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Dunk On 'Em Edition

>What is Trench Crusade?
An alternate weird history 28mm/32mm tabletop skirmish game still in a pre-release playtesting phase but with the full release slated for this year. Based on the art and lore of Mike Franchina, whose illustrations you may have seen floating around on /tg/ for a several years now, and designed by Tuomas Pirinen, one of the original creators of Mordheim. It's grimdark, it's visceral, it's awesome, and it's very Blanchitsu.

>What Trench Crusade is not
TC not an excuse for you to discuss IRL religion, history that didn't occur in the game, culture war shit, or discord bullshit on /tg/. Keep it on topic.

>What's the QRD on the background?
The Knights Templar turned heretic and opened the Gates of Hell when they took Jerusalem during the First Crusade. Over 800 years later the war is still ongoing as technology has developed to a pseudo diesel-punk WW1 standard and a third of Humanity has sided with the Infernal Princes.

>How do I get started?
All the files are free online:
https://www.trenchcrusade.com/rules/

They used to be split between the website and the discord, but no more. For posterity's sake, the old mega will still be kept active even if it's unlikely to need updating: https://mega.nz/folder/70QH0BBa#Eg-blxYQKkY_C02wErnFTQ

>third party sources for making trenchers:
https://pastebin.com/YzXPVUAc

>Trench Compendium
https://trench-companion.com/

>Previous Thread:
>>97073387

>Thread Question
What are your hopes and dreams for new units? What unit types do you feel are lacking from current factions?
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>>97121172
>What are your hopes and dreams for new units?
Something for Knights of Avarice with their tits out
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>>97121290
>Mammon’s Knights
>doing Baphomet’s schtick
Nah
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>>97121704
Every faction would be improved by adding an unit with tits
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>>97121912
The only thing preventing every unit in every army from having tits is you not learning how to sculpt green stuff properly.
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Unit stats for Zutt heavy infantry? I know they have +3 Deep Penetration
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Now that the dust has settled, why did Trench Crusade flop?
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>>97121944
Because you touch yourself at night
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>>97121099
>Sappers are apt to have close encounters.
>That's why you get a shotgun with a bayonet.
It would still be a better idea to have an engineer with +1D ranged in that situation, if you're at shotgun range you're at DemoCharge chucking range.

Besides if you want a +1D melee you get a shocktrooper that can use heavy melee weapons
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>>97121172
>What are your hopes and dreams for new units? What unit types do you feel are lacking from current factions?
If we're talking units I feel each warband has good rosters overall, I would not add a specific unit to any of them.

I would however like some region specific heretic subfactions like NA has nation-specific ones, like a balkan-based subfaction from the area the heretics control from there or a Georgian-based subfaction, I think it would make the heretics more interesting. I understand some people would not like this IRL though
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>>97122086
>covering the tits of the only non-disgusting creature with tits out
Lame and gay art
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>>97122086
>only one heretic is shooting at the stigmatic nun
>other troopers just try peeking upskirt
Must be lust warband.
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>>97118648
>various kickstarters
How do we feel about the many kickstarters and the like that have popped up over the months?

Personally I didn't really like the Great Hunger minis but I'm really digging the Cossaks, I may get some of their stuff
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>>97124110
You dropped this.
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>>97124120
..... That's the best you got? Come on even you could be better than that...... I think
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>>97124147
Not here to play whatever game you want, widdle baby. Here, you can play with this since you're so desperate for something to do.
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>>97124171
..... Yeah, I guess this is the best you can do. I feel sad for you. 1/3 of your generation were murdered by their moms to be whores longer and sadly yours didn't make the right decision when she found out she was knocked up.
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>>97124178
>t.
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>>97124188
.... Are you baby crazy or something? Or you that dumb and think posting baby replies means you win?
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>>97124203
For the umpteenth time, if you don't like the game, then fuck off already and let people who do have their conversations in peace, you unbelievable turboretard concerntroll Arch-Dicksucker.
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>>97124480
Well, when you people stop posting on TG all the time try to advertise the game over buying a fucking ad then I will. I mean how often do we have to deal with that shit EVERYWHERE else. Oh this person wasn't leftist working on said game so the try to cancel the shit out of them. Yet you fuckers want us to leave you alone on our sites? You made the fucking rule, you don't get to stop it when it effects you dumbass. So get your "the rape and murder demons are the same as the fucking catholic church" shit back to bluesky.
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>>97124516
No one gives a shit about advertising to you, you goddamn reprobate. No one gives a shit that your culture war brigade tried to hijack the game and you got slapped down hard enough you're still babyraging over your sore rear.
If you're done throwing a shitfit over the fact that the game that advertised itself as grimdark is in fact grimdark, then can you please scrounge up the neurons in that hollow skull of yours and act like you're capable of being in polite society instead of whatever contemptible dipshittery it is that you do with your life?
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>>97124110
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>>97124516
Link some posts in other threads shilling TC to support your claim. If it’s “everywhere” as you say it should be easy, yes?
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>>97124586
>esl retard
It makes sense now kek
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>>97124080
Man those are nice. I really like the sniper nun.
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>>97124586
I see we've hit the part of the argument where you just answer the post you wish I had written instead of the one I actually did. I understand it must be very difficult for you to form synapses, what with the parental incest and the fetal alcohol syndrome, so let me keep this simple so you can understand once you're done tracing the words with your finger.
No one here was talking about politics. You fuckers started that.
I realize it's very embarrassing for your gang of subhumans that this game became and remains successful even after showing the door to your entire cool gang of sewer-dwelling fuckheads, but I promise you that even you can find happiness if you stop being annoying about it.
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>>97124110
>they can't have the catholic church be the good guys
>>97124516
the rape and murder demons are the same as the fucking catholic church
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>the shitposter doesn't realize the mistake they are making that makes it incredibly easy to spot who they are, even without the bullshit
Almost funny.
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I just came to say that I'm wants to impregnate a Artillery Witch. No, I don't care if they're soulless automatons. That's all.
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>>97124516
>the rape and murder demons are the same as the fucking catholic church
This is excellent, genius bait.
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TC is gay and retarded. Fuck off zutt lovers
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>>97124080
Gay and retarded, just make the minis available without having to jump through flaming hoops, I'm not gonna buy your shitty little STLs
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Here you go, faggot. You earned it.

Anyway, anyone have experience with iridescent paints? Thinking of getting a blue-green or red-green one to paint the eyes on my Herald.
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THREADLY REMINDER:

Do not reply to obvious troll posts

Hide troll posters

Trolling outside of /b/ is a reportable action

Feeding trolls is what they want. No matter how clever you think you are, or how badly you think you will own them, you are giving them what they want by engaging at all
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>>97124837
The sin of lust's top scientists are working around the clock to figure out how to get robots pregnant.
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>>97126068
How to have a robot who can have a baby, but instead of birthing it, sacrificing the baby in the artificial womb.
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>>97126078
>but instead of birthing it, sacrificing the baby in the artificial womb.
Imma be honest, that is pretty metal.
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Alright, real on topic question.
I run bitch basic IS, and the occasion has come about where mercenaries are now a thing.
I have never looked twice at them. Which ones are good for a close range shooty IS warband?
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>>97126174
IS gets three mercs atm
> Combat Biologist
Very much just a melee guy
> Scripture Guardian
Considered kinda pricey, but generically good and can get very nasty with its scripture attack at range or melee
> Mamluk Faris
Def the best option they have, especially since you can pick the loadout each battle to adjust to your current team comp. Plus, fireteams are always a nice way to improve effectiveness.
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>>97121944
>Now the dust has settled, why weren't the Prussian reinforcements able to arrive in time to relieve the English forces at Waterloo and prevent Napoleon from attaining a glorious victo-
>Oh my fucking god. This can't be fucking happening. Where am I? What is this? AAAAAAAAAAAAARGH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH AAAAAAAAAARGH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH NOOOOOOOO THIS CANT BE FUCKING HAPPENING THIS CANT BE FUCKING HAPPENING
Face the music frenchie
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>>97125810
I've only ever tried a bunch of fluorescent paints but that's a good idea actually, you should post the resullts
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>>97124837
Average NA yeoman after surviving his first engagement with the heretics
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Average day in the Balkans of Trench Crusade
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>>97126020
Doing gods work anon
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>>97126774
Depressed tired man who works for literal hell speaks to me in a way I was not expecting, where is this art from??
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>>97127513
The book. Also a funny new tidbit about Communicants. Read the "requirements"
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>>97127530
Oh shit they already arriving
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>>97127570
Yup. Poland got it first because it's printed here.
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>>97127578
Also to make the thread more lively.
Have this
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>>97127700
Dunno why it posted itself like this. Honestly.
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>>97127700
>>97127705
This should be better
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I might need to skip /trench/ for a while. So I cam enjoy the book's art unspoiled.
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>>97127779
I initially didn't buy into the kickstarter because no one I knew was playing then ate it was done I met guys and now I have a Wabash and can play regularly and will now need to get the kickstarter book on ebay
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>>97128376
>then after it
>have a warband
Man I'm a retarded phone poster
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>>97126614
I ordered one, wound up going with Greenstuff World’s Royal Burgundy, it’s a yellow-red-blue shift, so hopefully it gives the nice creepy insect eye vibe.
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>>97127530
"four functional limbs" did get me
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>>97128376
Good luck. I bought two copies of the hardback in the kickstarter, one for myself and one to put aside mint in shrinkwrap. Probably should have picked up a scalper copy or two but turns out I’m retarded.
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Frederica my beloved
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>>97130026
c-cute...
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>>97130026
10/10 would clang
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>>97127779
Awww hell yeah! Motherfucking tiddy monsters
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>>97126774
The Albanian master race would be harvesting organs from heretics and demons and selling them to the Holy Church
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>>97130903
>The Albanian master race
The Albanians are only the master race of being the punching bag of the goofy ass setting that is genuine history.
They're an evil low tier NPC race that you stop caring about after the first act of a campaign
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>>97130937
>Obsessed with status and therefore obedient to the Curch
>Too dumb for religion, literally cannot view demons as a figure of worship
>Violent to any and every form of outsiders
Albanians in TC are the lowest IQ most loyal soldier of the Vatican for sole reason of wanting to make Kebab meat from demons
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>>97130959
demon kebab meat would be an ineteresting flavour.
just dont get a lust-following demon.
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>>97131529
Or gluttony following demon. Who knows what that thing has put into its body.
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>>97131698
>>97131529
The taste of the demon depends on the circle of hell they come from. Pride demons taste very much like citrus, and Gluttony demons have the highest caloric intake
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>>97121172
What a faggy little game.
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>Looks inside
>Sees the same cancerous autism of TC fanboys losing it at any criticism
>Shitposters making the worst bait but the retarded discord nigs take the bloody bait anyway
>Game is still heavily astroturfed
>Even on modern /tg/ this game can't muster any real discussion
Equal measures pathetic and tragic
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>>97132700
Do TC fanboys even exist? I like the game and acknowledge it's many flaws, but I think that they will be solved as the game matures. It's still very young, we just got the first version of the rule book, the first box and all we have of the lore are one page articles. There's just not much to talk about, it's a new game with some controversies around it. That's pretty much it
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>>97132700
>Sees the same cancerous autism of TC fanboys losing it at any criticism
The ‘criticism’ is 99% trolling about lore, religious fruitcakes upset about Iron Sultanate being in the game, and threatened GW fanboys yapping about progressivism in the game (as if they have a leg to stand on) to drive division. When the criticism isn’t repetitive already-refuted retardation, I’m sure you’ll see a better class of discussion around it.

>Shitposters making the worst bait but the retarded discord nigs take the bloody bait anyway
There’s significantly less bait-taking in this thread, hopefully people are getting better at ignoring the 2-3 blood-squirting vaginas shitting up the thread.

I’m hoping future OPs will include an advisory that identifies the frequent-flyer trolls and their techniques and recommends reporting, ignoring, and moving on.

>Game is still heavily astroturfed
If that was the case the thread would be moving much much faster. Opinion disregarded.

>Even on modern /tg/ this game can't muster any real discussion
Part of that’s due to genuine posters being driven off by the sheer volume of trolling and shitposting. Even the 28Fag forums are less retarded, and they went Full Retard from the get-go.
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>>97133875
>The guy proceeds to lose it when it's mentioned TC fans can't take criticism
I almost want to laugh at how predictable you guys are but I also find it so genuinely pitiful.
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>he's cycled through his buzzwords back to reinclude astroturf again
What a loathsome faggot.
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>>97134213
If you want a better class of discussion around criticisms of the game, come up with a better class of criticisms. It’s not rocket science anon.
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>>97124516
We're you born with your brain injury or was that something that happened later in life?
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>>97133655
I've said this before but the game relying on people to 3d print or kitbash their own dudes really limits how many people can get into TC. 3D printing still isn't just press one button to get models even with how much it has advanced and kitbashing can get really expensive really fast if you don't already have a bits box
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>>97131698
>>97132106
Black Grail forces are technically Gluttony-aligned as well. But it's so obvious you shouldn't be eating those that nobody would do that anyway.
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>>97134911
>kitbashing can get really expensive really fast if you don't already have a bits box
You should see what a 40K combat patrol costs.
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>>97134911
>kitbashing can get really expensive really fast if you don't already have a bits box
Really depends on the kit.
On the whole, models don't actually cost a whole lot once you leave the scifi section and GW behind. Keeping troops cheap and elites worth a bit of scratch worked very well for me.
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>>97135443
>Not actively capturing and devouring Plague Knights to build immunities against Black Grail
Not very devout of you anon, what would Jesus think?
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>>97135443
>so obvious you shouldn't be eating those that nobody would do that anyway
I wouldn't be sure about path of the beast. But those guys are built different anyway.
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I feel like Baphomet's forces, given that Baphomet is a corruption of Muhammed by crackers, should play up the "scary Islamist horde" thing the Crusaders propgandized them as, plus specifically mocking Islamist sins - maybe overzealous jihadism or the Shia/Sunni schism.
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>>97136326
You tend to avoid demonizing your allies, even if they're shaky allies of convenience.
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>>97136326
It would be cool if they were a shapeshifting army that took the form of the Muslims and tried to invade mainland Europe to trick the Pope
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>>97136332
To clarify, they're NOT the Muslim forces, they're Baphomet's army deliberately playing up the "scary Islamic horde" propaganda of the Crusades as a mockery of how they unleashed Satan in the midst of beefing with the Muslims.

>>97136340
Someone in a previous thread, and I think some Discord posts, posited that "God" is really Satan fucking with the humans and forcing them to do more and more extreme things, so stuff like the Wars over how many nails were in Jesus' cross could absolutely fit into that.
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>>97136326
Some sort of hell-corrupted version of Islam like the Avignon "missionaries" would be very cool, however TC's never going to do that, people would go apeshit
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>>97136389
Oh I see, you mean a heretic force that leans into being apostate muslims instead of apostate christians. Yeah, that would be neat, it would make a good theme for a heretic legion force.
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>>97136389
>"God" is really Satan fucking with the humans
I mean it makes sense, we haven't seen him really do anything in lore. inb4 The city of Argos is taken by god and God gifted Muslims the wall. It might just be a big test by him, maybe he is busy dealing with Lucifer crawling his way back into heaven.

I hope the lore of the game slowly moves forward with time, I would love to see the forces of hell revive Nephilims or for Angels to come down and try to purge the entire world not just Demons.
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>>97136399
I mean, they're kind of already doing that with the Lions of Jabar being fucked up abominations that are, iirc, not compatible with the Quran.
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>>97134911
>3D printing still isn't just press one button
Honestly yeah, I like to tell people how much I prefer 3D over buying minis but that's because I'm already deep in it

>relying on people to 3d print or kitbash their own dudes really limits how many people can get into TC
With the route they've taken recently with the box sets this will probably change, hopefully the game will continue to grow
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>>97136407
>we haven't seen him really do anything in lore
>just ignore the things he's done
Oh come on, Anon.
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>>97136419
Oh definetly, I am not saying that the IS is Quran-compatible, obviously not, but I am not implying a faithful-aligned faction that breaks the religious boundaries, I am talking about a hell-aligned faction that twists and purposefully make a mockery of the religion
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>>97136425
The timeline and lore all comes from the Church, the City of Argos being taken by God probably just means it disappeared or got blown up. But alright fine you got a point, God is definitely doing some things but why not more?
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>>97136443
>but why not more?
For the same reason the demons don't directly step foot on earth. God has his plan, and there are some hard rules in God's plan that are inviolable.
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>>97136443
As handwavy as it is, I like the excuse for God not sending angels willy-nilly because angels annihilate every single thing around them. He can't go nuclear, he wants SOMETHING of his creation to survive. You don't answer every war with 'saturate the area with nukes'.

Besides, it's pretty Biblical/Torah. Job, the original Satan being a prosecutor/tester,
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>>97136450
I might just be a test by God then. Maybe he is trying to unite people under one true Faith, or cull the weak who would give into sin too easily
>>97136453
>You don't answer every war with 'saturate the area with nukes'.
General MacArthur would just Nuke Barrage Hellmouths if he was in the Universe. I agree as well, having Angels just steamroll through the Heretic Legions would not be very fun at all and there would be no lore or game to play.
And yeah it's very Biblical, "Satan" in Hebrew just means "Opposer" or "Adversary anyway"
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>>97136505
>I might just be a test by God then.
I'm sure you are :^)
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Started doing a 1914 french-inspired scheme for my red brigade boys to find I really did not like the route it was taking so now I am torn between going for a dark green / olive italian alpini / arditi style or going the route of the "official" RB scheme seen in the kickstarter tutorial: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/westfaliaminiatures/trench-crusade-the-red-brigade/posts/4301640

Thoughts?
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>>97136401
Yazidi warband would be interesting. They venerate devil/satan in real world too.
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>>97124516
God you sound weak. If you actually believe in what you claim to believe, wouldn't you kill yourself to strengthen your race? I know it's unlikely that you'll breed but isn't the smart move to comprehensively prevent your failed rot from potentially souring the genepool?
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>>97136512
I made a typo, I need to kms right now
>>97136671
Depends on what you want and can execute, I do like how the kickstarter tutorial looks, maybe you can replace the red there with green instead
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>>97127779
That is a demon and you cannot convince me otherwise.
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>>97136768
>t.
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>>97136705
No they don't, uneducated retard.
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>>97136841
They worship a being who has a name of shaytan among others. The first angel, who in abrahamic tradition is lucifer/satan. If you want to dive into endless nuances go ahead, but I doubt that its useful to anyone.
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>>97136761
Hmm, the armor being red is the only thing I know I will do 100%, though I'll try to use chipping medium instead of the highlighting seen in the tutorial.

I'll try and see if I can make the uniform/cloak green but this'll take a trip to the LGS for more paints
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>>97137130
Green an red might clash well with one another. I got the flamethrower Prussian unit from the box in a green uniform with red highlights, it doesnt look like utter shithmyv0
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>>97136435
There hasn't been any such thing in the game thus far.
That said, I think a heretic force that can grab a unit or 2 from other factions would be cool. It's stated outright that there are traitors from both the IS and NA forces.
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>>97138772
>There hasn't been any such thing in the game thus far.
Yes there has, I would say the Avignon Black Grail "missionaries" are very purposefully parodying christianity

>a heretic force that can grab a unit or 2 from other factions would be cool
Indeed it would be, an insider subfaction or something like that, but the extra units would need to have severe boundaries or it'd be hilariously broken
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>>97139931
>a heretic force that can grab a unit or 2 from other factions would be cool
>Indeed it would be, an insider subfaction or something like that, but the extra units would need to have severe boundaries or it'd be hilariously broken
Just give it to Mammon, it's so hilariously bad, being able to take a unit from someone else at cost would still leave them horribly undergunned. Letting them take a simgle MHI or Jannissary because of their money grubbing ways also feels thematic. What's another pricey unit going to do for Mammon? Make them less shit because they're forced to only take pricey units that prevents them from action economy control?
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>>97139931
With the black grail they had a real world incident to base it off of with the antipope of avignon, is there anything like that for islam,

also im gonna pick up one of the prussian boxes soon anyone got paint recommendations if i wanna go for the box color scheme
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So how long are anons here going to pretend that anyone who disagrees with them is the same guy?
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Don't engage it.
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>>97136505
If I were to pick an answer to why things are happening, it'd be that this is all god's test and the reason he wants neither him nor real demons to show is at that point it'd be completely unfair even by angry-testemant-god standards.
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>>97140168
>tfw mammon is actually the wretched spam army because it’s the only way to get a good action economy
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>>97139931
Those little pig dudes are silly lol
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>>97141836
oh if i'm not wrong, the context is even sillier:

the anti-pope fucked a pig
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>>97121172
In my TC group we've decided to homebrew the Sultanate as heretics who think they are faithful. This makes the lore more interesting/nuanced and makes the Sultanate more legible, reflecting the ways that Islam is evil irl. For Mamluks, we characterize the ones European forces can hire as fighting for freedom against the tyrannical sultanate, and the ones the sultanate can hire as either brainwashed or having had their family kidnapped & held captive. To this end, we reduce the Mamluk hiring cost for the Sultanate players to make it more fluffy. One of our Sultanate players is working on a Rotherham Invasion variant force with fluffy rape themed units.

Highly recommend this approach. We're constantly looking for ways to take the cool basic premise of TC but unfuck the lore and fix the amateurish fan fictiony elements that turn away more mature players. So far this has helped grow the game in our local scene.
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>>97142385
I mean the Sultanate uses Alchemy and Sorcery quite openly, it makes sense to spin them into retards that worship demons by accident. Whatever demon they worship as Allah obviously wants to overthrow hell during the invasion so they can be top dog, hence why they fight demons too.
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>>97142407
Yeah exactly. "Which demon is Allah?" is super thematically rich, and lots of room for playing around with how it's a bunch of different demons.

You can also do fun stuff with various strains of Islamism, like Wahhabism as Abbadonic theology or Sufis as the one subset who worship the real God
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>>97142453
>Which demon is Allah
If we only use the "Ars Goetia" the only two that come to mind are Paimon a king of hell with influence over mortal minds, or Baal whose known to deceive people into worshipping false idols. I like the idea that the Mecca just started floating in mid air and caught aflame and people just started worshipping it as an idol. Story line where it allows to mind control the people of the levant, so the Church has to bomb it to set the people free
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>>97142385
>Sultanate as heretics who think they are faithful
This is genuinely an interesting take, it never occurred to us to do some heavy homebrewing like this despite the weaker points of the lore we agree on.

>One of our Sultanate players is working on a Rotherham Invasion variant force with fluffy rape themed units.
lmfao
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>>97142385
Cool, post models with timestamp.
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>>97142577
Why?
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>>97142707
Reckon people so invested in to the game to make radical homebrew must have SOME models prepped for the table, and actual army shows drives real conversation on an IMAGE board.
So why not?
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>>97141836
>>97142114
The anti-pope did indeed fuck a pig infected with the Black Grail to make a mockery of holy matrimony, which spawned the first of the pig hybrid guys. Whether or not all the little pigmen are the antipope’s spawn or if other people of Avignon fuck diseased pigs to create more, I don’t know.
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>>97121944
game tailor made for guys who think spamming deus vult is funny tells said guys to fuck off
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>>97141836
Im glad we get some pig themed freaks, especially as 'unclean swine'.
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>>97121944
But it hasn't flopped. I see a lot of folks moving on from Necromunda to TC lately.
It is only the vocal minority of yanks that scream bloody murder over being triggered by religious themes and showing the church as not 110% good guys all the time. .
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>>97144442
Yup.
My buddy is a huge orthodox christian skinhead.
He immediately dug the aesthetic; he woulda dumped a few hundy no problem.
But I directed him to the discord drama and developer statements and suddenly his wallet clenched shut tighter than a jailbird's asshole.
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>>97145327
If he was smart he would become the loudest TC fan. Models and rules are free so he could play TC and put his skinhead stamp all over it while not giving them a single cent. That is of course assuming that your story isn't 100% bullshit
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>>97139931
Me on the right
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>>97145327
That orthodox skinhead’s name? Albert Einstein.
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>>97142385
weak b8, post models with timestamp or GTFO. This is the one and only (you) you will get from me
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>>97144778
Yeah no m8. Go back to grooming on discord and stay mad about the stl rugpull
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>>97145395
the pig man or the little creature hanging with him?
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>>97121944
Stl rugpull
GW priced box sets
Shitty lore
Horrible troon infested online community
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Reminder to ignore and hide trolls and “muh rugpull” faggots, because jannies sure as fuck aren’t going to do anything about them shitting up every thread.

Anyway, looking forward to painting up my Herald and maybe a Plague Knight this week. You anons have anything in the pipeline?
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>>97145751
Stay mad finnish manlet
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>>97145408
He's a huge racist Belgian/Georgian.
If you lived in Belgium, you would be racist too.
It is full of evil shitskins and the belgian government, like all other western governments, are retarded Jewish pedos, enslaved by the UN.
I met him on Deeprock Galactic calling people race slurs through a Space Marine voice changer.
He flew to see me once.
We went to an art gallery, it was nice.
Having friends is nice.
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>>97136435
IS
Islamic State
lmao
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>>97146155
Wow what a cool and Totally Real™ story, anon!
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>>97140242
The "official" paint schemes go for a mud brown/yellowish but I think I'd go for the traditional WW1 german grey/greenish grey. You could also go for a more traditionally prussian look of deep dark blue jackets and black pants.

>>97141752
Shotgun wretched my beloved

>>97145751
>You anons have anything in the pipeline?
Too many things honestly, I am waiting on the cossacks kickstarter STLs to arrive and in the meantime I am moving on with some of my non-TC backlog
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>>97146676
>too many things
I feel pretty much the same. I have a Herald, two Thralls, a Hound and a Knight to paint and base. I was unprepared for the amount of detail on the Herald in particular, but I’m excited to give it a go.
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>>97142385
>reflecting the ways that Islam is evil irl
amazing how there are still morons who fell for amerimutt propaganda 20 years ago and still run with it
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>>97147653
>islam dindu nuffin
Fuck off, retard
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>>97147653
t. Inbred zutt lover
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>>97142539
>Which demon is Allah
>If we only use the "Ars Goetia" the only two that come to mind are Paimon a king of hell with influence over mortal minds, or Baal whose known to deceive people into worshipping false idols
Marbas also fits pretty well as the shapeshifter with his lion motifs as well. The Lions of Jabir work great as demonic constructs for Marbas as well.
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>>97145523
>samefagging this obviously
Sad
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>>97148757
I bet you suck cock
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The art is cool even though the lore is pretty amateur. I wish the models looked better.
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>>97144778
>and showing the church as not 110% good guys all the time.
What are you talking about? The game showcases the Church as absolutely on the side of good. I can’t actually think of a situation in the games setting where anyone would say “ummmm aktuchally Hell is in the right on this one my dudes”.

>>97139931
The Avignon Black Grail is keno. I like the dark grey and mustard colour design.

>>97136768
Well it’s holding a star of Repham in its hand.

>>97121944
Cause the map is stupid and doesn’t fit with the sense of impending doom the creators wanted to create.
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>>97148919
>What are you talking about? The game showcases the Church as absolutely on the side of good. I can’t actually think of a situation in the games setting where anyone would say “ummmm aktuchally Hell is in the right on this one my dudes”.

NTA but a lot of people confuse "the faithful have to resert to doing horrible things, and many people in it are cynical or apathetic to human suffering, which is showing how bad things are" as "church is as bad as rape-demons".
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>>97149001
It’d be great if the game attracted a smarter class of trolls but unfortunately we seem to be stuck with absolute windowlickers.
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>>97149001
>I think there’s an important distinction here. Becoming “cynical or apathetic to human suffering” in a setting like Trench Crusade doesn’t automatically make the Church not 110% the good guys. It shows that the 110% good guys are still human. As humans it is a pretty realistic portrayal of what unending total war does. They get numb, transactional, and grim, because if they don’t they break.
From what we’ve actually been shown, the harsh measures taken by the Church and the Christian states are presented as tragic necessity but justified within the logic of the setting. I haven’t seen the Church depicted as gleefully cruel or sadistic for its own sake, it’s always in the context of “this is what it takes to hold the line against Hell.” When Heaven, salvation, and damnation are literally real and visible, the calculus changes.
In that context, burning a village to stop a Black Grail outbreak isn’t “the Church took action that resulted in a outcome I don’t find preferable therefore they aren’t definitively the good guys”
I think an honest person can acknowledgement that nothing, not comfort, life, or even family outweighs stopping something that would damn countless souls. It makes sense to gladly accept even your own village being sacrificed to prevent that. That doesn’t make the Church equivalent to Hell or even questionable; it just shows that in a war like this, there are no clean choices, only necessary ones. And the unclean necessary ARE the good choices.

>>97149019
Pointing out that there isn’t moral complexity doesn’t make me a troll.
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>>97149149
*And the unclean necessary choice ARE the good choices.
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>>97148919
I never said the church in TC wasn't the good guys, but you have to agree that forced genetic experimentation and the general "lesser of two evils" approach to some of the lore events aren't completely altruistic.
Other pearl-clutching reactions include being aghast over the stigmatic nuns form of dress and the Pilgrims equipping their prisoners with suicide devices.

Anyway, i'm a Heretic Legion man myself so i don't really see what the fuss is about in religious circles.
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>>97149154
>forced genetic experimentation
Considering what they are up against, in combination with the tangible positives that arise from it, I would definitely describe it as “altruistic forced genetic experimentation“.
>Other pearl-clutching reactions include being aghast over the stigmatic nuns form of dress
I actually have no problem with that. People pearl clutching over naked nuns can just not by the minis.
>and the Pilgrims equipping their prisoners with suicide devices.
Again, I think that’s entirely altruistic. If literal demons invaded, we now know heaven is literally real and my priest said “hey he’s some bombs go blow yourself up and kill them”. I would be very open to that.
>Anyway, i'm a Heretic Legion man myself
I’m Catholic, but collect Black Grail.
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>>97149149
>Pointing out that there isn’t moral complexity doesn’t make me a troll.
No I wasn’t accusing you of being a troll, I was remarking that the “good guys are just as bad as the bad guys” is a common trolling tactic we see here. Please excuse my lack of clarity.
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>>97149325
My apologies for misunderstanding
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>>97110583
Why are you shills so fucking retarded? I backed this game because of the aesthetic before you retarded children found out about it. It's reasonable to be upset that there will be no future STL releases. The upcoming plastic kits should be released as STLs as well. By the company's own logic, the expanding player base that "demands more" and requires the production of plastic kits is a different demographic whose sales wouldn't overlap with the core backer audience who own 3D printers. Enjoy sucking your own cock faggot.
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>>97149907
He was replying to me, and as you could notice, he didn't reply back when I call his bluff
He was, indeed, a shill, and you can't argue with shills, because you can't change their mind, it's their job
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>>97149907
No, no, after you, you seem to be enjoying the taste well enough.
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>>97149907
>I backed this game
Show the slip with info blocked out.
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>>97149001
I honestly believe a good chunk of the people purposely choose to "confuse" these things because it fits their worldview rather than because they really thought about it

>>97149149
>I haven’t seen the Church depicted as gleefully cruel or sadistic for its own sake, it’s always in the context of “this is what it takes to hold the line against Hell.”
Agreed, when one side is pitch black every shade of grey is lighter

>>97149154
>forced genetic experimentation and the general "lesser of two evils" approach to some of the lore events aren't completely altruistic
Also agreed, you have to tread the fine line of "we're doing what needs to be done" and "when does it stop being for the greater good?"
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>>97145513
The little piggy
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97146155
Fake and incredibly gay
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>>97148919
You seem to have fallen for the false dichotomy that there must be a good guy and a bad guy in any given situation. It is entirely possible that there are no good guys, just varying degrees of bad.

This is especially true when you consider the strong likelihood that the entirety of the Trench Crusade is basically god giving humanity one last shit test, and we are collectively failing it. Earth and humanity have failed, and are squabbling over the scraps, and god has long abandoned humanity until they truly prove themselves as worthy. When you wrestle with a pig in the mud, the only difference between you and the pig is that the pig enjoys it.
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>>97154359
>You seem to have fallen for the false dichotomy that there must be a good guy and a bad guy in any given situation.
I don’t think that at all. In the choice between coffee and tea in the morning I don’t think one option makes you the “good guy” and the other the “bad guy.” So you’re starting by telling me what I believe instead of engaging with what I actually wrote.
>It is entirely possible that there are no good guys, just varying degrees of bad.
Sure. In a purely secular, morally agnostic setting, maybe. But Trench Crusade explicitly isn’t that kind of universe. The setting runs on a very simple chain of logic:
A) The Abrahamic God exists.
B) God is the author of morality; good and evil flow from His character, not from vibes or public opinion.
C) Therefore objective good and objective evil exist and are defined by God.
If A and B are true in Trench Crusade (and they are, we literally have miracles, visions, angels, Hell, etc.), then C follows whether we like it or not. There is a real “side of good” and a real “side of evil,” metaphysically, not just emotionally.
In that framework, Hell, the Black Grail, demons, cults, etc. are objectively evil. The Church is the institution explicitly, and often painfully, aligned with God’s side against them. That doesn’t mean every individual is nice, kind, or psychologically healthy. It does mean that, in the moral geometry of the setting, they are fighting for the Good, even when that involves horrific trade-offs.
>the entirety of the Trench Crusade is basically god giving humanity one last shit test, and we are collectively failing it. Earth and humanity have failed, and are squabbling over the scraps, and god has long abandoned humanity until they truly prove themselves as worthy.
This is just headcanon dressed up as canon. It also clashes with what we’ve actually been shown: Observers literally hearing the voice of God and being guided by it.
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>>97121944
There are so many reason this game is just woke trash. Starting off with it's shitty lore that only there to justify edgy heavy metal album inspired "artpunk." To the point they fucking said there is no real canon cause they can't even handle making the setting make sense from the start.

Then there was the shitting on the fanbase it was getting at the begining cause they were too white and christian dispite using the heavy christian themes.
Going back on everything they said or hinted at. Especially dropping the idea of selling STL of minis.

At the end of the day, when you shit on the first group that joins cause they think you will be different from the changing leader of the hobby, and start to act like every "basic bitch" game copying the main one just with a different gimmick to be different. Is it any shocked that it becomes a DOA game.
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Only faggots play trenchcrusade
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>>97154359
>It is entirely possible that there are no good guys, just varying degrees of bad.
Sir, there is a HELL GATE that will actually OBJECTIVELY determine how evil you are.
>but muh shades
THERE ARE LITERAL DEMONS FROM HELL, AND TO ADVANCE IN THE HERETIC LEGIONS YOU MUST BE THE WORST PEOPLE EVER,
>but christians are fanatical in the setting
HELL EXISTS
GOD IS REAL AS PER THEIR SCRIPTURE
PEOPLE ARE TURNING INTO WALKING MASS GRAVES WITH GUNS OR LITERALLY REVERTING INTO MINDLESS ANIMALS TO UNDO THEIR VERY EXISTENCE.

no you're like a retard.
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>>97142539
>>97142453
what about Baphomet?
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Year on and they're still here? will we ever be free?
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>>97154991
No, but we can keep posting their game sucks and they should leave till they get the hint one day. Though they play trench crusade, I don't think they have the brain power for something like that. Plus I wouldn't doubt half the people posting praise on this shit work for trench crusade and think making boards is free advertising. Though I did hear that one of the poster that dickrides TC is that ACKS hater. So would post ACKS to piss them off.
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>>97121172
So, priest 69 is back huh
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>>97155126
Imagine being on some insane jihad against people discussing a game on /tg/.
You don’t have to like the game but nobody is forcing you to cruise the thread like you cruise for cock every Friday night, you colossal faggot.
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>>97149907
Its been wild watching the game built on I28 blanchitsu kitcbash everything a e s t h e t i c shift to 3d printing and now official models. The various bandwaggoners getting upset at their disposability in the face of commercial markets is some funny shit.
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>>97155317
Found the fag who bought into the TC kickstarter. Did you get your broken minis yet?
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>>97155126
I was referring to your kind retard, stop shitting up the thread christcuck
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>>97154874
People need to up the contrast on their monitors if they see grey and black as the exact same.
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>>97154709
I did engage with what you wrote, but what you wrote is based on a false pretense, which you then precede to have a bitchfit about here. Nothing in in the TC lore states the Abrahamic god is actively helping humanity, and the evidence would be to the contrary as if he truly wanted to help the situation wouldn't be so dire. Using pseud phrases like "moral geometry" only belies how mad you are that your personal IRL beliefs are not reflected in your game of make believe toy soldiers. How sad for you
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>>97154874
Nothing you said contradicts the notion that everyone presented are varying degrees of bad. Black and dark gray are not the same shade, but neither color is white. The metachrists and communicants aren't much less horrific than the Amalgams, and the Homonculi are made by the only god-fearing faction that has had what can be called direct aid from heaven.
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Is there a point to equipping the Lord of Tumors with a melee weapon, since he can just use crushing blows? Or am I missing something?
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>>97155126
>Butthurt over people discussing a game on tg
>They think a thread is advertising
No, only you think that this advertising. Are you that scared of a wargame other than 40k being popular? Go ride you GW slop dildo in some other thread
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>>97156835
Crushing blow lets you attack twice but you get a -1 OFF-HAND penalty on the first attack. It's better against multiple enemies, if I were to equip a weapon I would probably choose the Anti-Tank hammer to get past the armour and get a +1 as well. +5 Dice on a Melee against a tank almost ensures they're dead.
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>>97154709
Or the pilgrims could be communicating with Yaldabaoth and then there's a whole new in-universe spin on morality
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>>97157189
I mean, you can create as many scenarios as you want that have no basis in the lore.
It's the same problem as >>97154359, where you must either ignore or use very fuzzy logic to disregard setting assumptions to support the idea you have.
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I hope someone can get a decent scan of the hardback now that it's in people's hands, since they don't seem to be releasing the new content digitally.
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>>97156792
>Nothing in in the TC lore states the Abrahamic god is actively helping humanity
NTA but what the actual fuck are you talking about? We explicitly know that this is the case; God is not directly engaging no (because reality would end as collateral), but he is absolutely interceding in humanity's defense.
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>>97157090
I thought Crushing Blows was the opposite, the off-hand penalty doesn't apply to the second attack? Or is New Recruit out of date?
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Did they really need to specify in the rulebook that something that occurs on a success, also occurs on a critical success. Were people genuinely that retarded
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>>97159222
NTA, it applies to neither.
And you would take weapons still because Beelzebub’s axe exists
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>>97157090
Black grail can’t take anti tank hammers? That’s a trench pilgrim thing
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Are Muslims still the good guys?
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>>97154874
Do we have lore that god burns evil people in pious armies? Could someone evil do exactly same thing he would on service of hell, but not be punished by god? Or would it be justifiable because its for god?
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>>97159814
>>97159222
>>97159823
Yeah my bad I was wrong, I interpret it wrong
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>>97121172
A sad game with sad players and a sad dev team
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>>97159814
Fair enough, I was thinking of putting the axe on a knight. This was a list build I was tinkering with, does it seem like complete ass?

Black Grail - Buzzing Flies - [697 Ducats]

# ++ Warband ++ [697 Ducats]
## Configuration
Campaign Rules: Disabled
Noble Hierarchy: Led by a Lord of Tumours

## Elite [412 Ducats]
Lord of Tumours [175 Ducats]: Parasite Grenades [15 Ducats], Standard Armour [15 Ducats], Grail Devotee [15 Ducats]
Plague Knight [102 Ducats]: Great Sword/Axe [12 Ducats], Standard Armour [15 Ducats], Compound Eyes Helmet [10 Ducats], Knight of the Rotten Cross [5 Ducats] (Machine Gun)
Plague Knight [135 Ducats]: Beelzebub's Axe [30 Ducats], Gas Grenades [10 Ducats], Standard Armour [15 Ducats], Grail Devotee [15 Ducats], Knight Companion of the Fly [5 Ducats] (Melee)

## Troop [285 Ducats]
Grail Thrall [25 Ducats]: Winged
Grail Thrall [25 Ducats]: Winged
Grail Thrall [25 Ducats]: Winged
Heralds of Beelzebub [80 Ducats]: Maddening Buzz [10 Ducats], Putrid Shotgun [20 Ducats]
Heralds of Beelzebub [75 Ducats]: Infested Rifle [15 Ducats], Compound Eyes Helmet [10 Ducats]
Hound of the Black Grail [55 Ducats]
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>>97159814
I always smile a bit when I see people use my site, saw the trench tactics youtube channel uses it yesterday which was cool.
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>>97156835
You can give him a two handed weapon that is not going to have a -1D to hit by default (yes, I know he has +4D overall so it would be a +3D and a +2D attacks which is still better than 95% of things in the game) and is going to do more damage like a greatsword and a normal sword.

It is perfectly fine to run him without melee weapons this just gives you an extra
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>>97159804
>Were people genuinely that retarded
What do you think?

I also think it is to prevent people asking "ok if Success does X a Critical Success surely would do X^2, right?"
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>>97160421
You deserve it man, the compendium is a godsend, me and my group use it constantly
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Does your Country has Religious figures from the Early 20's that would fit in the Setting?
For example my region has that guy who wanted to build a new "Capital of the World" or "New Jeruzalem". Weird Peseant cult.
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>>97160421
It’s amazing brother I’d honestly be surprised if it doesn’t become the official one
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>>97160349
Couple of things anon, some assumptions made because you’ve disabled campaign rules
>elites
Remove the compound eyes helm off of that plague knight, it only benefits his ranged attacks and he has none. Also rotten cross doesn’t just give you the gun so unless you’re campaign remove it.
>troops
My only issue here is with your thralls, fly thralls unfortunately are in a very sorry state. They can only fly 6 inches, and you lose the black grail toughness. You are essentially a very slow, no armour tar pit that will get destroyed by anything else in the game. I’d always take ground thralls first and then flies as you get more units
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>>97161108
Gotcha, this would be for a campaign ostensibly. I was mostly just using the New Recruit builder and it looked like like it gave them the weapon from the rotten cross. I'd probably still want to take it, and maybe drop a chaff unit to cover the cost. Good shout on the thralls, I liked the idea of flying for mobility but
I guess only six inches isn't worth it.
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>dragon hunt
I like it but it is also a mess
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>>97161698
Its a fun idea but I don't think they quite have neutral units figured out yet.
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>next 3 plastic kits all confirmed to be prussians
Beastfags in shambles
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>>97160421
It's incredibly good, you have done an amazing job anon. Once I am a bit more stable I will support it as well
>>97164184
Confirmed where?
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>>97164233
North stars Facebook and Archons retailer presentation
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>>97164246
Kek based, I might grab myself a sniper priest box when it's out. Weird that they're doing New Antioch again though
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>>97164270
They’ve probably decided to just fill out a range then move to the next one. It’s frustrating but better than half finishing sets
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>>97164305
Yeah that's actually better than leaving them half finished. By that logic we should be getting Combat Medics, Combat Engineers, and Heavy Mechanised Infantry next
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>>97155126
>>97136326
>>97154890
I still feel like Baphomet should be a elevated Djinn or something directly dunking on Christians, especially the countries that supplied the Crusades. After all, the Crusades are what unleashed Satan and friends.
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Much like the artillery witch this thread is an artificial creation. It is only kept alive by lorefags and shitposters saying the game is gay. At least in the GW threads people are talking about the actual fucking game. I’ve counted maybe 5 of you fuckers that actually post models and talk about the game.

If you don’t want to talk about the game itself then LET IT DIE
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>>97164486
Some of the Knights Templar worshipped Baphomet in the 14th century, the French king made mass arrests and had a few of them burned. Baphomet should be a wandering force, something akin to nomads, they should have a huge force of witches and warlocks that wreak havoc on fortified cities
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>>97164519
Ok faggot post your minis first.
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Am I the only one who thinks the guy on the middle is reference to Berserk?
>>97164592
If I recall it right, lore states Baphomet is herald of Lucifer himself. So he's above the court of seven headed serpent. More lore on him would be interesting.
I think he should have knightly force devoted to him.
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>>97164867
I don't know if Baphomet being his own faction would be pushing it. It would definitely be cool for him to have his own custom faction rules and different miniatures like human knights or biblical dragons
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>>97164930
I would say he should have a subfaction, with the court rule set. His personal retinue.
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>>97156792
>I did engage with what you wrote, but what you wrote is based on a false pretense
No you didn’t.
>which you then precede to have a bitchfit about here.
You mean that I called you out for making up head canon and showed how your reasoning doesn’t work with a simple 3 step showcase of logic (which you have been unable to refute).
>Nothing in in the TC lore states the Abrahamic god is actively helping humanity
Wrong. I’ve show how.
>Using pseud phrases like "moral geometry"
I love that you are kvetching about such basic terms.
>only belies how mad you are that your personal IRL beliefs are not reflected in your game of make believe toy soldiers.
oh but it is anon. The fact you are so ass-blasted at your own father that you want to pretend that rape-demons are morally equivalent to God shows that you are just projecting. To use your own words, “How sad for you”. I won’t engage with your Reddit-tier seething further because the OP explicitly states the thread is not for this, but I wish you a merry Christmas :))
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>>97161004
I think a number of figures would fit the setting if you altered them ever so slightly.
Australia - Heinrich Friedrich Niemeyer
United States - Herbert W Armstrong
I know neither Australia or USA would exist in even remotely similar conditions but it goes to show.
Brazil - Jacobina Mentz Maurer
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>>97164867
>Am I the only one who thinks the guy on the middle is reference to Berserk?
You mean WYLD?
I can see it, and it absolutely works. Makes me think of Kingdom Death and how they openly showed love for Berserk.
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>>>97160886
It's kinda sad the current waste potential of the game's lore. Ok, got it, devs are aiming for a mudcore between the classical factions of the abrahamic religions.

But imagine how cool would be adding an "Interpretatio Graeco-Romana" to them (I mean, right now Irish pagans exist in the lore as good guys).

Example: Beelzebub
>for abrahamics
>the "lord of flies"
>the second after Satan (Ares? (Satan - adversary in hebrew; Ares - ruin, curse in doric) Orcus? Typhon?)
>lord of Ekron, destroyer of Avignon
>creator of plagues

>for his followers
> Ba’al Zebûl, "Lord of the Heavenly Dwelling"
>Zeus Myiagros, protector against plagues and flies, patron of doctors and cures
>Greco-Roman God or eu-demon ("good spirit")
>his followers are healthy, immune, beautiful "heroes" (in the Bronze Age sense)

Same for the rest of Hell's hierarchy. I think many people loves more Hellenism than abrahamism because despite the Gods not being Tri-Omni (present, scient, potent) (unless if you enter the Orphic / Platonic / Stoic / Pythagorean rabbitholes), at least, they actually care about their followers unlike Yah "I can't directly intervene despite being Tri-Omni because free will" Weh.

Also, Hellenic / Roman-like WW1 soldiers would look amazing (imagine FINALLY seeing Late-Roman aesthetics alongisde guns, tanks and nukes).
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>>97165474
While a nice idea, I do think there have been far less games that leaned heavily in to Abrahamic faiths as a truism, compared to Hellenic myths.
I wouldn't mind it as a subfaction of some sort, or even a guy's 'My Dudes' warband.
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>>97164604
There, now you
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>>97165598
NTA, but timestamp, NIGGER.
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>>97165616
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My witches.
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>>97165646
... aight, I concede.
But why hate on the thread? Yeah, the trolls are a pain, but its a new game that has some pop on it. You are down for the game, why not talk about your army and your local scene?
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Congrats on the new plastic kits, TC anons. Exciting time to be a part of this... good shit keeps happening.
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>>97165718
oooh nice ones. Bought, found or self-made STLs?
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>>97165734
I have done numerous times, and was engaged with the guys above talking about black grail lists and knights of avarice. I’m complaining because many a general gets absolutely sunk by lorefags and drama baiting. It’s innocent enough but if you’re only interest in the game is lore, especially in one when there isn’t much of it then it’ll die after long enough
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>>97165544
Thanks.
> I do think there have been far less games that leaned heavily in to Abrahamic faiths as a truism, compared to Hellenic myths.
I doubt, because the Hellenic myths portrayed in games, movies, books are always from the fanfics of Hesiod and Homer. I don't remember any franchise where Hellenism is protrayed through an Orphic perspective (for example).

Also, not many people know that since abrahamism descends from Phoenician / Canaanite religion, you can make it fit with Hellenism without to much problems. Check out the Sanchuniathon by Philo of Byblos.
>"Interpretatio Phoenicia" of the Greek Cosmogony
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>>97165236
>nuh-uh: the post
I accept your concession
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They didn't put any bubble wrap in the box at all and my rulebook has a dented corner now.
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I'm looking at the STLs and it seems there's a lot of weapon options missing when compared to what I see on warband construction site, are they're going to add more with time or are you expected to kitbash stuff like the heavy flamer for the mechanized infantry?
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>>97165646
Alright fair enough, I am still a beginner and my painting looks like shit. Also the game is incredibly new, there won't be a lot of people posting minis until more boxes come out
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>>97165474
I would like a sub faction of non heretic pagans, a mixture of Norse, Hellenic/Roman, and obviously Irish pagan. It would be fun to have different sub factions battling it out with both the Church and Hell.
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>>97168124
Eire rangers are close to that. You can just homebrew them to be full fianna pagans.
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>>97167730
There are weapon add-on STL kits that cover most options.
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>>97168114
painted even poorly is better than never painted at all anon. though i suggest thinning it down a bit and working on your coverage. maybe it's a trick of the light but i am seein some clumping.
nice desk btw.
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>>97164519
>>97165878
Anon, i'm 1000% with you
honestly i wish the turnip28 guy was here so we could be a stealth turnip thread.
the benefit of this thread however is that we aren't shitting up other threads with trench crusade shitposting.
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>>97164867
>Am I the only one who thinks the guy on the middle is reference to Berserk?
yeah that's wylad
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How do you guys think any of the meta christs looked like?
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>>97169805
I do think the real answer would be 'they're all different'.

My assumption is "gross body, divine look". So they would have halos or stigmata or they project an aura of purity, but they're misshapen or skinless or obese or all the above.
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>>97167730
I think they went with the idea that since players are expected to have public warband lists, and since campaigns would have them probably changing equipment all the time, you aren't expected to WYSIWYG with the equipment and so they just went with a few nice-looking options.
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>>97169738
Thinning is something I need to practice more, it’s either way too watery or not at all. Thanks for the tip
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>>97169641
I don't see the Antioch ones on cults, at least as a separate pack. Could you bum me a link please?
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>>97169805
well we know they can't speak properly, so probably they looked 'bad'
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>>97167730
>are you expected to kitbash stuff like the heavy flamer for the mechanized infantry?
Yes you are, people have made "digital kitbashes" with heavy flamers and grenade launchers for the official models HMI for example but I've only seen them in telegram not in cults3d. Also faction models were made by different people, New Antioch and the iron sultanate are mostly monoposes while the Heretic Legion and the Trench Pilgrims have considerably more variety in how you build them

In cults3d and myminifactory what you have is people who have made some very good proxies for most factions, New Antioch specially, from Prussians to Abyssinians to made up sub-factions like bizantines, cossaks and spanish conquistadores, etc

Also remember the game is neither expecting you to have the official models nor WYSIWYG
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>>97165734
>why not talk about your army and your local scene
Honestly I stopped painting and playing during august since I moved out during the summer and I've only retaken it recently so I have nothing new to show yet. Still, games should restart during christmas so I'll have more to post these next weeks

Posting all my minis, pic quality and lightning is shit but most of the minis in the image I've posted over the months here, still I can post old pics with better quality if someone wants a closer look.
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>>97171801
I'm going to kill myself
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>>97171325
They are called "Church weapon Sprue" and Church Accessory Sprue" due to being combo kits for both New Antioch and Trench Pilgrims.

https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-church-weapons-sprue-trench-crusade-443423

https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-church-accessory-sprue-trench-crusade-443422
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Companion anon here, pushed an update that should massively improve the warband builder's speed. Let me know if anything fucks up.
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where the fuck is my book, did they delay this shit again
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>>97173671

USA/CA

>Some bad news on this front I’m afraid folks: we’ve been informed that the shipment of books will not be arriving until the 27th of December now. As a result, deliveries will not begin until the new year. We apologize for this delay, but it is completely outside of our control. Whilst we were expecting a delay of a few days due to the busy season, we weren’t expecting nearly two weeks. We’re currently discussing dates with the logistics company and will have more info in the next update.
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>>97173671
I got my book yesterday, so they are hitting mailboxes at least
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>>97173374
I never had an issue with the speed in the first place, but I disabled legacy content anyway.

Had my first ad pop up too, it was for laxatives. Unfortunate.
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>>97173822
US?
>>97173676
This shit better be worth the wait all I care about is having a shelf piece with cool art
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>>97173943
I never knew how hard it was to get google ads, no wonder so many sites just serve hot-singles-in-your-area.
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I am tired of left hand path niggers
>hurrdidurr I just negate your hit
>lawl Iz tellyport n shoot u
Oh but it requires blood, blood isn't THAT hard to get
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>>97174488
Courtniggers have to be absolutely dominated before they start racking up blood unfortunately

Saying that my ‘solution’ to left handed path was for my lord of tumours to randomly shotgun its head off turn 1
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>>97174343
>US?
Nah I'm in sweden.
Guess you got fucked by the shipping problems mentioned by >>97173676
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>>97121172
Remember boys play games.
One guy was playing court and prussians
Prussian player is being a WAACfag, and hopefully I can break him off that before it becomes a problem. I don't want my hobby leagues to be giant must win sweatfests when they should be fun and lighthearted
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>>97175256
Forgot my image
Either way any advice on fixing players like that?
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>>97173943
Buy them. Make cheap mud for your mudcore.
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I'm looking through the lore on site. Why is there no book II? It goes straight from I to III.



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