>>97138810
Promos for Riftbound Skirmish are fucking awful.

>>97138810
>TQ
really depends on the game. The more interactive, the more I enjoy building specific strategies Also, some games just give you premade decks every set *cough cough* one piece.

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>>97138602
>>97138749
it was an MP game. i'd just killed the 3rd player and was going for the last victim.

>>97138810
Way less brewing now that I'm gainfully employed and getting back into card games. Part of me misses the days of working at a game store and trying to sweat Netrunner.

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https://youtu.be/Um3lP8UO-30?t=2198

Well, Flesh and Blood is not going to get better confirmed. The developers are adamant; there being so few viable heroes for a whole year is a feature not a bug. You people who are crying for the "underclass" not being viable need to get over it. Bryan and James don't care that your stupid class will never be viable. So many "choices" to select from, like Aggro, Aggro and Boardstate; play what wins! No changes necessary, this stagnant meta is so fire!!

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>>97139591
I cannot believe I played this game long enough to see it become the villain. They're completely proud of the fact every major tournament in the last half year has been bogged by one hero that dropped in June and has since never been dethroned.

>>97139591
Hardly a surprise. They've been whale hunting for years now, and it's only gotten worse/more targeted.

>>97139591
>banned and restrictions are tools used to REFRESH FORMATS and totally not to BALANCE THE GAME

Fab is so fucking dead, holy shit.

Im surprised more people didnt jump ship when during the whole cheating at nats thing was full speed ahead and James handwashed it during that little town hall. How did people not clue in that they were going to prioritize their whales no matter what
>wellll you know, we cant do anything about brodie cheating guys
>anyway we are changing the rules to ban anyone we want without needing a reason
>to ban brodie? lol what? no to ban anyone who gives us shit about it

>>97139998
>Im surprised more people didnt jump ship
sunk cost is strong

>>97139998
What?

>>97140005
In fairness REALLY sunk considering how much people were having to pay to be able to not just get folded, cracked, and washed at casuals in their stores

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I was going to wait for this shit to drop before deciding if I am leaving the game, but the LSS lead devs are making this absolutely easy to decide right this minute. If you are so happy that CC is a solved format and underclasses are meant to be oppressed pieces of shit, then I cannot condone playing this trash-heap of wasted potential any longer.

>>97131454
>FaB complaining already in the thread
OK, that makes me slightly more comfortable with what I was going to do.

I heard that Flesh and Blood was battle-heavy which, in my mind, meant that played units had some combination of attack, defense, and health and had some built-in mechanics to keep them up on the field or heavy support in the types of spells/whatever to keep them up and some reason to do so (like contesting for objectives.) That's more of a TTRPG and I can't think of a cardgame quite like it (Ironically, Battle Spirits seems closer to this than Flesh and Blood.)

What I did get was sort of the opposite of a "board-building game", it's sort of a death spiral game. I knew it was low fantasy but I didn't expect it to be low-fantasy (I thought you'd just be controlling relatively low-magic knights or gladiators or whatever- instead, the game is basically two niggas fighting.)

That kind of turned me off, but I wasn't if that was where all of my distaste was coming from.

I don't think I like the format. You start out with a lot of cards and the entire game is a war of attrition of who can drain the others resources faster or more effectively.

I like how draw-heavy the game is and how everything has attack/defense. But I realize that the game wouldn't function without these choices so it's hard to call them "good design." I also realized that the format of the game seemed very vulnerable to power-creep and in a way that's not really fun or interesting. It SEEMS to me that the eventual state for a game like this is just a deck that can use the universal mechanics very well (attacking or defending) will win out and combo/control/whatever goes out the window. When watching that game, I tried to think of possible metas and I was met with visions of horror. It seems to me that games that try to force decisions/autonomy/counter-play into every place possible are ultimately more thoroughly optimized in a meta so the choice is meaningless.

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>>97140349
Choices and an abundance of universal mechanics seem like things that kill a meta.

Playing suboptimally? IDK. Deck structure seems to be pretty rigid and I don't think the gamestates are as dynamic as the developers would hope for, partially because of the universal nature of how cards work.

It seems like games would run too long, without much variance, without much back-and-forth with pretty low thematics (which might not matter to you but I'd rather be placing a ranger than shooting an arrow.) It just doesn't seem like fun and I think the way TCGs' inevitable design problems would make it even less fun.

FaBfags, is my intuition about the meta and powercreep correct?

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Anyone else here a little bit leery about how parasitic some of the new Ashes cards are? Especially the Artifice die type itself-it literally does nothing, and only enables other cards to do things. With every other magic type you could theoretically include a single die in your set just for its effect, but not with these Bees for some odd reason.

>>97140349
Uncomfortable truth time. This is going to trigger the fuck out of fab players but it has to be said. Battlecon achieves what fab wants to be and does it: better, more elegantly, more fun, more balanced, more depth, more pure. Fab just fails at doing what it aims to do and is genuinely unfun and poorly designed for anyone that isnt excited at the thought of winning by angleshooting or mathing victories

>>97140408
>mathing victories
Yeah, that's something I failed to mention explicitly is that the whole attack/defend thing just becomes a numbers game which is part of why I can see a completely atrocious and barren meta being born from the fundamental mechanics.

Redpill me on Battlecon. I'm here. I'm here for the alternative card games.

>>97139591
Wasn't the whole appeal of FaB that it was similar to an RPG where you could pick and play the class you wanted to and just only play that? WTF happened

I feel like this current sentiment of just having top meta contenders intentionally happened around mistveil and the game has never seemed appealing again outside of SAGE

>>97140391
>Anyone else here a little bit leery about how parasitic some of the new Ashes cards are?
I am leery of artifice, yeah. it will take a few sets to see if that design choice is ok or actually bites them in the ass. it took Time a long ass while to mature mechanically too so we'll see.

Astral is bad ass though, I fucking love that stupid birdman deck. it's like the anti nature mechanic.

>>97140418
Battlecon isnt really under the acg umbrella so I wont other than to say anyone who wanted fab for what they pitched and was disappointed will enjoy it.

>>97140464
Mistveil was when they lost control of the game. I stepped away from keeping up with news as frequently because it was so depressing the way the game was completely warped. The reality is it crumbled under the design choices when people realizdd you could just throw like ten attacks at someone every turn and the 1 attack per turn dude who needs a setup turn was cooked. Then it took like two years to unfuck it up and they still failed. Not anticipating gowide ruining the game was hilariously embarassing. Like shit, Its genuinely fun to reflect on how bad the game turned out and is still failing to do its mission. Im enthralled

>>97140349
IDK why the fuck you are pretending to be some sort of armchair game designer without ever having even played the game. As a FUCKFABBER FaB is a very fun game system when the devs aren't trying to nickel and dime normal players and hunt whales. The setting also isn't low fantasy

>>97140408
Eh. They're pretty different games, Battlecon having the spatial + simultaneous turns aspects completely changes the feel of the game. I'm not sure where the constant fighting game comparisons come from with FaB as it isn't really similar to a fighting game at all outside of it having matchups (Which every competitive strategy game has). FaB is much closer to an auctioning game like Blue Moon

>>97140349
If you don't mind sports based games someone recommended a soccer themed one the other day which I noticed played a bit like FaB except it doesn't have the "defending makes you spend cards which makes you attack weaker letting your opponent defend better and subsequently attack better" part of the game I don't like. Rulebook here:
https://playhth.com/pages/rules-of-the-game

>>97140520
>IDK why the fuck you are pretending to be some sort of armchair game designer without ever having even played the game.
That's OK too. It's just the impression that I got.

If you could be more specific on why what I said isn't true, that'd be nice.
>The setting also isn't low fantasy
Yeah, it was a preconception. It is still low-fantasy (I don't know how else to word this) as a card game because it's two dudes fighting and not SUMMONERS like most other card games.

>>97140520
>"not sure where the fighting game comes from"
FAB MARKETED IT AS SUCH THEMSELVES FOR YEARS

>>97140504
>Not anticipating gowide ruining
The issue are boardstate heroes, gowide still can get fucked over by fridges and disruption but guess who can't play the game when heroes like enigma or gravy are in the game.

Going to play Gundam tomorrow, a Sorcery Draft on Wednesday, another Gundam event on Thursday and a Newtype Challenge on Sunday. Crazy amounts of support for everything here.

>>97140575
Since when, I don't remember this

>>97140539
Your observation that the game has you start out as strong and get weaker as you play (Generally) is true but the game having so much draw doesn't really make it a war of attrition, it's much more about deciding what attacks you have to let through or not based on your matchup knowledge.

FaB is kind of like if someone made a card game that was almost exclusively designed around counter-spelling/handtrapping. Most cards in the game can "counter" other cards so the gameplay is in deciding what to react to and with what without putting yourself in the position that later on you won't lose because of it.

If you don't like that then you do you but none of this makes it a bad or boring game, the reason it has a core fanbase is because it's genuinely fun. It's fun to have a card game that has so many turn to turn decisions which most games simply don't have due to fear of complexity or because the game has snowballing ramp effects (like most magic likes)

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Fab shitting the bed came at the perfect time while I'm newly getting into Sorcery. Gothic is a hell of a fucking set, and the cards have actual value to them because they're true works of art. Here's a glass card. Translucent and everything.

>plays yugioh, a game where you start at full power and wind down as the game progresses
>gives armchair design commentary about how FaB is bad because you start full and wind down over a game
So this whole exchange was a setup for fuckposting. Cool. Excellent thread culture.

>>97140373
>>97140349
>Deck structure seems pretty rigid
Depends, most heroes (archetypes) have a core set of cards, something like 50-66% of the deck. The rest are generally tech or playstyle-based choices.

>gamestates are as dynamic as the developers would hope for
Again you'll have to clarify but I'll guess what I assume you mean. Tempo is very much a big thing in this game, and tempo tends to trade back and forth quite a bit, especially at higher levels. Most cards have quite a few uses depending on when you draw it, what you draw it with, and some other things that you'll need to factor in at high levels.

>run too long
Yeah that's intended, it's Bo1

>without much variance
Yeah that's also intended, skill expression does matter a lot here

>without much back-and-forth
Objectively untrue, maybe you can argue some of the aggro mirrors are just dumping your hand and seeing who has to cede tempo first, but that's pretty far from the case all the time and that's kinda just how aggro mirrors work.

>very vulnerable to power-creep
I think they've generally been pretty good at making sure the game doesn't degenerate too much, this current meta is, despite its staleness which is the main criticism right now, relatively okay power-level wise and is reasonably wide at the highest levels. There's a bit of annoyance at the current meta since it hasn't been shaken up in the last 5 months, but in the last few events there's been some small moves like Marionette moving from mostly written off to basically Tier 1.5, Oscilio being ever-present in Top 8s also shifting him to a roughly Tier 1.5 position, Gravy and Verdance mostly falling from popularity despite their relative position in the meta being unchanged due to the other two decks' increase in prominence, etc.


>>97139591
>No changes necessary, this stagnant meta is so fire!!
Pretty sure the whole gist of their statement is that you should expect bans because they want to shake it up for RTN season.

>>97140684
I pulled the trigger on a box of Gothic. I am doing it just for the art and the pulls. I am not looking at any spoilers until it arrives. Super hyped. First time I cared about a tcg product in almost a decade.

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>>97141135
Oops forgot proof

>>97141116
I play Yu-Gi-Oh! like a shitter back in 2008 (nothing anywhere approaching the meta which is Solitaire). My word isn't word of God, I said as much before that's just my gut feeling from watching one game. I'm trying to be as polite as possible here. There's no need to be upset.
>>97141118
>Most cards have quite a few uses depending on when you draw it, what you draw it with, and some other things that you'll need to factor in at high levels.
From what I saw, it really didn't seem that way; either you dumped them for damage or defense. Is it archetype specific? Do you have a match-up video you'd like to share?
>Yeah that's also intended, skill expression does matter a lot here
I'm confused by this. Do you think match-up variability and skill expression are mutually exclusive.
>but that's pretty far from the case all the time and that's kinda just how aggro mirrors work.
I would argue that FaB's framework should be prime for making this kind of thing more meaningfully interactive but I wouldn't personally know how it would do such a thing so whatever.

General question but what do you think are some of the best designed heroes/archetypes or best formats (series of heroes/archetypes)?

I didn't get the impression the game was terrible, just that it might have some problems and those are mostly balancing (meta) related. People seem to have mixed feelings on even that here so I'll hold my tongue before I make any more judgements.

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Look what I found. Too bad it's virtually unplayable.

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>>97136214
>>97140031
you motherfuckers are NOT tapped in.

>>97141118
They said an idea fab meta is one that looks exactly like the one we have now. So they do a BNR to "refresh the format" but it will all funnel into the same desired outcome they have explicitly stated that they want.

>>97141219
This card isn't good or interesting btw.

>>97141166
I was the one who recommended the video in the last thread, so I can add a bit. That matchup is specifically against two aggro-midrange decks, decks that have a decent amount of armor and defensive capabilities but a little harder of a time "converting" four cards on offense all the time compared to aggro decks. All of the cards they used to block with have some other use as attacks, or can be pitched if they cannot utilize their full hand. You have one action point per turn, and generally players will plan out their turns while on their opponents turn, blocking relevant effects or efficiently preventing damage so that you don't "waste" your card velocity by ending up with one extra card in hand at the end of the turn that you can't utilize via arsenal or on offense. There are some modes of each card that are suboptimal for sure (using a red card to pitch is generally very inefficient), but even the most polarized cards usually end up 80/15/5 or 80/0/20 that you can track via online simulator data on a per-deck basis.

As for a different matchup with a lot of back and forth, I'd recommend watching PT LA Finals, https://youtu.be/iYxoe8rlIx8?t=24933, which features a setup/snowball deck (Left, Dromai) vs. a midrange deck (Right, Dorinthea). The commentary here will assume you are familiar with the game though so you might not understand what's happening.


>Do you think match-up variability and skill expression are mutually exclusive.
Nah, I thought you were referring to "variance" in the sense of luck being a major factor in the outcome of a match. There's some pretty polarizing matchups though and matchups between decks are quite different even within general archetypes. In the current meta, Dash I/O, Oscilio, Cindra, and Marionette all fall under the "aggro" category in some form but have play patterns that are quite different from both sides of the table.

Has Gundam Card Game made use of the Earth/Space keywords yet?

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>>97141226
what other unit has REPAIR 3 off rip and gives you a FREE REST to any FRIENDLY REPAIR UNIT on a swing via pair effect? you pair this with its link pilot that GIVES ANY OF YOUR UNITS repair 2 for the turn AND gets you a draw if the link unit has a jupitris trait. on top of it being a +2/+2 statstick, it's a 7/7 unit with repair 3 that gets you a free rest via a friendly repair unit swing. this is unicorn lr/banagher on steroids. like I said, YOU ARE NOT TAPPED IN.

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>we don't want balance, we want the 1% to lord over the underclass
Legend story studios just committed seppuku.

>>97141166
>There's no need to be upset.
There's a few dedicated schizos here that just rage bait all day, don't worry about an oddly disproportionate reaction to certain posts.

>>97141254
>Whoah what if I like always have my link and I'm not dead on turn 7 to aggro and I have other units on my board to trade with and my opponent isn't attacking me so their stuff is all untapped and they have-

>>97141263
You know that he meant he's happy to see a wide tier 2 underneath the top 3 rock/paper/scissors meta.
You don't have to agree or like FaB at all, but can you at least refrain from hysterical lying?

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>>97141221
I mean, like I said, I think this meta is pretty healthy, people are just tired of the top decks being the same decks since mid-SEA. If it shakes up and there's three different decks in a triangle on top, I think that's fine. Triangle metas have generally been pretty good, with the last major one being post-PTLA, pre-armory deck HVY where you had a similar thing with Kayo/Victor/Kassai with pretty much the same pie chart as the one in the image.

>>97141166
Forgot to answer your other questions due to the character limit. Not sure what your criteria for "Best" is, but I assume it's a mix of "fun to play/play against", "well-balanced", and "good variety of playstyles". Every best deck has had haters so some other posters may object to this, but I think:

-Iyslander (Pre-Worlds 2022)
-Dromai (EVO-HVY)
-Dash (CRU)
-Aurora (Pre-Armory Deck)

All had interesting matchups during the periods mentioned, had a few different builds of varying meaningfulness, have very rabid fans, and were skill-testing in a variety of matchups. Can expand on this, but if you're unfamiliar with the game explaining everything would take a few pages, so if you wanna continue this specific line of thought I can go in more later. In terms of good formats, there are quite a few good ones, but again, character count and the words mean even less to the uninitiated.

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>>97141277
>here's a really cool top-end unit coming in the next set
>WAAAAH IT'S NOT EVEN WORTH IT BECAUSE YOU'LL GET BUTTFUCKED BY AGGRO ANYWAY
it's almost like there's already another color that pairs really well with blue (the best color for draw) which also happens to have the best blockers, bouncers, and ap reducers in the game. for the life of me, i can't figure what that color is but hey here's another neat card that definitely doesn't synergize with the top-end unit shown.

>>97141327
Damn bro white blue must be slinging it in tournaments then oh wait. Well I'm sure it'll do better once you add even more giant level 6/7 do nothing fat fucks.

>>97141283
Who's lying here? Certainly not James White that said there's so many choices to play as in their idealized meta. There's truly not that many viable decks in the game, tournament data has been slanted like this for nearly all of 2025.

>>97141314
>Can expand on this
No need. I can already tell from having watched a youtube video the game is poorly designed.
My game design expertise from the middle school playground has lead me to the obvious truth you FABGOTS are desperate to deny!

>>97141336
lmao you don't even play the game. bw control was THE deck in the prerelease format, and now in gd03, it's got disgusting support via these cards. it's ok to admit you shit on a game you don't play, we're on a somai fishing forum after all.

>>97141314
>i think the meta is healthy
>flick knives, leaves, chum, mantle, felling
Yeah no, you're deadass wrong there.

>>97141368
>prerelease format
Set 1 was all wing and aggro. But enjoy playing your level 7 brick bro. It'll be super strong, just like Epyon. Definitely won't be just as useless as he was.

>>97141400
hate to break it to you dude but most of the gd01 format revolved around bw control, gw wing, oyw rush, and rb newtypes. towards the tail-end of it, it was centered around gw wing and oyw rush after some strategies accounted for the other matchups and over time beat them. also how is the o a brick? we're talking about a game where sinanju is back in the meta simply because it gets 2 damage on the board off of a base/shield break. how is a 5/5 unit with repair 3 not a good card? epyon isn't even comparable either since its link effect is OPT where as the o's pair effect isn't. you either don't play the game or you're retarded. choose one.

>>97141424
>also how is the o a brick?
Level 7 who does nothing when he hits the board. At least Sinanju can take out small units on his own while pressuring life. Your guy needs to link and then trade while Sinanju can do the same without taking damage and breaking shields. He's also cheaper. And doesn't need friends out to trigger his own ability.

Your fat fuck works when you have multiple units out that can trade with your opponent's units, but your opponent's units are all untapped (for some reason). It doesn't even work off his own attack. 6 energy for scuffed Amuro that needs a board.

>>97141443
again it is a 5/5 UNIT WITH REPAIR 3. what do you think repair does? it's nearest comp isn't sinanju nor epyon but unicorn lr. they're the same lvl and cost but the o has way more survivability and utility. it gets advantage without having to sacrifice itself to do that. not to mention its pair effect isn't OPT, meaning you can rest as many units as you want with how many repair units you have on your field to depending on its lvl.

>>97141461
>but unicorn lr
Which is a bad card, but at least you can play it for cheap and it has a better pilot. You can't play this for cheap.
>pair effect isn't OPT, meaning you can rest as many units as you want with how many repair units you have on your field
I'm not sure what game you're playing where you're just lining up expensive units like this. No deck does this now and your brick isn't enough of a payoff to try. You're looking at an optimal situation which doesn't ever really occur while playing. There are games where you're not going to have much of a board, in which case its shit. There are games where you're on the back foot and need low cost cards, in which case it's shit. There are games where you'll draw a bunch of them and brick, because it's a huge brick. Wing can afford to play these huge units because when Zero hits it does something. Big red units do tons of pings on their own so when they hit they do something on their own. Your guy is a brick because if you play him naked he's garbage, if you play and link him he still needs allies out to do anything but trade once for 6 energy.

>>97141484
>Which is a bad card, but at least you can play it for cheap and it has a better pilot. You can't play this for cheap.
it's not a terribly bad card. it's great into bw control but it's slow and needs 2 other cards to get the most out of it.
>I'm not sure what game you're playing where you're just lining up expensive units like this.
so guncannon rare or waverider mode doesn't exist? what lvl are they? it can't be the same level as lfrith and rick dias right? neither of the gundam lrs exist right? there's already a good amount of low-to-mid end repair units to build off of that take advantage of the o's pair effect (and i'm sure that there will be more going into gd03). you don't even need to go fully into the repair gimmick to make it work (which i'm sure at this point you don't know what it does). just play white with a good amount of blockers and it's easily a great control strategy.
>There are games where you'll draw a bunch of them and brick, because it's a huge brick.
this is blue we're talking about. one of the many things it does well is draw. with a control strategy that wants to drag out the game for as long as possible, it will win the grind game via it's many draw engines.
>Your guy is a brick because if you play him naked he's garbage, if you play and link him he still needs allies out to do anything but trade once for 6 energy.
define repair. define pair. define link.

>>97141227
Will watch.
>>97141314
>-Iyslander (Pre-Worlds 2022)
>-Dromai (EVO-HVY)
>-Dash (CRU)
>-Aurora (Pre-Armory Deck)
Any videos for these?
>>97141344
You can always choose to be happy, Anon.

>>97141219
>BlueX garbage
>more muh repair
yep, opposite of locked in I left the cockpit.

What is up with the fab players here always posting 1000 word essays each comment. Like jesus christ you guys slowplay your comments too???

>>97141142
That's an obscene price. Out of principle Ill be pirating it to play. I would love to buy it but I draw the line at 90 cad for boxes, paying double fair price is just spreading your cheeks and begging for it. I genuinely would love to buy in because of the art knowing no one actually stocks or plays it here , but Im not a moron. That price is moronic

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almost nothing is viable!
it's so over!
2 more weeks!

>>97142017
90 CAD would be less than cost, do you only play dead games?

>simulator faggot outs himself as too poor for sorcery
>comes back around in 10 months to whine that cards are only "5-10 dollars even for a unique"
kekypoo I think investors might be the most retarded people on earth next to LGS owners.

FaB still living rent free in the schizos head

>>97142324
I refuse to buy into inflated prices. Even 120 which is the going rate for acgs is stupid. I play games, not coom over shiny textures, so for sorcery Ill keep pirating and bringing them to play with. It cost me like 10 bucks and an hour of time to have sleeved cards that are identical in look and feel. Its their loss for their life support game. Did the same for FAB

>>97142344
Why are you talking to yourself faggot I like how everytime the subject changes you bring up finances and blacks then report any post that disagrees.

>>97142000
>yes I don't link 2 of the most inoffensive things in the game
>yes i play the game

>>97142373
*like

Is there a SRW card game worth mentioning? Call me when I can play the BIG O

>>97142351
Just say you're poor.

>97142387
Like clockwork. The best response will be when your game dies despite how hard you have been samefagging for it the last 48 hours here. But you dont care. You put CAD. Not a single place in southern ontario stocks or plays sorcery. Enjoy

>>97142379
you don't play or watch either, dude. don't speak on shit you don't know.

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>>97142409
>he can't afford to watch 90s anime
??? You have to be at least 30 to post here.

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Dude the fuckfabbie schizo is so funny he does more work to advertise and keep the thread alive than any other singular person here hahahaha he even thematically ties his post into the last set lol what's next? Book related shit posting?

>sorcery for 200 bucks nah
>cookie for 100 bucks fuck yeah
Couple months ago we talked cookie here and I'm happy to say it's been fun to play since then. The stock in my area is hard to come by, but after playing the vidya a bit I kinda feel a bit more connected to the cards and the kids love to play. Thankful as fk I didnt buy into gundam given how shit that whole situation is

>>97142446
Is it any worse than what youve been doing here for months?
Have you ever once ever directly addressed the way James endorses cheating? Never once, never ever ever, have I seen any of you dweebs here actually directly comment on the rampant cheating and mismanagement. That's why people love to shit on your stupid ass game, you make it so easy

>>97142429
>here's my shit that I got from a launch event see I totally play the game
don't speak on gundam, dude. it's embarrassing.

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>>97142495
>don't wish for anything
>don't play anything
>don't post anything
>especially not in a language I can't read
There is already an SRW card game

>>97142495
Considering bandai had to make a giant
>we're sowwwyy, you cant buy any of this, who could have predicted this!
post, when they run so many games and then had to do it AGAIN a month or two later because people were still losing their shit over how bad it is, and the latest word is that it will only MAYBE get better in march, which means chinese new year will cook their game... just lol

>>97142484
>what (YOU)'ve been doing here for months
You've got another 1000 word essay about rangers to post so go ahead and knock yourself out.

>>97142508
You wrote all that blabbering but forgot to make a coherent point. Considering Bandai had to make a giant post they WHAT? Finish the sentence.

>>97142505
then i'd suggest you'd stick to that game and not in a game you shit on and don't know about.

>>97142517
All I did was ask for The BIG O because I saw someone posted The O you dolt. Stick to card games

>>97142508
if you're bitching and complaining about allocation 2 (now going into 3) sets in, then you're either poor or never played a card game in your life.

>>97142527
He's just going to turn around and continue on about pirating the game as if anyone cares what simulator babies have to say.

>>97142512
Conflating me with someone else my dude. I was the one making fun of the essays this morning, dont steal my fucking joke (⩺_⩹)

>>97142516
A giant post. That was a complete sentence. Anyone who plays the game has seen it. It's comically long, 20 bullets about stock issues and the health of the game. Keep up sonny

>>97142523
don't worry I will. just don't speak on gundam.

>>97142527
>>97142531
Oh look its the fuckwits posting from homeroom before class starts for the day. You know you can physically print cards right? And then take them to a store? Im sorry that you pay 500 for your FAB deck that I handed a local kid 20 bucks to make for me. I'm sorry that your mum doesn't charge you rent so that you would understand why casuals not being able to afford your game will kill it

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>>97142535
>>97142542
>you can't talk about my game not even a little don't post or speak about it
>doesn't know what a proxy is
I dunno which schizo is more retarded kek FUCKDAM

Nice to know that these threads still suck.

>>97142557
It's just people misrepresenting what others say. It's the same shit every EST morning at 8 when the kids wake up. Just give in an hour or so and we can cookiepost again once the people playing the mainstream games are told to put their phones in a lockbox

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>they don't know a single cookie
>they haven't changed the OP to include cookie
>three sets in and no mention of cookie
I don't know if cookie is happening... at least my LGS has it for like 95 usd

>>97142542
>>97142550
if you played card games in any official capacity, then you'd know proxies (unless stated otherwise) are not allowed. i'm not talking about just regionals or at any bandai event, this is true for your locals. the best deck in the game right now is just over 150 usd (about half of its price at the game's release). if you want to play competitive decks but bitch and complain that they're expensive (shocker), then you're poor or too retarded to play one.
>you can't talk about my game not even a little don't post or speak about it
yeah because clearly I want to hear about the game from a guy that finds blue and repair cancer lmao.

>>97142512
>>97142532
shitposters are retarded, more news at 9.

>>97142195
Not a fan of how it looks in the long run, Gravy still has at least one year of completely shutting down low AP classes and cindra is almost leaving, unless they really gut the hero down with the next wave of bans I don't really see anything changing for bigger tournaments.

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Age of Heroes and Kingdoms is actually 66$ right now and I think I should buy just for some fun.

>>97142598
>in any official capacity
My guy, most of the games play are dead or dying. There's maybe 3 or 4 guys tops at casuals. I'll keep bringing proxies that are in nice sleeves that make it imperceptible. If you don't like it too bad? Lose a player I guess? I don't play at shitty stores that would ban me for doing it. I'm here to play, not pay 20 bucks for a piece of fucking card that bends lol. I know it makes people seethe and I don't care.
The people I play with don't have a problem with it, I don't spend hundreds of bucks on stupid shit that'll be dead in a year or two

>>97142630
It's fun, and also easy enough that you dont have to relearn it to play or worry about mental load. I truly wholeheartedly recommend it just for how dirt cheap it has been alongside the fun factor and how kid friendly it is

>>97142637
i'm talking about gundam. the game right now is the cheapest it's ever been. i'm sorry that you don't have the funds to buy a playset of an LR you don't have to play lmao.

>>97142673
All morning you've been replying offtopic shit to people are you high?

>>97142591
It's definitely undersupported in engish sadly. Bad management, fab levels

>>97142683
it's okay to admit that you got btfo'd. i won't hold it against you.

>>97142557
Blame the moderation for letting people shit the threads

>>97142512
I skimmed through this part of the thread and got excited that we would get to do another dogpile on Earthborn Rangers SAD

>>97142557
Fuck off retard, the entire point of this thread is to lightly shitfling and banter about our respective games

>>97142630
I need cookie to come out in Australia but Im starting to think not only do DevSisters not care... But they may not actually be sisters and that they're all MEN

>>97142706
Last time I was around the moderation was getting too aggressive and selectively giving people a vacation for nothing.

>>97142484
>Never once, never ever ever, have I seen any of you dweebs here actually directly comment on the rampant cheating
So you're not even coming here regularly. Way to out yourself as a casual thread secondary. I broke the news every time Majin Bae cheated, I brought up Brodie when he cheated in real time. Where were you? Never ever my ass. Fuck you.

>>97142598
>you'd know proxies (unless stated otherwise) are not allowed
on today's episode of "how to spot a tourist in acg"...

>>97142195
>50% of the pie chart is three doods
Yeah man, that's bad balancing proof right there. It's been like this for fucking years too.

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Lss had been lying to their fans for years. This recent Dev talk is a complete 180 on the outlook and curation of the game. Truthfully it feels jarring that even though the fans are vocal about the meta being stale and boring to watch, they insist that the fans are wrong. This is what GOOD Fab looks like, says Bryan. They're promising that they will not focus on anything other than balancing the limited experience and use ban tools to refresh the formats instead of holding themselves accountable for the broken mess we find the game in today. It's lunacy that it had come to this, the creators shaming their players asking for change.

I've been with the game since the beginning, they have always taken the stance that balancing the game, while delicate in nature, is their primary concern going into the future. They want this game to have rock solid foundations that they build upon for decades to come. If there's a season were a class isn't up to snuff, they will bring them right up to speed the next one. This has always been their stance until December of '25. For over half a decade they have set everyone up to believe they lovingly consider every card before introducing them into the game. That every single card matters. But in reality what over 70%of their hard efforts have been poured into is fine tuning the limited formats of every draftable set release. They agonize in particular over draft, a format that more and more is pushed to the rear in lgs armories to make way for the the premiere format of Classic Constructed, the tent pole of Flesh and Blood. So they acknowledge CC is their bread and butter, yet they endlessly toil away at a limited environment that almost no one indulges in outside of prerelease. They have failed to make limited as important to the players as it is to LSS. And what do they have to show for this? Unchecked & broken classes that have created tremendous power disparity that in order for the ship to right itself will be hit with big bans.

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>>97140391
like anon said it's basically another turtle dice. only works with the things it works with so it encourages engine building. Time did eventually get awesome so I figure wait and see.
the other deck is more direct and aggro and easier to splash in to existing decks rn. some really sick cards there, esp javelin and the skybreak captain.

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>>97143059
Don't forget they lied about Player Verses Environment, something that is "dead" and totally not a trump card they will play when the game really is dying.

Do not under any circumstances ask them about 'beat the car up.' Fucking don't do it, they'll nerf your favorite class if you do.

>>97142887
do you not go to locals wtf?

>>97142017
>obscene price
Not really. 36 packs a booster box with 15 cards each. Also unlike most other card games 90% of the cards aren’t unplayable slop filler. The set itself also has way more cards than other tcg sets that usually clock in below 300 cards.

Also you buy sorcery once a year. Not once every 1.5-3 months as with other trash cycle TCGs

>>97142405
>no place in southern Ontario stocks them
Lmao there’s multiple stores just in Toronto that stock it why claim such easily disproven lies?

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>>97142405
???

>>97143365
If your locals for acgs are purity testing the cards in your sleeves find better ones

>>97143414
>stock it
Okay. Wake me up when it isn't SEO optimizing retailers bringing one box in to make sure their catalogue is full and never restocking or keeping stock on hand

>>97143234
what? somebody fucking askING FOR PVE AGAIN?

*punches drywall*

THAT'S DOES IT! I'M NEFRING RANGERS AGAIN AND PRINTING ANOTHER KAYO VARIANT

>>97143403
Pretty terrible argument, honestly. But you already knew that when you espoused one set per year being a good thing.

>>97143563
forgot username sry

FUCKRANGERS

>>97143544
>>97143567
Kek so you’re too poor to use actual cards, which is whatever I’m not going to make fun of that. But then you turn around and claim one set a year is bad.

So you can’t tell the truth, you can do basic reasoning…I am starting to see why you might hate sorcery. Just because it’s too complex for you, doesn’t mean you have to lash out and lie. Enjoy your simpler printed out games and let us nostalgia boomers enjoy our retro art card game.

>>97143597
>you're all the same person!
Take your meds, anon. It's difficult to talk to you when you behave this way.

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>>97143544
>moving the goalposts this hard
My box is shipping from southern Ontario you lying sack of shit.

>>97143610
You’re just sad at this point amigo. Lying about a card game you don’t like but has nothing to do with you. Sitting there seething with your printed paper proxies sleeved up raging at people buying what you perceive is bad value cards.


What tcgs do you play? I bet you won’t list them.

Bro sorcery anon, please, just make one reply, not 4 separate ones in under ten minutes for the love of god.

>>97143567
This. One set a year. Okay so when it goes out of print and there's no market or stock of singles I'm supposed to convince casuals to play and be bought in... how exactly? Because it's still a tcg not an lcg

>>97143624
You assume one set a year means it will be printed in as relatively limited stock as magic or other big 3 slop that gets released every 50-80 days. They simply reprint dummy. Beta is on wave 3 right now.

>>97143577
James, I knew it was you the minute you flipped your shit over someone asking about something you promised

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>>97143623
I play a lot of tcgs, anon. Too many, probably. I opened the thread, started reading, and made this >>97143567 comment right here as my observation.
You are a schizo, and your arguments are terrible.

>>97143716
>pedophile art card game
>moon runes
About what I expected lmao

>>97138810
are those new cards of sorcery?? because it's ugly

>>97143742
>teehee i am le troll
You disappoint me even further. Unfortunate. I shall not continue to engage with you.

>>97143767
I wouldn't either if I were you. Now that I know you're into chinese cartoons games you've lost any ground you could have previously stood on.

>>97143764
None of that is "ugly" though. Use your words, why do you say that?

Perhaps reconsider your definition of ugly, but know that by all accounts these cards are skillfully illustrated.

>>97143847
Dude's mad someone insulted his anthropomorphized chinese cartoon cat and is lashing out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=w6nbElJLud8

/ourguy/

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>>97143968
>$300 a box
>this quality of art
I don't get the appeal honestly.

>>97144069
It's strictly the IP carrying it, like with most games these days. I get it, though. I spent a lot of money on the awful Gundam M.S. War ccg from 2000 just because it heavily featured Wing.
My friends and I were perfectly aware that the game was awful, discussing it even as we played, but we kept buying packs regardless.

>>97144103
Fair. I am not one to judge. I buy Sorcery and only play it online through the disc because there isn't a local scene lmao. I guess there's different reason to buy tcg product.

I suppose an important distinction is that we were not paying above market value to play the game, though. That does make a difference.

>>97143234
Marvel Champions feels like FAB PVE

Which sets in FaB have been most popular for draft?

>>97144069
>>97144103
IP + the gameplay is pretty alright

Just seems impossible to get a TCG to launch without it being completely scalped or DOA

>>97143968
>Once a deck with a single color of rune is possible, this game is going to break
What? I've played Aurora(has several cards with two rune costs) and Viktor(has a few cards with 3 or 4 rune costs) and I have NEVER struggled with consistency or seen anyone else playing Kai Sai struggle to cast their spells.
>Sett is broken
I've never seen anyone play Sett lol.
>Signature spells are broken
They're not a great design, but out of the three top decks right now, only Kai Sai wants a one-of her signature spell in the SIDEBOARD.

I definitely agree with the massive rule errata and the book never bringing up what the rune icon is, but it's funny look at this video now after the meta has formed, and honestly, I think it's in a pretty good spot.

>>97144103
I have negative interest in the IP, but the game is pretty fun to play so that's why I play it. But the IP is what allows for there to be a scene unfortunately, as people care more about <recognized character> than actual fun interactions.

>>97144168
My top three:

Outsiders
Uprising
Super Slam

>>97144237
>as people care more about <recognized character> than actual fun interactions.
Getting into nerdy shit again for the last few years has done wonders for my ego and self confidence. I have no doubts that I am superior to the average person now.

>>97144229
Ihing is, you can actually make a signle color rune deck. There was a funny mono red annie build with twisted fate, but rune colour is almost irrelevant, only really coming up when using seals.

>>97144103
>It's strictly the IP carrying it, like with most games these days.
I don't like League of Legends, I just bought a box on a whim because my store had it and was starting up events because the idea of getting in on the ground floor of a new card game was exciting.
Now I'm playing it because I like a lot of the art and have been enjoying playing/collecting/and strategizing with people at my locales. If you see the cards in real life the foiling looks really nice.
>>97144258
>There was a funny mono red annie build with twisted fate
That's really cool. I could see that having a lot of success if go-wide Viktor strategies remained popular, but it's just not as good as crashing a huge surprise Darius or drawing a card off of Kai Sai Survivor.
>>97144258
>but rune color is almost irrelevant
It definitely feels like they're leaving a lot of design space open. I full expect some of the following to make it's way into a new set:
- Cards that count rune colors for abilities to encourage running two color cards
- Abilities that ask you to recycle ready runes for a benefit
- Triggers that happen when you pay rune costs over two
- Death Rattle(deathkell) triggers that are worth doubling, possible as a combo deck

>>97144207
>>97144237
>the game is fun
Fair enough. I'm so used to the IP cashgrabs in recent memory having poor gameplay that I simply assumed Riftbound was the same.

>>97144301
>I like a lot of the art
Could you post some examples? The art I've seen so far looked obscenely generic.

>>97143544
no one's purity testing cards, retard. it's the official tournament rules that LCGs have to abide by. any of the big tcgs will say in some fashion that proxies aren't allowed but it's entirely up to the discretion of the LCG.

Updates on the missing cards from riftbound packs issue?

>>97144471
oh fuck!!! The TCG police are at my door! Shit anon, I had no idea I was violating the official rules!! My LGS owner who charges 20% over msrp to provide me with a folding table to play on while committing insurance fraud fucking GOT ME, noooooo!!!!!

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>>97144335
nta, but I kind of like some of the alt arts, but yeah, especially the "normal stuff" looks very generic.Some of the set 2 legend alt arts are also nice.

>>97144301
hopefully they do, they have a card (Twisted Fate) that has different effects based on the color the resource (rune) flip off the top of the deck

>>97144534
That they never updated or improved the templating is disappointing to me. Its just looks too amateurish, especially in full arts. I think I could replicate it and make a template in 15 minutes with Word which is not a good thing

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Was at my local Walmart buying cat food and decided the check the TCG section and there was one of these sitting there so figured I'd buy it.
Never played the game at all how do I upgrade it into something playable?

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>>97144669
This is why we are getting like 50 erratas each set because of how ambiguous a lot of the wording is. They will eventually default to mtg templating I believe lol. Especially is "choose" is going to be a core part of a colour identity, but "choose" is absent from like half the cards that do it.

I feel off the ashes bandwagon after the first solo box.
How has the game evolved since? Is nature still King?

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Is there any decent way to play / learn this game online with a friend?
I'd like to try it out, but people I know are so reluctant to buy/try a TCG if they aren't sure they'd enjoy it, so we all just tend to stick with Magic. I could use the excuse of us learning from home too if I had something to play / learn online with.
I think Tabletop Sim might be okay, just didn't know if anyone had a better suggestion.

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>>97144757
This game being Sorcery (if that was not obvious).
>>97144113
Wish I saw this post sooner. I'm guessing by "disc" you mean discord though, so I'm guessing you just point a camera at your desk and use real cards?

>>97144726
Post cat

>>97144777
>I'm guessing you just point a camera at your desk and use real cards?
yes except we often use fake cards and cheat a lot because its so easy

>>97144781
no, she's a little overweight and self conscious about it
besides the food was for stray cats outside I feed no my own cat

>>97144733
Not sure you're point, but I do prefer neopets having the exact visual style you shared there. It is a kids game after all, I don't expect the Bluey tcg to be photorealistic, I did expect riftbound to not look like shit as it does given the art they have as their standard for other things

>>97144757
Tabletop sim yeah. Or if you want a more authentic feel just do the webcam pointed down and proxy route. An anon earlier is playing on discord I assume doing the same thing. There's no shame in virtual play like that, it's honestly pretty fun, and accessible, no leaving the house yadda yadda

>>97144734
I believe the game will keep selling amazing because the major retailers are bubbling it super hard right now, but I also believe it will never be unplayable dogshit. It's like the Godzilla tcg or whatever. Fans dgaf about the gameplay going off the rails, they want the mons

>>97144726
You don't.
jokes aside, Jinx is like a Tier 3 deck right now, but if your locals are casual enough you can still have fun, it's pretty straight forward to build because the card pool isn't that big.

>>97144811
Post strays

>>97144835
That must mean it's cheap to upgrade then if it sucks ass

>>97144860
should be, at least relatively. Most expensive card is probably the signature spells.

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>>97144801
I see.
Might still join it and try that if I find a cheap tripod for my phone. I never used Spelltable or anything like it just because it was a pain to set something like that up without one.
>>97144812
>There's no shame in virtual play like that
Nah, no shame in it, and for long distance games I would prefer that over something like tabletop sim or other programs people use just because I do prefer using physical cards. But I just am looking for something simple to learn the game with friends before I go out putting money into actual cards, so I don't think they'd be willing to use webcams and proxies just yet. If I like it, I'd do that to play with people online and learn it, but I actually think theres a store (sort of out of the way, but close enough) to me that plays it on occasion.

>>97144879
She sounds kind of fun. I imagine she has no cards in hand ever based on her ability which I'm assuming is why she isn't good. I dunno I want to get into the game I just don't want to spend a fortune but at the same time spending money to upgrade this deck that's just going to lose doesn't sound like a good time either.

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>>97144781
Alright, done.

Cat is highly playable and can be abused for untold amount of degenerate effects.

>>97144963
part of it is that the discard payoffs aren't that great compared to what for instance annie (same colours) can do by just aggro rushing.

>>97144990
Very nice, how much?

>>97143365
nobody at a local event for an acg gives a fuck if you proxy, anon. a decent chunk allow them at tournaments.
the only anons who will tell you otherwise are the fab and bandai shills sucking off big publishers and trying to flip their "investments". but they've always been the outlier in /acg/. that's big 3 mentality, and those who espouse it are a fucking cancer.

>>97144143
does that mean the marvel champions PVP is regular FAB?

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I don't know where to post this.
I play MTG, but last night my LGS was offering Weiss Shwartz or w/e trial decks for a deep discount. My friend plays so I figured I'd grab a couple, they only had Hatsune Miku.

This card was in one, and I figured it was just a treatment in every trial deck, but evidently not? I can't find any info on it other than 1 single shop in the USA has 2 and they want 300 for it.
That can't be right?

>>97145004
I'm gonna try to make it work. Reading through the cards in the deck a lot of them do stuff when you discard them which I think sounds neat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SY9hbSQCWA


Another TCG has entered the fray lol

>>97145115
I refuse to believe Cyberpunk is a big enough IP to carry a TCG.

>>97145084
>no because champions is actually fun

>>97145060
Too late, I'm using my five minutes of phone time to warn you all about the dangers of proxying

>>97145034
It's an elite foil, something that's akin to a foil rare. I'd say between 8 and 15 dollars, wouldn't pay any more than 20 to be honest. Elite cards have a restriction of you only being able to use 2 in a given sorcery deck, so at least you don't need to get more than a duo to complete your set.

>>97145115
but we already have a cyberpunk TCG

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>>97145089
WS SP cards can go for a lot of money. $300 is nothing.

>>97145089
list for 500 on ebay with offers enabled
wait for someone to talk you down to 300
???
profit

>>97144519
>yes i'm being facetious to your reasonable point to own you. how could you tell?

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>>97145089
I don't play the game, but I looked it up out of curiosity, and it does seem to be a rarer variant with that signature. TCGplayer was selling it for around that $300 price range, only one for sale.
Mostly just on the fly googling from me, so I may be wrong, but it seems like you got lucky.
Its a cute card though.

Is that game actually fun? I love weeb shit, but the card games always seem a bit convoluted. Plus using screen grabs for a lot of the art never really resonated with me.

>>97145274
I honestly haven't even played it yet, I just saw these trial decks for super cheap and figured, why not.

From what I've gathered it's better than Union Arena, though.

>>97145254
>reasonable point
How hard is it living in fear to the point that going to the print store self service and printing off a sheet of 9 cards you downloaded the images of is giving you a cold sweat that you're risking it all. Anyone who gives a fuck about proxied ACGs is a loser. You're a loser.

>>97145188
>>97145203
>whatthefuckisthispieceofshit?.gif
I get that tcgs are easy money but jesus man, even riftbound looks more professional

>>97144744
no nature is actually the worst magic color now

>>97145301
if players accept proxies, they get left holding their bags.
that's it, that's the whole argument. theyre flippers.

>>97145287
>From what I've gathered it's better than Union Arena, though.
Any game that requires you to be losing to do anything is bad.

>>97145060
>nobody at a local event for an acg gives a fuck if you proxy
mind you this entire talk about proxies hinged on allocations for gundam. the game has actual rulings on whether or not proxies are legal in store tournaments (they're not). you must live in a third-world country if people are openly using proxies in a official store tournament. i've heard of guys borrowing legit cards they're short on but never bringing proxies with them because that's a dumb way to get DQ'd.

>>97145329
>the game has actual rulings on whether or not proxies are legal
lol
lmao even

>>97145329
So dont play with narc players at narc facilities you fucking loser

>>97145322
The guy who paid 200 bucks for the sorcery booster box when no stores have players in his area is very upset that you said that

>>97145301
do you need to play competitive decks that you 100% know is out of your price range? in gundam's case, there are webcam tournaments that fully allow proxies because they aren't beholden to bandai to run and support the game. lgs' ARE beholden to bandai so they have to abide by their rules or face getting blacklisted from getting product.

>>97145345
https://www.gundam-gcg.com/en/pdf/floor_rule_en.pdf?2508291
>2.4.1 Cards
Only appropriate cards created by Bandai Co., Ltd., orthose recognized by Bandai Co., Ltd. may be used at events. Cards that have been marked, signed, painted, stamped, graded/“slabbed”, or otherwise altered in any way are forbidden and cannot be used in official events.
>>97145367
you never know who you're sitting across from and will ruleshark you to get the win. so don't risk an easy loss by playing proxies at an official event.

>>97145404
what is your asd level?

>>97145435
if i'm autistic for referring to the rules, then a lot of people would be autistic.

>>97145404
>>97145377
This is a profoundly embarassing position to take on ACG general my dude. I can't even stomach giving more you's its not fun anymore. I will keep playing every game listed here for the cost of ink and sleeves against identical decks that some bagholder paid 500 bucks for and not feel bad about it knowing anons like you will seethe

>>97145305
>no nature is actually the worst magic color now
Jesus H Christ what happened???!!

>>97145481
Man they really fucked up her design as that games development progressed.

>>97145469
it's not like i'm holding you to only play the game through official channels. like i said in >>97145377 there are online tournaments that allow proxies and offer prizing that's close or equal to what you'd get at an lgs. just know that if you do want to play the game offline compeititvely, then proxies aren't allowed.

i've never seen such an autistic anon

>>97145515
thanks, man.

>>97145485
everything else got more support to bring it up to parity? idk. nature decks can still win tournaments but theyre def a long way from dominant

>>97144726
raw doggin it, but here's a general list
- 3 Traveling Merchant
- 3 Chemtech enforcer
T1 play that lets you rummage, which is important
- 3 Scrapheap
Let's you profit off of rummaging
- 3 Stacked deck
If you can find three-of this is really god to have for effectively brainstorming
- 3 Sneaky Deckhand
- 3 Pouty Poro
- 3 Vi, Destructive
- 3 Flame Chompers(cast off of rummaging)
Get on base
- 3 Ride the wind
- 2 Fight of Flight
Keep your units alive
- 1 Rebuke, 2 in side
- 2 Gust, 1 in side
Bouncing is amazing for tempo
- Some amount of Vayne, Hunter
- The battlefield that causes you rummage
- Arena's greatest for accelerating one of the games

The game plan is to get in early and try to disrupt the opponent, getting value off of rummaging, emptying your hand for Vi slugging, and closing out the game as quickly as possible.

>>97145115
There's not enough of an IP for this, like even League has decades of lore, an entire universe, and hundreds of characters.

Cyberpunk has like 5 characters and 1 game to pick from, what in the hell can you make in this setting that will last years?

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>>97145735
>Cyberpunk has like 5 characters and 1 game to pick from
Is this nigga for real?

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????

>>97145157
Thank you <3

>>97140464
The problem is illusionist and necromancer.
They decided that part of the class identity of some classes is that they just do not get to interact with phantasm/spectra/ward/allies. Ergo, those classes then have an auto-loss into whatever the current permanents deck is, ergo they become unviable forever.

They should have learned their lesson when Prism first LL'd but instead they doubled down because they realized a ton of players will only play that style of deck and just quit when Prism LL'd.

>>97145115
>set to launch on kickstarter
>Cyberpunk IP
it's dead

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>>97146140
Ironic

>>97144757
>>97144777
Is that cost "three generic plus two of the specified type," or "three total, including two of the specified type?"

>>97146242
Yeah so lands always produce 1 mana, but if they have an elemental symbol on them they also contribute that element to your threshhold. If you're talking about "Aino" for instance, she is three cost and requires two sources of water element to be able to cast her.

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>>97146242
>>97146255
They introduced common splash dual sites in Gothic. They are all really beautiful. Genesis means a one time effect the turn it's played.

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>>97146368
>>97146386

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What's the MSRP on the Sorcery Gothic precon box? Trying to figure out if 54 is worth it at my lgs

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>>97146368
>>97146386
>>97146399
Last one

>>97146406
Prince Distribution has them at $52.95 being MSRP.

>>97146417
Cool sounds close enough, I'll grab a box for the holidays

>>97146368
could you guys imagine having sex here?

>>97146425
Yes but only with a woman I loved for the purpose of procreation.

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>>97146399
>>97146386
>>97146368
>>97146411
I used to see this game occasionally played at my LGS.
Now that I've actually taken an interest in it, it seems they don't host anymore. Kind depressing given that the marvel and TMNT shit is a total turn off of Magic for me. Guess I'll just have to enjoy Lorwyn and hope Sorcery makes a resurgence or maybe get into Flesh and Blood since thats still played nearby.
I might still pick up something for it just because I really like the artwork.

>>97146484
I know it's not the same but plenty of us play online in the disc through TTS.

Would duel masters count as /acg/?

>>97146509
The official discord??
And yeah its not the same as physical cards, which I like more, but if I get into it at the very least I would have an excuse to make the purchase and teach some of my friends the game.

>>97145404
I don't know why you keep on with all that retarded fucking blathering when you contradict yourself quite clearly here >>97142351 by claiming you pirate ("proxy" as clarified here >>97142598) Sorcery cards, not Gundam Cards.

>>97146509
Why not untap?

>>97146425
My 20s were wild. Yes I can 'imagine' what having sex feels like.

Sorcery shills, why is the game being sold for so much over MSRP? Is there any legitimate reason why, or signs the prices will come down? I would like to buy in but I don't really see the value in it when I'm getting comparable niche games for 2/3 of the price
>>97146522
Those aren't the same anon dumbfuck
>t. has been shitting on the rulesdweeb all day

>>97146612
>Sorcery shills, why is the game being sold for so much over MSRP?
I honestly don't know, maybe demand is that high? It doesn't really bother me because of it being one set per year, the game itself is quite affordable relative to many tcgs because of that.

>>97146612
>>97146634
Are you looking specifically online?
My LGS has Gothic boxes in stock for $130 right now and that seems pretty normal if not slightly MSRP oddly enough.
Though I read that its been doing well, so maybe its demand. Not sure.

>>97146634
One set a year but how many booster boxes do you need to purchase to have a fulfilling experience (obviously differs but still). Because the singles market is not an option nor are picking up packs here and there, there's just no supply where I am. My retailer just carries a couple boxes and then lets them go out of stock for months. They do that for all the niche games, cookie and GA for instance, but they're the only reliable retailer or half my country

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>sorcery enthusiasm at an all time high here
>fab is faceplanting their empire in record time
Huh, didn't see that one coming. Guess I'll go pick up the doom starter decks and give contested realm a go.

>>97146758
Buy an ad

>>97142373
>reading comprehension
your right though I did stop playing games boring shit.

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>>97146807
No need, the product speaks for itself.

>>97147083
Uhm. Huh. Yeah it sure is anon! Not in the way you hoped uhhh

>>97147083
This shit oozes 90’s in the best way

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>>97147083
Prettiest foils ive ever seen in any card game irl

>>97147147
Looks the same as my inkjet copy when theyre behind a foggy ultra pro matte , still shit

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Is there a resource for Grand Archive decks? I'm a new player and I want to build a deck around Nico because she's hot but I don't know how to deck build.

Does Jinx get better in set 2?

>>97147147
I just opened a non foil of this today. God damn, I wish I could get a lot of these in foil just because of how well they masking was done this set. It's pretty swag.

>>97147292
https://fractalofin.site

Pretty good website for tournament results and you should be able to search by Champion to see lists. That said, Nico isn't the best right now.

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>>97147109
>Not in the way you hoped uhhh
Eh, it's a living.

>>97147436
>Nico isn't the best right now
That's fine. I'm more likely to learn a card game if I pick a card/deck that I like.

>>97147436
>>97147458
Also thanks. I probably should have said that first.

>>97147450
>FF not displayed
Proving day by day its the only good UB set ever made.

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>>97140349
>That's more of a TTRPG and I can't think of a cardgame quite like it
Wow, 7th sea, warlords and a Lord of the rings.

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>>97147632
Oh yeah, this is a fucking thing. I can't wait to get my boxes, rip it open, and not know how to play it.

>>97147292
other than what the other anon said, shoutatyourdecks.com works too but that stuff is usually untested and more often than not bad. but the lost in thoughts ban, icebound slam ban just hurt nico milling. she's in a mediocre spot rn

>>97147436
>>97147928
Weebs of the shore is really dropping the ball hard by having such a poor website when these types of things would be really simple to integrate. I really want the game to succeed so here's hoping it keeps going up up up

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Alright bought my Nico deck
>>97147928
Well I can hopefully figure it out. I just straight up 1:1 copied a deck list from fractalofin
>>97147942
Well they have at least one new customer. I bought 2 starter decks to play against myself and, assuming I'm playing it right, the gameplay is very fun.

>>97147632
>Wow
Wow?

>>97148054
Wow!

>>97148051
I am not trying to be a dick but how old are you? I would be embarrassed to show that I own cards like this in public.

>>97146893
whatever helps you cope, retard.

>>97148167
>I would be embarrassed to show that I own cards like this in public.
How is that my problem?

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>>97148167
Given that hes old enough to not care what people think about things he enjoys, I'd assume hes older than you.
I just laugh when people try to pull that shit on me.
Here, maybe this card is more your speed. This will show everyone how mature you are.

>>97148186
>transit mage
I'm assuming that's a dude pretending to be a girl?

>>97148064
Is there a game called Wow?

>>97148310
World of Warcraft

>>97148335
That's not a card game...

>>97148339
It was once

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>>97148219
It's supposed to be a male so probably a woman pretending to be a man.

>>97148346
Oh, yeah, I forgot about that.

>>97148167
Found the netrunner wokie

>>97147657
Why did it come back

>>97148339
one of the better all time acgs actually. been oop 12 or 13 years but people still have tournaments for it, and there's a group that makes more sets and dungeons.

>>97148480
I never meshed with Hearthstone myself.

>>97148480
Interesting. Any links?

>>97148483
not the same thing. hearthstone is the braindead mobile app knockoff (that reuses a lot of the art).

>>97148485
>www.wowtcgreborn.com/
that's where they post fan made sets from recent years. but the whole game including the official 7 or 8 years of sets are easy to find if you want to print and play.

>>97148354
wowtcg was an odd one. doesn't look like it should have been good. IP game, started out looking like a vanilla ass magic clone. but it stands the test of time like few games do

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>>97148504
You reminded me I have a rogue deck from the wow tcg. Haven’t pulled it out in years.

>>97148587
>anon just whips it out on cam
Hot

>usually go to mtg dominated stores
>check out a weeb store this time
>everyone looks significantly more well put together
>the game variety is off the charts
>the art for these games isn't dogshit
I think I might be home.

>>97148646
Welcome, brother

>>97146511
In the west, yes.

>>97148646
MTG is a humiliation ritual so it reverse filters the worst kinds of people

>>97148646
>check out a weeb store this time
Whats a weeb store?
How can I find one?
Pokemon is as weeb as mine get sadly and I've been to almost all the stores within an hour of me.

I wish Yugioh wasn’t one of the worst games of all time. I like the art and played as a kid.

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>>97148806
I still love everything about Toon World and Toon Monsters to this day.
It does suck ass but I'd play again if they would actually release some new support for it.

>>97148814
In my dreams I saw them doing like a “ classic “ run where they just release from the base set and make a format using just the old cards.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBAAZZroU18
this guy is bonkers, imagine hijacking a necromancer's skeletal army by playing this

>>97144069
>+Might is on the opposite side of the card
Shit fucking template design.

>>97148051
if you have locals you can go play there with proxies. People are usually super chill about that. otherwise on the ga discord you can find people to practice and play with on tts. if you have a full playset of your deck you can play in the online weekly yeti discord with a webcam. that one has prizing and is free entry for weeklies. regionals there cost but overall you can stack your pricing and get it shipped to you once a season ends (new set) comes out

>>97141025
None of the sorcery cards are worth anything, the few autists who think their curios are worth thousands will be bought by the same autists who want to sell them for the same amount or higher.

>>97149542
If someone buys something for over a thousand dollars and then resells it for more than he bought it for it means the item is worth more than a thousand dollars. I don't know where you went from sorcery cards are worthless to using an example of sorcery cards being sold for 4-5 figures.

>>97149573
If Sorcery cards were really worth that much then the game would be a lot more popular than it is.
A card being passed around between the 10 people who play the game means nothing when it's confined in that small sphere with no one outside of it caring for it.
And this shows considering that during the time Arthurian Legends came out and for the following months every Curio costed over 2k especially the knight's and so and yet now you can find alll of them being sold for less 1000-1.500$, the Curio Grail that was supposedly this 5k up card at launch now goes for 1.300 on average on eBay.
Take a look at One Piece, it's a perfect example of what I'm saying, it's art is average to passable and yet it's shitty Luffy alt art number 5682954 stills sells for thousands and stays like for a long time if it doesn't go up because the fanbase even outside the TCG itself is so big.

>>97148806
Yugioh is only enjoyed when played with friends who aren't meta sheep autists.
The game being so ass designed is actually good for anyone who wants to collect or play non meta decks.
Troonverstors get btfoed by Konami's reprint policy and as such everything is stupidly cheap in comparison to most other games.

>>97149612
>If Sorcery cards were really worth that much then the game would be a lot more popular than it is.
No anon, that's a really juvenile way of looking at market forces and how they interact with prices. I am guessing you're a kid as you seem to view a time period of a year as " long term ".

>>97149623
>Troonverstors get btfoed by Konami's reprint policy and as such everything is stupidly cheap in comparison to most other games.
Except Konami's reprint policy and general powercreep don't allow the game to become cheap often. Konami releases a deck, its not easily accessible so the only option is to buy it on the secondary market for a high price, OR wait for its reprint a year or so down the line. By the time the reprint happens, the deck is either dead via powercreep or dead via banlist. Sometimes Konami is kind and waits for the reprint to exist for a little bit before signalling the death of the deck so they can sell the reprints first.
Yugioh is basically in a perpetual state of high cost. Even right now with staples as easily accessible as possible due to Legendary 5D's Decks having a bunch of them in a 3-deck pack, you still need to drop nearly $100 on 3 copies of 3 decks you don't really care about and get some staples

>>97148827
You should try speed duels (not the app)

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>>97149498
>if you have a full playset of your deck you can play in the online weekly yeti discord with a webcam
Yeah I'll probably end up doing this. I've been wanting to get a setup for webcam card games for a while anyway. Thanks for the info
>>97150004
I've recently started buying those speed duel boxes to play with buddies and they're really, really good value

>>97148180
>plays gundam
>calls others retard
lmao.

>>97150122
Obviously YGO isnt an acg but what about Speed Duels specifically?

>>97149804
>No anon, that's a really juvenile way of looking at market forces and how they interact with prices.
No arguments only excuses, I accept your concession.
Long term doesn't mean jack if no one cares about your game, doesn't matter if you wait 1 year or 2 decades.

>he has no idea there's already been sales in the thousands for gothic curios
Stay ignorant

>>97149805
The game is already cheaper than any of the big TCG on release and what you said is false because 90% you can buy reprinted boxes for like half the price due to how much reprinting Konami does.
How cheaper do you want them to be? A booster box costing a dollar and a subway coupon?

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Well we all are trying to shit on Fab, let me do the same, but for a diferent reason.
WHAT in GOD name is this ability?What exactly i'm not seeing? Why i would pay 3 resoucers to put -UNO- +1 attack counter on my weapon, that will remove ALL COUNTERS at the end of the turn?
What is the Plan here?

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New Trinity Draft dropped
>https://trinitydraftcards.com/blaze/all
>>97150395
More half assed junk for 2h sword to go alongside more sword support in the set I imagine as Big Axe players go without water for literal years.

>>97150145
cope harder.

>>97150395
I read the name as Halal, Bladest of Vows

>>97150395
The way I see it this ability is meant to close games so the cost won't matter. That or it's simply shit.

>>97150682
> is meant to close games so the cost won't matter.
This don't make sense. Is not a reaction, so you can't use middle combat, and even a blue card would give more than just +1 for your weapon.
The more I think about it, the less sense it makes.
The only way this can work is if this hero has some weird/specific weapon that in some way makes this work like " this weapon doesn't lose counters" or a weird specialization that multiply the number of counters.

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>>97150395
LSS doesn't balance anything well besides limited environments. They self admitted that's all they focus on. Fans have been screaming that the armory decks SUCK DICK and they're a joke if you try to compete with them, so I'm not shocked a hero that exists outside of a draft set and only appears in armory form also GOBBLES COCK. I saw one guy begging in the latest streamed event that he needed to know what her weapon did in order to assess why her hero ability is balls stupid. He was left unanswered.

The only thing they did well with Hala is hire Gwendoline Christie to voice her intro. She's likely never to reappear as this role, unless LSS gets stinking filthy rich and can find a studio (cough WETA) to make a live action Fab thing.

>>97150395
"Sharpen" is in bold like some sort of keyword, so I assume she has a parasitic relationship with cards in her set that give you some extra benefit if you've sharpened. Compare her to the dwarf in Superslam who can spend three and tap for a similarly tiny bonus, but also "the crowd boos you."

>>97150963
>LSS doesn't balance anything well besides limited environments. They self admitted that's all they focus on.
Based

Can you move the Yu-gi-oh talk somewhere else?
Thank you

>>97151124
It is until you realize the only way to continue to enjoy limited is marathon a fucking ton of it on set launch before it dies off because everyone rather play CC.

>>97151155
small game please understand

>>97151204
MtG doesn't own a monopoly on cube

>>97151282
Did you miss the part where everyone flocks to the tent pole format because that's what LSS advertises as their most important bread and butter to them?

>>97151398
Here we go with the competitive player shit again yeah bro tell me how mtg faggots are drafting for millions or whatever you wanna push goalposts to today.

>>97151473
I don't play pro exclusive, everyone else does. Are you stupid?

>>97151111
After some thinking, maybe i know what will be, the weapon will be something like: sword (2h), 2pp to attack, 3 damage
"If this sword has +1 counter, double the amount of damage deal as a result of attack"

or

"If this sword has +1 counter, double the amount of damage deal to block calculation only"

If is not that, i don't know what they are doing.

>>97150122
>I've recently started buying those speed duel boxes to play with buddies and they're really, really good value
Based. It's the best way to play yugioh in the West
>>97150235
>small player base
>dead until further notice
>just a few sets
I would say yes
>>97150267
NTA, but I want OCG boxes