Previous Thread: >>96624754The walls of reality are collapsing, no topic is off topic anymore Edition>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.com/https://www.pdhrec.com/>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Make custom cardshttps://magicseteditor.boards.nethttps://mtg.designhttps://mtgcardsmith.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>How to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>TQWhat was your favourite scene from a 20 year old sit-com set in the office of a paper company?
i'm so fucking glad i sold out of magic earlier this year lmao the absolute state of this game man
>>96627905I wish fortnite adapted shit even a quarter as well as magic.
>>96627911Said no one ever
>>96627916Anyone who isn't a retard would say that. Are you dumb?
It's pretty stupid that I have to make arts of magic cards so I can play the cards in magic's universe.
>>96627905>20 year old showSo...younger than all the FF games people jacked off over?
>>96627918Pretty sure only retards play fortnight are would know how their cross kbrand trash is implemented.
I have 78 commander decks currently sleeved upwhat else should i build? hit me with a weird if its good ill drop 5k USD on the deck buildI play mostly black decks currently
>>96627924>what else should i build?>I play mostly black decks currentlyYou got a Phage the Untouchable deck? Scares the hell out of hindu players
>>96627924>trying to impress in here of all placesWhere do you think you are?
>>96627927>Phage the Untouchable deckYes I have the riced out SLD version of it
I'm so happy for star trek I can't wait to piss people off with spock
>>96627924>EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUOh wow, whalesong
>>96627930post ur list
>>96627931Are people really hyped for these boomer products? The Doctor Who thing was already premium cringe.
>>96627935So fucking hype my man
>>96627935If piggy's snout is in the trough, piggy is happyit's an uncomplicated life
>>96627924Monke
400 Days until star trek
>>96627934its pretty outdate desu as its a mid fun deck>>96627928the EDH general?I was thinking weird counters with kros defense contractor
>>96627940Truly. But oh boy does piggy squeal when you judge him for munching on slop.
>>96627935Im lowkey hype for star trek but I know its gonna suck
>>96627940>>96627945SameFag
>>96627950unplayable, should be at least 5/5 trample and hexproof
>>96627944>its pretty outdate desu as its a mid fun deckI'm just curious since I was planning to build phage soon myselfLove fun mid decks me
>>96627954Youwish
You guys don't get it. I'm not hyped for star trek because I think it's gonna be good. I'm hyped for the maximum trolling star trek entails. There's no way they make that set any good without dropping a pretty insane bomb of a card.
>>96627948I'm not hyped for any franchise but the cards we get. All the interesting Commanders these days have been exiled to Universes Beyond.
>>96627973>There's no way they make that set any good without dropping a pretty insane bomb of a card.They're just going to serialize the ships, it's pretty fucking obvious.They even serialized an alt art Bitterbloom Bearer for Lorwyn
>>96627973I don't see star trek causing spider man levels of seethe
>>96627976>I'm not hyped for any franchise but the cards we getInsectoid mindset
>>96627995get a new hobby.
>>96628005SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUEY
>>96627995Kill yourself you unlikable faggot who has never once known the love of another. When you were born your mother and father cried knowing you have ruined their life and were a mistake
>>96628011>Kill yourself you unlikable faggot who has never once known the love of anotherLmao called it here >>96627945
>>96628014Those looks your parents always gave you weren't because they were thinking or caring about you. They were looking at their shattered hopes and dreams given form. A homunculus of misery.
>>96628016>edgy 16 year old thinks his words have power El oh el
>>96628014Noticed the lack of denial albeit
>consooming lorwyn is ok>consoooming avatar is notWhy?
>>96628022>paying for a product is ok>paying for an ad is not
>>96628027Both are products
>>96628022this is a thread for magic the gathering, consuming magic the gathering product is expected, consuming random mediocre children's cartoon product is not
>>96628029No an ad is an ad, and you are paying to be advertized to.
>>96628030Avatar cards LOOK like Magic the gathering....they PLAY like magic the gathering....hmmm.... officially released by wizards of the coast as a magic the gathering product..... what's the difference again?
>>96628030>>96628032I'm just writing this down as "I don't have an argument." Thanks for wasting my time.
>>96628033>Avatar cards LOOK like Magic the gathering....>they PLAY like magic the gathering....>hmmm.... officially released by wizards of the coast
>>96628033One is magic the gathering and the other is just wearing its skin I should think this is pretty self explanatory
>>96628034You should write it down as "they have an argument I dont want to hear- note to self: reflect on why I get so upset by others having different principles to me" it'll help you more in the long run
>>96628037>screencapsNot reading. Get an original thought instead of having your opinions given to you by others while pretending to be a free thinker.
>>96628048>>screencaps>Not readingTelling me you're not reading and then continuing to type. Not reading.
>>96628048It isn't mtg, no matter what labels you put on it. Mtg is mtg, avatar is avatar. I love both, very much separately. I do not want to see Chandra in Avatar, I do not want to see Aang in mtg.
>>96628059>waaah waaaah waaaah
Anyway I need more mana dorks for my boy.
>>96628059The UB piggy will never understand a principled take. They have low impulse control and a need for comfort in consumerism. One of them outright admitted last thread that UB is the only thing that makes him feel child-like excitement and he's desperate to return to that. How do you reason him out of that? You can't. He's practically an addict. And I think he thinks that too, I think he thinks he is an addict and he's ashamed and that's why he gets so fucking upset when other people have the fortitude not to indulge in the way he is compelled to
>>96628069post the real version
>>96628072What is "the real version"? There's like 4 or 5 versions of this card
>>96628075
>>96628082This art looks weirdly cropped
>>96628082>horrible looking frame>weirdly giant grey artist name>entire font is wrong>art is poor quality and lacks detail>it's just a mulatto with a fucking duskmourn gun"real"
>>96628086>>horrible looking frame>>weirdly giant grey artist name>>entire font is wrongGood on you for not playing Arena I guess
>>96628091Arena looks very unprofessional and it is a reason I don't play it. Theres no excuse to the cards looking like that and I'd rather see spongebob over that ugly fucking mess
>>96628098>Arena looks very unprofessionalYou were the kind of autist who prided himself on listening to classical music instead of pop music in high school, weren't you
>>96628082Peter Parker>white man from QueensSurris>Some brown xim from the stranger things world
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>96628105Yeah cos playing race purity games with a Disney IP is a great idea. Remind me again what race is Miles Morales? Spiderman 2099? How about Pavitr Prabhakar?
>>96628102No i listened to it cause I liked it. I understand though that interests not being performative may be a foreign concept to you.
>>96628112I'm not playing any of those so this is irrelevant
>>96628115Lmao I knew it
>>96628120There is no pride in having interests and perferences. I also like metal, jazz, and elevator tunes.
>>96628130Do you now or have you ever owned a leather trench coat?
>>96628136No. My dad bought ne a fedora cause he likes them but I never wore it.
>>96628144>My dad bought ne a fedora cause he likes themGenetically inherited autism then, no tylenol.
>>96628147No, just from the gen that associated them with businessmen or detectives. I am just barely off the spectrum.
Magic the Gathering is a UB set of LotR.
>>96627931god toxic UBtourists are the fucking worst
Very disappointed with the lack of TQ engagement in this thread tbqhwy
make magic guns again
>>96628174I never watched the officeIf they made a Yes, Minister secret lair then I could comment
Soon
>>96628179Tons in portal second age, yeah.
>>96628215But not in my cowboy set no sir nor my mob set
>>96628069I am irritated this promo was from unannounced Disney park event
>>96627995It really is an insectoid mindset...yet it looks like we're in the minority anon.Sorry to doompost, but you won, UBslopers. This is too much for me. Going to try to get away from MTG for a bit. It's okay, all things come to an end. Enjoy the pride before the fall.
>>96628223The issue being that those sets were just that.
>>96628200No one knows what the fuck this is. You coomers have a whole parallel economy
>>96628223yee-claw
>>96628082Are all Spider-Man cards actually just reskins?
>>96628297No, omenpaths are reskins of spiderman cards for arena, because the licensing agreement with disney didn't cover arena, only paperso they had to reskin the cards as mtg cards just for arena
>>96628082Why is the art so low fidelity? Shouldn't it be more because it's digital? Load the whole art in and shrink it down, seriously I can't make out shit in it
What's your favorite sultai commander? I like this art but feel like he'd be better in the 99 of something. If I can find it, how was the tarkir precon for it?
>>96628200>ReprintsNah, make them mechanically unique cards so people are forced to play them
>cEDH is slowly phasing out the counterspells and interactions for more aggressive win pushGood to see they finally realized that battlecruiser is the way to go.
>>96628043Magic The Gathering has been a bug alien wearing Magic's skin since line 2001, get over it.
>>96628393How dare you bring Mirrodin and Kamigawa into this, both of those blocks are awesome
Has it happened, the UB burnout?
>>96628410lolno
>>96628334I honestly really love Yarok. Playing him with more of an ETB focus (rather than just landfall) and running a lot of Birthing Pod-esc cards was the first time I ever felt like I was playing a real "Toolbox" commander.I will give some love to Sidisi, Brood Tyrant, but I had more fun switching that deck over to Golgari with The Mycotyrant.
OK there are some bumps here and there this early on but I want to see more of the OG artists coming back doing this set, especially Larry and Steve.
Why did they made Ashling an izzet when her shadowmoor counterpart is black?
>>96628410Lolyeah
>>96628410'fraid so.
>>96628483She isn’t izzet in universe, shes monored or monoblue. Color identity exists only in CommanderAnd they’re just exploring each color with her which is fuckin neato. Black Ashling needed an upgrade though, it got powercrept to shit
>>96628471I cannot believe there was a schizo saying this doesn't look like OG Lorwyn/Shadowmoor, this is so fucking sick
>>96628508He didn’t even know the difference between saturation and dynamic range
My Kithkin and Universes Beyond decks are in for a good time.
>>96628577I'm sure your cage and plug are super excited as well.
>>96628578You know it!
I build my decks to do well against almost every strategy except combo, because if I'm playing someone who enjoys combo I wouldn't have enjoyed the game regardless of whether or not I shut them down.
>all the good cards are in a single scene box>againthis time people are ready scalp it to non-existence tho
>>96628661It won't sell. There's UB fatigue
>>96628665I hope so but that's just delusional
>>96628022Its doubly funny when you realize lorwyn doesnt look like lorwyn so the aesthetic argument falls apart. But as we saw with Tarkir mid sets are good if its nostalgic
>>96628695Delusional>>96628665I'm buying strictly to scalp, fuck UBfaggots.
>>96628034Seems pretty clear to me anon... what part did you not understand?
>>96628082AI art btw. Like 90% of the omenpath cards are touched up AI. Chris Mangum isnt even real lol
>>96628102>>96628120>>96628147Why are zoomers so embarrassing learn how to conduct yourself please.
>>96628511>saturation>(of color)... bright!I was right by the way.>>96628508You are responding to an alt art of a card anon... done by an original artist of Lorwyn, intentionally done to actually mimic the aesthetic. Yoire retarded lol>>96627425Either of you are welcome to give uo a rebuttal to this. Or just stop larping youre both clearly young zoomers who were told to like Lorwyn so you are mindlessly doing it. The art (not alt arts) are awful. And look nothing like Lorwyn.
>need Bitterbloom Bearer for three decksHope it doesn't crack $10.
>>96628744it'll be 50+
>>96628744Anon it'll be like 5 bucks.
>>96628747I don't think people will be that hype on it once we reach release, actual Bitterblossom is only $12.
>>96628744I mean it's a better version of a card that's already what like 15 bucks?
>>96628717>original artist of Lorwyn, intentionally done to actually mimic the aestheticSo they're getting OG artists to come back and do art? That's cool. What's the issue?
>>96627981>people like Rebecca Guay art, huh?>well now only 500 people get it
My gambling habits paid off, do I throw this overpowered piece of shit into>TerraIs the actual reanimator deck, but is pretty low to the ground and doesn't have a ton of mana problems.>Kefka, Court MageSome mana problems in that deck but doesn't really synergize otherwise
>>96628850You could throw it into one of my decks instead
>>96628850It has some synergy with Kefka, discarding means opportunity to put good creatures in the graveyard.
>>96628850throw it in the paper shredder
>>96628850Need this thing for my Ashnod deck.
>>96628850Capeshitters should be gassed.
>>96628906no one *needs* this thing, except for possibly pasty Tournament nerds
Pulled Mr. Negative last night, tried to throw together a decklist, still pretty new to this. Anyone able to give feedback?https://moxfield.com/decks/X1dyPeJ3e0Kf-uSAJYjY_A
>>96628850>this statement >only has 2 UB decks to choose from>can't even make this simple decision for himself I give this one 4/5 yikes
>>96628665It will sell because scalpers and investors exist. Even if it doesn't see play, it's gonna sell, which is all Hasbro cares about.
>>96628069So stupid that he's bant
>>96629121if scalpers and investors stop seeing returns on their investment (like with Spider-Man) they'll stop buying too.
Have you ever built a commander just because you wanted to fuck that commander?
>>96629172yes
>>96628665Anons said this with FF btw
>>96629193no they didn't
>>96629208yuh huh my mom told me so
>>96629222was that before or after she sucked my dick
>Star Trek setI want a legendary Captain built around sacrificing Redshirt tokens.
>>96628410Almost.Not yet, but very very soon.
>>96628410Spider-Man was the warning shot, the announcement that four out of seven sets next year will be UB was the broadside
>>96629121They also could ensure to print enough to at least dampen the scalpers impact a bit. But this is coming from a company that tries to sell you bundles like picrel at an "attractive" discount so they don't have to pay for shipment, which starts at 99
>>96629230before
instead of complaining about UB, why not discuss which UB youd be interested in, like elden ring or resident evil
>>96629249the only UB I'm interested in is Dimir
>>96629249I know the Star Wars set will be full of retarded shit, but there could be something worthwhile.
>>96629249Im interested in none of them you faggot marketer
>>96629283so you want more poorly-written fanfics? UB works because the in universe plotlines are fucking trash
>>96629249Bagel and Schmear
>>96628027>>96628032UB sets are ads, but they're ads for Magic.
>>96629249I want UB:MtG Beta, because it's so out of reach in this onegod WotC is so infinitely retarded just look at Pokémon and Yu-Gi-Oh how to remake old sets what a bunch of shiteating fuckhacks, they do shit like this and act like people must only want UB now
>>96629359UB sets are aids*
If I spend another 8 hours complaining about UB on an obscure 4chan thread, surely they'll cancel it anytime now!
>>96629427Certified reddit post
>>96629493You're right i'm sorry that was very reddit of me, i'll have to be better.Should I cover the anti-UB spam shift tonight? We'll have to stop it from ruining our game no matter what.
>>96629427>>96629530How about you just shill a bit better?
>>96629537Ahh you caught me! I'm part of the WOTC Tactical UB Promotion Squadron. Our mission is to convince the 12 anons that post in this thread to not have the same meltdown about UB cards every day, if we can't accomplish this then the entire UB brand will die and Wizards will have to fire all of its transsexual employees! Everything hinges on your posts!
Well if we're doing anything and everything for secret lair, i'd like to see a pop star secret lair for my girlfriend. she would go absolutely crazy for a Sabrina Carpenter commander. wizards, if you're listening, this is free alpha right here on attracting more female players. that and making bloomburrow 2
>>96629559Cooming to celebrities always seemed so low IQ to me. Anime girls are like right there.
>>96627924>I play mostly black decks currentlyHave you built Aragorn yet?
>>96629565wizards would literally print 100 million dollars with a taylor swift secret lair and not a dime of it would be from actual magic players
>>96629553Now this is a shit shill
>>96628832No issue at all for alt arts as usual.
>commander is meh to me>see it has a really cool alt printing>i am now interested in building itDo i have a mental illness?
>>96629692I'm too lazy to import the token assets from Arena or try to make them myself but I want to so badly.>>96626374Fuck yeah Yenna chads, good morning to you sirs.>>96629731Aesthetics are half the fun anon, you're good.Also fuck UB and all you slop faggots! One day closer to UWH (Universe Within Highlander)
>>96629731Nope. I never cared for Umbris, now I'm very interested in building it
>ANOTHER FUCKING YEAR WITHOUT A WORLD OF WARCRAFT UBdon't reply to me saying it's because it would conflict with hearthstone. i already know in my heart of hearts
>>96629427>Why are people discussing how much they hate something that I like
>>96629731Half the fun If playing my Codie deck is the set of foil Neon Dynasty Full art basics i have in there.
>>96629764given what happened with Bethesdathey'd do a Starcraft crossover
>>96628085a lot of them are definitely cropped. they're using this opportunity to use some extra art they had for older sets, with some spiders quickly added.only a few seem to actually be new arts, or at least have some decent effort in to make them work, like the symbiotes. the rest are art that didn't make the cut or 1/3rd of an art that didn't make the cut, like the referee one.also I agree with that other guy that arena looks like low res shit, but it's probably so people don't use screencaps to print counterfeits.
>>96629780>golgari zerg deck with the hivemind as commaderi would love this
>>96629806>print counterfeitsi dunno if you can counterfeit a product that doesn't exist
Reposting cause I like it. Added Karmic guide, took out altar of D. Still have 2 slots will just ram in whatever before the LGS today. I keep a stack of "staples" for each colour so ill just grab from there
>>96629749>Universes Within HighlanderI can only hope and dream.
>>96629815anon, arena has been around since 2017, there's more sets on there than not-spiderman.
I hate this fucking faggot card so much
>>96629833ok but would you hate it if it was a furby
>>96629765I don't like most UBslop either, but it's the same posts here every day over and over and when challenged on it these retards say things like "we have to speak up if we don't want the game to go to shit" as if their inane spam here will do literally anything.
>>96629764I have some critiques of this design. One: Arthas is a Noble, it's an important part of who he is. Two: It should just be Frostmourne that does the change, or honestly any Legendary Equipment, it's too parasitic otherwise.Three: Lich King shouldn't be Human-typed anymore, obviously, and remove Knight, just make him a Zombie Noble or something.Four: He should raise ANY creature from any graveyard, but make it a zombie in addition, instead.Also why the fuck would you need to use AI art for Arthas there's so much art of him already.
>>96629833>7 mana dies to removal
>>96627924You will never have sex
>>96629890>oh a removal spell?>in response I cast Opt, returning it to your hand with Hullbreaker's triggered ability
>>96629906cool let me re-cast it again
>>96629910oh that's neat, I'll cast Ponder in response, returning it to your hand again
>>96629922cool so I'll re-cast it again
>>96629833get clued
Are you going to buy my latest card /edhg/?
>>96629859Always speak up for what you believe in, anon. Even if you think it's ultimately inconsequential.
>>96629943japping in this dead thread wont change anything. go to reddit and twitter and stir up a shitstorm with your time instead.
Made a zoomer ragequit because my mill deck forced him to take actions so he could not zone off on his phone
>>96629833Liquimetal Torque + Krosan grip gg no re.
>>96629936why would you enchant a clue to be a clue?
>>96629971Its so it doesnt fall off once it goes into effect anon :)
>>96629971It's to adhere to the rules. If you enchant something that changes a permanent into another permanent, but the aura doesn't say "enchant [new permanent type]" then it'll fall off. Same reason why Reanimate Dead is so wordy
>>96629978>>96629971Same reason the modern Animate Dead text is so long.
>>96629950It likely isn't changing anything, but I am still going to discuss how dildos of a concept a Time Lord is in magic in a thread dedicated to a specific format of Magic with other people who agree that it is indeed dildos. You are just going to have to learn that there are people who hate UB anon.
>>96629987>>96629988holy fuck
>>96628834Its more like>people like Rebecca guay art, huh?>how can we monetize this?
>>96629950>bitching about other people bitching Are you german?
>>96629249Hot naked women with guns. Also no negros unless they are hot naked women.Get to it shill.
>>96630001I think he sounds American desu. Probably the kind that doesn't vote.
>>96629987>>96629988Get mogged :^)
Can't wait for the confirmation that the nick set really is just TMNT so we can have a return to NYC set less than seven months after spidershit
>>96630027Yeah cool who cares
Drawing the cards is easy. What're the best "big fuckoff" spells I can abuse with this?
>>96630029Certainly explains the lack of pizza in the spidey set
>>96630043I mean, I know NYC is known for pizza, but I wouldn't really associate Spider-Man with it. Hot dogs, sure, bagels, kinda.
>>96630027to be fair a modern animate dead would more likely be"when you cast this card, return target creature from your graveyard to play with the ability "if this card is not enchanted with a card named [this card], sacrifice it", then attach [this card] to that creature as it enters the battlefield"but that would remove a bunch of nonsense interactions like just moving it to another creature without it leaving the battlefield, and present the issue of playing the card then bouncing it on the stack just to death/enter trigger the creature
He's kino
>>96630053any NYC fast food is something Spidey should be into, that guy needs the carb loading and needs something cheap you can eat with your hands.
>>96629939>exclusive art of precon yuna is her in the cuckold fetish gown right before she gets mouth raped by Seymourwho is this for exactly?
>>96630078feel like this isn't correct
>>96630078people who both don't know that and have a wedding dress fetish
>>96630078I dont know or care about your shitty games lore so me.
>>96629929You recognise I'm casting cantrips for 1 mana while you cast the same 1-3 mana removal spell, right?
What are your top commanders?
>>96630090you realize that the cantrips have yet to resolve and you're going to run out of cards?
>>96630085yuna doesn't have anything to do with mtg lore though
>>96630039Expropriate if you're a fag that likes extra turns, the Endeavors from AFR, Rise of the Dark Realms
>>96630103Fair point.
>>96628082Its UB: DuskmournKek
>>96630096what is your oloro deck like, he seems like one of those generic commanders you could build 10 different ways
>>96629249>why not discuss which UB youd be interested in,MKM: Scooby Doo
Somebody last thread was talking about stickers and I decided I want to take the sticker pill. What are some good commanders for it?
>>96630208none
>>96630027Its missing the hidden text about turning monsters into zombies
>>96630160He was pretty boring at first it was just standing there gaining life or swapping it with Reverse the Sands and then dropping either a Felidar Sovereign or Vito with Exquisite Blood. I made it a little bit more aggro by adding cards like Excalibur 2, Voice of the Blessed, and True conviction
>>96627910I sold everything when the first walking dead shit hit and wasn't roundly rejected for being>literally mechanically unique cards from a non magic OPI saw the writing on the wall and I knew without immediate, full scale community pushback it was gonna get worse.here were are, you're on the slope, going at high speedif you're still riding it, the only thing you can do is pray for a cool loop de loop.
If I am newbie to magic, is it better to buy one of the precon commander decks and then build upon them, or would it be cheaper to search for popular list and buy the cards directly?
>>96630317Unless you're specifically looking for a budget list, a precon is generally easier and cheaper.
>>96630317Precons shortcut the magic half to get to the gathering and they are for fags. Rise above.
>>96630303I didn't sell anything, but I did stop buying new cards. No real point in liquidating when you have real investments and ample storage space in your house. If, somehow, the game becomes good again, I'll be able to jump back in. If it doesn't, I haven't lost anything.
>>96629249I think the Iron Maiden Lignify is pretty good, as far as UB/Secret Lair goes.Which of these would you swap for Offer You Can't Refuse? OG counterspell?
>>96630113>if you're a fag that likes extra turnsHate them desu.>Rise of the Dark RealmsThat's the kind of spice I'm looking for. Board wipe one turn, cast that the next. Red has a shitload of Haste enablers to full-swing with everyone's stuff. Good shit.
>>96630317Absolutely find one of the better precons out there and do minor upgrades to suit your tastes. Only after you've decided to keep with the game should you ever build your own deck from scratch
>>96628351This is literally hell because it means that threats have now completely outpaced all forms of interaction.
>>96630317>is it better to buy one of the precon commander decks and then build upon them, or would it be cheaper to search for popular list and buy the cards directly?Good budget decks exist but you arent at the point where youre going to know whats good for the priceJust start with a precon you like and get better cards for it
>>96630327>>96630417>>96630435Thanks guys, I like the Final Fantasy cat hero, so I will get the Scions and Spellcraft.
>>96630068Imagine putting Genji Glove on this nigga
>>96630237Fuck you anon I'm gonna STICKER
>>96630356swan song
All instants should be retconned to be sorceries with flash
All creatures should be retconned to be basic lands that tap for any color and have haste, hexproof, and indestructible.
All blue cards should be retconned to not exist.
>>96629427This but unironically.
>>96630682Counterspells should refund the mana of the countered spell
>>96630690That would actually be a good change
>>96630651>breaks dozens of cardsT-thanks zoomie
>>96629530>>96629553Imagine being this booty blasted about people not liking the thing you like. Hopefully your being paid to be upset or this would be sad.
>>96630078
>>96630208>>96630643If you mean my Derevi deck, I've run a few sticker decks in the past. I'm always on the lookout for generals I can force the strat onto. But it's somewhat limited.No one asked but here's a quick Sticker Primer.>green is a mustThe color has the best ticket-producers; Clandestine Chameleon can actually be powerful, Finishing Move has utility as a removal spell>blue gives access to Ambassador Blorpityblorp and also clones + flicker, which leads to a more important point...You can't just "add" ticket creatures and call it a day. There are a dearth of viable ones. You'll want cards that cheat them out (Green Sun's Zenith etc). Clone them or flicker them or if you're in black reanimate them. Proliferate is ok too>choosing a commanderStickers modify a creature for the rest of the game. Adding keywords, base stats. It's a voltron strategy that trades bursting out the gates for inevitability. You won't be slapping your commander with 50 equips, but when everyone else is out of juice you'll be left with a 10/10 with 6 keywords. That said I've only had success with three commanders.>Ukkima, Stalking Shadow and Cazur, Ruthless StalkerProbably the "best" sticker commander by a mile. His leaves the battlefield trigger becomes very lethal very fast when you're flickering and reanimating him at 10 power. His ability triggers infect and lifelink and he's just innately unblockable.>DereviThis one took me a while to build because I couldn't be assed to buy the card. But now that I have I'm sold. The "stickiest" commander out there, always costing 4. A permanent-lite deck that builds up resources in the form of growing your commander lets you run frequent board wipes without harming your actual game plan>SkullbriarNot the focus of the deck. But I've had some success on a reanimate-heavy skullbriar build that runs a small handful of green ticket producers.I'm sure there's other commanders that'd work well with stickers though I'm not sure which.
>>96630733Not the point at all, i hate most UBs too.
>>96630651All instants should be renamed interrupts.
>>96630740Sure you do. You hate it so much you don't want negative discussions about it.
>>96629763https://moxfield.com/decks/-7fhXdGqn0OAMu7ZQFSUyQOne of my favorite decks to play. Struggles to close games out so make sure to spread the exile around. Rite of Consumption, Tasha's Hideous Artwork and Oblivion Sower are mvps.
>>96630747It's just the same posts every day over and over by schizos who seemingly believe that spamming this thread achieves anything.
>>96630739I wanted to build an ivy sticker deck so badly unfortunately it just doesn't synergize.I've put the most thought myself into Ukkima/Partner, Jenova, and Brokkos.The soulticketer alone in white makes a blink strategy possible (I think Brago would be the most synergistic since he wants to attack unlike Yorion or Abdel)
>>96630757>seemingly believe that spamming this thread achieves anything.you have an extremely low theory of mind for others. they're posting here because they're angry and this is the only place they can let off steam without being swarmed by "let people enjoy things" redditors. which is what you're doing right now
>>96630764Yeah. Ivy feels like it aligns conceptually with stickers, but she really has nothing to do with them from a mechanical standpoint. Of those ones you listed Brokkos is an excellent choice. I'd considered him in the past but him just being a flat 6/6 turned me off a little. It makes the stat stick aspect of stickers less enticing. Keyword souping him would make him very strong though, combo-y depending on your sticker deck roll at the start of the game.
>>96630770No that truly is how they feel, you're giving too much benefit of the doubt to people who really are just very unintelligent and likely mentally ill.I've seen them argue here on multiple occasions that their spam against UB is somehow the alternative to just "eating shit", they think that by incessantly spamming about it they can somehow rile up enough anti-UB sentiment to save the game they're too emotionally attached to to quit.
>>96630770Not him but I can get being angry about UB but it's all anons do here. Literally what else is there that's guaranteed to happen every day? Hardly anyone posts decks, hardly anyone likes giving advice on deck building, you're not allowed to talk about new UW cards/characters without being called a shill,etc. Doomposting can be a fucking relief but damn anon does it need to be done every day?
>>96630786If this damn spell targeted it would work great. Unfortunately it doesn't.
>>96630809we have finally closed the circle and joined /mtg/ in their doomposting
>>96630832Yeah, though the fact that stickers don't target actually makes them way more viable for every other strategy. It means you never get blown the fuck out by removal.
I like UB because it gives me a lot of insight into someone without them having to explicitly state their beliefs or express their personality much.>how do they feel about the LOTR set?>how do they feel about the Spiderman set?These two alone already tell you a lot about someone.
>>96630869people claim to hate UB then they get excited when their sloppa finally hits MTG
>>96630869spiderman was an abomination, Lotr was best of a worst case scenario but would still want any UW over it
>>96630869>how do they feel about the LOTR set?Perfectly fine as a one-and-done for Magic's 30th anniversary. Imagine how wild that'd be if there was just this one UB set of thee classic fantasy series.Except fuck The One Ring for being format-raping goodstuff.>spidermanI like it because it's clearly costing WotC dearly.
If you remove a creature, its controller should have its mana cost refunded in their next main phase 1, get to draw a card, then have the creature deal damage equal to its power to your face.It's unfair when my little guy that I spent 3 turns building up dies to a 1 mana card.
>win booster lottery on commander night yesterday>it’s Spider Man>it’s my first god booster in monthsFuck this shit man, where is this luck when I crack my Innistrad Remastered? At least I’ve sold half the cards in the pack already, and that Spiderverse card will be actual really cool in my Rakdos, the Muscle deck.
>>96630916>NOOOOOOOOOO YOU SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO INTERACT WITH MY GAMEPLAN YOU SHOULD JUST LET ME WIN
>>96630916I see what you're doing here but it's not really the same as counters.Countering prevents ETBs and bypasses whatever protection a card might have on the field, it also stops any non-permanents. Counters are way more powerful and versatile than any removal, so giving them a nerf by refunding mana costs would be fair, make the game more fun and still leave counters as very good anyway.
Who else in UG primary besides Brokkos and I guess Derevi has interesting cast mechanics (self graveyard recursion, cast from exile, return from your hand)
>>96630920*vomits inside your sleeves*you're welcome!
>>96630950Not UG but Hogaak.
>>96630929Yes
Can you play a viable control plan in edh that isn't stax?
>>96630869>I like UB because it gives me a lot of insight into someone without them having to explicitly state their beliefs or express their personality much.>>how do they feel about the LOTR set?>>how do they feel about the Spiderman set?LOTR was ok. Most of the legendaries were forgettable but thing ls like Mirkwood Bats are cheap staples which noone would even know its UB if you slapped an MH3 set stamp on it.Spiderman is cringe and immersion breaking.
>>96630869>how do they feel about the LOTR set?They put it in blackface.>how do they feel about the Spiderman set?It never should have been made. Along with all the other non fantasy IP
>>96630869>How do you feel about UBIt's garbage, it's invited in the smelliest of spergs, made shit art the norm, and has been tacky as fuck.
>>96630920>Spider Verse: Legends Rule doesn't apply>even though each Spider-Man is a complete individual and not a carbon copy of another, as shown in this very set0/10
>>96630869>LOTRIt had some good cards and I like TOR as a powerhouse artifact, I never really built anything from it though>SpoodrmanOutside of me and a buddy buying a single pack each and cringing the entire time, completely skipped
>>96631022I don't know if it's viable but I have very much fun controlling the table and the flow of the game a bit, regardless if I win or not
>>96629731Absolutely not, vibes and aesthetics are half the fun of a deckOn average you spend about 4x as much time looking at your cards than you do playing them in an average EDH game by the mere virtue of being a 4-player format
>>96629833I LOVE this card so fuckget bounced idiot
>>96630950I think this is all of the cast based commanders that include UG.There could be more, especially if you include things like "equal to the amount of mana spent to cast".
>>96631049>the smelliest of spergsThat would be you, perma-online maidenless 0 charisma buttcrack bandit
About to go to LGS to buy this card. What else should I buy?>>96631125Please stop posting.
>>96630869>LOTRI think it opened the floodgates to UB and people don't give it the shit it deserves for that despite it being 'okay'. I don't give two fucks about black aragorn besides thinking it was done deliberately to troll chuds by their art director and that feels vaguely fucked up.>Spider-manI think it's a shame they clearly had to stretch an aftermath set into a full set, because it's very obvious and suffers from it. 50% of the set are really fun, the other half feel really low-effort.
>>96631145Kill yourself
>>96630869>>how do they feel about the LOTR set?First UB full set release (I do not count D&D). The fact that it wasn't just some one-off commander decks irritated me and I didn't like the "community theater" feeling of the art. The draft environment was super bomb-y and un-fun. >>how do they feel about the Spiderman set?Skipped due to price point and small draft environment with shallow mechanical depth so the set did not interest me. I'll probably get a Gwenom after the hype has died down because she's got fat tits.
>>96631022You can play cost reduction commanders like Eluge or Heliod the Radiant Dawn whose game plan is mostly about using that cost reduction to draw infinity cards and win via pure advantage into commander damage /laboratory maniac/second sun/psychosis crawler, whichever works for ur gameplan
>>96631022The wincon of control isn't control, it's stall til you can wincon. This is usually not necessary in edh since it's a naturally slower format, so you're really just playong combo or battlecruiser or whatever other strategy, just with more removal/counters than usual to protect your gameplan.
>>96630039i tried to build her with some other asshole as the partner and i ended up not doing it.its just too much hassle for a simple big mana payoff to be worrth it. i ike her art though, seems gay
>>96628717Yeah nah.So saturation isn’t “brightness” it’s colour intensity. You could have a “bright” image that is just white.Dynamic range might in accurately be called “contrast”. Essentially it is your highest highs and your lowest lows. A black and white image would be completely desaturated as it contains no color but it would have high dynamic rangeAgain what you’re complaining about with the new art is that it has high dynamic range because it is digitally created. Inherently a digital canvas is able to produce stronger darks and lights than a real world piece of art which is then scanned.What youre really bitchinf about is that art isn’t made the same way it was 32 years ago. Problem is youre too stupid to know why you’re upset, but you’ve Dunning-Kruger’d yourself into thinking youre an art expert
>>96631270*might inaccurately
>>96631125Disgusting reddit filth>>96631145Sudden SubstitutionSudden SpoilingKrosan GripJust some Split Second shit
When can we get a new bunch of Slivers or Eldrazi? EoE only having 1 of each was super lame.
>>96631270>Yeah nah.>liberal arts major literally arguing against merriam websterLol. Didn't read by the way!
>>96628744>>96628747>>96628759>>96628760This guy is right >>96628760Bitterblossom is $12-$15, Bitterbloom has flash and can be reanimated. It is a strictly better print and they know it. That’s why it’s BB instead of 1B. Reminder black has no enchantment recovery, but it has plenty of reanimation. The fact that it’s a vulnerable creature basically doesn’t matter in black.
>>96631285They should make some eldrazi that have somehow negative synergy with other eldrazi cards.They're really cool, big creatures but it sucks that they can't release any more of them without just adding to the powerlevel of a deck that's already very strong and a bit obnoxious at casual tables.
>>96631283>Disgusting reddit filthwrong!And Ive been playing MTG longer than you
>>96629249>instead of telling the WotC marketing team what slop you don’t want to consume how about you tell us what slop you do want to consume?I’m anti-slop.I’m ideologically opposed to UB.I have said dozens of times in these threads that the window for me being interested in hypothetical UBs was years ago. I’ve seen what you’ve done to this game. 4/7 fucking sets next year are UB. Check the flavor text on that Jon Snow UB card we know you’re cooking up:>I dun wunt it
>>96631305>this guy (me) is right>strictly better>thats why its easier to remove>and harder to castAll these things make it strictly worse anon. It may start out overinflated due to tards like you but that'll change. Itll be like Ophiomancer a 10+ dollar card that is now 1 buck.
>>96631313They tried that with Azlask already. The problem is with the right setup (doubling season, from beyond, glaring fleshraker, etc), you could have a shitton of mana and a billion little gremlins with annihilator.
>>96631298>words can have technical meanings that are beyond my understanding??? ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhWhat was your point again?
>>96631335God I love when I get to screencap you retards
>>96631341My point is you wasted years on an education and desperately want it to be relevant when its not. The cards are by definition oversaturated, they are overly bright. What are you trying to prove beyond the fact that you are a narcissist completely out of touch with people? Youre also just wrong on a technical level which is making this entire thing doubly funny but thats neither here nor there.
>>96631329>I have said dozens of times in these threadsyes we know you linger like a bad fart. cause you have nowhere else to go
>>96631343>strictly better>states two things that literally make it strictly worseYou have no clue how to evaluate cards.
>>96631347>I MISUSED A WORD AND NOW IM MAD!!!!Oh yeah, that was your point.I already shave you an example of how a bright image could have no saturation at all. A pure white image might be “bright” but it isn’t saturated. Black-white is value not hue. Similarly, a black and white image would have high dynamic range but 0 saturation.Saturation is color intensity, which is decided by hue. What you’re picking up on is that digital art has a higher dynamic range than physical media.Cry about it as much as you want but you’re wrong and I can explain how you’re wrong. All you can do is say>b-b-but muh dictionary gave an inaccurate layman’s definition!!!!
>>96631365I didnt though. As two separate dictionaries have agreed with me. Saturated means bright. They are bright.>inaccurateIts not. You are literally using it in an entirely different context (again incorrectly lol) specific to the technicalities of digital art. But, in everyday language, saturated means bright! As i evidenced lmao. Your education was worthless and youre a retard.
>>96630103and with the last one I bounce hullbreaker back to my hand
>>96631358BB is an attempt to balance the card, but it doesn’t actually matter. Even in standard getting 2 of a color you have slashed into isn’t a problem. In Commander calling it a downside would be comical. Maybe if it was BBB you’d have a point, but it’s not, so you don’t.And being a target for removal? Everyone but red already has plenty of enchantment removal. And versatile removal at that. Cards that hit nonland permanents, cards that hit artifacts/enchantments, cards that hit creatures/enchantments. Even black has4 cards that’ll do it. Green white and blue each have about 50 or moreBut in any case, youre in fucking black. You have all the reanimation in the world. Hell, they fucking previewed Emptiness which when evoked for BB returns a creature of mana value 3 or less to your field. What’s Bitterbloom Bearer’s mana value again anon…?
>>96631383>Saturated means bright. They are bright.I explained how a bright image could be completely desaturated. Read and re-read until you are less stupid.
>>96631394>plenty of enchantActually only white and green have plenty of enchantment removal. Red and black have a very small handful of cards, even smaller when playable. And blue can bounce them for the most part. Oh also>non edh formatsDon't have the same luxury.>its fixed.... thats why its somehow better!Schizophrenia
>>96631404>Actually only white and green have plenty of enchantment removal. Red and black have a very small handful of cards, even smaller when playable. And blue can bounce them for the most partLiterally all of this is restating what I said. The only difference here is that you’re trying to say bouncing isn’t removal, which it is.>>non edh formatsDon't have the same luxury.Duskmourn was all about enchantments and enchantment removal and is going to remain in Standard for years.Other formats are eternal and so don’t have problems accessing removal.Plus, a card only being good in Commander can still be enough to justify a high price You have no arguments. Youre argumentless
>>96629249Magic VS CapcomHalf-Universes Within Hat Set, Half-Universes Beyond, with the Magic characters chosen off of how interesting they'd be in a fighting game and the Capcom characters chosen off of who'd be most interesting in a card game.Non-Legendary creatures from Monster Hunter, Resident Evil, Dead Rising, Devil May Cry and Mega Man so it's not just 100 legendaries in common rarity.Fighting game non-canon logic, so dead in-lore characters can show up or cameo in card arts.Introduces enemy colored battlebond lands.
>>96631421Anon you are literally years late to that.
>>96631421>Magic characters chosen off of how interesting they'd be in a fighting gameSo. Who are they?
>>96631421>Zero is a 1-drop that ruins every format because he's so cheap>Vergil is just Murktide Regent on steroids because he also has haste, prowess, and double strike
>>96631401Okay? The colors are bright. Therefore its saturated, as per the definition of the word. Cry all you want im sure your wasted degree will soak em up well.
>>96631421this seems to be the plan for Reality Facture
>>96631250Honestly, it's purely to satisfy this color combo for the 32 deck challenge. I'm doing her and Elmar, since I don't like every other not-white arrangement, and since I've never liked Cascade, Yidris was already not an option. Kinda helps that none of my other decks do the "cast big spells for free" trick, so at least it's something new
>>96631421Holy fucking reddit
>>96631419>everyone but red>only white and green>ermmmm youre just restating what I saidNo, in no way did that happen anon.>bouncing isnt removalCertainly is, just not very good removal.>inane babbling about other formatsMost have very limited card pools anon, and those that dont have very cutthroat deck slots.>good in commander justifies pricesNot for standard releases im afraid.You haven't addressed anything I've said by the way.
>>96631450The colors have high dynamic range, they are not saturated. Saturation is determined by the hue not the value
>>96631421>Magic characters chosen off of how interesting they'd be in a fighting gameUgh, I hope Loot makes the set
>>96631457Okay firstly>MaRo now mainlining a UW set after saying just months ago that UW was being scrappedLmaoSecondly>4 out of 7 sets next year are UB and 1 out of the remaining 3 is a 120 card UWI PUSH MY FINGERS INTO MY EYEEEEES
>>96631480>everyone but red>only white and green>ermmmm youre just restating what I said>No, in no way did that happen anon.>bouncing isnt removal>Certainly is, just not very good removalYoure contending that I didn’t say these things when I did right here >>96631394>And being a target for removal Everyone but red already has plenty of enchantment removal. And versatile removal at that. Cards that hit nonland permanents, cards that hit artifacts/enchantments, cards that hit creatures/enchantments. Even black has4 cards that’ll do it. Green white and blue each have about 50 or moreThe only thing you’ve added to this is to bitch that bouncing isn’t GOOD removal, and that depends. You haven’t actually disagreed with a single thing I said
>>96629764Final Fantasy has it's own ongoing TCG, trust the pattern. Hearthstone must be in it's twilight days for new opportunities to shine.
>get an incredible idea for a deck>spend a few days working on it on Moxfield> spend about four days finding cards and then two days on cuts >have nine cards left to cut when I suddenly remember that the Commander is part of your starting deck, so I can't have a 5 cmc commander with Lurrus as the companionfuck, man, how did I forget that for an entire week? I already have a deck with a companion. I was so excited about this deck, too. There's no way to fix this either, I can't switch to a different commander to get most of the same effect. I'm super bummed.
>>96629764> I still cant get skeleton support even in anon's fake UB cards
>>96631457>bolas is responsible creating fleemFuck that gay dragon.
>>96631553It’s okay anon, Companions fucking suck since the errata anyway
>>96631540yeah but nobody, and I mean nobody, cares about it
>>96631421I suppose he's in the Bant precon?
>>96629249I hope you get ass cancer
>>96631556is it so hard to make a legendary that gives skeletons persist/undying?
just put skeletal swarming in the command zone, or better yet, skeletal swarmer
>>96631457this is the most rancid and most creatively bankrupt thing ive read in a while
Which site do you guys use for custom cards?I'd like one that lets me edit the set symbol and is easy to use.
>>96630942Counterspells are also restricted by having a far more narrow timing window, and as of now, being more expensive than other forms of spot removal. You should not be entitled to guaranteed value every time you cast a spell, because that's how we got put in this mess of aggro decks that constantly trade up to removal.
Soon.
>>96631602https://cardconjurer.app/
>>96631590I like this and could see this being a real card as long as it's like 5 or 6 mana as opposed to 3
>>96631590Someone post that meme of the exponential growth creature cuz this would be it and I'm fucking HERE for it
Best commander for a Roman empire themed deck?
>>96631667caesar but he's not fallout
>just cut the high CMC cardsNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>96631674
>>96631674Just add the high CMC cards
>>96631674>>96631696>tfw I can't build a deck with an exponential manacurve
>>96631613That site kinda sucks it doesn't even have adaptive frames
Any card more than 4 CMC is unviable
>>96631705make a deck with a mana valley
>>96631728Remove these, add in a ton of 0-cost cards, and we're in business.
>>96631735I like 2drops
Reminder that you, yes YOU, the commander player is to blame for the state of Magic.This is YOUR FAULT.
>>96631674Play Eldrazi my dude. My Zhulodok deck is literally nothing but ramp and 7+ mana big Timmy machines.
>>96631749Probably, I made enough UBtards cry in pods I play in to make them dig their heels in and throw more money at WOTC. forgive me /edhg/
>>96631751I can do that? Just play fatties?
>>96631764if all else fails, just play a busted commander to tie it all together
>>96631764That's basically it. Zhulodok wants 7+ cmc spells so yoy can cascade out the ass. You ideally don't want anything smaller because all that will do is either fail to proc the cascade upon being played, or it will be a waste of a cascade.
>>96631764If you ramp hard enough, you can play anything you want
>his deck doesn't have a couple fun slotsNgmi
>>96631790I will then. I'll just ramp and play fatties. To hell with removal and CA shits gay anyway.
>>96631705You can. (Minus 4 cmc ramp)
>>96631806>a coupleIf your deck doesn't have at least 10 cards that do fun, neat things to bring joy to others at the table, you're playing Magic wrong
>>96631830Remove nearly all 4cmc cards, put them in the 8 column, and baby, now you have a stew goin
>Xir deck has cards that cost less than 4ngmi
>>96631749I have only bought precons of standard sets (particularly the first ones that cost 20 bucks), prereleases of standard sets, and penny singles.
>>96631841The 4cmc are all ramp that you need for the deck to function, sadly. 7 mana on turn 4.
>>96631759You're a fool.This isn't your fault because you made some kids playing with UB cards cry and buy more cards. Your sin is playing Commander.Every single UB product has been aimed at commander players. So many of the design mistakes of magic in the past several years have been WotC designing for commander. If you name a problem with the current state of Magic the Gathering, and trace that problem back to its roots, it all leads back to one thing. Commander.And you know what the worst part is? There is nothing you can do anymore. Magic is fucked over. And it's your fault.
>>96631834What a weird nogames standard>>96631844>2cmc card posted>it cared about 4 powerMight actually be a chat botpost
>>96631917you play ruby on 2, a 4cost ramp spell on 3, and then you'll have plenty mana for every card in your deck and no dead draws
Thick dead wife
>>96631917It's a 2 mana dork.Turn 1 nothingTurn 2 dorkTurn 3 explosive vegetationTurn 4 7 mana
>>96631923who did it better?
>Meren And Aerith 1WBGLegendary Creature - Human Cleric DruidLifelinkWhenever another creature you control dies, and whenever you gain life, you get an experience counter. This triggers only once per turn.At the beginning of your end step, choose target creature in your graveyard. If that card's mana value is less than or equal to the number of experience counters you have, or if you've gained 7 or more life this turn, return it to the battlefield. Otherwise, put it in your hand.4/4
>>96631981>>Meren And AerithThe day the blood-brain barrier is broken and UB is not only playable in Magic but canonically part of the same multiverse with in-universe characters meeting UB characters, the game will instantly die from an aneurysm
>Brokkos and Sephiroth, Fallen Hero WUBRG>Eminence - Whenever you create a creature token, you may mutate Sephrioth and Brokkos onto the token from any zone.
We're past bump limit, last chance to answer the TQ!For me its Asian Jim xD
>>96631888>Every single UB product has been aimed at commander players.Oh. Why is it legal in Standard then? Why are Standard players buying it instead of boycotting?
>>96632073You amused me. Here's your (You).
>>96632081Competitive format players can't help themselves, especially the ones who are trying make name for themselves at events or pro tournaments.
I love the EDH format but i would never ever play it
>>96631918>>96631926Its cowardice.
Thinking about making a custom commander to get printed as a high quality proxy some time in the future.This is my rough idea so far, basically Hatred as a creature in a way that's in line with her ingame mechanics.Anything you guys would add or change to make it more interesting?
>>96632194>Hatred in the command zoneYou know it's like 50bux nowadays, yeah?
>>96632202It's like 18-20 but yeah maybe 5 mana is too for a commander with that effect
>>96632216*too lowThen again Vivi exists so i really don't feel like this is beyond current powercreep.
>>96632216The illegal version is, the normal version is 30+. My point stands
>>96632225No I looked at the legal version, but I'm in EU where it's cheaper.In non-english I could get it for as little as 12€
>>96631888Designing for commander really did ruin this game. Well, more so the paypiggy floodgates it opened.I'd love UW-only equivalents of each format (including EDH), but fragmentation like that kills already struggling communities, and I'd rather not lose Legacy. PreDH, Old School, and friends are a novel approach, but aren't the answer because they will get fully solved as netdecking continues its meteoric rise.It really does suck.
>>96627905Considering the amount of new cards/sets being spoilered, I expect a decent amount of funny mtg related pictures. Pls post them for my collection.
>>96632194Just Greven without the hoops
>>96632224>Then again Vivi exists so i really don't feel like this is beyond current powercreep.The most broken cards shouldn't be the measuring stick for what is acceptable.Just print a million Nadus if thats how you want the game to be
>finally won a game with the deck I been cooking and recooking for a whileIt was a definitive win, no one got a chance
>>96629922ponder is a sorcery
>>96628200The Ashia is funny. A Universe Beyond alt art of a Universe Within of a Universe Beyond.
>>96628334I don't care about Fallout but fuck The Master is fun to play. The way he changes the color of the creature can have some interesting interactions as well.
>>96628351cedh content farm doesnt mean shit they were saying the same shit about lumra and lands like 4 months ago and blue farm's still top despite being consistently piloted by the biggest dumbfucks. etali wins by just playing 3 different blue farms at once.
>>96632309what deck?
what are some decent non creature land ramp options in izzet, if there are any?
>>96632472There's cards that turn into lands like Search for Azcanta, The Everflowing Well, Brass's Tunnel Grinder, etc
>>96632472Stuff like Bauble/the Maps. Sad Robot is another, whatever its name is
>>96632437
>>96632509solemn simulacrumterrain generator is another neutral land ramp piece
>>96632194does this character actually have a lot of hatred? what is your reason for her innately having such a spiteful effect?
>>96632503forgot about those flip cards, but those dont work good well in a spell slinger shell though.>>96632514i love my pasty golelm but>noncreatureTerrain Generator is a good one, never saw that before
>>96632472you're not going to find a ton, but remember that artifact ramp is still 'noncreature spells' if that's what your commander wants to see
>>96632544>those dont work good well in a spell slinger shell though.truthough, everflowing well is okay in most decks simply because it's a 3 mana draw 2 on top of turning into a land. If you have graveyard synergy and/or can make use of the land's special effect that's gravy but not necessary to get your mana's worthAlso, don't forget myriad landscape and temple of the false god
>>96632176What happens when your commander dies (and it will cause it's not just a dork)?
>>96632040What are you talking about
>>96632540In the game she has very low base attack but becomes massively powerful by consuming her own HP, being particularly strong at low HP so she's kind of a high-risk high-reward character.I figured the hatred effect simulates that very well, it encapsulates her HP management aspect and it's very risky to do in commander since if i use all my HP to kill someone, the other two could easily finish me off.
>>96632706nta but a better effect would be a repeatable activated ability that gives +1/-1 until EoT, since that's technically how she works in the game
>>96629129Makes sense to me.No clue why people want red besides his outfit. Peter isn't red at all and he sure isn't black.>people who wanted Izzet Peter even though he is white mana as fuck idealist
>>96632652>just a dorkYoure not very good at magic im afraid we are not in the same tier.
>>96629763I don't hate this art desu
>>96632742They're fucking incredible and I'm not going to pretend otherwise.
>>96631305bitterblossom was like 50 until it got double/triple reprint in eldraine. Its price is because it got reprinted.When it hadn't been the thing was demonic tutor price
>>96629249Return to rabiah >>96630206This but Velma has to be chubby and slutty
>>96630068Every card from that secret lair is cringe except for him
>>96632732Maybe, but i feel like having an effect that drains my own life to empower her, while less directly accurate, does embody the feel of playing her better.In Genshin you don't have a lifebar separate from your characters after all, you just lose when their HP bars empty out.
>>96632734>No clue why people want red besides his outfitvisual cohesion matters, the outfit is a good enough reason(this is, btw, another reason UBshit isn't magic)
>>96630068esper "exalted"
Best group slug/group burn commander?
>>96632759I know how the game works, I play it. Having Hatred on a stick is too much, imo
FUCK YEAH
>>96629763Ew
>>96632767>group burnIt's not even close.
>>96629731Me when they make an UB skin for some commander
>>96632770>Having Hatred on a stick is too much, imoIs it really, though? On a 5 mana creature that doesn't have haste? You need a lot of enablers to make a win out of that
>>96632770Yeah I agree with you and the other anon, for just 5 mana i probably overtuned her.Maybe at 6-7 it would be more fair? Or with a mana cost on top of the life pay activation?
>>96632789>that doesn't have haste?Are you actually fucking serious? She's in red, and you're saying this???>You need a lot of enablersYou need ONE, and there's like.. hundreds??
>>966315403/3 is pretty punny for garrosh
>>96632789rogue's passage isn't that much setup. especially since you can use it to cast her on turn 5 (or 4) and then activate it the next turn without another land drop.why does she need first strike and menace?
>>96632763Terrible opinion only held by numagic players
>>96632787The ub skins rarely make sense
Why the fuck are they doing a furby l->Owner: Tiger/HasbroAh
>>96632821This was established a year or more ago buddy
>>96632821someone post the wikipedia list of brands hasbro owns toy rights to>>96632829good work
>>96632829>Still no fucking Power Rangers cardsDoes Hasbro just, like, actually hate Power Rangers?
>>96632799I should mention I'm not the guy who posted it originallyBut seriously, how many "target creature deals damage equal to power to all opponents" effects are there? There's chandra's ignition, which makes it a 2-card 10 mana win the game combo (and there are a number of other such combos in the game right now for that rate). What else? >>96632813I mean yes you can do that but then the other players will just kill you because you'll have no life left.
>>96632833"co-product" probably means there's some extra contractual stuff in there that makes it so they can't just do anything they want with it.
>>96632844Hasbro owns the Power Rangers IP, though, just fully. The Toei thing is because of Super Sentai and Toei handles it in Asian markets, but Hasbro owns the franchise.
>>96632813I'm the one who made the card not that anon, menace is flavor since people in-universe often perceive her as offputting and creepy, also i think an evasion ability makes sense since her dodge animation makes her phase through an enemy.I thought first strike would be cool because for one, the way you play her is by spamming powerful charge attacks that hopefully kill everything quickly, she's not a character that can really stand there and trade hits unless you shield her with another character, but I also thought it makes for an interesting gameplay interaction that if she swings big, you essentially need to sac two creatured to block her, no more because they'd die pointlessly due to first strike and no less because of menace.I guess you could say that's kinda flavor too because she's not good at AOE and can only hit a small amount of enemies at a time.
>>96632844Didn't stop them with Transformers, and the Japs will license anything to anyone for any purpose so I doubt they're being cagey.Maybe it's just slated for 2027.I'll make an updated roadmap meme now we've seen the real 2026
>>96632841you know you don't have to spend 40 life to kill someone with commander damage, right?
>>96632856This card doesn't do commander damage anon.
>>96631457Where is this so-called leak?
>>96632869two different thoughts, it lets him do damage to the other opponents and works on the rogue's passage swing without costing more mana. additionally he makes 3x back if he does something like vampiric link before the swing.killing people with commander damage means he's paying 20 and not 40, so he's not risking dying to gut shot.
>>96632831Do you think that's how licenses work? If you have a toy license you can do anything? Cards aren't toys and a star trek toy license does not give you a star trek cardboard license or video game license.This is literally why Spider-man got the omenpath shit. They have a license for cardboard and not video games.Fuck, in the 90's marvel was handing out vidya licenses based on specific game genres like RPG.
>>96632829>hasbro owns Jurassic parkhow are they have money troubles with a trillion dollar film franchise?
>people really think if you have a license to make Jurassic park toys then you own the property and can make anything JP relatedThey wouldn't even had needed a license for spidey if that was the case because they already do spidey figures.
>>96632856anon statted it with 1 power, so you'd still have to spend 20 lifeand it's reeeeeeal easy to die from 20 life in a turn cycle at 5-6 mana, even against 2 players. You could give it lifelink with a third card, but at that point you're playing an 8+ mana 3+ card combo for the win, which is... fine? There are plenty of cheaper ways to win and for fewer cards. not to mention it's a creature with no innate haste and no innate protection from removal which makes you a target as soon as you play it. It'd be a decently strong card but I don't see it being busted.
>>96632856you could win every casual commander game just running this guy and insurrection effects.
>>96632856Doesn't deal commander damage. However, it does work with infect.
>>96632914as said by that other anon, that's not a problem in red. generator servant even lets you get her out turn 3.>>96632976there's someone here who has falthis/kediss threaten tribal>>96632977addressed already. kediss is for "deal power to each opponent," the text is for the second reply.
Why is that Spidey set being shit on?
>>96633004>there's someone here who has falthis/kediss threaten tribalYes hello good morning. It's great fun punching people with their own commanders. It also has (almost) only all legendary creatures too to take advantage of Heroes' Podium
>>96633010Most of the cards are both bad and not very mechanically interesting, also many people have terrible capeslop fatigue.
>>96633010Because it's just not a very interesting set. It clearly suffered from changing from a small non-draftable set to a 'smaller but draftable' set and it didn't feel like it really captured a lot of the general notions of what people love about Spider-Man, a lot of the card designs feel generic, etc.
>>96633010It's actually incredible how mediocre it is. There's probably less than 10 good cards in the whole set
>>96633010and in addition to what people said, it's a heavy tribal set, but doesn't work because people who enjoy spider tribal don't like the idea of playing spiderman cards
>>96633010Mostly because it's just a bad boring overpriced set, secondarily because people have UB fatigue and tertiarily because a lot of people are sick of superheroes
>>96633049when i think of spider tribal this is who i think of
>>96633051>a lot of people are sick of superheroesThey are going to make the marvel set next year blatantly overpowered to force people to buy it aren't they? the other infinity gems are going to be so tuned up they're One Ring tier
>>96633062>They are going to make the marvel set next year blatantly overpowered to force people to buy it aren't they?When in doubt, double down on your mistakesIt's the corporate way
Okay a lot of you told me Vivi is broken in commanderIf I struggle to find games or people neglect to play games with me as a result of using him (even though I've aimed not to make the decks with him broken) I've got a backup commanderI just primarily want to win games with lots of spellcasts, I don't actually like directly attacking much with creatures
>>96633062Probably not, no. I think people overestimate how much people hate superheroes. It's MCU fatigue, and the set clearly lifts a BIT from the MCU (in-as-much as the comics themselves have done MCU synergy, like Nick Fury's secret son who looks exactly like the Ultimate version replacing him) but it's meant to be based on the comics themselves, so who knows.
>>96633068I think most people will still play you if you use Vivi unless they're giant faggots.Probably should be declared a game changer tho.
>>96633058hideous art
>>96633068i play against vivi playersi just kill the commander on sight
>>96633071Sidenote I hope "Fantastic Four" and "Heroes for Hire" being cards all on their own doesn't mean each individual member isn't getting cards, because it'd be kinda shitty to have five Peter Parkers and not even really one Luke Cage.
>>96633071Anon, 99% of people who have heard of superheroes have never read a single cape comic in their lives, and modern day cape comics are so terrible even if they gave it a shot they'd never try it againthe MCU is the only way most people even know these character, if they go heavy in on comic-only stuff with B or C listers literally nobody will buy that set
>>96633075I mean, I'm just going to never attack with any creatures when I use Vivi to make it a little more enjoyable. I'll just stick to instants, sorceries, artifacts and creatures with useful abilities. Only to block with them.Hopefully everyone's on board with that style of play, and they feel that's a little more enjoyable.>>96633084Yeah I'm prepared for that, I got a lot of cards I'll be testing and trying out to mitigate that. I don't want to insta-win games either, which is why I've elected to make a stalling deck to build Vivi up.
>>96633092I mean the MCU-known stuff will be the focus of the marketing push, but it will have a lot of comics-only shit.I just want Darkhawk, man. Maybe he'd be in a Cosmic set though.
Post his card. U/W of course.
Fuck it, I'm baking new and literally no one can stop me
>>96633097they still have to think about their international market as welland I can promise you this, outside of the US literally not a god damn person reads marvel comics
>>96633101>Captain Picard, Ready to Engage>2WU>Tea. Earl Grey. Hot. - When Captain Picard enters, make a Food token>Make It So - When Captain Picard becomes tapped, target creature or Spacecraft you control gets +2/+2 until end of turn>2/3I dunno I'm just throwing shit together.
I find funny how every spaniard guy i met hate the "native" representation of ixalan but fucking love every single vampire from the same set
>>96633113because conquistadors are megabased and aztecs are both evil AND losers
>>96633110Tea, Earl Grey, Hot will be an artifact card goes perfect with Bagel and shmear
>>96633068>vivi nigger>reddit spacinglike clockwork
It's up, migrate whenever>>96633114>>96633114>>96633114
>>96633101{2}{W}{U}When a creature you control stations, draw a cardWhen a spacecraft you control enters the battlefield or attacks, tap target permanent an opponent controls and put a stun counter on itPartner with The Enterprise(I have never watched any star trek)
>>96633118I see it more likely being flavour text for "Food Replicator" or something.
>>96633079Insanely bad taste
>>96632472Cloning Solemn Simulacrum's probably your first and last stop
>>96633113WotC thinks all south americans are mexicans, when Mexico is the second most hated country after Argentina
>>96633124>(I have never watched any star trek)Shows. Picard is a diplomat so really shouldn't get bonuses for attacking. Will anyone at Wizards care? Probably not
>>96633135How do you really reflect diplomacy in a combat game though?
>>96633128>old thing GOOD
>>96633142
>>96633071>No one likes super heroesYou do know the entire 90's generation grew up with tons of spider-man games and a super popular TV show, right?Most of you are too young to have been alive during this and cannot comprehend nostalgia for this stuff. You just connect everything to some movie franchise.
>>96633153only in the US though, rest of the world not so muchand they're not even doing xmen which was like the biggest 90's superhero show
>>96633152That works for a pacifistic debating scholar. Picard PREFERS diplomacy, but he's very much willing to fight if needed.
>>96633135I knew he was supposed to be more peaceful, so that's why I went with stun counter rather than stat bonus or w/e. Maybe you could replace it with a "cut a deal" type effect where everyone draws but you draw more?>>96633142vote cards have been around for a while anon>>96633153I sincerely hope I never become a memberberries addictIt looks so disgusting and pitiful from the outside
>>96633160X-Men's likely getting its own set (Wolverine's the only X-Men thing we've seen in the art for Super Heroes so far and that's because Wolverine is in every fucking team).
>>96633174so that's 3 infinity stoneswhat other marvel IP's will get their own dedicated set, one stone for each set after all
>>96633187They can, in fact, do more than one Stone per set. Chances are we're getting either one more set (X-Men) or two (X-Men and Cosmic) and they'll be split among those (if it's two more, I can see Super Heroes having 2, X-Men having 1 and Cosmic having the last 2 and the Gauntlet).
>>96630809buddy if we can't get mad about UB on UB announcement day then you're just saying we can't get mad about it
"U-Ugin- Please! Everyone is watching!""Let them watch, Nicol. All that matters right now is you and me."
>>96627905Is there a reason Commander seems more popular than playing competitive/tournament formats?t. Non MTG player
>>96634424A) it's a lot cheaper, partly because it's singleton, partly because it's more casual, and partly because it's an eternal format, so your deck won't be obsolete in a few monthsB) It is more casual, making it less threatening to noobsC) Being 4-player, it is more social than 1v1 and thus easier to get your friends into (and get into if you have friends who play)D) This is more subjective but I find the deckbuilding and rules to be just generally more interesting. There's more you can do in commander, both with your deck and on the table
