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Island of Blood edition

>Resources:
WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwh
WM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgeba
WFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6
Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H

>TOW:
https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXS
https://www.warhammer-community.com/the-old-world-downloads/

>Warhammer Chronicles:
https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip
>Time of Legends:
https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip
>The End Times:
https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip

>Alternative Models:
https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL

>Previous Thread:
>>96749355

>TQ:
Which armies are you hoping to see featured in the next arcane journal? Why?
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>TQ
Wood elves because they still haven’t gotten one
>but they got a
No the fuck they didn’t, they got a shitty one for some shitty fucking narrative army composition (against beastmen of all the fucking boring things) and the same copy pasted oops all cav shit.
Oh and the item selection is fucking POOR.
Doesn’t help that the army was in a questionable state even before the position changes
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>>96763368
GW never treated Wood Elves right. Now that there isn't even any of the same people there working there anymore. You think Nu-GW can get it right? This is a monkey's paw situtation. You'll regret asking for this.
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It’s taking all of my will power to not go to the store and buy a box of Dwarf Warriors.
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>>96763727
You could just grab a battalion. That includes warriors and you can cope that you're getting a deal because you're only paying for 2 of the 3 kits.
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>>96763727
This but for cathay
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>>96763879
If I encounter one in the wild I just might, usually I don’t like ordering online if I can avoid it.
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is the empire battalion actually worthwhile
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>>96764508
Yes it's one of the better ones
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What do you guys think of FANTASY WORLD: FORGEBORN CLAN?
I'm looking for some dwarfs but I can't decide
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Can anyone tell me what the use of the mounted version of this is? Tomb kings have no cavalry that isn’t paper thin so I have no idea why you’d stick a hero with them
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>>96764576
I bought it for the herald. The royal on horseback will be a perpetual bench-warmer.
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>>96764576
>>96764579
Skeleton horses are supposed to have been reworked in the new book to actually make them usable.
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>>96764508
not really
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>>96764586
If you mean the book coming out with this, they’re not the tomb kings just gets a barded option
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>>96764606
I am pretty sure there are actual rules for them from what I was reading
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>>96764576
That cracked hemisphere on the standard bearer would look so much better as a gem, why would solid metal fucking crack like that?
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In Fantasy sixth edition, can an Imperial Captain be mounted on a horse? The army book just says he can be equipped with a cavalry lance, and the rulebook states that cavalry lances are for mounted characters/ infantry only. Does that mean you can put him on a horse for no extra points or...?
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>>96764834
I think you have enough context clues there anon to make the decision yourself that he can but to pay points for it. You didn’t need to come to a basket weaving forum for this
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I'm looking at the High Elves battalion pictures and those spearmen and archer models look horrible. Other units in the range look good, at least on the pictures.
Do they look better in person?
If not, I think I'll get a box of Sea Guard, box of Silver Helms and some lord for the similar price instead.
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>>96764867
>Do they look better in person?
not really, they're 2 of the 3 old kits of that range (silver helms too)

you could mask the big hands with gloves
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>>96764893
archers are slightly better on the hands department
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>>96764900
Why do they not have any strings
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>>96764893
>silver helms too
ah shit, I didn't notice that before. I'll go for Ellyrian Reavers then, those look better.
They should really update those ancient models and not just for HE's, it's basically free money from totalwar newfags
t. totalwar newfag
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>>96764926
if you try to model strings at that scale they come up either too frail for hobbying or too thick
some people try to model strings themselves, but general suspension of disbelief works fine if you don't bother
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>>96764867
There’s a guy on Etsy called ElfHead3D who’s upgraded the basic spearmen and archers. He does sell physical versions of them for a decent price (image not mine I posted mine above)
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>>96764979
*posted mine in the previous thread
Fuck it I’ll attach them here
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>>96764834
According to lexicanum, an Empire Captain can indeed mount a horse, as well as a pegasus, with an additional cost.
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Just get mantic elves for your sharp eared needs
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>>96765007
what happens if you buy a pegasus for the warhorse instead of the bard?
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>>96764926
If you want to try, here are some instructions
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>>96765012
Fuck no, god! Of the things you can recommend from mantic the elves absolutely aren't amongst those.
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>>96765013
? Then you'd be breaking the rules, I suppose.
The Capt. can either take a pegasus or a warhorse, with the warhorse having the option of having barding on it.
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>>96765028
no, no, the rules say the captain can take the warhose, which can have the bard or the pegasus
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>>96765041
No. The rules clearly state that the captain can take the warhose, which can have the bard, OR he can take the pegasus instead.
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>>96765041
the comas are used to point out another thing, not to start a list of options
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>>96765013
Do you people aspire to be this pedantically retarded
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>>96765057
retard
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>>96765084
I know my horse's rights, where's his pegasus?
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>>96765097
Pay the extra 50pts and he'll get his own pegasus.
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>>96765007
It doesn't need a ;

Because it already says 'either' - if you read it the way you want to read it, the 2nd option implied by 'either' is missing.

You guys really are massively ESL to read it that way
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where can one find a good orc warboss on wyvern proxy? i really don't care for the gw one and i hate their resin
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>>96765239
Look for a wyvern from dungeon and lazers and just stick a ork on it with chains strapped around him on the wyverns cock.
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>>96765239
Avatars of war one is pretty nice
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>>96765239
it depends on what you want out of your wyvern, but if you want to avoid resin altogether then your options are limited

archon studio has a plastic wyvern, of the more serpentine kind
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>>96765239
I've got no idea how big these are, but maybe d&d or monster hunter figures?
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>>96765239
it was a sin they didn't release one in plastic
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Found an extra ten gors so i'm making a small unit of Warped Gors for some narrative games with friends. Its been a hot minute since i made some bits box mutant freaks, very nostalgic.
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People really do just find random beastmen models out of their asshole in this general huh? Oddly fitting.
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>>96765314
1 in 20 models in your plastic pile of shame randomly turn into a beastman for every year they're neglected
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>>96765314
Age of Sigmar didnt really know what units to sell Beastmen in so it was very common to end up with an extra half a unit of ungors/bestigors or gors.
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>>96765314
For some reason AoS often put half units in Beastmen bundles and start collectings. Never enough for a full unit so you buy a full unit seperately and now still have extras.
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>>96765314
Beastmen in aos were what space marines are in 40k. Even if you don't play them you end up with some sprues of em somehow.
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>>96765314
AoS third edition "the era of the beast" was rumored to be a big beasts of chaos event with a line expansion so a lot of people bought in but then GW decided to squat them from the setting and the whole narrative of the edition was fucking nothing filler so a lot of people never ended up building them back then. Now they are in TOW and more importantly back to their pre 7th edition flanderising its time to dust them off.

Why havent you joined the herd brøther?
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>>96765372
also they had the longest hold out for the great start collecting boxes before the vanguard/spearhead ones so many picked them up because it was so cheap.
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>>96765368
>Beastmen in aos were what space marines are in 40k. Even if you don't play them you end up with some sprues of em somehow.
Beastmen never featured in any starter or vs boxset
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>>96765314
Is man not entitled to the sweat of his baah?
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>>96763339
its my first time noticing the mountains in the background are rat shaped
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>>96765304
>fucking tigrex
Very fitting for orcs actually
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>>96765248
>>96765260
>>96765267
>>96765304
>>96765307
thnx for the advice, gonna go with the avatars of war one.
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>>96765314
Fukken MOOOOOO bitch
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>>96765372
How did beastmen get flanderized post 7th? This is a genuine question, I know fuckall about the goats
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>>96765527
Originally pre WHFB they were "The Broo" a generic animal headed raper enemy type like Fimir, then in WHFB they became generic undivided jobbers for warriors of chaos. Then in 6th edition all the way in 2003 they finally got their own book Beastmen of Chaos.

This was a very folk horror leaning book. The first page is a poem/song written in ye olde english about a foolish boy riding his pony into the woods after a bretonnian knight and finding the gor standing over his corpse and it ends badly for him as a warning for kids. Overall its a lot more lovecraft vibed. By that i mean actual lovecraft not the modern funkoised "cthulupop" lovecraft. Things out in the woods descended from degeneracy of humanity, our gross little family secret left in the wilds to die and never be spoken of but instead they thrived becoming the reason you dont go down to the woods alone.

Then in 7th the game as a whole had a big tonal shift notable from the changes to army book covers. Beastmen lost most of their flavour as folk horror chaos and instead became generic barbarian hordes and it sold so badly they didnt even get an 8th edition book at all. Then in AoS they kept that for the most part and they didn't do much with them.

Now in the Arcane Journal they are back to 6th edition beastmen, the real beastmen ethusiasts would argue, with great fluff like a story about towns in the frozen north being assaulted by nightmares warning them too late krawlmaw was coming to turn whole towns into proto chaos spawn but the army ignores warnings because "beastmen stick to the woods in winter". Right as dark red eyes stare at them out of the thickets around the camp.

Basically if you like stuff like Shadow Over Innsmouth, Dagon, The VVITCH, Penders Fen, The Wicker Man and so on maybe give the Beastmen a look.
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>>96765527
6th edition: brutal pagan savages with folkys twist on chaos
7th edition: furry warriors of chaos undivided
This is a good primer about them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp13ogkitnw
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>>96763339
>TQ
It's still Kislev. Because I still like the lore and I still want an army for them.
Where are my fantasy Slavs GW?
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>>96765527
Beastmen actually come from a Chaosium game called Runequest aka Fantasy Call of Cthulhu that GW published for them in the UK and Europe in the late 80's. Eventually they got rolled into the early WHFB and became less greek mythology and more celtic folk tales. Then in 7th that was all cut out as they tried to make the game less narrative and more competitive tourney game. So a lot of armies got a bunch more heros but way less lore and all the new sculpts were designed more like rts models than rpg pieces.
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>>96765601
Don't forget the poo in 7th edition.
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>>96765617
>ufufufu whats wrong ice maiden, craving my McClackies
>B-blyatt!
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>>96765601
>and it sold so badly they didnt even get an 8th edition book at all.
They didn't get an 8th ed book for the same reason skaven didn't get one, they were very late 7th ed books and already written with 8th in mind.
They did get a wave of models in 8th edition anyway, just like skaven.

The difference you think is there is awfully exaggerated.
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>>96765527
Beastmen used to be the folk horror army with some Conan inspiration. Like something out of a Hellboy comic just set in the middle ages. Then they became furry Orcs. The Arcane Journal is a nice return to form.

If you like warhammer fantasy and folksy horror i highly recommend picking up the 6th edition Beasts of Chaos army book. Its never that expensive online and worth it for the fluff and project ideas.
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>>96765642
You can really tell this book was a real passion project and the credits page is a list of all the goats.

Pun not intended.
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>>96763339
>TQ
I hope we get a Norscan journal with an expansion of the Wolves of the Sea AoI. Apparently new marauders are coming, so I hope its a small release wave that includes some other Norscan flavored things.

As for what else, there’s still two plotlines that haven’t been explored with journals: the greenskins sieging the Bretonnians and Dwarfs, and the whole Wood Elves trying to stop the search for Morghur. So either of those would be cool.
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Is there a reason why gw isn't selling some night goblin units like fanatics and squigs?
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>>96765714
probably because they know that the old models, reproposed at the updated prices, wouldn't be competitive at all compared with the updated plastic models currently in the aos range.
for the tow team it's an investment that's not going to pay off.
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>>96765714
AoS sells those models the same as River Trolls. I would think the older models were too hard or expensive for GW to produce so they just expect people to use the available for AoS
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Is WHFB worth getting back into? About a decade ago I used to play a lot, mostly Bretonia. But interests faded, I've went through a normie phase. Was this game supplanted by AoS? I there anything new happening?
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>>96765722
>, wouldn't be competitive at all compared with the updated plastic models currently in the aos range.
for the tow team it's an investment that's not going to pay off.
That argument would be fair if they didn't sell other night goblin stuff that has a equivalent and the entire chaos warrior range
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>>96765729
>Is WHFB worth getting back into?
it depends entirely on your local gaming scene or whether you like cathay.
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>>96765727
>AoS sells those models the same as River Trolls. I would think the older models were too hard or expensive for GW to produce so they just expect people to use the available for AoS
I thought gw hates cross game stuff? Shame either way the models are charming and having easy access to them would be awesome
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>>96765735
>local gaming scene
Decent I presume? I live in shithole country but in the biggest city. The old FLGS still stands and seems to be in business. Swa few more open and stay opened over the years.

>cathay
The not!Asia? Are they a big part of the game now?
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>>96765743
They do, but the orc and goblin army has a lot of stuff to facilitate using AoS models even having multiple base sizes for Giants to accommodate the new plastic super giantfrom AoS to be used as BoneGrinder for example or options like giving Squigs armour, which was never a model until AoS.
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>>96765729
Its done surprisingly well from what i think people expected. Though bare in mind AoS is currently on its second middling edition in a row and outside of a couple armies you can just use those models here and people are choosing to do that to have people to play with in some areas.

They just put out a book with rules for small 500pts trimmed down games maybe grab some proxies and give that a go.
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>>96765729
What is more popular in your local area. And if both have groups, which has the less shitty people.
Real truth nuke, both games are shit (TOW isn't that great, AoS is mid at best). If you goal is to play the game, play in the group with less shit people. If your goal is just painting and modeling then whichever game has the army that you want to paint.
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>>96765745
Check out your lgs and ask around if people play tow. In my experience it's very dependant on area, even on the specific store in the same city.
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>>96765765
>They just put out a book with rules for small 500pts trimmed down games

Wait, they are still releasing books for WHFB? Neat.

>>96765767
>>96765770

Fair points. Thanks for the suggestion.
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>>96765729
TOW is fun enough. They just came out with Battle March which is similar to warbands/border patrol back in the day. Small points gamemode. Great for trying it out.
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>>96765778
book for TOW, but these new rules stem from older Border Patrol rules from I think 6th edition
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>>96765778
The Old World which is kind of 9th edition WHFB only its a prequel and blends 6th/7th and pretends 8th ever happened. All the rulebooks are at the top of the thread.
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>>96765733
For those they pretty much have to, because they're core plastic kits, and because at the very least they can somewhat compete by having a more favourable price per model.

How much do you think 5 old squigs would cost?
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>>96765800
>>96765802
>>96765803
Damn. I might be back to playing ze stinky frenchmen horseguys. Thanks anons.
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What does a 500pts warband even look like?
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>>96765814
Like this.
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man i kinda regret spending my money on 40k this stuff seems way cooler

anyways wich of the overprices oldworld boxes should i buy (need one thats easy to paint)
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>>96765822
>warrior
>wizard
>goons
>little goons
>big goons
>dogs
sovl
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>>96765813
Sweet. They’re really good in TOW too. I definitely recommend making a little 500 point list and giving Battle March a whirl. Its surprising what you can fit in such a small list with the exceptions they give you.

>>96765814
Its mostly core obviously, but the single “one per 1000 points” exception goes a long way in letting you make something flavorful or fun. Usually you can fit a magic item or two as well.
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>>96765822
are you sure you can have a unit of gors so big at 500pts?
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>>96765823
Battalion boxes are a pretty good deal (for GW). Just pick whichever faction looks the coolest or looks the most fun to paint. Tomb Kings are pretty easy since its mostly drybrushing, and O&G are pretty forgiving too. Dwarfs some detail but it helps that the models are physically small.
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>>96765823
Depends what you like. Also some AoS boxes might be worth it you just need some square bases for the models.
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>>96765835
20 gors is fine, you can have 30 zombies which is a hell of a murderball.

You can also have a single gyrocopter with dwarves if you want to be a proper cunt.
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>>96765835
Oh yeah, gors are dirt cheap, super well costed.
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>>96765841
so i could just like buy skaven from AOS?
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>>96765887
yeah
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>>96765822
This is what I like about WFB instead of AoS: armies look like armies, with a mixture of unit types, rather than the hyperfixation on (and incentives for) spamming one unit type in AoS -
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>>96765887
Yeah, though sometimes you gotta watch out with ranking up models, which aos models obviously weren't designed around. For skaven I think it's generally fine though.
Also be sure to look online for secondhand stuff, skaven were in a recent starter box for aos so should be able to find quite a bit of discounted stuff out there.
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>>96765887
As long as it has a state sheet you can use it. In some cases its better to buy an aos spearhead because of whats in the box. For example there are some old start collectings that were shit for aos but great for tow that you can find online
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>>96765601
Invasion! had a great little story about beastmen and a painting in an old manor
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>>96765908
Are they even called armies in AoS or something else? I have no idea what the vernacular for that game is like, but it's not really a proper army if everyone is in skirmish formation. A slice of an army sure, but not a proper one. Formations are too integral to conducting large scale warfare.
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>>96765951
Yes. Skirmish formation hasn't stopped anyone from calling 40k armies armies either.
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>>96765968
40k armies don't look like armies either
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>>96765908
> Let's forgot the entire first 18 months of TOW, where the game looked more like AoS than AoS did
Lmao.
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>>96765617
I will never understand how anons on here find the ice sleds and bears more offensive than these bitches, btu whatever.
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>>96765908
> Typical Cathay army
> Balloon, balloon, cannon cannon cannon, single unit of 14 jade warriors with a banner, max five man units of lancers with the stupid spam ring
Oh yes much army no spam
> Typical dwarf army
> Gyrocopters everywhere
> Skirmishing rangers
> Foot heroes with guns
> Organ gun organ gun grudge thrower
Ah yes another traditional army
> Beastmen
> Chario chariot chariot chariot chariot chariot shaman on chariot with spam spell shaman on chariot with spam spell
> Single draogre, single draogre, single draogre, single gor unit, skirmishing ungor blobs
Also very traditional!!
Tldr you don't play and TOW has been spam city forever
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>>96766048
Or maybe I'm just not a win-at-all-costs faggot?
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>>96766048
Bro you don't know AoS then, your whole army will be like 1 unit type spammed and a leader that's just a buffing piece that looks like a jumped up version of that unit
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>>96765835
They’re 7 point per Gor
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>>96766048
>typical armies
These are all tournament armies which is not representative of the game
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>>96765835
You might be thinking of Warped Gors that are like 16pts before command or upgrades, these are your basic bitch core Gors.
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>>96766048
The only lists people have access to are typically from people who are both a) attending and b) winning tournaments. Of course they're going to be lopsided, waacfags will waac, no sense paying them any mind. For example, you'd think chaos warriors didn't exist if you only looked at the competitive warriors of chaos lists! Look at the battle reports and army pictures people have been posting in these threads since TOW came out and you'll have a more representative idea of what armies look like. But you know this, or at least you should if you spent any amount of time in these threads, so I don't know why you're complaining.
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>>96766036
To be fair, I don't mind the sleds or the bears either, I just think they should have toned down the ice magic being used on the sleds. Most of the stuff that was in TWW3 wasn't really new either.
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>>96765908
>he says, in dragon fighting: the game
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>>96765908
Bro I’d be embarrassed to show you my list for chaos warriors or wood elves.
Well I’d be embarrassed to show you my wood elves anyways but that’s besides the point.
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>>96766048
>you don't play and TOW has been spam city forever
Nta but sounds like your local scene is just cancer, in the first place tournament player and waacfags shouldn't be seen as the standard of the average player because most casual player buy what looks cool or is thematic.
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>>96766314
>shouldn't be seen as the standard of the average player
>most casual player buy what looks cool or is thematic.
When you're spending a couple hundred to play a game you are not going into it with the knowledge that what you are playing is dogshit.
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>>96765488
GET OUT THA WAY
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Still waiting for the chaos warshrine to come back…
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>>96766454
Id sell you mine anon. I doubt whatever rules it has can get me to build that fucking thing.
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>>96766465
It doesn’t have any rules atm
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>>96766048
I like playing big mournfang units with a stone horn and a thundertusk. Idk if it’s competitive but running big ass boys and their big ass pets is fun

*obviously I have the prerequisite bulls for the bare minimum
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>mfw this is a list for a small tournament advertised as for beginners
What do you think?

===
Grand Cathay [1000 pkt.]
Warhammer: The Old World, Grand Cathay, Open War
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++ Postacie [500 pkt.] ++

Lord Magistrate [250 pkt.]
- Hand weapon
- Light armour
- Dragon fire bombs
- Sky Lantern [Iron hail guns
- Dragon fire bombs + Sky Lantern bombs]
- Płonące Ostrze

Strategist [250 pkt.]
- Hand weapon
- Light armour
- Dragon fire bombs
- General
- Sky Lantern [Iron hail guns
- Dragon fire bombs + Sky Lantern bombs]
- Talizman Ochrony

++ Jednostki podsawowe [330 pkt.] ++

16 Jade Warriors [140 pkt.]
- Hand weapons
- Shields
- Heavy armour
- Jade Officer (champion)
- Standard bearer

7 Jade Lancers [190 pkt.]
- Hand weapons
- Cathayan lances
- Shields
- Heavy armour
- Barding
- Ambushers
- Drilled
- Jade Lancer Officer (champion) [Ring Of Jet]

++ Jednostki rzadkie [170 pkt.] ++

Sky Lantern [170 pkt.]
- Iron hail guns
- Dragon fire bombs
- 4+
- Sky Lantern bombs
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>>96764526
They're ok.
Search the files on telegram and print some to see if you like them in person
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>>96766618
You have to be trolling
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>>96766738
I wish
https://championshub.app/wh_ow/events/c0197b5a-6202-4332-a9d0-d23101af6090
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I could use some hobby / proxy advice or suggestions. I'm planning on making TK that are snake cult themed. Problem is that apart from the Necropolis Knights there aren't other snake units in the official range. Immediately I do think I can proxy the Tomb Scorpion with a giant snake, I just need to find a good proxy model for it. I could also switch Tomb Swarms with swarms of snakes. I'm open to suggestions if anyone is aware of models that could be used as proxies among other hobby related things I could do to spice up my skellies.
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>>96766781
posting some stuff
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>>96766857
this is from lost kingdom miniatures
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>>96766781
could use Jungle Swarm minies for the Tomb Swarm
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>>96766865
this has an alternative skull head
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>>96766877
frostgrave lost archipelago has a few snakemen you may use to spice up your units of normal undead
these are a plastic kit
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>>96766857
>>96766865
>>96766877
>>96766900
These are pretty cool. The snakemen aren't something I considered as I thought about mostly skellies and snakes, but now that you mention it it's something I could consider proxying Ushabti as.

>>96766875
This could work, if I find them. But I think I may as well shop around for any kind of swarm. I'm sure there are lots.
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>>96766900
mierce miniatures has a lot of snakemen and snakemen monsters under Ýdron and Gorgon

one page rules also has proxies for snake stalkers, snake riders and a snake mount for a hero

snake swarms are easy to find

dark sword, reaper, diehard minis also have some snakemen, diehard has some undead ones too, but only a few

pic related is mini monster mayhem
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>>96765908
I agree with your sentiment but I fear that reality does not reflect it
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>>96766877
>>96767007
I need a sexy Yiao Ming sculpt
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>>96766877
Are... are those consumate V's? Trogdor?
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>>96766833
That's how we go racing!
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>>96766833
>no Greasus mobility scooter
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>>96765823
Tomb Kings are definitely the easiest if you know how to dry brush.
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>>96767878
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>>96763559
>GW never treated Wood Elves right.
They don't know what to do with them, they're expensive lightly armored skirmishers in a game about smashing blocks into each other. They're either going to be wet noodles or absolutely cancer with little room in between.
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What's the minimum standard for tabletop?
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>>96768243
So the opposite issue of dwarves
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>>96766833
why was the grom video deleted?
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>>96768291
Bare minimum is basecoat of minimum 3 colors.
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>>96768291
different base colors for skin, metallics, clothes and base
do that and it's the absolute minimum that's still going to look painted on the table
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What if:
Wood Elf melee list?
(eternal guard look cool)
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>>96765714
They want you to buy TOW specific models for TOW because buying AoS models that exist in both systems mean you're buying one kit for two games instead of potentially two kits for two games
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>>96765601
>Then in 7th the game as a whole had a big tonal shift notable from the changes to army book covers. Beastmen lost most of their flavour as folk horror chaos and instead became generic barbarian hordes
You wish they were generic barbarians; 7th made them the setting's official actual legitimate (I'm really not joking) scat fetishists.
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>>96765722
They do sell equivalents of other models though
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>>96768387
The AoS version came out later, I also am not sure if they would fit in the same base
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>>96768386
>generic barbarian hordes
What also bugs me about that is they aren't barbarian, they're anarchists.
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>>96768386
Barbarism and bowel movements are intimately tied to each other.
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>>96768456
What do you think barbarian means?
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>>96768366
A recent tournament runner up Wood Elf list was CC oriented, but they leaned into dryads and treekin and tree men not eternal guard.
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>>96768386
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>>96768610
I think he's referencing a story where two herds cross paths in the forest and their leaders fight and the one that wins ends up killing the other and then shitting on his corpse.
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I don't know why I trusted the out of date online info that Ironguts come with square bases alongside circles. It's just circles.
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>>96768624
I think they stopped doing that in 3rd edition like 8 years ago my man.
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>>96768610
>>96768616
Not just that, the timeline had stuff like
>Beastmen sack an abbey and poop all over it
>Beastmen capture this battle standard and poop all over it
It's like they were writing about the indian menace before anyone else really became aware of it.
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>>96768616
>>96768665
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>>96768603
A culture considered lesser than the person talking about it. Often described as being less civil, more aggressive, and having the wrong gods.

An anarchist society hates all civilizations. It's not generic. It's far more extreme. It's flanderizing beastmen by making them more civilized than they should be.
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>>96768830
Barbarian is an insult for unwashed foreigners that just want to destroy shit and speak gutterspeak. It literally comes from "and their stupid language sounds like 'barbarbar' all the time". It doesn't mean vikings or marauders or something like that. It straight up is an insult for country trash.
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>>96768852
and the Beastmen are most assuredly the countriest of country trash.
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>>96768852
So exactly what I wrote except you added the pseudo intellectualism about barbarbar. Yes we're on /tg/ we all knew that factoid already. And you also didn't address that beastmen aren't barbarians, they're anarchists.
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I am having an autistic fit trying to figure out if I should go for the older TOW branded night goblins or the newer 8th edition night goblins that are AoS branded.
I like the 8th edition ones for the netters and the fact that the fanatic sculpts match them best. I like the older tow ones because they would match the aesthetic of any goblins I will potentially pick up in the future.
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>>96765601
Aos changed them up a little bit, mostly their relation to the gods, not really in regards to their folk horror vs barbarian despoiler dichotomy. They were very much still the latter in aos.
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>>96768893
>beastmen aren't barbarians, they're anarchists
NTA, they're not anarchists, for all their savagery they still have customs and taboos they all follow like you can't kill a shaman, killing a beastlord outside of a challenge is a no-no, they slap together chariots, they're semi-nomadic but have fixed shrines in the form of herdstones.
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>>96768830
>A culture considered lesser than the person talking about it. Often described as being less civil, more aggressive, and having the wrong gods
perfectly applying to beastmen
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>>96768893
>>96768926
>>96768933
Beastmen are animals. An animal doesn't have a culture because it has territory in which it hunts, or because it has a den and social structure.
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>>96768905
They're not from 8th ed, but 7th.

Pick the aos branded ones, you can calm your tism with the fact night goblins are indeed smaller than plain goblins
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>>96768945
They have the wheel, fire and even writing, anon. You lost this one, move on.
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>>96768830
Beastmen aren't anarchists they have religion and a culture they just specifically hate human culture because of their origins are mutants and gavebeasts.
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Bro shows up with the most disgusting netlist you've ever seen
>Your reaction?
Turns out although the list is filthy, each model is lovingly painted, lots of conversions, he even hands you a lore primer for His Dudes
>Your reaction?
After he goes 5-0 he admits the army was commissioned including the one page lore primer
>Your reaction?
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>>96768955
So do nogs, anon. Well, nowadays anyway. What's your point?
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>>96768974
Unlike nogs beastmen developed all those on their own, so they're already one step ahead of those animals.
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>>96768971
Commission me a fluffy army of my choice richfag and I promise to tolerate one (1) game with you per month.
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>>96768945
Humans are animals dumbass
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Skirmishers are generally fine on rounds right? For dryads, specifically.
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>>96769056
Thats usually how most are signified as that with stuff like gobbo fanatics.
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>>96769052
>he tRuStS the ScIeNcE
Sure buddy and the earth is round too!
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>>96769095
>he thinks the earth is a square plate
mate
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>>96769122
Please, it's clearly a triangle, God just rounded out the corners
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>>96768604
>took the bare minimum of eternal guard
I wonder if they even did anything that game
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>>96769056
No, they aren't. What do you think happens when your skirmishers have to rank up to fight in melee? Put them on squares or go play another game, anon.
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>>96769056
Nah, best have em on square for when they get charged or charge
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>>96769056
Nah you need to put them on squares because they do rank up for combat. The only circular bases that are fine for old world are stuff like fanatics where it's just a location marker of the fanatic and you can't engage them in combat.
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Almost finished a backdrop, it just needs a coat of varnish. It was a nice change from painting miniatures and building terrain. How about you Anons? Got anything on the workshop?
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Miao Ying book when?
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>>96769689
Absolutely gorgeous backdrop and cav. You should make a tutorial.
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>>96769689
Very nice anon. Stirland outriders?
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>>96769689
Nice Cav you have there, and those are some nice mountains as well.
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>>96769689
Gorgeous, anon. Simply beautiful.
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>>96769689
Fantastic work, man. Do you have an army shot? I'd love to see the rest of the force.
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>>96768946
I went with the 7th edition ones. Mainly because the old fanatics to match the tow night goblins sell for over $30 Canadian each on eBay.
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>>96763339
There is no model in TOW more over costed than the plague furnace. What the fuck does that thing even do?
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>>96770048
To be honest I just watched two random videos I got after typing 'how to paint mountains'. Gathered whatever was available at home like old paints, random big brushes etc. Bought the cheapest canvas and just started painting.
>>96770059
Yep it's Stirland
>>96770265
I do not, but I'll try to set it up tomorrow.
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>>96769807
Time of Legend: Sigmar's Journey to the East.
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>keeps getting put down only to come back stronger
morghur really is the perfect representation of beastmen
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>>96770462
You forgot Arachnarok
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>>96770505
Do walls make him irrationally angry?
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I have a bunch of dark elves to sell as they're taking up space
i've asked around locally but no one really seems interested in the army and its all piecemeal stuff from it with a low pricepoint

what do?
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Any explanaion why there is only 10 Phoenix Kings here while from Aenarion to Finubar they should be 11 ?
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>>96770481
>5$ Mao Ying love u long time, empire man
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>>96770921
Reminder: Meow in human form is still roughly 8 feet tall.
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>>96770965
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>>96770965
>source: it came to me in a dream
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Has anyone used this barricade bases for bretonnian archers to do multibasing?

Might be interesting for more horde-y armies to make the block look more dynamic and swarmy
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Convince me not to spend $120 on 8 snotling bases.
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>>96771037
Don't do it, mange.
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>>96771037
Do it, faggot.
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>>96770965
>2$ Mao Ying love u long time, empire twink
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>>96771037
If you're asking, you clearly love them so do it. It can't be any worse than what your timeshare vagina spends her money on.
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Had a fucking insane thought today. What do you guys think of clear bases? Still correct square size, but just completely clear resin.
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>>96771037
If you're going to buy shit, wouldn't it be better to get the Blood Bowl snotlings? At least you get two pump wagons out of it.
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>>96771207
Not a fan. Basing is fun and can really make models come to life. To each their own, I can understand the appeal of them thematically fitting any table you play on.
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>>96771207
It works better in skirmish games. In a rank and flank your probably going to want movement trays which means an extra layer of plastic to foil the illusion.
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>>96771207
I think they work fine for units that are more spread out and not in a formation, like 40k, but with units all squared up in WHFB, I wouldn't think they'd work as well. But I'd be happy to be proven wrong if you make some that look good.
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>>96771235
>>96771250
Could hit both side there. Make your basing for the models on a flat plane, rank them up for the right sizes, then pour a resin coat to 1/4 or 1/8" thick and cut them out for trays.
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>>96771037
Spend $60 on 4 gw snottling bases.
Then $60 on another 20 snottling bases from another manufacturer.
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>>96771037
get the blood bowl snotling box instead, it comes with pump wagons
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>>96771207
If you use movement trays, you can always paint the movement trays as the ground, but all alone it would be lacking to me.
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>>96771278
Good call I didn't even know there was a team, ill have to compare the two and see which I prefer aesthetically. I really really love the OG sculpts, so much character.

>>96771270
Nah these don't capture the whimsical nature of Snotlings.
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>>96771037
Look for recasts instead, save some dough.
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>>96771349
was thinking further on it. Might get a bunch of fishtank gravel, and make a set of dudes fording a river with blue tinted resin.
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>>96771768
That sounds sweet. Make sure to show us if you do it
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How do I get my retarded players to grab the McGuffin while robbing some noble dipshit’s house? He hired them to do it so he can collect on insurance, but he really hired them so the curse of the McGuffin passes onto them, It Follows style.
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>>96771889
Put it on a grand pedestal or plinth where there are no guards and surrounded by coin and other valuables
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>>96769689
Just finished up some more elves
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>>96772258
You seem to have spilled some rosemary on them
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Just got these two bad boys from my lgs, have I wasted 20€?
I also got a bunch of 40k 5th edition codices
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>>96772315
yes, unless you're italian
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>>96771889
Put it in a locked chest in the safe, mixed in with the precious stone.
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>>96771889
put a different way more evil looking artifact not too far from it so by avoiding that they think they've been clever
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>>96771889
Make it a weapon, players love weapons.
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>>96772411
Ofc I am, silly
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>>96769689
Working on a mini to break up painting my Beastmen before doing another batch of Gors or something.
Planning on using it either as an objective, or as a decoration for my herdstone.
It can also be used in games outside of Warhammer of course
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>>96772258
Look great anon. I like the little shrubs
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>>96768427
They fit. I use the sun steala charriots for my goblin wolf charriots... they are sweet models
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Empire seems bloated while also not having anything of substance
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>>96772559
Unfortunately that’s empires thing, tons of unit variety but no special rules to make them interesting
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>>96772538
Decorate the herdstone with her if you have any balls at all
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>>96772631
I already have a sacrificial altar in place for the herdstone, fits a 25mm base neatly. When not in use I plan to have some blood splatter in the slot itself.
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>>96772559
Their defining feature of detachments is available to multiple factions now, but it also got nerfed and for empire all of their shits too expensive to take advantage of it. Also great words not available for core hurts, not being able to use them as detachments is worse.

Really hoping for some points adjustments to most factions, it’s pretty absurd we haven’t gotten any
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>>96772564
Combined arms fit their flavor but the problem is that more focused and specialiced armies tend to be better.
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>>96772495
remas or miragliano?
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>>96772543
Thanks anon!
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>>96769689
Now THIS is Warhammer
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Vampire counts......please its easy money James.......you can even re-release the mounted wight king from aos.
I need ghouls and skeleton, bloodsuckers and ghosts.
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>>96769689
Those horses are weird
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>>96773066
Give it 3 years
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>>96773066
Sorry anon, but they're NEVER coming back to Fantasy. Your only option is to play Age of Sigmar.
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>>96773074
If I wait any longer I become a skeleton myself
>>96773076
>standard skeletons are fully armored defeating the point of grave guard
>ghouls,ghosts and skeletons are separate armies
No I rather play the strigoi vampire army at least they have some cool miniatures
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>>96773076
Classic VC maybe - but Vampire Coast (that allows to field most of VC units) is unavoidable at some point. TWW army, distinguish enough from TK and AoS vampires plus VC popularity among community - GW can't ignore it if TOW wants to flourish.
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>>96772685
>sacrificial
Paint some blood running down her legs and some filth on her dress. Make your opponent feel a mixture of pity and disgust for her, equal desire to rescue her/put her out of her misery.
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>>96773076
Where do vampires get enough dead humans to have skeleton armies in AoS? Impossible to care about this goofy Marvelized schlock.
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>>96773154
anon lets not play this game on where armies like high elves (the constantly dying race) or dwarves (the other constantly dying race) manage to scrounge their illogical and incongruent numbers for armies from.
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>>96773142
Surely vampire coast is on the table at some point, in one form or another. Though for aos or tow remains to be seen. Makes more sense in tow probably.
>>96773154
why would they have difficulty finding dead humans in aos? it's essentially a post-apocalyptic setting afaik
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>>96773154
>Where do vampires get enough dead humans to have skeleton armies in AoS
from dead humans?
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>>96773154
It's million times easier ow you can find dead 1000s of long dead people in Aos then how the flying fuck WFB Chaos has a whole amry of warriros and marauders living in the North fucking Pole.
If it wasn't for the "chaos warriros don't eat" lore the entire warriors of chaos range would be dead in a week from starvation. And let's not talk about reproduction speed needed to supply whole amries
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>>96773170
>high elves (the constantly dying race)
They win almost every battle they fight in canon and fuck like rabbits, they're just largely isolated to Ulthuan and constantly under attack, so not much room for growth.
>dwarves (the other constantly dying race)
Same problem of "isolated to mountain holds and constantly under attack," but also fuck like rabbits (when they can actually manage to marry a woman, lel) to the point even minor exile-kings are fabulously wealthy with clansmen numbering in the thousands.
>>96773197
>>96773200
Let me rephrase, what left that many human bodies uneaten, unscathed, and neatly buried in a cemetery somewhere for a vampire to find and resurrect in AoS? The only things killing humans in AoS are monsters or daemons who would be eating or sacrificing any bodies they got their hands on.
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>>96772315
>Regni Degli Ogri
That sounds like a spell. Nice finds, anon.
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>>96773230
>The only things killing humans in AoS are monsters or daemons
brave assumption.
With that logic the only thing that are killing humans in fb are beastmen who are known all to well to leave corpses whole.
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>>96773216
>how the flying fuck WFB Chaos has a whole amry of warriros and marauders living in the North fucking Pole.
Fishing, farming hardy root vegetables like carrots and tubers, cattle, sheep. Same as IRL Iceland which only has like 1% arable land but still supports a substantial population. Keep in mind they're supplementing this heavily via raiding, piracy, and hunting, they have literal fucking mammoths to hunt for meat still.
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>>96773265
Humans in WFB die in battle with other humans on a regular basis, leaving mass graves on battlefields for necromancers to easily form fuck-huge armies. This doesn't happen in AoS. Where are there tons and tons of intact human bodies lying around for the taking in AoS?
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>>96773270
>Iceland which only has like 1% arable land but still supports a substantial population
The whole country has a population of a small-ish town.
With modern technology.
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<h1>daad</h1>
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>>96773279
Lol, what humans are killing humans in wfb. They're all in GOOD together
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>>96773197
It makes zero sense in AoS. AoS alreay has its vampires, ghouls and totally-not-necrons. Meanwhile Vamp Coast was invented FOR Warhammer Fantasy Battle world (Total War game to be exact). Can't find a single reason it should be ported to AoS. If anything - GW would probably like to wait for another Pirates of the Carribean movie (it is in production accoriding to google) with the release for marketing reasons - but Vampire Coast is coming. There aren't many unexplored factions within the lore outside Legacy factions - and Vampire Coast seems to be the safest bet of them all, including Kislev.

In other words - they are coming rather sooner than later and I'm pretty sure the list will be flexible enough to field a classic Vampire Counts army, without marine accents.
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>>96773092
You're making the right call. AoS skeletons are god awful, their legs are far too spindly and snap even with gentle handling or on the sprue itself.
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>>96773294
Chaos warriors are humans. More or less.
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>>96773283
>As of 2025, the population of Iceland is approximately 389,444
These are basically End Times WoC numbers.
>>96773294
Bretonnia and the Empire are constantly fighting in border skirmishes, the Empire is constantly fighting itself, Kislev is constantly fighting Northmen, etc. Meanwhile in AoS humanity is literally one unified faction with no internal dissidence under the absolute rule of Sigmar. So where are all the pristine human bodies coming from?
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>>96773294
Good doesn’t mean nice in this context
There are frequent border skirmishes against Bretonnians, and not to mention rival towns and provinces within the Empire itself.
I know you’re just baiting for (you)s so I’m gonna leave it here.
I know you’re not as dense as you want to be portrayed Anon.
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>>96773311
Also also, there are loads and loads of ancient barrows and tombs in the Old World from ancient battles to pick from. This is not true in AoS. If anything, AoS should be 100% fresh zombies of Inner Cities of Sigmar obese sidecut dreadlocked fags, not ancient long-buried skeletons.
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>>96773311
>So where are all the pristine human bodies coming from?

Crypts, tombs and other gravesites from the Age of Myth and the Age of Chaos I would say.

But enough about this here, go ask in the AoS general for further details. They might know more.
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>>96773304
Chaos warriors are also in AoS, so he clearly doesn't count them as humans
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>>96773294
>only 2 factions
MORE LIKE THE OLD WARCRAFT
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>>96773230
>>96773279
Why would this not happen in aos? Even then aos has a whole precursor era before chaos was around, with plenty of warring kingdoms, duchies, empires and everything in between.
>>96773270
iceland had a population of like 50k prior to the industrial revolution. And even then iceland is paradise compared to the chaos wastes.
>>96773302
I agree it would fit better for tow, especially since it's in need of new factions more than aos is (even more so if we consider the possibility of legacy factions not coming back for the time being). I think there's about a 70-30 chance in favour of vcoast going to tow over aos.
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>>96773230
>The only things killing humans in AoS are monsters or daemons who would be eating or sacrificing any bodies they got their hands on.
untrue.
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>>96765313
>>96765409

Shit son, do you not de mouldline?
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>>96773154
>Where do vampires get enough dead humans to have skeleton armies in AoS?
they rain from the sky
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>>96773335
>aos has a whole precursor era before chaos was around
What the fuck? I thought the whole point was Sigmar making his land marine angels in WFB Heaven to fight Chaos on nu-Mallus. So what was Sigmar doing this whole fucking time then? What about Nagash? Why did they not just prevent Chaos from reaching the new world?
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>>96773382
Go ask in the AoSG, if you don’t do that the we all know you’re just a retarded shitposter
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>>96773382
it's a long and unexplored story
the short answer is: multiple people fucked up
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>>96773230
>They win almost every battle they fight in canon
This doesnt mean anything. They still have issues that bring their race on the decline, whether its dark elves, slaanesh, or even themselves.
>fuck like rabbits
Im sure they have a hedonist here and there but i sincerely doubt it considering how the rpg books and their army books paint them as.
your reach for the dwarves also kinda falls short.
These two races are entirely tone deaf to their own issues in a logical manner. Which is fine, it gives them a nice taste of grimpderp.
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>>96773382
>what was sigmar doing this whole fucking time
beating up godbeasts, armwrestling his bro gorkamorka, fucking alarielle
>what about nagash
trying and failing to conquer the afterlife and become the sole god of death. To be fair, he's like 90% of the way there
>why did they not just prevent chaos from reaching the new world
they did, for a while, but eventually succumbed to infighting
>I thought the whole point was Sigmar making his land marine angels in WFB Heaven
after they get btfo by chaos, siggy retreats to heaven and starts work on his sigmarines. Meanwhile chaos conquers like 80% of the realms
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I am once again asking if anyone has a decent GM screen for WFRP 2e that they could recommend me. I’d be eternally grateful!
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>>96773496
>fucking alarielle
Dwarf go.
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>>96771207
Personally I hate it.
The theory is "you can see the terrain under the base!"
The reality is "All these guys are standing on glass discs"
Its never "Completely clear", its very obviously there and rather than a nice modelling opportunity its just an ugly disc sitting under your model. I feel square bases would be even worse.
I feel like modelled bases let you lean in to the suspension of disbelief and clear bases break it. Just me though.
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Those guys were originaly from 8th edition of WFB, correct?
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Has anyone actually done the headswap conversion for mounted knights of the realm using the foot knights of the realm heads (and shields)? I've been waiting to see someone do it since they released and I've not seen any yet.
I'd be tempted to even swap the much simpler looking mounted model heads and shields onto the foot model bodies so they actually look a tiny bit like the "poorer" counterpart they are meant to be.
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>>96773625
I've only ever see them used as kitbash bodies for 40k. Which makes sense, they appeal to the lowest common denominator.
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>>96773623
correct
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>>96773625
They look like they were made by someone to spite Bretonnia players
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>>96773704
Good god that really makes me want to play bretonnia

>>96773713
Honestly I hate they way they come together as a model and I'm not a fan of the great weapons but I like the helmets in isolation. I think theres a chance they could look ok if the helmets and weapon options were toned down somehow but I think theres a very good chance that would simply be too difficult.
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>>96772053
>>96772412
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>>96772434
Thanks, gamers. Seated on a pedestal surrounded by chests filled with other wondrous treasures it is.
(The spoilered is the campaign details, which shouldn't matter unless I trigger some inspiration in you.)
The McGuffin is some sort of treasured artifact of a Tomb King, think Karitamen from the 2e adventure only way more blatantly Khemric. Ostensibly, the PCs will be inflicted with the Curse of Ra (Ptra) which shall only be cured if they Return the Slab (or suffer my curse) to his tomb, but the true motivation is to lure the PCs into a wild road trip across the Old World and thus accumulate enough experience to aid the Tomb King as advisors on the state of the world. In essence, he's putting them through hell so he can ask what grain prices are like in Ostland.

I'm working out the main villains (probably Chaos, Skaven and Vampires) but that's the core conceit of the adventure.
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>>96773906
imagine telling him he can't taste chocolate or potatoes from lustria
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>>96773625
I'm doing the opposite, historicals (no, not Perry) on foot with some mounted KOTR headswaps.
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>>96773979
I really wish victrix did cost as much as gw shit here in the states.
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Long cocked chad opinion (correct): magic items on non-wizard characters are gay, with few exceptions
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>>96773990
Counterpoint: my Beastlord stole it.
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>>96773990
I think most magic items are kinda....idk. I dont really care for em. I just take em so I can make them stronger. Thats it.
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>>96773990
How do you figure? The wizards don't enchant the items themselves, right? Heroes with magical swords is nothing new in fantasy.
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>>96773994
This is one of the exceptions, based.
>>96774000
If you fluff that /yourdoods/ general is a wealthy noble and has an heirloom weapon or armor or something, I'm also fine with that. If you have a fully kitted out General of the Empire with 100 points of multiple magic items, you're a fag, unless it's a Runefang, in which case you're actually a long cocked chad.
>>96774023
I think (non-common) magic items are rare and someone kitted out in multiple unique magic items is named character level, which is gay. It feels particularly WAAC with Bretonnia, which allows you to stack Virtues on top for insane combos and herohammer faggotry.
>t. Bretonnia player
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In medieval england "Ale-Conners" were county-level ale testers who enforced laws around quality and fair markets. This should be a career in WFRP 5e, or in the next supplement. Either way.
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>>96774181
Did the HRE have a similar position?
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>>96774210
They weren't called conners, but many states in the HRE (especially Bavaria) had "Reinheitsgebot" laws that attempted to enforce market and quality laws. If the laws existed, surely someone was inspecting, though I imagine the nature of the inspection was an area-by-area thing. I find references to guilds sending inspectors to make sure their integrity was protected, for example.
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>>96774181
>>96774233
Basically I want to play a guy who drinks all day in WFRP because that's something I can relate to.
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>>96774280
Is there really not a "Tax Collector" bureaucratic bully type career in WFRP? That's surprising.
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>>96774280
I'm pretty sure Dwarfs have careers like Brewer, which would probably fit that role or the BrewGuard Career in TOWRPG.
For humans, a Bailiff would probably fill the same positions
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>>96774295
Any career can be a bully if you RP a corrupt enough asshole. I played a riverman, that sort of guy technically has a lot of leverage over unarmed customers.
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>>96774295
bailiff is just a name for a Tax collector
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>>96774077
>I think (non-common) magic items are rare and someone kitted out in multiple unique magic items
What about obviously non-rare magic items that arent listed as common for balance reasons. IE: Biting blade or armor of meteoric iron? I'll agree with you on things with names or stories around them completely though.
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>>96774335
Bad example, you meant non-common as in not from the Common list.
A better example is Horn of the Great Hunt then. Every herd probably has one.
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>>96774335
Biting Blade is still an enchanted blade which would be very expensive and rare, something only your general could realistically afford. Armor of Meteoric Iron is literally armor forged from a meteor, hardly common or easy to come by, and definitely not cheap.
>>96774339
Items you could infer are common but aren't classed as "Common" in the meta rules sense are perfectly fine in my opinion. I just dislike seeing multiple powerful, rare relic items on a single retard throwaway hero who isn't even the army's General. Put those points into another unit of doods instead and have some fun.
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>>96774430
>I just dislike seeing multiple powerful, rare relic items on a single retard throwaway hero who isn't even the army's General
I'll agree with you there for sure. The common list items I would also agree are in setting expensive, but they could all quickly transfer between users/armies. If an orc kills a dude who had one, he gets it, then the orc is killed by an elf, who's killed by a tomb king, etc.
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So for Battle March what would be a fun none waacshit Tomb Kings deal?

A Prince, lvl.1 Lich, 10 skele archers, 20 warriors and 5 horse archers seems fun if basic but what do you do to make them have some variety and not feel like vampire counts at this level?
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>>96774885
I mean you can fit in one interesting thing. Maybe carrion or a scorpion. But basic lists like that are fun too, they get right to the point.
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Are Tomb Kings on foot only sold on GW's site right now?
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>>96775001
Yes, you can also get one on the Necrospinx or Bone dragon models
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>>96773076
They made vampires look so gay in AoS thobeit.
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>>96774885
Scorpion or Ushabti. Throw one unique unit in there
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>>96775001
There are places taking preorders for the new one but from tomorrow they are official released so any FLGS should have them.
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>>96775122
Not really, AoS Vampires still follow the exaggerated designs inspired by the Coppola film from Warhammer Fantasy. The only exceptions are the weird models like the Battaur character or the Cursed City Vampires
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Working on some Gobbos, after choosing the newer night goblin sculpts after discussion yesterday, what are you working on lads?
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>>96775122
so they fit in fantasy
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>>96770265
Here you go Anon. It's barely an army (my main force is VC) but I'm steadily working on it. For 2k I plan to add a unit of knights panther, swordsmen and archers/crossbowmen. Helblaster is already getting some paint. Also you may ask, why there's a dwarf slayer in there? And the answer is that I'm running a slayer hero instead of one my own because I want him to die in a glorious way (he wants to pay up his family debt to my captain-noble).
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>>96775223
Fantasy is gay in a fun campy way, AoS is gay in a "obese black tranny with a sidecut" way. Keep West Coast American faggot kike shit out of my setting plz
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>>96775224
StirlandGODS positively feasting tonight. Total river troll death
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>>96775247
you keep speaking but you're just describing vampires anon.
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>>96775275
Vampires don't prey on the HIV+, that's more Nurgle's thing
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>>96775224
Thank you, anon! This is inspiring. That's an absolutely beautiful army. And I'm now settled on starting my own Empire force. May your dice always roll high.
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Duncan is making Chorfs from the new AoS models
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grGdoRZmxNo
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>>96775224

Are some of those Highlands minis prints and if so what scale did you print them? I'm worried about the rank and file looking puny next to the new resin wizards from GW.
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>>96775319
No, these are only GW sculpts.
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On a scale of 1-10 what are the odds we get Kislev or Ogres or Vampires before the new year?
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>>96775402
2 i would say
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>>96775402
Before the new year? Practically 0
In 2026? I'd say like a 5
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>>96775402
If you were asking in 2027 maybe a 4. I can see them dropping the odd rule for something like a chaos chariot somewhere, maybe some resin characters too with a arcane journal or narrative book.
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>>96763339
>TQ
Dark Elves, Daemons, Chorfs or Vampire Counts.
Games Workshop! Give me back my legacy factions!
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>>96775222
Haven't even based them but hoping to make a 500 point Dwarf army soonish. Just need 10 ironbreakers.
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>>96775224
Talabeclandbros... Our response?
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>>96775497
Not having to live in stirland
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>>96775224
Awesome looking army Stiranon.
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>>96775224
> may ask, why there's a dwarf slayer in there?
Actually I was more like "why is there a giga Chad in the spearmen ?"
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So if I decide that my high elves army is from a certain kingdom, do the lore explain why said kingdom can field regional units from other kingdoms like lothern sea guards or Ellyrian reavers?
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>>96776007
I have the same question for Dark Elves, Har Ganeth Executioners and Black Guard of Naggarond specifically
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>>96776007
Make up your own shit. Shits never consistent for elves anyways.
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>>96776007
>>96776022
Just say they're <You Region> Sea Guard or <Your Region> Reavers. Modeled after what the Lothern did with their Sea Guard or what Ellyria did with their Reavers, etc., and <Your Place> just has its own.
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>>96775224
Great work, Elector- Count! Keep it going, tiger
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>>96776007
You can but you need to have different explanations for different regions and units. So what region are you basing your army in and what units specifically do you want to use?
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>>96776325
Other than the AI making her facially hot that was pretty good.
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>>96776354
I also tried a few months ago but the result was "meh"
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>>96776496
Damn the AI didn’t even try
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>>96776354
Yeah AI keeps changing her face.
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>>96776520
Well I prompted "don't move anything for the love of God just shake the background a little" because when I tried to make things move it didn't work at all (pic related, a butchery of my favorite warhammer artwork).

Then again, this is a Chinese model from six months or so ago
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>>96776587
>didn't work at all
No, that's exactly what night goblins would do
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>>96776526
I can see this ai was trained on the wider web kek.

>>96776587
That’s not bad for a free Chinese ai
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>>96776600
Well the prompt was "the goblins hop around and cheer", and the main guy still makes his sword disappear and glares forward against my specifications
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>>96776496
Tried.
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>>96776616
the Ultimate Orc - whenever he kills a dwarf he absorbs the beard.
Terrifying
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>>96776325
>>96776496
>>96776526
>>96776587
>>96776616
cursed slop
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Is this actually ever going to happen?
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>>96776806
most probably
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Gutted that the 7th edition night gobbo sprue has a mandatory command in every box. Can't just make 20 dudes.
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>>96776806
wish they replaced the skeleton warriors with a Chariot instead
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>6666
here, last one, always from that same drunk night months ago:
this is the cursed slop that I unleash on Age of Sigmar threads to scare them
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>>96776666
Better ?
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>>96776831
it's just a minor conversion away
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>>96776952
She can suck more than my blood, if you know what I mean.
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>>96775224
Nice work anon. As a fellow Elector Count it would be good to Assemble our armies on a thread to see which Empire regions are represented on tg.
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>>96776997
You mean your tax money right ?
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>>96777171
I reckon getting with Emmanuelle is more hazardous than getting with Bonnie Blue
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>>96777121
Man, I wish I picked one of these up when they were still available. The War Wagon and War Altar are some of the coolest models in Fantasy.
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>>96777220
They're fairly easy to scratchbuild yourself (except for the horses of course)
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>>96777171
Eugh. Reminds me of my brother's whore gf
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>Mfw trying to find a third party replacement for the old beastmen dragon ogres
Would something that goes on a 50mm round base be too big or small compared to the old models?
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>>96776997
That aint a vampire, that's Grand Countess Emanuelle Liebowitz of Nuln
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>>96777586
Who is a notorious canon whore
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>>96777854
Still surprised she didn't turn out to be a Slaanesh worshipper.
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>>96777520
If it was me I'd cheap out and get Tehnolog Centaurs for Dragon Ogres.
About the base - it's not a good way to estimate the size of a model
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How's this for stop gap terrain until I get more projects done? Unpainted Gor on right for scale.
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I got some Victrix foot knights to use as Heavy Armour Veteran Sellswords (they're actually very nicely in scale with GW models, although the weapons need replacing) and they've made me despise the 7th edition State Troopers. I used to think the shoeless body was dumb and they were too covered in details but it's so much worse than that, they're doing the most stupid fucking shat pants squat and they look like monkeys, the shields are fucking idiotic and their clothes legitimately look like pajamas, good god the amount of just greebly bullshit really is insane, and check out the fucking standard bearer, he's holding up a fuck off huge flag in one hand. It's insane, absolutely absurd, I have no idea what the person who sculpted them was thinking.
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>>96778238
>hehe humie funny.
I dont think people took the setting seriously after 6th edition,honestly anon.
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>>96778137
highlight your FUCKING mini's brown skin and apply a wash to the armor and cape RIGHT FUCKING NOW
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I have finished assembling a box of Night Goblins. I will have to get 2 more boxes to make 2x30 man units.
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>>96778262
I'm going to do the wash once all the rest are done so I can get them roughly the same.
Highlighting though, I'd need help with. I'm straight up colorblind so I don't see what others see.
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>>96778137
Where did you get that model from?
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>>96778324
yes you do you fag, you pick a color, and you add white, and voila, it's the same color but lighter.
Stop using colors you can't see it's not rocket science - why the hell did you pick yellow + pink so that it GUARANTEES you can't see at least one of the two???
Use pink and red if you have tritanopia and yellow if you have the other one, and use blue anyway, you can see blue ffs
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>>96778353
myminifactory. Printerra studios Greeka series. Also using the Sirena and Pleasure Seakers from that same series. The sirena are going to be the command groups for the Gors, and bestigors once I get around to them.
>>96778370
The pots said gold and purple. In either case I'm going to fall back on the two important parts: I like it and I know i suck at painting.
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>>96778370
Oh, but i will try the highlight though. A simple instruction like that is something I can do.
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>>96771368
>Nah these don't capture the whimsical nature of Snotlings
I didn't mean those ones specifically. There are hundreds of options out there.
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