concrete jungle edition>Previous>>97442757>Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/WiCHizn0>Mediafirehttps://mediafire.com/folder/s9esc6u7ke8k5/CofD>Mega Ihttps://mega.nz/folder/ePQ1BKhJ#RCosRCh59Ki2Mpb1M9H3Uw>Mega II (also containing fanmade games)https://mega.nz/folder/ZbQ2zLJA#DOT-3df6rS2lLet4_RmqJQ>5e Megahttps://mega.nz/folder/7rQQ1LbQ#16_AiXVGo0P3_rVOJuoZyA>STV content foldershttps://pastebin.com/9i9zhydQ>General Creation Kithttps://mega.nz/#F!FWJgBTbb!f7d5rARWHYzuI8-8aI-Bxw>Ideas: BJ Zanzibar's WoDhttp://167.99.155.149/>Anders Mage Pagehttp://mage.gearsonline.net/anders/>White Wolf Wiki:https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page>Thread QuestionWhere was your last chronicle set, and how did the locale play a part in it?
1st post for the Anarchs!!! ANARCHS RULE!!!!
>>97461170so at what point does the Vampire at the center of the cult betray them?
>>97461252>Where was your last chronicle set, and how did the locale play a part in it?A fictitious city which was inspired by an old video game called Twisted Metal Black and was located on the Pacific coast roughly where Bellingham, WA is located in the real world. The dreary ambiance was very fitting; the dreary weather was very helpful for the local vampires.
Reposting:Here is an idea for a session or two i wanna get some feedback on:The society of Leopold is unusually active in a city, they speak of their agents going missing systematically and are focusing their efforts, the local prince hasn't heard anything about this and is worried there's a new player in town trying to stake a claim.Turns out there is. The convent the hunters operate out of is compromised and is at this point fully a bahari cult. They're okay with cainite vampires being hunted and so remain outwardly supportive of St. Leopold, but anyone who begins to figure it out is disposed of.Revealing this truth, making a deal with the vampire at the center of the cult, or killing everyone involved with the society of Leopold are all planned "solutions" that I have some ideas for how to follow up on.>>97461344Betray the cult or betray the players? The first I hadn't planned on, the second only if I end up doing a sabbat thing I've been cooking up but haven't pulled the trigger on yet.>>97461284>Do you have something in mind for how the Bahari takeover happened?Not anything concrete. I have the basic idea that tge nunnery keeps some artefacts for the society of leopold and one of these is a bahari text of some kind, which ends up influencing some of the novices. But I don't have much beyond that
Have you ever taken inspiration from non-Western media for your games, /tg/?
>as full of life as she was in her primeWould it turn a vampire into a living human?Can you use it on Caine?
>>97461440Sure, when it feels appropriately bleak for World of Darkness.
>>97461440>Have you ever taken inspiration from non-Western media for your games, /tg/?The only instance I can think of is my ST describing a sluagh NPC as looking "kinda like the girl from The Grudge".
>tfw Toreador with Malk bf
>>97461412I meant betray the players. It just seems like a classic case of loose ends that your players would be very short-sighted not to see coming. Maybe I'm missing something
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>>97461487Unreliable partners are a staple of vampire in my view. And making a deal with her would involve making it mutually beneficial and at least the implicit threat of destroying her, her garden, and her cult either directly or through the local prince. (Blackmailing her with the society of Leopold or a blood hunt).Hence why I only plan to have her outright break the deal if there is an alternative to the current powers in the city.
SEX WITH KIASYDS!!!
>>97461336>Which sect has the baddest bitches?The Anarchs, see pic related>Which sect has the best characters in the only meaningful VTM content outside of the tabletop?See all of bloodlines 1 for more information>Wait there is another path besides being my sire's eternal bitch slave, or a lunatic noddist religious wackjob?Why_Do_You_Obey?.pdfOh ya, I'm thinking its time for Anarchy.
>>97461440once I unlock Closing the Gap I am going to be teleporting behind people specifically like Bleach.
>>97461441Caine is explicitly not undead, so no. Also, I'm pretty sure God would have choice words for doing your dickery on him like that
>>97461580>>97461336
>>97461580Anarchs are like irl centrists. Literal NPCs
>>97461641You disagreeing with a post doesn't make it bait. >>97461645What makes the Anarchs centrists? They are legitimately the opposite of upholding the status quo
What would be a good name for a bar/strip joint run by a settite? For the life of me I can't come up with any good snake puns
>>97461696The Swallowed HoleThe One Eyed SnakeMilk of the Serpent (or derivatives like Milking the Snake)The Scales of SinThe Snake in the GardenI can post more
>>97461696The Forbidden Fruit. Neon sign outside has a serpent extending an apple to a naked woman. That's if it's a classy joint. >>97461758>The One Eyed SnakeKek, that one's pretty good if it's a shady low-class joint Not really puns but: Serpentskirt if your players have good taste. Or Medusa's Kiss
>>97461758Not a pun per se, but what about “The Forbidden Fruit”? With a neon sign of a snake circling an apple?
I wrote my post 30 mins ago and watched an anime episode while waiting for the captcha and completely forgot about it… somehow me and anon got the same name idea as well as the neon sign lol
>>97461696"The bite" (funny cuz is also a vampire pun)"Anaconda's kiss" (constrictors are underuse)"Queen cobra""Set frond, very much no hidden cuz fuck you prince, the pun is a cultural thing".
>>97461252>Where was your last chronicle set, and how did the locale play a part in it?Last as in a finished game I played in? Louisville Kentucky, not modern, 1816. Hunter the Vigil. The locale played a huge role. A still growing and bustling trade city by in large surrounded by countryside and frontier. Allowed us to have a good mix of urban and country hunts, there were a lot of fun period things going on. The big fixture was it being the year without a summer, a volcanic winter caused by a super-eruption. Some days it was so bad that you could see sunspots with the naked eye. Helped make the situation feel quite dire.
Hail, thou lord of stars unknown,Serpent king on desert throne,Warrior on black winds blown!Madness-bringer, Duke of Dreams.Hymns of praise in nighttime screams,Source of weird and darkling doomsCarried forth on black ray-streams!Master of unquiet tombs,I call Thee from Thy outer glooms!From Thy features lift the cowl!Reveal the fairness in the foul!From inner darkness where they dwellLet secret lusts uncoil and howlThe prophecies of death and hell –Prophecies for me to tell.O, free my soul from custom’s jailAnd grant a faith that will not failImmortal Set, All-Father, hail!
>>97462483>The Gehenna book reveals Set is unimpressed, possibly even embarrassed, by his followers
>>97462579Even by best girl Kemintiri?
need me a toreador girl frfr
How do low-gen vamps deal with mages?
>>97463497Network of thralls to get early warning what the mage is up to and enough resources to comfortably move on another continent.
>>97463497Ghoul with a shotgun waiting in a nearby bathroom stall.
>>97463427Are people really THAT into the idea of someone just like... drinking them? Or is it the superpowers that mean she can kill you by flicking her wrist?
>>97461639Never mind then, still going to ass it to my Methusaleh-busting build.>tfw it would work on antediluvians
>>97463497Mages are WoD's equivalent of the Batman prep time meme. If they're unprepared and out of their element they're literally just a guy. For example, a Technocrat can't start conjuring fireballs out of nowhere, his paradigm requires him to have a special grenade or flamethrower or something like that. If you disarm him then he can't blast you, even if that's a trivial effect for another mage.
>>97463497Indirectly.Through several layers of agents.If they discover and kill/capture some neonates who don't even know they're working for you that's no biggie. If those neonates get lucky they might just blow his brains out in an ambush, or steal something cool from him, or find out something you can use as leverage.
>>97463497By sending their ghouls or a couple of crackheads they paid after the mage. Ambushing is WoD's most powerful weapon.
>>97463497People will always say "just ambush the mage bro". And to a degree, that's the right answer along with espionage tactics.However, the guy who said "Mages are Batman with preptime" is 100% right. No Mage powerful enough to be a threat will be caught unprepped casually.Force field generator wristwatches, bulletproof t-shirts, mind-control preventing cologne... if an Awakened individual survives ONE attempt on his life, you bet your ass they're going to start becoming paranoid enough to develop countermeasures for every reasonable danger, and then as time goes on they also start developing them for unreasonable ones. Mages are the ultimate "nuh-uh I'm immune to that" kids in the playground and you should treat them as such.What do I mean by that? Well, you have two options:A) You don't play with them because they're assholes that make everything impossible, so you just ignore them until they leave.B) You do what Bane did to defeat Batman: you tire them out. Find their schedules, what they care about, what their goals are. Become an omnidirectional threat that gives them no respite, no time to rest or recover. Sooner or later a Paradox backlash will hit, sooner or later they will miss something. That's your chance.Truth is that the only Awakened you're gonna be able to jump on on a whim, realistically speaking, are Arete 1-2 Orphans, Hollow Ones, and maybe some green and stupid trads that don't listen to their teachers.
>>97463497By countermagic them. V20 Core and V20 The Black Hand contain options.
>>97463708Or it would affect them as Corpse in The Monster 5.
>>97463706In a VtM context, unless you're dealing with a Gio, getting bit feels good. It's the reason vampires don't have to constantly kill to silence a victim screaming bloody murder because someone's biting their neck. It's not necessarily orgasmic, sometimes its likened to the best hit of heroin imaginable, but I could also see the pleasure being somewhat informed by the context. If there's a sexual pretext, the brain will fill in and leap to erotic pleasure. Therefore, having your vamp gf lightly feed on you semi-regularly is like getting an orgasm on top of your regular orgasm.As for broader fetishism, you could think of it like a mega-hickey. Masochism isn't uncommon at all, nor is submission, and being fed on by a vampire ticks both those boxes. There's also potent eroticism in the idea of someone gulping down your bodily fluids, as well as the idea that they "need" you, albeit in a predatory way. Like most kinks and fetishes, if you don't have it, there's only so much it being explained to you can do. I'm also sure there's a difference between people into stuff like the image posted, where it's basically just a really dommy make-out session with the guy showing no visible signs of ill-health vs. someone who has fantasies of getting drained to the bone.
>>97464048That, and if they don't kill you they can lick the bite and it heals immediately, so it doesn't really leave visible evidence on the victims either.
>>97463427Based
>>97464048>unless you're dealing with a Gioor Nagaraja
gib money now!t. bone gnawer
>all this overplanning on killing a mage when you could just hire flash mobs to pop up around them and get a sniper to take the mage out
>>97463709>If they're unprepared and out of their element they're literally just a guyfamously happened to archmage Isaac Newton who died in a drive-by while going for a walk in detroit
>>97464119Get a job you fucking bum
Which type of mage allows me to be a muscle-brawler himbo?
>>97464141Akashic is an easy pick. You could justify most of them, if you had the right paradigm.
>>97463497To counter a magickal spell directed at a vampire roll a Wits + Occult roll (difficulty 6) to soaks spells.If effect not directed at a vampire, but occurs nearby, use Thaumaturgical Countermagic (difficulty 6). Sorcerers and certain other beings may counter a spell as an extended action, if the Storyteller approves.Theoretically, you can use both options at once.Or just make a custom elder discipline power, this is also perfectly feasible.
Is there a reason why Mages are even in WoD? Cuz they seem to be so OP that it's not worth mentioning them outside of themselves or playing in WoD with them.
>>97461580Based.>>97461645>t. Bootlicker
>>97464141Akashic Brotherhood. Bonus point if you use Do manoeuvres to suffocate people with your pecs.
>Trying to find a place to talk and maybe rp about OWOD>Everywhere is filled with 5th edition paid shills or the pathetic wimps that love onyx path garbage and sanitized slopBeing an owod fan is suffering. Zero online places to be in besides this one and here where is filled with schizos and trolls.
>>97464153The same can be said about changelings. Arguably, they even worse RAW.
>>97464153No one actually plays Mage, it’s all just internet speculation and gives nerds something to blabber about, so you never actually have to deal with them in your games! It’s the potential man meme of WoD games—always if, never “when we will actually play this.”
>>97464153>Magefaggot: haha I'm so powerful and invincible why I am even here-*garou appears*>"OH NONONONO WOLFY PLS I CAST THE SPHERE OFASHSHBCMAKKKAVKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!! *gets shredded to pieces in seconds*Magefaggots in a nutshell.
>>97464173It's fucking insane, especially since they're omega lefties and they supposedly hate glazing corpos, but it's okay when Paradox and Onyx Path enshitifies. Because it just is OKAY!!!
>>97464119>he'd rather rob a store than ask the kinfolk for donationsThis is some real Shadow Lords behavior
>>97463497Blood bond him by doping his starbucks
>>97464153Because they're only OP on paper, in practice you're either a small fry who gets shit on by paradox for daring to grow bananas a bit faster or you're a big player who's running around and interacting with other big players from other splats who are eating the sun or modifying the idea of blue.
>>97464173It says a lot that the places where they do talk about older WoD, you aren't invited.Those forums actually gatekeep outsiders who can not be trusted.
>>97464187Just levitate the woof away.
>>97464164More people would be pro anarch if LA by night wasn’t dog ass. Thankfully, I survived the anti-anarch propaganda but many brothers and sisters were lost.
>>97464236That and everything you could reasonably expect an urban fantasy magician to do is better covered by Sorcerer and those have fuck all to talk about.
>>97464292Didn't it incur a contested willpower roll each round?
Which splat allows me to conquer and make a kingdom full of other splats?
>>97464317that's for a tremere (or other vamp). A mage doing the same thing wouldn't invoke a clash at all unless the st is using the set of optional rules from m20 that aim to make magick harder to use on other splats by giving them all inherent countermagic dice
>>97464340Or a werewolf can just use Rending the Craft.
>>97464352and a mage can just turn them forever into a silver statue which also drains them of all gnosis and has no save involvedthis can go on forever which is the problem with all this whiteroom nonsense especially with mage which i swear must have had some writers who also must just been whiteroom fags like this themselves especially whoever wrote the two revised storyteller books
>>97464187>not having infinity money and goons between them and whatever untersplat tires to fuck with themCouldn't be me, lol.
>>97464187A Mage could take a Garou (with prep time or being almost powerful enough to be banished from reality)
>>97464352WoD balance is basically garbage within the context of each splat, let alone across the splat.
>>97464393so what I could also take one with enough lube
>>97464337the existence of Pentex heavily hints that the strongest splat is actually rich guy considering the kind of mfs they got on payroll
>>97464340>using the set of optional rules from m20 that aim to make magick harder to use on other splats by giving them all inherent countermagic diceIs there even a splat besides the vampires with specific countermagik options?
>>97464315Urban fantasy is sort of half and half on differentiating between outright reality warping wizardry and practitioners of magic as a sort of science you can research
>>97464398I'd like to see someone attempt that
Does anyone have an ideas for a necromancy/animalism combo discipline powers?
>>97464444summon and order around animalistic plasmics from wraith or the baghest from the dark age vampire book
>>97464444Nice quads. Wouldn't animalism + necromancy have too much overlap with Koldunism or some other sort of spiritual magic? Off the top of my head though probably some archeology stuff like resurrecting extinct animals from the ice age or previous. Maybe if you go as far as 4/5 dots in each you could do some time reversal in the area towards an earlier period of the Earth (which is bullshit but hey so are disciplines).So perhaps something like turning Antarctica into a swamp or returning to pre-Oxygen Earth and whatever interpretation you have of that.
>>97464444temporarily turn someone's beast into a shadow give zombus their instincts back (make them able to roll initiative and give them some brawl dice) Beckoning but with ghosts or zombies
>>97464292Thanks for proving you know nothing about what you're talking about. A normal mage or even a high level one wouldn't be able to realize the garou is there before they're already dead and being eaten. Is just not humanly possible has garou has super physical abilities and at the end of the day mages are humans.
>>97464444that's literally Spiritus
>>97464264Your personal discord server where you RP erotic anus rape with your garou boyfriend is neither a forum nor a community space. These are called circlejerks but then again you probably don't have one either are just here crying like a bitch for the sour grapes.
>>97464292using 2nd edition rulesforces 3 to make it floatsince it's obviously vulgar without witnesses (as Garou are not sleepers) the difficulty would be 3+4=7I'd say you'd need 2 successes to make it float, 3 minimum if you want it to float in such a way that it can't just drag itself along a wall or the ground towards youalso fuck you it's fast casting so +1 difficultyso in short it's a difficulty 8 roll with that needs a minimum of 3 successes and let's say you are arete 4 so you get a total of 4d10 to make that withso while this is possible it would be more likely that you fail and are promptly turned into mince meat by a wooft. actually knows the rules for casting magick
>>97464209Political garbage aside they're just corpo cocksuckers and love cucking to authority. They're the same as conservatives but are too stupid to realize. Although is funny to seeing from time to time someone breaks the programming and dares to question how shitting on OWOD and conforming to corporate garbage is an act of rebellion. At the end of the day the reason most of them hate OWOD is because it was a genuine effort of rebellion instead of supporting the current trend fed by the slopmasters at the top.
>>97464472>Koldunism>>97464519>SpiritusThese disciplines are more about interaction with the middle umbra rather than the lower umbra.>>97464451>>97464472>>97464489Thanks.
>>97464444a power (probably 1 dot) that resurrects any animals inside the target, hope you didn't eat meat!while not deadly the discomfort of having a steak wriggle around in your guts is not to be underestimated
>>97464402Nope. Pentex is just one of the many minor projects of the Syndicate.The greatest foe of the Garou, who they are losing the war against, is the tiniest fraction of the Technocracy's true power.Woofs, stay losing.
>>97464641are the syndicate not "rich guy"? am I not technically correct?
>>97464621Damn, that's sick!
>>97464621>>97464661Yeah I like this one too. Cool but cheap powers are always appreciated.
>>97464352>>97464367>Turn the Werewolf into a Silver Statue so that he can't do his gay gift bullshit until someone else comes along>Immediately become a silver statue yourself because Paradox is a bitch and you're in an abusive relationshipMage seems both pro and anti-whiteroom
>>97464651They're giga rich guys but anon is a bit wrong about Pentex merely being a Syndicate side project, Werewolf's greatest foe would be around even with no resources because the Wyrm and its doom cults just run on bad vibes and consooming which would happen anyway
>>97464444buff "Quell the Beast" by making the target feel the primal fear of death perhaps even give them death sight for a while which they can't turn off till the power is done and i also want to say something with a undead insect plague ala plagues of egypt but even more disgusting, but i am not sure how i would design that rules wise
reminder that a weaver not!arasaka in one end time scenario just casually buys pentex and that the garou ignored them in favor of fighting pentex and that the syndicate has not found anything wrong with them, yetpentex isn't even the biggest megacorp problem the garou have just the one that is loud enough for the woofs to notice
is there anything in VtM revised that is actually good or is all badwrongfun type of lore?
>>97464729Another L for the Garou. Will their retardation ever cease?
what's the most weaver i can make a vampire without going full drone? true brujah with weaver tech gadgets?
>>97464802the prince, primogen and midnight siege books are excellent as are most of the revised clan books
>>97464802It's mostly a matter of opinion. I think the Metaplot lore was all trash, but the actual books were fine to great. I will always recommend Midnight Siege when someone's not sure how to handle a war arc for VtM. It has stuff like Tzimisce making ghoul observer blimps and a Malkavian Archon engaging in psyops to convince the Sabbat that the Camarilla has daywalker assassins. Clanbooks are solid, some were really good. Gilded Cage is a little too heavy on the "ghoul middle management bro, did I mention you should ghoul middle management?" but it's still a good resource for playing the influence game.
>>97464802Absolutely dogshit for Anarch lore. The Chinese invasion of the Free States, the neonate primogen in LbN kinda ruins the entire point of the movement if young vampires aren't being shit on by the old.besides that, my opinion is the same as >>97464947. Though, V20 is just superior to it in every regard making Revised superfluous.
>>97464729>syndicate has not found anything wrong with themI mean, drones are perfect employees. They're kind weird but you can always assume they're some sort of NWO secret project in social conditioning.
>>97465053>guy hasn't clocked out for 170 hours>and that is my problem why?
>>97464890>>97464947well thanks bros. i've heard they literally nuked or eviscerated certain clans so i was under the impression their clanbooks are garbo. guess i will give these and politics books a try. apparently theres nothing to properly play elders.>>97464994>Absolutely dogshit for Anarch lore.so i was warned. apparently revised turned the sabbat into the mayor threat and the anarchs got cucked and nerfed to hell? i can't take that because those idiots are my favorite sect.
>>97465087>i've heard they literally nuked or eviscerated certain clansCurious who holds that opinion. Because like... I hate the "three clans in an overcoat" era of Assamite lore. But also, I'm not gonna pretend Assamite lore was ever good in the first place, so I wouldn't call it an evisceration.
>>97465087they nuked clan ravnos, but the clan book is actually pretty clear about that they didn't nuked (you)r ravnos and that even if there is no canon npc alive who might have some of these elders powers there in this book just for the players and st to play with and the kinda defeated humor that comes from a fallen clan of tricksters makes it better to read than their first clan book that wanted to justify all they do and the plot hook of surrivors noticing that something like that this did not happen with the tzimisce and lasombra and that this proves that the sabbat is full of shit could lead to something interesting (even if it did not in canon)so i think it's a okay book even if the week of nightmares itself was stupid as shit
Guys, who's your favorite and least favorite wod artist?My favorite is Ron Spencer. Love his mix gory ultra violence, hyper musculature on everything and ugly looking monstrous abominations. The dark shading is also great when his art is colored, but his black and white stuff is amazing too. He fits WtA like a glove. It also a joy when he crops up in other splat books too.Least favorite would probably be Leif Jones. He's not the worst imo, but he draws people like they're melting clay dolls with giant bug eyes. His characters look especially hideous (and not in the good way) when they're smiling or trying to emote in some other way. Major uncanny valley vibe and his art is way overused in Mage. He's still infinitely preferable to that shitty artstyle that's basically just really lazy photoshops of real people that all the newer books have.
>>97465185i can't post pictures right now because i am on my phone, but my favorite is by far cobb especially his work in wraith is inspired and does so much for the gamelineand least favorite well.. we have to mention the photobash guy from w5 whatever his name is
>>97465102i genuinely don't know anyone who thought clan assamite was bad. i still know a guy who runs a assamite fanpage to this day. i think they were pretty unique on their and enjoy their antics
>>97464304 dementation soloing the tower during most of the series while the only sensible and useful character is shit on relentlessly by diablerists and buffoons.
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>>97464153Mage is an awesome system in concept and absolute balls to actually play unless everyone is sharing the same braincell.
>>97464641lol no
who would win: a group of neonate tzimisce-caitiff or the combined strength of clan Gangrel, Salubri. Tzimisce, and Nosferatu alongside the entire hermetic order and Shadowlord tribe?
>>97465471hey don't forget the assamites, a faction of the european ventrue (the eastern lords) and the british true fae (but to be fair those are the only ones who actually won against the tremblers)
>>97464729>and that the syndicate has not found anything wrong with them, yetAnother L for the Technocrats, will their retardation ever cease?
>>97465471The Second Inquisition, if the absolute annihilation of the Vienna Chantry by baseline humans is anything to go by.
>>97465492common hunter w
>>97465492Back to your cuckcage, paradox shill.
>>97465500Sorry that your epic mastermind blood wizards aren't the writer's pet any more and actually have to take Ls.
>>97465507BL2 bombed and you lost money. Cope and seethe shill.
[Tremere] would've easily dealt with the bomb if he wasn't busy having say gex with Saulot and [Tzimisce]
Hey, at least our usual retard is trying to bait with other spalts now
>>97465522That's very true and factual.It's also true and factual that the Vienna Chantry got bombed into oblivion when the Second Inquisition outwitted the entire Tremere pyramid.
>>97465526haven't you read the gehenna crusade? tremere is behind this and now he is secretly running the sabbat now and is hunting loyalist tremere and salubri using how new house goratrix and salubri antitribu who he managed to convince that saulot really was behind everythingtremerysue himself has completely surrived the fall of his clan fall of grace as writers pets
>>97464641If the Syndicate controls Pentex, and Pentex is completely rotted from the inside out by the Wyrm and infested by reality deviants (including BSD werewolves), then that means the Syndicate must be destroyed by the rest of the Technocracy for being a Nephandi fifth column.
>>97465543Say it again without rains throwing tears of failure on the keyboard, shill.
>>97465565that's why the syndicate does not want the rest of the union to find out
>man tremere are so cool and so badass we really are the best clan we're able to take on almost half of all of the other clans simultaneously and come out on top even though we were shitty high gen caitiff to start with we're so cool and badass sucks to be any other clan i can't imagine being anything other than tremere thaumaturgy for life>but what about that time that tremere got their asses kicked by a coalition of hunters?>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT CANON NOT CANON NOT CANON MY TREMERE CAN NEVER LOSE LIKE THAT YOU'RE A SHILL FOR DARING TO SAY THAT THE TREMERE COULD EVER LOSE MY TREMERE CAN NEVER LOSE NEVER EVER NEVER EVER NEVER EVERlmao
>>97465539Yeah, but he's not getting the same amount of hits with VtM. You can tell because he's mixing it up a shitload already, pivoting from Anarchwank some of the anarch glazers do seem to be organic but I'd bet good money he started it last thread with the baffling claim of ancilla being a Camarilla exclusive term instead of a generic. to V5 bait. Expect him to go back to milking the wooffags for infinite (you)s next thread.
Let's face it, the Tremere were due a humbling. If there's one thing in V5 worth keeping, it's the Vienna bombing.
>>97465570The Syndicate doesn't know because the Technocrats are retarded.
>>97465346Are you talking about the LA by Night like Live play or the LA by Night book? My comment that "LA by Night was dogshit" is strictly a commentary on how the LA by Night supplement released by White Wolf was uninspiring lore for how Anarch domains operate + additional fluff. I have no idea about the LA by Night, like, show or what contents it deals with.
>>97465559>Tremere joined the sabbatb-based..?
>>97465641Honestly there should probably be way more differentiated set-ups between how Vampires run a place. Sure, you might have a standard Prince-and-Primogens as a kind of standard, but over the course of the whole world and differing sects surely there should be a bunch, especially among anarchs.What do you think, Anons? Have you ever run or been in a game with a unique set-up for your vampire's city? Even if it's just someone pulling a Sejanus or other novel way of someone holding power.
>>97465604>Let's face it, the Tremere were due a humbling. If there's one thing in V5 worth keeping, it's the Vienna bombing.I get where you are comming from but the execussion was wack.
How much is kalif going for in your city?
>>97465676well he is pretending to be goratrix after stealing that guy's bodybut yeah the guy is behind everything involving his clan: he is obviously behind the new house goratrix he is also in direct contact with schrekt and the two are working together to rebuild the pyramid in the v5 blood sigil book and according to BJD he is also secrectly behind house carna which if still true means they are just controlled opposition and the reason he doing this all acording to gehenna war is because saulot is actually directly controlling a lot of the old guard tremere and in this edition he(saulot) is a bad guy againso all in all because big united factions are bad you now have the amazing new player choice between goratrix but secretly tremere, schrekt but secretly tremere and carna but secretly tremere!
>>97465677WoD never had enough by night books like they should have made, so aventuring in this is basically the domain of homebrew.But a city vampire politics should depend a lot on the city itself. You can't just make up shit on a vacuum because that would be nonsensical. I would put work into research before doing a city and draw from its history to see how its run in the first place, and adapt its institution to that. I have always fantasy to make my own by own by night book about certain european cities but I digress.
at my table the Camarilla has 13 clans
>>97465771>WoD never had enough by night books like they should have made, so aventuring in this is basically the domain of homebrew.I think they tried to hard to cover individual cities very deeply rather than trying to cover large areas they didn't knew shit about.
>>97465771>I have always fantasy to make my own by own by night book about certain european cities but I digress.This is 4chan. You've got a captive audience. Tell us, so we can either call you a retard, tell you it's sick and we're stealing it, or both.
>>97465830As in all 13 clans have Justicars? Or as in every clan unironically has a majority in the Camarilla. I'm curious as to how it works in either case. No bait. No troll. I like hearing about other people's tables' WoD. Mine's fairly different too.
Which clan would each of these girls be?
>>97461336If Anarchs rule, are they Anarchs? “Anarchy rules” sounds better.
>>97465771>I have always fantasy to make my own by own by night book about certain european cities but I digress.which cities? i am personally also thinking that perhaps i should write down all the npcs i all made for my games as by night books but the problem is that i reused some of them in different cities and that berlin already has a book that i pretty much completely ignored...otherwise if i get myself to do it i could write>Oslo by night>Hamburg by night>Berlin by nightfrom the pov of someone who has lived in each of these cities
>>97465901Toreador, Malk, Gangrel, Brujah, Ventrue, Nosferatu (with a shitton of makepu), Tremere (House Carna), and very confused Caitiff
>>97465896they all have justiciars and princes but they aren't present in all cities. like Oslo would have lots of Tzimisce and Gangrel but almost no Ventrue or Toreadors. the Sabbat also does still exist and likewise has all the 13 clans.basically all the elders joined up with the Camarilla to fend off the Anarchs so all clans ended up being part of it
>>97465901Lasombra, Malkavian, Gangrel, Brujah, Ventrue, Telyavelic Tremere, Toreador, Giovanni
>>97465965would be interesting to see how some non camarilla 7 clan princes and the courts they run look like
>>97466018NTA, but cammie lasombra are just slightly more evil ventrue with special effects.
>>97466032huh. would have expected them to at least pay a bit more lip service to the whole church thing they have going onbut hey special effects are cool
>>97466032That's just the Lasombra in general.
>Paradox operating profit dropped 162% year-on-year as it writes down Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines 2>https://www.gamesindustry.biz/paradox-operating-profit-dropped-162-year-on-year-as-it-writes-down-vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-2
>>97466099
>>97466099Can we all agree that BL2 was a justified and well-deserved flop? I'm saying this as a hunterfag, generic spooks are the shitties hunter representation there is.
>>97466099>PDX are just throwing all resources back at their excel spreadsheetsI wonder what company is gonna adopt White Wolf next?
>>97466099KWAB
which splat?
>>97465965Interesting. Though, as someone who isn't a scandi, I imagine the developed parts of every scandi nation being filled with Ventrue. They just have that attitude to me.
>>97466124literally no one had hope for it since it was first revealed years ago I am shocked paradox didn't cancel the game or that any studio took it on.
>>97466156pretty sure there's a type of fomori that are all about being weird inbred hicks. That, or this is just the most intelligent branch of the Bratovich family.
>>97466156were rats or bone gnawers
>>97466156Slasher, Freaks specifically
>>97466228>bite hot chickWhat's wrong with that??
>>97466228>pick they lock
>>97466156>Presumbly some small town shithole in the South where half the population is addicted to painkillers and 99% don't have anything above a high school education (they all went to the same high school)The Bible Belt is practically a 3rd world country.
>>97465901Toreador. Beacause they are all my Childer and my personal harem.
>>97466099Literally everyone expected this.>>97466159Sunken cost. Simple as.
>>97466099Deserved but this is also not Paradox's first stint in the shit games low profits sale, like that one time they lost 42 million or more>>97466159It was a lot of factors, but also and mainly as telling from Paradox's own words>We had no idea making an RPG would be so expensive>>97466352I don't think Sunken cost applies here much since the game at any point could have been written off as a few million dollar loss instead of like 37 million. Paradox just refused to consult with any studio that has any degree of experience of knowhow. Their jewish content agreement also prevents indie games that aren't dirt cheap to make from making it through either.It's like a 20 car collision in the highway everyone got a simultaneous vision of, but that they ignored anyway because they had the cringe idea that their boss would get pissed if they took an extra minute to not die by driving safe
>>97466156>funneled towards their elder>municipal goverment run by antisocialsThey should be backstabbing each other to much to function. Hell, I'm surprised no one's killed the Elder yet
>>97466124I think judged by its own merit it's just mediocre, not quite rpg but certainly a game, and could have a chance to cut even. But all the tedium of repeatedly cancelled/restarted development, general disdain for V5, and last minute drama around DLC clans brought it under.
>>97466128Best odds is Onyx Path or the current owners of Ars. Worst path is Hasbro (doomed to irrelevancy for another 20 years). More than likely they won't sell white wolf since they're basically a passive money farm when Paradox isn't busy wasting dollars themselves on video games because of autistics who produce WoD content for free
>>97466422>HasbroPonies with fangs when?
>>97466420As a game it's certainly playable but it's worse slop than the boston game but with mediocre action. The writing is downright pretty banal too except for the woman in charge being a paranoid schizophrenic serial killer backstabber. That part's actually kind of based but both Lou and Ryong become irrelevant too fast
>>97466430could be worse, could be MtG set for World of Darkness
>>97466430It'll get gifted or merged with Wizards and it'll be unrecognizable slop meant to appeal to theater kids and trans.>Camarilla but in der Dungeons undz DragonzPonies with fangs would actually be the better outcome in this case
>>97466449>it'll be unrecognizable slop meant to appeal to theater kids and transI mean, isn't that V5 already?
>>97466311>The Bible Belt is practically a 3rd world country.That's any rural area (or inner city); the cities in the south are just fine.
>>97466262>huwhite kindred dun season they blood
>>97466099Is this the biggest L for the V5 crowd ever?>OWOD lore filled with "problematic content" creates BL1 one of the most beloved rpg classics remembered 20 years later>V5 turd made for tumblerites and ideological wasted of oxygens creates a game so bad that it sinks the publisher, sinks the developer, and sinks the brand to irrelevancy foreverI feel like these bastards got punished by the real life camarilla for fucking up the favorite vampire past time.
>>97466478V5 is semi-recognizable slop, so imagine V5 but twice as bad and even more dumbed down. Imagine more so shit like>Humanity is your willpower>No rouse checks, hunger will rise>no virtues>40% of skills cuts>no more flaws, everything is a merit because your choice to be in a combat wheelchair cannot be a mechanical one>Merging the mental and social stats>generation scrapped entirely for levels
>>97454628Could this actually work?
>>97466524technically yeah i assume it would be kinda boring to play given that you are limited to puppeting mortals, but as a npc this works
>>97466524What a fucking disgusting image.
>>97466524>>97466534Was about to say, yeah it would certainly be a smart character idea were you to go about it properly but it'd be miserable to play. Works better as an NPC encounter for a different splat since using children is often quite contemptible and the actual mechanics of needing to use a child and being useless for everything but your brain and ability to speak sucks. Also, being limited to the mind of a child means you're supposed to RP being temperamental and have lower impulse control or else you're just being cringe for no reason
Honestly, Possession is a really fun and strong ability, but it's very unwieldy in actual play. Your body being left in a pseudo-torpor while you use it creates very annoying logistics when paired with other PCs.
>>97466524Seen something similar done with Animalism, think it was sample character in the nosferatu clanbook - sewer hobo acting through mind controlled stray animals.>>97466539I believe the artist is Russian, that should explain the absurdly dark humor and casual cruelty.>>97466551>being useless for everything but your brain and ability to speak sucksShouldn't you be able to use mental disciplines through the vessel you're dominating?
>>97466645it's based on successes and each roll is a clash against the target's willpower so it's not something very reliable
>>97466684>that kindergarten kid is shouting "kupala" again
>>97466741>That kindergarten kid brought in a rat and drew some weird shit with ketchup again, ew
>>97466684With the proposed setup you get to cherry pick the most malleable ones.Hell if you were to minimize ethics and maximize efficiency you could spend disobedient orphans to make more deeply traumatized and presumably easily manipulated orphans.I'm starting to understand why some storytellers completely gloss over existence of chidren in the setting, this is both very messed up thematically and very tempting mechanically.
>>97465185I really like Guy Davis, even though the only werewolves he drew were for the HtR book The Moonstruck, and honestly that wasn't his best work. He also was the artist for a lot of the Hellboy spinoff, BRPD. The worst is Christopher Shy. He's responsible for all the ugly character portraits throughout most of Revised VtM. The one's with all the ugly face tattoos.
>>97466524You can do shit like that but in the vast majority of cases it's a waste of time even if the ST helps you with implementing this set up.I had a similar scenario with an Animalism user but at least he got to run around and command his minions on the field.>>97466797It's mostly because people don't really want to deal with that kind of stuff. Playing a pedo adjacent guy is uncomfortable for basically everyone at the table and what do you get out of that?
>>97465185Leif is weird because some of his pieces capture the vibe perfectly, while others miss the mark so badly they almost break whatever text they're attached to.Who's the guy that kept trying to draw manga style? I've mostly seen his stuff in Kindred of the East and early Changeling. Not necessarily my favorite artist but his pieces had this 90s weeaboo SOVL that modern weeab games just can't replicate.
>BL flopped so hard that is probably going to kill nuWOD foreverMageCHADS stay winning and will never see a 5 version of their game.
>>97467100>Hey, OPP, we can't make this work, want to buy your stuff back?
>>97467100On the other hand they previously said that Mage 5 and conversion was their priority right now, so who knows. Somewhere I can feel a Monkey's paw curling
Haven for sale.Nosferatu need not apply.
>>97467118OPP would barely be able to give them pocket change to make a sale worthwhile. Wouldn't the proper soulless corporate action be to sit on the IP forever so no one else can make it work?
>>97467162What Malkavian/Toreador couple owned this place first? I don't want to get cursed and diablerized in my sleep
>>97467170No curses, just a spacious place with high quality Art.
>>97467151Druggie witch should have platinum hair.
>>97467178honestly i fuck with it
>>97467178i dunno if i fuck with that many windows in my haven
>>97467162Pentex approved """"art""""".
>>97467162>>97467178https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4irXQhgMqg
>>97467195Electric blackout curtains sold separately.Also available: mystical sun blocking glass
>>97467178>Art.I'm sure that's what the ecstatic called it after doing a copious ammount of drugs.
>>97467151>The Proctor slut didn’t get an invite
>>97467100BL2 was not nearly as bad as what they did to Hunter: The Reckoning in V5. That splatbook alone was criminal enough to condemn nuWoD to the electric chair.
>>97467223Yeah that's a deal breaker. If the apartment isn't prepared to deal with that basic shit odds are there's a lot more bull involved.
here's your Theurge, bro
>>97465185Who did all the ugly fatties art in House of Tremere? Fuck that dude
>>97467839I volunteer to assist with the Silver Fang's incest crisis.
>>97467849house tremere has several artist listed and i don't see a signatureso no idea sorry
>>97466551>adults all turn into sociopathic calculating elders even if they were never like that before the embrace>children must stay children forever and can NEVER change because...
>>97467162>>97467178>big windows and skylightsNo vampire is falling for this one, right?.
>>97465185I like whoever did a lot of Forsaken 1e art. While it can be pretty ugly, it scratches my brain right with the way it looks like a fucked up fever dream.
>>97466430Vampire ponies? Since season 4, about 12 years ago. But you knew that, didn't you anon?>>97466797>STs gloss over the existence of children in this settingI am imploring players to have families, especially children. One of the most memorable characters I've ever ST'd for had a kid younger brother. She had to get him to stay in a safe place, covering his ears and singing to himself, while she got into mortal combat. The perspective never left the kid, so everyone had to describe what was happening only using sounds and their character's words for a couple actions.
>>97467228You won't be talking shit when the flower man and his child come to life and jump off of the wall to pin you down, while Miss Salubri up there floats down to bite your head off.Don't fuck with Ecstatics.
>>97468570What does that guy have in his hands?
HtVAnon back again. Session went excellently last night.The Union cell in town are being manipulated by a Ghoul, who has instructions to clear the town for his masters arrival. Unfortunately, the town is overrun with Amaranthine Cats, hundreds if not a thousand of the bastards. The ghoul provided some of his vitae to the cell, injected into vermin in tupperware boxes. The plan is to drive about town with the bait and pied-piper all the cats into an abandoned factory and set it on fire. Minayo and Steward, our two Union members, were rightfully suspicious of this plan. The cats don't seem to be a threat so far, they're just everywhere. But the Union insisted and went ahead without them. Meanwhile, the Abbey had finally located one of their quarries. The Werewolf Elaina McKinley, the last of the pack that wiped out most of Lenny's previous team. Tommy is a new team leader, and joined the PCs on the hunt. McKinley was in an old and abandoned repair garage in the industrial estate, conventiently right over the road from where the Union were going to stage their cat-cull. Unbeknownst to the PCs, McKinley was observing a very small and weak Loci in the garage. An old window that leads to the Shadow. A small spirit is stuck in the garage. Speeding Metal Hastes Collision feeds off the essence of the Loci, but will not relinquish its favourite crashing car which is currently sat on several jacks and immobile. The PCs also observed a child with a VHS camera climbing the walls of the garage like Spiderman, he was wearing a Betty Boop Jao Saao mask and vanished over the lip of the building. This is the Auteur, an Autumnal Changeling in town for the festive season (halloween), making its own feature film of delightful carnage and horror. Tommy pulled Lenny aside, offering him a sip from his hip flask. Inside is vitae, rather stale but still potent enough. They both emptied the flask, swearing to kill the she-wolf and avenge their fallen comrades.
>>97466449>slop meant to appeal to theater kids and transThat has been the case ever since Vampire: the Masquerade first released. Why do you think that it has the largest chamber L.A.R.P. scene?
>>97467228Anon’s last words before being sent 10000 years into the past
>>97469286 The PCs entered the garage, McKinley was aware of them but played dumb. She has made a deal with Speeding Metal, and has removed the jacks immobilising it. It will help her kill the humans and protect the Loci, seems a good deal. The PCs continue to creep forward, until one of the cars suddenly roars to life, accelerating rapidly and nearly running Lenny over. It crashes into a thin cinder block wall, knocking it over and sending debris crashing onto Tommy and Steward. McKinley bounds out, biting down on Lenny's arm before retreating. Steward climbs into the animated car, trying to wrangle it under control with her Crack Driver merit. She succeeds for a moment. Minayo and Duncan open fire on McKinley, dealing lethal damage with regular ammunition. Lenny goes in for the kill with his silver blade, hitting her for a whopping 11 damage in one hit and crippling her leg. Steward loses control of the car, which rapidly reverses clean through another wall, nearly flattening Lenny again. Steward passes out in the drivers seat as the car buckles under the impact, the engine sputtering and dying. McKinley limps away, ruined by the silver blade. She drags herself to the window, shifting into Urshul and hoping to escape as Lenny strikes again, severing her other leg at the hip entirely. Tommy and Minayo rush in, putting the boot in as Lenny delivers the killing blow. Blood pumps from her severed leg, thick and heavy as she lets out an ear-splitting howl, one that shatters every window in the building. Finally, she dies, shifting back into a thin and wiry woman (with one leg missing and another mangled). Lenny and Tommy cheer, hugging eachother and shouting their vengeance to the sky. Over the road, a factory erupts into flame. Duncan had been covering the exit with his rifle, and he watches as a veritable tide of cats smash out a huge window and pour out into the street. Crossing the road at speed, they race into the garage.
>>97469333 Lenny nearly died in the ensuing feline-tide. Three aggravated damage as everyone swung fists, clubs and chains at the tsunami of cats that engulfed him. Tommy barely fared any better, stomping and kicking at the cats as they targetted exclusively Lenny and him. OOC, Steward and Minayo figured it was a vampire-issue, with Tommy and Lenny having ghouled themselves with a hip flask before the encounter began. The session ended with the gang dragging Steward, Tommy and Lenny out of the garage and into their vehicles and driving away before the fire engines showed up. They also took Mckinley's corpse as a trophy. Up on the roof, the Auteur adjusted its camera to watch them leave before observing the burning factory. I was a bit worried that a goofy animated ghost car and then an army of cats would be too much, but the players really enjoyed it. It was nice to finally have Lenny get his revenge also.
>>97469299Yes but Vampire is meant to appeal to *autistic and edgy* theater kids and trans niggas. Nu-nu Vamp will unironically dodge all the edge
>>97468029They don't change instantly, but yes if a child were to be a 150+ year old elder maybe they'd also be sociopathic and calculating. This usually won't be a PC though
>>97469561Tangential as hell but aren't elders supposed to be at least 300 years old or something along those lines? I get that it doesn't really matter but it does paint a different picture.
>>97470069Iirc ancillae are 50-100 or so and elders are 150+ right? LaCroix is an "elder" and he's from the French revolution
>>97470281ancilla don't get an age range, but V20 core puts elder at 200+. so yeah the youngsest Elders nowadays have seen shit like the greek war of independance.
>>97470366Interesting, my bad then
>>97470664To be fair later versions call WW2 veterans elders but like... what?
>>97470366Man I don't care what V20 says, Elder should start at 300, and all the 500+s should still look down on the 300-400 year ones. Just like how the 1000+ year olds look down on the 500+s. And the 2000+ ones look down on the only one millennia ones. And so on.
Promised werewolf bait coming through (Storyteller's Guide for CtD page 87)
What are all the ways a vampire can use to lower their difficulty when attacking with a blade?
>>97470871Autum people were right all along, we just didn't want to see the truth
>>97470953There is a single DA merit that allows you to do that.
Buddy, when did the fae ever do something actually positive?
>>97471041which one?
>>97469070No idea, but it looks kinda gross.>>97469364Never thought I'd see Amaranthine Cats in a Hunter game.
>>97471094It is called something along the lines of "proficiency (ability)", for some reason the modern-day version only allows you to pick computers.It costs like 3 dots and lowers the baseline of any rolls difficulty by 2
>>97471128I love them, they're a really fun idea that's a bit silly on the surface but helps sell the paranoia Vampires are meant to feel at all times. These ones didn't have much vitae in their systems at all so they were a bit weaker than usual, but they put the fear of god into the PCs that's for sure.
>>97471136I think you mean thisAbility Aptitude (1pt. Merit)You are particularly gifted with one Ability. Perhaps you are a poet of great renown or a master fleshcrafter. Within your specific Aptitude, reduce all difficulties by 2. Characters may purchase this Merit more than once, but Storytellers should feel free to veto any Ability selections that seem too powerful or unbalanced, especially for combat Abilities.Which... is probably off the table, but still an option with a lenient ST
>>97471089Just wait until redcap spring wizard turns the antediluvian into a normal human and eats him (+1 Glamour).
>>97470871>see Garou>zomg these guys are pretty cool for turning into big dogs>instead of asking them just mindrape them into being subservient poniesI'd seethe too frankly, even if I'd be into it.
>>97470836That's insane, even in the 2020's WW2 vets should be Ancillae or something. Fuck I'm pretty sure there were older ones in Bloodlines 1 or Redemption
>>97471157>Ability AptitudeSuch a good little merit.
>get ahold of devil-tigers dharma book>opening comicwtf these guys are assholes
>>97471303Well they're not called angel-puppies
>>97471303圆眼猪人再次显露了他狭隘的无知,质疑光荣天界中土贵族的吉祥智慧。你们整个半球都需要再教育,或者引发核浩劫。光荣的中国在各方面都优越。万桂非常真实,绝不是一群角色扮演者。他们比你那些臭臭的鬼怪吸血鬼强多了。不要质疑你的上级,否则你将走向死亡。
I wish I was a Solificato so I could autistically make potions and shit in my lab all day...
>>97471384Why do you want to be a mentally ill alchemist?
>>97471372I don't read chinese but those letters look arranged nicely and I can feel their chuunibyou aura
>>97470849This. These young whippersnappers think they're old but weren't even unalive for the fall of Carthage.>>97469286>Speeding Metal Hastes CollisionKek. I was sold when you posted about it a couple threads back but seeing it in the context of "there's also a woof+fae dickery+amaranthine cats+ a vampire plot" personally makes me think it's a bit much for what I'd want out of a Hunter game. I imagined it much more like a monster car in those old horror movies. Still, you do you anon, sounds like you guys are having a good time and that's what matters most.
>>97471406Cause it sounds fun. I would augment myself with an Intelligence potion (Mind 1) and then use Matter, Life and/or Forces with optional Prime to just experiment and hopefully not blow myself up. Then when I finish a new brew I'd make my hommunculus try it. Every time he does, the camera would stop and pan in on his face as he stares into it with vacant eyes and then says ''It's a living!'' like one of those animal ''appliances'' from the Flintstones.
>>97471440Just get a gf
>>97471303Doomp et>>97471372Tianmen Square 1989>>97471440Anon, consider making a Charisma potion instead so you stop being an alchemist nerd and start being an alchemist CHAD
>>97471384You can do that as a Progenitor. You don't need to be a stinky alchemist.
>>97471563>Make steroids instead of making funky mushroom juice for the same effectImagine being so banal
So really only the ability aptitude to reduce difficulty using swords to attack? Shame
>>97471583Yeah theres a reason why every game down the line basically drop difficulty mods.
>>97471579Banal is a compliment at this point. I'm so fucking sick of the "whimsical" side of WoD. Fuck werewolves, fuck mages, fuck changelings. Give me the Inquisition, give me the Technocracy, my ideal WoD is a power fantasy of me cleansing the world of all of these mentally ill special snowflake cunts and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.
>>97471704>t. Wayward Creed Imbued Hunter
>>97471583valeren, temporis, path of focused mind, one of berserk meritspretty sure there are more, but i can't remember them off the top of my head
>>97471579Sleepers buy steroids all the time and believe that they work, shroomsare for junkies or crazies. Traditions stay losing :)
>>97471430It absolutely is a lot yes. I'm trying to frame the campaign as sort of a tipping point when the world goes from as-it-was to "truly, we live in a world of darkness tm". I'm really just trying to set up enough vague plot points that I can revisit in future campaigns with different splats and then use their existence as a "no they were always there, honest". We're approaching the campaign final act I think, so I need to have my Puppeteer Slasher step back into the limelight and seem both more monstrous and more justified than all these other fuckers skulking about at night.
>>97471768god45 is based though, anon is simply autistic
>>97471768waywards wouldn't let technocrats life
me when I am in a accomplishing absolutely nothing competition and my opponent is the Tal'mahe'ra
Which splat is responsible for this?
>>97472265Tal'mahe'ra vs Disparate Alliance who is more worthless?
>>97472297>Iteration X casually letting their pet project interact with sleepers Control isn't gonna be happy
>>97472365One of the ai created a religion, and started evangelizing.
>>97471769>Valeren, ••••• Vengeance of SamielPretty nice. Instead of lowering the difficulty it makes it an automatic success and a shit ton of damage. I’m definitely considering it.>Thaumaturgy: Path of the Focused Mind, ••••• Perfect ClarityNot bad. Though I wasn’t thinking about going into the wizard path. It’s why I haven’t checked the Path of Transmutation (the one that can reinforce a weapon to do more damage).>TemporisI don’t see it? Though I guess a single attack (or more in a single turn with a generous ST) counts as an automatic success if you paralyzed your opponent in stopped time beforehand?>BerserkOh yeah. Pretty cool one. Last ST I had forbid it so I completely forgot about it.
You want some conspiracy? Here's a conspiracy.I trust WoD, as perhaps the only general on this board, to be both old enough to recognize the name and mature enough to let the information sink in and ponder the implications without derailing the thread. Please don't disappoint me.
>>97472606>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3raBCcErYEM
>>97472606Holy shit you losers are still on the Epstein meme? The FBI already confirmed it was all fake news. Peak Trump Derangement System
>>97472606>Virtual Adept cell contacted by Seventh Generation
>>97472716this is the most french-looking man I've ever seen speaking english in color.
>>97472716epstein stuff starts around minute 17
>>97471579>Nooo everything needs to be whacky and mystical because...it's just supposed to be ok?!Milklings seething at science again
>>97472815Technocr*ts need not reply
>>97461252Last game was a werewolf setting in Florida swaps that caused so many Bog related problems from hillbillies to having to swim through mud and mucus just to escape a WereFrog that was just too strong Also a player was this super edgy Red Talon but masterfully wrapped it back around by giving him the name>Dances With ChickensAnd all the edge is compensation for renown that can't go above one
>>97472815To be fair, most of their bullshit is a counter movement to the rest of the game lines mentality and premises. They need mysteries because they know what happens when people know what's up. They need to be separated from the mundane because how real life makes WoD's supernatural influence on politics seem positive.
Would a BSD get along with vampires?
>>97471166They lack the clout to affect others plotlines, let alone kill a major figure from the main splat.
>>97472994depends on the vampire and the BSD. there have been dancers that got along with lasombra, tremere, baali and malkavians but nosferatu mention in their clan books that they have been fights because they both want the same real estate (severs)
>>97472945Give us the rundown on this group and their actions. This sounds interesting>>97472994Likely not, both are pretty stuck-up with a superiority complex and autism
>>97472994Probably not, in most cases the difference is power would be too much to actually get along rather than enslaving one another depending on the vampire's powerset.
>>97472994they do in mexico allegedly and around cairo there is a pack that has a weaker avatar of apophis as totem and inside cairo there is a setite temple that forsaken set in favor of of full apophis worship so i assume these also get along
>>97472994If both are working for Pentex they'd probably listen to what their boss tells them to do and somewhat cooperate
>>97472994This begs the better question; Why aren’t the Garou Nation allied with the Banu Haqim? They both hate vampires. It seems an alliance would be beneficial to both parties.
>>97472994supposedly there are several unseelie changeling/ sabbat vamps/ black spiral dancer mix and match packs running around but we never see a example of them on the page
>>97473151Banu Haqim are path niggers who are not on the path of the beast so they ping as wyrm tainted harder than normal vampires on humanity they also worship a ancient blood god and have a bloodline of may or may not baali sorcerers
>>97473154They’re too busy fucking each other off-page, both literally and figuratively.
>>97473151Real question, when has the Garou Nation allying with anyone worked out? They're barely allied together.
>>97473151Banu Haqim claim to hate vampires yet they partake in Vampire society. Curious.
>>97473214corax seem somewhat okay with their "alliance" with the garou
>>97472462>Pretty nice. Instead of lowering the difficulty it makes it an automatic success and a shit ton of damage. I’m definitely considering it.was thinking about Rayzeel’s Song and Song of the Blooded, but if you like an automatic successes, good old Flower of Death celerity also would fit, i think>Not bad. Though I wasn’t thinking about going into the wizard path. It’s why I haven’t checked the Path of Transmutation (the one that can reinforce a weapon to do more damage).Awakening of the Steel also pretty nice path>I don’t see it? Though I guess a single attack (or more in a single turn with a generous ST) counts as an automatic success if you paralyzed your opponent in stopped time beforehand?it is Quicksilver Contemplation auspex-temporis combo power, my badalso Fortress of Silence obfuscate should workthere is maybe a couple of more, i think, but it is too much effort to dig them up now, no offence
>>97473214Back when Silent Striders and Mummies had a thing before Owl (based retard that he is) fucked everything up
>>97473271>Fortress of Silencenever mind, its Mental Attributes and Willpower rolls
>>97473273>fucked everything up>>97473266>somewhat okayI rest my case. You may be able to ally or work together with a single Garou or even pack. But as a whole, they're a ticking time bomb who are just as likely to sperg out on you than to help you.
>>97473273and the silent striders leaving fucked up the entire osirian league and made horus think that he can't rely on cross splat alliances which in turn doomed mummies to Irrelevancy because of their low numbers and caused the other members of the alliance to be picked out one by one by the setites because they couldn't stand divided. This also caused the creation of the order of hermes (isis and thoth sorcerers and mages fled egypt) and later clan tremere so you can in theory blame owl for thisso everyone involved was a retard beside, surprisingly, whoever was running things for Set while he was in topor (not named but probably Nakhthorheb)
>>97471157Ability aptitude is such an underused merit for obvious reasons, everyone and their mother bans it on principle.
What are some interesting Combo Powers using Fortitude? I need to flesh out a brood of Ventru.
>>97473014Long story short he had a deal with the ST to get extra dots in exchange for no renown Dances With Chickens was made around this idea of a powerful Metis that was cursed by a powerful spirit to fight impossible battles but never be taken seriously by the Tribes nore humansThen you have Chews On ToesRuns From DebtsBites Chest hairWho need a day to talk about but my phones on 8% and powers out
>>97473299Hunters should clobber the wolves and be done with the whole deal. At least the NSA, SAB, or Leopold can more or less be trusted in cleaning up the creatures of the night effectively. Even more so if the Imbued ever return to the Hunter's fold.
>>97473391Some auspex + fortitude combos to protect against mental powers could be interesting.
>>97473391>FortitudeKing of the Hill >Fortitude 2>Presence 2>Make yourself unable to be knocked off your feet.Iron Façade>Obfuscate 2 >Fortitude any>Mask any injuries to appear invulnerable.guy doesn't move and does not look hurt combine with Dread Gaze to scare the shit out of peoplethere is also >https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Denial_of_Aphrodite%27s_Favor> Dominate level 3 and Fortitude level 3.give presence the same generation weakness as dominate against you
>>97473457This angle works well with the how they are friendly with the Malkavian prince.>>97473482All of those are very good powers to have.
You became a werewolf (apocalypse). How angry are you about that - on a scale of 0 to 10?
>>97473574Let me check my birth moon... 2 out of 10.
>>97473574Probably 7 I guess? I'd probably try to go on with having a normal life despite all the bullshit. I'd be mostly angry about having a huge target on my back
>>97472994There's an Infernalist (Wyrm) Malkavian Methuselah (young Methuselah), Petaniqua, that hangs out with BSDs. Most vampires? No. >>97473151Ass*mites are the worst clan so I'm not surprised even L*pines can't tolerate them, even if they both enjoy acting like violent spergs.
>>97473309>owl may have indirectly caused the birth of the order of hermes>which means he’s likely responsible for the technocracy existing We may have found the one (theoretically) sentient entity in WoD that may have fucked up more than Caine>>974735740. I get to turn into a hot wolfman and can literally get laid using aura alone>but what about everyone being too terrified of being near youEh, I’m not the most social guy anyway
>>97473574Is there some negotiation where I can pivot into being a Gangrel instead, or is this like I'm held at gunpoint and forced to become a werewolf? If so, I'm at a 9 for pissed.
>>97472754>Men In Black got to this poster
>>97473574Rollin, probably a 10 then I die in a factory bombing
>>97473542>Malkavian prince.I give the city three months before everything's on fire and half of the vampires wind up dusted.
These lyrics have been stuck in my head all day. Which character(s) does it best describe?>I'm so completely original>My new look is all the rage>I'll wrap my small intestines 'round my neck>And set fire to myself on stage
>>97473754>where I can pivot into being a Gangrel insteadNo, you are a dog.
>>97473309>>97473733>Set won by doing nothingBased??You can't do shit if you have 0 rage by the way
>>97473909I figured the rating is about how unhappy you are with becoming a garou
>>97472310>>97472265>>97472265I repeat what I've always said. The idea of "it's antes playing both sides all the way down in ghost Enoch" is cool. The fact that it's a super sekrit club with all of the literal who bloodlines with a couple dozen members worldwide at most that stand out fucking everywhere, including things like Mages, Abominations, Infernalists and Bahari, composed of cults within cults that actually all hate each other and consider the sect a useful tool at best is stupid.It should use the Dark Brotherhood model. It's Five fingers, with the Thumb taking orders directly from the Aralu. They infiltrate key locations such as the Inner Circle/Inconnu and the proximities of the Sabbat Regent, as well as key locations with important events happening. Nothing short of the paygrade of the fall of Carthage, the imprisonment of Kupala, the Baali Wars, the Crucifixion or the Avatar Storm should call for their direct involvement. No figures below the likes of Mithras, Michael, or Ur-Shulgi should even know of them.Their small size should be their strength in remaining hidden, yet also be their weakness in their grasp and vision, suffering from failure to catch up to the modern world and its rapid changes. The Inner Circle meets every 13 years? How about 130? The Cam-who? Eternity has a way of making you see any new trends of the young as a passing phase.
>>97474114Ah, then maybe. Figure being on some wagie's shitlist for breathing as a furry might be worth at least 1 anger rating
>>97473408Alright anon I'll be waiting for the Gestalt when you return. Also thank you for posting and the names, very kino
>>97473574Zero. I'd be the only magical creature on earth, able to regenerate, travel unseen, etc. All I gotta do is ofuscate my nature & I could do nearly anything I want in this world. Rob a bank through the umbra, kill my enemies, start a cult, it'd be great
Hey guys watch this. I think Werewolf: the Apocalypse is pretty cringe.
>>97472606I wonder how much Entropic Resonance/Jhor moot got for creating 4chan.
>>97474935Hunter: The Reckoning is better than any werewolf book. Hunter: the Hunted ll is as well. Werewolf-fags will stay quiet though.
>>97473266that's only because the Corax can fly and the Garou can'tsame reason why Gangrel is the only clan that is known to occasionally interact with Garou and live.
>>97473265>WE HATE VAMPIRES>what's that Ur-Shulgi? actually do the things we say we are going to do?>AAAAAAAIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE SAVE ME CAMARILLA-SAMA!!!!
>>97461758Scales of Sin should get more appreciation because it ties into both the abrahamic snake imagery and the ancient Egyptian book of the dead (specifically the weighing of the heart against a feather). Seems like a sex club or cult for the rich/famous that could be used to scout talent.
AAAAAA SEX WITH LILINOT AAAAAAAAAA COOMING IN THEIR LOOSE PUSSIES AAAAAAAAOnly DreamingChads will understand this esoteric message.
>>97474935I only got one book out of that, Rage Across Appalachia, and I'm still tickled that it has "I swan" in there, even if my grandmother said "I swanny" instead
>>97473852You would be surprised how far the right derangement can take them.
Now that both the short Technocracy thread (sorry about that) and the Hunter thread are shoah'd while we're in February it may be a good idea to consider options for another RP. I respect science bros for the technocracy thread, but we should keep it away from being faction specific. Imo, we should consider Mummy or another niche splat before we do a bigger one.
>>97476112>Technocracy threadAnon...I'm pretty sure that one was a troll thread. Also, I think we should wait a while since most anons ran out of ideas. Thanks to all who participated btw
>>97473574Am I transported in WoD? Because if not, then probably 3/10. Where I’m from people are a bit too green crazy for my taste. Like they want to ban fireplaces and any fires made by civilians because it’s bad for the environment and the smoke is bad for your lungs m’kay.
>>97476205All of them are troll threads
least bloodthirsty euthanatos
>>97476402>Wheelers are psychosWater is wet and the Syndicate rules the world, more news at 12
>>97473408>Chews On Toes>Runs From Debts>Bites Chest hairThe best names I've ever seen I'm using Chews on toes as a hunt
>>97473391Take out of clan disciplines to add spice>Obfuscate to become an invisible wall or poltergeist >Combined with animalism and role player of werewolf>Add Blood magic and become a Chinese Wushu story Monk, nothing is more terrifying than a invincible wizard slowly coming at you with a fist full of boiling blood
>>97476349Certainly gw started as one but I think it was genuinely fun. Hunter one wasn't a troll thread though
>>97476349First woof thread was a troll but others were made as proper RP ones. Hunter had a quality posts from both CofDg and oWoD.
>>97475209Thanks anon, that was exactly what I was going for with that one!
I've recently been seeing more of this dude on a memesite. He dresses like a goth/vampire & has his face all painted white with black lipstick & eyeliner. He seems like just another podcast grifter dude talking politics. I don't really know who he is or whatever but just his look & tone has I sliced me to add a Zoomer Vemtrue political Podcaster as some sort of background character to any of my future games
>>97476488>and the Syndicate rules the worldThat's a weird way to spell New World Order. As much as the money-printers like to pretend they run things, the NWO can force them to run unviable markets at a loss with their utopian experiments whenever they want.The only thing the syndicate can do is cry about it when the inevitable market correction hits and they lose quadrillions in space stocks because a NWO middle manager had a "Great Idea".
>>97475339>unironically liking the kith obligated to break oaths and backstab you to not die of banalityThe fuck is wrong with changeling players.
>>97477577NWO is full of bad ideas and professional middle managers of willwork but not even they are immune to budget cuts and sleepers relovting once the inevitable market crash comes.Good thing Control is keeping them from trying their most retarded ideas.
post examples of splats coping hard
>>97477933Too lazy to look for it but there's a bit about Nephandi not being just demonic devil worshippers.
>>97477958hey man some of them are so evil not even the demons want them!
>>97477958That's technically true. Some of the worship the Wyrm/Entropy or Deep Umbral aliens.
>>97477933the giovanni of all people...
>>97478038house kindred behavior
>>97477933>>97478038Isn't every splat coping going on about how "We're not your average [x]" when you read their books?
ideas för next TQ?
>>97478092Have you noticed any changes to your dick after the embrace/awakening/whatever?
>>97478092last time you died ingame?
>>97478092Mixing minor and major splats: Y/N?
>>97478132>>97478147fuck it used both>>97478170>>97478170>>97478170
>>97464180>>97464153you actual children.I played A LOT OF MAGE from 2000 to 2003, some 4 separate campaigns worth.Most people don't get it.but that is why you play.you sort the wheat from the chaff....
