What the heck happened to D&D? Why is every party some kind of demon fruitcake now? Every retelling I've heard of modern D&D games sounds like an adult swim show that normal people would never watch.Have we really gone from "D&D isn't evil, it's about fighting evil!" to "Only weird bad people play D&D, it's all about gross gay demons now"
Human fighter fags have been battling a perceived injustice that never existed for over a decade now.
>>97579690Both parties I've been in have exactly one human and one Tiefling.And a third one that was all Elves.Someone correct me if I am wrong, but humans are still the most played species.
>>97579745Human fighters are the only line of defense against the complete troonification of the hobby
>"perceived injustice">"b-but they're st-still played th-the most!"Google "playing a human is boring". I have a screenshot, but the resolution is too high, on account of the stigma surrounding playing humans.
>>97579924>Let a vocal minority of troons live in your head rent free and warp your perception of realitylmao
>>97579690>Why is every party some kind of demon fruitcake now?You are Nogame scum that never saw a party with your own eyes>Every retelling I've heard of modern D&D games sounds like an adult swim show that normal people would never watchBecause these retellings come from culture war activists and are made up by Nogames like (you)>Have we really gone from "D&D isn't evil, it's about fighting evil!" to "Only weird bad people play D&D, it's all about gross gay demons now"No. You would know if you played games. Which (you) dont.
>>97579924>playing a human is boringI googled that and all the results on the first page were people saying how playing a human isn't boring
>>97579932You realize that screeching this in every thread about every subject only proves to everyone that you're delusional, right?
>>97579979projection
>>97579988No, you're the only one inventing things about the OP personally because you disagree with them, you've literally just made up some story about them that only exists in your mind: A delusion.
>>97579911Said the retarded nogames.
>>97579994>tourists arguing about dnd If you actually have a shit about the game you wouldn’t have made some bullshit culture troll thread and instead played it
Stupid nogame posts a comic from another stupid nogames and talks about something that only happened inside the head of people who never played the thread.
>>97580075>You have to keep playing a bad game full of bad people or else you don't care about how bad people made the game badWhat is this, advertising for MtG?
We're all in agreement that OP and the people who are agreeing are no games who are either trolling or retarded.
Fuck you guys for being mean to the cutie in the OP.
>>97579745/thread
>>97579979>You realize that screeching this in every threadIronic, given it's a thread using the 4th template of "THE TIEFLINGFAGS ARE TO GET US ALL" shitpost that started in 2017.In fact, the image you are using was specifically paid for by faggots like you, and the drawfag was very open he was paid double to make the joke happen.
>>97580131>either trolling or retarded.Why picking just one?
>>97580485>here's my fanfiction about the artist of this picture you posted to go with my fanfiction about the OPoof
>>97580496>Drawfag explaining himself, since one of his regular characters is a tiefling, is fanfiction, says randon nogames that doesn't even know the source of image he's using.
>>97580485Jon eventually took it down, since, duh. As if taking source prevented people from reposting endlessly.At this point I wouldn't be surprised if the other two images nogamez are using were also commissioned by them. Man, talking about all the excess time and money used to chase after schizophrenic delusions
>>97580524uh huh, sure thing
>>97579690There are CERTAIN PEOPLE who play D&D because they want to play someone that deals with oppression but in a world where there is nine, because CERTAIN PEOPLE are obsessed with "marginalized groups" in real life so their fantasy is a world where there's no such thing. That's why WotC had tiefling's origins changed to a city that got yoinked into the Nine Hells, rather than having fiendish heritage, because fiendish heritage justifies prejudice, and CERTAIN PEOPLE can't tolerate the existence of such an idea.
>>97580100You have to participate in the hobby to have a say about how it actually goes.If you don't, you are theorycrafting and projecting.Which is also why nogames threads are always about Platonic ideas of gaming and purely abstract shit that only some thirdie could come up with when grappling with the idea of playing pretend.Case the point: the supposed "overflow" of tieflings. Which was true - 20 fucking years ago, and leading to them being added to base in 4e. Then it died down back to insignificant percentage. But how would you know and even understand the meme, if it's all alien concepts to you and your total lack of on-hand experience leaves you with nothing but old-ass memes.The other things faggots like you bitch don't even fucking exist in the first place. The screeching about X cards? Nobody but fucking convention tables do that, and they are doing that solely due to obligation of the con regulations. The fucking combat wheelchair? It ended up being so fucking overblown by nogames meming that I doubt anyone would even HEARD about this thing being added if not all the endless shitposting about it.Actual on-table problems, like (yet again) overflow of vidya fags who passively wait for "script activation" or the obnoxious trend of intentionally feeding players wrong information about chambers so mapping will be all fucked? Nah, who would care about such stuff, it would take playing games to even notice, plus it's not something you can then use in an idiotic culture war.
>>97580585didn't read, your demands are meaningless because no one respects you
>>97580592... what fucking demands?Nigger, there is low-effort trolling, and then there is being just stupid.
>>97579932In your mind how can the community/industry preferences in artstyle, tone and content be critiqued validly?
>>97580584>Selling product is now participating in a make-belief clash of cultures
>>97580597>You have to
>>97580605Nta, but it's shrimple:If you are bitching about how the hobby runs, you first need to have a first-hand experience with it.It's like trying to discuss paintings. You either saw them, or it's a guessing game.
>>97580613>ESL struggles with English, episode 97579690
>>97580624Pretending not to understand things again are we
>>97580617Ok. Now what makes it impossible for someone who has first hand experience with it to think tiefling lore is relatively bad or that they’re too commonplace?
>>97580643Because nobody cares about the fucking lore nor plays those games in accordance to their prescribed setting.And you would know that, if you actually played any, even fucking once.Hence - the importance of on-hand experience vs. theorycrafting about the Platonic idea of a tiefling player and the implications of a lore
We already had at least one of these threads up, do your fucking job jannies.
>>97580682We are having three of those right now, and two identical human male fighter threads, too.Jannies are doing their job, which for /tg/ means "fuck all"
>>97580643Literally nobody is forcing you to use that lore. Nobody. And as already pointed out - you would know that, if you weren't a never-game
>>97580690>I'm losing badly, now I'm going to complain about 4chan on 4chan
>>97580709... who are you even quoting?
>>97580716And there you go pretending not to understand things again
>>97579911>obsessed with troons>thinks he'll become one if he plays a character that isn't as much like his IRL self if possibleYou aren't fooling anyone but yourself.
>>975806431) Lore is prescribed by the GM, for the duration of the campaign/group2) Tieflings barely scrarch it to 6th most played race, and by player count, they are still below 10%.But I guess let's talk about how human fighters, THE most popular character type by a large margin, are actually oppressed, for that's what memes told you. Who cares about reality, when you can go full schizo.
>>97580608Those kind of people shouldn't have anything marketed to them no matter how much they spend, because they're scum.
>>97580759I guess I will have to be the one to break it for you:Selling product is about getting profit off delivering stuff that's in demand. It's always cheaper to use existing demand than create new one with marketing.And all each and every company cares is making profit, since not making it means going out of business.But sure, why not. Go start your own business and then declare who you are even serving in the first place. I wish you sincerely luck with not removing your paying customers in the process.
>>97580759Well yes, that's why they needed to slowly infiltrate the hobby until they had critical mass at the corporate levels before filling every product with their political ideology. No company would purposefully throw away all their money otherwise.
>>97579690>Why is every party some kind of demon fruitcake now?Because the characterization options in mainstream DnD are tied to race and not background/playtime and therefore if you, as a player, want to try a new special ability you must choose a new race. I've DM'd for a couple groups and PC'd in about 10, and I've only met 1-2 people for whom "Playing a unique race" was a thing they cared about. In contrast, I've met a LOT of people for whom "Trying new character gameplay" was a significant thing they cared about.If you want your PCs to stop playing weird races, you must allow them to play characters with unique gameplay and mechanics WITHOUT having to play 4-armed monkey people from the planet Niggalor. That means:>More doing, less rolling>More using character background/game history to aid gameplay, less using racial advantages and special abilities to aid gameplay>More items with special abilities for players to use>More access to spells and special abilities without needing a class/race>Using Tasha's rules around racial skill distributions to encourage picking a race for RP reasons and NOT for gameplay reasonsIf your table is full of freakshit players and that bothers you, know that it is YOUR FAULT AS A DM.
>>97580759>>975807824e added tieflings to baseline not because of some make-belief conspiracy, but because there was fuck-huge demand for that. Natural, home-grown demand, coming directly from the zeitgeist of the mid-00s and related gaming.And you are bitching about state of things that are supposedly result of current edition, 15 tucking years later.By your logic, company shouldn't be delivering product that's in demand, because... what, exactly? Other than disliking making money, apparently
>>97580811nobody is listening to your ridiculous historical revisionism
>>97580796>>Using Tasha's rules around racial skill distributions to encourage picking a race for RP reasons and NOT for gameplay reasonsThis is flat-out impossible in any DnD since ADD 2e came out. I'd doubt it was ever possible, but at least it used to be you needed to pass minimal bar with stats to play as a nonhuman, not simply making oneAnyway - race is so integrated into mechanics, it's impossible to make a choice that isn't entirely driven by the mechanical side of things. And various races are deliberately written with specific class(es) in mind, adding to the combo.But that's fine. That's literally how the game is being designed.The problem is that there are people who have no clue about it, but are still offended that someone is having wrong character and project bullshit.
>>97560159>>97521350>>97566078What is the point of making troll threads like this and filling them with the same stupid posts ad nauseum.
>>97580817Peak irony>>97580830What else you expect from never-games handing out here? What? Playing games?
>>97580704I don't care that no one is forcing me to use it. Now answer the question, what makes it impossible for an experienced player to want to critique the community/industry preferences?
>>97579690>What the heck happened to D&DNothing>Why is every party some kind of demon fruitcake nowIt isn't>Every retelling I've heard of modern D&D games sounds like an adult swim show that normal people would never watchFind better sources. Better yet - start playing yourself>Have we really gone from "D&D isn't evil, it's about fighting evil!" to "Only weird bad people play D&D, it's all about gross gay demons now"Mate, you must make strawman more relatable. Otherwise I've got nothing to your random word salad
>>97580849>>97579932>new poster here I posted it again I mean I posted a new post
>>97580740This is wrong. Most players who play races besides Human, Dwarf, Elf, Halfling, etc.will tend to pick different races every time they roll a character. So Tieflings, as a relatively high ranked non-traditional race, are basically one of the more common choices for players who like to play "Unusual" races.So the perception that a given table tends to include one or more "Freaks" is accurate. If you look at the table I attached, from D&D beyond, you can see that humans are about 25k, but the total count is ~100k. So assuming a random selection, the chance of getting a table of 4 humans is ~1/4^4, or <2%.Alternatively, the probability of getting a table of 4 non-humans is 3/4^4, or 31%. So If you DM serial campaigns, especially with different players, it's extremely likely that you get a table with no humans. In fact, 10% of the time you will get that multiple times in a row. 1% of DMs will see it 4 times in a row. Depending on game length you could easily go years at a regularly-meeting table with no human PCs.In general, players like to play different races over time. Humans, Elves, and Dwarves are dominated by new or traditionally-minded players. That's okay. Other races seem weird because, frankly, Wizards is just really bad at creating new races. If "Chinese people" were a race that had the same abilities as Tieflings I guarantee it would see a similar or higher level of player engagement
>>97580841You just changed the question, so which one am I supposed to answer:> what makes it impossible for someone who has first hand experience with it to think tiefling lore is relatively bad or that they’re too commonplace?Or>what makes it impossible for an experienced player to want to critique the community/industry preferences?Because the first one already got an answer and the second makes no sense. Are you ESL? Maybe you wanted to maybe ask "what makes it impossible for an experienced player to critique the community/industry preferences" instead? And the answer to that is simple: an experienced player would complain about completely different things, the ones that actually regard the sort of behaviour the rules of the game are fostering, or how said rules work. But they wouldn't waste their breath on lore, that's for sure, knowing they can make their own any second, and that it changes each edition anyway. Just like they wouldn't care about quality of artwork, and yet somehow it's also a go-to shitposting subject.
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>>97580864Ever occured to you that tieflings are simply in core rules, or I'm expecting too much from a moron like you?I mean fuck, you just posted numerical data that disapproves your bullshit... as a way to support it. Did you drop out of school by 5th grade or something?
>>97580829I agree. In general, I write my campaign primers for my players to explain what kinds of characters they should build. I like them to pick what they want, so I usually pick something like "You are a mercenary" or "You are an adventurer", so they feel free to mess with combos.However, I've also done other things. When I played Shadowdark I told them that they had to play a dog. They could pick any racial/class ability they wanted, but their character as-written had to be a dog. This wasn't an issue, and in fact they had a good amount of fun with it. You just need to work with your players. Someone who wants to play a Tiefling probably isn't trying to be edgy (it does happen though, I know those kinds of people). Usually they just want to try something new.>>97580888Nigger. Also checked
>>97580877uh huh, sure thing
>>97580864>Tiefling>6th most popular>7.5% of total player countRemind me - what were you trying to achieve by posting that table? Especially when I said just that - they are 6th and can't even get past 10%.
>>97580910To provide data for my point which is>In general, players like to play different races over time.and>Most players who play races besides Human, Dwarf, Elf, Halfling, etc.will tend to pick different races every time they roll a character.I'm not here to complain about "freakshit". I'm saying that players pick weird races because they're bored, and generally there's a small number of players who habitually play humans, and a much larger number who play a variety of races to try out new mechanics.
>>97580895And I just don't care why people are making their characters the way they do. It's their PC, not mine. 9 out of 10 is going to just piling mechanical combo and/or build experiment.Hence why this whole "HURR TIEFLING DURR" is so fucking tiresome. It is flat-out impossible to make a good warlock in 5e that isn't a tiefling, just like your best bet with a ranger is wood elf. Not because their lore, but simple mechanics.And especially post-3e DnD drilled into people that either they have mechanically sound character, or they are wasting their time.But I guess it's all just troon conspiracy to ruin the hobby forever and oppress human fighter players, justifying having endless shitposting since summer '17.Which was almost 9 years ago. Nine fucking years of this shit.
>>97580930>>97580949Because I don't feel like repeating myself.Mechanical advantage > any other consideration.It's the state of the game for the past 25 years.Unless we can agree that bored players experiment with their options, and that in turn ties with mechanical co-relation
>>97579690I dunno. My current party is a warforged, a bear, a wolf, a cat, a dragon, and one human, and only two of them are gay.
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>>97580949>>97580955To be a bit meta, I used to love coming to this board as far back as 2020-2021 because I felt like there were so many interesting discussions. Even the bait threads like this were interesting.Since then I've found I get a lot more out of just playing, picking up some of the nu-SR books and adding/removing whatever I like, watching dungeontube, and talking about this stuff with my DM friends. Especially with how shitty the captcha is. I'm in a /lit/ discord and I kinda wish there was something like that for here. Idk. I came here tonight expecting to find something neat and it feels like every thread is just people bitching about how the thread sucks instead of actually talking about anything.
>>97580974It's just one guy, he's a nutcase.
>>97580974Maybe because this thread does suck and is literally template-based trollpost in the OP?I also fail to see what's there left to discuss. It's the same non-arguments to non-problems that were dangled around in 2017 and they long, long ago lost any semblance of being fresh or interesting. Even the "no u" replies in tune of >>97580721 are cannedIt's done to death.
>>97580974Also>as far back as 2020-2021 >as far backHoly newfag
>>97579745>perceived injustice that never existed>>97579928>oh, it does exist but it's a vocal minorityHmm.I get the feeling that if I go through the effort providing detailed and specific evidence, all I'd get in response is something to the effect of "well okay it isn't a vocal minority but it isn't that bad" or "you're bad for noticing".
>>97580974You actually enjoyed '20 - '21?The board was well into its decline at that point.I mean, it wasn't quite as bad as it is now, but those years were still very much past this board's glory days.>/lit/ discordI guess that explains everything I need to know.
>>97581138My favorite is the ole>It's not happening>Okay it's happening but it's a good thing>It's always been this way
>>97580871Either question is fine since they get to the same point. And no, my wording was exactly right, I asked why is it impossible for an experienced player to WANT to critique x, because it doesn’t leave room for the response “it’s not impossible they would just never do it”. I won’t accuse you of being an ESL, just uncurious about language. Anyway, your answer implies a real player would never talk about lore or artwork and that’s just bogus.
>>97579932no game scum I am stealing that
>>97581138>>97581194>I'm opressed when people make different choices than I doThe fragilest of all snowflakes is you.
>>97581421>I'm oppressed when people want their games without gay demons>But you're a snowflake because... I need to play a purple transvestite with horns
>>97581437No one said that. Are you hearing voices again?
>>97581421No one said that. Are you hearing voices again?
>>97580974>I'm in a /lit/ discord and I kinda wish there was something like that for here.There is but they're a bunch of cliquey faggots who stopped recruiting new members years ago and would just haze them into leaving back when they did.
>>97581415First time on this board? Nogames has been the go-to insult for anyone you disagree with here for the better part of a decade.
>>97581421Meds
>>97580849>>97579932>don't believe your lying eyesWho do you think you're going to gaslight here?
>>97579745FPBP>/pol/fags seethingyou fuckers called tabletop fag shit for near 50 years, you johnny come lately children.
>>97579690This is old news, I'm waiting for D&D to go full fortnite/CoD with the crossovers. By which I mean for it to become exactly what Magic has become.
>>97581421It's very funny when the people who kill themselves and others over pronouns try to "reclaim" snowflake as "their" word.
>>97579690Have you ever played a game like ever?
>>97581792Have you?
I ban Thieflings and Half-races in my games
>>97581558>He asked, while pretending his boogeyman is real
After reading through this shit I'm willing to assume this thread is 2-4 guys arguing with each other
>>97581891Throw in at least one or two trolls pretending to be retarded, and that’s every thread of this ilk
>>97581949I don't really think it's pretending. It's just being retarded for different reason than stated aloud
>>97581949The thread is retarded anyway, because the cause of the symptoms OP is bitching about has been explained thousands of times.No value can be drawn from this pile of shit, beyond some autism-beam firing and shitposting.
>>97581851>mfw i can't be a tiny thiefWhy even live?
>>97579690>What the heck happened to D&DCulture warriors like (You) decided to fight imaginary enemies, trying to project your nonsensical political beliefs into a game of pretend.If people are making a character choice in DnD, they fall under two groups:- they are new (and thus they are going to pick human or elf combo that's familiar from popculture)- they are looking for optimal mechanical build (and thus they are going to pick the best race-class combo); this might have a sub-group of people who experiment with unusual builds to try out their theoryBoth of those you would know, if you had any actual contact with DnD as either player or DM.PSThat image was a fucking paid commission - that's how forced the "joke" is.
>>97581645It's funny when you faggots try to pretend you're not the trannies in question.
>>97582323>That image was a fucking paid commissionWas it really? I remeber it being posted her as a bait to shill that comics.
>>97579690Have you tried mentioning this to the people you play with? You do play, right?
>>97582323I play humans out of fun role-playing reasons. Playing a human doesn't necessitate being too new or too much of a build bro. Eat shit.You're just at reactionary and busy doing boundary maintenance as culture warriors but about a different topic
>>97582683Reading comprehension is clearly not your strongest suit, but hey, you bumped the thread, hurray, the endless shitposting can continue!
>>97582574The guy drawing the comics is a mercenary type - including doing fetish stuff with his characters, of course paid extra. I kinda applaud his business model, along with being very open and upfront about it. Usually drawfags are salty about shit like this, claiming some version of "it's done for the art" or other crap. But here the whole thing started to just earn money and at least he's honest about it.Also, the biggest joke is that when the whole thing started, he was a never-game, basically drawing what he was told. He then started playing for research purposes to make the comic more believable. In other words - a merc drawfag has more games than people paying him to draw.
>why do people enjoy playing make believe differently than me???sorry to hear about your theory of mind.
>>97580605Preferences can't be wrong by definition, hope this helps
>>97580627Ironic.
>>97579747>Someone correct me if I am wrong, but humans are still the most played species.And it's a source of incandescent rage for the freakshitters.
>>97582894Care to post a link to his fetish material? I am a scientist I need it for research purposes.
>>97579690And yet at the moment DnD is probably having more mainstream popularity than ever. In fact, it's common for fa/tg/uys to complain about too many normies playing DnD. So I guess the average person will rather want to play weird fantasy races instead of human male fighters and dwarves?Though personally I've never really witnessed the supposed freakshit invasion in person. Most games I've played have has one or two players who plays some nonstandard race, but that's been the case since 3.5th edition.
>>97579690Yes, and?
I feel like most tiefling bard appreciators aren't actually doing much traditional questing/exploration because it requires too much attention span and time. The game is just an excuse to hang out with their internet friends on Discord. >>97583405>Nerdy white and spiritually white guys just wanted an avatar of themselves to lead the group and take Shadowheart to poundtownWhy does this surprised to anyone?
>>97583405That article is mislabelled.That's the default look. Meaning overwhelming majority of players didn't bother to check the options, just clicked forward.The joke is that they've put massive effort into hyping the character editior nad its options and people didn't use it, because there was already a default template. If they did the defautl setting to be "random", it wouldn't happen.Their mistake, I guess.
>>97583434What the other anon said. Just make sure you are sieving through the right pages, and he will be there.It's kind of how centaurichan got at certain point buttload (hehe) of money to just draw actual yuri rather than barely suggestive stuff and kinda changed audience since then.
>>97583672No it isn’t?
>>97579690Fruitcake faggot tranny artist.
>>97583839Yes it is.The gist of the story was that Larian build their marketing on three things, and to this day nobody knows why they made those their centerpieces:- the fact they brought back the guy who made the music for BG1 and 2- the fact you can fuck a bear- the extensive character editorWhich all turned to be the most bizarre and embarrassing marketing campaign ever, since:- they fired the guy and got some Slav in his place (but only after marketing the fact), giving them PR disaster- even furries were confused what the fuck is going on here- the editor was famously ignored, because in their utmost wisdom, they pre-set a default look for the character, rather than making it random/blankThis was just 3 years ago, so it's not something that happened before you were born.
>>97583839>>97583885And to follow up - the reason why so many articles were written about the vanilla twink was precisely due to all the fuss Larian made about the editor, only for people to not use it at fucking all
>>97579690LOL at the purple one
>>97583885>>97583900This only proves the point that nobody but queers wants freakshit in D&D. When left to their own devices, the fact majority of players will gravitate to traditional fantasy archetypes like, gasp, the male human fighter... which is exactly what happened to BG3 and Larian made fools of themselves for berating their players for not picking any of the freakshit character options. They are literally quoted saying, "what the hell guys. We gave your demon eyes, horns, and even tails. We are sorely disappointed."Congratulations, you've proven once again that the half-of-a-half percent of the population that experiences body dysmorphia wants to act out their oppression fantasy as a dragonborn or tiefling (except you're not allowed to oppress anyone in fiction anymore so instead we get to celebrate how noble and diverse the literal hellspawn and Bahamut's miscegenation are).Would that the people trying to force this shit into the games actually learn from the demonstrable player metrics and stop trying to make freakshit happen.
>>97584105>t. so clueless he doesn't even know how the editor worksAll it proved was that a lot of people don't give a fuck how their character looks. Those who did pick OTHER choice than the default "human fighter (male)" used the editor.Even if it was such minor stuff like "human ranger (male)"But I guess all of America is awake, so this thread can go back to the familiar sperging and over-reacting
>>97582323>maybe if I reply to the OP again I can crack the consensus and then it won't look like my position is massively unpopular
>>97584105What the other anon said already:Human fighter was picked the most, because it didn't require a single extra button press. Which is the same reason why >>97580864 also gives most picks on human fighter - it's the default preset, no extra clicks needed.And yet here you are, "winning" against things you imagined, making claims that aren't even tied with reality or the dataset right in front of you.
>>97579928WotC pays tribute to the troons in thanks for them living in their heads, warping their perception of reality to the point where their favored demographic is leftist theater kids, wokescolds, and identity-hustlers.
>>97584148I also pointed out that the Yanks are awake, so expect pic related for the next 12 hours
>>97583608>Why does this surprised to anyone?Because it often showcases the limits of most peoples' imaginations.
>>97584148>um it's just because they spammed through the menu and definitely not because they hate our bullshitBuddy you lost, get over it
>>97584187Consult pic related >>97584131
>>97584224Nah, don't shoot up a hockey game over it
>>97580864>If "Chinese people" were a raceThri-keen exist tho.
>>97584236Trade Federation too
>>97583405If you stop to think (something clearly don't do) about what is being said you would see that what they are "upset" about is that they put huge amount of work into character creator and people barely used it.
>>97584148>CRPG enthusiasts play the sequel to what is widely considered the most accurate adaptation of a pen-and-paper roleplay game ever released just to not engage with any of the character building mechanicsOr, and I know this is going to sound radical, they just want to play a fantastic version of themselves which just so happens to look like Generic White Guy because most CRPG enthusiasts are, in fact, Generic White Guys. I'm glad that you are such an enlightened progressive that you prefer to roleplay as a non-human genderqueer person of color, but for most of the rest of us we're here to kill orcs and get treasure and the most thought we put into our characters is how to justify re-using the same character sheet when you die. (Rob, brother of Bob the Human Male Fighter, has always worked for me. I'm fact, better if you just go on calling him Bob.)But, hey, I'm glad that your demisexual aasimar has vitiligo. It's clearly because you see the beauty in all things and don't judge on appearance, and not because you have a crush on Winnie Harlow like that Kotaku faggot. Good luck to you and your polycule!
>>97584149This is exactly what is so insane about the groomer internet toilet bowl. You have crazy unfireable hogs in corporate positions spending all night soaking up gender bender porn and nodding along with blue sky comments then going into work and saying "This is what people want every other concept art is rejected" and because it's hate speech to tell them to fuck off that bullshit gets pushed into official products constantly.
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>>97584278>I lost so I'm going to post a bait image and now I didn't lose
>>97579690Yes, OP, That's exactly what happened
>>97584278>Macroposting as copeI accept your concession.
>>97584105Sure if you don't use your brain and don't realize that it is very good chance a lot of those male human clerics (it was not fighter) had gay sex in their play through. Not that you have brain to not use in the first place as shown by your nogames faggotry that is your posts.
>>97584293>Actually everybody is gay and you cisgender heterosexual males are the abnormal onesBack to bluesky with you.
>>97584301Sorry to hear about your retardation stops you from being able to read posts.
>>97584087If memory serves that's not the only joke author squeezes out of the purple one.
>>97579690Oh hey I remember that character I also remember her and one of her friends getting railed by an Orc and a Drow
>>97584575you mean >>97583502 ?
I am going to be honest when playing I sometimes forget the races of what the others are playing, with the exception of the tiefling, who gets the full broadside of racism>which is hilarious because I play a drow and everyone loves my character
>>97579690Literally no one acts like this. The only time the "that's boring" point comes up is when someone says shit like "I'm a human so I always play a human"
>>97579690the mental gymnastics to come to that conclusion because people play nonhumans tells me you spend way too much time on 4chan and very little time interacting with people in real life
>>97584624On a meta level, theater kids act like this IRL; if you're straight and/or white and/or male, they treat you like a trash mon taking up space that could have been occupied by someone more oppressed. The straight white males they do hang out with are selected for being okay with being their punching bags and have to constantly self-efface and apologize while signalling ideological conformity.
>>97584680My theater kid friends are all neon nazis. Sorry that the ones you've met suck.
>>97584680I think people treat you like shit because you're an annoying faggot, not because you're white lmao
>>97584179No, they just happen to find your umpteenth tiefling with heterochromea and white hair boring. People like you always call people who don't make their characters look like they ERP on second life as a biker werewolf "unimaginative". It is the same conversation time and time again>I'll play as a human, I'll pick one of the three staple classes>I'll be an orc barbarian, I'm big loud and like fighting!>Imma dwarf! Loves me gold and digging!>i'll be an elf, we're cool, calm and ethereal! I'll be an archerAnd then you come in calling everyone boring becuase you want the story to somehow cater to your 2 foot tall kobold with alzheimer's and a hidden backstory where they forgot about being possessed by a demon lord on their 16th birthday because their estranged parents made a deal in return for riches
>>97584784That's a lot of projection and seethe to defend people who can't even see an apple in their head.
>>97579690>why do so many people not play humans and regular races in the one place where you can try out playing anything, when all other mass media spams only humans and elves everywhere
>>97584596No it was a different scene. It was only angela and one of woman and they were bent over a table.
>>97584864?
>>97584904Yeah thats the one
I don't think female adventurers need to be having premarital sex with greenskins
>>97584162Mehmet's law
>>97580958Like an actual bear/wolf/cat, or furries themed on those animals? I guess the "they're gay" kind of answers that, none of those animals are prone to deliberate homosexuality, unless it's specifically the warforged and the dragon, which is still weird.
>>97584105>>97584139>>97584149>>97584187>>97584268>>97584282>>97584288>>97584301>>97584680>>97584784
>>97579932t. nogamer
>>97585239>No, u!
>>97584680>I have a severe case of victim complexIf you are a white man and people somehow pick on you, chances are, you are a fucking cunt and deserve that.The fact you are white and obsessed with "muh oppression" meanwhile paints you as a life failure with nothing to his name but his skin color. Which makes you no different from a nigger.
>>97579690Isn't this artist a tranny?>>97579911>human fightersForgot the MALE there, libtard.
>>97585287Nope, just a regular guy who applied the good old truth "If your avatar is mildly attractive female, your business is going to be ten times more profitable".It's funny how catfishing and pseudo-catfishing went from regular grift to "REEE TRANNY!" screeching.
>>97585426>"I'm not a tranny, I just a self-insert as a woman!"So he's a closeted tranny, got it.
>>97585441Anon, it just seems like you desperately want them to be a tranny.
>>97584784nah
>>97585426You are expecting zoomers to be familiar with the pre-smartphone era internet.I suspect catfishing is going to make a great comeback in the next 2-3 years due to the advances of generative AI.
>>97579690>guy locked in a time chamber for 20 years
>>97585482Close, but no cigars: >>97582894
>>97585088>it's not happening>but I don't care that you dislike it>that's why I'm arguing all thread about it>And That's A Good Thing
>>97585062>Like an actual bear/wolf/cat, actual animals or furries themed on those animalsKemonomimi (so just the ears, horns, and tail, but little else). But I thought it was funnier to omit that fact.The bear and the dragon are gay. Not for each other, but only for NPCs.All the players are guys, but all of the PCs are anime girls, except for the catboy (who is ERP'ing with the wolf girl) and the human who is a faceless celibate knight (who I'm playing).It sounds like I should be annoyed by their weebery, but OoC my weeb power exceeds all of them combined, so I'm actually having a lot of fun.Despite the colorful cast of characters, I often end up being the one who has to act as the party face or vanguard and push the plot forward. So this bland faceless human has ended up becoming the de facto main character of the campaign.
>>97585507
>>97585454>n-no u!I accept your concession
>>97585555Those numbers don't lie, schizo anon played himself.
>>97585570I dont think you can "no u" to a third party. Now you just seem like a called out closeted fag.
>>97585287Yes, we can tell you forgot your brain at a gay bar.
>>97585507every single time manthis guy is like a walking example of every stereotype of reddit
>>97586396Reddit is full of normalfags that don't like freakshit though.
>>97586442Wow, that's very definitely a reddit screenshot, yes. You can tell because it looks nothing like reddit.
>>97585275Near hit but still a miss. I'm more affronted about the straight male stuff than the race stuff.
>>97579690Why do you care what races other people play in their home games?
>>97586442maybe you should try grooming an ice agent
>>97586965>tranny demons posted constantly on the official dnd account>um why do you care what xxeggcrackerxx@reddit.com does what he wants in his house
>>97579690>What the heck happened to D&D?They started catering to the "modern audience">Why is every party some kind of demon fruitcake now?That's what the "modern audience" wants.
>>97579690This is because social shaming isn't common enough. If a dude wanted to play a female character, for instance, normally you'd go "Ha, good one!" then "No really, what's your character?" which implicitly points out that a grown-ass man shouldn't be playing a woman or some weird-ass character. But for some reason we're suppose to coddle the mentally disabled and socially awkward.
>>97587237What an insecure little bitch you type like
>>97587386>you're an insecure little bitch for not letting me play a gay demon in your gameok groomer
>>97587398Honestly, I’m not one who gives any level investment into whatever gay character the other players bring to the table since it’s just a game. You’re the one apparently so afraid of catching the homo you have to police the other asthmatic neckbeards at the table you don’t play at. And that’s far more pathetic.
>>97587414didn't read troon
>>97587420I’m sorry you’re illiterate
>>97587426don't shoot up any hockey games about it
>>97587444Resorting to nonsequiters now, eh? Figures a no games lower would. Typical /tg/ trolls.
>>97587456>pretending not to understand
>>97579745Try over 2 decades. People wanting to play as monsters is something that was addressed in the fucking 2e players option shit.Funniest part of all is that we know that most common character types are still human, and generally the classic 3 core characters after that. These people must relentlessly lurk on Twitter and tumbler to try and find fan art to be angry about.
>>97587462>optional rules nobody liked from a while ago means gay demons belong in dungeons and dragons as core classes
>>97587476Like you’ve even played one game to even bellyache about this non-issue this hard
>>97581550yes, I just recently got into the hobby thanks to shadowdark
>>97587237Thanks for telling everyone you never played in your retarded and underage life.
>>97587591Playing a female character is really creepy behavior.
>>97587734Said the dumbass who never saw anyone play any character.
>>97579690I’ve played/DM’d for seven totally different D&D 5e parties over the last five years and not one time did a single person play a Tiefling. I’ve played with/DM’d for Gnomes, Halflings, Harrengon, Grung, Warforged, all manner of human/elf/dwarf/orc and their half-breeds, a were-raccoon, a Drow made of plant jelly, and whatever the turtle race is called, and still have yet to encounter a single person who wants to play a Tiefling. So you should probably get off the fucking internet and try playing games, they’re really fun
>>97579690I like her porn.
>>97586826Which part of "you are a fucking cunt" you didn't get the first time?
>>97587420>>97587444>>97587460You gotta love those loops. We only had it itt like ten fucking timesRemember when trolling was even remotely believable?
>>97587824Angela as witch apprentice porn is the best
>>97584680>>97586826The majority of TTRPG gamers are straight males, and then the next largest group are straight females. While it is possible you encountered a group of people who dislike you for that, it's more likely they hate you because you're an insanely annoying fuckhead, for which I point to this post already making me not want to game with you, as a fellow straight white male.
>>97587146>>tranny demons posted constantly on the official dnd accountMade up. You're going to try to argue it's not made up by posting one (1) image that was commissioned for charity and gets posted in Pride Month, and then when it's pointed out that this is the one (1) image you schizophrenics post as proof, not something posted "constantly", you're going to post the meme about leftists pretending not to understand things.
>>97587476Recommending how to run it if players want to play a dragon is literally in Men and Magic, you tourist culture warrior retard.
>>97579690she also draws porn btw
>no you dont get it, the option existing AT ALL means my games are worse even if I never feature it!
>>97588268>sheIt's drawn by a 40 yo neckbearder.
>>97588268Next thing you gonna call Chess a woman.Seriously, zoomers are so clueless with catfish marketing, it's not even funny.Alternatively, you gonna have a tranny meltdown, which is even funnier.
>>97588310>no it's not truuuuu i ain't no tranny dats not fackshully ACKurate!!!!>but respect my pronouns, chud!lol, every time
>>97588345>A straight white man by the name John Harris is called a woman>Point that out>REEEEEEEEEEEEE TRIGGERED MUCH?Nigga, seek help.
>y... you dont like [X]?>NOGAMES NOGAMES NOGAAAAAMEESSSSSS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA THERE NO WAY YOU PLAY GAMES IF YOU DISLIKE [X]Nintendo-fan levels of media whiteknighting. You guys sound like Pokemon fans defending GameFreak's latest bowel movement.
>>97588345>>97588415Oh look at the time, it's daytime in States already...
>>97588415The best part is that you don't even have to pretend to be a retard - you just are.
>>97588418>>97588423>Yes WotC-sama shit in my mouth as much and as often as possible
>>97579690It's D&D. You could've played a tiefling then, and nobody is forcing you to play a tiefling now. Literally nothing has changed but you are angry anyway.
>>97588345>>97588415>>97588425I always wonder what's the point of shit like this.Nobody's gonna take it seriously, obviously.Achieves nothing at all.Angers nobody.So what's the point? Dunno, do people genuinely farm (You)s or something?
>>97588425Have you tried not playing D&D? Though that would require you to join an actual game instead of just complaining on the internet about the strawmen living rent free in your brain.>>97588432To these people, negative attention is still attention because mommy and daddy didn’t care about them growing up. It’s mainly pathetic.
>>97588432Culture war shit, anon.These people do not perceive your hobby as a passtime, or a social activity, or an artform of any kind. They just see it as a castle to conquer, or rather, a castle to reclaim from their cultural opponents, a pie to stick their thumb in so the other people can't. That's all there is to it, sadly
>>97588442>>97588447But that still paints such posts as completely and utterly pointless, so really - why bother. Not even being terminally online works as justification for a fake chimp out.
>>97588484It sets the stage. The average moron can glance at the catalogue, look at OP and the postcount and think 'damn, people are really passionate about freakshit', which creates the idea that this nothingburger is actually a big deal that people in the hobby actually care about a lot
>>97587734You GMs roleplays multiple females during any campaign, has you warn him this so he can make a non-creepy setting exclusively populated by men?
>>97588560I guess that makes all GMs trannies and fruitcakes. It's the only logical conclusion.Which means RPG is gay, too.Damn libs, ruining the hobby with their propaganda!
>>97588310>>97588291shes a Canadian woman (biological) no?
My next character will be a tiefling, thanks /tg/.
>>97580811Sorry homie, I was there for the dawn of 4e, there was SOME interest in tieflings but as far as monster races went they were far from the top. The much greater demand was for Dragonborn.
>>97589001I don't think there's any confirmed woman (biological) webcomics artists besides Kaja Foglio (Girl Genius) and Trudy Cooper (Oglaf).
>>97583405Outdated article, tieflings were much more popular than any of the short races and humans were on the level with elves and half elves in BG3 popularity meters.
>>97589064>Scaly revisionism in action
>>97589080At least three quarters of gay webcomics is written by cis (bio/real/true) women.
>>97589080Witchy is made by a womanA pair of chicks is behind Namesake Stand Still. Stay Silent is made by a female forest troll, I guess that counts as a woman in FinlandI was also going to say Zebra Girl, but then I recalled it was made by a dude
>>97589081>Elves, half-elves and humans are top three and represent a combined forty million characters>Tieflings only a quarter of thatAnd how exactly does this disprove that the vast majority of players aren't interested in freakshit races?
>>97589212... by the fact there are more tiefling players than the five other races combined? And there is a fucking 2 mil drop to the next race?I mean I get that you are obtuse on purpose, but there is a difference between being obtuse and simply stupid.Like you swiftly ignored the fact elves and half elves are ahead of humans
>Why won't people play what I want them to play!>You big meanies! Playing the character you want!>Waaaaah!
>>97589212>13% of playerbase is interested in a thing>This isn't a lot, says random mathlet>That's because it's competing with blocks representing 16, 15.5 and 15.5%Every 8th character is a tiefling, you dumb moron.Which is twice as much as >>97580864 indicate, where it's 7.5%
>>97589080Sarah Anderson wrote the webcomic Fangs, which I thought was really wonderful and even bought the print copy of, once it was complete.
>>97589227Elves are just human with pointed ears and are explicitly presented as human+ in the D&D paradigm.I'm supposed to be impressed that nobody wants to play the manlet races? What exactly is your argument here? That Tieflings are more popular than their fellow freakshit fetish races BDSM femdom elves and explicit furbait bara dragonmen? "Durrhurr more popular than midgets." Okay, good for you I guess?
>>97589249Yeah it's pussy-ass snowflake bullshit, to complain about "freakshit." Other people are interested in, and do different things, than you. That doesn't make you a victim of anything.
>>97589267>Elves are just human with pointed ears>and are explicitly presented as human+ in the D&D paradigm.Nta, but ask me how I know you only know DnD from shitposting about it.
>>97589267>Continues to deliberately mistread the dataYeah, I guess this will totally prove me anything, faglord. Other than you don't really have to pretend that you are stupid, that is.
>>97589249Was your goal to embarrass yourself from the start?
>>97589212Damn, i guess the next BG should remove dwarves, gnomes and halflings since people care about those even less than 'freakshit races', huh?Is that what you want, anon? D&D without dorfs?
>>97589267>Elves are just human with pointed ears and are explicitly presented as human+ in the D&D paradigm.Jej...
>>97589265Not that big on romcom, but yeah, it does look neat.
>>97589212Maybe that part where they are the 4th most common pick and there is almost no disparity between them and the leading picks (itself very stable and similar)?You are basically arguing that a 4th most popular pick, with virtually the same picking rate as the top 3, is not popular, because... um... it isn't.Nigga, did you drop out from school early, or did they drop you when you were a toddler?
>>97589321I mean she's legal.
>>97589212>Being this fucking dense>Purposefully soWasn't it Lenin who said that if the facts don't match the theory, then too bad for facts?
>>97589265Shit man, I completely forgot this existed.I guess at least now I have a perfect present for a friend's birthday, now that it's printed.
>>97589339You tell me, troony, you're more knowledgeable on communist praxis than I am.
>>97589356>Getting even denserStop it, or at this rate you will turn into a black hole.On the flip side, it's like trying to insult a rock. Anything more subtle than calling you a fucking moron is just not registered as an insult to begin with.
>>97589321Fair enough. It's just wholesome gothshit, and I enjoy gothshit.>>97589349It makes a wonderful gift. The paper is thick matte cotton, the boards are covered with nicely textured cloth, dyed deep red w/ black debossed lettering and a pic of vamp in her dress.
>>97589339No, it was supposedly Einstein. And he didn't even say it.So you fell for a meme and then added a red scare twist to be extra wrong.In the future check before assuming bullshit you read online is real like some boomer on facebook.
>>97589305Why would I feel embarrassment, when I'm obviously superior to (You)
>>97588447It's even more retarded than that. These guys aren't fighting to purge actual D&D games of their so-called enemies (that battle was lost long ago), they're fighting to purge 4chan. Basically every board has a lame rotation of threads brainstormed by /pol/ as culture war flashpoints so that they can stealth evangelize nazi bullshit. The reason they focus on /tg/ is that their discord mods have identified it as a "sympathetic" board because people here like 40k. I doubt there's an active conspiracy, just nazi shitheads learning from other nazi shitheads.
I'm forever GM.If you spend the whole session crying about other players' choices of character, you can go find another table to play at.
>>97589432>Everyone that disagrees with me is a Nazi Sad!
>>97589432This is correct. Maybe, someday, we'll get our board back. I'd really like 4chan to be better than reddit. It used to be. Every voice got heard and there was no clout deciding what did and didn't get seen. Unfortunately, the loudest voices in the room have become these incel neo-nazis and it's just a product of that attitude of anonymous permissiveness that allows them to be so loud. Hopefully culture will swing away from this garbage-ass timeline, pretty soon.
>>97589432If it helps, people are really starting to get real sick of their tune lately. Nothing lasts forever, thankfully
>>97589461>the kamala vibe shift is crazy!Just because tradcath larpers are getting just as obnoxious as dyehaired neopuritans doesn't mean people want to go back to gay race communism
>>97588268Sauce?
>>97589454The easy solution now would be to better enforce existing rules so that culture war threads in general are contained on /pol/ where they belong. The reasons this doesn't happen are complex, sad, and not /tg/ relevant.>>97589461I may be wrong but I think people have always been sick of their tune. That's why control of discussion spaces matter to them, they need to manufacture consensus to cope with their various shortcomings. It's a powerful strategy but it can't work long-term.>>97589472>Just because tradcath larpers are getting just as obnoxious as dyehaired neopuritans doesn't mean people want to go back to gay race communismThis post is the tactic in a nutshell. If you think people should be allowed to play whatever they want in a goddamn roleplaying game, that's "gay race communism." This is classic nazi stuff - you're either with us or against us, no nuance, no room for individual choice.
>>97589515>I may be wrong but I think people have always been sick of their tuneNah, for a very long time a lot of people bought into the message because the other side was doing exactly the same thing. It was very easy to see SJWs and wokes as the invaders...because they were. It's just that people are only realizing now that the ones on the opposite side of the table are also not their friends
>>97588432In group indicators. They reinforce that they are 4chan newfags doing the things modern 4chan seems to expect from them.
>>97589515>you're either with us or against us, no nuance, no room for individual choice.Xhe says, calling everyone who disagrees with xir a nazi.>>97589542>It's just that people are only realizing now that the ones on the opposite side of the table are also not their friendsConfirmed for born past 2010. No one alive in the 90s or 00s have forgotten the likes of Jack Thompson or the Satanic Panic, it's just that your kind are so odious that even these obnoxious twats are tolerable for as long as you still exist.
>>97589515>I may be wrong but I think people have always been sick of their tune. That's why control of discussion spaces matter to them, they need to manufacture consensus to cope with their various shortcomings. It's a powerful strategy but it can't work long-term.They can keep talking to each other forever. That's why /news/ had to be taken out and we had a few years of boards being functional and attractive to new users. The goal is to just have stormfront again, using thematic boards as lure to a propaganda site.It's never gonna get better unless it's taken out by force.
>>97589583I really don't have to choose, anon. I want both of you out, simple as.
>>97589542>Nah, for a very long time a lot of people bought into the message because the other side was doing exactly the same thing. It was very easy to see SJWs and wokes as the invaders...because they were. It's just that people are only realizing now that the ones on the opposite side of the table are also not their friendsIf you say so. The only time I've seen SJWs engage in behavior anywhere near this disruptive is in screenshots posted by people who hate them. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, just that I know which problem we're dealing with right now.>>97589583>Xhe says, calling everyone who disagrees with xir a nazi.No, the people I'm talking about are literally nazis. As in, they call themselves nazis when they think it's safe to do so. Are you denying there are avowed national socialists on /pol/?>>97589588>They can keep talking to each other forever. That's why /news/ had to be taken out and we had a few years of boards being functional and attractive to new users. The goal is to just have stormfront again, using thematic boards as lure to a propaganda site.Correct.>It's never gonna get better unless it's taken out by force.Sadly also correct.
>>97589612Which is why you're simping for one side why pretending to sit on the fence.>>97589632>the people I'm talking about are literally nazisYeah yeah, that's what they all say.
>>97589632Holy cringe are you actually using a tripcode? Reddit coded behavior nglMy guy, nothing you have to say is so important that anyone needs to know who you are.
>>97589635The other side left this place long ago anon. They're still filling the books with their ugly diversity squads but they sure as hell don't bother with shitting up this place anymore, unlike you slimes. In fact, lately I only ever know about what the wokes are up to because you people keep bringing it up and making offtopic threads about it, almost as if you need to artificially keep the conversation alive
>>97589632>I know which problem we're dealing with right now.I feel like this was vague and in need of further clarification. The specific problem isn't even political extremism - even nazis just want to talk about games sometimes. The problem is when hobby spaces are treated as propaganda tools by political extremists to such a degree that it stifles discourse about the hobby itself. This was the big irony of Gamergate - none of those guys actually wanted to talk about video games at the end of the day, video games were just a proxy war for their other grievances. This would be a problem even if I totally agreed with the political agenda in question - even "more NEETbux for wargamers to keep pace with rising GW prices" would get annoying if there was no escape from it.
>>97589652Ironic, considering the tripfag you're currently 69ing with seems to think he's on a crusade against literal nazis right now.
>>97589652It really helps when you're trying to have a coherent multi-post conversation without faggots pretending to be you.
>>97587444don't disrespect an own of SS and totenpokf tattoos you fucking libtard commie
>>97589683>on a crusadeI made a couple posts pointing out what I think is a problem directly relevant to the thread. You guys just love to play fast and lose with words, huh?>against literal nazis right now.The people I'm talking are literal.nazis as far as I know. You're welcome to ask them:>>>/pol/
>>97589651go back to the epstein board, newfag
>>97589722>the epstein board/lgbt/? Epstein was a prominent proponent of child transgenderism, after all.
>>97589712>I said literal nazis are on /tg/ and I want to drive them out, how dare you assume that means I think literal nazis are on /tg/ and I want to drive them out?!God you types are ALWAYS like this.
>>97589674>big irony of Gamergatewere you 12?It was very obvious. People in /co/ were trying to push for comicsgate like crazy. It was super astroturfed, anyone with the minimum life experience to follow the news could tell "ethics in videogame journalism" is a retarded non issue. Barney's lil' Idpol, it's culture war but for kids!
>>97589741
>>97589741>>97589752lol they mad. Let's pretend for a second that these hypothetical people are not literal nazis from /pol/. It really doesn't matter what they believe. Spamming the board with made-up non-issues like "freakshit" to manufacture consensus against people you don't like still merits being driven out.
>>97589472>If you aren't one extreme, you must fall directly into opposite extremeThe shit every extremist believes in and wants you to believe, too. How else they would get new supporters otherwise?Meanwhile, Gaussian distribution says - go fuck yourself, you're a fringe of the population. Doesn't matter which side.
>It's daytime on both coasts of the US already
>>97589753Dunno, considering that same group of dangerhairs influencing vista game journalism a man killed, I’m sure not crying tears that their power grip was retarded even a little bit by angry game geeks.
>>97589752Mate, if you want to mock someone, at least make sure the end result is semi-coherent.
>>97589805>This is your brain on not touching grass for a decade
>>97589542The invaders are the retards who yell about the SJW/woke boogeyman. People who play don't get upset about stuff that outside their control such what is happening in groups they are not a part of.
>>97589741No, it is /pol/ but I guess it is easy to get those two boards confused as they are both full of faggots.
>>97589816It’s not wrong, but sure. Whine about your failed “freakshit” meme harder, I’m sure it’s far more worth everyone’s time to complain about this instead of playing actual games.
>>97589805what power grip?They write advertizements that look like reviews, just like cigar and car magazines. That was always the game. I understand that a 12 year old might be surprised that American Mercenary takes money to promote guns instead of doing a neutral and objective test, older than that you're probably retarded. Gamer Gate is 40% people trying to ride "women bad" into a right wing issue and 60% autists pissing their pants that videogames were an industry.It made me sincerely mad whenever someone said "ethics in journalism" referring to videogame promotional material. SJWs, nazis, aliens, whatever, when I saw the retards that though that was a valid talking point I had to take a break to relax.
>>97589947Are you even expecting a response to that diatribe or are you just here because Reddit suspended you?
>>97579690>Why is every party some kind of demon fruitcake now?Are they though?
>>97589787>literal nazis>>97589807Anyone railing about LITERAL NAZIS is already beyond sanity, anon.
>>97589892But I thought Mr. Triptroon said your kind vacated /tg/ years ago.
>>97589968No, but dnd art depicts some parties as having them, and that’s enough to go into a conniption about all of them
>>97589981D&D only offers vague differences between races so people treat it as character selection in a fighting game. That's it. There's nothing more ideological in picking a thiefling vs Blanca in Street Fighter.
>>97589979Maybe you should try having thoughts, nogames.
>>97589993You’re spot on, but that only makes a better argument for playing something besides dnd
>>97590019nogames only know about D&D, just like most people absolutely new to ttrpgs. They pretend their grief comes from inside the hobby but they don't even know what's it like to be in there.
>>97590070I have to wonder what the hell they gain from doing this all day rather than engaging in the hobby itself.
>>97590094their hobby is showing that they are part of the in group, ocassionally someone is convinced and they feel like they fished another one for their team. They don't give a fuck about ttrpgs, or comics, or anime; it's just the hunting ground for new memebers. If they cared they'd realize how shitty it is to have daily threads about the same issue over and over again, but if they don't even check to see how a board is doing. Even if everyone else stopped posting they'd still do the same act of being offended and agreeing with each other on the same topics over and over again for years.
>>97590015>>97590070>nogamesVery funny, seeing as I just finished a session. Not DnD, mind you, since the game was shit long before it got pozzed. But your random flinging of this insult with just shows how much of a tourist you really are.
>>97589993I think there's more choice in picking your main in a Fighting game than a race in D&D. Playing a rush-down like Blanka and getting good with him is more commitment than "I get a free spell"
>>97590193No one cares about how you just took it in your pozzed ass for a few hours, nogames tard
>>97579745FPBP.OP truly is a fag who couldn't make a 'small but solid' character to save his life.
>>97590221true, I was thinking of people who pick their main based on the cool design. It's more like picking in an beat 'em up where everyone has pretty much the same move set.
>>97590221Well in good games like Palladium races matter a lot more than in D&D where what color you want your gay demon to be is the primary choice you are making.
Fucking finally
>>97579690Because you didn't gatekeep your hobbies.Seriously, were you in a coma the past 10 yrs?
>>97590193Having a photoshot for gay audience of onlyfans is hardly a "session", faggot
>>97590773You can't gatekeep this hobby, you dumb nogames.
>>975900941) Time: killed2) Dopamine: gained3) Boogeymen: """"owned""""It's the simplest thingst. changed my military conscription for a year of forest ranger job all on my own in the middle of nowhere, so I kind of "get" the mindset
>>97589973>Anyone railing about LITERAL NAZIS is already beyond sanity, anon.So show us. Go to /pol/ and prove there are no nazis there.
>>97589635I will ask you directly then, are you not a nazi? Do you agree or disagree with White supremacy ideology? Feel free to answer, because this one is always the one thing you dance around.
>>97590985Alt-right is the biggest bunch of pussies imaginable>Racist, but won't admit it>Misogynistic, but won't admit it>Hate fags, colors, foreigners or whoever is the current designated target, but won't admit it>Or else they got cancelled.Say what you want about actual skinheads, but at least they mean what they say. Alt-right is entirely build in being too chickenshit to even stick to your own beliefs.
>>97590985>>97591033>delusional retard sees nazis everywhere because everyone who disagrees with his """objectively correct""" position that is a naziplease don't do any more mass shootings you lunatic
>>97590985>I will ask you directly then, are you not a nazi? Do you agree or disagree with White supremacy ideology? Feel free to answer, because this one is always the one thing you dance around.So for the record these three ideas add up to "literal nazi" for me:>white supremacy>minority scapegoat>seige narrativeWith these three pieces, you can justify literally any atrocity. Or, for the less ambitious among the nazis among us, spamming /tg/ with freakshit threads.>>97591033Yeah, the alt-right basically leans on "sneed" style bad faith arguments.
>>97591111>please don't do any more mass shootings you lunaticI'm a pacifist.
>>97591120>>97591121filtered go back predditor
>>97591111Is a yes or no answer, feel free to say it: do you agree with White Supremacy, y/n?
>>97591111>>97591121On top of this, let's count all the times you misrepresent me:>sees nazis everywhereNo, I see nazis in two specific places. Openly on /pol/ and people like you here on /tg/.>everyone who disagreesI specifically condemned a specific action. That was the whole point of this post >>97589787. Do you think spamming a hobby boards with politicized content is okay?>"""objectively correct"""You're trying to imply I'm arrogant for arguing in the same way...literally everyone on 4chan does? This one is a stretch even for you guys.>please don't do any more mass shootings you lunaticAnd this is the kicker - imply I'm violent when all I advocated for is a more enjoyable /tg/.See, folks, this is how you really spot nazis at work. Remember, just never let up on them and when they scream>SNEED!You know you've won. with his """objectively correct""" position that is a nazi
>>97591155Hey look it's pilpul in the wild, on /tg/!
>>97590985>are you not a nazi?Of course not, retard. I am not a member of the German Nazi Socialist party of the 1930s. The last public member of that group was publicly lauded by the Canadian prime minister if you'll recall.>Do you agree or disagree with White supremacy ideology?First you'll have to define what you consider that, seeing as you don't even have a real definition of nazism. You guys tend to define "white supremacy" as "I want my own nation to not import infinity somalians" rather than, you know, as a jingoistic genocidal ideology. But no, I'm not a race supremacist who wants to see other races genocided, unlike you.>>97591033Alt-right literally can't be literally nazis. Please use words correctly.
>>97591239Don't engage with pilpul.
>>97591111Nigger, you replied to a wrong post
>>97591251It's been pilpul and FUD all the way down since they first started whinging about DAY NOTSEES, yeah.
>>97591239I said alt-right are pussies. Unlike actual neo-nazis.Learn to read, fuckwit
>>97591255>cries about racism>uses racist slursLibtards are the biggest hypocrites around, I swear
>>97591238>>97591251>Can't answer a simple yes/no question>Has a full-on meltdown when pushed about itJej...
>>97591265I don't have any problems with racism.I hace a problem with limp-writed faggots who can't even admit their own beliefs.Just like you, wiggling around a simple question - are you for or against white supremacy?
>>97591265>Cries about libtards>While acting like oneAnd this is why alt-right is such a fucking joke. Being edgy for the sake of it, but when it comes to actual commitment, it's all "nah bro, just trolling".See yourself raped by spics in 20 years.
>>97591239>Of course not, retard. I am not a member of the German Nazi Socialist party of the 1930s. The last public member of that group was publicly lauded by the Canadian prime minister if you'll recall.Alas, words shift with time. Do you meet the defintion in >>97591120?>>97591239>First you'll have to define what you consider that, seeing as you don't even have a real definition of nazism.See above. I literally clarified my defintion.>You guys tend to define "white supremacy" as "I want my own nation to not import infinity somalians" rather than, you know, as a jingoistic genocidal ideologyBecause "not wanting to import infinity somalians" (in addition to being a mischaracterization) is part of a deliberately constructed pipeline into nazism. To make an analogy, I'm sure some people legit think the age of consent is too high but you can't blame us for being skeptical when someone advocates for that. Either way, what does any of this have to do with the question:>Stop spamming the board with freakshit threads as a way of scoring internet points against people you hate.Can you agree to that?
>>97591239>First you'll have to define what you consider that, seeing as you don't even have a real definition of nazism. You guys tend to define "white supremacy" as "I want my own nation to not import infinity somalians" rather than, you know, as a jingoistic genocidal ideology.Well, its very simple, do you think some groups are sub-human and if it was left to you would you eradicate them? That's usually a good indicator.
>>97579690Women/Thread
>>97587201So they made it gay deliberately
>Why isn't the world the way that my ignorant, 20-year-old ass pretends it was in the 80s?
>>97591774>you're too young>you're too old>you're anything that justifies me being mad you don't like gay demons>checkmate nazi!!!!!
>>97591781But I'm right.
>>97591781Maybe if you're encountering so many people on the internet calling you a nazi...the problem isn't with their arguments?
>>97591790>>97591816If you're winning why are you so desperate to cry in every thread about topics you don't like?
>>97591831"Anonymous" isn't my username, just fyi. I'm not suprised that you've got a persecution complex but, whoever you think I am? Nope.
>>97591839You just can't play a gay demon in normal people's games is all, cope
>>97591863That's been an option in baseline D&D since 1994.
>>97591877>every possible action is normal and validyikes is that why you guys have been doing so many mass shootings?
>>97591881Are you just trying to throw out random implications hoping I'll eventually get insulted by one? Are you a bot, by chance?It's a really weird opposite of having a point or conversation. You frustrated over there, a tad?
>>97591887lol seething
>>97591889This was a zany attempt to distract from pointing out that you're a neo-nazi. Glad you had fun.
>>97591712>t. retarded and underage nogames
>>97591896>it was real in my mind
>>97591774OP is probably younger than that.
>>97591896The absolute state of autogynephile discourse is actually "If you don't like purple skinned demons as a core race in Dungeons and Dragons you are a neo-nazi" at this point?Isn't that a bit 2020 of you? You lost and nobody agrees with you at all.
>>97591914>If I just claim it and insult people over and over, it'll become true eventually!That's not really how it works, anon.
>>97591927>You are not allowed to notice my behaviorOof, a little on the nose don't you think?
>>97591940Wait are you trying to pretend only 1 person in this thread is pointing out you're a neonazi? I counted at least 4 of us.
>>97591952kek all this seethe
>>97591961Halfway literate people can tell from the grammar, anon. Plus one of them was tripfagging.
>>97591964>With my tripcode on I'm two people trust mekekkkkkkkkkkkk
>>97591914No, we call you that because you are unable to go out and say "I don't have nazi ideology, like white supremacy and systemic removal of other groups I don't like."
>>97592020>we>youkek wrong on both parts
>>97592031Can you say it? Can you say "I don't sympathize with nazi ideology"?
>>97592038cope seethe dilate lmao
>>97591312>words shift with timeOkay so I guess you're a nazi now, since the word has now shifted to mean "anyone who uses a tripcode">Can you agree to that?I think freakshit spammers are tourist retards. Doesn't make you any less of a tourist retard too, tho.>>97591407>do you think some groups are sub-human and if it was left to you would you eradicate them?Can't read more than a single sentence of a post award.
>>97592020>(((german))) ideology>white supremacylmao
>>97592524>Okay so I guess you're a nazi now, since the word has now shifted to mean "anyone who uses a tripcode"Must be a weird subculture you got that definition from.>I think freakshit spammers are tourist retards. Doesn't make you any less of a tourist retard too, tho.There are two freakshit threads, at least, on the catalogue at all times. I have only ever posted in this one. I see where you're coming from but my retardation can't ever hope to measure up to culture war retardation.
>>97593381In the interest of clarity, let's directly sum up some important points.>Tieflings are not even close to the most popular race in vanilla D&D.>Tieflings have been part of the game since 2e, they are were not added to cater to any political agenda.>Playing tiefling does not mean you are gay, transgender, or subscribe to any political agenda. It means you wanted to play a tiefling. >There is no real-world movement to force players to play tieflings or to not play humans. Human remains the most popular race in the game.>At least one poster in this thread is deeply invested in you thinking the above points are not true.There, I feel better.
>>97593381>Must be a weird subculture you got that definition from.Says the guy whose definition of "nazi" comes from antisemitic communist communities calling for the eradication of israel>I see where you're coming from but my retardation can't ever hope to measure up to culture war retardation.Oh trust me, it can. Seeing as you're no less part of the culture war than those fags.
>>97592020Neo-nazis have no problem with saying such things.Alt-righters do, despite having exactly the same stances.Know the difference
>>97594266See kids? This is whataboutism and false equivalence. Both popular propaganda tactics.>Says the guy whose definition of "nazi" comes from antisemitic communist communities calling for the eradication of israelI never once mentioned communism or Isreal. Nice attempt at deflection. I only brought up nazis at all because the people I suspect are involved in this astroturf campaign literally call themselves nazis. That's not me trying to slander them, that's literally what they call themselves. Just because people you don't like throw the term "nazi" around too freely does not mean literal neo-nazis are not real. Speaking of which, do you believe the white race is superior to others by any chance? Just checking.>Oh trust me, it can. Seeing as you're no less part of the culture war than those fags.My entire argument from the beginning has been to move crypto-culture war threads to /pol/ where they belong. The whole tactic at work here to get people to stop talking about games and uncritical accept off-topic character assassination of "dangerhairs" that threaten some /pol/lack's fragile masculinity.
>>97594402>whataboutism and false equivalence.Ironic, since your whole ideology is based on stacking false equivalences in order to redefine words, i.e. the degradation of the term Nazi (Nazi => White Supremacist => Anyone slightly far right => anyone I politically disagree with => people who think tieflings are kinda lame)>I never once mentioned communism or IsrealYou said it yourself that words' meanings are derived from the subcultures one inhabits. If you are using the modern leftist's definition of "nazi", one must assume you are a modern leftist and thus want to genocide all of israel, as that's the modern leftist stance. If you don't like being hoisted by your own petard like this, maybe don't support the degradation of language for political gains.>My entire argument from the beginning has been to move crypto-culture war threads to /pol/ where they belongXhe says, while pushing the culture war and crying nazi at every post xhe disagrees with, thus furthering the culture war bullshit.What you REALLY want is for your side to "win" the culture war since it's currently losing miserably. I think you fags and the tradcath freakshit larpers are both obnoxious as fuck, but the tradcaths haven't burrowed themselves into every hobby I enjoy to rot them from within like an odious cancer that needs to be excised with a long knife. We all know what you are, your feigned middle ground stance doesn't fool anyone.
>>97594438>Ironic, since your whole ideology is based on stacking false equivalences in order to redefine words, i.e. the degradation of the term Nazi (Nazi => White Supremacist => Anyone slightly far right => anyone I politically disagree with => people who think tieflings are kinda lame)So what should I call people who call themselves nazis? Special cuddle friends? And if you observe above, the point of this thread was never "tieflings are kind of lame" it's the paranoid notion that there's some kind left-wing conspiracy to force people to play them and/or punish people for not playing them. This was proven both statistically and anecdotally untrue.>You said it yourself that words' meanings are derived from the subcultures one inhabits. If you are using the modern leftist's definition of "nazi", one must assume you are a modern leftist and thus want to genocide all of israel, as that's the modern leftist stance.You gotta chill out with the meth, man. >If you don't like being hoisted by your own petard like this, maybe don't support the degradation of language for political gains.Is this the best you can do? This is "ethics in games journalism" tier. Two threads on the catalog at all times dedicated to a problem that does not exist and is used as a political propaganda vehicle is a measurable harm. Let's focus on that.>Xhe says, while pushing the culture war and crying nazi at every post xhe disagrees with, thus furthering the culture war bullshit.You are doing the exact same thing you accuse me of doing in the accusation itself.>What you REALLY want is for your side to "win" the culture war since it's currently losing miserably.There is no "winning" the culture war.
>>97594470> I think you fags and the tradcath freakshit larpers are both obnoxious as fuck, but the tradcaths haven't burrowed themselves into every hobby I enjoy to rot them from within like an odious cancer that needs to be excised with a long knife.If you bring a knife to my game I am calling the cops. Holy shit, this is unhinged. This kind of bitterness and hate is more dangerous to D&D than any amount of gay demons.>We all know what you are, your feigned middle ground stance doesn't fool anyone.Good. I'm not trying to fool anyone.
>Nighttime in States>Thread goes dormant>Daytime in States>Faggots start fighting each other again, for the sake of shitposting>In a dead bait thread that's almost 100 posts pass the bump limit
>>97594497>In a dead bait thread that's almost 100 posts pass the bump limitAt least it will be over soon...
>>97594502To quote the probability die:"Highly unlikely".It's already going on in >>97593609, and there are 270 posts to go there.
>>97594470>>97594477>So what should I call people who call themselves nazis?Who in this thread has called themselves a nazi? Having another schizo episode?>You gotta chill out with the meth, man.Adhom. Can't even maintain the same standards you set for others. Typical.>This is "ethics in games journalism" tier.False equivalency.>You are doing the exact same thing you accuse me of doing in the accusation itself.Whataboutism.>There is no "winning" the culture war.Yet here you are, crusading against "nazis">If you bring a knife to my game I am calling the cops.Too retarded to understand metaphors award.>This kind of bitterness and hate is more dangerous to D&D than any amount of gay demons.Yeah, it leads to people shooting public speakers in the fucking neck and shoot up hockey games. Your kind need to be rounded up before they hurt anyone else.>I'm not trying to fool anyone."I'm honest and TRVE" says the snake-oil salesman.
>>97594539>It's already going on in >>97593609, and there are 270 posts to go there.Sweet christ. Well, I only have one thread of this crap in me. Speaking of which...>>97594545At this point, continuing this argument is waste of time because your bad faith is evident. You're blatantly ignoring my actual arguments and points to nitpick my posts for any sign of rhetorical weakness. The question is, why can't you have a conversation like a normal human being?I don't have direct evidence of this, of course, but it seems highly probable to me that you are are our astroturfer, and you can't let the last word in these threads undermine your control of the narrative.Since I like to think the best of everyone, I'll give you one last chance to engage with actual points I'm making:>Is "freakshit" a real problem in D&D? If so, how do you explain the evidence presented above?>Assuming freakshit is not a real problem, why do you think we have two or more threads about it all times?>If freakshit is not a real problem, and thus not relevant to actual D&D games, should we move this discussion somewhere else?I will gladly take any attempt to do anything other than answer these questions in good faith as a concession.
>>97594578>because your bad faith is evidentProjection.>You're blatantly ignoring my actual arguments and points to nitpick my posts for any sign of rhetorical weaknessAwww, don't like it when your own tactics are used against you?>why can't you have a conversation like a normal human being?Normal human beings don't accuse people of being nazis and call for their elimination, freak.>trying to get the last word in and running awayTypical.I also already answered your questions, read the thread you disingenuous mong. You are a sterling example of pic related.
>>97594593I sincerely hope you don't do this for free, Anon, it's not worth it.
>>97594608And back to the bad faith insinuations. Typical.
>>97594667You just posted another culture war thread. Since no one is reading this one, can you tell me who you really are? Is my neo-nazi theory correct? Are you a foreign agent paid to undermine glorious America? Or just a chud with literally no life?
>>97594679I didn't post shit, you windmill-tilting schizo. I hardly make threads at all, much less about d+d, much LESS about cringey d+d culture war faggotry.But hey, keep on hunting down those evil ding darned /tg/ nazis who are also all apparently one person, freak.
>>97594684Don't be that way, I'd love a look behind the curtain. I assume you organize in some kind of discord? Is there like one guy assigned to each board or what? Freakshit is a really old meme, have you considered updating your playbook?
>>97594795Do you really think this helps you look less unhinged? You're only proving my point about your true aims for posting on this board, tourist.
>>97594795>goes directly to Discord agents provocateurThe best part of engaging with leftists is that they will tell you exactly what they're doing by accusing you of doing the same. In this way, we can safely surmise that Rude Dismissive Guy !!axEXmjexO7B is a Discord tranny whose sole purpose on this board is to sow division. Consequently, his posts and opinions may be safely dismissed as disingenuous noise and given no further consideration.The mo' you kno'!
