Welcome to the Old School Renaissance General, the thread dedicated to first-decade, Gygaxian D&D, its faithful modern clones, and content created for use with them. Later editions (2e and newer) should be discussed elsewhere. Broadly, OSR games encourage a tonal and mechanical fidelity to Dungeons & Dragons played as intended by its creators from 1974 to 1983 — less emphasis on linear adventures and overarching metaplots and a greater emphasis on player agency. If you are new to the OSR, welcome! Ask us whatever you're curious about: we'll be happy to help you get started. We also have two excellent beginner guides created by Anons with feedback from the thread that you can check for help: >n00b DM's Guidehttps://pastebin.com/EVvt6P0B>n00b Player's Handbookhttps://pastebin.com/XALkXkV0 >Troves, Resources, Blogs, etc:http://pastebin.com/9fzM6128 >Need a starter dungeon? Here's a curated collection:https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/94994969/#95006768 >Previous thread:>>96925707>Thread Question:What's your best hexcrawling tip?
>>96952691Roll up what the weather's gonna be in advance, then you can tell them that rain clouds are moving towards them, get out weather-specific encounter tables, etc.
>>96952691For me, it's making sure that everyone involved understands that hexcrawling isn't an overland movement game but an overland exploration game. I think a lot of hexcrawl rulesets are overly focused on just getting you somewhere, adding a bunch of hunting and fishing checks and throwing a bunch of encounters at you along the way, which to me is like a ruleset that encourages you to walk the longest distance down dungeon corridors possible rather than getting into rooms and getting shit done.
Have any of your players run into demons? How have you handled it? The MM gives them a fuck ton of abilities and things they can do and I'm a bit overwhelmed with how an encounter would go.
>>96953047Fuck off fishfag. You already have two hijack threads up: go play in those and leave the original thread alone.
>>96952895This is a great point, but the way I'd phrase it is "hexcrawling as a travel game has different requirements than hexcrawling as an exploration game". Rancourt's overview of travel rules touches on this a few times for example. I think you're absolutely correct though that it's important to convey to the players clearly which one it is you're actually doing, or mainly doing anyway.>>96952954They're mid-high level enemies for sure, but at that level the players should have ways of dealing with them despite the resistances and shit. If you look at it from a pure game-design point of view you could say that "demons and devils" are the narrative excuse for a certain package of challenging abilities that are hard to explain in any natural creature.Anyway, the lower orders of demons can be hit by normal weapons, and by the time you start fighting Type IVs you should be long past any fighter-type having to make do with normal ones. The thing to remember to my mind is that they can only use one of their wack at-will abilities at a time, and many of them are highly situational; it's improbable that you'll need to keep a Type IV's detect magic or read languages abilities in mind during combat. IMO the main issue is their ability to Teleport Without Error, which means the PCs need some way to lock it down if they want to reliably kill a demon – that or just do massive damage before the demon can use it.>>96953047No, this is the real /osrg/ with the full consensus of the general behind its specification.
>>96953047I wish we could just hardware ban anyone who has installed or used discord on their computer.
>>96952691If there are any intro adventures (or starting areas) missing from the curated document linked in the OP that you think would be good to add, please let me know. I'd like to update it shortly.
>>96953307Fuck you fishfag
>>96953307How the fuck did you get this?
>>96953047Actually, is quite easy to spot the troll threads, they're the ones whose OP don't specifically exclude 2e & newer. I always look for that phrase to ensure I'm in the right thread and not the hijack thread. I was there during the threads leading up to this schism, where most anons agreed & contributed to the updated OP as seen above.
>>96953307HEY WAIT A MINUTE, I RECOGNIZE THAT PFPThat's a faggot named ArgentAegis. He was in a server I used once and got laughed out for trying to advertise an ERP game and talking about one of his players being an MLP diaperfag. If I recall he was going to have slugs with slime that disintegrates clothes try to rape the players. I wish I was fucking kidding btw.
>>96953307Wow that's crazy. You finally convinced me.Guess the only way the ACKSlluminati can win out on this one is leaking your private DMs. Pic related.
>>96953364Jesus, that truly is damning evidence.Fishfag, why where you praising Hitler in private conversations with Joseph Stalin? Clearly you need to address this.Anything other than complete admission that it's totally you is just you covering your tracks by the way, obviously.
>>96953350I guess that'd explain why he spammed one thread with ERP and is generally shameless.
>>96953394>N-no, you have to take me and my discord drama bullshit seriously! Or else-Or else what?
>>96953421>my discord dramaIt seems to be your discord drama, Argent.Honestly I was shocked to see a PFP I vaguely recognized, but it all clicked when I remembered your posts. There really was just a discord shill shitting up the thread this entire time. And he's into rape and scat lmfao
>You're mocking me, that clearly means you're [Insert whoever fishfag has decided is the foe this week here]Not even worth a reply really.
>>96953438This you?
>>96953555>trollcowThat's actually pretty good for this sacredcowkilla fellow.
Hello, ACKS mercantile system defender anon here, back to address your concerns from last thread.>>96950565>>96950667>most villages were MUCH closer than 24 miles to the place they traded their grain withSure, but it's not even a necessary assumption for the village to be further than 24 miles from the city to make a profit from trading, it's just a quick way to increase it. Let's instead calculate the profits from a village that's exactly 24 miles away: Travel time is 4 days, supply cost is about 9,14 GP. City and village are 2 points closer in demand, meaning we sell only at 4 steps in our favor, so gross income is reduced to 25.6 GP. Everything else stays constant, so our expected profit is about 2.54 GP for the 28 day trip. That's only enough for a wretched life style, so you might want to improve that by negotiating for better prices. Fortunately, I was curious about what we stand to gain by doing this, so I quickly calculated it as well. In short, it will increase our expected profits to 6.12 GP in this case.This assumes that our travelling trader is a typical merchant, so that any modifiers to the negotiation roll cancel each other out, and that we try to get better prices both when purchasing and selling. It also carries an approximate 10% risk to offend one of the other parties and we won't get to sell any grain that month.>>96950667>Hell, there is LITERALLY a map included in that section, and I don't think there's even a spot on the map where a village would be outside of another market's influence rangeThat map is actually full of examples of what I'm suggesting. On page 200 it says "all of the forts have villages with 75 – 160 families and market class VI", so locations like Andrastem, Sarotem, Kruantem, Mityatem and Luseatem have no other market in their range.
We're now at the point where Fishfag is posting openly off topic discord bullshit in his desperate attempt to kill /osrg/I wonder if the Jannies will stop gooning to traps long enough to actually do something about him this time.
Made something to contribute, hope this helps you at your tables
>>96953986Good work, thank you anon
>>96953986Saved. Thanks, friend.
>>96953412'Sup, Argent here. I don't view myself as shameless, I don't like it when people in the "lewd" thread try to enforce rules that aren't real. >>96953350I didn't get laughed out, lmao. I came in to laugh at you people because you were having a meltie in the thread about how I was recruiting for an ERP game. Then when one of your mods huffed and puffed and said "You can't do that reeeeee" I called him a powerless faggot and then he banned me from your sad circlejerk, because he couldn't do anything about it on 4chan.I think I might pop in for a visit sometime in the future, do some more recruitment. Not like you can stop me.
>>96953986This brings up a question for the thread;Do you use a screen at the table? If so, which one? I'm fortunate enough to have three AD&D screens to select from, though I don't use it when running a game online. For that I typically reference stuff from my binder. In person, I like the utility of hiding rolls. I'll also stage miniatures behind it to surprise players if I know something is around the corner.
Today's word of the Day!>Shameless>adjective>(of a person or their conduct) characterized by or showing a lack of shame.
Let me guess /osrg/, you need more
>>96955077I still haven't delved into OD&D. I have a copy of the Littlest Brown Book in my lunchbox but haven't had the occasion to bust it out.
>>96953555He's doing it again XDMongrel Banquet Club trolls don't know how long a decade is.
>>96953610But SacredCowKilla likes ACKS...?
So we like 1e here? Yeah me too, but what's the general consensus here about 1e Gygax's psionics?I think 1e psionics is an interesting system but not very well explained. Ok I'll admit i've been autistically obsessing over it lately.Like, it's a cool system, but the 1e DMG doesn't really explain when to use it in the middle of combat, it just says that there's 10 mental exchanges per melee round. Most people assume that means at the begging of each turn here's 10 constitutive mental duels but that just doesn't work because that means anyone with low psionic strength will instantly die to any psionic monster, like a mindflyer.Yeah the mindflayer was an instrinsec psionic monster, and it's a shame nobody used psionics because that means nobody really saw the mindflayer as it truly was designed. Also I heard that after Gygax moved from TSR he did another RPG with another psionics system, does anyne know anything about that???
>>96955717Fucking kill yourself you stupid troll
>>96955717Go back to the Mongrel Banquet Club discord, fishfag.
>>96955784>>96955814???bro I just tried discussing something here for onceif you want to kill this thread by shitting up discussion i'll warn you that you are making it too obviousbut feel free to continue bumping the thread tho
>>96955820You're a discord troll and you're not welcome here. Go make a different thread if you don't like this one.
Genuinely, would there be a way to build an ACKS-like game that was less complicated? I don't like all the freakshit classes, especially since so many are geared toward Macris' setting. I don't really love proficiencies. I just want a B/X game with good trade rules and domain rules. It'd be cool if there were foraging tables to get special ingredients for potions or magic items, too. Not just "you need 40 troll skulls to make a +1 sword" okay but by the time you kill 40 trolls you're probably so high level you don't really need a +1 sword anymore.
>>96956141How about you go back to the Mongrel Banquet Club discord?
>>96952556 that's a bit of a static reading don't you think? Players could realize or be made to realize that the way to start circumventing this is to make inroads with people with political power and building a palisade camp or other place to hoard wealth.>>96955717Sounds like max one duel per segment, no?
>>96955717Psionics is kinda shitty, for the reasons you outlined -- being sort of a minigame where psionic players get scanner'd by monsters in the first round. I don't think Gygax really used it, just cobbled it together because people wanted it.
>>96956127If that's what you want, here's what you do:>Run ACKS>Tell people they're only allowed to use the following classes; X, Y, Z>Don't use proficiencies>Homebrew some foraging tablesThere. Done, that's literally all you need to do to get what you want.It's not that hard.
>>96956289>Sounds like max one duel per segment, no?Indeed!!! I was thinking the same thing. If you do that then the system actually works! Sadly the wording is so confusing most people don't see that it and ditch the system.If you do it like >>96956300 says, it really is broken, but it's the most common interpretation.I think it was indeed rushed, IMO because star wars was popular then and people wanted some sci-fi shit.>>96956127Don't most people just use acks for the tables and ignore everything else? You should do that.
>>96956127>so many are geared toward Macris' settingWhich ones? The core 4 are just the D&D core 4 (Fighter, MU, Thief, Cleric) with the latter renamed. The Vaultguard is the OD&D Dwarf, the Spellsword is the OD&D Elf. The other Dwarf and Elf classes are just there to illustrate how the expanded race-as-class stuff works. Other classes are there for specific mechanics (Venturer, Explorer) or as versions of existing old classes (Witch, Barbarian). So all I can think of that's specific to the Autarch setting are the Zaharan Ruinguard and the Nobiran Wonderworker, which you could very easily just cut with no trouble at all.>Not just "you need 40 troll skulls to make a +1 sword" okay but by the time you kill 40 trolls you're probably so high level you don't really need a +1 sword anymore.Magic item requirements are listed in gp value so all you really have to do is say "fuck the spell limitations for components, any competent alchemist can boil them down" and you're sorted.A quick note - the whole thing with spell components is that their gold value is equal to the monster's xp value, reinforcing gold-as-XP. You don't have to follow that if you don't want to.
>>96956127>>96956127Damn it's only like you can take the parts of games that you like and put them into the system that you use? I'm going to venture a guest that you don't actually play any fucking games at all though do you
>>96956127>how do I say fuck ACKS?You throw ACKS out and just play B/X.>good trade rules and domain rules.You can do those yourself. Think about what you want your players to care about, and don't get stupid with overcomplicating everything. If you're turning the game into some math homework, you've fucked up.>Do it for me!You know your setting better than I do. Is it relatively safe and merchants don't make a whole lot, but live consistently and comfortably? ignore all the dumb details and just have each trip produce a predicted random range of profit, maybe modified with some ability rolls, and maybe throw in a table that includes things like "Minor Baron has spiked toll prices: --5% profit" or "Hippogriff assualts one of the wagon's horses: Lose a half day, Gain a hippogriff foal in 11 months". Let players worry about cool stuff, and not analyzing traderoutes and good prices all just to figure out how to make an extra 10 gold.If it's more dangerous, make the complications table more dangerous and up the potential profits and losses. Hell, make different regions have different "safe" or "dangerous" routes, and let your players decide where they're gonna gamble.You should be able to have fun making these rules, because if they're not fun to make, they're probably not gonna be fun to use or play with.
>>96956303It's not actually that easy. Although the claim is frequently made that ACKS works without the Proficiencies, the mass combat system completely dies without the military Proficiencies, as does the overland survival system in ACKS II.
>>96956363>Hey guys I'm interested in learning how to do something! >Uh yeah don't bother, just have a preformulated idea in your head of exactly what you want and then construct it out of whole cloth
>>96956370ACKS just doesn't work, period. All of its systems are made like someone trying to bore a group to death.
>>96956363It's OK that you don't get it, anon. Sleep. It'll all be fine.
>>96956393But don't you think that there's some merit in a system that completely simulates the world? Like maybe that's boring for you, but what if some players want to play just politics? They will likely engage in high level diplomacy only, and that's where the commerce and mass combat simulation rules come in. It may be boring for certain players, but gold for others. Just live and let live fishbro.
>>96956376>HOW DO I MAKE RULES?!If you understand a system well enough to run a game, you understand a system enough to make rules for it. If you don't understand, you need to learn the system better. Also, it's okay to fuck up when experimenting with new rules. What's not okay is trusting rules just because you found them in a book.Always better to trust yourself than someone who doesn't know you or your group. Always betterAlso, it's like cooking vs. going to a restaurant. Keep going to a restaurant, and the food will always be the same. Cook yourself, and the food will slowly get better.
>>96956344He's probably talking about things like the Veilguard, Beastmaster, Thrassian Gladiator, Elvish Prostatefondler, Gnomish Eugenicist, ect, ect.You know, all the optional shit that you could use but can easily say no to your players whenever they suggest it if it doesn't fit with your setting.>B-but I own the book, how can I not use all of i-DMing Skill issue and inability to say no. Next question.>>96956370Just treat your group as if they have those abilities or fold them into certain classes.Fighters can be assumed to be king shit at being generals, while wizards are less so unless they're leading groups of skeletons or Wizardtimemotherfucker abominations.Or just use the proficiencies as is given you don't love them, but that implies you don't despite them either.
>>96956422>But don't you think that there's some merit in a system that completely simulates the world?For a TTRPG? Not really. You can also rely on your own brain for a good amount of that.>what if some players want to play just politics?Then build that. > that's where the commerce and mass combat simulation rules come in. You don't need to overcomplicate that shit.If X kingdom is a breadbasket, and Y kingdom has a big army, those are much more interesting than X kingdom and Y kingdom having minor differences in salt prices. You can develop the details and subsystems of your world as much as you need, but you need to do it in a way that the big Eureka moment for a player isn't "Wait, if we take the northern route with six horses rather than the North-Eastern route with 4 oxen, we can save ourselves 4 gold as long as the city's rice price doesn't go any lower!"
>>96956506>HURR DURR I CAN JUST MAKE SHIT UP... is it your first day running RPGs? Yes of course you can just pull shit out of your ass, do you think everyone else doesn't know that?
>>96956506Some people just prefer to have concrete rules that simulate it instead of letting the GM arbitrarily decide if X army beats Y army, or if your entrepreneurship fails or is sustainable, and if so which are the gains/looses. In any case this is all done by the GM so I doubt any player group will get "bored".This is also very good for solo play btw, as I said, it pretty much depends on how each one uses these tools, some playstyles will benefit, others don't. But there's objectively some merit in them and it's hard to say it's objectively bad and pointless.
>>96956440>Elvish ProstatefondlerDon't give Macris ideas.
>>96956360>Damn it's only like you can take the parts of games that you like and put them into the system that you use?The entire point of a system is that it's a complete ruleset that I shouldn't have to modify further. In fact, you mold your expectations to the game, rather than the other way around, in most cases.>>96956363>You throw ACKS out and just play B/X.How? You can't get a copy of BX without getting OSE which is insanely overpriced>dude use a PDFI play in real life. I'm not using a PDF when players are already on their stupid fucking phones enough.
>>96956337>Don't most people just use acks for the tables and ignore everything else? You should do that.No because the tables are integrated with the system so it's kinda hard to do that.
>>96956630I get where you're coming from. But ACKS in particular has an excess of Stuff to handle various things the group might want to do (but not always).So for example there's a shitload of stuff in ACKS II about skinning animals and monsters, taking trophies etc etc which players might want to do, might not want to do. Same goes for a lot of the domain-type stuff. You can build shit, invest your gold in businesses, all that kind of thing - except your players might not give two fucks about any of it.So that's the best way to treat ACKS - like a massive 3-book compilation of useful bits that might be useful in a campaign so you don't have to pull something out of your ass.>OSE which is insanely overpricedGonna cost you a lot more to get ACKS II!
>>96956630>You can't get a copy of BX without getting OSE which is insanely overpriced>I play in real life. I'm not using a PDFI just printed OSE from a pirated PDF.
>>96956337from what i understand, psionics was based upon dr. strange marvel comics.
>>96956630>a system is that it's a complete ruleset that I shouldn't have to modify further.Yeah, you don't play any games at all you fucking goof.
>>96956677Except that all the rules ACKS provides a pretty fucking worthless. They're so fucking bad, and it's probably because they were made just to shit out pages of rules with no attempt to refine them down to anything workable or useful, and often just outright idiotic.
>>96956630>You can't get a copy of BX without getting OSE which is insanely overpricedWhat the fuck are you babbling about, retard?>I'm not using a PDFJust fucking print out the shit you need at the table, dumbfuck
>>96956727Bro it's plainly evident that you got ass blasted here >>96956561We are all awaiting your concession.
>>96956727Shhh. Sleepy time now.
>>96953894>Sure, but it's not even a necessary assumption for the village to be further than 24 miles from the city to make a profit from trading, it's just a quick way to increase it.Except it doesn't due to the supply going negative from market increase. And if this were true, why'd you spend the whole of last thread lying?>That map is actually full of examples of what I'm suggesting.Except... It doesn't. It has villages within trading range that would have negative supply because of market influence.
>>96956561> letting the GM arbitrarily decide if X army beats Y army,The GM is still determining that, even if you go through an incredible amount of bullshit to try and obfuscate that.And, it doesn't have to be arbitrary; The DM can use his understanding of the setting to determine, with logic and intelligence that far exceeds the limits of what can even fit into a thousand page system, who would likely win, or even just establishing the odds of each side winning.There's intelligent ways to do things, and it seems like you've never really discovered that.
>>96956772>it doesn't have to be arbitrary>The DM can use his understanding of the setting to determine...Yeah, arbitrarily determine.
>>96956772This, of course, is why all wargames are decided by two people walking into an empty room, nodding at each other meaningfully, and immediately agreeing on who would have won had they played the game.
>>96956748>I'm a weenie and I play with weeniesThen you should be shamed until quit being a retard, and you can fuck off with the hocking shit books that make people into worse GMs, not better.It's like looking in on a family that's been eating nothing but recipes from the Dump Cake book. Sure, you might enjoy that slop, but that's because you've never learned how to cook properly.
>>96956727If you weren't an ESL I would take this post at face value, but I'm going to assume that on top of barely being able to speak English it would be almost impossible for you to comprehend the rules of an rpg.You could always prove me wrong by posting literally any character sheet you have used though
>>96956782>arbitrarily >on the basis of random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.You can use reason and it won't be arbitrary, you ESL.
>>96956804>whining about typos when he doesn't understand basic wordslol
>>96956786>RPGS are wargames
>>96956797>you-you-you are a weenie and this is slop... JUST BECAUSE.lmao>>96956810If someone chooses randomly, that's just not fun, not to mention the DM decided to ARBITRARILY let it to chance. If they, instead, use personal whim, that's literally the definition of arbitrariness.
>>96956422NTASimulationism is incredibly overrated and has no inherent merits, so not really. It COULD be interesting if it was heavier on player decision making and many of these large scale systems weren't "Roll dice for an hour instead of playing the game". >It may be boring for certain players, but gold for others.I mean yeah, duh. It's been said repeatedly that it's a shit system, but a system being called shit has never stopped anyone from playing or running it, or 5e wouldn't still own the market. The problem is that the guy who reps it brigades the thread to do so.Now that we know the main proponent of it is a shameless scat fetishist, it makes sense as to why he thinks his shit taste is the be-all end-all.
Why are all the ACKS critics here like Goofus?>PROBLEM:"Tee Gee, I'm trying to use ACKS mass battle rules, and it says the player needs proficiency X to do mass battle action Y, but I'm not using the proficiencies. What do I do?">GOOFUS SAYS:"Without proficiencies, the rules say they can't do Y! That means we can't continue and the campaign is over! Everybody go home! This system is broken! AAAAH, SAVE ME GYGAX-MAN, I'M GOING INSAAANE!">GALLANT SAYS:"If I'm not using proficiencies, then I'm not using proficiency requirements, so you can just do Y. Problem solved, back to the game!"
>>96955024>I-I didn't get laughed outt. Man who sperged out during his own game when laughed at, claimed it was our fault his game promptly fell apart and his players left, then swore he didn't need the server anyways and would never be back.Also funny that you lie about getting banned, and in the same breath say you'll also just rejoin it.
>>96956817>I'm not ESL, you're ESL, those were just typos!You literally don't play games and you don't have a character sheet You're a tourist a poser and a troll
>>96956844I'm really curious about who you're quoting?
>>96956844Nobody has ever said this and you don't need proficiencies to do mass battles in ACKS, nogames.
>>96956828English motherfucker, do you speak it?If you use logic and reason, that's not the same as personal whim. Christ, you really are just some retarded diaper baby.
>>96956873>>96956875>>96956370>Although the claim is frequently made that ACKS works without the Proficiencies, the mass combat system completely dies without the military Proficiencies, as does the overland survival system in ACKS II
>>96956893>SamefaggingYou realize posting bad criticism to strawman doesn't work when the mass combat straight up doesn't require proficiencies, right? You don't actually know the game.
>>96956893It's already been explained. ACKS is a system so bad, the less you use, the better.This remains true all the way up to 0.
>>96956908>You don't actually know the game.It's true, I don't know shit about it. I just found the exchange funny, and if, as you say, it's based on a false premise, that just makes it funnier.>>96956909>[seething intensifies]
>>96956952So you were disingenuous from the start, like I figured. Pathetic and nogames.>>96956909>ACKS is a system so bad, the less you use, the better.True, though to be honest that just goes for most systems. Most of them are utter trash that don't do what they intend to and have to be severely modified, and sometimes it's worth doing so because they have some good ideas. But ACKS doesn't have many, so it's worthless to me.Still if it gets someone else's rocks off, well more power to them, the only time we'll fight is if they try to insist that the shitty slop they consume is perfection incarnate.
>>96956983When has anybody ever claimed that it's perfection incarnate?Until you can show me that post we all know that you're lying about "I don't care about it until somebody claims it's perfect!" Is a lie, considering that you're complaining about it right now. Or you could just post a character sheet proving that you play any game at all
>>96956883All arbitrary choice is based on logic. That's like saying it wouldn't be arbitrary at all if court judges dictated sentences based on their logic and reason. Yes, it would be highly arbitrary, even if logically thought out. That's why we need laws, not just logical judges.Point is, it's still arbitrary even if you use logic (logic varies from person to person). If you want a system that's not arbitrary, you need concise rules.
>>96955889>talking about tabletop games means you are a troll.
>>96956999>When has anybody ever claimed that it's perfection incarnate?>https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96901707/#96905149>This isn't just OSR: It's the Domain Game the genre was meant to be. The core loop is simple, based, and perfectNow please start the disingenuous coping about how that doesn't count and he isn't ACTUALLY using the word perfect or something equally retarded, diaperfag.>Post a sheeet!!!!Nah, I don't obey degenerate losers lmao
>>96956983I'm being honest and upfront -- the guy who said ACKS mass battle doesn't work without proficiencies, (who you pretended didn't exist until I linked him) even if he had been correct, would still be a dumbass. But it's worse than that, his whole premise was wrong from the start. What do you call someone who can't mount an argument that functions in the first place, and who does it on a false premise, if not ridiculous? IE, worthy of ridicule?
>>96957047Based, the guy you are quoting is totally correct. I'm going to be using this whenever anybody brings the system up. >I don't have a character sheet and my excuse is because... Well I just don't need to okay!Kek you don't play any games at all you fucking mongoloid
>>96957057>I'm being honest and upfrontNo you aren't. You samefagged to argue a strawman and pretend that all critique against the system is therefore wrong, and then admitted to not even knowing the system in the first place and thus having zero ability to discern criticism of it. You are entirely dishonest.But what should I expect from a degenerate loser who gets off to MLP diaper fetish porn?>>96957068Thanks for admitting I'm right and that it's a shit system with retarded proponents, diaperfag.
>>96957093 Where's the strawman? Are you saying that the guy who said ACKS mass combat is busted if you don't use proficiencies isn't actually saying the thing that he said? Or did he just vanish from your memory again because you're a fucking looney?
We are the hollow men. We are the stuffed men. Leaning together, headpieces full of straw. Alas!
>>96957115>Playing dumbWe can all tell you samefagged to try and make your own argument, retard. Screeching that you didn't do that after admitting to being dishonest is not gonna work, though it does help show just how delusional and insane ACKStards are.
>>96957133Take your meds
ACKS weenies are supremely retarded.>OSRG:"ACKS is kinda bad but what's really annoying are people who claim it's perfect.">WEENY:"Nobody has ever called it perfect, it's not even that good, just let people enjoy things!">OSRG:"You're lying, there's a post right here where someone claims it's literally perfect and without flaw.">WEENY:"REEEEEEEEEE HE'S RIGHT ANYWAYS IT IS PERFECT HOW DARE YOU INSULT THE BEST SYSTEM EVER!!!"
>>96957093Take your meds, sweetie. It'll all get easier once you let Uncle Halperidol soothe the voices away.
>>96957150That goofus and gallant post really bugged you, huh? 'Cause you straight up went and tried to copy it, badly
>>96957160>>96957148Argent's a little upset about his diaper fetish being exposed.
>>96957162>That goofus and gallant post really bugged youI'm the one who made that tho?
>>96957171He's almost as mad as when he tried to shill in 3eg and got shat on.
>>96956127>Genuinely, would there be a way to build an ACKS-like game that was less complicated?Any of the -Without Number games would get the job done.
>>96957217No they wouldn't, they fucking suck and don't work. ACKS is far better than WWN in literally every way and has actual functional systems. WWN barely even works past character creation and even THAT is debatable. Spare yourself the time and effort it'd take to find out just how quickly it breaks down in play. Don't even get me started on how utterly worthless the world/setting creation sections are. They tried to take something that requires actual effort and condense it down to a smaller page count. Instead they broke everything, gutted all the fun you could possibly get out of it, and made it so you are required to fudge or create schizophrenic contradictory nonsense and NOTHING. ELSE.
>>96957093Seriously, I don't know who you think you're replying to, but I also just don't give a fuck about keeping up pretenses with bad faith actors like yourself. If you reply to me it means that you like ACKS and want me to post more about it btw
>>96957133>>96957197>>96957171I really highly recommend that you start seeking mental health treatment.
>>96957298>>96957307>No don't you DARE reply to me! I have no idea who this Argent is! I have never shitted diapers or fetishized over cartoon ponies!Lmao.
>>96957150>>96957047Nta, but being this bent out of shape over an RPG you don't like is really an interesting phenomena. I imagine this is like when trekkies and Star wars fans get mad at each other?
>>96957197Watch out, reminding him of that fuck up is REALLY gonna tick him off lol
>>96957310I know who he is, that's because you posted a screenshot of him earlier, and yet neither he, nor your discord raid brigade drama has anything to do with me. Also I didn't say you couldn't reply to me, I said that if you did reply to me it means that you want to talk about ACKS. So, what is your favorite class? For me it's definitely the explorer. It's everything I want out of a fighter thief hybrid
>>96957319>but being this bent out of shape over an RPGWhy are you saying this to posts that specifically say they don't really care about the RPG, and just find people who call it perfect when it's at best on the lower end of mediocrity annoying?
When did /osrg/ turn into "Anonymous ACKS Apologists." There's not even one "A" in osrg.
>>96957331>I know who he is, that's because you posted a screenshot of himArgent, that's a different anon than me. I like how you immediately assume everyone else is the same poster though. A bit of projection huh :^)>Nooo I didn't say you COULDN'T reply to me, I just desperately wanted you NOT to!!!Lmao.
>>96957197He's not that mad yet.We haven't gotten a navy seal post just yet.
>>96957370I'd like to say he learned to contain his spergouts or make them less obviously his, but he is utterly shameless so I doubt it.
>>96957392If we call him fishfag that might trigger him.
Just (((noticed)))>>96957298>>96956338>I don't know who you think you're replying to>but I've been on this website for almost 20 years every day.My god Argents insane behavior is making more and more sense.
>>96957439Why'd he even bring that up? Does he think he's been arguing with the same poster for 20 fucking years?
>>96957363I'm not the same guy, but we both know that no amount of proof or evidence of any sort would ever convince you otherwise. And yes, I desperately don't want you to reply to me, you're an actual shitbag who has ruined the thread, and I don't like when you post.
>>96957335Because they don't actually play games, which is the reason they don't have a character sheet that they can post for us to see. They are just here from a discord raid.
>>96956370Can you expound on why the mass combat system dies without proficiencies? Cause from a quick search they only seem to be used to give small bonuses to officer characteristics, which are otherwise just determined from ability score bonuses.
>>96957462>I'm not the same guyConsidering you lie the same way and argue the same retarded points in the same retarded way? Gonna take some effort to convince me.>but we both know that no amount of proof or evidence of any sortTranslation: There is no proof or evidence of any sort you can give, because I'm right.>And yes, I desperately don't want you to reply to meNah faggot. What you desperately want is to get the last word in, or you would never have replied to begin with. It takes two to tango.>>96957492Argent has at least PLAYED games in the past. Bad ones that fell apart instantly, but that's all. I don't know if he does anymore. At this point though he just sits in here to raid the thread so there's not any practical difference.
>>96957521>You're lying because I say so! Faggot Im not your boogeyman, and I want you to stop replying to me because you're replies are all worthless. Stop getting involved with discord drama and either talk about games, or post your fucking character sheet already you nogames retard
>>96953555Wow, you really can't stand that everyone else knows 2e isn't an OSR game, huh? Or that others can count to ten?
>>96957521>There is no proof or evidence of any sort you can give, because I'm right.Let's say for the sake of argument you're right, so what? Who gives a fuck? This is an anonymous image board and if you're going to obsess over specific people being your personal Boogeyman, maybe you should try seeking some anti-psychotics instead of posting online
>>96957609>Faggot Im not your boogeymanPretending it's a boogeyman when you admitted you're already in the thread. Classic Argent behavior, shameless and constant lying.>and I want you to stop replying to meNope. You want the last word. You want this to end? Go ahead and stop replying, Argent, and stop getting mad everytime someone doesn't like your game.
>>96957609>>96957628Hit post a little early there, huh Argent?>Let's say for the sake of argument you're right, so what?Translation: I'm completely correct and you'd like to sidestep that.>ERM, TAKE MEDS IF YOU POINT OUT THAT IM A DISCORD TROON BRIGADING THE THREAD!Lol. Lmao.
>>96957650>>96957633>I am a psychotic deranged schizo obsessed with discord drama so I'm going to pursue it relentlessly everywhere I go Will you please for the love of God talk about games or post a character sheet?
>>96957754Are you actually hoping to glean some nuggets of information to try and dox whoever does? You seem really obsessed about getting someone to post a character sheet, diaper boy.
>>96957754>Noooo stop replying to me!>Only I get to reply and decide what can be talked about in this thread!Kek. I'll keep saying it as long as I have to. If you hate this then you can stop talking to me, I don't obey degenerate freaks.
>>96957650>>96957633I'm the DCF/rpgpundit poster you fucking jabroni
>>96957815>Argent tries to shift topic once again when caught
>>96957776Imagine being such a retard that you're able to get doxed by posting a character sheet? You could literally just cover up the name, but if you're so concerned that people will recognize your handwriting immediately, then you either have psychosis, or much bigger problems to deal with.I'm also not the person who has been posting screenshots of people's social media accounts. Me requesting a character sheet far predates that. >>96957798>I'm just going to keep replying so I get the last word in, but I'm never going to actually talk about games or post a character sheet
>>96957815>>96957754>>96957628>>96957609>>96957462if you don't want to shit the thread up so so badly, why do you keep shitting it up with your discord drama?
Apologies if not on-topic, but is DCC considered OSR?I played it at my first TTRPG convention this weekend and it was a blast. Im wondering how hard it would be to GM and try to get my friends over to it? Ive only ever played 5th edition d&d
>>96957837>Three lines of copeOkay so yeah you're hoping you can identify anyone that shits on you. Typical discord troon.>NOOO QUIT HECKIN REPLYING, ONLY I GET TO HAVE THE LAST WORD!So much for caring about the thread lmao. I've probably talked about games more here in the last week than you have in your 20 years on this site.
>>96957829I'm a delusional retard with a hard on for some random guy, I better just start shitting all over other people in my pursuit of reckless faggotry. you have a serious mental derangement and fixation on this guy, you're like one of those people who claims that they are jesus, and no amount of evidence changes their mind. Like I said, I'm the DCF/rpgpundit poster, not your personal boogeyman.
>>96957844Take it to >>96829321
>>96957844DCC isn't OSR and doesn't belong here. I wouldn't even consider it NSR, but those people are retarded and have a nonsense definition for what NSR is.Don't bother with them, you'll probably just get shit on in that thread.
>>96957853Imagine being such a faggot like yourself, that you will post people's social media screenshots, and then cry about how you are too afraid to post a character sheet because you will get doxed by it? Actual genuine and legitimate mental health treatment is needed for you ASAP. You don't play games, you're here from a discord raid, and you are going to keep replying to me over and over because it earns you brownie points with the rest of your server.
>>96957853>>96957840Why don't you post a character sheet? You can even block out all of the written information, just prove to us that you have any type of actual sheet that you play with?
>>96957861>>96957885>>96957896>I'm a delusional retard with a hard on for some random guyYeah Argent, you sure seem to be lol.>N-no you're mentally deranged!Saying this before you make the most out-there analogy possible is something else. You really just want to shit up the thread until you feel like you've won the argument, huh?
>>96957896I can't speak for the other anon, but I don't listen to diaper fetishists tell me what to do.
The raiders will not post a character sheet because they don't actually play games, they just talk about them on their discord.
>>96957885>>96957896>Imagine being such a faggot like yourself, that you will post people's social media screenshotsWrong anon again, Samefag Argent.>N-no post a character sheet now!!!! Do what I say OR ELSE!!!Jej.>You don't play games, you're here from a discord raid, and you are going to keep replying to me over and over because it earns you brownie points with the rest of your server.Every accusation with you really is just a confession, isn't it? No wonder you're still keeping this going after insisting you want it to end wew.
>>96957910I bet you know several of them that you are obsessed with. Thanks for the absolutely worthless reply, try to keep your fetishes to yourself please.
>>96957920True, that's why the discord troon, ArgentAegis has begun spamming the thread after his discord got revealed.
>>96957900You will never post a character sheet because you never play games. You're a raider from a discord obsessed with some guy and it's really pathetic. I hope that you get treatment and don't end up in a state hospital.
>>96957933Another confession. Argent is in an ENTIRE SERVER of MLP diaper fetishists.The sad thing is he's probably such a fucking outcast even there that he can't get a proper brigade going.
>>96957776Yes, that's exactly what I expect and want. For someone to prove they play games by posting a character sheet, that way I can analyze and cross reference the handwriting in order to confirm their identity. From there I want to show up to their house and smash their (you're) fucking skull in with a hammer in front of your horrified terrified family
>>96957943You will never stop replying and demanding others adhere to your ever-shifting proof standards because you're a discord troon that admitted to brigading the thread already.
Hi guys, argentaegis here, just wanted to say: ACKS good.stay litty, /tg/!
>>96957957I'll stop demanding a character sheet as soon as even one single person posts one as proof that they actually play. But you won't do it, because you're a troll that doesn't play games, so you'll deflect by claiming that if you post a character sheet, people will somehow find out your IRL identity. Can you do this crying, after you post screenshots of people's social media. It's really interesting the way you discord raiders come to places like this without actually being a part of the community.
>>96957776Anon who posted the original screencapArgent is very desperate to figure out who leaked his identity. He's currently having a meltdown and moved to using VC where he's demanding people in his servers post their browsing history. You can tell he's EXTREMELY pissed that he got caught by how he's seething over the privacy of his "social media" being revealed like in >>96957885
>>96957980No you won't, because you've gotten those before and just changed tact. You don't care about proof or evidence or anything of the sort, which is why you assume that nobody else does either. You're here to scream and cry at anyone that disagrees with you or outs you and your discord brigade until the thread is dead, or exclusively revolves around the topics you want it to be about.
>>96957840Notice how he never answered this.
>>96957950I'm not sure why you would confess something like that, but good for you? You should consider keeping your weird obsessions about this stuff to yourself instead of dropping them all over the floor
>>96958008Argent desperately tries to deflect and go "n-no u" after exposing himself once again. He never changes kek. Like every lolcow, he also can't help but reply to EVERY post.
>>96957837I'm trying to figure out why you're so obsessed about people posting character sheets, as if you imagine you're performing anything but the most transparent (and shameless!) attempt at a distraction.Here, I was thinking you might be considering using your endless autism and empty free time to scour the internet, cross-referencing any potential clue with posts from any number of places, hoping there's some little clue like a facebook post saying "Just finished a great game! Found a Helm of Teleportation!" or a tweet with "Played in an all-fighter party, was fucking great", and then cyber stalking anyone who might even come close to being someone who dared to make fun of you on the internet. Considering how much free time you have and how obsessive you are, I'm actually curious about whether you would try.I don't think you'd succeed, because you endlessly demonstrate you're not as clever as you imagine you are, but there's not many good reasons for you to be begging for character sheets constantly like you think that means anything to anyone.So it was just you just shitposting all along? Good to know.
Either this guy is so retarded he doesn't realize all he's doing is covering for a discord tranny, or he IS the discord tranny.
>>96958006Answer what? I'm not the one claiming to know the identity of some guy on discord, and posting screenshots of his profile. Why are you so obsessed with lying about what is happening? You are the one who is causing discord drama, and refuses to post a character sheet or even describe what kind of game you're playing.
>>96958033Posting any character sheet from any game you play is proof that you actually do in fact play games and aren't just a troll.Instead of posting one, you will cope with a massive wall of text like a retard
>>96958033His real goal is to distract. The last time I saw him ask for and get character sheets he immediately cried that they weren't for games he considered true OSR. And then he said they weren't proof anyways and anyone could just make a character sheet and pretend it's real.I don't think he's even capable of having a genuine, good faith discussion over anything.
>>96957983Man, be careful.All signs point to him being absolutely unhinged.This is his whole life you're messing with.
>>96958038Yeah you're uh, really doing God's work by fixating on an anonymous poster as being your personal Boogeyman and not letting go of it. I'm sure the buddies in your home server are real proud of you
>>96958047>Answer what?Yeah you're DEFINITELY not trolling when you pretend you can't read posts dude. I asked a simple question and you assume I'm some other anon entirely.
>>96957983>Argent is very desperate to figure out who leaked his identity. He's currently having a meltdown and moved to using VC where he's demanding people in his servers post their browsing history. You can tell he's EXTREMELY pissed that he got caught by how he's seething over the privacy of his "social media" being revealed like inYou would only know all of this crap if you were personally involved and sharing servers with him where this is happening. And like I said, I'm not him, I'm the DCF/rpgpundit so go stuff your schizo delusions up the eye of your cock
>>96956363>Let players worry about cool stuff, and not analyzing traderoutes and good prices all just to figure out how to make an extra 10 gold.What if I want to analyze trade routes?
>>96958076Maybe if you knew how to read you'd have been able to finish off my post, but since you're just here on a discord raid, I'll assume you're simply just replying to my posts as quickly as possible.
>>96958038Don't expect rational thought. Right now he's deeply upset and just wants to change topics now that he's been caught. I don't think he's ever been this rattled before.>>96958064I'm not worried, most people just ignored him because he has literally zero pull over anyone.>>96958086>You would only know all of this crap if you were personally involved and sharing servers with himHow else do you think I got the screenshot, Argent? Did you think I was living in your walls?
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Yikes, imagine being a stinky discord raider and not even having a character sheet as proof that you're actually a gamer and not a troll here on behalf of his overlord. Couldn't be me, hoohoo!
>>96958093I can read better than you lol. You're unable to answer a simple question because you're a troll.
>>96958107This was hilarious, my first exposure to fishfag being a full-blown broken English ESL. And the last keep coming because he has never once denied it, it's so glaringly obvious that it's almost adorable at this point.
>>96957197When the hell did I shill in 3eg? I don't even like PF or 3E.
>Brigade the thread for months>Someone in your gay discord cabal finally outs you>Proceed to shit up the thread for nearly 150 posts in a row while demanding everyone else stop postingWew. This isn't even high energy, it's just persistence from a troon with nothing to lose anymore.
>>96957392You really overestimate how much time I spend on 4chan.
>>96958110Your question is based on the faulty premise that I'm the one who is causing discord drama, when you are the one who is posting discord screenshots, and obsessing over an anonymous poster being in fact your Boogeyman (that you have a surprising amount of very intimate active information on).Besides, I've been requesting a character sheet for a lot longer, and you still refuse to post one, so we will all continue to assume that you are a discord raider until you prove otherwise
>>96958141You've spent every day for the last 20 years on 4chan, according to yourself.
>>96957521Uh, I'm in 4 games right now as a player, and 2 as a GM.
>post counter went from like 20 to almost 200what did I miss anons?I see there is talk about discord raidsis there some sort of autarch discord raid going on?
>>96958126>>96958124>>96958108>>96958107>>96958144>>96958150>>96958141Out comes the brigade! Spam spam spam! Don't let them find out that Discord User ArgentAegis is brigading the thread from his discord bunker!
>>96958092Then you'd want a game that understands trade and game design, and not one that makes you waste hours just to scrape together minor increases in profit.There's lots of design space for a fun, challenging, and rewarding trade system. ACKS misses on just about everything.
>>96957844DCC is absolutely OSR and you should talk about it. That said, you shouldn't play it, because it's bad and relies on "le wacky random tables" too much.
>>96957935But I don't even hide my Discord usage? My guy, you actually ARE crazy. Like legit.
I've been on the job playing osr for a long time now (14 months) and I can unequivocally say that shadow dark is probably the best one that's ever been released. I don't think D&D should even count as an osr considering that it's the exact thing that it's supposed to be talking about. But the thing I don't understand is where people are how supposed to even come up with ideas for Fantasy when everything that's fantasy has already been written? Because I make something that I am inspired by but then everyone knows already what it is people accuse me of jus stealing stories from animes but what else am I supposed to be using or what
>>96958144>Your question is based on the faulty premise that I'm the one who is causing discord dramaDoesn't seem to be a faulty premise, you make up over half the posts in the thread.>when you are the one who is posting discord screenshotsNah.You're a dishonest troll.
>>96957983I was at work, you weirdo turbovirgin.
>>96958173The first thing you do after work is hop on /tg/? Wew.
>>96958146Substantiate your claims please.
>>96958161ACKS does it just fine, I think. Do you know of a better one? Would you care to name it?
>>96958173The diaper fetishist thinks HE can call anyone weird or a virgin. Shameless indeed.
>>96958108Is it true that you are actually living in Uruguay because you are hiding from the Royal Canadian mounted Police due to being wanted for a double fatality Hit and run?
>>96958168Uhhh depending on the definition of OSR, for some only D&D counts as OSR. It's a mater of definitions really.About the inspiration thingy, bruh, you can make original fantasy without copying anything. There's fantasy without elves, in case you didn't know.
>>96958186>Argent pretends nobody else can read posts and suddenly he hasn't read the entire thread and started individually replying to everyoneLMAO >>96957439 Cope and seethe diaper fetishist.
>>96958170So you're just claiming that nobody posted screenshots of people's discord info here, or are you saying that you didn't do it personally? Or are you trying to claim that somebody posted their own information, and is just replying to themselves? You don't have a character sheet because you don't play games, and that's a literal verifiable fact
>>96958179I'm blown away how Fishfag managed to spin an entire schizo narrative about my existence despite me not even participating on OSR threads all that much, mostly because I hate movements based around nostalgia.
>>96958197A) Not a diaper fetishist, I just played with one. B) Shame is for losers and virgins.
>>969582>>96958197You a big drinker up there?
>>96958225>>96958216>No I just played in the diaper fetish ERP game>I'm not actually into that, hahaAnd you call anyone else schizo? Wew.
>>96958229Yeah I'm sorry I only started all of this drama and posted that screenshot because I've been mad about a game we played in years ago and I haven't gotten over it and I got really drunk this morning and kind of went on a rampage
>>96955717>but what's the general consensus here about 1e Gygax's psionics?The consensus is: don't bother, quit now before it's too late and never allow players to be psionics.
>>96958233Did I say I played in a diaper fetish game? Or did I say that I played with a diaper fetishist?I know you're a brown ESL, but the two don't mean the same thing.
>>96958216>despite me not even participating on OSR threads all that much, mostly because I hate movements based around nostalgia.Strange how you were instantly here once your discord got revealed then. Bit of a coincidence.
>>96958233I have a table where one guy plays a sexual nubile female for every single character. Does that make him a tranny? (Please say yes, I want to use this as evidence against him)
>>96958242Yeah, because some people who do participate were nice enough to point out that someone was having a spergout. So I came in to check it out, saw that it was Fishfag off his meds again, and went on with the rest of my life. Now I'm checking in and correcting the record, until my food arrives, at which point I'm gonna do things that are more productive.
>>96958238>Did I say I played in a diaper fetish game?Yes. Are you going to pretend you didn't now?>N-no I only play with and am friends with diaper fetishist ERPers, I'm not into that myself though.Lol.
>>96958246It does not.
>>96958242>People start posting about somebody's public social media profile on an anonymous dedicated to a specific hobby >People in that small hobby community notice this and mention it to the person being talked about Holy shit lmao, yeah, he really showed up instantly too, considering it's been like eight fucking hours huh.I wouldn't expect mongrel raiders to be the smartest bunch though
>>96958252No I didn't. Care to prove otherwise.
>>96958256Well, to be fair, I popped in a little at the start.
>>96958250What did you order? I made a totino's party pizza and a blue cheese salad but I'm having some really bad stomach cramps for some reason and I couldn't finish.
>>96958250>Yeah, because some people who do participate were nice enough to point out that someone was having a spergout.HE BRIGADES THE THREADHE HAS A DISCORD TROON CABALHE'S DEFINITELY NOT MAD>at which point I'm gonna do things that are more productive.Why even pretend, you'll be here for the next 6 hours until you pass out from exhaustion.
seriously what's the QRD here?
>>96958056Let's settle this distraction.No, it's not proof. Anyone could fake a sheet. You know this, which is why the moment anyone would post one, you would claim it's fake, try to find every fault you could with it, and very likely obsess about it for weeks like some weird diaper baby.You're not some good faith guy who's trust anyone wants to earn. You're just a... let's see now......mlp rape fetishist? I mean, it's unsurprising, but wow.>>96958062That's pretty obvious, but if the distraction is "LOOK HOW ALL I CAN DO IS TRY TO DISTRACT", then it gets funnier when that's pointed out and he still shamelessly keeps trying.
>>96958262I was being nice and giving you the benefit of the doubt, but it hardly changes the nature of the discussion anyways.I will say it's a bit embarrassing to see somebody actually using a pass!
Shadowdark is exactly what people mean when they say "just run 5e for your friends but with OSR trappings".It's a sort of "kiddie 5e" in the spirit of B/X.
What in the fuck is happening here? Fishfag was outed as some kind of discord weirdo?
>>96958268There's just trolls raiding the thread.I imagine they just want to kill the general by lowering the quality.
>>96958246Depends. Does he always want to get fucked as that sexual nubile female character? If so, he's AGP.
>>96958265Two philadelphia rolls and miso soup. >>96958267They're called "acquaintances." >>96958276Says the poorfag brown ESL.
>>96958282the acks discord brigade?who is raiding?
>>96958297Some libcuck Discord that has a hateboner for Macris. They're now obsessed over a poster in Macris's Discord, because apparently he's some mastermind.
>>96958259>No I didn't. Care to prove otherwise.Sure lol.
>>96958304Which is funny because I haven't actually been in this thread for most of it.
>>96958304WOW that's like so bad you guys!you shouldn't do that! like who would want to do that?
>>96958272If it's so easy to take a sheet, you could easily post one, but instead of that you have claimed multiple times that if you posted a character sheet, it would in fact lead to enough personal information being revealed that you would be doxed. You don't have a sheet because you don't play games, and that's why you won't post one
>>96958268>what's the QRD here?A plebbitor started a one-man war against ACKSpoasters years ago because Alex Macris is Literally Hitler. Schizo-lore has developed around this crusade, and now nobody has the faintest fucking clue what the hell anyone is going on about, but everyone is 100% sure that everyone else is definitely trying to shill or diapers or something.
>>96958297idk I just want people to stop the dramaIt just is killing the thread by lowering the quality of discussion, and scaring off newcomers by being overall an unfriendly place
>>96958314>>96958304>>96958288Are you trying to use the pass to hide the samefagging?
>>96958306So you actually took the time to fake a screenshot? I'm impressed and kind of flattered. You did make several mistakes, but that's okay. 8/10 for effort in impersonating me.
>>96958288You don't have to be a dick, I'm actually on your side and I'm the same guy who asked about your food.
>>96958306WTF? I love argentis now
>>96958306LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>96958306That's hilarious, and even if this was a real screenshot that means that you are in the exact same group as him, and since you choose to remain anonymous I'm going to assume that you are even more of a sick to generate than him.
>>96958326No, I think that ship has long sailed. Generals and their consequences have been a disaster for 4chan. >>96958328Bruh.
>>96958334Based, I wish that macris was an actual nazi, then I would have reason to want to play his game
>>96958326>and scaring off newcomers by being overall an unfriendly placeyou don't say!we should be like more welcoming to newcomers an I right anons?it's like totally not cool to drive anons awaywhat kind of a terminally online looser would do such a thing?
>>96958330>Proof, post proof!>[proof posted]>UH THATS FAKE, IM ACTUALLY GLAD YOU FAKED IT THOHE'S A DISCORD TROONHE'S A DIAPER FETISHISTHE'S BRIGADING THE THREADAND NONE OF ITS WORKING
>>96958354I'm fascinated at how you're able to harvest such information, the only explanation is that you are in the exact same group posting the same content he is. I'm sure you wouldn't mind posting your own discord credentials along with your character sheet, would you?
>>96958338>>96958330>>96958366The cope parade starts.>That screencap is fake.>And if it's not fake, it's not a big deal.>And if it is a big deal, well you're just as bad (you are here)Where will we go to next I wonder?
I don't get one thingthe BrOS are claiming libtards are raidingbut all I see are posts who are salty their discord messages have been screenshotedanyone got a link?
>>96958366Argent reveals that he wanted nothing more than to get the info who leaked his discord information. Top fucking kek.>>96958306Excellent work.
I dunno Fishfag, looks like you're having a pretty hard time convincing others of your bullshit.
>>96958378Dude, I don't hide my info on Discord.
>>96958366>>96958338>Pretending to not understandAhhh Argent, you've really never gotten any smarter.This is from a random game finder server. They don't even allow advertising ERP shit and Argent was mocked and derided for being a degenerate freak. He knows this, of course, but wants to deflect by any means necessary from the fact that he's a disgusting scat fetishist with pedophilic tendencies.
>>96958385kek. Fishfag's going hard on the DARVO today, heavy on the D and A. 'Cause if there's one thing our resident ACKS seether actually loves, it's putting a lot of D in his A
>>96958306I think I've grown to despise the "I play games, that means I matter and everyone else doesn't" posters the most. The ones who cry "nogames" any time someone makes a mistake, or even just to be an asshole and as a entirely unwarranted ad hominem. It's the kind of lowbar pride and elitism the board really doesn't need, valuing "playing" in and of itself.I've played with enough people to know that just playing a game doesn't make you an expert or even semi-competent in discussing it. I even know some people that the more they've played, the more they reinforced all the worst lessons they could learn from the game.I think, the next time someone tries to disparage someone as a nogames, I want to use that to show them just how bad someone who says he plays games can get.
>>96958399>>96958306That's about what I expected when he started trying to deflect from the screencap with "W-Well you must be a degenerate discord raiding troon TOO!"
>>96958399You mean the one that I joined specifically because they were trying to tell me what I can and can't post in their faggot general? And tell the whole story, what kind of gamefinder was it?
>>96958406Personally, I've played enough games to know that it takes zero fucking effort to get in one, so the accusation itself is more an admission that the accuser doesn't actually engage with the hobby or understand it.
>>96958406stfu nogames
>>96958409Nah! it's all fake and shoppedotherwise they wouldn't have reported all those posts and wouldn't sound the alarm on their discord server so now they are all showing up... wait..
>>96958415I dunno about any of that, Argent. I don't post there myself because it's boring and I've already got a group.I just know that you were mocked for admitting to being a degenerate freak the moment you opened your mouth, because somehow normal conversation is impossible for you.
>>96958428I don't have my own Discord server. I'm a member of the ACKS server, and while I'd be flattered to think that people would be willing to shitpost here on my behalf, they have better shit to do.
>>96958432If you got a group, surely you wouldn't mind posting your character sheet, or GM's notes? With a timestamp?
>>96958415...I don't think you proving you're actually shameless is going to help you here....Actually, what the fuck is even wrong with you? Is your natural response to just double-down when shamed, like you think that will get people to stop shaming you?Man, that explains how you've become so.... awful. Just awful in every way.
>>96958428It's like um, totes fake. And like, I'm not mad. I'm not mad. I never post here, except when I posted immediately after my discord was posted here. But that's just because my friends told me. My friends who definitely aren't in my discord server that's brigading the thread. Um. Shut up fishfag!!!!!!!!
OK fuck it it's obviously some discord trannies from the same server are having an unresolved gripe with each other and nothing moreI'm completely lost who is who and how the fuck are diapers relatedI think I'm done for today
>>96958272You will come up with literally any excuse to not perform the simple task of posting a character sheet.
>>96958446>Argent forgets to switch off his pass before changing to his sheet beggar bitHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>96958453How come you're not posting with a pass? I've been posting with a pass. Too poor for one? >>96958451A) Shame is for losers and virgins.B) Answer the question.
>>96958368The only way you could have gotten that screenshot is if you are in the same group as him, and if so, yes that makes you as bad as him, but it also makes you a cowardly little weasel worm for exposing somebody while simultaneously remaining anonymous.
>>96958457niggerfaggot this is the internetno one needs any excuse to tell you to go fuck yourself in the mouthso go and fuck yourself
>>96958459Or it could be that I'm also calling you out, because it's a good callout. Where's your character sheet, Fishfag? Surely if you dislike ACKS so much, you have a group you play with on the reg, right? You're not just some dumb brown ESL poorfag, are you?
>>96958465>The only way you could have gotten that screenshot is if you are in the same group as him, and if so, yes that makes you as bad as him"The only way a detective can catch a child raping pedophile is if he himself is a child raping pedophile" is some wild logic.>Cowardly weasel wormOh it's just Argent. Lmao seethe, one of your friends betrayed you and I just recognized your PFP.
>>96958465I mean I think I know who it is, but also, I don't actually care.
>>96958477>OrNah you got revealed. You failed. Double down, pretend it's nawt troo, it doesn't matter because we all know you for what you are now: A diaper fetishist who got caught, is seething mad, and has been desperately trying to figure out who revealed him for the last 18 hours.
>>96958378So you admit to just being a discord raider?Calling you out for being a weird little coward, yes.
>>96958480That's really weird how you would bring up a subject like that out of nowhere. But to address your straw man, yes, the only way you could have gotten those screenshots is if you are in the exact same group as him, participating the exact same activities. At least he has said that he is proud of who he is, while you are clearly doing your best to remain as anonymous as possible.
>>96958487>>96958465>>96958500Argent once again trying to lie and lie and lie his way out of it.>Your screenshots fake. >But also I know who it is because it's real and from a real server. >I totally don't care>I'm not mad either>even if I'm in VC coordinating a brigade right now. >Post your discord. No I don't care who you are. But post it NOW>No YOU IS duh REAL discord raider not meClassic schizo. Well, you're incorrigibly retarded so it's not like this will stop the thread from getting shat up. But at least now everyone knows why these threads are borderline unusable.
>>96958457
>>96958456It's one plebbitor's personal crusade, some rando Discord weirdos talking about their fetishes, and I think about half a dozen anons stirring the pot for shits and giggles. Hope nobody was planning on talking about anything OSR today, we're doing Schizo Drama instead
>>96958507>That's really weird how you would bring up a subject like that out of nowhere.You're a discord tranny with a diaper fetish lol. There's really not anything weirder at this point than you existing.>Doubles downNah, you're a diaper fetishist who got laughed at for immediately revealing how disgusting he was. Cope, cry, die mad about it, your friends betrayed you.
>>96958494Except what you're claiming is false - not a diaperfag and never have been; AND you're a brown ESL poorfag who doesn't actually play TTRPGs.>>96958515The screenshot is fake, yes.Yes, I have posted in that particular gamefinder, aimed at lewd games. I don't care.Not mad. I'm not in VC.I haven't been asking you to post your Discord handle, just your character sheet. I haven't claimed that you're a Discord raider. I am stating that you're a schizo, Fishfag.
>>96958532I mean there's a reason I stopped visiting 4chan so frequently. It's nothing but schizos. Hiroshimoot really needs to close the /pol/board and IP ban all posters. >>96958534You're replying to the wrong person, my guy.
>>969576212e is OSR, potato counter.
>>96958473And yet you have done an awful lot of crying about how you won't post your character sheet because if you do, it will somehow lead to you being doxed. So whatever kind of excuse you post, it's still just an excuse.
>>96958508HE TOOK THE PASS OFF AGAIN TO HIDE HIMSELF HAHAHAHAYou are an admitted diaper fetishist and you're so desperate to control this thread. Pathetic.>>96958537>Keeps lying and lying and lyingYou're a diaper fetishist trying to brigade the thread. You even say "diaperfag" because you're familiar with the term lul.
>>96958532:(B-but schizo drama has been damn near EVERY thread...Captcha: APAYN
>>96958547>I mean there's a reason I stopped visiting 4chan so frequently.>Except of course when I constantly do and was instantly available to correct the record and samefag for the last 18 hoursArgent is so fucking obvious jesus.
>>96958556I say "diaperfag" because the vernacular on 4chan is fairly straightforward. And I didn't "take the pass off." If you weren't poor, you would know how the pass system works, and why you need to remember to keep it toggled on.
>>96958556Oh look he unsurprisingly deleted his post to hide his failure.>>96958328 Was completely and totally correct about what he was doing lmao. Holy shit he's so friendless he can't even get a real brigade going.
>>96958556I'm afraid you have posted over 80 million times and your Internet license has now been revoked.
>>96958583>I say "diaperfag" becauseBecause you're familiar with it, you see it used all the time, because YOU ARE A DIAPER FETISHIST LMAO>I didn't take the pass offSays the guy who deleted his post BECAUSE YOU GOT CAUGHT HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>96958570For the past 40 minutes and only because I'm waiting for my food to arrive.
>>96958591>>96958600He forgot to keep the pass on again LOLYou'll be here for the next days and days and days to screech about your boogeyman, in between the manic bouts of trying to figure out who backstabbed you of course.
>>96958597No, I deleted my post because I didn't have the "since4pass" flag enabled, since you're too poor to have one.
entire thread is just one guy screaming at himself about how unhappy he is with his axe
>>96958608You got caught samefagging, it's over. You might as well rope, Argent, it's the inevitable fate of all troons.
>>96958605Bruh, nobody backstabbed me. I literally do not give a fuck. The Internet isn't a real place. You dug up some ancient posts from the lewd games gamefinder, edited them in MSPaint, and are now convinced that I've been in this thread for the entire time, when I visit 4chan at best once or twice a week.
Oh my god, him being a pass user explains how he spams the shit out of threads LMAO
>>96958614Imagine how much happier he and the whole board would have been if he had picked up a sword first instead.
>>96958619NO UPlease unironically kill yourself.>get a canister of helium, some rubber tubing, and a bag>put the tubing into the cylinder and the other end in the bag>turn it on>put the bag over your head and hold it closed>inhale>the inert gas won't make you think you're suffocating, instead you'll just black out in secondsYou really should do it. Everyone here hates you. Your mom and dad love you, but you're such a disappointment to them because you had all this potential, but instead chose to waste it and be - well, you're not a NEET, but you're close. You're a disappointment to them. Yeah they'll cry for a bit, but in like a year they'll be happy to have moved on from the low-grade stressor in their life. It'll be even faster if you have siblings. You really should do it.
>>96958635yes but are the numbers small? he needs small numbers seeCaptcha:SG4YY
>>96958625>Bruh, nobody backstabbed me. I literally do not give a fuck.>>That's why I'm gonna angrily correct the record for hours on end.>You dug up some ancient posts from the lewd games gamefinder>>It was a normal gamefinder that I got mocked out of, but I won't admit that because it hurts my fragile ego. Also they're real but also fake too>I visit 4chan at best once or twice a week.>>But I'm instantly here when someone calls me outThis is why you never take the troonpill anons. You become delusional and incapable of basic logic or self recognition.
>>96958634What part of "I don't really go to 4chan anymore" do you not get? The last thread I read (didn't even post) was the Crisis Zone thread on /co/.
>>96958644>Argent already has suicide instructions on handHAHAHAHAANY DAY NOWTHE TROON WILL KILL HIMSELFAND THEN OSRG WILL BE FREE TO ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT GAMES
>>96958660I've only been on here for the past hour. It's specifically the lewd games general server.I already explained my reasoning here: >>96958250Post your character sheet.
>>96958663>>Also, I have a pass for a website I don't use. Well, uh, what are you POOR? do you not waste money on things you don't even use????Kek, incapable of logic.
>>96958671You'll still be here though, right Fishyboy? We won't have to live without your high-calibre posting that is laser-focused on OSR gaming? I'd hate to lose your amazing input
>>96958679>>96958687>I've only been on here for the past hour.>>Except when I was here earlier. And when I was samefagging.>It's specifically the lewd games general server.>>That's simply a lie, but nobody else here is a discord troon like me so they can't prove it wrong HEH>I already explained my reasoning here>>Forgot that my reasoning made zero sense and it was a post without my pass on. Shit. Well whatever I can just pretend I'm still not samefagging and using my pass to spam the thread.
>>96958534Like I said, that's really weird why you would bring this stuff up out of nowhere. I don't know why you are convinced that I'm somebody you're obsessed with, but you talking about kids getting raped and diaper porn is really suspect. You seriously need help
>>96958682genius take have u worked out ur issues with ur axe yet bud
>>96958516Even more proof that you don't play games, but you'll find plenty of effort to spew diarrhea.
>>96958699>>96958701Oops, you forgot the pass again argent! What's the plan? Pretend it was intentional this time? Lmao
Alright gamers, which AD&D rules have you implemented in B/X that you've been the most happy with.
>>96958660...maybe relax a little? I'm starting to feel bad for the guy.He just had a meltdown post, and I think it's because he just realized what his "you photoshopped those discord posts!" posts look like. Give him some room to breathe so he doesn't feel so cornered, because the ultimate goal isn't to make him get any more desperate than he is now, it's just to help convince him to stop trolling.
Sushi's here, so peace out. You have fun with your thread. Fishfag, I'd say it's been real, but honestly man. Either get genuine help or kill yourself. You can't keep doing this.
>>96958644>that discord fetishist anon has that picrel saved on his driveOK now I'm concernedDON'T DO IT PASS-ANONthere must be something for you in life?surely you can turn your life around with enough therapy?
>>96958711I don't think it's possible to convince him, he's just a bad actor. At this point he's just kind of trolling himself.
>>96958708Are you just replying to random people assuming that they are the same person?
>>96958707Lighten up. No one needs to prove anything to you.
>>96958716See you in the next 60 seconds when you samefag agai->>96958722Oh it didn't even take you that long lmao
>>96958548That doesn't matter because it's still off topic for this thread, just like Shadowdark is considered osr and also off topic.But that's pretty obvious for anybody who isn't a brain dead ESL
>>96958725You don't play games, which is why you don't have a character sheet. It's really that simple, there's not a lot to it, and it's laughable how hard you're trying to fit in here despite being a discord raid tourist. >>96958730You really are just givin' her huh?
>>96958732>>96958716>brain dead ESLAnother Argentism. Anon was right, he's not going anywhere until he passes out.
>>96958709this must be the most hilarious post among all this shitshow of a threadand all because some butthurt nigger couldn't just walk past and pretend he doesn't even have a clue the screenshots outed him / his fACK-buddy or whoever
>>96958740Argent a character sheet was already posted. You said ANY sheet was fine, what's the problem? Why are you shifting the goalposts?Were you maybe... Lying?
>>96958722This your first time with schizoposters? They always think the other posters here are like the voices in their heads.
The discord trolls have plenty to say when it comes to csam and diaper fetishes, and yet they are unsurprisingly extremely silent when it comes to having a character sheet from one of the many games they play!
>>96958748He's incapable of not engaging with something that slights him. Guy has an insane ego and MUST reply, MUST correct the record, MUST tell you you're wrong, no matter how disruptive it is, how stupid it makes him look, or how obvious it is that he's lying.
>>96958304>>96958323If you used your brain and not your ass you would see that this started because some dumb faggot got buttblasted that someone did not like a story about fish.
>>96958789No, originally it was because a guy's diapers smelled like rotten fish.
>>96958752Haha yeah, pretending like you posted an actual character sheet and not just you typing your deranged fantasies into a blank page isn't really a good look. If it's so easy to fake a character sheet, you would be able to post one and show us the game you're playing.
>>96958740I'm genuinely starting to feel really bad for you. I'm also worried about everyone that you're trying to drag down with you.I don't know how many people have told you this before, but I hope you remember it this time: Nothing good comes out of trolling. Not for you, not for anyone. There's still a chance to... fuck, I don't even honestly know if there's a chance to stop things from getting any worse. Mostly for you, but I don't think you're the kind who self-destructs quietly.Fuck. I know it's a waste of time, but I guess that's enough to say I tried.
>>96958789That's actually just you, the resident ESL retard known as fishfag!You don't play games, you don't talk about games, you just reply to random posters with incredibly inane pureile insults that you repeat over and over.
>>96958732>OSR is off topic in the OSR thread. It seems like the brain dead ESL is you, retard.
>>96958745Still very fascinating how you are so familiar with his mannerisms and interests, and in a position to be able to see his supposedly private posts? He must have pissed you off in the same server and now you recruited your tranny van to brigade us
>>96958805>>96958816>Posting any character sheet from any game you play is proof that you actually do in fact play games>Except that one, that doesn't count because I said so.Kek.
>>96958818>Don't mind me I'm just posting about somebody else while inadvertently letting it slip that it's actually me! This meme used to be funny like 10 years ago
>>96958830Yes, that's literally how it works you mongoloid ESL. Is Shadow dark on topic? Is knave on topic? No they aren't, because unlike your buddies on Reddit we exclude a large number of games that others consider to be on topic. You're too fucking dense to absorb this fact though
>>96958831>Heh, you recognized me? Well that's because you're a tranny too!While Argent will never be a woman, he certainly has mastered effeminate "reasoning".
>>96958834I guess it was too much to assume that you would post in good faith and actually display a real character sheet instead of you typing out the word diaper again :-)
>>96958851NTA, and you really need to stick to "I' instead of trying to say "we".
>>96958851Woah buddy, can you try staying civil? We might do things differently around here but you don't have to be a dick to the newfriends.
>>96958855Again, I'm not the person you think you are replying to, but yes it is very fascinating how you are very intimately familiar with this person, to the point of apparently being in the same social club as him, and angrily obsessed to the point of posting about him on 4chan. I don't think I've ever quite seen this phenomena before.Is this like the opposite of a parasocial attachment?
>>96958801It sounds like you need to stop sniffing diapers.>>96958816Yes, you are a retarded ESL faggot who played zero games and missed that I did not say I hated the fish story because reading is too hard for you.
>>96958861Noooo that sheet doesn't count! It's not a real sheet! I decide what is real and isn't and which of my ever-shifting definitions is the real one at any given moment, just like I decide whether I'm woman or man when I feel like it! How DARE you FISHFAGS not accede to my every demand?!
>>96958851Yes, you don't know how threads work because you are too busy being retarded.
>>96958843It was just auto correct. The point I'm asking still holds. Why does it matter and why do you care so much?
>>96958864Why don't you answer the questions, is Shadow dark on topic? Is knave on topic?>>96958868He isn't new, he is a troll that has been shitting up the thread for years, and has recently started spreading into other generals. :)
>>96958895>He isn't new, he is a troll that has been shitting up the thread for years, and has recently started spreading into other generals.Not saying you're lying, but do you have actual proof or is this schizophrenia?
>>96958889>ESL fishfag admits he thinks shadowdark and knave are on topic for this threadAnd this is why people call you a stupid fucking moron. Go make your own thread instead of shitting your pants in public and making us clean up your mess.
>>96958861>good faithYou'd need to ask in good faith first.Hell, you need to do ANYTHING in good faith first.
>>96958904>Go make your own thread instead of shitting your pants in publicYou tell em! This thread's leader, Empress Argent, has decreed you may only shit in diapers.
>>96958904>retard fails at reading because his brain is old sock.
>>96958905The amount of mental gymnastics and cope that you will come up with in order to not produce a character sheet is astounding.
>>96958851>>96958868>>96958895>>96958903This is starting to look like one of his puppet shows.
>>96958748It was funny at first but now its just dull, like two regenerating trolls clubbing and insulting each other back and forth until exhaustion. Not a problem in and of itself, but they're doing it in MY thread, damn it!
>>96958907For a long time I actually thought you were ESL but now I think you're a broken chatbot. None of you replies are actually in context to the person you're replying to, it's all just formulaic nonsense like a random generator or something
>>96958915I know screenshots aren't absolute proof, but I really am just asking for evidence.
>>96958907>Literal ESL who can't even type a coherent sentence thanks shadowdark and knave belong on /osrg/Fucking kek, you love to see it
>>96958940>>96958925>For a long timeHow long exactly? All 20 years you've spent daily on 4chan, Argent?
>>96958929No, no you're not.Think how anyone would actually see this, and whether anyone would bother asking someone so completely untrustworthy anything. No one in the world says "lie to me" when they see a person having a spastic meltdown.
>>96958906For making fun of something, you really seem obsessed about it. I bet you're one of those guys who would fuck a dude in the ass to show how gay the other guy is, huh?
For how much they are protesting the request to produce a character sheet, it's incredibly surprising how they have multiple times try to cry that if they post a character sheet they will get doxed. That's how you know that this is a personal vendetta, because if he posts his handwriting apparently he will be immediately found out for the bullshit he is pulling
>>96958956>No, no you're not.Well, it's true that I expect zero evidence to be offered and for the guy to just go "Look you HAVE to believe me, trust me I can read poster auras it's the same guy". But I am earnestly asking nevertheless, if only because I'm confident the answer is gonna be funny.
>>96958940Yes, you love being retarded.
>>96958929You played your hand with >>96958868Only trolls imagine the "OSR General" isn't "The general for discussing OSR" and instead "A private hugbox for the kind of dipshit who wants to try and impose their own independent idea of what OSR should be."
>>96958925Maybe you should try thinking for once.
>>96958957>For making fun of something, you really seem obsessed about it.That's right sista! Everytime they mock us for being gay and retarded we're just living rent free in their heads, HEH.
>>96958986You really seem fixated on this diaper thing, how early did you start having these kind of thoughts?
>>96958983I don't really see how. Nowhere did I implicitly agree or disagree with what he said, I just told him to tone it down if he wants to make other people understand his point of view.
>>96958992Diaperfriend, you're not as clever as you imagine.
>>96958985>>96958977Is shadowdark on topic?Is knave?
>>96958991>You really seem fixated on this diaper thing>Says local troon who just brought it up unpromptedThe word tricks really don't work when you have a room temperature IQ, Argent.
>>96958991The thing is, it is genuinely funny that you're not just a troll, but a troll with a really embarrassing fetish. Do you really think trying a NoU is gonna get people to stop making fun of you?
>>96958983Actually, that's exactly what it is, and you can make your own thread if you feel like you disagree :-) By the way, please answer the following questions: Is Shadowdark on topic for this thread?Is knave?
>>96959019>>96959005What's the matter, are you prejudiced?
My honest opinion about what is happening in this thread:The troll is replying to himself, faking an argument to just shit on the general. Also he has an humiliation fetish, among many other mental problems.
>if I post a character sheet, people will dox me! So uh, how exactly does that work? Like is your character name recognizable enough? Would they recognize your handwriting? Also, why would you be afraid of people knowing you posted your character sheet here? Furthermore, who would be familiar enough with you to recognize your handwriting from a character sheet, that is also somebody that posts here, but that you are afraid would recognize that you also post here?This is a very strange set of copes
Would someone please explain how we got from mysterious Fishfag to Fishfag is apparently some hyperautist discord guy who actually posts positively about ACKs all the time? Are there a bunch of deleted posts on one of the 30 generals he's in, or what? This is all incomprehensible.
>>96959027>Actually, that's exactly what it isThen you can't call what you want the /osrg/. If someone said "Hey, the /5eg/ is not for discussing 5e, it's for discussing pre-2024 5e only", that would be incredibly misleading and confusing. He would be asked to instead make a /pre-20245eg/.It's really quite that simple. I understand you want to trick people curious about OSR to fall into your weird personal idealogy, but that's really just more of you being shameless and thinking it's not obvious what you hope to do.
>You MUST obey the commands of a diaper fetishist!I could not imagine ever being so cucked as to do anything someone so pathetic demanded that I do.
>>96959064Fishfag has always been the mocking name of the guy who hates ACKS. After months of being called this he tried to turn the tables by claiming that fishfag is in fact the name of somebody who does like ACKS, but after months of already being made fun of, it didn't work
>>96959069No actually, whoever makes the thread can call it whatever they want, while simultaneously deciding what is and is not on topic. If you don't like this, you can either feel free to make your own new thread, or you can go and post on reddit.If you don't agree with me, just please answer the following questions: Is Shadowdark on topic Is knave on topic?
>>96952691NEW THREAD>>96959083>>96959083
>>96959071Not sure why you're calling out your diaper fetish like that, but we weren't going to follow your demands anyways.
>>96959064Someone (Fishfag? Some guy? A trooncorder? All three? Who knows) randomly dropped a screenshot of a discord troon named ArgentAegis talking about OSRG and whining about fishfag to several other discord troons. The truth of this screenshot wasn't verified.Another anon said he recognized him and dropped the discord name of the guy.Then a third anon said he knew him from a different server where he'd immediately started shilling ACKS and talking about having a friend into MLP diaper fetish, and playing in a diaper fetish game himself.Argent then showed up ITT (And the last thread I think) to confirm it was him, began spamming the thread, and has switched between pretending he was never here and never posts here anyways, saying he's been posting here every day for 20 years, saying he has no discord, saying he had friends in his discord server alert him, using a 4chan pass to try and samefag (He deleted some of his own posts where he fucked up and left the pass on/forgot to keep it on).And now you're here where you're watching the last hours of a crash out because he's mad that someone leaked his posts.
>>96959092Latest dogshit hijack thread by our schizo. Someone will make a proper thread once we're well past the current page 3.
>>96959111Trips of truth.Argent is a schizophrenic who will lie compulsively, expect him to invent his own version of events and start rolling back on things he admitted to.Not that it really matters, he's dedicated every waking second that isn't spent jerking off to ruining these threads and paypigs for a pass just to spam more.
>>96959141Who's that? I've only been following this thread for a couple weeks, is this guy unknown lol cow or something? I'm very curious
>>96959079Actually, the guy who decided to try calling you fishfag did get the most butthurt response out of you the board ever saw, so I'd say in that regard it definitely worked. I don't even really know why it got you so upset, aside from maybe you realizing how much work you need to put in to keep your boogeyman from falling apart like everything else you do.And, between ACKShill/fishfag/fishfagfag/Trollcow/Argent and whatever other nicknames people have dropped on you, you're really getting a lot of people to hate you. They're not at all intimidated by your efforts to turn them all into a boogeyman, nor by the idea that you're pre-empting it so they can't turn you into a boogeyman instead.I understand you're kind of just bullshitting here, but I think you should be concerned about gaslighting yourself if you keep it up. You're already not acting rationally, and when you start eating your own shit, well, that's a cycle that can only get worse and worse.
>>96959154I'm not sure who you think you're replying to, so I'll just assume you didn't mean to reply to me?
>>96959148>is this guy unknown lol cow or something? Basically. His discord got posted here earlier today and he couldn't help but confirm it was him who's been shitting up these threads consistently.He's an MLP diaper fetishist, shills ACKS here, and anywhere else he goes, and has a host of other mental illnesses.
>>96959154>You're already not acting rationally, and when you start eating your own shit, well, that's a cycle that can only get worse and worse.Aha but you forget, that's his fetish.
>>96959169Okay, but what's the history? Because it just sounds like someone got mad today and shit posted some guy that he's in the same server with?
>>96959217Yeah, that's the part I'm confused about, too. Some guy with literally 14,000 posts in the ACKS server (yes, I looked) comes here to anonymously shit on ACKS all day? How does this track even for a schizo? I mean, the meltdown is impressive and fishfag is clearly posting in this thread and making hijack threads simultaneously, but it's all still weird.
>>96959217Well, if you haven't been here long you probably haven't seen much of it, but this is the guy that's been posting multiple generals, shitting up the NSRG, gets into long tirades about a bogeyman he calls "fishfag", and has tried to shill ACKS, an OSR system, in the 3eg, 5eg, pf1e, and the occasional 4e threads we've gotten, as well as any other places where he can somehow squeeze it into the thread topic.If you ever see a thread devolve into 100+ posts of constant shitflinging over nothing, it's Argent doing it.
>>96959234>14,000 posts in the ACKS serverJesus christ no wonder he constantly forces it here.
>>96959234How do you know how many posts he has, unless you're also part of the ACKS Discord?
>>96959246I am in fact part of the ACKS discord. And the Frog God one. And the CAG one, and the etc etc. There's a lot of OSR servers outside the hellish purple one.
>>96959234Sounds like you must obviously have it mixed up, I doubt he's going to have that much dedication to a game while also posting against it.>>96959237Okay but that's not what you first mentioned when I asked, so can you actually show me what you're talking about or is this just made up nonsense
>>96959257Nah, just hang around and you'll see it. If you don't see it, well hey, you're better off anyways because it's just a bunch of shitposting from a schizophrenic shill and nunna this really matters if it doesn't affect you.
>>96959257>>96959267We all see what you're doing fishfag. You're talking to yourself again with sockpuppets just like usual.
>>96959267Lmao nah sounds like he's your boyfriend and he pissed you off and so you're having a public spergout over it
>>96959276No I actually like ACKS, fishfag is the anti ACKS poster.
>>96959291>>96959267>>96959257Nah nah nah nice try fishfag I can see what you're doing by trying to change the story around now that you've been caught. Nice try. You were trying to troll all along to shift the blame onto someone else when you're the fucking thread hijacker.
>>96959291>>96959302>Argent is once again back to troll and samefag and desperately shift topicsWew, and I thought the "newfag" was just dense. My mistake for assuming good faith when we have an autistic troon brigading us.
>>96959313At this point nobody new fucking shows up here anyways. It's just Argent trolling the few anons that remain and trying to get his fellow discord troons to brigade every so often.
>>96959257NTA, but if you just check the archive for "fishfag", you're gonna see some of the most intense autism this board has ever had. Wouldn't personally recommend it.He also would do this thing where he would flood threads in a way where it's pretty clear he didn't even care how obviously he was doing it. https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96896564/#q96897496
>>96959332Fishfag USED to be the term for Tau players and their BS. We should bring it back and forget about whatever boogieman Trollcow has, and actually talk about OSR again
>>96959337Fuck off fishfag.
>>96959313>>96959302>Obsessed with his discord boyfriend enough to have a public melty over himKek you're a gem
>>96959332So fishfag is some homosexual anti ACKS namefag?Uhhhkay
>>96959337OSR like Shadowdark and Knave by chance?
>>96959365There is no fishfag. It's just what Trollcow calls everyone because he thinks this board is completely stupid and can be tricked by him.
>>96959379Fuck off fishfag.
>>96959379So why'd you tell me to look it up in the archive you fuckin bozo
>>96959407It's just what Trollcow calls everyone because he thinks this board is completely stupid and can be tricked by him.
>>96959379>fishfag projects his idiocy onto everyone else2e will never be OSR, ACKS is not bad, and Nightlands is a fine old book. Sorry to hear your discord boyfriend dumped you though
>>96959413You sound like an absolute buffoon at this point
>>96959413Fuck off fishfag.
>>96959419>diaper-eating lolcow troll calls someone else a buffoonlol
>>96959436I'm not your boyfriend youre obsessed with, lackwit
>>96959413You're talking to trollcow. Remember, he bought the pass and uses it to spam and samefag 24/7. This is the first time he's had a meltdown on this scale though since his identity got exposed as ArgentAegis.
>>96959596Did he break up with you or something?
>>96957016>That's why we need laws, not just logical judges.If people trust the judge, they do not need laws. The reason we have laws is because no one is choosing to trust judges, they are being forced to abide by them, hence a communal contract; one used in part to try and keep bad judges from abusing the system.With RPGs, players can choose to trust in their DM's judgements, if the DM has proven sufficiently capable in making sound judgments the players respect.The more rules you need to bring up and use in place of your own logic and reasoning, the more obvious the lack of trust in you from your players.If your players feel the world is arbitrary and based on whim unless they see you following some rules from a book, then that means you lack the intelligence and rhetoric to make and communicate decisions that do not look irrational.