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If Lyrans have lots of assault mechs, would even mercenaries from the Lyran Commonwealth have access to more assault mechs than mercs from other places?

>>97130788
Think one of those mercenaries sourcebooks said pretty much that.

Butte held
Clanners dead
Armaris dead

Life is good frienz.

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We all love Lyran assaults and their scouting potential, but y'know what doesn't get a lot of love? Their lights, mediums, and heavies. What is your favorite? I like the Dart.

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>>97130838
>Life is good frienz.

It is. As proof, here's a thing. For anyone who still wants it, behold the new edition of the Have Mech, Will Travel rules. I don't plan to make another one unless and until AtB breaks permanently and something new comes up.
>mediafire com/file/2l15k4qxs4ypfjg/Have_Mech_Will_Travel_v6.pdf/file

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>>97130845
When it comes to Lyran designs I think it'd be easier to say what designs I don't like. If I was to pick one I'm very fond of the Starslayer.

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>>97130838

>>97130781
Mein Führer... Steiner...

>>97130997
Steiner lost Sheliak to Clan Ghost Bear.
They fought an army of 8 foot tall space gorillas in American Football and lost.

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>>97130845
I like gauss rifles so I'm fond of the Hollander and its picasso-esque art.

>>97131047
Somehow I never noticed that the cockpit is pointed 45 degrees off the axis of the gauss

>>97131059
Did you notice the fist pump though?

>>97131065
>Gauss strikes a Dire Wolf in the cockpit.
>Hollander Pilot: "SCORE!"

>>97130875
NEA, bro, glad you're here.

What are your three favourite assault mechs from the 3025 era?

>>97130997
>>97131015

I get the joke, but do note Sheliak was Draconis Combine territory prior to December 3051.

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Catching up on the last thread here:
>Discussion about Blakist-Chan
I haven't read this fanfic, does anyone have a link?
>Thoughts on the Falcon
I like how it looks, but no variant really speaks to me.

>>97131233
I don't think Blakist-Chan coalesced into a solid fanfic, just some ideas we tossed around.

Falcon, Griffin, 2x Starslayers
2x Falcons, 2x Starslayers
Or some other combination?

>>97131233
I'm at work, I'll post the art when I'm home.

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>>97131233
The coolest thing about the Falcon is that its the progenitor to the Drift Shag which has arguably the dumbest name for a mech in the setting

>>97131233
It's meant to be a bug hunter, but not many variants seem particularly suited to it. I haven't tried the snub ppc version but it looks like it could do some damage

>>97131346
Griffin, Starslayer, Blitzkrieg, Wolfhound

Good striker lance.

>>97131169
>Victor for that Death from Above
>Battlemaster
>Awesome

>>97130788
Mercs even get more assault and Clan tech heavy Battle Armor in Lyran space.

>The Mongoose arrived.
>The 30 dollar citadel clippers for plastic minis broke.
:')
Any suggestions for a clipper type? I got the little hand drill on order from the last thread.

>>97131716
Pay daddy GW more money. They own the tabletop gaming hobby, after all. Pay them their due. No one else can make clippers for plastic models.

>>97131716
>>97131739
What clippers? For snipping nubs off?

I just use cuticle clippers from nail care aisles. They're like 2 bucks an have multiple shapes.

>>97131716
I have some Tamiya clippers I got years ago for $15-20 that still works wonders. Recently I visited the Draconis Combine and bought one of those crazy Godhands since they aren't as absurdly overpriced there and the exchange rate was heavily in my favor. Haven't actually sat down and put it through its paces yet however.

I just use wire snips do you all not have those

>>97129590
I mean, you could just lower the weight limit from time to time to let you dust off your lights occasionally, like hardmode versions of act 1 missions, no fundamental rework needed

>>97131716
The important thing is to have a flat edge. If it's double beveled, it'll crimp the parts you don't want to damage.

>>97131897
The problem is just the sheer amount of enemies you have to fight. Most engagements in universe are typically around the same size forces none of this single lance destroying a whole company every day. Aidan Pryde's last stand is literally just a typical mission in any of the games. HBS BT was really bad about this until the mod overhaul added bigger drops, then Id actually bring striker lances into 4 and 5 skull missions because I could also bring a lance of heavies/assaults to support and throw down.

>>97131716
Get a micromark or godhand. Don't play 50 dollars for 10-20 buck clippers.

Tamiya is probably fine too.

>>97131716
>>97132007
Wait hold up, were you using it on a metal mini?

Don't fucking do that. Get a side-cutting clipper made for fucking metal man.

>>97130788
I want to like the Steiner Crud with the heavy gauss, but it's basically been cursed for both me and a friend. His merc company had a disastrous outing with it and then sold it to my company, and everything went well until an AC5 using AP rounds got a crit that blew up the gauss.

>>97132013
Gonna head to the hobby store tonight and see if they got some.
Would some old wire cutters work too?

>>97132175
Your mileage may vary. If they're small enough and have a nice enough edge they'll probably be good. Just know that for metal you might need to get out a file or (carefully) shave excess with a craft knife.

>>97132192
Noted. I'll check the edge tonight then. Think I got a file too.

Which Clan is most receptive to headpats?

>>97132215
Ghost Bear's followed by Snow Ravens.
Then Ice Hellions.

>>97131957
the amount/tonnage of enemies would obviously be adjusted for lighter missions, you wouldn't just force the player to bring a kit fox star into an unchanged 8 assault lance marathon
didn't mercenaries have varied drop limits for its procgen missions anyway?

>Ulric
>being sad about a war that will be forever written into the Rememberance where

>the Wolves emerged as NUMBA ONE
>the Wolves teabagged the Falcons by helping them getting their loss counted as a draw
>he personally got to teabag the Crusader movement in general

I really don't get on what basis they pictured him as SAAAD.

Yo mamas so fat we need a Power Loader with TSM to lift her

What are some good sources of information for Battle Armor?

How would you organize dropping infantry into a city you have to take, would you use an APC or drop them in by Vtols and helicopters?

>>97132679
VTOL. I ain't scared of no rifleman

>>97132719
You should. They could grab a RPG and hold burger town from your guys.

Apologies if this is a dumb question, but how common is it for mercenary companies to have a unified paint scheme (as opposed to just "whatever the mech looked like when they got hired")?

>>97132984
Normal for more organized units to have a common parade scheme, many save money and just use the same camo. Having matching schemes helps prevent misidentifying each other during a fight. Some have individual companies or regiments have their own though. Camacho Caballeros is the extreme end of the spectrum where everyone has their own thing and go nuts with it. Like a gold reflective battlemaster or a bumblebee dazzle paint stinger. I think they also have a Locust covered in rubber ducks too.

>>97132984
Most permanent companies have a unified scheme, but there are a couple examples of a la carte groups. Ace Darwin's Whipits use whatever scheme they came with but with a pink cat paw on one of their mech heels or down on one side of a vehicle. One of the pirate groups that fought Fronc in the 3080s was made up of whoever bought in, and they use whatever paint scheme they want with a red stripe from shoulder to hip.

>>97132048
That's just the Crusader experience, they explode regardless of whats in there. The twin plasma rifle model is a lot of fun though.

>>97132285
It'd be cool if contracts were several connected missions and having the option to do actual scouting or fast raider missions affected enemy strength in later ones and such. That's asking a lot for how lazy those procgen missions are.

>>97133107
>>97133126
Right on. When I started painting mechs I didn't know dick about the universe and couldn't pick a "scheme", so I just painted them individually based on whatever colors I felt like painting at the time.

I know it doesn't matter from a gameplay perspective, but I was just curious about whether it shows up in the lore.

Will the paper fold terrains in the AS box and the Aces box be too big to be used in hex maps?

Damn, there's no way Comstar could shove Endo structure and XL engines into all those Clanbuster mechs in just few months of time

>>97133828
Comstar? Actually yes. They were preparing for this showdown since the start of the invasion and the Terran system industrial capabilities makes Hesperus II look like a back alley workshop. Think Skobel alone had something like six factories on Terra that were fully reactivated by time of Tukayyid. Also the mechs they were refitting usually had Endo to start with.

Did Comstar lose the ability to produce lostech when everyone else did? I know they had a bunch of stuff mothballed, but I don't think Comstar had anything like the helm core in their back pocket before everyone else did.

ComStar had been squirreling away knowledge for literal centuries. They would have seized the helm memory core, copied what they didn't have and destroy it if it hadn't been for Grayson and his meddling mercs.

>>97133910
I don't think they lost anything, they just stopped making most military stuff because they didn't need to. The technology that got lost was mostly exclusive star league royal stuff that the great houses only had under very restrictive licenses or were considered secret, so the technical details were in secure facilities that got nuked and the actual machines to make it got nuked. Comstar only lost things that the fading star league deliberately hid, like the Nighthawk suits. But they also had a fuck ton of pristine star league leftovers, so didn't need to make anything other than maintenance replacements.

>>97133910
They probably could produce lostech, but didn't really need to because they had so much of it hidden away for a rainy day.

>>97133942
The whole reason they got away with it was because of the comstar acolytes who felt the percentor was betraying blake's vision.

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Played a game today, Naginata Battalion vs Gray Primer Legion blakists

>>97134375
The game turned in Naginata's favor early on when the Catapult scored a heavy PPC hit on the Hermes II that killed its XL engine in one shot. Blakists never really recovered from that, even though they got a C3-enhnced kill on Naginata's raptor. The Catapult settled in to duel the Blakists' retrotech Archer and the Mercury tried to backstab the catapult, while the Kuritans' Guardian and No-Dachi went for the King Crab. This turned decisively in the Kuritans' favor when the King Crab fell over, allowing the No-Dachi to go for an accurate strike with the sword and decapitate it on a 6.

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>>97134404
Pic

We're having CRAB tonight

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>>97130781
I don't like that tactical aesthetic, doesn't really fit the 80's retrofuturistic feeling of the setting, prefer something more like pic related.

>>97134227
and those were actual death commandos raiding NAIS.

>>97134412
I'm having a moment. I can see the no-dachi, King Crab and... whatever the third one is? What the heck is that?

>>97134458

>ironically, I think I've seen like 85% of that image on Avalon Hill game box art.

>>97133910
I have a vague memory of reading that they didn't have the actual manufacturing ability for a lot of it but they had all the technical information in their library.

>>97134412
Dangerously based.

Also poor Hermes, I never much saw a use to field them the LL one is pretty decent but I've never had luck with them on table.

>>97132679
Drill up from underground.

>>97132984

You have to repaint after most battles anyway since you're replacing armor and whatnot, so why not a unified scheme?

>>97133828
They didn't refit Endo Steel, but swapping an XL engine in is pretty fast and easy.

Don't forget that they had a bunch of Royals, too, so many of their variants (like the Archer) might have had ES to begin with.

>>97134806
Not really any reason to paint mechs in the first place. Not like you have to worry about rust.

>>97134816
Didn't comstar have a shitton of like... 240s or 300s that they slapped into different stuff?

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Back from work and finished my big piece.
>>97131233
>Discussion about Blakist-Chan. I haven't read this fanfic, does anyone have a link?
Blakist-Chan/Blakist Girl was a character I made up as a joke several months ago. Inspired by the guy who made all the megamek team posts, I made her. Her background was built up with the fellas on /btg/:
>Blakist Girl is the result of two Comstar soldiers who, after surviving Tukayyid, promptly fucked their brains out, and the abandoned their "We survived" baby.
>Since a lot of orphanages are ran by Comstar, she was soon picked up by them.
>Learning she's the kid of two of their soldiers, a Tanker and Medic respectively, one of the caretakers adopted her and raised her within Comstar itself.
>She eventually showed an interest and desire for Battlemechs and grew up a devoted Blakist, as her adopted mother was such one.
>When she was old enough, she gained a Mongoose-66 and modified it with a flamethrower.
>During the schism, she sided with the Word, and by 3077 had joined the 31st Division within the Word.
>Stationed on an occupied world, raised entirely within the army, and having no outside friends or rivals, she didn't know how to really act or socialize with people.
>During a day she was allowed to have off barracks, she met a clerk at a department store and became smitten.
>So smitten she became Yandere, hence pic related. She visited the guy at 1AM and wanted to take him in her Mongoose on a ride.
There were several Greentexts, from her visiting him while in uniform to her surprising him at his apartment while news and footage of her Mongoose terrorizing protestors played in the next room. The middle isn't fleshed out too much, but I do have an end, where she takes him as her division pulls back to Terra and she desperately tries to defend the Word's holdings as things become evident they've lost.
Pic related, first drawing I made.

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>>97134955
And this is what I just finished up. The original idea was that she would've lost her Mongoose when an Atlas fell on it, but I wasn't confident depicting that so the leg was blown off.
Her name is Yoshabel Ornstein.

>>97134829
The big stash was 300s, but they had some 240s which they used on the Hussar but those 240s had single heat sinks which is why they swapped the Hussar's ERLL with an LBX 10. Similarly in using what they had, their refit Champion's large lasers were the ones they pulled off of Wyverns that got refit with LPLs.

>>97134993
I actually love this lore. All of it, like having XLs jammed with SHS. Can you picture generations later these things stored away being told how great they are and then.. well wow look how light this is.. and it's filled with... ohhh....

the Champion with two LL is flavor wise just a great mech imho.

There's no reason to have complicated feelings about Vlad. The man was an asshole. An actual stuck-up jerk. People just did not like him, outside that one slender thread of animal magnetism which when combined with actual warrior competence, cunning, and a surprisingly childlike adherence to some kind of ideal (fittingly one that vouched for his own supremacy) made it appear he had a personality.

But if you were ever down to one busted warrior in one busted mech, and you still wanted to win the whole fucking lot, you wanted... Phelan Kell. But if Phelan Kell was taken, you drafted Vlad Ward.

>>97134993
>>97135016
I like that they gave NARCs to the Phoenix Hawks...because they'd pulled a bunch off of the Kintaros for ROSEBUD and just had them lying around.

>>97134546
Gladiator. The Kuritan mech from the proliferation pack. Basically a slightly different Wolverine in its normal fig, this one's got a snub nose PPC and jumps 6.

>>97130875
Keep your off topic homebrew shit out of here. You aren't one of us, and you aren't welcome here. Fuck off.

>>97135247
Hi Faith

>>97135043
Good analysis but remember that it is a *literary* analysis as opposed to a “historical” one. Phelan is superior by narrative fiat because he is The Protagonist. And Vlad is just an ancillary character, specifically a foil to Phelan. If you read the fiction as hagiography (Wolf-in-Exile propaganda) rather than history, the depiction of Phelan is sickeningly sycophantic and, by contrast, Vlad (even with all of his abrasiveness) can seem preferable.

It's been a while since I've played MW5 Mercs, but when did they nerf Ryana's ass?

>>97135086
Yes! Also it's super on lore for them, not better mech to run a narc imho.

>>97130875
AtB is deprecated and StratConcan now be used mapless

>>97132679
>drop them in by Vtols and helicopters?
Jump Infantry from VTOLs baby!

>>97132679
What's my budget? I've been looking for Goblin minis for a while to ferry infantry around; just to have something with a little more meat than just motorized/mechanized.

I think the humble "blob of infantry with some SRM launchers" is underrated; though jump troops are still ultra fucking cool.

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should I grab these mechwarriors in case CGL releases LAM forcepacks?

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>>97132679
I have both APCs and VTOL
It would depend on a lot of factors
I do love my Goblin IFVs tho

>>97135388
A 6/9/6 with ECM is definitely a better Mech than some random 5/8, albeit one with better armor.

>>97133731
The hex maps are "map scale" which is 30 meters from flat edge to flat edge. The paper terrain in AS is "mech scale" which is more or less 6mm scale. So the AS buildings are much too large in comparison to the hex maps as the hex maps are intended to be used.

>>97134963
I'm not going to shit on your artistic ability, but that composition is balls.

>>97134955
>>97134963
Thanks for delivering. I really dig it. Hope you post more anon and hopefully I don't miss them when you do. (I drop in and out of the threads depending on how much free time I've got.)

Mech penal lance~company; possible?

>>97135751
Look up the Drac chain gang missions

>>97130875
I'll probably never use it, but I think it's cool anyway.

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>>97135751
No, only a division.

>>97135508
Those dont look proper scale.

>>97135751
It's your mechs and warriors, what you do with them is your problem - but giving people with objectively poor judgement and/or impulse control (which are kinda required to fall out of favor with the parent organization) godlike firepower and setting them loose is not a good idea. And don't even start with collar bombs or kill switches or stuff like that, just give the mechs to reliable crew.

>>97135838
>And don't even start with collar bombs or kill switches or stuff like that, just give the mechs to reliable crew

Protomechs it is

>>97135474
BA from Kirghizes!

>>97132679
Drop in APCs from King Karnovs

>>97132679
Land an Intruder in the middle of the town.

>>97135889
>nuggeting inmates to shove into salvaged protomechs after hearing about the blakists doing it
fund it

>>97130875
Thanks for this NEA.

With Olive drab and Tan already being used for other regiment, which color should I use for the 'neutral' faction/tanks that I can use regardless of the main army I use as a suppliment?

>>97130875
Is this for Mechwarrior RPG? Or Battletech campaign like, Hinterlands?

>>97135043
Phelan Kell is a freeborn bastard who has no claim to the Ward name. No claim at all

>>97130875
What's the intended starting year?

>>97135327
Ranna should have been the Khan of Wolf in Exile. This is sexism

>>97135751
Maybe infantry or hovercraft unit at most. Mechs are too expensive. It's like letting criminals fly F-35s. Clans have the Solahma units for old underachieving warriors, though not criminals.

>>97135735
Y'know, looking back on it now in its full glory, it's not as bad ass as I envisioned in my head. Still, spent a week on it, kinda like finally giving her colors. I appreciate the honesty.
>>97135742
Thanks man, I appreciate the feedback. Don't always have time to be in these threads anymore but I'll see what I can do. I'm not the best artist but Battletech is a fun series to draw.

>>97136331
>Mechs are too expensive. It's like letting criminals fly F-35s
iirc that was the plot of Ace Combat 6, which is pretty funny desu

>>97136575
Ace 5, and for some reason again Ace 7.

>>97136205
Grey

Can TW generic LRM infantry fire indirectly?

>>97136258
It should have been Katya Kerensky. CW book makes her sound like Ulric's protégé, and then she fades into the background. "Rallying point for Warden Wolves" my ass.

>>97137305
>Katya Kerensky
Literally who?
They wrote like they wanted to do something with her and then completely forgot she existed

>>97134955
Ever thought of drawing a Jade Falcon-Chan laughing maniacally after the Battle of Tukayyid rubbing her face with the blood of the Comguards?

>>97134963
what kind of stupid clown outfit is this

Are the fedsuns going to keep being the punching back or will they get to do something?

>>97137499
It's a cooling suit. The Star League had them, and I figure Comstar and the Word kept them. I didn't know what the colors were so I defaulted to the Staff League scheme that's found on Sarna.
>>97137490
What's she look like?

>>97136575
A perhaps surprising quantity of japanese media involves penal units equipped with cutting edge technology, like mechs.

>>97137684
Good question. I'd say a younger Elizabeth Hazen because the Hazen genetics seem to dial Jade Falcon crazy and bloodthirsty factors up to eleven.

>>97137801
Mmmm.
Maybe.

>>97136564
>Don't always have time to be in these threads anymore but I'll see what I can do.
I get you dude, I'm in the same position. d(ﾟｰﾟ)
>I'm not the best artist but Battletech is a fun series to draw.
While humility is a virtue, don't get too down on yourself either. Your art has heart (or should I say SOVL) and that shines through.
I'm not buttering you up or anything when I say I like it - I genuinely mean it. Your art makes me think of a cross between Stephen Silver and/or Butch Hartman's styles*, specifically their work on Danny Phantom, which, despite being a little after my time (that was more my markedly younger brother's jam), I always appreciated it.
If you ever have time for commissions I'm curious how comfortable you'd be drawing up a Scorpion BattleMech and a very, very old MechWarrior...

(* - With some animu oldchan influences too of course)

>>97137327
Exactly my point

>>97137186
>Can TW generic LRM infantry fire indirectly?
I believe so.

>>97138029
I will admit that's a bit of an interesting mish-mash of artists, especially since I haven't watched FoP or Kim Possible in round about twenty years. To that I say thank you.
As for a Scorpion and a very, very old MechWarrior - maybe. There are things that must be done first.

>>97137641
No. They HAVE to be punished for daring to be relevant (while not being Clan Wolf) 20 years ago

>>97134955
>>97134963
Interesting. I had an idea for my own fic involving a mech that took part in the liberation of terra, got wrecked, and was later rediscovered and fixed up in time for tukayyid, with it too being a mongoose. What is it about that mech?

>>97139073
20? Try 30 anon. It has been that long.

>>97139091
It, with the Mercury, Hussar, Locust, and Commando, make good Light Mooks. Plus, it's OG art gives it a good face with distinct eyes and a weird ass set of legs that probably gives it a strange gait.
I picked it over the Mercury on a coin flip.

Now that Natasha has a 3d model and the looks of a 40 year old Milf
When rule34?

>>97139636
ask the drawfag

>>97137641
>Are the fedsuns going to keep being the punching back or will they get to do something?
100 years and a long, hard dicking by the Combine still isn't enough to make up for their antics in the Fourth Succession War.

>>97138612
>There are things that must be done first.
By all means, your own projects take priority. But leaving the door open should you want a little scratch in exchange for a drawing of my own fanfic.
>>97138612
The Mongoose is one of the best IS light mechs out there as far as I'm concerned. What >>97139496 said is also true, but I think it's a case where the mech is great both to look at as well as to field.

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>>97139976
This is correct. Only the complete and total death of the faction and elimination of the Davion family name from the setting, permanently (not like that faggy "bring back the Smoke Jags" storyline), is going to make up for the 4th Succession War. We won't be even until we've reclaimed our ancestral Capellan worlds like Wernke, New Avalon, Robinson, and Delos IV.

>>97140074
Ha, those are all me.

I'll see what I can do.

>>97134816
But a lot of the clanbusters are a bit worse than Royals.

Hope the 3rdSL and CapCon, CGB and DC destroy each other

In terms of the preferred type of mechs, weapons and tactics they use, how would you describe the CGB, CJF and DC's theme?

>>97140537
Hopefully everyone outside the Taurian Concordat destroys each other. We're the only faction that hasn't been permanently spoiled by faggotry.

>>97140694
This feels like a false flag. Has to be.

Who is actually left in the Kerensky cluster in 3152 and why is it hard to look up?

>>97140712
Adders, Cobras, half of the Horses, the shredded remains of the Coyotes.

>dont like cappy govt/society
>love cappy mechs and techy stealth
What do?

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>>97140755
How do you feel about sheep?

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>>97140755
The Capcon treats their mercenaries pretty well.

>>97140712
They haven't touched anything coreward of the Jarnfolk since they wrapped up the Reaving story. There's literally nothing to research.

Stupid newbie question: with the Battletech Gothic box I got my first mini with a clear stand on the base in the form of the Scorpion. What's the best way to protect that stand when I go to prime the mini? Should I look into some sort of painting or electrical tape, or would some washi tape I had lying around work?

>>97140826
I just paint those black. But any tape works as long as it doesn't touch the mini.

>>97140826
Anything from masking tape to silly putty. I think a lot of people use putty of some kind since its reusable and doesn't stick to plastic too hard.

>>97140826
>>97140839
blue tack also works.

>>97140755
Stop taking it seriously and lean into the cartoon villainy.

>>97140732
It's like an HOA with just two board member houses and two rentals

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>>97140732
>>97140885
One day, surely. The lions will have their time in the sun.

>>97140963
And here's the illegal sublet in one of the board member's basement.

>>97140963
The devs can barely remember the real Horsies.

>>97140963
I pwn quadvees and I still forgot abput that name change

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Second game in two days

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>>97141056
In the first game, my Tenshi got a round 2 light PPC TAC into headshot into cockpit crit on the Warhammer. Since this was a playtest and that wasn't going to produce useful info, we reset.

>>97141061
I really like these guys. Can you get a zoom in on that Mercury? Love those little guys.

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>>97141061
Second go round, no crazy hits. My Tenshi knocked out the Archer pilot with her rockets and then stomped its CT to death while unconscious. My Hatamoto-Chi went for several rounds against the Warhammer before getting Gyro-killed. My Tai-Sho didn't achieve much. And my Rokurokubi grabbed an objective and ran away.

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>>97141072
Best i can do is a crop. Mercury's a good mech though, I have one in my omni company.

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>>97141056
I love my Tenshi for looks, just wish it had a more solid config. Gauss rifle, 5x LPPCs, rockets, and supercharger is rather questionable, and none of the other configs are much better

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>>97141028
Not the worst thing, really.
What little we do get is pretty good.

>>97141109
That's hilarious.

Since it's drac time, I want to like the Rokurokubi, but I just don't see how to use it well. It's only a little fast, no jump, weak weapons. It's got a very heavy load of armor, but it's still light mech armor.

>>97140732
I always felt like the Coyotes were done a little dirty.

Okay, yes, the Society being based in them made perfect sense since they were always "the Scientist Clan".

But the OG Wolf Clan book and WoK and FM:WC repeatedly mention their alliance with the Wolves, and there was Wylie's Coyotes, and then...nothing.

But I have an obsession with shared Occupation Zones. I want the Snow Ravens to have moved in with the Ghost Bears, and maybe the Wolves with the Coyotes. I love the small handful of real alliances we see in the Clans. They're such a contentious people, it's nice to see real friendship.

>>97141132
It's a light Mech hunter. It's fast enough to catch most lights, it's well-defended enough to get there without being killed, and you don't need that much damage output to kill them.

But yeah, it's crap.

>>97141061
So many people do the Lyran Guards wrong that they should just fucking change the canon paint scheme to match what everyone does anyway.

>>97141132
A LAC/5 with one bin of precision and one bin of AP isn't... the worst thing.

>>97141169
Well what is the proper version of the Lyran Guards color scheme then?

>>97141132
I used the clan ERPPC one and it did okay, but yeah it really needs a config that gives it a large vibroblade so it can try to headchop

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>>97141222
>I used the clan ERPPC one and it did okay

There is literally no Mech that a CERPPC doesn't make at least okay.

>>97141056
>>97141061
sweet paintjobs

>>97141405
Watch me pull the old SHS trick.

>>97141213
>>97141213
>"Lyran Guard equipment is painted blue, with white applied as a broad vertical stripe covering portions of the right torso, arm, and leg."
PORTIONS of the right leg and arm. Not ALL of the right leg and arm. There has to be some blue on the outside of the leg and arm in order to be a correct scheme. Get it fucking right you illiterate faggots.

>>97141560
it just doesn’t look as good
so many of the canon color schemes look kinda lame

>>97141560
Canon depictions disagree with you but that's ok anon not everyone can afford to advance past the tourist stage

I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Khan Kerensky

>>97141599
Why not?

>>97141599
Correct. I did.

>>97141599
Do you think Clantech can make septuagenarian women be able to get wet?

I think the Battletech setting would have broader appeal if they removed the mechs, focused on a single planet containing a resource making all space travel and communication possible, and introduced a messianic character to show the dangers of religious fanaticism

>>97141560
>giving this much of a shit
Its a game. People can paint their doods however they like. They're lyran enough from a table view. Id be happy to see someone make the effort to respect a Canon scheme and wouldn't fret over the details.

Now if you want to nitpick show pieces at larger scale, then it makes more sense to be a purist.

>>97141665
I think your average battletech player has read more of the dune books than you have. You probably dont even know about the space amazonians that mind control men by being the literal best at having sex in the galaxy.

Well, I think I'm going to pull the trigger and start with building a pirate force after looking at assorted mechs. The setting certainly is cool, and I kinda want to see if I can paint shark teeth on a Banshee.

>>97141665
>introduced a messianic character to show the dangers of religious fanaticism

Blakists exist

holy fucking shit the Zeus heavy rifle hits with 50,000 foot pounds of energy

>>97141715
>foot pounds
feet mentioned

>>97141693
Lol, I thought he meant Avatar!

But BT could definitely use women who give such good sex that it brainwashes you.

>>97141715
Where's it say that?

Wouldn't that break your shoulder? It's 20x 7.62x51.

>>97141735
Avatar had mechs

>>97141739
The Zeus is noted as firing a 700 grain, 13mm projectile at least 5 times the speed of sound. That's a .50 BMG projectile moving twice as fast as normal. Absurd amount of firepower and Taurians field them for civilian militias standard.

>>97141772
Jesus.

It's good that the TC had public healthcare. I hope they have good orthopedes.

>>97141741
Protomechs at best. Big battle armor more likely. Wouldn't say heavy since theyre made of paper and glass.

>>97141791
They're at best equal to the Team Bansai Gorilla suits

>>97141781
It's only 5 shots a magazine and considering how little damage it does at tabletop, it's reasonable to assume most people are missing most of their shots and then having to reload frequently. It's also only 8 kilos heavy, there has to be some kind of absurd recoil absorption in there to keep the shooter from exploding. Reloads are listed at 80 grams, but the projectiles are ~45 grams each, so I take that as Zeuses being loaded one round at a time or something.

>>97141838
The Hecate II is a 14kg rifle that fires .50 BMG and has a fuck-you big muzzle break and a tripod, and Gun Jesus says it has less recoil than some .308s.

https://youtu.be/v_vfXcvWkps

So maybe with some good compensation and a bipolar the Zeus could actually be fired.

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>>97141855
>bipolar

Lol, fucking autocorrect. Teach me to phonepost in bed.

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>>97141560
I dunno, it's weird

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>>97141958
Even the official paint schemes on Camospecs are quite inconsistent with it, as is some of the art. Technically painting the outside of the right arm and leg blue would probably be more correct, but often the white stripe is painted thick enough that it either covers the entire right 1/3rd of the mech or only the panels on the right limbs that are raised up are blue.

>>97141597
>past the tourist stage
Um, anon, he is quoting the sourcebooks. The Lyran field manual. Which is more canon than the artistic depictions. You probably shouldn't talk about being a tourist if you don't know that sourcebook descriptions trump artwork.

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>>97142033
He's quoting camo specs and not page 74 of the Lyran Field Manual. Which you'd know if you weren't as much of a tourist as he is

What's the difference between the field manual, force manual and combat manual?

>>97142069
One's about combat, one's about force, one's about fields.

>>97134458
it's a shame all the newer TROs moved away from the 80s

>>97141665
If Battletech put less emphasis on mechs and more on Inner Sphere nobility politicking and court etiquette, it would appeal more to women and less to men and MtF transsexuals

>>97142242
>it's a shame all the newer TROs moved away from the 80s
You mean the opposite of that, of course. 80s aesthetic is incredibly ugly and shit. Modern tactical aesthetic at least makes sense.

>>97142267
But I don't WANT Battletech to women OR to MTF transsexuals. I dont want any of those in my game.

>>97142267
>it would appeal more to women and less to men and MtF transsexuals
Take your (you) lonely anon.
We are men here. Why would we want something to be less appealing to us. Notice there's no question mark because the statement is rhetorical. No answer is required. No (You) is expected.

>>97142267
Gundam works just fine for the girls, but BT clearly isn't gay enough for the ladies.

>>97142312
Note that gundam blew up with women not by nobility politicking and court etiquette, but by making some sexy guys the villains and then simply allowing them to strap on yaoi goggles and believing they must be boning each other.

I just noticed that in most of the art the dragon has 1 hand actuator. The record sheets seem to disagree strangely enough. It's not like there isn't space on the arms..

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I saw that a little while ago a bunch of you were saying that the Warhammer was the best heavy mech. I take umbrage with that claim.

>>97142267
>Inner Sphere nobility politicking
Does anyone actually enjoy the thought of being some asslicking Davion nobleman with a hereditary battlemech and peasants to oppress

>>97142312
Not making VSD and Kai Allard Liao gay was a huge missed opportunity.

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>>97142285
Modern tactical aesthetic looks like shit and evokes one of the most boring, samey, lame periods of warfare humanity has yet seen.
Military technology and aesthetic has been nothing but the gayest shit for 20 years and I'm fucking sick of it. The 90's were the last time anything looked halfway decent or interesting.
>Modern tactical aesthetic at least makes sense.
Modern tactical aesthetic doesn't make any sense for giant robot knights and major countries engaging in total war.

>>97142464
Listen. We don't need self-sufficiency on the battlefield and it's perfectly okay for soldiers to exist as adherents to a magical cargo cult depending on the mystic skygods of farfaraway to supply them with the basic elements required for them to go about doing anything. And the proper response to hearing a gunshot in the distance is to scream sniper and unload your entire firebase's ammo supply in that general direction.

>>97142482
>And the proper response to hearing a gunshot in the distance is to scream sniper and unload your entire firebase's ammo supply in that general direction.
OFFICER DOWN OFFICER DOWN

>>97142349
And how many hands does a Crab have?

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>>97142464
Disregard practicality, embrace the super soldier.

>>97142389
If you're in the mech you're participating in peasant oppression. Might as well be the one on top.

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>>97142364
You're both wrong

>>97142773
>super anything with a Famas
The only time you can apply the label "super" to a Famas is to call it a super shitty gun. Like basically everything the French have ever made.

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>>97143254
I propose that this is what the Federate-Barret should've looked like.

>>97141772
>Zeus rifle
>Taurian militia standard
Pussies. The Zeus is suitable for small children on Lyran worlds.

>>97141073
>Tai-Sho didnt achieve much

Standard Tai-Sho experience. Ive seen it used once in person and Ive thrown it into OpFor in megamek a couple times and it just kinda walks around and then dies.

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>>97141132
Post-Clan Invasion all Drac designs are for C3 Networks or Aura Farming. The Rokurokubi falls into the latter, you flex on Davion subhumans with your noble samurai heritage while something actually capable like a No-Dachi caves their cockpit in.

>>97143681
Where would you put a Phoenix Hawk L?

>>97141700
You should use this opportunity to make a frankenmech for your pirate king.

>>97142364
Being rare AF is a big negative. The Warhammer performs great and can show up in any force and not trigger the RAT autists

>>97143690
Aura Farming. The TSEMP forces a shut down and you waggle that stupid MML arm stub at them with contempt.

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>>97140755
Play the villain to the hilt. Need to escape persuers in a city? Set the local orphanage on fire. Looks like you're losing? Retreat and swear terrrrrrrible vengeance. Plus, the Cappies continue to hire tons of mercs, so you have a lot of options.

>>97143681
I don't know what 'aura farming' means, but there's a bunch of quite good post CI drac mechs.

>>97140755
If youre too big a pussy to lean into the villainy like a Drac or Cappie you should just join the troons that flock to Canopus

The CapCon was more interesting before Sun Tzu and the Xin Sheng nonsense.

>>97144007
I don't think anyone would disagree with you.

>>97143946
It's a nice way to describe most of their roster being made up of gimps and things deliberately designed in the wrong way.

Like their Dark Age premium 100 ton assault Omnimech that doesn't even have a dual gauss config.

>>97143958
Having the Dracs and Capellans as bad guys and the FedSuns/Lyrans/FWL as good is nothing but pure Yellow Peril lacism and Eurocentrism

>>97144232
This is why nobody likes you.

>lacism
ironic

>>97144232
Asians are authoritarian? That's just historically accurate.

>>97144875
Everyone is authoritarian, they just express it in different ways, being more or less overt.

>>97144921
And Chancellor Ping Pong Liao expresses it by cursing out Flash Gordan after he brought an entire RTC on a deep raid to pants him in front of all the peasants.

>>97144232
Every successor state were enthusiastic belligerents of the succession wars, deliberately targeting civilian centers, each directly and indirectly killing billions of noncombatants.

>>97144232
Ywnbaw

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>>97140826
I used a painstaking amount of painters tape...

>>97141109
*Redline Intensifies*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_4_dIezjeU

>>97144241
Not as much as you are to your parents, pig.

>>97145378
You want to try that again?

>>97145378
ESL moment.

Is it possible for a critical strike to destroy the hand of a Battlemech but still have the arm useable? If a foot is destroyed but the leg remains intact, can the mech still walk?

>>97145427
The hand is completely unnecessary to the arm's function and a crit foot just gives penalties to PSRs.

>>97145453
To that extent, can you partially damage a weapon to reduce its function? A critical hit to a LRM 5 rack that takes out 2 of the tubes, leaving 3 to be usable?

>>97145427
Hands only matter for punching and holding things, and all the leg joints are designed to lock up so they're less like dead weight and more like peg legs.

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dont let this happen to you

>>97145499
Not without house rules. There is some precedent for different critical slots representing different parts of an item (I think the top/first slot specifically on a couple things results in a different effect when crit), but under the normal rules, weapons are trashed as soon as any crit slot is hit. You could say that the top slot or top couple of slots are just the tubes and a middle slot is the feed line and the bottom slots are all the structural bits around it that let it aim or program missiles, but that's on you to houserule.

What's a good bug chaser mech?

>>97145567
Something canopian, probably.

>>97145567
> bug chaser
Do we really need to call it that?

>>97145635

Well, post-Helm 7-11-7 medium mechs show up at a given point and suddenly all the damn things become deathtraps, but before that a Jenner with optimism is still taking its chances.

>>97145531
This' why you practice the MechWarrior Chael Sonnen's strategy of not letting them get close.

>>97145567
Assassin-30 model. ER M. Laser and a LBX5 is nothing to sneeze at.

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>>97145499
This is my good deed of the day.

>>97145965
> actually has the printed version
Must feel nice, I hate always looking at PDFs

>>97146096
print the pdf, duh

Does anyone have limited edition Universe book? Heard it has the Overlord dropship inside-look. Can anyone post the pics?

>>97145965
You have done good for me anon, thank you.

>>97143731
Well, whatever I do with it, I'm going to name it Thin Lizzy, which seems completely on brand for a pirate in a giant shit box mech and for the setting.

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>>97145499
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>>97146373
Oh right, you'll need these tables too.

>>97143946
It means the priority was on aesthetics and not performance for a bunch of their designs, which is true.

What sort of out-of-mech skills and abilities would your merc lance members have?

I read some of the beginner guides and have played a few matches.

I feel like objectives are missing still though but haven't found much guideline on implementing them?

>>97146788
You are strongly encouraged to collaborate with your opponent to make up your own narratively coherent objectives.

>>97145567
The Assassin for all its negative press is actually a very good bug hunter. The Phoenix Hawk is another.

>>97146782
I think Travller skills list is a good place to start.

>>97146782
Here's a link of the skills. Obviously, you'll need to do some homebrew.
https://forum.mongoosepublishing.com/threads/quick-reference-chart-forskills.125551/

Is the Black Marauder in Gothic?

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What have you guys been working on this week?

I added some lampposts to my mini bases. I need to finish painting up the rubble and the infantry need their camo finished too, but they're coming together nicely.

>>97143731
>the RAT autists
You mean "the people who actually care about the setting", I assume?

>>97147099
I assembled a Komodo and resumed painting a Thug that has been sitting around half done for almost a year.

>>97146841
How is someone supposed to do that? The opponent has a vested interest in ensuring your objectives are impossible, and you have an interest in ensuring that your opponent loses. Neither player can be trusted to act honestly in a scenario where they benefit from the other person's loss. Just talking to your opponent sounds great, but it's not a practical solution.

>>97147135
Step one is to not be a fucking retard.

Step two is to organize scenarios to be fair and interesting because your interest is in playing the game and being able to play the game again. The best way to do this is to keep the balance on scenarios broadly if not strictly even so there are interesting opportunities in play and a chance of victory no matter which side you are playing on.

Ask yourself the important questions "were I my opponent, would I play with me in this scenario? would I play this scenario with me again, win or lose? would I play on the opposite side and have fun?" And once you've started asking yourself these questions, you'll find this is a lot fucking easier than you imagine.

>>97146841
I feel like this is really hard to do without any guideline with opponents I'm don't know amazingly and don't play with regularly.

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>>97147135
Have you considered not playing with maladjusted psychopaths? And perhaps not being one yourself if that's a problem you share?

>>97147135
You just got filtered hard.

>>97145531
Interestingly enough this happened in my last game. Had an Urbmanmech RL60 pop out of an underground lift right next to my IS Standard BA. One swarm attack later, rolled boxcars and 12 damage to the head and the boys cut the fucking pilot out of her cockpit and threw her down the level 12 pit she just came out of.

>>97147099
Besides my Blakist Chick? I got some clippers from work and snipped off the Metal Mongoose's parts. Gonna wash it and sand a few pieces with chunks, then paint it.

>>97147099
I finished painting two mostly done lances I've been procrastinating on and assembled a Hatamoto-Suna and am working on a Sirocco.

>>97147135
>Neither player can be trusted to act honestly in a scenario where they benefit from the other person's loss.
You don't benefit from the other person's loss though. You gain nothing from being a WAACfag and lose the opportunity to play more games.

>>97147359
Based. This is how all urbanmechs should be treated.

>>97147135
The best players can make a story that's awesome for both. Sometimes it's good to lose, because you can control how to lose. My personal lance of poor, rag tag Lyan Militia crew all died in hilarious ways against a force of Kuritan Assaults, one of which picked up the Lyran Stinger and used it as a club to beat an Archer to death.
That was hilarious.

>>97147359
Was she screaming swears and curses on the way down while flipping the bird?

>>97147135
If you're going to act like children, then you're going to have to decide like children. Whoever didn't bring the scenario choses who's the attacker and who's the defender.

>>97147218
That's why the first time you play with someone it should be something simple like team death match. It's basically an interview. How they act and what mechs they bring will let you determine if you every play with them again. Personally, if someone shows up with 4 mechs painted the same, thematically appropriate, and talking about the backstory or whatever, I'm down to play with them again before we even roll the first dice, win or lose.

>>97147135
I wish this was bait but there are way too many people who act like this. Mostly those who came over from warhammer more recently.

>>97147135
If it's a tourny or a larger campaign, then you work with your coordinator.
If it's just a pick-up skirmish, WTF gets so competitive as to actually ruin the game? You should be going nuts and having fun. Do silly shit like 10 locust vs an Atlas.

>>97146916
Is the special series of hawks any good?

>>97147393
Probably. The controlling player was pretty mad about it, but took consolation in the fact that there was three other Urbanmechs that had come out with them (an entire lance popped out in the middle of the allied formation) that opened up a can of collective hate on my allies around them. The Stalker took the brunt of 2 AC10's and a MRM30 and fucking legged it because my ally is a damage-averse coward.

This is after my Black Knight and Flashman ate shit after facing down a LBX10 Annihilator, Goliath and Lancelot trying to protect one of the mission critical buildings. I got abandoned on one side of the battlefield while my allies fucked around for three turns achieving absolutely fucking nothing. Yeah, I'm a little bit mad about it.

>>97146841
Historical Chad

>>97147135
comp virgin.

>>97146916
>The Phoenix Hawk is another.
It's my goto. It's been my best performer in that role.

>>97147448
>Is the special series of hawks any good?
IMO, yes. Though they don't stand out to their contemporaries like the original does in the Succession Wars era.

>>97147135
I hope this is bait.

>>97147237
that locust looks great

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>>97147380
Get URB'D!!!

>>97147105
You can care about the setting while not shrieking when a force isnt composed of 9 bugs and the dougram trio

>>97143486
It'd be a full sized autocannon 2 for a davion man

>>97147237
Not bad. Is that Locust supposed to be in Knights of the Inner Sphere colors?

>>97147701
I've been picking colours at random based on what I like.
I imagine each of them as independent mercenaries.
I mainly play with people that don't own borrowing my minis to form a lance so didn't want to make unified force schemes.

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>>97147099
Tanks.

>>97147622
But that's exactly what a Canopian player SHOULD be playing with.

>>97147701
Looks like reverse KotIS to me, yellow on silver rather than gold on white.

>>97147571
It's not, but I don't want to follow up on it since you're all being assholes about it. You can't trust the person who wants to win (meaning you lose) to have input into whether or not you win. This is like, basic stuff. That's why games are supposed to have a bunch of scenarios already written so you can pick from them, to prevent this exact issue. And yeah, 40k does it better than Battletech, which is no surprise given that that it's an older game and a more experienced design staff. But that doesn't mean Battletech shouldn't do just that.

>>97147774
>40k
>older than battletech
That would be good bait, but you spoiled it by actually saying it's not bait. You're supposed to not draw attention to the possibility and just gloss over that accusation.

Anyway, Battletech barely ever does comp scenarios because it presents itself as a historical, not a competitive game. In official tournaments you don't even get to bring your own list or models, you use what the scenario makes you use with the models the organizers brought or you don't play.

>>97147797
>not a competitive game
Alpha Strike says what?

>>97147810
"Goo goo, ga ga"
Also, it's a different game.

>>97147797
All games are competitive. That's why there's a winner and a loser. Only a loser tries to claim that games aren't competitive.

>>97147774
>it's an older game
The first edition of 40k was Rogue Trader in 1987.
Battletech was first called Battledroids and was released in 1984 and renamed in 1985.

>>97147840
Son, you just got hooked.

>>97147840
Wait, are you sure? My GM says that Battletech came out in 2002 or so as a collectible game, and it moved to the hex grid in 2007 when they released the total warfare rulebook for it.

>>97147897
Your GM is a silly baby. Battletech using the hex grid is from the mid-80s. They tried to replace it a couple of times and we keep telling them to fuck off so they go back to supporting the original game.

>>97147571
It is. The guy doesn't know what scenarios are? C'mon, huh.

>>97147830
Life is competitive, games are not. Only a loser in life would claim otherwise.

I'm doing an Operation Klondike game. What's a Clan star I should use?
I'm thinking a bunch of royal mechs:
Highlander 732b
Hoplite 4Bb
Crab 27b
Mongoose 66b
Ostroc 2Cb

>>97147947
What would you do for an Operation Klondike bar?

>>97147774
Get filtered 40kfag.

Any love for the Galleon,or is the Scorpion a better investment?

>>97148264
Scorpion is better. You're a goddamn retard. How is that even a question? Scorpion has triple the armor, and an SRM6 and a PPC beats a ML/2xSL payload 8 days out of 7.

>>97148324
The vee, not quad

>>97148324
bro the scorp has an ac5 and a machine gun no variant of it even has a ppc, what tf are you talking about

>>97148264
It depends on what you're planning on using them for. Do you need something to fill out a lance with some extra BV? If so, how's your lance set up?
On the flipside, are you just looking for annoying little mooks for your players to stomp in a scenario game?

>>97148409
Mooks, but the Scorpion might seem slightly more generic as a mook

>>97148416
Scorpion is definitely more generic, but it's a classic for a reason.
The Galleon can be more annoying however slipping and sliding around at speed. Dealing with that can be a bit of an extra headache, but it's funny when they crash into terrain level changes so it levels out.

>>97148427
Oh shit, the Galleon has a claymore version too

>>97148377
>not knowing best quad
Tourist

>>97148473
>not know what the original question was about
Retard, and the scorpion is a shit medium

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