Burn Edition>Banshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-november-10-2025>NewsThe 2025 Magic Con and Pro Tour Schedule:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotationhttps://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is EDH?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963>WotC's War Crimeshttps://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)>Previously>>97305725>TQHow do you feel? Answer with a card.
>>97311043>How do you feel? Answer with a card.Honestly?This set looks like total fucking shit.I see why they desperately tried to hide the spoilers.
"Honey, we have Undergrowth Recon in the mythic slot at home.">The Undergrowth Recon in the mythic slot at home
>>97311131Honestly I like this card and immediately began thinking up some brews. You can put stuff like modular creatures or off-color creatures into play. It's obviously not Sneak Attack. But I'm sure there's some silly builds you could make around it. Dumping a Karmic Guide or Clone into play is like the least broken thing you can do with it.
https://mtgtop8.com/event?e=78484&d=795834&f=LEOk so after seeing these two Legacy decks that use Leyline of Transformation, a thought occurred to me:Leyline + DidgeridooIt's just going to end up being a worse Show and Tell but nonetheless I think it could be a fun brew. Didgeridoo being fetchable with Urza's Saga is actually quite relevant though.
Thoughts on the generic tribal convoke rares? I have hopes for my personal pet tribe, but I wonder if anyone here has hopes for anything from maybe Bloomburrow getting better with them.
I stopped playing Standard format due to me being unhappy with the November bans. Now I only play Brawl. This is my Brawl Commander, Freya Crescent. My deck is basically red-deck-wins good stuff with only a minor equipment theme. I also like that it is a cute commander without being unplayable or high mana-value.
>>97311955Blue one is pretty good but there's no blue tribe for it.Black one probably costs too much.
Kinda funny how dogshit the mechanic of Daybound and Nightbound was that the new Lorwyn doesn't have any of it despite how much of a flavor win it would've been
>>97311955I think they're fine, they have a fair power level. Obviously tribes that make lots of tokens will be able to better utilize them.
>>97312342I thought that mechanic was a significant improvement over the original werewolf flip triggers and fixed the problems with that very neatly. It hadn't occurred to me but you're right that it would fit perfectly within this set. I wonder why they didn't use it?
>>97312342I was thinking about that, but the thing is they couldn’t use the existing Day/Night because Lorwyn doesn’t even have a natural Day Night cycle, it’s magic
Werewolf-related night mechanic wasn't about duality, it was supposed to introduce suspense as the game progresses. At first both players have lots of cards to play but as they start topdecking, it becomes harder to keep enemy werewolves from transforming.
>>97312381It was considered one Magic's greatest mistake and is now deprecated. The Innistrad remastered didn't even have the only good werewolf with daybound. People found tracking day/night too annoying.
>>97312381The mechanic is probably the worst to play with in paper because it's something you must track for the rest of the game as soon as any card with it is played even if it's a one off
>>97311955The blue one is practically a reprint but they slapped on convoke and 2 mana for some reason. The red one is basically gratuitous violence but they slapped on convoke and made it tribal.
>>97312501couldn't they just errata it so that it goes away if there's no day/night permanents on the battlefield?
>>97312477>>97312501>It was considered one Magic's greatest mistakeReally? I never played with it on paper but I guess it must be kind of annoying to keep track of.
>>97311955great, the new lorwyn set has the same instantly recognizable soulless ai-tier artrest in shit, mtg
>>97312760>flavor textinterspecies sexo?
it's sad, because i think lorwyn was the last time i liked the art in mtg
>>97311131actually, the art on this one is good
>>97312760wait, that card was referencing literal brainwashing and rape?? wtf
>>97312909Can't rape males duh, it's all good
>>97312918this, but ironically
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/designing-avatar-the-last-airbender-team-avatar-and-legendary-creaturesATLA card legends design.Katara the fearless loss waterbending to make room for flavertext.The uncommon Aang was supposed to be 2 sided but they needed a cycle of uncommon DFC so the instead they added a cycle of mythic rare dfc which became the avatar sagas.
>>97311955Everything in this set is boring so far.Convoke is an extremely fucking boring mechanic and completely out of place in most colors, ESPECIALLY blue.But whatever, These are fine. I'd prefer boring over whatever the fuck Aetherdrift was.
>>97312788bitch got that stick of Extra spearmint gum lookin' ass body.
>>97312788This one looks so bad and weird lol. The proportions on her waist/belly is so skewed. Sometimes making weird proportions makes cool and interesting art (Rebecca Guay is a good example), but this one is just bad. Kind of shit that would be called out as AI nowadays.
>>97313140i like how weird she looks, it sets her apart from humans, and sometimes the weird ones are just more memorable (such as the crack faerie)and it doesn't betray the digital art stigma that is just pure vomitlorwyn had a lot of character
>>97313104I think white is the color it's the most out place if we think about it as giving your creatures a mana ability.1.Green is the best match2. Red it is now in pie3. Blue only makes sense on non creature cards.4. Black needs an additional cost5. White doesn't make sense at all. Improvise is a better fit for it.
>>97311043Why they couldn’t take some risks and give us some interesting and new mechanics for Lorwyn, i wonder?
>>97313324For commander players, hybrid mana serving its actual purpose will be a new mechanic.Enjoy!
>>97313280White makes a lot of sense, it's a bunch of creatures working together to do something bigger than they normally could otherwise, that's community.
>>97313280>Red is NOW in pieRetard, ANYthing can be “now in pie” whenever JOTC kikes feel like it with blue vigilance, black enchantment removal and green artifact synergy. They literally have the power to rewrite the rules whenever they want, but always favor breaking them for red blue and black. They honestly haven’t broken anything new for white ever.
>>97313452Anything makes sense if you flavor it properly. It does not make mechanical sense.
>>97313471Well it was created as a WG mechanic, so that's going to be a hard sell. White has plenty of cards that reward going wide.
>>97313280>if we think about it as giving your creatures a mana abilitySounds like a perspective issue. Think of it instead as a discount you get for going wide (classic White) and you should be able to understand.
Convoke is peak Fake White and marks the beginning of the ongoing malicious talmudic assault on White
>>97313541>the beginning>implying there was a period of time where it didn't happenwotc apologists should hang
>>97313324I'm just gonna say it: the mechanics of the original Lorwyn/Shadowmoor block are just not that interesting (Tribal, color matters, Evoke and -1/-1 counters). Last time they took a risk and radically altered a beloved past plane's mechanic identity you got MKM. Maybe they didn't want to repeat that.
>>97313545Fuck off, larperkike
>>97312284She's neat.
>>97312284>due to me being unhappy with the November bansYou mean unhappy that they didn't go far enough, right?
The cub needs to be banned. That and stormchaser talent.
Preordered at $369 the day before the reveal. These are so predictable. I expect a peak of like $620, and a fall back down to $450-$500 a couple months later.
>>97313487>>97313519That's affinity.
>>97313657So just buy the whole stock and dump it. If you know markets so well, you'd not tell anybody and just fucking do it, but you're a broke faggot, and you're the fucking consumer for this product.
>>97313622>still can't name a real white card or mechanicI'm right and you know it, maro
Springleaf drum reprint.Abandon the bug.
>>97313667That would be a 20-30% return over 3 months which is pretty good, but it would be a huge capital investment and requires resource and storage and time and distribution, which is not worth the effort. Its just fun trying to outdo the player anti-hype to hype cycle which is very predictable.
>>97313661Even 1 mana for a 3/3 flyer isn't good. I get it you play white, but thats not enough. You need to actually create a board, so just win on the board, how will a 3/3 flyer dodge board wipes. Shits fucking trash.
>>97313676Those things, storage and everything are additional costs.
>>97313676I look at niche effects i thought were awesome, but now those cards are like 1 or 2 dollars. Unique lands will always hold value. Unique effects can be stupid. I paid like 5 dollars a piece for those rituals effects for a ruby storm deck, the red dark ritual effects, those things are more expensive than actual dark rituals.Im just poking my head in here because I promise you all ima win a lot more amd if you follow the competitive scene, I've played them all and I will beat them all again in fiery competitions. We do not discriminate, and they are all officially on notice, thank you for your attention to this matter.
>>97313670This card in construction sees play on the affinity deck that wants to resolve turn 1 Kappa. It's very hard to use it in anything else on the construction side, but it acts as an important mana fixer in limited formats, and if you have a 3 color bomb, you're going to have to work to find a way to get it out of your hand. That bomb should win, but finding a way to cast it, and this is going to be a tool to get it done. Pack 3 i might pick it first
>>97313715If I take a 3 color bomb pick one and this is pick 2, im so fucking happy... I can literally go 5 colors at that point
>>97313732Im saying at that point, I could completely switch into the opposite colors of my first pick, if removal is being given to me and stuff.... ill just grab best removal on card 3 might not even use it, but what i actually care about is what I am passing to my opponents. I really wanted to talk about modern.
A rolling stone gathers no moss.
>>97313761
ONE LIGHTONE DARKTWO WORLDSA WORLD APA~RT
I want pre-game actions and free spells to return to standard.
>>97307768Not only does this seem not good to me, it seems genuinely bad. If this gets played on me I'm just immediately tutoring something that kills an enchantment. Pay 3 to burn me 3 and pseudo deny me a draw that actually goes 1 for 1 in card advantage? I don't get it. I only want to play a card like this if I get the effect first, not last. What am I missing?
Tormoands crypt is legal in standard because of that one starter set, but what the fuck is that stalking stones reprint that was only printed in that set. To me, if you're a trader get 4 play sets, and sell them, but you're easily fucked if it reprints. It will probably reprint in this set an not even revealed.
>>97313803>Wasting your tutor on dedicated Enchant hatelmao smartest paste eater
>>97313803You run it with stuff that prevents your opponent from searching their library, basically locking them out of getting any more cards.
>>97313816Thereby turning their tutor engine into a piece that has only netted me, their opponent, a tutor and them zero tutors and a shitty amount of burn? You consider that a waste?
>>97313803>Give your opponent an opportunity to find an answer>no just give them a free win the gameThis card is fine. You have to set up enough to spend 3 and have free disruption, they draw first under this effect. It looks broken, but its not.
>>97313823Youre up to 7 mana boss, still fair if you make 7 or 8 mana win the fucking game
>>97313823I play a lot of amulet titan and ruby storm. All I got to say is Ashiot planes walkers effect to shut down searches, might be the hardest hate card I see against my bullshit amulet titan deck. They spent 3 mana and their whole turn for that. I can still just use a big 6/6 creature to run through. I've died in combat attacking into extra ping effects. Im not sure im convinced its very expensive to set up.
>>97313849I never said it was good or bad, just a use case. If you're trying to play the card "fairly" you're going to have a bad time.
>>97313775This one is actually going to be something everyone wants exactly 1 copy of for commander, so buy all of them for later
>>97313885Damn this is rough, reaminate it and pop lands to force search with bullshit. Except its not that easy. We don't have entomb
>>97313885I played this game when 4 entombs was legal. You will never know the bullshit I've seen
>>97313921hey sperg, how about reading the thread first AND then responding in a single post?
Why is there a tripbot spam replying to everything in the thread with nonsensical posts?
It was a different game back then... I want to see the pre-modern ban list because we were entombing and drark rituals to one of 8 reanimator effects, and just winning the game.
>>97313936No, how about fuck you, I have been posting for over an hour and you can go fuck yourself.
>>97313938Methamphetamine is a drug favored by the LGBTQIA+ community
This asshole pseudo judge is probably a tranny. Im out, but its most critical to focus on how basically im better than all of you. Thank you for your attention to this matter.>>97313953You'd never win vs me. You can try but I'm better than you. I tried every drug, ive had so much sex shit im ashamed of, but I learned from my experiences, beating me might be the best thing you'll never do in your life, keep thinking you know everything loser.
Two random Magic players meet for the first time. Given the amount of formats and variants of the game, the differences in budget and power level, what are the chances they can actually play against each other and have a normal game?
>>97313980Damn, you got my interests, i out the odds at +1500, so like 93.5%
>>97313980I can't imagine it gets past the Mulligan phase with tards like this >>97313977 in the wild.
>>97313980>>97313980>>97313993They don't even fucking play.
>>97313998They argue about the stack and layers.
>>97313994I got basic lands worth more than your collection.
>>97314006Yeah, because I sold them to you. For a fair price of course.
>>97313994My dog who's whole life has been experienced literally pissed on these.
>>97314022Why would you cum on a plains and not a mountain?
Here's another angle.
>>97314026I didn't cum on these cards. The only card I would ever consider cumming on is the Japanese alternative art of Narset from that war of the spark set.
Whatever, islands should be banned
>>97314026Climbing mountain hard, cumming in the field is easy.
>>97314026>>97314056Island is sacred, requires swimming, I could show pictures of my indoor swimming pool, but I was treated unjustly and I hate some of the people ITT not because of their circumstances, but because their attitude was most selfish. I would help anyone but I got shit to do, if yiu want my attention send me a (you). I wont be monitoring this thread, but you can find me on /bant/and /biz/ in the (smg) generals. Take care and g_dbless
>>97312707The point of the mechanic tracking it forever was that you can play your werewolves already transformed when it's the night.They should have just errata the old cards into only caring if the active player cast spells, so werewolf player doesn't get fucked just because of a one instant at their end step. That part of the new mechanic was nice.
Imagine having a drug-induced shizophrenic episode and then wasting it on some lame ass forum where nerds discuss their silly card game. What a loser.
>>97313466"Draw a card." used to be a colour pie break for white non-cantrips.Now you get card draw engines like Caretaker's Talent or Welcoming Vampire.
>>97314099Checked, they don't even know.
>>97314114Fuck this whole colour pie cock suckers, we can all play everything, we have fetch lands to find dual lands, anybody can do anything, stop fucking everyone and let us all rape everyone, Just because I find a cock sucking card that cantrips and removes these creatures, and its a white card. Im a bad guy.
>>97314114Artifacts exist, I can murder you all in commaner, pick my commander and ill just roll with all colorless and still school you all.
>>97314138This card is super cheap, but its effect is important, it shuts off so much avatar shit and werewolf shit, none of you know the rules of the flip cards and the stack, this card is actually white, and it cantrips at worst for 2. Cast it for nothing and cantrip.
At its best, it fucks so many things, token generation, studd like urzas saga level 2 to make a dude, shut off a bombardment of token generation from a field of the dead, and those transform cards have wording on them. If you read those card that enter as a creature transformed, well this shuts that off and you draw, white is good.
I really dig this art but it's very sinister for a White card. I guess they're being hyper-strict on tribe colors? Would like to see a little bleedover for non-Elementals and Changelings, personally (a few black Merrows, green Boggarts, etc.)
>>97314198I don't give a fuck what they do. We just get to play what we're given. I have a friend who wants goblins to work in modern, so I hope they make a goblin for him.
>>97314198There's some exceptions but I'm guessing it'll mainly be for story characters.
>>97314198>>97314204should these really be 2/2 at 2 cmc with their additional abilities?
>>97314198I want a one mana blue spell that says you win the game, so we can ban islands, and I can remove the dismemmembers from my amulet titan to free up space for pact of negation.
>>97314204Ah shit good catch, I didn't search elves after seeing only 2-color Gobs and Merfolk.>>97314202What would Gobbos need in your opinion? Does that Squelcher do anything? I don't play Modern so I don't know how relevant Ward and uncounterable is.
>>97314207Every color has gotten upside bears for a long time now it seems. Pour one out for Goblin Piker his ilk.
>>97314198This is too large to be a merfolk
>>97314212It's not for me, but he's like 1 card from breaking the tribe. It could be a thought size effect on a 2 mana dude or like kill a guy and make a guy for 2 I think is an effect he would just try it and really try to force it.
>>97314216Goddamn, white bordered modern frames were so ugly and the cards were atrociously bad. 8th and 9th edition must have been the worst sets ever printed.
>>97314223Xe identifies as a Merfolk
>>97314229Dude, when you have to search for a specific card, and play like a slew of 9 fetches in your commander deck, its actually beneficial because they became easier to find, and it sped up the process of playing the game. Ugly is ugly, but functionality and shit, its equal. You think my 8th edition white bordered birds of paradise done help me cast spells of any color? Fuck you
>>97314212There's also a green giant. Maybe some others that aren't on scryfall yet.
>>97314216Card sucks, give me the 1/1 from tempest that sacrifices to deal 1 damage to a target... This card was created around the time they changed combat damage rules. It used to go on the stack, there was lots of bullshit we did with multiple copies of Mishras factories, and using them to buff eachother post blocks and then sacrificing lands, look the rules changed like 25 years ago.
>>973142527 or 8 mana won the game card is fine, I love this card.
>>97314216it's pretty crazy that for so much of the game's history, the go-to 2 drops for red aggro were sidegrades or even direct downgrades (creature type not withstanding, standard/block doesn't always have tribal support) of ironclaw orcsit's all gone so wrong...
>>97314252Pitch it and reanimated it, wi. The game, i still love it. Graveyard hate needs to be ubiquitous. And we are given options, this card doesn't immediately win, but for fucks sake if im reading it, its a cascade on steroids, and that white card i showed earlier would shut it off.
>>97314267Yeah, it's seriously crazy how red used to be balanced and fair.
>enchanted land is the chosen colorI feel like they never do this nowadays, any shenanigans?
>>97314228>It could be a thought size effect on a 2 mana dudeAhh a Goblin Mesmeric Fiend/Brain Maggot/Freebooter/Deep-Cavern Bat, I could see it.
>>97314252Its a 1 of for that zoo deck, with the 5 color enchantment pregame
>>97314281I love you, but Modern legal....
>>97314258>>97314273>>97314283Why did you make three separate replies to the same post?
>still 4CMC with the MH2 elementalsDamn this set power level is trash
>>97314293I smell some bullshit brewing
>>97314302too bad standard is a turn 4 format, this could've been fun
>>97314281Sorry, nah I get it, I hope he gets tools for what he wants, I really don't care particularly much, they get pissed off cause I play amulet titan and half the store has gotten into main decking hate vs me, I still win, and then I show up on a different deck, they get rolled, but I have so much to learn. I've beaten 5 former world champions, but that doesn't mean anything because every year we get new ones.
>>97314292Do you want the real answer?
>>97314326Nta but I do
>>97314277>any shenanigans?It's for Vivid cards.
>>97314333I don't know what nta means, but I can't argue with your digits.Let me explain, so its spoiler season, I had 3 distinct different reactions because I had to think from 3 points of view, initial first thought, then more thoughts and then more thoughts, I wish I could go back and reread my post, but I have a woman who's interested in learning about Shibari, so she's got my attention for the moment, but, im sorry, maybe I play too many decks, but this broad is literally going to let me tie her up and do everything I say. Look I'm not going to fuck her while we're tied up, and ill do everything to out safety first, but yeah magic cards are great. I like blue the most
>>97314198We had this exact card in Avatar except it also scries. Pretty obvious which sets they try to raise the power level of
>>97314437Scrye is under rated, but at the Avatar pre-release my promo was the stupid planetarium, and i lost a modern marxh on Amulet Titan to a dude playing blue Tron jank with 4 planetarium and like 8 nexus of fate and time warps, he got fucked by the energy decks main deck 2 blood moons, but it was fun
>>97312722You probably don't play paper, arenafag
>>97314437>>97314469I went 3-0 6-0 i had planetarium, I had wan shi tong, which never was played in any of those 6 games, but the 4 mana flash 4/4 that draws cards, people attack and I just use him as a body to absorb or just trade. The rest of that was using the artifact boomerang, and sticking it on guys with vigilance, so attack then tap down blocks and bounce to hand, recast and put it on the other vigilance creaturem, I loved that pre release because the store ran out of certain boxes, but I walked up and rolled a die, and I got the blue box which was what I wanted the whole time.
>>97314407I think you should try to synthetize your "stream of consciousness" when posting
>>97314475No wait, my memory is vivid. I did see owl bro off of a scrye and I had the other WWX male ally tokens on the same fucking scry and I just played owl as a 1/1 and left the other card on top to draw., but that planetarium with the scry 2, it runs away in limited, and I can't believe I was playing MTGO and it passed to me in a draft. The card literally fits inside anything in limited.
>>97314482Synthesize? Like tasting colors and shit? That would be so stressful
>>97314487No as in write it all first then organize it in something more coherent that doesn't end up in a tangent about bdsm?
>>97314482Im pretty sure I understand what you're trying to say, that whole humbleness, but that invokes silence... I literally am too insecure and need to find reassurance through from the community. I understand you want me to be our champion, and our champion is a man of silence, humble and loveable, like a fuxking what was his name who went on to own a hedge fund? Fuck I beat him twice, and one of his employees bought me tequila.... she was on vacation damn, she was way older than me, she didn't want to let me hit it and quit it, but she worked for a hall of famer... fuck I forgot his name. This is embarrassing, I think its good that at least im here owning my unknown and not looking it up... wait it was finkle, I beat other world champions, but finkle In a vintage game was the first. I was probably 15 years old. 10 years later im at a bar, and watching football and this woman says her boss was a former world champion of magic, and I actually called him out and she bought me a shot of the highest grade tequila literally like 50 dollars for one shot, could have been more
>>97314502Man fuck you, I can't even start talking about out swamps without a bdsm thing, like you just have to force all that out, people are delusional and crazy, but I promise in my fuck, im 37 ill be 38, ive been playing the game for 30 fucking years. I dunno i want to actually become a champion, last time I qualified for a big event, I actually crashed a wedding party in the hotel, at one moment 3 girls placed their wedding rings in my hand to compare them all, and I fucked the 4th girl who didn't have a ring, but she was the brides sister.... I slept in her hotel room, and I didn't shower so my hand smelt like her ass, which smelt like shit, I got 0 hours of sleep and had to handwriting out my deck list, to avoid bullshit. I was on 5 color control, I had 32 land, 3 cruel commands, 4 cryptic commands, 4 wrath of gods, o want to say it was creatureless, but I had nucklavee for an infinite loop, and nicol bolts planeswalker... the only reason for green was kitchen finks.I went 2-2-1 and dropped
>>97314555Have you taken anything that might alter your mind?
when the trip fag schizo gets banned? and why always trip users are also mentally ill individuals?
>>97314568I drink more than you spill, done shrooms, acid, never the mdma or those, mostly just pain killer barbituates, its probably a miracle I am alive, I have tested in the comatose level of blood alcohol concentration fucking too many times... I kinda drink like a whole .75 Liter minimum, but I always drink more than that. I forgot what was the question again. I don't want to hurt our opportunity for the new Shibari photos
>>97314568Oh shit, I took the red pill. The best sideboard magic cards are green, green literally does everything
>>97314592Maybe you should not be tiying people up in a state where you could pass out at any times. Or at least focus fully on your "art" instead of posting
This card costs 2 cards, and destroys up to 2 cards. It might be the greatest free spells made.
>>97314604I hope this glowey is more entertaining than me.
>>97314604Oh dude, we were just talking about doing that, you're literally so far behind, and im trying to show why green has the best side board cards. I misunderstood your previous post, but safety is always the most important thing, trust is important too.
Okay so these are 2 fuckers.
So you must be thinking, how does green answer a large creature, but thats what we do, we use the big ass creatures, they're on greens side, im just trying to resolve primeval titan, and I have been b& from their private discord actually 2 times. The second time was funny because I got access to all the inter parts, but then dickhead just kicked me for no reason other than recognizing he had kicked me, but while I got 0 actual talk, I got a chip on my shoulder and it turns out amulet titan is actually very difficult to pilot. However I stuck with it, and I fucking can say I can play the deck better than my opponent and id my opponent and I in a mirror match, I can win.
Its not often you can poke everyone who loves a deck and tell them they're wrong, but that whole channel was arguing about using explore or the grave digger, and i was always on team 4 copies of green sun zenith with the bard as a 9th amulet effect. They b*& me for screaming truth, the results from Vegas, show, but the amount of energy to do something flawless is hard, but good luck everyone
>>97314701Lov u to anon
>>97314701>muh stonks>dog piss gurus>gay bravado>spamming the thread nonstopEven if you aren't larping, just more proof money doesn't stop you from being a little bitch
Once again a tripfag ruins a thread
It's very easy to filter out tripcode, anon.
>so far this is the only common from the set that could see play in paupergrim
>>97314964That blue convoke draw spell is gonna slot really nicely into UW familiars.
>>97314966meeting of the minds is easier to cast even if it draws you one less card but you're rightI want some good red gobbos and maybe some white card that makes weenies better
>>97314721Proof of what again? You got something I've never seen before?
>>97314721Im willing to bet this guy ia from a single parent home and even worse he's black.
>>97314267>old thing weakthree decades of powercreeping the previous year's creatures will do that
>>97314964>you can now run 8-cache grabsweet
>>97315044>nig nogs: MUH DICK!!>kikes: MUH MONEY you just outed yourself shlomo.but i do have a question, since you "make" 18k a week wtf are you doing on a bolivian basket weaving forum?anyways, neck yourself
>>97314964Imagine being that one anon who wanted a 1/2 faerie for U
>>97313657Managed to pre-order for $320 at my lgs
>>97315104I'm here and I'm unhappy with the spoilerGlamer Gifter would go hard but is uncommon unfortunately
>>97314964It is insane how good Malevolent Rumble is and it has ruined any chance of "similar" cards being interesting.
I wonder if it would be any fun with this as a Commander.Maybe a deck full of big guys who's negative effects I'd want to remove, with the alternate option of wanting to just have it turn my opponent's best effects off.
>>97315104I think we'll get something but ffs faeries is already strong
>>97315167>owl aven>is deaf>a bird which most of its physiology is about hearing is DEAFcongratulations, WotC!
>>97315185*lava darts your fearie*
>>97315202But Anon, didn’t you know? This is a world of magic where nothing has to be the same as things are in real life. That means you can just give any characters whatever traits you want and people aren’t allowed to complain about it.
>>97315202Not only that but they clearly didn't do their research on this one because a device that allows a deaf person to "hear" like that would largely be disdained by the deaf community. Just another example of making something worse when you are trying to force virtue signaling.
Hey is MTG currently fun? I heard some bad things about all the crossover stuff, something about some of it being pretty low quality I dunnoI used to play arena and had a good time and I even looked into playing it in actual hands on paper format but I started playing yugioh instead and it was fun but it started sucking more and more so I quit, now I'm back to wondering about MTG again
>>97315202>human man>is blind>a primate which most of its physiology is about sight is BLINDcongratulations, Marvel!
>>97315262>because a device that allows a deaf person to "hear" like that would largely be disdained by the deaf community.??????because deaf people would never want to use devices or machines to try to hear, right? dumbass.
>>97315276I thought it was about thumbs?
>>97315269the standard format is really bad imothe eternal formats are good if you find a deck you really like playing, I'm playing cycling storm in pauper and I'm having a good timeunfortunately there is no pauper on arena so my advice to you is to stick with ygo at the moment, it can't be worse than current mtg standard
>>97315281Anon if they put on the device they can hear things ... that means they are not part of the deaf community anymore. See the issue?
>>97315282surely not a brain...
>>97315283Meh no I don't have the patience for yugioh anymore, they realized that people will pay for powercreep so I don't really see a future for that game, everything is too powerful and the new artstyle is always so lame, I'd rather stay away and look elsewhere.I'd play Arena but honestly it's kind of weird and lifeless, they could at least have some cool animations like hearthstone, even yugioh masterduel has some cool little things here and there.Anyways back to cardboard games, what's wrong with MTG's standard? Explain in broad terms please since I don't really know much about magic, I did play arena but I never engaged with the game online to learn more about magic in general or the metagame and whatnot.
>>97315283>>97315303Oh yeah just to clarify, by patience I don't mean game-mechanics patience like letting people do combos or whatever, patience in the sense of "just one more banlist will fix it bro" cope waiting. Fuck that.
>>97315281>because deaf people would never want to use devices or machines to try to hear, right?Some of them really don't, they've embraced being deaf as integral part of their identity and don't want to have it taken away from them. Because some people value being special more than being fully functional.Hearing aids for the elderly is another matter, that's people who've spent most of their life being able to hear who will usually want to maintain that ability, with mechanical aids when necesary.
>>97315297t. dolphin
>>97315238>spellstutter sprite>counterspell>hydroblast>blue elemental blast>play another 1/1 flying shitterthing is that monoblue has tons of answers to spot removal that the most effective strategy against it is playing reach blockers with a fat ass so they can block even the ninjas on ground and there's not that many good ones available
>>97315312This. The "born deaf" community is borderline crazy and they will actively shun anyone who makes strides to hear. It makes no sense at all.
>>97315303>what's wrong with MTG's standard? Explain in broad terms please since I don't really know much about magicbasically this>they realized that people will pay for powercreep so I don't really see a future for that game, everything is too powerful and the new artstyle is always so lamewe used to have a 2 year standard rotation with 3~4 sets every year, so the smallest standard was like 5 sets and the biggest standard was 8 or 9now we have a 3 year standard rotation with 6~7 sets, so the smallest standard can be is around 14~15 sets and the biggest is up to 20+ setsfactor in that every new set introduces at least 3~4 game breaking cards thanks to powercreep and we're in a constant state where the format would need like 20+ bans for the overall power level to drop, not even considering the constant new setstl;drstandard is the format people played because they didn't want to deal with years worth of powercreep but now it's the format where powercreep feels the most egregious
>>97315344They must be deeply religious people who embrace their God ordained suffering.
>>97315358Is the powercreep at least sometimes cool or is it niggercancer like yugioh's "for cost, draw 2 cards" or "this deck builds it's board on your draw phase" ?
>>97315364It's like high functioning autism, it has become a sort of defining trait for people.
>>97315269Not really. The game has become a spending simulator with really, really low quality releases happening constantly (7 sets this year) and the quality has taken a massive nosedive in the recent years. WotC is not balancing the formats at all and if a format is okay, it's merely that things worked out rather than WotC having planned any of that. Tournament attendance is lower than ever as the game has been mainly relegated to commander play. If you want to play commander, I guess it's good in that case as every release is now cathered to commander
>>97315328>1 for 1 answer to a 2-for-1 threatLava fart ultracucks fae nigga.Do I trust you, shitter-cuck, the memedern "player" or my actual game expertise, experience and the opinion of pilots like Skura??
>>97315328You lava dart the turn 1 drop and just take all the wind out of the sails of the faerie player while you do your own gameplan no problem. And if he has another 1/1 you just lavadart that with the same fucking lava dart.I don't have mana for spellstutter sprite in your turn 1.
>>97315408You forgot>Counter lava dart>They play it for free again because lol sac a mountain in monoR aggro>If mid/late it also pings you for 2+ damage on each cast
>>97315372it's hard to translate in ygo terms but basically we either get a self-contained package that's absurdly efficient and dictates how games are played or we get a synergy piece that once paired with other stuff results in absurd, unanswerable boardsI suppose some people could find enjoyment in playing that, but like, 3 or 6 months from now, all of the cards that enable these will either be banned or powercrept
>>97315372There's nothing comparable to Yugioh because there is no mana cost in Yugioh, so anything dumb there is just infinitely more annoying and/or degenerate. The closest to those annoying things in Magic are non deterministic infinite combos like the recent version of Amulet Titan or prebanned Nadu combo.The powercreep in mtg however cause a lot of old design philosophies to fall out of the window. Aside from things costing mana, there used to be plenty of other costs in mtg. There's tap as a cost, there's the fact that most engines can't enable themselves, there's also a tempo/card advantage cost in playing things and interacting with things. A lot of these are completely absent in even the least powerful format now (standard).>value engines all enable themselves, most recent example is the Badgermole Cub >cards like Nadu and Vivi intentionally designed to bypass traditional costs (like tapping)>most creatures and enchantments now have some ETB that draw a card or leave a body, making sideboard removals completely worthlessThe thing is if Yugioh feels like a solitaire game, then current Magic is a solitaire game with some basic mana facade. Most decks in standard don't care much about opponent, they just run their own gameplan. Game ends on turn 4: even reaminator (which is a weak archetype in standard) can reanimate a full board of demons with a 4cmc spiderman reanimator that enables ETB trigger.
>>97312657wrong the blue one is an instant which is way better especially with convoke
>>97313775So its a one time heralds horn? Absolute shit.
>>97315424>>97315400>>97315435>it's hard to translate in ygo terms but basically we either get a self-contained package that's absurdly efficient and dictates how games are played or we get a synergy piece that once paired with other stuff results in absurd, unanswerable boards>cards that break the rules and go plus for "cost" or other stupid shit like that (as per 97315435)It's not hard to translate at all that's just yugioh does it too. Blech.I guess I'll look around a bit and maybe watch people play before I decide to spend money on cardboard, if it at least looks interesting I'll give it a try, if it gives me yugioh vibes I'll know better. Thanks for all the information, people.
say hello to Oko's "little" friend
>>97311131>Sneak Attack but with the entire purpose of the card invalidatedWhy?
>>97315577>one timeAs it enters AND AT THE BEGINNING OF YOUR UPKEEP, so, no. It also lets you drop the card into your graveyard if you don't want it, so it's just better all around.
>>97315764sneak attack in standard bad, so you get bad sneak attack
>>97315768Reading is key, I'm a tard.
>>97315662>Jotc artists constantly depict Oko as a shirtless 12pack abs gook twink splayed out in a faggoty sexualized pose>Ashling had “her” tits removed and threw on leather pants and pirate bootsWhy does JOTC hate women?
>>97315784objectification only swings one way, bigot
>>97315784>threw on leather pants and pirate boots???
>>97315826
>>97315784>>97315818
>>97315836>>97315826Based, total feetfag death.
>>97311043It looks like they're trying to tone down the power after a string of crazy OP standard formats. That's okay. I'm mainly interested in the possible printing of enemy color Amonkhet cycling lands.
>>97315836You literally can't even tell that's supposed to be female. Not that the original was a megababe, but they're really going all in on erasing femininity.
>>97315784The fags outnumber the autists
>>97315898as both of those things, this post doesn't represent me
>>97315850>he already forgot Morcant
>>97315931I'm a hoofieschad
>>97315873This is what I mean. If you erased the name and text box on the card and showed someone with even a slight knowledge of Lorwyn, they wouldn’t be able to tell that this is Ashling and not some male elemental
Man I really miss the old Lorwyn art.
I look around this thread, and all I see are faggots. Especially you, anon
>>97315836>head shape doesn't match, despite being broadly consistent across multiple sets and artists on all of her other cards (including Prerogative and the Extinguisher)>outfit doesn't match, when it has again been broadly consistent across all of her other cards>don't know what the fuck is going on with those armsThis was absolutely commissioned as a different character and someone last-minute decided it should be Ashling.
>>97315984This is just par for the course when you "have" to pump out 6+ sets a year. QA suffers, art suffers, editing and testing suffer...
>>97315836>>97315984Completely forgot: the commander card also doesn't have the white markings that are consistent across her appearances.
>>97316002>Top 2 images, she has tits>bottom new 2, she’s flat as a boardLoot has stolen more boobs it seems
>>97315959>and not some male elementalWell, no, it clearly isn't a male flamekin. They have a ridiculous shoulder to waist ratio.
>>97314472I stopped playing paper years ago, yes
>>97316041>it clearly isn’t maleIt clearly isn’t female, for one thing. They made it look like some random guy, not the feminine and tits-having Ashling
>>97316002The bottom elementals are all males. Nice to see suntail hawk making a cameo
>>97316147Elementals, like you, are sexless, despite what JOTC might try to make you believe for idpol reasons.
>>97315978God she is so sexy
>>97316132>>97316147>all women must have cow titsFlat is justice, you goddamn Philistines.
>>97316185fpbp
>>97315873I always considered the og to be super attractive and gorgeous. All those years later, that didnt change much really
Where is my FIRE Noza Chaser wizards
>>97316215I actually prefer the MH3 art, but it has the distinct advantage of not being Wayne Reynolds.
>>97316259We're getting a cycle, R will probably be elemental, U could be merfolk or faerie.
>>97316259Too based to be reprinted.Im still waiting for Noggles and Duergar.
>>97316322>behold and exilewhy just not use champion instead?
What's the logic behind WOTC saying that the untap symbol is "ooooh so complicated lets never reprint it"? It seems like the most basic shit ever, specially compared to mechanics like morph or mutate.
>>97316332Behold lets you use a creature from your hand.
>>97316340or just make it into a single new mechanic instead of this clunky messjust like eerie was constellation but for rooms, and void was for revolt
>>97316338it's because it's broken with the "has activates ability of other cards" bullshit they love to print
>>97316356>more keywords!no thanks
>>97316365it's all kicker or horsemanship in the end
>>97316356They did, it's called behold.
mtg has legal lotr and marvel sets now?
>leaves booze as coping mechanism>becomes a tranny fucker>goes to brazilthe pipeline is real
>mtg has legal lotr and marvel sets now?
>>97316394behold just makes you reveal things, not exile them
>>97316413Yes, and they combined that with the exile thing. We don't need brand new keywords for every single mechanic, they're probably only doing this cycle. Behold is more flexible and it seems like they're going to be using it more often.
patrick when is resleevables planeshift coming out
>>97316436it hasn't stopped WotC beforewhy stop now?
Went through the new video, this is the only card I don't think got leaked.
>>97316259
>>97316449>they made mistakes before>they should continue to make those same mistakesno fuck off, we don't need more epics and sweeps
>>97316456>GSZ but for tribal instead of greenthanks I hate it
>character in meditative pose>"mystic">has a prowess style ability>type line is "wizard" instead of monk (or even mystic)Fuck you wizards
>>97316474add more pointless mechanics!add more senseless types and tribes!add more slop!MORE!
>>97316456Now THATS what I call music
>apparently wotc finally learned that the reason mmq did poorly was because it sucked, not because of the lack of keywordsonly took 25 years
this set sucks ass man. i was waiting for something more interesting than this shit.
>>97316458They turned her into a tranny and designed her for commander. Most pozzed card of the set so far.
>>97316520like UB?
>>97316520Every set nowadays sucks because they are just rushing them out and they lack any ability to make interesting and coherrent sets. It's just a bunch of commanderslop and repetitive designs that appeal to the lowest common denominator. I honestly can't remember the last set that amazed me
Turtle in every pack.
>>97316573
>>97316573People just dont know how grim this shit will become after Lorwyn. They are crying for interesting mechanics but they will be crying for a whole different thing when they see Donatello and She-Hulk cards become real.
>>97314198They should have made the Lorwyn merfolk white and the shadowmoor one blue if they absolutely wanted them to be UW. It would also made more sense since in the original blocks Lorwyn merfolks were UW and Shadowmoor merfolks were UB
>>97316456Isn't this kinda bad? Cord of Calling, but it tutors to hand it you're not playing elfs
>>97316600Even if the cub is banned, there’s no reason to play this over nature‘s rhythm
>>97316554The last mechanically interesting set was Neo Kamigawa. Honorable mentions to Plot and Warp for being deep mechanics (that were painfully under utilized and in bad sets).
>>97314277>I feel like they never do this nowadaysI made a quick search and I could be wrong but it's the first time this effect was ever printed. You are probably confusing changing the land type with changing its color.
>>97315978>Ew tranny>Surrounded by 3 uglier fat trannies>Looks way cuter by comparisonClever girl
>>97316617Disagree, Bloomburrow mechanically was kino
>>97316620I was talking more changing color in general, specifically for lands.
BRO was the last set i actually enjoyed and felt i was seeing something new.
Is these two color changelings gonna be a full 10 card cycle? I am kind of excited about these for no real reason.
Merfolk & faeries bros...I'm not feeling good...
Friendly reminder that in the past 10 years this game has been carefully tuned and tailored to piss off the chuds first and squeeze money out of this specific demographic who doesn't even play the game, it just consooms (troons despite a few exceptions of very wealthy pampered fucks don't have that much money).Pigs eat slop.
>>97316674I think it's just a 5 card cycle, for the secondary pairs in the set (WB, UB, UG, RG, RW). We're getting the specific tribe for the primary ones.
>>97314747seems like the drugs (or lack thereof) wore off around 5a EST
>>97316456>Dragon sex on card artGay bolas anon's influence is too powerful.
>>97316712That would make sense. Weird boggart in your post by the way. This visual redesign isn't sitting right with me.
>>97316712Blight seems primed to trigger some "infinite" combos - things that ETB and kill off other creatures with -1/-1 seems exploitable.
>>97316627Nigga 80% of it was literally just tribal + Ravnica
Was this the one people were speculating was Jace and Vraska's kid?
Here's your 2 mana 4/5 in blue that turns blight into card advantage.
>>97316957I really dispise Strixgarbage.
>>97316957>that flavourbeen there, done that
>>97316997Does this stop people from blighting as a cost?
>>97316957>Tamshe's even named after her auntie
>>97316957where do you impregnate a gorgon?
>>97317026Ask Jace. He had a mutant with her gorgon waifu.
>>97317026>>97317036They specifically mentioned in one story that he and Vraska had been trying for a kid but were incompatible, so it's either a retcon, some alt timeline shit, or not actually their kid.
>>97316957She's obviously not a biological child, but she refers to a mysterious "teacher" who has advised her to go to great lengths to keep other people from detecting him in her mind. Pretty sure she's the first thing Jace created in his Reality Fracture state.
>>97311131
>>97312381The only time anyone liked any of these extra mechanics that you now have to keep track of for the rest of the game was monarch and that's because it's extremely simple
>>97317055
>>97316957fuck the lore shit, this is an easily splashable 2 mana giver of runes in standard
>>97317026Shoot fat ropes in her snussy ez
>>97317008If this card had come out this year with this art people would crucify John Avon for using AI.
>>97317026
>>97317096the fact that it doesn't make practical sense is the whole point of the artit's everything and nothing at the same timebut you are right, people would complain regardless
>>97311955Goes great in my Slivers deck!
>>97317079i don't like monarch
>>97317140You're right, I LOVE IT
>>97317140even at this point, I don't yet know what monarch is, and I'm too afraid to ask
>>97317079I liked how the ring tempting played with karakas, but the mechanic itself was not great.
>>97317156
>>97317166how does one first become the monarch?it relies only on card effects?
>>97317156you should play a real format then
>>97317194yeah, a card (such as Palace Jailer or Forth Eorlingas!) needs to introduce the monarch into the game. Once it's in, it's in until the game ends.
>>97317206I see...
>>97317022Well her full name is Tamira, though it could well be named after Tamiyo in part, Jace was at least friendly with her.
Is Loot jealous Jace and Vraska have a real daughter? Or at least one that looks like them.
>>97317254Yeah loot will eat her.
Sad elf boy makes worms.
they're even half assing the hooves
>>97317254Loot will be the catalyst for Tam turning against Jace which will in part cause him to realise the error of his ways and sacrifice himself/his powers to fix things or some shit I dunno.
>>97317261
>>97317266Lorwyn's elves have always had kinda fucky feet-hooves going on. Sometimes they were full-hooved, sometimes they were half-and-half.
>>97317254Loot will steal his breasts or kill her in the end.You can't trust that small ball of fur, he is a psycho.
This'll probably be a staple Standard removal.
>>97317016Yeah
>>97317283oh hey it's slightly better balanced fatal push
>>97317283The blight cost should allow you to kill a permanent with mana value 4 or less.
>>97317090>in the same set as the mechanic that makes untargeting -1/-1 countersStill a good card with lots of uses but damn
>>97317283>destroy with condition being mana cost>-1/-1 counter that gets around hexproof or shroud or ward>gain 2 lifeThis is nuts
>>97317218 also by dealing combat damage to the current monarch, you become the monarch
>>97317325Read the card again, anon
Premodern status: FLOURISHING!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFvqkdAlOYEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4FqElKy-xs
>>97317325except you put the -1/-1 counter on a creature YOU control
>>97317340I played a game of premodern a day or two ago. It was fun. I forgot how simple the game used to be.
>>97317340We have reached peak FotM, now we will witness the fall
>>97317261>>97317269I clapped when I saw the reference!!
>>97317305Blight is usually only on things you control so they don't really interact (and when you force an opponent they usually have free choice).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFvqkdAlOYEpre-modern bros our shilling has paid off!
>>97317340>>97317392speculators are already attacking the format
How long until WotC controls Premodern too?
putting it on mtgo was the first step clearly
>Premodern will be UB polluted soonNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLET MY BRAZILIAN PASTURES ALONE!!!!!
>>97317424>>97317427premodern horizons in 2028
do they expand the card pool for premodern? i thought it was like ygo's timewizard format
>>97316634literally the only interesting scarecrow
>>97317424WotC won't need to do anything. We can look to Edison format for precedent where the novelty of the format wears off and most players will get bored of playing a static format. The only people left will be a handful of superautists that render the format inaccessible to anyone else.
>>97317533Trust me, we are already there.
>>97317533Just two more weeks!
>>97317502no but they can make a spongebob print of whatever card
>>97317533>Edison formatNever heard of that, premodern has existed for many years already, the fact that it has good art, fun gameplay and a large variety of decks that don't rotate, unironically make it have the spot that modern had 10 years ago.
>>97317564>Large variety of decks that don't rotate>Modern>At any pointYou can stop larping now pablo
>>97317423It's a format that embraces proxies at least
>>97317502they just rotate it by changing the ban list
>>97317569Yes, you could chose among 60 completely different decks and still win 1k+ players tournaments, I know you have never played modern when it was good.
Whenever possible, I play UB reprints of cards in premodern, and only use basics from UB sets.
>>97312338construct or thopter
>>97317716you will burn in hell, where you belong, before that happens, pig.
>>97317772But it's already happening, he told you so.
>>97317547>>97317547>>97317547
>>97317436>all premodern staples will get only UB reprints so they are the most affordable onesit's.. beautiful
>>97313280>if we think about it as giving your creatures a mana ability.Yes but that isn't what it is, so we're not going to do that.
