Previous: >>97678634>Most recent banlist updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.comhttps://www.pdhrec.com>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed)>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: Post weird cards that you like to run
Fuck it, I think I'm finally going to build it, any techs I should keep in mind?
>>97687004Lands. Also, card draw.
>>97687007I'm going to touch you in your sleep
>>97687021Awww yiss.
UNBAN MY ZESTY ELF YOU WOTC FUCKS!
>>97687050No, fuck green.
>>97687050Only if I get my paradoxical boy back.
>>97687050>reserved listZero chance bud
>>97687004anything that makes tokens at a better rate than 2mana/body is a discountcard draw darn youthe tokens have a weird statline that makes them feel significantly better with double strikeremember to pack artifact and enchantment removal so you aren't relying on the edict effect going off five times in one turnyou can throw down some goofy instant/sorcery copying while extus is still sleeved in the front and then take the one guy who hasn't heard of it by surprise.since it's extus in every zone but the stack, every return-to-command-zone SBA is a 'creature leaving the graveyard' syr konrad trigger, on top of all the other creatures dying, if you feel like running him.everyone uses assemble the legion, but it's a bit slow in my experienceextra combats are nice, especially if you go the route of mobilize tokensyou're in the colors for all the attack trigger doublers, use themI felt something like rionya would work great, but I never drew her. on a good turn you will end up with like five or more casts, so empty the warrens is probably playable (I didn't)
>>97687115>since it's extus in every zone but the stack, every return-to-command-zone SBA is a 'creature leaving the graveyard' syr konrad triggerSee this is the type of shit I was looking for, didn't think about that being the case.
Cards post fire design are a plague. Every creature now has an etb, sorceries are meaningless, each creature now has to generate infinite value and are kill on sight or lose the game. I hate it.
>>97687225Well, go do something else I guess.
>>97687225But if you think about it FIRE wouldnt exist if EDH didnt exist so really blame sheldon
>>97687250But Sheldon didnt make EDH and that isnt true.>>97687225Spells also get fire design doe
>>97687268Sheldon is the godfather and that's why he got a card and adam staley didnt, and sheldon is also why rhystic study will never be banned
>>97687287Are you aware what a godfathers relation to a creation is anon...?
>>97687225bye. we love it here
>>97687225If every creature has an ETB why didn't Hushbringer spike in price? Checkmate athiests.
>>97687225>Noo, good cards are ruining my fun!Too bad.
>zoomers rush to defend the objective degradation of a productLike clockwork really.
>>97687348You have to understand they're the new target demographic that will cope and say Vivi isn't too strong for bracket 2. If the commander isn't setup and payoff with immediate value, they'll find it too hard to play.
>>97687356>>97687348
>>97687356It's not. Your attitude and low level of deck building while wanting everyone to cater to you is the issue.
>>97687356That's right, we're not going to let you do the thing
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>97687225There's always PreDH if you can convince a bunch of disgruntled oldheads to play it.
>>97687445Silence, brazilian
Wow. Turns out I have a card that doesnt exist. Neat.
>>97687367I agree playing Rhystic Study on 2 is the pinnacle of skill.
>>97687457You're thinking of premodern.
>>97687463Yes just as sheldon intended
>>97687463Your sarcasm betrays your low level of skill. Study is just worse sphere of resistance a lot of time, particularly if you arent drawing into free answers.
>>97687492Can you post one of your decklists so we can see what good deckbuilding looks like? It would make this discussion far easier.
>>97687521Not him but no matter what is posted you'll call it shit just to simply keep this argument going, we already know this song and dance anon
>>97687521Anonymous always delivers. What do I get for doing this? I would like a moratorium on all complaining and one of your lists in return. Deal?
>>97687566Sure. I am not the sarcastic anon you replied to however. I am just interested in looking at your decklist. I feel like you know things that I do not know.
>>97687004Pic related goes unexpectedly hard. I thought it might be overcosted for what it does but every time I've played it, it accelerates my game significantly.Pair it with any of the white spells that say pay X to make X tokens and suddenly you have way more Avatars than you could ever make by hard casting the commander
>>97687596Probably, I'm old and autismal as shit. Give it a couple minutes to see if complainy bad at magic anon agrees to shut up about it.
>>97687608When copying a spell you can copy the other side of a flipper?
>>97687367>low level of deckbuilding >as he champions changes where every deck builds itselfZoomers cannot help themselves. Perfect corpocucks>>97687566>>97687611The lies on top of everything is too funny.
>>97687685Son what in the fuck are you talking about? Mirrormind doesnt copy spells
>>97687685it doesn't work on spell copying. if you would make a token, like a 1/1 soldier, instead make a <whatever the equipped creature is>.so you have the crown on a blood avatar, then cast Increasing Devotion, you make 5 blood avatars.
>>97687714your deck is shit
>>97687709Bro is replying to posts from the future
>>97687691Are you going to post your list and shut up when I do? I assure you I'm old enough to have a mortgage and pay taxes and shit. What would you consider to be good, just as a baseline that you cant wiggle out of.
>>97687717I saw that. The fuck happened there?
>>97687703>>97687685Ohhh, I am a little less of a moron now. Thank you.
>>97687691>is that all you know? Spam strong moves in a pvp fighting game?>is that all you know? Use busted cards in a pvp card game?SCRUBCRUB
God I hate zoomers so much bros.
>Nomura didn't even like the source material reprintsFucking embarrassing.
>>97687818>Nomura didnt like his own artHAHAHAHHAHA
>>97687719>5 posts about how old he is and how hes totally going to post a list>has done this every thread hes called out in>has never ever posted a listLol>>97687755What are you even trying to say anon? This has absolutely no relation to my post. Its not about power, which I never even approached, its bragging about deckbuilding skills in an environment where decks build themselves. This only needed to be spelled out if youre an actual retard btw you sure showed me anon!
>>97687818this is just being an artist
>>97687818Artists are so fucking retarded>draw soul>AHHHH ACTUALLY ITS SHIT ITS SHIT ITS SHIT
>>97687880>it's not about power>also anyone saying vivi isnt too strong for bracket 2 is a coping zoomer because FUCK vivi it pubstomps meLol
>>97687818What a retard, I wonder if amano says the same about his art of ff5, the bartz one tempted me to build a winota deck
>>97687880The hidden card is lightning bolt. Go on, I built this for a request, I could give a fuck about avatar.
>I liked the concept of equipment, but never had an equipment I really liked>even Sunforger, an excellent card I've used in my primary deck all the way back since before EDH even existed and the deck was just 60 cards, failed to stir any strong emotions in me>started to resent Boros being pushed as the "equipment matters" colors>sets go by with tons of red/white cards that care about equipment, but no equipment that I'm interested in>buster sword>it's wonderful>put it into my favorite deck, and it brutalizes everyone>my deck shifts and becomes centered around it>I now have seven equipment tutors just for it>doublestrikers, double combats, double triggers, all just to make the Buster Card shineThe funny thing is that if the Buster Sword gets removed, the deck actually becomes stronger, because then I just tutor up other equipment that reacts to whatever the current board state is, including the aforementioned Sunforger that can just silver bullet everything.
>>97687788They really are insufferable in an uncharming way.
>>97688067>no protection>no evasion
>>97688111That's what the other equipment are for.
>>97688012quenchy
>>97688012I see you.
>>97687913Logically one would assume i did not make that post if I claimed to not be talking about power? What an absurd thing to "lie" about when the proof would be right there.>>97688012>no link>shitty screenshotPretty much as bad faith as I expected.>>97688128>>97688209Embarrassing same fagging too lmao
>>97688225But what do you think of the list? Where is yours?
>>97687958Most of Amano's art on the bonus sheet is gorgeous and well chosen. Dark Ritual, Chomatic Lantern, Cryptic Command, WoL Jodah, Konrad Golbez, and Firion Sram are my favorites. I have the bonus sheet Golbez in foil and it justified foils for me again.
>>97688238That golbez looks so good in foil its unreal
>>97688225>this has absolutely no relation to my post>get caught>W8 FUCK IT'S ACTUALLY NOT MY POSTkekw keep schizoing out scrub
I miss Swordbro
I really like hidden phallic imagery in MTG cards. There are tons of them too.
>>97688296I am a dick expert and where are you seeing a dick in that image?
>>97688306> he doesnt know
Does anyone have that "Maro always lies" image?
>>97688306NTA but look at that wrist.
>>97688306Here is a more apparent one since you're blind.
>>97688296>I really like hidden phallic imagery in MTG cards. There are tons of them too.Enough to make a B1 dick deck?
>>97688319>>97688323Sasuga... I let you all down with my dick spotting.
>https://moxfield.com/decks/IKXVilvf5EG0bZdiXmv24wHow is it looking?I have a long list of cards that could work on the deck:>https://moxfield.com/decks/dcNtMRptBUiVn7pYK8Vo0wBut for now I'm focusing on these cards, as I think they´re more important.>https://moxfield.com/decks/koi2XcRYm0qlCWS0zmKGjAany thoughts? shit's expensive, so I'm buying first the cheapest ones, but kinda want to buy the core ones first
>>97688336i dont see it but im suddenly aroused
>>97688359>SasugaI think you meant to type sausage.
hello, I really wanna build the red Kratos but it's stupidly expensive. people in my lgs said I can't proxy because some don't have any self restrains if they get to proxy. I don't feel Kratos is that strong though or am I misunderstanding?
>>97688461Just proxy him anyway
>>97688461They think there is a correlation between dollars spent and deck power, so your store is being snooty to gatekeep the relative power level low. It has nothing to do with your deck, rather the money people at the store have spent. Dont take it personal.
>>97688351>>97688359>>97688454I'd make a sexual deviant deck for sure with them.
>>97688461>some don't have any self restrains if they get to proxycorrect and even you can't refute that>kratos is $44 dollarsshow decklist so i can tell you that you are, in fact, very much willing to spend $44 on cardboard
>>97688498Dont shitpost a guy. You didnt even look at the last decklist you asked for.
>>97688497>I'd make a sexual deviant deck for sure with them.who would be the coomander
Who are some based conservative artists in the game? I hear they ran Therese out. Who is left?
>>97688502i'm not zoomerschizo i don't blame zoomers for mistakes made by millenials
>>97688510Just keep it to yourself, demanding decklists without sharing your own is a bad look.
>>97688503Probably the sexiest 5-colore commander to play all the cards.
>>97688508Steve Argyle is based. He makes his women really, really attractive. So attractive that WotC had to get one of the most popular cards of all time redone and dressed down because muh beauty.
>>97688461>I can't proxy Yes anon, yes you can. https://bootlegmage.com/product/kratos-god-of-war-sld-full-art-2207/
>>97687004I tried to build it but it just turned into an abdel deck
>>97687004Is the strat literally just "create 50 creature tokens and recast it over and over?" Because I don't see how else you're gonna pull this off
>>97688461Don't proxy, just counterfeit and tell nobody. You made yourself kind of obvious asking about it beforehand, but nobody is going to check your shit with a loupe unless you try trading like an actual scumbag.
>>97688237>but what do you think of the unreadable lostI think its unreadable.
>>97688284>lie about thing that is easily provenI get you are retarded and dishonest, but i am not.
>>97689218It's perfectly readable even phone posting you faggot. It'd like 1000x4000 pixels Learn how this website works.
Absolutely should not be a game changer I don't know who the child that hates it is I just hope they leave
>Be last in turn order>Guy puts omniscience on the stack>Asks for reactions>Everyone passes>Gets to me>Look at my hand>Look at my lands>Tap two lands>Say, "omniscience resolves">Guy tells me that's bad manners and stink eyes me for the rest of the gameJoyless pricks at the lgs tonight.
>>97689493I do that same "sike" trick at people and haven't ran into anyone like that. Tell him I said "Go get a personality, faggot."
>>97689536I will if I see him again. I'm going to call you Big Slim Jim though when I pass it along.
Slow day, Post a commander of yours someone at your LGS told you would either be trash, or wouldn't be good to run.
Second deck I built when I was starting to get into commander.Went to an LGS to look at singles, guy asks me what I was building, told him. Simply said "Don't." in response.
>>97689558What do you do against removal such as Oubliette? I can tell you what the guy running Ojer in our store did. Constantly whine until someone popped a board wipe including enchantments enabling him to win two turns later. The guy never showed up at the store ever since.
>>97689470Yeah I was surprised at it's status too. It's always been known as a strong card, but even back in early EDH it wasn't considered one of the best cards of the format.
>>97689493This is just good natured fun. Dont sweat it anon, some people are dicks.
>>97689558can't say ive ever had anyone say my commander sucks, usually people gas everything up in my area
>>97689575as just a card in the 99 it's not badissue comes when people build their decks around reliably getting it out turn 2 then tokenspamming away every other artifact and enchantment
>>97689590that is not a strong gameplan, how about building your deck to win a game instead?
>>97689016it's just pirate giant but worse FACT
>>97689591you can easily build a deck with a solid win plan, not like green-white decks that shit out creatures is something that doesn't win gamesand sure dealing with that isn't too hard either if you have a well built deckwhich is why the card is not banned, it's just a game changer, it means your average bracket 3 deck should be able to handle someone getting aura shards out early, but they also don't want someone building a gimmicky bracket 1 or generic bracket 2 deck to have to deal with itand it's not like it's something that's particularly interesting as a card either, it's repeatable destruction that triggers off of the thing your deck was going to do anyways just play bracket 3 and up if you want to use it, nothing wrong with that
>>97689016What's your problem?
>>97689616this card is better than shards most of the time, because reliably producing a shit ton of tokens is set up and your opponents can just wait until shards is removed to play their cardsbut in typical edh fashion, gameplay where saving resources rather than windmill tardslamming on curve is optimal is "unfun" and "toxic" and thus we need to regulate it away rather than learn how to play magic the gathering
>>97689625I mean, there's artifact themed precons that flat out don't have enchantment destruction in them, you play aura shards against those and you just win off of 1 cardjust waiting until it's removed is fine for bracket 3 but remember bracket 2 is where you're going up against unupgraded precons really, I doubt anyone in this thread even plays at anything less than B3 anyways which is where game changers are allowed
>>97689641maybe they should just remove the source of creatures then?
>>97689647the only way to remove the source of creatures in a green/white deck is by removing the player, they're not just suddenly going to stop playing creatures what so ever
>>97689653one removed permanent per turn aint shit, even assuming this guy is just 100% tunnelling on you when he has two other opponents.
>>97689470They made this a game changer? Holy lmao artifacts fags absolutely cannot stand anyone fucking with their giant pile of treasure
>>97689668a creature centric green/white deck is getting more than 1 creature out per turn and you know it, like even your most generic token generator is already 2 creaturesand again you can just play aura shards in bracket 3 where most decks will have an answer to aura shards, but in bracket 2 it can just lock down someone pretty aggressively if they're bringing a mediocre precon to the game, which they will because that's the bracketLike if you say that fade from history is better than aura shards, why not just replace aura shards with fade from history, it's not a game change and you said it's better, so why not just play it?
>>97689693>replace aura shards with fade from history,I do because aura shards isn't as strong as fade from history, and sure as hell isn't worth a GC slot
>>97689697They made this a game changer? Holy lmao combo fags absolutely cannot stand anyone fucking with their giant pile of solitaire
>>97689697it's worth a GC slot because bracket 2 decks can recover from it being played if they're played well, but if your deck just doesn't have a way of dealing with aura shards, it losesit's persistent denial and that's why it's a GC, no different from any of the other persistent denial cards on the GC listI mean there's people in this thread who have repeatedly argued that glacial chasm doesn't deserve to be on the GC list either
>>97689725>but if your deck just doesn't have a way of dealing with aura shards, it loses>presumed artifact/enchantment based gameplan that has no protection
>>97689707You seem to have gotten so upset that you responded to the wrong post. Understandable, don't be too embarrassed and try to compose yourself before replying next time.
>>97689725Dont make shit up anon. That's silly.
>>97689728>presumed artifact/enchantment based gameplan that has no protectionYes like I said before, there's plenty of artifact/enchantment precons without enchantment removal in themit doesn't mean they're good decks, but it does mean they're bracket 2 decks, and yes if you're upgrading your precon adding stuff like that when you know aura shards exists is a must, and well that's bracket 3, upgraded precon, and you can play aura shards in ita lot of precons have blind spots against persistent cards like that, either no or else no good way of dealing with them and people who play pure precons are usually newer
>>97689740That entire explaination is pulled straight from your ass to justify something you dont really understand.
>>97689747it's literally the entire justification behind game changers, can your average precon deal with these cards or notthat's what bracket 2 is, and that's why I'm like 99% sure nobody here actually plays bracket 2, because it's meant to be the place where newer players bring out their precons and can be expected to have a fun game
>>97689574I run sword of feast and famine and ALWAYS have it anon
>Planning out attacks>Someone asks how much damage they're taking before I've finished my declare attackers phaseI don't know why, but this always immediately makes me irrationally angry.
>>97689757No. Why would you think that? And rather than insulting the whole general, maybe stop making shit up instead.
I think the average deck always runs Return To Dust if they can personally
>>97689766I'm not insulting the general, saying most people here play bracket 3 and above or equivalent is not an insult, it's in fact the opposite of it because B2 is the place where people who don't engage at all in deck building go, and by the very nature of being in this thread you at least enjoy building your own decksaying someone can't handle anything above B2 would be the actual insultBut I'll ask a general question to everyone here, how often do you play a game where game changers are flat out banned with no exceptions?
>>97689757yes the average precon can deal with a single enchantment that doesnt even win the game on the spot, and doesnt even destroy your shit on the spot because your shit needs to be on the field, they need to land creatures afterwards, and they need to succesfully target your shit. if you don't understand how those things aligning is rare enough to make its inclusion as a GC stupid, you're stupid. it's like saying warstorm surge should be a GC because it's persistent creature denial (and potentially a wincon!!)
>>97689770Too many people are playing b3 when they should be playing b2
>>97689558Ojer does kind of suck. But heres mine
>>97689770None personally. If i'm playing with just friends then we pick whatever deck we want to play. If we're playing casual at the LGS, then we usually ask what power level is ok.
>>97689016Actually I plan on paying for it with no discounts at all. I also enjoy flattening my nuts with a large rock.
>>97689770Anon the brackets have nothing to do with power level. They have different banlists. And bracket 1 is for casuals. Bracket 2 is just no game changers and a few meta rules. You made up everything else.
i know spelltable players are all cheaters so I just pretend like i had this in opening hand every time i see two sol ring starts.
>>97689740>a lot of precons have blind spots against persistent cards like thatSo when are all the versions of Grave Pact and Attrition hitting the list?
>>97689778the game hasn't been powercrept to the point yet that precons come out of the gate with reliable hexproof on every single artifact they playalso you're comparing a 6 mana card to a 3 mana card, you think warstorm surge would be a fair card at 3?
>>97689802you don't fucking need reliable hexproof on every single artifact you play retard. a 3 mana enchantment destroying your arcane signet after then dropping a creature (2 cards 4+ mana) is not backbreaking, you're bad at the game. grow the fuck up.
>>97689798bracket 2 is literally described as precon level, the entire intention behind it is to be the home of precons, it's also a casual bracketsomewhere between 3 and 4 is the level at which commander is envisioned to be played and game changers are fine in those
>>97689806a 3 mana enchantment removing your artifact creature commander 4 turns in a row is pretty backbreaking though
>>97689573I am a boros man.I love that art.But a creature that is conditionally indestructible is just not that exciting to me, since even a guy who is always indestructible never did much for me despite running him for quite some time.
>>97689779I'm playing BG3
>>97689810WAAAAHHH SOMEONE KEEPS USING SINGLE TARGET REMOVAL ON ME SPECIFICALLY WAHHHHH
>>97689787
>>97689820...you do know right there's a pretty wide gulf of power difference between a tap ability with a cost on a 1 toughness creature vs an enchantment triggering every time a creature enters right? Like I really hope nobody has to explain that to you
>>97689810Yes, having all your rocks blown up constantly is also annoying, and voltron decks are completely dead in the water.>>97689816Oh, I like her because her indestructible can be moved to other things. Its "dynamic" atleast to my peabrain.
>>97689828I'm quite upset they're indestructible counters rather than divinity counters.
>>97689833Would have been nice yeah, but it is what it is.
What is a card you play in a deck, but you hardly use but it's won you a game before. Pic related.>be me>Playing Gisela, Blade of Goldnight>doing well, about to win thanks to True Conviction and swords equipped giving me 26 life per swing>only Seizan, Perverter of Truth player left, after making everyone draw 3 extra cards a turn and taking damage for it>he cast Living Finale a turn before and then Rise of the Dark Realms this turn taking all my creatures in my graveyard and his and then swings for what would be lethal if I didn't have Gisela up.>about to die >draw Homeward Path>take all my creatures back>swing for basically 100+ so lethal
>>97689573Nothing wrong with making suboptimal decks for your wife.
>>97689947Jon Irenicus with Homeward Path and Reins of Power. If I draw into one of them it's a fucking blast. If I don't then oh well I got to create a bunch of chaos
>>97689965Kek. Nice. Makes me want to build a black/blue theft deck.
>>97689616This is the most reasonable post I've seen in this general in weeks.
>borderpost cycle is only ally colorsSad, I would run more in decks with land tax and tithe if I could.
Is aloy or Naya toph better as a less traditional artifact deck?
>>97690021Only simic deck I would ever play.
>>97690021
>>97689969>theft deck.Troon strat
>>97690053I WILL be building loki
>>97690053>He can't beat one of the weakest archetypes
>>97690058Peak troonAlso>god of lies>red>not dimirWhat were they thinking?>>97690062Oh you're that same retard from the Markov argument who knowingly misrepresents people as saying something is strong when they clearly just said it's unpleasant to play against
>>97690065So stomp them out of the game. Oh right, you just scoop like ever other whiny dipshit.>Troon>Goes schizo modeTruly pathetic.
>>97690065>the "bad guy" isnt dimir or grixis for once>why isnt the bad guy dimir?!
>>97690058Gay.>>97690074kek, you're that guy- er, "gal" who sperged out at "troondrazi" a thread or two ago aren't you? And started crytyping about flat earth conspiracies. Wonder how a creature like you wound up here.
>buy turtle precon>upgrade it only with cards for the set and cheap lands>actually does really wellDidn't expect to beat bracket 3 and 4 decks. Cowabunga dudes
>>97690074Just play your own cards. I don't get why you're having such a temper tantrum.>>97690079I'm sorry anon but control of information, illusions, trickery, that's dimir all over. It's why faeries are pretty much exclusively dimir now despite there being a good case for them being rakdos (that and the fact that rakdos already has devils, imps, and goblins that would fill a similar niche)
>>97690079Not sure what this is meant to mean. Loki as a character is not mono red. Blue is literally the color of deceit. You want characters having colors that don't fit them just because you dislike that villains often fall into the evil deceitful color combo?
>>97690110>>buy turtle precon>has some of the most expensive reprints in a precon because they're desperate for it to sell>>actually does really well
>>97690112Maybe his color is a lie.
>>97690112>you dislike that villains often fall into the evil deceitful color combo?NTA but I am fucking tired of grixis being pigeon holed as "le ebil genius" colors.It was fun once or twice. I liked that Bloomburrow gave us literal Skaven in pic related, but I'm so fucking bored of "science + bad = grixis" especially when WotC said for years that black isn't an inherently evil color and we can have villains from any color combo
>>97690116Honestly, if they had put text on it that said "Deceit (this card is blue)" like a counterpart to Devoid I'd find that very amusing. But they didnt, so
>>97690113It sure wasn't the reprints winning me games.
>>97690110Everything in the recent precons are so pushed.
>>97690119>has $50 value in just the 3 most expensive lands alone>heh but the lands didn't win the game!!!!!Trolling or retarded on purpose, call it
>>97690128Really bizarre bait post
What are some commanders that are bursting with testosterone?
>>97690120Good. If you want to near double the price of them then you better up the power.
>>97690141>art:muscularI think there's an art:abs as well
>>97690120It's fucking unreal.Going from value of cards before reprint (i.e. the price WotC could fucking see as they put the deck together:>City of Brass - $22>Vigor - $17>Spire Garden - $16>Undergrowth Stadium - $11>Steelbane Hydra - $7>Fabled Passage - $5>>97690137Point to the bait. 3 lands in that deck have a reprint value of about $50. Expensive lands tend to be better. Better lands mean a more consistent deck. Sure you didn't play a land that says "you win the game", but the entire deck is inherently going to play better the fewer budget lands it has.>>97690143>near double the priceIt retails on WotC's Amazon page for $64.45, although it's actually 9% off at $58.45 currentlyReprint value on 6 cards named above is $78. Literally 6 cards pay for the fucking deck. Although of course the Turtle copies of those cards are only worth a fraction of the pre-reprint price because no one wants them.
>2026>still no remotely strong spider tribal deck
>>97690173Anon. The just made a set that's all about spiders and spider synergy. You just need to bite the bullet and print proxies of the Universe Within versions from arena
>>97690174UB? I don't play any of those cards.
>>97690161Who fucking cares?
>>97690173I've heard good things about Thantis the War Weaver or whatever the one from the Windgrace deck was called. Never used it myself though.>>97690178Based.
Think there's a chance for a Gundam UB? They like doing collabs. But they also already have their own card game. Would be cool.
>>97690191>I've heard good things about Thantis the War Weaver or whatever the one from the Windgrace deck was called. Never used it myself though.Is the strategy to have bigger butts that anyone else?
>>97690186>say something stupid>get shown how stupid it was>"erm I don't care actually!!!"Lmao okay bud, have a good one.
>>97690204No it's a forced combat deck.
>>97690203Final fantasy already has it's own card game too.
>>97690111
>>97690203Maybe a secret lair with unique cards, but a whole set? Na, wouldn't work IMO
>>97690233They've got more than enough to choose from for a whole set.
>>97690203>>97690233Aren't we confirmed for getting a literal Voltron UB? Is that Gundam? I have no idea, voltron is just a word I have heard and I have a vague understanding that things combine together, so I imagine like a Power Rangers Megazord thing
>>97690241Voltron can refer to a transformers character, a super robot anime series, or a type of deck. None of those have to do with Gundam though.
>>97690233>a whole seta gundam standard set would absolutely work, with UC, Seed, and Wing as highlights
who is the most fun voltron commander?
>>97690258>>97690203Autistic people really need to be told that their interests are not everyone else's interests.I promise you even the average "nerdy" normie has no fucking clue what gundam is
>Have 20+ cards in my hand>Play gamble>Discard the card I tutored for Name a worse feel. I dare you.
>>97690267Where do you think you are?You think if you asked the random normalfag about mtg they'd know anything about it other than that it's a card game?
>>97690271Tutorfags deserve it.
>>97690271kek. This actually happened to me today. I had 10 cards though.
>>97690267Nigga Gundam just had a collab with fucking Apex Legends, normies are fine with it
>>97690178Sorry for your autism
>>97689558I don't know if it exactly counts but when I first started playing a friend of mine had an Odric Lunarch Marshal deck. He eventually scrapped and traded his deck away saying it just wasn't worth playing anymore and that Odric couldn't keep up. A couple years after that I tried building Odric and it ended up being one of my favorite decks. Got me into trying other mono color stuff too.
>>97690267gundam is gaycoded NOT crossing over with it is problematic
>>97690288If that retarded argument gets us more mechs then fine.
>>97690267Even my 70 year old mother knows what Gundam is.She sure doesn't know what Avatar is aside from "the blue people."
>>97690267oh we know exactly what your interests are don't worry
>>97690233They have more than enough material to make a set. But the bigger issue is that Gundam already has it's own card game and I really doubt Bandai would allow a crossover.
>>97690293you are obsessed with this one mildly bad art
>>97690318>mildlylol
>>97690293Have you ever, even once in your life, not acted like an offended nigger any time someone disagrees with you?
>>97690331>get called autistic>in response, post aetherdrift>STOP BEING AN OFFENDED NIGGERlol
>>97690321What is wrong with the actual art itself that isn't the subject manner?
>>97690335>what's wrong with the art, other than literally everything
>>97690335He's an outed pedophile who every time someone is critical of UB he feels the need to point to troon art in an in-universe set.Take solace in the knowledge that one day he will either be arrested for being a pedo or he will kill himself. Perhaps even both.
>>97690347uh oh melty
>>97690354>he doesn't even deny itThanks for making it easy ig
>>97690355the only one here in denial of their own schizophrenia is (You)
>>97690347nice projection
What happens if a face down creatures has myriad? Can the token copies flip up?
>>97690381No. Their attributes when they copy are vanilla 2/2s
>>97690141I've actually been seriously thinking about this.Okay, a bit of a story time.>Be me>USA City has a thriving cEDH scene>Spend 4+ years on other side of state because of work>Come back>Play some EDH games>Metagame has completely softenedJust to give an example, someone seriously questioned if their Lumra, Bellow of the Woods B3 deck was B5, and I was the main one to pushback, not even in a douchy way, just "What? It has a four-card combo? That's fine dude.">Be me, remembering this city actually had a somewhat-tangible presence in the greater TCG community, remembering facing the Power Nine regularly if we agreed to "anything goes.">Find my own place among a few playgroups>Okay with leaking my powerlevel on occasion, I have still yet to bust out 2/3 of my B4/B5 decks.>One group is a young couple and the guy's father.>Want to build everyone there a deck because I like them>The groom plays Raiyuu.>"I just like samurai.">Honestly don't know what to do for him atm other than a generic Boros Voltron package.>Look over at his board whenever we do 2-on-2 teamups.>He mostly plays NEO cards with cool art.>Respect, even if WotC wants to make my job hard with regards.<Be me<Local Catfag<Not lamenting for what this city used to offer, nor what's here now<Just a lost, stupid beast, displaced by time, looking to make a deck with a cool vibe despite WotC
How would (You) build him?
>>97690423
>>97689800Personally I love going off every single turn with the perfect card then when some chucklefuck tries to Thoughtseize me I "reveal" my hand being all basic lands.
>>97690389Sticking to a theme is always based.
>>97690441So you want him to use Vivi instead then?
>>97690466Not him but yes. Almost a shame my only copy of Vivi is in Iroh right now.
>>97690470Maybe he doesn't want to piss off the rest of his group before the game even starts.
>>97690477>"waaaaaahhhhh, he's playing a commander I don't like!"grow up
>>97690480That's not what I said. I said playing him will get a reaction that he may wish to avoid.
>>97690065>everyone is the same anonHow you holding up PDS?
>>97690423All the mana rocks and a bunch of cheap draw spells. Go wide and buff the board. Fit Zada in there too.
>>97690347
>>97690466Shred all Universes Be'slop
>>97690509But I like Final Fantasy.
>be me>Upgrade ninja turtles precon with shocklands and more redundancy enchantments like harden scales>Start winning hard against B3 players despite my deck having 0 gamechangers>YOUR DECK IS B4!!! WTF SHOCKLANDS AND NATURES LORE ISN'T CASUAL!!!Anyone else in midrange hell because as soon as they actually build something on a whim it curbstomps all the normies ?
>>97690511Should probably go play Final Fantashit games then instead of smearing your turds over another game
>>97690516I feel like I don't have half the problems you people do with powerlevels.
>>97690520But I like magic too.
>>97690516>shocks aren't casualI put shocks in every 3+ color deck lmao. Never had anyone complain. Shocks and checks minimum, add in fetchs and triome if its one of my favorite decks.
This didn't happen, by the way
>>97690423He's a really shitty third path iconoclast if you aren't casting big spells but having to spend 4 or more makes it so there isn't that much abusing him that could be done. You have rewind, treachery, time spiral, and turnabout that refund themselves but still cast for mana. Sokka's Haiku and Pore over Pages partially do. You can also be a cunt and spam extra turns. Genuinely bottom 3 izzet spellslinging commanders.
>>97690525Restrain your autistic compulsion to smush everything you like together
>>97690546No. My green army men WILL ride hotwheels and they WILL do battle against my Bionicle figures. You cannot stop me.
>>97690546Get over the fact magic is a set of mechanics first
>>97690554Bait.
>>97690557
>>97690551holy based
>>97690551This sounds fun. I HATE FUN!
>>97690551>>97690559>>97690560You could already do that without ruining the game for other peopleIt was always in your power to print custom cards, especially in the casual format where all you had to do was ask your friends if they'd be okay playing with it
>>97690558Even worse bait
>>97690564>I'll just keep screaming bait! That's a good trick!
>>97690562Why should I ruin the game for myself so as to please you? Who the FUCK are you? You're a fucking nobody and always will be. No one loves you. You'll die alone. Live with it.
>>97690566Oh I know who you are now. Yeah I'm right lol.
>>97690567>Why should I ruin the game for myself so as to please you?>IF YOU DON'T LET THE MEGA CORPORATION PRINT A BAZILLION NINJA TURTLES YOU'RE RUINING THE GAME FOR ME ME ME ME ME!!!!Holy fucking shit, kill yourself.
>>97690562I don't like to run custom cards, I like people to be able to identify cards on silhouette alone, keeps the games moving faster and less confusion around the table. There's nothing wrong with people having to look at a card or two they don't recognize, but your ENTIRE board being unrecognizable to anybody but you is a nuisance to yourself, even ignoring what a pain it is for any of the other players.
>>97690571You're asking me to play for your enjoyment. You are responsible for your own enjoyment. This is like bitching I shouldn't use blue or something because it ruins the enjoyment for some autists. Your fun is your problem you afterbirth of a chinese whore. If you can't have fun without CORRECT SCRIMBLO on card then KILL YOURSELF NOW!
>>97690573Haha yeah I sure am glad Magic has such a cohesive and readable style!!!!
>>97690578Still mad they made these all ultra rare 300 dollar chase cards
>>97690576>You're asking me to play for your enjoyment.Nope. You can play your shitty turtles as much as you want if you design and print them yourself. That's YOUR enjoyment anon, and you're responsible for that.Encouraging the mega corporation to ruin everything fans of the game ever enjoyed just so you can have an OFFICIAL piece of cardboard with your favorite turtle on it is unreasonable.
>>97690585Actually I can play them now and you can't stop me. So uh seems like we're at a you problem, mr. afterbirth
>>97690581>be mindless slop consumer>get absolutely price gougedExactly what you deserve piggy
>>97690562>ruining the game for other peopleI love when autists speak for the whole communiy.
>>97690588HE SAID THE WORD AHHHHHHHHHHHH!
>>97690578You don't need a cohesive style, you just need things to show up often enough. In time this card will be recognizable to the average player (maybe not this variant as it's a rare alt art, but your whole deck won't be like that on average). This is precisely the reason I don't like Through the Omenpath even though it's done by "real" magic artists, the cards in it aren't easily recognized compared to the Spiderman/Marvel versions because they are strictly arena only.
>>97690590Oh hey its that anon who strawmans people! Hi anon!FYI the game can be ruined for "other people" without speaking for "the whole community" I hope that helps!!! :)
>>97690594The statement "UB made fans of the game happy" is as true as the statement you made.
>>97690592
>>97690596Nah
>>97690590>been playing since 2012>love UB stuff>apparently I don't exist or somethingMany such cases!
>>97690598How is it not? Some people enjoyed it and some people don't. If you imply otherwise then you are speaking for the community.
>>97690597Yep, these and the acid trip LOTR cards blow because they look nothing like their original cards, EXACTLY like custom cards. I don't know what point is being made here but I agree with you, goofy alt arts suck.
>>97690600Not how you don't say that you love Magic. Because you don't. To you Magic is interchangeable with anything else, it just happens to be a popular game with a rule set you tolerate.>inb4 "I'd play anything if it's good!!!"You wouldn't though, because by all accounts Little Troubles TCG is mechanically extremely good, but you're not about to bring the diaperfur card game to your LGS.No the truth is you're a consumerist piggy who just wants all his favorite things smushed into one, and damn the consequences.
>>97690597Gonna have an embarrassing meltdown over people being able to read this card, anon? You know, like last time.
>>97690606>cries about strawmen>literally uses a no true scotsmanPathetic, anon. Quite pathetic.
>>97690606You made this argument before and I said the primary reason I would not play that game is because no one plays it and I'd be wasting my money. Not because of card content.You shut the fuck up after that
>>97690610You don't even know what a no true scotsman is, I explained very fucking explicitly how you are misrepresenting your own position and gave you a test which you could succeed at if your position was as you claim it to be.
>>97690612>You shut the fuck up after thatI doubt that
>>97690613>keeps screaming fallacies while using an argument he used months ago and got BTFO on
>>97690607what are its creature types
>>97690616Go look at the last thread you posted this in, we already discussed that.
I like Turtles
Ya know if you're a grown man that gets upset over UB being in your pg-13 card game. Then like go get some pussy, touch grass, fuckin calm down.
>>97690615>lose>declare victory anywayI'm sure that'll work
>>97690557>if I can't refute an argument I'll just call it bait!
>>97690621>Then like go get some pussyt. virgin
>>97690629Projecting
>play this card>anon shits his pants in rage>forever known at the LGS as "Big Stinky"
>>97690630Project yourself into "some pussy" lmao
>>97690627>I'll just post this again to deflect from embarrassing myself with the same arguments yet again
>>97690631that is one of the most disgusting card arts in the game
>>97690633He is right that just screaming bait means you have no argument and already lost
>>97690635We just say "bait" because you post the exact same images and "arguments" in here every other day and expect us to refute them again as if they're brand new.We have already argued it. Its over. You bringing it up yet again foe the 8th time is bait.
>>97690632I'll be projecting myself into your mom ayo
>>97690639But anon, you're the one who keeps using the retarded diaperfur card game argument you got btfo on
>>97690655You've already tried to blame others for your own posts. Please post something even remotely original.
UW was never beloved until UB showed up. The majority of players didn't give a fuck about UW story or art, that's why wotc shitcanned 3 block sets because sales always dropped off after the 1st one because it turns out (SHOCKER) the overwhelming majority of players never gave a fuck about the art or stories on cards, what they cared about was written in the rule box. That's why despite the millions of mtg players and being the default tcg game for decades, Magic has had zero pop culture penetration or influence. Magic "fans" weren't going to conventions dressed as Jace, they weren't making fan art of Chandra, they weren't writing fanfic about Ajani, they weren't making games about Teferi. Magic players did jack shit to engage with the IP beyond playing the game. To them it was always just mechanics.Even today, when they had the chance to prove they actually wanted UW and a return to their "beloved" classic settings, Lorwyn Eclipsed came and went with barely a wet fart. No hype, no fan engagement, middling numbers. Exactly ONE Lorwyn Commander penetrated edhrecs top #100. Screech and scream about UB all you want but at least the fans of those properties actually put effort into showing they actually like those properties, instead of being seething little piss babies only pretending to like something because they can't ignore the harmless art in their corporate nerd card game.You can't hate UB all you want, but don't pretend like you ever truly liked UW because you didn't. Nobody did.
>>97690657>UW was never belovedDid you mean "in-universe"?
>>97690657bro I loved Aldi Brand Harry Potter and badly adapted cultures from the real world. I heckin love Kaladesh! India BUT ROBOTS! Woah
>>97690664Replying to yourself is considered bad manners on this site, just so you know
>>97690639>claims everyone who argues with him is the same anon>pretends that anyone but himself is using his retarded talking points Never change PDS
>>97690666t. Big Stinky
>>97690668>words words wordsJust cut to the part where you post furry porn and get banned again
>>97690657>netdecks>relevant in any way
>>97690657>UW was never beloved until UB showed upuntrue. there are whole communities focused around the lore. they are called vorthos and there is even a card depicting one. nice asspull thobut let's entertain the thought if this was the case. how would that be a bad thing? it would just be the classic case of people not knowing what they had until it's gone>magic has 0 pop culture penetrationthis is true. mainly because wotc is bad at making spin-offs or a series. fans however have made plenty of content surrounding magic. forge might be the biggest fangame, non-UB alt art painters, porn ect>lorwyn eclipsed had middling numberssource? my lgs pre-release was sold out. unlike a couple other non-magic sets around it>exactly 1 lorwyn commander broke top 100 on npcrecuhuh, and spiderman didn't. nor did tmnt. hell, even avatar doesn't have a single legend up there now that I checked>the fans of those properties actually put effort into showing they actually like those propertieshave you worked for EA to have this overwhelming sense of pride and accomplishment for opening boosters? no, shit people from different IPs have more money to throw around on a single set than regulars who have to space out their spending over years and years. it is genius marketing short therm I admityou are just projecting your hatred of this game's lore. and if you really REALLY don't like it then why are you even here?
>>97690766You're replying to the most obvious bait.
>>97690771I truly hope so
everything is bait except when someone shitposts about proxies or UB
>>97687958>I wonder if amano says the same about his art of ff5Probably. I've never met or seen an interview with an artfag where they admit they like something they drew more than a few years ago. I doubt Amano even likes the Liliana he did for WAR anymore.
>>97690819>I doubt Amano even likes the Liliana he did for WAR anymore.i wouldn't blame him, it sure looks like garbage.What's crazy to me is many of these artists did really good work back in the day but now they have parkinson's or something and can't draw for shit.others go from kindergarten level to professional in a matter of months (mark poole), I'm guessing AI really did him a solid.
We were having a pretty nice thread until the UBschizo and the fag that argues with him started posting
Raphael is cool but rude
>>97690938Gimmie a break
>>97690938We’re already in Strixhaven preview season, put your turtles back in the sewer where they belong
>>97690956>t.Shredder
>>97690956Michelangelo is a party dude
Michelangelo is a party dude
the bot broke
Teenage mutant NINJA TURTLES
>>97690956No one cares about Temu Harry Potter
frogs are better than turtles desu
>>97691021word brotha
we need more [will of the council] cards
>Card that supports a style of classic mono blue affinity I enjoy gets printed>It's from a UB I don't care about featuring an ugly character I've never heard of beforePAIN
It's me again, reminding you that you're nobody 'til somebody loves you. And that somebody is me. I love you.
>>97690766Yeah UW is soooo loved nobody even mentioned itt that the 1st chapter of the strixhaven story released a few days ago and Gay Ral is orzhov now
>>97690545Tellah is a big spells deck, not a spellslinger deck. Out of him, Izzet Ashling, The Emperor, and Shantotto he's either the best or second best since he provides draw and a nuke in the command zone instead of just mana or just card draw. There's been a design push in the past year to avoid Stella Lee, Jhoira, and Niv-Mizzet problems.
>>97691283I do have to admit that when it comes to UW anons almost never talk about the story in a positive light.
>>97691283We're waiting for more Gay Bolas since that fanfic was unironically the only good thing to happen to the story in years.
>>97691292>UWfags tell you everyday that UB sucks and you are betraying mtg>but when you ask them why you should support UW you get picrel It's almost like UWfags are a meme for a reason
>He's replying to himself now
>>97691292Because the story has been a mess since War of the Spark.
>>97691354It has been a mess since arguably return to ravnica, where the flanderization of the story really began to show up, just compare the lore of rakdos there to rakdos in OG ravnicaYou'd think we would've visited Vryn a long time ago since Jace is supposedly the main protagonist but alas we get unearned victories and a bunch of faggotry instead
Playing forge is better than going to a lgs, at least I can put all the decks in the same level
>>97691192dawg you have to be out of high school to post on this website
>>97691346Yup. Getting called out yesterday seems to have scrambled his circuits.
>>97691552I'm not fond of the cartoon brain guy in a jar, sorry if this makes me a child in your eyes.
>>97691552Affinity is like 15 years old.
>>97691192If Mark Rosewater gaslit you into believing this was a nu-Innistrad character, would you have tolerated it?
>>97690480Even if no one at the table is bitching and moaning there's still going to be a target on his back if anyone is properly assessing threats. You don't just ignore the Korvald or Chulane player. You don't ignore the Vivi player either. Sometimes you want to sit down and not be the #1 threat from turn 0.
>>97690766>PornNot even that anon but MtG has extremely little content on that front, especially proportional to its stated popularity. There are YGO cards (not anime characters) with more porn than all of MtG combined.
>>97691622No, the art is still lame.
>>97691192I got you bro.
>>97690766Vorthos was a later addition to the player profile and one that isn't just story but flavor. WotC considers enjoying a proper mechanical representation of a character in UB to be a Vorthos attraction. It's not just how the storyline gets told in the art. And the card annoys the hell out of me. It really shows how gay and invaded WotC has become that they decided the visual representation of Vorthos should be some universal mud woman who visually represents no one the aesthetic profile applies to.
>>97691584Thats not out of high school, retard
>>97691214/thread. Pack it up boys, stop the dumbass arguments and talk about your decks. Anyone else build Purphoros, Bronze Blooded?
>>97691704would
>>97691737Are you stupid? If affinity cards were from 15 years ago, presumably you needed to read when they came out, which makes you at minimum 19, but more than likely 27ish.
>>97691737Affinity is actually 22 years old so it's a working adult now el retardo
>>97691643>There are YGO cards (not anime characters) with more porn than all of MtG combined.It's kind of funny how often they beg players to play trap decks by making their visuals focus on cute girls. Traptrix, Labrynth, Dinomporphia (crosses over with dino autism and robot autism), and Argostars off the top of my head. They even accidentally created a fotm waifu on pack filler who was popular enough to get another card.
>>97691214Thanks buddy.I am now unfortunately reminded that we didn't get a Mr. New Vegas group hug commander.
>>97691789I still think nothing tops the level of BM that is banishing this card with Crossout Designator or giving it to your opponent with Gift Exchange.
>>97691793>tmnt gets an entire set of just the same 4 niggas over and over>fallout got 4 precons that barely scratched the surface of the franchise There are so many characters, concepts and factions that weren't explored or were barely touched on. At this rate I doubt we'll get any more fallout outside of SLs
>>97690258Im just trying to think how creatures would work. Sure theres countless gundam, but they would likley all need some sort of crew mechanics since they are technically vehicles. Maybe pilot can finally be a thing? Sure theres some that technically dont have a pilot but still. Also they are all mainly giant mechs, having P/T under what, 3? wouldn't make sense. Dont get me wrong, I love Gundam and one of my other hobby is building the models but im more then willing to talk to you fags how they would actually implement a entire set
>>97691847Gundams would be vehicles that are at least 4/4, just like dragonsYes it will be a proper vehicle setPartner with will be a thing, so that you will be rewarded by running Amuro with RX-78
>>97691847They cant, in short. You'll have otters and spongebob oneshotting things and crazed mechs like Moonlight Butterfly or Qubebly that are basically impossible to represent.If I was paid to do this, I would make the gundams equipment. Yes really. And when your creature fufills certain requirements you can use the better fancier maneuvers, and named pilots get a bonus in certain mechs printed on the pilot card. Like Char, for example. You could have a Zaku that gives a creature +2/+2 and reach or some shit, but if Char pilots a Zaku he gets first strike and +4/+0 in addition or something.Crew is terrible because the tapping of the creature really doesnt represent how mecha work, where they're more an extension of the pilot than big robot anyone can drive.
>>97691885the UB equipment set will be bleach so yoi can have enchantment equipment zanpakuto running around
>>97691903I dont know shit about bleach. But you cant really do gundam any other way. Might be neat to make the gundams creatures and the pilots auras or some shit but people would lose their minds.
>>97691828Its a shame, but Fallout just isn't as big as FF or LotR, and maybe more importantly, doesn't have a toy line hasbro makes like they do with Avatar, Marvel, and TNMT
>>97691847Power and toughness has always been janky in this game. This wouldn't really be any different. I could see them easily justifying lower power and toughness by calling it relative to each other.
>>97691903If they just let anyone use any zanpakuto I'm going to be pretty pissed. Since that is something the lore of the series 100% doesn't allow. They aren't just weapons, they are extensions of one's soul and can not be wielded by other people.
WHO WOULD WIN:>Emrakul>The 21st squirrel with reach
>>97691903FF was already the UB equipment set. There were a ton of iconic weapon equips, a bunch of equips-matter creatures, a whole living weapon cycle, and an equips-matter precon.
>>97691924I get your point but wotc is better of making a new card type because robots as equipment goes against audience expectations>>97691946"Hey what if cloud gets to use zangetsu" is totally in line with audience expectations of what can happen in a card game though
>>97691946Could be interesting, its could be like that Assassin's Creed card Kassandra whe she automatically looks for her spear in the 99. It would be kind of busted, but maybe they could do something similar with Gundam- play Char, you go dig out his Zaku, or vise-versa
>>97691980Partner, but with an equipment
>>97691998Could work for both Bleach and Gundam actually
>>97691903This sounds based
>>97691998Not necessarily unheard of. Nazahn, Revered Bladesmith "Kind of Sort of" already does that. If anything moving the equipment into the command zone would make it slightly better because it would reduce the chance of hitting your "Garnet."
>>97691998I really fucking like this idea
>>97691998They already sort of did that with Backgrounds. Just that but equipment shouldn't be out of the question.
>>97691925>hasbros toy rights likely influencing what gets a setI hate that this is probably true
Is this balanced?
>>97692137>Tutor for an orc to the battlefield for combat damage while making an orc every turnNo. To hand, yes, not to battlefield
>>97692137It would need to remove a counter per mana value of the summoned creature. Adding to hand is fine, chording it out is busted for 3 mana and an attack.
>>97692137Not really? Like the other guy said. Searching to field is a bit too much. Add to hand is already really good. Honestly it would also probably need to be changed so it's only triggering on combat damage to a player. Damage to creature or player is effectively a guaranteed search and the downside of removing a counter is barely a downside. It's already a much better Dreadhorde Invasion.
>>97692137Design liability for future orcs and changelings. There might also be a wording issue because it looks like it currently allows you to find Nameless Inversion and put it into play which doesn't make sense.
>>97692137>custom cardpost more?
>>97692137triggering off combat damage to a creature and off any orc is definitely too strong if it's going straight on the field.if it's "an Orc card" you can fetch any changeling tribal nonpermanent and bug the game out, either tutor to hand, or rework slightly. current card design makes me think "whenever one or more Orcs you control deal combat damage to a player, you may remove any number of counters from among them. If you do, search your library for an Orc [creature] card with mana value less than the number of counters removed this way. [You may put it on the battlefield if it's a permanent card. If not,] put it into your hand."
>>97692146>>97692175>>97692176>>97692179>>97692245Thank you for the quick critiques, which are very valid. I've made another version just now. (Since I still have the cardsmith tab open.) The Counters to mana value change was also my first idea for balance, but I think it makes the card too complicated.No one suggested it, but I also made it reveal the tutored orc, for flavor. (He's basically taunting you for getting in damage and now got promoted.)The idea of the card is to make an army where a random schmuck recieves a rank for landing the blow. (Like in Shadow of Mordor)>>97692217I only have this one so far. But I did make some alts for Talion and Celebrimbor. I don't want to spam the board, so I'll post them later. The idea is to make a Rakdos orc tribal with Sauron the Lidless Eye (or Talion) as a commander with amass and theft as it's themes.
>>97692293You're supposed to reveal anyway so you dont use it as a demonic tutor
>>97692293oh, yeah, forgot that. you ALWAYS have to reveal when you tutor for a card with certain conditions like creature type.
>>97690141I own a pic rel commander deck. People assume my deck sucks and they leave me alone until I fling him at them or some bs. it's fun cause all you do is clutter the board with random stuff.
>guy has combo piece and someone tires to interact with it>Guy counters the interaction >Using vexxing shusher so it can't be countered>Guy absolutely twats out because the game is a 1v1v1v1 free for all and not a team based game and I shouldn't be helping opponents. Yes. I am still trying to win, and stopping your combo is doing that you muppet.
>>97691779>you can only find cards when they come outlmaoing at your presumption, especially as >>97691786 correctly notes, affinity is older than 15 years old
Not in this argument but affinity was also in the Brothers War. It hasn't been that long really.
99% done with squall Found a mlp pony deck box randomly when picking up singles, figured that’d piss a few people off esp with the winking.
>buy 5 dollar foil card>doesn't curl as soon as I open the envelopeguess I gotta check how to do the tests
>>97692488>card is suspect when it is not low quality mildly amusingI've opened a pack of regular cards and had one start to curl before I even opened the next pack
>>97692488check T on the backside. teeth on the bottom, straight on the left otherwise fake. ignore the red circles.can be checked with basic phone zoom.
What are the chances that picrel will get reprinted?
>>97692542>comes into play tapped
>>97692545>>comes into play tappedEh, not a big deal if you play B2 or B3. Any tricolored+ might want to run this as there aren't many command tower like lands.
>>97692545just run this nigga bro
>>97692596why is he black
>>97692542maybe in the marvel set
>>97692545Worth it for an omni land that doesn't require you to pick a color. It's going to be a consideration in casual manabases for a very long time. Assuming it gets a real printing eventually. Until then I won't be playing it.
>>97692634>gets a real printing eventuallyIt's the first RARE command tower like card, which makes me question if it'll be reprinted. But, it has a generic name + 3rd ability is a popular archetype, so idk. At a moment of weakness I bought two playsets for $1.5/copy.
>>97692678This might actually be an honest to God "I'd buy that for a dollar" moment despite the turtle skin. I guess it's not THAT bad.
>>97692696>turtle skinOther than the set symbol there's nothing else on the card referencing turtles so your autism is unfortunately close to terminal
>>97692732There's a big fluorescent sign saying Central Pizza on the thirds.
>>97692542I don't know why they even bother with "color identity" on these cards these are rainbowlands for all practical purposes they may as well just say "of any color" it's not like people don't already recognize how fixing is completely fucked now.
>>97692542With the word commander on it I wouldn't be surprised if it started showing up as a staple in future precons.
>>97692776Try to google Central Pizza and see if turtles pull up
>>97692784Yeah man. Unpopular opinion: the colour pie restrictions are the worst part of the format and are only a negative now that everything is 3+ colours.
>>97692784>why do rainbow lands say color identity instead of mana of any colorBecause wotc doesnt want to break Sen Triplets
>>97692678>I bought two playsetsI know you mean 8, but in the context of commander wouldn't that technically only be 2?
>>97692810it's the only thing preventing 5 color goodstuff piles from being everything and everywhere
>>97692888That, and hopefully them remembering to never print something like golos again.
>>97692797I don't need to google anything to understand the context of a pizza sign on a Magic card being gay ass turtles.
>>97691925Fallout is huge this is delusional. If they work with Bethesda again it will be Elder Scrolls first though. TES is bigger than final fantasy it will sell like cocaine
>>97692909>Fallout is huge this is delusional.Really not, but go off king. Pool 100 people, only about 25 will know what fallout is beyond just hearing the name floating around.
>>97692916>best selling game over 2 generations>ongoing mid mmo>trillions of human hours spent watching lore videos about some roman larper>"no one knows what this is">shitty cartoon from 40 years ago with no plot>WOWZA ICONIC!!!! MAKE A SET NOW!
>>97692810I don't think 3+ color is the standard outside of precons and specific planes like Tarkir. Lorwyn had six 3+ color legendaries, four of which were from precons, one being a retrain of a three color legendary from 2007, and the last being a big deal in lore that had design baggage that necessitated a third color due to being a combination of two separate two color archetypes. EOE had one WUBRG spaceship and two precons adding up to four three color legendaries between them. It's looking like the majority of designs are still in two color pairings.
>>97692810Color restrictions made sense when the choices were limited. People would play child of alara purely to have a 5c goodstuff pile.Now you can play most archetypes with any color combo based on commander.
>>97692909TES has sold around 90 million copies. Fallout is less than 60 million. FF has sold 207 million. >>97692940GTAV is a Fallout game?
>>97692956I can't wait to play Dimir landfall.
>>97692981>most
>>97692898I dont let silly IPs like hotwheels control what i can or cannot put in my deck is all i'm saying
>>97692976FO76 nonny>>97692940You forgot the TV show too
>>976928652 wheels on a bike, 4 on a car, but technically you're be correct.
>>97692994I actually prefer the full art Aetherdrift Verges for this reason. >>97692999That was a response to "best selling game over two generations". GTAV and Mario Kart 8 both sold triple what Fallout 4 sold. There are seven games on Switch alone that sold more copies than Fallout 4's total lifetime multiplat sales.
>>97692786>if it started showing up as a staple in future preconsIt would be the first rare commander color ID land that would get a reprint (although it might be UB commander deck rarity upshift bias). Command Tower, Path of Ancestry and Opal Palance have always been released as commons.
>>97693020Are you retar- oh yeah, I'm on 4chan.
>>97693020Oppinion discarded
>>97693049Not the piss rare.
>>97692888They are already everywhere. We're past the point of saturation and people are intentionally pruning colours with bonkers cards for more focused and consistent deck design.>>97692942But the majority of designs are terrible. One additional different colour of mana should be a draw back, not a boon.>>97692981>laughs in Dakon
>>97693049>>97693117I hate these purely because they show omenpaths and the choice by wotc to nuke planeswalkers and make a dimension highway is immensely cringe
>>97692981You can! Wandering Minstrel makes all your shitty lands etb untapped and gives dimir access.
Ward is starting to feel more and more like Hexproof.
>>97693268To this day I remain baffled R&D thought it was a good idea to print ward costs comparable to the creature's manacost while said creature also has a super oppressive ability.
>>97693268Starting too? Hasn't that been the case since ward was first introduced?
>>97693268Ward should say "cost additional X to target" cause EDH players are whiny and won't accept that their spells are being countered if they forgot about Ward.
>>97693264You're not playing Dimir Landfall. That would be Sultai Landfall with access to red and white if you really wanted it. Sultai already has land synergies through graveyard land recursion. If you want to play a landfall deck in Dimir you wouldn't have a commander that supports it or payoffs in-color. It's obscenely stupid to say every niche has the ability to be built in any color just because WUBRG and 4C partner pairs exist.
>>97693395I'm gonna go out on a limb and say he's suggesting that specifically to piss you off.
>>97693268It was fine when it was just 1 or 2 generic mana. Then they decided to give up on being serious with it and started with obnoxious Ward costs
>>97693426>only decent gates commander isn't 5cHate it here niggas
>>97693449Same, brother. Same.
>>97693426Nine Fingers doesn't have that chin in game what the hell is this
>>97693369No. Simply refuse to let the morons have their take backs.
>>97693460>>97693426These two are supposed to be the same character? Having never played that game and only seeing the card I always assumed Keene was a dude.
>>97693545I'm inclined to assume meddling, given Nils doesn't have a chin thing like uh *looks up the artists who did Lavinia* Steven Belledin or sometimes Willian Murai.
>>97693503>refuse to let the morons have their take backsthat'd mean I can't take back my misplays. :(
>>97693460mewing
>>97693585I wish we can all take back the idea that canada is a serious country
>>97693585You and everyone else won't progress as players if every time you misplay you just get to rewind
>>97693395>You're actually playing 5c because your commander is Golos
>>97693653You don't need to play WUBRG to cast Golos so he's a total blank slate which is why he's banned. I still can't believe they printed him. The Wandering Minstrel is Simic+.
I've noticed that people who constantly use takebacks still manage to be the one wasting time "thinking" about their next play and "uhm uhm"ing. The people who are like "ahhhh I misplayed, maybe next time" know how to pass priority and play a game.
>>97693599Was Canada ever considered a serious country?
>>97686992>Let my friend stay with me for a week because his life was fucked>As a thank you he gives me his Inalla deck>Says he can't wait to see what I do with it>It's full of Universes Beyond cardsNormally I would never touch an Eminence commander or UB but I have to honor his gift and play the deck my way. Would it be rude or appropriate to gift him back any cards I take out?
>>97693811Yeah, when they did so many war crimes in WWI they forced the creation of the geneva convention.
>>97693881Keep them, he gave them to you even if you do nothing with them giving them back could do him in
Odds Emperor of Palamecia spellslinger/stormEvens Judith aristrocrats/groupslug
>>97693881Low effort bait
>>97693913Dont make me post it
>>97693981I don't know what meme you are threatening in response to a fact.
>>97693996the only one I can think of is the "this never happened by the way" meme that gets posted a bunch in here, but 'canadian war crime denier' seems a bit too niche even for an underwater card tower building forum.
Canada didnt commit war crimes in ww1.
>>97694039Correct. Because the atrrocities they committed weren't labeled war crimes yet. They did commit war crimes in WW2 though, executing surrendering troops and POWs was so common for Canadian regiments that the British forbid them from moving high value captives.
>>97692916Reminder fallout 4 has sold more copies than FF14 has had players registered to it (including F2P trials)
>>97693939enjoy your unfun deck
>>97693996>>97693913NTA, and this is wildly off-topic, but they didn't commit war crimes that lead to the Genova Convention.They commited many acts that were agreed to be war crimes at the Hague Conventions previous to the events of WW1. However, to say this were "crimes" is a misnomer. Both sides in WW1 broke these which were nothing more than a gentleman's handshake. However, after the Treaty of Versailles, due to how heinous the acts were, and yes, a over whelming amount were done by Canadians, they were now officially recognized war crimes that international courts would enforce.The Canadians would go one and do more in WW2 that would also be added to the list in the Genova Convention, however the Axis power hogged the spotlight and many don't know about or care about allied war crimes.
>>97694095What's wrong with throwing around a bunch of big spells?
>>97694117>the Axis power hogged the spotlight and many don't know about or care about allied war crimes.Reminder the confessions at Nuremberg were obtained by deception and torture, and many of the allegations (especially those made by the Soviets) were subsequently debunked!
>>97694142If you like keeping track of your graveyard constantly? Nothing
>>97693772So does Command Tower in Golos make the whole deck WUBRG if you use it to cast him?
>>97694191>make the whole deck WUBRG...what? Golo's color identity is 5c, so Command Tower can tap for any color
>>97694206You said using G to cast Minstrel makes the deck UG+.You can get G from Command Tower.
This is some mtggoldfish shit where one Steam Vents in the sideboard for Meltdown makes the whole deck have R.
>>97694170I usually just turn anything with flashback or similar mechanics sideways in the grave for the benefit of myself and my opponents.
>Gavin doing drag on some drag queen commander showWhat the fuck happened to Magic?
>>97694258Oh I was wondering when one of you would have a melty over that
97694258>happenedMagic has always been left-leaning/liberal you just didn't recognize it because you were a kidIf you don't believe me the early 90s books have characters being bi/lesbian and stronk powerful women which were the big social justice movements of the time.
>>97694269>>97694261I can ignore sets and things I don't like but it is becoming difficult to find normal people to play EDH with. My bar for "normal" isn't exactly high either.
I'm a modern player attempting to make a deck. With an average CMC of 3.26 & given that my only rock is a Sol Ring, is 40 (MDFC inclusive) a good amount of lands for a 99 card deck?Game changers are cringe.
>>97694280I usually start off with a rough template of 38 lands and 13 ramp pieces and then go from there.
>>97694280yeahif you flood out too much you can go to like 38, but you should be good.I'm assuming you've got draw to make up for not ramping.
>>9769428036-38 I think is good
>>97694283Unless the deck is Green (high cmc) or Blue (card draw), why would a deck want that many ramp pieces? I'd rather have a lower to the ground deck with more cards that support my game plan as opposed to a bunch of rocks. Respectfully.>>97694285You're speaking my language. I'm wicked bias towards repeatable draw engines (Phyrexian Arena, Mentor of the Meek) so how many draw related permanents (and, to an extent, mana sinks) should such a deck have?>>97694290I usually run 16 lands and 25 non lands in draft, so I'm always down for a lower land count but games run longer, meaning getting mana screwed is a larger consideration.
>>97694299>why would a deck want that many ramp pieces? I'd rather have a lower to the ground deck with more cards that support my game plan as opposed to a bunch of rocks. Respectfully.Because Commander as a format has 4 players with 40 life as opposed to 2 players with 20 life. The pace of a match is slower generally, which gives more power to midrange and ramp as opposed to traditional aggro. You need more card draw and mana to work with for this reason. Cards like board wipes that can fold an aggro gameplan with no contingencies in their deck are much more likely to be seen due to having 3 times the amount of opponents, all of whom could be playing and casting them.
>>97692916>Pool 100 people, only about 25 will know what fallout is beyond just hearing the name floating around.Source: your ass
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