Work in Progress "Early Halloween" Edition>Full-on /WIP/ OP Links Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/BE42AEcD>WIP Tutorial Images Megahttps://mega.nz/#F!TvQFCaLb!w8WZKCcOsTRasxrI0JWezw>Saint Duncan's "Six Things I Wish I Knew When I Started Painting"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufP8ka3KGno>Saint Duncan also explains thinning your paintshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxWgsqSf74s>Paint thinning 102https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBDVPoNXyVI>4 EASY Chipping Tricks For Beginnershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku4comhKHJM>Decal Like a Prohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYKLiEW7p9c>How to Edge Highlighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoRbYuAfbEk>How to use contrast style paintshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhholrozptI>How to Paint with Tremorshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqp76vAJu9g>Airbrush Priming and Thinninghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkntrSBvXxEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGjBQzoukFghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00JVUxABe44https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEqT_R41JX8>Who's Johnny, she'd say, and smile in her special wayhttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Johnny>Previous Threads:>>96624310>>96605759>>96579422
>>96650158huh, those look neat.
Let's be honest, 90% of Contrast/Speed Paint/whatever paint jobs look exactly like that.They should be a tool and not the whole arsenal"dark colour over white undercoat" always gives away the game too, reminds me of the 90s and not in a good way
>>96650316Contrast paints are shit because no matter what I can tell within a split second of looking at a model that it was slopped with contrast.They are a meme because GW found a way to make retards pay double price for paint that is thinned down twice as much (giving less pigment per dollar) AND anyone with the skill to salvage contrast paint in their process as "just another tool in the box" ends up with something identical to what they would have if they just used their normal paints with no steps saved in the process, still needing to pre highlight the undercoat and then go back over and apply hades and highlights over the contrast anyway.
>>96650316>>96650346This is a samefag trying to stir shit up, btw.
>Contrast paints
You need to go back, retard-kun.
>>96650346I like them in some ways because you can use them like inks but they have a thicker consistency. I have some old Citadel Inks and I love the smellBut I wouldn't paint a whole miniature with them. Not in the way GW says.Maybe as a thicker wash yes but not for painting by numbers>>96650361Not the case lad
>>96650316I don't mind them but in very limited use cases. Like contrast paints for lights on my terrain and such.
>>96650316>>96650346Let's see the quality of your models, anons.
>>96650465Sure
>>96650316Its a useful tool i think.
>>96650491>didn't even bother to change the facebook filenamecome on now
Coming back to question from previous thread about casting and resin - anyone here worked with GSW UV resin and could tell me how to possibly reduce the viscosity? I assume that I couldn't get rid of air bubbles, even after poking them with wire or subjecting mold to vibrations from massager, because resin itself is too thick and that's what prevents air from escaping or bubbles from bursting. Inb4 "why not using normal epoxy/etc resin" - I use that UV resin in combination with their reusable mold material precisely to avoid fumes from normal resins (and since their mold material is transparent, UV resin can be cured that way). Only other way I can imagine is to include multiple channels to help air escape while I inject resin (no longer just pouring it, I take one of those single use syringes and slowly inject it into mold) but again, with high viscosity, air bubbles might get stuck again, not to mention problems with removal later.Sorry for trouble, just trying to figure out solution.
Made a piece of scatter terrain from rope, the base still needs a second PVA coat. what kind of flocking material would you recommend for the leaves?
>>96650720how about diluted pva from spray bottle to stiffen them ropes firstif you flock them as they are now it will just flake off little by little because there is no supporting structure remember you are making these not for show but for use, they will see hard playtime and countless transfers from storage to table and from table to storage
>>96650887I already coated them in runny pva, that is why they are able to stand upright.
>>96650629if you want to remove bubbles from resin you need a vacuum chamber. you could also maybe try a centrifuge.
>>96650919Lmao, you're trying to bullshit people who know what they're looking at.For fuck's sake go get a handful of twigs, it'll look a million times better than your floppy twine.
onward to shading silver. Thinking reddish brown ink from the rear so they're silver one way and gold the other
>>96651421what did they do?
>>96651421>tapingCoward!
>>96650316I only use this method when I'm in a rush. I'm currently painting for someone else, to help him finish his army, and he wants it finished quickly. Half the army is already painted and I've been asked to complete the rest in the same scheme. I'm not impressed by the previous paint job but I have to match it as best I can, so I'm using this method. I may do a bit of dry brushing over the contrast to try and add some more layers, so it doesn't look as terrible. I wish I could just strip the whole army and redo all of it nicely but I'm not paying for it, so I understand.
>>96651503naughty spaceships get the cone of shame
>>96651421This is cool. We don't get much BFG here.
Finished up this month's project, a box of miscast minis from Wargame Exclusive.
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>>96652168Posted these before, but for completionist's sake...
>>96652180And a shot of everything from this month.
>>96652183neati also took a shot of everything i did this monthfuck
>>96652286grim, got a laugh out of me tho
>>96652286Awesome job, anon. I especially like the white highlights.
>>96650420>old vallejo paintsTake me back. I regret missing out. I called the reporter of bubbles a bubble schizo, I said it was a skill issue. Time proved that nigga right.Did Vallejo quietly fix the problem? It has been a good amount of years.
>>96652408Funnily enough there's a discussion going on in /40kg/ and it starts to appear that it might only be the new game color that's shit. I also got called names here for mentioning the bubbles btw, dunno why people got so defensive over Vallejo.
>>96652424>dunno why people got so defensive over VallejoProbably because Vallejo at the time was a very respected brand and practically a household name.Just guessing.
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>>96652424>dunno why people got so defensive over VallejoBecause the first guy to bring it up was an obnoxious sperg about it, poisoning the discussion.
>>96650316nicely painted army >>> basic pitch contrast paintjobs >>> greytide >>>>>>>>>>> (You)
>>96652424>/40kg/>got called names>dunnoWho can fathom the machinations of those lowbrow degenerates? They're not kulchurd like us ladz in WIP or over in GROG.
>>96651093Both sadly out of my reach. I assume that since shaking intensively helped with mold material itself, it would help here as well but only removed smallest bubbles, big ones remained where they are. Thanks anyway.
>>96652776Thisthe slappiest choppiest paintjob is still preferable to the greytide
>about to start painting my first models>already primedI'm going for a simple jobjust going to paint base colours but was thinking about doing some dry brush to get some lights and bordersalso maybe a washwhat order should I use those things in?base paint -> wash -> dry brush?also why is contrast painting so used now? I know it's fast but isn't normal painting better?
>>96653083>base paint -> wash -> dry brush?try both washing before and after, see what efect you like more, and remember than a wash doesn't need to go all over all the time, you can put it just in the shadows without touching the highest parts>also why is contrast painting so used now? I know it's fast but isn't normal painting better?because its formulated to give you the result of a base layer + wash + some highlights in one go over a zenital or bright primer, see the orc above, it can give a mediocre finished result by itself or speed up regular paintjobssome constrast paints are actually good at just being a nice base colorthey can also be diluted and use as washes, filters or glazes i shade my bronze with ap dark wood for example because is a very nice colorbut yeah, mostly nothing you can't do with regular paints/washes/inks
>>96653083>base paint -> wash -> dry brush?That's about right. If you're going to be applying a wash all over and not just in the recesses you might want to relayer your basecoats to get back some vibrancy. Go watch any Duncan Rhodes video, they're really good when starting out.>also why is contrast painting so used now? I know it's fast but isn't normal painting better?I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not just trying to shitpost like the fags at the start of the thread. Speedpainting of all kinds got popular because a lot of people just want to get their minis ready for tabletop and they don't actually enjoy painting. If you want to actually improve as a painter the "traditional" approach is much better and using speedpaints/contrasts as washes, filters or glazes instead of basecoats.
>>96653083>>96653153btw if you fell for the meme of priming black you can forget contrasts, i would even recoment to reprime in a light gray if you are starting out, painting over black is one of the worst experiences as a begginner
>>96653153>>96653156>>96653161thanks a lot anons, this really helps>>96653153that's cool, I have 6 models ready to try different techniques on them>>96653156>I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not just trying to shitpost like the fags at the start of the thread.don't worry, I wasn't shitposting. It's just that I have a friend who also paints models and bragged about painting a lot and getting cool resulsts. Recently he told me he mostly uses contrast paints, and after realizing what that meant, I don't like how they look.Also, it feels like it ignores the beauty of painting.I don't plan on using them, at least as a main resource.>>96653161they're black as fuck lolI can try to give them a layer of gray or white, or even a heavy dry brush of gray.
Wip dragon.
>>96650158my wife and MIL eat a fuckton of those tangerine altoids and I've got like 36 empty tins lying around cause I feel like I could make something from themAnybody have any terrain ideas I can use them for?
>>96653373Maybe post a pic?
>>96653261that's a proper snakey drakeyABANDON ALL DELUSIONS OF CONTROL
>>96652168Splooging her face was a mistake.
>>96653373the rounds ones? toxic pools, fountains maybe?you could stack them to make a silo or deposit tooi use similar boxes to store my basing materials
>>96653161>painting over black is one of the worst experiences as a begginnerIncorrect.
wipfor the smoke I was going to drybrush a bluish gray and wash the inner details with tesseract glow, but I'm open to suggestions.
>>96653508I still need to paint the space marine arm, I painted the extra Krieg bits individually before sticking them on.
>>96653521and from the front
Did I fuck up the cape highlights?
>>96653691looks fine
>>96653691Could go higher in place. Also need a transition for that straight line you're done down.
>>96650316I think that image looks pretty good.
>>96653531updateI love this fat fuck
I bought some nurglings for my Chaos Knights but I wanted them to be more tech than Nurgle so Ive been making it look like they stole some wardog heads. I think the plan is to paint them in metallics, maybe some candy reds or something to break it up. I think they look really fun to have on the table.
>>96653778Ya, that's what I was thinking. I was mixing different amounts of kakophany purple into burgundy, but I didn't even go past 50% in the mix. You can sort of see what I was trying to on the other sections, which was using short horizonal lines to sort of half-ass glaze the harsh lines away. I'm considering going over most of it with my base color again and starting fresh on the highlights.
>>96653852cute little gribblers
>>96653852>mechani-nurglethis is a theme I can get behind.techpriests with the whole deathguard look of guts and gore leaking out of their cyborg bits would be a great aesthetic.a great mech-unclean one aesthetic.
Extremely early WIP, but I just started kitbashing the Invictor to something more sensible, WHILE trying to retain the ability to open/close the cockpit as with the original, and I've been having a blast so far
>>96653852cute!
Lil bro over here looking like a 4 foot tall brick wall
These things, whatever they are, (shoulder guard? Knee guard? Helmet crest??) from the empire kits just so happened to fit practically perfectly as pauldrons on this guy. He's part of the command retinue, a bodyguard. I think it looks pretty cool. Gonna sculpt on some straps for the pauldrons and I think these will be pretty cool. While metal minis are monopose like this you can add to them and give them your own personal touches. I enjoy it on occasion.
>>96653986prepare for titanfall
>>96653986looks much better already. the original was still baby carrier tier, insane that they didn't learn their lesson
>>96653852>Oi, boss!>One o'them mecha'scrowtz iz caught up in da wheel well again!>OI TOL' YOU NAW'TA RUN 'DOSE TINGS OVAH, YA KRUMPIN' MORON!>>96654017>>96654027very Farquaad pilled.>he hoofed und he poofed und he...signed an eviction notice...
>>96653893About a third of the Gellerpox Infected models have that theme in case you weren't aware of those
>>96654056The big guys are closest to what I had in mind, the little skull guys look like they're part of the local Necron fanclub.
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I'm working on my first mini :)
trying colored metallics for these new chorfs. looking for input on the sash and weapon haft though, is the all-reds look good or should I go with a more contrasting tone like a dark jade
>>96653027no its really not
>>96653893I want to do something for Beasts of Nurgle to fit the theme, but I dont really know what I can even use. I would love something like a venomcrawler, but it needs to be able to fit on a 60mm base. Does anyone have any ideas? I'd like it to be more mechanical than meat if possible, even if it's a STL
>>96654296Correct, Grey Tide at least bears the promise of potential, contrast slop is an utterly final commitment to the least effort possible.
Next round of shadowkeepers
>>96650629One common technique for removing air from resin pours is hitting the surface with a heatgun/blow dryer. You could try that.
WIP - so I'm trying to get better. Not sure if what I'm doing is actually making myself better but not gonna let myself flatline.>the spot on the chest annoys the fuck out of me>to my eyes IRL its smooth and shiny but the camera makes it look like.. that?
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>>96654793>>96654798>>96654803VS one of my better models.
>>96654468Looks nice. Are you keeping the black? Black and gold is working for me.
>>96654106I know it's a meme, but you really need to thin your paints.
I can't decide on my basing scheme for a dwarf regiment that's going to be a group of models with varying color schemes. Idea is that they're wanderers/mercs/lost that take in any of their kind and go sailing around fucking shit up. I was going to have a totally different basing scheme to differentiate them, but now I'm thinking, shouldn't I just unify them with the rest of my army?
>>96653489trying to paint any bright color on black and getting shit results becuase poor coverage doesn't sound like the best introductory experience into the hobby
>>96655341Layer. It's not a colouring in book. The colour you want isn't 1 colour.
>>96655351NTA but I feel like beginners are far more likely to follow the gw method and basecoat everything with 1 solid color and then wash+highlight it.
>>96654793>to my eyes IRL its smooth and shiny but the camera makes it look like.. thatIt might be because of the angle lighting hits the model, you'd need to tweak your photo setup.>>96654793>>96654813Looking at these two first thing I'd try to do is clean up the splotching/coffee staining you have from the washes. Also everything is pretty flat, maybe try adding some simple highlights? Don't have to go all out right from the get go, you can start with the most prominent upwards facing edges.
>>96655351i think you are missing the begginer part and how he explicitly said he just want to base+drybrush+wash
>>96654502GSW Fleximold melts in 60-80C range so resin would need to be heated to max 50C and before pouring. But sounds interesting.
>>96654834Yep. Here's the first batch as an example.
You should only prime black if you are painting majority black and/or metallics. Light grey is just way easier as a default, requiring far fewer layers to achieve the desired result in 90% of circumstances.
>>96655924thank you
>>96655924DefinitelySpraying everything white was the 80s and early 90sSpraying everything black was late 90s to late 00sNow is the time of spraying everything grey or bone
red brown primer chads rise up
>>96655924>>96656050>>96656056I prime with whatever because afterwards I airbrush my main basecoat anyway
>>96656067flopped series enjoyer>captcha STD KA
>>96656074I enjoyed it. Also your mum flopped on my dick yesterday :^)
I've just bought Infinity 2024 CR Plus 2 in 1. I really hope it's good.
>>96656087I don't understand the point of buying those very expensive airbrushes. I mean, I can understand paying little more for better quality but when so called "Chinese" airbrush with good quality cost equivalent of 25-45€ and all those Infinity, Evolution, etc cost equivalent of 110-250€, I hardly see the reason behind that.
>>96656056What is colored primer good at? I vaguely understand yellow is easier to paint on pink but that's it
>>96656140Well, if your models have an obvious main color, you skip a lot of base coating.
>>96650158>Start painting minis within the past couple of years>Is pretty fun but minis have A LOT of tight spaces, excessive details, and shit that are kind of a bitch to paint>Find some older 80s-90s metal minis that are more simplistic>Dramatically easier to paint and more fun as a resultHave mini design concepts actually gotten worse?
>>96656191No, just people have different preferences for which type of minis they like. Only difference is it's easier to make complex minis.There are plenty of companies that still make simple minis.
>>96656191They expect their average retard to use contrast paints now, which work better on high detail.
>>96656209Are these contrast paints with us in this room right now?
>>96656138I can't speak for others, but for me, it is:>I can turn it into a primary painting tool, even for very, very small details (Infinity has trigger adjustment)>if you take a good care for it, it will outlast you (refer to the anon with literal Nazi Germany-made HS airbrush)>easy to clean and maintain, easy to replace parts, three gaskets>interchangeability with other HS stuff>I'm a snob and I like titanium
>>96656140i prime brown, for my undead for example it easier to get all the colors i need like bone or red than a black primer, and still tones them down a bit unlike a white primer wouldif you paint something like necrons you could use a metallic primer and go from there, or chapter colors for marines so you can skip the basecoat alltogether
>>96656191large even surfaces are harder to paint so basically they filled everything with useless clutter and other assorted texture i think this all had something to do with the first release of contrast paints and it kinda makes sense when you think about it
>>96656140That red-brown one I posted warms up your colors a bit. It looks really nice with red. It's also fun to mess around with applying a basecoat over it with a rougher brush that will streak a bit, as you'll have the rusty color peeking through. Try it if you like to build mechs or vehicles.
>contrast paints shitposting starts again almost exactly 24 hours lateryou should paint some miniatures instead, faggot
>>96656056Priming brown is extremely underrated.I prime light gray most of the time, but I usually end up covering most of the model minus the armour in a brown coat to build on the golds, reds and off whites.>>96655924Black helps a lot understanding layering and avoiding having to build shadows yourself.It's great if you don't need your work to be an highly even, saturated eavy metal style paintjob
>>96656191it's complicatedgw ones? imo yes, they design them now to be painted with contrast paints wich leave a worse finish on plain surfaces hence the need for a lot of details everywhere, they too have less 'creative freedom' than back in the day as the bone dragon guy said and 'look at how much more detailed gw is than brand x' is a marketing selling pointi also think it has to do with tech and new sculptors, now that you can cram a lot of detail on the molds you just do, and if you started your sculpting journey on digital you never experienced the limitations of physhical tools so your style it's different, it's way harder to do a lot of detail in actual models than zooming and copypasting in cadbefore cad and advanced molding they had to convey an idea with a lot less and bigger details, so the designs where simpler and more cartoony in some waysit can also be the current trend that comes and goes like web design (or current perceived demand from kids that grew with detailed videogames), and since a lot more companies got in the game in the past two decades with boardgame miniatures and stuff with more realistic proportions and thus smaller details, gw also gravitated towards thatand finally there could be some influence from 3rd party models for 3dprinters wich are mainly made by former or frustrated videogame designers that make models with stupid amounts of detail and designs as if they where designed for the next korean mmo instead of a physical object that you have to painti think it's an interesting discussion but people like 96656229 can't see past the consoomer mentalitythanks for coming to my ted talk
>>96656302>avoiding having to build shadows yourselfI still prefer to lay out a uniform basecoat and layer shadows and highlights from there but that's a fair point.
>>96651382I actually did and got a bundle of sticks for you. Can I start working on them as-is, or should I dry them out first?
>>96656209>>96656236contrast paints are way harder to work with on details, idk what you're talking about. Imagine painting Tsons with contrast paints, sounds like a nightmare.
>>96656330>they design them now to be painted with contrast paints wich leave a worse finish on plain surfacesTheir absolutely most popular miniatures which are space marines have a fair amount of flat panels and dont actually work super well with contrasts you fucking buffoon. All your babbling is is a thinly veiled shitpost.
>>96656341> Can I start working on them as-isare they dry? as in you could use them to start a fire easily? then yesif you got them from the ground and they aren't moist (or recently alive) from rain or something they are good to use, you can leave them on the sun for a couple days if you are not surealso do seal them with thinned pva anyways
>>96656341>I actually did and got a bundle of sticks for you.You are saying you went out and got yourself a faggot?
>out in the sunor in the oven at a low temp (below 90C or danger preferably much lower like 50C)
>>96656391Yeah I'll leave them to dry for a few days and seal them to be on the safe side. I'll also need to get proper flocking material for the leaves. I think the ropes can be used as armature for bushes.
>>96656368>you will not attack this multimillion company while i'm herenot shit sherlock, they can't change their flagship models and make them unrecognizable, yet they still found the way to add a lot more detail to them like the retarded kneepad arches, or gravis or phobos or however they call those new armors with a lot more smaller panels overlaid on one another
>>96656367>>96656368so here we have two 100% opposing views
>>96656433This has nothing to do with defending gw you fucking retard you're trying to start contrast paints shitposting second day in a row. Don't you have anything better to do, you fucking failure?
>>96656446contrast paints are a meme pushed for beginners when they're really not because they're finicky and unforgiving. I agree with both of them - they're bad for details (at least on smaller minis) AND flat surfaces.
Stop responding to contrastsperg. Post minis.Drill your barrels.Cease the faggotry.
>>96656433>>96656458post your models with timestamps or fuck off
>>96656450are you okay? it seems like your blood pressure has liquified your gray matter, maybe drink some paint wateri'm not the shitposter, i was defeding the use of contrasts yesterday and i also use them, wich has nothing to do with the obvious gw design trend, be it caused by constrast directly or not is the matter of discussion, not wheter or not contrasts are goodi fail to see you point or your arguments
>>96656498>>96656485
>>96656485just for you, can we have a productive discussion again or are you going to bury yourself somewhere?
>>96656535they look nice and clean.
>>96656302>It's great if you don't need your work to be an highly even, saturated eavy metal style paintjobpure cope
>>96656541thx
Why does this general seethe about contrast paints so much?
>>96656563It's just one sperg and then retards who give (you)s.
Finished basing most of my MESBG army.I feel like it's a bit plain, though. Anyone got any suggestions on how I can improve the bases? Preferably just things I can slap on there without having to paint them or anything like that.
>>96655924i swear by priming black, love it. I don't usually believe in be all end all solutions, but black primer has never not worked for me
