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>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com/
https://www.pdhrec.com/

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

TQ: How are you feeling about the three color ATLA commanders?
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>>96908266
>TQ: How are you feeling about the three color ATLA commanders?
not mtg, not interested
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>Ra-doon-ha-gay-doon
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>>96908283
Does this mean WotC is going to remove all these cards from the GC list???
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>>96908306
no
what a stupid question
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>>96908306
lmao no. they added those to get you to buy the set
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>>96908266
>TQ: How are you feeling about the three color ATLA commanders?
I don't play UB slop.
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>HATE three color decks
>Really wish they'd let me play 3 colors with backgrounds
I am a liar...
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>>96908296
Why would I play this instead of Mirari's Wake?
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>>96908296
Thank goodness. Landfallslop really needed the support.
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>>96908328
But why would WotC print banned cards?
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>>96908329
Shame. This set has some cuties.
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>>96908338
Hearthhull, I guess?
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>>96908338
It's meant to go with Earthbending, so that you immediately get those lands back.
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>>96908353
gesundheit.
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>>96908344
these sets are designed 2 years in advance, this was in the pipeline before last year's RC banned it
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>>96908370
>smellerbee
What in the hell kind of a name is that lmao
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>>96908391
An odd one for a boy
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>>96908396
Smellerbee is a girl
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>>96907235
>the fact it's until end of turn makes this go crazy with extra combat cards
instant speed btw
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>>96908370
Is this going to be my monored flying men deck?
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>>96908283
So are these only in this special art versions or are there different art versions as well?
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>>96908423
cool commander for a persistent petitioners deck
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>>96908425
There are special cards for the commander bundle, don't think they come in normal packs in any kind of form
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>>96908370
Discard and draw while granting haste too. Smellerbee is going to be a fun include. Glad she got an alright card.
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>>96908444
>commander bundle
There's a commander bundle too? Seems like this set got a lot of bundles and various pack options.
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this set is much more flavourful than spiderman. how did they fuck up spiderman so badly
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>>96908490
I find it mildly hilarious this goes hard with ozai
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>>96908526
AtlA is a fair bit more generic than just Spider-Man
which helps it
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>>96908509
Yeah, 9 normal boosters, one collector booster, 2 of 10 of those cards, and sol ring, arcane signet, swiftfoot boots
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>>96908526
An entire set of one fucking superhero was always gonna be retarded. Imagine if this entire set was just airbenders and no fire/earth/waterbending.
Fitting elemental and spirit stuff into magic was also always gonna be easier than modern day new york city
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>>96908526
Spider-Man shifted gears from an Assassin's Creed-style set to a bigger set midway through and also seemed to focus on all the wrong parts of Spider-Man (New York isn't NOT important but it's not central, Spider-Verse stuff felt oversaturated, etc). It also arguably had to cover more ground and so couldn't do enough compared to ATLA which has a lot smaller of a scope to cover. Super Heroes will be the real test for Marvel stuff I think, anyway.
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>>96908526
I think we're seeing the consequence of two things here. Spider-Man clearly being planned as a small beginner set that was stretched to fill a full set and Spider-Man trying to cover every Spider-Man thing possible. Had they focused on just a shorter Spider-Man story it may have worked out better. Or at the very least cut the multiverse shit. Avatar is the one story and characters which is clearly turning out a lot easier to adapt.
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>another oops all legends set
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>>96908526
It was meant to be an aftermath booster, and then, in rare form, the community told them that they weren't buying packs with one-third the cards for the same price, so they massively backpeddled on aftermath shit (instead of simply making a pack with one-third the cards cost one-third as much, as would be fucking obvious to anybody) and have tried to retrofit a real set onto what was never supposed to be more than a set of like, 70 cards or some shit. So they had to fill out 100 more spaces worth of draft chaff (on top of the roughly 90% of any given set that is already draft chaff, of course) The result is a set that has absolutely no fucking love put into it, because it was done hastily, and with pettiness in mind.
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>>96908423
>this card can go in the 99 of mono black decks
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>>96908602
>tfw my shit casual format destroys a 30 year old competitive game
oops
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>>96908584
I think Spider-Man HAD to cover a wider variety to make the set 'work' but it also didn't focus what it covered all that much, except Spider-Verse-related stuff because the movies were popular, except they didn't have the rights to the movies, they had the rights to the comics, so you get weird shit like Miles/Gwen getting teased romantically even though the comics did that a bit and went "wait Gwen is so much older than Miles this is weird" and dropped it, and characters who've had a single-digit number of comic appearances showing up in the set, like Spider-Byte.
It also doesn't help that Spider-Man's extended cast are so much Spider-People themselves. Comparatively, Batman for example doesn't have everybody around him just being Batman or Batwoman, though there's a lot of that still.
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>>96908283
They're so desperate for this slop to sell holy shit
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>>96908481
>They really printed this in a format where your GY order is allegedly supposed to matter
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>Andrew Swordbro
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>>96908602
That's every set now.
I went back and looked at Eldritch Moon a few days ago out of nostalgia. There were ten Legendary permanents in the entire set. 2 Planeswalkers, 6 Creatures, an Enchantment, and a Land. That's it.
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>>96908657
They've toned it down for in-universe sets lately. EOE didn't have that many for example. UB sets just sort of demand them by necessity of most properties having beloved characters.
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>>96908657
>Eldritch Moon
great set, I remember at the time not appreciating as much but I definitely should have
cool 2hg prerelease event too, which was kinda random
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>>96908664
EOE had 23 legendary permanents, and 10 of them are the same damn creatures with two versions
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>>96908627
I get what you mean. They're trying to chase the hype and go multiverse shit which just so happens also gives them all the names and bulk cards they could want to fill out the set they were forced to fill out. It sounds good on paper. But I think for the cohesiveness of the set it would have been better if it was focused in a lot more. Just tell something more iconic from Spider-Man. Tell the Rami movies if they need an outline the mainstream would know. Something that feels more focused i think would have helped a lot. Both for player feel and card design space. They can still have a bunch of Spider-Man, just have it be different points in the one's life and in the story. Having to stretch even farther to fit all these spider people and villains and totems and nonsense clearly didn't work out.
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>>96908664
>EOE didn't have that many for example
>15
dawg that so many lol
>aetherdrift
>29
wew
basically any set with uncommon legends is going to have this problem.
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>>96908688
does he... eat the crystals?
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>>96908697
yeah they're rock candies
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>>96908697
it is literally rock candy
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>>96908676
Yeah I never really understood people saying EoE was a return to form or whatever, I look at it and dislike it for the same reason I do shit like Aetherdrift or Outlaws of Thunder Junction. It's a hat set through and through, the hat is just an astronaut helmet instead of a ten gallon cowboy hat.
Repeat versions of the same fucking legendary creature within the same set is also one of my number one hated elements of recent releases and it leaned into that shit too.
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>>96908679
>works with any counters of any kind
wew
go wide decks are gonna get like Firebending 20 on turn 5
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>>96908704
what a dumb setting
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>>96908423
>hybrid defenders be like "rules text doesn't count"
Lmao
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>>96908695
>5 mana make ten artifacts and trigger 10x "when an artifact enters the battlefield"
I'm sure there's gotta be some dumb affinity bullshit you can pull with this I just don't know it off the top of my head
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>>96908733
best I can do
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>>96908697
Yes actually
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>>96908695
>from your graveyard
>doesn't exile with a mole token
garbage and double garbage
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>>96908751
politics friendly double strike seems fun.
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This card feels extremely overtuned
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Correct me if I'm wrong but they don't usually gender the cards like this right?
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>>96908771
not a new card lmao
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>>96908782
Feel like they're introducing this to put non-binary/neo pronouns on cards eventually.
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>>96908782
They have been with legends in UB sets at least starting from Spider-Man (there's been some of this outwith the sets but that was the first time for non-Planeswalkers in sets) and there's apparently discussion about doing it with in-universe legends too.
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>>96908794
Bad news.
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>>96908804
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>>96908695
Is this art just 3DCG with a filter?
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>>96908782
Pretty sure I've seen it done for legendaries before, not usually for regular creatures since they're meant to be generic
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>>96908819
Yeah it's not being done for non-legends. We don't technically know if it'll be done for Lorwyn because every legendary we've seen doesn't have a point where they'd use it or any appropriate pronouns, so.
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>>96908720
how many go wide decks can take advantage of it properly?
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>>96908751
Phew. I need a copy of this card and the reprint should bring the price down.
>erm anon it's only a dollar...
Well now it's gonna be fifty cents. Small blessings.
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>>96908539
I think you have them backwards.
So far I haven't seen a Bagel spoiled yet.
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>>96908779
It is.
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>>96908792
Jesus this is good
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So what are the odds of pulling these jumpstart cards in a collector booster?
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>>96908827
I remember it's been used on planeswalkers since forever, and the old creatures that turned into planeswalkers like Origins Kytheon and Jace, guess now they're trying it with regular legendaries as well. Personally I don't really mind since it's less bloat than writing out the full legendary card name like five times to refer to itself
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>>96908723
Says the guy that can't be assed to read flavor text
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>>96908859
From a collector booster, 4 cards are from TLE most of the time (1 can be a scene card from the main set 8% of the set). Those TLE cards are from Jumpstart or the Beginner Box, and there's also the chance of one for the non-foil rare.
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/collecting-avatar-the-last-airbender Check here for more details, scroll way down.
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>>96908723
Yeah what a silly setting. Unlike Magic which is very mature and serious. What's next, Avatar in space? Avatar on racecars wearing cowboy hats? Erm, yikes much?
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>>96908878
I mean they usually just shorten legendary names anyway, and it more just replaces when they'd otherwise use 'it'. There's technically one exception of a card with proper pronoun usage that wasn't a Planeswalker in a set before, but that was a desparked one (though other desparked ones DIDN'T have that so it's weird).
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>>96908891
Not sure why I posted that image there. Must've set it up and forgot I did it. But yeah, silly reprint.
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>>96908679
This would stack firebending 2 for each extra combat you have, right?
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>>96908927
yes
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>didnt open thread in a week or so
>onslaught of avatar cards
>no one even replies to them
fucking hell, can someone put that spammer down? images will be capped quick this time
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>>96908945
I don't mind him dumping the ones that just got revealed i just have nothing to say in response
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>>96908945
the sooner he's done the sooner we can open a UW thread
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>>96908945
He bitches about it when he gets told to fuck off
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>>96908945
>why is someone showing off the new magic cards in the magic thread screeeeeeeeech this isn't what the magic threads are for screeeeeeeeeeeeech
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I shall post cards until someone is autistic enough to give me a reason to stop
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>>96908976
Am I missing something or is this card terrible
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>>96908945
>What the fuck? Why are people posting new cards in the Magic thread?

>>96908723
>Edible things in nature? What the fuck is this retardation!

6/10 bait
Have a couple (you)s
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>>96908695
EVERYTHING MUST BE A LEGENDARY
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>>96908982
Not great but not bad.
>Gives a body and a land on entry
>Landfall +1/+1 counters if you get to 7 lands, first of which the card fetches, to close out games
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>>96908945
UB is real magic, it is the magic that has the most effort put into it by the designers and itll be the sets that have the most options for the very format this thread is based around going forward, not to mention it is the majority of sets this year.
In short cry fucking harder.
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>>96908283
>entomb taking vamp tutor's place
could be a signal that wotc (finally) considers entomb to be the same power level as the other 1 mana tutors and make it a GC
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>>96909012
>UB is real magic,
No Mark. No.
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Red bros, we keep winning. We never lose. Doesnt matter if its a UB set or UW set, we always win.
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>>96908344
>But why would WotC print banned cards?
because they'll become GCs
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>>96909034
Crying and saying no wont change reality. You will play with the person running a UB commander next to you in a pod and you will like it or you just wont play the game.
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>>96908986
>>96908967
>>96909012
absolutely zero reason to post every bulk rare and uncommon the set has to offer, you shiteating lobotmites
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>>96909062
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>>96909062
Uh oh melty
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>>96909034
>gatekeeping
roru rumao get real
what universe do you live in where mtg players actually gatekept the loony lefties from fucking up everything in UW and turning it into sanitized HR approved DEI slop
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>>96909034
He should gatekeep the ice cream from his mouth
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>>96909062
>There is a new magic set
>Why the fuck are you posting every card?
>Don't you know no commander deck has ever used commons or uncommons!
>NOOOO YOU CANT HAVE FUN SEEING HOW THINGS FROM THE UB WERE DEPICTED!!!
Mind broken and ass torn
>>96909076
>Buzzword soup
0 actual thoughts in your head
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>>96908998
This is kind of interesting. Almost board wipe that also fuels token stuff with mana.
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>>96909076
Magic players very visibly have extremely bad autism to the point they're on average low-functioning.
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>>96908976
Keep postin nigga
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>>96909088
>muh buzzword soup
>when the only modern word is DEI and lefties are very much desperate to shake it off the vernacular
uh oh tranny melty
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>>96908526
In addition to what other anons have already said, it is known that there are different people work on different sets and I'm starting to strongly suspect that there's an A-team and a B-team.
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>>96908580
And TMNT is going to be the same, and apparently one more 2026 set is going to be like that (probably Hobbit). Really boggles the mind how the made so many aftermath sets in advance without testing to see if the format itself was a good idea first, since MOM aftermath flopped absurdly hard they've been scrambling to damage control and we're getting a bunch of mediocre sets as a result.
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>>96909088
>oh yeah sure the 4chins general with image cap is a reasonable place to spam with unnecesary spoilers, instead of letting the usual websites compile them neatly
not even good bait. look at all the fun people are 'avin replying and discussing all this nothingness.

>acuses others of 0 thoughts
golden gay
time for a proper bloodletting to get all the microplastics out of your balls
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>>96909034
He's right, but also living in a dreamworld where pigs dont eat slop
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>96908804
That's literally a proper use of plural pronouns though.
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>>96909118
Why do they just refuse to print new archaeomancers? Always some gay qualifier or exception.
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>>96908580
>Spider-Verse stuff felt oversaturated
spider-verse IS oversaturated by its very nature
it's just parker in different flavors to rehash the same damn stories
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>>96909134
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>>96909133
thats pretty good
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>>96909128
TMNT and the other smaller set of 2026 were built that size from the start actually. Only Spider-Man was changed and ACR was too far along to change. They might have started VERY early conceptual development as Aftermath-sized sets but I doubt it.
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>>96909133
Ah, a Rakdos card
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>>96909143
The chud "mind" can't comprehend this
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isn't this really good
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>>96909150
Even if they were, it's clear that small UB sets in general are a flop at this point.
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>>96909146
ceci ne pas l'epique ownage
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>>96909155
>>96909148
>worse bastion
>forces you to play dimir
Meh
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>>96909157
Well, ACR did 'as expected' and we don't know precisely how well SPM did (seems to have done decently outside of LGSes at the least). And ACR was forgettable because it was based on a boring property. SPM has a clear reason for being not great with the midway shift. TMNT will be the test of if smaller sets like that work I guess.
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>>96909034
"Let people enjoy things!" Applies to absolute slop planet of hats garbage like Aetherdrift or Outlaws of Thunder Junction 100x more than it does shit like the final fantasy or dungeons and dragons sets. I feel like a lot of people are in denial of how horrific universe within sets have gotten lately.

If Square Enix executives holding a gun to WOTC's head saying "When using our license, you WILL make the characters conventionally attractive and on-model" is what it takes to get decent art these days then I'd rather that then another six in universe sets of calarts slop
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Nekusar bros are eating good with this one
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>>96909172
>ACR did 'as expected'
I mean if they expected it to flop doesn't change the fact that it flopped. They'll just shrug it off anyway since they've entered that movie studio mentality of just throwing more product out because one big hit (like LOTR and FF) more than makes up for all the flops.
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>>96909168
>forces you to play dimir
Fire nation garrison is a mono black card that can be played in any deck with black
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>>96908804
you had one job
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>>96909154
You would have to be willfully ignorant if you see the change as anything else other than an opportunity to express modern gender ideology
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>>96909199
I was doing a bit.
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>>96908804
Spiders-Man is they because it's literally plural, he's a million spiders in a trenchcoat
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>>96909165
calm down ahmed
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>>96909208
I'm aware. It's just showing that 'they' will show up eventually for an NB character.
People will still think Myrel's a woman though.
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posting cards should not be a crime
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which precon do you like the most and why?
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>>96909192
Dimir is UB, he's making a joke and it's pretty funny
>>96909168
good one, but it is a really good card
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>>96909179
>If Square Enix executives holding a gun to WOTC's head saying "When using our license, you WILL make the characters conventionally attractive and on-model" is what it takes to get decent art these days then I'd rather that then another six in universe sets of calarts slop
It's scary to me that a person can be this goon-brained
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>>96909246
>wanting wotc to not make YET ANOTHER set of ugly nigresses is goonbrained
Look, I don't want porn on the cards. I want there to be conventionally attractive people on some of the cards and WotC has been doing their absolute darndest to NOT do that.
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>want to play commander at lgs
>probably have at least 1 of the faggots I dont want to play with there with an open spot

ahhh this sucks, plus 30 minutes traffic both ways
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>>96909220
Well that's just accurate to real life where the overwhelming majority of """""nonbinary""""" people are really just white women desperate to give themselves a made up label to place themselves higher on the oppression Olympics hierarchy so they can feel special and speak down to others without needing to actually change anything about themselves. Hence why most of them don't even abandon female pronouns and will say shit like "she/they" which is basically the modern day equivalent of "I'm 1/64th Cherokee!" in terms of grasping at straws to seem special.

The worst thing in the world you can be to these people is a cis straight white person, which is why literally 87%+ of self described nonbinaries are women
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>>96909246
>muh gooner
your insults mean nothing
i know what makes (You) cum
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>>96908526
>how did they fuck up spiderman so badly
Bad source IP
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>>96909246
"I don't want to look at purposefully ugly art" is goon-brained to you? You can't comprehend an appreciation for aesthetic beauty that doesn't involve pornography? Really?

Nobody is masturbating at the table when they play Tifa, but they're also happier to look at her than if she was overweight, splotchy with vitiligo, and had a septum piercing and shaved side cut because WOTC thinks that's what their "modern audience" wants to see.
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>>96909220
I don't care what some headcanon some faggot wotc kike wrote on Twitter. Myrel is my waifu end of story.
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>>96909289
Without the card labels would you ever even register this as an elf?
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>>96909254
>Look, I don't want porn on the cards. I want there to be conventionally attractive people
Goon.
Brained.
>>96909289
Why are you obsessed with being attracted to cardboard?
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>>96909202
>words change
Let's all get mad about it
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>>96909310
I mean she has a pointy ear.
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Guns belong in Magic.
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>>96909311
>good aesthetics bad
okay, sorry troon
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>>96909311
>Why are you obsessed with being attracted to cardboard
people don't like looking at ugly things and contrary to what lots of people say beauty standards haven't really changed much in the last couple hundred years. I'd rather my merfolk deck look like a bunch of John William Waterhouse paintings than it look like screen caps from Steven Universe. That's not being obsessed, that's basic aesthetic sense.
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>>96909323
>i-i-it's just aesthetics!!!
>my definition of aesthetic also just happens to be limited to "shit I can jerk off to"
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>>96908481
> mizzixs mastery but worse
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>>96909322
Magic has had guns for decades so yeah
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>>96909336
In recent decades?
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>>96909311
you'll never be a woman btw
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>>96909329
>people don't like looking at ugly things and contrary to what lots of people say beauty standards haven't really changed much in the last couple hundred years. I'd rather my merfolk deck look like a bunch of John William Waterhouse paintings than it look like screen caps from Steven Universe. That's not being obsessed, that's basic aesthetic sense
This except I want my merfolk to look like jason momoa
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>>96909360
>I want my merfolk to look like a convetionally attractive man
Thanks for proving his point.
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>>96909331
>>my definition of aesthetic also just happens to be limited to "shit I can jerk off to"
Again, why are you obsessed with pornography? This bizarre neopuritan idea that the only context in which attractive characters are allowed is porn is fucking bizarre.

Your grandfather who fought in WW2 could look at a pinup girl painted on the side of a plane and not bat an eye, the purpose of attractive characters is just to look attractive. Nobody is dropping their pants and jerking off to Magic cards, it's just better to have attractive characters than purposefully frumpy and ugly ones.

The people arguing "OH SO YOU WANT TO JERK OFF?" or calling anything with attractive characters "gooner bait" are unironically the ones most obsessed with porn, since they cannot even imagine seeing beautiful people in a non explicitly sexual context. The idea of things just being nice and you enjoy looking at for its own sake is foreign to them.
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I goon to my sliver deck.
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>>96909329
>>96909360
I want pretty anime mermaids.
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Rate my deck, please
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>>96909353
>even now, goon-brained anon is thinking about holes
lol
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I've masturbated to dinosaurs and dragons a couple of times. Magic has ugly fuck humans but the monsters still look pretty good sometimes.
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>>96909376
one day they'll print titty sliver with "slivers you control have D cups" and the sliverbros will have the last laugh
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>>96909385
you also lost bigly btw
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>>96909373
>The people arguing "OH SO YOU WANT TO JERK OFF?" or calling anything with attractive characters "gooner bait" are unironically the ones most obsessed with porn
You literally defined "aesthetic" as "attractive"
Does this card do it for you? Does the bug need a huge pair of tits to be acceptable to you?
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I have gooned to this card quite a lot to this card
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>>96909393
ywnbaw
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>>96909316
Willful ignorance it is!
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>>96909405
Somebody post the picture of someone's room with the ink eyes figurine and daki
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>>96909405
>is that a slim figure and a bare midriff in (((current year)))??
>AAAAAIIIIEEEEE NOSEWATER SAVE US FROM THE MALE GAZE
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>>96909427
She got some strong thighs
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>>96909403
the bug isn't depicting a human or even a humanoid character lol
I would like Breya less if her face was covered in pimples or her hollow metal torso was in the shape of a 300 pound land whale, yeah.
You took
>I prefer cards depicting conventionally attractive characters over those depicting purposefully ugly and frumpy ones
and are now pretending that means
>EVERY CARD MUST BE HOT, EVEN THE ONES WITH INANIMATE OBJECTS ON THEM!
I also prefer attractive and aesthetic Land art over the fucking hideous TMNT pizza lands for the same reason. Castle Ardenvale is a better looking land than "Donatello holding up a melted ai-generated slice of disgusting cheese pizza" too
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>>96908792
>this
>mana echoes
>any creature that targets on etb
Neat
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>>96908858
Is it? Its a 4 mana card and it doesnt work on itself. I guess if you are running flicker tribal its ok but I think its a 1$ card lets be real
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Would you be pissed off if I ran this instead of regular chains?
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>>96909448
I don't masturbate to food or landscape paintings but I still find this card fucking hideous and think it shouldn't exist, compare it to beautiful cards like the old lorwyn mountain paintings and it's fucking unbelievable they're for the same game
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>>96909451
I read it as 1W so not nearly as good. But still in flicker decks it's quite good. Kinda like a W Kira desu.
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>>96908858
>>96909449
>you may airbend that creature

what the fuck does that even mean
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>>96909463
It's what they do to foils.
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>>96909459
I would be pissed because the bottom right link is missing an arrow pointing to the right.
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>>96909461
This card doesn't need boobs to be attractive, and it's not wanting """""gooner bait"""" to prefer aesthetic cards over ugly ones
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>>96908546
You've reminded me it's been too long since I played Spyro. Too bad the Playstation Lair didn't have any of the good shit like old Spyro, Crash, Ratchet and Clank, Jak and Daxter, etc.
>>96909459
I genuinely have considered getting one of these explicitly to ask people if I can run it at my LGS.
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>>96909448
>I would like Breya less if her face was covered in pimples or her hollow metal torso was in the shape of a 300 pound land whale, yeah.
Why does it matter to you that your cardboard makes your dick twitch? You still haven't answered this.
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>>96909463
>>96909463
You exile it then you can cast it for 0 whenever
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>>96909463
airbend is exile and the owner can play it again for 2 mana. So you can do it offensively to put enemies back on tempo or do it to your own shit as protection or to flicker etbs
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>>96909490
Do you think nonugly people just give random people boners? How deep in the porn addiction are you?
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>>96909188
Is that... could it be....a wheel in black??? AAIIIIEEEEE, curse you MaRo, Ill spit on your grave
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>>96909403
nta but I think what he's saying is that cards need to look appealing to the eye not sexy necessarily.
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>>96909188
>>96909502
say syke right now
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whats the nastiest instant in a mono blue deck for isochron scepter?
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>>96909490
I don't know how to explain to you that beautiful things are better to look at than ugly things and that it's got nothing to do with my dick twitching and everything to do with aesthetics. Even 300 years ago people weren't masturbating to Corradini sculptures, you're apparently incapable of comprehending beauty in a non sexual manner.
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>>96909515
>a decade to reprint a rare effect in mono black
reprint equity in action
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>>96909515
no
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>>96909523
>bunch of horrific ugly ridges and scars(?) on her face
>aesthetic because TIDDY
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>>96909368
Oh, I wasnt being ironic or disagreeing. Id love to live in a world where we get both hot men and women in mtg art and not things like Sami and "This guy has so many monster friends, also we want him to be fat"
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>>96909501
I don't look at drawings on card board and go
>YEUCH HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO JERK OFF TO THIS!?!
Which is what you seem to do.

How do you rate pic related?
>>96909503
And yet when pressed he starts talking about complexion and body shape.
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>>96909539
>ridges and scars(?)
It's thin cloth you blind retard.
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>>96909539
i'm shocked that the troon sees imaginary scars, shocked i tell you
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>>96909539
it's not scars or ridges lol, she's wrapped in a veil. Carving marble with the impression of cloth pulled right against human skin is an almost unbelievable achievement and is why he's an undisputed master
I know this is dumb rage bait but I'll still respond for the benefit of others in the thread who might be curious, the sculpture's called Modesty and it's by Antonio Corradini
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>>96909551
Exactly where did I say "how am i supposed to jerk off to this?"?
I'm genuinely curious what you're misinterpreting as a need for sexual appeal as opposed to good aesthetics. Nta btw but I actually rate the art on this card as good, but the problem is understanding the underlying politics sours the "feel" of it, you know?
it's like looking at a really pretty painting of a house on the water, appreciating it, and then the person who hired the artist to paint it whispers in your ear "this is the house where i got gangraped" and it just ruins the entire vibe.
>inb4 some kind of extreme misinterpretation or nitpicking an obvious exaggeration
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>>96909569
>>96909559
>no dude it's just a veil
>looks like she's been in a fucking fire
>doesn't look anything like cloth because it's fucking rock
god i hate retards who pretend to like bad art
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>>96909579
>looks like she's been in a fucking fire
Nothing wrong with that.
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>>96909579
you're the one pretending to be a woman here though
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>>96909591
>bad ad homs
rent free~
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>Anons would rather argue about rocks than post cards
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>>96909602
you wish your rent was free GOTTEM
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>>96909607
Holy Based
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>>96909542
So this can just target itself and go infinite right?
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>>96909619
Are you intentionally misreading cards as a bit?
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>>96909559
Did he do it?
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>>96909650
yes he did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeTDf6Anakg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeTDf6Anakg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeTDf6Anakg
>wwe titantron worthy imo
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>>96909572
>I'm genuinely curious what you're misinterpreting as a need for sexual appeal as opposed to good aesthetics.
Oh, that's be the part where you said aesthetic is synonymous with attractive. You see how you said that? And so I'm accepting that you said that and treating you as if you believe the things you say.
>>96909179
>>96909254
>>96909329
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>>96909619
You'd need something like intruder alarm to go with it
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>>96909670
speaking of
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>>96909667
>attractive
>əˈtraktJv
>adjective
>pleasing or appealing to the senses.
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>>96909685
>he's going to the dictionary
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>>96909542
>>96909670
>>96909677
Explain why you lobotomites think this goes "infinite."
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>>96909718
I didn't say I think it does anon I just posted the cards. I would like to know as well
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>>96909667
1. attractive doesn't mean sexually attractive lol, even straight men don't like looking at fat ugly old NTR bastards in art even if they don't want to have sex with men
2. I love how you conveniently ignored the multiple posts describing exactly this when posting literal LAND art and saying the TMNT shit is ugly slop while the Lorwyn painting is attractive
>>96909461
>>96909481
I'm not sexually attracted to men; no matter how handsome Zack Fair is my dick doesn't twitch when looking at him. Nevertheless, I infinitely prefer card art depicting him as a conventionally attractive (and on-model) man than if the STUNNING and BRAVE artists at WOTC had decided to purposefully make him fat, bald, and ugly for no other reason than """subverting modern beauty standards""" or """representation"" because they don't want fat, ugly, and bald people to feel left out of their wizard game
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>>96909693
>explaining what words mean to you (when you clearly don't know) is bad
I'm trying to HELP you since you can't seem to comprehend that attractive and aesthetic art good, ugly shitty frumpy art bad
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>>96909724
Right, sorry, replied to the wrong guy.

>>96909619
EXPLAIN YOURSELF.
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>>96908730
...how is this not a monoblack deck in design and abilities?
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This is seriously the most win moar card I've seen in a while.
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>if you prefer left to right, you're a GOONER and PORN ADDICTED, how dare you want things to be ATTRACTIVE instead of UGLY?
it's a small consolation that statistically these people will have killed themselves in a few years and we won't have to deal with them being retarded.
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Commander set cards powercreeped this format so hard. It was great when it was limited to the power scale of standard.
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Only gooners like fullart lands.
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>>96909756
Unfortunately they will have groomed the next generation of distressed seething gender goblins by then.
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>>96909773
false dichotomies are gay.
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Bring old frames back pls.
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>>96909727
>purposefully make him fat, bald, and ugly for no other reason than """subverting modern beauty standards""" or """representation""
First they came for video games
Then they came for MTG
What will succumb to fat/agender/dei centric beauty standards
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>>96909785
which one?
the old marble one for monowhite was pretty kino
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>>96909785
It's incredible how much more gooder they looked...
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>>96909791
they came for mtg years ago
a big reason you don't see artist instructions/prompts for card art much anymore is how often people would make fun of the cringey instructions given. but they still exist.
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>>96909793
This is the white-on-white that people were complaining about earlier? Looks good.
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I've had a print of this painting for like 15 years I guess I'm a filthy gooner for liking pretty landscapes over a framed photo of a landfill
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>>96909793
That's not marble, it's lace. Look closer.
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>>96909151
>rakdos

it's dimir.

you counter some guys spell, now you have a free 2/2.
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>>96909799
>treehugger environmentalist bullshit
ikoria had the shittiest story i've ever read in all of mtg UW and that's saying something
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>>96909793
Yeah those ones. White text and less frames.
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>>96909799
>a big reason you don't see artist instructions/prompts for card art much anymore is how often people would make fun of the cringey instructions given. but they still exist.
Id imagine WotC likes to keep that shit under wraps under threat of a lawsuit.
That Kinnan art direction is awful. Im not am art expert, but I do understand a good deal about creative writing and I gotta say wow. Whoever had anything at all to do with that art direction needs to be fired at with a shotgun
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>>96909813
justified crashout
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>>96909773
>>96909784
>>96909793
based
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>>9690979
definitely not this one, this looks like ass sorry
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>>96909832
i think it's more the artist's fault. the direction is bad, but you can make a card with the following criteria
>colored hair
>beast master
>teenage boy
>overweight
and not make it look that fucking gay
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>>96908266
>TQ
>PicRel
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>>96909870
How based would it be if they printed this except for Universes Beyond
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>>96909756
Yeah, I'm a gooner.
Yeah, I like good basics.
I'm unsure how this is supposed to be an own.
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i'm sorry what i meant to say is that full art basics are for faggots
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>>96909891
it's WotC, they'd sooner print a land that does this to every card printed before 2012
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>>96909899
>Posted Bolas land
Anon I don't think he's trying to hide that he's a faggot either.
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I'm returning after 25 years. Was the response this bad for UB when Final Fantasy came out?
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>>96909964
LOTR was people making fun of all the race-swapper characters but not the idea itself of lotr in mtg, Dungeons and Dragons was an internal crossover with another WOTC IP so again not much complaints, Final Fantasy was the best selling magic set ever made and also had a good draft environment, there were of course people disliking it but the hate for Spider-Man and TMNT is orders of magnitude greater especially since it's not just a throwaway set of Commander precons like Dr. Who or 40k but an entire set straight into Standard
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>>96909964
>Was the response this bad
The fuck do you mean? Whose response? What is a response?
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>>96909977
This; though also Spiderman suffered for being kind of a botch overall. People are expecting more of the same out of TMNT.

The mood over ATLA seems to be reluctant optimism. Other than the 'Through The Ages" type screenshot card treatments being strongly hit or miss, mechanically it looks more interesting and the set size seems conducive to play. Additionally, the fantasy adjacent IP (like FF) is somewhat less jarring.
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>>96910078
it helps that avatar is already an IP about 4 different colored elements+spirit shit on the side so slotting it into MTG is basically trivial. A lot of the spider-man cards really seem awkward when trying to fit into magic's color pie and everybody being a spiderman clone means the homogenization is even worse
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>>96909753
It's alright in a land sacrifice deck like Hearthhull. You can cast it around turn four, serves as a land sac outlet and then gives you the passive benefit
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>>96910088
they did go too far in on the legendaries with Avatar, having 5x+ versions of each major character was a mistake

but at least Avatar also has a fair amount of non-humans to use, it having unique mix-match animals as part of it's setting absolutely helps making cards
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>>96910053
Do you pay the 1?
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>>96910088
>it helps that avatar is already an IP about 4 different colored elements+spirit shit on the side so slotting it into MTG is basically trivial
Philosophically air is the element of freedom and not order or justice.
Also black has basically no place at all and Nickelodeon won't let "the good guys" have black. Even Jet doesn't have a fucking black print and he was literally so "the ends justify the means" that he attempted to blow up a dam which would wipe out a town of innocent people
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>>96910156
they really could have just passed off the spirit realm and everything related to them as black
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>>96910206
Probably should have. Spirits were very often dangerous. The good ones could have been orzhov or golgari. But nope, black on good guys not allowed
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>>96910156
to be fair though, having both air and fire be red would be fairly silly
and you can't make air green because one of green's defining things is "no flying" or at least minimal flying
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>>96910156
>>96910215
There's a 5c Aang masquerading as Ink
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>>96910227
>to be fair though, having both air and fire be red would be fairly silly
Here's a thought, they never needed to attempt to import a completely different magic system into a setting where all magic comes from 5 colors with specific philosophies
>>96910229
It's literally 4c
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>>96910241
true enough, I wonder exactly how many settings you could truly port with minimal issues

honestly, one of the ones that came to mind, is a complete and utter missed opportunity, Elder Scrolls
It's genuinely one of the few settings you could turn into a UB that was virtually indistinguishable from a UW plane
but instead we got Fallout
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>>96910241
I mean that he can have black in the deck anon
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>>96910156
>Philosophically air is the element of freedom and not order or justice.
The airbenders are literally pacifist and ascetic monks, all three of those things are historically mono-white. They believe in charity and helping those in need and abhor killing, instead preferring to render opponents incapable of harm. Ozai is literally defeated by Aang hitting him with a permanent Humble/Heliod's Punishment/Faith's Fetters effect by permanently revoking his Firebending, rendering the unstoppable fire lord into just a regular guy.

All of these are white effects and themes. White has monks, white has charity, white has nonviolent removal, white has pacifism, white has ascetics eschewing material comfort, white has flying and love of the open air, it fits just fine.
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>>96910241
>It's literally 4c
its wubrg color identity anon, read the transformed part carefully it includes all 5 mana types in reduction
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>>96909959
So a slower Coastal Piracy and similar cards. I guess it does come down a lot sooner.
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>>96910227
which is why the Fire Nation should've been white
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>>96910115
Legendmaxxing is just the reality of MTG nowadays, they're designing sets primarily for Commander and secondarily for draft. Lots of legendaries gets commander piggies to crack packs, and large numbers of legends isn't a drawback in draft where you're not thinking about playsets anyway
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>>96910347
> white is le evil color actually
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>>96910318
What secrets does he bear?
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so which precon is your favorite? (you)
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>>96910360
shouldnt breaking up the need for full playsets be a good thing.
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>>96909957
Damn that art goes hard
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>>96910380
white is the color of order, to the point of tyranny on the extreme end. That's the Fire Nation.
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>>96910419
Don't think, just be mad about thing
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Wen hobbit spoilers?
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I'm still buying the Azula cards because she's my waifu
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>>96910433
genocide is usually a black thing
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>>96910448
I mean wraths are LITERALLY a white thing
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>>96910419
it doesn't break up the need for full playsets, it just makes it so the consistency needed for a competitive constructed deck now comes with a significant drawback of not being able to cast more than one of your key pieces at a time. This has add-on effects of making situations like Vivi Cauldron, where the ability to make multiple copies of key pieces on the field suddenly becomes oppressive.
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>>96910448
black is selfish and lazy, the kind of intense anger and emotional drive to spend a hundred years burning the world down is very Red. Black wants the easy way out and is hedonistic and amoral, doing a lot of fucking work is something Black wants to avoid if possible.
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>>96910442
More like rape acious guest dayum
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>>96910448
...no?
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>>96910433
counter point: fire is red
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>>96910470
Killshot
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>>96910470
azula's fire is blue tho
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>>96910457
I genuinly don't see the problem. consistency is boring in card games, which is why i ideally like commander.
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>>96910442
Hobbit only comes out in the second half of 2026. There is two whole regular MtG Sets before that to sandbag. So first spoilers at the earliest in January, before Lorwyn drops
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>>96910476
That's why she's Dimir and Grixis
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>>96910442
Daily reminder that making a Hobbit set was a mistake
should have been Silmarillion
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>>96910492
>should have been Silmarillion
tolkien estate does not give out rights to the silmarillion easily. thats one of many reasons rings of power was a flaming dumpster fire, the only material Amazon actually had rights to was the appendices, so the show just became ugly fanfic
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>>96910492
Porque no los dos
i do hope the hobbit is far more whimsical and silly. maybe limit it to non standard formats so they can get fucking weird with it.
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>>96910516
issue is that a bunch of things from the Hobbit were already used in the LotR set, and the same issue the movies ran into: there's just far less material

so you'll see a lot of repeat cards and strenuous connections

>>96910513
I suppose that's true, still, rings of power would have been a flaming dumpsterfire even without that, nobody forced them to hamfist a Galadriel-Sauron romance in
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>>96910470
then they're Boros
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>>96910481
i can't believe lorwyn eclipsed will be the only good set of 2026
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>>96910477
It's a problem for competitive constructed formats. I do not expect commander players to care about competitive constructed formats. It is simply a fact of how the game is now designed.

If you think they're going too far with legends these days, well, they're doing it for you.
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>>96910562
reality fracture has like a 10% chance of being good if we really get planar chaos tier kino but then there's a 90% chance it's borderline unset-tier garbage
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>>96910562
i cant believe we would have only gotten 2 sets next year if Lorwyn wasnt pushed back to be retold and resold the Avatar story again
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>>96910398
The Epstein list.
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>>96910492
You really want all that kino reduced to fucking magic cards what the fuck is wrong with you
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>>96910537
if they dont make it a full set, i dont know if they announced one way or the other, they can get away with goblin town, the dwarves, thurandil and mirkwood, beorn, the eagles and laketown for plenty of cards.
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wtf I love UB now
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>>96910590
me too
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>>96910587
alternatively, it's a spider-man tier abomination when it's turned into a full set
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i get so fucking angry thinking about the TMNT set. so fucking mad.
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>>96910590
UW: bearscape
UB:
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>>96910600
I still can't believe that shits gonna be standard legal
like what the fuck were they thinking
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"During each of your turns" instead of "during your turn" makes me feel gross
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>>96910606
are any of the spider-man cards seeing heavy play in standard?
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>>96910613
I have no idea since I avoid it like the plague. Pic related is used in mono-white Heroic in Pauper and in Historic auras.
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>>96910590
>tapped for the first time effect
>middle school age girls art
what did they mean by this
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>>96910255
>>96910306
Yeah but that isn't the point. The point is Nickelodeon won't let the character itself have black. They don't know what the fuck Commander color identity is. They couldn't give less of a fuck. They only know that black is the evil color so only bad guys or former bad guys can have that.

I guaran-fucking-tee you that somewhere in their contracts is something to this effect.
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>>96910613
green goblin is in a weird grixis cauldron transform abuse deck with kefka/emet
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>>96910606
even MTGA isn't going to escape it this time
god I wish through the omenpaths had a paper version
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>>96910630
ymmm? chud that's blue not mono white
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>>96910637
"It's about time we did something fun together"
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>>96910285
>They believe in charity and helping those in need
Where? Where do the fucking air nomads do any charity? You mean those fucking isolationists who live in mountain-top fortresses that can typically only be accessed through flight?
I bet they had real community outreach and it just wasn't ever fucking shown in the show.
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>>96910642
But Fire Lord Zuko is Mardu and that's when he's the good guy
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>two asswipes have forced themselves in my group and I hate them so much I told everyone I'm just not coming any more.
Best way to sell your cards? Doesn't seem I'll have a use for them any more.
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>>96910442
At the rate WotC currently reveals cards? Could be next week.
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>>96910613
the standard meta right now is pure fucking aids and has some of the lowest diversity ever, the two top decks both run zero spiderman cards.

when Murders rotates out of standard, Red Deck Wins will still be able to use Shock because it was reprinted in Spiderman, I guess. But that hardly counts as using an actual spiderman specific card
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>>96908266
I don't like avatar and it doesn't fit magic and is full of memes. I will not play them.
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>>96910664
>But Fire Lord Zuko is Mardu and that's when he's the good guy
Can you fucking read? >>96910642
>black is the evil color so only bad guys or former bad guys can have that.
>black is the evil color so only bad guys or former bad guys can have that.
>black is the evil color so only bad guys or former bad guys can have that.
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>>96910676
>Can you fucking read?
No
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>>96910668
I prefer
>you are not sure what "it" is but you are running out of "it"
>do you wish to continue
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>>96908266
>66
>TQ: How are you feeling about the three color ATLA commanders?
--- i despise U.B. , but, this set seems to be done with some thought, ALSO, the art so far hasn't been fugged up, trannfied, or netflixed.
--- so much mixed feelings about this one, esp since i like the cartoon series.
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>>96910673
i have a strong feeling the same will be for TMNT. sneak being a cast cost makes me think its DOA for standard.
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>>96910642
>They only know that black is the evil color so only bad guys or former bad guys can have that.
June is literally monoblack as a card and she's not evil at all, she's a mercenary who's motivated by money but she's not a villain by any stretch and later teams up with zuko and iroh when they're "good guys".

The actual reason is that in the set's design Black doesn't have an associated Bending type, so it's less emphasized compared to firebending/waterbending/earthbending/airbending
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>>96910686
The art has been awful because it doesn't fit into magic unless you think fantasy art and American cartoon art are similar.
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>>96910590
shredderphile
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>>96910700
ntsa, also
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Downsides to running this card?
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>>96910726
you could be running a better card
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>>96910726
well for one its bad
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>>96910726
the downside is you're running it instead of a better card
strictly worse revitalize isn't very good but its not gonna ruin your deck or anything
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>>96910726
>do the thing AND draw a card
FIRE card design was a mistake.
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>>96910659
they weren't isolationists, they're called air NOMADS they traveled all across the world on flying bisons
they just put their monasteries on top of mountains whenever they wanted to fuck off

Aang himself had friends all over the globe
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>>96910700
>pay 3 sacrifice a creature and draw a card
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>>96910659
Nomad literally means someone who travels or wanders.
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>>96910749
monogatari universes beyond when
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>>96910642
Black doesn't fit Aang at all anyway. Save your energy for summer.
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>>96910700
I don't know what the fuck you're smoking, she was hired to hunt the avatar, she only very briefly assists the "good guys" after zuko has switched sides
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>>96910769
she works for money, not alignment.
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>>96910769
she has a whole book where she teams up with iroh for buddy cop shenanigans
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>>96910747
>>96910753
>they're called air NOMADS they traveled all across the world on flying bisons
This is hilarious because actually in the fandom they writers get shit for calling them nomads when they're not nomadic
>Aang himself had friends all over the globe
It was known that aang was the avatar since he was an infant

>>96910763
Avatar was the world spirit, the world spirit is all things in balance. In magic terms that means 5c, fucking deal with it

>>96910786
Non canon
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>>96910562
But what about ummm
Well ok
Ya
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>>96910156
Good guys shouldn't have black as an identity. If you think black is nuanced and offers positive then you're probably just a bad person with fucked up beliefs.
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>>96910791
>Non canon
its exactly as canon as shit like the book with avatar yangchen, who also does nothing in the show
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The Avatar seems pathetically weak compared to most super duper soul of the world characters in fiction. A space marine could take him.
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>>96910810
they actually only average out to like 3/3s
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>>96910801
>If you think black is nuanced and offers positive then you're probably just a bad person with fucked up beliefs.
t. elesh norn
black is individualistic and selfish which is often evil but is perfectly capable of being justified especially if you live in the awful despotic shitholes that are 99% of Magic planes.
black gets associated with evil mostly because of its typical tribal identity than anything else, its where all the vampires and zombie draft chaff end up in, but thats like saying Green is just the elf color
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>>96910801
Take it up with the Magic designers of 10 years ago. You're in luck though, because the current team seems to agree with you lmao
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>>96910673
God 60c formats are so fucking boring and gay lmao
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>>96910846
standard suck ass right now and will until vivi+cauldron are banned, pauper right now is great though
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>>96910824
>canonically a space smurf dies to a 19 year old girl with no special powers
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>>96910853
dr who characters have retarded amounts of plot armor so that checks out
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>>96910791
>the world spirit is all things in balance. In magic terms that means 5c, fucking deal with it
This has never been true for MTG. The souls of varying planes have always been a scattershot of different colors, frequently monocolored! Soul of Zendikar and Shandalar chief among them.
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im the only one in the group whose cards just go missing
i fucking hate it
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>>96910864
You're wrong, you're cringe, I'm tired of replying to you.
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TQ: magic the gathering is over, I haven't been invested at all since LOTR really put this dogshit in motion
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>>96910853
She absorbs the time vortex and ends up capable of disintegrating daleks and shit. Which is clearly what they are referencing by putting "Bad Wolf" there.
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>>96909246
It's not "goon brained" to enjoy how pretty people look
It's also not progressive to tell artists to not draw what they want to draw because some people on the internet have self image issues
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>>96910841
Selfishness and willingness to use others is bad. I bet your think Machiavellianism is a positive outlook.
Black represents the same thought patterns as the "dark triad of personality disorders." In no way is black a good guy.
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I barely even know anything about Avatar TLA but the obvious move would have been to make black energybending. I get that it doesn't neatly fit however because I think that was introduced in Korra, but I think thematically it works with black color identity.
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>>96909264
I love how hard the artist went on the horror in the Joo Dee art.
The show leans a bit on the creepiness as a joke, but that art is just actual horror
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>>96910874
You're just extremely wrong, anon! Progenitus is basically the only notable 5c "world spirit", most of them are mono-colored! Omnath, who is arguably the most famous manifestation of a plane's mana, was every-color-but-black! It took the Phyrexian compleation of the plane to inject him full of BBM!
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>>96910897
Should have been blood bending. Blood manipulation is generally in black as is controling others.
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>>96910612
>"During each of your turns" instead of "during your turn" makes me feel gross
u mad?
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>>96910901
>Progenitus is basically the only notable 5c "world spirit",
nta but Child of Alara?
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>>96909322
>>96909336
Somehow I ever see anyone point out how MTG has had muskets forever.
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>>96910882
She is still base 2/2 you fucking mong
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>>96910893
black also represents individualism as opposed to mindless subservience to the collective. the heroes and "good guys" of the original kamigawa block were largely Black. Black is firmly on the liberty end of liberty vs safety.
you can find dark triad thought patterns in all 5 colors.
> In no way is black a good guy.
no color is a "good guy", the entire point of the colors is to not just be a boring copy of Dungeons & Dragons alignment.

Splinter is unambiguously a "good guy" and a protagonist in TMNT and he's still mono-black
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>>96910913
no, why?
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>>96910922
You should be complaining they made her a 2/2 instead of a 20/20 Indestructible then.
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White is good. Black is evil.
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>>96910919
Never gonna happen. Cry more polfag.
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roses are red violets are blue
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AAAAAAA IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME
FUCK THIS SET
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>There are 8 cards referencing le cabbage man
Holy fuck was this guy the MC? Do they really need EIGHT cards to reference on show meme? People went apeshit over one spider-man meme card but having like 8 "LE MY CABBAGES" shit is fine.
This set is full of memes and jokes.
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>>96909345
>In recent decades?
yeah the pirates on ixalan had flintlocks.
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>>96910763
the Avatar is the bridge between the mortal world and the spirit world, spirits are black, job done
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>>96910937
But it HAS happened. Portal Second Age (P02) 1998.
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>>96910929
?????
A normal human is and always fucking has been 1/1 in Magic. Rose Tyler is a normal human, she should be a 1/1.
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>>96910593
Ty Lee's still so fuckable. I can't imagine how tight she is.
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>>96910804
correct, what point did you think you were making
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>>96910953
>spirits are black
In magic? Not really. I mean there are some but they are overwhelmingly blue/white.
Even the Oathbreakers of LOTR weren't pure black.
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>>96910914
Child of Alara counts, but both it and Progenitus are manifestations of the worldsoul of Alara. Many, many, MANY worldsoul avatars are not 5c, are not even multicolored!. The Souls cycle from M15 are all monocolored, Nissa's whole thing was speaking to the Worldsoul of Zendikar (Nissa, WorldWAKER) and that turned out to be Ashaya - monocolored again. Kyodai (the Soul of Kamigawa) has a 5c color identity, but is still just monoW. But lots and lots of worldsouls have been encountered by the Jacestice League and almost none of them have been multicolored, let alone 5c. Even going deeper back into MTG lore, we never saw worldsouls as being inherently 5c. Gaea, you know from Gaea's Cradle and shit? That's Dominaria's world soul, and that bitch is MonoG! From the plane that brought you Big Artifact War Arc.
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>>96910961
I will bet you money that at least half the spirits in the Avatar set will include black
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>>96910971
how many cards are in this fucking set? 1000? How are we not done yet?
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>>96910972
329, I think we're up to like 230
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>>96910971
So far we've seen four spirits from TLA and one from TLE. Two of them have a black color identity, the rest of them are blue. Actually, one of them is a flip card and is colorless I guess but the card it flips from is blue/white.
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>>96910981
Koh will probably be black
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>>96910726
this wine did not age well
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>>96910937
even if you ignore all the guns in Spider-Man and Final Fantasy since they're UB, we got lasers and guns in edge of eternity and outlaws of thunder junction and then just regular guns in ixalan, cannons in dominaria commander, the brother's war stuff (which is itself a callback to the OG brothers war mechs and shit in Antiquities), and the weird new capenna guns
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>war criminal
>zero black cards
How did he do it bros?
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>>96911012
He lost his son
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>>96911012
his war crimes were motivated by heat of passion emotions, nationalism and belief in what the fire lord was doing and rage at his son's death rather than callousness or sociopathic amusement.
Red is perfectly capable of war crimes all on its own without needing Black to get involved.
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>>96911012
he'll make up for it in the samurai jack secret lair
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>>96911031
sounds very black to me.
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>>96908792
YES. This is goin straight into the naya monk tribal deck I got.
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>>96910972
Two sets, retard. Standard and Eternal
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>>96910749
2 ahrimans
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>>96910642
>The point is Nickelodeon won't let the character itself have
i don't believe this to be true
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>>96911078
dude trust me
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War crimes are white and blue
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>>96911078
Okay, here's a little game for you then. Point me to a single print of Aang with black in his casting cost :)
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>>96911082
Six million gremlins? Come on, no way that happened...
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>>96911088
Why would aang be black
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>>96911082
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>>96910726
alcoholism
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>>96911097
Because the avatar is the world spirit and represents all things in balance. In Magic this means 5c.
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>>96911159
Sounds like an upside to me.
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>>96911171
nah

t. sober 6 months
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>>96909277
That minotaur is wasting precious milk fire him immediately.
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>>96911166
But it's not magic
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>>96911171
dumb contrarian child
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>>96911181
Couldn't agree with you more, UB is not Magic.
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>>96911179
congrats anon keep it going
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>>96911183
avatar is
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>>96911184
thanks man
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>>96911186
You just said it isn't.
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>>96911183
Thats odd because the back of the card says its Magic the Gathering
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>>96911193
>4CHAN IS LE ONE PERSON
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>>96911179
>>96911184
Reeks of Americans in here. Only you people give a shit about that stuff and think the only way to exercise self control is complete self denial
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>>96911201
your bait is weak and shitskinned.
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>>96911198
Sir, do you recall making this statement >>96911181 ?
>>96911199
Oh so you jumped in on someone else's conversation unannounced and things that had been said previously were attributed to you???
My heart weeps.

Learned something today, newfag
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>>96911208
take it to DMs next time
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>>96911201
ok
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>>96909813
Are you like the Ohio fetishist? Maybe you were raped near a castle and this is you try to cope.
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>>96911207
It's objectively true. I know you're immersed in this weird puritanical culture and think it's normal, but you can just go to Europe and no one fucking talks like that. People don't talk about being however many months sober, people don't think the way to manage unhealthy behaviour is to completely deny yourself something.
It's a ludicrously American thing.
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>>96911218
Ok retard
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>>96911223
>this is the American's natural response to learning about other parts of the world
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>>96911201
Spotted the alcoholic
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>>96911201
>Only you people give a shit about that stuff and think the only way to exercise self control is complete self denial
CAM ON INGERLAND LETS SCORE SAM FACKING GOALS
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UB is more Magic than Magic has been for the last 7 years.
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>>96911231
I'm too old to drink these days, but I don't put a fucking number on it because I'm not American, and if I had a reason to drink I wouldn't deny myself it for fear I'll suddenly lose all control because I'm not an American

>>96911233
Yeah and? Exactly my point. Europeans don't give a flying fuck about alcohol.
We also don't have a drinking age of fucking 21 lmao
Again, Americans have no fucking idea how weird they are about drugs and alcohol. Eeeeeveryone's got a fucking addiction story over there, or knows someone who does. It doesn't happen in Europe.
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>>96910763
He selfishly chose to not kill Ozai dooming everyone else out of his own spiritual self interest. Luckily the Lion-Turtle saved the day.
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LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>96911249
Reminder
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>>96911249
>>96911251
And
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>>96911208
>>96911208
Take your meds
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> let me tell you about your country
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>>96911264
>errrrrm actually sweaty, as a fish I know all about living in water. What’s that? Other animals live on land? Living in water is weird to you? HOW DARE YOU PRESUME TO KNOW HOW I LIVE BETTER THAN I DO!
You rn
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>>96911280
>>96911280
>>96911280
>>96911280
image limit reached
abandon ship
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>>96911166
But that's literally not how things work in mtg, there's an entire collection of paragraphs pointing this out
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>>96911218
>the way to control a destructive vice is to have a specific amount of self control
this is some weird ass bait, i gotta admit.
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>>96911288
>the way to control a destructive vice
See this is is exactly what I mean. No one talks like this in Europe. It is a uniquely American thing to lose your mind over alcohol, and it comes from your history of Puritanism and prohibition. All I’m doing is alerting you to being extremely obvious that youre American
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>>96911324
>no one has ever been ruined by a vice before and never needed to exert self control ever before americans!
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>>96908434
you mean obvious
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>>96908738
damn a vedalken beastmaster orrery



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