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Ramp edition

>Bans (new)
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026

>News
The 2025 Magic Con and Pro Tour Schedule:
https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule

>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotation
https://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation

>Spoilers
http://www.magicspoiler.com/
https://mythicspoiler.com/

CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES
>Current meta, complete with deck lists
https://www.mtgtop8.com/
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/
>Build and share casual decks
https://deckstats.net/
https://tappedout.net/

CUBE RESOURCES
>Build and share Cubes
https://cubecobra.com/landing

CARD RESOURCES
>Search engines
https://scryfall.com/
https://mtg.wtf/

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://www.makeplayingcards.com/
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Play online for free
https://untap.in/
https://dr4ft.info/

>What is EDH?
https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1

>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.
https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963

>WotC's War Crimes
https://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)
https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)

>Previously
>>97535937

>TQ
What is your favorite ramp card?
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>tq
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Did ECL perform well enough to keep UW alive?
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>>97551869
UW is underpowered and UB overpowered by design.
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>>97551869
It was the fastest selling set.
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> TQ
This and tetramorphic expanse where the best color fixing when I started playing.
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>Izzet lessons, dimir midrange and Superior Spider-Man now dominate the meta
>If anything from them gets banned, either little will change or Badgermole Cub will come back for the throne
Things are starting to look a lot like the way they did back when standard was "flourishing".

>>97551842
>TQ
I'm so glad this exists. Even if insects don't do much of anything in standard, I can always brew with this and/or Gene Pollinator in older formats.
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>>97551842
>What is your favorite ramp card?
Goes in every deck I can legally put it in

>>97551869
Apparently yes, WOTC admitted it was a success. This must be frustrating for them.
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Pigs eat slop.
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>TQ
Steve
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Thread Question
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>>97551981
And we are all Pigs for playing this game.
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play

premodern
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>>97552334
Fuck off shill

Post hands, pajeet
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>>97552431
ub coded post
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>>97552438
Shill coded post, I will not buy your overpriced cards and/or proxies. Die.
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>Didn't update the OP with the new War Crimes doc
One job.
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>>97552449
It just doesn't work.
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>>97551842
>What is your favorite ramp card?
Turn 1 Boomerang on the draw will never not be the best feeling in MTG.
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>>97552002
Thats the noob version
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this game is slowly dying... and by this game i mean magic, edh is rising as a phoenix.
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Until real Commander is on Arena it is not a serious format
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>>97552570
It's the only format. There's a reason everyone says "Commander" and "60-card formats".
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I only just found out the ECL survey went out last week when I was doing jury duty. Really wanted to tell them my favorite parts of the set, even if they probably wouldn't have given a shit.

I also just found out about 17lands recently, and apparently all my favorite commons and uncommons from the set are C or lower, but I guess that makes sense when most of them have little to no synergy with the tribes.
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>>97552576
Did you get to put a nigger in prison?
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>>97552626
I waited around for three days just to be told they didn't need any more jurors.
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blog
boy i wish i bought a single collector boosters pack first to gauge instead of a whole box. why the fuck are these so expensive when over half the cards are common/lands/tokens and the other majority is still uncommons? i am the dumbest gorilla monkey retard and i didn't get anything i wanted
/blog
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv0tqTk_FO8
this video made me want to pick up modern hammer again, it's been so long
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>>97552777
That's their business model, anon.
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>>97552777
Checked
You're supposed to buy a box. Check the packs for hits. Reseal the harvested packs. Wait a decade. Sell sealed product at inflated Price.
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>>97552777
lmao you could've watched literally any youtube unboxing and learned that lesson.
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>>97552783
They should just push back pioneer all the way to M10 and ban the enemy fetches. It's insane to me that they didn't even include Innistrad block.
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If MTGO wasn't skull fuckingly ugly I would download it just for all the good it has over Arena. Yet, Arena can be played on my phone on the toilet, so it is a clear victor.
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>>97552918
Just realize this post probably didn't make much sense. My point is there's no reason why cards like Puresteel Paladin shouldn't be legal in pioneer.
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Whats the strongest, most braindead deck I can take to modern FNM? Just need something that consistently plows through a meta of Jeskai Blink and Goryo's reanimator because thats the only format that fires off consistently in a nearby LGS
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>Tq
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>>97551842
>>TQ
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>>97551842
>tq
I just think it's neat!
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>>97552449
>being such an assblasted faggot you legitimately think people are shilling a format to sell $0.15 proxies
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what card do you think best embodies each of the 5 colors. not the strongest, but the card that explains the philosophy of the color

for me its
white - swords to plowshares
black - necropotence
red - lightning bolt
blue - counterspell
green - llanowar elves
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>>97553745
noone asked
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>>97553745

counterspell still being playable after all these years is so crazy just like lightning bolt and swords.
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>>97552777
>oy i wish i bought a single collector boosters pack first to gauge instead of a whole box.
IMAGINE be so suctioned onto WotC's Teat that your first thought after they scam you is "I wish I only got scammed a little!" instead of "I'm never doing that again."

The absolute fucking state of consumers.
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Reminder that the line between unregulated gambling and randomized game products is whether or not people sit down to play the game with the randomized packs.

Collector Boosters are LITERALLY illegal, they are LITERALLY against the law and LITERALLY make WotC an unlicensed gambling house.
People should report them.
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Magic the Gathering is COOKED.
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>>97553943
>Magic the Gathering is COOKED.
Sauteed. Deep fried. Broiled. Baked. Torched. Sous vied (with a hole in the bag). Grilled. Blanched. Flambed. Pickled. Roasted. The list goes on.
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Any of you fags playing modern? What are some fun decks? No combo fuckery pls.
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>>97553745
White- It prevents your opponent from attacking as long as your soldiers are untapped.
Blue- The more knowledge you gain the more powerful a creature becomes.
Black- You draw when either players creature dies.
Red- When you attack you get more freedom.
Green- Your lands automatically untapped once played.
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>>97554103
>Blue
>fucking Proft's
Ah yes, blue. Famous for its hyper aggressive aggro, dominant early board presence and efficient creature buffs.

You are retarded.
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>>97554103
>yes, i started playing 2years ago and bring my redditor unbearable opinions with me, how could you tell?
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SO HECKIN TRUE XISTERS! THIS SO MUCH THIS.
I FWARKING LOVE TNT, RICK&MORTY, NARUTO AND AVATAR.
Posted for no particular reason ihi.

#empathy
#resist
#cuteandvalid
#necrosisacceptance
#ageisjustanumber
#nohumanisillegal
#livelovelaugh
#daddyspunk
#pozzload
#tolkienwasanincel
#videogamesaresexist
#killallmen
#whitepeopleareterrorists
#metoo
#cuck
#proudracetraitor
#protecttranskids
#commander
#rejectniceguys
#eattherich
#notmypresident
#thisgamewasneveryours
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>>97554190

Friendly reminder that jews of the coast changed the flavor text on this card because redditors who don't play this game and very often even hate it and only pretend for clout started tattooing the orzhov signet on their bodies like the goyim slaves that they are.
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>>97554242
>Exile all non White permanents
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>standard store championship brings in sweats that aren't regulars that play at RCs
>overhear one making fun of dimir tempo laughing at how people are still playing it
>I'm playing it
>go 2-2
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>>97554259
It was changed in 2021 to remove the no-no word of "slave".
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>>97554398
Bro just play [INSERT NEW BROKEN UB THING HERE] and your wr goes up 50%.
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>that guy who is constantly talking during your turn
>that guy who is calling all your triggers as you do them and touching your dice and cards
I want to strangle these cunts
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>>97554259
>>97554424
>People within the lore are literally slaves.
>Until the SoCal inner city midwits break the fourth wall to universally impose their ideology onto the setting's entire cosmos.
These are the same people who are confused at how people become tyrants, btw.
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New secret lair art for Olivia
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What happened to mtgag the thread is just gone lmao FUCK
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>>97554769
>What happened to mtgag the thread is just gone lmao FUCK
ded game
ded thread

This one too, soon. It's already taking almost a week to get through a single thread.
Shit's dead, yo.
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We need to somehow convince WotC that Gay Bolas is intrinsically tied to the health of a 60-card format. Preferably Legacy.
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>>97554565
why does she look like a smug cunt instead of comfy and benevolent
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>>97554851
>We need to somehow convince WotC that Gay Bolas is intrinsically tied to the health of a 60-card format. Preferably Legacy.
Legacy?
More like Gay Bolussy xD
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>>97553745
>what card do you think best embodies each of the 5 colors
that's a difficult question... I don't think I could choose a single card for each...

white - Glorious Anthem (equity, balance, and wide board presence)
blue - Preordain (insight, knowledge, and card advantage via drawing)
black - Dark Confidant ("Greatness, at any cost" the flavour says it all)
red - Lightning Bolt (straightforward, impulsive, direct damage)
green - Giant Growth (Timmy likes big creatures!)
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>>97553745
My picks.
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The problem with UB is that you eventually run out of good franchises, so what then, Return to Final Fantasy?
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>>97554965
Final Fantasy again but this time it's not fucking shit and they print Paine.
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>>97554965
Of course, we're already getting Return to Lord of the Rings.
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>>97554859
Please understand all female characters must now girlboss and be arrogant while laughing in the “Nyohohoho~” pose
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>>97554821
what went so wrong? where they failed?
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>>97554988
>what went so wrong?
All of it.

>where they failed?
Yes. It went wrong where they failed, which is in every aspect.
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When the color pie dies, so does the game. This is the future you chose.
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>>97554769
>>97554821
The namefag that makes them had his youtube posted so he's laying low for a while.
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Whiteschixo?
More like RIGHTschizo.
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>>97554988
One picture is worth a thousand words...
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>>97555320
>make it look bad on purpose
I hate new things
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>>97555187
Here is my favorite white card. The more I look at him the more I am convinced he doesn't have legs.
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>>97555417
His legs are the horse, anon.
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>>97555431
sure
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>>97555187
The color pie mandates white be shit, sorry.
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>>97555187
>color pie
Has been dead for a long time. When was the last time you saw a black suicide deck in standard? White weenie? Either of those in any significant portion of the format? Those two decks are quite important to the identities of either color and yet they're nowhere to be found. Suicide has pretty much been pretty much killed off entirely by MTG card design in the last 15 years with all the lifelink spam in both white and black in addition to the grand excess of cards that gain life in addition to their effects. White weenie itself has barely been anything close to viable in the last few years. And then every other creature in every color has been some variant on Quirion dryad at least for the last decade. Every color is getting some affinity variant (whether or not it's called affinity). Every color can do anything as long as you give it the right drawback. And then you find out that Izzet is yet again the strongest deck in the format.
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>>97555444
>nosewater and Gavin Kikey mandate
Fire design equality is a TALL ASK apparently
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>>97555574
>Every color can do anything as long as you give it the right drawback.
White can’t win the game.
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>>97555583
But white winning the game would be racist!!
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>>97555589
How? Every mono white “human” card is a nigger or beaner now
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>>97555711
Stop asking questions goy.
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>>97555583
In Avatar every other white card had draw.
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>>97555583
Green has 0 removal. Cry harder.
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>>97555756
Green has turn 3 Craterhoof in Standard
Eat shit covered shekels kike
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>>97555756
>Green has 0 removal.
Partially correct, but not really correct.
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The reason Green has no removal is because it has the biggest threats.
>Blue, red and black now have bigger threats than Green.
Green should get removal now.
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>>97555863
>>Blue, red and black now have bigger threats than Green.
>Green should get removal now.
Green still technically gets the biggest threats, the problem is that most cards rely on etbs more than they rely on sheer power and toughness. Black has also struggled to maintain relevance now that bounce spells, damage spells and counter spells just do everything kill spells effectively accomplish and way more. I brought it up back when the hybrid mana commander topic was going around, but if WotC doesn't wanna go back to pre-FIRE levels of creature design, they're probably gonna have to start making counter spells outside of blue so that other colors have answers to cards that only care about etb or death triggers.
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>>97555911
>Green still technically gets the biggest threats
No it fucking doesn't.
No green body is bigger than what Proft's makes.
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>>97555919
I get what you mean, but that doesn't count.
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>>97555931
>but that doesn't count.
It literally is the only thing that counts.
What matters is stats on the board, not how you got there.
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>>97555911
>Green still technically gets the biggest threats
lol
this nigga never heard of Eldrazi
Green is the "ramp for the colors that actually do things" colors and has been since Rise
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>>97555835
You're not even white.
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>>97555985
You’re not even human, kike
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>>97555963
>It literally is the only thing that counts.
Even if it did count, they banned it in standard. Clearly giving blue such an easy-to-maintain growth card was a mistake.
>What matters is stats on the board, not how you got there.
Well when you put it like that...

>>97555972
When was the last time Eldrazi got printed in standard, Anon (EoE and Foundations don't count)? Even outside standard, they still heavily rely on green and/or their own fake color.
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>>97556021
>Well when you put it like that...
I have never seen an Ouroboroid grow larger than what Proft produced.

Ouroboroid is a white card, not a green card.
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>>97556021
>When was the last time Eldrazi got printed in standard, Anon (EoE and Foundations don't count)? Even outside standard, they still heavily rely on green and/or their own fake color.
No it was a mono white deck.
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>Every Eldrazi deck in modern has been mono green or Gruul
What did schizo kikes mean by this?
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>>97556028
>Ouroboroid is a white card, not a green card.
Tell that to Gavin Kikey, who’s been giving every nonwhite color free +1 counter mechanics (yes even Grixis colors like Profts, Mako and that Avatar pursuit enchantment).
I told you all that the kikes were on a mission to strip white of everything in its color identity, but nobody cared.
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>>97556049
Eldrazi hasn't cared about white since MH3, get with the times.
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>>97556058
FUCKING SERIOUSLY thoug,
Ouroburoid, a card designed to buff WIDE boards with +1/+1 COUNTERS is WHITE-aligned.
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>4 mana 1/3
Yeah that's a white card.
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>>97556074
FACTS.
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>>97556070
JOTC saw the card Basri’s Solidarity and said “Oy vey that belongs in every color now”
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>There was a point where I was disgusted at every trigger moving from Upkeep to EOT, shortening the window to answer problem cards.

>That was barely a year ago.
>We're ALREADY at the point where every single fucking trigger is at the start of combat, making the window EVEN SMALLER and forcing reactions to precombat, leaving postcombat mains open.

They literally just don't even have the remotest of concerns for balance or preventing power creep. WotC's attitude is literally just "Fuck it, break the game."
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>>97556093
wait till you hear about ENTERS
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>>97556109
Enters only happens once.
But yes, I would live "When ~ enters and at the beginning of combat on your turn..." to be implemented.
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>>97556069
Standard was white.
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>>97556117
>colorless cards
>artifacts
>energy lands
>black dip
>colorless utility lands
Not white
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>>97556115
they have already started implementing "if it was cast" clauses because the etbs are too strong and cheap to cheat in so I'd say some etb creatures must be countered even before moving to next phase
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>>97556117
>Standard was white.
>Even outside standard,
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>>97556117
NOOOOOOOOOOO
UNLESS IT'S MONO WHITE HUMAN TRIBAL WITH ONLY HETEROSEXUAL CAUCASIAN MEN ON THE ART IT IS FAKE WHITE!!!!!
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>>97556011
I like how Whiteschizo doesn't even pretend to be white ever since he accidentally revealed he's a towelhead. Li'l muzzie dude at least owns his heritage.
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>>97556115
>Enters only happens once.
Oh man, if only.
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>>97556117
>concealed courtyard
wow I wonder why the deck ran those instead of plains
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>>97556163
>they have already started implementing "if it was cast" clauses because the etbs are too strong and cheap to cheat in
SYKE
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>>97556117
>Cast Out
>more proof that White already had Flash
>Gavin Kikey presenting himself as some brilliant innovator proclaiming “OyVey we’re going to START giving white Flash!”
Why does nobody (except me) ever call him out on his kikety lies?
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>>97556185
>Why does nobody (except me) ever call him out on his kikety lies?
Most of his sins are directly related to commander, and you're not allowed to talk about that here.
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>>97551842
>What is your favorite ramp card?
The undisputed GOAT of course
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Come to Brazil /tg/...
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>>97555721
>the white people are in the room with us right now
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>TQ
Uro and his dick suckin lips
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>we live in a time line where "once per game" clauses are all but inevitable
grim
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>>97556621
>Implying WotC would willingly restrict a card like that
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>>97556621
epic spells are pratically "once per game" since you don't get to cast anything else
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>>97556759
Okay, this is epic
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>>97556759
>new thing
:(
>old thing (also japan)
:D
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Does anyone know why sibsigs are Romero-like in original Tarkir and Death Becomes Her-like in Dragonstorm?
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>>97556621
>Loot's Temporal Typhoon
>1U
>Sorcery
>Restart the game. Cast a spell called "Loot's Temporal Typhoon" only once each game.
PRINT IT, YOU COWARDS
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>>97556621
>>97556744
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>>97556831
>Does anyone know why sibsigs are Romero-like in original Tarkir and Death Becomes Her-like in Dragonstorm?
WotC hired based on vibes rather than talent and ended up with 500 uneducated, incompetent gay millennials developing MTG.
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>>97556868
That's just Monstrous with extra steps.
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>>97556959
WotC had a design document where they said most Exhaust abilities put counters on cards because they didn't trust players to remember otherwise
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>spend days researching and assembling a deck
>try it out
>get stomped by some retard that put zero thought into his deck and is simply using a meta deck he found online
Wow, epic game!
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>>97556868
>>97556959
I honestly can't fucking believe that they made a keyword so open and opted to literally just make it Monstrous by having almost every activation add +1/+1 counters like wow great job guys, visionary design holy fuck.
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>>97556981
Post deck
You won't
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>>97556993
Idk, I haven't played in a couple years, but that's why I quit, because I like all the mechanics and interactions and builds and stuff, but the fact that metas exist is what ruins it for me
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>>97556981
Brewing just isn't worth it anymore.
Brews used to be able to at least compete. I was usually happy with a ~35-45% winrate for shitbrews.


The game has just degenerated to the point where regular brews or jank have no chance. You simply can't play the game fairly anymore. The thing that lets brews thrive is for them to have time to do their thing. We're in a meta now where control decks in Standard are killing you on turn 4, there's simply no room for interesting gameplay.
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See, that's the difference between you and I; when I say how shit this game is, I mean it. I experience it. I live it. You niggas are just trying to fit in.
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>>97557007
Yeah, exactly
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>>97555415
in fariness, the turtles canonically eat horrific pizza toppings
not saying there should be pizza lands or a turtles UB set or any of this shit, but when there IS one, the turtles order a nightmarish pizza every episode like
>hey can we get an extra large double pepperoni double marshmallow pizza with medlar jam drizzle and a gochujang vegan chiiz stuffed crust?
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Give me back my sexy gypsy women in MtG
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You're a creative lead on MTG.
You're in a meeting. Someone from the art team raises a finger,
>"Uhhhhhh xyr? I have an idea!"
Everybody claps. After the applause, xey continue.
>"We should make the lands for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles sloppy pizza slices."

How do you respond?
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>>97557103
>How do you respond?
I take my dick out and start pissing on everybody, security comes into the room and try to stop me, but I'm too fucking fast so I piss on them too.
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>>97557125
>I take my dick out
*THUD*
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>>97557125
You have about 600mL or a little over 20 fluid Oz. Use them wisely.
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>>97557133
>Use them wisely.
I've trained my whole life for this.
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>>97557103
>How do you respond?
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>>97557103
Literally. I would ritual execute all of the Hasbro and WotC directives.
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>>97557007
I knew brewing died when JOTC literally printed a precon into avatar with lessons. We Yugioh now
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>>97557103
by modding them into arena months before they're released and making the mod publicly available

want the link?
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Is there a way to beat dino commander decks without putting 8 board wipes in my deck like an asshole? I'm getting really tired of getting run over because my opponent untapped with a single dino and 6 lands
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>>97557256
>tripposter
>frogposter
>arenaposter
wow, a true trifecta of retardation here
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>>97557300
fpbp
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>>97557295
ask here
>>97550801
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>>97556167
Nice try Autumn
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>>97557300
baby got a boo boo?
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>>97555583
I hate the game devolving into drawspamslop
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Our guy has spoken
https://youtube.com/shorts/4J8w5ctaEB0
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>>97557381
Worst offender is 4Color elementals now
>turn 2 Ashling
>turn 3 ramp into roaming throne
>Shit out double value every turn afterward, wrath’ng the board doesn’t matter
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>>97554087
I will never play modern again.
-F.I.R.E. design
-The One Ring (banned, I know)
-Modern Horizons block constructed
-LoTR
- Energy
-Ajani
-Invoke Elementals
-The youtubers that shill Modern
-Powercreep like never before
-Universes Beyond
-Pronouns at tournaments
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>>97557065
gypsies are sata-I mean racist chud
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>>97557421
I never saw this subhuman before but I hate him already
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>>97557421
>"Standard is the healthiest it's been in a while."
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>>97557421
I cannot stress enough how I have never even heard of this individual before, he might as well have popped into existence the moment I opened that link
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>>97551842
It's not great but I love it
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>>97557492
Cool it with the anti-semitism
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>>97557495
he cute :)
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>>97557484
That peak before the fall is War of the Spark
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>>97557596
moving away from blocks has been an absolute disaster. yes I know GRN/RNA/WAR was not officially a block but it might as well have been one. even the stupid 2 set "blocks" were better than just disconnected sets that radically shift the tone of the game every 3 months
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>>97557626
>Third set of block is so bad it ruins the game forever
What if Bolas was in the right trying to destroy the multiverse?
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>>97557640
>What if Bolas was in the right trying to destroy the multiverse?
If?
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>Return to Theros
https://youtu.be/zvvrluxpFVI
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>>97554138
I going of their philosophy not gameplay mechanics.
"Perfection through Knowledge."
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>>97557859
>I going of their philosophy not gameplay mechanics.
Those are the same thing you idiot.
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>>97557421
What is it with commander players wanting to play the most broken strategies imaginable, no matter how expensive the deck is? His color videos are kinda funny, even if they're shitpost slop.

>>97557484
I'm convinced WotC are too scared to ban anything because they know there's a strong possibility it'll result in one or two decks dominating the format.
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>>97557495
He a good boy and i cry for all the bad stuff that happens to him after he ramp.
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>>97554565
Fixed
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>>97556831
They properly preserved the bodies once they lost their slave status.
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>>97553745
White: Martial Coup
Blue: Cryptic Command
Black: Dark Confidant
Red: Faithless Looting
Green: Tribute to the World Tree
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>>97557869
It's the near-limitless of Yugioh in a multi-man format; making it a mixture of an arms-race and trying to be "funny".
So you'll have people try to kill everyone within one turn on one side; and people going "My creature is now 100/100 with [keyword soup]" on the other
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>>97557905
Mah man.
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>>97557905
>Rosalina is hundred of years old chud
>looks like a liitle girl.
>???
>profit
Nintendo is pedos lmao fucking freaks.
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>>97553745
White - Savannah Lions
Black - Lord of The Pit
Red - Raging Goblin
Blue - Storm Crow
Green - Grizzley Bears
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>>97558118
Deluded aspie
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>>97558152
VBASED
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>>97554965
They 100% of 1000% started working on another final fantasy set IMMEDIATELY after the success of that set
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Commander Legends: Battle for Ivalice
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Rooms should be lands or artifacts
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>>97558229
The theme of Duskmourn is "Enchantments matter"
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>>97557626
Two block was the solved ideal of set blocks it was enough world building without a too much filler
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>>97558236
but that doesn't actually match the theme of the set
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>>97558244
You are retarded. Between all the enchantment creatures and eerie mechanic, it was enchantment set.
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>>97558263
You are retarded. How is a room an enchantment rather than a land or artifact?
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Front Door 1W
Artifact - Room
When this enters attach it to a land.
When this enters or becomes tapped, choose a creature. That creature gets +0/+4 for as long as this land is untapped.
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>>97558265
Because they are not normal rooms.
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>>97558265
The same way a castle is an enchantment.
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>>97558319
it shouldn't be thoughbeit
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Would you play it?
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I don't play legendary creatures, no.
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>>97557060
look good or bad, the lands primary color should represent the mana, if EVERYHING IS YELLOW i cannot do a easy read of open mana, its shit both to look at and gameplay wise
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>>97557421
>standard is the healthiest been
>i am a new standard player
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>>97558361
xhe said it's the healthiest it's been 'in awhile'
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>>97558372
he outed himself as a FF tourist
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>>97558355
Fair point, I hadn't thought of that and I concede you're right.

I think full art lands should be
>basics only
>land only
>not spaceships
>not icons
>not sigils
>not pizza
>if they feature people, those people are tiny specks

but I'm also on team "literally all UB is an abomination" so at this point I hang around just to watch the world burn, I want the skinwalker wearing magic to die.
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The cycle is complete
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Retarded question but if someone makes let's say 10 Vampire tokens with one effect I can make them lose 10 life with this right?
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>>97558466
Yes
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>>97558466
Yes because it says "when another creature" rather than "when one or more creatures"
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>>97558341
Everyone in this channel performatively hates commander
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>>97555320
are there any cards even worth playing in this set, it looks pretty bad overall, Casey Jones maybe?
>goongala
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>>97558265
The room has an enchantment.
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>>97558384
>>if they feature people, those people are tiny specks
Behold! A full art land!
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>>97558471
>>97558476
Thank you
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>>97558514
I guess I left myself open for that.
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>>97553822
i like opening packs i just expected there to be some reason these packs were 4 times as expensive. yeah getting scammed for 30 dollars as opposed to 400 would be quite considerable
but you are still right anyways. i have only ever bought boosters for 2 sets in the last 4 years so i don't feel that bad, but still
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>>97558319
Should've been a fortification.

>>97558459
>Sneak U; Draw two cards.
Even in the perfect scenario, this is miles worse than most of the shit in standard. Poor Donnie...
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>>97558459
Imagine if we had this for the hopeless nightmare deck, would've been silly. Honestly still might be somewhere, it's still an easy 1 mana draw 2 with an ornithopter or 2 mana draw 2 with a tamiyo.
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>>97558265
How is food an artifact?
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>>97558755
because wotc is full of flavor-hating kikes
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>>97558755
It's very, very stale
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>>97551842
Anybody hyped for the turtles set? Feels like pretty low effort so far. Might do 2-3 drafts and then wait for strix.
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>>97558755
I hate this too (especially ygra which turns creatures into artifacts)
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>>97558880
he turns them into fossilized poo
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I went 1+bye-3 with Medvedev's sligh list today
0-2 U ZI
0-2 Survival Elves
Bye
1-2 Stiflenought - Would have won 2-1 but I drew nothing for 5 or 6 turns in a row in game 3
2-1 UG Madness - Game 3 was a 1 lander carried by Black Vise; I never drew a second land
It did feel enjoyable to play, but there are changes I would make for my local, diverse meta. I felt like PoP did nothing and I had too many sideboard cards for Dreadnought. I was able to remove 2 Dreadnoughts in game 3, but probably diluted my burn plan too much with how I boarded. I think I kept some bad hands as well that I should've mulled instead.

Full meta
Pyrostatic Sligh
hFEB
Elves
UG Madness
Replenish
Stiflenought
UB Zombie Infestation
Moneyball
Pit rack/Pox
RG Oath Ponza
UW humility control (winner)
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>>97558910
why not Ankh of Mishra?
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>>97558980
I would imagine it's too slow. Turn 1 Vise is usually 3-6 damage, whereas Ankh can be ignored by quite a few decks, the exception maybe being slow control or Turbo Land. Great art though.
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My meme pauper deck went 1-2 tonight.
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>>97558910
>4 Blood Oath and 2 City of Traitors
>4 Mogg Salvage and 3 Overload
Absolutely buck broken by Enchantress gods and Stiflenought chads.

Interesting for a Sligh list but it looks like you're giving up a lot of match ups just to somewhat help on Dreadnought and Enchantress. Reeks of MTGO grinder, the gaps in that sideboard are pretty fucking heinous.
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member Battle? I member
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>>97558607
>i like opening packs
Total consumerist nihilism.
Control yourself, Odysseus.
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>>97559187
Actual meme or post-2019 FIRE soup?
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>>97559302
This model is like this, bunch of sets and mechanics and thematics we never touch again. Battles, Rooms, Start your Engines! , Offspring...
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>>97551842
More like two ramp cards.
I just find it amusing how these two mostly unrelated cards fit together mechanically and thematically.
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>>97558459
Who is the faerie making fun of the turtle. Did Q break containment to troll the turtles. It's hard to imagine a one mana draw 2 not seeing play when you could bounce spyglass siren or floodpits drowner
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>>97558717
>Even in the perfect scenario, this is miles worse than most of the shit in standard.
Intended to be in the same format as Esper Pixies, btw.
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>>97552334

Premodern pisses me off
I'll never afford to play it cause every fucking deck has some $500 card as a mandatory 4-of
Only thing the format's existence does is make the old frames that I prefer cost more
Worst of all worlds
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>>97559582
premodern is the only true magic format left.
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>>97558878
the only thing I'm hyped for is for them to release the 2027 schedule because strixhaven isn't my thing and reality fractured doesn't seem appealing
everything else is just UB slop
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>>97558265
Because they're representing magic rooms created by an evil demon fused with an eternal hell plane
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>>97558302
They are literally normal rooms.
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>>97559663
>Because they're representing magic rooms created by an evil demon fused with an eternal hell plane
That's what a land is, anon.
A location of magic.

God the amounts of retard juice people guzzle just to run cover for the soulless corporate husk that is WorC is INSANE.

Rooms are fucking garbage. It's one of the shitties mechanics ever designed. As clunky and mechanically-broken as Mutate, easily the shittiest flavor of ANY mechanic, and the only ones that saw play are because they were broken ass generic spells and not anything to do with the mechanic itself. TOTAL design failure.
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>>97559679
Not all magic locations are lands, because you can't have 200 fucking lands in a set. There is literally nothing wrong with Rooms. They play literally fine, they represent "magic places" in an enchantment-focused set, and the flavor is also fine. You don't know what you're talking about, there is zero similarity with Mutate beyond "weird frame." Fuck off.
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>>97559698
Hell, there is an entire enchantment subtype specifically used for "magic location" that has existed for years on multiple sets
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Bring back Lantern control.
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Bring back the arena general :(
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Most broken card type in history (artifact) VS most broken card type of today (creature)
Who wins?
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Remember goyim, better removal is a tall ask.
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>>97560608
>Who wins?
Lurrus.
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>>97560689
Does Lurrus win with no artifacts?
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>>97560693
1 copy of Lurrus always beats 1 copy of Academy.
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>>97560704
Okay but how does it work with no banned/restricted list aside from no artifacts in Lurrus and no creatures in Academy?
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>>97560608
Lurrus can bring back artifacts or creatures
Academy only benefits from artifacts
Lurrus wins
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What creatures would benefit most if they were 6/6 tramplers? Been having fun building around this swampy dude.
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>>97560540
You're allowed to make it.
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>>97560708
Lurrus is the most powerful card ever printed.
Academy BARELY challenges Lurrus post-errata.
What matters is how much a single card impacts winrate. The consistency of Companion (Seen 100% of games) means a Companion is better than literally every other card.

Lurrus wins. No other card is in the same tier of power as Lurrus. No other card is within five tiers of power, in fact.
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>>97560727
this twink
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>>97560727
wrong thread but I like Brokkos so I'll allow it
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>>97559582
you were told to buy in 5 years ago when basically every deck except stiflenought was still under $100
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>>97560740
Hmm yes I see
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>>97560740
>>97560608
Academy literally wins before Lurrus ever becomes relevant. It vastly outstrips literally any other land in this game. It's restricted in Vintage- Lurrus is not even close.
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>>97560890
>It's restricted in Vintage- Lurrus is not even close.
Lurrus is banned in Vintage, anon.
Lurrus is the only card that is banned in Vintage.
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>>97560608
we just play them together in PO
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7630771#online
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>>97560742
>>97560756
Very nice anons thank you, my Dad will struggle against these for sure. Sorry to use the wrong thread
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>>97560908
>Lurrus is banned in Vintage, anon.
Anon it has been 5 years that Lurrus was unbanned in Vintage.
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>>97559035
What about turn 1 Ankh via City of Trators/Acient Tomb?


Pros:
- Ank also absolute rapes heavy fetch decks. 1 single fetch creacked = 5 damage
- Colorless damage
- Great against Stasis, Gush, Lairs, Tangle wire


Cons:
- Artifact
- Awful top deck


Overall, would consider 4 Ankh over 4 Flame Rift.
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>>97560918
>singleton hexing squelcher
absolutely devilish, I bet nobody expects it
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>>97560944
>Anon it has been 5 years that Lurrus was unbanned in Vintage.
Lurrus was never unbanned in vintage.

Punished Lurrus was sent to the shadow realm then they unbanned (incorrectly) Not! Lurrus.
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What do I do with this card in Pioneer?
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>>97560984
Attempt to play it and lose to Annex and Lessons.
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>>97560908
I don't think you understand how fucking powerful academy is. Turn 1 wins were a regular ocurrence with it when it was originally released, with the card pool of decades ago. If it is a valid 4-of and you can reliably get it in your opening hand, whoever goes first wins. Simple as that.
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>>97561007
>I don't think you understand how fucking powerful academy is.
Ok boomer.
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>>97561007
>Turn 1 wins were a regular ocurrence with it when it was originally released,
During its entire time legal in "Standard", a turn 1 win with Academy happened two (2) times across all tournaments.
Academy's turn 1 winrate is literally 0.02%.
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>>97561019
and now what is lurrus's turn 1 win rate?
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>>97561047
>and now what is lurrus's turn 1 win rate?
Literally who fucking cares. Lurrus wins almost every game eventually. I'd rather have a 100% winrate than a 1% turn 1 winrate.
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>>97560984
my first idea is extra turns, you play blue creatures that dig for both schemes and extra turns so you can copy them, get some blue ramp spells like growth spiral and some removal, put all of that together and you should have a pile of card you can sculpt into a proper deck
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>people still crying about lurrus
Holy shit you're all so bad. Lurrus was never broken.
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>>97561056
>Literally who fucking cares. Lurrus wins almost every game eventually.
if this is the case why are monowhite Raker and monowhite initiative, two decks that don't run Lurrus, t1 in Vintage right now?
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>>97561083
>Lurrus was never broken.
Hi Mark.
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>>97561092
>if this is the case why are monowhite Raker and monowhite initiative, two decks that don't run Lurrus, t1 in Vintage right now?
t. Person with small brain who can't understand the meaning of the word "almost"
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>>97561093
This is probably the most autistic type of response "people" give on this entire website.
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>>97561103
"Almost all" would mean "almost all." If it has to share significant space in tier 1 then it's not winning almost all games nigga. It's like saying Terror is winning "almost all" games in Pauper. It demonstrably isn't.
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>>97561123
>If it has to share significant space in tier 1 then it's not winning almost all games
Initiative is 10% of the meta.
Lurrus is 50% of the meta.
These are not the same.
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>>97561149
No the fuck it isn't. The Lurrus share is 30% at most, divided across several different archetypes and decks. A single initiative archetype is 12%. Christ you people are dumb.
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>>97561169
>The Lurrus share is 30% at most
>#1 - Lurrus of the Dream-Den - 41%
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>>97561176
source?
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>>97561186
The internet, idiot.
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best sets for chaos draft?
I was going to limit myself to 1 masters pack, was thinking ultimate
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>>97561208
You gotta get at least one Exodus pack in there.
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>>97561208
>best sets for chaos draft?
5th Dawn fucks in chaos draft.
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>>97560608
Lurrus wins because she gets to be the eighth card. Tolarian academy has more mana production, but Lurres is an auto include in any decks that fits the companion restriction. I just wish they would stop giving things more than two eyes without changing other anatomy. Lurrus has no room for a frontal lobe because she has an extra set of eyes in that space.
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Punished Lurrus is the most powerful card ever printed in any card game that isn't named Budew.
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>>97559400
>Actual meme or post-2019 FIRE soup?

4x City Pigeon
1x Spider Man
3x Judge's Familiar
4x Moon Circuit Hacker
2x Eagles of the North
1x Aerie Auxiliary
4x Glint Hawk
1x Summon Choco / Mog


4x Airborne Aids
4x Winged Words
4x Dazzling Denial
2x Lorien Revealed
1x Abjure

4x Cryogen Relic
2x Lembas
1x Squire's Lightblade

18 lands
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>>97561333
A little too rich for my blood.
>>97561341
Sounds good, I'll do 5th dawn, Ultimate Masters and probably one of the un-sets
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>Cunts are running those stupid new elementals
>Deceit is pure aids that both fuck your hand and remove a threat
>Can pump elemental mana in the elemental deck to cast it easy
>Can cheat it out for it's evoke cost and use the bw spider to still get it's bullshit effects off
Pure fucking aids.
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>>97561573
>>Can cheat it out for it's evoke cost and use the bw spider to still get it's bullshit effects off
The spider doesn't get its effects off. It can't do that. What are you talking about? The Elementals only get their effects if cast and they are all mana value 4+ so they can't be cheated with Emptiness period.
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>>97561591
Somebody told me that's how it's worked after I ranted about having to deal with Deceit in an ele deck. I will have to yell at them for making me look silly.
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>>97561591
You get both abilities. Use two blue and two black to cast the spiderman. It enters as a copy of the elemental. The elemental checks what mana color was spent to cast it. The elemental and spider are the same card. It doesn't have the space to get both etb's off of the blue and green elemental.
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>>97561654
Well that doesn't sound like much. You're spending 4 mana to cast a 6 mana card...
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>>97556781
not the same anon , but I feel like epic spells have more space around modern magic desing space than at the time they were made.

I wonder when are they gonna come back.
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>>97561754
That’s literally how Excruciator won the PT, surveiling it into the bin and casting Spiderfag turn 4 to exile their deck
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>>97555320
why not actually based the lands in the interesting locations that are in the tenage mutant universe.

why lazy pizzas? , isn't this going against the point of a crosover

what if I want to onions after playing my blue basic brain mech dimention card or whatever.
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>>97557125
>>97557103
then you get promoted.
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>>97557874
I've been playing Doran, Besieged by Time in EDH and my sloth boy gets his revenge most of the time
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>>97560727
>>97560742
I got hit with that just today in Brawl
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>>97561983
Hopefully never. "What if you couldn't cast any spells but this one ever again" is fundamentally a terrible idea
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>>97560540
>>97562506
Yw
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>tfw thought the lgs mtg transgirl gf thing was a meme
>tfw meet local mtg transgirl who vibes with you
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>>97562614
She vibes with you because she is a male just like you.
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>>97559582
>premodern created
>expands to be included as side event at OS events
>local scenes pop up over NA, SA, Europe
>scenes host events, gather more players
>premodern now bigger than OS events
>webcam leagues, MTGO leagues, larger national events
>anons tell 4chan to buy in, get told premodern isn't a real format
>WOTC repeatedly commits war crimes and shits up multiple eternal formats
>refugees flee into premodern safe haven
>continued local scene development, continued fanatical push from players
>RETVRN poster and BRAZIL poster spam every thread to generate noise and well poison on 4chan
>endless stream of content from increasingly better creators
>MTGO adopts premodern trial league
>well poisoning switches to cost and shitflinging about proxies which 99% of communities in premodern support
>MTGO fully adopts premodern support
>old frame card price explosion, communities remind each other proxies are allowed and encouraged
>crying on 4chan about card prices and unaffordability now that format is scene as more "legitimate"
I'd have more sympathy for you fags if you didn't have at least 10 years to collect, and plenty of warnings and posts here starting about 5 years ago. Proxy up and play, or don't, it truly doesn't matter to Premodern boomers
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>>97562614
Despite how much people here hate trannies I met a tranny through mtg who is one of my favorite players in D&D. Biological men are just better at trad games.

>transgirl gf thing
Look. It's okay if you're gay. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOcYdHwc1Zo&list=RDtOcYdHwc1Zo&start_radio=1
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>>97562731
They are the best at playing make believe. They would probably make a great DM.
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What are some Magic cards for someone who's tfw to intelligent like me?
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>>97562822
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>>97562832
Now THIS is an interesting design. Imagine if it had reminder text babysitting players through basic math, as-if the designers didn't trust the players to have graduated middle school!
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>>97562816
he looks like a faggot
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>>97562832
is this pay 2 draw 1?
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>>97562074
I dig it my dude my guy
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>>97562882
ye it's pretty efficient
>2 mana draw 1
>4 mana draw 2
>6 mana draw 4
>8 mana draw 8
being a sorcery is awkward as hell though
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>>97562855
>Imagine if it had reminder text babysitting players through basic math
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why does everybody sideboard sear instead of broadside barrage
the 1 extra damage kills a lot of stuff and the loot effect is also useful, is it really worth the 1 less cost?
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>>97562872
He bottoms like a faggot too
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>>97562986
>is it really worth the 1 less cost?
Yes.
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>>97563054
But enough about Nicol Bolas.
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>>97563059
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>>97563059
He do be like that.
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>>97562986
>1 mana and one less color
Nigga yes
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posted this in the arena thread but reposting here since it's probably more visible

I'm returning to arena after years away, do I still have to spend all my gold on drafts to actually collect cards at a reasonable rate
I fucking hate limited, nothing about it is fun at all and that's part of why I stopped playing when I did. spending gold on packs was a total waste and you were pretty much forced to funnel gold to the strong draft players if you ever wanted to collect cards

I had enough wcs saved up to immediately build a standard viable deck and I've been having tons of fun playing it for my 4 wins/day and I can build budget meme decks if I want to play more in a day but get bored with my main deck
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>>97563535
go to your lgs instead
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>>97563640
My Trans GF will get jealous if I don't take her along
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>>97563640
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play

premodern
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>>97563929
Post hands, pajeet scammer. I will not buy your overpriced cards you've been hoarding. Fuck off.
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Moar like “bowl ass”
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>>97564054
>Post hands
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>>97564295
>LotR set
>Can't even be bothered to have Smaug drawn as an actual creature
This shouldn't have been art for anything more than a Secret Lair.
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https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7628232#paper
defend this
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>>97564800
>>97564800
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>>97564421
I don't think they were legally allowed to since Smaug didn't actually appear in the book.



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