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Try To Remember The Good Old Days Edition

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com/
https://www.pdhrec.com/

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

TQ:
Post a song you listen to while brewing and other anons have to guess what you're brewing/recommend something to brew based on the song
I go first
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RirxC7uwUSw
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>UB is better mechanically than in-universe sets!
>some IPs "fit" Magic so they're okay!
>UB is okay as long as the cards are good!
>I don't like UB but I don't wanna yuck someone's yum!
These will be the useful idiots to walk us off a cliff
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*targets you*
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>>96873591
>some IPs "fit" Magic so they're okay!
This one is objectively true, anon.
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>>96873600
Incorrect
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>>96873591
what baffles the scientists is how people STILL believe and defend MaNo after him lying so SO many times
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>>96873603
So are you saying magic is not somehow sword/sorcery fantasy with some cybernetic horror mixed in? Several IPs are similar enough to be part of that.
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>>96873598
Targets who?
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>TQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N00j38j85YM
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Give me a review on my first landfall deck please!
https://moxfield.com/decks/Uw9H7PYqjkaCPIkZNxmNSQ
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>>96873613
Selling ads on cardboard is never okay and it doesn't matter if you happen to like the content of the ad
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>>96873591
>some IPs "fit" Magic so they're okay!
TRVTH NUKE
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If I like the ip it's good
If I don't like the ip it's bad
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>>96873624
>Selling ads on cardboard
I disagree with the premise here, honestly. I don't think that it's an advertisement for LotR, a set of movies and old books. Even less for FF where 99% of the content is from old games.
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>>96873621
Looks pretty good imo but it needs Titania, Voice of Gaea since I like her
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there are no good outside IPs
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>>96873643
>Even less for FF where 99% of the content is from old games.
Literally the entire series went on sale on Steam the same month the set dropped and they have an MMORPG that always needs new players anyway
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>>96873639
based
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>>96873461
I know there are some straight up bad cards in here, but this jank has won a few games. It has been fun asking my opponents to make as many decisions as possible.
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>>96873657
>Literally the entire series went on sale on Steam the same month
Anon. Do you mean... the Steam Summer Sale?
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>>96873671
He does but he's going to lie about it and pretend that those two things didn't happen near each other.
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>>96873643
I will guiltily admit I installed the free trial of XIV after playing my FF monk tribal deck.
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>>96873571
>TQ
https://youtu.be/wbJXVFuGyPc?si=m-WsY3UNTma0idNT


>>96873639
If it's thematically fitting or conceivable adjacent to 'real' MTG cards, it's acceptable.
If it's not thematically fitting or conceivable adjacent to real mtg cards, but is Secret Lair it's acceptable.
If it's not thematically fitting or conceivable adjacent to real mtg cards and is not a reprint with a different appearance (Secret Lair or not) it's not acceptable.
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>>96873646
Hmm i feel like it might be hard to reliably grave four lands tho since i have a lot of recursion?
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>>96873681
And did you have fun?
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>>96873657
the set came out during the Steam Summer Sale
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Lmao I just checked edhrec top 100 to see if any of my commanders were there and its literally only 1 and its at spot 100. Guess Im bisexual too, anon.
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>>96873657
>Literally the entire series went on sale on Steam the same month
So here's a question, is that a bad thing? FF are good games, and if the cards are good and appropriate for magic, this is called a win-win. Nothing bad happened here except for what Nosewater took away from it (which is frequently the case since he's a kike)
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>>96873616
>song from 2023
>sounds like it's from 1973
What you need is an actual elder dragon that got a fresh card
Esper voltron will also suit your desire to be quirky
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>>96873671
>>96873679
>>96873699
Do you retards seriously think that was coincidence?
I swear there's nothing more frustrating than neets who have never even known employment let alone business, commenting on business anyway
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>>96873687
I feel like dedicated Commander Decks are as acceptable as Secret Lairs. They're as designed to work together as Secret Lairs, but get pushed to be their own pretend format with each other.
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>>96873721
>Do you retards seriously think that was coincidence?
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>>96873613
It's not worth what comes along with it.
And besides, Strixhaven alone is evidence enough that they can just shamelessly rip off an existing IP instead of needing to license it out.

The only thing that UB actually seems to accomplish is forcing WotC to print cards with attractive women on them, but that's a self-imposed problem.
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>>96873571
>tq
Been listening to the new Aesop Rock album on repeat
https://youtu.be/BDJsN9P1pUA?si=By9781I_QEYP9o5X
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>>96873687
>https://youtu.be/wbJXVFuGyPc
Everything from the question mark after is a tracking URL just so you know. It's nothing to shit yourself about but it means Youtube analytics can see that your account shared a link, and who you shared it to if people use the url with the tracker

Anyway, you're going to put a bunch of land enchants in a deck and build a magic forest
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>>96873721
>do you think a scheduled event might have lined up with another
Yes, yes I do but like... so? It's not a conspiracy anon. I stand by what I said about a win-win. We got awesome cards and a good tie-in, they got some business and shared great games with potentially new fans. Obviously, you didn't reply to my post there, but it's all the same discussion.
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>>96873706
>So here's a question, is that a bad thing? FF are good games, and if the cards are good and appropriate for magic, this is called a win-win
No.
There is no middle ground on this shit. There is no world in which you convince Hasbro to be restrained and appropriate. That is your concern as a player. Hasbro just wants to make money, and since FF made a billion dollars, we now get to spend the next 5 years watching them desperately plug every fucking IP they can think of that might make them as much money or more with absolutely no regard for what YOU think is appropriate

The only way to respond to UB is to burn it to the fucking ground
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>>96873732
What is Strixhaven "shamelessly ripping off"?
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>>96873768
Are you fucking serious?
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>>96873768
Winx Club
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>>96873773
Show some examples and then I'll take you serious.
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>>96873762
See, I just don't see the world like you do. I think that FF was entirely a win-win.
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>>96873598
thanks, y-you too
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>>96873779
>DURRRRRR I LIKE DA IP SO IT MUST BE GOOD!
Literally you right now.
Consider that other people couldn't give a fuck about the IP.
Consider that other people don't think it's "wicked cool" for there to be a fucking legendary roadster in the game
Consider that the consequences of you getting your consoomerist fix of thing-you-know printed on cardboard is that we call get to suffer things-we-don't-know printed at fucking random as one of the greediest companies in the world snuffles around for another billion dollars like a fucking pig in dirt
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>>96873803
>this entire mental breakdown
Sorry bud, I'm not gonna engage when you throw a tantrum when people disagree.
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>>96873734
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>>96873811
Where is the tantrum? Your post is just an excuse to leave an argument you lost.
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Instead of seething about UB for the 798423rd time, why don't we talk about cards that might see a price spike
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Once the banlist is done away with for game changers only, how will the meta change?
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>>96873822
He's too ugly. I'll wait for a UB reprint with a cooler character, thanks.
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I am the only person ITT to have listened to the song in the OP and it shows
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>>96873535
Most of the time, nah, it is pretty underwhelming.
That said, I run it in my choco deck where it is an absolute mvp.
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>>96873849
No I listened to it and wanted to kill myself
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>>96873803
>some IPs are actually fine
Yes, whether or not you personally like it, some IPs are good and should have neat crossovers. TMNT, Spoodrman, and such are not. It's a lot simpler than you're making it.
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>>96873849
20 bombobloodclat pussywagon basic lands
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>>96873737
Thanks, I was unaware of that (and fortunately there are no unhinged lunatics in these parts - surely)

On your guess, you're close but incorrect!
I'll give you these "hints" about what is and isn't correct, and another song I listened to while brewing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyY2_5YscxY&list=RDTyY2_5YscxY&
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>>96873875
Rhys
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>>96873854
Yeahh I thought it doesn't seem that impressive, maybe I'll get the necrobloom to replace it.
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>>96873880
What is not redded out in the image is correct.
(Rhys is not.)
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>>96869880
>wasnt an incremental, telegraphed on board and disruptable win condition
any time an opponent untaps with a non-wall commander alive it's a partially telegraphed win since fucking Commander Damage exists. Let alone a card that literally has openly displayed on its card text from turn 1 that it will get its power boosted in an easily visible way.
Getting to 21 commander damage even with a vanilla 4/4 is possible even if you restrict yourself to fucking bracket 1 cards. That's like two combat tricks and some source of Double-Strike. Are we calling Giant Growth a gamechanger now?
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>>96873615
huh I've never seen that card even though I play aggro on arena, surprised I havent since it seems like a hard counter to some of the most annoying shit like Screaming Nemesis
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>>96873639
>If I like the ip it's good
>If I don't like the ip it's bad
if I like the IP I can tolerate an EDH precon or Secret Lair for it (40k, Final Fantasy, Street Fighter)
if I don't like the IP I don't even want to see a Secret Lair for it, let alone an entire fucking Standard set (TMNT, Spider-Man, Dr. Who, Fallout)
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>>96873768
A lesser known series by the name of Harry Potter.
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>>96873778
it is literally the laziest harry potter ripoff possible, to the point that even with an entire set and a fucking D&D campaign setting book there is still essentially zero worldbuilding for the ENTIRE PLANE outside of the school. And unlike Duskmourn, where at least they tried a lazy "actually, the haunted house took over the entire plane! it's all this one building now!" justification, we know for a fact that there's an entire fucking plane full of different races/species/cultures/countries with thousands of years of war and history and shit there the moment you walk off campus in Strixhaven.........It's just your DM has to make up 99.999% of it if you play there because WOTC didn't bother making any of it. The entire plane exists for a harry potter magic school and harry potter wizard houses and that's it. there's even blatant 1:1 allegories for harry potter shit like Boros Lorehold being Gryffindor and Quandrix the autistic math wizards being Ravenclaw and Silverquill being the "we're totally not evil, except 99% of the time yeah we're evil" Silverquill being orzhov slytherin
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>>96873990
As we all know, Harry Potter invented schools.
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>>96873868
>whether or not you personally like it,
No see this is the problem.
The issues with UB aren't about personal likes, they're about the game of Magic literally not being Magic anymore and Hasbro selling 3rd party IPs as ads on cardboard because they're chasing a billion dollars

YOU are the one who justifies UB because YOU personally like some of it
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>>96874135
UB sets are ads for Magic.
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>>96873875
>fortunately there are no unhinged lunatics in these parts - surely
You don't have to worry about that anyway, it's purely a youtube-side thing. Amazon does the same shit inserting massive trackers into URLs. It's just for them to monitor how their site is used, but some people prefer to avoid that shit since it's so easy to cut out of a URL
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>>96874142
Not that anon, but personally I think them being ads for magic is "fine" sometimes if they did it seldomly. Its just that now its the majority which is dumb. Not everything needs to be Fortnite. But obviously this arguments being beaten to death because of the major UB ramp up.
I've only ever put any money into one UB set, and it was the best one.
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>>96874142
Wrong, and even if not wrong, wouldn't justify it.
If it's not Magic, I don't want to see it on a Magic card. 3rd party IPs already have their own media and content, if you enjoy it then fuck off and enjoy it instead of inserting it where it isn't wanted
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>>96874135
>, they're about the game of Magic literally not being Magic anymore
incorrect but ok
>being wrong about the ads thing again
no amount of repeating this like a mantra makes it true. the ad is for MAGIC, not the other way around.
>>96874168
I absolutely agree about them doing it way too often.
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>>96874185
>no amount of repeating this like a mantra makes it true. the ad is for MAGIC, not the other way around
You're such a fucking idiot it's unreal.
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>>96874172
It never ceases to amaze me how MtG fans are this entitled when they're getting twice as many sets as usual because the bonus sets don't have pictures they like.
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>>96874048
>ask for examples
>starts rambling about things that aren't examples
We're not talking about D&D or the house set, or the shallow depth to Strixhaven's worldbuilding. If it's blatant there should be tons, or at least, a couple very strong examples.
Show me any cards that look like characters or places from Harry Potter. And don't give me any of that shit like the acceptance letter or the stadium. Universities have sports teams and Harry Potter was not the origin of mage schools you knuckle dragger.
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>Field of Ruin
>Ghost Quarter
>Demolition Field
>Volatile Fault
Other than these, is there a mono-blue or colorless way to force your opponents to search their decks? I'm already ready to run Crucible of Worlds with this guy, but I wanna know if there's others.
Also if I understand Field of the Dead correctly, would this big bird trigger 3 times?
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>>96874190
>ad hom
concession accepted
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>>96874135
> LE SANCTITIY OF MAGIC

If you don't like UB sets then w/e but that's a retarded ass reason. They have changed the rules, broken design concepts, shifted focus to a different format(commander) 10 fucking years ago. Your only argument is the superficial aesthetics of what is on your cardboard. And considering they would just make some gay tranny shit left to their own devices I'd rather they do UB and be forced to respect art of the original series they can't fuck up too much unless the IP holder agrees to pozz.
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>>96874192
>It never ceases to amaze me how MtG fans are this entitled when they're getting twice as many sets as usual
I know you think baiting on 4chan is the funniest thing in the world, but can you go do it on reddit instead?
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>>96874195
you were given multiple specific examples
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>>96874221
>Your only argument is the superficial aesthetics of what is on your cardboard.
Licensing 3rd party IPs in billion dollar ad deals is not superficial aesthetics no matter how many times you say it is
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>>96874226
No the idea for that image came into my head one day and I found it too funny to not shoehorn in at the first possible opportunity because the idea of a full LoL/Fortnite set makes me unironically crack up.
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>>96874205
get it while it's 52 cents
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>>96874190
You know they can be Ads for Magic AND ads for the IP being used at the same time.
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This should've been the art for Cruel Tutor btw
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>>96874238
>ad deals
yeah, an ad for Magic to people who like those other things. Literally what is there even to buy for shit like TMNT anymore? That series hit its peak in the 90s. FF might still be releasing games, but the first 13 games range from 1987 to 2010.
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>>96874267
>yeah, an ad for Magic to people who like those other things.
Just keep saying it bro, that's how you make things true. I think an old-timey guy once said something like that idk
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>>96874236
Your fan theory of which colleges are supposed to be copies of HP houses are not examples. There's 4 houses, 5 colleges. I thought they were 1:1 allegories? Show cards or admit you're a chimp.
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>the shitposter has turned up and he's now going back through conversations to reply the most retarded shit possible
You know sometimes I hate these threads
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>>96874265
What card is that art actually used on?
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>>96874270
What made more out of the Final Fantasy set? FF or MTG?
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>>96874135
>>96874221
I'll just chime in as a 3rd, I always thought crossovers as a kid would be cool, but the monkey paw certainly curled when the first UB was the absolutely still relevant or fantasy-fitting The Walking Dead.


imo "Magic the Gathering" started dying slowly at the Jacetice League, a lot of the grit being removed from the story, and the sets devolving into a formula of
>Real world culture
>Tropey or gimmicky plotline
>Add identifiable and expressive art of every real world ethnicity (even having white and black samurai)
This feels more like an amusement park sort of deal over a world / franchise. Even when they revisit sets they just do the same thing as above. Lorwyn Eclipsed is 100% going to have black elves with dreadlocks and they'll somehow make a Flamekin look asian.

Personally I draw the line at the non-fantasy ones and would've accepted them even if WotC was headed in a similar direction. But that could be me speaking after I got use to everything.
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>>96874270
It's crazy how you're doing the exact same thing except you're the one who's wrong. Reflect on this for the future, anon.
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>>96874296
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>>96874311
>look mom i posted it again
STILL incorrect but funny
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>>96873819
> argument
Yes Hasbro is greedy.
Yes some UB is good.
Considering you have open disdain for MTG and refuse to purchase even in uni cards, you should just fuck off
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>>96874311
oh it's this guy, everything makes so much sense now
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>>96874294
>I'm so retarded I don't realize that a licensor isn't going to license their IP without a share of the profits
It's both you fucking idiot. Sqenix didn't just give their IP away for free and hope to make money selling their videogames. They would have entered a deal where they get a split of all the money made on the Magic set with a guaranteed minimum in case it bombed
FUCK
I hate you fucking know-nothing neets who have no real world experience acting smug about how you THINK business works. Unreal
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>>96874278
I've never seen someone so desperate to suck wotc cock before
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>>96874336
Get used to it, there's a retard in these threads who thinks it's the funniest thing in the world to bait with contrarian bullshit
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>>96874278
anon, the literal mascots of the Harry Potter universe and wizard school are the owl familiars of students who deliver their mail and are kept as pets......STRIXhaven is literally named "PLACE WITH A BUNCH OF OWLS"
>Harry Potter didn't invent wizard schools!
Is there a single wizard school besides Harry Potter with such a large emphasis on owls?
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>>96874356
Anon, owls are associated with witches and wizards from before HP, and are broadly associated with wisdom in a longstanding link.
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>>96874369
>Anon, owls are associated with witches and wizards from before HP, and are broadly associated with wisdom in a longstanding link.
I accept your concession
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What's a stinker is the plane of Strixhaven is actually fairly cool and they explained why it has enemy mana magic fairly well, but they shoved any of that world building into the EDH decks with no story while the main set went
>How do you do fellow kids, here is a campus exclusively populated by [identifiable characters that share target age demographic of adults]
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>>96874058
All the more reason why WotC can just identify elements from other popular IPs and freely use them without getting into trouble.
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>>96874356
Is there even a single wizard school other than Harry Potter with houses? Houses are a UK school thing, so it's weird for them to even be in what is clearly a very American take on magic schools.
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>>96874356
Aside from this card is there another example you have? Surely there would be if it has a large emphasis on them.
Owls as witch/wizard familiars were not invented by HP either.
There is a lot of association with strix and magic in cultures before you were even born.
>>96874380
not even the same anon, fucking retard
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>96874403
I mean, nobody's saying HP wasn't an influence, but colleges do just... Have separate schools for different subject focuses. The point of Strixhaven is that it has real-world subjects but done via magic as opposed to teaching about the magic, that's the main 'gimmick' as it were.
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>>96874403
They're not called houses in Strixhaven. The university as a whole is Strixhaven, the 5 colleges each have their own campus.
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>>96874388
I really like the concept of mages learning magic, a lot of the cards themed around that were fun and evocative, but I hate the schools, I hate the founders, and I hate hand-egg quidditch
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>>96874135
Magic lore was shit anyway man can we please move on from pretending it was worth preserving?
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>>96874440
We've had this argument so many fucking times.
It doesn't matter if the LORE is GOOD, what appealed to millions of players was the theme. I don't give a fuck what happened when Jace last got his prostate examined, I care about shit like the cards in Innistrad telling me what kind of place it is just from the art and the card names.

If none of that ever appealed to you, then I'm sorry, but your 3rd party IP already has its own lore and its own media and you could fuck off and enjoy that if you wanted to. Not personally resonating with the worlds of Magic does not give you cause to replace it with some shit you DO like from a 30 year old jap video game
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>>96874406
>Surely there would be if it has a large emphasis on them
nigger they literally added a brand new owl-people race of walking talking owls AND made that one of the only new races added to Dungeons & Dragons because OWLHAVEN cares about owls lmao. The ONLY race added in this book for the record.
https://gatherer.wizards.com/search?setName=eq~Strixhaven%3A_School_of_Mages~STX&instanceType=eq~Creature&instanceSubtype=eq~Bird
there's nine new bird cards in the set, ALL of which are owls including two Legendaries, not even counting the Commander set released alongside it
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>>96874388
the other kind of funny thing is that mechanically the adventure book encourages your players to all try to be harem protagonists dating as many girls as possible because each one you're in a relationship with grants Inspiration and there's no limit on stacking, so if you fuck the entire cheerleading team you can get a dozen re-rolls
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>>96874471
No what appealed to millions of players was the gameplay, the theme was always inconsistent and an afterthought.
Hence why the game is now more popular than ever.
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>>96873822
It's hilarious the way it looks like the image was drawn and then they pasted his head on top of it.
>Here is my very western-fantasy artwork depicting a knight in armour on a polished white castle
>also he's from darkest africa just because
>and make him super ugly too
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>>96874490
Africa get's as dark as pitch anon they'd never print a card that dark
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>>96874434
>I really like the concept of mages learning magic
It won't happen, but if they want to get kino they can just make a set focusing on the broad Arcavios where hermits study all on their own.
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>>96874329
I know, I love poopdickschizo implying thaf the UB cards are advertisements as if WotC got paid directly to put them there.
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>>96874486
>No what appealed to millions of players was the gameplay,
That may be what YOU liked, but if your autism would fucking allow, understand that how YOU think and feel is not how others think and feel.

If you were right, would people be complaining about UB if the cards were mechanically good? No, they fucking wouldn't because whats on the cards wouldn't matter to them. And yet people are pissed about UB
>Hence why the game is now more popular than ever.
This doesn't even make logical sense with your own fucking argument
You literally just said people don't actually care whats on the cards, they just care about how it plays, and then the next fucking thing you say is how the game is more popular now. Was there some huge fucking rule change that made the game play better? No! It was fucking 3rd party IP slop.

You can't even write coherent bait. Have you been drinking?
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>>96874474
>anon, the literal mascots of the Harry Potter universe and wizard school are the owl familiars of students who deliver their mail and are kept as pets
>Harry Potter has owls deliver their mail! There are also OWL PEOPLE in Strixhaven, those are the same exact things!!!1
So is it owl carriers or owl people that make Strixhaven a "blatant rip off" of HP? Not even a scroll or letter in Harrier Strix's art btw.
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>>96874509
Nobody except bald 45 year old manchildren is mad, you're unwell.
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>>96874529
Concession accepted you low IQ shit-eater
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you can tell he's trying his hardest to not bring up sesame street and breaking bad
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>>96874356
>predates Harry Potter
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>>96874416
>do just... Have separate schools for different subject focuses.
The "Colleges" at Strixhaven are blatantly standins for Harry Potter Houses and house cup style competition. At a large university, somebody getting an engineering degree will technically be under the college of engineering & applied science vs somebody getting a biology degree might be in the general liberal arts college while the business majors are under the business school, but you're still all part of the same university and there's not Hogwarts style competitions between the biology and engineering students, and since which majors fall under which college is entirely arbitrary you can end up in similar classes to people from different colleges entirely incredibly easy (for example, at my university Physics majors were put in the liberal arts college alongside traditional liberal arts like math/english/biology/psychology/history while we had a separate applied sciences college for engineers and some other majors)

Strixhaven literally has an equivalent to Quidditch called "Mage Tower" that's played by the different "Houses" competing against each other for points...
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>>96874541
Don't try anon. They're either ragebaiting or a retard. In either case they cannot be reasoned with.
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>>96874516
>So is it owl carriers or owl people that make Strixhaven a "blatant rip off" of HP
nigger, Owls are a huge mascot in Harry Potter, so Strixhaven is named "PLACE WITH LOTS OF OWLS" and added both ACTUAL pet owls but then went even further with cute owl people.
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>>96874547
It's truly incredible the way the more american something becomes, the less soulful it becomes
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>>96874536
There was no concession, you're just mad that you're part of an irrelevant, dwindling minority.
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>>96874563
Whatever cope you tell your corporate masters, MaRo
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>>96874558
harry potter is a british book series by a british author, so this is americans aping an extremely popular british book. I have no doubt that harry potter is way more popular in america than in england though simply because there's like 7x as many people in burgerland vs bongland
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>>96874574
Notice how you need to spam 4chan because your irrelevant seethe can't gain traction anywhere else anymore. UB won. Forever!
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>>96874547
instead of a Golden Snitch you have to grab the opposing team's mascot to win. It really is quidditch meets football...
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>>96874574
call him an insect that usually works
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>>96874434
>>96874499 (Me)
Or better yet, they go back to Innistrad's forgotten faction of wizards.
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>>96874594
Come up with better bait. It's so painfully obvious how new you are to this site. You have that excitement of being anonymous, like you think you're invisible
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>>96874613
I can tell you were shaking typing this, you're so frustrated.
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He did not, in fact, come up with better bait.
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>>96874547
>Strixhaven literally has an equivalent to Quidditch called "Mage Tower"
So universities based around magic and spells cannot have sports teams, otherwise that is an exact rip off of specifically Quidditch. Got it.
>that's played by the different "Houses" competing against each other for points...
Did you expect the sport to be played by familiars? The professors or deans? Holy shit you're grasping at straws.

Of course it doesn't make sense to have a sports game with english students vs chemistry students. The thing is...and this is going to blow your mind...there's this thing that Strixhaven has that real life doesn't.......It's magic. Yes they can all use their different types of magic while playing the game.

>>96874605
Capture the flag was recorded before football or HP, nigger.
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I need to have the last word! My small man ego is tied to pointless anonymous internet arguments!
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>>96874648
Anyone who can't see that this is bait deserves to be baited I guess
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>>96874670
Is this not a last word though? kek
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>>96874673
WotC would have to pay me to care.
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>>96874499
we could get another set on dominaria about the rebuilding of Tolaria and a new attempt at Legendary Sorceries not being dogshit
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>>96873947
It's pretty good in casual edh as well.
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Is this not a last word though? kek
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>>96874694
nice tits on mai
can't believe they cucked zuko by making them get divorced and bitter in their old age, god I hate everything post-original show so much lmao
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>>96873571
MAN'S BUILDIN A DORAN DECK PON HIS TICK TING PLAYMAT
>TQ
https://youtu.be/iPtPo8Sa3NE
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>>96874710
no, this is
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>>96874724
That's meant to be Mai? Why does she look korean
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>>96874740
she's always had some of the most heavily asian features of the cast
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>>96873643
The LotR set was absolutely an advertisement, the Tolkien grandkid running things is milking the hell out of the IP
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>>96874295
Meh, much less cool.
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>>96874751
Its the Hime bangs.
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>>96874775
>could just have reprinted octopus umbra
>made a shitty lesson instead
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>>96874724
Pretty sure they eventually get back together, it's sort of a recurring thing that they keep breaking up.
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>check out /tg/ for some half-way intelligible discussion about EDH
>just slack jaws flinging shit at each other
now I remember why I don't come here
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>>96874812
except the part where octopus umbra is a garbage 5 mana card played at sorcery speed and this one might actually see play since it fills the same role as shit like shardmage's rescue and Emerge Unscathed. untapping also works as pseudo vigilance to let you punish the enemy for attacking
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>>96874818
You could reply to the TQ at any time
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>>96874845
Likewise. But don't act like that's going to make this any less of a shit show.
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>>96874843
>this one might actually see play
Maybe in Standard. Anon it's an effect they've printed a bunch of times.

https://scryfall.com/search?q=t%3Ainstant+c%3Au+o%3Ahexproof+o%3A%2B&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name
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>>96874724
Legend of Korra is written like a bad tumblr fanfic of the original show. What made TLA good was thrown out for autistic nitpicking of the bending and political systems. If they make a set of the sequel, I'm skipping.
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>>96874938
The only thing I've ever known about Korra is how bad I wanted to bang her.
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>>96874946
Truly the greatest dickbender of all time.
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>>96873181
>These motherfuckers can't put Swat on the GC list you think they're gonna put S&T there?

you mean deflecting swat right?
https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/214/deflecting-swat
https://scryfall.com/card/ons/174/swat
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How many shitty 480 screen capture cards do wizards have to pump out before proxy slop becomes accepted?
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>>96874724
Oh look, the first piece of non shit art in the set
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>>96874960
>https://scryfall.com/card/ons/174/swat
Never noticed that the mark of the slap is inconsistent with the motion of the hand.
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>>96873591
I love this comic on many levels
Gj anon
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I don't like being forced to like avatar.
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>>96873591
ummm UB is fine when it is an IP I like and Prof and the other youtubers gave me permission to like it :)

The "acceptable UB" shit angers me more than UB. Fucking hypocritical worms.
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>>96873607
Yes, my tribe good. Foreign tribe bad.
How is this a controversial take?
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>>96873600
I don't think a cartoon with a cartoon art style fits at all. "b-b-but the setting..." The art looks like cartoons. Why do they look like cartoons? Why are they not drawn in a magic style? You guys whined over Doctor Who having out of place realistic people but stylized American Cartoon art is a-ok. The set also is filled with fucking memes since the show is partly a comedy. Why does le cabbage merchant running joke need like 10 cards and how is this meme joke fitting magic better than pointy spider-man?
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>>96875001
Doctor Who is shit.
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>>96874296
>uhhh it isn't relevant
Didn't it have like 4 shows going? You retards constantly say something is dead or irrelevant because you are not personally into it. And come on man, Avatar is not relevant at all. It is probably the least relevant main-UB thing. Not counting UBs of shit like evil dead.
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>>96875009
And so is Avatar so I don't get your point here.
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>>96874992
its not acceptable UB its approved UB
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>>96875026
I'm very sorry you got burned speculating on Spiderman. Get a real job, buddy.
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>>96873571
>TQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7FU_mqhFGk
No infinite turns or stalemate recommendations
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>>96874456
>There are multiple free counterspells not on the GC list, and you think "actively fuck yourself over" deserves to be one?

which ones should be on gc list?
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>>96875001
>The art looks like cartoons.
I bet you run picrel and wont shut up about it
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>>96875035
I am sorry you are upset people aren't interested in your dead cartoon from 20 years ago. Not all of us are under 30.
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Would this silver borded card be fine in commander?

draw 3 for that cost is strong, but unlike other formats commander is singleton so its harder to guess.


however people pointed out that:
>>96874963
>>ancestral recall but only if you have brainstorm in hand
>eh
>>96874980
>Yes. It would be banned in legacy and modern and would severely limit the ability to print cheap surveil/scry in standard. Probably restricted in Vintage.
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>>96875043
Nope. Swing and a miss. Try again, slop-boy.
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>>96874999
Because it's primitive and forgoes any attempt to rise above our instincts and solve the underlying problems the tribalism distracts us from.
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>>96875052
Probably not. There are a ton of cards that let you scry and surveil.
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>>96873687
Thematically fitting or adjacent is entirely opinion based. I don't think Avatar fits at all.
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I don't disagree with bro about the flood of product being annoying and less
>MTG sanctity
Just the way he refutes and argues is shitty and not succinct.
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>>96875078
No one knows what you are talking about
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>>96875058
I fail to see how that is relevant to UB
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>>96875052
If it shuffled first sure
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>>96875052
>Would this silver borded card be fine in commander?
Yes.
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>>96875040
Deflecting Swat oughta be put back on it for sure, and I've always thought it was weird that force of negation isn't on it.
Mind you I LIKE counterspells, but free ones are obvious bullshit for the same reason that aggro creatures like emberheart challenger that replace themselves are obvious bullshit; that it negates the proper counterplay to the tactic that uses that spell. Pact of negation is just about tolerable since you can't use it early and it still has a mana cost, just a delayed one.
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>>96875052
It would be ran in every cEDH deck
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>>96875122
cEDH is utterly irrelevant to any discussion on bans and unbans and cards being allowed. Casual format. Do not make changes for fucking cEDH
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>>96875052
>would ancestral recall as long as you have a fetch land in hand and a surveil/scry land in your deck be fine
it would be an extremely good card in a large number of decks. the fact that you can't hit lands with it goes some way to alleviating the bullshit, though.
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>>96875147
Would it be more powerful than any currently unbanned card?
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>>96875155
>Would Ancestral Recall be stronger than-
Yes
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>>96875155
No, it doesn't go in literally everything that can run it.
It's good but unreliable in the average deck- it'd still be hugely played, but mystic remora is more widely playable.
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>>96875161
Time to ban this power house. Don't pretend 20 cards in a graveyard is some rare thing in a 4 person game.
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>>96875155
It's worse than Rhystic Study because commander becomes a 3v1 when you try to win. Rhystic's scaling is much better.
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>>96875179
it's rare before turn 3 where the rate matters. even then, if someone has 20 in yard they're already crazy ahead.
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>>96873719
Shit card, mentally ill poster
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>>96873598
Thanks for the 6 life bro. *holds up knuckles for you to pound*
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>>96873571
>TQ:
https://youtu.be/VoAfb3f04mo
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>>96873591
You pissbabies had 5+ years to fuck off. You didn't stop consooming when they dropped TWD. You didn't stop when they dropped LOTR. You didn't stop with Dr. Who. You didn't stop with Fallout. You didn't stop when the SLDs filled up with SpongeBob and MLP and Street Fighter. And you're not stopping now when UB is half the game.

No pity for you whiny do nothing faggots. I hope the whole game becomes UB and I hope this continues to make antiUB fags cry and seethe.
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>>96875246
>buy in-universe sets
>don't buy UB
>somehow I'm the problem and not the people buying UB
lol
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>>96874673
That seems pretty strong
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>>96875246
I don't buy any UB or SLD cards.
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I only buy UB cards anymore, tired of Gayce and Trandra
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>>96875017
The Walking Dead at that point was on its second to last season with a sliver of its old viewership. Basically a zombie show.
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>>96875246
I literally did. 2020 was the last year U bought any wotc product. No sealed, no draft, no packs, no singles, hell not even dnd.
Turns out when you have a decent collection you can still build a shitload of new decks without new cards
I'm just finishing up u/w daxos atm
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>>96875036
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>>96875323
And the other several shows?
Can you post ratings? Also can you compare those ratings to avatars when it was airing?
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What commander for running silly spells? Spells as in instant/sorceries, and I am not talking warpworld type stuff I wanna ruin my friends but not murder their families
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>>96875376
The Simpsons still gets rated 7+ everywhere and it's a zombie show, not really an "erm... gotcha!"
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>>96875389
>I don't like it so it is dead
Yeah, we covered this.
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>>96875245
Complete with his whip
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>>96875082
I do and he's right anon is a retard and still can't argue to save his life at least he stopped using breaking bad as a point of refrence
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>>96875397
I don't get it.
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>>96875379
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>>96875379
Get her when she comes out
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>>96875179
>Setup is "20 cards in grave"
>VS setup is "1/20 lands in your hand"
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>>96875405
I can't play that card because Azula was never Fire Lord
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>>96875346
we know
you are on edhg 24/7 being a little bitch
everyone already knows all this shit about you
go write your memoir elsewhere
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>>96875405
How is this a silly spell commander? Seems much more like a combat trick commander.
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>>96875390
>wah wah spoonfeed me, I'm gonna defend a baffling non-fantasy UB for no reason even if you like some UBs
Fine, here https://imgur.com/a/HKYscxB
This pattern continues throughout each season btw
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>>96875413
Yes she was briefly after Ozai crowned himself Phoenix King
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>>96875415
>uhhh this board doesn't agree
Sure did agree with him 1 month ago when it was unapproved UB. Don't give people conflicting vibes
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>>96875418
I mean you can cast pretty much anything with it, if you have stuff like Buster Sword she even doubles the spells cast with that
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>>96875425
She wasn't. She was going to be coronated in the final episode, Zuko shows up, interrupts the coronation, literally says "you're not going to become fire lord today, I am!", they try to crown her, she refuses, and says she will fight Zuko for it

You can literally watch it on Youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRkI15fIJ1w
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>>96875433
Ok but why not any other spellsling commander? Why not the attraction bitch or that izzet precon cunt from OTJ that two card combos with herself?
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>>96875437
Damn I stand corrected!

>>96875442
I mean yeah you can run any spellslinger you want, i just gave a recommendation for a new one that i thought seemed pretty cool
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>>96875437
Both her and Zuko have Fire Lord cards and The Last Angi Kai goes right in the middle of their borderless card art. I guess what they were going for is that they're both the Fire Lords until someone takes the title for themselves.
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>>96875462
>Damn I stand corrected!
You cannot imagine the relief I felt when I saw your reply wasn't "ummm actually she was fire lord in her own mind, okay????"
Retard troll must have left the thread for a while
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>>96875481
Now that's binder bait.
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>>96875481
Man that art looks so fucking bad if you don't have all 3 lined up

Also I'm still bothered that Azula isn't mardu. It's WotC slipping into "white is good guys" shit again. Azula and Ozai are both mardu as fuck, they are running an empire, they believe in order and a twisted form of justice.
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>>96875499
Azula doesn't believe in order or really anything at all, she's purely acting out of self-interest and petty impulses.
>b-but in the horrible comics that ruin the entire series she-...
I don't care!
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>>96875462
>I like this franchise so I suggested it
ftfy
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>>96875499
I guess they're riding on the hatred aspect of Grixis or they just like UB thing of making the evil faction Grixis
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>>96875520
>the girl whose entire life has been as a princess and a general does not believe in order
Wrong bucko. She has so many parallels with Marchesa.
>inb4 "she only believes in order if she's top of the hierarchy!!!"
Like Marchesa.

>>96875526
Yeah grixis has been le super villain colors since Bolas and it's fucking infuriating.

I dunno man. Part of why they didn't want to give her white is probably that they assigned white to airbending as well. There's a flavor touch that Zuko's cards before he is redeemed don't have white, but when he is he does. So you could say that's like Aangs influence on him or something.
Still though, I can't help but feel Nickelodeon in particular views black as the "bad guy" color and white as the "good guy" color and really doesn't want to have their heroes have black or villains have white
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>>96874048
Having played the set the Gryffindor analogs were Silverquill and the Slytherin analogs being the Witherbloom as they frequently commune with demons.
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>>96875558
She really doesn't though.
She believes in power, she wants to dominate others and be able to inflict upon them without consequence, but she couldn't care less if the fire nation overall descended into chaos or even persisted beyond her own lifespan.
Ozai believed in order, he wanted an eternal legacy by creating a timeless hierarchy where his empire dominates the world forever, but Azula really had no such ambitions beyond wanting to flatter herself with the title of Fire Lord and the privileges it bestows.
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>firebending is R
>waterbending is U
>airbending is W
>earthbending is G
>metalbending is G
Why does B not get anything? Waterbending is on all colors of cards even B apparently. How does this make sense? I don't know anything about Avatar btw, I just can't understand why B gets no bending. I mean there's a card that references bloodbending, but it has waterbending. What the heck!
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>>96874403
They are not house they are more like fields of study. Mark said they accidentally made the set too American which is why there is confusion.
Each school was based on different Majors.
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>>96875601
>White is the good guys
>Black is the bad guys
Bravo WotC you really showing off this moral verisimilitude with the color pie.
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>>96875638
>Another izzet faction full of homosexual men, led by a homosexual dragon
THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
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>>96875558
>>96875558
>She has so many parallels with Marchesa.
Marchesa has more cards pointing towards her being Grixis than Mardu.
Even if you want to say that Marchesa gained White specifically while she was ruling, that's also a point against Azula being Mardu. Azula didn't even officially hold the throne, let alone have it long enough to deal with it in an orderly way.

And even if she had, simply being a monarch isn't enough to not be Grixis. The actual shard of Grixis should be proof enough of that.
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>>96875629
Black is eeeeeeevil so it has no place in bending because Aang can do all 4
Literally the reason.

We had a whole argument on here about in the original lore the avatar was the world spirit which is literally the spirit of the planet in human form so really should be all 5 colors in Magic philosophy. But people get too caught up in over emphasising the negative traits for black and don’t really appreciate that 5 represents balance which is the entire purpose of the avatar and the message of the show.
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>>96874547
It's based on American colleges. American colleges have their own dedicated football that are expected to play against other colleges. In most U.S. states the top wage earners are college coaches.
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>>96875629
>bloodbending, but it has waterbending.
Bloodbending is a subcategory of waterbending, just like how metalbending is a type of earthbending.
There are 5 colors and 4 elements, so there's a mismatch no matter what.

The closes thing they could do to line it up would be to lean on spirits to give Black something else.
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>>96875603
Tell me where in white’s philosophy you have to believe in institutions surviving you?
The orzhov guild literally has immortality through spirits precisely so they can rule eternally, but I don’t think anyone there would give a shit about the institution past the point it benefits them.
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>>96875648
>Even if you want to say that Marchesa gained White specifically while she was ruling, that's also a point against Azula being Mardu. Azula didn't even officially hold the throne, let alone have it long enough to deal with it in an orderly way.
Azula was a princess from birth, she was part of a monarchy. Are you stupid?
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>>96875695
>title determines color identity
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>>96875684
I was just varying ways in which she has no relation to any kind of order, whether in her lifetime or beyond it.

>>96875695
There's like a billion non-white kings in Magic, being born into a royal bloodline doesn't automatically make a character aligned with white mana and beyond her titles she really has no other white mana traits at all.
She's one of the most chaos-aligned characters in the entire show, if anything.
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>>96875638
>lorehold
>boros
>law degree
That’s the problem with them being enemy ours, cos a law has always been azorius. But even MaRo doesnt understand his own color philosophy because orzhov would be the next best color pie for a law degree before fucking boros. Chaos and passion have no place in law at all
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>>96875704
>>96875723
You know just because a card has “king” in the title doesn’t mean they’re literally part of a monarchy right?
Azula is a princess in an empire, it’s completely different to be fucking “king of traitors” whatever that even means
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>>96875736
>You know just because a card has “king” in the title doesn’t mean they’re literally part of a monarchy right?
You do know Sedris is the rightful monarch, right?

But surely there are no other monarchs across MtG that don't include White, right?
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>>96875736
Don't reply to me if you're gonna ignore all of my points you lazy faggot.
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>>96875724
>cos a law has always been azorius
eh it's also been orzhov when it's applying the letter of the law rather than the spirit of it, especially when done in cruel or unjust ways. All the asshole shit the Orzhov do is perfectly legal, it's just legal usury and debt slavery.
when he says law I'm assuming he means more Phoenix Wright as passionate defense attorney genuinely upholding the spirit of the law in good faith, rather than Azorious autism or Orzhov scummy bureaucracy. If I Phoenix Wright was a Magic card I'd argue he'd be Jeskai.

Then again I think most of those lists are kind of shit in general, Silverquill and Lorehold are given way too much overlap, let's be honest you should be throwing the History majors and English majors together in the same college. Communications and Poly Sci likewise, come on those are all "I'm a football quarterback required to pick a major" options
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>>96875736
Sedris is a King who is a traitor and feudalism is Green.
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>>96875753
You might not want to post an Eldraine card when the entire point of that set is that each color gets a kingdom but Kenrith is king of them all and is white
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>>96875803
>each color gets a kingdom
I accept your concession. Have a completely different Blue/Black Princess as a bonus
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>>96875815
Yeah just read literally half a sentence that’s fine
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>>96875841
>Yeah
Yep.
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Liberal democracy is grixis.
Fascism is boros.
National socialism is azorius.
Absolute monarchy is white.
Communism is rakdos.
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>>96875861
gruul are anarcho primitivist chads
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>"you guys mind if I play a proxy deck"
>everyone OKs it
>it's 5 color jodah with all the OG duals and 15 gamechangers (that I saw)
>every card has a different name and AI art so no one recognizes anything he's doing
>has drawn/played half his deck on turn 6
>it's bracket 3
Every fucking time. Please stop letting these retards play with these ugly AI slop commanders decks. None of these proxyfags can stop themselves from going dipshit crazy.
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>>96875874
I would say pure green maybe.
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>>96875886
pure green is even more extreme than anprim, it's "sentience was a mistake, RETURN TO MONKE"
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>>96875861
Racism is monoblack
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>>96875861
liberal democracy is azorius pretty much by definition
azorius guildies love their pointless and retarded adherence to law at the expense of good decisions
communism is golgari and fascism is rakdos.

>>96875899
Racism is mono blue, as befits the colour which owns card #1488

>>96875874
gruul is the definition of return to monke
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>>96873571
>TQ
Here’s one from my generic ‘doing housework’ playlist I’ll sometimes listen to while brewing / updating decks
https://youtu.be/NUEKd1LU7Do?si=27LFurdADE7H3X3u
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>>96875905
It's mono black because the loudest racists are always mixed race Americans and Indians
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>>96875897
Pure green is so tits. I love it.
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>>96875861
Feds are dimir
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>>96875905
I was talking about the broader themes of those color combinations moreso than the specific guilds on ravnica.
Democracy is grixis because it's an unstable, innately destructive and self-destructive ideology that rewards psychopathy as its highest virtue, but nonetheless facilitates innovation at least during its brief peaks.
It's quintessentially rakdos + blue.
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>>96875861
>fascism isn't black
lmao. Orzhov is fascism.
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>>96875931
Why?
>th-they killed ppl and were le mean!!
So are factions of all the colors, white in particular actually.
Italian fascism was characterized by being both an invasive, totalitarian state but also led by a group hot-headed, politically innovative idealists and romantics who were a bit in over their heads at times. It was perfectly boros.
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>>96875930
Democracy has led to prolonged areas of peace and cooperation
it's Fascism that's inherently self destructive that rewards psychopathy as it's highest virtue

Remember both Nazi Germany and Japan had as one of their biggest issues that everyone kept backstabbing and betraying each other all the time,

Meanwhile it was the UK who ensured the loyalty of it's people through it's innate values
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>>96875415
I've never posted about daxos before, it's not even ready to be shared
Meds. Now.
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>>96875960
You know it's funny you bring that up because I was writing an original story about a dystopia perpetuated by an open democracy (your votes are public) leading to tyranny of the majority where one demographic held all the power (no, it was NOT an analogy for white people).
A piece of criticism I got was that it was unrealistic because democracies were fundamentally incorruptible because the oppressed demographics could just vote for their own interests, despite the fact I spent a huge part of the story outlining why doing that in an open voting system was suicide because it would instantly be labeled as treason.

Unironically not related. Just a tangent I'm going on because creative writing has really opened my eyes to how a lot of people completely lack media literacy.
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>>96875931
Orzhov is judaism, it's literally usury the faction
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>>96875998
oh sure, which is also one of the reasons why secret ballots are such a cornerstone of the modern democracy and why if you want to preserve the (relative) functionality you need to defend liberties like that
same with how anyone regardless if they benefit from it or not, should oppose any attempts to make one of the branches of government subservient to another and one should be incredibly wary of any emergency powers

democracy works, but only as long as we keep it working
the irony though of fascism is that usually it's the end state of a democracy which has been subverted by malicious entities, exhibiting all the worst traits a bad democracy has but ramped up to extreme levels
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>>96875998
Open voting systems and their flaws are quite documented. Here on Brazil, during the early republican period, local oligarchs essentially taught most of their workers and tenants to read (in the most basic sense of "you can identify what candidate to mark on the ballot and sign your name in it") and then forced them to vote for the candidates they wanted via the threat of violence and/or expulsion. It's quite an exploitable system.
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Can somebody redpill me on pic rel in the command zone? Seems like fun.
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>>96873897
Arwen (cmc 3, the 2G is a red herring)
Glorfindel
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>>96874709
I think they prioritize UBs which have Vehicles/Spacecraft
Maro is just desperate for vehicles to be heckin' cool after Aetherdrift
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>>96876152
I find it highly unlikely it's MaRo doing the choices of UB and not some suit.
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>>96876152
Vehicles and crewing will always be underpowered shit for the extra steps involved
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>>96875815
Waaaooow, now THAT is a commander. I built this with whatever bulk I had lying around and its a bracket 3 deck because I know all the secret tech to run with that commanders ability. UB tourists will bever understand this
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>>96876152
>I think they prioritize UBs which have Vehicles/Spacecraft
we got spider-man and teenage mutant ninja turtles back to back so idk how true that really is
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Omw home from my LGS, had a bunch of fun games tonight. Will post what they were when I get home.
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>>96876177
I know this is a shitpost but if you're playing with shitters a mana dork is actually really good since you just play goodstuff.dec in the 99 and roll over timmies fantasizing about their big payoff commander who's gonna get pathed instantly when played
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>>96876183
Keep it to the discord faggot
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>>96876173
There have been plenty of good vehicles, it's just that the good ones typically do something important even if they haven't been crewed or have extremely low crew requirements
crewing itself is underpowered though yeah
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>>96876207
I mean it's fundamentally a limiting mechanic. It's like those artifacts that turn into creatures when you spend mana on them.
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>>96875861
Fascism is white.
Inherited monarchy is green.
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>>96876207
Station is what Crew wishes it could be, especially since you can do stuff like use a high-powered Warp creature to Station a spacecraft the turn it comes in when it still has summoning sickness. And even then most of them are ass
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>>96876152
I'm pretty sure all IPs have vehicles.
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>>96876211
I mean yes and no
if you view it as an ability of a creature, yes
if you view it as an ability of an artifact, no

Unlicensed hearse would be an okay card even without the vehicle effect; with the effect it becomes a seriously lethal weapon.
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>>96875499
I disagree with Mardu. She embodies the mad genius of Izzet, the cruelty and love for spectacle of Rakdos and the brutal cunning of Dimir - Grixis is the perfect fit for her.

Plus, it might be a bit of a low hanging fruit/stereotype but the Fire Nation is by and large the most technologically motivated of the nation's and they leans in well to Blue's heavy association with artifacts.
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>>96876228
>And even then most of them are ass
To be fair, that's mostly because almost all the station cards are just chaff, Very few of them have effects worth putting in the effort for. Several are practically just creatures with a downside.
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>>96875932
This but black lotus
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>>96876246
>tap ten food/clue/treasure tokens
>steal somebody's turn for 4 mana
yeah this is definitely gonna be fun to play but will also cause astronomical butthurt despite being extremely telegraphed
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Quenchy cabbage
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>>96875558
It's very obvious why Grixis is a color associated with villains. It is Black's unbridled lust for power and disregard for others, married with the cunning and vast knowledge of Blue and the destructive power and burning passion of Red. Of fucking course you'll find plenty of villains in it. These are all the most archetypical villainous qualities!
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>>96876256
it's not really telegraphed though
if you're an artifact token deck having a bunch of them out is just what you do anyway, whether or not that turns into "emrakul except they don't get an extra turn" or anything else is pure luck of the draw
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>>96875558
nigga have you SEEN what the shard grixis looks like? skeletor is calling up his damn realtor looking to buy in
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>>96876246
>>96876256
>>96876266
nvm I misread that, you only control them during their COMBAT phase
card is dogshit who cares
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>>96876304
no, I misread again
I need to go to fucking bed
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>>96876304
if you do the waterbend cost then you do control them during their entire turn
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>>96876308
>>96876304
lmao
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>>96876202
>the discord
/edhg/ has a discord?
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>>96875558
>Yeah grixis has been le super villain colors since Bolas and it's fucking infuriating.
grixis has been a miserable shithole hellscape since its introduction.
The entire plot of the plane is that since it has NO green or white mana, there's a finite amount of life force on the plane and everyone has just been relentlessly cannibalizing and siphoning what's left in a death spiral of misery and necromancy since alara was sundered.

The first thing Grixis did when the shards were merged was immediately pour zombie hordes into the other planes trying to devour them
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>>96874964
Tranime incel shit, why do they always focus on kids? They just love to groom and sexualise children.
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>>96876261
As we all know there were very few villains (okay, people widely labeled as villains, Protagoras) throughout history that had a populist (white) perspective.
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>>96876347
>tranime
no such thing
Those faggots try to steal it for themselves.
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>>96876347
t. pedo
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___ with firebending student
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>>96876347
>see girl
>not even in provocative clothes or anything, just a girl
>WTF WHY DO THEY WANT TO FUCK HER???????
telling in yourself a bit m8
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>>96876461
>didn't post the one with her highly detailed foot pushing through the frame
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>>96876461
wrong art bro
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>>96876572
this is fake because wotc doesn't make sexy lady cards with skin showing
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>>96876593
they do but only for UB shit nowadays because the original IP holders demand they not make shit fucking ugly
same reason FF cards can look like pic related
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>>96876616
meanwhile for in-house mtg these are the instructions given to artists
it's not that they can't draw attractive characters, they're literally ordered NOT to
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>>96876624
I find it endlessly hilarious that giving guidance to IRL human artists is exactly the same as prompting AI, having to reference the same detail over and over to get them to internalise it.
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>>96876624
the problem here is the artist, not the direction. they chose to make him look like a fucking doofus. you can make overweight male characters look cool
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>>96876692
this
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>>96875861
>im 12 and I like politics guise
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I got accussed of playing a cEDH deck for casting summon leviathan
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>>96876736
I get accused of playing cEDH when I break out my Krenko deck
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>One of the most emotional moments from the show
>Literally just random shit thrown together in green identity
This card makes me irrationally angry.
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>>96876624
>>96876616
>>96876572
They should change UB to mean Unmolested Beauty and UW to mean Ugliness Within because that's really what these sets are now. Even a capeshitter set from a hyper woke company made sure to have character's SEXO maintained.

I genuinely don't understand how anyone can unironically hate UB for "ruining magic" when for nearly a decade now Magic has been about portraying urbanite coastal city bug people and progressive left wing proselytizing. Imagine saying UW is superior to UB and that UB has made magic lose its way with a straight face when UB had nothing to do with character creation like fat TRANSit Mage punk rocker or non-binary space ship Sami or designated Boardroom Approved Mascot Character #3733 Loot mincing around stories with literal gay dragons and crashing out at deadnaming.
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>>96876749
>NOOOO MY SLOPPA ISN'T REPRESENTED RIIIIGHT
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>>96876749
the food token is offerings left on his son's grave. "draw a card if there's a lesson in your graveyard" is Iroh literally learning from his son's death, that was the "lesson" that taught him to cherish life more and retire from his rampaging dragon of the west days. the +1 counters are the only iffy bit but you could easily see that as him helping be a mentor figure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f56Cbjwwv-E
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>>96876769
I think he helps 2 people turn their lives around throughout the episode and that's that the +1/+1 counters are?
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>>96876774
oh right as he's going through town he's helping people before arriving at his son's grave
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/edhg/ - 20 year old cartoon general
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fire nation did nothing wrong btw hippie niggers have got to learn to be civilised one way or another
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>>96876783
Always has been
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>>96876798
this comic has always been dumb
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Wake me up when we get Dragon Ball
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>>96876785
>t.Ozai
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Nice triome you got there faggot
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>we would never make a format staple a mythic rare!
>a year later
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>>96876821
this is garbage
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>>96876831
I'll put all the nonbasic land hate I can in a deck just to make people seethe
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>>96876461
So creepy, just gives me the chills when I know how tranime incels are going to be Gooning to these pictures of children.
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>>96876831
nonbasic destruction with no replacement is actually pretty uncommon. four mana is the same as Demolish
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>>96876836
>sees child
>immediately thinks of cock
what did he mean by this?
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>>96876692
That's an accurate depiction of fat people though
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>>96876805
And surprisingly accurate in its depiction of where magic is at.
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>>96876838
Run it if you want bro. It's shit. 4 mana is way too much.
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>>96876835
>I'll put all the nonbasic land hate I can in a deck just to make people seethe
I wish wotc would print another dozen blood moon effects, nothing better than hard countering somebody with a several thousand dollar mana base with a single card
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>>96876193
>I know this is a shitpost but if you're playing with shitters a mana dork is actually really good
Lord and savior red death wins.
> but muh ub
Dont care, this crabby boy is based af
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>>96875481
I want to make an azula deck but im struggling to think of good shit in grixis
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>>96876841
You tranime loli loving creeps bend and twist everything. Just leave this hobby, maybe you can play some Troon slop like lorcana or pokemon.
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>>96876856
hey I'm not the one that thought of niggas gooning anon that's all on you
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>>96876852
I didn't even realize this was a fallout card until now since I never checked the set symbol, I assumed he was a big crab from the pirate set or some shit
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>>96876856
>troontroontroontroon
Can /pol/tards say anything else?
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>>96876848
Hell yeah!
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>>96876856
>tranny obsession out of nowhere
It's past your bedtime, american pig
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/edhg/ is finally dead, I can rest now
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>>96876783
>20 year old cartoon set bad and you're all a bunch of nostalgic manchildren stuck in the past! I want sets based on planes and magic characters that were introduced 20 years ago!
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>>96876838
Meanwhile you can remove all the greedpile lands for the same mana.
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>>96876863
Thats partly what I love about Red Death. I dont know the character from Fallout but he looks like a crab from MTG, the effectbis cool. Even the flavor text feels like it could even be from Mercadian Masques or something.
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>>96876940
oink oink
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>>96876960
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>>96876749
these are a million times better than the shitty spiderman ones that were all rares for some reason
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>>96876940
I never liked planeswalkers being cards. I WAS the planewalker.
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Im having writers block.
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>>96877060
because it is based on one of the greatest tv shows of all time. Up there with the Sopranos
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>>96876750
Outside the characters and some planes, most of the rest of the aesthetic of UW has stuck to a general fantasy theme. Even something like Duskmourn still feels and fits better than other sets like Aetherdrift and Edge. Spider-Man definitely has better humanoid character design than most UW sets (only recent one that comes to mind as being better than average is Dragonstorm), but Jesus Christ everything else about it just does not look or feel like Magic. For instance, if they made a UW version of Flash Thompson I would replace Village Bell-Ringer for it in a heartbeat because I like the card’s effect but there is no way in hell I’d get him as he is now because New York does not feel or look like Magic in any way, shape or form. And as apathetic as I am towards LA (never cared about it as a kid or adult), that looks more like Magic than Aetherdrift or Edge does.
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>>96876624
Its only ok to have fat characters when they are goblins or the like.
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>>96876750
>They should change UB to mean Unmolested Beauty
Many such cases
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>>96877249
absolute flavour win, that art really does match "Generated"
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>>96874812
>made a shitty lesson instead
Octopus form is one of the lessons we see Katara teaching Aang, called out by name.
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>>96874775
Hexproof....in blue???
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I feel like a lot of UB sets end up being very self-contained. They all have some tribal support, and some niche keywords that mostly make sense inside the set.

Who had time counter support which is pretty narrow. I guess artifact spam from it was more wide usage. Weird time lord and dalek tribal.

Spider was obviously tribal around heroes/villains. Spiders have _some_ uw support. Set barely had mechanics worth noting.

FF mechanics were pretty varied I guess which is why it did well in part. Landfall slop is very much supported in commander nowadays. Vivi supplanting niv mizzet as well lol.
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>>96877274
her lower legs are too short
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Commanders that are too swole to control?
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Good way to give opponents my artifacts in boros?
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>>96876749
>Draw a card if your son is dead and you learned your lesson
Nigga this is super flavorful what are you on
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>>96876749
>lose something
>create a food (offering)
>mentor/buff two creatures (Iroh and Zuko)
>literally draw a card if your son is dead and you learned a LESSON
holy shit dude you're autistic but this is perfect, you're just mad it isn't a staple.
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>>96876624
This is the top1 most repulsive character art on a magic card I've seen.
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As someone who is relatively new, what's the strat for stuff like Mana Vault, Grim Monolith, Basalt Monolith, and so on? Do you play them as a single use high power burst, or do you actually pay the untap cost at times?
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>>96877758
>or do you actually pay the untap cost at times?
Hahahaha no.
You cheat a way to untap it and go infinite.
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>>96877767
That's what I figured. Basically you just use them to either immediately fire off (mana vault, grim), or you use them to bank a fuckload of mana for next turn?
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>>96877776
As soon as you have the untap cost lower than the amount of mana produced, it goes infinite and you win somehow
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>>96877758
Mana Vault and Grim Monolith are commonly used as a burst of mana, although there are ways to untap them for free or even combo with them. Basalt Monolith is rarely used outside of infinite combos.
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>>96877785
>>96877786
>tfw my LGS forbids infinites in their sanctioned events
The tech with Voltaic Key and Rings of Brighthearth seems cool, but I guess I can still use vault and the monoliths to get a huge next turn (or burst on the same turn).
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>>96877796
In fairness, going infinite is piss-easy in this game and if it wasn't complete shit they'd have a rule that a card effect can only trigger/be activated so many times per turn. If they set it to something relatively high like 6, it wouldn't be that difficult to keep track of because you'd know if you're likely to hit 6 in a turn and only start counting then
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>>96877279
Okay, and? Does that mean it can't be an octopus umbra reprint? Does that mean reprinting Shore Up as a lesson was somehow right thing to do?
I swear to god, you autists get hyperfixated on the tiniest details and treat them as a justification without even thinking about it

>this card is dumb, there was already something in-game that captured the idea of taking on the form of an octopus and all they did instead was reprint a common with an extra card type
>"errrrrm well it was a lesson in the show so it makes sense for it to be a lesson!!!!!"
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>>96876940
>I want sets based on planes and magic characters that were introduced 20 years ago!
Eldraine is my favorite plane though
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Now that Boros has been officially good for years, what is the worst color combo?
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>>96877860
>set has a Lesson theme
>this was a lesson
>WHY IS IT A LESSON AND NOT A REPRINT OF A BAD CARD????
you're such a fucking retard
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>>96877870
Anon, there being lessons in the show and lessons on cards does not de fact justify printing something as a lesson. If it had been a new aura you wouldn't fucking blink twice. You'd just think
>I guess they had to learn it, but it makes sense that once you learn something you can just do it

Secondly, as I already told you, even if you're wedded to the fucking idea of it being a lesson, why is it just a fucking reprint of a bulk common? It's not flavorful at all. It's a very generic effect, as can be seen by the wild variety in the types of blue cards that do similar (or in the case of Shore Up, exactly the same) things

Finally, Octopus Umbra isn't a bad card and I'm sorry you're bad at evaluating Magic cards. I hope that you are just very new and inexperienced.
>inb4 "BUT IT ISN'T LE HECKIN BROKEN SCRIMBLO LIKE DIS OTHER CARD!!!!"
Yeah, it's not. It only really shines in particular decks, but making a base 8/8 with that taps down on attack and has totem armor is actually a good rate for 5 mana, especially in blue where the design philosophy for the longest time was that blue creatures had to have bad stats for their mana value
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>>96877868
Orzhov is terrible in every way.
No fun to brew, no fun to play against. Boring as fuck at a casual level and the worst color combo at a competitive level. Just nothing going for it at all.
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>>96877901
>Orzhov is terrible in every way.
>No fun to brew, no fun to play against
That's where you're wrong, bucko
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>>96877868
Orzhov gets by vote. Boros was redeemed solely by Lightning because holy shit she is fun as a commander. She needs basically only a little setup to get into assbeater mode.
>tutor or draw Nazahn for her
>free equipping AND indestructible
>go around beating the shit out of people
>politic it as well by telling people I'll whack the current threat and allow everyone else to do x2 (or higher) damage to them
>get to become practically immortal due to the sword of butt and fuck being equipped
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>>96877868
>what is the worst color combo?
It's azorius. I have loads of ideas azorius decks but that's because I like doing weird things with them. They don't have strong win cons and stall is a very necessary part of the strategy. The colors get so much better once rolled into esper or bant
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>>96877868
>all these who got filtered by white + blue/black
I swear people just want to shuffle and look at starting hands rather than play
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>>96877964
>Azorius
>bad
Not when my man Augustin exists.
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>>96877801
>going infinite is piss-easy in this game and if it wasn't complete shit
This whole game is about becoming an infinitely powerful wizard and obliterating your opponents with your spell and creatures, with several spells depicting individuals in universe gaining or having infinite power or wisdom. If you don't like the fact that the gameplay reflects this, you literally do not like this game and should quit, immediately.
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>>96878018
But how am I going to DO THE THING if you go infinite on turn 2?
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>>96878018
>with several spells depicting individuals in universe gaining or having infinite power or wisdom.
Oh which spells would those be, anon? The really high mana ones? Like Omniscience and One With The Multiverse?

Why don't they print that on cards like pic related then if the objective of the game is to go infinite? Going infinite for 3 mana was the intent of the game right?
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>>96878004
What is your wincon?
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>>96878055
>win... con...?
Anyway, I cast counterspell.
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>>96878051
stop being retarded
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>>96878072
???
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>>96878066
whoa constipated snake
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>>96878055
I get everyone to scoop due to torturing them for 3 hours.
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>>96878062
>his control play style is counter heavy
Lol, lmao even.
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>>96878055
I generally drop picrel once I have so many taxes up that they literally do not have enough mana in their deck to do more than one thing per turn.
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Which one, /edhg/ ?
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>>96878164
Do you like Storm or Wheels? You can also make Kykar a Vehicle deck.
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Who's the best vehicle commander these days, out of curiosity?
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>>96878208
shorikai no contest
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>>96878208
I'm biased
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>>96878194
How boring is playing against storm, actually?

The thing is, I have a Kalamax deck that isn't popping off as much as I like. So I thought about transforming it into Kykar, which seems more like my playstyle.

I was thinking of building a noncreature tribal, which would beat opponents ussing my buffed spirits (gaining advantage with cards like reconnaissance mission, bident of thassa, skullclamp) and then polymorph the spirits into wincons or serious threats.

But then I remembered The Locust God. And I was thinking if that approach would be possible with it, since I've got many decks with white in it.
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I just realized that EOE had neither of the following:
A living planet that becomes a land creature at high enough station
A mothership/carrier spacecraft designed around summoning other spacecraft and vehicles and temporarily stationing/crewing them

and now I'm sad
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>>96878323
Wait for Starcraft UB
>battlecruiser.: skin of Dawnsire, Sunstar Dreadnough or a new one with less stats
>carrier: summon 1/1 interceptors, crew to summon them again
It needs planets, but i think it can be done
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>>96878323
Never thought about it but you're right and now I'm sad
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>>96878323
you reminded me that star trek will propably fix this and now I'm sad
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now that hybrid mana change is a foregone conclusion what cards have the chance to turn into staples?
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/tg/ I need a new idea for a deck...I'm constantly tearing down and making new decks so i'm running thin. I play with a pod of 6 people on the regular and we ignore brackets but not the banlist.

People I play against are:
-The big dumb creature (attacks players at random) player [Xenagos]
-A million decks with counter spells and cheating creatures being his favorite [kennen, toolbox, korvold, Lier, Kykar, etc]
-Hordes of quality creatures with protection or counterspells to back them up [Lathril, Jodah, Alela]
-Player who MUST give his creatures unblockable in every deck [Ezio, Kenway, peter parker]
-tokens or enchantments player with fine tuned decks [chatterfang, light paws, tidus]


I tend to make decks that "do a thing" not just slap creatures down and turn them sideways as a main strategy.
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>>96878422
None of them idiot
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>>96878433
>-Player who MUST give his creatures unblockable in every deck [Ezio, Kenway, peter parker
Based
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>>96877860
Yes.
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I think I cracked it. people feel the hybrid rule change is bad because it's kinda weird for not going all the way
think about it. the reason to change it is to give everyone more cards because it was the original intent to let people play hybrid in mono decks, but that's not the only mechanic this applies to
for example people keep bringing up phyrexian mana but it's not even that. what I mean is that there are no color restrictions in 60 card formats, at all. you COULD put mana drain in your mono black deck with only swamps and it would be a legal deck, even if you don't have a way to cast it, say, with treasures. there was always the intention that you could play every card in 60 card. winning decks run pact of negation that can't pay the upkeep cost all the time so if they really want to argue about intentions and how color restriction is not a rule in 60 card then I ask you this:
why do this weird half measure in this rules category if you want this 100 card format with it's own rules to be more like another format with different ones?
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>>96877885
>It's not flavorful at all.
u w0t m8
that effects fits the move extremely well
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>>96877868
Selesnya probably
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>>96878459
It's because it's something that wasn't native to magic, so the designers, huge fuckups that have dumpstered all the formats they designed, now need to ruin this one. They are going to get rid of 'identity' and just say 'hey, do what you want, it's 100 card legacy'
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>>96878469
https://moxfield.com/decks/fDdYAKNEG02izfpJ-M8N_Q

I need a finisher for when I get a big minds desire/surge to victory. Something with a higher mana cost, to buff surge, enough to kill in 2 or 3 casts ontop of black mages
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>>96878503
> noooo I hate h*brid cars, fuck the developers, if I see a h*brid car I'll shit and fart
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>>96878515
did you misreply?
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>>96878515
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I understand firebending and earthbending's flavor, but I don't get the others. How does tapping creatures relate to waterbending? And ARTIFACTS? For one of the less technologically developed nations?
And imprisoning permanents to airbending?
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>>96878540
I'm cautious about including draw since I have minds desire and no lab maniac
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>>96878545
Airbending makes sense. Water Im not sure.
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>Hybrid mana will violate the sanctity of the color pie! Red decks shouldn't remove enchantments and green decks shouldn't be able to destroy creatures easily!
>8th and 13th most popular cards in the format are a color pie break
>Colorless cards exist that provide every effect you could ever want anyway
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Is there a way the players can stop WotC from this stupid proposed hybrid mana change or will they force it through no matter what?
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>>96878556
Other runners-up:
>Call Forth the Tempest
>Army of the Damned
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>>96878574
Rachel Weeks and Josh already admitted that its decided
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>>96878459
>I think I cracked it. people feel the hybrid rule change is bad because it's kinda weird for not going all the way
No.
It is bad because it breaks color identity by giving decks access to effects they otherwise wouldn't have.

This has been explained to you repeatedly now.
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>>96878581
Those are great, but I'm looking to finish the game without building a huge board - though, would it be more fun to let the otherside board wipe if they could?
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>>96878540
Am I wrong to say that effect is actually incredibly underwhelming on a fucking 8 mana mythic? Like sure it does a lot, but it does lots of little things that aren't winning games instead of just doing 1 big thing
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>>96878574
It has already happened, they're just soft announcing it to the community like this on the off chance there's a massive sperg-out
The only way to stop it would have been a Final Bans of the RC style freak out
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>>96878600
>Rachel Weeks
i hate that stupid bitch
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>>96878600
Where?
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>>96878619
I thought you wanted surge to victory finishers? What the fuck are you doing if not building a big board to swing out with surge? These cards are there to give your dweebs +8/+0 and a balmor proc so you can pummel the local selesnya player into submission (don't worry, they've got a raging erection under the table from this)
>>96878621
It's there to pitch to yard and be the beneficiary from mizzix's mastery or surge to victory or something, not to be hardcast.
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>>96878642
I made it the fuck up
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>>96878644
>It's there to pitch to yard and be the beneficiary from mizzix's mastery or surge to victory or something, not to be hardcast.
No but even then. Like where and how you cast it is irrelevant. Fact still remains its an 8 mana spell and it's a mythic, and yet its basically four 2 mana spells in a trench coat
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>>96873571
>songshit tq
Miss me with that.
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>>96878628
>>96878600
Great, so now every deck including mono-color can be WUBRG. This shit is lamer even than the creation of the bracket system.
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>>96878656
It being an 8 mana spell doesn't actually matter if you aren't casting it for 8 mana, which you won't, because its job is to make you a treasure token and sit in the graveyard until you recur it from some other effect. You think this card is four two mana spells in a trenchcoat but what it really is is Strike it Rich plus a possible win condition
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>>96878631
From my limited exposure she seems like she actually plays edh which makes her an anomaly for the RC and youtube in general.
It's a low bar but that puts her in high tier for me
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>>96878628
Why do they want to kill the format like this? It's so stupid and needless, like an unforced error
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>>96878503
This! EDH was so great precisely because wotc had nothing to do with it. Nadu, Oko, Vivi and their ilk have proven the people in charge of RnD are complete shitters who don't have a clue what they're doing? What are their reasons for pushing the hybrid mana bullshit out of the blue like this?
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>>96878696
MaRo is upset that edh ate companion's lunch a decade before it ever saw the light of day.
Never underestimate the pettiness of someone with a track record like his.
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>>96878616
8th most popular card in the format is a pie break by today's standards.
13th most popular card is a direct pie break.
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>>96878708
I agree! The format was much better when you sat down at the table and the Kinnan, Korvold, and Jacques Le Vert said they were 7s, then you were the fucking retard for thinking there would be a power mismatch.
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The color pie isn't specialization, its relative strength at specific things. White having access to a second combat phase isn't a pie break though, because white already does combat trick stuff and cares about combats.
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>>96878746
see? This is the kind of autistic approach that doesn't belong in EDH. Sitting down with random people who lie about the power level of their deck? Don't play with them.

If you can't find a group of friends to enjoy playing with, and need rigid, defined rules for a four person battle royale designed to use garbage ass cards, then it's a you problem.
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>>96878663
Basically. If you're playing even just a monocolor deck, there is no reason you could not have access to cards of all 5 colors

>>96878674
>It being an 8 mana spell doesn't actually matter if you aren't casting it for 8 mana,
I am aware. I'm saying that mana value on a card is still an indicator of how strong the designers think it should be. They don't always get it right, but an 8 mana mythic is supposed to do something crazy. I don't think this does.

You're kind of fixating on casting it with Mizzix's Mastery, but even suppose you do, what have you got?
4 damage to any target, tap 2 permanents, a 4/4, and draw 2. That is underwhelming even if you didn't hard cast it. It's jack of all trades master of none type shit.

>>96878696
Depends. You either blame MaRo or you blame Hasbro. I think there's arguments for both

MaRo has this weird obsession with Magic being his legacy, and despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary he thinks he knows what's good for the game. So from a design perspective, he just says they always intended hybrid cards to be either color and not both (completely untrue btw, there are absolutely hybrid cards that have effects you would normally find on dual color cards but not on at least one of its components) and therefore he's gonna get what he wants cos it's HIS game.

Or you blame Hasbro and say that taking over the format has gotten the corporate suits excited about being able to "shake it up" and whatever fucking corporate catchphrases they come up with to justify fucking with things that don't need fucking with.

>>96878731
Okay, so then you're against breaking color identity more than it already has been, right?
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>>96878644
This is what I'm looking for. Big mana cost, and cripples my opponent or is enough life loss to end the game with 1 or 2 hits.
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>>96878726
The petty asshole who made Ghazban Ogress
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>>96878779
Then why do you care about the rules at all if you can just trust your friends to make the right choice given the freedom?
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>>96878818
You're arguing over nothing. Unironically 100% of the people I see fighting this change are autists that don't like blue color on red card because there's no mechanical grounds to stand on. There's maybe 2 hybrid cards that break the color pie and I don't think any hybrid cards will crack top 100 cards, let alone a terrible 5 mana sorcery for an extra combat in monoW.
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>>96878642
>>96878653
They went to a "summit" with a bunch of other influencers. MaRo made an "impassioned" speech about hybrid mana. Josh and Rachel were both persuaded to change their opinion to pro-hybrid.

Its done.
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>>96878872
she cute
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BAKE
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>>96878905
>100% of the people I see fighting this change are [people I don't like]
wew
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>>96878913
I don't see you refuting the claim that it's an apt descriptor.
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>>96878905
>There's maybe 2 hybrid cards that break the color pie
Actual retard.
Just as an example, here's 198 hybrid cards that could go into a "monored" deck

https://scryfall.com/search?q=id%3Er+is%3Ahybrid+f%3Acommander&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name
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>>96878924
>why aren't you taking my ad hominem attacks seriously
I only have so many more wews left this month, are you trying to bankrupt me?
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>>96878906
MaRo needs to be booted out and replaced
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>>96878947
Most of these can't go in a mono red though, she can go in a mono black
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>>96878961
They would just replace him with another corporate stooge
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>>96878888
>People keep abusing social trust and making unfun games by lying
to
>why do you care about the rules at all?

very amusing. In what way are these 2 connected? One is the framework to play an activity, the other is how to deal with bad actors who skirt the rules to win more often. If you are trying to tie bracket systems as a more concrete rule, then something more bludgeoney may be a solution for your pods.

>Banishment
If a player does X, or Y, in bracket Z, then that player is sentenced the shadowzone, placed in last, and automatically forfeits. This ability goes beyond the stack. This is recorded in the companion apps commander credit score.
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>>96878969
>Most of these can't go in a mono red though
Wrong
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>>96878995
I should've said some can't instead I guess
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>>96879002
So is this technically colorless?
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>>96878988
>Commander credit score
>go to random pod
>"Hey man! Looking for 5 star table only!"
>play with them
>ooohh yeah, that was a not feel good win on turn 12, we are all gonna rate ya 1 star
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>>96879006
yes
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>>96877284
Yes? Blue has had hexproof since they made it a keyword in M12
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>>96878988
>AIEEEE I CAN'T HANDLE RULES IN MY GAME!!! SHELDON! SAVE ME WITH SELF-SELECTION!!!
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fresh thread
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>>96879106
>>96879106
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>>96879066
Are you genuinely upset that people have enjoyed this format for years without these changes, and it flourished, while the other formats died under the retarded wotc leadership?
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>>96878746
Go back to sharty faget
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>>96878818
>You're kind of fixating on casting it with Mizzix's Mastery
Well no, in the context of why I posted the card in the first place I care about hitting it with Surge to Victory as a finisher, which staples +8/+0 to all your creatures onto Magma Opus and also when they connect with a player you get to cast Magma Opus. One Magma Opus isn't that impressive, but how bout 4? Or 10? Inalla's gonna have a big ol' board of 9/1s or 10/2s with trample to swing with.
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>>96878779
>If you can't find a group of friends to enjoy playing with, and need rigid, defined rules for a four person battle royale designed to use garbage ass cards, then it's a you problem.
if this is your attitude, why do you even care about wotc taking custody of the format? "Rule Zero Solves Everything!" types are even more insufferable in TCGs than they are in TTRPGs; at least D&D isn't literally a fucking pvp experience with winners and losers but even there "dude just rule zero it!" is a shitty excuse for bad design.

if you go out and play a game of pick-up basketball with your friends they'll still care about traveling with the ball and fouls even if you're only playing for fun
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>>96879025
absolute 4.5 star death



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