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Previous: >>96850745

I'd Rather Be Fishing edition

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com/
https://www.pdhrec.com/

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>tq
What's your jankiest deck? Why do you like playing it?
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>>96857928
>What's your jankiest deck? Why do you like playing it?
>look through all of my decks
>used to be like 60% jank
>currently not a single janky deck assembled
oh fug, time to put doublestrike double tokens back together
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Stop putting UB in OPs
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Alt TQ
Post a song you're listening to, other anons guess what you're brewing.

I'll go first
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RirxC7uwUSw
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>>96857961
>>96857970
You had hours to bake with whatever image/tq you wanted once we went 500+. Stop crying if you're not going to put in the minimum effort to create a new thread.
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>>96857961
That is colorless, not UB
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>>96857961
>Thread was sitting on page 10 for 4 hours
>Anon complains when the new OP is something he doesn't like
I hate UB slop too, but this is an entirely self made issue
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>>96857928
>What's your jankiest deck?

My Azlask the swelling scourge deck. Its 5 color eldrazi either running the table over, or getting ran over, there is no in between.
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>>96857985
>>96858009
Some of us have work. EBT runs out next month btw
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>>96858033
It takes like 30 seconds to make a thread, just go to the shitter and make one
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>>96858033
pay somebody to post new bakes then
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>>96858039
>literally can't even conceptualize work that would impede using a phone
>>96858049
I already do, I pay my taxes.
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>>96858058
>letting the government handle things
this is why you get UB bakes
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> i dont have the time to bake
> but i will show up immediately and complain
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Sorry, its not my fault you didn't choose to save your lands. No its not MLD
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This commander has tantalized me for at least a year now. I want to go heavy on flash-control tribal with some top deck manipulation (brainstorm, brainstone, brain geyer) and maybe a few miracles. But the deck is not only mana-starved, creating friction between rocks vs. flash cards. It also needs a wincon amidst all your flashy guys.

That, and a few of the flash guys are inexplicably expensive.
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>>96858087
Yes, see when work ends, people go home. And when this person got home, they opened 4chan and found a new thread had been mad less than 10 mins before they got home.

I appreciate that sounds very coincidental to someone who never leaves the house.
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>>96858095
>it's only MLD if you're unlucky
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>TQ
My jankiest deck is my Falco Spara deck it works the way it was intended but I really need Together Forever to be on board for it to really go off with the Summons
>>96857970
>Alt TQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE_rK8PX83Q
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You know, it's funny.
>Online sentiment regarding hybrid change starts out negative
>Content creators start making videos on "muh color pie I can see the broccoli future staples"
>Sentiment has now completely shifted to be in favor of hybrid change
Imagine articulating your argument so poorly it actually convinces people already on your side to shift to the opposite stance.
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>shuffling cards in hand nervously
>bending cards at 90 degrees to flick it on board at mach 2
why?
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>>96858163
or maybe content creators are less important than they think they are?
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>>96858145
>song
You're brewing a fucking suicide note.
That or some FF slop commander. My guess is Y'Shtola or Terra
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>>96858179
it's actually Karador
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>>96858095
reminder that gavin defines MLD as "regularly" destroying/messing up mana of/tapping down four or more lands for each player
so technically keldon firebombers, razia's purification, and planetary bombardment isn't MLD because they're not 100% guaranteed to blow up four lands lol
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>>96858194
hilariously wildfire is anathema to gavin
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>>96858163
I haven't seen a sentiment shift. Before this only a vocal minority wanted hybrid card rules changed. This is entirely controlled opposition because WotC has already made their decision: Lorwyn is coming, therefore hybrid cards must be made playable in more decks to sell more packs.
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>>96858110
>Average workday is 9-5
>Throod was posted at 10 est
You are either eastern European, Turkish, central African, or a jew, none of which are great prospects
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I've been slowly working on a deck that pays homage to my favorite era of modern. Roughly 2012-Khans, maybe a little later. Trying to keep the deck away from m15 borders if possible.
https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/modern-edh-10/
Is there any glaring omissions, I'm doing this mostly from memory.
>garth as the commander
I didn't seem any other good option. I'd be open to suggestions. I also have given some thought to dropping down to 4c by removing black.
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>>96858110
>implying a bunch of us don't have tg open on the second monitor at work
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>>96858236
oh shit I forgot to add the tron package I was working on brb
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>>96858163
I think it's moreso basically every anti-hybrid argument falls apart when you think about it for more than 5 minutes because every "problem" it would introduce already exists in larger capacity elsewhere.
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I'm trying to decide if Sigarda's Aid is overkill for my light-4 deck, or if it's necessary to keep a boros deck competitive with other 4s
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Coming soon btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkQE5wuBFeY
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>>96858279
This wouldn't surprise me. Their stated approach to getting in more women is to collab with properties that predominantly women enjoy.
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>>96858163
Literally none of the dissents understood what it meant to be a hybrid card when the original Ravnica block as well as Shadowmoor/Eventide released. They were advertised as cards you could splice into a deck you couldn't otherwise and were meant to be color bleeds, albeit toned down.
The whole impending rules change isnt anything groundbreaking when its achieving its intended goal. Also, people are freaking out about 2 hybrid cards (Waves of Aggression and Manamorphose) potentially being broken when they weren't breaking that ground to begin with and aren't staples/must go in every deck.
The biggest shake up I see with this change are the companions, which wouldn't surprise me since its MaRo's child and would do anything to give them more of a spotlight again.
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>>96858266
Multiple anons proved your disingenuous ass wrong multiple times over.

You are a shill. You are a paid WotC employee and/or ai programmed to shitpost and trivialize every argument made against hybrid mana because everyone with half a brain knows the damage this will do to the format and that is a move made by pure, unadulterated greed because Magic is quite literally the only thing keeping Hasbro afloat with a 65% of earnings.

Fuck you you rat fuck.
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>>96858304
>Durrr its no big deal cause its just Waves of Aggression/Manamorphoe so whats the big deal?

The big deal is future cards they have in the pipeline, dumbass.
If the hybrid rules take effect we may as well do away with the color identity in EDH altogether.
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>>96858289
>properties that women enjoy
if wotc was smart they would get gacha games as UB
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>>96858289
They floated the idea of romantasy and if they printed a monster-fucker set I'd unironically buy it
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>>96858316
>>96858332
Uh-oh! Melty!
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>>96858365
>this but make the characters FAT
pass
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>>96858332
Waves of Aggression is actually a big deal. There's a shitload of white-splash decks that wouldn't mind a recurrable extra combat.
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>>96858289
>Carrie Bradshaw, the Kid (1BRU)
>If you control 5 or more New York cards, merge those cards into a creature called "The City". It gains the ability "Sacrifice a Samantha, Charlotte, and Miranda you control; the next time WotC would release a non-New York set, it releases a New York set instead."
>You may return Hot Dog Carts and Bagel and Schmears to the battlefield from your graveyard at any time.
>Partner with Mr. Big
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>>96858163
No one has ever had their mind changed by online debates lmao
>>96858332
The big deal is changing a core rule. Power or broken or whatever are all red herrings. Should we change a rule to align the game with wotcs principles or keep our own
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>>96858394
They don't care about the boomer normie women, anon.
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>>96858412
>or keep our own
no one is removing rule zero you retard
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>>96858423
Yet they promote Rachel Weeks, and that Olivia Whatshername?
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>>96857928
>TQ
Korlash, Heir to Blackblade
The goal is to Grandeur out a bunch of swamps and then hit people with the big corrupts. It's very bad, since so much of the deck needs to set up actually performing Grandeur with Korlash, it doesn't have all that much removal or stuff outside of doing the meme of activating Grandeur in edh. But it's funny, at least.
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I own the oilslick version of this but proliferate alone is boring slop. Anyone got any ideas for a "counter removal matters" sort of deck?
The obvious synergies I see are cards like
>The Thing In the Ice
>Ambling Stormshell
>FF summon creatures
and then Liquimetal Torque / Liquimetal Coating / Encroaching Mycosynth to fiddle around with sagas

Also, is this how the rule works for sagas?
>saga gets its final counter
>ability put on the stack
>turn it into an artifact via coating
>tekuthal slurps the counters away
>final ability to resolves, but because it no longer has the requisite counters it is NOT sacrificed and stays on-board
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>No, this rule change will do it! I swear! Don't do it! People won't immediately forget about it like they always have!
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>>96858425
Irrelevant
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>>96858452
anon, these are all things that come up on a regular basis except anus mana.
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>>96858451
Correct.

704.5s If the number of lore counters on a Saga permanent is greater than or equal to its final chapter number and it isn’t the source of a chapter ability that has triggered but not yet left the stack, that Saga’s controller sacrifices it. See rule 715, “Saga Cards.”
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>>96858304
The only thing that matters is the color of the card. The color is intrinsic to its color identity. Hybrid cards are both colors, therefore both are part of its color identity. There's no argument, no debate.
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>Post decklist I'm slowly building
>That deck is fucking stupid, why do you have thassas, why do you have arcane bombardment and a wizards wand and a spellbook
>stop netdecking idiot


why can't I just add silly wizard shit but still have a minds desire/magus loop for thassas as a combo off finisher?

https://moxfield.com/decks/fDdYAKNEG02izfpJ-M8N_Q
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>>96858488
Interesting. So, in theory with a saga artifact and Tekuthal with a proliferate source you could play jump rope.
>saga with 1 counter
>double proliferate to 3
>trigger, 3rd chapter on the stack
>slurp 2 counters plus one off another permanent
>resolve final chapter, back down to one
>proliferate again

Also, in this scenario would Tekuthal's double proliferate trigger both chapters of a saga in the process? Or just one because proliferate, proliferate again is the resolution of a single effect before SBAs are checked?
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>>96857928
>What's your jankiest deck? Why do you like playing it?
i always felt this was janky as fuck because it is a mash of a bunch of creatures that don't synergize well and don't have a ton of support. but it works and probably has the highest winrate of my decks somehow. Tends to win from overwhelming advantage from historic synergy, and then tribal buffing. And getting something like Morophon or Sixth Doctor on turn 2/3 can be a big issue for the table.

Decks massive weakness is flying. I don't really see a way to patch that up. Time Lords don't fly. And yes, this is my favorite deck.
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>>96858519
>discussing decks here
lmao I'll always remember the time I asked for assistance in a weird Stasuki token/saga deck I was trying. Thread went apeshit because I wasn't just netdecking a standard Satsuki saga deck off EDHRec. I ended up building it and it worked well. But sagas are miserable to play as a deck type so I got rid of it.
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>>96858519
>im acting like a dumb gay retard
>why do people keep calling me that
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>>96857961
>WAAAAAH THE OP ISN'T TO MY STANDARDS
Then do it yourself. You retards always wait until like page 10 so you have plenty of time
You're a lazy fuck and you don't get to whine when that laziness causes bad things to happen.
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>>96858578
>'act like a retard'
>I want to make a wizard deck
>wow no cyc rift demonitc tutor combo?
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>>96858316
how is that card worse than say this?
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>>96858544
The ruling is:

>Each symbol on the left of a Saga's text box represents a chapter ability. A chapter ability is a triggered ability that triggers when a lore counter that is put on the Saga causes the number of lore counters on the Saga to become equal to or greater than the ability's chapter number. Chapter abilities are put onto the stack and may be responded to.

And

>If multiple chapter abilities trigger at the same time, their controller puts them on the stack in any order. If any of them require targets, those targets are chosen as you put the abilities on the stack, before any of those abilities resolve.

In other words, yes, if you're on chapter 1 and proliferate twice, chapters 2 and 3 will trigger.
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Any Polyfags around here?
i wanna rebuild my token focused Codie deck a bit and load it up with some Huge Beaters, what would be a desireable amount of big boys in the list?
would 10 be too excessive?
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>>96858171
Ive never understood why people do it either, same with dragging the card you drew across the table as you put it in hand. I think people are just copying others when they do it
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>>96858575
From that thread btw
>not that anon but you asked the most braindead question ever. satsuki's entire thing is about interacting with sagas and you are asking how to build her besides sagas? you ask retarded questions, obviously you will get aggressive responses rightfully calling you a retard. so sorry for you and your fragile, retarded self.
Seems like a perfectly reasonable response
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>>96858589
Its more about thassa's orcale, frankly.
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>>96858441
I hate to break it to you, but Rachel is 33 and Olivia is 36. Aged like milk, but both were too young for Sex and the City
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kinda wanted to build a Jin Sakai deck with all the bulk samurai I have laying around, but then I realized that shit doesn't completely work
since jin isn't for creatures "attacking alone" but instead "attacking a player alone"
he'd be more of a ninja deck
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>>96858625
>can't read
Many such cases
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>>96858634
Didn’t it air in like 2005? So Rachel was 12 and Olivia was 15. They probably saw it
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>>96858619
i can get behind dragging it, i keep my fingernails short and sometimes these stupid cards keep slipping off
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>>96857928
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WQkx4yW1Oc
When the game goes on for 6 hours, and the 7th field wipe happened, and its 3am.
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>>96858625
It is still astonishing to me this thread is unaware how many sagas create tokens and how Satsuki can ensure a saga repeatedly hits that to create tokens. This entire post incorrectly states "besides sagas" when the original deck and question involved saga based token creators.

You were and still are retarded.
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>>96858661
98, and on HBO only
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>>96857928
>tq

He's just the wincon after I animate everyone's lands and drop a wrath.
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>>96858689
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Since we're talking about sagas, is this the most kino of them all? Maybe Elspeth Conquers Death ties
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>>96858519
Damn, that reminds me I gotta start taking extended arts out of my decks, the deck seems like it functions alright but looks like shit.
Personally I'd drop the thoracle for labman and play it in b3.
Don't be surprised if people hate on you for playing a game winning piece that is difficult to interact with outside of blue.
>inb4 put torpor orb in ever deck
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What cards utterly take your friends by surprise into utter despair?
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Who'd actually want this?
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>>96858742
could be okay with something like this to get a bit more ramp?
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>>96858658
>>96858678
damn I literally can't read AND had no idea so many sagas made tokens, my bad.
ya got that token saga decklist? Surely you finished it by now.
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>>96858719
>take your friends by surprise into utter despair?
we've been playing for 10 years, a response like that hasn't happened in probably 8 years.
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>>96858771
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zltQQVM55A4
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>>96858742
any food deck that wants to sacrifice multiple foods at once
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>>96858786
I gotta be honest, i was shocked how playing against this deck in b4 was completely fine.
idk about b3 but I'm sure it caused some issues.
I can't imagine what they were smoking when they took it off the GC list.
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>>96858742
funny meme card featuring Avatar: :D
funny meme card featuring Spider-Man: D:<
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>>96858742
I fucking hate ub
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>>96858799
i frequently see bracket 2 decks beat bracket 4 decks.
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>>96858742
anything basic heavy that can sacrifice him or multiple foods at once to ensure you get more value rather than sending him to the bottom of the deck
also decent combat trick in limited/low gas games where he blocks and you sac a food before damage to mitigate 4+ damage while getting a land
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>>96858810
>Azula
>not red
????????????
>generic theft shit
even worse
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>>96858810
I see we are having the same issue where the series doesn't have enough characters so we get 8 versions of the same character.
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>>96858819
fire nation is predominantly black despite firebending making (identity free) red mana
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>>96858799
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRVj8yU_zdo
MARTIAL ARTS LANGUAGE COMMENCES..
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>>96858807
If you use the GC list as the only criteria I could maybe see that, but that's just not how they are setup.
in the last 9 mo I've only seen a b2 deck win in a pod with a b4 deck once and it was due to an inevitable betrayal pulling out a gin gitaxis that got out of hand.
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>>96858857
oh I see that's part of why they're making the change, so they can print cards like that Iroh which can then go in 40% of decks instead of 5%
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>>96858033
>>96858058
Whenever I have to bake it takes literally 1 minute using my phone. I've baked from the shitter. If you have the time to post and reply to every (You) you get on the thread you have time to make a thread you fuckin' pissbaby dork.
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>>96858863
I see it constantly. Dunno what to tell you. Brackets are not needed for this reason. 4 is just standard old EDH.
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>>96858865
the cub is better
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>>96858863
Reminder Jin Gitaxis (all of them) are bracket 2 cards. So he won by pulling a bracket 2 card out of the hand with his bracket 2 cards.
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>>96858882
How many Aangs are we at? Like 8?
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>>96858289
The only women playing MtG got dicks. They'd be much better off making Stephen Universe or Rick and Morty or other troon UBs than trying to bring in millennial women.
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>>96858869
There are plenty of jobs where you can't just fuck off to the shitter and where fucking around with your phone can lead to death.
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>>96858887
>prowess that gives free mana
jesus...
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>>96858443
wotc will update grandeur so that you can have 7 copies in edh, trust
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>>96858887
>that firebending student
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>>96858899
Rachel weeks and Voxy have dicks?
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>>96858865
>nonlegendary kinnan
Oh dear
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>>96858880
yes. The thing is he had the spell on suspend for 3 turns, then found a card he didn't know was in the deck then it had to survive a whole rotation in order and the discard portion gets bricked by any no-max hand size card

It's not that it was a strong setup, it was more that it was unlikely way to win.
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>>96858887
standred is never ending
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>>96858916
I wish Voxy did. She looks like she'd have a hog
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>>96858906
Whelp. Urza just got usurped as the best mono U commander
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>>96858921
TRIP
ON
NOW
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>>96858810
>>96858819
>>96858837
>>96858840
But all the azulas produce red mana, wouldn't she also be red by default due to that?
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>>96858925
You can't run this as a commander though? Kuruk is the backside.
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>>96858934
Nope
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>>96858938
wotc is in charge, they will make sagas like vehicles.
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>>96858934
rules text has no color identity, extort doesn't make cards orzhov
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>>96858906
Lorewise this makes no sense. Kuruk had turbo spirit cancer that made him have very little time left to live. No drawbacks is just out of character
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>>96858934
no, because its in the rules text. the one exception where mana symbol does not count.
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>>96858949
The front isn't legendary though.
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>>96858925
this isn't even good
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>>96858799
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eehv-7lVK_g
did he use this? if not you dont know full power beyond the limits.
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>>96858954
Up to 4 Sokka now. Fuck, every character is going to have 5+ cards
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>>96858958
I don't think you understand what
>wotc is in charge
means
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>>96858958
"Going forward mdf and transform cards with legendary creatures on the backside can be played as your commander. The card functions the same in the command zone, casting order, timing, ect."
Wow see how easy that is
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>>96858975
How much cash you want to bet on this not happening? Got a paypal?
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my dick demands i build fire lord azula
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>>96858970
as much as spiderman sucked ass it's really funny that it completely mogs this batch of reprints and like 90% of the FF ones by not being recycled screenshots or concept art
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>>96858970
straight up custom proxy energy.
I swear I have seen the art they used for heroic intervention as a proxy in some shitter's deck before
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>>96858979
>Got a paypal?
No, I'm antisemitic
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>>96858946
>>96858950
>>96858955
Weird then. so they made it so the first two azulas can't produce red mana o if she's a commander?
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>>96858973
Still not happening and you can't say "WOW NEW BEST BLUE COMMANDER" stating some fucking made up rule in your head is coming. You misread the card and are trying to defend. Take the L.
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They're really trying to make Prowess work without understanding why it fundamentally sucks in Commander.

>>96858970
>just take a screenshot of the show/video game and slap it on a card
Lazy and lame.
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>obvious and disticnt "4 colors" universe
>"lets shoehorn this into our 5 color system"
dead on arrival, this is so fucking desperate
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>>96858987
they produce red mana but red isnt in their color identity.
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>>96858979
Anon, you're betting like a retard. WotC wants to maximize player engagement with their products. I give it one year before they announce a reprinting of planeswalkers that can now be commanders
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>>96858987
She still produces red mana but you can't use cards with red pips just because she does. If you have cards with sunburst style effects they will still count the red
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>>96858991
yeah I didn't say that though, that was a different guy.
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>>96858970
>>96858983
>>96858985
These cards showcase WotC's complete laziness and lack of interest in making a cool looking product. Long gone are the days of them making stuff like the lottery lands and artifacts from BfZ and Kaladesh.
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>>96858981
fucking hell man, have some self control.
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>>96858993
Those are the Episode cards. One screenshot from each episode on a reprint.
Could be kino if they have the balls to reprint something good.
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>>96858970
It is amazing how hard the Spider-Man heroic intervention mogs the Avatar one
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>>96859024
>Could be kino
kys
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>>96859032
both are trash to be honest with you my friend
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>>96859000
>>96859003
What? I could swear you weren't allowed to produce mana of colors not featured in your commander's main colors. Did they change it or I'm just wrong?
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>>96859024
Screenshots make for bad still art. Art meant for movement shouldn't be used as card art.
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>a whole bunch of hideous new cards enter the format
hopefully none of them are too broken.
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>>96859037
Imma be honest. There isn't a heroic intervention printing with good art.
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>>96859037
>>96859032
This. It's just a different level of stank. Also, lots of spiderman art is from covers and comic panels, so they are meant to be "stand alone" visually. A random screenshot from an animated show isn't nowhere nearly as fitting for a card art. They couldn't even bother to get the show's artbook and rip some of the concept art for the cards?
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>>96859042
you can use any mana you can make what are you smoking
How do you think stealing cards and playing them works if they have activated activities outside your commander colors?
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>>96859051
Wrong
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>>96859059
Cards speciffy that you can use any color of mana when playing cards you steal from opponents, like azula right there. "Mana of any type can be spent to cast those spells"

That's the whole point of that ruling line so you can play cards from any other color with your own mana.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X34igEEtrac
Are people really gonna buy all this slop for the whole year?
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>>96859070
Anon try actually reading my post
why do you think fellwar stone and exotic orchard are printed in almost every precon?
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"Hybrid mana will erode the color pie" mfs when I post the monoR fight spell.
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>>96859071
I haven't bought a single new card since brothers war, anon. I'm sitting out the UB era of this game.
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>>96858970
>screenshots
the lowest form of faggotry
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>>96859083
Because they are easy way to increase your mana options in 3+ color decks in a table with 3 other people? You are bound to have one color you can use amongst your opponents colors.
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>>96859067
>ugly as shit borderless slop
>aetrith version not available in a standard printing
it hurts
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>>96858807
>i frequently see bracket 2 decks beat bracket 4 decks.
>the 2025 standard vivi deck will curbstomp a fallen empires block constructed legacy deck? legacy decks must be shit then!! fuck formats!!
kek
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>>96859098
The point is that you can still use them even if no one is playing your colors. They also do not produce colorless mana
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>>96859084
Nigga are you retarded
https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=name&q=oracle%3AFight+color%3DR+%28game%3Apaper%29
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>>96859099
That's a really action focused effect for an art where both are just hanging around. Hope they have an alt art with them both in fighting gear, at least.
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>>96859113
Fun fact: This can go in monoB.
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>>96859085
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yw74taLtGRw
Good.
Only buy old cards.
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>>96859105
>these are the commander bundle promos
fuck. i want my money back.
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>>96858810
>durrrrr grixis is da ebil villain colors!!!!!
Azula is so fucking Mardu it hurts. What’s the point of making UB slop if you don’t even represent characters right?
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>>96858970
>>96859032
niice. mystic remora finally gonna be pennies
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>>96859120
AIEEEEE I CAN SEE THE FIRE ON MY SKELETON CARD!!! THIS IS WORSE THAN EXTORT!!!
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>>96859125
genuinely what did you expect
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I gotta get the slop for my axonil deck bros
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>>96859128
It's just an excuse so her deck can include all the different versions of the character in it, and there's already a dimir one.
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>>96859128
Azula isn't Mardu at all as a character. Zuko is Mardu.
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>>96858970
>black avatar
had to be somewhere didnt it
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>havent bought a UB card yet
>have to actively keep avatar spoilers away from wife otherwise she will 100% buy this garbage
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>>96859119
what are they gonna call the top right card? piss tower?
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>>96859164
it's gonna be Phyrexian Tower
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>>96859084
Reds fight spells are (usually) just prohibitively expensive, but they have gotten them in "recent" sets
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lands equals experience counter
lol
lmao even
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>>96859183
so will this fag replace Go-Shintai as the goto Shrine commander?
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>>96859183
this is your wubrg shrine commander for the night
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>>96858981
Is the Azula on the left mono B or does she identify as Rakdos?
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>>96859188
>exp counters
Dear Lord...
I THOUGHT THEY LEARNED
AHHHHHHH!
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>>96859196
mono black, dimir and grixis
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>>96858916
Amy the Amazonian does
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>>96859188
>every single toph card is a design oversight
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZPtFNTpCzk
So When's the tenchi muyo commander sets coming out?
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>>96859191
>>96859194
>searches your library for a shrine
>puts it onto battlefield for free
I would be surprised if it doesn't replace Life's Origin
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>>96859188
>>96859199
At least she's not in the usual experience counter coloros (White, Black, Red) so you'll have to either get the eldrazi experience counters guy to use her in the 99 or commit to only her as the commander.
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>>96859188
There's absolutely no chance this becomes problematic, right?
Right...?
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>>96858954
Menace is jeskai now?
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>>96859216
He's gonna be in most peoples decks guaranteed, don't know about him outright replacing Life's Origin though
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>make a deck
>too much of a pussy to go to my lgs and play commander with strangers
>go home instead
I should kill myself
commanders for this feel?
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>>96859085
same but Guilds of Rav
>tfw have a big enough collection that I am still putting new decks together
turns out you dont actually need to consuuuuume
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>>96859183
>Mono colored but actually 5c slop
>Fucking shrines
>Rips said shrines directly to battlefield as an ETB
They couldn't have made me hate him more if they tried
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>>96859219
or you just play her under the naya toph that makes all artifacts lands and abuse the white/red exp cards
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>>96859219
Meren
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>>96859236
Can I see your list?
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>>96859240
anon the set itself is also going to have more shrines
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>>96859232
I think being able to search for a shrine is better than go-shintai's effects, that's why I imagine he would replace life's origin
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>>96859151
You are a hateful, evil husband. You don't deserve your wife.
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>>96859257
Sure
https://archidekt.com/decks/16937217/ashnod_grixis
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>>96857928
Is this fishing pole the first instance of colorless steal from top of deck? Always seemed like a red and black thing. Don't remember seeing it as an option much outside of that. Outside of maybe that couple of blue cards that just let you search an opponents deck for a creature.
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>>96859259
yeah you're right he's most likely gonna replace him
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>>96859144
Azula wants to rule, she believes in order. That is white
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>>96859151
>i don't want my wife to enjoy mtg
husband of the year lol
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>>96859272
Pretty neat budget deck. nice.
I gotta start making budget decks again
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>>96859142
>>96858906
>spirits that only block spirits
Danny Phantom set is coming
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>>96859281
>she believes in order
She believes in might makes right hierarchy, order is just a byproduct of her being the strongest
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>>96859286
>enjoy mtg
Anon, Avatar isnt mtg
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>>96859232
any repeatable blink/bounce effect lets you cheat out every shrine in the deck, including go-shintai, token effect is inherently stronger too
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>>96859303
I'm sorry guys, I actually like this
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>>96859296
a secret lair or commander deck after the ghostbusters set that duskmourne set up sure
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>>96859311
me too, shame its ub
i'd love more big dumb battlecruiser commanders
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>>96859307
yeah I didn't think about blinking him when I said that but now I think he's 100% gonna replace him I see no reason to not run him as the commander for shrines
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>>96859281
grixis needs its obligatory villain and azula is it
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>>96859306
>avatar isn't mtg
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>>96859273
It started as a UW mechanic actually.
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>>96859151
Based
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>>96859331
for the first time in my life, someone posted a basedjack that is exactly me right now
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>>96857928
>TQ
Probably my Orvar list. It's whole game plan is making a bunch of copies of mana stuff like rocks or lands to ramp into things like Caged Sun or Heraldic Banner that give Orvar and the couple of creatures I've copied buffs to overwhelm through combat damage. Thighs like Merfolk Sovereign giving him unblockable and Thrumming Hivepool giving him haste, double strike, and other keywords. Sometimes the deck is just targeting my things for small advantage for most of the game, and sometimes it explodes into an army of animated Caged Suns. It's fun.
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>>96859188
>when it is EXILED return it to the battlefield tapped
absolute niggermode design
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>>96859056
Not bad. Similar energy to that one 1UU Djinni that I cant think of the name of but draw a card on death is decent.
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>>96859303
Damnit I actually like the borderless art on this one
It's so fucking over
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>>96859330
So she's dimir but adds red. That's sort of interesting. I'm guessing it's like extort where the color is just reminder text and not influencing her color identity, right?
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What IP would avoid the 60% legendary creatures/5 different versions of the same character problem UBs all seem to have the easiest?
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>>96859311
>>96859362
Linkin Park starts playing the background.
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>>96859362
>fuck borderless cards
I knew I wasn't alone here
ILAYAKYWMN
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>>96859362
>all that shit for 6 mana
FIREbending is here
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>>96859099
Poor Toph. Alone again.
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>>96859368
Correct, reminder text (generally anything italicized) doesn't affect identity
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>>96859084
When creatures fight is that counted as combat damage?
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>>96859383
no but shit like lifelink/deathtouch will still work
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>>96859383
No, combat damage is only dealt as a result of attacking or blocking
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>>96858970
I at least hope the Dark Depths comes with an Aang avatar token.
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The idea of creatures/cards getting extra bonuses for having floating mana seems really cool
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>>96859146
underrated
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>>96859377
>immediately refunds 4 of the mana

Knew they would push this set.
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>>96859368
yes.
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>>96858970
>cruel tutor getting a reprint after 28 years
>art sucks so it'll be cheap as fuck
Nice
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>>96859419
>regular art is the most sexo version
thank fuck
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>>96859067
>APPROVED UB!
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>>96859411
I am genuinely curious how many of these cards got roided up after spiderflop
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>>96859369
>60% legendary creatures
None. The Legendary creatures overdose is the whole appeal of UB as far as WotC is concerned

>5 different versions of the same characters
Maybe something with tons of characters like Game of Thrones, but those IPs are few and far in-between. Marvel is a good pick for variety, but the WotC team is a bunch of normies that probably never read a full arc to completion, so we'd still get tons of overlap if the spider-man set is any indication.
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>>96858970
This reminds me of old licensed 00's card games where they just used screenshots for the cards. And then when they ran out of episodes they just sunsetted the game because they sure as fuck weren't paying for artists to continue.
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>>96859428
>regular art skyrockets in single card pricing compared to special versions
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Can we please get more based approved UB like this?
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>>96859450
fuck off wotc
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>>96859362
So what exactly makes this guy equal to a God inavatar lore and why couldn't he kill the avatar if he was basically a God?
His stats beat out omnipotent characters from other UBs
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>>96859369
unironically monster collector shit, an SMT focused set would have like 30 legends at best
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>>96859450
do more anime UB wotc
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>>96859140
Roku is going to be an amazing mana dump in anything red. Can't wait.
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>>96859463
>decide to not be bitchy and angry about one specific UB set
>"WHY DO YOU KEEP SAYING WE APPROVE!?"
Because you don't treat each UB set as unacceptable and instead accept them if they are of your prefered IP. I dislike your hypocrisy and would prefer if you were honest about it.
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>>96859465
the power of friendship
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>>96859419
Unfortunately I also fuck with this battle pose art
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>>96859475
>hypocrisy
There is no such thing as approved UB, dumbfuck.
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>>96859478
So just WOTC being bad at stat lines actually fitting a character.
He should be a fucking 4/4.
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>>96859475
>see thing I like
>like it
>see thing i dont like
>dont like it
This isn't hypocritical, you're just a mongoloid
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>>96859475
spiderman isn't an "unapproved IP", the set is just dogshit at representing both it and as a product
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>>96859428
>>96859442
keked
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>>96859428
Too bad the card is boring and the art doesn't fit MTG.
>Izzet copy shit but also you get black cause commander
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>>96859465
roided up by the comet
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>>96859333
Did it? Guess I'm off then. Feels like it has been more red black now a days.
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>>96859490
>unapproved IP
>completely different genre of fantasy
>aesthetic clash
>takes place mostly in NYC
yeah, it's unapproved because it is as far from magic as you can get
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>>96859490
spiderman is extremely cringe millenial basedslop
just like avatar, in fact
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>>96859500
Which probably shouldn't put him as stronger than Captain Universe.
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>>96859497
>grixis can't do izzet things because uhh
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>>96859465
>So what exactly makes this guy equal to a God inavatar lore
Sozins comet cranked his already retarded level of fire ending to 100
>why couldn't he kill the avatar if he was basically a God
Because the avatar is actually God (technically Jesus but whatever)
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>>96859369
Warhammer already avoided it.
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>>96859428
please tell me that I cant pull borderless variants from play boosters. i would be beyond mad in this case.
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>>96859510
>Captain Universe
you mean cosmic spider? the guy who jobs the second he shows up?
Spiderman is also generally a pretty low power setting
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>>96859353
>>96859188
>MaRo forbid the landfall player has to take a risk
11 years later and picrel still remains the supreme and patrician choice for Lands in Green
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>>96859430
Correct
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>>96859524
He doesn't job to random Humans powered up by some shit that exists in the googols in space. There are trillions of comets in the universe.
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>>
In case you havent.
buy your copy now if you plan on building a firebend deck.
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>>96859515
you can but they're less likely to pop up
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the spiderman set feels like the biggest flop
even the fucking TMNT set has more potential and isn't just Legendary Creature - Spider Human Hero slop
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>>96859369
The legendary creature flood predates UB and is a conscious design decision by wotc to sell more cards to commander players who otherwise wouldn't be interested in 99.9% of new sets.
It's not a matter of the number of prominent characters in the work, it's wotc being faggots as per usual.
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>>96859540
I have no interest in using any of this UB shit and I find the art fits worse than even spider-man
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>>96859540
But your copy of what?
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>>96859188
this isn't even good
>i can make a land into a creature with no keywords
>it gets removed
>it comes back tapped
>get another counter
oh and let's not forget you can't even be using the land to attack o nthe same turn, this card is awful
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>>96859236
>commanders for this feel?
Norin the wary
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>>96859540
did you drop this?
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>>96859545
turtles are only going to get a pass if they actually have non-new york cards
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>>96859551
im smart
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>>96859554
>card literally says when you play the game, trigger trigger trigger trigger trigger exileproof trigger
>uhh actually this card doesn't do anything and you can't even attack with the 6 +1/+1 counters that can be moved around or translated directly into draw power even just within monogreen
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>equipment slop
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>>96859484
Ozai should definitely not be a 4/4. Base Ozai is one of the strongest benders on the planet, Sozin's Comet Ozai is the strongest non-Avatar bender on the planet. Easily capable of nuking entire towns
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>>96859183
> pronouns are WU/BRG and you will respect my color identity
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>>96859592
who?
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>>96859564
Ah I had a feeling. Don't think she'll go up that high though. We're going back to Lorwyn soon anyway. Besides, we got Electro in the recent set too.
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Today I get to work and
>avatar has made mtg look like shit
>windows updated their icons to make them look like knockoff apple icons
I now believe in enshitification.
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>>96859593
bRAAAAAAAAAAAAP hehe
me after tacobell haha
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>>96859599
>mixing Avatar with Spiderturds in spandexes
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>>96859605
Thank you anon. The new Teams icon is beyond dogshit
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>>96859592
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>>96859605
I wouldn't mind so much living in an era of decay and degeneration if it didn't extend to EVERY SINGLE FUCKING THING UNDER THE SUN
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>>96859590
>i made my land a 4/4 look at that
>that's it
concession accepted
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>>96859620
Either you use all UB or none.
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I made my land a 3/3 look at that
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>>96859658
>anon is playing 1 card games
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>>96859219
And Spiders aren't a 5 color archetype.
They'll add a ton of shit she can use in that color.
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>>96859676
*pats head*
Good job, anon!
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>>96859557
Yea this is likely to spike im thinking
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Anyway, fuck triggers.
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>>96859705
>Team Avatar
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Did someone mention FIRE?
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>>96859676
>doesn't even return directly to the battlefield when exiled
lmao
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>>96859722
>he didn't watch the show
should've been the Aang Gang
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dominik mayer made a thing.
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>>96859730
what the actual fuck, seriously
archivist of oghma was already a ridiculously good card, why have they then gone and stapled flying, massive stat growth and half a pull from tomorrow onto him? What the FUCK?
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>>96859539
I like how the copyright for UB cards is off-center on cards with p/t and moves when they don't have p/t.
>>96859705
I'm sure this is the same on other sets but I just noticed it now and can't unsee it
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>>96859750
too bad it sucks.
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>>96859752
You can have 4 archivist of oghmas out. You can have one of these.
This isn't a commander set.
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>>96859705
shouldn't this just be a one-sided ability wipe and not a boardwipe
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>>96859766
>this isnt a commander set
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You can now have Monastery Mentor on crack in the command zone

In case its difficult to read
Sokka, Tenacious Tactician

Human Warrior Ally

Menace, Prowess

Other Allies you control have menace and prowess.

Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, create a 1/1 white Ally creature token.

3/3
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>>96859705
If a total solar eclipse occurs every 2 years then how come it took like decades or whatever for this to happen and fuck the fire kingdom?
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>>96859786
watch the series
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>>96859779
>>this isnt a commander set
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>>96859786
pretty sure it's because it also interacts with sozin's comet
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>>96859766
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>>96859793
anon, this is an mtg thread
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>>96859793
Why would I watch a kids show I have zero nostalgia for?

>>96859803
Comets don't take decades to pass by and generally don't pass by frequently so how did this comet work for decades?
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>>96859605
I hate the new youtube interface.
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>>96859805
yes and avatar is now mtg
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>>96859819
I get that you're a fan.
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>>96859816
fuck, what did they do this time?
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>>96859766
commander thread, commander website
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>>96859815
>Why would I watch a kids show I have zero nostalgia for?
>Why don't you want to spoonfeed meeeeee
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>>96859783
thats cool but I want more outright flurry support in specifically WU, I don't want to play it in WUR
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>>96859834
How is that relevant? I am explaining why the legendary creature you can't have 4 out is being given that in a standard set where you will be able to run 4 copies of it. I don't even get why anyone is arguing. You're objectively wrong.
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I'm honestly shocked how many fans this cringe as shit kid's show has.
wtf is wrong with you people?
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>>96859815
Complete solar eclipses are rare in the Avatar universe.
Sozin's comet only passes by every 100 years.
They are not related at all.
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>>96859783
We already sort of had that with the recent Alesha didn't we? The Tarkir one?
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>>96859857
Millennials
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>>96859844
>avatar wasn't here before
>its here now
>explain yourself
seems reasonable
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>>96859857
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>>96859863
I'm millennials though, that's bullshit.
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>>96859867
>explain yourself
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>>96859880
Age?
It is mainly younger millennials. If you were born in 94 then you were like 10 when this shit started.
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>>96859851
anon the card sees almost zero play outside of singleton formats and legacy, where you are never going to get multiple copies of it out without cloning them. You are objectively retarded
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>>96859857
They were 9 when they saw it and it was the first thing they saw with a plot more complex than "Spot the dog catches the ball"
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>>96858993
>They're really trying to make Prowess work without understanding why it fundamentally sucks in Commander.
Somebody doesn't have a Shu Yun deck I see
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>>96859783
Wonder if older Ally cards will start to spike
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>>96859857
what's more shocking is UW still having fans
tf is wrong with those people amirite?
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>>96859862
Kinda
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The main set version of this card is sexier
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>>96859910
>man's face
>women's clothes
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>>96859857
Some anon was claiming it was the most important TV show of its time
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I'd take more spider-man over this shit.
>b-b-but it fits magic cuz like fantasy monks
No. Stylized cartoon art does not fit magic. Non-stop epic meme joke cards like quenchy cactus juice and ebin cabbages don't fit.
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>>96859919
It's not even close. >>96858887 blows it away by miles.
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>>96859783
a better prowess commander already exists.
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>>96859926
Yeah pigeons and hot dog stands and bagels fit mtg so much more.
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>>96859231
Menace always was red, so its fine
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>>96859925
CRIIIINGE
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>>96859926
>New York City is more magic than Fantasy Monks.
why?
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>>96859892
born 1990.
I have never met a fan of the show in my life, Toonami was way more millennial. Ya know dbz, cowboy beebo, tenchi, outlaw star etc.
not that original run toonami would be better for mtg but at least it wouldn't be so childish
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best card flavour-wise and why is it sire of seven deaths?
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>>96859939
Those are not jokes. Cabbage man is a show joke. Quench shit is a joke. Those 3 things you named exist in the location and are not jokes. Their art also fits in better because it isn't trying to do a cartoon style. All these cards have awful art for this reason. How does a cartoon art style fit?
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>>96859950
Non-cartoon art
Lack of cards referencing jokes for kids in a kids show. Only meme was shit from a 60 year old cartoon. But Avatar was partly a comedy show so you're getting unfunny kids jokes jammed in.
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>>96859919
>you're uncomfortable seeing a little girl? pay up for the grown up version
bravo wotc
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>>96859972
>Non-cartoon art
Yeah it's comic art instead anon this reasoning is pretty retarded honestly and I don't even hate the Spider set
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>>96859851
>the legend rule dictates that a card needs to be able to do 3x as much as an equally priced hatebear because you can't have four of them in play, also running multiples of cards is entirely for the sake of stacking their effects and not consistency
damn people should get their thalias refunded since she just has one keyword and lower cmc than glowrider
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>>96859959
eldrazi have pretty good flavor overall
years and years ago maro claimed an uncard slipped into standard and I am fully convinced pic related is it.
if only when my friend opened it he said out loud
>how did an uncard get in this set
lmao
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>>96859730
>one shi T
kek also pretty gud
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>>96859998
>mana cost is odd
>its power/toughness are both odd numbers aswell
holy kino
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>>96859907
Some already have but the majority of them suck anyways
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I'm mad about the thing
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>>96859998
>full art version still has vestiges of the m15 border
ew.
its been 10 years, new frame when?
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>>96859959
Elesh Norn Mother of Machines because the Junji Ito art panders to my fetish of a strong businesswoman getting stuck in a wall then getting blasted by her underlings who respect her even more afterwards
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>>96859998
>>96860009
My favorite part is the ruling with
>yes, your opponents can't even
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>>96859937
its sorta better elsha since you don't need to connect face and still have way to grow them
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>>96860040
I liked bloomburrow, but yes I have been mad about a lot since then
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>>96859998
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi4Z06IbSek
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new tribal staple just dropped
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>>96859959
Pulled this version in foil but sold it to my friend since I'm very unlikely to be playing Eldrazi any time soon and he already has a deck.
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>>96859990
Fuck off with your vanity project Gavin
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>>96860056
No.
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>>96860055
>he doesn't have a random colorless big creature in his deck
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>>96860052
>4 mana
>enters tapped
>is just three tree city
Meh
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>>96860052
>4 mana rock
>enters tapped
>win more scaling
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>>96860052
>4 mana win more
>enters tapped
lol, lmao even
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>>96860052
>opponent casts this
>everyone instantly counterspells it or casts an artifact-hate card
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>>96860082
>>96860084
"win more" is a foreign concept to edh casuals
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>>96860082
>>96860084
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>>96860092
is it even worth removing unless they have like 8 creatures?
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>>96860097
This is so fucking ugly.
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>>96860097
its so fucking ugly it actually hurts
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>>96860101
even with 4 creatures it's going to pay itself back the next turn, I would say yes
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>>96860097
I've never understood these printings
what are they even supposed to be?
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>>96860107
>>96860113
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>>96860067
I mean now that I'm probably finally building an Urza deck I might have to get some
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>>96860121
it's sort of a collector-thing I reckon
I always end up selling them because I prefer how normal magic cards look
Except picrel
I kept it because a wizard blowing up a moon is very funny
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>>96860140
They were secret lair cards. I think representing some artist group.
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>>96860121
I actually like the art and frame here but the text feels like it's shit on purpose
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>>96860140
That Magus Of The Moon is actually pretty cool. Almost makes me want to run him just for the art.
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Penis Commander.
Penis Commander.
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>>96860123
I miss this era of Magic art
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>>96860158
>fire nation
>black
Wut
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>>96860159
yeah
though steve has some good modern pieces as well.
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>>96860167
This set is a total mess colour-wise
a bunch of nonred creatures have firebending
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>>96860169
if that card was done 5 years prior they would be dressed a lot differently
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>>96859919
It's kind of cute how each art is her at different parts of her bending training and life.
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>>96860167
>genocidal group trying for world domination
Yeah?
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>>96860176
...yeah....
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>>96860167
>>96860171
Firebending itself is red but the Fire Nation as it exists in the show is black, this is pretty obvious
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>>96860178
>abs
>feet
>pits

Bros... we won...
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>>96860169
I really like this card, it's too bad power creep killed it's viability in any format.
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>>96860187
Like I said, the set is a mess colour-wise
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>>96860158
we already have GROND
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So uh, when do we get an actually proper set? You know, one with Jace, Ugin, Bolas, the Eldrazi, and so on.
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>>96860221
You miss the Jacestice league?
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>>96860158
>not blue
damn
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>>96860158
Dammit, gonna have to make a spot in Greasefang
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>>96860233
i remember maro having a melty when he heard that lol
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>>96860245
proofs?
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>>96860233
Jace is a cool dude at least. I'd rather have Jace and his merry band than whatever the fuck we've gotten lately.
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>>96859119
This kind of makes me want to $oy out
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>>96860257
cringe
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>>96860233
avatar is literally just the muppet babies version of the jacetice league
>squad of cringe characters each representing an element (colour) from their universe teaming up to go beat the Bad Guy
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>>96859119
man that art suuuuucks
its like everything is made of jello
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>>96860221
By the looks of it you'll be waiting till late 2026 or maybe beyond depending on what Reality Fracture ends up being. Personally I don't really like any of those characters so I'm fine with not seeing them.
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>>96860206
Just because you're too retarded to understand the dynamics of the lore behind the set doesn't mean the dynamics aren't correct when translated to MTG's color dynamics.
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>>96860264
I unironically would rather watch an episode of muppet babies episode than Avatar.
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>>96859099
Woulda been a great gift to get my ex in to Magic, too bad she dumped me in May
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>>96860264
wouldn't that be Captain Planet?
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>>96860158
Damn, crew it and flicker with Dimension Door to have some recurring removal. And they can't even hide their shit from it with its Shadowspear effect.
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>>96860288
I haven't watched captain planet because I'm not in my 40s but aren't the rings in that like, emotions and shit? Not elements?
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>>96860264
it was the most important show of its time.
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>>96860285
I regret giving my ex Summoner's Rift
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>>96860303
I love this meme already.
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>>96860302
They are elements+heart
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>>96860278
>>96860221
They completely flubbed the new gatewatch plot with Outlaws, so they had to take time off for rewrites
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>>96860305
yeah mine loved Arcane and I was gonna buy the foils of the SL and frame them for her
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>>96860310
You don't seem happy. Want some cactus juice? IT'LL LE QUENCH YA
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>>96860278
Supposedly RF is going to reveal Bolas and his honosexual behavior is behind UB shit, and he'll run a team of bad guys from various UB sets.
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>>96860311
Sokka being best once again by being the heart of the group.
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>>96859128
>Azula is so fucking Mardu it hurts. What’s the point of making UB slop if you don’t even represent characters right?
Naw shes Grixis.
Zuko as Mardu makes sense.
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>>96860339
>he'll run a team of bad guys from various UB sets.
This sounds stupid as fuck but I'm into it. Part of the fun of a crossover is the unexpected interaction with characters that never met before and this sounds like it could provide that fully. Always thought the Universe Beyond stuff never directly interacting and referencing MTG stuff or each other was part of some license deal but if they were saving it for a set then maybe that makes sense
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>all this butthurt over Avatar
At this point I want them to make a Korra set just to watch you all piss and shit your pants all over the place.
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>>96859128
You are so autistic about villains in grixis
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>>96860373
You don't even own cards
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>>96860373
That's how I felt when you cried about spider-man
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>>96860373
This scene redeemed the entire shitfest of a show
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token decks will love this nigga
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How shitty is a diet Faith's Reward in the CZ? I want to build a deck that treats wipes as blinks and leans hard into saccing things for value. Does it ever work as planned?
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>>96860373
hot
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>>96859281
Bolas wants to rule so he should be Mardu
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>>96860368
this + coalition victory
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>>96860385
5 10,000 count boxes of bulk say otherwise.
And a few dozen smaller boxes that sill need to be organized.
Oh hey, I forgot I bought a collectors box of LOTR.
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>>96860373
yep, that sure would be bad.
hopefully they stop ub before that comes down the pike
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so will Horizon Stone go up in price with all this Firebending shit?
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>>96860410
You don't even own cards. Why make stuff up?
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>>96860373
Korra secret lair drops would unironically be kino.
Heroes:
>Korra, Asami, Bolin, Mako
Villians 1:
>Amon, Unalaq, Raava, Kuvira
Villians 2:
>Zaheer, Pli, Ghazan, Ming-hua
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>>96860399
Sorcery speed makes it tough, but I found it was pretty good.
I forget why I took my deck apart, probably needed the pieces for something else.
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More generic removal. Well appreciated.
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>>96860424
>Korra secret lair drops would unironically be kino.
>Heroes:
>>Korra, Asami, Bolin, Mako
Korra has a special Partner Rule that's shared by Asami and Mako. But each can only partner with 1 at a time.
Bolin gets no partner.
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>>96860437
>But each can only partner with 1 at a time.
yes, this is how all partner variants work
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>>96859549
Now you're just taking the piss
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>>96859554
>oh and let's not forget you can't even be using the land to attack o nthe same turn
If you can't read just say so, this is just embarrassing
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>>96860424
Sorry we got a cabbage secret lair first
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>>96860460
The majority of these are just him caught in the crossfire but the Toph one is just her fucking with him directly. That's fun
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>>96860449
What is wrong with this art style?
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>>96860458
>triggers on attack
>the trigger makes a land into a creature
so when are you declaring it attacking, anon?
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>>96860460
what a strange franchise
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>>96860449
>>96860460
I just realized, the TLA set has no cabbage food card/token
this shit sucks ass, wizards should kill themselves and declare bankruptcy, in that order
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>>96860471
too bad it's not in white, you could get a second combat step
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>>96860473
just a funny meme
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Post decks while we wait for new thread
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>>96860576
I already did
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>>96860576
>want to make fun of you for ugly sol ring
ya know maybe I am just getting too autistic about mtg art.
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>>96851605
Wouldn't this be hyper annoying in commander, since you'd first have to count how many cards you even have? Is that the point? I already hate whenever I have to shuffle again.
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>>96860592
I just didn't change the artwork for the sol ring or arcane signet, it's a basic one
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>>96860576
https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/ink-stained-requiem-for-a-forgotten-deck/
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>>96860592
I personally prefer the EOE sol ring to the normal one
the og is the best by far though
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>>96860607
It would have bothered me too much to leave it like that.
When will we get an option to set oldest printing as default, fuck.
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>>96860576
Here's one i just finished
Also there has to be a better way to get an image right, deck? Archidekt deck pics cant be always this ugly
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>>96860657
perfect, thank you anon
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>>96860657
l m a o
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>>96860657
The best part is that that person wasn't even being disrespectful towards the "jacetice league," they were just asking a normal ass question. Mark just decided to sperg out on this person for no fucking reason.
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>>96860657
Malding
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>>96857928
>TQ
I have a Baru, Fist of Krosa deck which is based around his Grandeur ability. It's complete jank, I played it tonight and did very little other than ramp, but sometimes I can ramp loads very quickly, get a decent draw spell and go through most of my deck
>>96860576
https://moxfield.com/decks/7HrV75eB3U-zD32LIhWg7g
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>>96860368
Isn't that pretty cheap for the event it represents? Like that is the one big epic moment in the finale, right?
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>>96860680
calling it the 'jacetice league' IS VERY, VERY DIRESPECTFUL to the story
I am a serious game designer and definitely not a cocksleeve for hasbro shareholders
also, you will be nostalgic for companions
this is a threat
t. maro
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>>96860701
>Now TRUST ME when I say hybrid mana changes are the future. I am a totally normal person who will make only good cards going forward.
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unironically if they change hybrid mana it would be a big boon for necrotic ooze chads like myself
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>>96860657
You know it's funny given that this remark is what likely drove Mark to kill Tamiyo later on.
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>>96860694
Not the first time that they've done something like that for what's supposed to be a finale card. It's a bid to make it a staple; whether it'll succeed remains to be seen.
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Aren't people here constantly whining about decks with more than 2 colors? Wouldn't the hybrid mana change be beneficial to decks with fewer colors therefor pushing back against "five color slop"?
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>>96860339
>all this effort just to make a dissidia set as a follow up for FF
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>>96860815
>making monocolor decks INTO multicolor decks fixes the slop
lmao
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>>96860815
there's like 3 playable hybrid mana cards
this shit is not a big deal
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>>96860815
I'm more attentive to the fact that the people chanting that "the game is dead" are the ones getting riled up over the game getting worse.
Like, okay, the game is dead, see you in 2030 when you're asking for help refining your Spongebob Phyrexia deck.
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>>96860815
It's a thematic problem not a mechanical one.
Applying mechanical logic to the problem is to miss the issue entirely.
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>>96858970
Dang, red got a heroic intervention?
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>>96860815
>we hate multicolour slop
>>okay, well what if your monocolour deck could also play the multicolour slop?
stunning and brave design
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>>96860368
MANAMORPHOSE AND THEN THIS?!
IZZET IS OUT OF CONTROL AAAAAIIIIIEEEEE
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>>96860845
>eroding the rules
>for three playable cards
So.... why even do it then? Other than to assert that they can ruin commander on a whim?
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>>96860815
Anons only want mono color decks to exist that's why
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You will run Gran-Gran in one of your decks right anon?
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>>96860576
I found pictures of my old Horde of Notions deck from 2011. Unfortunately I sold most of these cards in 2014 for $$$.

1/5
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>>96860933
Horde of Notions was my very first commander, I shouldn't have made a wubrg commander my first but it Horde of Notions made me love the game
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>>96860845
please name them
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>>96860933
2/5
>>96860943
It was my first and only 5 color one. It was maybe the 3rd or 3th EDH deck I built starting in 2010. It was a lot of fun and very fast for back then. Goal was to get any creature out fast with some value, and then load up on swords and damage increases like Rafiq, Finest Hour etc. to make anything a threat. Horde it'self works especially well since he has haste, vigilance and trample to get that commander damage through.
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>>96860926
If we get a universes within version
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>>96860972
3/5
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>>96860926
>Above rate 1 drop that loots and cost reduces
>Uncommon
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>>96861048
4/5
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>>96861092
5/5
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>>96860953
You're right. That means this change is even more of a nothingburger and nobody should be worried about it.
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So at this point they are pretty much going to get rid of the banlist, except for some minor offenders, right? What are some currently banned cards you're going to start throwing into decks?

For me it's Rofellos, Prime Time, Sylvan Primordial and Sundering Titan in my Azusa deck. Yes I will run mono green and ramp, and you're not going to do squat about it because MLD is frowned upon. I will help warp the format and force them to change.
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>>96861144
>So at this point they are pretty much going to get rid of the banlist, except for some minor offenders, right?
What made you think this?
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>>96861144
don't forget Emrakul Aeons Torn!
>Yes I will run mono green and ramp, and you're not going to do squat about it because MLD is frowned upon. I will help warp the format and force them to change.
incredibly based
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>>96861125
This deck is super pretty, thanks for sharing
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I like this card
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>>96861225
I wish this had some kind of ETB to justify the 6 cost
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>>96861242
how much is this going to cost?
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Any suggestions for this? Im putting a list together and Im utp to like 67 cards, so need to figure out way more. Im mostly red cards. Lots of AoE damage of course and mostly some efficient/flexible burn. Things I'd consider the nuts.

Any good secondary theme or engine for this? I dont want to just fill in with "Cast non-permanent, do thing" cards necessarily
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>>96861242
>create a shit load of firebenders
>attack
>make a shit load of red mana
>flash this in
>connect in combat
>basically have +10/+0 easy on each attacker
Depends on how much firebending takes off
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>>96861242
this with Roku seems really nice
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>>96861344
>six seven
Run this.
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>>96861344
>Any good secondary theme or engine for this?
Since I noticed the card only states
"deals noncombat damage to a creature equal to that creature's toughness" and there's no check if the creature is yours or the oponnents;
maybe something that involves generating creatures, dealing damage to them equal to their toughness, letting you draw a card?
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>>96861386
Also forgot to add
it doesn't even check if you killed the creature or not
just that you dealt noncombat damage to it that was equal to its toughness
https://scryfall.com/card/dsc/161/brash-taunter
https://scryfall.com/card/som/151/darksteel-myr
https://scryfall.com/card/clb/875/stuffy-doll
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>>96861386
>>96861401
darksteel myr + this
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>>96861386
>maybe something that involves generating creatures
Just remembered about Parting Gust
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>>96860280
fire nation is clearly mardu.
a fucking drill is not black.
what the hell.
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>>96861144
Ran in thassa pre-ban
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>>96860206
>Like I said, the set is a mess colour-wise
Red = Fire
White = Air
Blue = Water
Green = Earth
Black = Element, except evil
Makes complete sense honestly
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>>96861483
Yes, except they have multiple firebenders who aren't red
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>>96861452
It's a big black cock looking to penetrate and rape the peaceful azn city
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>>96861498
Because they're evil.
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>>96861483
it sucks ass that black is just being used to represent evil
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>>96861507
So being evil makes you not fire any more?
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>>96861498
Aren't those the firebenders who's power is fueled by hate?
Hate fueled powers is pretty black
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>>96861519
You're fucking retarded if you think the Avatar elements have to align 1:1 with the MTG color pie.
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>>96861529
>Hate fueled powers is pretty black
feels more like red than black
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>read thread
...yeah I think it's time to take a break from mtg.
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>>96861536
That's because it IS more red than black

>>96861535
Yes that's why this set is a mess colour-wise
That was in fact my point
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>>96861544
red and black in about equal numbers, so hate fueled firebending would be Rakdos, with some being red and others being black
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>>96861483
I think it's a problem with certain licensors understanding Magic colors.
Especially Nickelodeon, I think they see black as the "evil" color. Only Zuko has any black because he used to be evil. Happened with Spider-Man too. Same seems to be happening with TMNT. FF seems to be the only exception, but I'm not a 40 year old boomer so idk how morally ambiguous the characters are
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>>96861563
>FF seems to be the only exception,
I thought that was only because they apparently decided on the colors of the precons first based on the games and then slapped the leads in those colors? Less about the character and more about the game's colors. Anyway, at least Turtles has Splinter be black. That's something. Black is probably always going to be looked at as the bad guy color and I don't really think there's any way around that.
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>>96861544
>Yes that's why this set is a mess colour-wise
>That was in fact my point
So it's a mess because you're fucking retarded?
God damn, this is some weapons-grade autism.
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>>96861563
most of the pure black creatures in the avatar set are vermin or scavengers of sorts which fits the traditional interpretation of black
not all creatures are evil either, there's boiling rock rioter and merchant of many hats

in the base set (not eternal) it's only one version of Azula who's black and friggin Sozin who's defining feature is committing genocide
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WTF based
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>>96861610
So are you ESL or just a disingenuous retard?
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I AM A TURTLE AND I EAT PIZZA
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>>96861588
>Black is probably always going to be looked at as the bad guy color and I don't really think there's any way around that.
It is the colour of vampires, demons, sacrifice and other stuff that involves pain for others for your own reward
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>>96861655
I'm so tired and I eat something i guess
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>>96861563
>>96861588
if they had actually done that the FF7 and FF10 precons should have been Sultai and Abzan while the xivver one should have been jeskai, most of the non-villains they made black in the main set were solely for color pie stuff because they were reanimators
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This is not a drill
Image limit has been reached
Recycle my accidental double post
Migrate (legally)

>>96857945
>>96857945
>>96857945
>>96857945
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I'm back
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>>96861344
https://scryfall.com/search?q=%28o%3A%22enrage%22+OR+o%3A%22whenever+%7E+is+dealt+damage%22%29+-o%3A%22damage+to+you%22+commander%3Awr&unique=cards&as=grid&order=set
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>>96858868
It's actually supposed 75% of decks instead of 25% of decks.
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>>96861327
XRRR



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