Investigating the locals edition>Previous Thread: >>97100259>HH 3.0 - Complete gofile - All Books:https://gofile.io/d/cnJk0N>New Edition, to a great wailing and gnashing of teeth:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/setting/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)https://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8https://pastebin.com/8riDmnhS>30k TACTICA & TIPShttps://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLphttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Age_of_Darkness-Warhammer_30k/3.0_Tactics/General_Tactics『Adeptus Titanicus and Legions Imperialis』>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloadshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/legions-imperialis/>List of Titan Legions with Badges and Colourshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Jccq0V--SwJifLVLwbisYnQeqLlS2pMSiPbGXp1Brs/htmlview>More listshttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Titan_Legions>What size magnets do I need?5x1mm>Tacticshttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Adeptus_Titanicus/Tactics>Legions Imperialis Army Builderhttps://legionbuilder.app/>Thread question:What obstacles are you facing when it comes to making your army?
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>>97116535>TQI keep changing my mind about which legion I want to actually collect
>>97116569Reminder that Gee Dub deliberately changed the design of the fellblade so the turret can no longer depress.
>>97116612It can still swivel down further than the resin predator weapons ever could lmao. You're littering just nitpicking because muh GW bad.
>>97116677>Literally, not litteringFucking auto-correct.
>>97116682>phone poster being a double faggotsasuga
>>97116689Am I wrong though? The resin predato was stuck always firing upwards, couldn't even aim straight ahead, yet you never heard a single faggot complain about that. People are so selective with what they have issues with, can't even be consistent with their own standards.
What's a good loadout for tactical veterans? I figured I'd stick either a lascannon or plasma cannon in the squad since I've got a cool bit for either, but for the rest what?
>>97116714>anon was talking about fellblades>you're "littering" about resin predatorsyou're wrong, you're now a triple faggot, and feel free to kill yourself
>>97116724Thanks for reinforcing my point that you're all disingenuous faggots.
>>97114465>You're choosing to build a tank out of lead when steel is available. And as to the social aspect; women can provide companionship, but they cannot be comrades, they cannot be bros. Women question, women criticise, women needle and shit-test and genuinely conceive of friendship differently than men do - men walk into the fire for each other, women will only walk into the fire for their child.One of subtler sad parts about this sad guy's post is that even in his fantasies about male brotherhood -- he has none, he's irl friendless -- he cannot imagine brothers who would question or criticize him, only quiet robots who must listen to the things he wants to talk about and play the games he likes and be his subservient meat-mates.
>>97116738>he thinks "whataboutisms" wins arguments>"you're all"if you refuse to kill yourself, then at least go back to where ever you came from since you obviously don't like visiting here
>>97116535>OP Too much cool stuff, not enough points :'-(
>>97116739>Women question, women criticise, women needle and shit-test and genuinely conceive of friendship differentlyDidn't the Emperor make the Custodes LITERALLY so he could have some either genuine companionship (read, not another mindless sycophant)? Which is why Valdor can and will disagree with him often and calls the primarch and Astartes a mistake?
Don't drag faggot arguments into a new thread
>>97116535>What obstacles are you facing when it comes to making your army?Time. I'm almost finished a WS army for 2.0 which I never played.
>>97116739>>97116761>have never had female friends>have never seen female "friendship" in action>thinks the only way to "disagree" with someone is to be an asshole or subversive>thinks the only way to agree with someone is to be mindlessly obedient
>>97116535>OPFinally figured out the closest thing to dual plasma pistols is DA plasma repeaters, so now I just need to finish painting the little shits and get to building and painting the other dudes I have to fill out the 3k.
>>97116599Same. New plan is to make a few smaller armies to run scenarios with instead of one full 3000+ army.
>>97116535>TQFinding the free time to assemble, convert and paint everything. Slowly working my way through it though.
>>97116848Shattered legions is pretty boss now you might as well do that.
>>97116864>buckbroken brigadeno thanks
>>97116814That's a pretty good call actually, the plasma repeater profile is pretty much a pair of overcharged-lite plasma pistols. Maybe I should build a squad with those too... but already got such a huge pile of projects in progress lol.
>3.0
>w*men
>niggers
TITANICUS
>>97116871Sort of, it's -1S and no volley, but 3 shots instead of 2. The main thing is they are both 12in range so it's close enough that you see dual plasma pistols and your brain thinks 12in plasma, so I figure I can get away with it.The Saturnines are little shits to build though. So many pieces and I am getting descision paralysis on how to pose them
>>97116959Don't try to pose saturnine terminators too dynamic, going safe and simple is the way. I've tried doing more interesting poses, but that just makes them look weird with how limited their limbs can move. Doing quite static, standing or slow stride poses gives them a nice lumbering look.
>>97116959Draw them in cool poses, then see if you like them
What's the best looking chainsword?
>>97117111I've always like the old skool Rangar Blackmane's chainsword.
>>97117111Straight blade, full knuckle guard, single or double edged.>>97117125Pretty sure that's a frost blade (technically still a chain weapon).
>>97117111round tip or hook.
>>97115014>If I wanted to make a militia army, what would be the best source of cheap minis?Perry miniatures range
>>97116535why the dogshit off topic picture? you are just a troll?
>>97117244Only if you're playing a militia from a troubled planet that explains why they're all short, scrawny malnourished and daintily-proportioned. You could make it work with the right "my dudes" lore but most people don't want their dudes' lore to be "we're constitutionally weaker and less capable than most."
>>97117244Wargames Atlantic.
>>97117111This one.There are even more exaggerated variants in really old miniatures, but I love it.
>>97117262In a game full of space marines (that are still shorter than primaris even with the nu-30k size boost), a militia army made of 28mm historicals really aren't as badly scaled as you're suggesting. Realistically a well chosen historical range is perfect for a pre-industrial militia army. They are generally about the same height (if much more normally proportioned/less bulky) compared to Cadian kit or Empire infantry kits - so as long as you don't have them on the same table as these you really won't notice a serious scale issue. They also make space marines look more menacing.
>>97117484also the obligatory image whenever guard scale discussion comes up:
>get into 30 minute challenge where we went through 4 rounds of gambits before anyone diedthis actually blackpilled me on 3e, I hate this shit
>>97117514>30 minutes for 4 rounds of a challengeHow?! Did neither of you ever read the challenge rules before? Longest challenge I've seen was 15 min, and it laster 8 rounds or something due to comically bad dice rolls.
>>97116612If you want it to depress and hit the already impractical hull shape this can be fixed with less than 5 minutes of sanding
Reposting from last thread. Any advice on where to expand from here, while still keeping it fluffy but functional?
>>97117570Some rhinos and a land raider for the tacticals and ebon keshig? Maybe those white scars specific scouts, or some assault squads?
>>97117677Land raider is a waste on ebon keshig, you wanna keep them cheap to be a distraction carnifex, and they run fast enough.
>TQThis shitty ass economy and job market. But I've got a big LI army together. Here it is fighting against some dirty loyalists.
>>97116535>>TQWill to paint and to come up with a off center non meta build/theme Speaking of that instead of painting my dark mech army for the next event I have literally started painting two other armies, machine god help my spicy brain, now I am painting lizard touchers.
>>97116535>tqUsing wga kits for my militia. Their body sizes are weirdly specific so I either print all 100+ arms with guns for them or keep searching. As an example their guards kit is in scale with the steel legion remake of the old metal kit going around while their space nam arms are somehow perfect for bestigors
>>97116809She's still never, ever, ever going to fuck you anon.
Honestly I'm starting to think marine players just might be retarded. Everyone keeps touting tacticals in rhinos on objectives as the end all be all but in every game I've played so far it comes down to the same pattern >run tacticals up on objective >I blast them off the board, pin and/or suppress them, or charge them with blood slaughterers >I put thallax on objective >marine player is baffled as they now score no points for the rest of the game >meanwhile their one deathstar in a spartan or land raider is getting blasted apart by domitars, darkfire cannons, photon thrusters, and krioses on the other side of the board Like seriously it's like a lack of higher brain function in there, they're simply unable to consider that maybe they should hold back their tacticals until the board is more cleared, or to use the rhino as a LOS blocker (not that helps bs blasts, but still), or to take some Terminators to help guard the objective or fight back against thallax. It's madness.
>>97117813They are. I've had similar experience, but then playing marines myself as well. Don't play the "meta" army of tacticals in rhinos backed up by a kratos and a deathstar in land raider/spartan myself. Have some dmg 2 large blasts to first kill all their scoring turn 1, then start removing elite infantry after. Got a 20 man despoiler squad with telekinesis libby camping the highest value objective, and they collect more VP than four tactical squads in rhinos, because my unit has actual staying power.
Brace for >painting tips today.
NL and IW vs DA, 2.0. Another pretty much easy win for NL. It seems that the night fighting RoW is a little bit too op foor DA hwo struggles to win
>>97117961Another common case of DA player skill issue.
>>97117961The night fighting RoW does nothing against 30 interemptors, he was just bad at list building
>>97118020We are playing casual games, to chill, not to waac
>Thought Magnus was the biggest retard>start The First HereticI'm not even that far in it and he's a fucking retarded. I'm starting to think all the traitors ae fucking retarded outside of Fulgrim because at least he had to be raped
>>97118207Oh don't you worry, the BL novels make everybody look like complete and utter retards. Only the WS came out relatively unscathed, by virtue of being mostly ignored and only written by the one writer who actually cares.
>>97118207Lorgar was raised on a planet that already worshiped chaos, he was raped from the beginning
>>97118207Lorgar was raised by a pair of bishops and you don't think he got raped?
>>97118218>>97118223Now that just makes the Emperor look like a huge retard for not investigating the planets each of his sons lived on
Has anyone played around with Sisters of Silence this edition?
>>97118229He did, that's the real reason monarchia was razedHis only blunder wasnt purging the WB along with it
>>97118230There's nothing to play around with, the SoS "armylist" currently consists of like 5 units.
>>97116535>TQSomehow even though they wrote 60 million books between actual novels and game books, they haven't written any real fucking lore on the Heresy, so how am I going to make a narratively cohesive force that acts in a narratively cohesive way?They don't discuss any squad level, company level, legion level strategies that are employed beyond vague shit like "Sons of Horus are the tip of the spear" "World Eaters are aggressive!". Every legion they handwave organizations like "okay in theory a company is 1000 marines, but in practice this legion used coteries that could be between 1 squad and 700 squads". Every character with Captain as their title is given Praetor rules in the wargame but we're told that Captains are Centurions and Praetors are Something Else (by the way, another cool thing they apparently decided to do is make Praetor and Centurion purely game terms so this bit is double awful)Isn't this supposed to be a narrative game? Where's the lore? Why's it only got vague, inconsistent fluff seemingly designed for the players to do whatever the fuck they want in the sandbox? This shit may as well be 1.0 AoS
>>97118269Liber Imperium will restore them to greatness.
>>97116535I have an idea for a list, a dream even...
>>97118348mein furher....stiener....we'll get female custodes models before more SoS
anybody got a pdf/epub for Ashes of the Imperium yet
>>97118384That's not excel, what is it? That's a lot of concussion hammers btw. Seems to be your sole antitank. 25 Saturnines though. I'm not sure that's a target profile many plan for
>>97118546NTA but they're using NewRecruit for listbuilding
>>97118346>They don't discuss any squad level, company level, legion level strategies that are employed beyond vague shit like "Sons of Horus are the tip of the spear" "World Eaters are aggressive!".I read about the legions I cared about, and I did find sufficient fluff on them. Death Guard's doctrinal preference for infantry and infantry-support vehicles, preferred weapon classes, types of combat blade, how their discipline allows a clear chain of command meaning each squad members knows who'd be in command if their Sergeant was killed, and then the next guy after him and so on.What are you looking for, anon?>Every legion they handwave organizations like "okay in theory a company is 1000 marines, but in practice this legion used coteries that could be between 1 squad and 700 squads".What would you like organization to be like? What would you like to see?>Every character with Captain as their title is given Praetor rules in the wargame but we're told that Captains are CenturionsThat was the case in 2.0, but people like Tarvitz and Lucius are centurion-class characters as they should've been from the beginning.If anything, some argue Erebus shouldn't be a mere Chaplain, but instead a Praetor-class "master of chaplains" sort of dude.
>>97117813>>97117921Ngl, my plan was indeed to rush 3 Land Raiders forwards, followed by multiple Inductii in RhinosI figured 3 Land Raiders was safer than risking everything inside a single Spartan, as it divides attention between 3 AV14 targets instead of concentrating everything on a single one. Plus, if a LR gets immobilized, you still have 2/3 of your force.I also thought embarking Inductii in Rhinos meant my opponent requires a moderate antitank tax to engage a mere troops choice. Either the Rhinos drive safe under the umbrella provided by the Land Raiders, or the enemy's antitank is too dispersed and they can't deal with 7 transports at once.And you tell me Mech of all people can counter that? I was told their antitank was Vultarax & Thanatar Solex (rare), Myrmidons (insufficiency), and deepstriking melta Thallax. Melthallax.Irdk what to hold the home detachment with lol. Someone will deepstrike and just sweep them
>>97117111>>97117462I wish for a combination of those two. Slightly curved, but with a shroud that covers the teeth on the back half on the wielder's side
>>97118235Surely that’s the issue instead of guiliman being impatient and letting his men commit a genocide instead of the symbolic destruction he was instructed to do. Ngl the entire heresy is kinda his fault if you think about it. At the very least he moved it forward by a few years
>>97118714If lorgar wouldn't capitulate Erebus would have just found another pawn, he was never truly important.
>>97118750Alternative heresy layous always fascinated me. >Khornate BA and SW>Slaaneshi IW>Nurglite IF>Tzeenchinan UMMeanwhile the "good guys" of the Imperium are a band of stammering retards like Perturabo and Angron, desperate to be any kind of efficient after Sanguinius slays Horus.
>>97118786>>Slaaneshi IWWhere's that iron hands rhino with autocannon
>>97118827Yeah, I meant IH, I'm tarded. Weren't there some lore in the 40k timeline of some Iron Fathers falling to Slaanesh in their search for perfection?
>>97118827Look if there's any primarch that still goes traitor it's pert
>>97116535>What obstacles are you facing when it comes to making your army?I don't knoe how to make an Admech army because everything is so undercosted, like 4 squads of thallax is only like 720 but so many complex models
>>97118835Yeah. A chaplain falls to the Sapphire King, greater daemon of slaanesh, after witnessing a factory perfectly enmeshing flesh and steel. Slaanesh isn't sex, it's obsession, and EC were sworn brothers with IH because they both strived for perfection, albeit in their own way, one despising weakness, the other despising flaws. On top of their primarchs bring very good friends, that is.That chaplain retained only a human silhouette, for his joints were double sided and his eyes were cameras all around his head, meaning he had no front or back, and could see all around him simultaneously.>>97118872Lol
>>97118927>I can bring too much stuffOh nooo, bro keeps eating chocolate but never gains any weight. A cursed existence :^)Guess you'll have to afford more minis while GW rubs their hands mwahaha
>>97118967I'll just play smaller games mwahahaha
I was almost persuaded to buy some of the BL books. But I have all the black books now and have been reading those in order. Not gonna lie they have all the lore one could ever need. They leave just enough information out imo that it allows a lot of wiggle room for the table top.
>>97118598How does the trivia of which type of combat blade is preferred and the chain of command for a squad (for which there is no mechanic) help you play your Death Guard narratively?What does a battle for the Death Guard look like at the level of the wargame? Beyond I take lots of "infantry and dreadnoughts"? They trudge forward through muck and mud and shoot the whole way? Which book gets more specific than this?For organization, I'd like anything more solid than "here's some basic terms and numbers that literally everybody deviated from - we included this information only to fill page count. No, we won't specify the deviations."I am coming from wargames where things are specified to the level that you can actually carry out the lore that is written. A squad of this faction consists of 10 soldiers, with 3 fireteams containing 2 riflemen and a specialist gunner. A company is 4 such squads, often with a heavy weapon team of 6 (1 shooter, 1 spotter, 4 loaders) accompanying. In battle, 2 fireteams perform overwatch while the third moves up the field towards the objective. They then leapfrog until all fireteams are where they need to be. There are then further company level doctrines, regiment level doctrines, etc. For all factions involved!This enables me to understand how units would act on the battlefield, and play out the fantasy of the world I am dedicating my play time into in a way that makes sense within the world. It also allows me to intentionally deviate from doctrine when/where it makes sense for the characters I'm playing as. All I've found in 30k is vague fluff you can loosely associate to the tabletop (which seems mostly disconnected as the mechanics don't appear to support a lot of the fluff for some reason)
>>97118662I mean, the trouble with all that is that if you want to score, you have to step foot outside the vehicle. And vs a mech force, anything in power armor that can be seen is probably dead. Anything that can't be seen will be bombarded with statuses by deep striking thallax and karacnos mortars. Or I'll just cruise around your cover with a krios and hit you anyway.
>>97118662The thing is that you don't have to kill the AV 14 transports; you just have to kill what comes charging out of the transport. Which is a lot easier, and even Mech has a lot of ways to kill terminators. Sure, you'll lose some models to the melee combat, but after your unit ran away you start blasting.
>>97117770>he is unable to conceive of an interaction with females without thinking of sex as the end purposei wouldn't want to fuck any of them, anon. was here to shit on the concept of female custodes because females make for shit confidants, but i realize now it's lost on people here who are unironically autistic and don't understand how human interactions work
>>97116535Bitch if you make the thread at least have the thread pic be HHG related. This shit is fucking retarded (like (You))
>>97116848> I play HH at sub 3kLmao at this faggot. Maybe kill team or 40keks is your speed?
>>97116938> Belicosa Volcano Cannon Engine Kill shot on some BASED BASED BASED
>>97119179>not playing zmweak bait, but here's your (you)
>>97117698> HECKIN OFFICIAL BARON OF DICE DICE BAGI'm SoIJACKING right now!!!!!!!But for real more LI shit please I like painted battle reports
>>97119166I'm out of /hhg/ images to edit so if I'm gonna keep making the threads I'm gonna do whatever I want.
saturnine armor looks fun at LI
>>97119194Zone Mortalis is acceptable as a palette cleanser but if it's all you play, it reeks of poorfag or 40faggotry, neither of which is acceptable
>>97119217Where the leaks at
>>97119217damn, what the fuck that's hot.
>>97119217> Better than normal terminators in damn near every wayWhat the fuck is this shit
>>97119241power creep
>>97119229anything in particular ?
>>97119244Glaives and satty dreads
>>97116677So we're supposed to only pick the worst features of a range, not necessarily from the same model, going forward? No wonder HH went to shit.
>>97119244All please
>>97119248dread
>>97119208We got a new HH rulebook that people are calling the fucking 'dead nigger storage' book and you can make some fucking memes?Put the fucking horse over a dead Sally or something
>>97119248and glaive
>>97119299Sweet got the other ones?
>>97119025You want 2.0's (and 1.0's) rites of war for the army composition restrictions you are looking for. 3.0 is far more permissive and allows you for "unfluffy" tactics like having Raven Guard bring a ton of tanks, which 1.0 specifically forbid with a named rule and explanatory fluff (HH3).But overall the rulebooks do avoid being too strict on battle doctrine and leave a lot of room for you, the local commander, to decide if you'll follow or break with doctrine. Even the Principia Bellicosa is noted to be outdated by more than a century and be more of a set of general guidelines at this point.>What does a battle for the Death Guard look like at the level of the wargame? Beyond I take lots of "infantry and dreadnoughts"? They trudge forward through muck and mud and shoot the whole way? Which book gets more specific than this?Not dreads, terminators. They did use dreads because they could go where Predators couldn't, supporting the infantry that made the core of the Death Guard armies, but they would also use lots of Terminators. Both their legion specific units are terminators, unlike every other legion where only one of them were terminators, and most only got their second termie unit in Exemplary Battles (if at all). Source, HH1.They also don't keep dedicated tank companies like other legions, instead they bring them as infantry support. But they do have transports, and also have a lot of assault guns like Vindicators and similar (HH1).The book specifically mentions they do indeed trudge forwards through muck and mud and shoot the whole way (HH1), which was doubled down in 2.0 when they gained pseudo-Relentless, and is still around in 3.0 when they limited it to 4" walking. Though HH1 says this wasn't mandatory, and they could field jump pack companies when needed>How does the trivia of which type of combat blade is preferred help you play your Death Guard narratively?My erection confuses the foe. Also, all play is narrative if you write fluff :^)
>>97119317sure, new kid on the block
>>97119293>>97119299>>97119364Very cool, thank you
>>97119364Sweet thanks man.> Invented by IH to murder BUGS, then they turned it on menIncredibly based, IH get yet another win
>>97119387>>97119397a classic now
>>97119418Was the Falchion a volcano cannon before? Or a turbo laser?I don't recall it being a neutron laser but apparently neutron stuff is like an Astartes thing now
>>97119364>AL: trying to pull of shady bullshit>IH: light 'em up boysBASED
>>97119433Either a twin turbo laser destructor, or a neutron laser. Everybody always took the neutron laser any, because the "On a 2+ your warlord titan can't do shit" was just too strong.
>>97119338I'm not looking for restrictions. I'm looking for their doctrine. Which, as you're pointing out, is intentionally vague so as to do whatever the hell you want in the sandbox. Which is very disappointing, as I can get that same level of detail from games that don't advertise themselves (and aren't advertised by the community) as narrative.I want a recipe for pepperoni pizza so I can craft my own logical variants, and all The Heresy appears to give is "some flour, some water, some salt. Optionally: cheese and pepperoni"."Trudging through the muck and mud shooting all the way" isn't a doctrine, it's a writer who doesn't know how a battle works trying to get to the next paragraph as fast as he can. When I read Black Library novels the level of detail is literally "Enemy force walks up, POV force attacks them [with artillery, jetbike, or bolter, depending on POV legion]. There are some casualties on both sides. A side is victorious."I will give credit where it's due, though. In Saturnine there was a description of a battle where the traitors used artillery fire to shake the defenders, then a mass wave attack of disorganized human/abhumans. That's literally more tactical detail than every other battle in the book (titans walk up to wall: Sanguinius cuts them in half. Traitors are at wall: Jetbikes cruise out and stab them all. 10 bajillion world eaters run across a bridge and every loyalist dies. Some terminators come out of termite drills and get killed in the basement by ambushers. The entire Emperor's Children legion appear at a section of wall and then run away because Rogal Dorn was there)
>>97119418saturnine command squad
>>97119457> Only master crafted Saturnine power weapons can compare to the pure power of retarded Ogryns industrial equipment or a baseline human's fireman axeIt's about time
>>97119418>shock pulseFUCK
>>97119457These look fun.Got the standard fellblade and the iconic formations?
>>97119223Cool opinion, senpai; however, I'm going to do whatever I want.
>>97119025Nta but I sometime wish they went more in-depth too. The thing is with how vague things are you can't go wrong with just sticking to a theme and sprinkling in a few outliers most of the time when picking your units. If you want to go more in-depth on tactics the black books have a lot of battles and you can extrapolate how a legion would try to reach a certain goal fairly easily. Using the DG as an example they get a RoW(the reaping) that lets you get vets and HSS as non-comp troops, lets you pick rad nades for characters and lets you move through difficult terrain more easily and safely but forbid you from deepstriking and limit you to a single fast attack unit. There are also mentions of poison ships being used which are normal ships with viral weapons going solo around the imperium, dropping plagues on planets and scurrying away. From this, the rest of the fluff in the black books and I guess LIgma you can understand that the DG, if they had to land and conquer a planet, would first bomb things from space which is something all legions do, land, do a preliminary bombing with chem shells, slowly close in hugging cover and firing, supporting their tacticals and other infantry with a lot of HSS and get at grenade range if they could. They wouldn't care much about leaving an useful planet and they wouldn't shy off being discount NL according to one battle where they broke into a sealed bunker, skinned one of the survivors and left him impaled on something as a message. As for space battles Mortarion's ship is a battleship/carrier which had its stc on his home planet so there might have other similar but smaller ships and they are one of the few legions with a specific "class" of ship that we know how it's armed and how it's used (the poison ships). I'm glossing over a lot but there so much to read in 1.0 that it makes what comes after kinda shit because they expect you to have already read it.
>>97119455What you are looking for is actual historicals, not Warhammer. If you want all the exact details of everything, like sergeant McDuckfucker always shat in a bucket on wednesday evening, go play historicals. Warhammer is more about "Then individual/group did this cool thing!" and very fuzzy on the terminal autism details you sound obsessed about. You also seem to think the legions were more like companies, with specialisations they rarely strayed from. When in actuality the legions were more like the entire army of a country, fully independent and capable of execution a wide variety of strategic and tactical methods. Each legion just had a preference for a certain thing.
>>97119080The Krios being so zoomy has been one of my favourite little gimmicks this edition. It's fun to imagine a Mechanicum tank column bombing along a still-warm highway being laid by an unreasonably fast macro-crawler at the front of said column because their cruise speed on flat terrain approximates that of a Land Speeder and the Mechanicum can certainly flatten out terrain if it has to.(Also, that Lightning Cannon is nuts, I don't know why it has kept the right to high-damage AP3 pie-plates when almost nothing else has but I am very much not complaining.)
>>97119542yeah
>>97119623and more
>>97119633and more
>>97119633>>97119641That's a lotta tanks, what is this, Tallarn?
>>97119595> If you want all the exact details of everything, like sergeant McDuckfucker always shat in a bucket on wednesday evening, go play historicals.Not what I want.> You also seem to think the legions were more like companies, with specialisations they rarely strayed from. Not what I think.Other small indie companies can provide what I seek for their zine-sized wargame rules, why can't a billion-pound company that releases a billion books do the same?>>97119577I like you, anon. Come on over and fuck my daughter.
Let me put it this way. There is more canon doctrine detail and mechanical support for such within the game for Bloodbowl teams than there is for the entirety of the Heresy.I can play a team of goblins more accurately to their lore than I can play the Sons of Horus.
>>97119576Jesus what the fuck anon. Why
>>97119710Sons of Horus companies ranged from 10,000 to 36 and got organized in ad hoc campaign formations. They're all gangers. They believe in excessive force applied with precision. What more do you need?
>>97119661melee with russes sound fun
>>97119633Got the fellblade?
>>97119751They're my minis, why wouldn't I do what I want with them? Some retard trying so hard to gatekeep is not amusing to me.
>>97119662>I like you, anon. Come on over and fuck my daughter.Same here, I have the exact same problem as you when fluffing up new companies because it's never been specified how much of the support things like tanks or apothecaries in something like an infantry company are too much so I just make up numbers like 3 tanks per demicompany which aren't supported by anything other than what I believed at that time felt right or what I wanted to pick. Pic related is the terminus, it's one of the most visually interesting ships in warhammer if you can get past the huge hole in the front that begs people to send torpedoes in even with the void shields.
>>97119771holy fuck that tank has as much CAF as terminators
>>97119751Russians zeroing their own who are too wounded to evac, been happening for half a decade now.
>>97119873Please avoid brining hoholistan copes into this thread. It's clearly an American commissar putting down a wounded pig
>>97119873>>97120085It's just one of my (you) reaction images, try not to over think it.
>>97119873We don’t give a fuck anon stop posting weird gore porn shit you freak
>>97120099>never seen a WB ritual before
>>97119142>he is unable to conceive of an interaction with females without thinking of sex as the end purposeOh, so you're gay. You could have just said so anon.
>>97119223lol, meanwhile IRL most ZMfags will have so many smaller armies that collectively they will have spent 3 or 4 times as much time and money on the game as some posturing poofter with 3.5k of one faction. People who play ZM as more than an intro game don't like the small armies because it lets them spend less, they like small armies because it means you can have *more armies*.
>>97120132>everywhere i go, i must rapethis you, shitskin?
Scouring downloads when?
>>97119455You were given the pepperoni pizza recipe in 1.0 & 2.0, anon. Every rite of war plus Legion Trait was one pizza, especially in 1.0, where traits also carried restrictions.3.0 is "the crust has sauce and cheese, and you build up from there" indeed>Walking and shooting isn't a doctrineIt literally is. That is, a set of guiding principles and practices. And in the Death Guard's case it involves methodically advancing, unhurried but undaunted, with unrelenting firepower, until the enemy is killed or charged and then killed. This is also seen in Pale King, where the DG is facing a lot of tanks with infantry following them, so they form a wide thin line. And the tank columns find out they can kill the space marines...but only one at a time, while the DG can dish out all their firepower at the same time. They cripple the tanks, box everyone in and make a zones mortalis out of the front lines, while the enemies at the back are pounded at by fire support. The survivors scatter into the deadly wilderness, but they are followed and killed by the Death Guard, who hail from an even worse place and this aren't slowed down like the survivors are.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marching_fireI'd like to know what counts as a doctrine for you. Do you have examples?Also, what is "narrative" gaming for you? Seems everyone has their own definition
>>97119773here's the rest
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>>97120460That's...fukken awesome.
>>97119662Then how about you fuck off to those small indie companies. Your petulant hissy fit is lame and shitting up the thread
>>97120474Oh fuck yeah.LIgma stormbird when?
>>97120474
>>97120474>drive your superheavies through buildingsYEEEEEAAHHH
happy to oblige /hhg/ for rule leaks
>>97120577Thank you!
>Ligmers get 5 billion new vehicles and variants>Heresysisters STILL waiting on plastic breacherssmdh tbqhwy
>>97120594
>>97120577Now leak fluff
later next week
>>97120477>6% of the threadbuddy just don't respond to a post 4 hours old if you don't want to see more of it.
>>97118384
>>97118384>Its_also_a_hammer.wav
>>97120940nice and based
From the Ashes of the Imperium LE
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>>97121866
>>97121866Oh so that's how she looks like.
>>97121866>all the marines look like twinks
>>97121866Look at all these bald men.
>>97121866>its just the same alpha legionary posing as different people
>>97116535QRD on the Mk6 retcons? Seems to be a back & forth between being made before the Heresy and during
>>97122079I think current lore is that they were first mass produced during and then they were given the the loyalists (and then traitors stole them so every legion had them).Just choose to believe whatever you like.
>>97122079That's a whole can of worms, changing with each publication.
Anyone else assembled a plastic Dracosan? I found the regular malcador bits easy to work with while the Dracosan specific crew compartment was a little more finicky to put together. Not the worst model to assemble by any means though it kinda makes me want to get a regular Malcador to compare building that.
Sit on Santa Dreadnought's knee and tell him what you want for Heresy this Christmas, anons.
>>97121866>HeliosaZamn
How were the thousand sons able to participate in the heresy?>magnus unknowingly doing heretical nonsense>TS themselves not traitors, chilling on prospero>*Burning of Prospero*>Magnus and TS teleported to SortiariusWhat did they do after that? Dust (ha) their asses off, mumble "guess we're traitors now", scrape together what they had left, and went for Terra? More importantly, when did they turn blue?
>>97122437Random Sorcerers going off to look for shards of Magnus mostly. Also they're Thousand Sons so they're always on the hunt for knowledge, which will bring them into conflict with either side of the Heresy.
Man, I need to come up with a good answer for how to deal with World Eaters better as DG. Heavy bolters just aren't chewing enough of them up fast enough before they reach my lines and start tearing through.
>>97118384is your dream waddling everywhere b/c you only have one teleporter in your melee list that it's entirely legal to bring a warhound against
>>97122556 I am personally a fan of the max alchem flamer TSS with a Warmonger attached. Fairly cheap, enemies can't move-react to your deep strike and they don't care if they get suppressed because templates don't roll to hit. Drop in, dump 10-11 ideal template shots into your target unit and watch it atomise under the pressure of 50+ armour saves.
>>97119873You forgot to add the rear end troops that are just there to shoot over run fleeing russians.
>>97122556Have you considered more heavy bolters?
>>97122647I honestly hadn't even thought of a warmonger. Not sure I'd want to max out the squad since one part of the table on lockdown means they'll flow around it, but I'll definitely try this out.>>97122743I mean it feels like that and Deathshroud are always the answer I suppose, but yeah, fuck it, why not another squad of 10.
>>97122556Can you put statuses on them? Because you get easy access to Suppressive, Panic and Stunning. Or do rotos cannons Pin instead of Suppress... Fuck I keep forgetting which does what lolWell, and if you can't Status them, maybe Alchem flamers. No panic but gain better wounding. Flamers put the full template even when snap firing, right?
>>97122770You may as well max the squad out, 10 alchem-flamers costs the same 130pts as the Warmonger does and paying 130 just to deep strike 65 points of killsquad is pretty pointless. The advantage of the deep strike is that it almost guarantees you a perfect shooting phase unless you get intercepted by something dangerous enough to kill the squad off altogether, and then you stack 10 poison 2+ templates on a squad and kill it with weight of dice. If you don't have that weight of dice it's just a glorified moveblocker, but if you fire 11 alchem templates and hit all 5 of a squad of Red Butchers you probably kill 4 of them right there, or wipe an entire 20-man troop blob.
>>97122292MORE centurions.And an AaF FAQ that lets me replace troop slots with Centurions in Saturnine armor
>>97122292Legacies rules for characters in Indomitus Terminator armor.>>97123027Might as well just make it a blanket any Command model with 'Centurion' in its profile name to retroactively include new variants.
>>97122196I built three of them and didn't have any standout issues. Fun kit
>>97122292I want a 10,000 point Titanicus game.
>>97122079Why has the image been Americanized to "having a soda" when Beakie is clearly applying or removing a tea bag? Stolen valor much??
>>97123296I always thought it was cracking open a beer
>>97122556if he's coming at you on foot, Pinningif he's coming at you in vehicles, Panic
>>97123303That would mean the vessel has a flip top, and then *another* layer of metal underneath (which he is using a can opener on or pulling the tab on).It's a flip top mug of hot water and he's teabagging it (like he would a xenos face).
>>97123405That's just the cherry being put into the chilled Manhattan
>>97122292A gf who loves me for who I amBarring that uh space marines>>97122437Magnus sent several Prospero cohorts off in random directions and there were some TS in Expeditionary Fleets
>>97123501Didn't he tell the fleet to fuck off too, including a Gloriana-scale ship?So potentially even Prospero the TS could call on a full legion fleet for whatever they want?
>>97122929You can, they just don't really care all that much. Rotor does suppressive which is the thing they care least about it seems. Flamers do put templates down when snap firing I believe, he just doesn't give many chances to do snap firing. He avoids shooting in general.>>97123017That's true. I need to get out of the habit of trying to always to 7 and 14 man squads. Red Butchers have been the one giving me problems, so I'll try this out. Might even try and do two squads of it if I can.
>>97123571Status'd enemies fight last and their charges count as disordered. World Eaters lose their legion trait when statused, anon. Is that of no use?Idk what gun is Pinning, but Panic is there also.As for flamer snapshots, that's for your volley fire when you do get charged
>>97120164>men and women can't be real friends, they don't experience friendship in the same way>OMG U WANT TO RAPE KIDSYup, a poofter: every accusation a confession.
https://gofile.io/d/0puHqMNew blsloppa just dropped
>>97122711Oh you mean like in the 1905 war? that is normal.
>>97123725>https://gofile.io/d/0puHqM I am reading it, and it somehow feels like those AI short stories. Odd expiriance. Either BL books got worse or AI got REALLY good at writing fantasy and scifi. Thanks for the book anon. I could never afford to buy one.
>>97123296What if it's bagged crystalized corn syrup? Huh? What about that? Did you ever think that tea bags could be used to make Dr. Pepper tea?Ponder this and suffer.
I would want to build an army inspired by Persia and its people. And was told that the "Persians" in the setting are Word Bearers. I don't want to play the bad guys, so can you play Loyalist Word Bearers with a different legion rules, so I don't have to use all those demon stuff? Or are there maybe other Persian related legions. I would be all in for something like the Assyrian Church of the East
>>97123296He is clearly dipping a biscuit in a cup of tea.
>>97124019I just wonder why nobody is asking why the marine is eating or drinking anything with the helmet on
>>97123725I hate the antichrist
>>97124048Who is the writer?
>>97124221
>>97124225What a shame, Wraight was one of the good ones, fuck these wokie activist tourists and blackrock.
>>97116599The trick is to get locked into one. I was choosing between WE, IW and DA until I snagged all available WE characters for virtually free.
>>97124048So strong black woman that would fuck you long time?
>>97124019Why would a space marine, clearly a man (lets not get in to the female space marine argument), eat something that only women eat? especialy in a meme/propaganda piece that requires a visual to be easily recognisable and not confusing.
>>97124225Good thing is that it gave us Aristeia the noble female Custodian and Jullata the black transmutated heretic leader whose last words as a mob of imperials cuddlged her to death was "I know"+ tears . In response to the evil imperials say death is too good for her kind. They did take the magic swords of a fallen 1kson that she had, which corrupted them over time.
>>97123725>>97124048>>97124239>antiBL shill is a AoS russian subhuman>focusing in one (1) pronoun in a 500+ page book>trying to smear fucking Chris Wraight
>>97123901>And was told that the "Persians" in the setting are Word Bearers.I disagree. Despite some reference to it like "Colchis", the WB are more like caldeans or babylonians, or even evil hindus (Kali, etc. Remember the bad guy from pic related)Thousand sons are the ones with ancient Persia influence, not only egyptian.After all, Ahriman is named Ahriman.
>>97123296I get that it's a joke but it's a medic(RT era apothecary) with a progenoid gland.
>>97124415hmm interesting I read some short stories and the Word Bearers names were very much what I hear or similar, even in my family. I guess the question changes to were there ever loyalist 1ksons ? From what I have seen on book covers at least they didn't change in to some sort of marine mutants. I do like their red armour+white looks. Very regal . and they use Caducei just like we do in our churches symbol. So that would be kind of a cool too. Being called Ahriman is brutal. A bit like being calld Shaitan or Mozer
>>97124433and he is snacking on the "globulus"?
>>97124435The point of TS is that they're utterly delusional. They believed they were in control of the Warp, while they were just Tzeench's pawnsThey believed themselves loyal while actually breaking the Emperor's laws and ignoring his warningsThey believed they were doing their own thing in the Siege, while they were just used and discarded by Horus to break the Sol System defences and the Emperor's shieldAnd so on. So Ahriman thinks he's a good guy but he's actually an evil bastard
>>97124435Ahriman and Shaitan are well known but WTF is a Mozer?
>>97124454They are rich in protein. The perfect breakfast for the perfect soldier.
>>97124399Look at this retarded newfag that doesn't know the ruski site with all the leaks
>>97124500>pidor pretending that is normal to check r*ssian websites outside wahapedia>he doesn't know about the english speaking discord and telegram channels where pdfs and epubs are actually first released before they're posted elsewhere
>>97124048>still no hard abs and massive knockers models
97124561Absolutely mind broken
>>97124561>just make a trooncord and troongram account and give your information to isreal instead of using a one click download goy
>>97124732Where do you think the russoids are distributing their leaks?
What would be a suitable way to use these in Horus Heresy? I really like the look of them.
>>97124740As I said before, you're a retarded newfag that doesn't know the right site
>>97124755Militia
>>97124699>>97124732>>97124763You out yourself everytime you post, retarded pidor worshipper. Stop pretending and trying to fit in.t.anon responsible for the gofile repo in the OP
>>97124500Which is?
>>97124921Says the tourist who doesn't even know how to create a thread on this site
>>97124856Not even in the right hemisphere you obsessed eurotroon
>>97124981Russia is in both hemispheres
>>97124755NL Militia
>>97123286Where you at anon I'll bring my shit.I got about 3.5k in just titans, maybe another 2.5k in knights.
I'm not involved in the shit flinging But if you have posted pdfs on this thread, ever, thank you
>>97124456Where I live Mozer means a wealthy and affluent person, but with a moral/emotional conotation of the word as if a marxist said it. In western countries the closest word to it I think would be bourgeois.
>>97124947nta, but if you need something, just ask>>97125289I'm just a data hoarder that repost stuff I find elsewhere. The real mvps are the guys actually scanning and buying ebooks
>>97123120Must be a me problem then. Nice looking kit in any case, I like it more after seeing it person compared to online pictures.
>>97125375That transport looks very cool. Like a heavily armoured rhino or a w40k Lemman Russ turned in to a troop transport. Very cool conversion.
>>97125089fuck off mate russia is not in the cunting southern hemisphere
>>97124435>I guess the question changes to were there ever loyalist 1ksons ?Yes. As the legion just kind of did things arbitrarily after Prospero, we do have at least>The Battle for Beta-Garmon>Another group of 3,000 was under the supervision of the Sisters of Silence on Cthonia that did end up surviving; fate unknown>Revuel Arvida transformed with a shard of Magnus by Malcador at the Khan's ire, he later became the first Grey Knights Supreme Grandmaster>Some chilled with Legio Xestobiax, but had to fight off the Dark Angels; fate otherwise unknown>'Blood Ravens = TS loyalists' is still purely speculative if you're wondering, beyond a very-on-the-nose prophecyOff the top of my head.
>>97125529I'm a BR=WB truther
>>97125529>The Battle for Beta-GarmonForgot to say it was concerning a Shattered Legions force consisting of WS/IH/TS. Pg 133 in the eponymous book for 2.0.>>97125531It could be both. Magpie gene seed is supposedly filed under the fucking Ordo Malleus of all Inquisition branches, something is definitely up.
>>97125529>that did end up surviving; fate unknownDidn't they, Garrius, and the SoH inductii all gather under the Imperial Fist banner and start crusading? They would have all died Dorn didn't care enough about his little bear to give him a chapter.
>>97125551Oh yeah that sounds right.Pg103>Garrius would long suffer the wounds dealt to him by Vheren, healed only by the combined efforts of the Mechanicum’s lacyraemara magi and the biomancers of the Thousand Sons, leaving him a hideous amalgam of augmetics and crudely re-shaped flesh. He would brood long on his loss and refused to return empty handed to Terra, where the Loyalists had won such a victory that none would ever forget it. Instead he took his warriors into the Warp to hunt the fleeing Traitors, seeking a new battlefield and a grander trophy that he might lay at Dorn’s feet in lieu of Cthonia. For years after the death of Cthonia and the end of the Battle for Terra, reports of a rogue fleet bearing the sigil of the Imperial Fists would arrive at Terra, from the final cataclysmic battle for Colchis to the breaking of Xana II, they moved from one tragedy to the next. Those few Loyalists that fought beside them would often remark that though all the warriors that followed Garrius wore the yellow heraldry of the Imperial Fists, they were unlike any others of that Legion – the songs of both lost Cthonia and Prospero heard as they marched to war.
>>97116535Saw news of that tourney where the black shield character ran the oops all character list and I’ve seen people cheer him on for “showing how broken the game is”. Genuinely shut the fuck up you nogames whores. I don’t wanna see any of you freaks whine about 40K when you cheer on using an obviously not rai, asshole list. I guess one broken rule makes 3.0 worse than some asshole running any sort of dreadnought spam last ed or just any of the multitude of asshole strategies from the last 2 eds which were way more common
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>>97125347I already have everything ever released down to the pdfs FW had up for free on their site for certain units before they were implemented in the black books. I'm just curious on what site it is because I don't think I remember ever using a russian site for leaks.
>>97125460I hope cheburnet rolls out soon and I never see you cunts here again.
I can only wonder what horrors the ruskies inflict on the game given the bullshit polish retards do
>>97125529Cool thanks very much. Well off to learning how to paint armour in metalic red and smooth white. If I am sneaky enough, I may convince my parents to give me a tactical box in January for christmas.
>>97125741No horrors. Everyone can afford a WAAC and non WAAC army at any point, and the people to paint it. So one day you could be playings a for fun cav charge reenactment of the Battle of Borodino, with both sides fielding nothing but various mounted legion elements. While next week you play a chill, but more compatitive 2xLR, 40 tacticals, 2 rhinos etc armies on both sides. Only for 4 weeks later to play real games that are full rapier batteries, protected by Arc +5inv fields, multiple sentry guns and the best of the best units AL armies can take from other legions in their army, fighting either WS with ally or A LOT of WS allied to other legions. The poles act crazy, because they are poor and can play the game the way GW intends you to do it.
>>97125529>Blood Ravens = TS loyalistsFully expect them to be Dark Angel successors now. Always like that weird theory out of nowhere in their Index Astartes article, but I think GW will be doing it out of spite.
Blackshields gettin' painted!
>>97126102Whoops
>>97126106Are those pistol gizmos supposed to be laser pointers or underslung red dot sights
>PoV: you are a custodes and you have to tell her that she's not getting any new models when the talons book drops
>>97126152A red dot sight is something you look through (the dot is in the sight, not projected onto the target), so hopefully not that.
>>97126208post moar of this glorious cosplay
>>97124399BL was meh to ok fun schlock at best, but with identity politics shoved it it's dogshit now. You have no standards, discord troon.
>>97125852>Everyone can afford a WAAC and non WAAC army at any pointwe clearly travel in different circles>>97126634>identity politics shoved it it's dogshit nowif changing a male character in a female makes a story shit it was always shit.
>>97125375I see what you mean. Maybe missed shaving a sprue bur off somewhere. Overall, not the end of the world and probably won't notice once you paint it up.
>>97126208>you have to explain to the sister that instead of getting the rest of their units, they're getting squatted and the female custards will get models instead
>>97125696australians are getting cheburnet?
>>97124755Militia Overseers and the main dude with a hammer is a perfect Suffering Marshal.
>>97124755Militia Discipline Masters.
I think the home objective should be defended by a Tactical squad. But that won't be enough to defend a Thallax unit deepstriking next to them. So what else should be back there supporting the Tacticals?
>>97127810A thallax squad
Besides praetors, which characters can equip archaeotech pistols?I have a spare AoD axe praetor which I'd like to kitbash, but the pistol is part of the body.
>>97127959Esoterists still get them, I think.A holstered pistol is whatever you want it to be. Call it a disintegrator pistol if need be
>>97127810A plasma boxnaught to fire damage close intercept of course
>>97127810just put your home objective in medium or heavy area terrain so they cant see them
>>97127959esoterists, artificer warsmiths
Played a game todayMilitia autocannon teams fuckedDouble-plasma faturnine dread managed to overload 4 times in a single shooting attack and hit two friendly squads
>>97128447>Militia autocannon teams fuckedAren't they like 35 pts per BS3 autocannon? Firing a S7 shot that needs a 6 to glance AV13 for a single hull point? Just how!
>>971285591) Legacy of the Great Crusade for +1 BS2) Shooting Tacs while remaining stationary so 18 shots
>>97128569Ptrs caused ptsd
Fuck nerds and all of your reading, lmao.
>>97128569Hmm I guess. I would think militia are good at holding back objectives, their low points-per-Line coupled with the ability to still score even when affected by a status
>>97126044I absolutely expect the Dark Angels to dig up some (non-metallic) skeletons in the closet, but I suppose John French doing a 'haha funny subverting expectations' is inevitable in some manner.
DG 3k points. How we looking? Tried to go for a weapon thematic list that can hopefully still function ok and has answers for some things:Mortarion [425 Point(s)]3x Deathshroud [45 Point(s)]Land Raider Carrier [265 Point(s)]Calas Typhon [200 Point(s)]3x Deathshroud [45 Point(s)]1x Centurion with Jump Pack [120 Point(s)]: Jump Pack, Power scythe, Bolter5x Veteran Assault Squad [225 Point(s)]: 1x Veteran Sergeant with Alchem caster, Power scythe4x Veteran Legionary: Alchem caster, Thunder hammerWarmonger [135 Point(s)]: Bolter, Alchem caster10x Mortus Poisoner Squad [160 Point(s)]: Rad grenades, Phosphex bombs, Alchem flamerSiege Breaker [115 Point(s)]: Bolt pistol, Thunder hammer2x Rapier Battery [150 Point(s)]: 2x Rapier Crew [75 Point(s)]4x Legionary2x Rapier Carrier (Quad Launcher - (Frag) (Shatter) (Phosphex) (Phosphex Canister Shot)7x Heavy Support Squad [245 Point(s)]: Lascannons10x Heavy Support Squad [200 Point(s)]: Heavy bolters5x Grave Warden Terminator Squad [225 Point(s)]:Assault grenade launchers, Power fists12x Despoiler Squad [135 Point(s)]: 1x Sergeant: Charnabal sabre1x Legionary: Nuncio-vox10x Legionary10x Tactical Squad [110 Point(s)]:1x Sergeant1x Legionary: Nuncio-vox8x LegionaryMan 3000 points goes way quicker than I'd have thought, wasn't able to do everything I'd have liked. 3000 on the nose.
>>97128868the better play is the DA are there to investigate the BR for heresy and get their shit back from them, the fucking cleptosbut yeah it's probably some dull half cocked subversion shit
>>97126044Aren't they chimeric or is that still all fan theories
>>97126208Boy top knots really are hideous
>>97128610I WANT FUCKING HAND FLAMERS FOR MY JORLUND HUNTERS WHY ARE THEY SO HARD TO FIND AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>97129014Skill issue
>>97126044guaranteed they'll turn out to be the lost librarius of the XIIth Legion
>>97126152>>97126217you see how they're attached to his fully powered suit of armour with autosensory capabilities
>>97129014Don't you literally get like 4 in the melee upgrade set
>>97129112No I see a pistol with an ammo tube and a coolant tube.
>>97129117Only 2
>>97127810They very much dislike conversion beamers and lascannons, so a predator does fine as long as you can get the AP3 D2 template or better.Personally I've become a fan of the Cbeamer Lernaean squad on the home objective, although they are only Line 1. They're consistently too much trouble to move even with power axes and a single hammer, and the beamer lets them contribute slightly.
>>971291172, but you need 5 for their special rule to work; there's 1 in every 3 scimitars and then it's wherever you can scrounge them up since all the 40k kit updates got rid of them years before the switch to Primaris assblasters made them obsolete the biggest number is Sororitas kits, weirdly there aren't even that many in the Cawdor kits and they LOVE fire
>>97129127OK then, I guess there's no way this entirely imaginary weapon that does something physically impossible could work with a targeting sight built into it
>>97129192How can you have an integrated sight that doesn't have a wire plugging directly into the armor? You gotta have a wire plugging directly into the armor, otherwise it'd be silly
>>97129014Ask your local plastic solar auxilia player, the lasrifle section has four, just recut the fist
>>97128610Wait a minute, what books were the SW burning actually?
>>97129397Leviticus 18:23
>>97126661The point is identity politics breaks the immersion when it's put into places where it does not belong. Why is that so hard to grasp? It's happening everywhere now and people are getting sick of it except for the minority who push for this with spiteful glee.
>>97129407Huh?
>>97129397Magnus' gay nerd books
>>97129397All the books full of sorcery. I.e., words with no pictures. Or at least not pictures of furry girls.You know, even nearly 30,000 years later Russ would have had terabytes of Loona porn on his personal dataslate.
>>97129470>space wolves>straight
>>97129487>falling for lion's projection propaganda
>>97129440Try looking it up on google instead of e621
MilitiaCHADs, what are the best units in your army? What's the most fun?
>>97129407>>97129513Thanks anon I looked it up, good quote.
>>97129397Studies on the harm caused by bestiality.
>>97129397Books on semantics, so they don't have to confront that if you call yourselves the space wolves, your primarch is the wolf king, and all of your gods are wolves, then I'm pretty sure that means THAT THERE ARE WOLVES ON FENRIS
Building my Seekers, is it worth it for the sarge to have melta bombs?
>>97130082Not really. A melta bomb alone isn't enough to destroy tough vehicles now, and against weak rear armour vehicles the krak grenades from a 10 man squad are usually enough already.If you got multiple meltabombs in the same squad, or some ranged anti-tank softening up the vehicle, they become very useful though. Had my 10 effrit one-shot a fellblade with their meltabombs last game.
Has anyone magnetized their saturnine termies and how did you do it?
Would IF+BA+WS shattered legion combo be any good?
>>97130146Me. It's stupid easy, just magnetise the elbow joints. Only issue is that the sprues don't come with enough of the ranged weapon options to double up.
>>97130184any pics?
>>97130226Here you go
>>97130255Thanks, looks easier than I thought. Are they 3mm magnets?
>>97130268It really is that easy. Those are 3mm magnets, but a bit smaller or larger can also work probably. Those just happened to be the magnets I had laying around. You do need quite the amount of magnets. It's twelve for the arms of 6 saturnines alone.
>>97124225>My Imperial Fist in your smurfhole
>not sure if my playlists fit the mood>battle ambience playing behind angsty rock makes it workneat
>>97130119Yeah, it's just the sergeant who gets melta bombs, so I suppose there's not a lot of volume.>>97130273NTA but do you glue the parts together before drilling or just have them flush on a dry fit before doing so?
>>97130082you'll kill a Sabre or Araknae with one, they can be useful for taking out point defences with infiltrators early game
>>97130686Infiltrators may not charge the first turn. But I guess they could use turn 1 to move into enemy territory, then turn 2 they move further in and then charge idk
>>97130667Did glue the parts together beforehand, and let everything dry fully before drilling the holes for the magnets.
Why's Lion an old man now?
>>97131112I don't know what you mean, he looks fine to me
>>97131112He was sleeping for 10000 years
I believe in HH previews later today
Basic predators, yay or nah? For 100pts it feels like a really annoying thing to deal with.
>>97131144I haven't used mine yet, but I've had a few games where some with lascannons,conversion bearers, or twin grav cannons have been a consistent pain in my side and yet there were more dangerous things I had to deal with so they were left alone. Admittedly, probably a part of that was that my anti tank tends to be lacking in general because I play mech so it's more effective to just shell their scoring troops into oblivion and win on attrition (the tactic, not the secondary objective, though i usually end up scoring that too) so YMMV
>>97131175Yea, the conversion beamers also look tasty. But if you kit them out they nearly double in cost. And the thing is, admech arent the only ones who are now finding it annoying to kill tanks. People generally bring a few sources of AT (designed to crack the big shit) and then thats it, so im just thinking that mass vehicles might be really annoying for them to deal with.
>>97131112He shouldn't be old, to be honest. He was sleeping, which regenerates rather than consume the body. If he can last ten thousand years without eating, drinking water, or shitting and pissing, then he's magical enough to also not age during that time lmao
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>>97129522Ogryns and either LR of malc tanks. Russes are cheap and still AV14 front. Malcadors are versatile.Bring them in numbers, and your opponent has trouble dealing with them all.Ogryns with mauls are just fun, and situational T6 from shields is fun as well.Militia presents a fun shit list. Stuff is still absurdly expensive and lackluster compared to Legion units, but you are able to present a LOT of targets and this is how they survive on the tabletop.
>>97129211thank god the weapon isn't in direct contact with the armour or you'd look silly
