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enough with the drama edition

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>Previous thread:
>>96715565
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Ignore Kramnik
His own conscience is his worst enemy
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>>96804048
Maybe he'll go to court for cyberbullying.
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I was going to bake a thread in honor of Danya but I guess we can have another anime OP instead
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Insufferable anime faggot
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>>96804130
We don't know the exact cause of death. Wait for it first. In any case, the only valid honor would be a chess tournament in his name with all the big names participating.
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Did he drop any good loot
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xFVwWLtbeE
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>>96804144
The family refusing to comment and with no official cause of death it's almost guaranteed he either offed himself or OD'd on some shit, probably some embarrassing stuff too. Not to glaze the event, but it's probably a mess, and Kramnik should be shot for bringing him to this.
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New real general
>>>/vg/543484241
>>96804133
Almost like this dead husk of a general only still exists so the pastebin tranny can bake every thread and shill his rentry(formerly pastebin) in it
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>>96804525
>refusing to comment
Their lawyer advised to keep it quiet.
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>>96804143
cope and seethe, normie. this is anime country now.
>daniel
Never cared for him, desu.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbFFnRBeOSk
>check the date
what the fuck
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>>96804977
It's a trick and you fell for it.
You post a blank video and unlist it from youtube. A year later you change the title, thumbnail etc and make it public. Boom you have predicted Queen Elizabeth's death.
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>>96805040
its not a blank video theres bad ai voiceover and an image of danya that keeps zooming in
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Hold on I'm going to be silent and calculate for a minute here.. RIP
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>>96804867
It should've been levy
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>>96805351
levy only takes barbiturates
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>>96805064
>AI generated commentary
>AI voice
There are countless people that pump out these kinds of videos. There is a reason why its the only video on the account
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>>96804977
Not the unpleasant looks from visitors to the charlotte chess club :(
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>Daniel dead
What the FUCK
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>>96804144
Why would you not want to honor him before knowing the cause of death? It's not like it was a murder/suicide
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About 1:20 into his last vod you can tell the alcohol he was drinking out of his mug had a very interesting interaction with whatever drugs he was taking, the screen was probably spinning and he kept drinking anyway. Wasn't just drunk could see the pupils dilating. Maybe someone spiked it, my guess is he was being reckless about mixing drugs
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>>96805040
>Boom you have predicted Queen Elizabeth's death
Are you suggesting we didn't know that she was eventually going to die
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>>96805711
Shut the fuck up. Retarded internet detective. You don't have the first clue what happened.
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54:03: "If I knew that some of the most influential shakers in the chess world would carry the notion that I am a completely morally bankrupt individual... That would represent the complete failure of literally of everything that I... My reason for waking up in the morning."
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31:35
>"This will not be the last time he faces criticism or trolling"
>"Oh, it actually will be"
Damn
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>>96804038
I look like this irl
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Hans niemann spent the night worrying and trying to save his friend from suicide while playing in US championship in different state, meanwhile Fabiano spend the night meticulously and autistically preparing against Hans' italian opening knowing Hans is a specialist in that because Fabiano got ass blassted at freestyle vegas, Fabiano is just heartless man.
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>>96805853
Have you watched it? He's sharp and engaging with chat for the first half then he drinks out of mug a bunch and starts zoning out, if you've ever drunk too much or did drugs it's pretty familiar.
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>>96805877
Wrong timestamp I think
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Could've been worse, what if it was Levy instead?
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Why can't it be levy who killed himself? But i guess it's always the annoying ones that keep on living to endlessly annoy us
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one of the few GMs I know of that wasn't a completely narcissistic asswipe. What a fucking shame
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>>96805993
my bad i took it from the downloaded video where an extra 10 minutes was included. the timestamp for the youtube video is 44:03
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somehow this is Kramnik's fault
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>>96806071
Why do people hate Levy?
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>>96806196
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>>96806196
That particular kike has no right to be as annoying as he is while being not even a GM
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>>96806196
He told me to play caro Kann as an 800 and I kept losing
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Did nobody in the "chess community" have his back? Like surely if a dozen or so big names messaged him, "Don't worry bro, we know Kramnik is full of shit, keep doing your thing," he'd have been able to pull through until Kramnik stfu.

This situation reminds me of Hax$ (Smash Bros. Melee player) death by community bullying. That case was even more gruesome.
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>>96806507
Tons of people had his back, but it's easy to focus on the negative, particularly when it is impacting your career.
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>>96806507
They're hypocrites and didn't really have his back
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>>96806762
>if any, real friends
>if any
Snake
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>>96806772
His "friends" didn't stop his suicide/OD but all came out of the woodwork after his death to virtue signal
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If you can't handle big mouth personalities in chess you shouldn't be a player
Magnus Carlsen is passive aggressive especially in his fight with Hans Niemann
Nepo is famously outspoken
Kasparov is an anti-Putin mouthpiece
Bobby Fischer was famous for his antisemitic remarks
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>>96804130
What was that stopped him playing titled tuesdays? And why wasn't he on chess.com commentary team anymore?
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>>96806963
kramnik the noticer
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>>96806507
this is unironically the exact same as the Hax situation. Large influential community figure systematically turns friends against him exiling him from the community. Any attempt to abide by this new community's rules is retroactively turned into a violation of their trust; for years on end. I'd be going psycho too if i was gaslit to that extent.

>my victim is dead, I'm most affected out of everyone
Kramnik is the exact same kind of crybully as Leffen
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>>96806963
This is the kind of personality it takes to beat Kasparov at his prime in a world title match btw.
Ruthless and absolutely no fucks given. You may not like it, but it's true.
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>>96806762

Dude's just mental. At worst, he is indirectly responsible for his death, yet he can't fanthom that and is deflecting the blame on his friends for not noticing.
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>>96807073
no, it's like hax only insofar as it was an autist who couldn't let something go and it took over his life / spiraled him into depression + substance abuse

danya very clearly had the institutional backing throughout all this, the chess mafia, they were with him 100% and tried to get his suspicious behavior swept under the rug and demonize kramnik instead for simply asking questions

how can you not see how they operate after all the shit they do constantly? you think this is any less egregious than when they tried to bully hans etc
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I don't buy that he cheated at all, he has beaten ivanchuk, nodirbek and fabiano
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>>96807078
Kramnik lost to Vishy btw
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpUjmI5PnA4
more depressing content
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what are the best fundamental openings to learn if I just want to learn 2-3 for each side and eventually end up around 1500-1600 on chess.com?
lazy casual player. prefer tactics puzzles to actually playing chess but I have a couple friends who play.
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>>96806507
Hax wasn't getting bullied by the community. He was beloved since he was a kid. Tournament organizers gave him every chance to back down from the crazy shit he was putting out but he kept crossing the line as his mental health spiraled and drug abuse worsened.
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>>96807713
1600 is top 3-5%
1000 is casual...
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>>96807713
play the hippo. same few opening moves with both colors and perfectly adequate to reach 1600. any system opening is fine with such modest rating ambitions.
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>>96807073
Wtf hax died?
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>>96806841
He had friends who came to check on him IRL when he looked rough streaming, also friends who checked on him after not being able to get a hold of him. Anything else what his friends did or didn't do is speculation.
Regardless, implying that he has no real friends after you've pushed him to the brink and shortly before he possibly killed himself isn't a good look.
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>>96807830
aren't chess.com ratings super inflated?
even when I started out I wasn't under 1000. maybe years of esports shit gave me a leg up.
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>>96807846
Kramnik accusing him was literally a nothing burger. I thought he'd just brush it off like Hikaru.
Why even respond. I really thought Danya only responded because he wanted to be more relevant. Why even entertain it.
Why let it affect you so much?
Kramnik is still being an asshole even now. He let Kramnik win.
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>>96807955
Okay so you know basically nothing about the situation then
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>>96807962
His friends talked to him like a little kid. "Turn it off, or I'll unplug the cord"
Not very nice. The way Danya responded was like a child.
I mean Danya was always kind of awkward guy, doing weird impressions out of nowhere, I remember people saying he was asexual because of Dina. Dina saying he didn't return her phone calls.
Did Danya have the mental fortitude to go through what Hans and Hikaru went through?
It was literally a nothing burger.
I feel bad for him and all his friends and Dina.
This really doesn't look good for chess.
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If Naroditsky killed himself over the Kramnik Allegations doesn't that lend some credence to the idea that the allegations were actually true? This is of course assuming his death was intentional which isn't 100% confirmed yet.

But very very few people ever believed Kramnik and most people think he's a quack, so why would it bother Naroditsky so much. I guess it's possible that Naroditsky just couldn't handle the pressure of false allegations, but he'd be a lot more likely to fully meltdown if he knew something major might be exposed and ruin his reputation.

I don't know either way, but I haven't read a single post anywhere even acknowledging the possibility of him being a cheater. Regardless, his death is an enormous tragedy that saddens me greatly
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>>96808209
Magnus came out and said Kramnik was being terrible and there's a 0% chance Danya was cheating.
But Danya was always kind of strange himself. This is something you'd easily pick up by watching his streams. Hikaru and others are definitely more comfortable in their own skin.
Remember Danya wrote like a 50 page thesis during the Hikaru drama?
I think Danya had incredibly thin skin and probably some mental disorder.
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>>96808209
Kramnik probably has BPD
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>>96808255
Nah, he is very classic NPD. But disorders are Cluster B and overlap a lot in terms of unconscious abusiveness.
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Its incredible that chess players are able to manage multiple boards while playing blind folded, I can't even remember grocery list without writing it down
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>>96807992
>weird impressions
His impressions were funny, especially Hikaru
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>>96808481
Do you live and breathe competitive grocery shopping?
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>>96808692
No I'm just a hobbyist
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>>96808209
>If Naroditsky killed himself over the Kramnik Allegations doesn't that lend some credence to the idea that the allegations were actually true?
No because he had no way of proving he wasn't cheating so Kramnik and his parasocial fanbase just kept piling on someone who clearly had some mental issues.
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>>96807992
>This really doesn't look good for chess.
hey I'm only here because of the drama. makes chess seem relevant enough to want to start playing again, even if it's not a very good game.
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>>96808760
Oh yeah? What games do you like?
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>>96807843
yes, threw himself in front of a train, survived somehow, had to get a leg amputated, and passed away a few months later from complications

TOs and other prominent community figures fucked with him, bullied him, and gaslit him to a disturbing extent then all pretended they were his only real friends and could never have seen it coming; but also tried to rewrite history by deleting their names from this big public google doc which was a joint statement among a ton of TOs justifying the Hax ban.

>>96807799
>Tournament organizers gave him every chance to back down
You're completely wrong here.
He complied with all of their demands and apologized dozens of times. Only for TOs to reneg and say he wasn't doing enough; and using his apologies as justification to extend the indefinite ban. The alcoholism definitely contributed to his death, but its pure propaganda frame the community as benevolent towards him
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>>96808209
>doesn't that lend some credence to the idea that the allegations were actually true?
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>>96808840
Goddamn. The last time I heard about Hax was when Simpleflips made a video asking TOs to unban him. I expected things to turn around after that. I wish I never learned that, that's depressing.
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>>96808881
yeah, its super fucking sad, i left melee when all the events started shilling crypto and started paying attention again around the time of the FreeHax movement
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>>96808209
I doubt it was Kramnik. Naroditsky was just depressed in general. Most of the time he would hide it in streams, but every now and then the mask would slip and he would say a little thing that, if you have ever had serious chronic depression with suicidal ideation before were basically like alarm bells going off. Every now and then he would say something that just made me go, "Oh yeah. This dude is going through it."
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>>96807830
1600 is manageable by everyone
>>96807713
which opening you learn doesn't matter at all if you're playing less than 10min. pick something that looks fun to you and learn the details. you can even go with complete novelties and have analysing engine help you learn a few lines. in fact you'll trick many players by doing so. Remember that engines are 3000+ elo, if you learn lines from the engine, you're playing at 3000+ elo level.
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why were these guys asking him to cut the stream? who were they anyway?
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>>96809236
friends
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>>96809236
because they are optics cucks who only care about public appearance
they were concerned enough to abort troll him and rush to his house but seemed to stop there, the coverup doesn't help their case
a difficult decision needed to be made to treat that situation with the respect it deserved, bro was absolutely COOKED and his friends should have sent him to the hospital but were weighing too many different things like his public perception/reputation and mybe the fact he had a tournament the next day, what good are any of those things now though?
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>>96808209
By his last stream, it certainly doesn't look like a suicide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbk-mvBmLUM
I even took his nuke comments as threats towards Kramnik. As if they're planning some legal action against him, if he continues attacking him. For some reason, he took accusations to heart. He had phone conversations with Kramnik, and it certainly effected his play.
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>>96809236
Manager, I assume. Him, and his friends all run as streamers.
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Putin killed Danya
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i miss and will miss naroditsky, but don't have sympathy for the position in life he was in. he just had to stream a couple hours here and there and his bills were paid. if he wanted extra money he could just charge exorbitant amounts for an hour of coaching here and there. cry me a motherfucking mississippi river on that part of things. you fucks
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"chess community" can't stand reading that. often uttered by people who earn a lot of money from this game and not because of their skills. I'm not in a community with the asian bimbo and the chesscom CEO
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I posted this is in the other thread before realising it was dead.
Honestly, watching the video of "Kramnik should be held accountable" and reading all the comments about how the cheating accusations ruined his life etc etc, and all I can think is "where the fuck were these people for Hans?"
Like none of these mouth-breathers are calling for Magnus and Hikaru to be cancelled and banned from tournaments despite going way harder at Hans than Kramnik went after Danya.
It really sucks that Danya's dead and Kramnik is obviously a cretin, but this performative outrage is ridiculous. If there are punishments, they need to be consistent. There needs to be an official way to voice concerns over cheating and anything outside those channels needs to result in an automatic 5 year ban from even attending all major events. Because otherwise we get the situation where it's never taken seriously until after there are dire consequences (ie suicide/overdose).
Like "you're allowed to be a fuckwit that runs other players' names through the ground, unless that person dies as a result"
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>>96809601
Believe it or not some people care about more than money
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>>96809655
>If there are punishments, they need to be consistent.
It's so unfortunate that FIDE is a ridiculously inefficient governing body, and that the Court of Arbitration for Sport only cares about the Olympics' sports.
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Dany said he took benadryl. But he never specified what he was drinking.
We've seen him drink alcohol on a lot of his streams.
My guess is the reason he started becoming really sleep is because he was drinking alcohol with benadryl.
This is probably what killed him
He marilyn monroed himself
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>>96806196
Watch his streams to find out.
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What's with mutts and prescription drugs?
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>>96810193
Benadryl is otc

Probably shouldn't be tbqhf
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>>96810072
He didn't die right after that stream. He was commenting in one of the Hikaru streams.

>BeccaHarris: I took a Benadryl to make sure I got 8+ hours of sleep, it hit me a lot faster and harder than expected. before I knew it 15+ mins had passed and I nodded off a few times, and suddenly poeople were freaking ou
>BeccaHarris: streaming was a mistake ofc and I did plan to end, then people just srtarted to abort game after game after game and I got frustrated and didn't stop when I should ahve
>BeccaHarris: from my perspective it wasn't a big deal, I've fallen asleep during games am illion times lol, I was

You really shouldn't fuck with sleep deprivation. One of my scariest trips was being entirely sober, but on some four days without sleep. I was lying on my bed, eyes closed, but it was as if I had them wide open. I saw a black starscaped sky, that turned into caleidoscopic circle that turned for a while, then I asked to see a face of Jesus, and it emerged in that circle, and then I woke up.

>>96809655
There was a lot of confusion. Main difference is that Hans did cheat in online games. Only after that match against Magnus, chess.com made their investigation and banned him. Magnus kept mumbling his usual undecipherable talk, and he dropped a few games against him, but he wasn't particularly aggressive. Hikaru went all in, and really did say some truly outrageous things. Mocking him, attacking him constantly. It could easily bring Hans to the brink, if he was susceptible to it.
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In a world full of Danyas, be a Kramnik
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>>96808779
starcraft broodwar
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>>96811408
Based. That game is still so good.
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walking (scratch that) rolling corpse desperate for a reaction has a danya theory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp9DZxpDE30
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>>96811927
how do we improve player mental health?
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>>96811948
Websites should freeze your account for 8 hours if you where playing an insane amount of chess.
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Based kramnik taking out the trash
all these streamer whores cheat, and naroditsky was just one of those niemann types, pirate softwares of chess who got lax with their opsec and got figured out. add to it that they're all on drugs and hooked to their smartphones and bang! many such cases!
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btw kramnik was the only one who voiced concern about his extreme drug use. if his parents cared for him as much as kramnik did he would be alive to day. leaving an end stage junkie to his own devices is like throwing a litter of helpless animals in a river.
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>Anon I just can't take it anymore, this is all too hard to take. Do you have some benadrill?

What do you answer?
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>>96812100
does anyone even feel good on benadryl? i thought it just dulls cognition so you can sleep or not have to sneeze. the real problem for danya seemed to be stims. like he was tweaking and having flashbacks of his abusive russian coaches
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>>96807670
>i couldn't handle a reddit post every day

jesus christ
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>>96808234
>>96809304
Kramnik just saw him for what he is, a junkie cheater and told it straight. Since everyone affiliated with Naroditsky is very likely a cheater as well, they did not cover for him because they were afraid of Kramnik analyzing their streams. Now they're trying to pile up on him to draw the attention away from their own moral bankruptcy.
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If you're using and relying on drugs to perform better in chess, is that not cheating?
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I gave my eulogy here. RIP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mBCfeDd8C0
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>>96812305
>my
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>>96812246
Doping, yes.
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>>96807041
why are world champions such relentless noticers
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>Nooooo its Kramnick's fault that Naroditsky was a druggie who couldn't stop doping to win!

Why do redditors keep blaming him? Hans took two years of meming about buttplugs and cheating after Carlsen's accusation. Chess players are narcissistic schizos, of course cheating accusations are gonna be thrown around.
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>>96806507
Hax was actually permanently banned from participating in melee though, and noone supported him. The tranny tos and top players kept completely quiet (besides mew2king), probably due to some sort of weird leffen ludwig interactions. I genuinely hope melee dies as a result. And general consensus was always against hax online (so reddit), while the opposite seems to be true for kramnik/naroditsky.

I find it hard to imagine he was this disturbed but I guess he was. Nearly everyone I ever saw for years, when referring to kramniks accusations towards anyone, said he was crazy, basically.
>>96807073
Leffen is exactly as evil as hax said he was. He was banned for no reason.
>>96807799
Found the tranny to
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>>96808209
I have literally no idea but I thought this too. He had the backing of everyone and everyone basically saying kramnik was just crazy. Why would he even care?

Jewish mental problems maybe just the culprit.
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>>96808881
>depressing
Look up the discourse on the subject on reddit. It's fucking infuriating. I was banned from every single relevant melee streamers twitch for asking them what the fuck was the point of the ban in the first place after it happened. Well, mew2king obviously didn't ban me and hbox just timed me out and said it wasn't the place.

What is the place? I'm so confused about the situation and why it happened to begin with. At least karma came for mango, but I hope leffen dies and something awful happens to Cody and zain.
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How big was Naroditsky on twitch? Could this be some sort of night media killing or even faked death?
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>>96812305
BLUNT and RAW?!!!
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>>96812766
It's a combination of genetic jewish mental illness and devoting your life to a stupid board game since you are 3 years old. This is always a cocktail for disaster.
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>>96812796
A faked death is the wildest possibility that has been thrown around so far, but somehow, it could make sense
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>>96812851
I guess so but there are plenty of jews who've been playing chess their entire lives and they mostly don't kill themselves.
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Who took him away from us?
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Reminder that the mongoloid and Carlsen behaved exactly as 2016 Me Too whores. In fact, accusing someone of cheating should be a ban-worthy offense.
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>>96812855
You need to have fuck you money if you want to fake your death and live comfortably for the rest of your life. Only people like Jim Morrison can pull this off. Naroditsky was successful but nowhere near this level.
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In retrospective, that could've been Carlsen if Hans wasn't strong mentally
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>>96813075
If you're a rich Jew who likes him, you might be able to pay for him to die and live a relaxed life as your personal chess coach.
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>>96809578
>Danya
Jake Gyllenhaal
>Kramnik
David Dastmalchian
>Magnus
Jesse Plemons
>Hans
Timothee Chalamet
>Levy
Paul Dano
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Life experience and world history has taught me that when 2 people are in a dispute and one of them is a jew, the non-jew is probably telling the truth. Kramnik is unironically probably right about everything and will almost certainly be vindicated. Of course when this happens, it won't be publicized or even mentioned.
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>>96808209
>be danya
>be also thin skinned
>make chess your whole identity
>everything you do is because of your love for chess
>some retard comes along with baseless allegations
>no matter what you do/say/prove, the accusations continue
>decide to check out

In no way was killing himself any admission of guilt
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>>96813507
It absolutely does though. The mainstream chess community and public opinion was overwhelmingly on his side and Kramnik is the token villain. All he had to do was ignore it or laugh it off, but the fact that he got so triggered and defensive about it in the last 12 months is essentially an admission of guilt.
If someone accuses you of stealing a cookie from the cookie jar, a normal reaction would be to laugh about it and go "ok whatever." But if you actually did steal the cookie, an autistic response would be to start a crusade and show charts and graphs about how it is mathematically impossible to steal the cookie. By someone who has their brain rotted by chess their whole life, the latter seems to be an "appropriate" response and makes you "look innocent," but it actually does the opposite.
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>>96809601
This post says more about you(r position) than him.
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>>96813550
>be also thin skinned

What you're describing is a person that has a thick skin and gives zero fucks. See Hans and the buttplug accusation. From the reigning champ no less.
Danya simply wasn't fit enough for years torment
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>>96813630
Yeah I was going to mention Hans as a contrast. He basically did what you should do when accused of bullshit. Hans basically refused to acknowledge and just said "yeah whatever, my lawyer will be in touch, now fuck off." And then surprise surprise he was found to be innocent. And of course he knew this, which is why he felt no need to respond to the ridiculous accusations. Naroditsky basically did the exact opposite of this (and thus by extension means he probably actually did the shit Kramnik accused him of).
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>>96813650
>and thus by extension means he probably actually did the shit Kramnik accused him of
Having a different mindset is not the same as being guilty
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So many low IQ posts ITT holy shit. No wonder the average Elo here is 1500.
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>>96813650
it's probably why navarra overreacted as well. kramnik wasn't even accusing him of anything but when you're guilty, being suddenly put in the spotlight can make you panic and make you overly paranoid. despite everyone having their backs, their conscience didn't let them feel secure. even one person suspecting them was too much to bear.
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New Levy video just dropped

Basically
>he reads a tweet from a GM accusing Naroditsky of having fake friends and "not doing more to help"
>Levy of course gets triggered and defensive because the truth hurts

For real though. What is the timeline here?
His "friends" came to his house to check up on him and force him to end the stream, but then he kills himself like 2 hours later. So what happened? Did they just talk to him for a few minutes and then dip? I'm sorry, but those are not by any stretch of the definition "real friends." A real friend would spend the night and watch them and tell them not to do dumb shit, not put in their good boy points and then leave. This is of course assuming he didn't OD and the damage was already done by the time they got there.
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>>96810580
>Main difference is that Hans did cheat in online games. Only after that match against Magnus, chess.com made their investigation and banned him
Again, that'd be fine, if there was consistency. But chess.com admitted themselves that they found evidence that several GMs had cheated in online matches but refused to name them or apply similar sanctions. And it was such an obvious scraping for literally anything to justify the hate-campaign against Hans.
>It could easily bring Hans to the brink, if he was susceptible to it.
This is it. Hans was bullied online since he first showed up on pogchamps at a very young age so he developed very thick skin and a very antisocial persona. You shouldn't have to literally die before people get upset at the way you've been treated.
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>>96813960
>but then he kills himself like 2 hours later
He was alive the next day and played in the Comet thing. Also he didn't kill himself but OD'd.
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>>96813960
>he kills himself like 2 hours later

no evidence he killed himself, he was found on the couch and there was no note despite him being the wordy type. most likely he just OD'd or heart gave out from too many performance enhancing drugs that he was taking for that big online tourney, maybe he thought he could win it if he maxxed everything out. who knows...
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>>96813995
ODs should be classed as suicide, regardless of whether or not they were intentional. Being a drug addict is a conscious choice to voluntarily damage your own health, it's just choosing a prolonged death as opposed to an instantaneous one.
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Emil's statement is truth but people don't want to hear it. Whenever someone dies, everyone who had the tiniest interaction with them claims to be their friend for clout.
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>>96813887
There are very few things in the world that are a better indicator of high IQ than being bad at chess and knowing that getting good at it is a waste of time.
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>>96814072
The usual suspects are trying to make it about them and are looking for a scapegoat. It's pathetic.
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>>96806934
Kramnik was his hero and Kramnik spent the last two years accusing him of cheating and basically drove him to his death. now he's dead and Kramnik is tweeting shit like this >>96806963
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>>96806963

Driving someone to kill themselves and then posting a winky face emoji is the most gigachad thing I've ever seen. This is a level of alpha I can barely comprehend.
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>>96814163
Unlike what predditors want you to believe, he posted this before Daniel's death.
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>>96814184
Yeah I kind of figured, but it's still funny though.
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>>96813630
>See Hans and the buttplug accusation.
No one took that seriously except some journo-retards. Stop acting like it was an actual accusation.
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>>96813960
>Emil: I didn't see his friends support him online, so where were they?
It's time to ask whether Emil has object permanence.
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How does this straight forward game manage to come up with one drama after the other
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>>96814662
Schizophrenia is a prerequisite to enjoying and being good at chess. This makes it a magnet for drama
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>>96814662
It's played by schizos, autists, jews, poos, chinks, and manlets.
It also attracts a ton of sociopaths and narcissists because people with low self esteem and self worth want to appear smart so they think learning and getting good at chess will give them this kind of prestige. And when this doesn't fill that void in their soul, that is when the comical mental illness starts.
With all of this in the mix, you are bound to get some juicy drama.
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>>96814280
It was repeated by literally everyone in the chess world, even if as a joke. IASIP even dedicated an entire episode to it and making fun of the insinuation.
You have to be deranged to think that wouldn't mentally hurt you to be known as the buttplug guy.
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>>96814723
>manlets
eat shit, dude.
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>>96814723
~1700 is the definitive cool guy elo. 2000+ begins what you describe.
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>>96814835
Come again? I can't hear you from up here.
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>>96808234
>Magnus came out and said Kramnik was being terrible and unfair, dishonest
the hypocrisy is unreal.
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He's gonna sue Gotham?
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>>96814924
Reddit Inc, I bet.
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Danya gets Brandon Jacobson banned on chess.com because he lost a blitz match against him when Jacobson exchange sacrificed a rook on move 2 every game. Danya doesn't say Jacobson wasn't cheating because he "doesn't want to get into chess drama" but then cries when others don't defend him because they don't want to get into his chess drama.
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>>96814738
>You have to be deranged to think that wouldn't mentally hurt you to be known as the buttplug guy.
I'm already known as far worse. Embrace the degeneracy. Surround yourself with it. Use it as a shield.
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>>96814924
i hope he sues that would be so funny
doesnt even matter who is sued or who wins guaranteed good times
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>>96814738
It's too easy to make fun of Hans because he's not only unlikable but also an awkward nerd with a cheating history he admitted to.
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>>96814924
people don't get that he's probably experiencing a never ending orgasm due to all the attention he's getting right now, that's all he ever wanted. They think shitting on him is hurting him but this is the first time he's been relevant in 20 years
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>>96814978
>exchange sacrificed a rook on move 2
how does that work
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>>96812246
spiritually it's cheating thus it will eventually destroy you
by official chess standards the drugs only matter in competition, but it's not like players are forced to piss in cups, so i'm sure there's tons of modafinil or whatever floating around
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>>96815555
1.a4 e6 2 ra3 bxa3

https://www.chess.com/game/live/108382226803?username=viih_sou&move=1
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>>96815555
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BobUespiXR8
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>>96815840
>>96815878
wtf
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>>96815555
It creates a positional imbalance that is not easy to understand completely. A GM becoming a specialist in something like that is worth significant material in blitz and especially bullet. Also the adjusted rook value changes dramatically over the course of a game. Sacking a rook immediately for a bishop means there's a huge potential to dominate diagonals and is especially good if the opponent never gets the time to develop their rooks.
Danya was also pretty paranoid about cheaters after encountering them so much in his smurf account runs. At that level it's easy to merely check Stockfish to see who cheats. But in this particular case that isn't enough and you really can falsely accuse specialists.
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>>96813507
>baseless
anyone you see use this word is just parroting reddit narratives
>>96813786
the allegations speak for themselves


naroditsky was unfortunately surrounded by betas, here's an 6'5" alpha chad explaining the proper way to handle these situations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5soHHweOKQ

>In an October 2024 interview with the C-Squared podcast, Naroditsky called Kramnik’s campaign “a sustained, evil and absolutely unhinged attempt to destroy my life.” He added: “He is trying to ruin my life, he’s trying to inflict emotional harm, physical harm on me. He knows exactly what he’s doing.”
this level of neuroticism Danya displayed is very revealing and it needed to be challenged instead of having people feed into that delusion; Kramnik was just calling you out for cheating bro & a lot of people were convinced by his argument, it ain't that serious
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>>96807864
1000 is much stronger now than it was 5+ years ago.
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>>96805040
There's an unedited comment of SAVEDANYA under this video from 11 months ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJUjHGopVeI
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New real chess general:
>>>/vg/543572370
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>>96816587
Ops that the previous one
Real real chess general:
>>>/vg/543669552
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>>96812855
Sort of seemed like he was acting right at the end of the stream the way he said that stuff about playing until the next loss which would maybe be never
>>96813075
The people who run entertainment figures have all the money in the world
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>>96806196
>Jewish
>Not a GM
>youtuber first and foremost
You're on 4chan, any one of those is sufficient
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>>96815003
Hopefully both will be banned from social media.
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>>96809655
The difference is Hans is an unlikeable faggot and that matters a lot. Same with Kramnik for being schizophrenic and worse, Russian.
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>>96814662
Becoming good at chess requires an enormous amount of time. If then something goes wrong, you... scream. And if you're facing someone that took a shortcut (a cheater), you scream louder than ever.
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>>96817262
>bullying people is fine as long as they're not charismatic
Oh, thanks for cleating that up
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>>96817338
When did I say it's okay you retard? I just said that's why there's a difference.
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Thank god no chess drama will ever stop comfy streams like this:
U.S. Chess Championships: Round 9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Dt3-KyjLyE
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what'd he die of ?
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>>96817935
he 41%ed
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>>96817935
his heart was too big for this world :(
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>>96817935
a deal with the devil
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>>96817935
guilt? idk
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>>96817935
after googling a bit, it seems everyone wants kramnik to be the villain, but what if kramnik is right and danya just took too many drugs ? happens to the best of us
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kramnik did nothing wrong
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>>96817976
multiple things can be true at the same time. danya got caught in drugs because he was targeted by the uberchud
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>>96817976
More than one thing can be true. It seems pretty clear that people want someone to blame. And Kramnik is a bad person who definitely didn't help.
But also, he's correct. He pointed out beforehand that Danya was in a bad place and needed support. And that makes it especially bad. Because all these people who are outraged didn't care until Danya died. So it makes them hate him even more in lieu of acknowledging their own shittiness.
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>>96817935
nerve gas kramink got some from his putin buddy and kilt him rip
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>>96818315
Well said.
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>>96807864
>aren't chess.com ratings super inflated?
only the very top
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still cant believe danya was gone. like most people here. i always looked forward to watching his late night streams. now theres nothing to look forward to.
its so surreal
this is the first time i cried over an eceleb
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>>96813321
no the grandson in White Lotus season 2 that falls in love with the hooker
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>>96817935
Died of cringe after watching a levy stream
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>>96820558
Turned it off because he didn't start with "ladies and gentlemen..."
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>>96820558
>i'm so sad that i'm demonitizing this video
>fide should do something
>haha, i'm not going to mention that I did a cozzy buddy buddy interview with Kramnik: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDeQ-CmeZaU
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>>96820887
wtf, it's private now. well shorts are still up there: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9h6m0reojCs
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I hope that Kramnik and at least some of you posters here (and especially /vg/) wake up one day and find a way to overcome your absolutely vicious and vile envy of him.
Rest in peace Danya.
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>>96814924
>blyaaaaaaat they're attacking me for what I did!! HELP ME
I hate rusniggers so much it's unreal.
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>>96814924
>zis ees lussophobic1 *chitinous noises*
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>>96821228
>>96821436
Stop defending cheaters
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>>96815513
>is the first time he's been relevant in 20 years
He's irrelevant.
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>>96821228
Get better at chess or kys as well, nazi nigger.
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>>96804143
Welcome to 4chan.
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>>96804130
Feel free to open an "in memory" thread where you show his best games.
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>>96804038
>European Chess Club
Round 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq0K7NvfLb4
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>>96820558
yeah that shit was super gay.
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>>96821443
Let's just assume that he cheated once for a moment. Two things still remain, firstly it was just an online game, even if he cheated once, is it really worth ruining a proven player's reputation over? I mean its not like Danya was a loud mouth, he seemed really humble, at least from what we know of.

Secondly, even if you were to think cheating even once is an absolute disrespect, is it really worth ruining a young life over? I know it's hard to make the distinction at times but at end of the day, chess is really just a game.
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>>96822696
>is it really worth ruining a young life over?
i feel bad for the guy if he had addiction and/or mental illness issues but there's definitely better ways to handle people talking negatively about him than doing drugs or killing himself, whatever happened. if someone is a public figure it's kind of part of the game. every person that has any smidge of fame gets a lot of detractors. the best thing to do in that scenario is to step away from the internet for awhile or not do drugs and take care of himself. or just develop a thick skin if you want to keep being a public figure and tell kramnik and people who agreed with him to fuck off and live his best life. when people are in a bad mental state its hard to think like that, but yeah. for me kramnik didn't kill naroditsky, he killed himself whether it was an accident or on purpose.
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>>96821831
>nazis
were right about you russians.
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>>96822579
But is Hans playing? No? Then who cares?
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>>96822696
>chess is really just a game
It's a sport.
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wow
chess dot cum at it again huh
first they witch-hunt Hans over unfounded OTB cheating allegation against him, now they witch-hunt Kramnik over making unfounded online cheating allegations

what a terrible website, run by terrible people
"chess mafia" is right, they are some kind of weird clique desperate to monetize the sport FIDE regulates and to protect their own

the only reason they're going after Kramnik is because he blew up their spot
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>>96813016
chess dot cum unironically
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Kramnik and his russian bodies, along with the FIDE guys Russians and Russian Jews that lived throughout the former USSR are clearly foreign agents

This is just like that show with Furiosa.

trump needs to ban FIDE
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>>96808209
>lend some credence to the idea
Legit question. Is this a common idiom? What type of a person talks like that?
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>>96825363
yes it's common. sounds like something yasser would say
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>>96825498
>yasser
aaah I forgot he's on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUo3ishrpmQ
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Um...based department?
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>>96825913
Since it's twatter's retarded interface I can't tell who posted first.
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>>96804744
means it's worse than we thought
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>Some junkie OD and reddit niggers are mad at some some literal who russian boomer who said he's a cheater
So much drama over chess, if these people spent all that time playing games and studying instead of being faggots online they would actually be decent at chess kek
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>>96817935
To be good at chess is the sign of a gentleman, to be a master at chess is the sign of a wasted life.
>Paul Morphy
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>>96825913
This is it.
Maybe I'm wrong and I'll welcome any evidence that I am. But I have seen literally zero concern about the effect the cheating allegations had on Danya's health until he died and now everyone's acting like Kramnik bullied him to death. Maybe he did. But as far as I've seen, no one really gave a shit.
And, to keep beating a dead horse, none of these people hounding Kramnik are hounding Magnus and Hikaru over the Hans situation.
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>>96826781
Apocryphal quote, btw.
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>>96826809
Perhaps but the quote itself rings true about the nature of things.
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>>96826806
Its sad he died but this is doing wonders for the chess community by driving up engagement and getting people interested in the game. Drama keeps things healthy by giving the plebs something to take interest in outside of the games themselves. Its like off the court sports drama in football and soccer.
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>>96826882
The problem is that the majority of GMs and commentators are insufferable retards with zero charisma.
It's no coincidence that Hans drove engagement up so much because, even though he's a dick, he's so much more interesting and likeable than the majority of autistic fags with zero personality.
And then there's the issue with actually following the game. I know people clown on Gotham, but he's probably the single most influential player/streamer on the planet and deserves commendation on bringing it to the masses. He's the only popular figure I can think of who covers chess news consistently and in an approachable way.
Every time anything happens he makes a clickbait video that breaks down exactly what happened and why it's important. And then he analyses recent chess matches, again breaking them down for normies.
The average person with a passing interest in chess isn't going to chesscom and then navigating to 'watch' and then figuring out which tournament might be relevant and then trying to figure out which game in that tournament is the best to watch. It's too convoluted and stupid.
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wesley a man of reason
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>>96826990
Okay now say the same to Carlsen, Nakamura, and Caruana right?
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>3 losses in the past 4 games
Hansbros...I don't feel so good...
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>>96820887
>>96820890
>It's private
Lol, jews
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>>96825363
It's common enough, esl spic
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>>96827022
it's because they had buttplug detectors this time
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>>96827135
How many rounds left?
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>>96826945
Chess is hard. It needs other things going on to make it interesting to normies. Heck the last time Americans took interest in it was because Fisher beat the soviets. They didn't understand the game they just liked the idea of being better than the soviets at something.
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>>96827154
Last round tomorrow
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I wish I were Kramnik
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>>96827163
>Hans won't even be in the top 3
Grim.
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hans was preoccupied with the danya stuff... he was in his final VOD abort-stalling him
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>>96827237
Hans is too good for this world
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>>96827306
Frens :-)
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I cannot move on bros
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>>96827456
Can't you sidestep the problem? https://www.chess.com/terms/sideways-pawns-chess
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Is it any good?
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>>96804038
I'm extremely depressed that Anna Maja Kazarian waxed or lasered her beautiful forearm hair and she has had nothing for like a year now. She used to be so hairy, but then some idiots commented negatively on it on Youtube. What do?
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>>96828593
Marry her.
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Why chess is so poorly monetized?
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A while ago, I was brainstorming for variant pieces for a chess-themed RPG I wanted to make, called "Caissa's Crusaders". I've only really gotten as far as drawing up the piece graphics and most of the movesets for each piece, but here's what I have so far.

The pieces near the top are the newest ones (everything from the Pig upward), and I haven't quite decided on movesets for them yet. If there's interest, I'll post my spreadsheet with what I have so far.
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>>96828627
Would have back in the day, but now that she's ruined her arm hair forever...
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>>96828664
You want people to pay licenses for their chessboards? Pay per game? What exactly do you want to see monetized?
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Daniel could've lived if he stopped cheating and played online at the same level as his OTB play.
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>>96828995
he beat caruana once OTB with black. so he died because he couldn't stop lying, which is different than being over-rated.
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>>96806507
>Hax$
i don't know anything about the smash community but i decided to go down that rabbit hole after your comment. that one is way more messed up. that community is beyond saving with how many faggots and trannies run things. Hax$ seemed like a genuine guy and it left me depressed learning about his fate.
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>>96828664
The money is not that bad, but only the top players get it: https://liquipedia.net/chess/Portal:Statistics/Player_earnings
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Basic question, but what should I do/read if I want to get better at chess? I'm complete shit, around 900 elo on chess.com.
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>>96829500
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ngl 8 losses in a row to a pajeet would make me want to kill myself too
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Real chess general
>>>/vg/543851643
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>>96830303
damn it's way more active you're right, thank you anon
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>>96828854
I'm supposed to remember how they move? That's insane anon.
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>>96827163
>So v Oparin
what happens after tie if Fabi draws and Wesley wins? because Wesley is going to win
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>>96830167
Nihal is pretty based, it's an honour playing against him.
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I would be sympathetic if Daniel didn't cheat
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>>96830907
Playoffs
https://saintlouischessclub.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/2025-U.S.-U.S.-Womens-Championships-Regulations-Schedule-of-Events.pdf
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>>96829500
https://listudy.org



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