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>Previous Threads:
>>97589522
>>97568566
>>97555454
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just put an order of 10 new paints in the mail
wish me luck anons
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>>97605446
Anon, you are ordering paints, not breaching a door in Ukraine or something. Chill out.
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Is there a meaningful difference in effectiveness between ~90% IPA and 99%? I imagine there's some, but would 99% noticeable get paint/primer off more effectively?
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>>97605463
probably nothing for removing acrylic paint. if you need something more aggressive, you need a different substance
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>>97605463
Probably like 9% more effective. Just a hunch.
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>>97605463
well if 40%-60% hand sanitizer is good and cheap enough then i would have to say the difference is around 9%
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>>97605463
Well, instead of ten isopropanol molecules slamming into some tiny part of the paint you now have nine of them hitting that bit during the same time frame, plus five water molecules puttering by doing fuck all.
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>>97605635
now that we have an actual chemist in the thread how dangerous would you rate breathing in IPA fumes
do you recommend some breathing apparatus or is it just healthy evaporated alcohol making you little dizzy
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>>97605660
not dangerous at all? are you sticking your nose directly above the IPA? wtf are you doing amigo? a mask might not be a bad idea, but only to stop the splatter of acrylic paint from getting in your mouth/nose.
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>>97605660
You are not breathing enough of IPA to make it dangerous. Acetone, at the other hand...
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>>97605688
No, not even acetone. Obviously, depends on your user case, but if you are just using it to cement stuff, the exposure is imo nowhere near dangerous.
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Working on some Empire stuff.
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>>97605688
>>97605717
point being almost every single time i come across some tutorial that deals with using IPA for stripping or cleaning 3D prints there is a disclaimer telling me to take proper precautions like a high end filter mask
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>>97605758
>3d prints

that's because of the resin, which is 1000x more toxic than IPA
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>>97605793
Seriously, go fuck yourself.
We've got an anon over in 3DPG who recently ran air quality tests while printing, both next to the machine and the next room over, with and without ventilation, and then ran the same tests while frying eggs in butter and frying fish in oil.
Frying fish in oil is many times more damaging to your health than 3d printing on the nightstand next to your bed while you sleep, you ever seen anyone wear a fucking rebreather for cooking fish?
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>>97605840
thank you for the public service announcement im sure it will be remembered
i was just pulling the leg to point out how dumb this whole masking up thing was but you pulled the rug righ under my feet
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>>97605892
>I was only pretending to be retarded
Uh-huh.
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anyone has a link to the vallejos new metallic colors swatch?
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>>97605840
The PPM isn't what matters, it's what those parts are.
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>>97605840
amigo, handling resin while cleaning it is not the same as a printing it on the other side of the room.
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>>97605978
if you're a man you've been under a vehicle pulling wrenches at some point in your life, handling wd40, engine oil, grease, gasoline, diesel, etc... are all far more hazardous to your health by contact and inhalation then resin are.
If you haven't you're a pansy little pussy bitch and I can sort of understand why you're afraid.
Grow some fucking testicle hairs, and some testicles too while you're at it.
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>all these dinguses responding to a classic bait
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>>97605688
>Acetone, at the other hand...
...was sloshed around like water when I visited the polymer chemistry lab at my local university.

>>97605758
A mix of better-safe-than-sorry and arse covering.

>>97605840
And as was noted in that thread "VOC" is a huge group of chemicals that range from mostly harmless to literal nerve gasses. So just the VOC concentration alone won't tell you much about how dangerous something is if you don't know which VOCs it is you're talking about. It's kinda like a metallic compound detector that doesn’t bother to tell you if it's sodium chloride and haemoglobin it's detecting in your lunch, or arsenic trioxide and dimethylmercury.

>>97605992
>are all far more hazardous to your health by contact and inhalation then resin are.
Maybe they are. Maybe they aren’t. We don't know, and you sure as hell don't know.
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>>97606073
>We don't know
Maybe you don't, but I do.
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allright primed them, I just can not decide on a color sceme yet, thinking about yellow, or a reddish purple
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>>97606149
Did you prime them with a sandblaster?
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>>97606149
Yellow stripes go hard on anything buggy, and yellow and purple are complimentary, as long as you avoid making them look like the Lakers it should look good
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>>97606149
how were you planning on basing them
also why does every member of what i assume is a ravener squad look so different
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>>97606168
nah tried out a new primer kinda shit, but it will not matter once the paint is on you will not notice anything, job of the primer is just to make the paint stick anyway
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>>97606189
You can build them as a normal ravener squad, or the kill team hyperadept ravener squad.
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reposting goth vampire elf.
I should really try and finish the real things I was trying to get done this month though.
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>>97606189
I will prollyjust go for basic bitch rock/desert bases, like i did for my necrons
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>>97606216
>I didn't get enough attention!
Disgusting.
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>>97606238
If he was looking for feedback or advice and didn't get much then he's valid. If not and he just wants people to see it and say things, then he's a fag.
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>>97606257
I think the reason anon only paints busts is because they are a much larger scale than the standard miniatures here so he can hide behind scale to make himself look more skilled, the sad thing is he clearly isn't a bad painter, but the bust posting never gets constructive criticism feedback, he only ever gets ass-kissing praise, so that's what he's posting for or he would've expressed frustration at the lack of critique awhile ago.
So he's just attention seeking.
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>>97606238
>>97606257
Nta but I didn't see you faggots complaining about it in previous threads when anons were reposting so stop singling him out
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>>97606216
i think the last one i saw was blended better than this
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>>97606296
But anon, if we can't sperg out about the toxicity of acetone then we have to sperg out about something.
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>>97606296
I don't live in the thread 24/7 so I'm not always around to call out a fag for being a fag.
I can see how that may be hard for you to understand though, given that you likely do (else you wouldn't be making this asinine statement).
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>>97606321
post models
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>>97606344
Funny, I don't see a model on your post.
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>>97605921
I still don't understand this paint range. they call it tmm but it still comes in triads. if you're shading your metals it's nmm not tmm. am I completely misunderstanding what tmm means?
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>>97606421
None of it means anything.
TMM was originally meant as a style where you did shade the metallics, but it was co-opted immediately by everyone to just mean normal metallic paints. So I think Vallejo is trying to go with the original meaning, but the term these days just means using metallic paint to most people.
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>>97606421
Yes, but only because retards have applied the term incorrectly for years now.
TMM is applying the same thought process behind NMM and then using metallic paints, and often washes/glazes to do it. But that would be actual work, and they wanted to have a special word for slapping metallics + a wash on. The wash is not guaranteed.
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>>97606421
they have metal paints instead of using not metal paints to make it look like metal. what's so hard to understand?
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>>97606527
>>97606466
but isn't the point of metal paints that they look like metal by themselves? like if you are painting a b-29 with airframe aluminum you're done after the one paint color because that's what it's supposed to do.
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its always funny reading through threads on 4chan that delve into personal safety.
someone will reccomend basic ppe, like a mask to stop you getting lightheaded or get paint in your mouth, and someone will call them worse than hitler and proclaim that its fine, and the repeated chemical exposure they put themselves through has had no issues, like suggesting basic "we dont know what these chemicals do long term, so maybe dont breath a lot of them" is some sort of personal offence.

personally i don't wear a mask while spray painting, since i do it outside, but i do wear a mask while handling uncured resin, because i hate the smell.

we had a guy at my flgs back in 2003 who woud literally get woozy from acrylic paint fumes, so he painted in a full respirator mask, we called him the toughness 1 guardsmen, and made sure to close up all the paints and kick on a fan before we all went to lunch, so the fumes would dissipate by the time we got back and he could game without it on.
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>>97606557
I suggest reading something on how light works. What you describe would look flat as fuck because there would be no shading.
This video explains it well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS6eNT_38gw&t
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>>97606591
>sloptube
Give me a peer reviewed and published paper on it or I'm not wasting my time on it.
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My knights, 3 more in the mail
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>>97606557
it's basically just edge highlighting with different metal paints and putting dark washes in the recesses.
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>>97606605
I am Vince's peer, and I have reviewed his work; it's fine
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>>97606073
>was sloshed around like water when I visited the polymer chemistry lab at my local university.

My prof (from faculty of physics) back at uni was also pretty careless about acetone as cleaner but I was instructed by prof at faculty of chemistry to keep it under active ventilation and avoid breathing it in. I prefer that other opinion.

As for 3d resin printing, this shit does produce harmful fumes. I can still remember one guy who caused entire building at my institute to get evacuated after he accidentally dropped one bottle of this stuff to the floor. People reported nausea and headache while he insisted to occupational health and safety inspector that it's not a big deal and it's "completely harmless".
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It took me a long damn time to realize that my paints are shit. I've bought some art paints some time ago and just used them and I've just sat down to test them against very few cheapest brand model paints I have (initially I only planned on painting model kits desu). Now everything's clear, it really isn't supposed to be this hard to paint. Fuck my life. Here are the minis I've been working on recently.
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>>97606731
Forgot, obviously
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>>97606559
im not the anon calling everyone who doesnt huff motor oil and like to get his hands dirty on a daily basis a little sissy faggot but he does have a point
people these days have become overly protective and afraid of pretty much everything, there is nothing wrong with basic common sense but there is a limit how low the bar should go until people become unable to do anything because they are afraid of everything
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>>97606731
It's true. Sometimes it really is the tools.
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Speaking about acrylic paint smell, I keep all my paints in closed plastic containers and I noticed that while Citadel ones basically have no smell when I open the box, TTC have some odd, soap-like smell, AK only very slight one, new Vallejo little worse but manageable but old Vallejo alway, always produce awful, intense smell similar to banana each time I open their box. I simply find that odd.
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>>97606735
Would.
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>>97606745
I simply wish that people would avoid falling into one or another extremes. Like one of my chemistry teachers at uni that wouldn't bother to wear gloves to pick up even wet stuff ("I won't eat me, relax") but she always made sure to wash her hands properly after that.
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ye going with yellow, tried out the meme way with pink undercoat
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>>97606781
>wash hands after
The only real thing to do after handling resin
>>97606719
>Evacuated the building
Hypochondriac pussies
>people reported nausea and headaches
Women do that shit for no reason, especially after seeing a new medicine commercial that lists symptoms to consult a doctor about
>No honey, you do NOT have testicular cancer, for fuck's sake
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>>97606798
Pink isnt a meamne its kino

Urs look good
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>>97606321
No craftsperg, you singled him out because he posted a bust and getting asspained about that is one of your recurring shitposts. Go jump off a cliff, niggerfaggot
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>>97607032
Schizofag, you call everyone craftsperg, take your meds
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>>97607091
I'm sorry you have to samefag your slop to get any replies but don't take it out on other anons
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>>97606719
As a lab chemist who uses a fuckton of acetone I'm personally much more concerned with the fumes catching fire than breathing them in
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>>97607123
I still would recommend not using acetone inside without ventilation though
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All this autism, ragebait and nonsense...
Its giving me a sense of peace like you wouldnt believe.
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>>97606591
I'm sick of hearing this. do you know how metal works? discounting corrosion it's all the same color. the blade of a sword or the panels on an airplane are all going to be completely uniform. the whole point of metal paints is that they look like actual metal so you can paint your shit a single color, just like real metal would be.
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>>97607204
trying too hard, craftsperg
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>>97607217
https://youtu.be/GAol8To7ndk?t=146
look at the disc in this video. each color reflects light like real metal. trying to paint shades on with additional colors isn't going to make it look any more like metal than it already does. on the contrary it would only make it look less realistic.
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>>97607230
>>97607217
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>>97607242
are lacquers craft paints now?
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>>97607204
>posts pic where the metal is showing dozens of different colors on single panels
lol?
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>>97607276
do not fucking engage this cretin
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>>97605731
Kino bright wizard, 3d?
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>>97607276
how many different colors of paint do you think were used on a single panel in that image?
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>>97605921
Shoutout to ancient copper. Love all three parts of it. The sterling silver I like too but I was not a fan of the shade.
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i think it's done, just need varnish and a base, tomorrow
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>>97607311
Its super cool and full of S O V L, anon, I love it !
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>>97607259
The schizo calls everyone that, the so-called craftsperg hasnt posted models in a week or so IIRC and they werent even bad, schizo never posts models though.

But adressing the topic, 99% of hobby metallics lack the reflectivity of po.ished metal, they're like stippled cast pot metals or unpolished brass plumbing fixtures, so they do need shadows and highlights.
Some anon recently posted a custodes in a truly polushed metallic gold paint that didnt need that, it caught light proper on its own, that is a very rare exception.
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>>97607281
>>97607281
Better than engaging your schizo ass, yet im doing just that, so why not someone who is at least on topic?
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>>97607364
>>97607371
>a minute apart
lol, lmao even
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Painting up some big robots and I don't know what to do for the bases, Normally I paint board games that come with some kind of textured base, so don't really have any ideas for what to do with them.
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>>97607364
It's cute how you think everyone calling you out is the same person
>they werent even bad,
Yeah an all over coat of a single color with a couple white stripes is indeed very impressive
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>>97607378
Yeah? I meant to put those together, not like im replying to one comment twice pretending to be two people like you do, schizo.
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>>97606798
looks great, the pink is a great undertone.
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>>97607393
Im not saying the craftpainter is great, hes just competent, and the first stuff he posted which was nose art pinups was praiseworthy, particularly at that scale.
Yeah he got on a high horse after that about contrast paints which was autistic (look where we are though), but the nerve it struck with the fucking schizo here that's called everyone craftsperg for almost a year now is absurd, schizo must be a slapchop slopper to take it so personal.
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>>97607486
>not like im replying to one comment twice pretending to be two people like you do, schizo
ironic
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>>97607311
Looks good.
Diehard miniatures right? How much assembly do their skeletons have?
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>>97607530
You dont know what that word means
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>>97606216
She looks like she ruins expansions
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>>97607364
>alclad
>mr super metallic
>ak extreme metal
>a bunch of smaller brands I can't remember off the top of my head
so these just don't count? you might as well just say "citadel and ap metallics suck and 99% of people refuse to use anything else for some reason."
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>>97607615
at least I'm not an autistic shitposter that derails the thread about a hobby he barely participates in so there's that
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>>97607628
Your shitty attitude aside, yes, people use hobby metallics that are known and spread throughout the community by word of mouth and wargaming focused advertising.
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>>97607673
Now this is irony.
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>>97607714
You dont know what that word means
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>>97607719
Now how that works schizo
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>>97607703
Let's see models you painted where you used those metallics.
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>>97607728
Literally every model in this general to ever be posted with metallics except the aforementioned custodes.
You might want to cut the snarky bitch thing with the one anon to give your shit a serious reply, asshole.
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>>97607703
you're acting like those aren't hobbyist products or that they aren't well known by scale modellers.
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>>97607741
Fucks sake my bad I meant to reply to the earlier post >>97607628
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>>97607744
Wargaming isnt scale modelling, no trains or planes here.
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>>97607801
Oh, that explains it, different anon, different side of argument.
All good sir.
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Dont know why the exhaust looks suddenly super shitty but, here we are, need to attack the base now.
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Noob question: How long should I wait to spray a gloss varnish for an oil wash after priming with Citadel sprays?
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>>97607833
Still looks kino. I should get back to my forgefiend asap.
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>>97607833
I'm really enjoying seeing this guy come together, nice work anon
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>>97607837
It says on the can you should wait 15 minutes before painting over it so I'd assume it's the same time for spraying varnish.
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>>97607840
>>97607843
Thanks ! Will improve it further because I didnt correct many mistakes, plus I see that I missed some area to shade with the photo.
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>>97607567
yes
i have 4, for that one, basil and john only the shields are separate, and melcor is just one piece
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>>97607833
>fiends
>we're fiends
>we're the fiends
>celebrating yet another birthday, team
>[cadia] it's your birthday today
>skulls and bloodshed, are on their way
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Took a break from painting some Tau to soak an old predator in simple green and restore it. I couldnt find anything of the old sponsons except a heavy bolter, so I had to bash my own together. Any ideas on how to make the door area looks less plain?
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>>97608206
front view of the sponson
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>>97607917
Nice! I was pinning some of otherworlds skeletons and very thin metal is a huge pain to set up right, I'll tell you that for free
That's a good looking mini though, really nice rust effect for his armor, especially on the back
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A few threads back, anon were talking about casting metal miniatures in silicon molds... So I started reading a lot about it. Are the spin-casting methods mostly done for higher consistency and speed, or do they capture details that much better?
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For glazing gradients, it is better to use a medium with high surface tensions (ie. water) rather then low surface tension (wash medium), right?
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realized I never showed the finished version of this, so have a mime.
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>>97608636
Looks a bit chalky. Phone filters? GW paint?
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>>97608650
GW paint
wraithbone
honestly, I'd like to buy another an completely re-do the paint scheme, but this time just base it with wraithbone primer and add details.

it's so thick because I painted to whole model blue and decided I hated it, so I went back to wraithbone, but that shit is chunky as hell no matter how much you water it.
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>>97608667
Yeah, I rarely see wraithbone ending up fully smooth. Maybe you could have thinned it further and done more layers, but this is simply not a problem with other off-white paints like. Hell, even pure white tends to be less chalky than that.
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>>97608636
his gun looks like a dildo.Probably something from bad dragon.
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>>97608694
yeah I'm fed up with GW paints in general.
the pink gemstones and the pistol are gundam marker.
>>97608711
Neuro Disrupteez NUTZ
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>>97607311
Very nice. How did you paint the armor? I like the worn look of it
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I did a bunch of the basing on my Ruststalker conversions now that I'm rapidly approaching the deadline for saturday. At least this way, even if I dont finish the models themselves, they'll have a feeling of completeness.



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