>Previous thread:>>96771183>What is /awg/?A thread to talk about minis and games which fall between the cracks, or peoples' homebrew wargames.The >>>/tg/hwg thread doesn't entertain fantasy (for good reason) and the other threads are locked to more specific games.This thread isn't tied to a game, a publisher, or a genre, let's just talk about fun wargames. Any scale, any company, any miniatures.>Examples of games that qualify.A Song of Ice and Fire, Argatoria, Batman Miniature Game, Carnevale, Conquest: The Last Argument of Kings,Deadzone, Dragon Rampant, Dropfleet and Dropzone Commander, Freebooter's Fate, Frostgrave, Gaslands, Judge Dredd, HeroClix, Kings of War, Maelstrom's Edge, Malifaux, Marvel Crisis Protocol, Masters of the Universe: Battleground, Moonstone,Oathmark, OnePageRules, RelicBlade, Rumbleslam, Stargrave, Sludge, Urban War, Void, Warcaster, Warmachine, Xenos Rampant, Xenotactics......and anything else that doesn't necessarily have a dedicated thread.>Examples of companies providing rules and/or miniatures for alternative wargames.Archon Studio, Atomic Mass Games, Black Site Studios, CMON, Mantic, North Star Military Figures,OnePageRules, Osprey, Para Bellum, Seb Games, Spellcrow, TTCombat, Victrix, Wargames Atlantic, Warlord Games......and many other publishers.>Places to get minis; Updates to the minis list are welcome.https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D2DbNJ2mYAUxh5P9Pq9NZqS5tXHGn0i2JhZchEwbA2I/edithttps://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/373197.page>Novice Troves, meant to serve as a sampler of available systems. Check out the Share Thread for up-to-date troves.https://pastebin.com/MjtsC8AXhttps://mega.nz/#F!zSYW0I4a!vXh8-UPi_tWXpJES_-p4zg>Hobby Challenge theme for Octoberhttps://strawpoll.com/GPgVYBPYEna/results>TQWhat alternative wargame has the best art/art direction?
>>96804587Conquest
>>96804587TQ: Frostgrave, for the consistency relic for the uniqueness
Halloween project update: 20/20 ghouls painted, on to basing them and prepping spooks
>>96805223Funnily enough, Frostgrave actually got a new artist for the new edition.1st edition and its expansions are Dmitry and Kate Burmak, 2nd edition is a guy called ªRU-MOR
>>96804587Anyone with Paulb Booner or Adrian smith. I really like warmachine, if it wasn0t for the pauldroncore and cartoony proportions. Hell I love a lot of warmachine and hate a lot whole bunch, so close to good.
>>96805672>ªRU-MORWith that name, I can sense the chunin. Hell, sounds like slav chunin, the most try hard of them all.
One of my Halloween models.
>>96804587Conquest. The new lorebook has really cool art.
Does Don't Look Back count as an AWG? Also do any of the Repos have the core? Been trying to find a pdf so I can see if I like it.
>>96804587>TQI personally like oathmark. I just like the art, I think it all looks neat
>>96804587Arcworlde, the minis are the art style
>>96806902It's very plausible fantasy, something you could see in a world with orcs or elfs, to exist, very down to earth.
>>96806902Is Oathmark alternating activation? Looking for something where both players are constantly being active for kids and teens to play as part of my job.
>>96807153Yeah it's alternating activation. Commander units allow multiple unit to activate at the same time.
>>96807356Thank you. Trying to keep so-called "troubled" students focused on something that is not a Tik Tok video is surprisingly hard. Still, if I can help the kids I damn well do whatever it takes. I'll even use my own money for minis and paints if it means maybe, just maybe getting kids to sit down and do some constructive hobby work of their own choice.
>>96806256Actually it's a Spanish woman. Not that it helps a lot, as the spa osh are also massive weebs (just look at infinity)https://www.ospreypublishing.com/uk/author/arumor/And I believe the term your were looking for is "chuuni".
>>96807548Oh, OH i know this one, she just made some pop culture with glaring errors for a magazine about history for spain, it had quite the bad rep, even the magazine had to make a public apologize.Hell, the world is small.
What would be a good build for a malstrain infected corpse grinder gang?
>>96806326I voted for cavalry in the (rigged) poll as I was working on my sipahi, which were quite nice to paint actually.
>>96807607I think you posted this in the wrong thread.
>>96807624whoops
>>96807388Good for you. Doing God's work.Oathmark is very simple too, it only took me 30 mins to teach my boomer dad to play and the math for figuring stuff out can be all done in the head.
>>96798765Fair enough. I just think you are overthinking this.>anon brings up solo gaming as a saving grace>I ask what is the best solo gameAt this point I know whatever answer I get will just be one opinion and may not translate to my own taste. This should be common understanding. I don’t preface everything I say with>what in your opinion is the best _____I simply ask you what is best. And I know it’s just your opinion. I could have been more specific about my own preferences but I’m curious what other people like most. I’ll try most games. I look to expand. I enjoy complex as much as casual. Five Leagues/Parsecs assuming those were your recommendations I will give them a shot. I have heard of them before but I didn’t actually know they were solo games. I like the idea of playing solo.
>>96808998Five Parsecs is fun anon. I mean the actual tabletop wargame isn't going to blow your socks off but it's just the fun of all the d100 charts and making a story and all that
>>96809730I’ll try parsecs first then. It’s funny even though I consider sci fi to be my preferred genre I tend to read, paint, and play fantasy much more. This will give me a good chance to do so. Tell me about your aliens they look cool.
>>96804587>What alternative wargame has the best art/art direction?I'm gonna say it's still confrontation. 20 years and I dont think anybody else has touched that peak.
>>96810346Meh.
>>96808776Thank you, Anon. I'm trying to help kids so they do not end up as much of a fuckup as I was/am. As an added bonus, it gives them a non-screen hobby and I get the added bonus of playing games with fresh players.
>>96804587>TQ Pillage
>>96810346I recently bought Paul Bonner's art book, and he's a beast. All the work he did for Confrontation really paid off.
>>96811067
>>96808998Fallout Wasteland warfare is actually the best, content and rule wise. The "five..." Games are good in that regard that you can homebrew them easily to suit your very specific needs better. But they are still very basic in the gameplay department. But fallout is the more complex and complete experience
>>96805223>>96806902I like both Frostgrave and Oathmark a LOT. My brother wants to play Mordheim though and he never wants to do any tabletop so I'm gonna make it happen.
>>96812066Do it. One of the greatest, not fair, not balanced, but still great.
>>96812248We played WH skirmish back in le day so it is a nice thing to do together. I have a smattering of Frostgrave stuff and WGA stuff like Town Guards so it shouldn't be too hard to get something happening. Wouldn't mind using some other Renaissance models in sympathetic colour schemes but might not be necessary, trying to have a lean 2026 instead of consooming.
>>96812484>trying to have a lean 2026 instead of consoomingI feel you, senpai.I'm buying the last missing pieces for my ancient Greek/Successors armies and focus on trimming down my collection next year. I have a LOT of shit I bought on the secondary market for cheap like WW2 1:35 vehicles to convert for alternative wargames but with every passing season it becomes more and more clear I won't finish 90% of the projects I had in mind at some point.
>>96812035Is there a huge difference between Wasteland Warfare and Fallout Factions? Is it just a new edition?
For those of you playing Conquest, I'm reading the 2.0 version of conquest legends but I'm confused about how Reknown Levels work. The pdf says they get the benefits and abilities indicated in the Reknown Level Chart but all I see is starting levels for units. Am I missing something or am I retarded?
>>96811224Oh yeah Bonner is incredible. It bought Trudvang Legends just for him. Looking forward to Feywyn
What the fuck happened with gooners, how did they become so brazen to be doing this shit in public? Do people not even feel shame anymore?
>>96813280Whats wrong with naked Berserkers?
>>96813280First of all, >>>/tg/hwg is that way.Secondly, naked barbarians - especially berserkers - are fine.Thirdly, I pity you neo-Puritan golem. To feel threatened by a naked toy soldier that is one step away from Venus of Willendorf is simply pathetic.
>>96813423So do you still feel shame behind that coping?Or has the cope become "real"?
>>96813462I'm sorry Anon - I can't really relate with your morality and ethics since I'm not scared of naked women. Especially of the not-real ones.
>>96813423>female vikings>historical
>>96813772Yes. There is indeed evidence of that. Not that you actually care, really. As for gooners, I really don't care what they do with their own models. If they start to demand that I should play with naked models, I might have an issue.
>>96813500>scared>threatened Unless you're jacking off at the table, nobody's scared or threatened by you.Just disgusted.
Am I hallucinating hereSo there's the game Guards of Traitor's Toll which released with plastic sprues of not-quite modular miniatures, because there's a real variety in body shapes and sizes.But then at the same time, Wargames Atlantic or someone also released some plastic "Town Guards"?
>>96813990The Wargames Atlantic Town Guards ARE the plastics for Guards of Traitor's Toll. WGA worked out a deal to produce the sprues for Grey for Now games and to sell them as independent boxes because they make good RPG fodder.They also did the plastics for GFN's WW2 infiltration game 0600 Hours, which is why you can buy plastics Nazis with guard dogs.
>>96814052>plastics Nazisaka "HIPS only" -purists
>>96813280>naked female minatures I know your baiting for replies but that guy is based as fuck.
>>96813792It's all lefty revisionist horseshite.
>>96814219Facts don't care about your feelings, dear.
>>96813829>Just disgusted.Lmao, cope.
>>96813792>dude I have no convictions at all, just let people do whatever degenerate shit they want.. how does the moral degradation of society affect you personally??? What a cringe take
>>96814155I meant specifically this set, which was also the core of the 0600 starter. Grey for Now also has metal character figures available, but their starter set was done in plastic, I assume to make a more attractive purchase.
>>96814316>Ameridumb zoomie so scared of his trans girlfriend (male) accusing him of looking at her without consent on Xitter he honestly believes the rest of the planet is not capable of having a reasonable and healthy attitude towards sexualityWhat a cringe take. The fact you are not able to handle something doesn't make it a degeneracy. I'm sorry you were born into a Puritan hellhole but you have no one to blame but yourself for not outgrowing the idiocy of your local community.
>>96804587>What alternative wargame has the best art/art direction?It's certainly not the best on a technical level but I really appreciate Quar going for something nobody else has with its whimsical watercolor muppet rendition of WW1
>>96814316Covering females is way more degenerate shit than showing tits in public.
>>96814219Exactly. Warrior women only exist in buzzfeed articles.
>>96812611You're not retarded. That's a holdover from the 1.5 version of the rules, which were more fleshed out for narrative play, but only had entries up through Wadrhun releases. Since the jump to 2.0, the Narrative system has fallen behind in updates, and is currently in limbo.There are apparently plans to eventually do a proper overhaul for the narrative system, as there are quite a few people asking for it to be brought up to speed, but it's currently on the back burner for some reason or another.
>>96814408>>96814477>being a porn addicted gooner in public is actually.... LE STUNNING AND BRAVE
>>96814408
>>96814612Ironic, your take is more fitting for a plebbit free thinker than mine.
>>96814710This nigger is actually comparing a big fat exaggerated bodacious gooner model to classical artistic nudity LMAO
>>96813280A lack of bullying in schools combined with early access to the the internet, which is full of fetish-focused users and communities that teach people that fetishes are what define them as individuals. The painting is pretty good at least.
>>96814573Google the definition of porn you sperg. Naked bodies isn't porn.
>>96814969>defending gooner coom shit on 4chan I'll be praying for you
>>96813829Matter of fact I am jacking off at the table, come at me(if you want to get jizz all over the front of your shirt)
>>96815028You were just about to give them a wash, right?
>>96815130I'll give you a wash, I got enough for everybody in this thread.
I think i might get into Trench Crusade after all
>>96814316>someone playing with naked berserkers = moral degradation of societylmaoYou larpers are pretty funny sometimes, you know.
>>96814467Agreed. However I wish the vehicles were a bit closer to realistic than whimsy sometimes.
>>96815252Yeah I’m sold on this in particular. Hopefully they did more boxed warbands.
>>96815252I remain unconvinced that universe should even have a Prussia.
>>96815330Fun fact, his pictures got less replies over at facebook than here.
>>96815457Only boomers are left on FB. It's going to be a literal graveyard in 15 years.
>>96812591Diferent games, same minis. Factions is more focused to skirmishes. Think of it as "Fallout Necromunda".
>>968132801. The only issue there is the all female warband in a historical game2. Naked berserkers are fine3. That's a decent paintjob, and female armies are fine to fieldIf your that het up over a single naked mini then you really do not want to face a Celtic army. I've painted more British pubes than I care to think.
>>96815028Where are those girls from.... I've found my chubby goth GF figure.
>>96815436I mean lore wise it maybe you’re right (I don’t follow the lore but it just sees like ww1 in Jerusalem and Germans are already the bad guys Plus bible fanfic) but product wise 100% yes they should. There needs to be new varied stuff to keep people buying to keep the game relevant. It caused a stir no reason to let it die for lore integrity when the lore only exists to justify the art
>>96815024Yes. Welcome to /tg/ on 4chan, the board that helped thousands discover new fetishes and has a proud history of cheesecake.Reddit might, unironically, be more your speed.
>>96815527The bodies/legs I’m almost certain are from Way of Kings the House Nasier. I’m not sure about heads.
>>96812591>>96815478This. Factions was literally written by the writer of Necromunda. Its gangs or raiders and other, well, factions of the wasteland fighting against each other.You could do the same with Wasteland Warfare, but its focus is clearly the rpg-lite-ish aspect, potentially solo, in which you explore the wasteland and evolve your characters.
>>96815579Thanks. Now to look on ebay for some cheap used figures.
>>96813280Embracing being a gooner has become a joke online, and like any joke it eventually attracts people who do not realize it is a joke
>>96810346Same. Cadwallon on its own is obscene with every single page having a unique background. Sad that it never came back to life properly.
>>96815252Will these be STLs? I like Teutons.
>>96814710Why don’t gooners have minis of marble statues and paint on them? That would be kino
>>96815821Plastic miniatures, done by Archon Studio
>>96815604The game is fun, and quick enough. Would like more liberty to equip the minis. Minis usually have 3 types ef equipment combination.
>>96815527>>96815579 is right, Wrath of Kings Nasier. They were in the starter box, but I hear they're a pain to find. If you just want 1 to finish your graveyard, I'll send you one.
>>96815964I found one on ebay for cheap. As soon as Im home I'll buy it. Thx though.
>>96815579The head and arms are Warhammer dark eldar wyches
>>96809851They're from Checkpoint Miniatures who do fairly cheap metals
>>96814155I laughed>>96815996Excellent, I will monitor the terrain thread for improvements
>>96814375German shepherd from china.
>>96816480No, that's just all the amphetamines in his kibble.
>>96816480Fu dogs were most likely tibetan mastins.
>>96816685No, fuck you !
>>96813280
>>96815252Are these 28mm or 32mm slop?
>>96817061Trench is 32mm
I have a silly question. Do you know any game where facing matters so 90° firing arc templates are being used? I want to print paper templates but since I'm lazy I concluded there must be a game with such templates included in the rulebook but honestly, I have a hard time to find one.
(Crossposting with /hwg/) Anyone know where I can get 28mm/heroic scale motorcycles? Ideally plastic. I am in the process of making a generic rebel army using WW1/2 Krauts and want to make bike infantry for them.
>>96817383As far as I understand most of them just mark the base and then use a ruler or a stick to check the facing.
>>96812035>Fallout Wasteland warfarebased, played a real good solo mission against raiders that had converted a nuka cola machine into a nuka nuke bomb. Very nearly lost but had a last turn crit to trigger that killed the guy who was about to set off the bomb
>>96817383Necromunda uses arcs
>>96817383There's a milsim-ish one I don't remember the name of with different firing arcs for left and right sides to reflect the fact that most people are right handed and slower to react on their right side with rifles because of it.
>>96815252Fuck it, I'm in.
New hundred kingdom stuff looks good, much better than the wood elf stuff. Is the game/lore good?
>>96814467Quar is my favourite.
>>96815252I don't really suggest it. I'm planning on getting the vampire knights for christ if they're good but the game looks kinda okay.>>96815436The settings makes no sense on any level>turkish empire exists and all muslims charged to this space that occupies persia and yet it cribs ottoman designs>no explanation as to what the fuck is going on over the world (i.e. hell gates just open everywhere.)>cosmologically doesn't make sense. (pit locusts and demons spill out of the hell gate but can't do that for some reason.)>demon diseases allowed to spill out from demon fliesI hope the door at the bottom of hell opens up and all the demons see it's just god looking very disappointed in them.
>>96815517It's bad bait andit has been posted before. Tittymodels are traditional gaming, but forcing them (or your fetish) is not. As ever there is a happy medium where naked Gauls make sense and your Slaaneshi Rapenaut at the convention where families are present does not.>>96815252I think I prefer the kitbashes people have been doing. >>96815436During the Crusades Prussia was mostly being ridden over and force converted.
I have many miniaturesOnly one could be described as cheesecake. I liked the model but didn't realise it was a naked woman at his feet and not a pile of rocks.
>>96818606Okay? You want a medal or something?
>>96818619Please. And a couple of pots of old Citadel chestnut ink please mate. And the mental clarity to paint at least one miniature every day for weeks at a time.
Running some "Don't Look Back" for Halloween.Just have to finish up a few more minis. Hast anybody played before? The game seems fun, but I was Windering about the replay value.
>>96805487 What game?
>>96819097>your gf and the guy she tells you not to worry about
Played a game of K47, British Indian Army vs Axis. Ended up being a narrow BIA win when the Vogelspinne failed two order checks in a row and wasn't able to tag the objective. British Automated Infantry have crazy damage output if you give them HMGs, but they're really fragile.
>>96819232Most notable moment was when the Axis commander hit the Hornet with his panzerfaust, rolled superficial damage, and spent a point of Guts to upgrade it to full damage, which destroyed the mech.Was a fun game.
>>96819260Happen to have any pictures of the smaller mechs you could post, please? Looks like a fun game!
>>96819232>>96819260Hmm Ettin Games LGS in Albuquerque New Mexico.... I'm coming for you Pajeet
>>96817383Search "wargaming 90 degree arc widget", they're all over the place.Or buy a cheap arc template from an art supply store (they cost a few dollars). Mark off a 28mm arc and a 40mm one. Use a protractor to cut a 90-degree angle on the sides. >>96817429Warlord's Project Z game had a box of biker gang guys on hawgs. Not quite what you're looking for, and it's OOP, but it's the only plastic motorcycles I'm aware of in 28mm. Which of course means Wargames Atlantic somehow has a kit in the works for Q3 of 2027 and Warlord will announce their new Bolt Action box in Q1 2028, going by past experience. If you're willing to skip the plastic, though, Hot Wheels and Matchbox motorcycles are in "box scale". Which usually makes them roughly 28mm. Same goes for a lot of their other really small things like golf carts and some trailers. Unless it's a crazy collectors' item most cost a buck or two at worst, less if you're willing to root through bins at the local thrift shop/swap meet/antique store. There are even snow-bike chasses you could strip to make kettekrad if you felt like it. >>96819097It's all right. I like the minis. The game itself somehow feels like a boardgame without the grid, if that makes sense. Too many meta-mechanics like the teleporting killer and manipulating the toggling lights. Fits for the genre, feels weird for a skirmish game
>>96819232Looks like the Krauts couldn't handle the spice.
>>96819313based geoguesser
>>96819268These guys? They're my Automated Infantry. Massively scaled down from an Armiger proxy from MMF>>96819313Congrats on recognizing me from /btg/
>>96819336I've decided to use the red monoeye as the distinct thing for my automated units, so all the robots get it (and the semi-robotic Merlin)
>>96819336>These guys? They're my Automated Infantry. Massively scaled down from an Armiger proxy from MMFThank you. I was hoping to discover a new, plastic mech/walker but plum out of luck this time. Funny to see /btg/ posted. I recognize your backdrop from that, but stopped going there years back when the jannies refused to ban that Anon who was showing off his ass and using the general like Grindr.
>>96819313Looks like you're right. I'm in Kirtland so I'm gonna stop by most week nights until I see his stupid pajeets in the store and I'll get a photo
>>96819364What good will taking a picture of my minis do?
>>96819336If some asshole bursts into the store, screaming "PAJEET!", make sure you film it for us.
>>96819377Of your fat ass, Ramjeep
>>96819397What good will taking a picture of me do?
>>96819405So he can jerk off to it.
>>96819405He just needs a friend, okay?
>Day 4: No sight of the PAJEETplayer, had to relocate to the pastryshop after the clerks in the store got too suspicious. Folks here are more lenient as long as I order a coffee every two hours or so and pretend to work remote on my laptop. Ditched the binoculars, made me look too much like a perv.>Day 6: Managed to spot a game of K47, but still no Indians, one of the guys played british, have to cross-examine the pics I took and the ones with PAHJEETplayer showed.>Day 9: Got into a fight. Some idiot thought I was stalking his lady friend in the pastryshop or something. Beat him up in the end, but I guess I can't go there anymore.>Day 11: I SAW HIM! THE PAHEETPLAYER, BLOODY BASTARD! HE TOOK OFF AFTER I RIGHTFULLY POINTED OUT WHO HE WAS BUT I WON! I SAW HIM!
>pajeet anon has a crazy stalker>all I get is some guy wanting to finger bang chubby goth girls in my GYSome guys get all the luck.
>>96819800The funniest part is he could start showing up and get /awg/ games in. We have K47, Frostgrave, OPR, and people always looking to try new games. Instead he's so scared of toy soldier sikhs that he cant.
>>96817429For 28mm heroic "scale" there is the tamiya 1/48 bike with sidecart.
>>96819800Hey, it's a compliment, your terrain really sets the mood>>96820132I like seeing your army, sorry you have a nutty stalker.
>>96820173He's brought it to /btg/ too >>96819736Anyway. K47 thought: The game has serious potential but thry desperately need to nerf guts and fix the inter-faction balance
Does anybody still play Guild Ball? Was thinking about this game recently, I know it's a dead game in that no more content is coming out for it, but it does look like it's still getting some balance patches even this year, and the models are still for sale on the website in a 3d print on demand service. I always did love the game, it just wasn't a very good product, they couldn't really make money off of it or make it grow the way they wanted.Does anybody still play this anywhere, or is it truly actually completely dead?
>>96815252>8 monopose models from a kitbash centred game and community lmao the shark has been jumped
>>96813280Did the fat bitch died
>>96814477
>>96820360They already showed different build options
>>96820360And not when people were spending hundreds on monopose STLs?
>>96820938>>96820360>>96815252For me, Trench Crusade is quite a fascinating one.It's incredibly popular. But it's not really /awg/ types like you and me.It's nu40k doomscrollers who don't even know what 28mag is.I wonder how Tuomas feels about it all, deep down.
>>96821205Not Tuomas, but I like a lot of the modular STLs the game inspired. These fatties were neat, a few build options and restraint on the details.
>>96821205>I wonder how Tuomas feels about it all, deep down.You are ascribing way too much to the "kind" of person who plays a certain game. I'm pretty sure Tuomas is very excited by the success they've had and suffering many late nights working.Fwiw weird war leaves me pretty cold, and despite giving the lore a good listen it didn't do much for me but if you're putting energy into identifying and complaining about "hipster wargamers," it's not going into your own hobby. There is morr than a sliver of irony in the need to be a human sorting algo, but never sorting through your pile. TC is the definition of a very successful new game, which is probably why they are charging a lot of money for eight dudes. If they have more kits people will probably lap it up. I have less than zero interest in it but good for them
>>96821205This is true. The only person who has tried to talk to me about Trench Crusade is my 40kuck WAACfag brother. He has never played a single game that isn't 40k. He was very excited about Trench Crusade and texted me about it. When I mentioned it was made by the same guy as Mordheim he had no idea what Mordheim even was.
>>96821709Agreed. Its setting and lore does not really interest me, but at the same time, its interesting to see how it evolves from just a couple of neat artworks.They basically released it just a the right time too.
>>96821925So, have you played TC with him or not?
>>96821961Definitely not. I enjoy narrative games, scenarios, campaigns, etc. and his 40k mentality makes him incapable of playing those without metagaming, so I avoid playing with him usually. Once a year we have a family 40k tournament where we play a four way free for all (using 7e) and we all usually gang up on him so he doesn't get to take home the 40k plaque for the year.
>>96821997Why are they like this?
>>96822010Popular games typically attract the worst kinds of players and in larger amounts. It's just like how in mtg you are more likely to encounter a sweaty try hard who lies about his deck then someone who wants to just play and have fun with others in a competitive game.
>>96822035I've heard MTG players are even worse than the 40k crowd.
>>96822164They're pretty equivalent. That rumor is usually spread by Warhammies trying to save face
>>96822220I think it's just that MTG as a game allows more whales pack into smaller space, which makes body odor problems so much worse. Tabletop wargaming forces you to get up and move around a little, which means ever stinkbomb has a little more area to disperse.
>>96804587That weapon should be bigger.
>>96822553Its irl weapon, its proportions are limited by reality and common sense.But yeah they could put something more fun on them like smaller cannons.
>>96822382If you wanna talk about body odor problems, look into YGO. People were literally trying to weaponize body odor to get an advantage in tournaments. Shit got so bad official tournament rules had to be amended to address the issue.
>>96821997What narrative campaigns do you play with them?
Does this have any uses? Maybe potential?
>>96823175That's dopeI buy too many toys for vehicles/scenery, the line starts blurring.
>anno domini 2025>still no set of shirtless, muscled, plastic barbarians from Frezettas paintings
>>96823175yeah
Is there anything mantic can’t do?>very cheap, but mediocre quality models >raise your prices so you’re barely cheaper than GW>model quality stays the same, and ancient sculpts like Basileans and elves still exist>make all of your metal/resins STLs only, locking out options for factions if you don’t own a printer>make your STL buying process utterly cancerous by locking minis in unrelated packs>make your ‘free rules’ almost unplayable by locking core concepts in the paid version>obsessed with ‘Frontier’ funding which just encourages whales>abandon games and churn out even more (most of Armada has been out of stock on their site for ages)
>>96823604I am still mad at Mantic for gutting my Abyssal Dwarf selection and making the secondhand market cancerous. Cunts.
>>96823880Were you the guy who claims his blacksoul sprues didn't have the mold flaws?
>>96823880I’m dead certain they are going to cut the units they don’t sell directly out of the rulebook
>>96823909No, but I actually know that Anon in person. Same LGS.>>96823978I hope the company crashes and burns in that case. At the very least it might make them liquidate their stock at a reasonable price.
>>96807388I unironically and respectfully tip my hat to you, Anon. Keep up the good work.
>>96820360Anon, be reasonable. Tabletop games are niche in the grand scheme of things. A lot of the market share is already taken by GW. Few people left to play AWG. If the game offers ready-made models that you just need to paint, it lowers the barrier of entry.Surely, more people to play with is a good thing? I personally love to kitbash, made my own Mordheim crew this way. So what, nobody else in my mid-sized city can be bothered to do so. The game's dead for me. I'd much rather play againts identical monopose teams than not play at all...
>>96819313How were you able to actually find the location? I want that skill
>>96809730How easy or hard would be salvage the charts and stuff and inject them to more competitive wargame to form narrative campaigns?
>>96825248>googled the name on the license plate of the car outside the window>checked on google for all LGS in that area >checked the storefronts on Google Street one by one until I found the one with that window framework and square white pillars in the front
>>96819405According to my people it will steal ypur soul.
>>96809730>>96825422...I wonder if I'm having a stroke or just very tired, my writing is barely comprehensible.
>>96821205TC is just grimslop for people that cry about GW wokeness and call models slathered in nuln oil "grimdark".It sells the aesthetics of stuff like 28mag in a much simpler package where the player doesn't need to be inconvenienced by kitbashing, sculpting and the likes, it's all ready to be drowned in contrast paint. Babby's first alt wargame for 40kids.I feel like Franchina saw the chance to capitalise on his artworks, which were just part of his portfolio, and pulled Tuomas just for his cred as a rules writer. The game is a weird mismatch; on one hand, massed trench warfare in art and setting, whilst on the other, Mordheim-like rules on a very small scale, it's a strange choice.I don't dislike either of the creatives, but I feel they just don't work well enough together.>pic relatedGod, that grassy base is sexy>>96821709>hipster wargamersFunnily enough, I'd say it tries to repackage the "hipster wargamer" vibe for mass appeal. Not a complaint either, just an admitedly idiotic observation.>>96825159>I'd much rather play againts identical monopose teams than not play at all.A sad truth. At the end of the day, I can't bitch too loud about TC if it makes people try games outside of the GW hegemony.
Played a game of Malediction over the weekend, actually had a pretty good time. Honestly not a fan of it being so focused around 3D printing the models but the starter boxes come with standees and templates for scenery which I appreciate. Gets the game on the table while I sort out finding out how to get the actual models, since I don't 3D print and don't have the space or interest to start.The card game half of it works pretty well when I thought it might be a bit cumbersome. My only real complaint after literally one game is that it feels like it might be a too fast. Game is to 25 points and a the objectives ("Relics") are worth 10 (4 of them on the board) and models dying rewards the opponent their cost in points
DRAGON RAMPANT 2 has been out for a few days now and I haven't seen a single mention of it. How is it? Is the PDF floating around yet??
>>96821205So for real, what is that basing material? Some kind of fine lichen? Some kind of ground up sponge? Never seen it before. On a lipped base it's pretty ridiculously perfect.
>>96818390>Slaaneshi RapenautJokes on you, I'm actually midway through making a Slaaneshi Rapenaught. Lore wise a Deanonette accidentally git stuck in the machine and the warband was never able to extract her. So they just left her in the machine as it slowly turned into a rapey deamon engine.
>>96819130Any fantasy. Could do for oathmark, Mordhiem, or any skirmish or 28mm mass battle game with ghouls or feral cave hominids.
>>96814219There is evidence of women buried with warrior grave goods, so some women LARPed at the very least. A whole female warband is a bit out there though.
>>96823513The grenadier barbarian fantasy warriors springs to mind.https://www.battlezone-miniatures.co.uk/shop/category/17https://forlornhopegames.co.uk/category/fantasy-warriors/barbarians?page=2
>>96817383Why the fuck would you use round bases for if facing and arcs matter?
>>96827214Man do I love pavises.
>>96815252>8 minis>Monopose>35 GBP (make your conversions)And the fresh and hip new kid the block ready to take on the GW giant shoots itself in the foot. Weird, I'm getting Déjà Vu, almost like if this had already happened in the past a few times.
>>96823604Idk this looks pretty cool.I like that they try to do their own thing. I cannot see myself getting into 4th KOW though because of price and a desire to see elves, dwarves, undesd and orcs get a little bit of a refresh. It is happening afaik but later in this edition. Discussions about elves are already taking place, again they want to take them away from just being warhammer proxies and have them with different mounts and equipment and lore and styling. The model quality has improved a lot, just not enough to judtify near gw prices
With Dragon Rampant 2 can Lion Rampant 2 armies work without issue? I'd like to have my historical figures go up against monsters and undead, without giving the historical army magic.
>>96827269It's probably some kind of flocking/ground foam meant for model railroads. They use a fine to coarsely ground sponge material mixed with various green paints. My fist minis were based with some of that dumped onto wet graveyard earth paint, good times.
>>96828080Idk because no one will share the PDF for me to read it
>>96828080I don't see an issue with that. You can run the basic profiles without magical upgrades just fine. They're the same across games.
>>96828068Epic Warpath is at least pretty affordable. The hard plastic core boxes are full armies, and they sell STLs of everything too.
>>96827579Round bases offer you precise control over facing and arcs, with polygons you're stuck with their vertices and faces.For 90 degrees it's completely pointless, though.
>>96828445Want to see a magic trick that will blow your mind?
Guess this is a sign to get the beastmen brayherds battalion unless awg can provided a better box.
>>96828507Apparently you're stupid, so I'll spell it out for you: A circle can be easily divided into arcs of any arbitrary size; a polygon is already naturally divided by its faces and vertices. This means that if you're making a system, round bases offer you full freedom to define arcs however you please, without needing to worry about whether the end result maps neatly onto a polygon.
>>96827457Get yo goofy ass back to /HWG/, this is /AWG/, where historical accuracy is merely a suggestion.
>>96827908It's wild than now MIerce seems to have apropiate prices, compared to the slop other makers do, it used to be the worst.
>>96828262So would I have to look for equivalents units in DR for my LR army like whatever an elite cavalry is in DR, or can I just have a LR army that's x number of LR points go up against a DR army that's an equal number of DR points?
For all this talk about Trench Crusade, never forget that Mormon cultists hired Napoleon Dynamite to make a whole infomercial film for their 1490 DOOM kickstarter
>>96827457Have you lived among women? You watch too much jewish television.
>>96828962The difference between unit profiles in the systems is that in dragon rampant you've a bigger selection of upgrades to buy and profiles for lesser and greater warbeasts.
>>96828985Damn shame, I thought this was a John Blanche docu, but reading a couple of reviews, it's really just an extended 1490 Doom ad.>>96827908Check out the Wargames Atlantic Satyrs, 24 of them for 40 bucks is nearly half the GW price.The sculpts are also really nice, they seem more savage than the GW ones.
Any hard plastic 28mm historical or historical passing fantasy minatures have lamellar armor and lamellar helmets? I saw the Wargame Atlantic Longbards but they are 3D resin prints and there's a few metal minatures, but I'm looking for plastic.
>>96829102Fireforge Scandinavian and russian infantry have some figures wearing lamellar. The sculpts aren't the crispest, but they are quite cheap.
>>96829085Watch Filmdeg on Youtube, he met John Blanche by chance for a game of Mordheim, and now he has interviews with various GW alumni and Nottingham Lead Belt types.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXZP-6-A4Nw
>>96829180As much as I love all this stuff I sometimes feel like the nostalgia and being wedded to GW especially doesn't make much room for something new to happen. Tropes are handy for games and settings, like space knights but I sometimes wonder what someone might come up with with minimal exposure to either warhammer or nostalgia. I kind of understand why they tried to blow up the whfb setting a bit better now even though at the time I couldn't fathom it.
>>96828689I would get the Frostgrave Demons. About half the models are goatmen with beastmen legs, the other half horned demons with tails. Thinking about picking it up myself
>>96828409If they do another starter set I like the lòok of, I'll get it. Ihave the Undead and Ogres one. One with new elves vs ratmen or dwarves vs orcs would be nice
>>96827579Many games do. I prefer round bases since it's easier to set them up in my display cases.
>>96829085>SatyrsActually, check out the Bulldogs for a much close comparison. Way to go, TC, you out-jewed GW.
>>96829628What do WGA Bulldogs have to do with GW or Trench Crusade for that matter?
>>96828689If you wait for a bit longer, you can buy the WGA Damned Beastmen.
>>96829748Quantity, price and type of model.
>>96829779Might as well compare them with any Victrix bag then. What about quality and build options?
>>96829890~Shuut uuuuuup!
>>96828985>>96829085I thought 1490 doom seemed cool as hell, but they went with some stupid punk/BioShock aesthetic instead of actually 1490 tech, what a bummer. Also I don't think a single person in existence actually played the game
>>96829750>shitty low effort Warhammer rip off Pass
>>96829750>Goats with gasmasksIt's just like my impaled nazarene songs!
>>96829750>Cat pig and goat headsMassively better than GW already.
>>96828808Not him, but there's nothing stopping you from drawing smaller arcs on if you're unhappy with 90 or 60 or 45 degrees. But other bases have the advantage of having them built in. >>96829264I know many games do. However, maybe games are gay and retarded.
>>96829628>>96829750>financially supporting Tony Reidy
>he's still mad people don't make their choices in line with his opinions
>>96818606>didn't realise it was a naked woman at his feet and not a pile of rocksMany such cases!
>>96830500Tony/Hudson sucks but some of the WGA kits are really nice. Trick is to buy them under MSRP and not directly from WGA.
>>96830690Don't engage him. He's just gonna sperg out again.
>>96830690>really nice Such as? The only one that has tempted me are the harvesters, but all the reviews on their own site all day they are absolutely horrible to assemble. I was tempted to get into 10mm fantasy but the quality control on all of the kits released thus far has been abysmal
My four year old son is interested in painting miniatures, can anyone recommend me some cheap stocky monopose monsters?
>>96830740The Quar are all great, loads of options, clean casts, easy to assemble and all totally interchangeable
>>96830748EM4 Orcs
>>96830748I have my 3 year old paint toy army men and he loves it. I get the medieval knight version for a few dollars. He will sit and paint for an hour. I let him paint a lot of the reaper bones kickstart monsters that I'm never gonna use as well. >>96830761Well to be fair it would be very hard to fuck up Quar because they are smooth cartoonish characters with silly proportions and you have no basis to compare them to to judge their quality and accuracy.
>>96830783>$23 Da fuck? I remember they were $6 for 50 like 5 or 6 years ago
>>96830748Buy him GI Joes.Your son will choke on miniatures, and drink the paint.
>>96830740I like the Grognards and I was eyeing the Bulldogs and French Infantry boxes. Quar seem decent too.
>>96830785>Well to be fair it would be very hard to fuck up Quar because they are smooth cartoonish characters with silly proportions and you have no basis to compare them to to judge their quality and accuracy.Doesn't matter, they are nice.
>>96830806You either have no kids or you lobotomized your kid with screentime. What a retarded statement
these are cool as hell, Christ is King baby
>>96830806No the older one seems to be lawful… his younger brother on the other hand I wouldn’t let near a pencil let alone paint
>>96831081Remember when some guy on the Infinity forums found out that his toddler of a son had ransacked his collection when he was away, to "do minis like daddy".
