Work in Progress, stealth effect Edition>Full-on /WIP/ OP Links Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/BE42AEcD>WIP Tutorial Images Megahttps://mega.nz/#F!TvQFCaLb!w8WZKCcOsTRasxrI0JWezw>Saint Duncan's "Six Things I Wish I Knew When I Started Painting"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufP8ka3KGno >Saint Duncan also explains thinning your paintshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxWgsqSf74s >Paint thinning 102https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBDVPoNXyVI >4 EASY Chipping Tricks For Beginnershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku4comhKHJM >Decal Like a Prohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYKLiEW7p9c >How to Edge Highlighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoRbYuAfbEk >How to use contrast style paintshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhholrozptI >How to Paint with Tremorshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqp76vAJu9g >Airbrush Priming and Thinninghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkntrSBvXxE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGjBQzoukFg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00JVUxABe44 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEqT_R41JX8 >Who's Johnny, she'd say, and smile in her special wayhttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Johnny>Previous Threads:>>96689200>>96666221>>96650158
Stahly's paint tool should be added to OP, imo. https://files.catbox.moe/s13y93.pdf
>>96714857Thanks for putting together the OP. I've had a busy couple of days at work and have just been exhausted by the time our thread is falling off page 11.>>96714918I've created a new folder in our MEGA for WIP-related documents. So far, this is the only thing in there, but I will doubtless add more later.Here's a direct link to the document itself.https://mega.nz/file/mjgTgLLA#X75-qFge-FQfRqLLlp417B593-bPr1yD4PfCaZF9oHE
>>96714977maybe keep it in a separate link? we dont want the whole mega taken down if that faggot decides to report his pdf
>>96714977Basado, you never disappoint, OP-sama. This >>96715019 is a good idea, though.
>>96714977https://mega.nz/folder/qr5g2BQZ#yTUdHsH3YhpFtGOQZ-xOeQDo you want to put any of that stuff in the folder?
>>96715024>if I do the entire base without putting the model on, can I just super glue them on?You can, but be mindful of the fact that the connection of the mini will only be as strong as whatever you put down as basing material. So if you glue the mini to the basing texture it will only be as durable as the basing texture's bond to the base. Pinning is usually a safer alternative. For plastic and resin minis just superglue will work usually fine because they do not weight a lot and their own weight is not putting a lot of stress on the glue joints. Metal models will put more mechanical stress on these connections and could just rip the base toppings off with the glue if not handled carefully. So if you are dealing with a metal mini without tabs or a puddle base for some reason (putting them on a resin base for example) then you should always pin them.
>>96715148fuck me. That was supposed to be for>>96714792
>>96714857Done with the last initiate knight
>>96715193And here's a slightly out of focus group shot.
>>96715201how do you take such great pictures?
>The Sprue Shop only delivers in the UK>Same for Miniature Kingdoms>The Sprue Dude only delivers in the US>Mcdougalldesigns available in the entire world EXCEPT the EU (seriously, they even deliver in Afghanistan)Seriously, is there really no one to sell individual Wargame Atlantic sprues in the EU?
>>96715248You could try searching on ebay. Found a shop in the uk that sells to the EU, but with the shipping and taxes you are better off just buying the whole box and selling the extras yourself on ebay.
>>96715248some time ago i was looking for that too, and no theres isn't any eu shop that i know of, at least back then there was a store on ebay that shipped to the eu from uk but you had to risk vat and customsi ended up ordering a full box and sold most of it on wallapopwarlord does sell individual sprues if you can find a replacement in their ranges>Mcdougalldesigns available in the entire world EXCEPT the EU (seriously, they even deliver in Afghanistan)yay regulations! thank vonderbrujen
>tfw have base size autismBasically I use 25/28/32/40mm rounds depending on what size is roomy for the miniature but not too big. I just don't like feet (or extended limbs) overhanging.Unless they have a "official" equivalent. So all Chaos Warriors or Ork Boyz from 1985-2020 go on 32mm now, both 40k and Fantasy; all Blood Bowl miniatures are now on 32mm so I copy that with my 90s plastics. A lot of my stuff is random companies though so it's just to taste.Actually wish there was a halfway between 32 and 40mm though.
>>96715248>>96715367This might be a dumb suggestion, or one you've already thought of, but have you searched using languages other than English? I know when I occasionally go model-hunting on eBay that I get some lucky hits in Germany by catching an English word in a listing that's otherwise entirely in German.I imagine if I knew how to speak German that I could select exactly the words to search by to find what I'm really after.
>>96715205Nothing special, I use some sheets of black paper for background, usually my 1600lm desk lamp and default camera app on galaxy s8
>>96715205Nta but but make sure your mini is REALLY bright and fiddle with your camera settings - usually you need to turn ISO all the way down and fiddle with shutter speed. Obviously disabling all ai enhancements is recommended.
>>96715381>Blood Bowl miniatures are now on 32mmBase size does not matter in Blood Bowl, so logistics is the key concern which makes 25mm square the best base. Square makes prone/stunned easier to distinguish, 25mm means you can use any pitch.
>>96715391>if I knew how to speak GermanReading/writing is far more important, you can speak a tongue and still be clueless on written form.
>>96715391not dumb at allnot really but i looked for hobby shops in general in the eu, i actually ended up ordering form a german onei have ordered from several countries in the eu at this point because it's an odyssey every time to find one store that has all the things i want in stock at the same time
Proof of concept for some digitally kit-bashed blood warriors. Seems to have worked out well enough. Printed in triplicate because they'll also get to serve as paint mules as I figure out a paint scheme.
>>96715343>>96715367>>96715391>ebayOh shit, yes! There are a few shops on eBay who sells sprues! Nice.For roughly double the price compared to The Sprue Shop though.Damn, here's a business opportunity right there.
>>96715578>Damn, here's a business opportunity right there.not gonna lie, i also thought of this, but im too ootl to know what sells and what doesn't from across many different brands and you would need a decent storage space
>>96715457Oh yeah I should have mentioned I blast the lamp full power on the minis, then lower exposition, or tweak pro mode lighting settings if I'm feeling fancy but usually I don't bother with that and just do the former
Gonna keep harping on this. I did the chocolate chip scheme a while ago but I never liked it although perhaps I should have highlighted it? The black-grey unactivated scheme I wanted to save for officers. I have 6 more suits to paint I might do it for another squad.
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>>96715955I should probably ask the actual question to: is the concept of the one-color camo insufficient even if I transitioned two tones and I should abandon it altogether?
>>96715955>perhaps I should have highlighted it?Yes.>>96716005It is rather plain and samey, with some undertones of "I couldn't be arsed".
>>96716005since they're supposed to be stealth units their camo should match whatever terrain you put on their base.
>>96716005It looks wrong when different materials have the same colour. Undersuit and gun should be different colours than the armor plates.
>>96715391Bad news in that regard, there is no professional seller of WGA/Warlord or any other sprues in Germany, similar to say "sprue dude". Its a shame really, but apparently there is zero market for it here. (i have been looking for some Oathmark sprues for quite some time).
>>96716020>>96716068>>96716075Good shit guys, thanks
>>96716075>It looks wrong when different materials have the same colour.you have to think about what material you are actually seeing though. in universe are the gun and the armor naturally that color or are they painted? in real life almost no military hardware has bare metal visible. if it's supposed to be paint why would they use two different colors?
A single colour scheme can look good and interesting but you have tor really push highlights and shades for contrast. it's easier to just use different colours in your composition. block colour and black lining ain't it.
>>96716135While that's something to think about, one should also keep in mind that ultimate we're the ones doing the painting, with the ultimate goal of making shit look cool.
Based and pretty much done.Working on Tomb World terrain now.
>>96716135>if it's supposed to be paint why would they use two different colors?Because thats how it usually is done in RL too. Factories that make tanks, body armor or helmets are usually not the factories that make firearms (that might, or might not get painted by the troops).
>>96716005>is the concept of the one-color camo insufficienttons of historical uniforms looked like that and the official GW schemes do exactly that as well. They just break it up with unit markings and honorifics. You can do the same if you want to. The classic Tau scheme is desert camo, because that is their homeworld.
>>96716773Not bad for finger paints.
Maybe stupid question but - if my minis have those small "pins" on their feet that match their bases, is it safe to use small amount of CA glue to lock them to bottle cap for painting? Normally I would use wire and drill a hole but they are very small. I just don't want to run into situation later where I somehow cannot remove minis from the cap after painting.
>>96716973That does not seem entirely safe, especially not with a thin-ankled resin mini. I'd try stuff like PVA glue and BlueTac first, and if you do go for CA glue start with a truly microscopic amount.
>>96716860Gonna put Mephiston your ass, bitch.
>>96717007Crap. PVA glue will dry quite long and while everyone keep talking about this "Blue Tack", I don't have these in my stores, only "similar" "Scotch Fix removable pads" that are quite shitty, stain everything and fails to hold even lightest elements.
>>96717101Well, I don't have Brand Name Brand BlueTac either, I just use... whatever sticky gum-like thing it was the store I went to happened to have. It's not pads though.
>>96717101Poster Tack is like universally available at dollar stores, wal mart etc etc.
>>96717130In US maybe.
>>96717117Well, my store have only this. And it's piece of shit.
>>96717179Fuck me.
>>96717130in the us, anon. Europe doesn't have wal marts. They tried but went away once they realized we have labor laws here that protect people over corporations. the aggressive customer service freaked people out and their below-cost prcing business model was basically illegal here.>>96716973>>96717101>>96717179>>96717190The wikipedia page in [your language] for Blu Tack should have the local equivalents. I have some Uhu pattafix and i found it to be completely useless as well, though so ymmv.If you usually pin stuff you can just drill into the pegs under the feet and cut the wire flush afterwards with a sidecutter.If you don't have superglue remover you should proably get some either way though. Really useful for cleaning up messy work, but you could just superglue these thing to the bottlecaps and apply the remover and have them pop off with a bit of brushing and patience.If it's brittle resin I'd be careful with just trying to break them off the holder. Like the other anon said: fragile ankles.
>>96716799even if they're made in different factories or by different companies they're all using the same milspec paint. in america almost all your gear that's painted is going to be kg gunkote or cerakote. there are some exceptions like how the scar is somehow 5 different shades of fde, but for the most part you aren't going to see troops with od green helmets and desert tan plate carriers with in the white gun barrels.>>96716973it should be fine. super glue is brittle so you should be able to just slide your knife under the feet to break them loose. I think putting it in the freezer for a while is supposed to make it easier. you could also try 2 sided tape.
>>96717244>>96717190Picrel is perfect for hobbying needs but is a bit hard to find.
>>96717251Freezer is bad option since, as a resin, parts were glued with it as well. But okay then.>>96717244Actually do have CA glue remover, don't think it works very well but I guess it should do with little knife work. I simply assumed that in worst case scenario, I would have to use thin nippers to remove part of these "premade pins" which should be fine since each model uses at least two.
wtf why no one told me airbrushing is so fucking coolwtf I waited so long to get one
>>96717878welcome bröther
>>96717878because you relied on your actual skills before giving in to cheating
>>96717878because you let sour grapes like>>96717948gaslight you
>>96717948(You)
>>96717948fpbp
>>96717948As someone who truly believes normal brush, supported by techniques like drybrushing or sponge shading, is still more comfortable tool, I still wouldn't call airbrush "cheating". It's another tool, with its own limitations and benefits. At very least priming and varnishing with one is much better than using brush or rattlecans. But it's not "cheating" the same way contrast paints, washes, terrain paste, pigments, etc, etc are not "cheating".
>>96717933>>96717973AAAaaaaaaaaaa it's so good, goddamn. I've based two minis in like three minutes and the coverage is so smooth. And that was over black lmao.The sheer potential for shading and glazing, holy shit, bros, now we are cooking.
>>96717948Post your models painted with your "actual skills"
>>96717973NTA but I didn't use one because it was too damn expensive compared to normal brushes and related stuff (compressor costing equivalent of 120€, airbrush costing equivalent of 40€, plus cleaning tools/solutions and so on) and how I was afraid of health hazards. Well, I still do but I'm rather convinced that cardboard box, low pressures and P3 half-mask is enough of protection and I won't even touch lacquers or alcohol based paints anyway.And taking compressor out, connecting, etc and after work taking airbrush apart for cleaning, putting it back on, releasing air, packing whole stuff back is simply too time consuming in most cases compared to just washing normal brush and throwing away wet palette paper.
>>96717948facts, borther. let me take it a step further and remind everybody that if you own more than six (5) paints you are mixlet and a fake hobbyist and you may as well just give up and buy prepainted armies
>>96718057Pfft, owning paints? TRUE paints make their own! And with eggs!
>>96718080A little poop of my own in every paint!
>>96718080Jokes aside youtube once recommended me a asmr video of some asian girl making oil paints from scratch. Shit was so comfy
>>96718034>And taking compressor out, connecting, etc and after work taking airbrush apart for cleaning, putting it back on, releasing air, packing whole stuff back is simply too time consuming in most casesIt literally takes ~5 minutes tops and that's talking about the final, end of the day big boy cleaning. Which is about the same time it takes for me to clean my regular brushes. Quick cleaning in between paints is just pouring a little bit of airbrush cleaner (I like Medea) into the airbrush, brrraaping it a little, pouring it out, and that's it. You can watch HS videos about it, if you don't believe me.
>>96718034>taking airbrush apart for cleaningYou don't need to do a full disassembly and deep clean after every single airbrush session anon, that's overkill
>>96718034>afraid of health hazardsMy nigga, look at picrel. He painted with an airbrush his entire life, many, many hours every single day. Most of that time, it was with acrylics, but he also worked with oils. And those were major, huge canvases, not minis. There are many photos of him working, and in no picture I've ever seen is he using any protection whatsoever. >>96718188You actually shouldn't take it apart and do the deep clean, pretty much period. Only when you fuck up very specific things, and these can be usually prevented by just doing the usual quick cleaning right. Every big name manufacturer will tell you this. Deep cleaning is largely a redditor neurotic meme.
>>96718109For me, that's at least 30-45 minutes, including disconnecting compressor and emptying the tank. And one flush is never enough, I usually need to fill in and flush with water 3-4 times before it gets clean. And cannot do this trick with backflow because I have this flower shaped nozzle cap, tried blocking it with fingers or piece of cloth, it would still flow normally, just staining everything inside (Fine Art FA-180A, if anyone cares).>>96718188I'm not referring to complete disassembly of every part but removing needle and nozzle seems to be obligatory for me. I always see at least some paint leftovers on needle itself, nozzle is usually fine.
>>96718034say you spend $100 on an airbrush, $150 for a compressor, $40 for a respirator, and $50 for a big fan for ventilation. that's $340 for a basic setup. now consider that a just combat patrol is $220 from gw. over the years you have it the airbrush will pay for itself just from rattlecan savings.>>96718188we already went over this 3 threads ago stop being lazy
>>96718223>I've ever seen is he using any protection whatsoever.and you can tell if you look at his drawings /s/
>>96718251not even that much, 120 for a compressor+starting airbrush, 10 for some ffp3 masks and gloves, 0 for opening a window and 0 to use the cardboard box the airbrush comes in as a booth to not paint your walls, that is a trully basic setupdown the line you can get a fancy airbrush and a proper booth if you use it a lot
>>96718223I knew a blacksmith that had his hand stitched back on after cutting it off, burned off all the nerves in his fingertips, was nearly deaf and constantly had sunburn from welding without wearing a mask.Dude was still alive as well, doesn't mean it was smart do do things without wearing protection. Even refused to wear a harness when climbing around of a rooftop.Ultimately depends on how well ventilated the area is. If you use solvent based paints like laquers you absolutely should wear protection though.
Just finished my infernal cohort. I really screwed up on varnishing by forgetting to shake the damn can (too much airbrushing lately) before hitting my banner-holder with it. Luckily only the back looks like he's been pelted with snow, not the front.
>>96718244>waterI would recommend getting an airbrush cleaner. Again, for acrylics, I like Medea because it's odorless and just werks, and they sell it in fuckhuge bottles. But any airbrush cleaner will do. You can even get Tamiya airbrush cleaner, which can be used as a plastic cement, too. Though it smells as shit. Then, get yourself an aibrush cleaning pot, with a filter. These two items make cleaning fast and painless. You can, of course, always get a good airbrush, because they are usually made with ease of cleaning in mind. I've had some Fengdas in the past, and these are really nice, cheap brushes that punch way above their weight, but the cleaning was kinda ass. Later, I got Evolution and that was a LOT better. Now I have Infinity and cleaning is the simplest, fastest thing ever, and that includes taking out the needle.The same thing applies to compressors, imo. I have Sparmax TC 620, and the post-work maintenance is basically letting out the pressure, and letting the moisture drip out; both takes less than a minute total.
>>96718305I don't see the point of buying an airbrush just to not put solvents through it so I consider an at least nigger rigged spray booth to be mandatory.
>>96718315>If you use solvent based paints like laquers you absolutely should wear protection though.yeah, agreed. Get a big boy mask for lacquers. But with acrylics, people just need to chill out a little.
>>96718340you can do almost everything with acrylic primers, paints and varnishesand to spray whatever cleaning solution you choose you can use a pot like picrel
>>96718413you can do almost everything with a regular brush too, except for the things you can't. enamels and lacquers are tools just like an airbrush is. limiting yourself from using all the tools you have available because you have convinced yourself the ones you already have are enough is stupid.
>>96718511so instead of getting an airbrush to use with only acrylics because you don't have a booth you should not buy one at all?
>>96718530I fully recommend not buying an airbrush.
>>96718530I'm saying you can make an improvised spray booth for under $100.so even if you are poor there's no reason to limit yourself
>>96718550and i'm saying if you are not comfortable with a ghetto booth or don't have the space for it you can still do a lot with just acrylics, until you can get one>>96718540(you)
These pics are a little dark, but you get the idea. Going for a tinier freehanded cog pattern for the marshal. I need to clean up some of them from the looks of it the pictures now but
>>96718725I'd have gone for bigger cog teeth. It would save you the nightmare of doing so many and also generally look better. But good job so far regardless.
>>96715193>>96715201Very tasty armor, anon.
>>96718725I agree with anon, the pattern is too small and doesn't read as cog teeth.
Still got the base and a couple details to iron out but otherwise I'm pretty happy with the result. Finally have a bone armour that looks how I want.
>>96718948Ooohhh yeah baby that's the stuff! Impeccable fucking work anon, jelly of your skill.
>>96718948terminators have been ruined for me ever since I started seeing them as having helmets floating in a toilet bowl
>>96718948>all of that painting effort>didn't drill the barrelsthat's like dressing up for an interview and then getting in your car when it's over and realizing that your fly was unzipped
>>96718983unless the interviewer was on his knees in front of you that doesn't matter. If he was it doesn't matter either I guess.
>>96718983HR is all women, leaving my fly open is a deliberate strategy.
>>96718948this is how you make a one colour scheme work. full of contrast and visual interest. still might look better if more of the details were painted as different materials though (power fingers on the fist, belt buckle, scaffold on the legs etc.)
>>96718983Drilling barrels is one of those unnecessary sacred cows that /tg/ can't let go. If you want to drill your barrels, fine, but no one can ever tell the difference between a drilled barrel and a painted black dot when it's on the table. This is part of the cancerous "the photo is the final product" mentality that has taken over /wip/. You act like drilling the barrel is as essential as thinning your paints.
>>96718321you can fix that with a layer of gloss varnish and then another layer of matteyou can also fix it with olive oil
>>96719156You're mixing up two different kinds of painters. One wants a (preferably) nice model to use on the tabletop, the other wants to push his skills and show off the result. For the former - yes, drilling barrels is irrelevant. For the latter it's necessary as part of the whole "trying to make a 5cm tall plastic toy look as close as possible to a real thing".
>>96719156next you're going to say that you can't see mold lines at tabletop distance so there's no point in sanding them off right?
>>96719175Oh hell yeah I'll try that out. Thanks anon
>>96719156Less mental gymnastics, more barrel drilling.
>>96714857I don't think someone on /tg/ has shown it before, but the Horus Heresy Power Fists/Lightning Claws work pretty well on Vanguard Veterans and Death Company. The HH ones are smaller and the arms are less stocky
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>>96719513Man, those old powerfists are chunky
>>96719639All the better to punch heretics with.
>>96719655HERETIC!You only punish heretics with the holy trinity of Bolter, Melta or Flamer.
>>96719112I wouldn't call that a one color scheme like my stealth suits because even ignoring the lovely gradient you have the green, the red, the grey and brass, the gun with the metal and casing.I did these two suits with just a single color armor but I still had more colors to the scheme so they don't look basic. I guess part of my test was if a striking recess wash could cover for that (obviously not)You guys have all been a great help. On the next two suits I'm gonna try the same color for the armor but pick out sections to be black and do the brass details on the stealth field generations
>>96719680>I wouldn't call that a one color schemeIt is. There is a difference between having 1 colour and a colour scheme. A scheme is 1 dominant colour. Colours change depending on the light and surface and then you also still need to break that up with other things. Like even just looking over at my wooden table, there's reds, dark browns and creams in there. Nothing in real life is just one colour, so if you do that, it ends up looking fake, like a toy.I think in those suits you've broken up the colour a lot better though. That would probably be good enough if the recess washes were more solid and clean. I would still add some colour to those panels though. Like the bottom guy. Take the left leg and do alternating colours on those panels. Keep the cream and add a different colour to every other panel leg. Just needs something. It'd make it so much better.
>>96719639>>96719655>>96719676Funnily enough, they look sorta normal also on Imperial Guard sized humans, this guy is from Anvil Industry
>>96719731This is why you need to switch hands when you jerk off.
>>96719723>left leg and do alternating colours on those panels.That's how I usually paint crisis suits I wanted to try something different.
>>96719741That's not what alternating means.
>>96719758The gist
>>96719741Yeah I meant every other one, but that also looks good. I think this looks a lot better than all one colour.
>>96719680monochrome can look good but it has to be super crisp. think like a storm trooper or the space shuttle.also this is just a personal opinion that people probably won't agree with but I think edge highlighting looks terrible on tau robots. they have such angular shapes that freehand edge highlights will just detract from the natural sharpness and make everything look muddy.>>96719723>Nothing in real life is just one colourI disagree. it may be true for living things, but there are plenty of man-made objects that are a single color, especially things that have been manufactured out of plastic or been painted. for most products if something that's supposed to be a single color comes out with multiple tones it will be rejected as a blem.
>>96719869>I disagreeWell you're wrong. Put literally any object in light and there will be parts where light reflects more strongly and parts that are more in shadow. Unless it's a flat object in completely even lighting, there's going to be different colors on the object.
>>96719869>but there are plenty of man-made objects that are a single colorNot at the scale you're trying to recreate. Those suits are big. There is lots of light and shadow. Only small things in artificial light generally appear as one colour.That's why a solid single colour makes minis look like toys.
>>96719917>Put literally any object in light and there will be parts where light reflects more strongly and parts that are more in shadow.that's a question of specularity not hue. a black plastic computer mouse is going to be the same black color throughout. it physically can't be any other color since it's made from one material.>>96719981>Those suits are big.so is an aircraft carrier. if you can make your toy robot look this good no one is going to complain even if it is 2 flat shades of gray.
>>96720325>so is an aircraft carrier.What are you trying to say? It's not one colour. That model is also big enough to cast its own shadows and alter its colours more realistically with light. You're just proving my point more.
>>96720388are you saying the robots are vampires and don't cast shadows? that ship model is 1/350 scale which means the f-18s lined up on the deck are under 2" long, making them even smaller than a crisis suit I believe. they look pretty good for toys if you ask me and I would be completely happy with a tau gundam with that level of appearance.
Started to get some base coats blocked in as a quick bit of progress on her at the end of the day.
>>96720666The closeup looks pretty grainy/splotchy. Is it because of the airbrush primer?
>>96720675Yeah I really wish I could learn to fix that so that every time I post anything this wasn't the only comment I ever get.
>>96720703what primer are you using? if it's coming out orange peel you need to mix it more and possibly strain it, but I don't think there's any regular model primers that require that so probably just shake it harder.
>>96720703Well, tough titties anon. I wish you good luck in that endeavor.
Painting trim - red over a white base. Normally I paint in darker colours so any mistakes are easily covered up, but how do I paint trim over such a sensitive colour that's hard to clear up carefully?
>>96721050I've found that being very careful not to fuck up in the first place is the fastest way to clean up.
>>96714857What stuff do you use for the small bushes on this base? Is it some synthetic moss?
>>96721101nta, looks like foam flock
>>96719175>>96719206When varnishing you only get the finish of the last coat. Which is very convenient.
>>96720666>>96720675>>96720703That sort of grainy airbrush look gets exaggerated when using phone cameras in my experience. Especially under too harsh and bright lighting conditions. Here's one of my recent killa kans and it looks kinda grainy and scuffed in certain spots on this picture, even when it looked pretty smooth to my eyes
>>96721556And here's the same thing shot under better lighting with an actual camera on a tripod. No more work was done on the blue gradients in between when these two pics where taken, only an oil wash and some detail work. The camera setup and lighting makes a massive difference
>No more work was done>only an oil wash
>>96721574>and some detail work
The Legionaries are done. They were one of my oldest unfinished project.
>>96721574>>96721592The blue is the exact same paint job in both pictures minus the oil wash that's darkened the crevices>>96721606These look fucking sharp and clean anon
>>96721606Here is the a view from all sides, since the other LoD Anon asked.>>96721627Thanks!
Mostly done with the body, but still some highlighting/cleanup left to do. Any good hints/ shortcuts for doing faces (eyes espescially)? That shit ist still the bane of my existence.
>>96719156I barely thin my paints any more. new formulations work great out of the bottle, either because they're "airbrush ready" or the self-levelling is light years ahead of the crap that was being sold even 5 years ago.
>>96719869>edge highlighting looks terribleyes.
>>96721606These look great anon!>>96721564I feel like it has a bit of a comic book feel to it? Fantastic work anyway, the blue has so much depth.>>96720666Nice tummy.>>96718948Damn this armor looks amazing, the weathering is masterfully done. You plan on painting an entire squad to this standard or is it just a one-off piece?>>96718725I kinda agree with other anons, the teeth are a bit too small. The red looks fantastic though. I love how you mixed in some purple into the shadows, it adds so much visual interest.>>96718321Thank you doctor. In all seriousness though your scheme is very nice, these guys look great.>>96715193>>96715201Gorgeous as always. I'm going to take this chance to nitpick though, his hair is not up to the level of everything else. You could've maybe tried to emulate a bit of the satin sheen in your highlighs?
>>96720666Wow..tummy
>>96719156I think this paintjob >>96718948 is a step above usual table top quality where you just want to play a game with your models. So pointing out the barrels is fair. You are supposed to take a closer look at this and you are looking straight at the barrels if you do. Perfectly reasonable criticism.If it was a criticism towards a model that has been done by a novice or just painted to be legal in a gaming even (3 colors plus base) it would get different feedback.
>>96721606>>96721660Excellent work, brother. The glow on the plasma came out very well and the blending on the flames is top notch. (We also happen to have the same MORTIS pauldron lol.)Also the different angles are much appreciated, gonna use them for ideas in the future.
>>96721716Mixed in some blue*, not purple. Red and blue is how you get purple. My bad, I just woke up
>>96715193>>96715201This is amazing stuff. My nitpick is the guy on the right looks a bit less interesting than the others if that makes sense.
>>96721660stop this!now i want to do a squad too and i dont have the time for even more proyectsfuckjokes aside its so fucking cool
>>96721864Make your own, anon, you know you want to. You just need some random marines and a bit of greenstuff.
How do I unfuck the face and how do I take better pictures of a mini.
>>96721875>unfuck the faceLooks perfectly appropriate for a sanctioned psyker.>take better pictures Take them from farther away and then crop. Using a lightbox also helps a lot.
>>96721887>Looks perfectly appropriate for a sanctioned psyker.That's my cope too <3
>>96721875Looks pretty good, maybe a few stronger highlights around the brow, and maybe a thinned blue/scarlet wash if you want to make him more pallid.
>>96721661AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>>96721564Sick>>96719680Doing that model currently>>96718321Nice crisp banner
>>96721967ohh nice I remember this candy metallic Farsight from a while back
It is time. What time/theatre should I go with? The classic yellow nosecone or one if tje several full camos? Also it comes with PE etched engine parts, but it is bidden under the cowling if I make it flight ready, so cowling on or off (essentially the difference between being able to display it in flight/take off, or in engine maintenance).
>>96721990Ya, I posted it several months ago (this pic or similar one), but then life got in the way so it has been lying in my backlog.
I'm looking for some other Anon's opinions on Xpress paints. I have a bunch and I have to say it's a 50/50 split between colors that work well and stuff that is absolute garbage.My biggest gripe is that there is no consistency in opacity or gathering quality between them. Some stain the whole surface, some flow into recesses, some pool in thick lines etc. It's all over the place. Some even dry glossy. I have a vortex mixer so it's definitely not a problem with that.That Juan Hidalgo fellow that supposedly worked on developing them often thins them down, but that also only works with some of them. The Templar White right here just separated into blue and black on my mini leaving shitty stains all over. So I have to repaint that now. Considering the amount of cleanup and unpredictable results I've had with these, I've come to the conclusion that painting stuff the old fashioned way is way faster for me than using these, in spite of the name.The only really useful application that I have found so far is using the browns for leather straps and other mic details you find on most minis. That is really the only part of the entire process where that can save you time as opposed to highligting stuff by hand.
>>96721872but i have such a big long backlog anon, spare me>>96721993i understood some of the works you said...full camo sounds more boring than whatever + yellow nosemagnetize the hood so you can look inside
>>96722036I had good results with their blue applied over metallic paints but your comment on white surprised me since in my case, it flowed better than GW equivalent (Apothecary White) while being more subtle. I guess that might indicate wildly varied batches, which is worrying. Overall, I liked them less than GW Contrasts, like you said, they tend to dry into more glossy, "melted" surface, which later contrast when I try to layer over them.
>>96718850Appreciated!>>96721716Thanks kind anime poster. I prefer going matte for faces and hair generally, but I agree the hair there are underwhelming. Should have worked on them more to compensate the noodle hairs sculpt.>>96721763Thank you. I guess I see what you mean, could it be because you can't really see any of his weapons from that angle maybe? Weapons are a big part in visual interest when there's not much else going on on the model, not far behind what is the most important part- the head (which in that case is the only one being full black so maybe that also plays a part in being more discrete)>>96721606Looking great, love the palette>>96720666>>96720703Personally when I get a visibly grainy texture from priming (which I try to avoid in the first place by spraying quite close and using vallejo cans, the best ones in my experience) I'm able to partially fix the defects using a somewhat stiff bristled toothbrush or a super fine sandpaper bit if it's really bad.>>96722036Yeah contrast paints tend to behave differently. It's really up to you finding the right one for your needs and you can't always get a proper feedback of their behaviour from online pics and videos.I think AK recently released their own contrast paints line with an emphasis on consistent paint behaviour across the line, and they indicate on the bottle whether it is high, medium or low coverage or something like that- I need to check and I haven't tried them yet personally.
Anyone know how to go about painting this camo on a tank? I sat down to paint it last night and after an attempt I realized I have no idea how to do it without it looking like shit. Any tips?
>>96722650Airbrush and multiple stenciled layers. You can make your own stencils (for a simple pattern like this), but I'm also pretty sure that DSPIAE (and other brands) sell premade stencils/precut masking tape for digital camo, as well. You can, of course, do it with a regular brush, but that will be a pain in the ass.
>>96721606kinorama kinovision
>>96722672>premade stencils PERFECT exactly what I needed, I didn't know these existed, thanks nigger
>>96722738protip: glue them on a very thin plasticard and make a forever lasting stencil from it.
>>96722738Rude.
>>96722774???
Anyone's got experience in making resin molds at home? Should I just follow the same steps as the DIY momsphere influencers do when they make their trinkets?
>>96722745>>96722738Also, make dure to tape them down very snugly, or else all those Sharp digital camo lines will be fuzzy smudges.
Another weekend, another paint session. Fuck ye.
>>96722893https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuxynPYpy0ccheck his channel
>>96722955This dude's great
>>96722955Will do. Thanks
I’m pretty new this is everything I’ve done so far. I need help. The outcast is a reminder of my shameful first attempt. Just a few finishing details then I’m moving on to a dreadnaught next
>>96722976Tolone is definitely /ourguy/ in /wip/. I hope he's alive.
>>96723041Cool smurfs, really liking the slight weathered look, like a coat of rust from richting in a round of xeno removal
>>96722650Like >>96722672 mentioned, digital camo is mostly done with premade stencils but I just want to add that it indeed can be painted with brush - lines most likely won't look very sharp and rather irregular but from what I noticed, people usually don't see it while looking from typical distance. Pic related. Just saying.
>>96722976??? he starts the video off by butchering the model and turning it's lower half into a fucking blob.I'll give him this much, that is an excellent advertisement for 3D printing.
>me and bro want to get into wh40k killteam after playing histroicals for years>into the dark looks like an excellent starting point, terrain, kroot, breacher teams, rules, tools all in one box>can't buy anywhereWas this sold under some FOMO scheme? The fuck is this, We wanted a complete "paint and play" set, not get two boxes for the two kill teams, another 2 boxes for army supplements, terrain pieces, rule book, codex, tools etc.Any RECs on similar boxsets I can get WiPin' on?
>>96723207Gr8 b8 m8 I r8 it an 8
>>96723353The Hivestorm box contains all the generic tokens and the core rulebook. Best bet for a 1 box experience.Also Into the Dark’s rulebook is outdated since Hivestorm was the start of a new edition.But also yes all Kill Team boxes are mega-FOMO. It’s pretty aids
>>96723353Maybe it's comparatively boring, but there was at least one more Strike Force Justian (Space Marines) vs. Plague Marines of Nurgle starter set box on the shelf at my local GW.
>>96723353>FOMO Yes. That's kinda GWs entire business model
>>96723562>That's kinda GWs entire business modelI have no idea what you're talking about!
>>96722955>ROOT minis>Old manYou have my attention.
>>96722036I have about 20 of them and I really like them and a big part of what is that they dry so matte. Templar White isn't one of the ones I have though so I don't really have any advice to offer you for that one. I've said this since contrast paints first came out but even though they were initially advertised as "one coat and done" paints I think that's an oversimplification of them and using them well is more complex than that. I still think that the simplest method for getting minis on the tabletop will always be a regular basecoat and wash. Some contrast type paints work great as a basecoat though since they flow much nicer than regular paints which makes them great for really bumpy/textured surfaces that can be annoying to basecoat. Another thing they're really good for due to their high flow + high opacity is panel lining which is basically the opposite of one coat and done since you're only actually painting into the recesses/corners. This isn't really xpress specific or anything but just giving my thoughts in general since I have a bunch of both contrast and xpress.
>>96723621>>96723562I understand it for limited edition stuff, anniversary boxes, special more ornate pieces etc., but to do it for what's essentially an intro box to the system and franchise seems like mega aids and just a dumb business decision, because frankly we were already looking into different systems because neither of us are going to make the first experience "wade through the shit to figure it out".I play squad leader, a decades old wargame, to this day their starter sets get reprinted that contain everything to get you started. They too had FOMO shit, but never on the intro stuff and never in the core stuff, inky ever on the fluff.>>96723531Thanks, will check it out
>>96721050reverse washhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej_DTLtil2I
>>96723822Unironically if you aren't already playing Warhammer there is zero reason to start, especially if you have other games you already enjoy. The price, the lazy rules, the FOMO shit, etc. it takes a certain animal to tolerate that abuse and it's frankly better if it's not you. Being a Warhammer player is like being in an abusive relationship and the sooner you get out the better, but a lot of people tragically don't realize they are victims and stay in the relationship forever
Miniature Market is doing a paint sale this weekend
how often do you guys varnish a miniature, then way later do some touchups and extra touches?as an addendum, do you ever revarnish the miniature after that, or just leave it as is
>>96717190Ah, semi-permanent adhesive tabs.
Finally painted up this dragon that has been primed and sitting on my art desk for nearly a year.
>>96724638Another view because I liked it.Not sure if the glossy finish actually makes him look wet or just shiny, but I'm glad the bead on his chin came out.
>>96723353basic kill team rules (the better version of the game imo) are free. GW terrain has always been overpriced and mediocre. starting with just a single team box purchase is ideal unless you happen to love both team in the current starter set. fomo sets are released every ~3 months as limited runs with the teams rereleased later.
Here is a thing, maybe you guys could give me right direction - I have two airbrushes, one very cheap from those "airbrush + mini-compressor" sets (with those tiny compressors without tanks), another "China" one but visibly better quality. So far I was using the cheap one for priming and varnishing and attempted to use second one only for actual paints. While second one never jammed so far, first one constantly act odd and I suspect that I damaged it somehow since it worked just fine for very first use. Right now, for example, I tried to use it together with Vallejo "mecha color" matt varnish and it would barely spray - only at very close and that's with trigger being pulled all the way back. Pressure was at 1.5 bar, needle was being pulled back just fine, no backflow. I removed everything from cup (detachable one despite manual claiming it's not - it lacks any kind of seal, too), took needle and nozzle out, cleaned both again and it only helped for couple of minutes. Even pure water would barely spray.What could be the cause? Also, don't really want to risk damaging the more expensive one if that's the purely varnish problem.
>>96724474I gloss varnish at times before oil washing (entirely dependent on if I want it to run or not), then varnish to seal (gloss, matt, satin, depending on what the finish is).I have never had to revarnish anything.>>96724752If it is not spraying pure water, it is clogged. Remove any rubber/synthetic seals and dunk the whole thing in 90+% IPA overnight.Then make sure you thin your varnish with a suitable medium (will likely require you to do several, 3 or so, coats of varnish, let it dry between coats) and most importantly never ever let it sit ever. If you put varnish in the cup, you spray it, when you are done, empty cup and clean brush with airbrushcleaner. As extra step run a few drops of pure airbrush thinner through the brush before loading the cup.IF YOU CLEAN WITH IPA MAKE SURE TO RINSE WITH WATER AFTERDONT SPRAY IPA UNLESS YOU ENJOY BUST LUNGS AND FLAMEY FLAMEY RISKS
>>96724464Too bad P3 is crap
>>96724638>>96724652This looks really slick. Is this one of Reaper's larger models, or from somewhere else?
>>96720703Use Stynylrez gloss black primer for the skin, apply with a 0.5" nozzle at 10-20psi, 6" from the model. It will give you a very smooth base to work from.
>>96724652>wet or just shinyi would play a bit with the gloss and satin, even matt, water doesn't wet evenly, when you get out ot water after just a bit not every part of you has a layer of water, it flows unevenly and some parts will be 'dry', there would be tide marks and so on, look the shoulders of picrel to see what i meansmooth surfaces like scales would have this effect more pronouncedthe bead looks great
>>96723822>just a dumb business decisionThey're currently trying ti sue 3D sculptors for "unfair competition" because there models are compatible with GW games, not copyright infringing, just capable of being used to play those games.So they are saying that generic skeletons, scifi soldier dudes, etc... are only permitted to be produced by GW at 25-32mm scale.Can't wait to see this blow up like chapter house did.
>>96724896we get some wild takes in this thread
>>96723441It's a pretty dumb idea to start your recasting video with an example of why it is an inferior and obsolete method.
>>96725033they tried to hire the guy and he ran off to start a business making models explicitly marketed as for Warhammer(tm). once he got over a certain size it was inevitable they'd take him down.
>>96722650Why is the tank blue lmfao
>>96725122Uh-huh, yeah. When a mult-million dollar company whines that it is unfair of them to have to compete with an independent individual working out of his home, there is no argument you can make for them being right and him being wrong.GW could have gone into 3D printing and a subscription model service, etc.... for themselves.Instead they invested in warhammer+ and injecting wokeshit into the IP through it, they can go fuck themselves.
>>96725166Makes it look like a phone booth, or a dumpster.
>>96725223Ah yes, just like all the digicamo dumpsters and phone booths.
>>96725213If you're talking about the guy 40kg mentioned yesterday - have you seen his sculpts? They are such fucking blatant ripoffs it's actually insulting to imply otherwise. If he wasn't a greedy motherfucker he would've went around it by maybe doing bits or conversion kits instead. You can't expect a fuckhuge corporation to ignore something as blatant as this.>inb4 the usual "but it's a corporation so who cares???" bullshit
>>96725223>phone boothyou should try going outside every couple of decades.
>>96725299Do they look different now?
>>96725293I'm painting some of his stuff right now and GW wishes their minis looked like his.
>>96725293Ripoffs like how tyranids are ripped off zerg, eldar are ripped off protoss and space marines are ripped off terrans? Maybe a company that was built from the ground up by ripping off other IP's should keep their fucking mouths shut on the topic.
>>96725342nta, i haven't seen a phone booth in 15 years
>>96725342Nonexistence is certainly a different look.
>>96725357(You)
>>96725166Because the Chinese are retarded
>>96725343Fuck's sake
>>96725105Not really. To replicate your sculpt with a 3d printer you'll have to scan it and shit. Here you put whatever you want in a plastic cup, pour some rubber over it and you have a mold.
>>96725392>no argument against hard factsMany such copes.
>>96725407Except that very video shows that is not what you do, you start by turning the bottom half of the mini into a blob lacking fine detail first, then you make your mold.Hmm, almost as if that's just as much work as scanning the mini!
>>96725413>doubling down on your 0 effort baitKek you should've at least mentioned Dune instead
>>96725425>Should we turn the base into an uneven mound to hide that gap? Yes that's exactly what we'll do!I thought he was joking but then he actually did it.
>>96724857Okay. Right now removed varnish, cleaned everything again, did that backflow thing with cleaner, loaded water and it sprayed okay. Then put primer since I have couple of minis to prime, thinned it even more generously than I thought I should, sprayed okay for a moment... and stopped again. Plus, compressor have to get some rest since it start to pump tank way too frequently.I'm fucking done, 3 minis took nearly hour to prime, next time I will simply use rattlecan.
>>96725439Be an ignorant bitch all you like, this is going to end exactly like chapter house.Possibly even worse, they're demanding he axe his entire catalogue which includes miniatures not designed to be used for GW owned games, so GW could end up being forbidden by the court from producing miniatures that infringe on his product identity.
>>96725371Sounds like that would be good camouflage.
>>96724638
>>96725425nta, pretending scanning is comparable in quality to a silicon mold with comparable budget is laughablethe actual problem in that video is that he didnt remove the bases, those models are perfectly castable without them>>96725105>why would you make a tutorial on hand drilling when a powerdrill can make it betterobsolete or not is still widely used across al sizes of companies so is still relevant
>>96725357>tyranids are ripped off zerg, eldar are ripped off protoss and space marines are ripped off terransyou got this backwards buddy
>>96725425To scan a miniature you'll need more equipment than a plastic cup. Also, do you happen to be on the spectrum?
>>96725500You're right, there is no comparison.A recast would never match the quality of a scan as intricate as this one.
>>96725509Right, right, that was a secondhand ripoff, it was starship troopers they were thieving from.Who was stolen from doesn't matter, GW is entirely stolen IP, that is the important detail.
>>96725526Nigga u bite ur nails?
>>96725523you need just as much equipment as recasting, you require a motor to vibrate the bubbles out of the mold, scanning requires a motor to work the 3D printed scanning table, the equipment and effort involved are directly comparable... the first time around. Scanning doesn't require the investment of time and effort after the first scan, recasting requires it every single time.
>>96725293>ripoffsLiterally does not matter, as long as its his own sculpt and it does not use the copyrighted and trademarked symbols.You are perfectly within your rights to create your own boxy medieval mecha with skulls wings and lion ornamentation, multibarreled guns and head of a knight in cowl. Even if said mecha happens to be exactly the same size and similars as the one made by different company. Its like in 1967 ford trying to ban chevrolet from making camaro wchich is obviously similar size, shape, role, performance, and targeted as the same audience as mustang and also could be used for the same purpose, so it hurts their business which is unfair competition. Oh, and replace chevrolet with some company of five guys working from a garage in iowa.
>>96725526>posts shit photo of painted model and ignores half the argumenti guess you ran out of money for the camera after paying the scanner
>>96725594>similarssimilar shape damnit
>>96725598All I see here is an inability to argue the topic of how that is more detailed than any recast could ever hope to be, too many air gaps.
>>96725555I really can't tell if you're trolling or are you this retarded but Tyranids date back to Rogue Trader(1987) which is a full fucking decade before both Starcraft and Starship Troopers(1997). Warhammer is a ripoff, yes, but of DnD and Dune you zoomie.
>>96725586You don't need a vibration table for resin molds.
>>96724857>IF YOU CLEAN WITH IPA MAKE SURE TO RINSE WITH WATER AFTERwhat does this accomplish? 90% alcohol will evaporate with no residue so rinsing with water is pointless. there's nothing wrong with spraying alcohol either as long as you have good ventilation.
>>96725738For some reason it leaves it tacky, but you should be dropping your prints in a tub of hot water regardless, just to remove supports.
>>96725681Yes you do, he's bitching about air bubbles, that means you need vibration.
>>96725968>printshes talking about airbushes tho
>>96725983if anything you need pressure, vibration doesn't work when the resin sets in 10 minutes
>>96725461pictures of the items, the paints, thinner and the process. Getting clogged or not is not a chinesium problem, chinesium problems are things having shitty tolerances, threads snapping, no quality control. Honestly, the only way its getting clogged due to "chinesium" is if the needle is bent.
>>96726079>both are group one carcinogens.not even close, did you get your facts from an AI?>Overall evaluation>Isopropanol is not classifiable as to its carcinogenicity to humans (Group 3).https://publications.iarc.who.int/_publications/media/download/2325/a2800eb33ed9c0547c475ff1fde4e56b2b6311c7.pdf
>>96726151It might be the same fearmongering dude from the last thread.
>>96725983You can use your xbox controller or your wife's vibrator.
>>96726284They're the same thing.
>>96726151Sorry, you are correct, I am thinking of ethanol, ignore what I said.
>>96726079>if you take it out and go straight to spraying you are simply aerosolizing IPAso what? have you ever used windex or shower cleaner before? guess what you're spraying then. I spray acetone out of my paint gun too. that's what ventilation is for.>group one carcinogensthat just means "can possibly cause cancer." crispy bacon is a group one carcinogen. plus>>96726151
Alright, to at least eliminate this aspect of what I can do wrong - how much thinning and pressure do I actually need in case of Vallejo surface primer and "mecha color" line primer and matte varnish?
>>96725293only thing worse than defending a corpo is defending a small time plagiarist
>>96726458I would recommend against surface primer and opt for the mecha line primer.Anything mid-20's psi should be fine. Ideally prime without much or any thinning primer. mecha line is designed for airbrush out of the bottle you don't really NEED to thin it. though for mecha I usually do anyway, like 2 drops of thinner per 10 drops of paint and 1 drop of flow improver, and then just keep the coats really thin if you do that. But you can probably get good finishes with unthinned and fewer coats, I just err on the side of caution especially when using it on gunpla, the finish is more important than with minis because of the large flat surfaces.I haven't used the surface primer in a long time (I prefer my paint to chip if there's an issue so I can fix it, not to start all start peeling off), but I would assume it's also fine at mid-20's psi. do some experimenting first.
>>96726548>only thing worse than defending a corpoRimTech's only interested in profit! Why not me?
>>96726700Somebody remembers Metal Fatigue, how nice.>>96726551Problem is, I was both thinning and adding flow improver to mecha line one and airbrush was still getting clogged. So I assumed I just do something wrong here. Then again, it would flow on plastic surface like overthinned paint so your point of not thinning it was probably right. I'm confused. Also, at some point it began to leak from needle from the front, even when trigger was in neutral position.
>>96726333>ethanolstill no for inhalation, its group 1 for ingestion, and sure as hell you fucking drink beer wihtout capital letters
I can't fucking learn to blend. I don't know but I am entirely unable to. My transitions are always ass and I always pick the wrong fucking colours. Clearly I am a trash human being and the only possible solution is killing myself in shame.
>>96727058i suck at blending too, i usually try stippling and that tends to work well with gradients
>>96727058You can learn. Just don't stress out about it and be patient. Most importantly be kind to yourself, Anon.You can practice on some plastic card, just to get a feel for the paint and the working time. That way you don't stress about your minis and make yourself feel bad. There are a ton of great resources online. You can watch people do it in real time and paint along if that helps.You could also just layer your highlights if that fits your inclinations better. Figure out what works for you. It's a creative endeavor, there is no wrong way of doing it.
>>96726755let this be a lesson to avoid buying cheap tools
I fucking hate painting black Im not looking forward to doing my deathwatch unitsI kinda want to try out Eons' deathwatch since they look nice but they are a little bit too blue
>>96727151>fucking hate painting blackI've seen a video of somebody doing this black over blue with speedpaints as a quick way to do black.You may have to experiment a little to see if that works (Xpress as two blacks, one a little less opaque and one basically as dark as regular paint, so stay away from the intense if you want to try this)Anyway, might be worth a try if you don't like painting black.My first army was mostly black space marines, so I kind of get it. It gets boring real quick.
>>96727058this helped me:pick one base color, and an offwhiteplace 2 big drops of them on the pallete a couple cm apartbring them close and mix so you have a gradient from one color to the otherpaint your model with the base colorlayer picking from different points on the mixdon't load you brrush too much, just barely enough to paintmove and feather each layer your placelater on you can think of which highlight color works best, or pick a triad of colors designed for that purpose or whatever, but learn from the bottom
>>96727151looks good anon, i really love the glow effect and i think you handled the black really welli have a similar problem where i really love yellow and black as a color combination but yellow is notoriously ass to work with, but yet we persevere
Anyone have any experience in cutting and reposing models? I'm curious about how difficult it would be to repose Dante into a pose that isn't retarded.
>>96727197>but yellow is notoriously ass to work withThis might be ovious, but I found that the trick is to find a nice opaqe paint, an off white or bone (VMC Ice Yellow is suprisingly good over black) and just paint the parts you want yellow with that.Then take your yellow paints or inks and just glaze that on top. Yellow is never opaque anyway so finding a nice opaque color somewhere close as basecoat is the better way to go. You can get the color and saturation from the weak pigment as long as you got a solid bright base.
>>96727256>Anyone have any experience in cutting and reposing models?I kitbash pretty much all my stuff. It's generally doable, but with monoposes be prepared for a lot of cutting, filing, and filling.
>>96727263for sure, i tend to use a beige or light tan color as a base coat and then work on top of that
finished my first dark angel this is my 6th mini so far
>>96727256with space marines you can generally just cut the armor parts apart and string them back together with wire to repose the model. You will have to resculpt the soft armor and likely do some repairs on kneepads and elbows etc.As long as you can sculpt a little it's fairly straightforward.The most difficult thing here would be to address the loincloth situation I guess. You'd have to resculpt or replace that entirely for most other poses I guess.I like the old model better, but that is because i've been around during 2nd ed. Getting a different model would be less work than fixing this one. Unless you want to play at GW stores you could shop around for a nice STL or soemthing like that.
>>96727307I like this much better than the official lookvery wrought ironto be honest it kind of looks like a pre-heresy son of horus, but I love their paint scheme so I have no objections.
>>96727058army painter's flexible triads are a great handholding system for blending. even the very light colours I've tried behave well when layered wet.
>>96727194>move and feather each layer your placethis always caused more problems for me. working with a loaded brush and moving between colours quickly without fussing with paint once it's on the model made my blends look far smoother. only ever brush in one direction, from the previous colour towards the next.
>>96727307why is his one leg a pickle and his other leg is an armored bellbottom? wtf is gw smoking?
Would you play 40k with this kind of terrain? I wanted to play with something a little bit better than plain l-shaped cardboard pieces so I followed a tutorial and made this slightly more interesting l-shaped ruin, but I'm not sure. I still need to prime and paint it, and remove most of the first (second?) floor so anything other than a guardsman can fit inside.
All done
>>96727508and a group picture
>>96727343thanks anon! I actually used Luperical green for him the green is just so much nicer imo>>96727475he is actually a STL model I really love how chunky he looks
>>96727508>>96727514I'm going to pleasure myself to these and you cant stop me
I'm about to start the most comprehensive acrylic airbrush primer test you've ever seen in your entire life. I hope you're prepared.
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>>96727322I'd 100% make a new one or at least trim it. It's comically long and he'd trip on it if he were walking. GW keeps doing that for some reason.
>>96727588That new emperors champion is so bad god damn
WIP on one of my (minorly) converted halflings. On the left is the unaltered store listing picture and then on the right a view of mine. I thought the changeup of weapon and the addition of the "pauldrons" (GW empire troops sculpts knee guards) really gave it a feel of its own compared to the original sculpt.
>>96727588>Charge at orcs, it's your moment of triumph dad would be so proud to see you right now. Here we go! *Trips over decorative and dynamic sarape/loincloth* *get shot* *get stomped on* *get shot again*At least he was turning heads during R and R on the beach, he looked great in that thing and you could see the confidence radiating off of him. Fashion is SACRIFICE.
>>96727595bt anon one was pretty good. iirc the free hand bt anon also had a sovlful one. Id search them through the archive but cba>>96727604cute
how good are the john blanche paint sets Im getting them as a birthday gift soon
Been messing around using AI to generate backdrops. Works well. Im guessing you'll start seeing a lot of retailers using it for their store listings etc.
>>96727897they're just specific color of army painter stuff. They're fine for what they are.
>>96727897I like the warpaints acrylic line overall and the blanche sets have some important colours that fill out the missing darker shades in their triads. vol. 1 almost had enough in it for me to consider buying, but I'd never use the speedpaint or metallic.
>>96727910Which one are you using?
this probably isnt the best place to ask but what looks better for as a blackshield deathwatch emperor children?
>>96728168>left is chinese>right has no faceI don't get it
>>96728237Im going to be honestly I could find a good Helmet that was a faceso I kinda just gave up on the dude on the right and said fuck it lets see if no face is cool
>>96728246>I could find a good Helmet that was a facemeant to say couldn't find
>>96728168The one that doesn't use a Sanguinary death mask
>>96727910Looks good but lacks SOVL
>>96728168Have him balance a dagger on his fingertip to show his dedication to perfecting the tools of war despite his return to the imperium
Cheap way to do bricks? Not just small ones like real big & chunky blocks
>>96728517like this?sooner or later Ill get this guy printed
>>96727508>>96727514Amazing work, anon. Love it, no notes. The tail feathers came out great, very neat and colorful accent.
I'm halfway done my primer tests. Breaking for food before doing the rest.The farthest distance I was testing turned out to be silly far and I would never paint like that so at least on subsequent runs I can cut out one of the test variable options.
slightly converted terminator captain
>>96729195Good shit, reminds me that 30k somehow doesn't have Terminator Shield-Captains yet. Hoping they do something of the sort later down the line with Aquilons.
>>96729195it's funny that his actual helmet is buried in the middle of his chest so the plume is just glued to his back.
>>96724906Thanks! Yup, it's Reaper's 'Valfuryx the Vile'. I like his fat alligator face.>>96724999I did at least go heavier on the gloss along the bottom; maybe I can go back over the topside with some flat varnish and then some glossy tide marks. >>96725491>tfw the dragon's tip starts pokin out>>96725618Does that mean they were just ripping off Alien?>>96727514Love 'em; been watching you post all these boys and they look great.
>>96727910Very nice. Could you write down a little "how to"?
I'm gonna get to the bottom of this once and for all
>>96729560Are you trying to find out which chocolate spoon tastes the best?
>>96729560You passed the test for autism it seems.
>>96729594I'm aware.>>96729582No, I already know the kirkland ones are the best, these are cheap ones off amazon.
>>96714857About oil wash, should i buy the W&N artist oil color or this W&N Winton color? W&N artist oil color is fucking expensive though
I have a pretty serious problem with taking way too long and obsessing over painting, and I'm trying to train myself to not do that. I painted up five immortals like this. I still probably spent too long. I need to get this army done.
>>96729698>I have a pretty serious problem with taking way too long and obsessing over paintingBased. You'll fit in well here.
>>96729684Artist has a much better ratio of pigment to binder. If you're just using them for oil washes it probably won't make a difference because you'll be heavily diluting it anyways, but if you're planning on trying to actually paint with oil sometimes then you'll really want the artist range paints.
>>96729698>I have a pretty serious problem with taking way too long and obsessing over painting, and I'm trying to train myself to not do that.As mortality creeps up on you that will rectify itself. You'll look at your pile of toy soldiers and the time you have left and prioritize getting shit done over getting everything perfect. Which holds true for most things in life. Ironically when the realization hits it will be too late.
>>96729746Can I use Winton colors for skin wash? Something like burnt umber + sienna to imitate Reikland Fleshshade.
>>96729768You can use the color for washes just fine, just don't thin it down quite as much, or if you do thin it down the same expect a little less staining from it.The biggest thing, though, is making sure NOT to buy this shit. This you absolutely do not want because acrylic paint will reactivate this shit and it'll just be awful. I know they have a big box set with great value of these, but resist temptation and just get the individual tubes of actual oil paint and not this unholy abomination.
>>96729787So... is it an "oil paint" in a water based medium?
>>96729794To be completely honest with you I have no idea. All I know is I bought it on accident not realizing it was their "artisan" range of paint instead of their "artist" range of paint, used it once, got super confused at how smeary everything got after I went to do highlights, re-read the package and returned that shit immediately. Absolutely terrible naming on that stuff, and I have no idea who the target market is for it but it ain't us that's for sure.
>>96729746What color should I start with for oil wash? Is something like Ivory Black, Burnt Umber, Burnt Siena, Titanium White okay?
>>96729820Those are fine to start with yeah. I might recommend adding raw sienna for a lighter earth tone, and payne's grey for a cold white wash. Also, note that ivory black is a cold blue black, if you want an earthy black that'd be carbon black.
>>96729845Thank you
>>96729845Oh and is Lamp Black ok since I can’t find any Winton Carbon black here
>>96729853Lamp and carbon are the same color, same pigment just different ways of saying it. It's like yellow ochre / yellow oxide, same pigment different name.
>>96729845Isn't Ivory a brownish black and Carbon a bluish black?
I'm going to sleep before looking at these or the irl ones too hard. If you wanna help feel free to pick a couple (no more than like 5) best/worst options. Focusing mostly on quality of the surface texture, not necessarily coverage, I realize a couple here have mid coverage (113 as an example), but that's not really the focus of this part of the comparison.*414 is brighter because I got dust on it and had to crop a different part of the spoon to get a clean spot around the same area
>>96730005Compilation of full images for better idea of actual surface finish.
>>96730005211 and 414
>>96729684Why not just get AK oil paints?
>>96730005>>96730028Awesome (autistic) work, anon. You gonna compile these with actual brand names, too? And the method used?
>>96730262I’d love to, but they don’t sell AK products here. Only overpriced Citadel, Vallejo and some Tamiya stuff ;_;
>>96727541I'm going to assume you like them so that's good I guess.>>96729458>>96728776Thanks anons! I also got this spinny thing but I just couldn't get the video file below 4 mb without it being absolute dogshit quality. So I uploadead it to catbox instead https://files.catbox.moe/wemb1i.mp4Question to anons that posted the spinny videos before - what did you use to edit the video to get it below 4 mb?
>>96730269>hereYou seem to have internet "here". You can order from wherever you want.
>>96729787>>96729794It's oil paint with an added emulsifier to make it water mixable. The result is a paint that cannot properly cure and remains sensitive to water. Nobody should ever buy this stuff.
>>96730308Yes, but the shipping price from Europe to here is freaking expensive. There are other cheaper options like Taobao or AliExpress, but they currently have some tax issues with my country, so I’d need to use a middleman service, and I don’t like that, it’s annoying and expensive too.
My brothers asked me to hurry the fuck up and just play the rest of my models unpainted, so here are 5 possessed out of 10 that I assembled today (chinesium)
>>96727910how u do this
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>>96729326regular custodes termis are all like that, you just sort of plop them onto the hood
>>96725293I don't care, fuck GW so much. Lick the GW boot moar, loser.
>>96725357Correct.
