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>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com/
https://www.pdhrec.com/

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>TQ
What is your favorite color pairing? Your least favorite?
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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serious question:
why is imperial seal a GC but this one isn't
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Hello everybody. I need help with my deck:

https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/flying-monk-enlightenment/

I need to cut 24 cards, but I'm not sure what to cut. The idea is:

Plan A: Approach of the Second Sun + Scrying with Siani (or the various draw effects)
Plan B: Fly people to death

I really like the flying hate-creatures, so I may have gone overboard on them. I also have a lot of flying monks and Ojutai, because this started off as a flying monk theme deck. Rune-tail is a pet card of mine, but I think it vibes well with the attacking-for-scrying idea, and with the vigilance enablers helps keep me from getting beat down too hard.

I always suck massive ass on gauging how many mana rocks I need, and how much removal/interaction I'm packing. I tried to add a lot of bounce, as that boosts ishai.

Doesn't have to be the greatest deck in the world, but I'm trying not to make a big pile of shit. Any feedback (even adding additional cards) is appreciated.
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>>97014228
Seal searches for ANY card, and doesn't reveal it to all players.
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>>97014228
Sylvan tutor is a sorcery compared to Worldy. It's also much more rare. I haven't seen anyone else have one.
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>>97014236
is this the autism scale?
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>>97014236
reminder that kaiba is an aggro player which is just about the shittiest thing you can do in edh and he will rock that strat to the end despite all his money
so it's really
>b4: kaiba
>b5: yugi (because he's a filthy combo player))
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>>97014250
>>97014292
worldly and vampiric are GCs
so why is the slow version of vampiric a GC but the slow version of worldly isn't
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>>97014204
>What is your favorite color pairing?
2 color = Golgari
3 color = Jund
>Your least favorite?
2 color = Izzet
3 color = Grixis
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>>97014204
>TQ
Favorite probably Gruul. I like casting big stuff and getting into combat and green with red allows it well. Least favorite likely Izzet. Blue and red together always seem to lead to just big storm solitaire turns and I don't really like those. That being said I have been hoping to find an Izzet deck to try one of these days regardless.
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>>97014309
anon are you legitimately stupid
this is, like, elementary school-level attribute assignment
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I own 3 Naya decks so Naya is my favorite I guess and since I have zero Simic decks I'll say that is me least favorite
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>>97014326
favourites
>2 colours
Red & Green
>2 colours
Green, red & blue

least liked,
>2 colours
white & blue
>3 colours
white, blue & black

I'm just not a fan of recursive stax that just make the game more taxing and decreases the fun. I don't mind you destroying all my creatures, enchantments, artifacts etc, but counterspells and taxes simply aren't as fun gameplaywise.
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>>97014309
>so why is the slow version of vampiric a GC but the slow version of worldly isn't

Because it's so expensive, so if you can afford it you get two 1mc tutors. Sylvan has reprints. It's a good question, but I think that's the rational.

>What is your favorite color pairing?
2 color = Orzhov
3 color = Abzan

>Your least favorite?
2 color = Izzet
3 color = Jeskai
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I’m working on a Thantis deck and I’m curious how to make it more disruptive at the table. Since Thantis costs 6 mana, it can feel a bit slow to get going. What strategies or card choices have you found that help speed things up or keep pressure on opponents?

https://archidekt.com/decks/16700549/welcome_to_the_junderdome
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repoastin


>>97013911
nice, I'll add sozin's comet when it comes in. I ended up going slower and removed all of my double triggers. I converted my deck to azula and so far managed to get a 20x stormking's thunder on lets play a game. won 2nd game by having magar copy call dance with calamity a few times, then display of powering the stack and using rush of dread to finish off the board.


https://archidekt.com/decks/17493977/azula_parnesse


>>97013956
>>97014049
https://archidekt.com/decks/17411880/dark_bargain
here's the decklist
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>>97014301
Did you even watch the show?
Kaiba used a ton of tricks to gimp his opponents like the crush card virus
Blue eyes/obelisk is just his finisher which he cheats out
In the video games he uses a deck to cheat out fusion monsters at the cost of his own life which is similar to s mono black reanimation/combo strat

He's absolutely cedh and waac
Oh and he's he only character who could actually afford a cedh deck with no proxies
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>>97014399
I'd honestly say it's about a 3 it seems extremely consistent and I'd like to play against it honestly
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>>97014392
What the hell did he do to him?
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>>97014499
I for one enjoy all of these you've been posting
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How the fuck do i build this? Everything about it screams generic bant value pile but I have never built anything remotely resembling one
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>>97014513
Very happy about that! Gascoigne took me forever, since I couldn't decide on what would best represent him and also because making transform cards in mtg and making margins for extended arts is a real pain. Also getting two art pieces that work well together (style and pose-wise) wasn't easy.
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>>97014499
I for one wish you'd fucking stop or make a CaC general.
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>>97014563
good thing we don't care what you want.
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>>97014563
cringe
>>97014513
based
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>>97014442
kaiba uses a B4 ur-dragon deck that just so happens to have interaction and a combo in it while yugi will be in B5 comboing out with inalla or kefka since they also happen to be in the superior tribe, wizards
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>tq
Gruul is cool, izzet is a close second. It's got a really cool range in theme variety and win cons. Simic and rakdos are probably tied for least favorite. Simic would be my fav but it's got some of the dryest selections in commanders along with rakdos
>>97014529
Monster mash, multi-typal cards (enchantment creatures, artifact lands etc)
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>>97014563
>complaining about custom cards in Universes Beyond the Gathering
>doyouknowhereyouare.bmp
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>>97014204
>What is your favorite color pairing?
2 color = Orzhov
3 color = Temur
>Your least favorite?
2 color = Gruul
3 color = Jund
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>>97014563
Good thing they aren't custom cards but alt-proxies then!
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>>97014301
Even if Kaiba were an aggro player, he'd just buy up WotC and make them print aggro dragon cards that'd work in multiplayer. Not that he'd even play commander.
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>>97014204
>TQ:
Favorite is Golgari. Least-favorite is Boros.
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>>97014204
>What is your favorite color pairing? Your least favorite?
Izzet favorite
Gruul least favorite
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>>97014870
How do you feel about Temur?
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>>97014529
You go on a decklist site, you type the actual name below the reskin name into the commander search, and you pick a deck list that has the funniest name. You'll drop this shit after about 2-3 games because it's bad so don't waste your time.
It's just a terrible version of the many other bant commanders that do-the-thing-draw-a-card. But with Amareth you sometimes you get to draw NO cards when you do the thing, wow how cool!
Sure you can fill your deck to be near uniform in type like creatures, but if you want to play a creature pile there's better bant commanders that focus on each perm type. Just using creature as an example, see pic.

And if you just like velkhana see >>97014517
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>>97014873
>How do you feel about Temur?
I dont have any Temur decks. Its ok I suppose but I feel like its more Gruul-coded with a side of blue interaction than it is Izzet.
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>>97014529
Pick a permanent type you like and stick with it.
Most people I've seen running this in the past artifactmaxx, but you're in the right colors for enchantmentmaxxing and creaturemaxxing too. I wouldn't do land stuff with this, mostly because dedicated options tend to be better.
Superfriends is doable, as you're in the right colors for proliferate/counter doubling shenanigans, but I don't think you can actually reach a good enough density of planeswalkers. So it probably sucks.

Once you figure out what specific type you want to focus on you can start focusing on a good strategy revolving around that type.
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>tq
luv azorius
'ate selesnya
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>>97014974
blue white has become the most cancerous color in the game. The entire gimmick is making faggoty rules, mass exile removal, more removal, counter everything - the entire identity is 'no'.

You cant cast spells
you cant attack
fuck you
counter
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>>97014204
Favorite
>2 cmc: Orzhov
>3 cmc: Bant

Least
>2 cmc: Simic
>3 cmc: Temur
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>>97014529
Everything is multitype seems to be the most interesting way to play it.
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>>97014563
I, too, can't ignore posts I don't like.
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>>97014309
Fell is unplayably bad.
Go For The Throat is great.

The difference between sorcery and instant is staggering.
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I'm doing a buy-out on 8th foil Star Compass and there is nothing you faggots can do to stop me.
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>>97015006
I like playing as /pol/'s idea of a Jew.
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>>97015006
>REEE LET ME COMBO
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>>97015052
Why? I have one myself. Gorgeous card. Is that why?
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>>97014204
>TQ
Favourite in theory is Jund, in practice is Golgari or Grixis.

Least favourite is Selesnya and Azorius, but that's mostly for the vibes, not so much play patterns.
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>>97015006
>the entire identity is 'no'
I prefer my pair of UW decks identity thats buffing evasive/hard to kill creatures and protecting them
Im too busy getting my birds sworded up to play fun police
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>>97014204
>What is your favorite color pairing?
Any as long as it's black. Jund, Grixis, Sultai, Rakdos and Dimir, pure black, Orzhov, Abzan, Golgari, Esper, just make it black and I will play it.

>Your least favorite?
Azorius (add black and I might enjoy Esper), Selesnya (add black and I could imagine playing some form of Enchantress decks), Boros (add black for Mardu, humans, angels, just add black)

Oh and Izzet. I hate Izzets, with the exception of Giants. But your regular Izzet deck is no fun, even adding black doesn't help.
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>>97014563
this. why doesn't he get banned already?
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>>97014204
>tq

Pairings over 2 colors are mistakes and should never have happened. They can't even come up with actual identities or lore for this shit.

>esper
Muh grey and gray morality wizards, and zombies.

>grixis
Generic bad guy color, wizard edition.

>jund
Generic bad guy color, marital edition.

>naya
Generic good guy color, non-humanoid edition.

>bant
Generic good guy color, humanoid edition.

>abzan
Spoopy Fungus monsters in da cemetery!

>jeskai
Generic good guy color, asia edition.

>sultai
Spoopy reptile monsters in da cemetery!

>mardu
I'm a warrior, I'm a goblin, I'm a human, and I'm coming. I'm low cost, I'm alive, my board's big, it's got hot attack triggers going through it fast. I like to fight, too! I like to eat! I like to have children! I'm here!

>temur
Ethnic women and BM(ana costed creature)C
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you like your new Sol Ring bros?
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>>97015006
you are the "just let me win!" guy
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>>97015165
>Generic bad guy color, marital edition.
> marital edition
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>>97015163
Because he's not posting custom cards, he's posting alt-proxies, like the Monhun Secret Lair.
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>>97015175
>>97015157
>>97015078
>>97015062
>run mass removal and make the game a slog
>'oh you must want to just be a 'let me win! player' for shame loser'
>you havent let anyone resolve anything
>you dont even do anything
>how do you even win?
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>>97015171
Couldn't have even made it a well done stake or something. Fuck.
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>>97015165
>Spoopy Fungus monsters in da cemetery
Ok but this is actually cool. Just a shame it's the only really unique identity Abzan has. But if it's going to have one thing let it be that.
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>>97015241
As usual with this sort of UB, it would be far better done by even just by a casual Monster Hunter fan making a few proxies
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>>97015272
Right!
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>make a MH SLD
>not a single card has Narga or Kirin armor
What the fuck is this bullshit?
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>>97015227
Countering spells is interaction. So's removal.
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>>97015302
There is one with Nargacuga armor though
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>>97015165
Why does that chart have ??? for so many of those shard colors? They do have Elder Dragons for those colors in Planar Chaos.
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>>97015311
>b-b-but I don't get my ETB!!!1
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>>97015311
>>97015344
meaningless posts, as in they are not in anyway a part of the conversation.

Anyway.

Running 'You can't play' and constantly boardwiping until you draw a combo piece on turn 20 is boring, no one wants to play with you. If you are cEDH, then go fuck yourself, no one likes you anyway with fow being 70% of all decks or so
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>>97015302
>not a single card has Narga armor
Anon I...
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>>97015366
>meaningless posts, as in they are not in anyway a part of the conversation.
What conversation? You're getting angry at a hyperbolic situation that only exists in your head
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>>97015272
The reskin choices just also feel mostly bad except I guess Drakuseth and Nezahal. Though my hot take is they should've just said fuck it and made Rathalos into Terror of the Peaks.
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>>97015375
>Dogshit flavour text
>Decent art, though lacking in any real oomph
>They misspelled Kokoto
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>>97015366
>meaningless posts, as in they are not in anyway a part of the conversation.

>Anyway.

>Running 'You can't play' and constantly boardwiping until you draw a combo piece on turn 20 is boring, no one wants to play with you. If you are cEDH, then go fuck yourself, no one likes you anyway with fow being 70% of all decks or so
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Most monster versions look pretty fine except for Lagiacrus. Why does it look so bland?
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>>97015400
>>97015366
Forcing you to scoop is my win condition.
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>>97015425
that's just the artist's art style
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>>97015375
>>97015319
Where's the tits nigga? They literally took a pose to hide the boobs as much as humanly possible.
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>>97015472
>Where's the tits nigga?
Capcom doesn't care
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>>97015472
Anon youre a grown man. If you want to see breasts you go hang out with your fiance/wife. You are a functional human being right?
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>>97015487
>he doesn't play boobs to distract the opponents
Cards with boobs are less likely to be targeted by removal spells.
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>>97015425
Because its Lagiacrus
Honestly Im glad my favorites didnt get any real representation because I dont think anything they could have done would have been good enough. Getting a new grand abolisher is a fine consolation prize since tiggers on my short list
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>>97015487
oh we know what makes (You) function alright
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>>97015487
ass is better imo
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>>97015653
How does this post make any sense in your mind anon? I would genuinely love to know.
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>>97015695
Don't worry we already know what (You) love
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>>97015695
Hes calling you a queer, retard
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>>97015112
That is one of the reasons. The other reason is make bank.
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>>97015717
That wasnt confusing. How does it make sense as a reply to a post saying as a man you should have breasts available on tap. Zoomers literally just say words is so tiresome.
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are we posting sexo men?
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>>97015530
Got to say I feel similarly. I hope they revisit these with actually unique cards.
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>>97015738
does your wife know you are constantly hanging around people who call you faggot, or is she in on your humiliation fetish?
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>>97015738
the breasts (You) like are definitely flowing btw
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>>97015745
I hope all UBniggers hang.
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>>97015530
>Didn't get Teostra
>Didn't get Seltas
>Didn't get Nerscylla
>Didn't get Khezu
>Gore Magala wasn't a transform card with a Shagaru Magala backside
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>>97015694
She's 12.
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>>97015774
out of 10!
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>>97015778
You're damn right she is.
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>>97015760
We arent hanging out anon... this is a public forum.
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>>97014496
Not sure what he used, but he put something unpleasant next to the air intake in the inflatable suit. Whatever it was was potent enough to cause a reaction.

I've seen people do it with pepper spray or anything really spicy, turns out when you have no way to get away from it in an enclosed space it's pretty miserable. Looking at the moonrunes though, I'm betting it was something far worse than that.
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>>97015804
>this is a public forum
where you hang out and get called a faggot, yes.
btw, I'm not the anon that shits on you for being a faggot. I think it's okay to be gay. here, have some more wank material, on the house.
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>>97015832
Zoomers are genuinely embarrassing like this isnt even remotely annoying or offensive its just lame to read. Things need to make sense, or its just gibberish.
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>>97015853
>its just lame to read
>aka my peepee isn't tingling
have some more then fag
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>TQ
It's Izzet, baby! I love drawing cards and twiddling my thumbs to get the mana revved up to do the thing any green player would have tapped six mana to do!
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>>97015853
>boomer is confused
what else is new
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>>97015694
>aislop
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>>97015900
Its toph so I like it
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Why isn’t it used more often in the command zone?
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>>97015940
Elfball commanders do what Ashaya does but faster and better and generating more mana
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>>97015940
The main usecase I'd see for it would be in GW or GU to make the nonland boardwipes not affect you.
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>>97015887
>>97015866
No confusion! Just no enthusiasm. It does not ignite joy to read zoomer madlibs. You are free to continue coping as much as you want over your shameful display.
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>>97016005
>buzzwords
go cry more about women's titties on cardboard faggot
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>>97016022
dude he probably fondled his wife's tits this weekend, you are overstimulating him
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>>97016022
Holy moly those are some huge boobs.
I mean some serious honkers. A real set of badonkers. Packin some dobonhonkeros. Massive dohoonkabhankoloos. Big ol' tonhongerekoogers.
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>>97016072
I'm literally awooga-ing to these 18-wheeler milk trucks as we type.
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why do these one off UBs have the shittiest flavor text, the Miku one was the same where it was almost as distracting as the worst art
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Alright, the other night I was asking about the best colors to bully a gay Hearthhull player in our group. No one else has good threat assesment or interaction for him and his 10 minute turns. So I made this, its goal is not to win, just to bully this dude every time he pulls it out until its retired. I settled on Esper stax, but after assembling this pile of bullshit I have 18 cards too many and I cant decide what to cut or if this pile will even be functional. Again, i dont need to win, just harass one deck.

https://moxfield.com/decks/j4PTnaJbx02AFd2IdNkpKw
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>>97016112
NIGGA THAT'S NUTS
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>>97016121
>Again, i dont need to win, just harass one deck.
you're doing it wrong
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>>97015767
>>Gore Magala wasn't a transform card with a Shagaru Magala backside
Im more shocked it wasnt Skythryx
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whats the best site/program that lets you play with custom cards? my buddy and i made a little block and we wanna mess around with it
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>>97016121
I would have probably just gone with something red and go nuts with artifact removal. Maybe boros or gruul so you could also use white or green to deal with any enchantments that pop up. Get a Shenanigans in rotation and keep dredging for that if you want too.
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>>97016165
No, I am sending a message to him that this one specific deck needs to be retired. If he plays another deck, that's fine I'll play a normal deck. I wan him to have such an unfun time every single time he pulls out hearthhull that he retires the whole deck. We've talked to him as a group about how long his turns take because he's constantly saccing and recurring lands and resolving a shit ton of triggers, he hasn't gotten faster with them and still takes forever. If he is totally shut out of the game when he plays it, then the problem will be solved.
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Thoughts on this?
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>>97016230
Simic flicker but with very little flicker, it almost looks like you actually want to recast or make token copies of etb creatures right?
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>>97016222
>No, I am sending a message to him that this one specific deck needs to be retired
you DO know what an infect deck does, right?
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>>97015866
This is the first hot male youve posted
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>>97016289
I didn't realize the third doctor only gets buffed by noncreature tokens. But regardless the deck has a number of infinite combos.
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>>97016294
I understand that, but I dont just want to build a deck that will win every game to the detriment of the other players in our group. I want to shut down that one specific deck to the point he's helpless and the other players wail on him, ideally I will scoop as soon as hes out. Playing some angleshot bracket 3 infect to kill him fast isn't the same as multiple stax pieces that are solely directed at him. If i go the infect route, he will just slot in different cards to try to counter it.
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>>97015302
Monhun is for gays and trannies.
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>>97015767
Just wait till Wilds X SL where we get all the Apex monsters and arkveld with their own unique dogshit cards and a Rathalos SL.
It's gonna be dogshit.
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>>97015804
I considered posting on here hanging out with you guys though... :(
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Why does every deck I look at cost thousands of dollars?
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>>97016363
>figure out commander
>add 30+ staple cards in commanders colours
>add all dual lands/triomes and fetch available in said colours
>add a handful of cards that support the commander
>copy paste link, post it on Chinese plastic robot building forum and EDHREC
>never build the deck
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I thought maybe Avatar was going to force a change for sideboards but for some reason it has all those lessons and not a single learn card.
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>>97016121
>>97016222
>>97016335
>I dont just want to build a deck that will win every game to the detriment of the other players in our group
>sending a message to him that this one specific deck needs to be retired
You know the problem with playing stax is that your hurting everyone at the table. If you do it well enough no one is going to enjoy playing those games. Which includes people who aren't this Hearthhull playing guy. If you're really trying to punish this one deck you need targeted problems for it.
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stax is magic as garfield intended though
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>>97016410
If you would look at the cards in the list, they primarily hurt graveyard and land focused decks, the other players don't play any graveyard decks and use a lot more basics than this dude. I promise you he will be the only one locked out of the game
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>>97016402
That's intentional, it's Arcane 2.0
If Learn comes it will be in Strixhaven
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>>97015375
Wow! It's shit
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>>97016022
god I fucking LOVE tits
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>>97016470
me too plus benis
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>>97016440
I did look at that list and that's how I know you aren't shutting him down exclusively, you're shutting down everyone. Which is fine, you just need to accept that you'll likely end up pissing off everyone else at the table too.
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>>97014529
enchantment voltron
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>>97016521
based
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>>97016440
Infect is the only way to reliably hate one player out of the game, ASAP, no ambiguity, no catching other players in the crossfire.
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>>97016549
You got shit in your ears or something? The other players in the group will be largely unaffected since they dont rely on their graveyard or multiple land drops. Yes some of these cards will affect them, but it would be a minor annoyance to them vs a major disruption for hearthhull. I have redundant effects for removal and a lot of the pieces let me target an opponent, which will be him. So stop playing semantics, and either recommend cuts or shut the fuck up about it.
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>>97015281
That's Noir Corne from the Monster Hunter Arknights collab. It's UB within UB.
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What is the difference between group slug and burn? In this format you should be burning everyone, no?
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>>97016658
Group slug punishes opponents for doing things or rewards you when opponents do things
Burn involves directing damage spells to face
I don't see how they're similar
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How long until we get a dispatch UB?
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>>97016779
too mean
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>>97016779
If you're running colorless artifacts it still seems good. It's a threat you can use for your advantage for sure. Might slows some things coming down until they find an answer.
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>>97016831
Want kind of bracket 1, rule 0: muh feelings, pod do you play at?
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>>97016779
I run it in Inspirit as a wincon
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>No insect glaive
>No "Je suis monte!" flavor text
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>>97016779
>doesn't kill battles or planeswalkers
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Pre-ordering enthusiasts are deranged
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>>97017039
$64 on my machine
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How many counterspells and pieces of cheap single-target removal go in a midrange deck in this format?
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>>97017107
0 because they hurt feefees.
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>>97014204
>TQ:
Naya because they're the good guys
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>horrible two people still sitting in with my group
>basically can't play with my group now
>zero interest in playing with randos
Welp, guess my card journey has reached its end.
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>>97017054
Damn I need to get a proxy
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>>97017180
One of the better legends
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>>97017240
K. see you tomorrow
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>>97017292
>thinks I am going to play with trannies that upset me so much that when I see them I turn 360 degrees and drive 17 miles back home with no games played
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>>97017039
Scalpers. The word is "scalpers".
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>>97016402
A lack of sideboards isn't what stops Learn from fully working in commander.
Also, fun fact: Commander, as in the official Wizards version of it, didn't have any rules that disallowed sideboards until this year.
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>>97017240
what makes them horrible anon?
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>>97017359
>trannies
>angle shooting
>rude
>brings up shit like 'eggs' mid game and not the MTG kind.
>invaded my personal space by trying to look at my phone while I was reading
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>>97017372
Have you tried telling them to fuck off and not be gay little faggots?
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>>97017372
I'm sorry anon
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>>97017372
>>invaded my personal space by trying to look at my phone while I was reading
That's what you get for not putting your phone in the designated basket
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>>97015425
>WotC Monster Hunter Secret Lair.
>Doesn't include Deviljo as Zilortha, Thrasta or Ghalta.
Sigh...
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>>97016658
Burn does direct damage, group slug encourages players to swing at each other. Goad effects, the Monarch, the Initiative, Kardur etc... are group slug.
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>>97017435
Game hadn't started yet. Was waiting for someone to finish mulliganing
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>>97015165
>Muh grey and gray morality wizards
Most Esper cards are explicitly evil and the ones that aren't are explicitly good guys.
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>>97017613
>NOOOO ESPER IS PURE EVIL
You're really big on this
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>>97017650
It's not morally gray.
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>>97017451
Nah you dodged a bullet here. This lineup is butchered with the cards they chose to represent them. At least you can dream still, meanwhile if you enjoyed any of the chosen MH names you're now sort of locked into these garbage bulk rare cards.
>Here's my fan alter of X to be Y from MH
>Erm, Y has an official WOTC Approved TM secret lair card for it now so you should be playing that instead.
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>>97017650
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>>97017240
>>97017372
Imagine being so much of a soft pussy faggot you get bullied by autists instead of becoming such a problem the trannies leave the moment they see you lmao
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Thinking about building this guy and focusing on spamming his ability as much as possible. The attack trigger is nice, but it's only once per turn and it's also not guaranteed that he'll be able to attack on every board state, so i'm thinking about other ways to generate mana to dump into him. Obviously there's stuff like firebending and creating treasures, and there are some other things like heartstone to reduce the cost, thran turbine and braid of fire to generate mana on upkeep. Anything other ideas?
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>>97017746
>make infinite mana
>spam his ability until everyone's deck is exiled
>pass for easy win
Pretty based, shame he dosent have blue to abuse monoliths easier
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>>97017746
Bad rakdos
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>>97017613
I view Esper as "Progress at all costs" which comes off as "evil" a lot of the time. It's a less biologically inclined Simic and more calculating and long-term goal oriented than Izzet.
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>>97017372
It's time to be a normal person and go play with randos
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>>97017650
Its probably the same black apologist who cries about black being wrongfully mistaken as the evil color
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>>97017746
Wasnt the fire supposed to be in front of the fire lord, not behind?
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>Kill spells?
>Why would I want to kill my opps big shit when I could just play touch of death and gain 3 life?
Haven't met someone who plays this commander and hasn't been a massive retard
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I miss playing magic
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>>97017827
He brappin
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>>97014204
>TQ
Favourite pair is Selesnya and least favourite pair is Orzhov.
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Should I consoom some SLs or work on another deck?
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>>97017885
both
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>>97015375
Oh that's neat. I like that especially since I think I run more of these cards than I don't. That might be a first for a secret lair.
And yes, I have been living under a rock/taking a midterm
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>>97014204
>What is your favorite color pairing? Your least favorite?
Favorite: Rakdos
Least favorite: Boros, Orzhov, Simic
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>>97014204
>What is your favorite color pairing? Your least favorite?
Favorite: Simic
Least Favorite: I guess Gruul or Boros
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>>97017691
That's true. Also, thinking on it now, I really just wish they would have done MH as a set with cards that better represent the monsters, especially Deviljo.
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Orzhov is a fun and flavorful color pair and Im tired of pretending its not
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>>97017958
I too enjoy aristocrats
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Sex with Teysa
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>TQ
I actually am having trouble deciding which I like more.
>2 Color Pairing: Simic or Golgari
>3 Color Pairing: Sultai or Jund

The ones I dislike are a bit easier.

>2 Color Pairing: Boros
>3 Color Pairing: Mardu
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>>97014204
>TQ
Fav: Rakdos
Least fav: selesnya, the colour combo is the opposite of fun
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What's so an hero about him?
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I want to make offspring tokens with General Kreat
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>>97017967
Eriette is one of the most popular orzhov cards and shes enchantress instead of aristocrats
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>>97014301
Blue-Eyes is a meta deck every couple years
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https://archidekt.com/decks/16931379/muldrothas_dilemma
Should I add consecrated sphinx to this deck?
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Not sure why but my dumb ass thought she only copied spells that targeted her. Pulled her as my prerelease promo so I was gonna build her anyways.
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>>97017746
Roku and Firebender Ascension to get 2 procs if anyone wants to attack
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>>97018039
No its not
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>>97017107
If you're new to commander this is a way more complicated question than you think. Decks can have wildly different protection strategies and gameplans with tons of variance; picking a flat number is a recipe for disaster.

Instead consider your strategy first: What hurts your deck the most? If you're going wide with tokens for example, you'll want to avoid symmetrical wipes. For another example, if your colors don't include blue, picking mediocre counterspells may be worse than picking better removal.

Then, consider your local meta. Do you play against players that are good and run interaction or are they battlecruiser babies stacking up silly boards? If the former, you'll want a blend of good options including possibly ways to search your removal. If the latter, multi-purpose cards like charms that just have a removal option may be sufficient and you can have a greedier deck.

Overall it's harder to answer this than questions like 'how many lands'; if your commander has removal on a stick on ETB or as an ability, you might not need that kind of removal at all (though a little redundancy never hurt anyone).

If you absolutely insist on pinning down a specific number, start with 10 and see where it goes, include at least 3 boardwipes and 3 non-targeting if you can in your colors. Exile will generally be better than destruction, but sac may even be better in some situations. Explore your options in your colors and don't get too hung up on getting it right straight off.
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>>97018114
There was a point where the Worlds final was a Blue-Eyes mirror, stop talking out your ass
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>Daretti, Scrap Savant can be your commander.
This line of text doesn't account do anything right? Only a Legendary Creature can be your commander correct? Must be pretty silly of WotC to print that line of a card just for it to not work in commander. Like how Wishes don't work (even thought the comprehensive rules state Wishes can grab any card you own from outside the game when not playing in a DCI event).
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>>97018128
Complain about backgrounds next.
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>>97018128
ecks dee post anon
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>>97018128
The Comprehensive Rules makes "can be your commander" abilities work.
The Comprehensive Rules also makes Wish effects not work in Commander.
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>>97018137
Do they? The CR says unless you're playing in tournament, wishes come from collection.
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>>97016022
Based
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>>97018137
Umm, sorry sweety but you are wrong.
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>>97018147
god I love tits
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>>97018142
what you're saying has literally nothing to do with why wishes can or can't work in Commander.
The CR was updated this year to specifically disallow Wish effects, while specifically still allowing Dungeons and Companions to be brought into the game.
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>>97018149
Sideboards do not factor into wish effects not working.
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>>97018164
I accept your concession.
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>>97018170
you have a reading learning disability
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>>97018147
Id wish he'd branch out from just big tits.
Where are the giant asses
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>>97015227
not my fault literally everything is KOS these days
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>>97018116
>how many lands
31 or 32 plus 2 more mdfc.
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>>97018186
Same but feet
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>>97018186
>>97018213
He has a couple asses desu but no feet
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>>97018147
This is one of the ecxeedingly rare occasions where a coommette proxy is more tasteful than the original
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>>97018128
>>97018142
>>97018149
>>97018170
>903.11. Except via rules, special actions, and effects that specifically bring cards into Commander games from outside the game, traditional cards from outside the game cannot be brought into a Commander game.
This blocks all cards being brought in from outside the game, except for two groups:
>309.1. Dungeon is a card type seen only on nontraditional Magic cards.
Dungeons can be brought into a Commander game because they're nontraditional cards, and 903.11 only blocks traditional cards.
>702.139d Cards can enter Commander games from outside the game via the companion special action.
Companions can be brought into a Commander game because 903.11 says other rules can say they can.
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>>97017451
>>97017691
I like fatalis, narcagua and nergigante as what they are.
An actual UB commander set would probably be the best, hunters, invaders, elder dragons and everything else for the deck types.
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>>97017975
Many of the Ravnican upper crust did, canonically
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>>97018105
She's got a solid voltron plan if you want to go that route. Better recursion than the other "buff spell voltron" type commanders, too
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>>97018224
I wish I had the full set :(
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>>97018116
>>97018207
>also run llots of wipes
>under 35 lands
this is some propaganda shit trying to make your first experience with counters as miserable as possible
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>>97018147
AWOOOGA
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>>97018237
where does this come from, anyways
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>>97018222
Yeah, but not nearly enough, for every good ass there's 30 tit focus
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>>97018254
I mean I'm a tits guy so....
Admittedly though my favorites of his are the prominent cameltoes
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>>97018248
Weird post. But don't run 35 lands unless you are a bracket two andy
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>>97018240
Probably gonna go more of the flash route, cloning flashed in clones sounds fun. Maybe even throw in a Mirror Box to make clones of her. Of course I'll still have some voltron pieces in there since she'll be attacking every time I get the chance.
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>>97016121
You are missing my favorite "fuck you in particular" card
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>>97018278
Kek I didn't know this existed
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>>97018207
Are you a fucking bot? Holy shit?
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>>97018273
You don't need mirror box really, there are a lot of cards that create nonlegendary copies of a creature in grixis that also get copied from azula if you're going the "give cards flash" route anyway
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>>97018278
How the fuck have I never heard of or seen this card before? This looks great.
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>>97018303
> a correct opinion?? It must be a bot!! My lands, my precious lands!!
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>>97018319
what are you putting in those six slots anyway? Rocks and ramp are just as dead lategame as lands are, except you can always play a land and can't always play rocks or ramp
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>>97018304
Fair point but it does give a nice little buff to her to speed up the game. Probably will just end up being a pile of stuff that works well with her ability and not really focused hard on one thing or another. Like I'm already eyeing cards that care about instants/sorceries, though the later still benefits from flash support.
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>>97018278
I would probably just scoop if this was played
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>>97018272
>counterspells are for only non-low bracket
oh shit the conspiracy goes deeper
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>>97018278
Based card
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>>97018327
IDK you may be confusing me with someone else. But I will run more cheap instants and value engines amd draw cards. If you are running 37 lands, youd almost never be wrong to replace 3 of them with draw power
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>>97018343
>cutting lands while making curve go up
I...see.
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>>97018319
Nobody fucking asked retard. You read as well as you deckbuild.
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>>97018353
>>cutting lands while making curve go up
>I...see.
Oh I mean dont run anything over 4 CMC ever.
Ever.
And mostly run 2 drops.

>>97018367
>Nobody fucking asked retard.
Noooo you cant just post objectively correct opinions!!
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>>97018419
>Oh I mean dont run anything over 4 CMC ever.
>Ever.
picrel
>Noooo you cant just post objectively correct opinions!!
feel free to post your decklist btw
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>>97018147
Debating posting the Toph one
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when did they change mld to mean mass land denial instead of mass land destruction?
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>>97018469
when brackets started
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>>97018429
that's.. not over 4 mv
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>>97018469
when it no longer fit their narrative
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>>97018469
Turns out "you have no lands" and "all of your lands now tap for a color you can't use" are functionally identical.
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tfw oketra has a new boyfriend
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>>97018533
>mfw
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>>97018467
>>97018147
where is the Toph
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>>97018105
I lost to this today it was absurd
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>>97018568
Kinda regret not going 3 color in my prerelease deck but my first prerelease I went 3 color to fit in Zuko and kept getting color screwed. Which sucked because that deck had Ozai in it and he basically won the game as soon as I got him down.
I will also be building an Ozai deck but that's more straightforward of a build.
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>>97018574
https://moxfield.com/search/cards?q=t%3Ainstant%20o%3A%22untap%20up%20to%22
here are some cards to get you started
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>>97018580
But anon none of those creatures are Bant
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I’m going to a casual EDH at my LGS, a friend wanted me to go with him. I have a Kaalia of the Vast in my cube. Should I just chuck a bunch of angels, demons, and dragons in (with some removal) and call it a day? I haven’t played EDH since 2013
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>"Oookay, that's pretty fair I guess."
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>>97018604
The format has changed a decent amount in the last 12 years, yet the more things change, the more they stay the same.
Kaalia is -still- for some reason seen as a bit of a boogeyman commander, despite being pretty fucking benign by today's standards. Even so, if you explain the situation you will probably be fine. On top of what you said, toss in some single-target protection to keep kaalia around if you have access to it, and you should be fine.
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Every game with my Brago deck turns into 'get Yorion out and do Yorion stuff' maybe I should just be playing the danger noodle.
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>>97018563
WaifusProxy has some nice Toph ones
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>>97017372
Grow a spine and stand up for yourself, holy shit.
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>>97018677
Their card previews suck sadly, you don't get a good sense of what you're buying
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Here are my reviews of Avatar commanders after a night of playtesting decks on TTS with friends
>Gruul Toph
Very fun and would probably be a great landfall commander. I built her as more of a beat down/counters style deck. Famished Worldsire is stupid with earthbending provided you have something that let's lands enter untapped. 10/10 my favorite of the batch.
>Bant Katara
Pretty generic trigger doubler but allies are a fun tribe and Avatar added a lot of fun ones. Don't play if you struggle to remember triggers. 8/10 cool deck.
>5c Aang
I built this as an all Avatar cards theme deck for a friend. Aang as a card is very strong and when he flipped I felt like a God. Won after making infinite tokens with Appa which I didnt even realize you could do until I did it. 8/10 that goes up to 10/10 if you are a big fan of the show (I've never seen it)
>Sokka and his gf
Giving every equipment for mirrodin/living weapon/job select is pretty cool and the fact they're allies is even better. Unfortunately I think equipment is lame and gay. 4/10.

Overall Toph and Katara are the only ones I will be building in paper. Still want to try out flashback Iroh and Combustion Man.
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Reminder that WotC legalizing hybrid mana is a scheme to pump the price of hybrid mana cards.
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>>97018658
I could do a different commander but don't have a lot of 3 color cards. If people don't like her I could go for this dude instead but he's a little less fun.
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>>97018696
yeah I wish they showed the full card
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>>97018712
Post your list for gruul.toph?
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>>97018559
>couldn't post a single example
I accept
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>ward - draw a card
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>>97018735
I'm sure it could be much better but it's still very fun.
https://archidekt.com/decks/17497045/toph_earthbending
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ward - tap dat ass
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>>97018429
> 4 > 4
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>>97018838
yes
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>ward - say 'trans rights are human rights' out loud
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>>97018892
So it has hexproof?
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>>97018923
Even worse, you can target it and then your spell fails
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>>97018605
I like these keyword instants green gets.
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>>97018892
name one
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>>97018726
Honestly, don't worry about it too much.
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>>97018982
Retrofitted Transmogrant (MH3)
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>>97018232
>>97017691
>>97017451
Fatalis is a far better fit for Vaevictis
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>>97018892
no :)
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I'm debating if I should spend $30+ on waifu cards right now
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>>97018892
>Ward—Say you hate Trump
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>>97019086
You'll never play with them in public.
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>>97019116
NTA, but I've created 2 decks with hot girl proxies and I'm frequently playing both of them. I've also made a whole bunch of goblin girl tokens for my Ib deck. And I am in the process of making AI art for an entire Zurgo deck where every warrior has boobplate (though the goal is to make them both cool and hot). I will play it in public.
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>>97014499
Hey I did one of those
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...Anyway, I cast Eternal Dominion and copy it five times. Resolves?
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Fuck it, I'm in my "I'm just playing lands bro" arc
I can't wait to play some retardpile that my opponents aren't allowed to interact with because my deck is bracket 2, all while having more resources than everybody else combined.
I'm just playing lands, bro. Calm down.
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>>97018738
Would be an interesting design space for an undercost creature otherwise
Like a 6/6 for 3 mana or something like that.
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>>97016701
>>97017462
I guess its fault at EDH because all the "top" commanders for group slug there are burn
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>Ward—Concede at the end of your next turn
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>>97019333
>Ward—Gain control of this permanent
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>>97019302
I'd love to suggest field of the dead degeneracy, but thankfully it's a game changer. But the potential obnoxiousness it can enable is just too tempting. Shitting out more zombies than other black decks could only dream of, but it's only lands bro. Scapeshift into more zombies than army of the damned, but it's fair cause it's only lands bro.
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>>97019333
Plague of Undeath 4BBB
Enchantment

Ward - Put a copy of this enchantment onto the battlefield under your control

You can't gain life.
You don't lose the game for having 0 life.
Whenever you would lose life, mill that many cards instead.
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>>97014204
>TQ
>favorite
Probably Rakdos
>least favorite
Izzet. Not that I don't like the combination but I find almost every commander boring and one-note.
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>>97019359
>try to remove enchantment
>get a free copy
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Looking for a clone deck that wants to clone my opponents, but has a backup in-case my opponents are all playing pure synergy.

Is Saka Smasher the move?
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>>97019525
No, you probably want green as well for some simic copy effects. Maybe temur to play Dack's Duplicant too. And then also slot in a few good creatures of your own, bribery and whatnot.
Sakashima doesn't even really do anything if you want to copy your opponents' creatures.
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>>97018819
>Literally exposed ass
>That pose
This is lewder than coomette
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>>97019224
Naw
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>>97018712
>I tried some netdecks let me pretend I know anything about the game
YAWN, no thanks.
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>>97019142
>ive donee x y z
>I WILL play them in public
>implying he has not even after all that work
So no, you wont play them in public lmao
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Wow, the monhun secret lair looks like garbage.
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>>97019831
Not even unique cards
Zzzz
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>>97019157
Not sure what you mean. The proxies were made by me. Or do you mean you are actually one of the artists?
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>>97019157
>My what lovely feet
What is that, Quinton Tarantino?
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Do you think people will judge me for having this proxy? I just bought it.
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>>97019884
goonslop
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>>97019842
I hate that every UB has to be a full set now. Monster hunter would have been perfect for 40k style precons.
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>>97018674
Is your list stax? Imo Yorion stax is much stronger than Brago stax, lets you play cards like stasis as well. It can at times take quite some brain power to make sure your stax pieces enter in your end step. Players dying can also mess up the order.
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>>97018568
What kind of things did it do?
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>>97019896
a monster hunter standard set would shit on ikoria and nosewater can't have that
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>>97019884
Go jerk off before or after the game. Not during it.
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>>97019884
yes. my judgement? guilty of being based.
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>>97019224
I built a deck around this and hive mind where my deck has almost nothing that's worthwhile to steal from.
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>>97020101
>let me make a proxy about my favorite game
>cool, what are you gonna make? a boss? a weapon?
>no. I'm gonna put the absolute worst thing about the game on a card
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>>97020166
ding dong your opinion is absolute dogshit
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>>97020166
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What archetypes are half timmy half johnny?
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>>97020223

+1/+1 counters
X spells
Reanimator
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>>97020247
>x spells and reanimator
>half johnny
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>>97020247
Add artifacts and you have basically all my decks
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>>97020223
strats that use a specific gameplan to cheat out big creatures
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>>97020166
It's not like making chalice dungeon cards was the first idea I've had. I've been at this for a while.

Offtopic:
I was of the same conviction when playing it back then, however I've recently gotten into chalice dungeons and have found that after like the 10th playthrough they are more fun than the alternative of the eleventh.

Maybe modern slop has corroded my taste, but look at how many rogue likes get away with their generated garbage. For what they tried to be, I think they are quite fine. The only problem chalice dungeons have is that they happen to appear in a game like Bloodborne.

They are also important to the lore and I think the surveiling mechanic makes sense for them. They also have a lot of unique enemy designs.
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>>97019884
Yeah. Because Toph wasn't from Ba Sing Se.
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>>97020321
you can like auto-generated slop if you want. it's still the worst part about bloodborn. auto-generating levels out of laziness has nothing to do with the lore btw.
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If your life total is 0, but you can't lose the game due to some effect, can you still lose life?
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>>97020370
It may be lazy but that doesnt mean its bad or doesnt fit into the lore. Do you have any actual critiques?
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>>97018738
Mochi, Smiling Kami
U
Legendary Creature- Spirit
Ward- Draw seven cards
Whenever a player draws one or more cards they mill that many cards.
0/2

Coming soon to a MH4 near you.
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>>97020412
Yeah, you still have to track your life total into the negative. You can't pay life anymore though.
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>>97020412
Yes, life loss puts your life into the negatives but negative life returns to zero life as a state based action if you don't lose the game from that loss of life.
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When are we getting a Commander Horizons set with new and unique creatures like Spaceside Extortionist (3 mana goblin from the space wars plane that makes a treasure for each land your opponents control) and cool new spells like Rhystic Tithe (hybrid GU so it fits into every green deck AND every blue deck after they change the hybrid rule)
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>>97020423
Yeah show me that ruling you fucking retard, not everyone plays with the House rules of Chez Inbred.
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>>97020436
Just hybrid GU? Make it colorless and have indestructible and it also gives you protection from everything for a turn cycle when it enters.
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>>97020436
{Hybrid WUBRG} {Hybrid WUBRG} {Hybrid WUBRG}
Instant
Choose one:
Draw a card for each color in your commander's color identity.
Draw a card for each color among permanents you control.
Entwine {Hybrid WUBRG} {Hybrid WUBRG}
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>>97020416
No lore requires a game with great levels to be supplemented by objectively bad levels generated by a machine. You do have any actual arguments why this is necessary or good?
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>>97020447
>wotc won't do anything bad because they've already done worse before
What point are you trying to make here exactly?

>>97020452
>3 mana draw 3 or a 6 mana draw 6 in a majority of decks
I wouldn't even run this.
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>>97020461
To be fair lots of red/green decks that suck at creature removal are going to be running the hybrid hard removal cards like Plowshare Finks (hybrid GW, exiles a permanent because it's white and lets its controller tutor for a basic forest because that's green)
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I'm starting to run out of steam for mtg, 2026 is going to be rough.
I guess only having a few real sets will make paying attention to mtg less cumbersome.
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>>97020321
When will you share all the ones you've already made anon? I know a few of us are curious
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>>97020459
That isnt a criticism or an argument. Im just trying to hear your actual views anon. What is bad about it? And what about procedural generation is de facto bad?
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>>97020481
>I guess only having a few real sets will make paying attention to mtg less cumbersome
anon that's been the case since 2019
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>>97020500
>AI art generation bad
>but chink man proxy generation good
it's always the same with these retards
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>>97020505
I genuinely did not realize we only had 3 real sets this year also.
No wonder I caught up on my backlog of sets this year.
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Goblins Within
2{G/R}
Instant
Choose up to two target permanents. The owner of each permanent shuffles it into their library and creates that many 1/1 red Goblin creature tokens.


It's in green because the design team said you can use this on your own permanents to create creature tokens, and creature tokens are part of green's color pie.
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>>97020524
man i wish mtg had more catgirls
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>>97019884
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>>97020461
I'm saying WotC should make Rhystic Study available to every color! Also give it and yourself protection because it's a feelsbad if some tryhard control player doesn't let you play the game and disenchants it.
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>>97020561
>i took away your bending
>hilarity from bongs everywhere ensues
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>>97020524
>3 mana removal spell
The joke is that these cards are supposed to be viable.
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>>97020497
I'd hate to release unfinished stuff.
HOWEVER I also know how shitty it is to wait for the online weirdo to get on with his passion project. So if there's such vested interest I'll set something up.
I would go for google drive, but they require phone numbers as of recently and I am not going to hand google my info. Sorry on being the privacy-vegan, but fuck these guys.
Dropbox probably isn't any better. Maybe Mega?
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Is it appropriate to share custom commanders here or only proxy art of existing ones?
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So I am looking for a wacky commander as if it was designed by James Joyce that ensues chaos and interesting games but when I try to see what others are doing they just do annoying stuff like Warpworld that stalls the game, these decks are supposed to be fun to play against and games need to end at some point and I want to actually end games with wacky combos or huge burn out of nowhere, which of these (or alternative if you know of) would you recommend?
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>>97020616
3 mana to remove 2 permanents that gets how hexproof and indestructible is genuinely unreal.

Nevermind I misread just gets around indestructible still an amazing rate
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>>97020648
People have used the "it's just an alt" argument to defend my posting here, so perhaps it's not fine.
Personally I wouldn't mind if it's both well thought out and well made.
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>>97020648
This thread is dogshit so id say do as you please. If you want to make it a bit better I would stick to custom alt arts as its something that every can engage with whereas only you can engage with your custom card really.
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>>97020648
Proxies are still, versions of real cards. Even if the subject material is questionable.
Keep your fake shit to yourself
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>>97020680
Maybe reddit is more up your speed
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>>97019884
>me slapping this card down at my LGS
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>>97020764
Do you really think this is a quality theead anon?
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>>97020649
I have built and played both rocco and ian
rocco
>always strong thanks to extra card draw
>can be built around artifact affinity with food tokens and get some of the best ramp and finishers like Night of the Sweets' Revenge, the fat hobbit and chandra's ignition etc
>extremely good utilization of spells that exile targets but let opponents cast them from exile again
>works almost too well with stuff like Uba Mask or knowledge pool
with ian, it was all just crazy, incoherent shit. I think I won one game with him out of 10 because I played someone else's wincons. oh, and I won one game because I made 3 knowledge pools and a shared spoils, so one after the other player just scooped.
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>>97020649
>>97020768
I think theft may be the worst archetype in the game, people hate it when you take their cards and your wincon is so dependent on the enemy decks that winning 1/10 is a miracle. Rocco is fun when you make him a chef that burns everything down, lot of burn synergy like Ragost or delayed blast fireball
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Is this legit?
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>>97020627
Well, bump for interest
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>>97020627
Zip it and catbox it.
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>>97020841
No.
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>>97020766
So you're a black rapist?
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>>97020841
It doesn't take into account mulligans or cantrips.
It's not too off from what I use.
If I want something by turn 2 I use 12.
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>>97020841
>not adhering to frank karsten's data
no i'm not going to spoonfeed you
enjoy your mulligans
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>>97020860
They were willing, they just didn't know it at the time.
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>>97020767
yes
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>>97020841
Close and thats why mana rocks are garbage.
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>>97020885
this episode again?
no thanks
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>>97020885
OK Richard
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How to commit to one shard/wedge, instead of having ideas for multiple decks, all of which are mediocre? Am I just a hoarder of spells and cardboards, with no mana identity?
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Bring back Junk tokens.
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>>97020917
>mana identity
this is not normal. Just stick to one deck for a while and it will get better.
>>97020953
>he cant figure out how to make tokens work in green and white
>anime poster
it checks out
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>>97020917
>commit to a color
you don't. here are my colors from 60+ commanders I built and played against people. my knowledge of cards has surpassed friends and coworkers who played this game a decade longer than me.
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>>97020841
That's bullshit
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>>97019831
>that flavor text
is that an actual quote from the game
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>>97020997
No it's fucking wotc trying to get the marvel audience
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>>97021017
>wotc
Wait its a real card?
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>>97020845
>>97020850
I'll consider catbox. I have never used it, but I see if it'll work. I am currently writing up a small README to link to the original and explain the purpose of these cards for posterity.
I'd like to fix two cards I have and make one new card. So give it some time and I might consider this thing "done" and upload it as a completed "set".
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>>97020901
>>97020911
Ive gotten through to some of you eventually all will smarten up.
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>>97019831
PROXIES ARE BETTER!!
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>>97021020
yes they announced a monster hunter secret lair
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>>97021017
>wotc trying to get the marvel audience
they already have them fyi
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>duel commander's top 5 is 80% UB
how long until edh starts looking like this?
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Can a crewed vehicle crew itself if I just want to tap it down?
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>>97021197
>other
Never mind I have small eyes and can't read.
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>>97021197
>Tap any number of other untapped creatures you control with total power N or greater: This permanent becomes an artifact creature until end of turn
>other
no
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>>97021197
this can be commander now?
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>>97021128
What kind of trauma did this mf go through to constantly do that shit to his hair, wear cat ears, have tons of metal stuck in his face, tattoos everywhere and still live in his childhood bedroom?
I thought Asian parents are super strict and would have commuted hari-kiri by now. He must bring great dishonor to his famiry.
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>>97021217
I thought you were talking about deadpool for a sec
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So, how do you build him?
Rituals into X spells is boring.
Infinite combats is boring.
What else? Voltron?
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>>97019831
Hotel? Trivago.
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>>97021263
Infinite combats and voltron.
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>>97021263
Big Rakdos
AKA Blow me (out)
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>>97021212
Yes, so long as it has printed stats and is legendary. Stations are also valid commanders if it meets the same criteria.
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>>97020961
>anti-anime poster
>Is a moron
Checks out.
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>>97021340
?
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>>97021376
>bring back
>implying junk tokens weren't printed within the last 12 months
>totally not referring to junk as a color identity
>trying to cover his dumb ass this hard
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>>97021413
Junk is an archetype, not a cid.
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>>97021263
>how do I build a card that's good at exactly 2 things without doing those 2 things
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>>97021384
Dokai doesnt start flipped and its reversed side (the Budoka Gardener) is not a legendary creature. As such, it is not allowed as a Commander.
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>>97021590
Hearthull isn't a legendary creature either.
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>>97021384
No, no rules have changed around these transform cards.
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alright, I'm brewing my demon tribal with him, first time building mono black. what are some tactics to counteract the life loss? I'm dabbling around with some commander protection and on-theme demon auras that give him more power and flying, but I lose my commander before I can do a big swing with him on t5-6 it's fucking over
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>>97021629
Legendary Artifacts which are Vehicles are allowed to be your commander as of EOE's release
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>>97021698
Dokai's a legendary creature.
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>>97021653
>demon tribal
you don't have to reject the fedora man you know
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>>97021653
zzz cedh slop commander zzz
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>>97021735
I'm building the deck mostly because I like him so much
>>97021738
it's going to be low bracket 3 without game changers and only 2 demon creature tutors to find ardyn. so far I'm at 170€ budget
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>>97021767
>low bracket 3
>krrik
Yeah and I've got a bracket 2 urza lha deck you fucking tard
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>>97021778
I've already tested the deck and it's pretty slow so far. my best test so far was 5 demons (including token demons) on t6. not even close to winning.
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>>97021727
If you're having a hard time understanding which ones are legal here you go.
https://scryfall.com/search?q=legal%3Acommander+is%3Acommander+layout%3Aflip&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name
These are the kamigawa flip cards that are legal commanders.
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>>97021805
I can have a spaceship as my commander but I can't have the legendary monk. Got it.
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>>97021767
>I'm building the deck mostly because I like him so much
>i like him so much he's not my commander
cmon now
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>>97021841
he costs 8 fucking mana, I don't want to cram a million ramp mechanics in just so I can push him out on t5
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>>97021818
If you want to be a dense about it. Imagine cutting these cards in half and putting each half on a current template transform card, the top being the front and the bottom being the back. The front half is the one that needs to meet the legal requirements to be a commander.
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>>97021861
who said anything about ramping ardyn out asap?
sounds like you just want engine commanders like krrik instead of payoff commanders, in which case you don't like ardyn after all lol
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>>97021888
if I'm not gonna play my commander, I might as well not play the deck
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>>97020841
>NOOOOOOOO
>HYPERGEOMETRIC MATH IS FLAWED AND DOESNT DETERMINE ANYTHING!!!!!!
>IT DOESNT FACTOR IN MULLIGANS (hint: shuffling your deck and drawing 7 doesnt change the odds, just rerolls it)
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>>97021948
how sweaty is your pod that you can't play an 8 mana commander and that you absolutely have to play krrik despite using a casual tribe like demons
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>>97021997
not him but I usually lose by turn 3
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Thats so WotC!
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>>97021997
games can end between t6-8
one stompy player who usually goes for go wide + stampede, one esper player who runs blink and lifegain decks that can win with telegraphed combos.
I don't understand why choosing a good supply commander to support a bad tribe is supposed to be a thing. isn't that exactly what a bad tribe needs to thrive?
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>>97022144
ah, the infamous slowking errata
are there even any sane people left in renton wa?
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>>97022168
if you're on a bracket 3 power level pod don't be surprised that bad tribes struggle there
>just run a bunch of boardwipes and killspells alongside demons w/ good etbs then play ardyn as a payoff when graveyards are stocked
>mono black isn't a creative color, this should be obvious
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make all decks bracket 2 again
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>>97022218
green is not a creative color
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>>97022246
let's just say when you build a mono black deck you've done 90+% of them
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>>97022260
There's several wincon/deck themes I can think of that are pretty different.
>Drain (Blood Artist, Gary looping, Big X Exsanguinate)
>Voltron (Flying Demons, Commander Damage)
>Discard (Although this is more of an annoying wincon, especially if you can't break parity)
>Lilliana Tribal (based by all accounts)
Removal is really the only shared aspect between these, because you can't beat Black Board Wipes or Interactive Niche Jank.
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>>97021861
Hes my commander and I hate FF youre a FAG.
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>>97021995
What is hypergeometric math anon
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>>97022444
post list
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What is the most kino color and why is it black?
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>>97022493
but that's red, as much as it hurts to say
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>>97022493
Nah, it's red.
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>>97022493
it's red
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>>97022493
R
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>>97022442
>Removal is really the only shared aspect between these
don't forget coffers and friends
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>>97022493
it's ok to be white
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>>97022547
The Big Mana makers did slip my mind thank you anon, as well as Theft as a deck archetype.
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>>97022493
>do anything by paying 1-2 life in a format where everyone has 40 life
>better card draw than blue
>better ramp than green
>best tutors
Slop color.
Red wins.
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>>97020850
catbox doesn't work because the zip is over 200MB. I tried splitting it, but that just creates a server error.
Any other ideas?
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>>97022795
nta but surely there's no single file >200MB and you can just create a few zip files each not containing more than 200MB of files.
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>>97022458
A formula to determine the number of successes in a given set of numbers
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>>97022837
That's what I tried, but catbox is smart enough to realize this.
I get that instead of making one zip and splitting that, I could make four smaller zips, but I wanted everything to be one complete package as I prepared a minor folder structure.

I did setup a Mega account in the meantime, but I am worried some artist might be able to track my copyright infringement on their work. This is probably paranoid, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.
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>>97022547
doesn't exist in my decks because I have principles (no money)
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Anyone run Wayta? Deck any fun?
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>>97022959
My buddy has a Wayta deck, its pretty good
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>>97022991
>>97022991
>>97022991
Migrate, legally
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>>97022959
Thought about building her because the concept sounds fun, but dinosaurs are fucking expensive.



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