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>>96804748https://imgchest.com/p/qe4gmez3j4jEndless Riches https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96798161/#96799138Real Estate https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96765686/#96771224Bloodline Clones https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96771516/#96771928Arthur Pendragon https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96771516/#96772383Blessed Sage of Heaven and Earth https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96771516/#96772819Asi-Māra, Demonic Sword of the Crimson Sea https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96771516/#96772890Devourer of Minds https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96771516/#96772939Pill Popping Immortal Daoist https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96771516/#96773130Hidden Blood Demon https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96787971/#96790138Sword Shadow https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96771516/#96774392The Radiant https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96771516/#96775064Bibliophile https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96776475/#96780558The Butcher https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96787971/#96789913The Primordial Void https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96776475/#96779706Thousand Faces https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96791933/#96793467The Dryad https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96791933/#96793477True Knight https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96780911/#96781427Ultimate Lifeform https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96780911/#96782605Dao Master https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96780911/#96783138Heaven Sundering Fist https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96780911/#96785686Ice Nerd https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96780911/#96785747Lilu https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96787971/#96789459Immaterial Maester https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96791933/#96792605The Godfather Golem https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96791933/#96792542Herald of Progress https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96787971/#96790948Entropy Snake https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96787971/#96791184
unbound causality is the best GI
Cyoa for this feel?https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_yXCKbW3KyE&pp=ygUZYXF1YSBjcnlpbmcgYWJvdXQgd2luZG93cw%3D%3D
>>96804760Scroll Lich https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96787971/#96791572Primordial Jew https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96787971/#96792028Aventurine https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96791933/#96793188Machine God https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96791933/#96793440Shadow Crafter https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96791933/#96794677Yin Yang Scion https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96791933/#96797399Artist https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96798161/#96800218https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96798161/#96802638
>>96804768damn bro, why didn't you just turn off updates
>redditclysmic redditation...
>>96804787I think it's calling for you, anon. It's leaking into your every word. It really is time to go back.
>>96804768Dumb Aqua poster
>>96804760Perfect guardian is still the be GI and its not even close
>>96804813the breast expansion grand inheritance?
Post Danmachi right nowPost Mushoku Tensei right nowPost Fairy Tail right now Post Harbinger right nowPost Mythic Lands right now Post Harry Potter right now
>>96804820only two of those are goodyour opinion on which those two are is wrong
>>96804834NTA but I think Mythic Lands is good. Is that one of the two you've mentioned?
>>96804760So we can all agree crafting is the best strategy?
>>96804839yes
>>96804748I think OP bailed on us. Can someone post the rest? I would do it myself but I am (shamefully) phoneposting.
>>96804849it's a good strategy and auxiliary master is probably the low-key second best GI, but it's still only a side thing and focusing on combat or raw cultivation, two things that are more important than crafting, is still better
>>96804849Get the twink + LL + Protagonist Aura and he can do everything you could possibly need on that point. While you have enough options for combat.
>>96804865It's not like an RPG where crafting is a separate system. Crafting directly raises your cultivation and combat level.
>>96804770>>96804856He was probably only posting files 'cause the build list exceeded the character limit, but sure.
>>96804871Why would I take a blessing that buffs my enemies? I am not a jobber.
>>96804874no, you can get shit from other sources here as well, especially now that you have the market, so what i'm saying is that picking GIs like void, dharma, and primordial is strictly speaking better
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>>96804865AT synergizes really well with LL but having two non-combat GIs seems like a mistake. Unless you also pick Guardian and have it fight for you, while you jack off inside your pocket dimension.
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>>96804885It's not lol. Market access makes crafting 10x stronger. You don't seem to understand that you can just craft level up pills.>dharma weaponYou can literally make something as good as that (plus other shit) if you take auxiliary master
>>96804895it's still a viable strategy if you take three methods based on crafting>>96804898yeah, maybe once you're stage 17 a million years from now, but by that time the dharma weapon dude has killed god and has an even better sword
>>96804897
>>96804839Mythic Lands is ass. The forced balance is awful. The race selection is awful.
>>96804916>forced balancelmao
>>96804908
>>96804921
Anyone explain the absolute jewery of crafters in Xianxia settings yet? You must provide the materials and pay for the costs of production x2-5 times in case the first few tries fail. It is expected that the crafter will pocket all this if he succeeds on the first try.
>>96804787Don't ever use my ellipses again
>>96804920There was a whole side section dedicated to why martials should be able to survive and outflex magics. Lmao. The world may as well have been created by a martially biased creator-god (a martially biased turd nugget beyond the fourth wall).
>>96804931
>>96804884That's exactly what a jobber would say. A real protagonistCHAD relishes the opportunity to fight his rivals. Besides rivalry is not such a negative relationship. For example: you may have the swordswoman as your rival and that should work for the benefit of both of you. Rival is completely different from enemy, after all.
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>>96804787>chudtropist
>>96804879Appreciate it, anon.
>>96804895Your guardian cannot be far apart from you so you cannot have it act as a proxy.
>>96804936buddy, balance of choices is a good thing, otherwise everyone would pick the same thing or suck
>>96804959Readlet
>>96804936>My funny words and gestures aren't an autowin against everything and an easy way to godhood, the cyoa sucks!!!!So this is the balance that casterfags want.
>>96804895That is why you also take void body then you just nerf your enemies to your weaker level and use your items crafted at a higher stage than yourself and your stronger allies to beat them
>>96804932don't like it?do it yourself
Speaking of the fourth wall… When did you realize that all fiction has a “our existence was conceived in the head of some pathetically weak human from an exterior existence” origin point regardless of how powerful or vast the fiction is?To the rational mind, I reallydon’t think it’s possible to pretend the fourth wall doesn’t exist. Even in Marvel and DC the super secret lore is that “we’re all just cartoon drawings”. Dungeons & Dragons toys with this as well (but it also occasionally pretends irl earth is on the same existential layer, which is nonsense) in the form of wizards who reach supreme insight and recognize themselves as mere pieces on a gameboard, or letters in a page, or figments in a cosmic brain’s imagination.
>>96804895You can use crafted items in combat you know.
>>96804980>Their only real flaw is their inability to leave your side and an inmate overzealous protectivenessSeriously anon.
>>96804996All big things have small beginnings. The fantasy dimension probably began as a story the way your life began as a twinkle in your father’s eye.
>>96804959You can, actually. Just not initially. It is stated to be a psychological flaw, not a hard limitation. So it stands to reason that you can train it act as your proxy.
>>96804768>working on updates>this will take a whileUltimate God>v1 >v2 >v3 >v4 >v5 (been a wip for over a year now)
>>96805004Read the rest, anon!!! I know (You) can do it!!!
>>96804996being incapable of suspending disbelief isn't a superpower anon, it's more like a mental deficiency
I am not a twinkle.
>>96804996Don't think you would call your creator God a weak pathetic human it's some scary eldritch being that brought you into existence just out of its dreams and it could unmake you with but a thought
>>96804820Of these, the good ones were mushoku tensei and harry potterI don't like the harry potter franchise but the cyoa was good
>>96805030Nah it’s called obsessively wanting to rip down further and further curtains. It’s all a big stage. Eventually you will find the fuzz to the Matrix. Who makes the fuzz?
>>96805044He’s saying that the eldritch creator deity was created/conceived by some sexless nerd “from beyond”. Because it was.
>>96805002True, but it will still fall short to a full combat build. Some autist with Dharma Weapon, Primordial Essence and Void Body along with 2 combat based methods will kick your shit in.In fact, Void Body severely counters crafterfags.
>>96805065retard kun...
void body is the only thing that can create 2 stages of difference in a battle on its own, suck it everyone else
>>96805061I am saying that sexless nerd is the eldritch being everything that exists, exists from that nerds mind every action, every though is but a part of the nerds dream if he wishes the world could be erased or rebuilt from the ground up
You are responding to the kike
>>96805083>t. gets MOGGED by a VoidBodyCHAD
>>96805086Primordial Essence explicitly gives you power beyond your stage letting you overcome your cultivation being slower. And others obviously allow you to overcome higher stages like Dharma Weapon and Guardian.
>>96805093it can't, he already posted the world on 4chan so he can't delete it anymore
>>96805093>I am saying that sexless nerd is the eldritch being In the same way Azathoth is an unconscious “idiot god” sure okay. It isn’t actually awesome being Mana-Yood-Sushai.
>>96805107pe gives you 1 stage of advantagevb gives your enemies 1 stage of disadvantage and funnels it to your allies to give them 1 stage of advantage, thus creating 2 stages of differenceit's the strongest combat gi and it achieves that strength by acting like a support bitch bard
>>96805108But that is but the snapshot frozen in time it cannot move forward without the dreamer
>>96805017They would make for a poor agent if they are constantly worried about returning to your side as soon as possible. You should just relegate them for short and precise missions and not a full replacement for you being there.
>>96805065Well sure, but they've invested basically entirely into combat. Meanwhile you can still fight well enough but can also do other things.
>dharma weaponJobber trap option. You can make a dharma weapon AND dharma armor by being a craftchad.
>>96805136I went all in on crafting but it's pretty obvious you're not reaching that level until way, way, WAY later.
Where does this conception that crafting is separate from combat come? Western fantasy?
>>96805117The most op part of void body is that it drops the stage of a cultivator that is of a higher stage to your level so they can be multiple stages above and get a really severe debuff
>>96805117>>96805107PE gives an entirely new set of powers that can grow to rival the strongest beings in the verse, no? It's probably one of the best GIs for flavor if you want specific powers that are not included on your methods. It also boots your body significantly even in the basest stages, which might grow even more on higher stages. It's like getting a massive physical boost and a innate power that outstrips even methods.
>>96805147You'll be reaching that stage about 10x faster than the average retard that picks Dharma weapon. Crafting = money. Money = cultivation. And while doing it you'll have a full loadout of all the relics you could ever want, rather than just 1 good sword.
>>96805155no, it only drops them by 1 stage, and it's still twice as strong as any other combat gi with that restriction>>96805157yes, pe gives you powers and it's awesome for flavor, but those powers are part of the package with the stage of advantage is part of that whole packagepe+vb is a good combo btw, would recommend, you're awesome with pe and you bring your allies up to your level
>>96805124They don't need to care about my safety if I'm hidden in a pocket dimension literally no one else can reach. Psychological limitations can be superseded and trained out if necessary, they might just get used to being away from you acting on your behalf. Specially if you argue the fact that you running around the world with them is actually more dangerous for you both.
>>96805168The cyoa straight up tells you none of the GI's are overwhelmingly superior to the rest.
I actually like Danmachi it’s just the cyoa works better as a single player cyoa which is why I stopped talking about it.
>>96805168anon, NOBODY has money problems in the long term, you literally just take the tree and the market and you're set for life
>>96805136Bro, your Yesod + Protagonist Aura?
>>96805181that's not the same thing as saying no build is better than any other build, combos of choices and specializations matter
>>96805186>your YesodNo no, you can have him. I wouldn't dare to take him when you're clearly so fond of him.
>>96805130They can compensate for that in their own way as well. In the end it really falls down to preferences.
>>96805183The tree has its limitations. Crafting does not. You can sell your crafts from day 1 right up to the highest tiers of power. And it feeds into itself. >>96805186Yesod ain't all that.
>>96805182I could never get into the setting. I liked the concept but the characters are all big time trash. It’s like a teeny soap opera.
>>96805173Where does it say it only drops them by one stage? As I only see "those above your stage can resist to some extent but even they will find themselves being dragged to your level" seems pretty clearly that it effects those above your stage
>>96805205it doesn't have many limitations as a money maker at all
>>96805214It's slow and can only grow raw materials. Only one thing can be copied at a time. It's far worse than plan merchant's guile as a money maker.
>>96805193Okay, but it is in fact the same thing as saying that Dharma Weapon axiomatically is not a trap choice.
>>96805210everything works like that in the cyoa, the author also said so, and everything works like that in xianxia in generalrespect stages, 1 stage of advantage is 10 times weaker than 2 stages of advantage and 100 times weaker than 3 stages of advantage (might not be the exact number but you get the point)void body can't bring some stage 10 idiot to stage 1, it isn't a billion times stronger than other gis just because you're reading the text wrong
>>96805136Matterjeet putting in some serious overtime lately.
>>96805210Rake specified that those above have it lowered by approximately one stage to stop people thinking that they easily would depower someone five stages above them.
>It’s like a teeny soap opera.All anime is like this. There isn’t a single mature anime setting out there. It’s all teen shit.
>>96805221you're not really taking seriously how incredibly expensive raw materials can be in xianxia, this isn't a modern setting where 99% of the value is in the technological process
Are crafterfags really pretending they can defeat combatfags in a straight up fight? Lol
>>96805245they kind of can with the right build, they just need to take the methods where their crafts become part of their own bodiesstill not exactly as strong, but they are serious threats
>>96805245How do you survive a nuke before the later stages?
>>96805086Lotus bomb by itself would let you kill an entire sect several stages above you and yet no one took it.
>>96805243What do you think is going to be more profitable?Selling the slow trickle of raw materials, or refining them into a master tier artifacts, then selling them?Which of these two paths will allow you to buy more expensive materials to copy?Which of these two paths will have faster growth?Which of these two paths will allow you to rapidly increase your cultivation?
>>96805245Depends. Crafting implies preparation while combat can be on a whim. With prep you should have the upper hand.
crafting is combat you fucking retardsyou can craft pills that instantly raise your cultivationyou can craft arrays that multiply your cultivation speedyou can craft artifacts that are directly useful in combat, like a Dharma weaponthis isn't fucking D&D
>>96805257I took it along with the thingy that revives you, just in case I really needed to nuke someone. But I have a Living Forge build and I haven't posted it yet.
>>96805261it's not a big difference, most of the value is in the material, and both of them will more than cover their optimal cultivation speed expenses with their money making
>>96805257that's cheating
>>96805275Yes but if you’re caught with your pants down while you’re building your macguffin you’re still going to have a bad time, mmmkay.
>>96805239It really is matterheroine...>>96805261Probably the former in all cases 'cause any bulk customer has specific artifacts in mind and if you fuck up the raw materials for your jobber artifacts that's just more work for them. The latter could work out if you take commissions, but that's basically asking to be enslaved.
>>96805257Single use items tend not to be that popular.
>>96805229Rake should really write it better then that, he should have written by one stage instead of to your level as it's way too vague
>>96805284it's a massive difference>most of the value is in the materiallol
>>96805275This general is retarded anon. These idiots can’t into preparation logic. They just want to do shit at the drop of a hat. They hate ritual, process, etc.
>>96805297it's not a massive difference, you typically see 50-90% of the value of a craft be the thousand year blood phoenix feather some idiot needed to go fetch, not the crafting at the end
>>96805291If you have taken lost legacy you have a safe pocket dimension to do your mcguffin crafting
>>96805292>It really is matterheroine...The fuck? You don’t have to be a genius to know that anime is kiddo cringe.
Just use your Guardian and Lotus Bomb them. With the right methods and GIs you might even be able to replicate the bomb, specially if you take Place of Power.
>>96805280>>96805326>readletsyou automatically survive the lotus bomb
>>96805326it's probably not replicable unless you use the essence furnace on it first, rake needs to fix this oops
a crafter created the spliced treeand the essence furnaceand the pocket dimensionand the totem of rebirthand the lotus bomband the slaver's toolsand the salubrious tonicand the lucky diceand the celestial orreryand the condensation arrayand even the lost legacy palace and dharma weaponbtw
>>96805331It's so strong, I projected a drawback on it to make it more palatable to my brain. Forgive me for remembering it wrong, scholar-sama.
>>96805343they didn't craft the tree, and everything else needs unique resources to craft, you can't just make it out of glowing rocks
>>96805297>>96805309Depends on the story. Sometimes to make one item you need five or six materials, and a skilled crafter will succeed in making it a third of the time. Sometimes you only need one material that is so obscenely rare that somehow only one has ever existed in the entire world yet everyone knows about it. Sometimes both things are true, and either that unique material will be pointlessly destroyed for a chance at the item, or using such an item negates the risk normally associated with crafting.
>>96805369yeeah, but the point is that the tree isn't going to destroy it when copying it, so you can get multiple of the super rare material and outproduce the GDP of eurasia either way
I bet you could use lotus bomb as a technique to spontaneously explode the RE of others
>>96805380>anon forces someone else to use the lotus bomb>that guy lives, but anon next to him diesthe most brilliant plan i've seen in all of cyoag
>>96805333Having the raw materials doesn't mean you can build it since it's basically a trapped storm inside.Even with all the crafting tools you would still need to be tens of stages above earth level to even think of forging one.
>>96805331I know you survive it, my point is that you don't even need to be anywhere near harm's way.>>96805333I think that with the right combination of methods, GIs and Blessings you might be able to replicate it even without melting it down. Reverse engineering this kind of shit should be well within the purview of a crafting based cultivator.
>>96805392not necessarily, all it does is use your energy, not its own, so it's probably a unique resource situation, not a high stage resource and recipe situationits actual effects also aren't off the stage chart, it's like stage 8 in power maybe?
>>96805393maybe you could make it on your own, but you'd really need to specialize in it to do that and still take a lot longer, and it feels like a pointless endeavor when you need the bomb to study it or melt it down either way
A Living Forge could theoretically make the Lotus Bomb one of his techniques, no?
>>96804760>Perfect Guardian, Void Body + HCF/Dick DevourerThere is literally nothing that beats this combination. If you are picking anything else you are going to end up as a jobber and ngmi.
>>96805380Probably by the time you can pull that off, it's a normal attack for your stage or just one level above your own.>>96805386If done with a Tulpa, or some other clone, I can see some use cases there. Like if your clone is being attacked by a group that it can't beat, the technique could be used to ensure that only one of your attackers survives.
>>96805425primordial essence + void body + lost legacy for me
>>96805425>perfect guardianjobber choicevoid body + HCF + dick devourer is the pure powerGOD build
>>96805470you're holding yourself back with hcf desu
>>96805470>Dont have perfect servant that scales off of you to transfer your void body buff to
>>96805488>not having Iska possess you and buffing her which consequently buffs you tooNgmi
Why not just take a seed from the tree and make more copies of it?
>>96805488heavenly conqueror foundation allows you to progress much more quickly, and it allows the use of a third methodit's far superior to some jobber stand
>>96805478I think anons overestimate how good a third method is. HCF was too good on the first version but I think it has been nerfed into the ground.
>>96805525nah it's still good, it's just not the optimal choice for the combat combat combat dumbass build
>>96805500>Has to carry weak jobbers from companion section that will lag several stages behind you unless you waste large amount of resources on them you couldve used on yourself.
>>96805516the tree is an incel, sorry
what would happen if you dick devoured your dharma weapon
>>96805522Thats why I take HCF, Guardian and void body
>>96805536it doesn't really work that way in stories, you aren't going to benefit from stage 2 resources when you're stage 3 yourself already, you may as well give them to your companions because they aren't going to fetch stage 3 prices in the market either
>>96805544That's just sepukku.
>>96805470those were my GI's the first time around, funny
>>96804760I'm going to make a build for this, but I'm not going to post it/work hard to expand it beyond a mere shopping list.
>>96805525Oversoul is better now, a third technique really doesn't matter unless you just really want it.
oversoul + HCF + dick devourer
>>96805573it matters a lot in some combos
>>96805549I kinda think lost legacy is really powerful at the start in this way as it gives you items and equipment above you by several stages, you could be a stage 1 using stage 5 equipment
>>96805579>Unbound causality, Mentor ring, Karmic Alignmentname 1 combo that beats this
>>96805536Bro? You do have Protagonist Aura, right?
>>96805591Literally anything else
>>96805590i think its primary utility is the pocket world by FARfocusing on the loot is a meme, that thing is so strong it's not even funny, you get a perfect extradimensional fortress that you can just teleport into at will and nobody can follow you in, and as if that wasn't enough you get to have time pass ten times faster while inside
>>96805593No I didnt pick the jobber option that buffs my enemies.
>>96805525It's good, but the value just isn't there. I'd say the average value of a GI is something like 1.6 to 1.8 methods, as where HCF is more like 1.3 because it doesn't do much besides giving you a method. Really what it needs is a bit more to it. Like making you better at combining your methods to produce a complementary result.
>>96805591What are the rules of the engagement? As if they all start from stage 1 then lost legacy beats everyone as they just speed cultivate multiple stages trough the power of money and can then wreck the other builds
>>96805590Or you could just jack off inside your own dimension until you reach stage 5. If you have combat GIs as the other choices you can fight almost anyone on the planet the second you step outside the bunker.
>>96805607Of course the pocket dimension is the greatest prize, but the loot just gives you a massive headstart not to mention the free blessings.
>>96805608Rivals are not the same as enemies, retard-kun
>>96804748I'm sure rakes explainee it multiple times, but what are/can be a tulpa?
>>96805610It makes you cultivate faster so you will reach higher stages faster. It also helps with bottlenecks and tribulations.
>>96805636yeah, not picking lost legacy is pretty much always a mistake no matter what you're doing
Unbound causality + social buffs is unbeatable
>>96805708you don't need to savescum social situations if you have social buffs you autist
>>96805716>he thinks that's what the time travel ability is forngmi
>>96805719i know that's exactly what you want to use it for
>>96805727>i [HEADCANON]kwab
>>96804748Personally I like the plan of just rulling a backwater universe as a immortal god king at some point a cultivator just grows too fat on RE to be able to enter a lower realm so just reach this peak and you will essentially be the strongest in your universe
>>96805708Untill the old monster remembers your blunder from the previous timeline
>>96805748your universe isn't locked down, if you want to do that shit you're better off trying to breed a cult society in your lost legacy world
>>96805643I might just not value those aspects enough, but in comparison to Karmic Alignment, which even having been buffed still comes off a bit lacking, it seems a bit weak. Karmic Alignment is effectively a method unto itself, that also boosts your other methods. Or there is Primordial Essence, which again is basically a method of it's own, but it makes you able to fight at a level above your own stage, but also has a bit of a nerf to cultivation speed.
>>96805761>"he farted while walking past me in my dream">"HE IS COURTING DEATH"
>>96805782>be a moralfag in life 1>ingratiate yourself with all the old monsterrs>rewind>now the old monsters have a vaguely good feeling about you by default>exploit them mercilessly and take their shit
>>96805800i don't know about that one, they'd probably be very suspicious of impulses like that, especially if you're ingratiating yourself, this is actually really dangerous
>>96805778Karmic alignment is too prohibitively stupid, its very specific in what it does while not giving benefits comparable to needing to effecfively give up your autonomy and good/evilmax. Primordial bloodline is the opposite, it's extremely vague in what it does aside from making your body exceptionally stronger while slowing down your cultivation speed, its one of the only inheritances that actively has a downside rather than coincidentally having one
>>96805800Being a moralfag is like the least ingratiating thing you can do in a xianxia setting.
>>96805772Your pocket realm is a bit too small for that, and you probably could lock down a universe with enough effort maybe not fully but you could probably take control of the main dimensional chokepoints, living in a resource poor backwater is pretty great cause it's just not worth it to invade you and you can just develop alternative non RE paths of power like tech
>>96805824anon you're talking about the old version
>>96805835No its still the same
>>96805830nah, it's big enough to have a decent city in there>>96805842go read italso primordial essence doesn't really have a downside, you just get to ingest more power per tier, everyone would be happy about thatplus the vagueness about what it does means that you can declare what you do yourself, like if you're related to a phoenix you might respawn to some limited extent
>>96805856Have read them, I accurately described both
>>96805842Karmic Alignment now states>while being undetermined would grant you wide access to both.
techchads counter old monsterswhen have you ever met an oldfag that was good with technology?
>>96805865no, you're still saying it restricts your autonomy and need to be good or evil, which is not true at all
>>96805867>he's taking the power to get a shitty mix instead of a superpowered specializationTake something elss
>>96805884why? the amount of power you get is the same, nothing implies the mix is worse than the specialization
>>96805895>anon did not read the power
>>96805902yeah i did, the power is the same, if you want a mix then the mix empowers you
>>96805778I guess it depends on your interpretation. Bottlenecks seemed a big issue based for example from that cannibal even decription that will force you to take harder challanges. Same with tribulations which can be lethal and challenging and something you will face a lot, now become trivial and very rewarding.+ it makes you cultivate fast reaching higher stages faster. These 3 are main reason I take HCF. It just feels like an easy mode for dealing with cultivation stuff. The extra method is just a nice bonus on top and I would pick HCF even without it.
>>96805913Karmic jobbers never ever
>>96805921more power for them i guess
>>96805927>karmic>powerPick one
Post your Grand Inheritance tier list.
>>96805965>god tierlost legacy >s tiereverything else
>>96805965>Viable choiceEverything else>F tierJob legacy
>>96805965Unbound CausalityHCFDick DevourerAuxiliary MasterVoid BodyOversoulMentor RingDharma WeaponPerfect GuardianLost LegacyPrimordial EssenceKarmic Alignment
Why do people shit on Primordial Essence so much? It can give you a lot of useful shit depending on the bloodline you choose.
>>96806014those primordial creatures died for a reason (they're jobbers)
Post cyoas
>>96806020The original owners of every single grand inheritance were all jobbers tooI think Perfect Guardian is the only one that has an argument for not being one
>>96806014It has a tiny downside so anon can't pretend it's omnipotent.Also anon overvalues cultivation speed multipliers because it sounds like it'll also multiply power growth even though it doesn't.
>>96806049it doesn't even have a downside, that's like saying being allowed to make a bigger blast by stacking more explosives is a downside because you need to get more explosives first
Oh God Dharmit
>>96806014Its vague as fuck
>>96805965HCFDevourerGuardianDharma weaponCasualityAuxilliary techniquesLost legacyPrimordial essenceOversoulMentor ringKarmic alignment
>>96806097>he can't imagine a dragonngmi
>>96806100Oh and void body between Guardian and Dharma weapon
>>96806104>headcanon
>>96806097That's one of it's strengths. You can choose a bloodline that fits your build and essentially all the powers it can give you, within reason.
I took the GI that gives me the best swordfu.
>>96805965legacy>void = primordial = auxiliary>oversoul = conqueror = devourer>dharma = causality = mentor = guardian = karmic
>>96806114>he doesn't take advantage of choices asking him to make up his own shit AKA the mechanically most powerful and most interesting and sovlful choicesThe jobbest.
>>96806114explicitfag...
>>96805256how do you survive a gunshot beofre the later stages? With that logic every build jobs to fucking Richard. The thing is the future.
Primordial jobbers really think they got something
>>96805544why would you devour your wife? bro? your dharma children?
>>96806235because, even though he's spending time on cyoas, he's not taking them seriously, making his time making builds unfulfilling and meaningless
>>96806160>headcanonSorry, doesn't work the way you think it does
>>96804760For what it’s worth, I dropped Heaven-Blessed from my Lilu build. I misread the complications at first and didn’t realize one was mandatory, thus worth no points. I’m fine with that, though, since Cataclysmic Cultivation is extremely generous with default protagonist powers and what you can get from blessings. Heaven-Blessed felt like cheating at that point, plus it being meant for another made me a bit suspicious
>>96806247it does, there's a superior choice in the cyoa that your autism doesn't allow you to take, and there's nothing you can do about it :)
Do you guys unironically just turn your brain off whenever you play/read a cyoa
>>96806258>my headcanon is good because I said soLol, lmao
>>96806295>>96806247explicitfag...
>>96806291Brain?
>>96806306the thing you severed when you misread heart as brain
>>96805965>HCFThis is a talent boost in disguise, as you permanently gain the capacity of using 3 methods at the same time, which is huge, the cyoa also says using 2 methods is a nearly unheard talent, imagine 3.This will also stay when you get better methods.>Dick devourerThe potential man option. You don't even need to get a primordial bloodline to get as strong as a primordial bloodline, you can fuse bloodlines, I imagine that a few dozen worlds worth of bloodlines fused into "God Dick Of Gluttony" or something will be the equivalent of a primordial bloodline, so you can kinda make one of those and then improve.>Dharma WeaponEnough said, its the best weapon, the potential man of weapons. Also, the lore drop that you can create a spiritual weapon bloodline with the spirit is... at some point the weapon will be a "Perfect Guardian" in a sense, as they will be alive, be able to interact with you and be very strong.>Primordial EssenseThe strongest type of natural (not dick devourer fusions) bloodline. Also rises your potential.>Void BodyTHE combat GI, but also boring in my eyes. " I nerf you and boost my allies" okay.>Unbound casualityTime fuckery is hax>Perfect GuardianStrong waifu>Mentor RingStrong teacher>Auxiliary Masternot my cup of tea but its very useful>Karmic AlignmentThe esoteric shit can be good, but the Good Vs Evil nerfs it, like the murasama and murasame of SC>OversoulEh, you can get that level of knowledge on your own eventually>Lost legacynot my cup of tea, but its very useful. At the end of the day tho, its something you could get on your own eventually.
Do a tier list, buf of companions. I hope Mono and Cassian are on top
>>96806364marie lyra ajax goodrest bad
>>96806376Why those are good but the rest are bad? it can't be waifu potential, when there are better waifus
>>96806385because i like those and don't like the others
>>96806391and why is that?
>>96806364I don’t care about them.
companions? those are for pussies and because of pussy.Real men become gross, ugly and become loners
My favorite method and your favorite method are both great and cool.
>>96806424this is peak Ascended Master from Entropist, but people are too scared to have extra arms because "I will be ugly!"
>>96806424I would refine you for a 0.000000001% power upgrade
>>96806424If you could cast a magic spell that kills all humans besides you, but also makes you gross and ugly, would you do it?I wouldn't
>>96806451Nobody would willingly stand beside him if he were gross and ugly. Useless spell.
>Now that I have crazy magical powers I want to make friends and find people who love meJobber mindset >Now that I have crazy magical powers I want to do push ups and eat weeds in a cave all day every dayChampion material
>Now that I have crazy magical powers I'm going to hide in a cave because I'm scared of dangerjobber mindset>Now that I have crazy magical powers I'm going to boldly and directly pursue power. The greater the risk the greater the benefitchampion material
>>96804760>>96800218As promised, my second buildalready have a third as well on the block for writefagging>Methods:>Heart-Severing Mantra>Akashic Ascension RecordsThe perfect fusion of the Id and Ego, control over the emotional and the logical in equally elevated amounts; at the highest levels, creation of tulpas built upon specific emotions, which in turn are specialized in what those emotions can do, as well as the ultimate in controlling lesser minds by reinforcing hostile thoughts with emotions of satisfaction and contentment, making others feel as if such thoughts were made by themselves rather than introduced by a foreign conscious. Planned embodied emotion is Pity: if Sorrow is used to shield the mind, then pity as a sorrow directed at others means I can bestow my mental protections and boons upon others.>Blessings:>Decentralized OrgansAs my mind ascends past the limits of my body, my physical organs become as hard to destroy as an idea is to be dispelled from my conscious; in gaining tulpas, sub-minds, and emotional constructs, I can distribute these organ-ideas amongst them.>Third EyeWith my mind expanding and integrating within myself to an unprecedented degree, this frees up my senses to be able to detect and perceive such things that others would be incapable of processing when their minds are already so busy and preoccupied with baseline reality.>Iron WillI control both my emotions and how I logically perceive my reality, both from without and within. At this level it is elementary to divorce my sense of pain and harm from fear and instinct, instead seeing it as a useful tool to gauge my current health and ability to continue living, but not something that would affect my will or determination. Additionally, I am synchronized enough with my own mental processes that any hostile or esoteric effect on my mind has a certain amount of ‘mental distance’ it has to cross, allowing me to analyze and counter the effect before it affects me.
>Now that I have crazy magical powers I act according to the drives of the crazy magical power in me jobber mindset>Now that I have crazy magical powers I will first try to become uncrazy champion material
>>96806424>Gets jumped and BTFO'D by my armyHeh what a jobber.
>>96806558>Kind TribulationsSince my Methods have very little in the way of physical enhancement, my tribulations are mainly centered within my own self and soul; with the fine control I have over my own mental development, there is little the world can do to negatively affect my mind that I cannot easily rework and rethink into an idea that reinforces my own position. It is quite literally an exercise in mental gymnastics.>Communication ExpertLanguage is but a construct for an individual to express their self to others; I have divorced myself from any mental foundations I may have had as a baseline human, so I no longer perceive differences in communication as a barrier I have to cross. Instead, communication is like a set of clothes: I can just as easily communicate with gods and eldritch beings as I can with beasts and noetic ideas, just as I can easily change from a suit and tie to pajamas and slippers.>Treasures:>Spirit LanternA good tool to help my mind stay sharp in the early stages of development, and stays useful later on, letting me practice speaking half-truths, lies of omission, and other such evasions of falsehood until they no longer appear even under the light of the lantern, thus letting me bring it to discussions and diplomatic tables as a symbol of fairness and equality while still manipulating my opponents as I see fit.>Golden VesselBeing an admittedly cripplingly mental cultivator, it’s useful to have physical devices to help with transport and general heavy lifting as I travel and improve; also, it improves moral of companions and allies, giving them personal space to develop themselves.>Scrying MirrorsUseful for outward observation when my own perception is mainly turned inwards; and while they may be warded to prevent attack through the connection, nothing is stopping me from splitting off a barely-formed tulpa to teleport through the mirror as a sacrificial range extension for my mental powers.
>>96806567>Perfect ServantInnately possessing a connection to myself and a nascent form of my own powers, aside from being useful as a secretary and manager, it can be used as a testing ground for power combinations and techniques that may prove harmful or detrimental if I were to experiment with them within myself.>Power ArmorThe most needed enhancement, as I have very little in the way of personal physical protection; I may be able to withstand and deflect mind control and other esoteric effects, but there is next to nothing I can do against a physical attack beyond the knowledge that with decentralized organs it is unlikely to be completely fatal.>Grand Inheritance:>OversoulI have no way to tell if my mental focus was due to this previous soul imprinting on me, or if it is my talent for mental expertise that diffused and dismantled their attempted coup; either way, it has provided me with the much needed basic knowledge to make full use of my faculties and mind, allowing for a much more seamless amalgamation of logic and emotion control.>Companions:>AlvaIf I am mainly focused inwards, Alva is mostly focused outwards; We compliment each other in that way, as I can potentially use her undead thralls as soul containers for my tulpas, meaning I can use less energy on the bodily formation and more on the powers I can give them, while she can make use of the mental protections I provide… and her desperate need for social interaction and lack of social skills make her an easy target for mental manipulation.
>>96806560>BEING CRAZY IS LE BAD>TAKE YOUR MEDICINEglowie
>>96806571>AliceWhile I can manipulate the mental, she can manipulate the spiritual, and perhaps even the physical; in doing so, we can more effectively control any we come across than either of us would on our own. Additionally, it’s pitifully easy to keep her in line, as all I need to do is to create a Devotion tulpa to be her minder and stay close to her at all times, reinforcing her dependency on me through becoming her ideal parent/partner/sibling. With enough devotion, I can easily manipulate her into become the ultimate berserker-protector, aiming her at my enemies and making her think that they aim to take me away from her.>Events:>Hive QueenWhat is a swarm to an undead army? If nothing else, evenly matched, leaving me to pursue the Queen, either ‘persuading’ her to join my cause… or breaking her will entirely if I cannot. The former would make a formidable ally, while the latter would make up for it by being the perfect RE-battery for Alice. In both cases, the control of a pestilent swarm would be the perfect force multiplier for Alva’s corpse-thralls, as the mutant insects could easily nest within the rotting flesh.>Treasure HuntAlva proves a priceless tool once again, her undead army perfect for overwhelming any defenses that might bar our path, with Alice can drain the energy of any RE-based trap or hostile effect. I can deal with enemy cultivators or treasure hunters, anything from an aura of uninterestingness - a fusion of apathy and inverted curiosity - to making areas we are in seem more dangerous than is worth the risk, or just outright mentally attacking any who get past those defenses and suggestions.
>>96806578>The CannibalThis one is pitifully easy. Even without an undead army that can easily flush out a single person, I have a yandere at my beck and call perfectly ready and willing to kill anyone who tries to remove me from her; all I need to do is make it look like I got killed by the cannibal - most easily done by sacrificing my tulpa and both planting physical evidence and thoughts within Alice’s head, convincing her that it has either killed me, or at least got close enough to doing so, to send her into a psychopathic murder rage and then just wait for her to present the monster’s corpse at my feet.>Profundity in ViolenceThe world bears scars of the calamity in ways that may not be easily seen by the naked eye: sentient ideoforms and psychic constructs entered the human realm of thought during the portal storms, but when the barriers solidified once more, baseline earth-normality was reinforced and forced these beings of pure thought back out to the realms of which they originated. But, the voids they left behind still exist; whether it be in ideas hidden from the human mental space that I can now perceive as I ascend higher past my limitations, or the tattered remnants of alien thoughts left behind as their owners were ousted that, as my mind expands, I can now contain without overwhelming my entire consciousness.>Wandering TempleWhile I personally am incapable of repairing the engine myself, an ideatic basis such as religion is pitifully simple to overcome even through basic diplomacy and discussion; besides, if needs be I can simply enthrall him and make him repair it anyways, or implant suggestions and compulsions in his compatriots to overwhelm him from a social standpoint.
>Devourer + Unbound CausalityLuv me quick saving and homicide, just liek Skyrim
>>96806586>Complication:>IncompetentMy Methods are entirely inwards-focused; even my tulpas are simply fragments and reflections of my inner self. I am incapable of producing physical, outward items not because my being spoils the product, but because I am simply incapable of infusing the required RE amounts within something that is not fundamentally of myself.
>>96805525Nah
>>96806444Nigga Dragon > AM
>>96805778All the examples of what KA can do are basic things I would expect from Heart Severing. In fact that whole whole GI should have been Scrapped and rolled into HSM.
>>96806578>Alice believerRake would be proud of you fucking the crazy bitch
>>96806346>lost legacy not my cup of tea, but its very useful. At the end of the day tho, its something you could get on your own eventually.The castle is an anomaly of craftsmanship so your pretty much have simmilar chances to acquire the other GI trough some means as your likely to get a similar time dilation artifact to the castle. So I guess if you could theoretically acquire all the GI eventually, might just take a million years.
>>96806424Anti-Softie...
>>96806648>fucking the crazy bitchhahaha no I'm not that stupid, I'm foisting that off on a tulpa specifically made to manipulate her into the perfect puppetif you have multiple bodies, it's easy as hell to manipulate a yandere
>>96806682>sad Rake can be heard on the distanceI am also disappointed in you, son
>>96806682What are you going to do at the start while you don't have tulpas yet?
>>96806436Yes they are fren
>>96806558I like this type of thematic builds.
Reminder that Fated Shot Doctrine is unquestionably the coolest method.
>>96806558You shouldve taken HCF for celestial scrolls
>>96806689I was thinking of a Demon King build that would take Alice as a cornerstone of the build and actually work with her instead of just abusing her but I don't know if I will post it>>96806682>it's easy as hell to manipulate a yandereSure, until you unknowingly break one of her incontrollable sensitivities and you suddenly wake up with your eyes gouged out, alongside those of all your subjects.
>>96806733The coolest is the sword singing method. I sing for your death and become a sword saint.
>>96806733Are you fated shot with sutra for stealth sniper build or fated shot with inferno tablet for perfect offense?
>>96806734nahhcf is powerful yes, but none of the other methods really fit with the flavor of the build I was going for
>>96806747I am fated shot with sword singing
>>96806745I took fated shot with sword method so I can use Dharma musket with bayonet
>implying
>>96806747>fated shot with sutra for stealth sniper buildAdd Rifts Codex and snipe from another dimension.
>>96804764this is a picture of someone with heartwood/swarm
>>96806766Its over
>>96806733>>96806745no the coolest is the ice method
You aren't a jobber, right anon?
>>96806909of course not, i'm not you
>>96806909There’s nothing wrong with being a jobber.
Rake confirmed that Spirit Stones count as materials, huge news for Lost Legacy.
>>96806909This is the face of someone that gets raped by Cassian and added to his harem.
rake confirmed that everyone other than me is weaker than my cc build, huge news for me
>>96805965>S rank (top tier)Conqueror Foundation: overall makes cultivating a much smoother task and it is already rare enough to have 2 cultivations, so going further to 3 of them is bound to be good and open up a bunch more synergies between them.Devourer Physique: honestly the only thing keeping it from being game breaking is the diminished returns from weaker targets so at some point this power gathering will slow down to a crawl, but even then it's a busted abilityPrimordial Essence: being able to punch up your stage is incredible as you practically start at stage 2 instead of 1, and once you reach earth's limit of 10 you would (probably) the only 11, that's not even counting the cool monster transformation+abilities you get>A rank (strong)Dharma Weapon: solves the glaring issue of having to constantly seek out new better weapons from cultivation methods that require them such as the fated shot doctrine, the fact that it comes with an eventual loyal waifu is a big extra benefit (S rank if combo'd with weapon god physique)Oversoul: avoid deviations and gives you a massive headstart in manipulating RE and creating/improving your techniques, simple but strong in the early and late stages (S rank if combo'd with innovate and peerless prodigy)Perfect Guardian: immortal waifu whose entire cultivation focuses on making you stronger and can tank any damage for you is crazy good, I just think it lacks that unique oomph to make this an S rank so it would be an honorary A+ rank.Void Body: personally not a fan of powers that focus on weakening others rather than strengthening you, but draining luck and fate could be a life saver against certain enemies
>>96806992No I rape cassian and then add him to my harem. We are not the same.
>>96806994Stop talking to gardening tools anon.
>>96807003>B rank (not bad, but lacks compared to the others)Auxiliary Master: pretty strong for crafter builds but then again I am biased against them in a setting where might makes rightLost Legacy: only reason it is here is for the hyperbolic time chamber to cultivate faster, but I don't see a reason to have an obscene amount of treasures when you are just a lvl 1 mook who knows next to nothing about crafting, it is all going to sit in your storage for most part of your journey doing nothingUnbound Causality: cool trick but it is not true time travel nor a save point as you need to consciously use it so you can still get assassinated>C rank (only for RP builds)Karmic Alignment: I hated the arbitrary evil/good system of games like infamous, why would you want this irl?Mentor Ring: this is just guardian and oversoul but worse than either of them
>>96807010We are not the same because you were rated and added ro his harem. Its not something I've ever had to worry about about honestly.
anons is heroes journey drawback a trap?
>>96807018Jobber mindset anon, if you cannot rape your opponent then you deserve to get raped by your opponent.
>>96807025Nope, it means you're going to get dragged into quests, drama, and story arcs instead of living a mostly normal life outside of chance encounters.
>>96807003Void Body is S ranked whether you like it or not. If Dharma Weapon is A then so is Primordial.
>>96806987why did you need that confirmed??
What's the best emotion for Heart-Severing Mantra?
>>96807081spite
>>96807081lust
>>96807076To see if it works with Essence Furnace and the like. I assumed it would, but better safe than sorry.
>>96807081Vague sense of unease.
>>96807081Ennui
>>96807081Determination probably, it's always useful.
>>96807087
>>96807110Not an emotion
>>96807081Rage will always be the best emotion made into a power. Hate is a close second.
>>96807124Rake-sama confirmed it works
>>96807143Rake is retarded and dosent get to determine what an emotion is. It also makes absolutely no sense with how HSM is written.
Rake identifies with/as neco-arc of course he’s retarded
>>96807087>>96807139All different shades of the same thing really.
>>96807160bro even fucking wikipedia calls it an emotion, you've lost this one
>>96807160Rake-sama confirmed you're ngmi
>>96806758That's a keyblade.
What nemesis would you take with a crafter build?
>>96807197>Wikipedia Is this nigga serious
>>96807212Cassian, he's a hell of a one trick pony. It's a very strong trick but still.
>>96807196Not really and they manifest in different ways. Rage or anger doesn't necessarily come from the same place as hate, you can hate something without being angry at it and vice versa. Spite is somewhat close to hate but not necessarily the same, I would say that hate is more visceral than spite. As for powers, I would say that they could manifest in several different ways, though spite would be about weakening others for the most part while hate could do pretty much anything from making a hate plague to cursing people.
>>96807081Shotgun
>>96807238>>96807196for me, spite is a reactive emotion, i don't feel it on my own, only when someone or something is fucking with me
>>96807213>grandpa still thinks wikipedia badyou're the 60+ year old poster aren't you.
>>96807238They have the same root, and more importantly there is not enough of a distinction for manifesting powers.
>>96807238Spite is more about buffing endurance and continuing to keep going, I think.
>>96807003>Devourer Physique: honestly the only thing keeping it from being game breaking is the diminished returns from weaker targets so at some point this power gathering will slow down to a crawl, but even then it's a busted abilityThats just stats. The bloodlines, physiques and other abilities are gotten in full and you can develop them
>>96807212Yesod would objectively be the funniest.
>>96807291>>96807221Too bad Rake's gay and won't let you take two nemeses
>>96807211yes, a keyblade that is a sword + gun. In fact, Dharma weapons are keyblades, as both of them change sizes and forms, you can use magic throught them and they are busted
>>96807330i mean you're free to go out and piss someone off until they treat you like one
>>96807330>two nemesesdo you wanna die that bad?
>>96807330Rake has to be at least a little into men.
>>96807349It'll be even cooler when I win the 1v2(my companions aren't allowed to help, I want a challenge)
>>96807330>Blessing of [SRTR]
>>96807349A competent player could take them all as nemeses without the slightest difficulty.
>>96807382>a littleAnyone who uses anime girls as their avatar is a homosexual.
>>96807349He just wants to be double teamed by Cassian and Hirak.
>>96807274I can see that youre a barely functional subhuman, so you're going to be shocked to find out that hungry and tired aren't emotions either.
>>96807414Yea yea go back to bed grandpa.
>>96807414Ok unc.
if you can tolerate pseudo-fallen isn't possession basically the same shit except it triggers randomly instead of in danger and there's nothing to gain at the end
>>96807414Whatever you say boomer.
>>96807407This. I usually assume anime avatars = gay or trans
>>96807213it's a lot more reliable these days
Heart-Severing Mantra (Fear) is the best method for you Jobbers
>>96807414Hunger is the most fundamental feeling
>>96807468Yes. Fear, Hunger and Lust (procreation) are the three primordial feels.
>>96807402Triffil alone would make mulch of your corpse.
>>96807437the spirit tries to take control in life and death situations, and not the way that pseudo fallen does where you go berserk, but in a way that fuck you both. that said it easier to get rid of the possession. they both have their ups and downs
>>96807255>>96807285Spite is specifically about causing harm or inconvenience to someone for the whole reason of doing it, whether there's a clear cause or not. It's not the same as anger and it's not something that can be considered deserved. It's more associated with envy and bitterness than hate, you can spite someone just because they had better luck than you at a game.The powers can be whatever you consider appropriate for the emotion.
>>96807484>Yes. Fear, Hunger and Lust (procreation) are the three primordial feels.Hang on. Is Cassian so lecherous because of his physique? Maybe we should be more understanding of him. He might physically have an unnatural libido.
>>96807492no, it tries to take control randomly including in life or death situations because it's an idiot who doesn't realize that's a bad idea
>>96806909I am allowed to be a bit of a jobber, because my perfect guardian waifu is 1 stage above me will protect me and save me from harm.
>>96807496for me it would be resilience
>>96807081Depends on build, rage goes well with pseudo fallen, Warhound, and berserker pills though.
>>96806733And it was stolen from luminary...
>>96804932All that time they spend getting good at crafting is time they didn't spend cultivating, they compensate by using all the materials and spirit stones given to them to go faster, no shit load of money and near no one would bother learning the auxilliary crafts.Keeping the unused stuffs encourage them to get better to pocket more of it and grow in cultivation while imrpoving in sklls and becoming able to craft better stuff, making them useful to stronger cultivator that need the help.Cultivation societies are pyramid schemes made by the one that fail to keep on growing and need help to reach the next stage.
>autists cant disguinish between feelings, sensations, and other mental processes Why am I not surprised.
How do Guardianfags feel when their protector-waifu is getting (figuratively) pounded by your enemies? As hot-blooded man, I would never stand for my woman to bleed for me while I cower behind her.
>>96807496Also this>>96807114
>>96807562>wants to get pounded by his enemies
>>96807562bro your guardian is you, that's you getting poundedfag
Personal power is superior to crafting. That’s why Dr. Eggman always loses to Sonic.
>>96807574>would rather his waifu get pounded by his enemies instead
>>96807562Thats why my Guardian is a big burly man
>>96807591dick devourer....
>>96807576First of all, I would never be a guardiansissy. Second, it doesn't change the fact that they see their guardian as a separate entity, more often a lover.
>>96807576>wants to make part of himself a woman that gets pounded by his enemies>calls others fag
>>96807609>more often a lover.>>96807594>Thats why my Guardian is a big burly manHmm...
>>96807552It's all Qualia, which I would say is valid for Heart Severing
>>96807637no you use shadow spirit to sever your brain
>>96807562>I would never stand for my woman to bleed for me while I cower behind her.this is why you are a weakling and I'm going to devour your heart after my guardian reduces you to a mangled corpse
>>96807562My methods are celestial scrolls and verdant heartwood, I need someone to protect me.
>>96807569I see Loss
>>96807634>The exception is the rule>Doesn't know what "more often" meansThe amount of retards here lately is astounding.
>>96807679add the stone method so you have the druid trifecta and protect yourself
>>96807698bro that wasn't an exception at all, it was the standard fag bragging that he's a fag statement, they do that all the time
>>96807407Neco arc is barely female
>>96807729>he's not retarded just gaydifference?
Has gil posted that black woman slave cyoa he promised?
>>96807466Fear would be great if you could project fear instead of being terrified yourself
>>96807866no
Is the fact that the guardian is a waifu really up for debate?
>>96807466No its severing mantra(lust), thats the only way these jobbers wont die to their first enemy.
>>96804932I don't know what I would even pick if I couldn't take Auxiliary/lost legacy
>>96807869>Fear would be great if you could project fear instead of being terrified yourselfThat's the default emotion if powerfags, so nothing would change really.
>>96807873can someone go beat him until he does?
>>96807903thank you for volunteering
>>96807866Wait gil is bbw-chad? maybe he's more based that I thought...
>>96804748>>96804760mhhh i want to take fated shot doctrine but then the techniques of fated shot doctrine would be rendered useless once i destroy fate later on...
>>96807883the majority of people would have a waifu. Even women would have a husbando. Having a super powerful person protect you is fine, having that super powerful person be super hot and compatible with you is even better.Realistically the number of people that would just want a friend in this post apocalyptic world where you know no person, are few.
>>96807931Just change it to luck instead
>>96807935>Even women would have a husbando.There's no women here
>>96807931You can't destroy Fate, silly.
>>96804748The guardian is (You). Making the guardian your waifu means that:1. if she is a woman, you are a tranny.2. if he is a man, you are gay.
>>96807944Thats not the topic. The thing is that humans, in general, men and women, would choose their guardian to be like that. It's not a thing about 4chan men
>>96807944The anon obsessed with sexing dogs is definitely a white woman.
>>96807954They aren't LITERALLY you
>>96807954I didn't have a gender, just a bodyIf a female body was made for part of my soul, it would be as female as the male part is maleThis is not a philosophy I stumbled upon, nor was I lead by logic. T'was neccecity that lead these thoughtsIf it ever at all becomes possible, I will clone myself, and when I do I need to be prepared in advance to have sex with myself. If I wouldn't do it then I wouldn't do it, and then I would just have a shitty female clone with body dismorphia who won't have sex with meAnyway so yeah it doesn't really matter
That is it. I am bored. I have grown bored of this wuxia cyoa. Next OC, please! Move your ass, you useless authors!!
Which method is the worst?
>>96807912is that what BBW stands for
>>96808005The favourite of Rake, the insect one. Imagine having to pee and see your cheese dick full of wasps.
>>96808005The sword one since even normal guns are better until stage 6
>>96808036Why did he like that one
>>96808074reddit brain
>>96808083How is that reddit
>>96808113Reddit = I don't like
>>96808113Reddit is a hivemind
>>96807936makes sense>>96808005i don't like skin shredding scripture and verdant heartwood gives you control for plats and makes you heal other people (lame)
>>96808135Fate can't be destroyed, you can, momentarily, defeat Fate. But destroying Fate would mean destroying a concept of reality. The setting does not scale that high
>>96808153>The setting does not scale that highCultivation does scale that high.
>>96808113The love to eat the bugs
>>96807931There are other ways to be a gunjeet.
>>96808005A lot of the methods kind of suck desu.
>>96808153I will destroy (((heaven's will))) and (((fate))) alongside it
>>96808166This is not "Cultivation TM, insert X cultivation setting, it exists here and all its concepts are also here!"Rake already said the very peak of the setting is universal. You are not destroying concepts.
>>96808181>Universal tier concepts
>>96808181>peak of the setting is universalHad to ruin it
>>96808188>The concept of Fate is a concept of the reality, of the multiverse of the setting>But I can destroy an universe!>You still can't destroy a concept of realityIf every cultivator at that level can destroy concepts, the whole multiverse stops having concepts at all
>>96808174>t.Charlotte
>>96806558and finally the third build as well>Methods:>Shadow-Spirit Sutra>Tempestuous Rifts Codex>Heavenly Celestial ScrollsI am the inheritor of the Cataclysm, metamorphosing into a walking portal storm; by the end of my development, I will be naught but a spectre of condensed RE out of phase with conventional reality, capable of summoning devastating lightning as well as opening portals to realms of light to scout souls, or summoning the dead or even greater horrors from distant realms.>Blessings:>Iron WillAs I slowly sublimate into the barriers of reality itself, my mind becomes less and less recognizably human, or even conventionally sentient, making attacks that focus on the mind and perception ineffective at best.>InnovativeI have found rare insight in the specific combination of my Methods, creating the primitive foundations of an entirely novel Method, that of the Portal Storms themselves. As of now, this only presents itself as the ability to fuse and combine my techniques in ways that none would think, but the closer I get to attaining my true form, the greater the chance I can completely fuse my Methods into a greater whole.>Peerless ProdigyThe world still suffers from the aftereffects of the Cataclysm, and as such I naturally gather the lingering energies of the storms into my self, making cultivating an automatic response within the bounds of earth; when I fully transform into a living portal storm, I will no longer need said connection to earth, self perpetuating my own cultivation.>Deceitful TricksterInheriting the Cataclysm has the added benefit that any who try to divine me or predict my actions will only see the primordial chaos that governed the storms that ravaged the earth. The more I attune myself to that same energy will let me control what is seen, snatching visions of any person who was killed in the Cataclysm.
>>96808219Still find it funny how Charlie would've failed if she went after any of the other two Elder GodsJNPL was the only one willing to be killed off for the story
>>96808173Elaborate.
>>96808227>Kind TribulationsAs the Cataclysm was a tribulation for earth and collective humanity, the subsentient laws of RE that govern tribulations see me, the inheritor of that Great Tribulation, as one of its own. It cannot go against its nature and thus still presents me with my own tribulations to overcome, but they are more encouraging, as if it is welcoming me into itself.>Lowly JuniorThe powerful see me as nothing more than another aftereffect of the Cataclysm; just as the storms faded from the earth with time, they are falsely assured that I too shall pass soon enough to not matter.>Treasures:>Totem of RebirthA trump card, in case someone is able to push past my concealments and defenses and kill me before I am able to completely sublimate my flesh into phase-shifted RE.>Pocket DimensionSince I’m planning on discorporating entirely, I will be leading a mostly ascetic existence, so this is essential to hold any items and equipment I need up until the point that I no longer have a body to use said physical objects.>Stores of WealthUseful for trade, but mostly as stock to sell at the Grand Bazaar.>Power ConcealerThis combined with Lowly Junior and Deceitful Trickster makes it nearly impossible for anyone to meaningfully detect my presence beyond any passive effects I have, and even then it would be hard for anyone to pin said effects on me. Also, it’s useful in hiding my Doomsayer features if I ever need to interact or trade with normal humans. As soon as I fully transform I will no longer need to hide anything.>Market TicketUseful to gain RE in the early stages until I have enough passive power that I can hide behind my concealment effects while still affecting others.
>>96808219>TORTURE IS MEANINGFVL O ALGOI decide what meaning is. Understanding the Dao is my journey alone.
>>96808237>Grand Inheritances:>Heavenly Conqueror FoundationJust as the Cataclysm awakened humanity to the Three Thousand Worlds and the RE that infuses it, I am fated to become a living embodiment of that phenomenon, and travel to other virgin worlds to awaken them as well; a living, wandering storm of calamity and enlightenment.>Void BodyI naturally feed on the RE of others to feed the nascent storm within me. While I cannot necessarily make use of the energy thus consumed, it is used in easing my ability to cultivate, solidifying my Foundation, softening my Tribulations, and providing me with Innovative and Peerless Insight.>Companions:>IskaIf I am to inherit the Calamity, so too should I inherit the consequences of it, a spectre of the loss I would inflict on other worlds, a living reminder that just as I will awaken others, doing so will come at great cost. She wishes to gain a body, but as I remove my own I shall show her the transcendence of a discorporated existence, being able to step between realities with ease and stay safe in the shadows of the dimensions. Eventually, I will convince her to follow me to new worlds, and absorb the memories of those that perish in the calamities I bring, a living cenotaph to those deaths required for a world’s enlightenment.>UrulHe and I share a talent for hiding ourselves, and just as he is marked as monstrous at first sight, so too am I proclaimed as a walking prophecy of doom. He may never fully trust me, but I am truthful in my promise to deliver him back unto his plane of origin, as soon as I gain my full power over the barriers between realms.>Events:>Corpse KingWith plenty of concealment effects and phasing protections, brute strength does little to affect me, and depending on when I encounter the king, I may have the celestial power to control the undead, either removing the danger of his armies, or enthralling him entirely.
>>96808253>Corrupted ZoneAs I become increasingly inhuman, dangerous or corruptive environs pose little and less of a risk to me. It will either be ineffective from the start, or it will be easy enough to phase the corruption or myself out of step with reality to lose any lingering effectiveness. To deal with the Fallen, I can either use celestial energies to forcibly purify him, or portal him to another realm.>Unstable RiftsI will claim the lingering consequences of the for myself, creating a personal realm and hub from which I can plan out which other realms I will bring the Cataclysm to next.>Profundity in ViolenceThe storms of the Cataclysm left many volatile scars in its wake, and I will travel the world finding these marks and scabs, to subsume their powers and insights into my own being.>Wandering TempleI have no interest in repairing the temple. I will hide in the shadows and learn how the teleportation engine works, using my sublimated senses to literally feel how the temple slides between locations, and eventually entire planes. Once I have integrated the underlying mechanisms, I will shroud the engine with my presence and phase-teleport it to my newly reclaimed prison and integrate it with the controller-artifact to transform it into a motile realm.>Complications:>Deviated FormFrom the beginning I will be consuming myself to become a discorporated being; the intermediate stages will be by nature unsettling and abhorrent.>LonelyAs I lose my humanity, it will become impossible for others to easily recognize me or keep me in their mortal minds for long. Besides, I will have no need for mortal companionship when I truly become a force of nature, with only Iska, my partner-in-remembrance to keep me company.
>>96808153>t.Heavenly Court
>>96808036>>96808039>>96808135>>96808173All of those are really good.
>>96808261>Uninhibited PowerI fully embrace my nature as inheritor of the chaotic portal storms, and my mere presence will be empowered by that esoteric, eldritch pseudo-bloodline, as I inevitably transform into a sentient Cataclysm.>DoomsayerFate foresaw a recurrence of the Cataclysm - no phenomenon that powerful is ever a singular event. While it is true that I will bring about the Cataclysm once again, I will not do so on earth; it has already been enlightened. Unfortunately, fate was not specific in where this Cataclysm reborn would take place, only that it would occur by my hand.
>>96808219Can't believe she though she could dimension hop into the 3 thousand worlds after getting her ass handed to her
>>96808210How is that worse than endlessly scaling slop?
>>96808290At some point my dick will be too powerful for universal vaginas. Such a limitation only limits my sex life. UN playable
>>96808290Im complaining because the ceiling is too high
>>96808327For you.
>>96808327What's the point of going xianxia if random isekai protagonists can still flex on you?And when's anon dropping that isekai title cyoa?
>>96808327that's not as bad as half the xianxia ridiculousness out there. also, rake kept it vague in the cyoa specifically so you could come up with your own endpoint if you wanted to. you're free to ignore him.
Lost legacy is trash tier.While inside, you are also experiencing time at 10x the speed, so you are losing lifespan at 10x the speed. May as well cultivate outside. It only makes you a faster cultivator relative to others, but cultivation is ultimately a contest with yourself.
>>96806254>Cataclysmic Cultivation is extremely generous with default protagonist powers and what you can get from blessings.And yet anons still whined
>>96808153Nuh uh.>>96808269verdant heartwood is a technique for girls, change my mind.
>>96808381retard-kun...
>>96808363>in my Chinese webtoonsOnce again, nobody asked.
>>96808388>verdant heartwood is a technique for girls, change my mind.plant tentacle
>>96808415you don't even feel what the plants touch also, flesh>plants
>>96808446You can, you are one with the plant. And your job as a plant is to seed
>>96804748He should make pic related cyoa, even Nigger-Man did a Lovecraft cat cyoa.
>>96808388>change my mind.There's nothing really feminine about it.
>>96808527you heal people and make plants grow instead of obliterating your enemies with raw killing intent or burning them in a raging inferno.you do gain enchanted regeneration witch is a saving grace.
>>96804760updating >>96799138 for hopefully the last time>MethodsLitany of the Living ForgeBone-Scrivened Talismanic Transcribe> BlessingsHeaven BlessedMerchant’s GuileJade BeautySeventh SensePerfect ConduitInnovativeDeceitful TricksterCommunication ExpertMastermindRight to RuleLowly Junior> TreasuresPortable WorkshopOmni-CompassEssence FurnaceSpliced TreeMarket TicketExtradimensional Library> Grand InheritancesAuxiliary MasterLost LegacyMentor Ring> CompanionsMarie SuYesod> EventsCorpse KingPlace of PowerTreasure HuntPassing ThroughWandering Temple> ComplicationsParasiteFated Nemesis (Cassian)Deviated Form (Horns)IncursionMinotaur’s LairCourting DeathPossessionFading AwayDefective MeridiansIndebtedFull merchant build. The idea is to get really, really good at both buying and making powerful items so I can integrate them into myself, as well as sell them to supplement my cultivation directly with spirit stones.Took Innovative to be even better at crafting, and Indebted to pay for it since I have Charisma:Yes to haggle as good a deal as is humanely possible, and can probably just tank the repayment with Lost Legacy/my own god tier money making skills if necessary.
>>96808587>you heal people and make plants growso give them cancer and grow cool plants
>>96808607You also empower other peoples techniques, pretty gay I would say
>>96808135>skin shredding scripture Whats not to like?
>>96808642flood their dantains with RE and pop it like a balloon
>>96808388You can be like Kurama from Yu Yu Hakusho. He was a very manly man, beloved by women everywhere.
>>96808644its basically a weaker version of devourer as a method.>>96808607>>96808651mind pointing me where in the cyoa says you can do that
>>96808587>>96808642Plants can be real scary. Carnivourus plants are a thing. You can also just parassitically absorb stuff with your roots. Depending on other methods you can do even more shit, and have massive reserves to spamm your other tecs.
>>96808839You can also just fling pieces of that one tree that if you touch it, these venomous needles break off that make you experience agonizing pain and suicidal ideation for the rest of your life.
>>96808839yes i know that they can be scary but how are plants going to be useful when you and your opponent are fighting 400 meters above ground?
>>96808604>Jade Beauty>Fated Nemesis (Cassian)
>>96808924Grow bigger plants.
>>96808935why do anons want to get raped so badly
>>96808924Grow plants out of your ass
>>96808935yes?
>>96808953They pick Cassian because his powers are simple, he's less of an unknown. You don't need to worry that anyone you meet has been mindcontrolled by akua, you don't need to worry whether that arrogant young master has a lotus bomb from yesod, you don't need to worry if alva's stealing the corpses from the hunting grounds. If you see an ogre of a man barrelling at you at seventy miles an hour, you run. That's it. It's dangerous and difficult, but it's a known factor.
Why are anons glazing the retard rapist so much?
>>96809010Only homosexuals pick Cassian. Real Cultivators pick Mary Sue so she can grow up and become a splendid rival.
>>96809023Better question is, why are people so sure Cassian's going to rape anyone?
>>96809010I think another big part that matters for how people decide their builds is that he is clearly written least sympathetically. Most other companions u could feel bad for killing them, but he is explicitly made unlikable.
>>96809010>"hehehe, he's just a simple brute, I'm sure to win!">said anon, shortly before rape
>>96809026you picked the Nameless Swordswoman as a rival, wtf are you on about?
>>96809070He'd be that friend who's an asshole but is cool with you
>>96808777>its basically a weaker version of devourer as a methodIt let's you synthesize and improve whatever you absorb. Unlike anons they compliment each other.
>>96809023Why does everyone assume he's retarded? He's got enough of a brain to cultivate and tries to stay out of trouble. Is it because he's direct and doesn't rely on intricate tricks?
>>96809098Anons have to assume strong = dumb and vice versa or else their fragile self-image will crumble
>>96809023because they read "he is practically invulnerable, at least to anything on his stage" as "he will always win against those in his stage"he just went the unga bunga route to improve is body as much as possible with an emphasis on durability, but he has none of the fancy mind, soul, elemental attacks any other cultivator could haveyou could quite easily counter him with most of the methods offered, or even just with primordial essence as it means you punch above your own stage
>>96809098>He's got enough of a brain to cultivateAs the corpses of millions of arrogant young masters show, being able to cultivate doesn't mean you can't be retarded
>>96809098"Smart" sissy betas hating on the actual gigachad they always claim they are
>>96809023The core of it is that low IQ third world shitposters glorify and lionize personalities like Cassian. When they start jerking off over how he's going to rape people's builds, they are self-inserting as him. They're jerking off to pvp rape, more or less, because they are animals.
why is this general so obsessed with third worlders?
>>96809214>third worldersthey are the authors
>As long as you're not a woman and humour him at least a little, he'll likely come around to seeing you as a kind of partner in crime, forming a genuine camaraderie.Cassian is STRAIGHT.
>>96809214Weaklings like try to pretend they are intelligent as a cope, so they also need someone to try to flex on at the same time.
>>96809228So is Yujiro
If a cyoa pulls some bullshit so obtuse that you have to get a paper and pen to figure it out is that a bad thinf because it's obtuse or a good thing because it's interesting enough to make you do it?
I see a lot of frogs in the well.
>>96809228It's not gay if it's Jade Beauty
Actually, I won already. All of you are just experiencing a flashback in your last moments, all the way back to when you were making cyoa builds on earth. In reality, I have already cut you in half and your body is about to hit the ground as soon as your flashback ends.
>>96809228he would 100% try to rape this guy >>96809026
>>96809316Anons... is it really over?
>>96809331Stand proud, anon. You were strong.
>>96809098Maybe not retarted but he's definitely short sighted as his description says his antics are going to bite him in the ass later. Plus his build puts all its egg in one basket minmaxing physical strength and durability. He is definitely in for a rude awakening later on when he gets into the level where people have mind-fuckery powers.
>>96808924Grow plants directly INSIDE of your opponents.
Cum directly INSIDE of your opponents.
>>96809362If you have spare cum you're doing something wrong
>>96809354Yes exactly, people forget always forget about Pollen-fuckery when discussing plant powers. With RE magic you can make simple allergies into deadly plagues or just cause the pollen to directly sprout into plants inside of anyone who inhales them.
>>96809397I think you meant to reply to this >>96809362 guy
>>96808924You are only thinking in terms of natural Earth flora. What about RE mutated flora that can create giant toxic spore clouds or shoot spear sized thorns hundreds of meters?
How the FUCK do you kill a Stone-Titan
>>96809408erosion
>>96809408Throw him into the sun
>>96809408Kissu
>>96809408Who gives a fuck. No one on earth has stone-titan but you anyways. Same with every other retarded argument on this general about methods, blessing, and other retardation. The cyoa is not multiplayer. You are not fighting anyone with any of the methods the cyoa presents for you on earth.
>>96809402No I didn't. Don't pull me into your gay discord rp faggotry.
>>96809316>>96809331not for me, i have other 2 phylacteries left and very close to become one with death (the concept)
>>96809408Challenge him to a spelling contest... of death
>>96809408Hit him with an attack strong enough to crack a mountain. Tempestuous Rifts also has spacial/dimensional distortion that could probably fuck them up by tearing the fabric of spacetime they're attached to.
The "people" who try to turn every CYOA into pvp arguments are the worst. I blame the Culling.
>>96809448What if they also have verdan heartwood and shadow sutra
KILL ALL PVPNIGGERS
>>96809478It's over
>>96809408inferno>>96809436to be fair other DIMA agents might have the same methods. that said i don't see the reason to start a conflict with them.
>>96809493The biggest conflict bait is the government leftovers. Even after everything, I bet the USA's giving tithes of spirit stones to Israeli cultivators.
>>96809510I've heard enough, 10 trillion spirit stones to Israel
>>96809478Well Tempestuous Rifts could summon something that can hit their spiritual body hard enough to break apart spiritual mountains. Once they are in pieces you just need something to fuck with their regeneration. All-Consuming Inferno or Thousand Venoms are probably the best choices presented in the cyoa but I'm sure there are others.Or you just toss them into the depths of the Sea of Souls and say "not my problem".
>>96809510>>96809522this will make the primordial jew very happy
>>96809408>Stone Titan>Super defenses, giant size and super strength>verdan heartwood>super regeneration, a lot of RE to spam techniques, can drain vitality and summon plants>Sword Singing>a lot of skill with the sword, can predict the result of a battle, make the enemy follow what you do, increased potency in weapons, can break reality and time to make long range attacks>Dharma weapons fits your methods and techniques>Dharma weapon becomes as big as you in titan mode>you are hard to damage in the first place>you regenrate the little damage>you control the battlefield and can make earth cutting attacks with your sword at long range
>>96809557Jobs to Inferno Tablets
>>96809566To be fair, they job much slower than 99% of other cultivators
>>96809566>Cut out the part on fire>RegenerateTry again
>>96809571big doesn't mean slow.
>>96809557We already know how that fight went.
is eternal frost pages the most underrated method? i just seen a couple of build take it and basically nobody talks about it>>96809571fair
>>96809585it's just boring
>>96809585the most underrated is the swarm method.The thing about eternal frost pages is like the fire method, but about ice.It changes burning anyting, to freexing anything
>>96809585I took it, I think it's one of the best, but you need to focus on that. I also didn't post my build because I don't want to be part of the constant shitposting.
Mentor Ring Methods and Lost Legacy Methods (if any) are plainly superior to any listed Method.
Instead of the Titans, you better start to think how to counter demonic shitters with Methods like BSVV. They can grow fast and jump stages. And they, much more likely than anyone else, will become your problem.
>>96809408Satsui no Hado
>>96809629>+300 horsepower deluxe motorcycle is plainly superior to any training tricycleSuch profound Insights... I can feel my comprehension expanding by the moment...
>>96809638But my tricycle is the strongest.
>>96809629Wow... Is dharma weapon better than a baseball bat from your local walmart too?
>>96809585forst is a top tier method, but I think most people overlook it because it doesn't really have a lot of obvious synergies with other methodsI really wanted to do an inferno + frost + heavenly scroll build, but verdant heartwood is way too good to pass up so I had to scratch that idea
>>96809656Wally World stands at the peak of the 3000 worlds as the mercantile capitol of cultivation. Even the most basic bat is 1000 times stronger there than a lowly backwater artifact.
>>96809667You aren't forced into fire & ice duality, you can go for stasis & growth duality just fine.
>>96809667someone already made a build like that yesterday if I'm not wrong
>>96809667thats also 3 energy methods, 0 body methods. At least 1 of each is recommended.
>>96809667>>96809689Yin yang scion already did ithttps://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96791933/#96797399
Frost > verdant heartwoodYou want to heal someone? freeze them until you have the way to heal them with pills or someone else help. Want to regenerate? why? just freeze attacks so they don't hit you. More power output, better defenses, time fuckery. The only thing the plant method win is >>96808415
>>96809397Scary might take False Death just in case
>>96809720More RE though.
>>96809720You are sleeping on being able to mess with metaphysical organs
>>96809775what does that even mean?
>>96809720The problem with putting some one in stasis and trying to find healing later is you are down a person until you get them healed. There are some situations where you need that injured person back in fighting conditions now, not later. Also "I won't need regeneration because I won't be hit" is like saying "I don't need a plan to win because I won't lose".
>>96809633Am Titan can confirm. I got no beef with anybody but edgy fucks constantly go on killing sprees.
>>96809795Prepare your anus
>>96809780You can use heartwood to give yourself special snowflake meridians and stuff like that
>>96809688that might not be a bad plan actually>>96809693>At least 1 of each is recommended.where does the cyoa say that?that is only more difficult when some of them don't even mention which type they arebesides, some energy methods also bring body benefits like verdant giving you regeneration or prismatic making you faster
>I freeze time>I flex on time and break your time stop>REEEE
>>96809808Sticking your dick in a rock; unwise.
>>96809781>The problem with putting some one in stasis and trying to find healing later is you are down a person until you get them healed. like everyone else without regeneration, but it stops people from dying. You just have to win>"I won't need regeneration because I won't be hit" is like saying "I don't need a plan to win because I won't lose".but in this case, the frost method is obviously a very defensive and offensive method, ice in general is good in both things. So Frost has better offense, defense and hax, it also would make you harder to hurt in the first place as you can end the fight way earlier and you are harder to hit. Plant has more RE and regeneration.
>>96809818>where does the cyoa say that?It's not the cyoa. Logic. You are better with a more well rounded figthing style than being a one trick pony.>that is only more difficult when some of them don't even mention which type they arethey are very obvious, the ones that are body based, are body, the ones that are controlling things outside the body, are energy based. And the ones that could be confusing, like HSM are stated as one or another.>besides, some energy methods also bring body benefits like verdant giving you regeneration or prismatic making you fasteryes, but the body methods are better overall for the body. If you make an earth titan fight h2h with a verdant user, both of them without really using RE, or we just give RE for regeneration to the verdant guy, the earth titan simply defeats the verdant regeneration guy, that would be a punching bag.
>>96809818>that is only more difficult when some of them don't even mention which type they areI'm deeply concerned for you if you can't tell that without being told.
>>96809827Im using your severed head
>>96809885Sticking your dick in a rock; unwise.
>>96809862>You are better with a more well rounded figthing style than being a one trick pony.there is a point to be made on doubling down on something you are already good at.
>>96809891>it broke already Too easy
What do you guys think of the Dreamwalker blessing?
>>96809832>You just have to winThat's the crux of the issue I presented. What if the person that is downed is needed to win?>Frost has better offense, defense and haxI'll give you better offense. But Heartwodd definitely has better defense. Regeneration is a type of defense and Heartwood is always passively regenerating while Frost has to actively try to counter. For hax... again I'd say Heartwood wins out a bit since they can fix things that would be very hard to fix like Deviations and can accelerate the growth of rare herbs and stuff that can be used for a variety of pills and such.All the Methods are roughly equally (yes they are, they cyoa out right says so), they are just different.
>>96809905Meh. Take if you're a spiritual build or you don't need anything else.
>>96809896I can see going full body, but going full energy is likely to mean getting stomped on for being too squishy at some point.
Every method is equal, they just have different approaches to conflict and progress. The strongest method is whichever one works best for your build.My build's still stronger than yours btw, all methods and GIs might be equal, but not all synergies are.
>>96809827>>96809891ahah, who would ever do that?
>>96809911>That's the crux of the issue I presented. What if the person that is downed is needed to win?Then you job. But that is such a specific scenario that is like if I say "what if you need an ice technique to win and you don't have it?".In a fight, you should be the strongest 99% of the time within your team. If the enemy can defeat your allies and you, you die. A scenario where your weaker teammates are that much needed to have multiple lives to win, is very weird.>But Heartwodd definitely has better defense. Regeneration is a type of defense and Heartwood is always passively regenerating while Frost has to actively try to counter.I don't know if its automatic, you spend RE and the method talks about "they can cycle their RE..." which I think makes it seem like a choice. But anyway. Let's say for the sake of the argument its automatic.Freezing (also in time) attacks > regenerating, as you could still instantly die because of the attack. The time/ice shield is very good. Seventh Sense plus Ice method is better than passive regeneration> For hax... again I'd say Heartwood wins out a bit since they can fix things that would be very hard to fix like Deviations and can accelerate the growth of rare herbs and stuff that can be used for a variety of pills and such.Thats utility outside of combat. Hax is more like very special abilities hard to counter in combat, like the time techniques. An example in anime is the Kamui of Obito in Naruto, that let him punch above his weight class because he couldn't be defeated by spatial fuckery. or Gojo of JJKAnd time techniques > the hax of heartwood.>All the Methods are roughly equally (yes they are, they cyoa out right says so), they are just different.ye, but I like frosty more
>>96809936OH SENSEI. What are the best synergies? Like weapon god phyique plus dharma weapon. O Grand SENSEI I ask you!
>>96810007>SENSEINah, I'm taking my secrets to the grave with me. If anyone seems like they're close to figuring them out, I'll distract them with headcanon and shitposting so I can rule alone.
>>96810027Those are some wise words, O Grand SENSEI! I will learn under your tutelage even if you don't want to teach me, ever act of yours is full of godly intent. And hopefully I will marry your beautiful daughter just so I can be part of your family.
>>96809905only really worth taking if you have heavenly scrolls or akashic records because you can enter this spiritual/mind realm, but then again it's very ambiguous the potential benefits of this one compared to the other safer and still strong blessings
>>96809905It's for getting more Insight, exploration and network without the danger of meeting in person, or figure out how to meet in the first place.
>>96810037>Implying I'm going to let my bloodline wander around so dick devourers have an easy way to get access to my kitAny of these 'descendants' of mine you see are merely lifelike marionettes, traps I set so I'll be warned of any devourcels coming for my secrets
>>96809905You could probably explore the Sea of Souls in a safer manner once you got strong enough
>>96810079>>96810094That's pretty neat
>>96810090I wouldn't eat your daughter. I would marry her and eat her in another way. Don't worry. O Grand SENSEI
If eating blood can let you get powers with dick devourer, do another type of fluids also let you? the seduction route is now stronger
>>96809997>In a fight, you should be the strongest 99% of the time within your team. If the enemy can defeat your allies and you, you die. A scenario where your weaker teammates are that much needed to have multiple lives to win, is very weird.That is a very weird take. Like why are you building a team with such vastly different abilities in members that losing a person doesn't meaningfully effect the over-all performance of the team. Are you imagining all fight are just two really powerful dudes with canon fodder for friends?>I don't know if its automatic, you spend RE and the method talks about "they can cycle their RE..." which I think makes it seem like a choice. But anyway. Let's say for the sake of the argument its automatic.>Freezing (also in time) attacks > regenerating, as you could still instantly die because of the attack. The time/ice shield is very good. Seventh Sense plus Ice method is better than passive regenerationWell at later stages the regeneration can bring one back from "almost total obliteration". I'm assuming usually almost total obliteration would render one unconscious. I'm pretty sure the part about cycle RE means they haven't run out of RE to spend. So I believe it's supposed to be some sort of automatic healing factor the burns RE.As for Seventh Sense, it says it's not precise and is for sensing "when significant events, items, or people are near" so I find it doubtful it can warn you of individual attacks in combat. It's good for knowing you are about to be ambushed, but it's not going to alert you to every attack.>Hax is more like very special abilities hard to counter in combat, like the time techniques.Ah, if that's what you mean by hax, then Heartwood's hax are it's life draining ability. Nasty stuff. I'd say those are a coin toss.>ye, but I like frosty moreThat's fine. I'm not saying Frost is bad. It's just not "better" then Heartwood, because all the Methods are roughly equally good.
The tree thousand worlds were promised to them long ago...
>>96810147the promised land
>>96810141>Dick devourer finally realizes he can devour dicks for power after being called a dick devourer 100 times
>>96810192Cute AND dumb will get her far.
>>96809667My build is Frost/Radiant/Verdant with a Primordial Bloodline to shore up this >>96809693 problem.Superspeed, slowing others, refracting light with ice for trickshots and traps, and reserves to last longer. Also regeneration just in case someone manages to actually hit me. I have the rest of the build ready but I don't feel like posting it.
You didn't earn those methods.You didn't earn that inheritance.If you're really all that, you'd win without handouts.
Frost builds are the strongest because they're faster and can freeze their opponents
>>96810287Shut up Charlie, you didn't earn shit either.
>>96810290fucker, not here too. I was there when these words were spammed in an aokiji vs yamato and boa
>>96810290It's never been more over
Nuh uh, I earned everything by being born better than you. Skill issue. Try killing yourself and then being born better if you can, LOSER~
>>96810327How do we beat her bros, I don't want to be raped by a bratty loli and forced to be her semen dispenser on Tuesdays.
>>96810290jobs to akashic ascension
>>96810342I pick Mondays
>>96810327Now I can't see Loser~ without thinking of the "loser we are going to space" cyoa, good cyoa btw
Sylen, where is the update? You promised.
>Begging redditors for updates
>>96810370Let him cook
>>96810327>tokI now know who posted this >>96810141
>>96804748I'm still aliveChugging along and chipping away at CYOAs It's hard balancing my other hobbies, work, and CYOAs But I'll have some vacation days, enough with the right staggering I can get 2 weeks off around Christmas and New Year Hopefully I can finish Delver v2 by then
>>96810370is that vampire D? is he ugly in the novels? (i have yet to read them)
>>96810478Good to hear it and looking forward to Delver V2
>>96810478I wish you luck, Ordion Anon. Thank you for your work, and for Delver v1 being so fun.
>>96804933ive been ellipsesposting before you born, boy
threadslave...?
>>96810570page 10
>>96810575I want a new thread and I want it now
>>96810605This is the last thread. It's all over.
Best secondary method for Living Forge or Machine Transcendence?
>>96810693Talismic is pretty good
>>96810693Fated Shot Doctrine
>>96810693All-Consuming Inferno Tablets for fuel.
>>96804748Title: The Sins-Eater>Methods: Verdant Heartwood Sheaves, Blood-Stained Vermillion Verses, Heavenly Celestial Scrolls>Blessings: Decentralized Organs, Warhound, Iron Will, Protagonist Aura, Seventh Sense, Perfect Conduit, Innovative, Peerless Prodigy, Communication Expert, Wise Elder>Treasures: Spirit Lantern, Golden Vessel, Miniature Pagoda, Omni-Compass, Extradimensional Library>Grand Inheritance: Karmic Alignment, Dharma Weapon, Heavenly Conquerer Foundation>Companions: Alice, Iska, Lyra>Events: Hive Queen, The Creeping Rot, Corrupted Zone, The Horde, Wandering Temple>Complications: Parasite, Fated Nemesis ("Twang"), Deviated Form, Incursion, Empathic, Minotaur's Lair, Courting Death, Hero's Journey, Frog In A WellA monster hunter not afraid to fight fire with fire. Be it dangerously mutated beasts, Fallen cultivators or simply greedy tyrants their righteous deaths will fuel my power. That's not to say I won't try to resolve things peacefully if possible, but I will do my best to reduce the amount of dangers and evils where ever I go.
>>96810693>fated shot doctrineyou could integrate guns to your body>verdant heartwood sheavesthis one kind of synergizes well with any method for the regeneration and extra RE reserves>eternal frostcould help you cooldown whatever machine you graft into yourself without risk of overheating>tempestuous rifts codexmostly for the lightning affinity to power the machinery>akashic ascension recordssharpened mind means better understanding and ideas for machineryThe way I see it verdant and fated shot would synergize the best, but the other ones are not bad choices either
Would anons get mad if I post my OC in the middle of their wuxia craze?
>>96810796no, but I would until tomorrow.
>>96810796YES, I FUCKING HATE cyoas, if I see one other cyoa in MY threat I will find and kill that anon
>>96810807Okay. I shall do that
>>96810796You are free to post it, but I would recommend waiting a few days for the hype to die down if you don't want it to fight for the spotlight and potentially be ignored.
>>96810817I am afraid of that. I saw it happened before with entropist, magi case, and OR update
>>96810693For machine most other body methods are sort of unnecessary unless you have something specific in mind. So for energy methods you have to consider that tech could likely replicate a lot of the abilities such as flamethrowers vs inferno tablets, lasers vs prismatic, or even potentially time effects vs frost. With that in mind I feel heart severing sutras emphasis on emotions could be really useful as that is not something tech can do. The two weapon methods (Fated Shot and Sword Sermon) also work in a way that would be complementary to the tech equivalent instead of redundant (i.e sermon would let you read the tempo of battle in addition to predictive algorithms, and Fated could stack with advanced targeting).
>>96810832>>96810832>>96810832>>96810832NEW THREAD, GO HOG WILD>>96810822Don't be afraid, anon. Let your work stand on its merits
>>96810824>flamethrowers is inferno tabletsReadlet
https://imgchest.com/p/ej7mn6lmayd>>96810822Any examples? I didn't care for Entropist or Magi Case and left for a while, but I'd love to check for any hidden gems I might've missed.
>>96810843Yeah machine is better
>>96810816You shall do what? He didn't say anything, he said he "would" without an action.
>>96810843>using machine to create a flamethrower for a xianxia super napalm equivalentmagical materials can lead to magical equipment
>>96810796Please do, the craze is because of shitposting, the serious discussion can continue alongside other cyoas. Never let the presence of other OC stop you from posting.
>>96810890I'd assume that he'll post his OC tomorrow, or whenever the CC discussion dies down.>>96810796>Would anons get mad if...>no, but I would until tomorrow
>>96810906>whenever the CC discussion dies downIt already degraded into meaningless shitposting a long time ago, why keep it going when we have a slight chance something good could be taked about?
>>96810891Yea I wasn't saying it would be easy or even a true equivalent but you want an energy method that complements machine trancendance's versatility and isn't semi redundant.
>>96809408You pick them up, and you throw them into space, you also throw something else at them to circularize their orbit.
>>96810919Not all of it is
>>96804748SLOP
>>96810796No, the craze endedPeople are bored and shitposting
