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Spire of Dawn edition

>Previously, in the Mortal Realms
>>97646053

>Official AoS website:
https://www.ageofsigmar.com

>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/

>Tools
https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/

>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:
https://aosg.github.io/

https://sigdex.io/

>Thread question(s):
Which versus box has been your favourite?
What would your ideal one (realistically) look like?
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>Which versus box has been your favourite?
Counting Warcry?
Jade obelisks vs the chameleons
Not counting them then it’s gotta be sylvaneth vs skaven
>What would your ideal one (realistically) look like?
You know I haven’t a clue how sylvaneth would deal with slaanesh. They should probably be anxious of slaaneshs
Potential return but I just can’t really imagine that.
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i really liked feast of bones. my ideal box would be Khorne vs OBR, though i cant decide on what it would look like.
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Despite being a bit of meme spire of dawn was great value, being just a repackaged starter box and all. I'm sure the 5 or so swifthawk agents players were very happy.
I liked fury of the deep for the fun thematics of fire dwarves vs water elves, though I remember it being kind of a crummy discount and unexciting selection of units. Not like they had much choice with either faction of course.
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>>97652901
>Which versus box has been your favourite?
Uniroincally the 1st ed AoS box, the sigmarites vs blood god dudes one
.What would your ideal one (realistically) look like?
Same box but with new models
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>>97652972
I recently snagged the stormcast half and plan to run it as the skaventide spearhead, just gotta find a little gryph hound. The paladins will make for some good annihilators if I ever wanna turn it into a full stormie army. Pretty nifty box, I believe vandus is the only stormcast still in production from the original guys? Before the vanguard stormcast dropped, that is.
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>>97652901
>TQ
Either Looncurse or Blightwar with old Neave and Horticulus

Feels like we haven't had a versus box in a while, last one was with the new Curseling no?
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>>97653039
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>>97653039
Rumours say the next versus box is going to be TOW. Wood elves vs Tomb Kings
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>>97652986
>I recently snagged the stormcast half
Baller
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>>97653061
That's a really odd pairing
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>>97652901
Coming from the Fantasy board, made me laugh, OP
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>>97653086
Its whats going on in the narrative right now, liche priest is poking around Athel Loren seeking power
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>>97653051
Last 3 boxes had the best artwork.
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>>97653051
>1 box with Stormcasts
It's so nice to have a game system that doesn't have to jack off one army constantly
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>>97652972
God early sigmar art fucking sucked
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>>97653281
The art is fine.
The problem is the colors look like the box was left in the sun for a decade even when it was new.
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>>97653086
It's such an odd pairing that I believe it. Also like >>97653097 said. Can't wait to see new Wood Elf plastics. Kurnothi guy is going to love it (or hate it)
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>>97653293
I’m going to have to agree with the other guy. Lots of great AoS art throughout the years. That box art was absolute ass.
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>>97653293
>The art is fine.
Okay lol
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lads, whats the cheapest you've seen the Darkwater set go for? Is $185 a steal for it?
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>>97653585
The longer you wait the bigger the discount. They way overprinted and demand overall was low looking at third party stock.
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>>97653585
I've only seen it go to $216 in the united states, so thats a bigger discount than I've seen at least.
>>97653603
what makes you say that? On ebay it seems to be selling a bit still. I dont remember the specific number but flipside gaming sold over 100 of them before selling out completely in the morning on pre order day. my lgs also has it rotating in and out still.
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>>97653086
Not really.
They want to replace the hideous old TO skeletons and they want to move old WE product. So they force all the TK people to pay for WE they want to get rid of
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>>97653727
The rumour states it’s going to be a starter box equivalent meaning all new sculpts only.
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>>97653281
>>97653482
I think that one's pretty sick personally.
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>>97652901
Shadow and Pain as it was my entry into AoS, was ridiculous value for money.
Bought it for about as much as a regular Spearhead. Sold half of it. So pretty much got a half price Spearhead.

Dream, DoK vs Gitz as they're my two armies.
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>>97653482
It's gotten good within the last couple years,.probably with 3rd edition. Before that it was absolute comic book tier crap
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>>97653859
Also no coomer pics coomer hater.
I will wait until the next thread until I post more. I promise.
But I'm not the only Morathi coomer so can't account for the rest of them
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Wallah!
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>>97653262
>It's so nice to have a game system that doesn't have to jack off one army constantly
>says he while all starter boxes are exclusively sigmarines vs ...
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Added a lil more paint to this wip. Kinda changed my plans for my paint scheme on this mini because it turns out I fucking love grey. Also I should probably add a lamp onto the list of things to buy because it’s impossible to see jack shit unless I’m painting by my window.
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>>97653955
Yeah a lamp is necessary
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>>97653943
If Stormcasts were remotely like Space Marines they'd get new models every three months, forever.
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>>97653881
Different points on the same timeline, after all :^)
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>>97653980
>If Stormcasts were remotely like Space Marines
They would be included into every starter box
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>>97653989
They are
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>>97652934
>Warcry
Sorry, anon.
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>>97654480
I wish they would just update the new stuff that came out with nurgle and and the recent releases. I dont even really care for new boxsets, the rules are perfect as is. Although I would buy into a reprint of old box sets like the one with iron golems or catacombs.
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>Kairos is (presumably) in ghyran atm and is in the middle of fucking Nurgle over by literately crystalizing his lands
Is that a new feature for Tzeentch? Crystilization? I mean it does fit I guess, but usually I thought it was just wyrd flame, chaos spawn, and other body mutations.
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>>97654480
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There are 3 warcry players in my local scene and theyre all unbearable faggots
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>>97654480
>>97654531
It's sad. Warcry is such a good game

>>97654585
Why? Our Warcry group is super chilled.
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I fundamentally hate VS boxes as an idea.
No i'm not collecting both of those factions.
No i'm not buying tbe box together with some random guy who collects the other.
No i can't be bothered to sell half the box online.
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>>97654624
as someone with actual friends i've enjoyed splitting them over the years. me and a buddy usually go in on at least 1 a year, usually over the summer, as well as the edition launch boxes.
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>>97653881
They're surrounded...
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>>97654763
What happens if you both want the same half of the box?
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>>97653727
>They want to replace the hideous old TO skeletons
oh man I hope there's truth to those rumors, I was putting off buying the basic skellies hoping they'll refresh them eventually
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>>97654508
it's not a new thing, tzeentch has a crystal labyrinth around his fortress and we already had his realm and nurgle's realm at war with each other, expanding the garden or the labyrinth into the other's territory
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>>97653061
That's apparently supposed to be kind of like a starter set, so all new minis instead of just the one.
We have a similar rumour for CoS vs Eshin "spearhead starter set".
>>97653087
I'm glad you enjoyed my stupid joke
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>>97654624
Ya don't gotta buy them.
Alternately, if you don't want to deal with waiting for 2 armies you want to be packaged together and don't want to deal with haggling to try to sell the other half, you can just make it a christmas or birthday gift to a friend who collects that army.
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>>97653051
If you count them out only seraphon, soulblight, StD, CoS, warclans and (obviously) SoB have never been in one of these, though warclans were in the 3rd edition launch box of course and CoS are getting one of those soon if rumours are to be believed. Oh, and neither were beasts of chaos, and of course helsmiths of hashut.
Sylvaneth, Tzeentch, Slaanesh, Skaven, and DoK have been in two of these.
A lot of very popular factions never got one, and quite a bit of relatively unpopular ones got two. I think the intent behind these boxes was fairly obvious.
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>>97655035
>and (obviously) SoB
With Lady of Vines in one this isn't so obvious
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>>97655066
she's big for a dry ad but smol for a gant
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>>97655035
>SoB
You could technically do it, it would just be funny because the SoB side of the box would be literally one model.
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>>97655066
I always forget how big she is. She's like kurnoth hunter size in my head. Still not quite gargant level though, even the small ones.
>>97655087
It'd basically be the spearhead of just three mancrushers. I don't think that'd even be that much more than some of the other sides, I think it's like 180 euros for 3 mancrushers if bought separately? I know their spearhead is more expensive than usual, which is funny because it's not even the most value one, the new idoneth spearhead works out to exactly 200 euros yet the spearhead is still normal priced lol
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Didn't 40k have a knight VS-Box?
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>>97655190
Not quite. They had an admech vs necron box that included the two armigers (+ a 10 man unit of admech infantry and a techpriest hero guy).
Problem is that SoB don't have little guys to pair with the big guys like admech do. Also worth noting that costwise the armigers come in pairs and there only slightly more expensive than even a single mancrusher (€80 vs €61.50).
They could've done something like an ogre/orc/git box that includes an allied gargant but that's a bit more iffy than admech where knights are more integrated into the actual faction (afaik).
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>>97655190
It had two, one was a knight vs knight boxset with terrain and a completely different set of rules for big-to-big combat
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>>97655208
Oh shit I didn't even know this existed.
What was the discount on this thing vs just buying the two knight?
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>>97655208
What's even the point of that terrain?
Would we count the HH boxes like Saturnine as Vs boxes or not?
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>>97655295
>What's even the point of that terrain?
tanking the value of the box's discount and of multiple purchases
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>>97655295
>Would we count the HH boxes like Saturnine as Vs boxes or not?
I suspect 99%+ of HH boxes are used by 1 person as opposed to split. I mean it's the strength of the system, basically every release can be used by like 20 factions aside from the occasional solar auxilia or legion specific release.
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>>97653281
Pic unrelated? That box is kino
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>>97653051
aether wars was kino as fuck, the all-flying theme was really fun. Only downside is that I personally don't really like either of the characters included, the kharadron dude is probably my least favourite sculpt in the whole range.
Which is a shame because the new heroes are usually great. Loonboss on cave squig is amazing, so is the arch-revenant. Feast of bones, Shadow and pain also had great heroes, and the curseling from the tzeentch box is great too.
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>like 5 LGSes in my vicinity
>all of them of just ask GW prices
wtf why
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>>97655516
LGS owners gotta eat, and the retailer prices aren't that much better.
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>>97655516
So that they earn higher margins and you won't buy from GW cause it's the same + shipping
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>>97652901
>what would your ideal one look like
Seraphon haven't been in one of these, a skink focused on could be cool. Some skinks, some raptadons, I guess a unit of kroxigor for the symmetry, and then let's say a redone skink priest. I don't know what'd be thematic for them to go up against though, except for skaven. Although half the fun of these boxes is that they sometimes put completely random factions against each other like feast of bones for some cool interactions. So, maybe against gravelords or something out of left field? Seraphon vs ironjawz could be fun too.
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>>97655725
>redone skink priest
What's wrong with the current one?
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>>97655744
Absolutely nothing, it's a great model and holds up perfectly fine, but if we're being realistic I think gw might be looking to replace it sooner rather than later, it still comes with a sculpted square base and everything. Similar situation to the oldblood on foot. (Then again the wight king and necromancer survived without any problem).
Actually thinking about it, maybe a skink chief on foot would be a nice pity hero. We have one on a stegadon and on both of the fliers, but they squatted the foot option a few years back.
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>>97655793
Skink chief on foot would make for a nice pity hero I agree, though one on a raptadon could be cool also, to keep up with raptadons. The current flier chiefs don't actually buff skinks, only their specific respective units. Neither does the stegadon chief I think, so a a raptadon one would be great to buff the hunters/chargers.
Though saying that I would fear for the pricing, I mean look at the aggradon scarvet man. He doesn't even look all that different from the lancer champion! Though his aggradon is ever so slightly larger, and he does get a sweet mace weapon option. Nevertheless, it's one of those units that I actually really like the look of but can't bring myself to ever buy. Maybe if I see him for cheap secondhand one day.
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i just want seraphon to be good at shooting again
i hate spamming aggradons and kroxigors
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>>97655978
were they ever good at shooting?
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>>97655987
yes in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd ed before their battletome they were an excellent ranged army
even in 3rd ed you could do some shooting... but the index has completely killed that design
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>>97656009
I never knew that, with what the fuck did they even shoot? Were skink boltspitters that good? the stegadon ballista thing?
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>>97656023
combination of bastiladons, stegadons, salamanders, razordons, and EOTG mortal wound blasts
foot skinks were especially deadly in 2nd ed, high volume with crit mortals

bastiladons used to have 9 shots at 2 damage and you could double tap them to shoot twice per turn
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>>97655978
Well people didn't enjoy playing your faggot skink cloud bullshit.
Spam skink riders and terradons then and play serious rat AoS
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>>97656090
i never spammed skinks... i did something much more degenerate
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>>97656103
I'm always happy to see gw showcase alternate colours but jeez what an ugly scheme
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Im not a fan of flight stands, what are my alternatives for revenant seekers?
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>>97656186
literally just some sticks you find out in the woods
no seriously some type of wooden treestumps or whatever, shouldn't be too hard to come by or make
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>>97656186
treems
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>still won't have a complete set of both scenery and spells by the end of 4th
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>>97656330
>ogors
>smiths
>gargants(?)
>nurgle
>cities(?)
Pretty sure seraphon are rumored to get them, I think cities are too, but idk. Wouldn’t surprise me if smiths get a dawn bringers style box for the end of the edition.
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>>97656113
It's like they took the Hive Fleet Leviathan scheme and made it worse by removing all the pink that ties the purple and ivory together.
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>>97653281
(You)
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>>97656330
>beastmen brayherds
Also I do wonder if they're sticking to the idea, because it's very odd that they skipped nurgle if they are
>>97656348
cities are supposed to get one yeah.
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>>97656462
nurgle had a huge wave already, they're likely keeping the spells to accompany a pity release in 5th
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>>97656509
Could be yeah
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>>97656348
>Pretty sure seraphon are rumored to get them
With the coatl secured as a hero model, my only hope for the spells is for them to be random floaty magictech engines like the astrolith

>inb4 giant flat swarm base of copy pasted snakes, ethereal carnosaur head emerging out of nothing, and literally the realmshaper engine circle but on a separate base
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>>97656617
>shitty chinese jungle swarm like the gloomspite spiders
>twin tailed serpent
>magitek floating crystal star
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>>97656617
>With the coatl secured as a hero model
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>>97656734
we got reliable rumormongers now, wake up
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>>97655516
In what currency?
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>>97656793
Yuros
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>>97656103
Warscroll Battalions my beloved
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>>97656793
I should also mention warhammer in general is dead as fuck in these stores, even 40k. There's a decent community but they all play at a local "rent a table" kind of setup instead of the stores themselves and just order all their shit from online retailers.
The only discounts I've seen are on like shit like 3rd edition data cards and boxes that REALLY don't get sold. Even then the discount is pretty conservative, one of these stores has a few dominion boxes left at like a whopping 20% off. One thing that's kind of nice is that they don't really keep up with price increases all that much, and sometimes I find an old box at a great price. Snagged an idoneth start collecting for like 70€, when for example just the namarti alone go for 50€ nowadays, so the whole box end ups at around 170€ if you were to buy them separately at gw prices.
But yeah hard to overestimate how little anything moves in these stores. There's still some whfb kits being sold ffs.
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>>97652939
>though i cant decide on what it would look like.
Skull theamed
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>>97656330
Is it against the official tourneyfag rules to just make your own scenery? I feel like I could make a gnarlmaw or skull altar I'd like better.
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>>97656908
As long as the footprints match noone gives a fuck
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>>97656925
Does the height need to match?
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>>97656955
No
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>>97656955
Mhm I dunno actually I think that kind of depends on the model in question. Like I've seen people just use base cutouts for the sylvaneth woods because fuck paying money for multiple of those, but for say stuff like the seraphon pyramid that might be different. I'd say it doesn't have to be exact or anything but try to at least get it close. Kind of like how you'd treat a normal model conversion/kitbash.
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>>97656989
I see, makes sense. Would a GW store manager have a fit if I used handmade terrain equivalents instead of the official kits?
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>>97655208
AoS version of this box would probalby have 2 different monsters in it. Which is conceptually much cooler, but would make it a worse buy
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>>97656999
Depends on the manager I'd say. But I think generally stuff you build yourself is fine. It's only third party bits or stuff like that that's a problem. I wouldn't expect any managers to take issue with scratchbuild terrain though.
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>>97656999
Nice trips
YMMV, as always, but in my experience brick-and-mortar managers have no problems with hand-built terrain or manifestation (most were really interested in the hows and whys), but might frown upon 3D-prints, especially if it's a direct copy of the original.
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>>97657022
a brawl of two megas would work pretty well all the same
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>>97653061
>>97653086
>>97653097
Looks like Jav has backed the rumors, this is from the WE vs TK box rumor thread on the Discord.
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>>97657022
I feel like they would cheap out on it and just sell the knight draconis with some updated mancrushers or something instead of two big guys.
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>>97657180
Wrong thread
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>>97657180
this is hands down the worst rumormonger around
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>>97657206
Personally I think that goes to valrak because you have to listen to him speak and he dilutes his leaks with his own "rumors". I generally dont like jav either.
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>>97657220
it takes 2 minutes to sift through valrak's captions and he's clear enough when he says something comes from his source or from his ass

when was the last time that discord faggot said something clear and reliable?
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>>97657243
>when was the last time that discord faggot said something clear and reliable?
Alright you have a point there. Jav is really awful about that as well.
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Can Old World get all the Dark Elf stuff Cities of Sigmar aren't using please?
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>>97657206
Gets shit wrong often, always posts vague bullshit, basically only "leaks" things that have already been talked about by other leakers first. I genuinely don't know why this guy is taken seriously. Maybe in the past he was more credible idk but whenever I see him post stuff now it's just worthless. Like boole posts weird fucking poetry sometimes but at least he's pretty much always right and usually first.
I remember one jav posts that got shared that was something along the lines of
>legacy factions will maybe be coming, or maybe not, or maybe only some of them
>tow will probably get a second edition. at some point. soon. or maybe not. also will probably be compatible with current books. maybe. or maybe not.
>there's some stuff in the pipeline for 2026!
like this guy never says anything unless it's been confirmed by other actually reliable leakers first
probably a playtester that leaked a few rules in the early days, got high on the attention and now just vagueposts to try and maintain some relevance
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>>97657283
Sorry, dark elves are to remain in limbo in all systems for another year. Enjoy your new cauldron terrain and armored ladies.
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>>97657292
I never understood why people would think these people would want to attention whore with their leaks, but that dude for sure opened my eyes to the possibility for it.
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>>97657196
Still a decent box if not overpriced
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>>97657283
I'm pretty sure you can count the amount of CoS players using a primarily dark elf based army these days on a single hand. You can have em for all I care.
>>97657301
From what I understand his leaks come from discord which definitely paints a picture.
I do think the tk vs we box is (somehow) accurate though, since the original leak ended up being right on the money about a bunch of rule stuff. I like both factions in theory so if the models are nice I might pick it up to try out some battle march or whatever. Though I heard wood elves are kind of ass to play as and against.
But yeah javgoro "endorsing" this leak means absolutely nothing, it doesn't affect the credibility of the leak one way or another even the slightest bit
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Speaking of rumours, do we know anything about underworlds? Since spitewood dropped it was pretty much raidio silence until they randomly revealed those obr guys, and similarily nothing since then. I think it's reasonable to expect a CoS warband to coincide with the big new wave (like blood of the bull for helsmiths) but other than that, who knows.
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>>97657636
Maybe slayers?
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>>97657636
Apparently the next uw warbands is "aelves" according to tga, though they don't specify which kind. I'd assume lumineth though.
>>97657652
I think we'll probably get a khazalid warband once those guys drop yeah
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>>97657965
I hope it’s sylvaneth again. just one more.bette
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>>97657981
No more furries, please.
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>>97657994
It’ll be a furry and the 3 other flavors of (a)elves.
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>>97657994
granted
it's malerion's bara scalies
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>>97657981
>just one more kurnothi sylvaneth sidegame release bro I promise they'll catch one just one more bro
some fucking guy at the side game team just really loves his kurnothi
>>97657994
imagine though, 4 sylvaneth warbands, 3 of them furries lel
cos have 2 warbands and neither of them follow the current cos freeguild aesthetic which is quite funny too
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>>97658112
>cos have 2 warbands and neither of them follow the current cos freeguild aesthetic which is quite funny too
That’s a good thing though because cities are more varied than most other factions are supposed to be.
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>>97658112
>cos have 2 warbands and neither of them follow the current cos freeguild aesthetic
You mean the one that's Van Denst mixed with the dog guys?
Yeh 0 connection there
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>>97658048
scalies are a subtype of furry thoughbeit
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This isn't the thread I was looking for.
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This is the thread I was looking for.
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>>97658321
Lol
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There should be an army that’s scaled to 7-8mm for Aos.
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>>97658164
we're talking about underworlds here
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>THE ACCURS'D KHARADRON

>There are few species that the Omniscient One despises more than the duardin. Broadly, these grubby, graceless creatures lack any capacity for true change, their ambitions curtailed by vapid oaths of duty. Of their kind, however, the Kharadron are worthy of his interest. Unlike their terrestrial kin, these sky-duardin compete and scheme in a manner most pleasing to the Change God.

>Kharadron are still obstinate beasts, of course, and they are difficult to manipulate through illusion and implanted suggestion. Yet within their dog-eat-dog politics, there is space for my master to work his craft. My own agents patrol the docks of Barak-Zilfin's visitors' quarter gathering intelligence. Commerce practised on the scale at which the Kharadron empire operates cannot help but leave knotted threads of intrigue.

>There will come a day when all these delicate strands will unravel. The true master of Chamon will bring the duardin's sky-empire crashing down, as he did their sorpid civilisations of old. The Kharadron have sealed their fate with their continued defiance in the Aether War and their blasphemous use of magic-smothering technology .
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>>97655228
It was actually pretty sick, you got a whole extra knight for like $30 or $40
But only one of them had the warden upgrade sprue
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>>97658565
Yes. Hexbane is the existing witch hunter heroes mixed with future warcry scouts
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>>97658462
Gnomes
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>>97660140
Give Sons their Creepers and make Zeg, the Creeper King their only hero for an AoR.
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>>97660162
>Zeg, the Creeper King
Aw man!
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>>97658321
Fits oddly well
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>>97660306
>magic old man looks like magic old man
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>>97660372
Do greenskins even age?
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>>97660398
yes. during broken realms there was a short story about an old Ork who had a vision of Kragnos.
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>>97660398
yes, old orc shamans are an archetype
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>>97660372
If it ain't broke
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wtf how did GW get away with this unit
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>>97660615
It's "foid" newsoy
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Sigmar models are so good they genuinely make me question if I even want to get into 40k
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>>97660636
it's not that aos models are good, it's that marines fucking suck
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>>97660636
A part of me still wants to collect tau or catachan guard, but I’m too into sylvaneth and seraphon atm. Probably won’t have the space for anything else too.
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>>97660636
Bruh.
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>>97660705
I mean that one is pretty shit, but I was looking at models and something like this absolutely mogs like 99% of 40kshit
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>>97660705
Is there any range with a 100% hit rate?
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>>97660705
40k versions look like this
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>>97660615
If you invent a new fantasy creature like this, with the "Fomoroid", what you need is a distinctive instantly recognizable look, so the creature doesn't just look like "generic monstroid" and has a personality.

The "Fomoroid" needed a distinctive color, not this muted mess.
Blue or yellow or orange skin, or maybe pitch black if they wanted to be grittier.
Now it just looks like "some generic thing".
I get it, the "two color" variation between top and bottom was meant to be the "thing" that makes it recognizable, but it doesn't work. Not committing to a single color (nor to a pattern like dots or stripes or whatever) makes it even more generic.
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>>97660705
these are good models, they even have boob armor and sexy hips - it's a pity to lose the "naked" aesthetic but if these were the exception (only they get to wear a shirt) I'd actually be ok with it, they look "more armored" just because they have a black flannel on.

...alas they're likely the first wave of Daughters of Khaine: Burqa version, but for now, I can pretend they are an exception and enjoy it.
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>>97660758
>these are good models
Do not be a hog.
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>>97660749
>so the creature doesn't just look like "generic monstroid"
but the goal was for it to be a generic monstroid
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>>97660749
It's a Chaos Cyclops anon. It came with Chaos Sphinx and Chaos Minotaur, fallowed by Chaos Centur
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>>97660736
Kruleboyz - but that's because I like the SLAMBO Hobgrot
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>>97660705
>Posts cool models
Way to prove his point.
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>>97660758
>Burqa version
I'm sure if (You) keep saying that someone will laugh eventually.
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>>97660831
it's not a joke, nobody's laughing.
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OK I'm waiting for the punchline
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>>97660816
There are people who don't like this guy?!
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>>97660858
what's with the close up on the hand?
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>>97660620
its "fod" now
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>>97660842
There never is one.
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>>97660871
Pointing out he's showing you a middle finger with that spear through hand
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>>97660858
>goblin hero for a goblin unit

>in an army of ORCS
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if I was to make an army for open/narrative play (I'm no longer interested in matched play at all) I'd probably make a full Hobgrot army
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>>97660905
orruks
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>>97660972
Orruk high
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>>97660972
or what?
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>>97660905
It's a hobgoblin though.
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>>97660816
You don't know what Slambo is and the model is talking about is not in the Slambo pose.
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>>97661034
kind of crazy how you and the others immediately understood what model I meant with perfect accuracy
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>>97661057
how many hobgrots hero models do you think there are?
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>>97653980
And they would also get refreshes and get their own version of primaris and have a bunch of shit they don't need so their roster is bloated as fuck.

You know how GW really failed with stormcasts? Furries. They should have made a stormhost of werewolves. Call them Land Wolves, lead by Lime Pole.
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>>97655208
it only cost 140 bucks in 2017, gw would charge 275 now.
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>>97655383
wtf why are the thousand sons in age of sigmar?
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>>97661096
The Warp has many doors.
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>>97661096
That's not aos, that's chamon, look at the votann.
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>>97661066
I never said it was a hero, I just said "the slambo hobgrot"
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>>97661146
how many singular hobgrot products are there? retard
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>>97661088
>furry stormcast
God please, never this. Truly an awful combination of things, I don’t want to see wolf pelts on armor again.
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>>97660736
I can't think of a nighthaunt model I dislike. Not my favorite army but definitely consistent.
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>>97652947
Swifthawk Agent player here, I do miss them. I miss the 1e design of having a bunch of microfactions that you pulled together from the same GA. I was hoping each microfaction would get 2-3 rules, then your army could be 2-3 distinct microfaction detachments. Would feel like a Lord of the Rings battle, you have your elf detachment, your humans, etc. Then they bitched out and went back to fagtasy game design, and then they followed the 40k tourneytranny community and the game fucking sucks now
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>>97661177
it's not tournaments
it's not fantasy game designs (they actually have allies and mercenaries)

it's gw's short term economic interests favouring that new players spend as much as possible into one range, and needing to spend just as much should they want to play with another, instead of having a more approachable and flexible system of modular purchases
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>>97661150
I never said it was a singular hobgrot product
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>>97661177
First Edition my beloved
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>>97661177
1st is peak. It's why me and my mates still play it (although 2nd is probably the best the rules have ever been imo)
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>>97661151
Black Space Wolves have only improved 40k and will improve Age of Sigmar too.
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>>97661129
GW actively hates having models cross over from system to system like using 30k cultmech vehicles is disallowed in 40k admech since fires of cyraxus never came out except specifically tzaangors and tzeentch daemons can easily form the basis of a TS army. Make it make sense.
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>>97661214
You referred to a singular hobgrot, how many singular hobgrots do you think there are?
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craziest thing about hobgrots costing sixty bucks is that I got about 10 of them on ebay for like 10 bucks in 2023.
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>>97661249
It do be like dat
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>>97661203
Shut the fuck up leftroon, you freakish MTG refugees fled to wargames and inflicted the same blights upon it. The GW space is a shell of what it once was, just hordes of WAACtroons practicing for the next tournament on a shitty looking board with a shitty looking army playing a shitty looking game.
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>>97661235
2e with 1e's faction design would have been the perfect game. Sadly 40k got popular in the MTG refugee audience and AoS was retooled to follow suit.
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I was thinking the Revenants on bugs would be cool for a Qorl Empire kitbash but
>60 bucks
A little pricy for a side project, like the guy who wants to use ghouls for Khrave.
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>>97661339
>2e with 1e's faction design would have been the perfect game
TRVTH NVKE
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>>97661382
That's really cool!
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>>97660858
The price they ask for a singlehobgrot is disgusting though
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>>97661770
Standard kit comes with parts to make like 5-10 more, so go wild there
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>>97660858
He looks really plain. I'd rather use the slitta champion with the hook hand.
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>>97661770
That's crazy talk, I'm sure everyone loves paying $45 for a single goblin. (I largely stopped buying pity heroes in general for this reason, honestly)
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>>97660736
>Soulbight
Nothing I hate, but certainly a few I don't think I'd go out of my way to get. Like the Vamp lord on foot with the bat hair.
>Nurgle
Not entirely my bag, but I can't deny that the range just has hit after hit and I don't think there's anything bad there. Nurglebros eternally eating.
>Nighthaunt
They're all very samey, but pretty much everything looks good.
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>>97654763
>as someone with actual friends
No need to brag anon
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>>97660736
after templguard are gone I dont think there's much that's visually haunting seraphon. I think the flyers are generally expensive for what they are but maybe there's something in that kit that im not seeing.
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>>97662028
The Oldblood is pretty bad by modern standards. And while they aren't bad, I personally wish GW had gone full crocodile on the new Kroxigors. I love the Total War ones. I have to imagine the Skinks are up for a refresh sooner rather than later too.
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>>97654763
>as someone with actual friends
LIES
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Dead game dead general
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How long does a troggoth mating session last
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Has anyone made or seen any conversions of the Harbinger of Decay into something like a grim reaper or horseman of the apocalypse? It looks like it would make for a great herald of death/Nagash
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>>97662167
it's for life: the male troggoth latches onto the female's rear and starts mating with her until their regenerative flesh melds and the male becomes practically a sperm producing organ embedded deep into the hag's asscheeks

the hag won't seek another male until the last one has died, but more often than not her reproductive organs will have accumulated enough sperm for her to keep birthing troggothlings for the rest of her life
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>>97662174
I've seen it converted as a wight king steed but beyond that nah.
If you wanted an idea to do it just remove the nurglifciation on the model and fix it up with putty. Maybe add some chains. Also loads of purple flowers with a skull in them for basing.
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>>97662174
>into something like a grim reaper or horseman of the apocalypse
That's what it already is basically
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>>97652901
>Really want a Clan Moulder themed army - can get ogres for dirt cheap right now (£6.99 with that magazine), throw in some storm vermin and other moulder units for a fully themed list
>Always loved Clan Pestilens and said for over 2 decades now if I ever do Skaven it would be Pestilens themed

Help me decide bros. A rat army of heavy elites or horde army of stinky rats? I feel like I could easily include more variety of units for Pestilens, easier to paint them green robed and paint on a few boils than convert clanrats to have two heads and 3 arms for Moulder
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>>97662312
>Always loved Clan Pestilens and said for over 2 decades now if I ever do Skaven it would be Pestilens themed
A bit too late for that fren. All jokes aside I'd just wait for them to get updated because the models are kinda awful to work with.They'll probably get them updated sometime next edition, maybe.
With that being said ogres are good. Storm vermin...not so much.
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>>97662312
Did you know that clan pestilens, before it was known as such back when it was trying to carve a way for itself in lustria, started out as a warrior clan with a lot of bought moulder beasts under their command?

so the answer is to make a pestilens themed moulder army, with boils and religious text over the large monsters
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Why is this general so dead?
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>>97662613
Burgerbois starting WW3, UKucks falling apart, no one has time to shitpost.
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>>97662613
Life for me.
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>>97662613
depression
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>>97662613
too busy painting
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>>97662613
>reveal happens
>faggot tourists flood in
>regulars decide to wait it out
>faggots left, but regulars aren't back yet
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>>97662613
AoS was fucking slaughtered by 3e, 4e is zombie AoS
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>>97662613
Idk /whfg/ is WAAAY more active for some reason and its really bumming me out
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>>97662613
I’m at work.
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>>97662685
This.
What is there to be excited about?
Last book was trash. We have two more books being rushed out and they don't have much hope that they won't suck.
We have had no hint from GW about the next GHB, but it has to really shake things up because it's already stale as fuck, but we know it's going to be a heavy 40k quarter starting in June and going through the winter
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>>97662613
New DoK unit was shown off, place will be unusable for the next week or so.
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>>97662613
We're waiting for the interesting reveal, the cockfort
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>>97662216
>the hag won't seek another male until the last one has died, but more often than not her reproductive organs will have accumulated enough sperm for her to keep birthing troggothlings for the rest of her life
Anglerfish don't seek out males, males seek out the anglers and they can have dozen ballsacks attached to them at once
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>>97662748
Trolls aren't anglerfish, m8
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>>97662755
They actually are, Tolkien spoke of this
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>>97662174
Just put a skull head on him and paint the horse white
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>>97662771
That was Lovecraft
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>>97662796
I don't think Tolkien was talking about Lovecraft
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>>97662613
Slow generals are and have always been better than most active ones. I'll take what we have here any day over decalfag or perryfag spergouts. Now fuck off.
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>>97662613
4th edition has tanked the popularity of AoS combined with TOW returning. It’s the perfect storm for AoS declining unfortunately
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>>97662835
Perryfag barely posts anymore it's mostly a poor copycat

Decalfag can fuck right off
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>>97662843
Don't samefag your stale bait, niggerfaggot.
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>>97662846
>Perryfag barely posts anymore
did revealing himself as a manlet break him completely lmao
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>>97662863
perryfag "revealed" himself as a manlet years ago, he didn't care, neither did /wfg/. It's not news. What perryfag did was absolutely mindbreak some troon who posts him about 24/7
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>>97662904
OK perryfag
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>>97662904
Lmao midget man it’s been a while since we’ve seen you in /wfg/. Running SHORT on patience with us?
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>>97662843
Reality seems to disagree with you
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>>97662951
>getting outsold by battletech
Bro that's fucking hilarious you only need 4 minis to play a full game and you can get a starter box with like 8 of them for 60 bucks and it STILL outsells aos
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>>97662968
your dead game is not even in the top 10 LMAO
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>>97662951
>citing a list that surveys 12 stores in the USA
lmao
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>>97662951
This is as valid as linking a Lord of War video where they talk about AoS drying up completely between releases despite trying to keep a community alive.
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>>97662951
Fake news
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>>97662986
Height doesn't mean anything if you waste it by being since lanky ass nerd that can't even grow facial hair and who looks like they'll catch on fire the second sunlight touches their skin
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>>97662986
>TWO cuck chairs
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>>97662986
Nigga posting from your hobbit hole doesn't prove anything
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>>97662986
This looks like the kind of apartment that governments give to poor people
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>>97662986
Most European looking room to ever exist.
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Why do people feel the need to become lolcows. Especially here. Isn’t that what kiwi farms and reset aura or whatever it’s called for? It just feels pointless to do so here.
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>>97662986
Bosnians aren't European Hamza
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>>97662986
You could tell me that this is a room for mental retards in a care center and I'd believe you
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>>97663015
Some people can't help themselves.

It happened to Manly Tears
It happened to Quentin
It happened to Perryfag
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>>97663019
It looks like a dorm room in Bosnia/Serbia/Bulgaria/ some other third tier balkan country
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>>97662986
>Euro height king
Now do this with nothing on.
NOWDOTHISWITHNOTHINGON.
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>Metafagging
Losers
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>>97663035
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>>97663015
In the before times people had normal social lives and the internet was not necessary and not used for socialising in the most basic sense, now more and more cattle people are deprived of meaningful social interactions and instead are driven to desperate lengths to scratch the parts of their brains begging for at least some surrogates for the fundamental social behaviours: making friendly noises, sharing things, and being seen and establishing a hierarchy
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>>97662986
>Im a 6'3 European
I dunno, that tubby muffin top would make any American proud.
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No way he actually live like that? Right? It's some shitty 1 nigth stay hotel he got for cheap. Surely nobody who's living standards are that 3rd world talks about expensive hobby like warhammer
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>>97663062
>spend 500 euros a month to live with some random retard, probably a Colombian or pajeet
or
>live for free in your grandmother's old apartment, use saved money to buy Warhams instead
which would you choose anon?
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>>97663076
He's Spanish he can't afford warhammer anyway. One of those no games no models retards that shit up the thread
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>>97663076
Get a real job and rent a flat by yourself. It's not that hard
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>>97663112
>It's not that hard
It is in Europe.
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>>97663116
it isnt.
t. euro
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>>97663124
He lives in a literal socialist shithole. Spain has fallen hard.
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>>97662986
nigga lives in a roadside motel that has not been renovated since the 80s
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>>97663116
Western Europe has negligable rent prices compared to wages. In Eastern Europe everyone owns a house or two (especially now with the demographic downturn and mass emigration west, after all the boomers were given free houses by comies pumping GDP)
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>>97660736
sylvaneth if you exclude side game shit.
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>>97663112
It is in Spain
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>>97663338
The men of Spain are either drop dead gorgeous or subhumaningly ugly.
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>>97660736
Seraphon too, probably why seraphon is so popular
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Seraphon are based af.
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>>97663465
Not yours though they look like shit
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>>97663469
I like 'em <3
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You shouldn't be allowed to buy/use contrastslop until you can demonstrate you can basecoat and highlight decently with normal paints.
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>>97663465
I see you've collected three of the seven Chaos Lizards.
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>>97663465
Contrast slop
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>>97663465
>>97663469
>>97663491
These are gaming pieces. Looks good to me.
Not winning a best painted but done better than most stuff I see at events.
I'd cool with looking at these for a couple hours of gaming.
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>>97663521
>I'd cool with looking at these for a couple hours of gaming.

Except you're a no games.
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>>97663521
>These are gaming pieces
The first and last refuge of the contrastslopper
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>>97663521
Thanks man. I need to do the three armour bits on Kro-Jax's tail but other than I'm happy with them.
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>>97663527
Play at least one casual game or more a week.
1 to 2 events a month.
Painted 80+ models in 2026.

You will never hobby on my level.
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>>97663540
>painted 80+ models in 2026
>look inside
>it's all contrast sloppa
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>>97663465
I'm going to call you a contrastslopper. Not because I want to hurt your feelings. But because I want you to be pushed into learning how to paint and gaining pride from actually painting rather than slopping.
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>>97663565
There's only a few contrasts worth using. The rest have a shitty finish to them.
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>>97663465
Top left blue dude, what color is that please?
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What's with the seething at contrast paint
Is it just a "it's too easy it doesn't count" type situation
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>>97663644
Mostly because people don't know how to use it effectively and just slop it on a model hence contrast slop
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>>97663690
Isn't that how they're pretty much supposed to be used?
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>>97663703
That's how GW markets them so that sloppers afraid to paint buy contrast paints
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>>97663703
They should be used to lay down a quick base coat with built in highlights. They you use regular paint to actually ad the detail and cover the guaranteed splotches.
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>>97663977
Also to actually highlight as well for most contrast paints.
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If I print proxies I need some kind of limiting factor to stop me from, making a god deck right? Only uncommons? No mythics?
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>>97664163
>>97658270
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I know there's at least 1 Blades of Khorne dude here, so lemme confirm my suspicion:

>go to combat phase
>activate Bloodmaster for combat
>use his Blood Must Flow Ability to make a Bloodletter unit fight
>Bloodletters are Daemons, and then can trigger the Butchers of Nations from the Khornate Legions Battle Formation
>Bloodbound (mortal) unit is targeted for the ability, meaning they can swing right after

I don't see anything that says this isn't a valid sequence for events. 3 combats for the price of 1, right?
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>>97664441
Yes

Also I don't get why people jack off over godeaters son i thought it was mid af
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>>97662167
>>97662216
Contrary to popular belief the hag's sacks are not mammaries, but the remains of two male river troggoths who succesfully mated with the hag.
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>>97663637
Talassar blue over army painter matt white :)
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>>97660736
Seraphon, StD before the darkoath addition, maybe soulblight if you ignore sidegame stuff.
I'm personally not the biggest fan of the end times/ 1st edition aos nurgle aesthetic but if you are that's also a fantastic range
Now personally I think idoneth are all kinooo but that's probably not an opinion shared by most of you kek. Oh, I guess not 100% since the soulrender looks ass
>>97664609
Tbf 'mid' compared to the rest of black library instantly lands you in the top 10
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By the way, everyone's favourite rumourslopper posted some rules yesterday. Would've shared them earlier but the jannies banned me for a day for making fun of an obvious bait thread because of course they did
Anyway, looks like the archknight gallants are 2 wounds, and cogfort is going to be able to transport units, and the gargant unit has a cannon on their platform, which kind of sounds like a optional build thing? and a bunch of other stuff in picrel.
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>>97665236
Cool. Not sure how i feel about this form of GW marketing, but it's better than silence
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>>97665371
I think on the whole rumourmongers are more likely to be legit rather than some gw intern but boole is definitely raising my eyebrows a bit on that front.
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>>97665385
Neh i'm a firm believer of the fake rumour ecosystem theory.
As in the rumour are real, but they aren't leaks, they are coordinated announcments
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>>97665488
Some definitely are, like boole is pretty suspicious and I'm like 90% fatrsk is used by gw to drum up hype, but there's some genuine bonafide leaks too.
When horus heresy got a bunch of their 3rd edition rules leaked the leaker wrote a bunch of slurs everywhere. Unless gw is telling their marketing team to go full local I think that one was genuine.
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>>97665498
>horus heresy got a bunch of their 3rd edition
You mean 2nd? Or did they churn through it extra fast?
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>>97665236
I really want to know more about the coatl
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>>97665505
I don't actually know. The one that started last summer. I think that's third?
>>97665511
I think it was kind of implied that a skink hero would be riding on it. Though maybe that's people misreading different rumours and getting them confused.
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>Cogshit instead of Order of Azyr and devoted
>Ugly ass flagellant models that may as well be sold with TOW branding for how obvious the inevitable squat is
>TOW gets the War Altar back despite the Hurricanum never leaving
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>>97665657
You will get one (1) warpriest, now be happy
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>>97665657
Good. More cogfoppery and whimsy, less potato sacks.
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>>97665657
the hurricanum is leaving
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>>97665657
>Cogshit instead
Cogfort is THE most hyped model in CoS history. I'm shocked and baffled it wasn't here last edition
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>>97665736
This release could make or break the cities of sigmar

If cogfort, foot knights and bardiche gunners are good, then the faction will attract a flood of guardfags from 40k
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>>97665732
Is it? Fits better with CoS than it ever did with empire desu.
>>97665751
Definitely more or an elite feeling wave. I don't know about guard players but I do think the "normal humans" niche has been underutilized in sigmar so far, I can see it doing very well.
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/871suqbd/blood-hags-lead-the-charge-in-new-daughters-of-khaine-battletome/
What he fuck is with this censorship compared to the older models? Lmao it looks so blatant and doesn't thematically work with them at all.
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>>97665895
>slowpoke.jfif
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>>97665895
>doesn't thematically work with them at all.
Marinetard go home
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>>97665895
It's for nothing but good goy points
they could have painted the models as wearing a skintight suit without the need of having any suit detail sculpted, giving as much freedom as possible to the hobbyists, but instead they had to add those details to force people to paint them one way and one way only
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>>97665895
Can't risk little timmy or his mom walking into a store and getting turned off by women in bikinis
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>he is trying again
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Speaking of little Timmy. Paint is rebranded because being put on a rack that shows it being used on a Space Marine isn’t enough.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/okgv4njl/citadel-colour-is-becoming-warhammer-colour/
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>>97666159
MESBGbros
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>>97666159
How many years until gw renames itself to Warhammer Workshop?
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>>97666215
Games Warhammer
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>>97665895
>>97665949
>>97666020
But god forbid you speak up and say anything otherwise you're a gooner who wants to jack off to plastic minis.
Not that speaking up about shitty GW decisions and model releases has ever done anything anyway...
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>>97666159
Sad. I had a lot of fond memories with a "bootleg" GW store calling itself Citadel. Only time i saw an LGS here with wargame focus instead of card spam
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>>97666159
Who's the business school retard who suggested this? They should be caned.
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>We don’t have too many factions left to dig into, and who knows where we’ll go from there? Here’s a hint: it rhymes with… Uh… Bigmar.
From the latest "art throughout the years" article from warcom. I don't know if anyone cares about this stuff but looks like they're going to fo it for AoS factions too.
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>>97666286
Clearly they're talking about Pigmar
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>>97666286
I would care more if all the art JPEGs didn't have an ugly Citadel community logo in the corner, or if the artist's signature were scrubbed out as well.
This old Eldar pic being one of the few were I don't think that was the case
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>>97666286
>rhymes with… Uh… Bigmar
Mala-mar? SHADE ELFS COBFIRMED
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The Arcanite looting of old elf shit in Hysh seems to be a developing plot thread since Arcane Cataclysm. It's informing their actions in Settler's Gain and has escalated into the War of Shame in Iliatha, so this is playing out on at least two continents.
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>>97666390
Funnies bit of lore is bunch of Kairics finding a Death Note and using it on themselves
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>>97666390
So much sadness in one frame
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>>97652901
Soon
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>>97666443
>mr fusil-major, get down!
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When will they make AOS paint?
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>>97666552
Oh he's going down alright.
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>>97666577
Orruk Flesh
Nighthaunt Gloom
Stormhost Silver
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>>97666436
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>>97666390
For a second there I thought thr tzaangor in the front left had a chainsword from the 40k sprue lel.
Would be a fun champion weapon option honestly, and if anyone could justify it, it would be tzeentch.
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>>97666159
Literally who cares
>>97666283
It was idiotic the naming wasn't consistent for this wrong.
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>>97666215
They want to just rename themselves Warhammer
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>>97666020
Little timmy was priced out of Warhammer long ago
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>>97665511
What about the coat. What did they say. That monster has been teased for fucking years
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>>97663469
Extremely based and correct
Like why is it so shiny
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>>97666806
Not his mom though.
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>>97663465
Did you just not notice that the red dude has stuff all over his tail, that you just slipped on the contrast you used for skin?
I mean you did the guards on his hands... It's just another coat of gold paint, would have taken like 30 seconds.
Just comes off as lazy
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>>97666822
Mommy is going to take one look at the hideous people in the store and just walk right out
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>>97666806
>>97666822 is right
You'd be surprised. Though I will say I think launch boxes like skaventide are getting too big and pricey for people not already sure they want to play the game. Then again that's what the smaller starter boxes are for, y'know the ones with 5 liberators and 10 clanrats that sort of stuff.
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>>97665895
>Lmao it looks so blatant and doesn't thematically work with them at all.
And it shouldn't
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>>97666794
There's something to say for long term brand recognition.
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>>97666854
>And it shouldn't
Why should a unit within an army not thematically match with the rest of the army?
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>>97667391
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>>97667083
Because it's not truth.
Aesthetically unit matching rest of the army, it doesn't matching only WHFB leftovers.



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