Forbidden Edition Edition>Community Links:https://www.warhammer-community.com/https://www.unitcrunch.comhttps://www.newrecruit.euhttps://wahapedia.ru>3rd Party Models Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh>Pre 10th Torrent:Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5>10th Edition Rules:https://gofile<dot>io/d/9LvQTLhttps://mega<dot>nz/folder/Em0Rmb7I#4GR-B7y4cu5nCB5QziXM4A>How to make wargames terrain:https://gofile.io/d/s99zDV>Previous Thread:>>97585576>Thread Question:What old design or unit would you bring back as a new unit?
>>97588918dickbeak warriors
Saw pic related and it got my noggin’ jogging’ a bit.I’m not sure if pic related is a genuine source or mistaken as official gw like the Sisters of Purification pages from GDW.>butWhat if geedubs gives the sisters of battle all the firstborn marine vehicles and stuff like the dreadnought to them with the “option” to have them not have any sororitas plastic symbols as a subtle way of giving firstborn vehicles and such a new home.>inb4 chaos space marinesI think their sculpts are mandated to have chaos iconography baked into their models so I’m not sure if that would work.Basically some lore shit about firstborn vehicles being reinstated for sororitas usage and Cawl pulls something out of his gaping ass to justify how dreadnoughts work with sisters and other things like that.Think it might work out for those who still prefer firstborn getting to use the models from the heresy line and make gw a big load of money too?
This is almost a shitpost.
trazyn model SOON!also if infinite and the divine was so successful why don't they try doing a sequel?
Who's your favorite 40k CC?
>>97588915They might not be but the Krieg heavy stubbers just reminded me of the heavy weapons base size change.How do kriegers play for the last few months of this edition versus cadians?What am I giving up if I play Krieg vs cadian?
>>97588947I dont watch sloptubers
>>97588934>model the turret pointing backwards>have the guns point forwardsThe gunner can remote operate the guns no matter which way he's facing.
I get that they wanted to copy the legion squads for primaris but why did they do such a terrible job at it? Where are the 20 man tactical squads? Where are 10 man heavy support squads? Where are the super customizable veterans? The 10 man retinues (bladeguard are boring as hell)? The superhevies? The drop pod assaults? The wide variety of legion officers? The sergeant upgrades that actually matter?
>>97588947I prefer to listen to background music.Stuff like vidya osts and just music most of the time with no human vocals though there are exceptions.So what music do you lads recommend me listen to when painting models?Any hour long music compilation videos as well?
>>97588947I just put an old show like StarGate SG1 or Babylon 5 as background noise.
>>97588947The thumbnail faces make me wish for Armageddon
>>97588963I usually listen to some chill stuff like ambient or lofi. Helps me focus and relax, painting almost feels like meditation with this stuff in the background
>>97588960They didn't want to copy legions, that's just marketing speech for "we want to dumb down stuff".
How hard would it be to shave off the iron sights for boltguns with the scope that the iron sight blocks?I’m always booty blasted seeing the scope’s view blocked by the boltgun’s iron sight.There should be some retcon about how when the scope is applied the iron sight lowers into the gun to fix this.
anyone got the custom character rules from maelstrom?the google drive link broke
>>97589027Which ones you want? I have a few of the individual factions saved
Can’t wait for my Corsair box. They’ve been my primary kill team for a while now, it’ll be nice for them to have a proper army. Anyways in the meantime post models
>>97589023Is that a serious question? Have you never built a model before?
>>97589039Why don’t you just answer his question without being a total puke.
>>97588947>sloptubers
>>97589039Yea it is a serious question.>have you ever built a model before?Does gunpla count? It was a snap fit model so I’m not sure it counts.
>>97589046Shut up, decalpedo
>>97589062Stop being nasty to people asking normal hobby/modeling question you unscrupulous cur
>>97588934>nothing wrong with me>nothing wrong with me>nothing wrong with me
>>97589023It's a thermal scope and the front sight post is made of germanium. Alternatively, just offset the scope like on some bolt rifles.
>>97589069Kill yourself, gaywad.
>>97589056Just by looking at it you can clearly just cut/sand it off. Go for it.
>>97589034I genuinely love Nurgle and Plague Marines, but seeing all the Thousand Sons here is genuinely making me interested in them.
>>97589071>it’s a thermal scopeThat makes it more tolerable.Thanks.Still not as bad looking as the mechanicus stilt model.
>>97589083I’ll flip a coin on it and see what I get.If the coin lands on the side I will flip again.Doing these kinds of “edits” to 28/32mm models isn’t as difficult as it looks most of the time?
>>97589023the iron sight is only that thick because it's a 28mm model where the proportions get altered for the same of making it a practical miniature sm2 solves that by making the iron sight empty
>>97588997Intercessors are 100% legion tacticals and despoilers. The weapon squads are 100% trying and failing spectacularly at being support squads. Phobos is trying to be recon squads and doing a miserable job because they don't understand the point of recon squads. Gravis tries to be breacher squads and misses the point too. Every time they try to do it they miss why the legion squads work and they just make a squad that's not very interesting and more often than not redundant.
>>97589093At least they’re right side up
>>97589103That’s actually a much better solution.Maybe some bullshit about the top of the ironsight aligns with the scope visuals helps too.I wonder if that was a creative liberty or if it had to have gw’s approval.
>>97589113>Intercessors are 100% legion tacticalsIntercessors have no bayonets or chainswords. Had multiple weapon options while tacticals did not.>despoilers.Assault intercessors don't get power weapon or pistol options, heavy chainswords, etc.
>>97589121What’s the story of that model and did some poor sap get fired for that oversight?
>>97589103In the 3e rulebook storm bolter the block has a small front post on top of it.
>>97589121>i-it's a red dot sight that's the laser pointer thing right?
>>97589136>2018fuck me I suddenly feel old
>>97589033tyranids, SoB and CSM
>>97589121Isn't that a connector for a bayonet?
>>97589129Anon that's the point. They tried to remake the legion squads and failed because they didn't add all the things thay make the legion squads cool. So they just took the 40k squads and removed stuff but they gave nothing in return.
>>97588934God it really does look so much better
>>97589103I preferred the boltgun sounds from sm1 except the heavy bolter from that game.But why Titus didn’t keep his silver deathwatch arm armor eludes me.Probably an oversight.Maybe because his model with the fur pelt would have made him look too similar to the black lion of Ultramar oc.
>>97588947>BeghastDon't think he can be considered a 40k CC but he has a fun Space Marine series>Departmento Loretorum>The Pontius>Luetin09Fun lore channels, but Pontius needs to get his tism under control and Luetin recently has been very boring.>Revenn's HandiCraftsMade really good vids at the start of the channel but recently the videos have been quite stale>Heresy EraConvinced me to collect HH stuff
>>97589146Oh, well ok, my bad.>>97589136
>>97588929Hell yeah, dick beaks!
>>97589085>all the Thousand Sonsisn't that anon the only ts poster left
>>97589135A what?
>>97589033You got Death Guard?
>>97589113You're completely missing how primaris units are conceivedjes goodwin sat down one day and designed the new basic space marine armour then the next day he sat down again and drew a pair of variants, one slimmed down, one bulked upthen the next day he did a dozen small differences between plate placements and helmetsand at the end of the week, as a treat, he did what he likes best and filled a page with weapon schematics everything that happened beyond that is just how other people combined the pieces to be able to sell a number of new marines kits every quarter
>>97589121>>97589136I think that mistake is what began the end of forge world.>>97589144I’m feeling it too.
>>97589159I guess you’re right, there’s a few in WIP, but there’s a guy here in a spite war with a certain retard who says he’ll be putting dead SW on his TS bases.
I liked it better when Broadsides were Crisis modified to carry big guns. Broadsides should be able to fly and follow Crisis suits, otherwise what's the point? Especially when the Tau equivalent of the Russ DOES actuall fly!
>>97589162That one I do have
>>97589166That's true for the visuals. The actual squads are designed like shit.
>>97589175I don't think the broadsides could ever fly
>>97589177
>>97589177>Nurgle dubsExcellent, thanks anon.
>>97588934>almost a shitpostIt's literally a shitpost, they just believe in it unironically
>>97589023Co-witnessing sights are a thing.>>97589102>Doing these kinds of “edits” to 28/32mm models isn’t as difficult as it looks most of the time?What do you do when building gunpla? Well, one thing you need to do is to remove nubs.What's the front sight post? Basically just a fucking nub.>>97589113Ah yes, the autstic need to make everythign fit into a very small set of pidgeonholes.
>Ahriman>Fabius>Kharn>Lucius>TyphusHow have these guys stayed on the grind for 10000 years and not been promoted to daemon princes yet?
>>97589175Did you ever actually use that model? Heavy as fuck, extremely prone to snapping at the ankle
>>97589199Only because child you did not learn how to pin
>>97589197The ruinous powers care little about our concept of time.
Painting faces is hard man.Post models/WIPS/whatever
>>97589196>What do you do when building gunpla?>Well, one thing you need to do is to remove nubs.>What's the front sight post? >Basically just a fucking nub.I never would have thought of it that way.I feel foolish.Thanks anon.
>>97589197Typhus specifically refuses daemonhood so he can spread plagues throughout realspace at all times, rather than needing to rely on being summoned or banished for a thousand years. The others I don’t know.
>>97589023>iron sight blocks scopeIt doesn't, that's not how focus works
>>97589196It's not about making it fit, it's about how interesting those units are. Legion tacticals removed the special weapons and doubled the unit size in exchange. Intercessors removed those weapons and added nothing so the unit is just a boring version of both 30k and 40k tacticals. Gravis trying to fill the niche of both breachers and terminators and achieving neither so you end up with a unit with no purpose and no flavour. Phobos splitting recon squads into a dozen different units that all have some kind of bolter instead of the shotguns and snipers the legion recon squad has.
>>97589085Thousand sons are a fun project for smaller armies I think. Sorcerers are a blast, so customizable so many good details on them. I even enjoy painting the tzaangors to an extent, but the rubrics become a real drain real fast, and if your fielding more than 20, you’ll feel definitely feel the fatigue
>>97589197powerscaling inflation happened after their introductionthey weren't made as the ultimate ever champions of their gods, just exemplary chaos marine special characters once they got wanked too much gw made some cope about how reaching demonhood is acktchkually a form of defeat because it means you've finished your path to glory and the gods have tired playing with younow, the longer you stay in their graces without turning into a demon or a spawn the more favoured by the gods you are, because it shows you've been able to continuously entertain them and keep having room to growbasically any champion that reaches demonhood is not necessarily a better champion than them, they're just the equivalent of a game with less replayability and easier to platinumalso something about how stronger champions prefer staying on the grind instead of abandoning themselves to demonhood because that way they keep agency or are less reliable on fickle warp rifts to be around
>>97589184I'm not saying they flew. I'm saying I wish they could, and it'd make sense for them to at least be able to deepstrike together.
>>97589251Their whole concept was trading mobility for heavier firepower
>>97589209Latest completed models
>40k Open event dates are announced>The Birmingham one is Ork themed
>>97589209>Painting faces is hard manI chickened out and only did half of a face.
>>97589161
>>97589262Some mobility, not all mobility
>>97589262Aerial drop via grav-chutes.
Where do people go to have fun?
>>97589219Typhus' ultimate goal is daemonhood, bro. He said so himself.It's Nurgle that hasn't elevated him yet.
>>97589334>all this time he's been the Frank Grimes of Spiky MarinesWoah...
>>97589197Tzeentch isn't interested in making him a daemon prince. When Tzeentch is done with him, he plans to do him a mercy that was not shown to any servant of Tzeentch in the cosmos to reward him for his great service.Tzeentch intends to set Ahriman free. By free Tzeentch means erasing Ahriman from existence, body, mind, and soul. This way, Ahriman will no longer be a slave to fate.>FabiusOn his way to godhood.>KharnDoesn't care for daemonhood. Won't refuse if it is offered.>LuciusSame.>TyphusWants daemonhood. Nurgle hasn't offered it yet.
>>97589345uh?
>>97589023Noguns and nomodels question at the same time, very impressive.
>>97589346>Tzeentch intends to set Ahriman free.That's an old plot point from French's novels. They already moved past it.
Summary of Kill Team: Shadowhunt (Sister witch hunters vs Night Lords raptors and Warp Talons):https://pastes.io/shadowhuntNight Lords win. Finally?
>>97589251It would need to be a tradeoffhave the ability to deepstrike replace all of these and it's fairalternatively I'd say another tradeoff would be allow a crisis suit to use broadside arms but without the better armour, without any other piece of equipment attached to the crisis, and only one per squad
>>97589355Where? When? Tzeentch forestalled the reward; he didn't take it back.
>>97589358>instant loss sisters
Haven't read the book, won't ever read the book, but I like Kevin Chin's cover illustration. It's nice.
>40k trying to scrub the Ynnari outta the settingWas it really that bad? Also, what the fuck, why is the Ynnead model an online exclusive?
>>97589374looks like shit ngl
>>97588933this dred is converted
>>97589374Why is the Word Bearers in so many books, games, etc, but they still refuse to make models of them? Not even in Kill Team? The fact Iron Warriors are more likely to get its own Codex makes me laugh.
>>97589388GW(especially ADB) don't like Chaos undecided
>>97588934So how the pilot gonna shoot the gun?
>>97589398If thats the case, Black Legion wouldn't be receiving shit 24/7.
>>97589384>VDR rules>parts list from other kitsYou don't say...?
>>97589197Tzeentch resents Ahriman so that's a noKharn is fine as isLucius is close enoughTyphus is a loser so noBile is probably resented as much as Ahriman
>>97589436>Tzeentch resents AhrimanQrd? I don't know much about the lore
>-In the Vedik system in the Chalnath Expanse, the Soulrippers Murder Wing found amusement in hunting down and slaughtering T'au Ethereals, spreading fear into the invading T'au forces as their vaunted spiritual leaders were brutally murdered.But why though?
>>97589451funi
>Out of all the things assembled with this life size 3D printed Horus, his Worldbreaker mace was the worst by far. In total it was 133 pieces, which isn’t too bad. But the mace has 6 identical sides with all the pieces being sliced fairly the same, but different. It was a nightmare to assemble and I messed up a lot. Weight wise, it’s 41lbs and hollow.
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>97589027You’re telling me I can be Ronnie’s pal? Gemme in the crisis suit and fuck the pretendo psykers
>>97589483How much of her would his cock fill up?
:3
>>97589483horus wasn't that tall
>>97589513Primarchs have cloaca.
>>97589517I’m putting it in the jar and I’m going to melt it down with my own home made acidic milk.
>primach/marine size faggotrytotal marinefag death
Calling it done on Aeternum Vigilis here, my second Questoris Knight and my entry for this month's Big Guns collab.
>>97589530Inquisitor Sabbathiel dwarfs them and it's not close.
>>97589538Hella nice Knight brother, even though you’re a total sack of dog shit.
>>97589538Butte shot
>>97589483>contemptor dreadnought sized>"life size"What is this, a primarch for ants?
>>97589545nta but kill yourself you fucking clown
>>97589538is pulling on a knight's crotch flap painful for the pilot?
>>97589547Currently he's providing covering fire for a squad of Subductors and their field medic as they try to get closer to the front line.
>>97589540big woman big pussi
>>97589451Just a social experiment
>>97589554I got a magnetization kit for him too so I'm free to field him with all the different gun options and Knight variants that I choose. It even had an extra head so I can go full Canis Rex if I want to (Still need to paint the pilot fig though)>>97589553I angled it a bit higher up mostly to make it easier to see the soldiers on the ground. It's a bit silly but it also felt wrong leaving it off after painting it.
>>97589562the melta pose is nice
>>97589033Did they give the dark eldar any of these new custom character rules? Specifically, what about the haemonculi?
Besides Maugen Ra, what other Phoenix Lord has yet to die? And speaking of Phoenix Lords, why is Jain Zar a punching bag in the books?
>>97588934...why?
>>97589562Lovely knights, anon.
>>97588934Neat
And here he is with the previous Knight. I'm pretty damn please with how this came out. I actually finished the first one back in March of last year so it's kinda nice to visually see some solid growth in the last year. Self-improvement is always important in this hobby.I'm going to submit it as a Knight Crusader since that's got the most guns on it, so I might take a better more in-focus photo later, but I just wanted to get these out here. How is everyone else progressing with their collage builds?
>>97589374>Bunch of gibberishUh, i thought this setting had FLUFF?
>>97589046Cease, mutant.
>>97589562based mushroom vampires
>>97589555Heresybut would
>>97589590She is the most active and written about. So more exposure = more danger.
>>97589604All Knightfags deserve the rope
>>97589388There were rumours of Lorgar and the WB coming back but Iron Warriors releasing seems to have disproven that.
>>97588977>StarGate SG1 or Babylon 5Based
>>97589145Got you CSM
>>97589197All of them except Bile are basically DP at this point in terms of power, gifts and favour. Hell, Kharn's been brought back a few times by Khorne.
>>97589604I don't know what to tell you anon. While those look nice, they look almost identical.
>>97589145CSM 2
>>97589219That's cool, headcanon or offical? If so, source? Fuck, I sound like a (P)redditor.
>>97589604they're both very nice but I don't really see any clear improvements between them, honestly
>>97589634I swear I remember reading it in an old Codex, but according to >>97589334 I have it wrong. Idk if I’m misremembering or if they retconned his attitude.
>>97589630They've all been dead at some point or other, he's not special.
>>97589617Hey don't lump all us Knightfags together just because there's one bad actor in these threads.>>97589631>>97589643Ehh fair enough. The only major thing I did differently for the newer Knight was an oil wash on the metallics, while the first one I just used Nuln Oil. I guess it's better that they don't look too different so they look consistent on the tabletop?
>>97589197Is there anything left of Typhus to elevate? Isn’t he essentially a sentient swarm of bugs in the form of the destroyer hive?
>>97589654Personally I'm not blind and can see way more highlighting and finer details on one of them.
Why do Imperial Knights get Canis Rex but Chaos Knights don't get a counterpart (provisionally named Stannis Flex)?
>>97589447Ahriman deprived Tzeentch of the whole Thousand Sons legion with the rubric, they might still serve Tzeentch tangentially but they're not mortals thst can provide it with power
>>97589359If they had M6" relentless Jump, where Crisis had M6"(+6") Jet Pack, that would've been enough. But yeah same Crisis armour would be fine, to save on weight.I suppose you could have the +1T 2+ save version as well and pick your fancy, not unlike how Assault Marines and Assault Marines on jump packs are different units with different abilities
>>975895891/2
>>97589675>Ahriman deprived Tzeentch of the whole Thousand Sons legion with the rubricThe sabotage of the Rubric was orchestrated by Kairos Fateweaver.
>>97589589>>975896862/2Winged Haemonculus leading and regenerating permanently empowered Scourges is cute.
>>97588934>shadman
>>97589675oh right, that makes sense
>>97589690We know, anon. He's just making shit up.
>>97589209Reposting last night's game.Forgot to actually talk about the votann detachment. It's quite good, though I do wonder if the detachment rule is a little redundant, at least from my one experience with it.You don't get defensive stratagems, so you're really relying on getting yourself into fortify takeover ASAP (which you're doing anyway, but that's a problem with the army rule itself). The issue I had was that by my turn 2 I already had 7YP and was able to just switch over anyway. I basically never used the detachment rule as intended. This might have just been because I knew to play aggressively with trash units onto objectives and went second, but I think the issue is still there. I'd have to play more games to discuss further.The stratagems are good. Again, no real defensive stuff so you're gonna be playing aggressively most of the time. The rerolls in shooting and fighting are both extremely useful for the cost, and it's always nice to half fall back+shoot+charge. The others didn't come up in my game and honestly don't seem all that great.Gaining YP with the kahl's enhancement is okay. Good for if you need more throwaway YP for whatever reason (which you don't really, I never went below 4 even when using as many as I could). The memnyr enhancement is useless. If you play averagely with a memnyr in your list it's almost impossible to not get 3YP in a turn, barring turn 1 if you go second.The enhancement to get rerolling 1s to hit and spending YP to get sustained 1 is really good. Always worth putting it with whatever brick of dudes you want to be killing shit, especially since it's both ranged and melee.Overall good. I'd say more fun than the new index detachment and most of the codex detachments (which I always thought were too hyper focused for a faction with such a small range).
Should I sell my Death Guard now or should I wait and see if 11th makes the game more enjoyable? I really really don’t like how 10th plays.
>>97589693Awooga. So technically you could have an Overlord ride with jetbikes. Neat. At last this frees him from being forced to only ever ride on Venoms (walking is so pedestrian)
>>97589615You didn't answer the first question though
>>97589604My boys would figuratively bend these frauds over and buck break them.
>>97589732repulsive
>>97589740You’re mothers not around anon
>>97589720>I really really don’t like how 10th plays.Why not? What would be required of 11th to satisfy you?
>>97589732>vomitingwhitepowerfrog.webp
>>97589725Nope, you can't take more than one Specialism at a time so you can't give an Overlord Bikes, Skyboard, or Wings.Don't ask me why Drukhari don't just have an Overlord archetype and only have 2 character options when literally every other faction has three.
>>97589747>YourMy bad yo
>>97589690Doesn't fateweaver hate Tzeentch?
So if all the primarks are supposed to have a loyalist and traitor counterpart is it supposed to go like this >Corvus and Kurze>Sanguinius and Horus>Guilliman and Logar>Leman Russ and Magnus>Rogal Dorn and Perturabo>Ferrus and Fulgrim>Vulkan and Angron>Lion and Alpharius>Kahn and Mortarion >the two delisted Primarchs
>>97589750I prefer pre 8th. I quit 40k in 7th and current 40k simply doesn’t play like 40k for me. The boards are too small, everything is too lethal, the armies are too big for the space. It feels like a video game rather than a wargame. Also here’s proof, not all but most of my 2k list. I have another probably 2k in boxes unassembled. I have like 10 guys painted (I lost motivation to paint the DG after playing a bunch of 40k games and realizing the game itself isn’t that fun).Basically my idea is, I know DG are very strong now, and since most my shit is unpainted but built or NOS, I can sell it easily to WAACfags. Or do I wait for 11th and maybe I’ll enjoy that version of the game. I hate stratagems as a concept for example.
>>97589519he was taller, he was almost eye to eye with the emperor at the height of the heresy
>>97589732I have been making these posts and replying to them. If I had to estimate I make up 43% of all posts of /40kg/.
>>97589763vulkan and angron have nothing to do with each other, and neither do the lion and alphariusso, no, there's no pairings for many of them
>>97589750>>97589775Also I hate how many rerolls 40k has nowadays. It feels like everything is done for comp fags. Rerolls are important to them to remove any mathematical variance inherent to rice rolls. At that point, why even play a dice game?
>>97589780the emperor wasn't that tall eitherthe height of the heresy too is overestimated
>>97589755I think I mistook the word Archon and wrote Overlord instead.The (Succubus/Archon) picks an Archetype (Archtormentor), then a Specialism (Skyboard).Yeah idk what other archetype DE could've gotten - one gets extra when spending a token, the other generates extra token. Idk what else there can be. "Always empowered without needing token"? That's already [03 Ability - Conduit of Cruelty]
>some of the best DG lore as far as vectoriums (vectoria?) go>weird ass green on green schemeWhy?
>>97589790>lion and alphariusFirst son and the lastTwo people who are extremally secretive >vulkan and angron Are polar polar opposites
>>97589763is there a break down of what archetype each of the rivalries is?>Corvus and Kurzebeing stealthy>Sanguinius and Horusdying>Guilliman and Logarwriting books>Rogal Dorn and Perturabobuilding shit>Lion and Alphariusbeing gayi wonder what the 2 unnamed Primarchs were.
>>97589795>At that point, why even play a dice game?It really is a real strategy game but with physical models instead of digital ones
>>97589799shut the fuck up retard
>>97589763>Leman Russ He’s kind of a Rival to many Primarchs because their egos hate how much they fear him. The Emperors executioner is not to be trifled with.
>>97589799(You)
>>97589775I actually agree with the shrimplification, but i'm sad about the Legends stuff. People liked those models and they're sometimes just not viable at all.Though every different loadout option now being its own separate datasheet (w/rerolls on specific conditions) is indeed tiresome
>>97589815That's what it feels like. And I also have a feeling that 11th won't make it better because look how popular 10th is. But it's vidya slop that's not for me. So it's probably best to sell the DG imo. Should be easier to sell them now than early 11th when who knows how good they will be.
I find it funny that Biel Tan is supposed to be the most bloodthirsty craftworld but their symbol is a heart.
>>97589809they ran out of schemes, nobody cares if you're using a different one
>>97589836Fair, I mean clearly there is an audience for this video game simple type of game. It just doesn't feel or play like a wargame imo. I play two other TT wargames and I basically havent played 40k in months because the first 15 or so games I played to try and have it " click " for me were miserable affairs.
>>97589846I wonder how it looks on a real model, honestly.
>>97589809I like it, but Death Guard are poo.
>>97589845That's where the blood is bro <3û (it's a heart and a blood drop)
>>97589806You know there are more than two character Archetypes. They don't all have to relate to the army ability. Some factions have eight or even 10 characters without redundant abilities. DE just has very few generic characters to begin with.
>>97589381Someone answer this question of mine?
>>97589814>Lion and AlphariusThat is the one I can not figure out and it's mostly because it's them being left over. My guess is that it's two autist who are way too into keep secrets
>>97589823he's a gay furfag that had his shit handed to him by everyone he ever faced but nice try
>>97589878Nobody cares about the ynnari. Their rules were only interesting for about three minutes, now they're just eldar soup. Their fluff has been bland too, they got two books which weren't good and never got a proper model line so they're just background. They're basically just an Eldar death cult. Yvraine and the Visarch are better conversion fodder than proper characters.
>>97589889Cute head cannon you lorelet scum bucket
>>97589924I like how you throw around buzzwords you picked up around here without even understanding them lmao
>>97589927remember the 16 months he spent calling everything peers without knowing what that meant lmao
>>97589927>>97589928Both words were appropriately used and you’re both ugly.
>>97589763Sanguinius and Kurze are counterparts because they both had foresight. One accepted their fate with grace, the other went insane over it.
>>97589604I’m gonna probably do a Knight for the collage also. I have an abominant and a tyrant and a ton of magnets. I haven’t decided on a scheme yet, I wanna do black on the tyrant but I don’t want it to be flat. Also I am scared to try weathering effects. Pic is what I want my tyrant to look like.
>>97589949Haven’t decided on a scheme yet for the abominant/rampager chassis
>>97589949I wish they'd make a knight kill team of operatives who go and recover pilots from downed knights.
>>97589381>>97589878There’s quite a few models that are “Online Only” you can see how many a faction has in the filters. It just means that they don’t want to risk it collecting dust in a physical store, so they keep them in a warehouse until someone specifically orders it from the website. Usually it’s something really niche or something that a lot of people have anyway. Off the top of my head the Deff Dread is Online Only despite being a perfectly fine model and unit purely because its been sold for so long and in a couple popular box sets that most ork players likely won’t need to pick one up from a store.
I'm thinking of making my first company a different colour to the rest of the army, like deathwing for dark angels or templar brethren for 30k imperial fists or justaerin for sons of horus. The only problem is my chapter's colours are the same as the red scorpions, mainly grey and some yellow so I have no idea what complementary colour I could use for the first company. Black doesn't work because it's too similar to grey and yellow I feel would look a bit dumb. What could I use?
>>97589381The problem with Ynnari is that they only existed to give GW an excuse to remove Slaanesh from the setting. But then they chose not to do that so without the only thing that makes their premise make sense, Ynnari have no reason to exist.
>>97589958That’s a cool idea
>>97589958>Rescue and Recovery SquiresBadass
>>97589958How about a secutarii kill team that do that for titans? It could come out with titan themed terrain and a dark mech team or something.Fuck you James gimme plastic secutarii already
>been becoming a regular at the FLGS >finally getting into the hobby>buying my models through FLGS for store credit and to support my 3rd place>put in order of limited edition Space Marines Through the Ages>shop managers account get frozen for a week by GW as part of a rollout of internal updates for small retailer store fronts>my limited edition order was cancelled by GW>GW won't let me put in a late order on my personal account as it's past the mould timemfw
I think CSM and Black Legion are great and wish more people, including myself, played it more.
People who 3D print their army should be fined or sent to jail for theft. 3D printing warhammer minis is illegal and hurts the industry. I pay for my minis. So should you. It’s only fair.
>tfw trying to think of a paint scheme for my abberants They are meant to be similar to hive fleet behemoth but i have no idea how to do it, an undercoat of red with fleshy tones or something. Im no good with coming up with a scheme
>>97589989condolences
>>97590008I honestly couldn't care, as long as they are painted. Staring at some metafags unpainted resin army is just the fucking worst
>>97589989Some days you’re the marine and some days you’re the ork
It's coming together!
>>97589982that'd be so sweet as well.>>97589978yeah would be so cool and give you lots of different options.
>>97589949kino
>>97589949That looks similar to a chaos knight that someone at my lgs has painted
>>97589750IMO the easy path would be to take the new 30k rules and use that as the core rules and write rules for the 40k armies. 10th is so riddled with dumb core decisions that I don't think it can be salvaged by just tweaking some things. But the main and biggest issues are:>oversimplification of the core rulesThe core rules are so small and cover so little that most interactions require extra layers of rules scattered across datasheets. It also means there's barely any gameplay distinction between unit types. Infantry, vehicles, monsters, artillery, etc all use the exact same frame. This might sound good in theory but in practice it's unintuitive and requires even more exceptions so that the specific units have something to differentiate themselves, ie. vehicles have way inflated toughness, breaking weapon balance, but those exceptions don't have the core mechanics necessary for those solutions to not be half assed.>removal of core mechanicsThey removed tons of mechanics from the game. There's no difficult or dangerous terrain. No morale. No challenges. No templates. No armor values. No cover saves. No psychic phase. You can argue about each individual mechanic but the end result is that currently the game doesn't really allow you to much which means 10th's gameplay revolves around hiding LoS, setting foot in the open and then delete something in a singlee turn. There's no room for anything else because there's no other way to interact with other units other than killing them and this means you need to kill them fast or else suffer retalation.
>>97589750>>97590066>removal of force organizationA FOC acts as a double limiter against spam. Currently you can take any datasheet up to 3 times. With a FOC you had 3 slots of each category, so taking 3 of one datasheet would mean you can't take any more units of that category. Currently you can just take 3 heavy support, then another 3 of a different heavy support and then another 3 of yet another heavy support. Those limitations enforced not only variety in datasheets, but variety in categories.>removal of points costsThis is pretty self explanatory. No point costs for wargear or individual models means no way of balancing those. 10th's internal balance is horrible because of this. It's why they keep splitting units into datasheets with different loadouts, to circunvent the issue they themselves created.>datasheet formattingThey copied the formatting of AoS warscrolls, removing the modularity of statlines of units and weapons and removing the consistency that allowed memorization of common statlines. Now you are forced to constantly reference because nothing is consistent.>interesting rulesFor some reason GW have decided that every rule can only ever have one of like 12 effects so every rule feels samey.
>>97589836>I actually agree with the shrimplificationHave you read the 3rd edition rules? What edition did you start with? I find that most of the people that agree with the simplification of the game haven't actually read how the game was before. Because it was infinitely simpler than 10th once you go past GW's marketing telling you it was too complex and read it yourself.
I played during 3rd and 4th and I have zero interest in going back
>>97589934No need to be nasty, anon.
>>97590052I'd like to imagine this space marine has fallen victim to some kinda weird xenos worm
>I have never seen a Votann filled with more joy than when he's about to sign a contract he's knows he's going to exploit.
>>97589732So I came back from lunch and planned on ignoring this post and going about with my day, but I figured I had sometthing I wanted to get off my chest. I could get into a back and forth argument with you about "Ohhh my Knights are better than your Knights", but that's what you want. I could just call you names, but then you'd call me names back and we'd be wasting both of our time, along with everyone else in this thread's time as well. You want me to step up as your next punching bag to get into spats with, now that Lamenters Anon, Salamanders anon, and all those others left the thread. Well guess what - You're not getting that.I'll admit that I've called you out in the past before, sometimes deservedly so and sometimes just to join in on the dog pile with everyone else. I've replied to you out of hate, out of concern, out of a desire for you to seek improvement. But as I and others have seen it only ever goes in one ear and comes out the other. Going forward I'm simply gonna ignore your posts and I'm gonna hide your images (Both your models and your reactions). More importantly, after this post I am never going to reply to you or acknowledge you in any way, positively or negatively. I recommend others to follow suit, you've shown it's not worth replying to you in any manner, with or without models, with or without hate towards you. You simply just aren't worth my time anymore. Before I never respond to you ever again, I'll leave you with this: Yesterday you stated you've been working on the same batch of Hellblasters for 5 months now, with no other minis to show for it. In that time I've painted ~40 different models including that Knight I posted earlier. It probably would've been more had it not been for work or being out of the country on vacation during the last week in November. In that same timeframe what Hobbying have you even gotten done - and I mean actual hobby stuff unrelated to this General - what have you spent the last 5 months doing?
>>97590141disguating midges, all votann should be stomped.
>>97590143>what have you spent the last 5 months doinghe's been shitposting here for 16+hours a day, obviously
>>97590143Based knightfag. You're one of the good ones.
>>97590147TotalManletDeath
>>97589374its a good book (get it like book of lorgar (bible))
>>97590121What parts of 10th do you actually like? Because I really can't say it does anything better than 3rd/4th except maybe mission rules. And that's the competitive ones. I mostly play Crusade and the narrative missions are mostly the same as they used to be back then.
>>97590141That reminded me of ferengi, but then I realized they’re also short too. What’s it with short non-humans and being greedy contract driven capitalists?
>>97589540she looks like she fucks daemonhosts in her chamber
>>97590143He’s going to have a 200+ post meltie about this
>>97590038If you have already painted your acolytes/patriarch, do not deviate from it that much. But it's going to be behemoth, use regular skin tone then a red wash all over the skin bits, then build up from there. The carapace parts dark blue. Don't go entirely red on the skin as Aberrants are somewhere between the broodcycle, except given a multivitamin shot by the doctore.
>>97590143Nicely painted models, well done.I like the purple you did on the knights.
>>97590166The lack of blast templates (i fucking hated the arguments it would cause), the abilities characters give to units, not having to deal with the limits of fast attack, heavy support, elite units, etc. It felt like games went on for far longer than they should have. Im still a fan of cover saves but gw will never bring that back
>>97590169>he doesn't know about joyous mercantile tribes of history
>>97590143>Yesterday you stated you've been working on the same batch of Hellblasters for 5 months now, with no other minis to show for it. Not to psychoanalyze or anything, but I noticed their color scheme is outside his usual space wolves, so I think he might have wanted to paint them red like the couple knights he has, subconsciously realized that he doesn’t like his marines to not be regular space wolf colors, and now he’s stuck in a viscous cycle of not wanting to actually paint them, but not wanting to start a new project before completing them either. If I were him I’d just cut my losses and strip those bastards to start over desu.
>>97590177Yeah ok my patriarch and acolytes are very red, quite vibrant in a way. I was almost thinking of using a red basecoat, and then airbrushing skin tones over it and then just turning a red oil paint into a wash for all of the recesses, its what ive been doing with all of my gsc so far, I was just worried that it might look a bit odd on abberants. Are they meant to be 2nd gen?
>>97590194>The lack of blast templates (i fucking hated the arguments it would cause)I still fill like the people who argued about templates would argue about anything so removing a cool cinematic mechanic because of them doesn't really achieve anything. That said, I see it as a sidegrade.>the abilities characters give to unitsI'd agree if they hadn't reduced every ability to one of the same handful of effects. Characters used to be more than just buff machines too.>not having to deal with the limits of fast attack, heavy support, elite units, etcThat's a bad thing though. List building is way spammier because those restrictions don't exist anymore.>Im still a fan of cover saves but gw will never bring that backIt's really dumb because cover saves are mechanically identical to invulns and way simpler than the current benefit of cover.
>>97590194Curious how you listed all the common zoomer complaints about old 40k that they never played.
>>97590223The argument meme is just that. A meme. HH and TOW use templates, and no one has ever complained in either system that they should be removed because of how many problems they cause. You only hear that here from people who joined from 8th onwards.
>>97590143It was blatantly obvious he's only after attention when he dropped his trip because people were actually ignoring him. Everyone that kept getting into slapfights with him after that is either an actual retard or a shitposter and that includes you.
>>97590226Im not sure what proof i have to give to prove that I played back then, both of my rulebooks are in storage somewhere but that wouldnt prove anything as anyone could buy those. Im not going back btw>>97590223Ill always defend cover saves, I fuckin hate the current system despite it being fairer to some armies and worse for others
>>97590229Granted we were kids when we were playing those editions so the arguments werent necessary, would be different if i played 3rd and 4th years later
>>97590248Once again, why is it not a problem for HH or TOW? You’re parroting nonsensical GW propaganda. The reason is to appeal to compfags. Nothing more or less.
Hrud really are some 2011 creepypasta looking motherfuckers
>>97590261They are also like 2011 creepypastas in that they are lame as fuck.
it's not the majority of my collection, but i noticed i have a lot of primaris
>>97590236I'll go even further. Bring back the old AP. I want saves to actually matter. I never roll my actual saves in 10th. Every weapon worth using has at least AP-1 or dev wounds. Also breaching and rending are way cooler names than crit hits and dev wounds.
>>97590211To my knowledge they're actually Neophytes that got ill and the Biophagus injected a medicine to make brutes out of them, or so says in the novel Day of Ascension. Their skulls are not elongated like the rest of the squad so 4th Neophytes are more likely. I went for a full purple skin on mine like I did with the patriarch/purestrains/acolytes. They look like bubblegums
>>97590268Does this mean Khorne no longer gets to have HYPER REALISTIC BLOOD with SKELETONS POPPING OUT
Why would admech need heavy skits kataphrons do the job of? And another cawl sized tech priest?
>>97590260Funny how these “3/4th edition veterans” will always ignore this point.
>>97590260it is a problem in HH and nobody plays TOW
>>97590318>nobody plays TOW
>>97590322yes
>>97590318Old world has more players than HH and waaaaay more global tourneys. Like not even close. https://oldworldrankings.com/army_listsTo see how many tracked tourneys are happening.
>>97590326>one season's sales graphic that is almost a year old
>>97590318>>97590322This but unironically.
>>97590326Reminder the source of this is a third party opt in survey of an unknown number of third party stores in the US. Literally worthless as an actual source without knowing methodology (including exact number of stores surveyed)
>>97590344Every single sales report shows TOW nowhere to be seen>>97590336Look at those tournaments in detail and see none of them even come close to filling outCurious!>>97590349Reminder that it's more reliable than you saying it's actually selling super duper well
>>97590322>>97590344>>97590349post your teal dwarfsloppa again lmao
>using tow for a metric as to why templates should’ve brought back I wonder if these people even play games. Or if they’re having someone play for them.
>>97590355I don’t know why the lies about the tournaments when I literally linked the page so anyone can see you’re full of shit. Reminder the largest store in Continental Europe, responsible for 1/50th of all GW global revenue, was interviewed like a month ago and they went on record saying Old World sells more than AoS and that AoS has been struggling since old world is out. So using your survey of a small number of American stores that could literally be just a concentrated handful, vs a business that accounts for 2% of all GW revenue is literally retarded on your part. But I am guessing you never took stats in uni and probably never actually went to uni.
>>97590349yeah your "old world has so many players, trust me bro" is much more trustworthy
>>97590370>it's this retard againyeah bro trust some spaniard shop providing no actual statistics that's super reliable bro trust me bro
>>97590370You already got blown the fuck out trying to use this as proof you retarded nigger
>>97588918Imperial Fist primaris intercessors
>>975903701/50th > 2% ?
>>97590372I literally linked a website that tracks some TOW tournaments. That doesn’t track casual games or tourneys. That is why objectively enough to show that there are more TOW games played than HH games. But you guys simply ignore reality. Because accepting it would accept your worldview being retarded.
>>97590370>I don’t know why the lies about the tournaments when I literally linked the page so anyone can see you’re full of shit.He's not lying, all of those tournaments are for 50-100 people and any of the non-online tournaments barely get 40 people max
>>97590370>T.
>>97590355>Every single sales report shows TOW nowhere to be seenbold claim, may i see them? instead of an outdated chart?>>97590362you're thinking of someone else. don't schizo out when you're confronted with the fact that TOW is more popular than HH and AOS.
>>97590385No it’s the same. The American survey listed here >>97590326 has no methodology given other than it being a survey. And looking at the products being listed, I’ve literally never seen any store here in Europe stocking Nolzurs or Halo where Warhammer is sold.
>>97590397>confronted with the fact that TOW is more popular than HH and AOS.Proof? A quick look shows AoS tournaments have more participants on average than the website your braindead friend tried to use as a gotcha
>tranime And just like that your ethos goes out the window you SEA bigger.
so those Tzeentch Daemons are defiantly getting refreshed? Should I bother with that battleforce?
It's amusing going back to older editions
>>97590406Anime website, tourist
>>97590394> Are you serious lmao. I strongly suggest anyone go to the website and check yourself. This is pathetic. You can objectively see how many more tourneys with how many more players there are AND how many more games overall than HH. BTW I don’t claim that tow is more popular than aos globally. Just HH. And that’s based on hard numbers. Feel free to show some HH data to refute it.
>>97590413Fuck off to /vt/ or /a/ where you ought to be contained you no models.
>>97590419trying too hard, tourist
>>97590143Kek what an adorable little diatribe. You have always had free will here you subhuman little slime, do me a favor and come meet up with me for a game of Knight on Knight and winner gets to smash their opponents models into smithereens and we can even fist fight each other after the game too. Id love to give you a black eye.>>97590235Not true faglord, when I had the Trip I got more attention than ever because people always knew when I was here and would target me accordingly. At least this way I can sort of blend in with my peers and have civil dialogue every once in a while.
>>97590406>triggered
>>97590426trying too hard to pretend to be the mutant
>>97590322Well yes. ToW only exiss to make South Americans spam /tg/ with shit takes about it, but they don't have any money and don't have the brain power to make proxies
>>97590405That guy is wrong. AoS is more popular overall vs TOW. But TOW is waaaaay more popular than HH. And that’s simply based on hard numbers.
>>97590419>aaaaiiieeeeeeeee no anime on MY 4chan!!!!You can leave any time, pussyboy. Also calling someone nomodels without posting yours + timestamp is peak faggotry. You’d know that if you weren't a tourist.
>>97590429…this is the type of bullshit I deal with here. I was at lunch u fat pig.
>>97590426>physical threats over the internetyou're so fucking retarded it's unreal lmao, also you would've died of cardiac arrest before ever reaching the meeting spot you obese failure
What’s with all the AoSisters in the thread today? Did you forget you’re not welcome?
>>97590439Tough talk from someone with simian dna
>>97590440Say that to the tow axe wound tourists that are reading their scripts.
>>97588947PancreasnoworkAnd although he’s a moron with only a surface level knowledge of the setting as a whole he is pretty good with rumours - Valrak
>>97590440You don't speak for the thread, TOWfurry. This is an anime site and furfags have to go back to deviantart.
>>97590446Fantasy is a part of Warhammer history. AoS is a crass marketer sociologists wet dream. I repeat, you are not welcome smegmarite.
>>97590440>AoS is totally more popular guize, stop bullyingthey are still butthurt over the fact that AoS was only purchased at bargain bin prices and then proxied in TOW
I’m starting to think you’re all retarded
>>97590453you didn't even know fantasy existed before TWW release lmao
>>97590457Yea its everyone else, not you though..fuckin slumdog shit licker.
>>97590455sloppy suggy
>>97587494>are skitarii more like servitors or more like bionic guardsmen?Arguably neither.Skitarii can run the whole spectrum, as they're not super standardized across every forgeworld, but the ones that the 30k/40k models represent are basically networked cybernetics with pre-programmed training, conditioning and responses that are implanted into disposable meat recepticles until those bodies give out, at which point the meat is thrown away and the cybernetics are implanted in someone else.Skitarii are directly controlled by either their commanding marshal or the techpriest they are assigned to, and that is quite literal. They have no choice in the matter, it's beyond conditioning into essentially mind control.That being said, the Skitarii characters shown in novels are capable of some independent thought, but are still hypno-indoctrinated to a level far beyond even space marines.So they're not servitors, they're not guardsmen, but they're still not automata. The closest equivalent would be Thallax (pic related), but they're not quite as nightmare fuel.I think that makes them really interesting, it's why I like them.
>>97590457This was all started by zoomers trying to move the convo away from blast templates because they knew they had no way to defend their retarded zoomer stance.
>>97590455Suggs is a thoroughbred, but madone, those choppers. She could eat an apple through a chain link fence.
yall ever play warhammer 40k?
>>97590461There’s a small chance that I’ve been in the hobby longer than you’ve been alive zoomer.
>>97590472Sick Steel Legion v. Valhallans, bro
can marine jet stabilizers point upwards to keep them tight to ground in case of low gravity? or is their only purpose to stabilize them in general and jet around in zero gravity? imperial marine is the only example of this (including the old metal one).
>>97589381>Was it really that bad?I still believe in my scitzo headcannon where Ynnari are the last remnant of GW's aborted AOS moment for 40k, before they realised that they could just move the setting forward without burning it all down
>>97590472>play?
>>97590483I always figured they were on swivels, hence the ball shape.
Of course chaos takes this thread while I'm sleeping.
>>97590472How do german players ever find matches in bolt action? Must be like marine players trying to find non marine players.
>>97590453>warhammer history 1. Don’t give a shit about your speal over lesser settings2. The only history that warhammer has is dying like a used up whore in London in the 1880s. 3. TOW trannies were the ones to bring up how templates are “entertained” in their game, while completely dismissing why it doesn’t in 40k. If someone brought up the double turn in 40k I would be on their ass as well.
>>97590463That's not very nice.
>>97590414I did go to the website, did you?
>>97590472On the reg
>>97590504>marines versus marinesGrim
>>97590491go back to sleep you holowhore simp
>>97590261I don't think the people who draw hruds or post about hruds understand that they're actually very short and never walk around naked like that.
>>97590504>on the reg>only ever posts 2 same pictures of his "games"kek
>>97590498>cherrypicked examples LMAO. Pathetic. Once again I recommend everyone simply go to the website and see for yourselves. Theres so few HH tournaments globally compared to TOW that HH doesn’t even have a ranking website.
>>97590483Pretty sure their soles got something to help them adhere to surfaces., but thruster rotation should be given even if they're just for maneuvering. How do they steer if the jets point in a single direction?
>>97590528>cherrypickedthose are all the top non-online tourneys on your site you posted, cute cope though!
>>97590528Can you shut up with your off topic bullshit
>>97590518I have 100s of game pics you worthless flea bitten dog
>>97590532Anon you literally listed multiple 500 point events.
>>97590541yet you only ever post 2, very curious!
>>97590541lying once againall your pics are on the same terrain against the same ultramarines, in the same nonsensical fake game layouts you always do
>>97590532>500 >750 >1000 >top tournaments Lmao. Like I said. Pathetic cope. TOW gets more tournaments globally in a month than HH gets in a year.
>>97590546>>97590550Yes, those are your top events on the site (you) providedYou can seethe about it all you want but your site is flooded with baby points tournaments, even your events in nottingham get no attendance lmao
>>97590547>>97590548
Hide mutant postsDo not respond to the mutantDo not be baited when he samefagsStarve the mutant of attention
HH doesn’t have tourney stats because it’s a narrative game. Which makes it 1000% better than anything 40k/aos/TOw related. Also you actually have people playing various other editions because each one offered something new, which can’t be said for other gw games.
>>97590556You’re talking about me right now even if peripherally you dumb slime
>97590555>the SAME fucking ultrasLmao this is low effort, even for a retard
>>97590561Where are your game pics you pathetic twerp?
>>97590550>TOW gets more tournaments globally in a month than HH gets in a year.all those 5 player tournaments really prove him wrong
>>97590557>which can’t be said for other gw games.>what is 9th age>what is 6th editionFantasy has plenty of other non TOW editions still played to this day. It's really only 40k and AoS that don't have communities that regularly play older editions. And even then I believe 40k has pockets of 4th grogs.
>>97590322I mean do you play it? Have you seen anyone playing it?
>>97590581>Fantasy has plenty of other non TOW editions still played to this day.10 people globally play it that means it's still technically played!
>>97590568Yes, the 5 player cherrypicked 500 point tournaments are the top tournaments. You guys suck at lying. Legit Somalian tier reasoning.
>Bjorn, why don't I look like the rest of the brothers in my pack?>I met the Blood Angels recently and none of them looked like me either.>Does the All Father hate me?How does he respond?
>>97590589How about you show the multitudes of massive tournaments on the site that (you) provided instead of just bitching about how he cherrypicked them?
>>97590591>You wuz Thousand Sons
>>97590557It's not just tourney stats. Look at youtube traffic for HH videos. I don't mean lore but new releases, batreps, talking about the meta etc. They get fuck all traffic, like 1/3 of what even TOW or AoS get on average. HH is a great business, because you sell the same core kits for 18 of the 20 different armies. So it has a long future, but it's not popular by any quantifiable metric.
>>97590591Sometimes All Father makes us look different.
>>97590581>what is 9th ageYou mean the people who constantly get kicked out because they get annoyed people play anything but 9th age? >6th edition The start of warhammers fall. 5th is the only edition worth playing.
>>97590596at cap of 50
>>97590614>one tournamentthe word multitudes is unknown to you huh
>>97590596115
>>97590591Introduce the real all father to the setting
>>97590596
If you want to argue about the HH take to /hhg/ unless you're scared
>>97590596Last one I will post. But yeah, your 500 point tournaments were totally the " top tournaments " for TOW. Lying retards.
>>97590607>But everyone laughs at me at how I swim, too.>Even the Salamanders cyber bully me>Did the All Father make me different just so people would laugh at me?
Can you hh vs old world gigafaggots all fuck off
>>97590596Show me 1 HH tournament that had as many people as this TOW tourney.
>>97590641I am sorry, I will not post any more about the tournaments. I just wanted to definitively show everyone that those posters were full of shit.
Can we stop it with the tranny tow talk and recognize the new traitor guard models that are supposedly coming like 3 years late?
wrong screencap lmao>>97590614>>97590619>>97590625>>97590631>tow retard can't even work MSpaint>only two of the tournaments had more participants than the HH tournamentslol!>>97590637sure
>>97590641>>97590653they're shitposting in a dedicated shitposting thread, calm down
>>97590661>from last editionTop lel, perhaps I should list the global campaigns from the 2000's for Fantasy if we are doing out of date editions.
>>97590641>>97590653Spamming/flooding
>this threadAre Multi-Melties gonna prevalent during 11th as well?
>>97590667>goalposts shiftedlol!
>>97590673Not really, you've yet to prove there are more HH tournaments. You've provided information for like 8 HH tournaments including from HH 2.0. I've given you a website that tracks over 2200 tournaments from the CURRENT edition. You completely failed to defend your argument and my point of TOW being leagues more popular than HH is vindicated completely.
>>97590687You pretending that there was anything even resembling a playerbase after 2015 and before TOW dropped is adorableFeel free to keep seething and trying to come up with new excuses for why tournaments outnumbering your dead setting don't really count
NTA but HH isn't a competitive game and the playerbase doesn't like competitiveness
>>97590694Anon every one of the " big " tournaments ive listed for TOW was from the last 6 months.You listed a tournament from a different edition back in 2024. You've completely humiliated yourself and the HH community with your inability to reason effectively or prove your point.
>>97590696tournaments are the only metric i understand :^)
>>97590701ntahe provided what you requested and you're scramblingyou will now go schizo and accuse me of being him
>>97590632Trying too hard.
>>97590704He provided information for 8 HH tournaments. I gave him 2200 TOW tournaments. Then he claims HH is more popular lmao.
>>975907142195 5 person tournaments and 5 50+ person tournaments
>>97590717Lmao. I rest my case. You know you're not arguing to convince me but the others right? And you're humiliating yourself.
>>97590709what's the matter? not a fan of the new space wolves lore? it's appealing to a modern audience, maybe you wouldn't understand.
>>97590647MadRobot makes NOT! Vraksians that blow this shit away.
>>97590720Did you miss the part where we're all laughing at you insisting sales data doesn't count while one spanish shop providing no actual metrics does then insisting that tournaments don't count if they're over a year oldYou're jumping from excuse to excuse in desperation
If TOW was even half as popular as people claim it is, then GW would have never killed it off and replaced it with AoS in the first place.
>>97590717>>97590720Can you tards get a room and fuck already
>>97590729>GW is a rational companyfound the flaw in your argument
>>97590726>sales data doesn’t countYou didn’t provide sales data, you provided a survey that doesn’t list the number of participants. It fails in the most basic sense to be a source, and would be rejected from any and every journal based on that fact. I am not desperate or worried. I linked the website with 2200 tournaments tracked. Anyone can see your lies exposed by simply looking themselves. You’ve provided proof that in the last 2 years there have been 8 HH tournaments lmao.
>>97590729TOW is a new game and did not ever get killed off. You meant to type "Fantasy".
>>97590737And there's the part where he turned schizo, like I predicted
>>97590726>spanish shopIt's not a shop it's a mega chain with 11 locations just in Spain.
>>97590744And it provided nothing but air, no stats
>>97590743>can't argue the point anymore>resorts to ad hominemIll take the victory with grace
>>97590749You're arguing with several people schizoAnd (you) lost
>>97590749You got BTFO
>>97590748I never said they provided hard stats. As I said, they stated that AoS has been struggling since TOW launched. I did not claim anything more or less. But just that claim is more factual than a survey that doesn't list the number of participants.
>>97590483One of the metal chaos havocs had a backpack with strangely oriented jets too
>>97590758>But just that claim is more factual than a survey that doesn't list the number of participants.no it isn'tthat's the equivalent of me saying my uncle works for nintendo and he told me zelda sells worse than starfox
Why do people argue here as if winning the argument will affect reality? Posting enough evidence isn't going to magically kill or save any game, you know.
Holy fucking shit what the fuck does it matter which game is more popular, are you people unironically autistic? This is literal console wars tier garbage and you're not even arguing about 40k. This thread is really unsalvageable, my god
>>97590762No, it's more like the CEO of Best Buy stating that Zelda sells worse than Starfox or whatever example you want to use. A third party store owner that does massive business with the parent company.
>>97590769because templates! haven't you been keeping up?
>>97590777sorry the local shop own just told me he actually is responsible for 40% of all sales globally and they haven't sold a single TOW kit in 2 years, guess you're wrong!
I don’t like towdlers. Please fuck off to your general. Even fecal anon would be better to laugh at.
>>97590769>are you people unironically autisticWhere do you think you are right now anon?
>>97589590All of them have died. That's the whole concept and point of a Phoenix Lord; another Eldar puts on the ancient armour and becomes a true resurrected embodiment - body, mind and soul - of the ancient long-deceased Hero who's eternal spirit is locked inside the armour.
>>97590781Thank you for keeping us on track. The point is. Templates aren't a problem in either game, and they wouldn't be a problem back in 40k again. It's simply GW lies to justify pandering to comp fags.
>>97587969I didn't really read 40k books before so I don't know what that means.>>97588354Not really new, just very fucking inconsistent. Sometimes you get white helmets on vets, sometimes it's veteran sergeant and officer only thing. Sometimes you get white arms for veteran, sometimes it's white arms and shoulders (I think the shoulders is mostly a vanguard vet thing they got from Shrike being painted like that before). And sometimes you'll get black arms but white shoulderpads?Raven Guard official 40k paintjobs feel random as fuck at times.
>>97590787I don't blame anyone who plays TOW and doesn't use /wfg/. The bad posters here are like their norm.
>>97590794No the point is both games already have massive issues of their own to worry about before they can worry about templates that add nothing to the game.
>>97590794>dumb nigger forgot what he was arguing abouti wasn't even part of this and kept up just fine, don't respond to me again
>>97588933>demilune>kitbash with official runes, uses the Falcon and Raider models to build
>>97590794we need middle earth strategy battle game melee combat in 40k
>>97588947>THEY ARE LYING ABOUT SO EASYLolYou know you can use thick adhesive tape for painting to make the stripes, right? It really is easy if you aren't retarded.
>>97590851That would actually make compfags shit and piss their pants so I’m all for it. Nice Rohirrim btw.
I got a used apothecary to convert into a butcher surgeon but realized the primaris armour kind of clashes with the world eaters scheme. I wonder if I should get a stray berzerker body from ebay and take off the parts like the surgical equipment and arm with the little computer and attach to a berzerker.
>>97590851Eowyn, leave the shota alone!
>>97589034And I can't wait for a year from now when I can get the individual kits like skyreavers for less because the box is overpriced relative to the content.
>>97590407Tzeentch demons got a refresh not too long ago (in GW's terms anyways) the battleforce box is really good value if you want to get into them Tzeentch demons have like 12 units total but all of them are viable, we may get a new unit or 2 in the future but not likely a full refresh anytime soon
>>97590729If space marines were even half as popular as people claim they are, then GW would have never killed them off and replaced them with primaris in the first place
97590880lmao you're so desperate for attention
>>97589633>>97589033Gimme all the xenos and chaos you got.>>975891451
>>97590888EC
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>>97590880In the long run primaris were a good marketing strategy What pisses me off is that we lost a lot of cool units and haven't gotten a total replacement yet so it's like fuck you for trying We only just recently got assault terminators for fucks sake and those things are staples in the franchise
>>97590888EC 2
>>97590897You can just run Raiders as Tactical Marines, easy.
>>97590880The problem was that they were too popular, which is why GW needed people to buy the army again.
>>97590902Nice. GW thought they could stop me but I will acquire all the pages.
>>97590888TS1
>Drukhari: Maelstrom delivery date updated to Wednesday the 25Come to daddy.
>>97590888TS2
>>97590880They lived side by side for a long time but if there's one thing you should know about marine players it's that they're very insecure about their height(and that of their minis) so they started only buying primarisNow if only GW had realized this and just made bigger marines.
>>97590758>one store saying x is more trustworthy than a survey of a bunch of stores saying y, after all, we don't know how many stores are saying y!I don't give a fuck about your discussion but this argument is retarded.
>>97590904>Raiders as Tactical MarinesWhat?
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>>97590888WE2
>>97590922>two of the TS crucible characters are tzaangors jej
>>97590888CD1
>>97590888CD2
>>97590965Don't just post nurgle shit like that goddamn
>>97590965clean your fucking nails you disgusting troglodyte
>>97590888CD3
>>97590970>>97590972He’s just trying to post rules and you’re bullying him.
>>97590797God I love oldshrike so muchWhen they revamp mk7 for HH I'll have to convert an homage to it
>>97590987>When they revamp mk7 for HH
>>97590888I just want make an infantry character like a captain, chaos lord or a sister with a heavy weapon. Is that possible now without those stupid baby carrier sister suits or centurion suits?
>>97590800Come on let's not get crazy here
>>97590996It will happen, trust. They're already reintroducing the whirlwind from RT despite whirlwinds not being a HH thing in the first place.
>>97590996Now I know what you're thinking and he might be wearing a beakie but the rest clearly isn't MK VI
>>97590987I could never get over his prancing "yay" pose personally.
>>97590797>they couldn't give the raven a sharp beak so it looks like a dove
>>97591020I'm so hyped for the 11th edition tactical squad remake where they'll remove half the stupid shit off primaris armor and actually make it look good
>>97591032primaris look better tourist
>>97591022I didn't like mk6 as a kid so I understand having silly reasons to dislike models
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>>97591036This is a primaris marine, you would know that if you weren't an actual tourist
>>97591020I don't care about the lore implications since it was only present at the siege, I just don't want them to revamp mk7 into a 5monopose kite when they perfected it over a decade ago in the current tactical squad kit.
>>97591046Did you think I was commenting on the retarded white scar? You're even more braindead than you let on
>>97590929It’s one chain that accounts for 2% of GW global revenue. It isn’t a random FLGS.
>>97591048I feel yaAnd they'd all be in the same 5 poses as all the other marine marks
>>97591048>perfectedlol
>>97590996Now that HH series has come to an end, it's time to move from Age of Darkness to Age of Ruin and start expanding into the Scouring.
>>97591052It's still a primaris marine?? You're like an old man who's getting PTSD from his auditory hallucinationnigga lost his nuts in the primaris war
>>97591061you're very desperate for attention, have a free (you) on me
>>97591048JEKYLL JEKYLL HYDEJEKYLL JEKYLL HYDE
What if we got a melee tank for Guard?
>>97591072Again, let me spell it out for your smooth brainI'm not talking about your white scar pictureI'm talking about primaris in generalHope this clears things up!
>>97591068Maybe that's why HH 3.0 is such a nothing burger edition; they're prepping for The Scouring, reintroducing rules based on old Imperial Armour and RT 2nd EdTrust the plan
>>97591079All tanks are melee tanks if you have balls
>>97591091I think that thumbnail gave me cancer
>>97591081>hyped for new primaris>actually, primaris look betterNot beating the senile old man allegations, ngmi
>>97591079>baneblade with a titan close combat weaponPlease...
>>97591096You really have nothing going on upstairsI can see spoonfeeding you further would be a waste of time since you'll continue to miss the point being made
Do the Imperial Guard got any cool vehicles that isn't a tank? I like that walker they got.
Reminder that the Leagues of Votann were strong enough to defeat even the Great Crusade era Imperium. Nowadays they could take Terra in a few months if they really wanted to.
>>97590472Ye
>>97591105Speaking of walkers, is the Eldar walker any good or us ut a meme unit like the Grav Platform?
>>97591105Basilisk>but-its not a tank
>>97591103And yet you're still trying?? You okay old man??
>Everyone hated 10th Edition Eldar because they were able to become part of the hood>You had Fuegan and a squad of Fire Dragons doing drive by'sSo ever since 1st Edition, Eldar have always been S tier. Through out every edition, name a single broken thing in each edition about them.
>>97591118What do you get from shitposting with such low effort posts like this
>>97591115It still has the body of a tank and an artillery cannon. That's still a tank.
>>97591130nta but I guess replies from dumbasses like you
>>97591135um that a Self-Propelled Artillery, dumbnuts
>>97591107Bel'akor is Strength 14, that's stronger than any manlet, he could take the League Worlds in a few minutes at most.
>>97591105I like the mini walkers they got for 30k
>>97591107>ten thousand years of AI inbreeding>the scum are robosexual nowthe best they could muster is mutual assured destruction.which would also mean siding with other xenos. there's reason enough to exterminate these short freaks on sight.
>>97591135No it isn't, it's a self propelled gun at best.
>>97591130>primaris are better touristIs that you?
>>97591149>it's a self propelled gun at bestWHAT DO YOU THINK HAPPENS INSIDE OF A TANK?
>>97591137What a sad existence>>97591151Are you mentally impaired or just pretendingI hope you know the latter isn't any better than the former
>>97591105Picrel
Business Idea: 40k Classic, based on 3/4th edition rules. Like Horus Heresy but not centered around the Heresy/marine vs marine. It would let GW resell the older kits to grogs and those of us who like good games can use the new 40k models in that system. It's a win win.
>>97591166Nobody actually wants 3e/4epeople have tried to reboot interest in it several times and it always died in under a month
>>97591158Tanks and SPG's are two different thing zoomie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-propelled_artillery
>>97591160>DenialNigga if you're gonna do your little "primaris are k1ng" shitposting at least own up to it, you're not fooling anyone>old man still replying
>>97591174>This post is extremely low quality.
>>97591174You're starved for male attention
>>97591166That would kill HH for a couple years meaning they would need to enshittify the gagme that lives.
>>97591166>>97591169I only care about the kits, so if the rules are centered around customization and factions having a large arsenal/wargear section then I'm interested.
>>97591169You haven't played anything pre 8th so your opinion is invalid. Most current 40k players haven't. It's like living in India all your life, you aren't aware that the rest of the world (other editions) aren't complete shitholes. You start to think India (10th edition) is the global norm.
>>97591161>Is jeep with mounted gun on backI like this, I know Space Marines and Genestealers have one too. Do others have this?
>>97591161yoink, ours now
>>97591182>>97591183>I'm not shitposting, you are!>still replies & derails
>he has to respond in order to get (You)ssad
>>97591144The Kin have characters that can take on Primarchs, like Berehk Stornbrow. Skarbrand will be no problem.
>>97591187 >This post is extremely low quality.
>>97591190Something tells me this would be more effective than a sentinel
Is /wip/ a better place than this general? Been thinking about moving.
>>97591205no, it's totally worsestay here and out of there
>>97591184>>97591185I think there's enough room for a 4th 40k and HH. Like I want to play HH type rules but I find the setting incredibly boring. If I want to play marine vs marine ill play current 40k. Imagine 4th 40k Classic with all the weapon/wargear options for all races human, chaos and xenos. Imagine porting Admech backwards into 4th edition alongside other newer armies. It would be great and it's a huge untapped market.
>>97591205you go to the thread related to the topic you want to talk about
>>97590972>>97590970They're the same screenshots as usual from that one leak everyone is using, and yes the guy who took the pictures somehow had horrible hands.
>>97591205Can confirm, wip is garbage. Stay here.
>>97591204>practical grounded sci fi stuff is more effective than fantastical high sci fi stuffno fucking way. Next you you will tell me its stupid everyone in 40k tries to charge into melee when there are sci fi guns and magic that can delete tanks carried as handheld weapons.
Having fun working on some grimslop
>>97591207This.HH used to be an option for 40k players, it shouldn't have been split.Every single setting and system can exist alongside each other. But it's a (shitty) business decision and we all suffer from it, knowingly or not
>>97591222No because that shit is cool and sentinels are not so they can't be shielded by their coolness.
The votann look like afterthoughts next to the drip of that imperial diplomat
>>97591230I'd say the financial success of TOW would be enough to get them to consider a 40k Classic. But I worry that GW would be too worried to mess with 40k being their golden goose to release a " competing " setting/game. Although they could just consider 40k Classic and 40k under a single 40k umbrella like normal people would.
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>>97591249I love her so much bros
>>97591249Looks like an older Brock Lesnar's daughter. Which honestly, is pretty fitting.
>>97591248HH is actually 40k classic though.
>>97591249How big is her cock?
>>97591036Trying too hard, tastelet.
>>97591262Playset wise sure. But the setting is my issue with it. I always found Xenos to be more interesting than the Imperium or Chaos, so for me an Imperial Civil War setting is just meh. I don't want to play different colored marines 95% of the time even if I were to go Admech or Solar Aux.
>>97591248Eh, the difference between tow and aos is not all that comparable to the difference between 3/4e 40k vs 10e 40k imo. Never say never of course but I wouldn't use the one as precedent for the other.
>>97591230I'd be fine with that if 40k didn't jump the shark back in 8th.I stuck with 7th and played HH when 8th for about the first third of 8th, mainly because I just prefered the 7th ed ruleset.I only started playing 8th when I wanted to start a new project with my tzaangors.
>>97591268Fatherless
>>97591109Good to see you back SallyKing
>>97591248OP hereI wouldn't be surprised if they do a 40k classic, they already did a lot of nostalgia wank with HH (mk6 marines, coolness & intelligence from RT 1st ed, whirlwing return, painting tutorials, etc."My current guesses are either- 11th is a big nostalgia wank edition (but wanking a nostalgia that the intended demographic doesn't have)- HH becoming "The Scouring", with the oldschool marine stuff- A side system for Classic 40k
>>97591242and more importantly he's not a manlet either
>>97591275Yeah ill yield to your knowledge of those two systems as I have no clue how AoS plays. I think it's unlikely we will ever see something like that until GW enters a sustained period of financial decline. Right now we are still firmly in the boom era, and who knows, maybe it never ends. But most likely eventually there will be a downturn in GW popularity for whatever reason, and then they will be more likely to consider a 40k Classic as a way to recapture wargamers who quit GW a long time ago.
>>97591288That's not what you were saying a couple days ago posting an image calling him a subhuman ape
>>97591288Go back
>>97591278But enough about you
>>97591297Show proof faggot because I never did that.
>>97591288unironically kill yourself you retarded caricature of a human being
>>97591292I would most prefer the 40k Classic. Although it would be cool if they just expanded 30k to encompass Xenos. But that would fundamentally alter the setting so idk. GW is leaving a lot of money on the table imo.
>>97591304You’re just going to cry about him “archivefagging” when he shows that you did in fact do that, you failed abortion.
>>97591318I'm still puzzled that they didn't do "Great Crusade" rules to fight against eldars, orks and what not.GW has been drop feeding pages of decade old black books for HH, the only reason why they're not giving xenos HH rules is to keep the system separateI mean imagine if they do 40k classic and they have SEPARATE kits for orks and eldars; like "Rogue Trader Guardians" and it's eldar guardians harkoning back to the RT eldarsI wanted it to sound retarded but that'd be actually cool (and yet another logistical nightmare GW imposes on themselves)
>>97591336Mainly because GW now really wants to keep each game seperate so they can better analyse sales data.Its a big reason why the 30k mechanicum line never got ported to 8th after Alan Bligh passed away.
>>97591340I'm a retard so I don't understand why it's important to separate the system.You make modelIt sellsIt goodYou have more places to use modelit sells moreIt goodTo me it's that simple, but I don't have a miniature factory
>>97591288This picture is fucking abysmally cringe holy fuck.
>>97591351yeah you can instantly see how much that faggot doesn't fit in here
>>97591288They hate this picture because of how accurate it is
Page limit hit head on over when you want and leave the trash here>>97591364>>97591364>>97591364
>>97589763corvus has way more beef with lorgar than kurze does
>>97591359>>97591351>>97591314These are the people who want to crush this community, ignore them please.
>>97591375The only reaseon why he has beef with Lorgar was because he pointed out that Kurze is just a better Conrad.Lorgar and Guilliman and the legions have beef because they both keep burning each other worlds, as well as the Ultramarines still using the mark of calth.
>>97591348Your not retarded, it's just GW being autistic and wanting to have clear lines between systems and model ranges.
>>97591378>These are the people who want to crush this communitythat'd be (You) and you already did that, faggot
>>97591398>Your not retardedDontGiveMeHope.jpg
>>97591348>why it's important to separate the system.SO I DON'T AGREE WITH GW'S BRANLET POLICYbut afaik the reasons are;1) keeping each model locked to a system forces players to buy more mini's rather than just buying daemons and playing all games2) the know which teams to berate and bully if they don't meet sales quotas since if game A's mini's sell well, but only in another system the CEO's don't know how to parse that.TLDRstupid corpo reptiles ruin everything for everyone again.
>>97588918>What old design or unit would you bring back as a new unit?
>>97590467I still miss when Tech-Guard and Skitarii were different and not just the same thing that GW smashed together when they released Tech-Priests and Skitarii as separate armies and did shit like give them a radiation and cancer fetish. Hell, Titanicus still has my favorite depiction of Skitarii to this day.
>>97588947I like Bricky (unironically his big lore video explaining the factions are what sold me on 40k) and Poorhammer
