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https://archidekt.com/decks/19050809/runo_stromkirkthis is the first draft of my Glarb sea creature deck
Your Honour, this is a black thing isn't it?
>Pull a wistfullness>Oh, this would be good for bernard>Oh, wait, no, because the new token wouldn't have any etb because no mana was spent to cast the token copy
>>97507396I pulled one and had the same dilemma, there's not many ways to abuse it in edh so just trade it in for the standard players
>>97507412I kind of like the new evoke elementals because I have a strange obsession with Crystal Shard.
>>97507465I fucking love crystal shard, it's a jam in Emry
>>97507412you put it in new ashling since you can get both effects off the evoke (4)
How many flicker abilities or things like Aether Vial can you run before Containment Priest stops being worthwhile?
>>97507506It does seem a very versatile card, like the bastard child of a charm spell and a troll of khazad. It struck me as very jack of all trades master of none so I didn't put it in my ashling deck but looking at it again at 2 mana it's floor is a naturalize or drawspell with upside so I see almost no reason not to run this over another piece of interaction
>>97507560like 2 or 3 BUT you can also just consider containment priest a dead draw if you're ahead in flicker and use him to crutch opponents when you're not
companionstonksbros how are we feeling?
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
The artifact and combo players in my pod need to be taught a lesson. I'm building this fuck and teaching them what it means to play some good, honest Magic.The real questions is: how the fuck do I protect him from the rampant removal? Do I just run a fuckton of the normal green ramp, and just replay his fat ass when he eats a removal?
Does anyone have the full artwork used for Faldorn in her deck box? I cant for the fucking life of me find it anywhere on the internet. She is smiling with the two wolves around her
>>97507668You use green protection spells and eat the damage.
>>97507668there's a handful of flash creatures with protection effects on etb, otherwise activated abilities, your other annoyances like the required possibility storm you always run in ruric thar, or just >>97507699
>>97507723why would you want Possibility Storm in his list? Is it just to force them to cast 2 spells and eat the 12 damage if they want to resolve anything?
Cyclonic rift should eat a ban way before rhystic does.Trvth nvke
https://moxfield.com/decks/2y8aito7vESasf_MXlT0NwSo I've been brewing this in my down time today, and could really use pointers. This is my first real time building an in-format deck by myself. I'm at 77 cards and I'm not really sure of what else to add.
>>97507798Nah Cyc rift isn't nearly as annoying. It also costs a ton of mana.
>>97507811youll probably want a board wipe or 2, blasphemous act and star of extinction are my usual go-tos, and in turn you'll also want more protection yourself. snakeskin veil, tyvar's stand, heroic intervention and such. also draw shamanic revelation and rishkar's expertise are big draw for big creatures.
>>97507816>instant spell asymmetrical board wipe>its not broken because it costs mana>When abusing big mana is a fucking joke in this game.
>>97507311I love this card like you wouldn't believe. I still play Phyrexian Arena too. >t1 dark ritual + arena hits like no other opening
>>97507811I'd say like two more big mana creatures with cost reductions/alternate costs; a few more draw sources like garruk's packleader, uprising, elemental bond; some other ways of bouncing creatures so you can cast your commander again, like temur sabertooth or kogla; and then fill the rest with ramp. haste enablers maybe.
>>97507840Yeah pretty much. A 7 mana effect is usually worse then 3 mana draw a card whenever anyone does anything.
Creature teferi won't let me flash in morphs/cloaks/the other one due to the way he's worded, right? It needs to be 'as though they had flash' like orrery and leyline?
>>97507966Teferi and morph works.
Has anyone finished or is going for the 32 deck challenge? I'm up to 13 now. I have no idea what to build next. Maybe Sultai? But that is going to be very expensive, and all my good cards in those colors are already in decks.
>>97508033I'm actively trying to limit my decks to 13. As soon as the rest of my shit dick cards come in I'll be there.
>>97508033No. Especially with 4c and 5c the end result is just a slop pile. Even at 3c when you're doing the challenge your decks will rapidly start homogenizing when you're making ten of them. Just stop at:>One monocolor deck>One 2c deck>One 3c deckWith the challenge of not reusing any nonland cards.
>>97507966Morphs are cast for morph cost as an alternative cost.
>>97507668>>97507699Use something to give him lifelink. Problem solved.
>>97508038Why 13? That's an oddly specific number.>>97508066Slop pile? Sounds like fun and something to slowly improve. I try to make all my decks play differently, so homogenizing isn't a problem, especially when I limit myself to cards I have instead of buying/trading cards.
>>97508190I have a deck box that holds exactly 13 double sleeved decks.
>>97507668pic related
is he fun to play? ive never really made a spellslinger deck, would he be better as izzit or dimir
I played 2 games on Tabletop Sim with my buddies, 3 player games.I won with Burakos and won with Taii Wakeen. Against Grist and a weird mono B Phage the Untouchable list. I definitely loaded 2 sweaty decks and it showed. My matchup against Grist with Taii is really strong because I can potentially draw upwards of 10 cards in a turn by blowing up tokens. I think the Phage deck was not stacked enough to handle the totally twerked out Taii list that I loaded. They did collectively destroy my commander at least three times. I had to Deflecting Swat one attempt. And I had to Reprieve another. I absolutely misplayed my hand as well by in a couple ways so that win felt kind of bad.Burakos deck pulled out a grindy combo win with a Warren Soultrader, Krark's Clan Ironworks, Mirkwood Bats and Secure the Wastes. It happened late enough in the game Im surprised I was able to survive that long. I Demonic Tutored for a Tymna which was an odd play. But it turns out having the full party for the Coveted Prize cast is extremely important. I fetched the Soultrader with Coveted Prize and played Ironworks for free.
>>97508033>Tfw more than 50+ decks>Tfw still not completed the 32 deck challenge
>>97508033>32 deck challenge?Fucking Autism. Why should I make multiple 4 color decks or run Gaydrazi? Fuck you
Got this deck and its fun but the mana curve is high as fuck, what's some 1 drop stuff i can put in here
>>97507396>>97507412Simic adjacent stuff has a lot of ETB doubling. I put it in a sultai deck and got to do a UUBB hardcast with Yarok out. Value felt real nice. Get some Starfield Vocalist/Panharmonicon type stuff
>>97508417Damn. Impressive. What is your first deck and favorite deck? How long have you been playing?
>>97507840The card doesn't need to be banned we just need to start taking pinkies off the mongoloids who play game stalling board wipes with no game plan or closers
>>97508428festering mummy/vile-bile boggart, hapatra's mark, scar
>>97507798Virtually no current card existing actually deserves a ban.
>>97508536Eh, I think the big boy draw cards are tenuous at best. They reduce so much variance and excitement. Why would you do something fun when you can just ad naus or necro for 50 billion? Breach is also the universal standard wincon, but I dont mind too much.
We don’t need bans. We need creative counter tech. With all of the card printing.. add solutions to commander only card slots to not impact other formats.ExJeremy’s willIf a player would may, instead they must. Trigger abilities also have ‘you lose 4 life’Scooby Doo, Rapist of Time0/4At the beginning of your endstep, exile a permanent of each type you control.If a permanent would enter the battlefield, or a spell would be cast for no mana, you may reveal this card. That permanent enters as a copy of scoob, and that spell becomes a copy of scoob. BrainfartSplit secondChoose a player.If that player has demonstrated an infinite loop, that player loses the game. Domain expansion: ruinous haunting echoesYou may reveal this before the game starts and resolve it before the first turn. Search each opponents’ library for any cards. For each card that isn’t a basic land and shares a name in another deck, that player loses 10 life.
>>97508547Couldn't disagree harder if I tried
The only justifiably bannable cards are talismans (arcane and all others), sol ring, and command tower. All are format warping and see far more play than cyc rift or thoracle or rhystic
Ban Island.
Ban all instantsBan all sorceriesBan all planeswalkersBan all enchantmentsBan all battlesBan all artifactsI fixed Magic.
>>97508570I will play my mountain for the turn. When I have 5 of these you better watch out for Valakut!
>>97508550Haters gunna hate. Give me paradox engine then so I can draw a billion.They arent like... too strong but they are linear. Ad Naus in particular forces a fairly narrow design. Sure you can do the same thing in other ways, but I think without them people would have to work slightly harder to do fun things. And from there it will tell you which is what. I also feel a lot of commanders that draw a card when things happen lead to very narrow design space, but after the big dick draw cards are minimized it's a matter of spot fixing.
>>97508570WotC is already heading this way with the rampant creature powercreep.>Keywords>Effect 1: Set up effect 2>Effect 2: Win the game
>>97508655Epstein brained
>>97508583You one card out of 99? Not it I beat you to beath with my manlands first.
What is the chuddiest deck I can put in these vtuber sleeves I found at my LGS?
>>97508758Kinnan.
>>97508758>vtumor>trans rights colorsI don't think anyone will think you're a chud no matter what you put in those sleeves, though maybe that's the point
>>97508615Shittiest example you could've picked.
>>97508758No clue what Chud means since it just seems like /pol/ speak for based.
Could someone please recommend me a mono blue commander that isn't artifact, draw, or spellslinger focused?Preferably something complicated.
>sold my imperial seal and bought a demonic tutorI should have done this forever ago.
>>97508771Get those eyes checked
>>97508771>Pippa Pipkin >a trans icon
>>97508790It's not complicated, but this fits the bill unless you equate voltron to an artifact deck
>>97508790This dude's pretty fun, a bit weak for 2026 but fun nonetheless.
>>97508832Do you think anyone knows who that is?
>>97508774Okay sorry here's nonlegendary Kinnan.
>>97508853I like him. Thanks anon!
>>97508854yeswould you like a youtube video of her saying she's going to shoot up a walmart?
>>97508854you are asking a board of terminally online commander players. everyone here has some idea who pippa is.
>>97508839>only just today realized that the guard from the Shawshank Redemption sounded oddly familiarIt's so obvious in retrospect.
>>97508900Really doubt that
>>97508902He's pretty based
>>97507311I made an infect Frank Horrigan deck. I know, not very unique but I ive always wanted to make a proliferate deck and ive been meaning to make a Golgari deck anyways. Is Infect considered unfun in bracket 3? Outside of Tainted Strike its not designed to kill quickly.
>>97509016He's fantastic as Lex Luthor. Like Hamill as the Joker or Konroy as Batman, it always feels a little wrong when I hear someone else voice him.
I'm so tired of retards in this game opting to blow up something of someone who isn't in the lead because "might as well gun for second."
>>97509125>my rhystic didn't stick: the melty
>>97507692
>>97508758Baylen Hare Apparent deck>on theme>naya is the goodest of good guy color mix >do everything commander>tokens+combat damage wins cause the most seethe among brainlet players>builds itself and heavily supported>anime art100000% pipkin approved gigachud deck
>>97508033I could never do the challenge, I have quite a few decks, but I realized I simply hate building solid manabase for more than 3 colours, and I absolutely despise some colour combination. Like Bant, Azorius, Boros, Selesnya, Naya, Jeskai... I always wondered what they have in common, and came to conclusion that white is disgusting, and blue isn't that much better. I don't get you guys, you give me the creeps, being all controlling and literal no fun allowed nazis. So my challenge is going all black. Plus the occassional Simic/Izzet/Temur, some of you blue guys are alright, don't go to school tomorrow.
>>97509016>>97508902also Kurgan in Highlander
Got a quick clarification question about this guy. When it dies, it specifies the owner of this card. That would be the player who actually owns it, right? I built my tinybones deck yesterday and needed to get to 100 with something. Plus I like it thematically in the theft deck.Also any other thematic cards you guys think might fit into the deck? Got briber's purse for example.
>>97509368owner is the one who has the card in their starting deck, controller is who has it on their board.
>>97509371Yeah figured that'd be right, just wanted to be sure. Cheers.
>>97509368Owner is a person who actually owns the card, which can be different from controller, but the distinction doesn't really come up outside of steal/anti-steal techs.
>>97509086Yes, it is considered unfun. But virtually everything is considered unfun outside of "cedh" because retards don't understand you take some kiddie gloves off in B3, so you shouldn't really care
AhemBan Rhystic StudyBan Smothering TitheUnban Sundering TitanFuck the hybrid mana rule
>>97509270Nah, this is her card artwork. I meant the one used like "promo" on her deck box. Her eyes arent glowing and she is in a kneeling position, but thanks for the try
>>97509368>the owner means the owner?we may never know the answer
reading the card explains your sad life story
>>97509368Do you actually own the card? If you proxy it, you cannot really own the goat.
You gaybois are gonna be real upset when the ban announcement is just moving Vivi to the GC list.
>>97508758the most important thing is that you include the smug anime smothering tithe no matter the financial cost
>>97508771holy frickin rent free
>>97508033There's literally no point to doing this whatsoever why don't you just build what you find fun
>>97509812>haha we insert ourselves into every hobby community and now you dislike us!!!!! that's a win for us!!!!!!
>>97509828seem the only constant is you.
>>97509831>NOOOOO UR JUST LE HECKIN TRANSPHOBE!!!!Fear and hate aren't the same thing, but sure.
>>97508033I will tell you what to build next if you post your Oros list.
Not even kidding.
I just want to make fun tribal decks or decks based around cool ideas. dont even care about the power level just want to have fun with my frends. problem is my friends play shit like eldrazi and helga combo lol
>no seriously guys this time for real
>>97509855>black pyrohemiaOkay.
>>97509869Other way around actually. Pestilence was printed first, pyrohemia is a color-shifted version of it first printed in Planar Chaos.
>>97509869sit down, zoomie
>TQI haven't made a single mono-black deck without him ever since I first got him. He's proved himself so many times, the thought of ever removing him from my current list is a sign I'm having some sort of mental breakdown. I love him.
>>97508066>I am not creative, therefore no one else can be: the post
>>97508548Its hilarious how many times you have posted variations of this whingelist lmao
I would advise investing in this meme ahead of next weeks announcement. It's value is going to the moon, unlike dockside.
>>97508832>literally a man pretending to be a virtual girlNo... it fits.
>>97509837your strawman is boring.
>>97509368Surely this card was supposed to say controller right???? Cause otherwise the card makes zero sense>blocker you can just have>your opponents can make it weaker and take control of it>no matter how many times they do this you benefitThis seems absurd, SURELY ITS A MISTAKE SURELY IT IS SUPPOSED TO SAY CONTROLLER RIGHT?
>>97509968Ya I have a nice proxy of this is use as much as I can. Absurdly powerful black card.
>>97510063Your opponents draw cards when they gain control of it, dumbass. They're also benefitting, and probably more then you since the benefit you get is delayed.
>>97510080Yes, those are the first 3 words anon, that was not lost. It still seems a retarded card that only morons would touch.>hmmm I can draw 1 or 2 cards but he will draw 5 what should I do!!!!!>1 or 2 is more than 5 by the way now xDBrainless design resulting in a dogshit card that will never be played.Also its not delayed you fucking dipshit, because they gain control of it, at which point you can start dumping mana into it so those 5 cards youre guaranteed are now more like 6 or 7. Dogshit card. Dogshit design. Tailored for retarded zoomer brains
>>97510080>its delayed and I cant read by the wayKill yourself you fucking retard acting smug when you cant even properly analyze the card.
>>97510106Are you the kind of retard who thinks people also pay the 1 for Rhystic?At 99% of pods that card says “pay 1 to draw 1 and worry about the consequences later”It’s going to be a commander staple and all you can do is seethe
>>97510128Anon its obvious that when you judged the card you overlooked the fact that control changes and the person who played the card can activate it accelerating its death and drawing himself cards in the process.This will absolutely not be a staple as its truly a dogshit card. No one, who is a half decent player, will ever activate it. The fact you think what you think means im engaging with a literal retard.
>>97510136I don’t get what youre so angry about.You play it, every retard around the table takes a turn with it and draws 1, then it dies and you draw as many as 5. It’s excellent.>No one, who is a half decent player, will ever activate it.Like how everyone pays their taxes right anon? Everyone always pays for Rhystic and Tithe right?
>>97510163ntsa, but just a question to gauge you. your thoughts on wishclaw talisman?
>>97510024Creativity starts rapidly going out the window when you're forcing yourself to make 32 decks defined by color identity rather than any meaningful gameplay traits.
>>97510106>Also its not delayed you fucking dipshit, because they gain control of it, at which point you can start dumping mana into itCan you read the fucking card? It says ONLY AS A SORCERY dumbass. You can't "dump mana onto it" you can only activate it once a turn.
>>97510136>and the person who played the card can activate itDo you understand what “only as a sorcery” means?
>>97510106Or someone activates it once, draws a card, then sacs the creature.
>>97510163>angryWhat in that is angry? This is such a played out tactic by insecure people, give it a rest.The numbers arent confusing. There is no reason for any opponent to activate its ability. Its a losing situation no matter how you look at it. If this was a white card it'd be rightfully lampooned as a POWERFUL WHITE CARD.>retarded tax comparisonThis isnt a tax. You dont have to do this, and not doing it, means your opponent doesnt benefit.>>97510191>>97510194Why are the both of you pretending I havent read the card? After your opponents take it, can you or can you not activate it? Yes, you can. Which means none of the benefit to whoever played the card is really delayed at all! Genuinely dogshit design that will see no play.>>97510198Which.... still draws the person who played it a card.Honestly again, if this was a white card it'd be lampooned. Its truly awful. Anyone who runs it will quietly cut it after realizing its dogshit.
>>97510180It’s a budget option. Tutoring is much more powerful than draw, and there are plenty of black cards that just tutor without letting anyone else tutor. You would only run wishclaw if you were on a budget or had a plan to prevent your opponents using it.There are no cards like ONG which potentially draws you 5, and can act as sac fodder when it comes back to you
>>97510212Youre massively overvaluing each opponent drawing 1.This is gonna blow your mind pro-tour-wannabe but there’s an archetype in this format called “group hug” that’s all about giving your opponents advantages to buy time while you build a board and it’s incredibly viable
>>97510216>one of the most common cedh tutors>only on a budgetMy goodness i wasted my entire morning arguing with an actual dipshit holy fuck
>>97510228This is one of those branching path moments where the answer would be the same regardless.Behold the alternate timeline where I said it’s good>it’s very good actually you should play it>WTF YOU THINK LETTING YOUR OPPONENTS TUTOR IS GOOD? I KNEW I WAS TALKING TO A RETARD!!!!
>>97510212Alright so, you play this. Everyone activates it, drawing three. You activate it, drawing one. Now it needs to be activated an additional time or sacrificed to draw you final cards, meaning yes, it is delayed.
>>97510212>Which.... still draws the person who played it a cardAnd? You spent 2 mana to draw a card and drain everyone for 1. Them drew a card and got a sac. Seems like a fair trade to me.
>>97510227>>97510236What? None of my critique of this card has anything to do with opponents drawing 1 card. Literally nothing, you mouthbreathing ignoramus.THE CARD IS BAD, BECAUSE NO OPPONENT WILL EVER ACTIVATE IT, BECAUSE ITS A LOSING FUCKING BATTLE. AT BEST THEY WILL DRAW 1 OR 2 CARDS AND GIVE THE PERSON 5. JTS AWFUL. NO ONE WITH HALF A BRAIN WILL EVER FUCKING ACTIVATE ITS EFFECT.
>>97510243>THE CARD IS BAD, BECAUSE NO OPPONENT WILL EVER ACTIVATE IT, BECAUSE ITS A LOSING FUCKING BATTLE. AT BEST THEY WILL DRAW 1 OR 2 CARDS AND GIVE THE PERSON 5. JTS AWFUL. NO ONE WITH HALF A BRAIN WILL EVER FUCKING ACTIVATE ITS EFFECT.Which is why nobody ever activates Rhystic Study and it's super bad, right? Nobody would ever immediately benefit themselves even if it means the opponent benefits more.
>>97510243I drew 1 card. I don't care if you drew 5. I got a card out of it.
>>97510228wishclaw is cedh? i thought it was a garbage tutor you only ran if you had opp agent at the ready.
>>97510255Again which is why I have repeatedly said anyone with half a brain will not! Congrats for admitting you have less than half a brain buddy.>>97510251This isnt comparable to rhystic in literally any way. The facr you think it is just lets me know youre retarded.
>>97510263Even if nobody activates the card, it's still useful, because you... can put the counters on it yourself. It's in the "put -1/-1 counters on things" precon. In the set where putting -1/-1 counters on your own things is a set mechanic.
>>97510271Hell, this is argueably BETTER with blight then normally, because you can, like, blight 10 to burn everyone for an egregious amount.
>>97510243>NO OPPONENT WILL EVER ACTIVATE ITBut they will. I have the precon it’s in and someone always does. Someone needs a land or they’re digging for an answer.What year did you get your autism diagnosis? Legitimately. Because if you’d got it young then you should have received special care that helped you understand that what you think and what you would do doesnt mean other people think and do the same as you.
>>97510287>make copy of it>blight the copy >draw 5 cards and drain 5, every single turn
Should I replace Flawless Maneuver with Flare of Fortitude?
>>97510348Depends on your commander.
>>97509594Very witty and helpful answer, especially after it's been answered and acknowledged. Bravo. >>97509740See this is actually kinda funny. Take notes jackass.>>97510063Holy shit the chain this spawned. It seems pretty fucking good to me, especially in a theft deck where I want my opponents to have cards.
What exactly is MLD?
>>97510348why not include both? surely you can cut something worse
>>97510419That's a great question and its understandable that you would be confused.MLD stands for "mass land destruction". In Magic, mass land destruction means a spell or ability that removes multiple lands from the field in a single turn. Cards like armageddon and worldfire are common ways to achieve this effect.Are there any other magic acronyms you need help with?
Are there any spell polymorphs? Is tibalts trickery the only one? By this is mean something like>counter/exile target instant/sorcery, revealing cards from top of library til you hit an instant/sorcery and cast it
>>97510460My other board protection spells right now with Flawless are T-pro, cleaver concealment, and dawn's truce. Don't know if any of those are actually worse, maybe dawn's truce
>>97510464
>>97510464>>97510502
>>97508902He's also Lex Luthor and a number of other things
>>97510512I need a few more of these effects so I can run some psychotic izzet enchantress topdeck matters deck
>>97510502>>97510512Thanks anons! One doesnt work sadly and the other is unreliable but definitely works so I will include that. Appreciate the responses :DMy intended target.
>>97510536You got Commandeer and Sudden Substitution?
>>97510560>sudden substitutionMy beloved.
>>97508790>complicated>no draw>nonartifactsYOU DONT SAY?
>>97510616That's just Splinter Twin!
>>97508902Spongebob me boy, the enemy cannot press a button if you disable his hand.
>>97508790
I want to try and build my first equipment/aura voltron deck, and kosei sounds fun enough on a budget.anything I should consider? any secret tech?
>draws you 5 cards in your path for 2 manaWhy can't white get incredible card draw like this :(
River Song ETBs seem cool
>>97510697Mark of Sekiko. Big damage big draws big mana. I also wanted to build this guy but never did lemme see the list when youve made some progress on it :D
>>97510741it's also a great midwit filter just understanding how it workslike meltdownanon saying your opponent will spam it on your turn
>>97510756I never said that. People said it was delayed to get the card draw but that isnt true because you can activate it when your opponents control it. In a perfect scenario (for the owner) this draws you 6 cards, one opponent 2, and the other 2 opponents 1. No good player will ever take this deal.
>>97508548>Jeremy’s will>If a player would may, instead they must.I know this is a shitpost but I think this is a genuinely fun design for an artifact or enchantment.
>>97510777>take the deal>pull card that lets me win the game Guess I'm just a bad player huh
>>97510756But you are correct it is a good filter as retards and midwits will take a single card to give the black player 6, as evidenced by the retards ITT who said they'd do it.>>97510785Casing point.
>>97510777yea yea whatever midwitalso kinda funny you implicitly accepting the meltdownanon moniker lol
>>97510755sure. I already have a quickly thrown together list, but currently it's just a wild mix of various spells, equipments and auras that either come with counters, evasion or damage boosts. I will probably need to test the deck on several game nights to really understand what I need.
>>97510795Why would I care what you call me anon? You've revealed yourself to be a retard.
>>97510818oki doki melti melti anoni
>>97510794>Casing point.Case and point.
>agree to never take the goat>okay x2>second player doesn't not take the goat>you do not take the goat >last player "hmmm I think I'll take the goat, actually. Didn't draw anything. I'll pass">"Thanks, I'll take the goat back">"well If he took the goat then I'll take it to not be down on cards">goat has been nabbed 3 times, it is your turndo you take the goat?
>>97510871>I take the goat>draw my wincon >play it and win >other player calls me a midwit retard who doesn't know how to play the game
>>97510622Potentially. It is also mesmeric orb nonsense for thoracle (lame). It's also a nondeterministic storm hell card (cool). But if you want to get REALLY complicated, you run it with dudes that make dudes of the same type, and either aristocrats or KCI with my favorite new pet card
>>97508033I've finished it. Still more decks I wanna build, too
>>97510461Literal chatgpt post
>>97510871I flicker the goat, then tip my fedora to his opponents
>>97510419>>97510461>>97510924it's actually mass land denial. Blood moon is MLD too.yet another win for the human spirit and the Butlerian Yihad
>>97510871>Pic related is my commander>-1/-1 counters/counters in general are a part of my strategy anyway>Don't give a fuck what my opponents do because I'll likely still get some sort of payoff
>>97510419MLD is mass land destruction like armageddon and worldfire.meanwhile, MLD is mass land denial, which can be destruction, but also long term resource denial like winter orb, blood moon, or other stax effects.
>>97510957How can worldfire be mass land destruction if it exiles?
>managed to get my hands on an official brand new Fire Lord Azula playmatfeels good man
>>97510871I take the goat once and then sacrifice it to Lyzolda to draw yet another card. Now I am up a card over the opponent who played the goat and no one else got to molest the goat.
Hybrid change come on. I need to put this in boros decks for the lols
>>97510949I love this bitch so much in wide +1+1 counters decks. She's a total hate sink for removal since board wiping my army of giant midgets would cause an explosion of even gnarlier giant midgets.
>>97510901Nice!
>>97511035Im probably going to be retooling mine after all the counter support in the past couple sets.Mine was good but she just sort of became Generic Orzhov Aristocrats Combo Bullshit.If you have a list Id love if you could share it, but thankfully shes pretty straightforward.
>>97511057I haven't built with her in the command zone. She's a massive player in the 99 of Betor and Ardbert though. She'd be an instant include in counters Felothar too if I end up building that deck.
>>97509850I actually don't have it. I'll get on that later for you.
>>97510846I believe actually its Cáysund-Pointè, a reference to a mountain in the Loire region of France.
>>97510871>I take the goat>I have Melira and cannot put counters on creatures>draw for free
>>97510871Am I the only one that has no idea what the fuck goat this is talking about??
>>97510741>>97511310
>>97510741Oh. Into yawgmoth you go.
Ive started pretending to be jewish at my lgs and Ive gotten myself into a predicament. I have brown hair which is no long and kind of curls at the end. My name is from the old testament but that is a coincidence. Im a Christian.It all started when some idiot at the LGS commented on my hair and instead of explaining that I was too lazy to cut it or whatever, I just told him its a jewish thing. Later on an actual jew was playing commander with us and he complained about Dockside Extortionist being antisemitic. The original idiot was in our pod and he decided to ask me if I agreed as well since Im jewish. Then the actual jew at the table started asking me questions and trying to bond with me about it and said like "I should have known because your name makes it obvious" and all this. He invited me to attend his synagogue when I told him that I havent been practicing since I moved away from my parents.
>>97511476He smells a fink. You need to agree with EVERYTHING he says about being jewish. Asking you to attend his synagogue was him saying you should meet his community because he likes you and wants to vet you.Now what should you do? Why, build gwafa of course.
I so tired of pigs running the show
>>97511497Yup, sounds about right; tone deaf and retarded.
>>97511476compulsive lying is a serious disorder, anon. you should have followed the jew, because that's pretty much the only of finding like-minded people way people like you.
>>97511535call an ambulance I think I'm having a stroke
>>97511476Find out if he's Zionist or anti-Zionist
>>97511476The solution is to just tell the truth, the sooner the better. Normal people just go "haha im kidding" when they tell an ultimately harmless and humorless falsehood
>>97508033>5 mono>10 2c>10 3c>1 colorless>1 5cI'm skipping the 4c because there's really not enough to give them a unique identity that I jive with, so I'm stopping at 27.Mono>Imodane the Pyrohammer>The bear with Raised By Giants.>Light-Paws>Mind-skinner>Sheoldred2c Complimentary>Black Walz No3>Werewolves, haven't gotten a good commander for it yet.>Caradora, Heart of Alacria.>Shorikai>Etzio or Ramses depending on the group.2c Contrary.>Honest Rustein>Lightning Army of One.>Sub-Sunan, Luxa Embodied.>Denethor for now, may rework this one it's bad.>Captain Howler, Sea Scourge3c Complimentary.>No BRG yet.>Jetmir>Galea, Kindler of Hope>Alela, Artful Provocateur>Wick, the Whorled Mind3c Contrary>No RWB yet, still not sure what to do for it.>Mimeoplasm>Samurai with Isshin, Two Heavens as One (Used to be RW with Raiyuu the Storm's Edge).>No BRG yet.>Betor, Kin to All.>No Colorless, probably going Artifacts eventually though.>5 Color Ramos Dragon Engine.
>>97511476Jeez, anon, use the opportunity and network.
>>97511476Go to the synagogue anon, you're gonna meet your future big khazar milkers wife and be invited to all the shadow councils
>>97507668Dear refs,Scissors make me super mad, they're way OP and shouldn't be allowed, and the people who use them should be punished.Rock is fine the way it is.Love, Paper
>>97511565Every time. Every single time does this stuff they demonstrate a disappointing lack of taste.
>>97511681>food analogy
>>97511742You eat rocks?
>>97511476Use this in to smash some khazar milkers.
>>97510262You play it when you have two spare mana then activate it for 1 the turn you're going to win. It's like a DT with foretell. If you use it correctly it never untaps. If you're really using it correctly you've got some voltaic key nonsense and it untaps repeatedly with triggers on the stack.
>>97509850>>97511075Here you go, anon. Enjoy my janky, but fun deck.https://archidekt.com/decks/19723331/oros_deathtouch
>>97511742Whenever I win ante matches I eat the cards on ante, so i guess i eat paper
>>97511476You're in a little too deep at this point. The best you can do is pretend to "come clean" and say that it's just on your father's side so you never really practiced at all.
I have a problem with taking decks apart. I haven't touched my Hakbal deck in over a year but I can't bring myself to take it apart.
>>97511832is this something that happens to you with some regularity?
>>97511917When this happens to me I just do a pile shuffle, cum on the sleeves, and riffle shuffle it all back together again
>>97508033I'm fairly close without attempting it, just a few 2c decks and all the 4c decks. I could only do the 4c decks with the Nephilim rule 0 as options, most of them are more interesting/soulful than the single 4c commander that exists in the color combo and any combination of partners that make 4c.
>>97507620WDYM?
>>97511821I like the older battlecruiser style, thanks for sharing. I'm gonna pitch you Nevinyrral as an esper commander because he seems like he might be your style.
>>97511981Thanks. I'm not really liking that guy. I'll look into it more. I was preparing on making a straight up esper stax deck with Dromar there just for the colors and to have a 6/6 flyer wincon.If all four of you are playing similar powered battlecruiser decks, its the best. Two hours of absurd bored states, lots of near-deaths and unlikely comebacks. >>97511970>I could only do the 4c decks with the Nephilim rule 0 as optionsExtremely based.
>>97508790Lorthos
>>97509086It always, always depends on your pod.
>>97509855>>97509869These cards fuck in my stuffydoll.Dec deck
>remove banlist>bring back tuck rule>bring back old legendary rule>UB not allowed as defaultThere. I fixed the format.
>>97512168Eh. I'm fine with the current legendary rule. It makes mirror matches actually fucking possible
>>97512175Mirror matches should be rare. Problem is too many people run all the same Commanders or legendary cards because they never have to worry about them dying or getting cloned. We had much more diversity and careful consideration in decklists before that dumb rule.
>>97512194Bringing back the old legend rule won't fix that. Part of the reason why there was more diversity in what commanders people ran back in the day is because, to be quite frank, a it was a lot rarer for a commander to be good at one specific thing back then, so the commander running a specific type of deck was more interchangable and vice-versa. Nowadays, despite having WAY more legends to choose from, legendary creatures are usually designed with one, maybe two specific strategies/deck types in mind, which in turn means that if you want to run a specific type of deck, you have maybe 5 commanders to choose from that are actually good with that strategy, and if you go from the other way and want to run a specific commander, there's maybe 3 deck types that synergize with it. And those are generous numbers, for a lot of commanders nowadays, they literally can only one one type of deck. Literally all of the top 5 commanders on EDHrec have one type of deck they can run. With a couple you can get a bit funky, bit it's still fundamentally the same type of deck.
>>97510957>>97510939Is Back to Basics MLD?
>>97512254no because you should only be running basics below bracket 4
>>97512194nonew commander are just too good, do too many things, and are too generically goodso
>>97512254yes it's literally part of the examples gavin gave in his definition of MLD (mass land denial)/edhg/ kvetches over things they don't even read
>>97512283and once again gavin is wrong
>>97512274>t. is okay with PtE being W: Exile target creture.
>>97512289>card that shuts off lots of lands >not mass land denial
>>97512283They read it but they want something to bitch about.
>>97512283I've only ever seen this thing, I only recently got back into Magic
idgaf, I'm casting keldon firebombers in bracket 3
How will you adapt your decks to the eventual change of hybrid mana rules coming next week?>b-b-butthey wouldn't float it if it wasn't guaranteed like everything else they "ask the playerbase" about, it's obviously happening
>>97511917Same. Even have a Hakbal I haven't touched in a while as well. Eventually just got to go for it though. Take out the cards and start using them in a deck I'm actually playing.
>>97512421Hexing Squelcher and Vexing shusher go into all decks that touch red.
I'm refining a deck I made that relies on the commander. Do I bother including similar/redundant effects of my commander or is that just wasting slots that could be spent protecting my commander or having other synergies?
>>97512421I don't know why anyone wouldn't want it>Oh no, you can play monogreen reaper king?! Like that's going to fucking do anything amazing.
>>97512421guttural response in mono G and ignoring all else
>>97512459Hybrid mana cards in secret lairs can now go in more decks so they can sell more bundles
>>97512459It's not about putting less colors into 5C but rather the other way around you fucking mouth breather.
>>97512488Okay. Who the fuck cares.
>>97512440Hexing Squelcher isn't hybrid...? It's just red.
>>97506320I was not joking about the bean deckboxes by the way
>>97512421Nothing changes. I experimented with hybrid cards before and they kinda just suck ass.
>>97512505pretty fucking based, senpai
>>97512421that and gutteral response in all my red decks
>>97509342And the crazy ass cop in Pet Semetery 2.Seriously. Underrated as fuck role for him.
>>97512421The announcement is GCing Vivi and a couple other cards btw
>>97512505https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0DMGHd-DYQ
>>97512505You should cut the bottom of one open and put the deck inside then tape it up, when it's time to play open the top with the pop tab and take your deck out
>>97512505I;m thinking about thos beans
>>97512421I am gonna laugh when no actual mega changes happen.
>>97512545I did that with the one holding my dice and emptied them onto the table.Bottoms were held on with magnets.I have 3 tins of beans in a tub in my fridge
>>97512489Oh. Fucking. No.This card that is white and can be paid with by only white in all other formats can now be played in a deck that plays white. My poor little white boy anus will be completely destroyed forever by this
>>97512505I thought about doing something like this for carrying around tokens in a SPAM can once, but I couldn't be bothered to dull the edges of the metal so I just scrapped the idea
>>97512289>and once again gavin is wrongyour opinion isn't what matterswhat matters is your inability to accept that edh is gavin's world now and he is shaping it into his ideal
>>97512505I love this. You are now a Bean Boy, Lord of Beans. I will remember this way longer than anyone should.
Conspiracy like set, but for commanderBonus subgame>FavorsLike twilight emporium, each player has a few ‘favor’ tokens, one of each kind. This adds a currency system to deal making. Redeem them at any time.Example:1.) creatures this player controls can’t attack you until the end of your next turn2.) gain control of a permanent this player controls3.) choose a permanent you control. The next time it would leave the battlefield this turn, instead, choose a permanent this player controls. It leaves the battlefield instead.4.) you make all decisions and choose all targets of this player until the stack is empty. (You cant cast spells or use their abilities, only how they are used)
>I need to be allowed to use MLD at lower brackets where people aren't expected to be able to deal with it.We get it. You've been seething over a year about how people can tell you're a pubstomper.
>>97512666Why cant people deal with it, satan?
>>97512673(You) can't even properly use MLD to win, idiotall you do is durdle and waste time, even a cedh pubstomper respects people's timepeople like you are the reason paradox engine will never be unbanned
>not a cast trigger>can search ANY creature, not just green>can untap cradle>can discard ANY card, doesn't have to be a creature card>easily blinked, creating a tutor on a stick>can untap cradle>is green, so can be searched very easilywhat were (((they))) thinking?!
>>97512695he's french you dingus
>>97512673>Crack a precon, go to the lgs, shuffle up.>The deck comes with only 10 or less basics of the 38 land package>Guy plays bloodmoon turn 2.>Welcome to magic fucker.Why ask questions you know the answers to? Lower brackets are for newer players or just people trying to chill or don't have the money to buy every expensive card that can deal with MLD like free counters and etc.If you whine about it, you are a pubstomper, plain and simple.
>>97512692I dont do any of that. Not about me, have a coffee and pay attention. Why cant people deal with it? Why can some people deal with it but others cant?
>at the LGS>guy loses 2 games>asks if he can play his cEDH deck>rest of the pod is very "it's chill bro play whatever">thoracle
>>97512695Every tournament winner card is nuts
>>97512706>I dont do any of that.>I'm not like other girls!kekw>Why cant people deal with it? Why can some people deal with it but others cant?MLD is easily dealt with if people really wanted to, obviouslyBut that would mean you'll cry yet again, so you're not worth considering especially given your kind don't know how to use MLD to win anyway, GGs
>>97512704Oh? Lower brackets are for new and bad players? Are you saying new and bad players are the only people who should be in lower brackets? You know this came in a precon, right?>>97512726So if it's easily dealt with, why is it a problem?
>>97512731>You know this came in a precon, right?>dumbass anon doesn't know that's not MLD according to gavinsee how stupid you are and the real issue is not MLD but idiots like you trying their damnest to be taken seriously? hahaha
>>97512726If people really wanted to play against it they'd be fine with playing against it. But most aren't. In a non-rotating casual format some guard rails need to be put up to make sure design mistakes don't cause too much friction for players who want a "clean" game. There are mechanics people simply don't want to have around. The storm scale is an example of this on the design end. If even the designers understand there are mechanics that shouldn't be around in rotational or limited formats why can't players playing a casual game have a say in what's too much for them?
>>97512738So Gavin said it's not mld? Neat, he was right about something. Rare.
>>97512747>Neat, he was right about something. Rare.Now you realize how much of a fool you are crying over things you don't even read lol
>>97512738Replacement land destruction borders on alright, especially when it's spot removal. From the Ashes might still fuck someone's day up but I've seen enough Terramorphic/Evolving mana bases to know bracket 2 players are probably going to have the basics to fetch. From the Ashes also puts them onto the field untapped which my blue ass would love.
>>97512666I just don't use brackets. Makes shit a lot easier. Not my fault you feel "pub stomped" because you couldn't deal with a turn 10 worldfire that you had 3 turns pre-knowledge of. Run a fuckin counterspell.
If you want to bully lower skilled players and lower power decks, there are plenty of ways to do it without locking them out of the game.
>>97512754I read a lot. And apparently, according to gavin, I can run from the ashes and mindcensor in any deck I want. You seem to agree too.
>>97512761Personally I just play jitte and run an efficiently constructed deck with interaction. What are they going to do, play a spell that isnt ramp before turn 4?
>>97512758>I refuse to acknowledge that I am a pubstomping faggot.Weird flex, but alright.
>>97512761My favorite is Fogs. Let them build up their big stupid board only to lose when they greedily swing out.
>>97512762>I read a lot.sure senpai kun haha>according to gavin, I can run from the ashes and mindcensor in any deck I want. You seem to agree too.absolutely correct, because again, you don't know his definition and you've been whining for this long while being so ignorantand also imagine being so idiotic that you use mindcensor and not the actual better card for your strat, yet more proof that you actually don't know how to use MLDknock yourself out dumbdumb
>>97512779Based. Same. Especially with this little fella.
>>97512777>Nooooo use my systemNope.
>>97512782Stranglehold isnt better than mindcensor. Mindcensor has flash and can be tutored by 30 million things, dont be silly. Why are you upset? We agree I can do this whenever I want. What about this?
>>97512779Forcefield and Ensnaring Bridge have pissed off my regular pod more than winter or and static orb ever has.
>>97512805>Stranglehold isnt better than mindcensor. hahaha absolute nogames>Why are you upset?i'm not the one crying over MLD while not knowing how gavin defines it, just be glad you're being educated by your mtg superiors>At the beginning of each player’s upkeep, that player sacrifices a land of their choice.that's not MLD to gavin duh
This makes the weenie hut junior player seethe
>>97512821jhoira respects your time and does nothing wrong
What do you guys think of this card???Grixis ultimatumEach opponent shuffles and names a card that isn’t a basic land, then exiles cards from the top of their library until they reveal the named cards. For each opponent, pick a card exiled this way, you may cast that card without paying it’s mana cost unless that opponent chooses to lose life equal to the number of cards exiled this way that they own.
>>97512825>suspend it for 4 turns>no one does anything or even holds a counterspell>everyone dies>"WTF PUB STOMPING"
>>97512819Good to know it's safe for bracket 2. Where can I find his definition? I've reviewed 4 articles, three reddit threads, and skimmed a video I didnt care about. What is the rule specifically?
>>97512851If you cant find gavin's definiton of mld in his very first mention of the brackets system then there's no helping you anymore, so much for reading a lot eh?Have a nice day lol
>>97512827>they get unlucky>exiles over 90% of their deck cuz it's at the bottommillfag here I fucking love it
>>97512833How exactly is jund supposed to protect itself?
There is 0 reason this couldn't be printed again, but gotta say, buying one was really worth it.
>>97512827Random 7-mana "I win" sorcery. Could be balanced, just not interesting.
>>97512887Jund them before the worldfire comes out.
>>97512887You have 4 turns to beat the fuck out of them. You KNOW it is coming. Just fuckin kill them.If you and 2 others can't then maybe they should win? They also need a follow up to worldfire so it isn't some one card win.
>>97512489So literally the way the cards were designed?
>>97512927You just don't get it and you never will.
>>97512878Do you understand how mana vortex works and what it is? To summarize: >1) You really want me to be upset and are trying your best. It's adorable, you can probably try harder.>2) If I use two cards I can skirt these requirements entirely, by your admission. Let alone three.>3) Lower brackets are for bad players exclusively, which is why they cant deal with something everyone else can deal with trivially.>4) Some cards quantumn violate these rules based on situational variance.>5) The rules neither solve the issue nor help anyone.We cool here.
>>97512907>>97512920If "player removal" is the only response then all you did was create a reductive gamestate that pushes players to going under you and nothing else (this is something you really don't want if your goal is to keep games casual). At that point there's no interaction and anything else is just cope.
Sheldon knew better than the game designers. That's why he kept Coalition Victory banned. Now that it's a GC this card is terrorizing every game!The same will happen with hybrid mana and Barkshell Blessing.
Best edhg thread in a while
>>97512339
>>97512958To summarize>it took you THIS long to find gavin's definition>4 or more lands per player>does mana vortex destroy 4 lands every turn on its own? No it doesnt, so it's not mld>can a combo in theory bypass this? Ofc. But as expected from an idiot like you you didnt read gavin's followup faq on the same article that adding a spell that makes all lands creatures then boardwiping is a no no>you're this much of a moron that you cant understand that the fundamental problem of mld is that it hurts (You) too delaying the kill and wasting people's time and if you can bypass that it's not a problem, again gavin defines MLD as per PLAYER and not per OPPONENTSo yeah cry more about MLD while i deepglow skate picrel and blow up my opponent's lands without any issue whatsoever hahaha
>>97513026None of that had anything to do with anything. And you really dont understand how mana vortex works.
>>97513032>replies meekly for the sake of having the last wordConcession accepted
>>97512948Its ok youre a big boy dont be afraid to speak your mind
>>97511476Go and secure a 0% interest mortgage for a new house
>>97511476if youre american youre most likely circumsized so youre basically already a jew and you just need to act natural
>>97512825Great fucking rack.>>97512851The original toxic commander.
>>97512505Another of the deckboxes someone brought
>>97512973>Sheldon knew better than the game designersofc sheldon knew best, that's why his favorite card rhystic study is the spirit of EDH
>>97513038If that's what you want to call insulting everyone who plays those brackets, refuting the concept being an issue entirely, still complaining about something immediately refuted, and ineffectively baiting, sure.And so you're aware, newfriend, Mana Vortex reads: no player can ever increase the amount of lands they have ever again, and if they manage to do so, it only makes things worse for everyone.
>>97513064Holy shit
>>97513078and as you need to be aware for the sake of your mental health anon, gavin doesn't define "players can't play lands" as MLD so it's perfectly fine, just accept you're an idiot with a mind of a child that can never be taken seriously
>>97513064Amazing.
>>97513064>Lose game>Eat opponent's deck box
>>97513064>crumbs getting in the fucking sleevesI want to claw my own eyes out
>>97513074Imagine! Green having a way to give a creature +2/+2! It would be madness!
>>97513094You can just talk about magic without all "this". It's ineffective and unbecoming. Mana vortex is a MASSIVELY better card than that, particularly tutored onto the battlefield without using the stack. It seems you still dont understand the card, which is honestly impressive. If it isnt removed, it hardcaps lands and destroys them all. Worse, any idiot who thinks they can play around it is going to make things worse for everyone.
>>97513110It's funny how earlier you were whining that people cant deal with mld and why gavin soft banned it but when i actually give you a loophole so you can have your precious strat (that you dont know how to pilot btw) in bracket 2 you then cry how broken mana vortex isIt's almost like you're butthurt that everyone saw what a dumbass you are and you're just continuing this in a vain attempt to get back at me because your pride got hurt hahaha idiot
What I don't get is why is MLD not fit for bracket 3? I understand not playing it against B2 or precons but in B3 you expect some degree of competence?Like you intend to tell me my Sekkuar+Jokulhaulps "combo" can do shit in B4?
>>97513124No anon. You completely misread and made all that up. All I said is why cant lower bracket people deal with it and your headcannon filled in the rest. Then I demonstrated it was fine. Then I demonstrated the rules are hard to find in the first place. And then I provided you specific examples of extremely degenerate things within the rules entirely.And all you've said is "u mad, u bad, gavin". Are we done here? You really meed to practice your bait. Subtlety and tact goes a long way. As demonstrated.
>>97513147>give you a loophole in gavin's definition>nooooooo you're bad dont you see mana vortex is so broken!!!>...so mld should just be banned wholesale then?>noooo mld is fine people just dont know how to deal with it!You are so mindbroken it's hilariousAnyways, i ult dreadhorde general in the bracket 2 pod and win shortly after, GGs dumbass haha
>>97513128Because bracket 3 is the old "my deck is a 7".
>>97513179But an old 7 could run obliterate no? Also my Elenda deck used to run Cataclysm but it's not near B4...I really took a big hit from the bracket system. End of the day it's better than what we had before but the MLD thing is stupid
>>97513174Not what I said chum. Read VERY carefully, anon who lost before he started due to the skillgap.
>>97513064>>97513103god, same. It would've been so much better if it was some $20 budget jank deck only used for the joke. He's gonna be spending so much fucking time unsleeving/cleaning them out
>>97513228Funny how an illiterate that couldnt find gavin's mld definition and didnt even know from the ashes isnt mld and had to be spoonfed all the way is now talking about reading hahahaSo yeah, cope and seethe about b3 below being for new and bad players, whatever helps you sleep at night kek
>>97513064You don't actually run this
>>97513241Or, just maybe I knew you were shitposting the entire time and demonstrated how you could improve your technique, while also making you say some dumbass shit that immediately stopped anyone else from engaging with you. Nah, couldnt have been that.
>>97513246what
>>97513269>ok fine you're right i cant read and my hot takes are shit just stop shitposting already!!Huhehe
>>97513246Are you fucking retarded?????
>>97512825God I love her
>>97513288Seems you lost the plot entirely, chum. Those arent my hot takes. They're things you made up. Also note how no one is replying to you, other than me. And you've resorted to a single line of greentexting hypotheticals. Keep at it. One day you'll improve.
>>97513317>already backtracking on his dumb takesOne day you'll lear that's for sure kek
>>97512774Is jitte really that good in edh?
>>97513336Unquestionably. Outrageously. So unbelievably good it will single handedly shut down entire archetypes if it resolves and you connect once. Assuming you arent combo drag racing.
>>97513353I guess I can try it out in my Glimmerwasp deck. It has some proliferate stuff in it to get more counters on the jitte but the main thing is that I will always have the wasp as a little flying dork to wield it. I could also try out jitte's retarded cousin from OTJ.
I finally hit dragon tyrant -> the last agni-kai, swung for 46 off it. Now I need to do it with reverberate the agni kai or do it with illusionist's bracer's.
>>97512964>NOOOO I RUN A SHARD THAT DOES AGGRO AND I HAVE TO JUND THEM OUT!?!?Ok then ask the simic player to counterspell it
decks with this vibe?
>>97513064>couldn't be bothered to make a Brenard, Ginger Sculptor deck for the bitBoo that man
>>97513064Kingly shit. Makes my old lego-deck box look like garbage.
>>97512964>this is something you really don't want if your goal is to keep games casualLuckily for you jhoira is considered to be stronger than your average b2 deck and if you really want to keep things casual the decks you show would prove it and the jhoira player would just use a weaker deck instead
With the last of my tax return, should I buy a serra's sanctum for my shitty enchantress deck, or buy a badlands for my shitty rakdos and grixis decks?
>>97513487Serra's Sanctum because it has better art.
>>97513487Neither
>opponent plays maralen turn 2>opp agent t3>ob nixilis, spark double>tables face when he uses 3 different fierce guardianships in one turn
>>97513487you buy both from china for $2 and invest the rest in a leveraged index fund.
how do you know if someone proxys cards?they'll tell you
>>97513628I don't
>>97513628Surely you can't even tell
>>97513644You don't use these
>>97513644Who did that grub?
>>97513628>how do you know if someone proxys cards?>they'll tell youFunny jokeReal talk though this kid showed up last weekend with that Rakdos bloomburrow lizard and his deck was 100% pieces of paper printouts. He didn't have any cardboard. He didn't have sleeves for like half of his pile. It was literally alpha playtesting tier. Then he left halfway through the game. He did in fact tell us his deck was proxies
>>97513669I did.
>>97513678I like it, where can I buy it
>>97513681You don't, but you can have both sides to print off for yourself if you like.https://files.catbox.moe/xnwy75.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/0loarb.png
>>97513702>Ass for one side tits for the otherAlright that's kind of good.
>>97513681You wouldn't buy that
>>97512232>>97513644
Podded into three other control players and had a KINO 2 and a half hour game where rule of law stuck around starting turn 4. Unfortunate anticlimax where someone went in for a comet storm for 50, but it was a good back-and-forth up 'til then. Definitely had a few turns where I choked, but I enjoy the deck having those inflection points.
>>97513747I thought about it once my sharpshooter actually comes in the mail
>>97510052More like a girl pretending to be a man to siphon nerds who have been burned by the traditionally girly girls.
>Well if I had those cards my deck would be that good.Fucking no. You are playing a durdle until turn 5 dies to removal deck. You just ramp for 5 turns and face plant at the first hiccup. With no way to recover. I goldfished my deck 250. I've mastered scryfall syntax. I revised it 47 seperate times. Put whatever cards you want in your deck, it wont save you.
>>97513064It almost looks like actual bread.
>>97513852>Crumbs on the decksPretty sure it is.
>>97513860I pretty sure that's styrofoam. I know what actual bread looks like and that's not bread.
>>97513879Based bread scientist.
>>97513702
>>97513644>why don't any females show up to our game night the post
>>97513895This may come as a shock, but women like sexy/pretty girls too.
>>97513912Do they like big titty anime girls? I haven't noticed in my experience.
>>97513916Yes.It varies for woman to woman, same with men, but to assume any and all women will clutch her pearls at coom proxies is extremely reductive.
>>97513644Does this deck even work well? I keep trying to play my Kreat deck and it never wins
>>97513922I'm still tuning it, but yeah. It can gas fairly well.
>pod has settled into a natural rhythm where each player has three or four decks that are equally balanced, and it really is any man’s game right up until the last secondDamn it feels good to not have to prostrate myself in front of the trannies at the game shop who proxy tutorcombo slop and take five minute turns while they try and look up how their infinite combo worksAlso somehow Lotho has become my highest win rate commander, despite him being objectively worse than my Indoraptor and Lathiel decks that I’ve pimped out
>>97513950>five minute turnsThats not even that bad
>>97513644>Krenka, Tin Streetwalker Heh.
Is there any way to build this outside of lands/creatures that will actually win?
>>97513839Is this one of the "funny deckboxes" posts? Are your cards in the spaghetti?
>>97513958Hmm...Enchantments?
>>97513963Ehhhhh, i wanted to build him as artifacts but it doesn't seem that viable.
>>97513977I mean yeah, it'd work as a "Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain"-esque deck. Like if you wanted her ability but in his colors. But you'd have to go all-in on it because instants/sorceries/lands/etc will just disrupt the engine. Something dumb/funny would be mana rock tribal, with some huge X spell to blast the table with for like 20+ mana, but she'd be way better for that kinda strat anyway since she has red
>>97513977That's funny, I almost typed Artifacts but when I thought about it I came to the same conclusion.
>>97509782Vivi to GC is actually more than I expect from the chucklefucks that said Deflecting Swat and Kinnan aren't GCs.
>offer a deal to a player>"I dont negotiate with terrorists">I kill him, win the game shortly afterI gave him out, but he didn't listen.
>>97514032>they return to turn to the dark side and die with their morals intactPretty based
>>97513977His ability isn't that powerful in general.
>>97514013Vivi to GC wont happen as gavin wanted to decouple from the idea that a card would become a GC just because it happens to be a strong commander and not a strong card too in the 99 (cedh doesnt put kinnan in the 99 for example)Gavin also said he's pro unban to GC than anything else, which is to be expected from the pov of wotc who wants to expand their reprint equity
>>97513879>I know what actual bread looks like and that's not bread.
>>97513624>investing your money in actual financial investments instead of blowing it on horrifically overpriced cardboard that barely managed a 1% yearly return hoping the ponzi scheme collectible market it's all based upon doesn't randomly collapseUH OH WE GOT A POORFAG OVER HERE
>>97514077They need to refine the brackets and fuck off with this arbitrary gamechanger nonsense. Vivi is a Bracket 3+ card. Just say if your deck has it, commander or 99, it's bracket 3. Do this for all the cards people actually play.
>>97514109>X commander is b3+There are a lot of those but that means gavin would have to make the list a lot longer to accomodate cedh commanders and he's on record saying he wants a shorter GC and ban list>arbitraryThat's right the whole is pretty much gavin's vision of what edh should be, i dont agree with every single thing he says but at the end of the day wotc owns edh now so it's better for the sake of compromise to have the ip owners make the rules instead of every joe schmoe schizo
>>97513958I considered defanging a Chulane deck by putting him in the command zone.
>>97514099Oh no it is anti-proxy-troll anon
>>97514123They should either have hard r banlists for each bracket or suck my dick. This anemic "well its a GC and maybe if the grouphug player ramps you into your conbo on T5 then you violated bracket rules and get a game loss" are retarded systems. Either make hard banlists for brackets or dont have a system at all. Really that simple
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-l75cSIQnTM?feature=shareHave some absolutely dogshit hot takes from a retard.
>>97514145He's right up until he says Prophet can be unbanned.
>>97514149FREE HER
>>97514145>>97514149>>97514156>rhystic study, the favorite card of the main man of edh sheldon menery himself, should be banned, who cares if he liked that card>also dont unban crypt dockside and jewlotus that would spit in the face of the retarded RCRetarded take yes>demote panoptic from GCCorrect but gavin wont allow it>unban primetimeCorrect take>unban library of alexandriaRL so it will never be unbanned regardless of actual power level>unban prophetCorrect because let's face it that's the only blue card that will ever get off that list>unban sylvan primordialOnly an idiot wants this still banned>dig at the gold prospector schizoLol niceOverall not as retarded as i thought he would be
Is MTGO worth getting into for digital commander games?
>>97514176...people still play it?
>>97514145I can't make a strong Firelord Azula deck. She gasses out way too quick for me. Then again I don't tutor or play combo, just fair buffs and cantrips, so that's probably why.
>>97514180>blue>black>running out of gasLiterally how??? They're the best card draw colors in the game. My blue/black/x decks always seem to have too much card draw and I'm discarding shit every turn near the end of games
>>97514126There are dozens of us
>>97514180Run any UB draw spells retard
>>97514181>>97514187I don't always just have it.
>>97514189Yes you do.
>>97513895why would you want foids to play magic, the trannies are bad enough
>>97514189I always have draw spellsYes alwaysGrixis could run 99 draw spellsLet me guess you run like 38 lands?You auditioning for game knights?Rachel is that you??At least you didnt get mana screwed.You just had an embarrassing no gas turn and lost.Yikes!
>>97514214If you run 99 draw spells how do you win doe?
>>97514189If you don't always have it you should play more. Blue has ridiculous redundancy at instant speed.
>>97514180You run out of gas precisely because you dont run combo, your azula is essentially no different than mono green tifa
> friend cut village rites from his grist deck
Classical art secret lair when?
>>97513062I'll never forget my first game of commander some fifteen years ago(?)Sit down with a hastily put together pile of "this creature/spell looks neat." One guy pulls out Derevi and the other guy slams a 5k Zur deck.I've been pro-proxy ever since.
how many planeswalkers do you think you need in a deck before you can reasonably call it a superfriends deck? i have a jodah the unifier deck that started as superfriends but is now at a point where i have 15 planeswalkers in the deck (was 16, but i just took out ashiok dream render for vivi). a lot of the other cards are about supporting the planeswalker theme, laezel and pir, bunch of proliferate cards, carth the lion, etc. i just am not sure if i quite have enough and if i should try moving back towards more walkers.
>>97514219sis, your commander? you should know this if you are going to a recorded gameshow
>>97514180Buff spells that barely do anything when Azula isn't on the board suck ass. She's a 4cmc huge target that's only relevant during combat without haste. The spells you want to copy should still do something when your deck is on the back foot.
>>97513879It's real bread. It left crumbs everywhere and we are the dicebox
>>97514580ate*
i need a hipster EDH list, preferably something under 1k lists and NOT universes beyond. any ideas?
I was going to try to put together a mutate deck till I learned that mutate monsters don't actually enter the battefeild, they merge with the target creature. I'm kind of stuck on what non creatures to add to the deck that are thematic with mutate
>>97514580You shouldn't eat styrofoam.There are strange corners inside the deckbox.The front is quite unrealistic and looks painted on.
>>97514602>There are strange corners inside the deckbox.Most bread doesnt come with built in voids for decks and it had to be cut out>The front is quite unrealistic and looks painted on.That's what a farmmhouse loaf looks like
>tqlet the seethe flow through you
>>97514597>and NOT universes beyondlolperhaps even lmaowrong thread buddy, this is a UB appreciation board now
How do you play Grixis? I tried to find some nice commander that wasn't Nekusar, and always get stuck with either artifacts (that seem inferior to Esper style) or some jank like curses, which seems like fun, but I cannot see wincon in any of the Lynde's decks. Oh, and pirates/theft, which I don't want to encourage, as then other people might bring theft decks and I don't want anybody to touch my cards with their greasy fingers and don't expect them to have the courtesty to bring some infinitokens. Anybody running UBR?
>>97514681There are so many different ways to run Grixis I'm not even sure what you're asking for. There's a huge variety of commanders with lots of different synergies and playstyles of control to combo and even to tempo/aggro.
>>97514703All I find around is Nekusar (wheels style - I make you draw cards, you lose life), pirates because of the Ixalan precons, theft, likewise but with the alternative commander, Mishra/Ashnod artifacts/sacrifices, and that's it... So I was looking for some hints what do people play beside that - Azula Fire Lord looks like he leans more into the Izzet spellslinging, I like that and will check what decks people run with him.
>>97507384Die a violent death.
>>97513958>>97513963He's busted strong with enchantments, I have built it
This is going to be one hell of a stupid question but I'm somewhat new to mtg in general and I've seen a few commander deck tech videos where the dude tries to improve precon decks and says something along these lines>take X card out and get Y instead, it does the same for less or >this card costs the same but does moreMy question is not whether they're right or not, which I assume they are. My question is how do people know about cards from an expansion 10 years ago? Is there any resource where they show you cards that work in similar ways or somethin? Because I'm guessing they're not going through 1000s of cards every single time
>>97514872>My question is how do people know about cards from an expansion 10 years ago?1. They were there2. The card is just well known3. They went online and looked it up.>Is there any resource where they show you cards that work in similar waysYehttps://scryfall.com/Enjoy learning syntax>I'm guessing they're not going through 1000s of cardsYou may, in fact, still have to do this on Scryfall
>>97514872>My question is how do people know about cards from an expansion 10 years ago?Good cards stick in your head, especially when you often see new players using strictly inferior versions.>Is there any resource where they show you cards that work in similar ways or somethin?Scryfall lets you search cards by function and/or oracle (rules) text. Despite what many claim, MtG isn't actually a very innovative game so lots of cards do very similar things, so as long as you know one card that does something, you can look up every card that does that thing.>Because I'm guessing they're not going through 1000s of cards every single timeThat's what the search is for.
>>97514876>>97514880Okay gotcha, so it's just a matter of some cards being generally good and well known. I want to build my own deck some time in the future, that's why I was asking. Thanks
>>97514884My advice is to continue watching deck upgrades for a bit, and play draft at your LGS.Draft is a fun way to interact with new sets and you will learn the game a lot faster.There's just things in this game that are kind of constants. There will always be red cards that say draw and discard in every set, the going rate for a black reanimation spell is about 4 mana any less than that and it's probably pretty good (eg Reanimate and Animate Dead), etc etc etc. Once you have a sense for the invisible rules that WotC design's by it will be a lot more obvious to you what is a good rate for an effect and how likely it is there are cards with a specific effect you're looking for
Gonna go headhunting for my group at the LGS today. Wish me luck navigating the tranny plagued wasteland.
So I'm thinking about going to a LGS in my area to participate in locals for the first time. Any tips? They're doing a precon only event and a general Commander event today and I plan on playing in both if at all possible.
>every LGS I go to is sold out of Lorwyn>WotC tried to sabotage the set by releasing it in January>WotC tried to sabotage the set by only running preview season 2 weeks from launch>WotC tried to sabotage the set by not providing any quality assurance on the commander deck prints>WotC tried to sabotage the set by "accidentally" slipping TMNT previews into the pre-release boxes>Lorwyn will still be the best selling set of the yearUBpigges absolutely screaming right now
>>97515022As it turns out, people really like certain classic themed planes way more than the new random multiverse shit. (Final fantasy notwithstanding)
>>97515022>twinkIt's cute elven girl! Also, why is every merch with Dawnhand Eulogist, High Perfect Morcant and Twilight Diviner sold out? Are players such gooners and waifufags?
>>97515045>why is every merch with Dawnhand Eulogist, High Perfect Morcant and Twilight Diviner sold out? Are players such gooners and waifufags?Pretty.
>>97515045If you've ever been to a weekly magic night you know the answer.
>>97515074There are mostly woman players at the flgs, but I can imagine know what you mean, if I reverse the genders of your average fujo, the smell would be similar, just the topic of discussion would be shipping Chandra and Liliana instead of Oko and his shapeshifty orifices that can fit buffkitty's barbed cock.
>>97515045>It's cute elven girl!It is the Lortwynk>>97515095>There are mostly woman players at the flgs,"Woman"
>>97515095>instead of Oko and his shapeshifty orifices that can fit buffkitty's barbed cock.this is why the future is female
Wake me up inside
>>97514884Some people will give me shit for this, but go to EDHREC .Com. Type in a commander and go from there.
>>97512724Remember when Snapcaster was 80 bucks? I member
>>97514730As the resident grixis degenerate, with 8 grixis decks - Red blue and black have the most creative design card spaces. Xathrid demon is my wincon for saruman. I also run a group hug oprah spell copy deck with parnesse with demonstrates and lots of give free spells like weftwalking. I have an aristocrats/threaten deck with all timestop spells in my edea deck that uses fling and impact tremors. Esper and Grixis are also the best draw burn. Then there's just asshole jund like crosis, bolas, kefka. Enchantress curses with Lynde - and also TONS of support for artifact decks. Even then, the variety of 99 means you can just make and do what you want. also - for rules dudes. pic rel: is this an infinite combo?
>>97512695>Drawback (can be counterspelled)>Doesn't put into play>So can Twiddle there's an elephant in the room when you say "Untap Cradle">...you mean blinked as easily as every other etb?>"Address me," said the elephant.>Yo dawg so I heard you like tutoring creatures...
>>97515492yep, nice combo anon
>>97512168this should be bracket 5all brackets should ban u.b.exceptu.b. bracket
>>97515492Can I get a list for that Edea deck? That sounds based. I tried building her as an aggro deck and she's pretty fun, and while I stomp the shit out of the table I have a hard time winning when the 1v1 hits.
>>97515022>UBpigges (sic) absolutely screaming right now>ImplyingMirrorform is my favorite spell in years.t. Buys nearly every mechanically unique secret lair.
>>97507311>tq
Can anyone suggest cards from my devoid deck to cut? Still need to cut 12 more cards. It's meant to be a go wide strategy, so the more token creation the better, but then there's also +1/+1 counter synergy, and draw, and tryong to fit removal in. It's a bit of a mess. Help would be appreciated.https://moxfield.com/decks/AC5SWXF31EeMfcV7bT_aLg
Are there any viable EDH decks consisting purely of UB/Secret Lair cards yet?I wanna give someone an aneurysm on our next online session.
>>97515022>anecdotal evidence is real!
>>97514821NUMBERSNUMBERS
>>97515999Pretty much sold out here too.
>>97515022>Hey, Wotc>Yes Hasbro>I know it behooves you to make money with sets right?>Yes? It behooves you too.>Right. So anyway, now that's said we need you to purposefully try and tank a product even though it will effects our stock, your stock, and all of the stock holders simply because we want turtles to sell better.This is the world your schizo brain lives in.
>>97515999>999your the type to discard stereotypes and say they are not based on 'noticing' + statistics.racism is birthed from exposure.dwell on that
please don't unban dockside please don't unban dockside please don't unban dockside please don't unban dockside please don't unban dockside
>>97516032Not going in hard on a set they have little confidence in is saving them money. Remember that original Lorwyn block was a failure.
why do we give new players combat decks when combat is what involves lots of math and understanding steps and phases meanwhile combo decks are just "put these two cards in play and you win, make that happen"
>>97508758Does your lgs have an oshi push scene? I've been theorycrafting after editing the starter decks but haven't seen any stores hosting it around me
How many suicides will happen when primtime gets unbanned or stays banned?A lot of retards on either side.
>>97516129he's stayed banned every prior announcement and yet i'm still here, waiting for him.
>>97515893>>UBpigges (sic)UBpiggies is 1 word.
>>97516129I don't care. I play with him anyway. The banlist doesn't exist if you ignore it.
>>97516129if they unban stupid shit I'm treating the gc list as an extended ban list from there on out
>>97516228"Dude that's a banned card you can't play that">they actually think the cops are gonna remove me from the store
>>97516227I was referring to the missing i.
>>97516032>we need you to purposefully try and tank a product even though it will effects our stock, your stock, and all of the stock holders simply because we want turtles to sell better.Shareholders struck oil when Final Fantashit hit 200M or whatever it was. After that, in-universe sets are just taking up space, but WotC are afraid to cut them entirely in case moving too quickly scares off their core audience.But if there's a string of failed in-universe sets, then they'd be able to go to their consumers and tell them "aw gee you just didn't buy enough, everyone wants UB now so that's what we're making"You have no idea of how the corporate world works
>>97516233It already is tho.WotC is too pussy to actually ban cards so they made a soft one.
>>97515022if lorwyn will be considered as the best selling set, it will be brushed up thanks to TMNT "leaks" in future datayou will not win with mark and his lies
>someone slaps down this zesty little fellow on turn 1What do you do?
>>97516287Show and Tell, Emrakul
>>97516253Genuinely insane how his role is to liaise with the community and he has been caught in multiple fucking lies
>>97516242We won't see a pivot based on Final Fantasy for at least a year since sets take years to develop, UB contracts likely take even longer to hammer out, and the roadmap is already in place. People hated hat sets from the jump but we kept getting them for over a year and that was completely within WotC's control. This year's retarded shotgun blast of UB is probably a result of LotR's success and the contracts they were able to get "quickly". I kind of hate LotR since it butchered the visuals for political points and sold almost entirely on the Willy Wonka model of the 1/1 Ring as a golden ticket that read "win 2 million dollars and meet Post Malone". Final Fantasy was a better set in every way and succeeded because TCGs have a massive undercity of weebs playing weeb games.
>>97516322>We won't see a pivot based on Final Fantasy for at least a year since sets take years to developDon't be so sure. Lorwyn got knocked from its slot by a last minute Avatar set. If that had been planned 2 years in advanced that should never happen
>>97516322>22no lies detect, good post + insights anon>>97516253fffffuuuuuuuuu....merchant power is strong
>>97516330Avatar is rare scenario, since Nickelodeon must have given multiple IP deal in bundle while WotC originally pursued for only one or two franchises.>avatar>tmnt>spongebobSince Nickelodeon is owned by Viacom, I wouldn't be surprised if Star Trek and Nickelodeon franchises were all obtained at same executive meeting or that specific timeline.
>>97516330No it got bumped because they were told to make Spider-man a full set after Assassin's Creed failed miserably and they lost all confidence in doing another mini-set.
>>97508900>everyone here has some idea who pippa is.I have no idea and Im terminally online
>>97516410Some tranny
>>97516440>>97516440>>97516440
>>97516376>Since Nickelodeon is owned by Viacom, I wouldn't be surprised if Star Trek and Nickelodeon franchises were all obtained at same executive meeting or that specific timeline.Almost certainly. I don't think anyone would have pursued Star Trek with it being such a mess even a few years ago when the deal was being made. Nowadays it's a franchise that's worse than dead.
>>97516244And you're too pussy to admit that you only have bracket 2 decks
>>97516287Any number of 1/2 mana spot removal
