This is a general for OSR, seperate from /osrg/, where you CAN talk about AD&D 2e, retroclones & other general OSR. This general exists (and is seperate from /osrg/) due to trolling on /osrg/ making discussion impossible.Previous thread>>97301927Thread Question: Favorite type of Fiend?
I think I like Hezrou as my favorite fiends.Big stinky frogs that hit like trucks. I think most people coming in from newer editions just aren't ready for demons that are actually scary, and something about Hezrous helps wake them up pretty quickly.
>>97320024Trolling, real new thread is here:>>97315519>>97315519>>97315519and has been up for hours, jannies please remove this hijack attempt
>>97320024>Thread Question: Favorite type of Fiend?Succ.They suck in every game though.Hate using them, hate seeing them, still my favorite though.In a game almost a decade ago, some completely random succubus just appeared out of nowhere in the middle of this big battle and started energy draining our mage, and everything went to shit after that for the whole rest of the adventure because he became useless.
>>97320064Hezrou need something to make them more special. I always confuse them with Slaads.
>>97320150More detail required, like why did the DM do that and why did all of you keep playing?
I'm happy Stranger Things is done.My DM expected everyone to watch it and would drop references to the show during games like they were some kind of reward.
>>97320024for what fucking purpose?
>>97320212It was a battle against some cultists in an underground temple, and we had gone in from some side way we thought was secret. We start fighting, advancing away from that side entrance with the mage way behind, and then a succubus just comes in from behind the mage and hits him with charm.We all fucked up. We should have immediately turned back to rescue the mage, but we were still fighting the cultists, and the succ got four levels off him with kiss suggestions before we could kill her.We didn't really understand how bad things were until the mage player explained what his character had lost and how the succ had basically killed him.
>>97320024Ooh sexy mari lithi step on me dommy mommy.
>>97320158It's weird because I always described them with demon horns because that's how my first DM described them to me, and it was only way way later that I found out they didn't have them.
>>97320335Just report this thread and move on. This is some sort of bizarre metatroll, the other thread is the successor.
>>97320375Ouch. Glad there was an element of 'we could have done better' and it wasn't 'bad DM did it because bad DM and there was nothing we could have done' scenario I had in my head.
I tried scoring with my guys.Not really our style, but still pretty interesting and changed things up a few notches.Tried running them through The Hidden Shrine of Tamoachan, and we only got through a few rooms and they had a negative score (i didn't tell them that yet), but they wanted to continue.
>>97320024I fucking love Mariliths. I particularly love it when they have HIndu styling to them.>>97320523>bargaining with crab +1>believing crab -1 And people try and tell me D&D isn't serious business.
>>97320375Succubi can fly and go ethereal. You could have gotten ambushed at an even worse time and someone could have been drained to death. You guys got lucky.
>>97320581>serious businessYou'd actually be surprised by serious a whole table gets when they understand every action (well not really, but they don't know that) they make is being graded and assigned points.
>Thread Question: Favorite type of Fiend?Remember the old days when there were two types of fiend: Pit fiends and Asmodeus? In 2e there may be just one type because Asmodeus was no longer called a fiend. All the rest were called devils or demons.Until Planescape.Calling the evil outer planar/lower planes monsters collectively fiends is very Planescape. I didn't much like Planescape. I've heard tales of people whose motivation was>Let's play Planescape and take on the Lady of PainI hope those are fake. You do have to make a campaign your own which you can't do by following the setting book to the letter but that idea is possibly even worse than the Darksun's early metaplot.Anyone know of earlier references to "fiendish planes" than Planescape so I can shake my fist at more and older clouds?
>>97320375>the mage player explained what his character had lost and how the succ had basically killed him.Yeah but he got dem smoochums.
>>97320667>Anyone know of earlier references to "fiendish planes" than Planescape so I can shake my fist at more and older clouds?Manual of the Planes from 1e?
>>97320667>Remember the old days when there were two types of fiend: Pit fiends and Asmodeus?I remember a whole folio of fiends.
>>97320667>I hope those are fake.They kind of have to be, since the Lady of Pain is not statted like killable gods.>I didn't much like PlanescapeI have a hard time figuring out my own feelings for it.Planescape lore is something I dove headfirst into before I really had the ability to differentiate what good/bad lore even was, and with how the different D&D settings blurred in and out of it, it's sometimes really tricky to figure out where the good or bad ideas even originated from, making it that much harder to assess Planescape by itself.I think I hate Sigil. But, I love the planes, and Planescape really helped expand their lore dramatically and predominantly in ways I agreed with.
>>97320676A folio which contained the most dreaded fiend of all.
Not every fiend is top shelf.
>>97320150Succubi are plebian. Erinyes are for conoissoeurs.
>>97320676I thought about that and deleted my line about "Fiend Folio doesn't count" but still you got a kek you clever little devil.>>97320673I had a quick look before I posted but I didn't see it. Because you suggested I had a longer look. The only fiend I found was a note to look in Fiend Folio. The Nine Hells inhabitants are "devilish" and "devilkind", and Abyss beings are "demonic". There may be more fiends out there, but it'll have to be found by someone other than me running their finger along a piece of paper and having to turn pages.Did have fun rediscovering the controversial line I had forgotten for at least six months>As Takhisis in the world of Kyrnn, Tiamat has never let her followers know that there are other arch-devils or that there is a Nine Hells at all.I still like my Takhisis to be separate from my Tiamat even if one is obviously just a reskin.
Cool news from Autarch, Anons! Can't wait to pirate it when it comes out.Blog post: https://arbiterofworlds.substack.com/p/announcing-annals-of-the-auran-empireBackerkit link:https://www.backerkit.com/call_to_action/8b8be898-82a5-4dc9-868d-aa9a9b449f6e/landingHere's the blurb from the blog:> Announcing Annals of the Auran Empire>I hope that everyone had a splendid New Year's Day and is looking forward to a prosperous 2026. Here at Autarch, it's only been a week, and it feels like a month has already passed.> Celebrating the 20th Anniversary of the Auran Empire The Auran Empire is best known as the default setting of ACKS and ACKS II, but it’s more than that - it’s my own personal campaign setting, one that I’ve used to run BX, D&D 3.5E, and even RuneQuest, in campaigns that long predate ACKS.>As it happens, today marks the 20th anniversary of the creation of the Auran Empire, with my earliest files dating to January 6, 2006! To celebrate this milestone, I’m delighted to announce a major new project: Annals of the Auran Empire!>Autarch’s new anthology Annals of the Auran Empire brings together an extraordinary roster of fantasy authors to explore the Auran Empire’s dangers, dungeons, and doomed champions.>Leading the anthology is Nebula Award finalist John C. Wright, whose tale “Shadowblade” unfolds in the kingdom of Rorn during the dark days following the death of Arëtar Pendaelen. More authors will be revealed in the weeks ahead.>Crowdfunding launches Spring 2026. Follow now to be first in line and unlock an exclusive preview of Chapter 1 of Wright’s story before anyone else.
>>97320150Succubuses (succubi?) are great! I can't find them in the ACKS II Monstrous Manual though, were they renamed or just not ported?
>>97320158>Hezrou need something to make them more special.You could use the ACKS II Monstrous Manual rules for Cacodemons, they are very elegant. Just roll on this table.
>>973200242e isn't OSR though? Gygax openly.opppsed the system
>>97320158>>97321073Part 2 of the table
>>97320024>Thread Question: Favorite type of Fiend?Definitely Arachnine Cacodemones from ACKS II
>>97320385I think ACKS II Piskies are sexier.
>>97320406>I always described them with demon hornsThat's such an interesting take, thank you for contributing to the discussion with these very thoughtful comments. This'll help me run my games better.
>>97320581>I fucking love Mariliths.Mariliths are so cool! I love them too. Thank you for this comment, this'll help amp up my game.
>>97320600>Succubi can fly and go ethereal.True. And they have 6 HD.
>>97320845>Succubi are plebian. Erinyes are for conoissoeurs.Indeed! Thanks for saying this. I'm loving this organic discussion about games.
>>97321075Correct, 2e is not OSR. So let's talk about on-topic games. ACKS, for example.
>>97320845>plebianfishfag ESL retard confirmed
>>97320845>Succubi are plebian. Erinyes are for conoissoeurs.Humanoid Cacodemons are for Aristocats
>>97321116>AristocatsLMAOwho's the ESL retard now, trollcow?
>>97321119In my defence, "aristocats" was obviously a typo, while "plebian" is obviously being unable to spell English and taking the word from your third world language, fishfag.
>>97320110It was archived! YEAH! Long live the fishfag thread. We're going to have tons of fun here. I love FREE discussion.
>>97320724>They kind of have to beI hope you're right but I've heard a few podcasts by people who are very narrativist-heavy playing 5e and have been into the modern version of planescape. I know nothing about 5e Planescape, not even if there has been a release for it, but I'm sure a little fact like her supposed to be an unstatted inscrutable mystery will not stop these people out there statting and scrutinizing her.As much as I din't really like Planescape I kind of liked Sigil itself as a big city. I didn't like the ease with which it could slide into a Sliders like location of the week affair. It was up to the DM whether or not you could get a key but unless you're going to be using Sigil for its ease of access to new locations then I reckon you had to be doing some politicking with the factions.Agree with you about expanding the planes. What as it you particularly liked if it's anything you can figure out? Was it the factions? Details of cultures and realms to be found in the planes?
>>97321160I'm not too much into Planescape. I think there's too many planes in it. I much prefer the more minimalist approach of ACKS when it comes to planes: Celestial, Elemental, Chthonic, Empyrean, and Outer Darkness. That's more than enough for any campaign.
>>97321066>Succubuses (succubi?)Succubi is the preferred plural but you can use succubuses all you like, just don't mind our sniggering.
>>97321184actually it's succupodes
>>97321182>ElementalForgot to say that there's actually FOUR elemental planes in ACKS: Fire, Water, Air, and Earth.
>>97321185Thank you! Yes both succubuses and succubi sounded a bit off. Good discussion, this'll amp up my game.
>>97321116It seems that she has both thick lines and thin lines. I think I would prefer her if she had only thick lines.I don't think the discussion on thick vs. thin lines from last thread was quite complete, by the way:>>97306654It was such a good food-for-thought discussion bringing together the greatest minds of OSRG.I particularly liked it when somebody suggested medium lines. That was like a Gordian Knot moment.
>>97321185Magical realm foot fetish detected.SLow down there guy. Putting the Greek suffix on the Latin radix is too amped for this board.
>>97321203I summoned her, I'll put her greek suffix on my latin radix all I want.
>>97321199>That was like a Gordian Knot moment.You know that story?The cutting of the Gordian Knot is an Ancient Greek legend associated with Alexander the Great in Gordium in Phrygia, regarding a complex knot that tied an oxcart. Reputedly, whoever could untie it would be destined to rule all of Asia. In 333 BC, Alexander was challenged to untie the knot. Instead of untangling it laboriously as everyone expected, he dramatically cut through it with his sword. This is used as a metaphor for inventing an unexpected method to solve a seemingly intractable problem.It's great that after the Alexander the Great of antiquity we now have a new Alexander the Great of modernity.
>>97321203>Magical realm foot fetish detected.Such a great point! This'll amp up my game.
>>97321207Who's that in the image? I don't recognise them.
>>97321211That's a younger Alexander "The Great" Macris! You might be familiar with this newer image. The younger version doesn't get posted as much because he's too cute and that tends to derail discussion because Anons start simping for him.
>>97321218WOW! I'd definitely let young Alexander ravage me. Let's go back to the topic of games, though, let's not get derailed. What's your favourite ACKS monster?
>>97321220Mine is probably the Draugr. I like him because he's so fat. I've invented this new spell called >Ozempic's Semaglutidethat makes him thin and depressed. It was a bit hard to balance because it's an esoteric spell by the ACKS rules.
>>97321228>>Ozempic's SemaglutideIt took me a moment but I see what you did there.
>>97320110Wait, why did /todd/ get archived and this fake thread stays up? Rare janny fumble
Don't get distracted and keep up the on-topic ACKS posting.
>>97321064reading must be inspiring – you can see the passion of the author and his competence. I cannot even imagine how difficult of a task writing these books was, but I am sure that the author feels satisfied.The art is great too.
>>97321421I can’t see how anyone could rate this book as anything lower than 10/10.
>>97321421>>97321464Agree. ACKS seems to take the classic D&D concept and refine it until it’s perfect.
>>97321588it would be pretty much what was Braunstein as I understand dice were pretty much reserved for situations which were deemed to be determined by luck, for example in a duel between two almost equal opponents,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-zzrWAQcWQ
>>97321671I love Braunstein. The BrOSR have written a book on how to run a Braunstein.
>>97321738>ACKS got banned RedditBased if true.
>>97321741>The BrOSR have written a book on how to run a Braunstein.That have! You can buy it on DTRPG. Best money I've ever spenthttps://www.drivethrurpg.com/en/product/497682/brozer-island-of-war-and-winter
>>97321763I mean "THEY" have, sorry.
>>97321738That's horrible. They're in favour of slavery and their rulebooks have chainmail bikinis. Good that they were banned from reddit.
>>97321747If even the dim-witted people on Reddit were able to recognize ACKS's bad faith brigading, that discord must have been particularly stupid and inept.Imagine if that same idiotic discord came to 4chan, where we're used to anonymous posters as the default, and they thought they'd be able to trick us here. It's almost laughable how obvious and how shitty any of their shilling or samefagging or otherwise bad faith brigading would appear to us here.With ACKS being complete shit, it's serves as a perfect key to any post.Any post in praise of the system? You probably should doubt that post.
>>97321777>their rulebooks have chainmail bikinislmaoNot sure if they're in favour of slavery (based if true), but there sure are chainmail bikinis in ACKS.
>>97321738>ACKS got banned from several RedditsThe BroSR were banned from reddit too.
>>97321811They were? What for?
>>97321747>ACKS got banned Redditholly mother of ESL-retardsno wonder you have no reading comprehension and accuse everyone else of ESL at the first sight of a typo or spelling
>>97321815For violating copyright owned by the Tolkien Estate and New Line Cinema by posting videos such as this one:https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yjwJNhzGvew
>>97321806>seduction rollswelp NuSR confirmed I guess
>>97321822I hate ACKS and "ESL-retards" with a hyphen, because that's how you correctly spell in English if you're first language and not a retard. How do we get rid of ACKS-retards?
>>97321831That's horrible. I hear they're also white supremacists and people who say "fishfag" are BrOSR.
>>97321848>people who say "fishfag" are BrOSRThey are. They make me so sad because fishfag doesn't exist. But enough talking about this off-topic stuff, let's talk about games. Who's your favourite BrOSR character?
>>97321834And a pretty shitty one at that.I do enjoy the kind of losers who'd play a game with dedicated seduction rolls. There's something so... loveless kissless perma-virgin loser about that sort of mechanic.
>>97321849It has to be Macho Mandalf. I mean, he's hilarious. A wizard with 18 strength lmao I wish I could run one. Can I run a wizard with 18 strength in ACKS? Not that I would want to because they've all been banned from reddit.
>>97321860They're literal incels. Even those who have wives.
>>97321867>Can I run a wizard with 18 strength in ACKSYou shouldn't be running ACKS because it's pro-slavery and banned from reddit, but if you really have to, yes, you can create a mage and give him 18 strength.
>>97321870I fucking hate incels. Can you make an incel character in ACKS?
>>97321883I guess you can, you just give him 3 in charisma
>>97321886Wait, there's an incel CHARACTER CLASS in ACKS? Wtf that actually shows they're incels and own slaves. I wonder where the all went after they were banned from reddit.
>>97321894Anon, if you don't like it just don't play it. I'd rather have a system with an incel character class and not use it than have a system without an incel character class.
>>97321789>as soon as he thinks he has cover for it, Fishfag instantly starts seething about ACKS again
>>97321789>Any post in praise of ACKS? You probably should doubt that post.This is so true. For example, I hate the special rules for humanoid tribal traits in ACKS (picrel). I want my humanoids to all be the same. If someone says that they like this rule, they're probably shilling for ACKS.
>>97321918These rules for Dragon special abilities are also complete shit. If somebody says that they have used them in their campaign to create Dragons with unique combinations of powers, you should doubt them.
>>97321928What's the worst are the rules for creating constructs like Golems or Living Statues. Why would you need those? If a player wants to have a Golem just give him a Golem. As long as it fits the story, of course.
It's a good thing that the easiest way to show people how shit ACKS is just to show them the actual rules. It's very much the poster child of "Just because a system has rules for something doesn't mean they're going to be good rules."
>>97321982That's what got them banned from Reddit, 100%.The ACKS discord would say how great the game is, then post pages thinking they were showing it off, and the resounding response was "That's it?"It was from that seed of doubt that everything else started to unravel, because when the praise for a game and the actual quality are so disparate, even the people of Reddit had to start to wonder if shilling was going on.The irony is that if the game had been any good, no one would have thought any brigading was going on at all; but if it had been any good, they wouldn't have had to brigade.
>>97321982So true! Here's another rule I hate: Random magic item table by item rarity. Who would ever need such a thing? You can just keep rerolling on a generic table until you get something of the appropriate power level, or just make it up. Completely useless.
>>97322005And now they're trying the same thing on OSRG-Free.This shows our general has success, because they think that by promoting their stuff here on OSRG-Free they can sell more copies!
>>97322005>>97322014Yeah, OSRG-Free is a great general full of actual people who actually play games. Everybody would want to post here to promote they're stuff. I hear ShadowDark increased its sales 50% for a week after it was mentioned here.
>>97322028>I hear ShadowDark increased its sales 50% for a week after it was mentioned here.Are you crazy? You mentioned ShadowDark on OSRG-Free and now Kelsey Dionne is going to make at least $100,000 in the next four days thanks to the publicity.
>>97320064The original Hezrou art is just plain silly.
>>97322226>The original Hezrou art is just plain silly.Thanks for saying this, this will really amp up my game. I like those thick lines in the drawing, they're good. Good comment.The ACKS Báleygr art is also great. What do you think about it?
>>97322226>Another one liner without any actual contentlmao this thread is a fucking joke
>>97322244Cut him some slack. Fishfag is not only a nogames, but also neurologically incapable of even imagining what playing must be like. This is the best he can do.You should praise him, like we do with retarded children.
>>97322252Okay>>97322226Ooh, well said fishfag! Yes, this image is silly. Sil-ly. You've learnt a new word todaaaaaay! You're such a smart boooy! Clap your hands! Yeeeeeeeeah!!
Trollcow is seeeeething lol.
>>97322263thank you mummy
>>97322267>If I say "trollcow" people will forget I'm fishfag.We've already explained to you why this doesn't work, fishfag.
>>97322267You're supposed to ignore him.>>97322226One thing I hate about certain demons is when they get too literal.Frog-like? Okay. Frog? Too much.Parrot-like heads? Okay. Parrot heads complete with parrot coloration? Too much.
>>97322291Frog demons look like demons. Wow, whodathunk. Another great post with great content showing actual real conversation on this general. Thank you. This'll really amp up my games.
>>97322308lmao you fucking retard I said frog demons lol like frogs lol
>>97322314oh wow this changes everything. if frog demons look like frogs thats like an amazing new discovery. i never thought of that. thank you. thisll amp up my games
>>97322321yes the idea that frog demons look like frogs is an interesting new discovery if i do say so myself
>>97322332fair enough. i mean they couldve made frog demons look like moskitos, but then frogs eat moskitos, so that wouldnt make sense
>>97322338yeah i mean in hindsight its not surprising that frog demons dont look like moskitos. but then again nobody noticed this before. so i thought id bring this up. its like a columbus egg
>>97322291That's all up to the artist though.>ignore himSure, and all. But, he seething.
>>97322291>You're supposed to ignore him.my bad. thank you for your very insightful post, not-fishfag. thisll show them
>all these derailing posts sometimes 4 in a row over and over again by what is obviously 2 anons at mosta good illustration of the parade-brigade having no jobs, no responsibilities, no meaning, and no life apart from malding about other people having fun in their own way>>97322291depends on the tone a frog-demon can be more fitting for a surreal fairytale like setting
>>97322349frogs are in fairytales? i never thought of that. wow. very insightful post, thank you for sharing. thisll amp up my games
>>97322354i think its a reference to fairytales with frogs in them
>>97322360right. good comment. thanks for explaining. your a star
>>97322363keep youre game amped up with thick lines
>>97322349The Toad Prince from the Witcher 3 fits that, since the Witcher setting is one of those odd ones where the line between what people understand to just be fairy tails and what's real are blurred in really cynical fashions.I think a whole bunch of peasant women seeking a prince descending down into the sewers only to be devoured by a giant frog, who is in fact actually a cursed prince, is about as cynical as things get.
>>97322396I never liked the witcher. Too self aware.>>97322349That's what fey monsters and not demons are for.
>>97322007Such a useless bundle of things you can use. Its not like anyone would ever make an entire campaign report about this.
>>97322479The Witcher games are some solid resources for inspiration. You shouldn't grab anything 1:1 from them, but there's enough that can serve as some pretty good inspiration.I replayed some of the DLC a few weeks ago, and filled up half a notebook with interesting ideas that'd work well in my games, most centered around the "Impossible Wish/Deals with the Devil" business that was going on.I have a nice big dungeon stocked full of people who made really bad wishes.
>>97322657I wouldn't pull ideas from Witcher unless heavily modifiedToo recognizable
>>97320024Original creator of the OSRG here.The only way to fix the trolling on /osrg/ is to return to it. I thought initially this separate thread would help, but its only become a place for trolls to admit to coming to just to shit up the conversation.Let this thread slide, and move back into /osrg/. Remind them that a thread is not an echo chamber.
>>97322899>its only becomeHi, fishfag.
>>97322899>Let this thread slide
>>97322899
>>97322899>admitting defeatGood! Wise choice. Now just be prepared to have all your offtopic shit deleted from /osrg/.
>>97322899pwned
>>97322899teehee
>>97322899>its only become a place for trolls to admit to coming to just to shit up the conversation.LMAO what conversation, you dumb no-apostrophe motherfucker? The only non- astroturfed conversation in these threads has been the ACKSbros migrating their talk here to fuck with you, aside from the very occasional successfully trolled noob who mistook this thread for the real general.
Lately I'm having troubles creating adventure sites that feel freshAny good reading recommendations for generation methodologies?Apart from dmg I've also looked into wwn and mythic bastionland, nice ideas but not exactly feeling for them
>>97323066You're asking a nogames thread for reading recommendations? Well you know what, you've probably come to the right place, reading is all this retard does. Problem is, he's bad even at reading that he's unable to understand the rules.
>>97323083>Missed the "Rubys" partlmao there's so many errors the more you look at it the more you find
>>97322899>Let this thread slideNooooo how is our overlord Alexander "The Great" Macris make a living if we don't promote his stuff here? 80% of his income is from Anons who see posts about ACKS on OSRG-Free and decide to buy his books.
>>97323131Why play ACKS2 over something like WWN? I get the appeal of the 1e, but 2e seems pointless.
>>97322899>The only way to fix the trolling on /osrg/ is to return to it. No, that's been tried, and it really doesn't fix anything. I think drawing attention to just how psychotic the trolls are is actually helping things out, and judging by how most people seem to have gotten the warning that the /osrg/ is nothing but troll bumps, this thread is doing its job. Hell, the trolls constantly trying to flood it to show how upset they are only adds to that.The core of the problem is really just a few bad actors, with insane amounts of free time and neurosis. The moderation regarding them really can't continue like this forever, so as long as people just continue to discuss OSR games in these new OSR generals, things will eventually heal. There's also been decent discussion in these threads once you learn the easy trick of ignoring the trolls.Remember: if this has gotten the trolls this furious, that means they're getting desperate. You don't spend ten hours screaming in frustration if everything is going as you planned.
>>97322812I will happily take a gang of cock-hungry sorceresses who want nothing more than quests/their pussies fulfilled and slap them into my games.
>>97323155Anon that is the troll you are replying to
Old /tg/ would have raided that discord and burnt it to the ground...
>>97323155>the /osrg/ is nothing but troll bumps>simultaneously in the real world: /osrg/ is full of insightful conversation about obscure rules, mapping best practices, and recommended modules, while this shithole contains nothing but single-sentence fake "conversation" fodder spewed by a samefag
And yet, this troll would rather spend several hours here, just begging for someone real to pay attention to him even just for an instance...Throwing echo chamber posts between themselves really seems to make them desperate.>>97323214/tg/ never raided. Old /tg/ didn't even have to, because it just had such a good defense against trolls/etc, something built from it starting out with enduring nearly constant raids from /b/. Now, /tg/ is too small and more importantly too divided.
>>97323323Irinically, I think what drove most people away from the /osrg/ wasn't the trolls acting like trolls, it was the trolls trying to act like anyone would care about anything they wanted to say.They have a way of draining all the life out of a game, and a discussion. And that's them trying their hardest to be interesting.It must be awful, being that bland.
>>97323145Interesting question, there's lots to say on the topic, but you seem to be lost. This is a copycat general made by a troll (fishfag) who's been trying to hijack /osrg/ for years. /osrg/ regulars refuse to have serious discussions here, we only shitpost and insult fishfag here.If you ask on the real /osrg/, I and probably other Anons will be happy to answer.
>>97323214lmao at fishfag believing that there's a secret discord dedicated to mocking him
>>97323323>Old /tg/ had such a good defense against trolls/etcIt still does. Look at how thoroughly you are being rekt here.
guys, ive a crazy idea but bear with me. why dont we create a new general with a different name than "osrg" and see if the /osrg/ trolls will leave us alone
>>97323598He doesn't want a thread to discuss things, he wants to make /osrg/ tell him he's right that 2e is OSR, because he has autism
>>97323613His level of autism is appalling.Fishfag's been at this literally for years. Every single day of his life, multiple times a day. All because a game he doesn't even know the rules of is classified differently than he would like to on one general on 4chan.It boggles the mind.
>>97323155>with insane amounts of free time and neurosis.It sometimes feels like adults in online video games having to deal with kids who spend 14 hours a day playing the same game, except while the kids might be developing skills, these neets are just developing autism.
>>97320523Tournament scoring is the one true way to play and everyone who thinks otherwise is getting -5 points.I'm only half joking.
>>97322899/osrg/ is fucked. >>97323066I just dick around a bit on donjon. It's got basically any tool you might need. Might not take you the whole way, but will definitely start you off.
>>97323565>lmao at fishfag believing that there's a secret discord dedicated to mocking himI mean he still believes that someone wrote a 200 page campaign write up just to get at him.Narcissists can never admit they're wrong.
>>97323765Right. That's entering paranoid schizophrenia territory, though.
>>97323765I thought it was firmly established that the 200 page thing was written just because that's what BrOSR losers do anyway?https://bdubsanddragons.blogspot.com/2025/07/braunstein-is-talk-of-town-bromerican.htmlThey just write these things out because they're always struggling to figure out how to make their games the most boring things ever and what could be more boring than a heaping slab of text no one would ever want to read.BrOSR losers encourage each other to write up their campaigns, probably because their games feel empty and maybe sharing them can help each other feel like they're not the worst people playing the worst games somehow.
>>97323816Why do the BrOSR try to ruin everything?
>>97323816>Everybody I don't like is the BrOSR.lmaoAdorable how obsessively the little autist keeps repeating the same bullshit.
>>97323145I'm not sure why you would call it pointless when it's just a revised and updated version and not a completely new iteration. It codifies a lot of things and connects certain things that touched together. It is also what two of my current DMS are using so naturally I picked up some free PDFs, and they have been a gold mine for material
>>97323095NTA, I was the one who mentioned the great sword thing. That's another great catch
>>97323214Which one specifically are you referring to? The thing is you keep claiming that there is a active discord raid that has been going on for I think months now, perpetrated by the broSr in order to promote Acks. But what server are you talking about? And how would you even have information on it if you weren't a part of it? These statements alone lead me to believe that you are either a very bad faith actor, or that you have actual psychotic delusions that are preventing you from interacting with reality
>>97323066Use appendix a from the dungeon Master's guide to generate the layout, and use the website dungeon scrawl to visually map it.Ignore the other guy who told you to use random dungeon generators. They are good as a novelty and nothing else, they won't actually teach you anything about how to make a dungeon or how to stock it.
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>>97323861It's not that they're trying to ruin things, it's just everything they try to do is bogged down by ineptitude. The BrOSR don't encourage write-ups for the same reason you or I might. Y'know, tell a good story, spark some joy or what not. They do it because they need receipts. Receipts of games is like any other sort of strict record keeping for them; without them the game can't have meaning to them.It's a bit like Russian Roulette. The game itself (minus the blowing your brains out) is actually pretty simple and even a bit boring, so they really have to raise the stakes in order for people to care about it. With BrOSR, they run bad games in dumb ways, so they need to try and employ every trick and technique they can to "raise the stakes" and pretend the game has some sort of meaning, when the unfortunate truth is that no game that these people would play would ever have a shred of point or purpose because the people themselves are pretty much just shit.
>>97323978Lmao I was the one who made the "ACKS bad" edit a while back using that exact same fish face, very amusing to see it again. Maybe we should start using that as a general macro and start hitting him with some of the class
>>97323990Some of the classics**For fuck sakes>>97323981What's even more fascinating is that regardless of what game system they are playing, and no matter how bad their games seem to be from the outside, they are still able to have fun and type up full reports. Meanwhile, the single person here trying to beg for 2e, has admitted to only ever having played one single session, and has posted some embarrassingly fake character sheets. Really, regardless of personal taste, you have to admit that one side is at least more throw and dedicated, whereas the other party is basically completely disengaged from the hobby entirely.
>>97323990>using that exact same fish face, very amusing to see it againYeah I loved yours so much I took yours, asked Gemini to remove the speech bubble and make the background white, and then used GIMP to make this template. I'm planning or reusing it in the future.
>>97324001Whoa, calm your tits, son, you seem genuinely jumping mad here. Is someone hitting a little too close to home for your liking, hmm?
>>97323990>>97324008>*planning ON reusing itForgot the template
>>97324027>the fishrape templateI'm sorry, which one??https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beIDKFwXam0
>>97323981>The game itself is actually pretty simple and even a bit boring1e is simple and boring? So what the fuck are you doing here then? >(minus the blowing your brains out)You need some mental health medication or a trip to the state hospital. >>97324008I found that image just looking up deep ones on Google image, but I'm impressed with what the AI did. Especially with making the background transparent. That's actually going to save me a lot of time and effort in the future, thanks. >>97324018I'm not sure what you could possibly take away from that as being mad, in fact thanks to this joint I'm very pleasantly mellow as I'm typing up my session report, would you like to see it? I don't care I'm going to post it for you when I'm done anyways haha
>>97324041Yooo the necronomicn comics that Alan Moore did features a few different fishman raping a lady scenes (she ended up wanting it and it's a mindless creature so I guess she was raping it via beastiality in the end). We could probably scrape a few images from those for meme use. Also I know that they aren't fish, but I'm still frightened about how dolphins will torture people and then drown them and rape them
>>97324047>Especially with making the background transparent.Gemini's pretty good at identifying individual items and removing or swapping them. You can e.g. take an image of an elf with a sword, ask it to swap the sword with a mace, and 70-80% of the time it gets it reasonably well on the first attempt.
>>97324041Not bad. Here's the template. Same procedure
>>97323816You've enraged them.Good job.
>>97324136The troll who wrote that writeup has always been extremely sensitive about people making fun of his story.
>>97324136ye, im SEETHING bruv
>>97324158LOL even that's a fucking understatement.
>>97324047DungeonCrawlFrensSession #~130While enjoying a christmas party at the keep, the window blows open with a flurry of snow, bringing with it an elf owl carrying a package as big as its body, collapsing to the table in exhaustion. Within the festively wrapped package was a snowglobe, and on the reverse of the wrapping paper, a letter (that had to be pieced together as the frenchman had torn the paper apart opening it). The letter was from a “Mayor Winklebottom Jr IV”, from the distant arctic land of Hypergnomea. It described that his remote mountain village was under mysterious attack and cut off from aid. Knowing the party as the heroes who has saved multiple countries in peril (including his own), he implores the Heroes of Lannes Keep to prepare themselves for danger, then smash the snowglobe at their feet. Once they did, the globe exploded into a blizzard, and the party felt themselves yanked out of the window as they flew as a snow cloud, crossing thousands of miles nearly instantly, recorporealizing at the edge of a snowy alpine forest, a prosperous looking tourism town visible far off downhill, and beyond that, a looming mountain dotted in massive evergreens, the thin peak of which droops over to the side, nearly curling on itself. The stink was incredible from the air blowing off them mountain, like living near a landfill.Travelling through the forest on foot, nearly halfway to town, following a sleigh path through the dense woods, the party sees a carriage shelter, and beneath it, an old man on a bench, wearing a dirty red cloak over plate armor and with a similar large red sack beside him. His hood was up but it was apaprent one eye was badly swollen and crusted shut and his skin sallow. The party hailed him, and he explained he was leaving town, but was resting briefly. Somehow, he smelled even worse than the air, like the sickly sweet of rot. The party offered him aid which he denied. Disturbed but cautious, the party decided to give him (cont)
>>97323969Anon, I already mentioned I'm familiar with dmg, the point is trying different methodologies for fresh experienceAlso>Ignore the other guy who told you to use random dungeon generatorsAnon... I... what do you think appendix a is?
>>97324318to give him a slight berth as they proceeded, when he suddenly stood and declared “There *is* something you can do for me, die!”, just as his head threw back, and his swollen eye burst open, emerging from the socket, a swaying red-speckled albino demon-centipede, puppeting the old mans body! The party moved into position, but the puppeted warrior tossed the red sack behind their line, and from it came six more centipedes. Over the course of combat, the puppet-man-thing attacked with its acidic centipede bite, aided by its troglodyte-like stench. The centipedes used their bites to latch and and begin attempting to burrow into the PC’s guts to puppet them too. Fortunately, the brave party prevailed, recovered some health, and pressed on. (cont)
>>97324327>Anon... I... what do you think appendix a is?Its a tool for making something yourself, not an "automatic" generator. Bad verbiage
>>97323969He's not looking for basics, he's looking for fresh, and if you want fresh ideas a good random generator can supply thousands.Sure, it throws out a nonsensical mish-mash dungeon, but any single feature can become the spark of something actually good.
>>97323762Thanks but donjon doesn't really provide a new methodology, just a time saveryou get pretty much the same thing as you would with appendix a after adding some loops
>>97324384Have you tried snorting a fistfull of cocaine while rapidly clicking donjon dozens of times per second and just letting a sea of random information pour into you without giving yourself any time to filter or process it and just accept it like a newborn babe emerging from the womb?Presumably while masturbating?
>>97324418Seems a bit expensive bit I'll give it a try
>>97324418>>97324434>not dropping acid and writing your dungeon on TempleOS with the random word generatorNGMI, ur as bad as fishboy
>>97320523>>97323683Unless you've got some other group running the same module to compare it to, what even is the point?Even if you do it's not as if the DMing is standardised and consistent so that the comparison is meaningful.The points themselves and the things they are awarded for look completely arbitrary too, especially the "subjective bonus".>>97320523>we only got through a few rooms and they had a negative scoreYou missed the bit about scoring 100 points for participation or was that cancelled out by massive PC death penalties?
>>97324578>whats the pointto examine the outcome results for amusement
>>97322007You know what's the hilarious part? You are trying to shill the books ironically bashing them, but it really is a shitty tableThat looks like the author just wanted to bloat the page countBFRPG's multiple tables are simpler, don't require you flipping pages for what the fuck "sword of gargantuan faggotory +1" actually means, have built-in rarity in the dice roll as God intended, AND all fit on a single page
>>97324628>You are trying to shill the books ironically bashing themYeah, like I explained in another comment, shitposting about ACKS on OSR-Free nets Macris tens of thousands of dollars a week. Which is why you're seeing all this activity. The profit is such that Macris is paying me $50 per comment I make in which I mention ACKS.This is because OSR-Free is the most popular general on /tg/, with lots of traffic from actual posters who aren't fishfag, who doesn't exist.
>>97324628bfrpg sucks ass thobeitsorry that youre too lazy to look up magic items o algoalso, what do you think the word "shill" means?
>>97324578>The points themselves and the things they are awarded for look completely arbitrary too,>Awakening vampire>-3>Putting vampire back to sleep>+3I don't know. That sounds like some pretty ironclad math.
>>97324628Now THAT is a book meant to be used in an actual game, not collect dust as a bookshelf decoration
>>97324655You discord types are really out of touch with 4ch lingoIt doesn't necessarily mean you are doing that for money
>>97324656>bfrpg sucks ass
>>97324683I bet he gets paid in ass fucks.
>>97324683again with the one liners without any actual content to make it look like there's activity here
>>97324694>I bet he gets paid in ass fucks.No need! Anybody can fuck me in the ass whenever he wants. You want to fuck me in the ass?
>>97323598>leave us aloneOther than being crazy nothing about your post seems genuine and I'm skeptical that you're in this "us" camp and not the "them" camp. Didn't work when todd was made, what makes you think it might work now when it's even worse than then?>different nameAlready suggested in and about the other osrg thread. I don't like C&C itself but it was at the forefront of OSR. If you want to exclude things go ahead and make a proper-subset-of-osr aka /posr/ thread but anything claiming to be /osrg/ needs to be about osr not a limited range of osr games. C&C doesn't get much love on 4chan. It would be very easy to scroll past the few C&C posts that would appear if people would just keep quiet, much easier than scrolling past the screeching the trolls, but trolls aren't willing to do that anywhere so we're both dreaming of a fantasy world.
>>97324694There's people paying in ass fucks? That's my kind of job! Where do I apply?
>>97324656>seething so hard he can't even type straightGood
>>97324719>can't even type straightlolwut
>>97324683>doesnt know words have meaning>4ch lingolmao kill yourself faggot>>97324687FAX>>97324736a bit gay, no?
>>97324748Go back to discord malding uncGetting angry is bad at your age you'll get an aneurysm or something
>>97324694you say that like it's a bad thing. great way to be paid. my favourite actually.
>>97324694Of course he does Who wouldn't Ass fucks are the best
>>97324694hey if thats how its being paid i can shill all sorts of things. bfrpg acks shadowdark mork bork. ill even shill ad&d 2e if its paid in ass fucks
>>97324694oh yes baby milo faggopoulos and i sub macris cock 24/7 while shilling pro-acks slavery on reddit with the brosr
>>97324820now THATS giving me a hardoncan i join?
>>97324830were looking for someone who can sub macho mandalf and create character sheets
>>97324768okay, im on discord, now what?
>>97324844oh my gawd macho mandalf has always been my secret fantasy but i cant create character sheets. ive tried twice and the brosr gang raped me because there were too many mistakes. like a cleric who could use daggers in bx
>>97324863Join the channel called "assfucks for shilling ACKS on OSRG-Free"
>>97324694lucky one if he does
>>97324694I mean, who wouldn't? Getting like that is the best. Particularly when it's Alexander "The Great" Macris, the author of ACKS, now on sale on DTRPG.You know why we call him Alexander "The Great" Macris, right?
>>97324883can u pm me an invite
>>97324909Let me guess... because of his SIZE? The size of Alexander "The Great" Macris? The author of By This Axe, on sale on DTRPG?
>>97324912Show me what you can go. Shill an ACKS product. Extra thrusts if you use an image.
>>97324921You guessed right! Alexander "The Great" Macris, author of the ACKS treasure tome, on sale now on DTRPG, is... shall we say "well endowed"?
>>97324937i like the MW and TWM tables
>>97324950Now I'm picturing what Alexander "The Great" Macris is doing to his slaves while he types the ACKS Judges Journal, now on sale on DTRPG. Did you know he owns slaves? Which is why he got banned from reddit. But he has rectal congress with them, which is basically payment, so he's a good slave owner.
>>97324960No image so only a quickie for you. I've sent you an invite to the secret discord by PM. Don't tell fishfag, we don't want him to join. Not that he exists anyway.
>>97324909>You know why we call him Alexander "The Great" Macris, right?Let's just say his "lines" are not "thin", if you catch my grift.
>>97324990>if you catch my griftkek I see what you did there.
>>97324694Man, you totally owned them with that one. Look how they're seething. We're winning!
>>97324694>I bet he gets paid in ass fucks.Man you've DESTROYED them. Look at them, they're in panic mode. That's it, we're taking OSRG back now.
>>97324694Judging by the reaction, this might actually be true.>>97324628God, those rules are refreshing after seeing so much pure shit get posted. It's sad how even just basic design principles can stand out when someone keeps posting pages of pure trash for some reason.
>>97325025>bfrpg>design principlesIMPLYING
>>97325025
>>97324628Technically speaking bfrp magic items don't fit on one page, you're excluding a bunch of other types of magic items, but yeah weapons and armor all fit on one page with room to spare
When is Opie finally going to address the fact that he misspelled the word edition for like five threads in a row?I couldn't imagine being this angry at 4chan users while also being esl. How embarrassing
>>97325244There's enough room for someone to include really bad AI art if they wanted. But what kind of soulless hack would add shitty AI art to a rulebook just to fill up space.
>>97323598That was attempted, trolls did not appear, but jannies killed it: >>97320110Apparently you're doomed to stay here until you surrender unconditionally and accept the strictures of /osrg/
>>97325443me
>>97323648It's particularly wild since he seemed to give up pretty easily on merging /3eg/ with /pf1/. A few posters told him to go fuck himself, the OP was restored, and he just did go fuck himself.
>>97325494because hes spent years working on fucking us over. with them he overplayed his hand immediately
>>97325494That just sounds like a falseflag effort from you. It fits your style, your personality, your shittiness.Really, everything you do or ever say gives people reasons to doubt you, and I don't know how you actually plan on getting past that.All you can do is spew lies. And get ass fucked apparently. Jesus christ.>>97324694
>>97325542I wonder if he tried making a.... >>97320110Wow, falseflagging is in his toolkit, imagine that. You really need to be completely shameless to do stuff like that.
>>97325542fishfag yet again engaging damage control via psychotic delusions
>>97325559One day he might actually learn that actions are louder than words.>>97324318>just as his head threw back, and his swollen eye burst open, emerging from the socket, a swaying red-speckled albino demon-centipede, puppeting the old mans body!My, how festive.
>>97325672>My, how festiveOh yes it's meant to be a Christmas holiday module, but the festive whimsical stuff hasn't come up yet, this first encounter was a bit of body horror to provide some contrast to the colorful whimsy that comes later
>>97325771Replying to myself, that was only half of the session report, I'm doing chores and cooking so I will try to type out the rest tonight
>>97325771>some contrastKinda underselling it.
>>97325837In my own defense, I was going for something very gruesome and horrifying, because what would later come is that in order to not be debilitated by the stench from the mountain, that the characters all end up taking a psychedelic potion that transforms everything into a cutesy cartoony Rankin bass Christmas special, with even the horrifying monsters appearing adorable and friendly (they are not).So yeah I wanted something particularly gruesome without being a magical realm insert, so that when I describe that they are being attacked by giant ice cream cone wearing peppermint bark armor, and wielding a candy cane scythe, it doesn't seem out of place (really I'm just trying to contextualize and ground the silliness that is happening. Also I apologize if I'm taking your commentary too seriously)
>>97325771You missed the opportunity for the centipedes to have red stripes rather than speckles, and curl up into a J shape when they died.
>>97325909Shit, you're really right. Maybe next time I run this I will change it to that. The reason they look like this was because originally they were supposed to be hiding in the snow, black and white, but I thought it would be cooler if he threw a bag full of them, but then them being camouflaged didn't make sense so I thought it would be more interesting if they look like blood splatter on snow. Maybe that's exactly what will happen when they encounter the centipedes under the effect of the psychedelic gnomebrew ;)
>>97325909That's kinda putting a hat on a hat.
>>97325896>I wanted something particularly gruesome without being a magical realm insert,This man is a better man than many on /tg/.
>>97324578>You missed the bit about scoring 100 points for participation Oh whoa, good catch. That's definitely so players don't get dejected. 80 sounds way better than -20.
>>97323984Helped a lot, thanks for clearing that up and making the lines quite clear.
>>97323892Why'd this one get deleted?
>>97327249Because it was made by a gay troll who's trying to force his alt name.
>>97321066Cacodemon is the catch all term Acks uses for devils, demons, and malicious outsiders/extraplanar beings. Some are built out like the Baleygr(balrog/balor) but most aren't. Are you planning on using it or did you just want to see the titty art?
>>97324628It's good to remember that this is the stuff they think is good. As in, the is the cream of their crop, and it gets a shit ton worse than even this slop they're dropping.The economy rules in particular are almost painful to look through, because there's so many obvious ways to make things easier or better, and the dumbfuck instead would make things slower and more complicated. It's the game design equivalent of watching someone endlessly miss a putt and somehow get further and further from the hole every time.
If you were joining a game and the GM said >We are using every first party book, 1e included. Please write a list of what optional rules you do and don't want to use.what would your lists be?What ones are definitely use, which are definitely dont? Every else is assume you dont care either way.
>>97327562AD&D 2e game
Asking here since this thread covers 2e and I think that's where I saw it, but I'm looking for a piece of art where it's an old wizard dude using magic to quickly clean up his place while a woman (also old) is walking towards his front door. I can't remember if it was colorized even. Anyone know the piece I'm thinking of? I swear it was in one of the AD&D 2e books but I can't seem to find it in my copies.
>>97327552Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
>>97321088my players spent an hour last night wrestling, playing, and camping with some when they found a lair of em. got a bunch of good information about local monster lairs too. they're cute
>>97321088Man! Talk about my kinda fae!
>>97321088Man, ACKS is such a good game you could write an entire fake campaign out of spite for it.
>Autist still rages out and spams reports whenever a certain screencap gets postedScreaming "I'm not mad, you're just boring" really doesn't work when you've got tears running down your wee piggy face Fishfag.
>>97327867I was hoping it was one of Mattingly's Wizard paintings but no luck.
>>97326392FAG on!
>>97327561>because there's so many obvious ways to make things easier or betterList two, and describe how they would make it objectively better
In my lotfp game I had some skeletons that were resistant to non-bludgeoning damage, and one of the players correctly pointed out that the back end of his handaxe could be used as a hammer, but I told him it wasn't designed for that and gave him a -2 to hit and damage, but upon reflection I think I may have fucked up and been too heavy-handed.Should I just have rewarded his characters resourcefulness and the players reasoning??
>>97329627yes, you were wrong
>>97329723Instead of such a banal inane reply, could you try to say something of substance? Explain how or why he was wrong? >>97329627Two things come to mind in this situation:1. A hand ax is not the same as a hatchet, 2. The hammer side of a hatchet is not designed to be swung in the same way with the same Force as the blade, the weight distribution is different, and the handle itself is ergonomically shaped to be swung the other way. That being said I would have allowed it, but just -1 to hit (maybe damage if I was feeling frisky). Lotfp is already punishing enough in regards to combat.
>>97329779mace>a metal weight on a stickaxe>a metal weight with a blade on a stickpimple as, anon was wrongyeah a mace would probably be more consistent in transferring the energy of a blow since you can fuck up edge alignment with an axebut the player had a solution for it anyway>muh ergonomicsanon ergonomics of a real-life medieval shafted weapon is just a hefty stick
Nah, due to your flippant attitude I have decided to double down on the player.
>>97329627Either a -1 to hit or -1 to damage would have been sufficient, your reasoning and the player's reasoning is fine. Maybe the player oughta pack a fucking mace next time.Did the skeletons take half damage from bladed weapons or were they virtually unaffected?
>>97330882Half damage, yeah. I was borrowing a bit from 3.5 and having the skeletons take half damage from blades and zombies take half damage from bludgeons. The zombies they were all equipped to deal with, but basically nobody except the cleric brought a club
