot?
>>96600385Vadim would adopt you if he found out you had Warmachia mounting pretty easily since he wants highlord supporters. Jdan knows you with time loops.
>>96600385A little bit, but Boyana could probably cover the adoption bit(I have no idea where the dungeoneering guilds are)>>96600389Dang, why tho? Keter abuse or something?
>I'm nerfing Unnotable parents by 1DP this version since it was so powerful>Adoption is fine with the 20+AP it can provide when paired with MisalliancePretty obvious outcome.
>>96600402Keter and Thaumiel are getting changed to "any one langauge" or something similar.The problem with adoption is getting the value of ~3 gifts for a low price, something that makes players do uninteresting and/or nonsensical choices for the sake of points. Bunch of builds with Adoption Misalliance Maiosara Yesod, which is boring.
>>96600401AlsoMass producing majin that know how to make lesser warmachina surely wouldn't go awry
>>96600417>please please PLEASE roleplay as a lowlife farmerShit author
>>96600417Okay, so then anons use Pir, Aat, or Stoyan and misalliance any given mother.
Insular Auburn isn't even close to worth it.
>>96600426None of the Insular bonuses are. Which is why they will be buffed next version.
When is OR v3 coming out?
>+5AP/+5DP for freejnpl mommy chads are gonna be eating good in v3
>>96600425Yes, i however, already did that, so i need not to cope. He also said something about rebalancing parents though, Maiosara is probably is getting gutted, not sure about the rest. If Aat gets the nerfbat it's over.
>>96600434Aat doesn't even remotely need a nerf.
Isnt making new Warmachina kind of a big deal even if its not the Greater stuff? Like, most of the ones still running around are fodder from the war of heaven and earth right?
>>96600424Nothing there stops you form having a royal mother and father and roleplaying as a prince.
Don't cry about exploit strategies getting patched; look forward to the exploit strategies we'll discover in v3 instead. The sibling expansion seems promising.
>>96600430>>96600443>There's a bit of a contradiction I've put myself into. The Old Throne is incapable of producing new lesser warmachina, but there is a rare skill that allows you to build some. I am planning to (one day) resolve this by classifying each different type of lesser warmachina and note the year in which each of them stopped being made (the Old Throne was still capable of making most of them before the Great Dark Age). And at the end there will be perhaps two types of "modern" lesser warmachina that are actually produced today, but rarely. One of them will be actually assembled out of semi-working parts of long broken warmachina, while the other is an entirely new design that only imitates the old lesser warmachina using modern magical and mechanical theories. That way you both get to be one of the few craftsmen who have the skill matching in the language bonus, and the Old Throne is still largely incapable of making new warmachina.
>>96600450I don't want to be inbred.
>>96600417>Keter and Thaumiel are getting changed to "any one langauge" or something similar.I hope this is only for adoption purposes and they still count as any for language bonuses.
>>96600442Doesn't he? He gives a bunch of gifts pretty much everyone wants and Daemonhost, which is about 11 points if you consider Daemonhost is worth 5 points, kinda high on the table. On the flipside, your mom is now a single mom unless you use adoption i guess, and you can only chose 2 mothers, both of which are not so bad but limit your choices.
>>96600457> but there is a rare skill that allows you to build some.give us makers brush pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease give us makers brush
>>96600402>Dang, why tho?The change from AP to DP for the adopted parent made it an unreasonably strong option since it gives you so many gifts for free. That's why it went from a practically unused choice to one everyone picked. The simple answer is to make it not refund the birth parent since that was the whole issue with it in the first place.
>>96600471>and DaemonhostIf you're a Majin then your mom hates you and thinks you're a cursed baby until you worm your way into her good graces. You have to pick adoption or be a hybrid to benefit from this.
>>96600484> Dark Elf/Majin Hybrid> Hybrid Sickness> Eternal CurseFuck that adopt me Mecha Daddy Yaropolk
>>96600498Yaropolk is underrated
>>96600478A better solution might have been to make it give you destiny points equal to the cost of your birth parent. Maybe make them only spendable on whoever's adopting you if you're that afraid of abuse.
>>96600498I think some builds like Liadan went for it, also Eternal Curse overwrites other starting lifespan options, so you won't get hybrid sickness.
>>96600484Don't worry, trust the plan it's gonna work, it was written so in the Godscript. Is it really so bad to be a Majin in Stygia?
>>96600466>language bonusesAlso getting gutted, at least the AP giving ones.
>>96600539Nooooo I havent even posted the build where I abuse benewhisper yetI should get on that
>>96600529Know what else was written in the godscript?
>>96600563Just be a sweet, earnest kid that loves your mom baka
>>96600563Ah good old childhood Charlie moment surely it will end well
>>96600563Wouldn't they suspect they were raped in their sleep than rather immaculately impregnated?
>>96600563Oh, so THAT'S why she let Paxxia rape me.
>>96600563Being real tho, you should be able to create a Majin mom/nanny to raise you instead. If you're in Stygia then you might be able to get Dei to support you? >>96600568How're you planning on worming your way into her good graces while you're 0-2 years old? The ages where you need parents or someone else looking after you the most?>>96600578Likely playing into why you're signing up for a rough childhood if you go for it.
>>96600586>How're you planning on worming your way into her good graces while you're 0-2 years old?untimeskip language + noble inclination (the talking demon baby is extremely charismatic)
>>96600563Just be a good kid, maybe even kill those icky Uruks when they show up. Your dad even gave you Wisdom, can't fuck this up.
>>96600590And what would you do in this situation if you were the mom in question?
>>96600586> How're you planning on worming your way into her good graces while you're 0-2 years old? The ages where you need parents or someone else looking after you the most?Do what babies do, reach out to her and cryLet maternal instinct do the rest
>>96600563Just use untimeskipped late Thulean to apologize for using their womb to gestate in and kindly ask them to point the way towards Dei's court and possibly carry you there so you can cease bothering them. Maybe tell them to find you later when you mature for recompense.
>>96600586Your mom is not gonna abandon you outright, she still needs to teach you whatever it's in her description. She's likely just gonna be keeping an eye on you and be very stern until you can prove that you're a good boy.
>>96600605Is that even gonna work with a demon looking baby
>>96600612A baby is a fucking baby manEven if it looks like a wrinkly little demon
>>96600612Your appearance as a Majin depends on your letter, at least on how demonic you look, which is RNG. But you DID take Ethereal Beauty to not look like an ugly demon spawn, right?
What parents/location combination would give you the worst possible life?
>>96600539I honestly think the language bonuses were a miss for the most part. You are encouraged to go polyglot or bilingual since Cosmopolitan takes away so many options and insular makes every character become overly expensive as well. Some of them are extremely strong while others are crippled with their conditions. Free mentors and companions are worth more than what Sylphid gives you, but already knowing the language means that you cannot get the bonuses, making elven parents even worse mechanically. And the ones that scale infinitely like Duergar and Banewhisper also cripple you if your parents actually know them so if you are born in Stygia you have no reason to keep their languages but those outside of it can just get massive bonuses without intending to pick a single companion that requires it.
>>96600620The Horde
>>96600398>Is Tankista a nofunfaggot?He said that he's a hardline believer in the impermanence of all things, including Builds. The old must come to an end so that new can grow and prosper. True our most sagely author.
>>96600604https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Smgz8ZYDC1Q
>>96600605>>96600596I feel like you guys are underplaying the "expect to be shuned in the best case" thing. It's the best case scenario, so things can easily be worse than that.
>>96600619Ethereal beauty very important especially if your turning into undead better be a good looking undead like Spako than whatever One looks like
>>96600640Expect a Charlie moment, elf slavery
>>96600611>she still needs to teach you whatever it's in her descriptionParents aren't under the same obligation as mentors. The description are things they could teach you, but they can easily not do it if your childhood isn't ideal, you can run away from home, kill them with Nash/On or simply not get along with them. That's why they are all just called possibilities, not certainties.
>>96600640I just really don't think "expect to be shunned" means that you're mom is gonna immediately abandon you and let you die.I also think it depends a lot on where you are born, Stygia seems like the best pick, which is conveniently aligned with the languages the mothers give you naturally. But if you're trying to go somewhere else, be careful.
>>96600663Yeah Stygia's the best place for this, even if you don't manage to get into her good graces, then you still have Dei. Second place is probably Dis. Anywhere else is hoping fate decides to be nice to you.
>>96600640Do you seriously believe that picking a given Father option, along with one of the to given Mother options said Father gives, is gonna be an insta guaranteed bad end or at least super bad?I don't think there are or should be any "trap" options in the CYOA, but you seem to think that Aat (or at least without combining him with adoption and another Majin parent) is one.
>>96600677What would Dei even do if she All-Glimpsed you or your mom and found out about you? Would she know your dad is Aat? Assuming you didn't even pick Dei as a parent or as anything else.
Since they don't know about Aat, who does the general public believe to have been the Third Outsider? Is it a big historical debate?
>>96600679It's not a guaranteed bad end; there are tons of ways you can turn things around, and you're guaranteed to survive your childhood no matter what. Doesn't mean it's not going to be bad, especially when the cyoa goes out of its way to warn you of that.
>>96600687Ngl I just assumed that they assumed Erginter got them while they were doing a Turzik
>>96600687Probably think it's some Uber Tuzik that died in complete obscurity
>>96600687They probably think he was a Tuzik like person who didn't get into any major trouble and just adventured with friends like One did, you have to remember that the general public only learned of Outsiders properly after Savmak and this all happened over 700 years ago. You could end the debate if you want to change Xian image but it will probably lead to schisms.
>>96597552Armchair Theorist's Most Profound Musings:In order to modify a certain theological practice so that it primarily opposes Causality, let's try to perceive the possible end result from "literature" perspective. When a character raises all sorts of death flags and still ends up well, when tropes are played with and expectations are subverted, don't you love it? Less "caricature" and more "parody". ...but when the world is Meaningless, reduced to Tsifra, this "parody" may let us to reduce it even further. To absurd.
>>96600686She's looking for stuff connected to Aat's body, and you were directly born from him, so she'd probably look after you at least somewhat. What she's planning to do to you is up in the air, but she'll probably give you a caretaker if you fucked up and fail to get your mom to like you. You can probably convince her to adopt or teach you about being a demonlord without the Outsider systems' interference, but that's on you to accomplish.
You wouldn't kill a Majin baby. They're not Muddish.
>>96600707>You could end the debate if you want to change Xian image but it will probably lead to schisms.It could be ammo against the Whites if you really wanted to push people away from outsider worship/veneration.
>>96597552Lukabi (LKB: Lyudi-Kako-Buki. Means both "People as gods" and "People as an alphabet")Patron:YMRDYou: Female, Yat - Yee.Perks: Free Dice Fudge, Extra Mentor x4, Outer Tide.Mother: Dei (Iotated Az)Father: Pir (Cherv')Race: Majin, Khier. Distances the Meaning around me from the rest of the world, protecting it from the external devaluation, tampering or quantifying.Location: StygiaLanguages: Thulean, Everman, Benewhisper, Sylphid (+1 mentor); Quitened (Drakonic, Simplified Duergar); Tutored (Everman) x2;Gifts - Inherited: Demonhost, All-Glimpse, Spirit Tap x1, Royal Claim, Caster Intuition, Memory Retention, Intelligence, Wisdom.Malady - WereplagueGifts: Ethereal Beauty, Spirit Tap x1, Cognitive Speed, Attentiveness, Spiritual Feel, Kneeling Twilight x1, Dream Passage x1. Mentors: Kashtanka - Dice Fudge, Opoia, Seo, Rhucuphre.Companions:Ota, Baf, Esu.Encounters:Uruks - Troll, Ogres, Hobgoblin.Respawning Point - Kashtanka (Shta - Yee)Playing Traitors - Ota (Lyudi - Yee)Breaking and Entering - Opoia (Greater Yus)On Full Stomach - Esu (Yest)Wild and Wilder - Baf (Iotated Greater Yus - Zhivete)Interested and Dissolved - Rhucuphre (Sha)Upward Spiral - Seo (Glagoli)Remember the Demon - SeoYouth: Magical Training, Profane Lore, Theology, Power Testing.Quest: Temperantia.
>>96600708
>>96600742Would dethroning 0^0 make the world better? Would cultivating the Nightmare or cleansing it actually be preferable? Is Ota right? Why Aat decided to rebel, despite being so in tune with the Gods before? Choosing my goal without knowing the answers to a lot of different questions is likely to make the situation even more convoluted. So I am sticking with the people who actually have knowledge about what is happening and several plans in the works - the Majin. It is my best chance to talk with Dei about all she had seen with the All-Glimpse, meet Ota and discuss her plan in depth, maybe even improve upon it. Bring Esu with his visionary ideas to the same table with a reborn Baf/Xian and have Kashtanka nearby to shoot down stupid ideas even better now that she inhabits a template created for this. I am even going to risk meeting Rhucuphre just to get her point of view and dig for insights with All-Glimpse.There were a lot of heroes who saved the world in the past and everything keeps getting worse. I am going to focus on unifying everything to see a big picture and enabling those with proper tools for it to take action. Sure, I am not the best fighter, but I can be Tattletele to Ota's Taylor and this time we will have the support of all remaining Majin behind us.
>>96600687I can't find the reddit post anymore but Tank mentioned most think he was either another Tuzik or he was a master of stealth focused on secretly protecting the world from darker fates.
>>96597552Why is Old Throne such a jobbers? Have mechas, savescumming gaming chair, and still getting wrecked all their history. In fact, if you look closer on things they "famously" for, is Warmachinas, which they don't know shit about, and "we keeping muh promises, look how cool we are". Both of these things dwarfs do much better, by the way. In the end, muddish is just discount dwarfs that need real deals to teach them how to do shit.Only nation on Doria that is worse than them is Burger Kingdom, can't even wipe their own asses without Outsiders help, and is in constant search for the next sugar daddy/mommy.
>>96600742>choosing your Letter of the DamnedIllegal-sama...
>>96600754They don't have a future.
>>96600755It doesn't really change much, I mainly took it to have an excuse for an angelic looking Majin.
>>96600754Well if we theorize that the elder gods are constantly trying to wipe them out they are doing quite well at surviving
>>96600754(((fate))) conspiring to end the enemies of the elder godssame reason why they played Vtorusha and the TRVE DRAGONS against each othersame reason why they used Charlie to nuke the elves
>>96600770Why would the Elder Gods want that? They're not ageless. >>96600775The elder gods don't seem to want to avoid a second war of heaven and earth tho? Obviously Savmak and the people living in the world don't want it to happen again but I don't think we've seen anything about the Elder Gods caring one way or the other.
>>96600769Khier is pretty far down, just because the word means "above" it doesn't mean you aren't getting demonic features. Looking like an angel isn't a demonic feature.
Zelo is suprisingly far up but Xet still looks pretty demony now dont he?
Fellas whats the command to roll dice here again
>>96600795Pretty sure they're using the fact that it's connected to Empyreans to flavor it.>>96600803He didn't invest in Ethereal Beauty
>>96600810You have to email the admin for a dice code.
>>96600810dice+(#)d(#)
Rolled 35 (1d45)>>96597552
Rolled 40 (1d45)Alright rolling for majin letter on an Ust build
>>96600795>Looking like an angel isn't a demonic feature.It can be argued that it is the oldest demonic feature. Either way, Tank mentioned that it is a tendency, not a hard rule. You can be an abomination with Az or a normal with Izhitsa, it is just unlikely. I headcannon it as Ethereal Beauty and Khier making normally demonic traits manifest like a slightly creepy knock-off Empyrean.
>>96597552>0 people took siblingA little surprising since I'm pretty sure people did it during the first tide.
>>96600837Huh, the split in half letter, interestingCloning? Not really much less to go off of other than the death slot effect
>>96600742Nice build.That "majin" looks more like an empyrean though.
>>96600793Might want to get rid of the chair it's quite annoying really having time reset by some guy constantly delaying the collective ascension, the gods are quite impatient and they experience all the throne timeliness, probably to stop another Vtorusha resurrection too, don't want another war of heaven and earth
>>96600742Your build reminds me of Yphont. Your humility in your approach will take you far but you're expecting too much if you think you can unify or save everything in a world designed to generate conflict for meaning.
>>96600837I still think that the rolling should only go up to Yat. Iotated letters are simple letters with a Yee attached and unknown meanings and the final four are secret letters that only exist as possible answers to the plot.
>>96600687>The Third Outsider is mysterious. Many people probably wrack their heads searching for clues and making different theories. Most agree that given the examples of all other Outsiders where even Tuzik was somewhat known and lived for a while, the Third couldn't have died early and must have been an active figure, and the fact that they can't find him anyway must relate to his specialities and powers.>Therefore, in the Exarchate they venerate the Third Seat as The Unknown Outsider, master of stealth, secrets and mysteries. Sometimes they attribute various strange happenings throughout history to him. The world is the way it is partially because the Third Outsider worked in the shadows to prevent the darker fates from coming to pass. In a way, they're right.
>>96600871It all exist in a drunk YMRD timeliness that she just resets when she gets sober
Rolled 16 (1d34)>>96600871Okay bet(i will take any excuse to reroll)
Rolled 13 (1d34)>>96600871>Free rerollThanks anon
>>96600895Nash, hm"Our", gift sharing? A bit confusing, these be brainlet hours
>>96600877Rhucuphre was the Third Seat all along btw.
>>96600867I have some faith in Ota's plan. Maybe healing the gods by restoring the Godscript will allow them to do better. If it doesn't work this way, Aat/Erginter also had an idea on how to rearrange things. Provided our plan is good enough, we may even have a chance to convince Charlotte to switch tracks. She is clearly very unhappy with her position, but sees it as the only way left with no real alternative. Reaching out to her for an academic discussion might be a little tricky though.
Rolled 33 (1d34)Give momma Aes a highroll on her kids letter YRMRD
>>96600939What THE FUCK is Yer
>>96600939Why even roll if you do it like this? Just pick whatever.
>>96600907fun fact, I was half planning on taking my Majin letter as my death letter and try to replicate Yphonts trick. Definitely not doing it now.
>>96600945It satisfies the gacha player within me
Rolled 21 (1d45)imagine getting a majin letter that bricks your build, like Fot
>>96600944Yer' not Yer. Yer' death is about fear so you can make it about illusions, horror, paranoia or any other friendly thing like that, it's the only thing we have to go on about it.
>>96600944>>96600973It's Truth.
>>96600947>That descriptionSure, let me just ignore you trying to bribe me into picking Khier for the your cute tsundere daughter Charlie.
>>96600967I'm 100% sure that there are Az Majins who are perfectly fine. He's just unlucky with his specific spell.
>>96600992Huh wait,11 = Az Az = Yee (I + I = And)22 = Buki Buki = Ouk (God + God = Learning)33 = Vedi Vedi = Yer' (Know + Know = Truth)44 = Glagoli Glagoli = Theta (Act + Act = Vulgar)I wonder if you can do this for all the letters.
>>96600635How am I supposed to make my final optimized build if he change the meta with each update?
>>96601013It's a Charlie plot to prevent your old build from being valid
>>96600854We had better paths to optimization this round.
>>96601028>Charlie flipping the board in the metaworld when she loses and branding your strategy as illegalNTA but I can see it.
>>96600854not worth -1AP
>>96601044>beat her>she resets>beat her in a new version>she resets>repeat until enough cycles have passed and I ascendCharles seething
>>96601068Thoroughbreeding is just the better version at the same cost, we'll I guess the sibling has the advantage of being deathsloted
>>96601078>>96601044At this rate you'll ascend together. All according to plan.
Rolled 9 (1d34)>>96600947
>>96601088The actual method to trigger Izhitsa she resets an infinite amount of time and has accumulated so much meaning she just ascends and gtfo
>>96601088>it was all [JNPL] shipping outsiders so hard it killed her
>>96601088Are we unironically JNPL's favorite ship?
>>96601115Why else would she include Mada into the selection? It all makes sense.
>>96601115She needs her outsider x outsider ships, vtorusha x One failed, Erginter x Aat failed got to try, Charlie x 11th
>>96600854I did (Izeth)
>>96601123But Mada is a Southlander?
>>96600854Do you really "create another character" from 0 to be your sibling, one random brother/sister? Not just take one of the already made ones?
>>96601132Yphont and Xian were definitely a thing.
>>96601132>Erginter x AatActually Yphont probably had something for Xian, then Erginter fucked it up, then fucked the rebound ship Erginter x Xian.
>>96601136She is also the most ardent believer into Charlie's redemption and she tries to unduct you into this.
>>96601140She assigned him the kill yourself letterTragic ship, approved
>>96601145Yphont died pure. When I rez her she'll be a blushing virgin.
>>96601140It was like those romance Mangas where you get 100 chapters until the handholding scene, got interrupted by Erginter before it reached the good part
>>96601136Eros will succeed tho. Trust.
Tankista is turning all of us into shippers...
>>96601152Her soul's already gone bro, it's reincarnated.
>>96601152>wifebeater father>XianCHAD nearby>fuck ton of companionsIt's already over.
>>96601152Fake, gonna be a complete role reversal where your blushing virgin ass gets dominated by an ancient elf mommy
>>96601148Doesn't matter, 0w0 into BNC, not BSC
>>96601159Tun had created a way to return even after that. Beat it out of him. Do it for her!
you didn't untimeskip Charlie so that you would have a chance to redeem her?ngmi
>>96601189>he needs untimeskip to redeem Charliengmi
>>96601189The canon timeline
>>96601132All those women are insane, it was never going to work.
>>96601187Tun is a pretty good gift to Dei all things considered.
Sir? Your 11th x Keter ship?
Anons you need to stop daydreaming about 0^0 and focus. JNPL's fetish is good and all, but it WILL get you killed. Everyone is easier to romance. Don't ruin your second life for pussy.
>>96601198Is this JNPLs true kink?
>>9660120212th will fix it by picking 11th and 10th as Father and Mother options.
>>96601202I like Keter as "older sister who failed college". It's also lacking that "Hero x Overlord" spice, and my enemies to lovers trope.
I am already destined for 12samaIf I date charlie it would inevitabley turn 12 into a ntr homewrecker, which I don't want to do
>>96601218>Charlie being cucked>Charlie failing at love for the third time>Charlie being bullied by the System againIt will restart the whole Usurper plotline.
>>96601189What do you mean by "redeem"?
>>96601217Yes. Good thing the other god is shipping you with best girl Omega, that way you also won't die at 80 years of age.
>>96601217Always has been.
JNPL doesn't want you to pick Nilmatrix because she's worried you'll fall for Nil instead of Charlotte.
>>96601217Of course, suffering brings character, true love is a cursed option to fulfill her toxic relationship kink
>>96601247I'm already convinced Nilmatrix is just a semi-autonomous avatar of Charlotte, both ships are valids.
Cutest OR girl is Apantoxia.
Pantorai was a shota.
After Dobrava, which mentors/companions have the highest IQs?
>>96600563Tankista's preview of next update had Aat Father pick having an option to have Dei as your sibling so you will always have that going for you. You can also add Adoption to replace a non-existent curse father with an actual one. Having it be majin like Pir or One would probably help you a lot.Although I would still only pick Thonodreth as Dark Elf mother since she is more into majins, knows Dei well and generally doesn't care about her people's culture and traditions.
>>96601240>best girl OmegaThe true heir for Empire of Light and Dark.
>>96601280Very true male drakonids are smaller than female
The Savmak bloodline must be restored to the head of the Exarchate.
>>96601279>Cutest OR girl is Paxxia.FTFYMy Little Tyrant Can't Be This Cute.
>Anons are now talking about their waifus in the voidIt's never been so overNo thoughts, no plan, no self-shipping
>>96601328No one likes Paxxia.
>>96601335>self-shippingHow could everyone forget the greatest ship put Iotated Greater Yus on yourself and then just ship the two fragmented versions of yourself
>>96601315Not always. Just look at Paxxia.
>>96601339You didn't think that when she was riding you.
>>96601362It was rape.
>>96601362Never happened
>>96601296But anon, think about that juicy Warmachine Mounting
>>96601339>Shit tasteMany such cases.
>>96601382>WarmachinaJobber tier
>>96601240>that way you also won't die at 80 years of age.This myth already been debunked, get new material.
>ITT: JNPL samefagging
>>96601360Which means that Pantorai is gonna be even shorter for it to be inherited by Paxxia
>>96597552>>96601010Just some guessing after realizing that the Yee 11th logic could work for other letters.Yer = Death-by-Exile, Vedi Az = Know SelfPretty clear connection. Yery = Death-by-Self Destruction, Vedi Buki = Know God Less clear. When Buki can also stand for "alphabet", and the Godscript is practically nothing but an alphabet, maybe it's Know Script? Inevitable something somethings.Yer' = Death-by-Fear, Vedi Vedi = Know Know I know that I know nothing. Knowing what you know means you also know what you don't know, or something like that?Lesser Yus = Death-by-Dissociation?, Vedi Zelo = Know VerySimilar to Yer. Greater Yus = Death-by-Masking?, Vedi Zemlya = Know WorldWhile Zemlya is very material, it's also specifically the letter that gets you to write your Past into your Present, so I'll argue that it's supposed to be Know Story.Xi = Death-by-AnotherWorld, Glagoli Buki = Act GodAct of God. Vis Major. Death by getting written into another story? SpookyPsi = Death-by-Afterlife?, Glagoli Vedi = Act KnowI don't know, but if Pokoy's Az Zelo = I Very, about Meaning being dictated by what (You) are, Psi denies Pokoy by saying that Meaning is dictated by what (You) know?I will point out that besides [YMRD]'s Reset button, all three of [CHRL]'s letters are suspiciously in Greek. Theta = Death-by-?Dream?, Glagoli Glagoli = Act ActActing for acting's sake denies Shta, is SRTR's whole schtick, Continuity nodback. Izhitsa = Death-by-???, Glagoli Dobro = Act WorthIzhitsa can only fire when someone with Deus Ex Machina sees infinite people to mark it all down at once, or when nothing sees something (1/0). Maybe it's choice? ----We can also reverse this logic, guess what the 0th is supposed to be.Izhe = Which, Az X = Self ...Slovo = Word, Buki X = Alphabet ...Shta = Purpose, Vedi X = Know ...Iotated Lesser Yus = ???, Glagoli = Act ...Some sort of Reality ensues? Something in the natural, in reading, in integrated knowledge?
>>96601424No it doesn’t
>>96601107>She had to die just so all of her Outsider x Outsider fanfics can be writtenI understand her so much bwos
>>96601424>Pantorai manlet confirmed.What's why he never exit draconic form.
These threads reek of ESL.
>>96601433Erginter was born from a true dragon and doesn't look small on her image so all of the Shota genes must be coming from Pantorai
>>96601430Oh and also,>Understanding of the alphabet among the educated townsfolk ends here.That has to be connected to why, besides [YMRD]'s cheat, the System's understanding of the Script ends specifically at the 44th letter right? There's no other reason for it to end there when Dobro is right there and obviously way more reasonable to be the end of common knowledge when everyone stamps it around.
>>96601452Ain’t no way around it
what happened to this nigga
>>96600000>>96599999Goku... there is something you should understand about your upcoming fight against Nilmatrix...
>>96601430>We can also reverse this logic, guess what the 0th is supposed to be.I always thought it was the God-Script version of Tsifra. Strip everything, even God from the equation, and that's what you get - nothingness.
>>96600939> Maria-of-Archaia(iotated lesser Yus)Names are hard> Patron: YRMD> Outer Tide: Yes> Parents:Aes- Greater YusBarbos- On, Zhivete> Languages:BenewhisperLate Thulean Quietened- Simplified Duergar> Race:Majin(Yer')/Beastfolk Hybrid> Location:Mamet Interior(+1 free untimeskip, +1 free dice fudge)> Inborn gifts:Inherited- Caster Intuition, Cognitive Speed, Attentiveness, Blazing Seal, Azure WreathGrim outlook x 2Mitigating Grip × 2IntelligenceSpiritual feelSeraphic WingsWisdom> Mentors:Reks- Cherv’ Yee, Untimeskip, Wild and WilderPatrikeyevna- Iotated Yest’, on a full stomach, dice fudged into companionDryndedh-from-Agartha- Zelo, Dice fudge, Remember about death> Companions:Zhuchka- Her'v, Just a NightmarePolkan- Yer’, Hidden Amidst the CloudsSu'uq- tutored in BenewhisperWhew, first time I did a build that had mentors and companions, man it's hard to decide death slots.Should I do anything with my 14 leftover destiny points? Don’t really know what to do with emAnyway this build is probably a bit scuffed, but the idea is to be really good at breaking through ecumene forts with being raised by Aes for siege magic and Patrikeyevna to just shoot through the damn things with a grim outlooked greatbow made from monster partsDryndedh-from-Agartha is there to teach the ins and outs of being a dark night, cause that shit can get nasty yoI took iotated lesser Yus bc splitting into majin and beastfolk halves sounds metal as fuck, and its not really gon a affect things much gift wise since I have grim outlook to help cover the split via cursed items....Almost forgot the Yer letter, uh, idk it replicates her death letter with an illusion on her target that digs up all their worst fears?
>>96601572How bad does this build job anons
>>96601572...Graymond?
>>96601572>....Almost forgot the Yer letter, uh, idk it replicates her death letter with an illusion on her target that digs up all their worst fears?Draw strength from fear around you.Weaker inverse version of Icon of Icons.
>>96601611Shit how you find out it was me
How big should a dragon girl’s horns be relative to her body?
>>96601658one head length
>>96601572No Pukluxun?>>96601593It's fine at being both Siege Witch and Cursed Knight, but I don't see any big unconventional trick you could do that would stop Charlie from fucking you over. My advice is just picking up a Uruk encounter slot with your leftover language slot, and then, with some malady, get your Grip or Outlook Auto'd.
Rolled 16 (1d45)rollan for... stuff
>>96601571Hm. All-Glimpse?
>>96601626I'm in your walls?
>>966016771. Ability to share one blessing, gifts or specific power with people closely connected to you.2. Ability to nurture, care, heal and light innate empathic understanding of others.3. Ability to at least partially understand and quickly learn any language, so long as it is continually spoken in your vicinity.4. Ability to resist any and all external factors affecting one's mind.5. Ability to innate sense Meaning for self in all things and this always know how to stay true to self and own goals and ideas.
>>96601691I'm not sure. A-G is characterized by reading the God-Script, so it probably wouldn't be able to decipher something above it. Something the reading haxx can't conceptualize.For that same reason it can't be Touch oER (nothing to rust) or Deathless Grasp (nothing to revive).My best guess it's that the 0th letter (if it exists) is what make all the possibilities (Dreams) into something concrete (Reality), the same Tsifra is transforming God-Script.
>>96601556Looks like she is a culprit behind majin existing. This is the one who fucked up the setting, not Outsiders.
>>96601766Fucking elves...
>>96601776charlie did nothing wrong
Elves are cute
>>96601788Then why did you take none in your build? Rhucy doesn't count
>>96601788"Elves are cute" factoid actually just a statistical error. The average elf is horrific and usually morally bankrupt. Rhucuphre, who has lived for 1000 years and is infinitely Qt, is an outlier and should not have been counted.
Vtorusha pulled two letters from the heaven. One is her Multiocular O and the other is Iotated Yat'.Iotated Yat' was the unique gimmick of original Xian which allowed him to create majins.By Design hints that Eternal Curse is butchered attempt at Everlasting.I am fairly certain Ota is correct and original Xian was aiming for his own type of false ascension using dream manipulations and fake godhood.
>>96601809>>96601816>"Rhucy doesn't count"Stop simping.
>>96601825this is the idea behind my build (I'm writing it right now)But it was 0^0 that pulled Iotated Yat. She skipped her death letter and didn't want it coming back to bite her.
>>96601825Charlotte pulled out Iotated Yat', it's her death letter.
Elves are cuteMajin are cuteDrakonids are cuteHumans are cute
>>96601809I took several and True Loved Ciliren.
>>96601825Iotated Yat still existed in the Godscript after Vtorusha. The Iotated letters hadn't been discovered yet, according to one of Yphont mentors and more importantly, Charlie took it as one of her letters. She was the one who got rid of it somehow, probably to stop it from triggering after her ascension.
>>96601845I rate this post 33% true. Do not question my numbers.
>>96601832>Magician without parallel (in cuteness (silent))I am merely declaring truths. This isn't any form of simping at all. No subjectivity, only objectivity.
>>96601845100% true
>>96601673> No Pukxulun?I was perhaps a bit tunnel visioned on making the most out of Bilingual Benewhisper>t's fine at being both Siege Witch and Cursed Knight, but I don't see any big unconventional trick you could do that would stop Charlie from fucking you over. My advice is just picking up a Uruk encounter slot with your leftover language slot, and then, with some malady, get your Grip or Outlook Auto'dHm, I could chop off the legs and get wereplague I suppose. Got wings to compensate a little for that, then I can get both Pukxulun, Ante on Grim outlook, and 1 ancestry point....Which I could use to get another companion slot and fight a troll to get the points I'd need for memory retention, neat!>>96601572Adding to gifts section: Wereplague, Missed Shape: Legs x 2, Autoantecedent: Grimm OutlookMentor: Pukxulun(Ouk), Nothing Ever HappensEncounter: A bridge, a troll, a tollalso forgot the youth bits, woopsMartial training, Power Testing, Parental Support, Journey of the self
Use Untimeskip, True Love and By Design on Rhucy or you are coward.
Wait charlie had multiple kids didnt she? I know omega is one of them but who's the other? An Aureole?
>>96602068I believe it was the guy that started the empire. That should be how they got Icon of Icons, since it's a gift that runs in Mithra's bloodline and only Charlie and her mother should have had it at that time.
>>96602110AhCharlie likes her men hardworking and humble, cute
>>96602068Her first boyfriend was her companion from her build, Avgustin (Augustus) Aureole. He left her (probably when she went psycho and evil) and took their son Konstantin with him, who went and founded the Empire.
>>96602153Neat!
Between Stoyan and Fot, who is the worst father?
>>96602217Lu’ut
>>96602068I'm pretty sure there was a picture with the empire royal line somewhere with but I can't find it in the doc.
>>96600353nobody is going to care about build #512218, so why bother posting it?
>>96602217Fot is based.
>>96602217If mother is level-headed and have money, Fot is okay.Stoyan will be far worse father in most cases.But >>96602240 is correct. Lu’ut is the worst possible father you can get. And that including Dice Fudge Adoption.
>>96602217Fot is a well-meaning guy. He has good advice, and clearly values you as his child. A little insanity doesn't make you a bad father, necessarily.
>>96602217Fot is just strict, Stoyan is a genuine deadbeat who will only care when he thinks he can turn you into a miniature version of him.
>>96602265I, as the build rating person will be forced to read itSo post it if it's good
>>96602324Did the ratings got updated?
>>96602395No, but I willEventually
>>96602324ok finebut I'm reposting it for v3
>>96597552 1/2I have unspent points I didn't bother spending because I fucked up my math halfway through the build and didn't know what to spend them on after I figured it out. Rate my autoantecedence. Vad(Vedi Az Dobro)malePatron: JNPLReincarnation: Sibling, Extra Mentor, Untimeskipx3, True Lovex2(Jarnigit, Maou), Outer TideMother: Phershepa-From-ErebusFather: AatRace: MajinLanguages: Late Thulean, GreenspeechTuturored: Jdan(Greenspeech), Brastat(Greenspeech)Location: Principality of Stygia, StygiaGifts: Longevity, Misalliance(Devout Signature, Crooked Caress x1, Look of Chaos x1), Warmachina Mounting, Intelligence, Wisdom, Cognitive Speed, Daemonhost, Attentiveness, Spirit Tap x, Autoantecedence: Removes the need for knowledge of the envisioned magical creature and allows all magical creatures to be valid options, Ethereal Beauty, Letter of the Damned: Kako-Increases the modulability of created Majin templates and allows the effect of certain inborn gifts and techniques to be applied on the template before the Majin is spawned—things such as Spirit Tap, Undead creation, an Empyrean equivalent, and similar things. If the gift or technique would normally have a time limit for its effects, it's negated here as the change is made part of the Majin's template.Mentors: Ielziaseh-From-Erebus, Maou, JdanCompanions: Brastat, Jarnigit>Encounters A Bridge, A Toll, A TrollGetaway Warmachina Rider(Brastat)Respawning Point(Jarnigit, Yen's template)Playing Traitors(Ielziaseh)In My Machine Spirit(Jdan)By Design(Maou)>DeathsMe - VediPhershepa - PokoyIelziaseh - Shta, YeeJdan - Yat, YeeJarnigit - Slovo, YeeBrastat - Lesser Yus>YouthProfane LoreNatural PhilosophyTravelingTreasure Hunting>Quest'Humilitas'Patienta
>>96602466 2/2Here's my sister too, this is her roll >>96601090>SiblingName: Pom(Pokoy On Myslete)Personality: I'll leave it up to fate. I'll love her regardlessFemaleAge(At my birth): -3Gifts: Warmachina Mounting, Daemonhost, Intelligence, Wisdom, Cognitive Speed, Devout Signature, Crooked Caress x1, Look of Chaos x1, Letter of the Damned: Zemlya-I'll leave it up to fateDeath: Greater Yus, ZhiveteI plan to create an organization to rival Pandaemonium and make my own nation in Tsoshu. I'll create Majin/Empyrean and Majin/Asura hybrids to infiltrate the Ecumene and undermine it, helping other Outsiders in the process, since I don't have a major plot to take out Charlie with this build. Since I'm going to be traveling around a lot, I'll probably try to get Thaumiel and Dei to take Pom as their apprentice, as well as teach her what I know.
>>96602046I don't care about Rhucuphre. Why would I waste my True Love on her?
>>96602265People have responded to builds in this very thread.Post that build right now, or get your self-loathing ass back to mediocre-artist twitter.
>>96602473>Cute younger sister>Xian fatherI hope it works out better for you.
>>96602480but then it'll be stale for v3 and I'll have to abandon my build
>>96602506There are no true dragon equivalents, and I gave her an easy death letter with Zhivete. She'll be fine, probably. If she's not, then I'm making Eternal Curse v2 and giving it to everyone.
The v3 tide will save us
I'm a prophet and I'm making a prediction that v3 will have way more incest builds than v1 and v2.
>>96602507Who cares, do a new build for V3. Everyone did new builds for V2 anyway.
>>96602577It's not hard to predict given the Siblings addition.Though I wonder if Tankista will patch the True Love on Siblings for V3.
>>96602507I promise not to remember it once v3 drops, so it'll be new to me again
When is v3 coming? A few weeks, or a few years?
>>96602507Did you know that you can update old builds? I do it all the time.Or make a new one then. You can do that too.Or secret third thing, you can just have an outdated build. Updates don't delete them from the internet.Might as well only play Tok CYOAs if you live in fear of new content.>>96602473It's nice to see a build with a sibling.>Greater Yus and ZhiveteThe non-death death, and still absolving it. What a good older brother.
>>96602592>V1 - 2022>V2 - 2025>V3 - 2028?Years.
>>96602568This is just more lambs to the slaughter.
>>96602595>Or secret third thing, you can just have an outdated build. Updates don't delete them from the internet.I will call him illegal until he deletes the build or update it to the new norms.
>>96602258It's in the excel.
>>96602592We don't know how much progress on it Tankista's already made so it's either a few years or a few weeks with no in-between. He might want to finish LOTM before it so we don't know.>>96602597v2 was him trying to add double the content, as well as add a new section along with all the new bonus pages. I don't think he's going to do the same with v3 so it should come out faster. Depending on whether or not he wants to finish LOTM before working on it.
>>96602595>>Greater Yus and ZhiveteI feel like that could backfire pretty easilyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgnFmEUJRxk
>>96602563Once the letter’s resolved, she’s open for any fun character development opportunities the gods want to give the two of you.Remember, suffering builds character.
>>96602466Feels like the spirit tap and spell combination is too strong to be honest. Tankista had to clarify that he thought permanent Spirit Tap was way too strong for even Autoantecedence and here you are applying that to created Majin. Well, that's what I think at least but the idea seems solid outside that.
>>96602636Feel like part of that was because you can just change what you've turned someone into with another touch and can do it to anyone aside from yourself.
>>96602604Imagine the thrice returned.>open your eyes>you have to do it again>AGAIN
>>96602604They will be just fine.
>>96602621He's already said it'll be after LOTM and at least one other CYOA, he even explicitly stated that it'd be years when giving the teasers and talking about that conversation which existed for 10 seconds before being removed. Does the guy who saw it remember anything other than it being SRTR (probably) mocking someone.
>>96602712Fetched it from the archive for you.
>>96602068bro is gonna die before he makes a new cyoa
>>96602740bwo...
>>96602740He also posted a preview sibling option.
>>96602740anon...
>>96602740.....
>>96602757SRTR truely is the worst of the eldar godsThe "I'd offer you advice" implies to me that she normally tries to give cryptic clues on the deaths to fuck with peopleProbably mocked charlie for not figuring one of them out
>>96602769You would do the same thing.
>>96602749So if you use true love on them, does it apply to the entire group?
>>96602769There's a reason that "may you live in interesting times" is a curse lol
>>96602757Majins, not even once
>>96602769>The "I'd offer you advice" implies to me that she normally tries to give cryptic clues on the deaths to fuck with peopleTankista said she would normally give decent advices on how to dodge most of them or at least try to.
>>96602777I considered asking this when it was posted, but he seemed tiredI would guess that it does
>>96602796Charliefags in shambles, finding out that she didn't make anything easier for us.
>>96602757v3 will be ???'s time to shine.
>>96602749Looking forward to a Total Majin Death build for V3
>>96602818>Keter Trick is patched>You can get free Darina/Dei/Dirk??? will be ignored like usual.
Tankista please finish your LoTM cyoa
>>96602757>Twin options can also share the same single letter in their death slotsI, Anon the prophet, offer another prediction. Most builds not made around predetermined siblings will have their siblings be twins.
>>96602757Do you think baf could be considered a sibling if you take Dei? Aat's sister shares the same level of relation.
>>96602846Having a younger sibling mostly guarantees that your parents survive longer.
>>96602860Probably, but she's a non-character in the CYOA so nothing changes.
>>96602585>I wonder if Tankista will patch the True Love on Siblings for V3.Probably not, if he does then it means Iakowe builds can't true love Omega
>>96602757>Twin options can also share the same single letter in their death slotsIf this applies to the 11th Iotated Greater Yus might finally be worth picking.
>>96602870I don't think that will stop him.
>>96602860This implies that Daemonhost builds are the fathers/mothers of all Majin they create
>>96602881It should, if he knows what's good for him.
>>96602900They are though? This also implies being adopted by maou means that Esu is your brother.
>>96602839Keter was still popular as a mentor in V1, and dice fudged mentor adoption is still basically a free mentor slot + a free never alone. She'll be picked, just not as much as now where she's worth +22 DP. Thaumiel too.
>>96602757If Extra Relation work like things work currently, this is essentially "free" Malice without Charlie.
>>96602585Why would he? It's not an unintended interaction, it's specifically called out as allowed. You can be a degen if you want, JNPL won't stop you.
>>96602860Dei was directly spawned by Aat, not by Xian and it is implied that she was sort of his favorite 'daughter'.By contrast Dei considers all her spawnings as tools rather than children so none of them would be considered for the perk.
>have a perfectly fine containment general called /mcyoag/>multiplayerfags still shit /cyoag/ up with outerslop spam, hijacking every other thread OP, spamming posts listing all their ERP buttbuddies builds (often samefagged and/of made with chatgpt) and ruining the thread cultureOuter sloppers really think their shit doesn't stink so they don't have to go to /mcyoag/
>>96602939I'm not talking about Dei, I'm referring to how Aat himself had a sister Bal (Who he considered as such) created by Xian.
>>96602860Aat and Baf were both "adopted" by Xian in addition to being his spawn, and they were both spawned using his unique "give my spawn daemonhost" ability. They're special cases. The normal demon lord/spawn relationship isn't a parent/child bond, though.
>>96602948You are tok
>>96602757Dirk and Dei as free siblings seems kinda bonkers
tok is cranky
>>96602949Aat parent section was special since he was spawned directly from Xian, that's why his sibling also had to be spawned at the same time since they were twins.Dei doesn't consider her spawnings her daughters so no reason for her mass produced princesses to count.
>>96602958Dirk won't have his super fated-mentorship power unless he's actually your mentor, so he's just a strong all-glimpse user who is dying. Dei sibling will be nuts tho yea.
>>96602958No guarantee you'll get their mentorship stuff, and for Dei, you're not inheriting spirit tap and All-Glimpse from her.
>>96602769SRTR has never done anything wrong. She is the best.
>>96602971>Dei doesn't consider her spawnings her daughters so no reason for her mass produced princesses to count.Forcing Dei to recognize Baf after Baf eats Erginter's corpse.
>>96602973>>96602976Isn't Dirk still some kind of super powerful Royal still? Same for Dei, they seem good even without mentorship or giving inheritance gifts. Specially considering they're free.
>>96602757>SeminarOh God, she's that freaky even for her sibling?
>>96602973>Dei sibling will be nuts tho yea.>Aat builds will also overlap with Dei mom buildsTime for OR social distancing edition
>>96602991I wanted to ask Tankista whenever he came around just how unique Baf was to be chosen by the system. Since she's mass produced it would stand to reason that all the princesses share Fiert and have the same or similar abilities. With that in mind, are Baf ideals unique enough for her to be chosen by the system or was she just one of any random one among her sisters who could be picked? The former would be certainly a lot more interesting if she's not easily replaceable.
>>96603010There aren't many Aat nor Dei builds from what I saw. But now that you mention it there will indeed be more overlap because of those sibling freebies.
>>96603010Shrimply make siblings not count for overlap purposes (This should also apply to mentors but /cyoag/ isn't ready for that discussion)
>>96603005If you're talking about Geminara then it can easily be platonic if you're siblings.
>>96603022The Encounters system messes with how long a Mentor stays with a build too much that it's probably for the best.
>>96603022>(This should also apply to mentors but /cyoag/ isn't ready for that discussion)The only overlaps that matter as far as I'm concerned are Death letter overlaps. But it should be fine if you have matching death letters.
>>96603022>If you overlap in Father, Mother and Siblings only, you are now the other Tider brotherKino, make it happen
>>96603034Better yet, as long as the builds don't contradict each other, then it should be fine to have some overlap.
>>96603040>New tide meta is Zwa+Fot parents for the entire tide with half tiders going Daemonhost Majins and the other half going Human Icon of Icons
>>96603040Would you still need to pay for the perk?
>>96603022>This should also apply to mentors but /cyoag/ isn't ready for that discussionThis is really stupid, you are basically forcing people to cut their mentors time short and lose possible companions because someone else took them. It can also fuck up other perks and some death letters. Just accept that you cannot mix and be done with it.
>>96603081Given that those other siblings are free, and you don't pay for Outer Tide, I'd say no.
>>96603022With mentors it's iffy, because you can turn them into companions with Dice Fudge and special Encounters.
>>96603102>Still requiring a slot
>>96603111Just make only the final state be considered (If they become a companion then they exclude like a companion).
>>96603113Isn't that a Death Slot that he's referring to? Or are siblings automatically companions?
>>96603128Siblings don't take companion slots, but are counted as companions.
>>96603123That could work, but what about the Death Runes? Randomized among those who chose it? The "best one" applies? And the added letters?
>>96603031>>96603034>>96603090The clear solution is to just merge one Hero Party to another until you end up with the greatest guild in all of history
>>96603155I'd say this >>96603057If death slots match then it's fine, if they contradict then kick them into another world
>>96603143Then what the fuck does he means by "still takes a slot"?
>>96603170Probably death slot unless the predetermined siblings are being treated differently
>>96603170>>96603177It is more likely that sibling option will go up in cost and just give you sibling slot in which you put either predetermined characters you get from parent choice, pick from some kids your parents can adopt or design a new one.
>>96603206I believe we'll get one or two free sibling slots, some 0 cost siblings, some non 0 costs, and and a "extra sibling" option, like extra mentor/companion. I'm not sure if the sibling perk is gonna actually increase I cost since it doesn't seem that strong to begin with, he might just remove it altogether If we do get free slots.
>>96602757>Pick from the list on the next page to get your family to adopt them>Paxxia is first on the listLol, adopt the 91 year old. I hope it's actually possible, even if she'll probably only be there to show what your childhood will be like being raised by her.
>>96603227There won't be free sibling slots since they were never considered by the system in the first place, if that were the case every other outsider would get them. You probably have to buy the perk for each slot, as if it were buying a mentor or companion. Siblings are much stronger than what people give them credit for since they inherit the same gifts and titles you do.
>Keter Dice Fudged into Adoption>with Adopted SIbling option taken twice>11th>Immaculate conception sibling from Aat>Erginter's and Pantorai's kid as another sibling>Savmak Never AloneThe build is starting to take shape
>>96603019Dei is the single most popular mom and Aat is second only to Unnotable One in popularity for dads. Wtf are you talking about.
>>96603255I'm not sure you can chose your siblings parents.
>>96603244>Siblings are much stronger than what people give them credit for since they inherit the same gifts and titles you do.Most people probably want to add something new to their build instead of doubling down on whatever they inherited. They also don't get the rest of your gifts and whatever you got from your mentor too so they're stuck with a lesser version of whatever your build is. That can still be strong but it's adding nothing unique.
>>96603273Adopted Sibling tells you that you can pick two different parents
>>96603260Did anyone post some chart with character pick rate in some thread? I wanna see it.
Pick Majin with Iotated Lesser Yus as your death letter. Make Dei respawn you as a remembrance, and split your soul in the process (probably).wah lah, double the gifts, double the power
>>96603312It's in the rentry, look for pick countDon't think it's been updated
No one cares about Beastfolk.
>>96603334They do because Keter is (half) one
>>96603295You can get a free sibling that's a strong companion with a lesser version of your powers by paying the measly cost of 1 AP if it doesn't change later. Stop being miserly and pay the cost for the benefits.
>>96603334I'd care if Zhuchka wasn't such a human cocksucker, right now I have care because Keter and ??? are half beastfolk
>>96603344All Outsiders are truly humans at heart
>>96603383>Anon will look at the false ascendant True Outsider Solipsist flying on their demonic/drakonic wings and say "There goes a true human"
>>96603334Archaia is cool. It's the best place to be if you want a mage-cult dedicated to you, and mage-cults are cool.Kita has nothing but Wine is thicker than Water going for it, though.
>>96603375>beastfolk>not a human cocksuckerWhat's the point?
>>96603334Because they are boring human+ instead interesting anthros.
>Laika was smart enough to purge Benewhisper from her memory, which actually makes her better as a mother choice
>>96603383I'm pretty sure Erginter is a subhuman
>>96603411Why would she have Benewhisper? She's from Seasmeet, not Archaia.
>>96603405The DKMDR has a ready made mage cults for you to slot into, and you can easily make a mage cult in the Exarchate if you try and win the civil war.
>>96603412She's just from the hood.
>>96603411Why would it be good if a parent doesn't know a language, when you can sell the language anyway?
>>96603424It's one of the languages that only give you something if you don't inherit it
>>96603437Oh right, I forgot about those things.
>>96603383It's stated in multiple places that your body changes how you think, and several playable races feel that strongly. Dragons are prideful, Majin are influenced by their Letter, Beastfolk are are pack animals, etc. Outsiders are in a good position to be exceptions to the rule, but the success rate on that is < 50%. Katya and Tuzik both valued their relationships highly, and Erginter was the picture of Drakonic pride.
>>96603437Aside: I really hate this mechanic. Quieting the majority of your languages to buy ones that actually give bonuses shouldn't be the meta.
Everyone cares about Majin.
>>96603470>Everyone wants Daemonhostftfy
>>96603417Existing mage cult honestly isn't that great. It has its own traditions and ideologies that are hard to change, when the whole appeal of mage-cults is that they're your religion and your magic to shape. Exarchate is the same way; you can slot in as an Outsider-God if you flatter their pride, but good luck if you don't.
>>96603468Yes it's really stupid and will be hopefully fixed next time. The amount of things you can miss by not going polyglot with optimal languages is massive. Why the fuck is it better to buy the elf languages than inheriting them? You are already fucked for locations if you parent gives them to you now they are also a liability on the race with the least bonuses.
>>96603477Reminder that all demon lords died except the one who lost everything and the one who was hiding underground for seven hundred years. Daemonhost is just hot air.
Only Humans, (non dark) Elves, and Majin are important. All the other races exist only to job to them.
>>96603522It reminds me of the kind of things that (imo) made the Magocratic Convention update difficult to enjoy. I really hope that's not a sign of Tankista's taste to come.
>>96603522Just because there’s a bonus that doesn’t mean it’s worth it. You’re still at a point advantage if you inherit High Elven compared to buying it, for example. But you should never learn High Elven, you are basically always better off tutoring High Elven speakers.
>>96603531Humans are jobbers extraordinaire.
>>96603585That's why I always pick them in CYOAs.
Everyone and every group in OR has “jobbed”
…Except Sarmat
>>96603619Only if we're dumb and call any kind of losing jobbing
High Elven being a bad language is narratively Meaningful.
>>96603619I never job.
>>96603531Pixies are unquestionably the strongest race.
>>96603576At 3 mentors/companions with High Elven it becomes more efficient to just learn it, not to mention the thematic significance of learning the language over the benefits but that wasn't the point I was making.Let's take Syllia for example she teaches you three of the five elven languages. Not only do none of them have locations, but all their polyglot bonuses require you not inheriting them and the pool of mentors and companions who have it is pretty limited. This not only makes an already underwhelming mother in the gift department worse, but it also means that you gain almost nothing other than flavor for keeping them all, encouraging you to sell the useless ones if not all of them and just ignore that aspect of her character. It's stupid.
>>96603642Trying to engage with elf stuff is pretty bad in general>You can't reach the heights of the elves' unique magic system because you're not royalty>The elf languages are bad aside from their bilingual bonuses>The elf events tell you to go fuck yourself for not being an elf, and if you are, they tell you to go fuck yourself for not being an EldarJNPL really doesn't like elves
>>96603643literally begging SRTR to fuck you over
>>96603719>At 3 mentors/companionsIn a vacuum, but you’re also giving up a slot that could have gone to a better language.
literally begging SRTR to fuck ME
Any elf that isn't Eldar or Dark are pretty shit.Except the mentors but even then you have to compete against Eirina and Rhucuphre.
>>96603744Just pick a location that doesn’t suit your parents. It’s that easy!
>>96603719>>96603724Elves are supposed to suck. They’re going extinct.
Would Tenyota or Ota know the method on how Yphont manipulated the Eternal Curse? They were her companies and she seems like the type to group brainstorm solutions.
>>96603719The current language bonuses are one of my least favorite aspects of OR.
The language bonuses are a puzzle to solve that has almost nothing to do with who you want to beAnyone and everyone could use +1 ancestry point or +2 destinyIt adds numbers autism that I don't feel is needed in this caseMove the insular bonuses down and give stronger plot bonuses to bilingual and insular, such as northerner helping you seduce or muddish helping you record information
>>96603761Even then, you could easily be Elyon and Versyn son and learn the elven languages to get their bonuses while inheriting them from Syllia gives you nothing.It's a shame because her philosophy is unique among all other characters and she can potentially be involved in a lot of hooks and justifications, but she's just fucked with how the choices work.
Eirina and Ciliren are intentionally underpriced relative to their strength because High Elven sucks.
>>96603626hum, what's this then?Sarmat ended his life by not taking unagingness when offered.It's practically speaking suicide and dereliction of duty.
>>96603918It's okay for a story to end anon, you don't have to drag it out.
i beat deborah
>>96603918>Chose his own path instead of letting the gods push him aroundA true man.
>>96603728From her jobberbox? Lolmao.I’d like to see the bitch try.
>>96600871Somebody canonically rolled a non-letter.
>>96604207Esu description mentions that he is an unique aberration and it probably happened thanks to Maou fighting Charlie for so long. It doesn't seem like he could just be replicated by a single dice roll.
>>96604233Why not? It's literally just a new template for Daemonhost users.
>>96603643Me neither, i just lose so hard it's not even considered jobbing.
>>96603026Wait Jdan fucked an elf? Huh
>>96603005All her description says is she cares enough about you to do Treason. It's easy waifu-bait if you want it to be, but it only happens that way if (you) take the story in that direction.
>>96603976>>96603993you job to deathdeath can't stop winning wtf
If there’s spoken God-Script, written God-Script, and even living God-Script, then it makes sense that there is or could be a God-Script sign language too. Perhaps even God-Script braille.
>>96604558>God-UnicodeOC OC OC OC OC OC
>>96604532death jobs to Uruk Necromancer
>>96604614Jobbing to death is like the state religion of necromancers.That's why Tumen are so JNPiLled.
>>96597904>>96598029>>96600297got sidetracked but I did not forget! I don't really love these veiled waifu CYOAs where your companions are your powers. I enjoyed it more than I expected to though. On to the next>Ballad of Compassion>Orchestra of Conquest>Scorewriter: Zealous - 100% (Favored)>-Speech Bind>-Fertility Seal>Ottava, the Impish Vagrant: Devoted - 90%>-Elemental Specialization x1>-Whims of the Fae>-Pledge of Dedication x5>-Onomatophobia>-Freedom Vow>Schnell, the Fickle Breeze: Loyal - 66%>-Pledge of Activity x7>-Skyscape Fixation>-Chemical Sense Bind>Rasch, the Howling Thundersquall: Loyal - 60% >-Elemental Variety x3>-Rain Fixation>-Vow of Anonymity>Seikilos, Common Descent: Loyal - 72%>-Primeval Acrimony>-Promise of Pledges>-Promise of Phobias>-Promise of Fixations>-Promise of Honor
>>96602217Xet adoption.
>>96604625The Tumen were subverted by JNPL. Luckily, Lichyard chads know better.
>>96598369The answer to the unwinnable situation is to change the situation.Hack and disable it before it fires.Be like Han, and shoot first.Teleport right through their shields to give them a stern and violent talking to.Make a 25 navigation ship and boost its speed even higher, before doubling its speed, to make a space battering-ram.Have a sacrificial drone ship take the shot. Name it the HMS Getdownmisterpresident.Converse politely.Converse politely while a cloaked fighter shoves a torpedo down its throat.Think outside the box.
Reach out, touch faith>>96604784>>96604784>>96604784
>>96600071What do you mean?>>96602265By that logic, no one will care about your build in V3 either. You can wait what may possibly be years until V3 comes out, or make one now. I just updated my build, hoping that might drive up Zelo stocks.
>>96597841>NorthernerDoes Nihlmatrix fall for their charm too? Is this the world where the Ecumene is taken down by making love, not war?
>>96604865**Yes**
>>96604630NiceCan't fault you for picking scorwriter, she's a bit too op
>>96597922I prefer this one to the other but I'm still not a huge fan. Feels like a mashup of other CYOAs that predated it. Thank you for sharing anyhow!>Foreign Blood>Mana Core>Life>-Abstinence>--Wave Tracking>--Outward Awareness>Wind>-Breeze>--Allnoise>Illusion>-Trick>--Greater Trick>Animation>-Puppeteering>Aura>-Awakening>--Outer Will>--Aura Properties (Sticky)>Magical Advancement Society>Regeneration>Bigger Fish to Catch>Born and Raised>Tamara Merudio>Halam Jouen>-Luci Neila>Bellim>Merudio Building>City Park>Docks>Doller>Dead End>Horde>When I Get Older>Dulled Perception x2>Pain Intolerance>Taxing Burden>Like a Rising Dragon
>>96597552This thread's dying, so I'll probably re-post next thread, but new solo build: https://rentry.co/ZwiyaOfTheGuttersI like Mihrdat more than is perhaps healthy, and I was sad that only one person has taken him, so I made a Hexland character.
>>96605546>troon buildeww
>>96605546What has got you so bent out of shape about hereditary monarchies?Alright husbando choice, (you actually very clearly don't like him enough)But do you really think voting is the ideal solution to rule a group that can literally, and not figuratively, print people? How can anyone possibly reconcile that without ethnic cleansing (Of demonhosts (WHO ARE OF MAJOR CULTURAL IMPORTANCE TO THE MAJIN)) or removing the rights of 90% of the population?If you let the people vote they will side with the demon lords, who fundamentally contradict democracyHonestly the idea of an outside power using force and manipulation to push a democracy on others has always been quite miserable
>>96605734There is an active republican movement in the setting, anon. One of my mentors is a leader in it. The anti-Sisterly parties are explicitly going to win unless the Outsider intervenes on behalf of the crown It's not clear which anti-Sisterly faction pulls out ahead sans outsider involvement, but it's republic or dissolution. This is the opposite of the scenario you're describing.As far as Daemonhost goes, there's exactly one of those still active, and she's on another continent. Demon Lords have never been a part of Light and Dark, and a foreign power printing people to take over your country is just an invasion. You fight them like every othet demon lord in history. We have a whole paramilitary for it.
>>96605874It's pretty clear without an Outsider involved that Kaliopa ends up as Empress then leads one final war against Charlotte in which she dies tragically.
>>96605874>Demon Lords have never been a part of Light and DarkKonstantin, the first emperor, married a Demon Princess.
>>96605884Kallopa's entry specifies "if no succession crisis occurs" when talking about her rule. But there's a succession crisis that will definitely happen unless you prevent it. Iwnn's entry plainly says "how the succession resolves after his death is something only [YMRD] can predict." On the Edge happens with or without you; taking the encounter just puts you there on the night of the assassination to influence the outcome. It's pretty clear that they kill the sisters if you don't stop it, and it's reasonable to assume that a coup follows the assassimation. At best, you can say that Kalliopa leads a counter-revolution in the no-outsider scenario, but she'll be a 20something year old girl in over her head. The funeral bureau and Gewergin both think/thought she wouldn't make it.
>>96605954>it's reasonable to assume that a coup follows the assassimationIt's reasonable to assume they killed the unpopular regents to speed up the popular Kalliopa's ascent to the throne. There's also the matter of Zwa being implied to lead an open rebellion against the sisters, and you have no idea how that relates to the assassins goals.
>>96605893Demon princesses aren't demon lords. They often don't have Daemonhost, and the ones who do are usually holding that title underneath a Demon Lord parent, so that's not the situation with Konstantin. Dei's entry specifically calls her out as weird for insisting on the title when she should be considered a Demon Lord.
>>96605985>Demon princesses aren't demon lords. They often don't have DaemonhosDemon Princesses are LITERALLY those that qualify as Demon Lords but choose to stay under their parents instead of ruling their own realm. The rank exists exclusively for Daemonhosts that don't rule a territory.>Dei's entry calls her out as weirdBecause her parent isn't around anymore, she doesn't serve under anyone.
>>96605981Literally the only anti-sisterly party that would think about doing that is the Funeral Bureau, and they haven't committed to any course of action yet. Hladvig and Qlippoth wouldn't, nor Sawarmag and his southlander separatists. The Republicans wouldn't, Zwa wants the throne for herself not Kalliopa,
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>>96606014There are anti-sistery parties besides the companions in the CYOA.
>>96606014>>96606069Like it seems to me that your personal investment in democracy retardation has you just automatically assume the republican party winning is default and destined.
>>96606074I literally said>It's not clear which anti-Sisterly faction pulls out ahead sans outsider involvement, but it's republic or dissolutionJfc you people can't fucking read.
>>96606081Yeah that's what I mean, you think the only alternative to your dream democracy is dissolution, completely ignoring how there are pro-Iwnn parties (who'll switch to the other two once he dies), pro-Zwa, and pro-Kalliopa parties.
>>96606069Tank uses characters in the CYOA are used as representatives for factions. We have a faction to character map for the Exarchate >>96598407. Note that the only faction which doesn't have a representative character is the one that doesn't exist unless the Outsider starts it.
>>96606135Yeah and you have Zwa and Kalliopa there to represent their own groups.
>>96605546Evdokia and Gwriel, looks like you aren't going to be in the same world as me! One of the focuses of my build was the Empire, a royal claimant to be specific, and being a prince ideally I'd keep the monarchy intact, so I suppose we wouldn't get along too well had we been in the same world. But given that Gwriel is my mentor while I'm the son of the emperor, I guess I could convince you with enough time.>>96606184Zwa's my mom, and Kalliopa was initially one of my allies before I used the Gunter extra companions hack and replaced her with Gunter while placing her as his ally. Awkward, I know, but I think Kalliopa is awesome, and I'd prefer to make her an ally. Besides, I'll need as much firepower as I can get when I barbarossa the Ecumene.
>>96606134That's not what you fucking said. >you just automatically assume the republican party winning is default and destined.You're arguing in bad faith and backtracking when called out, but just to reiterate:1. There is fated to be a successful assassination attempt against the regency2. The one doing that assassination is left intentionally vague, but we know the following:>Multiple anti-sisterly parties want dissolution of the empire. One of them successfully poisoned the emperor.>The moderates are not described as using assassins, instead simply calling to "disanoint the emperor Iwnn and sideline the regency". They are not likely to be the ones sending the assassins.>Kalliopa is heir apparent; assassinating her mother is not a move in favor of her. Iwnn is literally the acting emperor; assassinating the regency is not a pro-Iwnn move.>The funeral bureau, which is loyal to the realm not the crown, is considering assassination, but is awaiting the 11th outsider before making a decision. They will side with any outsider whose "goals align with the realm". Their actions are inherently outsider-dependent, and they might well be the ones doing the assassination if they decide they don't like 11, but that's irrelevant to the "what if no outsider' conversation.>Zwa is disgraced and exiled. She has no support at this time. She could theoretically gain it, just like how the Yellows or New Purples could become major players in the civil war depending on 11's actions, but she is not in a position to do anything other than murder her sisters and send the realm into chaos as she is described.3. The Empire is repeatedly described as crumbling, failing, falling apart, glory days are over. It's everywhere in the CYOA.I don't think "the dissolutionists are extremely likely to be the assassins unless 11 changes something" is a difficult conclusion to draw from the facts.
>>96606325Stepping back to the beginning for a minute: Genuinely, you have to be so far up your monarchist ass to think "the monarchy would be doing fine if not for you meddling outsider!" that I don't know why I'm bothering. It's debatable whether the Republicans are the best solution to the Empire's problems, but acting like the Empire is doing fine is just a fucking lie. The previous Emperor literally told the people in charge of succession to throw to 11 because the empire's too fucked to deal with shit itself.
>>96606325You forgot that the assassins could be from Pandemonium who would be doing it to cause chaos, not necessarily to cause any party to win or directly destroy the empire.>Zwa is disgraced and exiledBy order three incredibly unpopular idiots, and her own description describes how she can't bare to let them keep fucking the realm up. Put on that thinking cap and imagine what that means she's going to do, and what kind of support the legitimate princess of her father's actual wife would get from literally any royalist who hates the stooges enough to boot them.>>96606331>becauseBecause he wanted his empire to side with and help the 11th kill Charlotte? There's no indication he did that as some sort of testament to his empire dying, by all accounts it was doing fine under him.
