Welcome to the Old School Renaissance General, the thread dedicated to TSR-era D&D, derived systems, and compatible content.Broadly, OSR games encourage a tonal and mechanical fidelity to early Dungeons & Dragons - less emphasis on linear adventures and overarching meta-plots and a greater emphasis on player agency.If you are new to the OSR, welcome! Ask us whatever you're curious about. We'll be happy to help you get started on this playstyle.>Troves, Resources, Blogs, etc:http://pastebin.com/9fzM6128>Need a starter dungeon? Here's a curated collection:https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/80674659/#80722465>Previous thread:>>96901707popular thread edition
>>96904117>if you were new to GMing which GM advice on running the game section you found most helpful in running games?the last thread got to shit before I could reply so here is my two centsif you are new to GMing generally speaking or just new to OSR style of play>just reading the appropriate GM sections and adventuring sequence in your preferred retroclone is more than enough to get you started, simply don't bother with additional advice yet>the no bullshit retroclones (BFRP, OSE, OSRIC whatever) do it better because you know... no bullshit, they don't drown you with unnecessary discussions and get straight to the point so you can actually start playingOSRICS even has an example starting dungeon you can just start playingthat's itthoughts? comments?like share and subscribe to my mindfarting YT channel ___jk___
Welcome to yet another hijack thread by our resident schizo.Actual thread can be found here:>>96892196>>96892196>>96892196
>>96907989>no bullshit retroclonesmy what a cute lil' puppy>BFRPoh notit's retarded
>>96907989>just reading the appropriate GM sections and adventuring sequence in your preferred retroclone is more than enough to get you started, simply don't bother with additional advice yetThat stuff tends to be pretty fucking dry.
>>96908009>>96908014if you are puzzled please ignore and don't feed the trollsthey are having a fit because some anons were getting tired of their bullshit of trying to rewrite history and exclude other anons the had fights with report and ignore
>>96908051yesthat's the pointif you are just starting out you just need to start following the sequencewhen you are more comfortable you can search for more of a "philosophical" advice
Anybody here who likes ACKS?
>>96908103I'm a bit conflicted. On one hand I really like it, I think it's an excellent game. On the other hand I find it repulsive that it has rules for slaves.
>>96908103>>96908173lol ACKS shill already desperately shilling like the gay faggot he is No one's ever going to believe you ever again. We've seen how bad the game is.
>>96908186It's a horrible game. Worst game ever published. Thank you for saying this.
>go into a dungeone with lots of rope and extra backpacks>capture goblins and tie up everything but their legs>pull them behind me while I fill up the bags on their backsThere. I solved encumberance.
>>96908173It does have rules for slaves, but it also assumes that only Chaotics would own slaves. Basically it's depicted as something that's evil and wrong. I personally don't see an issue with it.
>>96908234>it's depicted as something that's evil and wrongIf that's the case it's much less problematic
>>96908263Bullshit. Slavery is depicted as something positive.
>>96908308Anon, your heart is in the right place, so I will assume that you're saying this in good faith, but you are wrong.
>>96908213You would if all that miscellaneous equipment didn't have a fixed weight of 80 coins total and if carry capacity were ever defined for monsters.
>>96908355Why would you lie about something like that?
>>96908356They're just little halfling-like henchmen.
>>96908412I'm not lying
>>96908014>BFRPYeah that's shit but it could be worse. Could be AD&D 2e.
>>96907989BFRPG is actually dumpster fire dogshit. Avoid it like the plague.
>>96908103Absoutely! What would you like to know?>>96908186Good job finding yourself in the mirror, dumbass
>>96908458Yeah? then prove it
>>96908502>What would you like to know?How do I get started with it? Will my players like it?
>>96908531Have you played BX thoroughly?Are your players into procedural gameplay, and a more 'advanced' BX without being AD&D1e?ACKS is definitely built for autistic DM/players, but you can always just pare down or simplify things you arent comfortable with yet.
>>96908514slavery is only evil when you intentionally mistreat them.
>>96908173>On the other hand I find it repulsive that it has rules for slaves.That's a bastard-soft position to have. Just because you acknowledge something exists and give people the option to use it doesn't mean you're making a moral statement in about it.
>>96908543>Have you played BX thoroughly?For a couple of years but it was some time ago.>Are your players into procedural gameplay, and a more 'advanced' BX without being AD&D1e?More advanced: Definitely. Procedural: Not sure. But I love simulation video games, which is why I'm curious.
>>96908472>could be worse. Could be AD&D 2e.Come on, that's a low-hanging fruit.
>>96908638Id say give it a go. Dont get bogged down in all the systems, just familiarize yourself with the rulebooks slight changes from BX, make some chars, and run some test dungeons
>>96908649First or second edition? Are they very different?
>>96908514Prove what, idiot?
is there a story to why one of the ackshillspammers seethes as much as he does at any mention of BFRP?
>>96908677go for second, it is a revised edition, not "new"
let's see if this simple image will act as a ward against their corruption
>>96908694>>96908703NTA, but bfrpg is genuinely bad to the point of having exhaustive game-breaking issues, expect mockery. I regret accepting it as a gift.
>>96908694Are you looking for rationality in the insane?
>>96908743I asked if there is a story not if there is a reason
>>96908686That he says slavery is bad
>>96908742>bfrpg is genuinely bad to the point of having exhaustive game-breaking issueshumor mename 5meanwhile the one dogshit retroclone is picrel to travel 9 hexes
>>96908776What? Why don't YOU prove that he says it's good?
>>96908784>Basic, but race and class>Basic, but 20 levels>Thief fucked over by resulting 20 levels>XP for GP is "optional", thus undermining core gameplay>resulting in broken monster XP values>resulting in broken treasure tables>resulting in stocking procedure is broken>fighter niche further erased>retarded grapplingI could go on desu
>>96908694>This is the story of a time long ago, a time of filth and autism.>The ACKShill, born out of the anus of his father, dripped into existence>The World cringed at the creature, who had immediately begun to scream as hard as its vile little lungs could pump, only ever interrupted by a whiny, nasally hiss>"AAAAAAAGHHHH-feeeeeeeshhph-AAAAAAAAGHHHH--feeeeeeeshhph-AAAAAAAGHHHH>it screamed at the world, it screamed at everyone that passed, it screamed just to scream>The World prayed it would die, but, perhaps just to spite the World, the ACKShill lived>born of filth, fueled by spite, unloved by all, he sought to spread the disease of his existence and presence, to be a blight upon all the world>and he saw BFRP one day and was all "I must seethe"
>>96908871>doesn't matter>doesn't matter>doesn't matter>the rule is there so whoever wants the core gameplay will have the core gameplay>no it doesn't>no it doesn't>no it doesn't>that's your opinion>that's your opinionalso>desuI could go on newfag discord tourist
>>96908914makes sense
>>96907989>no bullshitpersonally regardless of the system I like showing new players righthand of picrel and I would encourage new GMs to read lefthandit's just one page but IMO very helpful
>>96908930you asked nigga
>>96908930ive been on this site daily since 2006 btw
>>96909093good to know you are just stupid
>>96909185sure lmao
>>96908930also, multiclassing and +4/+5 weapons
>>96908930t. newfag tourist nogames troll
>>96909210you were supposed to list things that are "dogshit"so I guess I should just accept your concession by this point out of humanitarian considerations so you don't have a heart attack frantically trying to dig up something
>>96909226>BX but stretched out to level 20 with +5 weaponskek youre actually retarded desune
>>96909226That you like dogshit stuff doesn't prove that the stuff is not dogshit, but it does say everything about you.
acks good bfrpg bad
>>96907893Reminder that this is a troll thread with a fake OP text. The real OP text is as follows:>Welcome to the Adventurer Conqueror King System General, the thread dedicated to ACKS, ACKS II, and smoking fish.>Broadly, ACKS games encourage a tonal and mechanical fidelity to early Dungeons & Dragons - less emphasis on linear adventures and overarching meta-plots and a greater emphasis on player agency, especially when it comes to producing and selling trade goods.>If you are new to ACKS, welcome! Ask us whatever you're curious about. We'll be happy to help you get started on this unparalleled game.>Troves, Resources, Blogs, etc:>http://pastebin.com/9fzM6128>Need a starter dungeon? Here's a curated collection:>https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/80674659/#80722465>Previous thread:>>96901707>popular thread edition
>>96908638>More advanced: Definitely. Procedural: Not sure. But I love simulation video games, which is why I'm curious.You should definitely check ACKS out. I would suggest having a look at the first edition via the high seas, the second edition is xboxhueg and made more for people who are already into the game IMO. It might not end up being the game for you, but your interests are close enough that you should absolutely have a look at it.
>>96908784>quotes Rancourt's overview of overland travel>neglects to mention that Cairn is even worse and that Rancourt actually heaps praise on ACKS' system for being extremely well thought out and perfect for a type of DM that he just isn'tThis would have been clever if everyone else in the world had been illiterate, Unfortunately for you...
>>96909527Okay, but is AD&D 2e on topic?
>>96908930>just flatly denying that the BFRPG treasure tables are all fucked upLMAO you can't possibly even have read the game, jfc
>>96909527based>>96909612cringe>>96909615hes a nogames troll
>>96909226>how can you say those things are dogshit?!>I've eaten dogshit every day of my life and it hasn't done me any harm!>checkmate atheists!Future generations will study this man's rhetoric in specialist schools.
>>96909620>cringeOkay, but off-topic cringe or on-topic cringe?
>>96909699uhm, take a wild guess!
>>969096122e is the only game that's on topic ITT besides ACKS. It's a special concession to the fact that, as Anon pointed out in the last ACKS thread, you can't complain about 2e in /osrg/ since it's off-topic there (not being an OSR game) and you can't really complain about it in /2eg/ either since that's a thread made especially for 2e enthusiasts, so it would be rude.
Wow, ACKS shill just doesn't shut the fuck up even when no one is reading his posts.
>>96909884thats just you actually, homofaggotron
>>96909804In that case I would be remiss if I didn't mention that AD&D 2e is the bowdlerised knockoff for the storygaming special education kids of Satanic Panic moms.
>>96909884>Still doesn't know what "shill" means.Actual literal clinical retard.
>>96909902>homofaggotronlel
>What's an OSR?>Don't know how to get started?The friendly n00b guides can be found here:>n00b DM's Guidehttps://pastebin.com/EVvt6P0B>n00b Player's Handbookhttps://pastebin.com/XALkXkV0Want to contribute to the thread but don't know where to start? Use this table.>1. Make a spell>2. Make a monster>3. Make a dungeon special>4. Make a wilderness location>5. Make an urban set piece>6. Make a magic item>7. Make a class, race, or race-as-class>8. Make a 4-10 room lair.>9. Make a trap>10. Roll 2D10 and combine
Rolled 2 (1d10)>>96909954
>>96909918Very true! Very true.
>>96908173>On the other hand I find it repulsive that it has rules for slaves.Why? How the fuck could you care about something so inconsequential. It also has rules for killing people and any number of other immoral things just so you know.
>>96909983Fishfag (Autistic Net-Troll)CLIMATE/TERRAIN: mom's basement /tg/FREQUENCY: CommonARMOR CLASS: 8 (hoodie + monitor glare)MOVEMENT: 6, Sw 24 (only in water-cooled rigs)HIT DICE: ½ (THAC0 20)ORGANIZATION: Solo (samefagging)INTELLIGENCE: Low (5–8)ALIGNMENT: Chaotic evilNO. APPEARING: 1 (or 1 with 20 socks)NO. OF ATTACKS: 3 (keyboard slams) or 1 (copypasta dump)DAMAGE/ATTACK: 1/1/1 or 1–4SPECIAL ATTACKS: Hyperfixation Flame, Ritual Repost, MeltdownSPECIAL DEFENSES: Claiming to be a boogeyman, /pol/tarderyMAGIC RESISTANCE: NoneMORALE: Fanatic (17) until mom knocksSIZE: M (5'4" in mismatched socks)TREASURE: BS (Butthurt and Seethe)XP VALUE: 15Appearance: A pallid, scale-dusted neckbeard with LED-reflective eyes and a permanent Cheeto-orange grin. It wears a threadbare waifu hoodie two sizes too small, cargo shorts, and a trilby that says “ACKS Slayer.” Every finger is wrapped in a different anime keychain; what looks like a barbed tail is actually a knotted Ethernet cable that twitches when Wi-Fi drops a bar.1/2
>>96910163>FREQUENCY: Commonkekcracked me up for some fucking reason
>>96909983>>96910163Fishfag (Autistic Net-Troll) 2/2Combat: Fishfag treats combat like a flamewar and must follow self-imposed posting rules (Autism). It should correct grammar before attacking (OCD), but it can't (ESL).Hyperfixation Flame: Targets one foe within 60' who uttered the words "ACKS", "Night Land", "Macris", "Dying Earth", "slavery", or "strength caps for women PCs". Victim saves vs. spell at –2 or starts laughing uncontrollably and is stunned 1 round while the fishfag pastes 47 sourced citations from 4plebs and reddit.Ritual Repost: 3/day. The fishfag recites a 10-year-old copypasta verbatim in a 30-ft. about Macris having been banned from reddit. Everyone hearing it must save vs. breath or cringe. Must be performed in exact order or the fishfag takes 1d4 damage from ritual failure.Meltdown: When he hears a defence of a book or game he dislikes, the fishfag enters a 1d4-hour rage: +2 to hit, –4 AC, regresses to 4th grade and starts shouting elementary school rebuttals and whining about ban evasion.Samefagging camouflage: When identified as a single autist samefagging with a clearly recognisable posting style, starts shouting the words "BOOGEYMAN" and "ACKS HILL"/pol/tardery: Calls everybody who disagrees with him a chud, thinking that counts as an insult on 4chan.Habitat/Society: Lairs in his mother's basement. No life, no friends, no games.Ecology: Feeds on (You)s.
>>96910170Suggestion: the samefag power should consist of an at-will Mirror Image, but with the images so shitty that it's obvious which one is the real fishfag.
>>96910185ROTFL
>>96910163i strongly suspect hes an esl third worlder actually
>>96910185When identified, he also claims not to exist, despite his smell being perceivable from across the board.
>>96910170>special attack:>"No, You!">The Fishfag may accuse anyone within 60' of in fact being the Fishfag, which forces the target to save vs spells or gain an inhuman, foul appearance
>>96910185Wait wait no: the images should all be exactly identical, but whichever one you target, you hit the real guy, so actually the power just makes him easier to reach.
>>96910214HAHAHAHAHA
>>96910213>"AAAAAAAGHHHH-feeeeeeeshhph-AAAAAAAAGHHHH--feeeeeeeshhph-AAAAAAAGHHHHlol you're fucked mate.
>>96910287
>>96910322Jesus fucking Christ that image doesn't only LOOK like fishfag, it SMELLS like him.
>>96910331wonder if hes worth more smoked?
>>96910331>"AAAAAAAGHHHH-feeeeeeeshhph-AAAAAAAAGHHHH--feeeeeeeshhph-AAAAAAAGHHHHYou gonna brigade until you die and everyone is gonna laugh that your last words were the same as your first.
>>96910409u gonna esl until you die of starvation
>>96910418MFW fishfag is actually Starvin' Marvin.
