Sleepy edition>Bans (new)https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026>NewsThe 2025 Magic Con and Pro Tour Schedule:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotationhttps://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is EDH?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963>WotC's War Crimeshttps://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)>Previously>>97527204>TQWhat is your favorite instant or sorcery artwork?
>TQVOW Abrade
>TQ
how you feel TMNT anons?
>TQShould've gotten a full art, regardless of being common
>>97535937
I like all the art from the Peach Momoko Secret Lair too.I quite like the secret lair drops. They have unique and engaging artwork. The problem with them is the availability, cost, they’re fucking the secondary market, but when you can get your hands on them they’re very nice. Maybe I’ll buy these cards eventually but it would just be to coomlect I can’t see myself using them for a particular deck or cube.
Here's your data gathering method:>You call random phone numbers to see if they play Magic: The Gathering or buy product>A certain percentage of the numbers you call do not play the game or even know what it is>A certain percentage of these callers will be annoyed you robodialed them>A certain percentage of these callers will answer maliciously or at randomNow the question is: Do you think there's more MtG players in the US population than there are non-MtG players that would improperly answer a survey they were given at random?
>>97536129The lightning bolt was also pretty good. Shame it's almost $700. I'd have to buy a proxy.
>>97536147Sorry to break it to you but, that's a man.
>>97536164Like I give a shit.
>>97536164I expect nothing less from a secret lair.
>The entire format is Badgermole vs "How do I stop Badgermole.">Badgermole ends up with an even windrate in the context of every non-Badgermole deck being entirely designed to stop Badgermole.>Somehow WotC thinks this is a sign that Badgermole is acceptable.Over status?
>>97535937what is the point of this card? are you gonna exile other spells and put dream counters on them to cheat them in?
>>97535988affinity got a new toy
>ATLA is the 3rd best selling set, behind LoTR and FFAnti-UB chuds BTFO please kill me
>>97536214I don't really get it desu. I thought it was pretty mid. FF was one of my favorite sets of all time. I didn't touch and will never touch LoTR with a ten foot pole. Fuck them for turning Aragon into a nigger and all the other race swapping. Absolutely despicable behavior.
>>97536214>ATLA is the 3rd best selling set, behind LoTR and FFMaterialism is the death of quality and culture.Profit-mongering is the murderous axe of materialism.Mark's post, when asked about what he considers to be the metrics of success for MTG,>"Sales."Says everything. They hate their own game.They would burn MTG to the ground and scatter its ashes to the wind, if it meant making one extra dollar.
>>97536214Even if wotc decided to fix their shit and make standard playable again. UB is never going away
>>97535971He's doing the 67 hand thing
>>97536329Fellas - is it <meme> to have hands?
>>97536361You're that woman on the bottom right corner retreating in defeat as the Orzhov priest flexes his knowledge of the modern lingo.
Speaking of UBs, why is X full of faggots angry at WotC + Harry Potter? Did something leak?
>>97536390Hasbro just announced a multimillion-dollar contract to make Harry Potter merchandise.WotC (the actual company account, not Mark making an ass of himself as usual) is frantically promising they're not going to make UB: Harry Potter.Naturally, because this company has lied so many times about UB, nobody believes them.
>>97536403It would be kind of based if they did at this point. I don’t believe a word they say, if anything them denying it makes me think they will.JK Rowling has never even said anything hateful. She just doesn’t bend the knee to the woke mob. And for that she’s been cancelled. It’s bizarre.Like I said last thread I hate modern fantasy and cartoons turned into UB. Sci fi is okay but still weird. FF was kind of okay since it’s fantasy science for the more modern games. 2000s England with wizards is not my idea of a good mtg set.
>>97536427The cancel culture on JKR only started once Cursed Child sucked donkey balls so it became socially acceptable to dunk on her. Unironically if she kept making stories at the same quality level as the books she spent like 20 years brainstorming (very unlikely) she would still be in good graces even if she said to kill all minorities.JKR getting cancelled was really more of a boilover from Pottermore being nonsensical and Cursed Child sucking. Now most people that claim her remarks were transphobic don't even know what she said because it's just grapevine shit.
>>97536444After reading cursed child I found the potterverse significantly less interesting. Shitshow of a book.She could have easily made a whole new series instead. About Harry Potter’s child, maybe add in some big bad even worse than Voldemort that kills Harry for defeating Voldemort. Don’t do an exact retread of it but maybe a mystery about what happened to the original three who died under mysterious circumstances. So much she could have done. But a shitty play that time skips constantly was not the right way to go.Maybe in 20 years when they’re scraping the bottom of the UB barrel we’ll get a cursed child UB.
>>97536444>>97536463Cursed childwas peak of black Hermiona gay dumbledrore era, wokies loved her. Besides>Harry Potter and the Cursed Child is a stage play script written by Jack ThorneJK didn't even write CC, she just oversaw the development
>>97536472She allowed it which is bad enough. She could have written a new series in the same universe.
Will WotC have the restrain to not make everything a flip card?
>>97536427Half of her twitter feed is complaining about trannies. Even if you think she's not hateful, she's still obsessed.
>>97536521There's really nothing wrong with being obsessed about a cause you believe in, even if you disagree with her.
>>97536521Ywnbaw
>>97535937>TQ
>>97535971Damn, I had to look for the card because I had no recollection of it existing. >>97535858Wish it was Game of Thrones because even if they followed the tv show it would be good.I didn't remember the Orzhov knights being a thing before Return to Ravnica. >>97535988Looks like a good set. If it wasn't UB I would buy it.>>97535858Wish it was Game of Thrones because even if they followed the tv show it would be good.
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What do you think the most impressive deck is?For me it's Vintage Bazaar decks.
>>97536129>I quite like the secret lair drops. They have unique and engaging artwork.Well most of them have shit art. But I've come around from hating on Secret Lairs, even though I've never bought one, because some of them are great and they do at least give us options for art.They pulled out us out of the dark ages of 2010s MTG where every card art just looked like the same miserable corporate shit. I pity anyone who started playing MTG in the 2010s and it nostalgic for it.
>>97536787Old Belchers that played 0* lands like Dreadge, but actually did cast stuff
>>97536214Funnily enough ATLA, LoTR, and FF are three of the best-designed sets in the last 10 years.Meanwhile Spiderman had shit design and flopped.But that's probably just coincidence, I don't think I'm willing to give the playerbase that much credit.
>>97536550>There's really nothing wrong with being obsessed about transsexualsthanks for the life advice Epstein, I knew you were still with us
>>97536798ATLA was poorly designed and kind of shit. It was dominated by getting lucky with bomb mythics that blew everything else out of the water. Garbage set.
>>97536825People mean constructed. Avatar had strong cards with unique effects.Spiserman had shit outside of tge reanimator guy that casts
>>97536787OG psychatog with upheaval.
>>97536737This one image singlehandedly deleted shills trying to claim the nuMagic border is "just subjective" from the threads.Truly incredible stuff.
>>97536787>What do you think the most impressive deck is?Ever?Mind's Desire combo. Casting every spell in your library all at once is one hell of a drug.
>>97535988>2 mana draw 4 on a X/4 body, resistant to a single bolt and in theory able to punch as hard as you wantwhat the fuck are they smoking? thought monitor didn't deserve to be powercrept like this
>>97536129My issue with your pic is four cards have very similar art so it could be easy to confuse them, new Dryad Arbor style.
>>97536135>Do you think there's more MtG players in the US population than there are non-MtG players that would improperly answer a survey they were given at random?that would require an additional control study where you ask about a game that doesn't exist and see how many people honestly say they never heard about it vs how many try to get it over with quickly saying "yeah yeah now fuck off"
>>97536205The point is to double up on spells, and to get sorcery speed effects in the combat phase. Simplest use case is drop a lightning bolt, then let the daydreamer smash it, then replay the bolt and now you got more damage for free*
>>97536787Conceptually I would say Oops, even if in practice it gets old playing with it or against it very quickly. But if I had to say something other than Oops, I think it would be Lantern because it flips the rules of the game upside dow.
>>97536737I said it before and I'll say it again , the border and frame they were trying for 7th/judgement where the mana and art credits went vertical was peak, as it retained all the cool and unique features of old borders but had better readability, like that of the modern slop border. So it was better in every way, but they still didn't use it beyond a few test prints. And I hate that.
>finally find a card I've wanted>scalper selling it for 60NZD, almost 4x market value
>>97535988it needs to crash and burn for MTG to survive
Do I post my custom cards here or in /edhg/?
>>97537014Here's fine, unless they're designs for EDH.
>>97536792You have to see it for what irmeant to be, off beat from normal mtg. Secret lairs are at their best when they aren't trying to just be borderless alt art but something new and different.
>>97537014>>97537020only if they're good tho
>>97537027Given we'd be comparing them to current Magic, there's basically zero chance they would come across as bad.
Any cards with really nice big tits on them the scryfall tagger wouldn't tell you about? So no tags included like bikini, cleavage, boob-plate, boob-window, barrel-chested, nude and so on
Thread Question
>>97537123proxies are not TQ
>>97537106How are we supposed to know, we don't have those tags memorized or anything
>>97537106this card is literally just titties
>>97537106Mirroden has a bdsm vibe. The original ponder also has fish boobs. Nu-lorwyn has a distinct lack of sexy fish
>>97537174>put soaring hope on top of it's owner's deck how lewd
>>97537123I'm glad you like my edit, anon
>>97537180Most of these mirrodin cards are easy to find because of the tags tied to them but then there are cards like opal eyed with no tags talking about boob window or anything.The Dark Lewds, only accessed directly and not through any search options
If the majority of the sales are driven by kitchen table casuals who don't know what a format is and EDHfags who have their own separate system, why does WotC have such a wildly conservative ban policy around competitive formats these days? Forcing the entrenched compfags to go chasing a new meta (and thus have to buy more cards) every B&R update should be in their interest, since it can't really hurt their bottom line. And clearly they don't care about burning out the compfags since refusing to make changes until it's too late causes burn out as well.That is unless the speculator market, which cares the most about chase cards being devalued, has a bigger influence on decisions than WotC lets on.
>>97537247>why does WotC have such a wildly conservative ban policy around competitive formats these days? because this:>Forcing the entrenched compfags to go chasing a new meta (and thus have to buy more cards) every B&R update should be in their interestis already happening in standard and pioneer, every other new set these days has at least a handful of must buy cards that highly impact the meta, from the business point of view, banning isn't necessary
>>97537291>is already happeningWhy not more? >isn't necessaryThat sounds dangerously like long term thinking. Think about the short term profits!
>>97537330>Why not more?I mean they are trying to do more, we have 7 sets this year, maybe next year they go for 8, even chasing short term profits can be a process, things don't happen overnight>That sounds dangerously like long term thinking. Think about the short term profits!if they had a magical button that dealt with all of the logistics and immediately released 20+ sets into standard at once, I bet all of my money they would do it
>>97537247The last time ban's happened in EDH. The community lost their minds and started spamming death threats. Wotc probably doesn't want to disturbed the tard nest that is edh. Olivia 100% deserves the hate btw for supporting magic 30th
>>97537180Man, MTG really used to have a radical, UNIQUE aesthetic didn't it?
>>97535937>WotC's War Crimes>https://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)>https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)by the way, shouldn't we update either of these with the most recent lawsuit against Hasbro?
>>97537438>by the way, shouldn't we update either of these with the most recent lawsuit against Hasbro?I've been thinking of doing an update too. Last time was in Atherdrift and there's plenty of material to add since.
>>97537447>Last time was in Atherdrift and there's plenty of material to add sinceCertainly, be my guest, anon.
>>97537459>Certainly, be my guest, anon.Fuck it, I have some time.
Hello my Phyrexian brothers, it is I, Davvol.I'M UPDATING THE WAR CRIMES DOCIT HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED SINCE DFTPLEASE REPLY WITH ALL OF WOTC'S STUPID SHIT FROM DFT ONWARD
>>97537413I was talking about non-EDH formats
WAR CRIMES UPDATEhttps://pastebin.com/U0RvZepsA quick update with some new inclusions. More to come, if more things are remembered and posted.
>>97536737Old border is best border, and every card just looks nicer with it. Only flaw with it is that white-on-white on white cards is hard to read sometimes, but that could be dealt with by tweaking the outline of the font a bit.Now that Premodern has caused massive scalping of every old border version of cards used on it (there's countless cards where the new border version is 2 cents and the old border 10+ dollars), WotC should start counterscalping by reprinting more old border cards.
anyone care to switch a few modern cards into the old format to compare the aesthetic shift?
>>97536737trying to change threads with the "conveniently left white text on white background out from my example" post, eh?
I consider the art direction a war crime. But it happens so often it is essentially the brand at this point
>>97537579WotC's art directors really need to die and go to hell and be tortured forever.
>>97536787Full English Breakfast combo for me was the last time when I dropped my jaw looking at what the deck was doing. You need 200 IQ to pilot that deck correctly.
>>97535988I have absolutely nothing but hatred for this kiddy shit for small retarded babies.
>>97537470Under Final Fantasy Holiday- 24 mechanically unique cards from Scene boxes made in small quantities - Game Edition of Limit Break outclassed normal Limit Break with exclusive art promo, anyone who bought normal Limit Break is ass out.- Chocobo Bundle with tons of exclusive artTbh, FF Holiday was a scummy disaster. They really should have announced it way sooner than they did.
>>97535988
>>97537470>>97537530How about the no standard bans despite the format being absolute dogshitAnd oh yeah mono white STILL sucks
>>97537470The 2026 set lineup
>>97537621>The 2026 set lineupOh! That's a spicy one!
>>97537619Mono white had its time in the sun with Caretakers and Beza, the fuck are you on?
Does anyone else even care that Standard has permanently become a 4 color format since fire design?
>>97537621>More Universes Beyond sets in 2026 than real Magic sets> - Why would they think this is acceptable?It's in there. Should it be more detailed?
>>97537631That deck never even cracks the lowest 1% of the meta every month since it arrived, what the fuck are Jew on?
>>97537640>Why would they think this is acceptable?Because people are buying it.
So anyway show me the pro tour that Caretaker’s Talent and Beza won. Go ahead, I’ll wait.
Even better, show me the pro tour that mono white won, ever.It's never happened, because white has always been a laughingstock.
>>97537646>Because people are buying it.
>>97537646>Because people are buying it.REMINDER to EVERYONE that DISTRIBUTOR ALLOCATION REQUESTS are NOT consumer sales figures.WotC tracks sales by ALLOCATION REQUESTS, NOT BY CONSUMER DEMAND.
>>97537654Hasbro is a publicly traded company.
>>97537637White is least fun colorWhite does not invite new players into the gameWhite effects discourage replayingWhite cards are not exciting to read or play
Memba the time Caretakers talent beat Heartfire Hero and Screaming Nemesis?Oooh I memba!Memba when Beza defeated Cori-Steel Cutter?Oh I memba dat!
>>97537675should I tap the sign again? >>97537438
>>97537684>commander card>commander card>commander cardSuch powerful cards in the game of Magic: the Gathering
>>97537470>>97537530Have you added: making Universes Beyond standard legal with unique cards that can't be reprinted with the same name?>>97537579Keep in mind that the boat is on a river...(But overall those kithkin look better than the giraffe kithkin on the main set)(they look like og kithkins imo)
>>97537684>Anointed Procession is 65 fucking dollarsThis is your brain on EDH.
>>97536825The Sealed was truly mythic bomb dogshit.The draft was pretty good (not on the level of LOTR/FF though, those are Limited all-timers).But mainly the *bending mechanics were incredibly well-designed. Most sets WotC can't even nail a single original mechanic but there they hit a homerun on 4 of them.
>>97537470Gaslighting players that Tarkir: Dragonstorm wasn't liked as much as Final Fantasy and Avatar despite selling more (FIN and TLA just cost 1.5x as much so they grossed higher despite selling less)
>>97537596that's a good call.I feel like I could pilot FEB, thought about building it as my Premodern deck of choice.But I bet LSV thought the same when he uploaded a video of him playing FEB in a league and punting match after match before dropping lol
>>97537744Hard disagree on Earthbending (Cub aside), but the other three were solid.
>>97536825>It was dominated by getting lucky with bomb mythics that blew everything else out of the water. Garbage set.You guys say this about every limited set and you're always wrong lol
>>97537702OG Kithkin was Amrou Kithkin in Legends and she's the only Kithkin ever who isn't a gross mutantLorwyn kithkin are pretenders and ugly as shit
>>97537781>unblockablenot a real white cardNEXT
>>97537781shadowmoor had some nice looking kithkin
>>97537794Larper-kike you need a new hobby
>>97537809Not an argument + you're not a white anon.NEXT
>>97537814You’re a larping kike and not the trve white knight. Hang yourself kike. Free Palestine.
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/standard/full#paperHey let’s check the last year of the meta to see how strong mono white was for..Oh. Oh no. Oh that’s not good data for facetious gaslighting kikes…
>>97537743Best part is that it's been powercrept by Elspeth, but this is still the more expensive of the two.
>>97537835Schizo meltdown + you're still not white + still not an argument.NEXT
>>97537758Source?
>>97537845low IQ, nonwhite social media speak + goldfish is not a white website.sorry, try harder.NEXT
>>97537862>larping like is still larpingYou’re obsessed with me, kike
>>97536803She's not obsessed with trannies, she's obsessed with the social pressure around having to pretend they're real women.
>>97537899>larping like is still larpingnot a real sentence + still not an argument.you'll never be white but if you study grammar instead of having constant social media meltdowns you might be slightly less ESL one day.NEXT
>>97537922>>97537899Can you two homos have your lovers' quarrel somewhere else please?
>>97537506Anon, they really don't care about the "health" of other formats. The top three selling sets all being UB (but somehow not growing the playerbase by a substantial amount) proves it - they are just fine with people consuming the product and then never interacting with it in any way ever again. In fact, that is what they want because they don't have to worry about babysitting bans / formats / running official tournaments.The current pro-tour is beyond performative and is a tiny sliver of what it used to be. PTQs and Grand Prix used to happen CONSTANTLY all over the world.
>>97537698How is that relevant? Mismanagement is not even in the same ballpark that reporting false sales data would be.
>>97537922Keep larping larper-kike
>>97535988everytime i try to forget about this game becoming an unbearable shit you faggots remind me... is like you rejoice at the actual state of magic
>>97538168Why are you here
>>97538168LOOK AT IT, DON'T TRY TO HIDE AWAY IN YOUR OWN NOSTALGIC STUPOR. THIS IS MAGIC THE GATHERING, THIS IS WHAT IT HAS BECOME.
Custom card:Not exactly a super innovative design, but I feel it fits within white's color pie and would be a strong addition to Standard. While the obvious defensive use is giving effectively Hexproof to something or to make a better blocker, it can also be used to blank aggro/prowess decks attempting to target a creature to pump, or force equipment to fall off (admittedly less relevant now with Cori-Steel Cutter and Monstrous Rage banned). It also gives a creature pseudo-unblockable.All of these effects are technically within white's pie by virtue of white having seen every flavor of protection over the years.Closest analog I could find to this card was actually in blue with Veil of Secrecy from BOK. This card is of course notably better, but with FIRE design making the bar for "playable" much more cutthroat than what was possible during a set designed to de-power Standard following the Mirrodin block, I'm unsure if this card would ultimately end up making too much waves.Also food for whiteschizo.
>>97538168>everytime i try to forget about this game becoming an unbearable shit you faggots remind me...Want to see me do it again?
>>97538256The color pie has largely settled (Provided WotC doesn't ignore it like idiots) on White having Indestructible as its key protection option.I largely agree with this. Hexproof/spell-blocking was, before this change, spread thin across the pie. I think, overall, Protection was just too all-encompassing a mechanic and it was a good thing to kill it.The thought about forcing modifications off of creatures definitely feels in white's color pie. It's a tiny mechanic though, and is far too small to include in a design on its own.Cool thoughts. I don't like the card, but more because I think Protection is best in the grave than it being a bad idea.
So I only really play EDH right now, but would be interested in playing modern. Is there a deck I can build that I can be successful with that isn't super expensive?
>>97538302>So I only really play EDH right now, but would be interested in playing modernGo back. No 60 card format is worth playing, they are all total shit-swamp abandonware.
>>97538302>Is there a deck I can build that I can be successful with that isn't super expensive?really depends on how you're defining expensive, the best budget modern decks right now are ruby storm and eldrazi tron, both can be built for roughly $500if you just want a deck to play and you don't care how linear it is, then you can play hollow one or dredge, both can be built at around $100if you're trying to emulate the EDH experience with a good stuff deck (basically picking some colors and playing the best removal + threats in those colors) that will definitely cost you at least $800
>>97537868Found it.
>>97538293I don't disagree with you, actually. I think protection as a whole has a few issues, not the least of which being how its effects are four different things that you basically have to just memorize and they're not exactly intuitive. However with that being said it's not an abandoned keyword either (was last printed on Ureni, the Song Unending), so I don't think it's totally implausible. Compare shroud which, while easier to remember, has yet to reappear in Standard since 2011 (although it has reappeared in Modern through Sylvan Safekeeper and Sterling Grove being put into it via MH).Here's a more daring design. Balancing Act/Evenly Matched. Would likely not actually be played but would cause Commander players to whine.
>>97538374>I don't disagree with you, actually. I think protection as a whole has a few issues, not the least of which being how its effects are four different things that you basically have to just memorize and they're not exactly intuitive. However with that being said it's not an abandoned keyword either (was last printed on Ureni, the Song Unending), so I don't think it's totally implausible. Compare shroud which, while easier to remember, has yet to reappear in Standard since 2011 (although it has reappeared in Modern through Sylvan Safekeeper and Sterling Grove being put into it via MH).Honestly? I think Protection should be fully killed, and Shroud should return to delete the mistake of Hexproof. An effect being symmetrical is one of the best forms of downsides.>Here's a more daring design.Whiteschizo, we eatin'. Probably completely unacceptable because you could just sit on one Plains and lock the entire game down with it.I really haven't touched custom cards in a while, but I'm always up for design discussions.
>>97538407>Probably completely unacceptable because you could just sit on one Plains and lock the entire game down with it.Theoretically maybe, but ending the turn does a few things that make that harder:>It forces the spell to exile itself on resolution, making it harder to keep in rotation since you're pretty much stuck to getting 4 resolutions max each game>It prevents you from building a board after resolving itSo in the case of your opponent going "Plains-go" you basically have to do what you do against any control deck and force them to burn the removal at some point. It's more of a kneejerk design desu to Stormchaser's Talent being a 1-drop that makes another body on EtB with both needing to be dealt with quickly, which is some of the most baffling design ever.As for protection, I think it's one of those things the game is better off with mostly burying, but with it still around, the idea of forcing pro-all onto something does open a lot of interesting interactions.Here's the most useless planeswalker of all-time. Set-based lore is that he comes back to life with actually no explanation so the effect represents the flavor in a top-down design. (Tibalt being the biggest jobber ever that stays around for no reason).
>>97538443that’s not a bad card, surely better than the og
>>97538443Am I retarded for thinking this is a very good card?
>>97538713Custom cards are rarely bad.
>>97538713It sticks very well, obviously, but the actual loyalty ability is a very large nothingburger. Being a -1 (cards in hand) looting effect means you'll run out of cards over time when relying on it, and it offers less selection than similar rummage/looting effects even in red. The target was make an obviously very bad ability that's basically only held up by the fact you can't really get rid of it. It's true that it's not as bad as OG Tibalt but printing a +1 as bad as OG Tibalt's in the current FIRE era I feel would be too insulting even for a joke mythic.
>>97538443>mark nosewaterI see that
It's Rosewater, ok?
>>97536787The spyLanternManaless dredge, BazaarSecond breakfastBelcherHonorable mentionsMUD StaxLandsPox>You have to know the rules to break themOops is the purest expression of combo. It's a deck that exists by coincidence drawing upon a wealth of very specific, unique cards from throughout the games history to enact a proactive game plan that forces your opponent to play on your terms.
>>97538713>>97538825It’s a red herring meant to sponge aggro
>>97538443Why is he holding a dildo?
>>97538443Modern Dreadge plays it
>>97538825Do you think this is a weak card?
>>97535994I bought a playset of that Opt and haven't used them. I'm sad it's not good enough to use. I love that art.
>>97539475Bazaar doesn't cost 2 mana and has greater selection. I unironically think you might not even run it in dredge.
>>97539501Bazaar costs 1 mana for every turn you take.
>>97539613>Bazaar costs 1 mana for every turn you take.oh no, what ever will I do without 1 mana in my manaless deck????
>>97539617Why is manaless dredge the only option?
>>97539188>tfw someone is watching you play with yourself.>>97536787Combo and dredge are boring decks to play against. Modern Jund is cool how it changes through the metas. R.I.P. Modern
I wish I were a MTGO player instead of Arena...I've cashed out $2000 from a few Arena tournaments over the years but I would have accumulated more than that from MTGO events over the same amount of time and effort.Now sunk cost is still keeping me from buying into MTGO (I don't even buy physical cards; buying digital ones is a hard pill).Any of you guys cash out on MTGO? What's it like?
>>97539923>I've cashed out $2000 from a few Arena tournaments over the yearsHey everyone! Get a load of this!
>>97538256This could be printed right now into Standard even at common, and it wouldn’t change a thing for the meta even after a year. Like I’ve said before, nothing new could be printed in white right now that could equal the power of the last 8 years of nonwhite fire design. You’d have to murder the entire design team starting with Gavin to have any real lasting change.
Would you play it?
>>97539976yes, turbo out the wazoo
>>97539923>Any of you guys cash out on MTGO?me but I was way less of a grinder and way more of a speculator, I used to buy a fuckton of rares and mythics for cheap to play with because Standard was dead as fuck on MTGO and other formats rarely needed new Standard cards eventually one or two of the rares I bought would spike up in price when someone figured out they were actually good and I would sell them for profit, I would then reinvest that profit into buying more cheap rares to build decks across formatsthese days I've sold most of my high value cards, I only kept the ones I really wanted to play with
>>97539976Yeah? Since the lose clause is a separate line of text I can just crack it on the turn I cast it and won't lose
>>97539923You failed us anon.
>>97537106
>>97540058Fuck, sorry, chatbot broke formatting. It was supposed to be a single line (of course if your Storm deck needs just three more mana or you set a Time Vault + Voltaic Key combo your opponent won't begin a turn.)
>>97540273Um, sweetheart, you just killed yourself. Blackest Lotus has a mana ability that doesn't pass through the stack and if you end your turn then your opponent's turn begins and you lose.
>>97540247It costs 0, so If I win off free 3 mana I don't care
>>97538443>the idea of forcing pro-all onto something does open a lot of interesting interactions.I agree, but I think that could be done in a cleaner way than Protection.Anyways, we doing /ccg/ here now?
>>97540311ESL, nogames card designer
>>97540316>nogamesIMAGINE actually playing MTG ahahahahahahahhaha.
>Average Green player
>>97540519is this achievable natty?
>>97540533no, he's ramping with tren
>>97536427>>97536444JK Rowling is a politics obsessed retard that you only like because she triggers other politics obsessed retards.
>>97537106Frostwielder has been visited by the norwood reaper
>>97540533Yeah but you need the right build and be around 5'7.
>>97537106Thassa was the first mythic I ever pulled. I never played it but I liked having it in my binder. I let a friend borrow it for his Mono Blue Devotion deck for a few tournaments and when I asked if I could have it back he had traded it to fund a different deck. Thanks for reading my blog
>>97540519I look like this.
>>97540519Green skips leg day, that’s why they don’t get haste
>>97540564Harry Potter is for faggots, which makes it hilarious that faggots hate the creator
>>97540519>of the Open Fist>is clearly clenched
What cards do you want to see in the new mystical archives? For me, it's pyroblast and hydroblast
Will TMNT have a dumpster limited environment like spiderman?I need hopium that it will fail
>>97540578>5'7Iwamori is a 5/5 though
>>97541141Vindicate or Gerard's VerdictProphetic Bolt or Fire//IceAbrupt decay or Assassin's trophyVoidslime or some other UG spell idcRazia's Purification or boros charmThat or a hell of a bunch of charms.
>>97541141I liked how they kinda teased a card that would come out in a future non-standard legal set. It would be cool if we got more of those, granted, as long as they weren't made for another Modern Horizons set.
>>97540564Harry Potter was an okay book series. It obviously has a large amount of issues but its cultural influence was undeniable. I don't really "like" JKR but for the reasons I outlined I believe that her being "cancelled" was more a product of fan discontent with bad supplemental material boiling over.
>>97540564And that's a perfectly valid reason to like her tbqh
>>97541408he's just like me fr fr
>>97541333So far it’s looking like that’s the big question. Will it be another spiderman? I think the answer is that it won’t be as bad but it won’t be one of their best selling sets. Just a middling set with awful artwork that makes standard even more of a soulless funko pop shit show than it already is.
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>LGS modern league is down to 12 players from 30+we genuinely get more people showing up for premodern and legacy than they do standard and modern
>>97542671but Nebraska is still flourishing
>>97540311>I agree, but I think that could be done in a cleaner way than Protection.Can it really though? Protection does 4 things in one keyword and they're all interesting in their own way, so it would be hard to concisely roll all those into a non-keyworded effect.>Anyways, we doing /ccg/ here now?Either a commander card or a card from 2008. Either way this is a rather weak card since buildaround kinda sucks, but the effect is interesting.
>>97542689>Can it really though? Protection does 4 things in one keyword and they're all interesting in their own way, so it would be hard to concisely roll all those into a non-keyworded effect.It can. New keyword that only does on (or maybe two) parts of Protection.Say, Shroud + attachment clause. Or maybe just a keyword for all modifications genericalliy, so it removes counters too. I think it might end up as a Scry-tier mechanic, where it's not good enough to be on its own cards, though.>but the effect is interesting.It's slowly becoming a sub-theme of the set. Might even end up as the UB mechanic.
>>97537794She is blockable?
>>97539188god i hate watching magiceveryones ugly, everyone has hand fuckery ADHD OCD.magic only seems to attract losers, fuck it sucks.
>>97542779Its the shitty voices that does me in
>>97540694Reach in black because basketball
>>97542850>>97540694Or would F.I.R.E. design give white "Humans" reach
>>97542853Already happened. There was another reach creature in Portal 2 but apparently they hate guns now.
>>97542779>ttrpgsRequire creativity, basic social skills, the ability to work as a team. On a good day lmao. But you still get social rejects. But at least for a decent game being a normal social person helps.>WargamesUnless you’re one of the faggots playing with grey crap you have to paint. This requires even with slapchop a degree of patience and discipline. But again still social rejects.>MtG and other card gamesNo prep except making (or now just netdecking) decks, no social skills, no hygiene, no painting or discipline, just buy some cardboard crack and have at it. I’d say commander is better because it requires negotiation but the vocaroo suns up why it’s absolute trash. The worst social rejects flock to mtg as well because it’s old and very tactical card game. For example pokemon has 90% collectors and nobody knows the rules while 90% of mtg card owners actually play the game.
>>97542779>everyone has hand fuckery ADHD OCDI had someone tell me once to pick up my hand because I put it down to watch them Eggs off. And they hand fuckery'd every time they advanced the board state. It was an outlier of social ineptitude to be sure but man yeah you played the bauble thank you, you don't have to try and mindfuck me by shuffling your hand again.I know it comes from Kibler but more importantly, it is reinforced by shuffling your chips in poker. And if you were to tell someone to stop hand fucking their cards, they won't, because they think they've successfully mindfucked you the same way poker players tilt people with their chips. And if you were to say that they are advertising their mental illness by doing that shit, you'd get ejected straight out of society.I'm glad I don't play Magic in public anymore. So I don't have to listen to people talk. Or watch them walk into the store with a fucking suit to play FNM. I remember the face of the lawyer when he first saw some guy walk in with a fucking suit.
>>97543222>walk into the store with a fucking suit to play FNMI have never seen this but don’t see an issue with someone trying to look presentable. Usually the issue is the opposite. A bunch of smelly fat or rake thin nerds in tshirts, jeans, and sneakers making stupid fucking jokes. I miss those days. My brother knew someone who lives near my LGS and apparently the nerds annoyed everyone nearby by laughing and making noise all night long. Based nerds not giving a fuck about people trying to sleep
>>97542603How could this comic nail so bard the situation we are in currently? Is crazy
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>>97543269I should be more detailed. They're wearing a suit, and the fedora, and they are the shittiest people/players. On the lapel, they are wearing all their pins, like a North Korean general: Magic pins, Pokemon pins, like your whole nerd resume in pins. Sometimes they have a cane, or one of those really long scarves like from a Godfather movie. And there's plushies hanging from their belt, My Little Pony, Pokemon, and obviously all the furry characters. And there are TWO of these people.I agree smell and total lack of grooming is worse. I live in a civilized place and smell and grooming has never been a problem. I don't get this suit shit. It makes sense to me when the white supremacists dress in suits - they are trying to show they are better. But what I saw at Magic doesn't make you look better. It becomes immediately apparent the moment these people say something that something is wrong with them and on top of that they suck at Magic.
>>97542603>star wars>we have not-elsa but not disney>travis scott >whopper how many years before the prophecy is fulfilled?
>>97543321knowing how cynical WOTC is, it wouldn't surprise me if they did a secret lair just to fulfill the comic
>>97543321>edge of spacesgit in 2025>star trek in 2026Kylo will be here in 2027
>>97543316>Fedora>Pins IN A SUIT>Plushies on beltJesus christ. I would prefer the sneakers and jeans. They are almost certainly both deeply autistic.
>>97543321New York block will surely give us a Hamburguer Token
>>97537470The TMNT cards in Lorwyn prereleases fiasco. There will be NO escaping UB!
>>975433282027 will be for the OG trilogy to commemorate the 50 years from the original release
UPDATED WAR CRIMES PASTEBINhttp://pastebin.com/qLBzk6Y4NEXT OP PLEASE UPDATE DAVVOL WORKS VERY HARD ON KEEPING WOTC ACCOUNTABLE
>>97543352what's wrong with borger token
>>97543352>a Hamburguer TokenSeparate from a regular food token, of course.
>MTG compromised the integrity of their own UW setting to open up their bussy to big sci-fi franchise cock Star TrekStar Wars Duneit's inevitable
>>97543466You are being too generous:Spongebob SquarepantsMy little PonyAdventure TimesMarioThese are the franchises that you can expect to buttfuck your game.
How the fuck would you even design a custom card these days?>Removal has to be shit on purpose because that's a tall ask>1-drops can have beneficial keywords and 2 beneficial triggers while still having normal stats>Anything that's 3/4 mana can have three full abilities of text>Anything 5+ mana is fully unplayable unless it discounts itself
>>97543547>How the fuck would you even design a custom card these days?Curate your own format with proper balance.
How do I move on from this game?
>>97542779>>97543222I want to beat to death every kike I see doing this hand shuffle shit or the retarded slow drop snap of cards to drag the game out for no reason. Just play the goddamn cards you shekel sucking kikes. They are such mindless copy pasta kikes following a behavioral script.
>>97536787Lands in legacy, how it was made to counter Delver by just not having spells worth counterspelling or that recur themselves, and somehow managing to outcontrol the formats' biggest control pile. If that's not impressive it at the very least is very cool.
>>97543580Accept the game is what it is right now, the fact that will never improve and find a new game to enjoy.
>>97543505they already had mlp
>>97543547Designing by WotC's rules will make you insane because they're arbitrary and retarded. Use your own sensibilities.
>>97543580I'm starting day 3 of no arena. Had to start smoking weed to get through. Put together a battle box or cube of decks you like and treat it as any other bored game. Magic being cardboard crack is legit and you should treat it as an addiction.
>>97543505I'll accept that if WOTC makes some retarded Toonworld UW set to prep itself.
>>97543580make your own
>sits in front of you for a gamebros...
>>97543935It could have been so much worse.
>>97543935Pronoums?
>>97543935The face of a airbending combo player
>>97543580dude, video games have existed for decades at this pointsand if you are a giga-autist who constantly needs his mind occupied, learn programming
>>97544056Crim/crem/crum
>>97543466star trek is already comingstar wars is Disney, so never everdune will get the lotr treatment (blackwashing)
>Best Standard Deck Ever tournament>Everyone screaming that Academy would beat FIREslop>I tried to tell people that the deck's inconsistency is not good, they all scream.>Oh hey, it's being featured in a match!>BARELY beats 2012 Standard Delver.lmao yeah it's sooooo broken bros
huh?
>>97537684white is the best colour to support gates, you better take that back
>>97544126>star wars is Disney, so never everDisney will whore Star Wars to anyone to recoup the hole it put them in
>>97543935>NguyenFor some reason I always assumed he was some variety of Chinese, but that actually makes a lot more sense.
>>97544199>sometimes you don't win on turn 1 outright truly balanced
>>97544380>sometimes99.8% of the time, statistically. The deck almost never wins before turn 3 and crumples to one (1) counterspell.
>>97544126>star wars is Disney, so never everSo is Marvel and we have 10 sets of that coming
>>97544373>the hole it put them inThe hole THEY put IT in, anon.Star Wars did nothing to Disney. All the damage the brand has done, was Disney's doing.
>>97544199Yeh no, Delver had 0 plays in that game. Academy's only enemy was itself
>>97544398i mean that goes without sayin at this point
>>97544407>Academy's only enemy was itselfYes, and?A deck that bricks 40% of the time is only good in the context of a meta where it is literally the only functional deck. (Urza's Block)
>>97535988It's clear there's way more effort put in this than Spider-Man. Now does this mean this has effort put into it or was Spider-Man just that bad??
>>97535988it's mission critical that TMNT fails we must do anything in our power to try and turn this ship around, or at the very least, avoid the worst of it
>>97544387I didn't see the decklist, but unironically, what the fuck does the deck do if someone just counterspells mind over matter?
>>97544417Spider-Man had a handful of cards that show what the set could have been, but they made a few choices that all seemed to make it worse (focusing so much on Spider-Verse stuff so you had a lot of same-y looking Spider-People, focusing so much on mundane-ass New York, and having to expand the set size so the designs for a lot of the cards were hastily made to work in limited). I THINK Super Heroes will be better. I dunno if it'll be great, but it'll likely be at least good.
>>97544437I will say that Spider-Man put the bar so damn low that we can only be happy with anything that isn't that. I don't think that's on purpose but it does help. I just want cards that feel unique and flavorful. I don't even hate UB inherently. I hate UB when it's clearly lazy.
>>97537438that can't be a real photohis face is like four sizes too small for his headthis looks like a caricature of a dumb rich person
>>97544435>what the fuck does the deck do if someone just counterspells mind over matter?Pray that it draws another one.
I think I'll sell to my LGS all expensive staples and gamechangers. no need for crutches if I'm just playing with friends
>>97544458OH GOD IM GONNA CUM
>>97544592i to love signed cards!
>>97539976>>97540247This isn't even that much worse that a regular Black Lotus in the decks that use it in the optimal way. Consider that Lion's Eye Diamond is a completely broken card. What you've made is an infinitely better Lion's Eye Diamond. "Lose the game at end of turn" is a near meaningless drawback because when the lotuses start cracking your opponent will most likely die that turn.
>>97539976"I'm to cast Balustrade Spy." will become the most common phrase in Legacy. WotC will decide the problem cards were Dark Ritual and Force of Will.
>>97544592Didn't know the government redacted magic cards too.
>>97544415>A deck that bricks 40% of the timeHas a 60% win rate agaisnt the field
>>97545619Every format's balanced until enough people play it. It was funny for Premodern players to think otherwise.
>>97545836it's a brewer's paradise!
>>97545859Honestly for how garbage it is, EDH is a perfect example of how no matter how unique a format looks on the outside, it goes to shit once people learn it unless you're willing to actively update the format to keep things fresh.>Here's a format where you can build around unique cards that do wacky things!>Anyway the best deck just plays 2 generic draw engines that start in their hand and are supported by 4c value piles
>>97545619How has Premodern been gaped by online grinders?
>>97545885EDH is just fundamentally flawed. Edh players are gay as fuck because they have to be in order to make the rules somewhat work with magic.
playpremodern
>>97546267
>>97546267Fuck off shill, still waiting for you to post your hand. I won’t buy your overpriced cards or proxies. Fuck off
>>97546267it's better to keep the comunity sealed and trustful, no need to shill it to sweaters
>>97546524The “community” is now mainstream. The shilling/ritual posting on here finally makes sense. Go away
>Premodern players keep trying to shill their EDH-tier "format" at every opportunity>They get featured on MTGO and even get a Prof video>No NO NO STOP RUINING OUR PRISTINE FORMAT BY SHOWING HOW EASY IT IS TO FARM!
>>97543143It was a black joke.
>>97535937dont understand how you can avoid killing yourself when you play your cool knight wizard magic cards then some faggot pulls out his spongebob deck and beats the shit out of you because they had to sell the expansion somehow
>>97546782The trick is to not play with faggots who would use a spongebob deck.
>>97546811This is /mtg/ not /edhg/ you don't have a choice.
>>97546941I've found edh is worse for faggotry.
well one thing is for sure now that we've brewed up this deckauthority of the consuls does dick all against it>y-you can't just make h-hasty otters and attack for 50, I made them enter tapped!!
>your best tribal payoff activator for the next three years sir
>>97543580>How do I move on from this game?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhSW9vDTRyY
>>97543580We all play Sorcery and don't let women play.
when the hype for this game died?
>>97547429>We all play Sorcery and don't let women play.> implying women play mtg
>>97547461Time to go back to premodern.
>>97543935what kind asian name is nguyen?
>>97547498vietcong
>>97548021>X spell"There's a hole in your plan."
>>97548158>>97548021I'm sorry, I didn't read the thread question. I thought it was what spell you'd use with that creature.
>TQDaze from amonkhet. It’s much better without the ugly invocations card frame.
>>97548306These frames were a travesty.
ATTENTION GRABBING IMAGEREMINDER TO UPDATE THE OP>>97543433
>>97548310shut the fuck up, poorfag
>>97548504>shut the fuck up, poorfagSome people pay skilled gigolos for premium dick slaps to the face.Just because something is expensive, does not mean it is good.
>>97548306I have that on a playmat and it looks gorgeous.
>>97548306I still use these even though the border is so scuffed - the art on both daze and spell pierce is just so nice.
>>97548021Fucking damnit I miss Seb McKinnon's art on magic cards... Wizards are fucking lunatics cutting him off.>>97548310I like it. Can barely read the cards, but I like it. I love the Kaladesh Invention frames though, but I really like the art direction of Kaladesh
>>97548701>Just because something is expensive, does not mean it is good.wrong, stop with this cope.
There was an amazing "little dark age" mtg video on youtube but either youtube is hiding it from me, or it has been holocausted, a shame since it was very funny and very well done and it captured images now lost to time and forgotten.
ok but why though
Modern 2011 - 2018 RIP in PeaceCommon Modern 2016 - Decks You Should Prepare to Face>Jund>Bant Eldrazi>Infect>Affinity>Dredge>Burn>Gx TronUncommon Modern - Decks You Should Know About>Junk>Merfolk>Jeskai Nahiri>Suicide Zoo (DeathsShadow.dek)>Suicide Bloo (KilnFiend.dek)>GR Breach Titan>GR Scapeshift>Eldrazi & Taxes>Grixis Delver>Grixis Control>Ad Nauseam>Abzan CompanyRare Modern - Decks You May See On Occasion>Blue Moon>Lantern Control>Jeskai Control>Death & Taxes>Jeskai Midrange>RUG Scapeshift/BtL Scapeshift>RW Prison (Sun&Moon)>RG Ponza <- That's Me>Skred (With or without Skred, it's a Blood Moon prison deck)>8-Rack (Also Bushwhacker Zoo)>Bant Spirits>Elves>WB Tokens>Mardu Nahiri>Esper Control>RUG Delver>Soul Sisters>Bogles (GW Enchantments/Hexproof)>Grishoalbrand>Living End>Knightfall>Goblins/8-Whack>Kiki Chord>Pryomancer's Ascension>Faeries>Duskmantle Mindcrank Mill / other UB MillMythic Modern - Decks You'll See Once a Year>Esper Teachings>Grixis Cruel Control>Timewalks>Ux Tron>Martyr-Proc>Amulet Titan>Allies>5C Humans>Mono G Stompy>Bx Infect>Green's Sun's Zenith>Jeskai Ascendancy>Angel Moon>Ritual Gifts>Someone playing last year's standard deck
>>97549690>Common Modern 2016>Green's Sun's Zenithwait what
>>97549726Turn 1 Green sun's Zenith into dryad arbor seems pretty good
>>97543935That person looks unwell
now that the dust has settled, how do /mtg/sisters feel about split cards?
>>97549900They're pretty good. They need to make a path to exile // wrath of god split card.
>>97549900good but wotc destroyed brain in a jar "combo" with the new cmc rule.
>>97549690>KilnFiend.dekHoly shit I forgot how common that card used to be with budget modern decks. Now you only ever see it in pauper. It amazes me every day how far we've fallen.
>>97549900Great idea, horrible execution. I prefer aftermath way more.
>>97549690Cruel control my beloved
>>97549944good
>>97550179Kiln Fiend honestly feels quaint compared to the kind of bullshit legal in standard todayI mean holy shit imagine Kiln Fiend except instead of +3/+0 and only working with instant/sorceries, it was +2/+0 and it worked with all non-creature spells. Also it has flying. Also it has haste. Also it can be cast for 0 mana after exiling it the previous turn for 2.And slickshot showoff isn't even the most absurd shit in this meta
why is this general so dead lately?
magic is kill
>>97551597Waiting for the Trek set
>>97551597I think I scared away the alphabet mafia. Good riddance.
>>97551597dead game, dead general/edhg/ is thriving
>>97551597Because the game is dead.
New thread>>97551842>>97551842>>97551842
>>97551597our load got blown out early with all of the rares from TMNT leaking, I don't know exactly if we would be in spoiler season at this exact moment, but we would definitely be shitting on the new cards if they weren't already revealedalso the B&R this week being literally nothing did not help one bit, even a single unban or ban in 60-card formats would've allowed for some discussion
