What's the worst D&D edition ever, and why is it 2e?

>>96901716
Don't do it. You'll summon the Fishfag.

>>96901716
Not sure if the worst edition is 2e or 4e, but I know the best edition is 3.0. It's both the best edition AND the best OSR edition.

>>96901737
In the fishfag thread? It's a risk I'm willing to take.

>>96901737
>It's both the best edition AND the best OSR edition
3e is OSR now?

Welcome to yet another hijack thread by our resident schizo.

Actual thread can be found here:
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>>96892196
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>>96901716
you tell us it's your opinion afterall
>>96901737
the boogeyman? you still believe in spooks?

everyone is welcome to participate in this thread

>>96901761
go away you recluse
it's time to accept no one wants to post in your usurper-revision-of-an-OP-thread

go away and be the king of no man
or you can return to us and be the equal among equals

>>96901756
Yes! You see, the first OSR game is C&C, that was published in 2004. It was a reaction to 3.5e, that came out in 2003, and it wanted to bring back the game to its old school origins.

If the OSR had been a reaction to 3e D&D, it would have come out in 2001. But since it came out in 2004, after 3.5e, it means it was a reaction to 3.5e but not to 3.0e.

So yeah, D&D 3e is on topic.

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>>96901707
>This thread's theme is traps and titties
OH MY GAWD THAT'S ME! I'M A TRAP WITH TITTIES!

>>96901811
Turn around show us that BULGE OwO

>>96901819
I only show my bulge to 2e studs.

>>96901824
I'm a 2e stud! I'm totally a 2e stud.

>>96901829
Prove it to me. Give me your dirtiest 2e stud talk.

>>96901839
You are ASSBLASTED that 2e is OSR

Remember: Even with the troll spamming his gay puppet show like a retard in this thread, it's still better than the /BrOSR/ thread where those losers are boring each other to death so badly they'd rather be here.

>>96901716
It simply has no redeeming features; it also isn't an OSR game, unlike 3E or WoD.

>>96901737
>You'll summon the Fishfag.
Fishfag is the OP, he's already here.

>>96901841
You're such a 2e stud! You have no idea how ASSBLASTED I am. I'm the softest fishfag you'll ever have.

>>96901844
Yes, brothers! Remember, they can take away our thread, but they can't take away our DIGNITY!

>>96901844
Stop feeding the trolls, stay on topic.

>>96901844
>gay puppet show
I like the parade-brigade better
I'm gonna call him the parade-brigade

>>96901847
>It simply has no redeeming features; it also isn't an OSR game, unlike 3E or WoD.
I don't know what's OSR or not anymore, but 3e is definitely better than 2e. 2e is objectively the worst edition ever published.

>>96901844
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>>96901861
Obvious samefag false flagging as a 2e fan is obvious. Go back to your containment thread.

>>96900249
This was a good post.

Also, the troll's been at it for 15 hours now. Confirmed for having no life.

>the parade-brigade ready to dump 12 more hours of their life into fighting windmills
lol
stay hydrated losers, we ain't done with you yet

What's your favourite 2e monster, and why is it the Gnoll?

>>96901889
Because female gnolls have a girlcock.

>>96901795
>Yes! You see, the first OSR game is C&C, that was published in 2004. It was a reaction to 3.5e, that came out in 2003, and it wanted to bring back the game to its old school origins.
>If the OSR had been a reaction to 3e D&D, it would have come out in 2001. But since it came out in 2004, after 3.5e, it means it was a reaction to 3.5e but not to 3.0e.
>So yeah, D&D 3e is on topic.
Hold on chat, is this true?

>>96901884
You've been at it for two years and you already start whining after 12 hours when it's done to you? I'm afraid you're the real faggot here.

>>96901925
You're a faggot

>>96901927
I'm a gay faggot sister, he's just a dickless whitey cishet faggot. We're not the same.

Anons, let's stay on topic. Post play reports.

>>96901716
I agree your smell is the worst D&D edition ever

>>96901941
Okay, I'll start.

>The Session Where My Adventurers Became B-Corp Certified. (AD&D 2e)

>Be me, forever DM.
Spend WEEKS prepping "Whispering Caves" goblin dungeon. >Got a map, custom traps, whole thing.
>Standard adventure hook: 100 gold for clearing the pests. >Easy filler session.
>Party is FTR, WIZ, CLR. Too high level, supposed to just roll over it.

>Session starts. They stop 50 feet from the cave, ignore the entrance, and take a "break."
>I throw traps and even a Pendant of Defense at them. >Ignored.
>Their focus fixates on the surrounding forest. They spend two hours adjudicating NWP checks for valuable forage.
>They are prepping for "perishable treasure" they haven't even found. I am losing the plot.

>They actually find a haul.
>FTR rolls obsessive Survival/Forage checks and uncovers an inexplicable mountain of fresh salmon, enough for a small city, stashed nearby.
>WIZ uses a carefully restrained Burning Hands to hot-smoke the fillets.
>CLR is now a master sommelier for fish cures.
>Abandon the quest. Goblins still there.

>Return to town and sell their "gourmet delicacy." Sold out instantly.
>Net 50 gold profit. Half the dungeon reward, earned safely via Charisma checks and artisanal food production.
>My AD&D 2e campaign is now a small business simulator.
>All because they started fishing instead of dungeon crawling.

so asside from the guy who doesnt know what a tournament module is
what is the arguing about?
some bullshit? thought so.

speaking of dungeons
who is up to build a dungon co op style?

first up
exterior geograph, really only important when we get to damaged sections or when players break stuff
is there an aquifer/lake nearby ect ect
if its forested then itll be built into dirt not stone on the upper levels and druids can peace out or in my turning into a mole or whatever, and players would be able to excavate with a team of peasants.

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>>96901993
What the fuck did I just read? Are you retarded, ESL, or both?

>>96901941
My turn. Last week's session

>be me
>AD&D 2e fighter, lv6
>party of idiots hunting necromancer
>normal dungeon crawl.jpg
>kick in door, kill skeletons, wizard wastes his spells on bullshit, only one first level spell left
>finally find necromancer, smack him into paste
>loot room, find tunnel behind coffin

>follow tunnel, comes out by a river
>DM describing peaceful scenery like he’s on shrooms
>cleric casts Detect Evil
>DM says “nothing, just fish”
>awkward silence

>someone jokes about fishing
>we actually start fishing
>elf rolls nat20, invents fly-fishing
>wizard smokes the catch with his last spell, Burning Hands
>end up selling it in town for more gold than necromancer had

>DM staring like he’s rethinking his life choices
>campaign started as grimdark undead horror
>now we’re medieval fishmongers with a brand
>“The Smoked Trout of Durnholde™”

>10/10 would abandon plot for seafood empire again

>>96902002
ah well you see after the part of brain development were you start being able to picture apples in your head we get this thing called "creativity" it allows us to "imagine new things"
thats where all the games and adventures come from you see
people make them all.
youll learn about all sorts of things that real people can do when you stop taking things around you for granted.

>>96901990
based
i once played in a merchant gampaign but the gm couldnt hack it and kept pushing us into unprofitable wars

>>96902068
Were you born before the invention of commas and apostrophes? I'm not reading that bullshit, learn to spell.

>>96901941
>be me, forever DM
>prepped grim necromancer arc, cursed ruins, undead knight, the works
>players: ranger, mage, druid, thief

>they kill the boss instantly, ignore all lore, start looting
>find enchanted chest
>I say "it’s warm, faint smell of incense" to sound mysterious
>druid rolls wisdom check
>roll under natural 1: it's a crit success
>brain short-circuits, say "it’s a blessing of plenty"

>ranger asks "so it's like the Create Food and Water spell?"
>I hesitate one second too long
>they take that as canon
>I ad-lib "you smell something... fishy"
>mistake of the century

>they smoke trout, sell it, convert villagers to Moradin's Holy Incense-Smoked Fish Cult™
>lich respawns, complains about smell, they hire him for advertising

>my gothic horror campaign is now a seafood start-up
>NEVER ad-lib again

>>96901941
>be me, AD&D 2e DM
>planned gritty wilderness survival campaign
>lost caravan, winter storms, dwindling rations
>players hyped for realism, tracking, hunting, frostbite trauma

>first few sessions go great
>they build shelters, ration supplies, fend off wolves
>fighter almost dies of exposure, cleric saves him with some spell, can't remember which
>really proud of the tone — grim, desperate, immersive

>this session they reach an abandoned hunter’s lodge
>scavenge barrels, find rusted gear, some old tools
>thief rolls high, finds smokehouse behind the lodge
>I describe cold ashes, hooks, a faint lingering smell
>mage: “so it used to be a smokehouse?”
>I nod. fatal error.

>fighter: “wait, can we fix it?”
>cleric nat 20s survival
>five minutes later they’ve pivoted from survival horror to small business management
>smoking trout from the frozen river, selling it to passing caravans

>my bleak winter campaign is now Fjord & Flame: artisanal fishmongers of the north
>I give up

Phew, is he gone?

I think I might post a few of the better posts from the last thread in this thread. There were several pretty good ones, but the troll doing all this flooding made it tricky to discuss them properly.

>>96902080
and lo the only thing the cyborg could muster was "abide by the rules someone else made"
maybe trying to grasp human creativity was too high a bar. go to the zoo and watch the orangutans. those suckers come up with som plots that will wow the likes of you but which you may be capable of grasping the nuance of.

dungeon idea
combining the dungeon train and the monsters gut classics
a big ol monster god moves about the map making for the fastest travel around, but you gotta be a simbiote to ride, fight parasites and shit.

>>96901993
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>>96902313
Are you high or something? I have no fucking clue what you're trying to say.

>>96902313
Throw in some elements from Raising Steam and I'm... on board.

>>96902321
He's a troll spamming the thread, ignore him.

>>96902333
You're STILL here?

>>96902345
no
you are halucinating from choking on your own drool in the home were your family put you after the last of their love for you evaporated in the midst of an unhinged self absorbed rant.

>>96902323
hell yeah. but how. are they harnessing the power of farts or something?

>>96902379
teehee

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I've got a group who wants to move on from B/X, but they really don't like the look of AD&D. They still want to focus on dungeon crawling, but want better combat that's more flexible without being too complex, possibly with some general simplified/more abstracted bookkeeping.

I'm starting to feel like they might want something in NuSR territory or outside of OSR altogether, but I can't get a clear idea of what exactly it is about B/X they're tired of. I know what they like, and it might be that they've gotten bored of liking it.

>>96902852
Play something totally different and then go back to B/X.
Play Traveller.

>>96902852
>They still want to focus on dungeon crawling, but want better combat that's more flexible without being too complex, possibly with some general simplified/more abstracted bookkeeping.
I think they might like 3e maybe?

>>96902915
>They still want to focus on dungeon crawling

>>96902852
>Play Traveller.

Are you fucking retarded or just trolling?

>>96902915
They still want to do dungeons. That's like #1 non-negotiable for them.

>>96902916
I hope that's not the case, because I don't really want to run 3e that much. I also don't remember if it really was all that good for dungeon crawling.

>>96902921
Stop replying to him.

>>96901847
>also isn't an OSR game, unlike 3E or WoD
Be careful, back in the day when OSR was relevant there was serious speculation that WOD would be part of the OSR.

>>96902921
Just as a change of pace.
Play traveller, then B/X and dungeon crawling will feel fresh again.
Do you like pina coladas?

>>96902946
>I also don't remember if it really was all that good for dungeon crawling.
It's pretty good. Perhaps you should give it a second chance. It's extremely logical, as a system.

>>96902952
>He's doubling down
Fuck off back to your containment thread ACKShill

>>96902852
This is a troll spamming the thread, ignore him.

>>96902952
I can always suggest it, but at best they're still gonna want dungeons in spaaaaaaace.

>>96902953
I remember a lot of little numbers and players getting way out of hand with making characters. I do like a lot of the underlying d20 system though, and I think some of them might have already played it so that's a bonus.

...I might just pop into the 3.5 general and see if they have any good dungeon crawl adventures.

>>96903001
It doesn't have to be Traveller, but play something really different.
Make it a foil.
See games in a new perspective.
Cheat on your wife.

>>96901707
>This thread's theme is traps and titties
That's not a question.

>item saving throws
These are safe to ignore, right?

>>96903935
depends on whether you're okay with someone hating you forever

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it got me wondering,
if you were new to GMing which GM advice on running the game section you found most helpful in running games?

>>96903001
>...I might just pop into the 3.5 general and see if they have any good dungeon crawl adventures.
Feel free to ask here, 3e is on topic and we're happy to help.

>>96904117
The part of the 3e DMG in which they explain CR and how to use it to calculate whether an encounter is balanced for the party. That way you can make sure that the level of challenge is always at the sweet spot and players stay engaged with the game while they proceed along the story that you have planned for them. It becomes like watching a really good movie, which is what good RPGs are about, from the players' perspective. And from the DM's perspective, it finally gets you an audience for the novel or movie script you've always dreamt of writing.

>Only 2 spam posts in the last hour
What is it spamfag? Getting tired?

>>96904322
Do you actually use it? Or do you just ballpark it?

>>96904512
Good question. I'd say it depends. Initially I recommend using it religiously. Then after you have been playing with the same group for some time you could get to start a feel for it, and you won't need it as much.

But after more than two decades playing 3e, I still prefer to use it with a new party, after they level up, or if the party size increases or decreases.

>>96904322
>>96904557
>CR section
That's not bad advice, but it's very narrow in scope. I think OP >>96904117 meant to ask for something more general / foundational. If that's the case...

OP: If you haven't looked at it yet, grab the ACKS 1st edition GM advice section. It's gold. It’s packed with super practical ideas. Think things like giving your players a persistent rival party to shake things up, or making sure your setting is a fallen empire so there are guaranteed ruins and powerful loot everywhere. I guarantee you won't regret the read.

>>96904655
CR Anon here, not OP. I didn't read it but you're making it sound interesting. Will take a look myself, thanks for the suggestion.

>>96904655
>>96904724
Nah, ACKS is complete shit in its entirety, and the only reason people even discuss it at all here despite having a global player base of less than a thousand people is because a handful of shills who wrote material for the game keep trying to promote it.

They're here because they got banned from reddit for shilling so hard even the redditors figured it out.

>>96904739
The best general defense against the ACKS shills is just showing people the game.
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96569835/#q96584043

This was a thread about slavery, of all things, where an ACKS shill appeared during a recent Kickstarter, trying to promote the game because it had rules for slaves. People then began to systematically break down what was wrong with every part of the game he recommended, a process that wasn't even particularly difficult because the game is just so badly made.

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>>96902169
you fuckin' twat, my side stitches came undone.

>>96904780
I don't think you're going to convince anyone that anyone would actually bother reading what you wrote.
I don't think you're going to convince anyone of anything ever again, really.

>>96904739
ACKS being a terrible system doesn't mean there can't be genuinely good GM advice
You don't need to be a good system designer for that

>>96904782
In my defense, I'm not drunk yet, so everything is funny right now.

But speaking of survival, what do you guys think of Forbidden Lands? To basic?

>>96904827
It means you can't separate whatever little good advice he stole from other sources from all the bad advice he generates like a shit fountain. You're better off looking at the DM's advice given in just about any other system, because at minimum it's going to be written with a better respect of your time and not just in order to hit a certain page count.

>>96904763
>This was a thread about slavery, of all things
WHAT?? You can own slaves in ACKS? That's disgusting. Macris is a fucking Nazi.

>>96904763
>trying to promote the game because it had rules for slaves
That's horrible. Why do these people exist? How can someone be pro slavery in 2025?

>>96904985
You think that's bad? He's not only pro-slavery, he even got banned on REDDIT

>>96904987
He got banned on reddit? That's even worse than the fact that he owns slaves.

>>96904991
Getting banned from reddit is pretty bad, but I don't think it's as bad as owning slaves.

>>96905000
Owning slaves? How does he do it? I thought it was against the law.

>>96905004
He's a lawyer from Harvard. He found a loophole.

>>96905007
When? What loophole? Why hasn't congress closed that loophole? This is atrocious, first we get BLM and now slavery is legal again?

>>96905012
Congress found that, in order to close the loophole, they first had to ban him from reddit. But that's not retroactive, so it keeps him from getting new slaves, but he can retain those he has.

>>96905026
So he STILL owns them? What races?

>>96905028
Exclusively Black people.

>>96904739
>because a handful of shills who wrote material for the game keep trying to promote it
Anon, it's actually worse than that. It's not shills, it's the slaves that Macris owns, who are forced to post about ACKS on 4chan.

>>96905043
What? ACKShills are actually literally slaves?

>>96905050
Yep. Black slaves. Macris is a white supremacist.

>>96904655
How can you recommend ACKS? Macris owns a cotton plantation run by slaves. He even raped my uncle once.

>>96905073
That can't be true, he raped my uncle too! Is your uncle Black? How did he do it?

>>96905076
I'm not surprised, he loves raping Black people. He ties them to trees and then inserts smoked fish in their anuses. Then he sucks the smoked fishes out. He has a smoked fish fetish.

>>96905087
Is THAT why he included rules for slavery and smoking fish in ACKS? To promote his kinks?

Thank god reddit banned him.

>the parade-brigade is on it again
Man this thread really strikes a nerve for them doesn't it?

>>96904739
It's been a couple of years but, as a GM, the ACKS GM Advice got me stop and reflect a few times.

There's this whole section about meta-gaming where he compares PC to RC machines: your players have a right to be, let's say, a bargain master IRL and try that at the table. But at the end of the talk the dice decide if their in-game avatar manages to say this much or just babbled some shit while trying to.

Maybe it's not much to you but I have seen these threads for years on /tg/ and most Anons can't address this issue so the shit goes on and on.

>>96904832
>But speaking of survival, what do you guys think of Forbidden Lands? To basic?
Yes, it's way too basic. What you need is something more robust, like ACKS.

>>96902852
>I've got a group who wants to move on from B/X, but they really don't like the look of AD&D.
Unironically, stop playing whatever filtered B/X clone you're currently running and read the Adventure Conqueror King System (ACKS). This isn't just OSR: It's the Domain Game the genre was meant to be.

The core loop is simple, based, and perfect: you raid dungeons for gold, then you use that gold to literally build a civilization. That gold isn't just XP, it's capital.

ACKS gives you the actual, working economic engine to turn a pile of loot into a profitable tax base, a standing army, and a fortress. It makes every trip into the wilderness consequential. You are forced to think about logistics, mercenaries, and resource allocation. It's a proper sandbox where the PC actions directly change the world map.

Magic-Users and Clerics get the biggest win. Their power isn't handed out; their ability to cast high-level spells is tied directly to the sanctums and dungeons they construct. You want high-tier magic? Go found a city. It forces high-level play to be meaningful.

If you're tired of
>I killed the boss.
being the endgame, and you want to be the actual founder of a nation, then ACKS is the only book you need. True King Shit.

>>96905149
I've got to confess, that does sound awesome. Does it actually work at the table?

>>96905157
That's the ultimate "skeptic" question, anon, abd it's totally fair, but yeah, it works.

In fact, it doesn't just work, it's the core engine. The whole trick is that the Domain Game (taxation, building, armies) happens between adventures, not during a dungeon crawl. The rules are high-level abstraction, not micro-management.

It's like a resource-management mini-game in your downtime. You roll for tax collection, check for barbarian raids, pay the upkeep on your Strongholl, and then you're back in the sewer looking for the next pile of gold to fund your expansion.

It doesn't slow down the adventuring—it just makes the adventuring matter by giving the gold a real purpose beyond XP. It gives the whole campaign structure and goal alignment.

It's based, trust me, you won't regret it.

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>mfw I realized I could just make hex maps using generated Dwarf Fortress worlds as the template
I feel like I've been spending my whole life wearing weighted shoes.

>>96905188
I've started doing it as well recently for my new ACKS campaign.

I stopped wasting time on writing mediocre homebrew settings when I found out that the best way to run a truly brutal, deep sandbox is to use a Dwarf Fortress worldgen and pull the Legends XML.

What you get is not just a map: it's a thousand years of history. Every ruin, dark tower, and lair is already named and detailed—no more random tables. That vampire? The XML tells you who they were and what year they were created.

This gives your ACKS domain campaign real, grim consequences. Your players are just a blip, trying to survive and build a keep in a world that has already destroyed countless civilizations. The political history is already baked in.

I think everybody should try it.

>>96905218
Oh, that's cool. Why do you recommend ACKS to use with DF?

>>96905232
Why ACKS? It's simple: Domain game.

Dwarf Fortress is about building Fortresses, and ACKS is about building Domains. They just go hand in hand.

DF Legends gives you a world that's already suffered a thousand years of war and megabeasts. ACKS is designed for players to carve out a domain in a hostile wilderness, which is exactly what DF generates. You don't get that focus from other systems.

You COULD use DF to generate a world for another OSR game like, say D&D 3e, but you wouldn't be making the most out of it.

Your players start fragile, facing threats that have a 700-year history. But then the ACKS rules for realistic economics and logistics allow you to build a keep next to a fully mapped-out goblin civilization, not just some random lair.

It skips the 'random' factor. ACKS needs ancient ruins to loot; DF gives you centuries of named, detailed, specific ruins—fallen dwarven cities and demon-slain capitals. It's the only system that truly utilizes all that depth.

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>>96905254
But ACKS isn't particularly good at the domain game. It has a lot of rules for it, but those rules do not interact well with each other. Some of the underlying math is untested and leads to outcomes that directly contradict the goals of the system. It's a mess. It's a huge, sprawling, "write another rule to sell another book rather than devising a better procedure" mess.
> realistic economics and logistics
You have mistaken complexity for realism. ACKS has rules for all of this, but they're neither realistic nor practical.
You've been sold on the idea of a domain game, not an actual domain game. The dream, not the reality. ACKS appeals to people who imagine games instead of actually running them.

>ACKS shill brigading on 4chan
Old habits die hard, eh?

>>96905290
>But ACKS isn't particularly good at the domain game.
Lmao, stay mad, grognard. You sound like a 5e shill who can't handle a spreadsheet.

It’s not complexity confused with realism, it’s a mercantilist economic model and you don't understand how medieval supply chains work. You expected a simple board game where gold magically appears, and instead you got a detailed simulation.

The rules don't "contradict" the goals, they simply demand actual investment and strategy instead of hand-waving. The 'bloat' is called a toolbox for people who want detailed domain options—you aren't forced to use the entire stack.

ACKS appeals to people who want a conquered world, not just another level-grind. You were sold the dream of competence, and reality hit you in the face. Get good.

>>96905295
Shill? We're discussing game design. You're the one shilling for normie D&D. Go back to /r/5eg.

>>96905295
We're talking about a game we play, I'm sorry that that fucks your sensibilities up so bad..
Try killing yourself or go play games of your own

>>96905295
The really amusing thing is that this shill sounds exactly like one of the few sock puppet accounts that the reddit mods didn't delete.
ttps://www.reddit.com/user/TheYuanti/comments/
Near identical bullshit.

The whole ACKS brigading on reddit is pretty funny, because they still try to deny it happened despite all the evidence. Some people compiled whole lists of sock puppet accounts, and while most of them have since been deleted, there's still a few like the one above that the dumb reddit mods still extended the benefit of the doubt to.

>>96905305
I actually had this realisation when I came to the conclusion that DF isn't a world generator, it's the proof of concept for the ACKS domain game.

That "untested math" bullshit? DF history and logistics IS the test. It hands you a map with 5,000 years of civilization wars, broken supply chains, and actual hostile empires. ACKS rules are the contract you use to unfuck the economic mess DF guarantees.

You need a detailed simulation because the starting world is actually detailed, not a blank grid. It validates the need for the investment and strategy in the Canvas.

>>96905305
You sound like a retard and no one is ever going to listen to you anymore.

>>96905337
Anon, you're compiling lists of deleted Reddit accounts? That's some serious basement autism.

We're talking game math and mercantilism, and you're here stalking post histories like a schizo.

Nobody cares about your spreadsheet of shame. My argument stands, your campaign is garbage because you can't handle the complexity. Go back to your dice tray and cope harder.

>>96905342
Losing the argument on economics led you to this. Seethe and try to calculate the cost of a longship in your brainlet system. I'll still be here.

>>96905290
Can you name me an example of a game with better domain rules?

>>96905188
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>>96905254
This is actually an AWESOME idea. No wonder it broke fishfag.

>>96905342
Your only complaint about ACKS is that it is boring and banned from Reddit.
To me these are positive qualities, and the fact that you can't emotionally get over people enjoying something like this, makes it even sweeter for me. Just looking at my PDF makes me feel warm inside knowing that you are squirming with rage.

>>96905351
>Anon, you're compiling lists of deleted Reddit accounts? That's some serious basement autism.

Nope, the people on Reddit did that.
And why? Because the shills would try to deny it, just like you're doing now.

That's the problem with shilling. Once people know you're doing it, it's completely ineffective and all your efforts just make you look worse.

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>>96905305
Not only are spreadsheets required (which is a sign of poor design in a tabletop game), the math, when you actually use the spreadsheets, doesn't work out.
It's a mercantilism economic model written by someone who barely understands mercantilism and definitely doesn't understand models. It's a truly magnificent pile of garbage, a heap of complex tables that midwits mistake for genius. The optimal strategies, when optimal strategies can be found, are either deeply unrealistic or completely divergent from the stated goals of RPGs in general and ACKS in particular. The best case scenario is turning a D&D-like game into a property management game like Monopoly, but without the competitive aspect or balance considerations.
It's a mess. Please, just go away. Start an ACKS general and see how far that gets you.

>>96905381
And your current position is what, exactly? A spectator in a basement watching other people track sock puppets? You're arguing for the shills who compiled the list, not against them. That's why your point has zero weight.

You want to talk about ineffective efforts? You're typing a manifesto about Reddit drama on 4chan because you can't defeat the core economic model argument. Get back on topic or admit the ACKS math broke your brain.

>>96905357
Birthright, Reign, Worlds Without Number, Pendragon, a box of shit left out in the rain, just about everything has better domain rules that ACKS. It's hard to find worse rules, actually.

We've SEEN the rules, you dumb shill. Your bullshit lies can't work on this board anymore.

Look at how badly your game got dismantled by the people of this board.
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96569835/#q96584043

>>96905384
Spreadsheets required? That's the part where you fail the INT check. If you're building a medieval empire and complain about tracking revenue, you're playing the wrong hobby. Go back to rolling initiative for rat-stabbing.

The math doesn't 'work out' because you're citing some ancient sperg-post about edge-case errors, not the actual system. You need a model to manage an economy. You need a simple dice roll to manage your feelings. Guess which one ACKS gives you.

ACKS turns D&D into WAR. You call it Monopoly, but the actual optimal strategy is building infrastructure to field armies large enough to stop the DF-tier chaos waiting outside your walls. Your brainlet fantasy is that empire management is simple. It's not.
>S E E T H E.

>>96905393
Who do you think is left that bothers to read your posts? There's no one.

>>96905403
Anon, you think Birthright's feudal hand-waving or WWN's soft-focus rules compare to a true mercantilist simulation? They're domain minigames. ACKS is the system.

That archive link is three-year-old sperg drama that none of you ever successfully used to disprove the core economic loop. You didn't "dismantle" anything; you just confirmed you can't read a ledger.

You saw the spreadsheet, got scared, and went back to rolling for feelings. Go play your property management simulator. ACKS is still the only game where wealth translates to military power that actually feels earned.

>>96905415
No one's reading your posts, man. You might as well keep them short and sweet so you don't sound exactly like https://www.reddit.com/user/TheYuanti/comments/

>>96905412
Who is left? Everyone who passed the complexity filter. You and the rest of the brainlets got filtered out when you saw the mercantilist economic model. The majority here is playing the actual domain game, not arguing with a cope artist who can't handle math. You're the one isolated.

>>96905384
>Start an ACKS general and see how far that gets you.
That has already been tried anon
Naturally the general dieded due to low activity
It's no surprise, not a very popular system
But then guess what, no games apart from the biggest 5 are
That's why we can have generals to discuss osrs/nar generally, not some specific game

>>96905424
You're worried about length because your attention span is fried by simple D&D. This isn't a conversation for normies, it's a correction for the archive. My posts are exactly the length required to explain why your system fails the economic model test. Go watch your shill tracking thread.

>>96905436
>That has already been tried anon
>Naturally the general dieded due to low activity
THIS is the ACKS general and it's going great, thank you very much.

>>96905381
We've literally said that you don't understand the word "shill".
I could be macris himself explicitly telling people to buy my game, and you would still use the word "shill" because you're a fucking moron who can't accept the fact that people are playing games without him

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>>96905430
>Who is left? Everyone who passed the complexity filter. You and the rest of the brainlets got filtered out when you saw the mercantilist economic model. The majority here is playing the actual domain game, not arguing with a cope artist who can't handle math. You're the one isolated.

New copypasta just dropped.

>>96905384
Ok, so what? My group has had fun with it for years and meanwhile all you have done is have tantrums over it.
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>>96905446
That's just you crying.

>>96905403
>A box of shit
Wow, a very well reasoned and normal argument from a completely well-adjusted person. Fortunately I don't really care about domain play very much, so I have tons of fun playing everything else about ACKS.
definitely much better than actually playing birthright or worlds without number lmao

The whole point of D&D was always to kill the dragon and take its gold to found your kingdom, and ACKS is the only system that actually gives you the full, based rules for the second part.

The NuSR tards cry about complexity, but what they call "spreadsheet" is the only way to model a working mercantilist economy where your wealth translates to actual power and military conquest.

It filters out the normies who just want to roll dice and leaves the actual strategists who want a conquered world, not just another level cap. It’s what B/X always should have been, and why it's the gold standard for domain play.

>>96905430
>posting again
Look, I'm telling you, no one's reading your bullshit because you shit the bed with all your shitposting. Any time in the future someone will want to bring up ACKS, all we have to do is show
>the time the ACKS shill tried to shill the game in the 3.5 thread and got mocked to death and had a complete and total meltdown
>the time 4chan systematically tore down all the systems that the ACKS shill tried to market as being anything other than complete broken shit
And, of course,
>the time the ACKS shill spent several dozen hours shitposting to himself about how much of a schizophrenic sperglord he is
Hell, you started doing it again in this thread.

>>96905412
I'm definitely reading his posts.
I'm also still confused about what your actual argument against ACKS is?
You seem to be fixated on the fact that you call it boring economically, and that you don't like its domain rules.
What is the actual complaints though? Because I've had a lot of fun with this game so far

>>96905464
>definitely much better than actually playing birthright or worlds without number lmao
One has to be really desperate or completely retarded to play Birthright or WWN.

>>96905436
>>96905384
I don't see why when it fits into the osr thread just fine.
Not a perfect game, but I have a lot of fun with it. You see people here praising bfrpg and that's a notoriously bad pile of crap.

>>96905477
This is the ACKS general now. Cope and seethe.

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>>96905453
I mean come on, just try to imagine the sort of person who'd unironically write
>You and the rest of the brainlets got filtered out when you saw the mercantilist economic model.
Like, take a look at yourself, bud. That is possibly one of the funniest sentences ever written, and you can't see the joke.

>>96905479
No one believes you or will ever believe you again.
You've played your hand. You have zero shame when it comes to samefagging, and you are more than willing to spend countless hours just shitposting to yourself.

>>96905496
The only samefagging happening is you arguing with your own bad math. I'm right about the mercantilist model. Seethe.

>>96905493
Is it? I've always wanted an ACKS thread. What's your favourite monster?

>>96905495
Okay? We're still playing the game regardless of your opinion on it.

>>96905496
You're literally experiencing schizophrenic delusions
>No one reads your posts
"Well actually i do"
>NO ONE BELIEVES YOU, YOUVE TIPPED YOUR HAND,Y MASTERPLAN IS IN MOTION MWAHAHAHA!
what games *are* you playing in btw?

>>96905513
Mass comma gelatinous

>>96905504
The alternative explanation is that someone who's either neutral on ACKS or dislikes it is deliberately parodying an ACKS shill for the sake of shitting up the thread. Which is probably fun if you're twelve and this is your first time online, but seems a bit sad the more you examine the idea. Life is complicated enough without pretending to hold opinions you don't actually hold for the sake of annoying people on a Norwegian herring-smoking forum.

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>>96905513
Not a monster per se, but the rules for "Beastman Tribal Traits". Basically whenever you have an encounter with beastmen (basically what D&D calls humanoids) you have a table that generates that specific tribe's special abilities.

That makes every encounter unique.

>>96905539
Now THAT sounds interesting. Tell me more.

>>96905535
>herring-smoking forum
If this is the subject of the website then why are you even here? Seems to me I recall that anything having to do with smoked fish makes you have a melty

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>>96905547
Gladly! Here's the rules. They're actually extremely simple:
>Roll 1d20
>Read down the race's column
>Read the short paragraph with the special abilities.

>>96905527
You can't gaslight the board when we've got your posts right above.

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What kind of retard posts like this, and then imagines that the board is going to go "Oh, yeah, the ACKS shill is a really sane lad, we should believe him."

There's HOURS of you posting like that. And, as much as you want to deny it and say it's not you, who in the world would bother defending such a dumb shitposter other than the shitposter himself? It would have to be someone even dumber, and that'd mean digging below the bottom that the ACKS shill set.

>>96905566
That's great! And people say ACKS is overly complex? You're making it sound like a lie.

>>96905577
You went from collecting reddit accounts to collecting 4chan posts? Your autism is getting worse, Anon.

>>96905584
They're only inches above, man. Not exactly a huge trek to find evidence of your retardation.

>>96905577

LMAO


Fishfag has this new obsession. He also has a collection of reddit accounts, 4plebs links, and now post numbers that he pulls out when he's in extreme distress.

>>96905188
Okay, but which version of Dwarf Fortress should be used? The Steam version doesn’t have the detailed map exporter like legacy versions - however - Steam already has all the biomes neatly textured in pleasing styles that players would love.

>>96905577
LMAO first you false flag spam your own thread and then you use it as proof.

>>96905598
Is that really how you're hoping to perform damage control?
Cry when people show how retarded you are?
You realize at this point, everyone is always going to assume the opposite of what you're hoping to convince them? You've essentially signaled how scared you are.

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>>96905566
His treatment of Demons is also great. You know how the DMG has an appendix with a demon generator that is only cosmetic? Well, in ACKS there's a few tables for demon generation that are both cosmetic and functional. So every roll tells you one detail of what the demon looks like (body shape, whether it has wings, attack types) AND a special ability that comes with it.

It's EXTREMELY well designed.

>>96905577
Dude nobody cares what the fuck you're rambling about, either discuss games or go somewhere else to screech at the clouds

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>>96905624
Here's the snippet with the body types. It's extremely short and elegant, you can use it at the table with zero prep OR you can use it during prep to create new demon types.

People say ACKS is too complex, but this is EXACTLY the right amount of complexity for me.

>>96905566
>>96905539
I'm a big fan of health basically all of the non-standard humanoid races are just considered beastmen, it makes it a lot easier for me to conceive and formulate them as a structured society.

Anyone here have any unusual characters in ACKS? One member of our party got turned into a werewolf a while back, but we still haven't seen him actually use it in combat

>>96905632
Every time you post, you're just informing the board of what you wish they would believe.
But no one is ever going to believe you.

>>96905641
That looks cool but I don't understand any of those words

>>96905593
My dick is only inches inside your ass and you still have a hard time finding that. Good job finding your own retarded posts though.

>How it started >>96901766
>How it's going >>96905342

>>96905624
>DMG has an appendix with a demon generator that is only cosmetic
I might be mistaken, but wasn't that from the monster manual and not the dmg?
I feel like it might have even been monster manual 2?
I'm not at home or I would check. But otherwise yeah I totally agree with you on his treatment of demons. Even the small ones (mane?) are cool. I'm a bit disappointed that the summon spells are banned at my table, otherwise I would have a lot of fun summoning these fucked up baby demons

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>>96905648
You're so ESL and stupid that it's basically impossible to have an actual conversation with you. I want you to know that if I reply anymore, it's explicitly going to just be shitty and aggressive. I'm not even going to bother attempting to treat you like a normal person.
>>96905651
That's okay my ESL friend, feel free to grab a translation tool of your choice and have fun!

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>>96905677
>I might be mistaken, but wasn't that from the monster manual and not the dmg?
Nope. DMG Appendix D

>>96905671
Don't forget, his only actual arguments on why the game is bad are
>Economically boring/too complex
>'Bad' domain rules.
Which considering how there is no perfect game, I don't see how these arguments either pulled up or are relevant. I haven't spent a dime on ACKS (I make my paypiggy friends share PDFs) and I'm having tons of fun. I really like the way characters work, and I actually feel like there is fun and interesting combat synergy during fights.

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>>96905679
FUCK THE FUCKING PAINT TRANSPARENCY

>>96905703
The art is actually pretty good. Why do people criticise it?

>>96905724
/pol/ bullshit. Don't listen to them, ACKS is not perfect (no game is), but it's pretty based.

>>96905692
I'm on my phone looking through the PDFs and I feel like I'm going crazy. One of the monster manuals also has a set of tables for creating your own demons. I have just skimmed DMG, mm1, and mm2.
Any idea where this went? Thanks in advance for helping

>>96905702
Oh yes, ACKS is great, which is why it's great that this is a dedicated thread for discussing ACKS now. It's just funny how he started out trying to pretend to be welcoming and now he's just melting down into a slag of assrage. The revised OP of the real /osrg/ apparently really, really got to him deep. He's been losing his shit about it for a week-plus now unless I'm miscounting.

>>96905702
Can you stop feeding the troll? Talk about what you like about ACKS instead.

>>96905724
Due to budgeting constraints, a lot of the art he commissioned was done using AI generation. I don't think there's really anything wrong with this, and complainers will complain.
really it seems like in the end, all of the actual criticisms are just thin veils for concealing their actual hatred of the game's creator. for concealing their actual hatred of the game's creator.
And honestly, for a game to be this successful, banned from Redditosr, and accused of being the brainchild of a Nazi, I'm not seeing any downsides.
Even if domain or economy is that bad, I'll just improvise or use something else

>>96905724
The only AI art in the books is filler spot art to break up pages from being identical blocks of wordswordswords, any actually illustrative/relevant art is really well done and him spending the money on that is why he had to use AI for some (not even all) of the spot art.

>>96905736
Are you talking about one of the real Monster Manuals, the Gygax ones (AD&D "1e"), or about one of those from the bowdlerized knockoff for the storygaming special education kids of Satanic Panic moms ("AD&D" 2e)?

Ha, remember when ACKS shills got caught doing really obvious brigading behavior?

Man, I wonder what those ACKS shills are up to now...

>>96905768
Brigading? This general is about OSR, ACKS is OSR, so it's on topic.

>>96905768
>the ACKShill is pursuing me through the Night Land!
>aaaaaahhhhh saaaaave me Gookmoot I'm going insaaaaane!!!

>>96905768
Why did you create an ACKS general if you don't want ACKS to be discussed?? That's very odd behavior. Almost psychotic.

>>96905778
ACKS? Then we GOT to talk about the brigading.

Someone even posted an example of a sockpuppet that wasn't deleted.
https://www.reddit.com/user/TheYuanti/comments/
About two dozen posts just praising ACKS, including posts that say "X game is great, but ACKS is much better" in order to talk about the system in any available threads. Not really much of a posting history, just a 'person" with a clear and obvious agenda and no other interests beyond transparently promoting ACKS. And that's one of the ones the mods still gave the benefit of the doubt to and didn't delete.

Also, when it comes to vote manipulation, we actually had an interesting example of proof of that.
https://old.reddit.com/r/osr/comments/17fjy02/alexander_macris_the_creator_of_adventurer/
The thread was started by some guy complaining about the ACKS discord brigading, and another Redditor asked for a screenshot as proof. That comment got upvoted incredibly quickly to 100+ upvotes, and when that dropped to just 10 because a vote-manipulating accounts got scrubbed, it lead the guy who initially asked for proof of the brigading to edit his post to say that he no longer needed further evidence of brigading behavior.

The thing about viral marketing is that it's only effective if people are unaware it's happening, and too many people who were familiar with the usual activities of the forum noticed it and called it out. Maybe some of the praise was genuine, but when there's a sudden increase of incredibly obvious advertising for a decade old game with lackluster qualities with a tiny player base, conveniently around the time its creator is begging for money, it raises suspicions. When people started collecting lists of obvious sock puppet accounts, pointing out threads that the shills made and then pruned of any negative comments, and just letting people witness the shilling behavior, I don't think much more evidence was needed. You're not going to have screenshots from their private discord.

>>96905748
I'm literally talking about that in the exact post you are replying to. If you don't like my post, you can feel free to not reply to me either.
>Talk about games!
How about you follow your own fucking advice

>>96905760
Haha, real of course. While I will use 2e just purely as a cross reference to look at ecology entries, I do not use them at the table.
I'm almost positive it's in one of the books I mentioned, I distinctly remember an illustration of a demon with a wide smiling mouth and kind of big but slitted eyes, and some classic devil horns.
I'll find it eventually and post it.

>>96905768
They're talking about games, meanwhile you're pissing your pants and screaming at the sky

>>96905804
>About two dozen posts just praising ACKS, including posts that say "X game is great, but ACKS is much better" in order to talk about the system in any available threads.
Just repeating his claim mindlessly without any real content or relation to what's being discussed? Huh! That sounds almost exactly like the 2efag trying to force 2e on /osrg/ even though it's off-topic since it's not an OSR game! I wonder it it's the same guy.

Anyway, good thing that this thread contains only sincere ACKS enjoyers who can post relevant excerpts and references to topical game systems and mechanics.

>>96905834
>Haha, real of course.
I don't think it's there then, mate.

>I'll find it eventually and post it.
Please do! But please post it in the real /osrg/, this is the ACKS thread now.

>>96905804
>wall of text schizo seething
Kek you genuinely don't ever want to talk about games, you just want to troll and shit yourself.

>>96905850
I'll actually be posting it wherever I feel is appropriate, but I appreciate your guidance!
>I don't think it exists
When I prove you wrong, I expect you to print this post out and eat it!

I think the ACKS shill might actually be crazy.

>>96905861
>When I prove you wrong, I expect you to print this post out and eat it!
I won't do that, but I'll gladly concede I was wrong.

>>96905863
Half that, half him being a troll, and half him being mad that people still happily disagree with him even after he's shown how much he can obsessively shitpost.

>>96905880
Legit crazy though. He's having an episode.

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>>96905513
>What's your favourite monster?

>be me
>flipping through the ACKS monster manual for the first time.

Holy shit anon, the blood hound entry is pure fucking gold for any DM looking to fuck up their players' day. Imagine taking a skinny dead guy, peeling off the skin, yanking out the guts, twisting those joints so it scuttles like a nightmare spider-dog, and then rigging the tongue with a bone spike for stabbing and sucking blood like a goddamn vampire mosquito—genius necromancy right there, +1 surprise bonus and tracking for miles makes it a perfect ambush hunter.

Combat wise, those filthy talons and the tongue that latches on, draining 1d4 per round while bogging down the victim with extra encumbrance, and you gotta hack it off or kill the thing to escape? Chef's kiss, immune to all the undead staples too, rebuked as ghouls so clerics ain't OP against 'em.

Ecology fits the spooky vibe guarding tombs or hunting forever, and the spoils with that skull and tongue bone for magic research?

Bro, this thing's got layers, gonna drop a pack of these on my party's next session and watch the salt flow. 10/10 would animate again.

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>>96905869
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>>96905863
why dont you actually talk about games? you just spam the thread non-stop with your crying.

>>96905920
Ah! Right! I stand corrected.

>1e/ACKS general
based based based

favorite 1e monster entry? im fascinated by the tween and trying to figure out how to use him well. Theyre like jojo stands lmao

>>96905920
This literally just looks like a rework of Appendix D t bh

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>>96905963
I'm sorry, old man, I don't understand your banter.

>>96905920
I guess I take back what I said. I agree that it looks like a rework of appendix d, but you were correct nonetheless.

>>96905778
NuSR, but yeah it's OSR adjacent
t. OP

>>96906026
It's okay, zoomoid, I'll explain it when you're older.

>>96906037
It's built off BX, adheres to procedure, and doesn't drastically change anything mechanically or totally that affects the core gameplay loop.
How to curiosity, could you give me an example of what it does that qualifies it as nusr?

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>I love ACKS, charlie, I love ACKSSSS!
>Uh, pim I really wouldn't be screaming that at the top of your lungs, there's a fishfag nearby

>>96906037
>>96906048
I'm confused as well. It's got a few FOE elements like the proficiency fagging, but it's still firmly OSR, not NuSR.

>>96906075
the presidencies can even just be excluded, and ran ad hoc, like all MU have lore-mastery, all clerics have theology, etc.
I like profs for the combat moves tho, makes playing a fighter more fun imo

>>96905768
Relax anon, yes they are obviously brigading
However you can see they quickly learn their tactics are not working, changing things up, it's entertaining :)
All they have is the vile spite and paranoia
And it takes them effort to keep this up, you on the other hand can just skip the posts
That's it you are invincible

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>>96906086
>That's it you are invincible
That's the kind of encouragement rape victims give each other while they're being gangbanged.

>>96906075
>I'm confused
Yes we can see that
>. It's got a few FOE elements like the proficiency fagging
So it's not OSR, see that was easy, you can stop being confused

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>>96906075
Thirded, absolutely baffling take. It's literally just a Cyclopedia-style expansion of B/X.

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>>96906086
I CAN'T BREATHE

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>>96906097
Did someone say gangbang?

>>96906102
neither is 2e, by that logic :)

>>96906143
Good meme but old meme, Anon. This is now the serious ACKS general we've always dreamt, please stop shitposting.

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>>96906086
>BRIGADING! WEVE GOT BRIGADING OVER HERE!
>See? No one cares.

>>96906168
>This is now the serious ACKS general
Is it now??

I'm sorry, I didn't get the memo. Don't mind me then, go on.

>>96906168
ACKS is anti-lgbtquiampp++?

>>96906176
Exactly
Now wait till the realization his you

>>96906190
>im not gonna discuss games, im just gonna spam the thread with screeching complaints!
kek, whats your favorite acks class btw?

>>96906167
Sure, but it's also OSR adjacent, so is also fitting for the thread

>>96906176
>tfw you've been on the front lines for so long you instantly associate this picture with a blue bear

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>My sides
This is one for the an(n)als. I'm saving this for when fishfag starts linking to 4plebs and reddit.

>>96906198
maybe, but its dogshit served hardcover, so best avoided no matter the circumstance.

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>>96906197
It has to be the Thief

>>96906048
Obviously you are wrong just take a look at what the acks enthusiasts keep writing about it
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>>96905175
>ACKS is so great it drastically changed the gameplay loop

>>96906204
you know hes got a new stealth channel?
https://youtu.be/9z-UmbaMNPA?si=oJ1u-2unH6up7GBj
>>96906231
>shadowy senses
Good design choice. The thief feels a lot more useful and comfy imo

>>96906240
>ACKS is so great it drastically changed the gameplay loop
yes, it introduced XP-for-GP, possibly the best thing macris invented since THAC0

>>96906222
Also just like acks
And both are valid discussion topics for this thread

>>96906252
nah, ACKS is gold and based, which is why people are discussing it. Can you link to anyone talking about 2e today?

>>96906242
>hes got a new stealth channel
huh?
who?

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>>96906242
>you know hes got a new stealth channel?
How inflating! I mean, deflating. I mean... CARNEVALE

>>96906266
>who?
nigga, can you not follow a reply chain????

>>96906261
>Can you link to anyone talking about 2e today?
I can! >>96905760

>>96906190
Elegant.

>>96906252
Nah. ACKS is valid, 2e is not.
t. OP

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>>96906268
>inserts airhose and pumps u up digdug style

>>96906271
I can, but I didn't get the reference. Sorry.

>>96906277
This. ACKS and 3e are on topic, 2e isn't.

>>96906272
kek, GOTTEEM
>>96906283
then dont involve yourself in grown-folk business

>>96906283
>2e isn't.
Wrong. You can say 2e is unadulterated dogshit here, it's on the real /osrg/ that it's off-topic. In fact, sitting on 2e is one of the primary purposes of this thread. It just happens less and less because 2etard is afraid to bring it up for fear of being ridiculed.

>>96906301
I can bring it up. My favourite 2e setting is Dark Sun because of its dark theme that still remained respectful to the sensibilities of my Evangelical mommy, who wouldn't have allowed me to buy it otherwise.

>>96906326
Dark Sun is so good! I love reading it, but I've never played in it, have you?

>>96906326
you had me in the first half, NGL

>>96906335
I also love reading it but I've never played in it. I don't think I'm even interested in playing in it to be honest. It's just so good to read.

>>96906338
The jokes about 2e write themselves. You pretty much just have to quote what they say in all honesty. It's fucking hilarious.

>>96906357
Yeah 2e is pretty much the laughing stock of the board.

>>96906357
>>96906365
I like the monster ecology entries, and diterlizzis art (usually).
thats really the only reddemable qualities.

>>96906365
The really funny thing is that even on Reddit where it's allowed nobody ever discusses 2e. It's that shit that even the Cairnoids don't want anything to do with it.

>>96906394
But did you know that ACKS IS BANNED ON REDDIT?

>>96906425
Is it? WTF I liked it before but now I don't like it anymore

>>96906433
It is! I have a link to a REDDIT PROFILE that you HAVE TO SEE

>>96906442
A link to a reddit profile? So interesting!

>>96906425
>>96906433
>>96906442
>>96906445
just on the OSR subreddit, afaik.
You cant even mention it without being banned.

>>96906486
That's horrible. I hear Macris owns slaves and farts on the faces of old ladies.

>>96906507
wtf, i like ACKS now?

>>96906507
Macris? More like mACKSris lmaooooo gottem

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>>96906652
>cathyposting
wtf, is it 2002?

>>96906652
>rare image of Fishfag in his natural environment

I have to say, my favorite thing about these fake /osrg/ threads is how unbelievably assmangled the resident troll has become from even a tiny spoon of his own medicine. You can clearly tell in his posts how angry he is, just white-knuckled rage. He even posted in the 2e thread to disclaim it as some sort of satanic machination, even though that one's obviously just a good-faith effort to create a dedicated space for 2e discussion.

>>96906686
>He even posted in the 2e thread to disclaim it as some sort of satanic machination

PLEASE LINK ME THIS LMAO

>>96906634
mACKSris

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>>96906634
>mACKSris

>>96906699
>>96906714
its like pottery, it rhymes

>>96906686
>You can clearly tell in his posts how angry he is, just white-knuckled rage.
Yeah, he was obviously never the stablest guy, but now he's just completely lost it, he's turned into Angry German Kid.

>>96906686
>even though that one's obviously just a good-faith effort to create a dedicated space for 2e discussion.
Yeah, I'm loving the new /nusrg/ and /2eg/ threads and how they explicitly say they come in peace with respect to /osrg/'s take on what is or isn't on topic there.

I unironically think fishfag might be the guy who finally brings peace to the NuSR, OSR, and 2e communities by being such a huge insufferable cunt that Anons unite against him.

>>96906766
lmao, hes become our sacrificial scapegoat

>>96906754
I think he started going on a downward spiral see what I did there? around the time when he first tried to claim that fishfag is a name for people who like ACKS and then started building this conspiracy theory about ACKShills and obsessively collecting links to his own posts on 4plebs and reddit lmao.

>>96906786
The fact that he hasn't been receiving any j support is what broke him, I'm afraid. I love it when he starts whining about ban evasions.

>>96906801
>when he starts whining about ban evasions
lmao

what a pathetic little shit

>>96906766
>I'm loving the new /nusrg/ and /2eg/ threads and how they explicitly say they come in peace with respect to /osrg/'s take on what is or isn't on topic there.
Same. It really shows up the fishfag for the bad-faith shitposter he really is. If you actually have something remotely substantial to talk about, why wouldn't you want to do it in the friendly community for it, instead of losing your shit in an unrelated general? He might as well be sperging out in /4eg/ or /gurpsgen/ or some shit. (Does /gurpsgen/ still exist?)

>>96906692
Not sure this is the specific post Anon meant, but here you go: >>96893559
He kept at it for a while, too.

keep it up parade-brigade you only have to do this every single day for a couple of months and "that one fishfag" who is definitely white-knuckle mad will truly be humbled
it's not like you have a life to live or games to play lmao

>>96906801
I always ask him to explain how he knows if someone is banned or not, that little shit weasel
>>96906825
>t fishfag

>>96906822
>Does /gurpsgen/ still exist?
hello /t/urist
glad to see you answered the call of your discord-butt-budies

>>96906825
>you only have to do this every single day for a couple of months
Ironic, coming from someone who's been doing it for years.

>>96906825
>I-I-I-I'm not FIshfag and I'm not mad!
>I'M NOT MAD!
Okay! Then I'm sure you can give a clear and lucid account of why 2e and the NuSR should be discussed in /osrg/ where they're off-topic instead of in their own generals, right? One that isn't just an empty assertion that "2e belongs in /osrg/" or the like?

>>96906848
>>96906825
follow up; please post any 2e char sheet.

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>>96906835

New thread soon. Let's see how many it takes for him to finally wear himself out.

>>96906852
Did we already reach bump limit? What is it, 300?

>>96906852
li'l guy's gonna be all tuckered out after his big day playing 2e :)

>>96906856
310.

>>96906849
I neither currently play nor discuss 2e
I just think you are a couple of usurping obnoxious faggots so I find you trying so hard entertaining

>>96906877
>I neither currently play nor discuss 2e
or any games at all, actually.

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>>96906870
>310

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>>96906877
>usurping obnoxious faggots
How DARE you do to me for a week what I've been doing to you for years.

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>>96906766
Funny thing is how much discussion those threads have gotten while the /BrOSR/ is basically dead. It seems like everyone's been wanting to discuss OSR topics, just not anywhere near the /BrOSR/ chuds.

>>96906974
Then why are (You) seething so hard that those threads exist, and go to troll them? You should be celebrating \o/

>>96906988
>seething so hard
bruh...
you literally are dedicating your entire days to shitting up the thread you are supposedly not interested in
don't you find it at least a bit ironic?

>>96906852
I'm betting a week and a heart attack.

>>96906974
The /nusr/ has also been home to some of the most savage beatdowns of ACKS on this board. The very first one ended with the ACKShill being bullied around like a volleyball, and a later one had him blasted apart for trying to come up with ways to defend ACKS using AI art.

He actually tried to say "it was just to fill up the page count", which got the entire thread laughing at him.

>>96907003
I AM interested in this thread. I love threads in which I can discuss 2e openly. You see, /2eg/ is a pro-2e thread, and it would be inappropriate to criticise it there, so I don't do it. And it's off-topic on the real /osrg/ and on /nsrg/. But luckily we have this space for open discussion. Thank you for creating it.

>>96906848
nigger you keep thinking you are always talking to the same person
you aren't

>>96906301
Yes, your posts are retarded dogshit and 2e is on topic.

>>96906357
>>96906365
>t, retarded jokes.

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>>96907015
>your posts are retarded dogshit and 2e is on topic
We're on the same page then, retarded dogshit and 2e go together like taco bell and diarrhoea.

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>>96907027
>Y-your jokes are not funny!

>>96906394
Maybe they are talking about it but you don't see it because you are too busy rubbing your stupid face on your keyboard.

>>96907010
>You see, /2eg/ is a pro-2e thread, and it would be inappropriate to criticise it there
a truly eye-opening glimpse into the mind of the average ackshill
niggeritto this is not the Autarst discord or whatever acks discord is called
you won't get banned for that

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>>96907027
>t, retarded jokes.
What an ABSOLUTE OWN

You're on FIRE fishfag

>>96907034
Yes, retarded dogshit and you are the same thing.

>>96907044
>>96907058
Cry harder.

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>>96907052
>Autarst
WTF he's TOTALLY REKT he won't be able to sleep tonight because of the sheer size of this total OWN he's just been subjected to.

We're taking back the thread, guys! Just a few more comebacks like this one!

This general actually made me check out ACKS. Fuck you, cunts. What kind of retarded excel /pol/fag bullshit is that?

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>>96907069
>retarded dogshit and you are the same thing

>>96907078
>Cry harder

SAVAGE! Keep it coming, Anon! He's done for.

>>96907101
>fishfag doesn't like ACKS because of /pol/fag bullshit
BREAKING NEWS!

>>96907114
Anon, /pol/shit is objectively for subhumans.

>>96907101
Amusing, but there's absolutely no way anyone actually fell for the ACKS Shill's shilling.