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I fucking love Aromage!

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>>97690641
coincidences = your a jobber puppet
no exceptions

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>>97690641

>>97690645
It's okay if your goal isn't the highest sequences. Anything above S6 is hubris.

What is the comfiest CYOA besides Time Stop Chill Zone and its derivatives?

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>>97690659
You tell me. Comfy is a lost art.

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>>97690645
Are you saying i shouldn't side with Mommy Goddess of depravity and help her end the world?

>>97690688
>Mommy
Of course you fags are ending the world.

>>97690637
Someone shoot that damn rabbit.

>>97690690
This is a protected zone. Rabbits, rats, Tok, everyone is welcomed.

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>>97690641
>Origin
Apocalyptic Survivor
>Fate
Past - Justice
Present - Tower
Future - Wheel of Fortune
>Body
Male, 1777 years old (supposedly)
Lucky, Trustworthy, Innocent
>Status
Lost Stranger
>Location
Forsaken Land of the Gods
>Secret Organization
Tarot Club
>Pathway
Wheel of Fortune

>Special Advancement
Excess Imbuement 9-4
Boon Recipient - Key of Light

>Personal History
9 Convergence Events
>Sequence 9
Monster (Wheel of Fortune), Dancer (Eternal Aeon - EI)
Accidental Advancement
>Sequence 8
Alms Monk (EA), Monster (WoF - EI)
Mundane Acting
Bounty Hunter
Gathering Attendee
>Sequence 7
Lucky One (WoF), Contractee (EA - EI)
Slow and Steady
Wanted
Gathering Convener
>Sequence 6
Ascetic (EA), Prometheus (Error - EI)
Experienced Veteran
Tomb Raider
Mysticism Notebook
Clandestine Nemesis
>Sequence 5
Winner (WoF), Fate Appropriator (EA - EI)
Ravages of Time
Assassin and Bodyguard
Card of Blasphemy
Common Adversity
>Sequence 4
Circle Inhabitant (EA), Prophet (White Tower - EI)
Tenebrous Elder
Ancient Treasure
Forbidden Lore
Public Menace
>Sequence 3
Chaoswalker (WoF)
Old Horror
>Sequence 2
Trojan Horse of Fate (Error), Soothesayer (WoF - Boon)
Myth of the Second Epoch
>Sequence 1
Snake of Mercury (WoF - Boon)

>Madness
3 High - Mad Baptism, Agony and Death, Power Malfunction
1 Low - Traumatic Memory
>Purification
Shattering

>Wealth
Artifacts:
Phoenix Feather, Lucky Coin, Ambush Proof, Bag of Nature, Harsh Teacher, Inventor's Log

Hidden Realm, Beyonder Weapon (Phoenix Feather)
>Knowledge
Pathway Lore 3
Beyonder Creatures, Mystical Rituals, Mystical Languages 3, Kings of Angels
>Influence
Allies: Octavie Raph (Mother 2 summon) (Moon 3)
Sherrie Davis (Paragon 6)
Noelle Merril (Darkness 8)
Glenna Tiger (Justiciar 6)
Marie Etienne (Hanged Man 9)
Christina Agartha (White Tower 7)

Bounty (Octavie Raph), Blessed - Key of Light, Anchors, Tacit Agreement
>Coincidences
Sefirot, Angel 2
>Talents
Human Heart, Boon Pillager, Mental Counteraction, Orthodox Integration

>>97690702
I shall be the luckiest bastard that managed to become a GOO or die trying. I shall abuse my various cheat death abilities and items to bypass two of my high corruptions and just have to learn how to deal with the remaining corruption. Joining the Tarot Club so I should have some encounters with both the King of Angels in Wheel of Fortune. Ideally I plan on trying to do dupe Adam's man into being my fall guy for the ritual to GOOhood.


Going to start on the Forbidden lands so that will interesting trying to escape and evade Adam's faction. The worshipers to the Key of Light are the worshipers I will leech faith from to stabilize as Anchors.


Starting as a Sequence 1 bypasses the need to stabilize for Wheel of Fortune advancement and I can just proceed straight to Key of Light which hopefully is a lot more accomodating for my off path Sequences that correlate with Fate. Helps that I worship it and it likes me.


Fiated Eternal Aeon being treated as a compatible pathway with Wheel for lower corruption amount.


Will eventually get around to not being a giant winged snake monster that is riddled with worms.

>>97690702
>>Location
>Forsaken Land of the Gods
Would True Creator or Ouroboros rape this guy

>>97690705
>Fiated Eternal Aeon being treated as a compatible pathway with Wheel for lower corruption amount

It is canon actually.

Well, lost my start of a build when my computer restarted, time to do it again.
On another note I realized as a nascent outer deity I have by default the fake angel perk, wich would help considerably to join the tarot club even without taking it as an option.

>>97690641
In page 21 there is an explanation of the outer deities, the paths displayed there can be taken? Do they have more madness levels? What's the difference between one of those and those on the blasphemy slate?

>>97690742
Boons = begging for shit but its not actually yours, you're just borrowing and if you piss of your master you loss everything
Pathways = you own the shit

>>97690742
>the paths displayed there can be taken

Yes, Boon Pillager talent is one way to do that. Trying to hunt for the right characteristics in the Cosmos is another, however foolish that normally is.

>Do they have more madness levels?

Inherently? Depends on the specific pathway. They, however, already have active ATS-level masters, and they aren't good for your SAN.

>What's the difference between one of those and those on the blasphemy slate?

Some of them are actually fused together. There are no principal differences otherwise.
Boons are possible with standard pathways too.

>>97690641
What sequences can extract characteristics from items or from other characteristics ?

>>97690862
Any of them good at rituals can.

>>97690862
All angels can do it, but Sun can do it at s4

>>97690609
Updating my build so far, >>97685126
Still need to go through the Blasphemy Slates so I expect a lot to change but I've gotten the basic idea/concept behind this character down I think.

Born to Beyonder parents belonging to the Church of the Earth Mother in the Feynpotter Kingdom. Because he is le'gay (9th Sequence Lesser Madness) he is actively shunned and treated as an embarrassment by the Church and his parents. Leading him to seek out other groups for support and growth.

The social solitude he faced however led him to become quite studious and is now a wealth of information and knowledge on this worlds history.

What should I look into grabbing?

I am prepared to job.

Origin: Mothers Little Reincarnator
>Wealth (Y), 23
>Knowledge (B), 17
>Influence (P), 20
>Coincidence (G), 12

>+1 Abyss, Chained, Moon, Mother
>True God's Seal
>Heightened Risk of Outer Diety corruption

Fates:
-The Magician (Past)
>Discard 2 Low Madness options for free
-The Hierophant (Present)
>Discriminated against me within my Organization
-Justice (Future)
>+3 Visionary

Body: Male
>Lucky
>Trustworthy
>Well-Spoken

Status: Official Beyonder

Region: Feynapotter Kingdom
> +1 Mother & Justiciar

Secret Organization: Church of the Earth Mother
>+2 Mother, +1 Justiciar & Twilight Giant

Pathway: Planter

Personal History:
- Sequence 9: Planter
>Beyonder Child
- Sequence 8: Doctor
>Gathering Attendee
- Sequence 7: Harvest Priest
>Dark Ritual Witness
>Slow and Steady
Sequence 6: Biologist
>Mysticism Notebook
>Experienced Veteran

Lower Madness:
>Desire

Wealth: 26
>Hidden Realm, -7
>Forbidden Literature, -3
>Charms and Amulets, -2
>Affluence, -3

Knowledge: 24
>Pathway Lore x2, -4
>Mystical Languages x3, -6
>Mystical Rituals, -2
>Epoch History x3, -9

Influence: 24
>Gathering Invitation, -2
>Spirit Messenger, -2
>Blessed, -4
Partners:

Coincidences: 14

Talents:
>Eye for Wrongness
>Deep Cogitation
>Contracts and Honorifics
>Human Heart

>>97690778
Is there an actual benefit to taking one of the outer deity paths over a normal one?

>>97690890
Sequence 3 MGoD is equal to a weak S0.

>>97690890
if you take the boon pillager you can try to steal their uniqueness via coincidences, is that a good idea? no clue

>>97690898
How strong is a sequence 2 MGoD? being nearly impossible to kill, exile or seal sounds really damn powerful

>>97690890
Over a normal one? Not much since you becoming a mad cultist is all but guaranteed. Alongside a normal one is an option though, even if you need to be careful with it, taking stuff like true god's seal to isolate it and the anti-corruption options so you can safely cultivate the boon. Whichever god made the seal is almost certain to teach you how to steal the boon, as that'd be making their side stronger while weakening the enemy.

>>97690641
when I see a +1 to a path does that mean I start at an higher level or that I'm just good at that in general?

>>97690939
>when I see a +1 to a path
?
A 'Benefit'?

>>97690939
It grants Convergence Events equal to your level in it for Personal History section and in the Blasphemy Slate part it discounts every option for a path by your level in it. For example if you had level 5 Prisoner and level 3 Criminal, every option for Prisoner is 0 cost until Sequence 3 with Tomb Decoration costing you 1 wealth. But for Criminal at Sequence 3, Friendly Gift would cost 6 (0+0+0+1+1+2+2) wealth.
Stacking the All benefits options is very powerful.

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>>97686195
>This may be a bit late, but it's actually broken.
>You get one use for affinity and still het the +25% Bonus to elemental magic permanently
>This was all confirmed by the author.
Oh wow I see, so you can just take pearl twice as warlock starting out for quad affinity? Thats kinda nuts. I wasn't sure because the cyoa only specified using your soulbound pearl for changing affinity, not adding a new one. Ty anon i'll sending you witch hugs <3

Also anons were talking about why the new oc didnt get a lot of builds, imo its because its hard to digest and fully grasp what youre trying to do without knowing the source material. Like yes you explain the basic premise (each path has an exact potion used to ascend further, you become less human/more mad each sequence, theres only so many people who can be god or koa for each path, there are etc etc) but there is never a clear goal really. Usually a cyoa is either about a power fantasy or following the rules of the cyoa to make a build/adventure that either you're happy with or 'wins' the cyoa. The power fantasy thing isn't really what that oc is about, but the rules/pathway is too vague outside of the slates imo for the build/fantasy aspect either. I think it lacked something to give me and some others the drive to finish it, even after reading the whole cyoa. I think that if there were slates for each pathway, and clear obsticals for each pathway that I as the builder need to work around, it would be way more fun (esp with the whole 'switching branches' part). But as it its just too vague to really make me wanna make a build, and the power fantasy isn't there either. Just my two cents.

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One pager that feels like a two pager.

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>>97691047
Oops accidentally posted the old version

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Might as well post this too since I was in his allsync folder

>>97690977
nta but this is big because I was about to post my build and I thought the discount was just towards the price in parenthesis and not to each individual item.

guess I'm back to fixing my build.

>>97690977
> in the Blasphemy Slate part it discounts every option for a path by your level in it.
Huh. Wizard v5 soon I guess.

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>there hasn't been a good cyoa in over a year

>>97690723
Immediately. The build dies on spawn.

>>97690939
>>97690977
It's outlined in "Benefits Rules" in page 2. Discounts cannot bring something below 1 point, and if you had 3 Criminal, Friendly Gift's cost of 21 would be discounted to 18. (However, if you only wanted the Beyonder characteristic, it would cost 5-3=2).

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>>97690641
>In the 5th Epoch:
Celrog https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97684791/#97685926
Warrior Angel https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97684791/#97688599
Ego Death Offer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97684791/#97689084
Luckiest Bastard https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97690609/#97690702

>In Modern Day:
Engineer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97676531/#97683689
The Omniscient https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97684791/#97684811
The Wizard https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97684791/#97685819
The Baleful https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97684791/#97687096

>>97690702
>S1 Wheel of Fortune
>Forsaken Land of the Gods
>convergence immediately pings Ouroboros, who tells the True Creator
>Mad Baptism, Agony and Death, Power Malfunction
How exactly do you plan on escaping a king of angels of your path and a god while losing control, dying, and having a power malfunction?

>>97691290
My S1 is a boon, not a characteristic.

>>97690641
>>97691204
hermit has to be OP in modern era right? control over information in the digital age

>>97691326
Everything is op at s2.

>>97691296
S3 can still ping Ouroboros if your location is unlucky (he is luckier than you), and your s2 Error characteristic can ping Amon.

>>97691326
If the internet still exists by the time you reach s2, sure.

>>97691204
I think ego death build messed up some math at least for wealth:
>fake person {+17} (17 wealth)
>lucky {+1} (18 wealth)
>united service - x2 from origin {+6} (24 wealth)
>affluence x3 {-3 / -6 / -12 = -21} (3 wealth)
>forbidden literature x2 {-6} (-3 wealth)
>beyonder weapon {-4} (-7 wealth)
and no idea if there is an extra cost for treatise on trees because I'm not bored enough to calculate his benefits too

>>97691342
Yeah, Amon is who I am more concerned with both because he is stronger and just scarier in general to deal with. Error is a fucking cursed Pathway to actually try and go through with him around.

Ouroboros is threatening but considering I am literally a wild monster that roamed around for 1000+ years with that in me, I assume he has ruled me out as of immediate interest. By the time I finish dying and cycling my state back to normal I should be able to muster a defense and retreat if need be.

He should be more focused on the Uniqueness and handling the True Creator issues than me.

>>97691357
A Treatise on Trees was freely taken from Special Task Force's bonus, but you're correct that I miscalc'd Affluence's third level. (I used a 9 instead of a 12.)

>>97691363
Ok, I think the build is mostly fine, but why Power Malfunction instead of Mutation?

>>97691031
>Thats kinda nuts.
It really is, especially since by doing that you get to start with all the discounts too. With the right spread you can make sure you don't have to buy a single thing without a discount, and you essentially get the same bonus as a Sorceress too, other than the color part. 4 affinities also means potentially a lot of elementalism even without being a Sorceress too. It feels like the overall best option for a warlock in general, unless you want to make an extremely niche build that needs something else like infinite goldfishes or similar. There is a DLC magic that does something similar too.
>I wasn't sure because the cyoa only specified using your soulbound pearl for changing affinity, not adding a new one.
It's the same function, change or add, so it's normal that it includes both. Honestly, using a pearl to change affinity is just a waste, just choose a different race or be a hybrid if you really want different affinities, hell you don't even have to be bound by charge type or mana capacity with the right perks.
>Also anons were talking about why the new oc didnt get a lot of builds
You make some good points, and I think those are defeinitely at least part of the reason. Someone last thread said that everything feels like either a dead end or a trap, that's also probably part of it. Personally I think the setting just isn't appealing, it's a cool setting to read about and I can see why it would have so many fans, it's fun to read about all the machinations of these cults and gods trying to get one up on each other, but I would never want to actually be there.

>>97691432
I like the flavor of it better than Mutation is the main reason. It helps that because of Excess Imbuement and the Boons, I have more powers to choose from as well, so while losing one of them is a major setback, I am comparatively better off than most would be.

>>97691442
It's still far too risky. If reboot malfunctions, everything falls apart, doesn't it?

>>97691462
I can use Sequence 4 EA Circle Inhabitant and Trojan Horse of Destiny together to jury rig essentially the same thing.

>>97691479
Can you handle such complex operations while you're losing control?

>>97691485
I have a jailbroken Phoenix Feather if not.

I also took the Tower Present Fate so an unrelated supernatural disaster is also occurring during the start.

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>>97690641
I am back.
Here's a link with answers to questions I've gathered:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1gHcb2N-qWmaolX7AnnwXpGvcHQ6wqjXQ?usp=sharing

>>97691510
Is this
>>97690977
or
>>97691194
right in regards to applying benefits?

>>97691510
MODERNBROS WE'RE FUCKING BACK

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>>97691102
define "good" cyoa

>>97691538
Although you are repeatedly told that buying things on the Blasphemy Slate works cumulatively, discounts apply to the final total point amount of the stuff you're purchasing. That's why I've listed the point total for everything on the Blasphemy Slate, so that it would be easier to apply.

>>97690702
RIP build. Not so lucky.

>>97685932
>>97685953
>>97685995
>Wheel of Fortune Pathway switch rules
It appears I was using an incorrect source. That’s a shame, it presented a cool unique gimmick. I’ll note down to fix it.

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>>97691510
>No, the explanation for obtaining things as coincidences in Modern Day was more about that you get them in the future through happenstance, not that it should carry potential negative implications like Coincidence Points.

>>97691492
>Phoenix Feather
You mean Phoenix Tail? That's a transportation tool; I don't see how it helps.

>>97691510
Can you take Tarot Club as a Dark Trailblazer?

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>>97691510
Also does the Hidden Sage exist In Modern Day?

>>97691618
This doesn't reset madness though.

>>97691625
Not tankista but no

>>97691638
You are annoying.

>>97691653
You made a build that's losing control on the spot.

>>97691600
I will now play your CYOA's option.
See you soon modern bros.

>>97691510
Elaboration on companions please.

>>97691663
Stop trying to save him. If he's unlucky enough that reboot is what malfunctions, and he can't keep in control long enough to revive himsel,f then he was never lucky enough to make it on the Wheel of Fortune path

>>97691510
>>97691600
Just a suggestion, but when the cyoa uses a specific term as a point type, and refers to that term in a specific way in the whole thing, it's a good idea to not use the same term in the same exact way when it means something else. You wrote down all point types capitalized when mentioned, if you meant normal coincidences you should have used a non capitalized version at least. Using "Coinidence" implies the point type when it's like that in the whole cyoa, while "coincidence" would at least have the chance to be recognized as something different. Better yet, use a different term.

>>97691663
Let him achieve his dreams of being Flegra 2.0, Anon

I just do not care for a reddit series

>>97691703
I too hate the Sword and Sorcery azure cyoa.

>>97691594
But Anon, you already did.

>>97691613
That wouldn't really make sense, although it theoretically says you can pick it regardless of your status. Maybe you can treat it as everyone who picked this option getting to gather together in the space above the gray fog every monday, but no one actually having control over Sefirah Castle.

>>97691625
No. The Uniqueness will eventually appear, but it won't be a sentient god.

>>97691677
What exactly you want elaborated on?
If you're asking how they will appear In Modern Day, then it goes like this:

It can be memories assimilated within someone similar, or them straight up appearing on their own.

If it's the former, then you can treat it as them starting at Sequence 9 and then being fated to advance to the Sequence they are normally bought at.

If it's the latter, they will likely only appear when the overall setting has progressed enough that things at that Sequence start appearing.

>>97691691
I'll note this down.

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>>97691755
>companions In Modern Day have the same starting point as us
>no higher sequence carry

>>97691773
At least they have their memories. S3 knowledge ought to be very useful.

>>97691784
if they have the knowledge without the protection perk wouldn't they just go crazy at low seq?

>>97691773
You're going to have to settle for artifacts like the rest of us

>>97691794
They were not s2, so they presumably don't have knowledge about outer gods.

>>97691510
>Does The World: Past even work with Dark Trailblazer?
>No, as it’s a special advancement option.
How annoying, I've been nerfed.

>>97691755
Some companions are very hampered by their short description. For example, why would anyone pick S4 White Tower Emilia King? We barely know anything about her, she doesn't have any lower characteristics, she's an ignorant new beyonder, and her sob story is too brief.

Most companions are essentially just vehicles for benefits. For example, S3 Moon Octavie Raph pretty much exists solely for contacting her "friend of a friend" angel. No emotional connection at all.

>>97691897
You should revive the Original Creator and show all these selfish anons the error of their ways with a good TANGing

>>97691897
well it's a chink setting, other people are only worth being your companions for their benefits

What is the easiest S0 to go for?

>>97691897
>S3 Moon Octavie Raph pretty much exists solely for contacting her "friend of a friend" angel
She's useless In Modern Day, huh. Unless tankista says that the angel is pulled along with her.

>>97691928
Visionary

>>97691928
you mom

>>97691930
>The option that invalidates most of the setting, invalidates several options relying on said preexisting setting
Are you retarded, why would you ever think it worked otherwise?

>>97691928
Which origin?

>>97691955
All the Mother paths are actually pretty difficult to get S0 in unfortunately.

>>97691928
if you're not going modern day then Fool

>>97691897
Yeah, I guess so.
I tried giving a number of characters more depth by implying their connections with each other. Like for the aforementioned Emelia being in the same circle taught by Teale Hawthorn (S6 Polymath), with Violaine Cheyenne (S7 Astrologer) and Dennis Corey (S7 Warlock), with her "creator" being Wardell the Unreasonable (S3 Cognizer), who also has his own links, and their links have their links, and so on and so forth.
Maybe since the CYOA is already so big, expanding it even further wouldn't make too much a difference. I could theoretically give each Pathway each own page, so that I would have more space to write about characters and artifacts.
Maybe even give the same treatment to Outer Deity Pathways, giving them their own ones as well. Although it would be difficult to come up with a hundred different reasons for why each individual character there is not immediately evil.

>>97690609
So pathway lore three times costs 18 knowledge points right?

>>97692057
14. Anon, did you fail math class?

>>97692057
2+4+8=14

>>97692069
>>97692066
Blegh
I was treating the total six you pay at 2 purchases as the price of taking it twice
Knew I was doing something wrong

>>97690641
how much can you fiddle with advancement rituals? If you're going modern day with something like tyrant are are just stuck twiddling your fingers waiting for someone else to get seq 0 so you can challenge them?

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Glitches in ICC Plus have prevented me from working on the character I want to work on right now for the past few days.

The character in question is, itself, actually a glitch within the CYOA's world/setting.

The world truly never ceases to amaze.

>>97691510
Remove the limit on potion formulas or add a knowledge option that costs 1 point please. I maxed out on formulas of my path and ended up with 1 point that can't be spent.

>>97692074
Advancement Ingenuity is a talent for a reason
You can try to mess with it without that but it's your funeral

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>>97692074
You can go to outer space to challenge an outer god.

>>97692074
Beat up a uniqueness, since it can work as a deity. It might just barely work.

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>>97690641
clueless mommy build
I know nothing about the setting so I probably messed something up

>ORIGIN: mother's little reincarnator
I like starting young, gives me more time to get used to everything and the benefits are useful for my build

>FATES: the high priestess (past), the sun (present), the world (future)
>BODY: female
>BENEFITS: attractive, strong, lucky
>STATUS: non-beyonder
I don't mind starting from the bottom, lowered requirements and 2 extra talents is too good to pass up

>REGION: feynapotter kingdom
>ORGANIZATION: twilight hermit order
from other anons I guess doomsday is a bad thing and we should prepare for it, plus a +1 benefit for all is really good

>PATHWAY: mother - planter
>SPECIAL: half sequence
I'm just planning to go full planter sequence with no switching because a big fan of healing magic and the earth mother sounds to be weakened from 'her' description so maybe it's not the worst path to follow.

>HISTORY:
>beyonder child - future 9
>supernatural investigator - future 8
>dark ritual witness - future 7
lorewise I was born as a half sequence due to my parents who are also beyonders and will then help me to become a full sequence 9 in the future

>WEALTH: artifacts (all planter except for withered oak branch - all free due to discounts), affluence T2, charms and amulets x2 (1 monster + 1 warrior), forbidden literature T2 (planter), hidden realm
is choosing rituals for your pathway redundant or are they empowered by me being the same path? if it's the prior then I'm changing it to seer

>>97692134
>KNOWLEDGE: all 9-8 formulas (high priest), formula apothecary 7, formula planter 7 to 3, pathway lore T3, acting method, mystical languages T2
no idea if past high priest still lets me choose my 6 formula slots, if it doesn't just ignore the other formulas.
Either way having the starting formulas for all paths sounds pretty good to trade for higher sequence path formulas, especially with pathway lore

>INFLUENCE: partners zack hollands (spectator), adrienne priestley (mystery prier), laura kraft (savant), aretha cenou (apothecary), mathilda nitte (planter), st livie (planter), gathering invitation, political connections, spirit messenger, tacit agreement, most secret organization

>COINCIDENCES: true god's seal (free from origin), uniqueness, mystic languages T3
I have no clue which dead languages are available so seeing as I am as ignorant as I am lucky I will leave it for fate to decide which dead language I end up with.

>TALENTS:
>formula verification
probably goes really well with high priest (past)
>human heart
>hand of divinity
no idea why they cost more when bought together but I still reach the requirements so I'm gambling that they are good
>downstream protection
my origin already makes the planter path dangerous so having this safety net is necessary
>advancement ingenuity
this plus formula verification seems like a strong combo to safely and efficiently find higher sequences
>anomalous imprint
cool immortality? option
I really wanted guiding interest for a better support build but these will have to do.

going full supportive mommy, from healing my children/allies to helping them grow in their desired pathways.

>>97691510
>Modern day does not imply meddling
Oh, weird
I had made most of a build specifically centered around not spending any of the points
This cyoa encourages you to be cautious, I don't think many people would have heard that without worry

>Benefits only discount once
As I expected

Good work on the cyoa though. Very nice

>>97691755
When buying them through influences is the limit on the number of recipes/artifacts/companions still valid?

>>97692134
goddammit, I just read that benefit discounts only apply once, will have to fix this so ignore this one.

>>97692172
Assuming you mean coincidences, then yes.

>>97692161
>This cyoa encourages you to be cautious, I don't think many people would have heard that without worry
There is such a thing as overcautious. Paranoia is a low madness option, Anon!

>>97692089
I'll consider it. Maybe I'll make Mystical Languages cost 1 point.

>>97692204
I'm taking paranoia because I start with it regardless, making it effectively a free choice

>>97691510
I know this is a bit of a setting question, but do you need a potion recipe to make a potion out of a characteristic?
(Obviously you would need one for the ritual, but what of the potion itself?)

>>97691510
Why is there a 4 times limit on Potion Ingredients? I want to buy more for my advancements. At least make the limit 6 so that s8-3 can be bought.

>>97692261
Just buy characteristics.
Baka~

>>97692186
Where is it written?

>>97692204
>Assuming you mean coincidences, then yes.
Yes, Thank you.
Another thing I'm unsure on, with boon recipient, if you take both a boon and a normal pathway do you pay for it for sequences where you have a free skip?

>Big Manipulator loves anons
>wants to manipulate anons towards wholesome happy godhoods, using coincidences
>Anons hate Big Manipulator and refuse to take coincidences
>Big Manipulator is sad

>>97692278
But that's how Big Manipulator may talk to make us His bitches. Truly devious, Big Boy.

>>97692273
here >>97691510 just go to the doc of this cyoa and you can filter by the word "benefit", that is why the author put the total cost besides each item because it only applies to the full cost

>>97692278
isn't that the entire premise of CYOA anyway
seems stupid to not be ''manipulated'' when the other most likely option is to be fed to the ''manipulated'' protagonist tier OP fag

>>97691510
The stacked costs in the blasphemy slate are too high. Taking 1 s3 options means almost all your points are gone. It's a complete no brainer to use knowledge gap and bounty to cut costs. Wealth is different though; ingredients of higher sequences have no immediate use and are in fact troublesome to hold on to. So the wealth section is annoying. Also, setting bounties on all companions is dull.

>>97692256
If you have a good grasp of mysticism you can replace the secondary ingredients, but you'd still need to take a look at the recipe for the potion to know what alternatives you can use.

>>97692305
I rechecked it and there is nothing about only applying to total cost anywhere in q&a. There is also no mention of it on page 2. I have to ask author opinion with an explicit mention of it.

>>97692236
I'm sure nothing bad will happen from indulging your desires every once in a while.

>>97692256
You can just eat the characteristic raw, ignoring the supplementary ingredients. If you are doing this before Sequence 5, your chances of losing control might not even be all that high.
That's the purpose of the main ingredient: it is the actual thing you need to advance. Everything else in the formula is there to make sure you actually survive and keep your mind intact afterwards.

>>97692261
>Why is there a 4 times limit on Potion Ingredients?
Originally, this was the limit on Partners, Formulas, and Artifacts. But then I thought that amount to be too limiting, so I increased it.
Potion Ingredients were left as they were because I thought it didn't really matter as much.
But sure, I'll consider eventually increasing it to 6.

>>97692275
>Another thing I'm unsure on, with boon recipient, if you take both a boon and a normal pathway do you pay for it for sequences where you have a free skip?
If you have a free skip, it only applies for your normal pathway.
Alternatively, you might have only boons and no normal advancement via characteristics - in that regard, the free skip will apply to it instead.
In essence, the free skip applies to whatever your main advancement method is.

>>97692310
On the topic of ingredients, I love and hate how the supplementary ingredients often come from beings in the main ingredients. Love because it is less trouble. Hate because it means I might as well just buy a higher sequence characteristic instead of my next one to rely on convergence since I can't make the potion if I only have a characteristic.

>>97692333
Ah, thank you

>>97692327

nvm it was here: >>97691551

>>97692307
That's how its intended. You don't have to start with everything at Sequence 3. The "default" starting position for things you get should be somewhere around Sequence 6 to 5.
If you compare how things are now to the old WIP title page, you'll see that I actually increased the amount of points you get. I considered increasing it further by around 5 points, and may return to this decision some day - but no more.

>>97692327
I stated it here: >>97691551

>>97692346 >>97692347
Thank you. It was really not obvious.

>>97692134
wasn't that bad, just had to fix the artifact/formula/partners

>WEALTH: artifacts (all planter from 9 to 5 + harsh teacher - reader), affluence T2, forbidden literature T2 (planter), hidden realm
is choosing rituals for your pathway redundant or are they empowered by me being the same path? if it's the prior then I'm changing it to seer

>KNOWLEDGE: all 9-8 formulas (high priest), formula criminal 7, formula planter 7+6, pathway lore T3, acting method, mystical languages T2
no idea if past high priest still lets me choose my 6 formula slots, if it doesn't just ignore the other formulas.
Either way having the starting formulas for all paths sounds pretty good to trade for higher sequence path formulas, especially with pathway lore

>INFLUENCE: partners lea hopper(reader), zack hollands(spectator), daud wilt(assassin), eugene bolton(arbiter), tianna robson(apothecary), garnette castiya(planter), gathering invitation, political connections, spirit messenger, tacit agreement, most secret organization

>COINCIDENCES: true god's seal (free from origin), uniqueness, mystic languages T3
I have no clue which dead languages are available so seeing as I am as ignorant as I am lucky I will leave it for fate to decide which dead language I end up with.

>TALENTS:
>formula verification
probably goes really well with high priest (past)
>human heart
>hand of divinity
no idea why they cost more when bought together but I still reach the requirements so I'm gambling that they are good
>downstream protection
my origin already makes the planter path dangerous so having this safety net is necessary
>advancement ingenuity
this plus formula verification seems like a strong combo to safely and efficiently find higher sequences
>anomalous imprint
cool immortality? option
I really wanted guiding interest for a better support build but these will have to do.

going full supportive mommy, from healing my children/allies to helping them grow in their desired pathways.

>>97692333
>If you have a free skip, it only applies for your normal pathway.
>Alternatively, you might have only boons and no normal advancement via characteristics - in that regard, the free skip will apply to it instead.
>In essence, the free skip applies to whatever your main advancement method is.
Thank you, I'm now workshopping a secondary build, while wondering if scrapping my previous project, and it needed to take angel twice, wich needs a boon.
Effectively is it possible to take a sequence 1 boon? How much does it cost?
Also you need to take all sequences in your boon or can you just take the ones you want the most?

>>97691510
Just so you know.
I am still fighting Charlie.

FUCK YOU RAKE, YOU STILL HAVEN'T FIXED VERMILLION VERSES

LORD OF MYSTERIES IS INFINITELY BETTER THAN CATACLYSMIC CULTIVATION

KYS

>>97691625
Knowledge Moor could take over the Hidden Sage's role of random knowledge injections for the Hermit pathway

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>>97690641
> Origin
In Modern Day
> Fate
Past: The Devil
Present: The Sun
Future: Hermit
> Body
Male
Educated
Rough
Presentable
> Status
Dark Trailblazer
> Pathway
Hermit (9)
> Wealth
Sealed Artifacts x6 (Hanged Man 9, White Tower 8, Hermit 9, Hermit 8, Hermit 7, Moon 9)
Potion Ingredients x4 (Hermit 8, Hermit 7, Hermit 6, Hermit 5)
Forbidden Literature x3 (Door)
Hidden Realm
> Knowledge
Potion Formula (Hermit 3)
Sealed Knowledge
Acting Method
Mystic Language
Beyonder Creatures
> Influence
Partner x6 (Hanged Man 9, White Tower 5, Hermit 9, Hermit 8, Black Emperor 9, Mother 9)
Political Connections
Gathering Invitation
Blessed (Knowledge Moor)
Tacit Agreement
> Talents
Eye For Wrongness
Role Affinity (Hermit)
Deep Cogitation
Downstream Protection


Changed the build a lot; Hermit no longer looks like a real word anymore. Most notably, I dropped Affluence because I figured I shouldn't really have issues making money as one of the first beyonders, took advantage of the free artifacts and partners you can get (also rip Tarot Club, the less coincidence points I spend the better). Overall plan remains the same though, in the sense that I still don't know what I'm doing. At least I have a decent teacher in the form of Mr. Kott, and I should be able to get through the early stages relatively easily due to my skill in acting and the fact that I already have the ingredients; once I reach 5 I should hopefully have a much better idea of how things work.

>>97692366
>Effectively is it possible to take a sequence 1 boon? How much does it cost?
Just reread, and yes, that's the point of buying it twice.
Well, time to say goodbye to the plan I was making.

>>97691510
I can't see if the qna answers this, what's the status of the sefirot in modern day? If high sequence things dont exist yet are the sefirot not showing up for years? Are they asleep? Can you still immediately receive boons from them? Does the world immediately explode from malevolent gods killing everyone?

>>97692366
>Effectively is it possible to take a sequence 1 boon? How much does it cost?
If you already have Sequence 2 as normal advancement, then I think it should be allowed to get Sequence 1 as a boon alone, even if you lack any preceding ones for it. The price doesn't change, it's as stated in the Angel perk: you pay 5 Coincidence Points and take 1 high madness with 1 low madness.
>Also you need to take all sequences in your boon or can you just take the ones you want the most?
The Angel's perk description tells you that you need to be at Sequence 2 to take Sequence 1.
But if you advancing via boons only (i.e. its your main method), then you can use Missing Groundwork to start at Sequence 2 after buying the Angel perk.
Regardless, you still can't pick something like Sequence 9 and then Sequence 7 even as a boon, it shouldn't be allowed whether it's your main advancement or not. You can pick and match like that if it's Excess Imbuement, since you already have all of them.

>>97690641
Would getting Sequence 8 formula from High Priestess Past, allow to take the following formula with Knowledge Gap, so the discount from Benefits apply to each individual price, or you must take Standard and just remove the cost of the S9-8 from the total ?

>>97691326
Hermit is always OP.

>>97692395
Consider that they are both asleep and don't have any actual wills driving them. They will appear only once actual high Sequence things begin to appear when the setting had "developed" enough.
You could try to get boons from them if you have Orthodox Integration as a talent even if they are not present - disregarding that the main point behind the talent is to be able to start with Boon Recipient, which you cannot have In Modern Day.
The world is not intended to instantly end. Assuming things don't go horribly wrong and all new Beyonders act reasonably to keep thing sane in the shadows, the current modern civilization might keep going completely intact, unaware of the supernatural.

>>97692412
You can just remove the formulas you already know from the equation with Knowledge Gap and then apply discounts for what remains, yes. The only downside is that it will be harder to calculate for yourself.

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>>97690641
The Enlightener has arrived
>Origin
In Modern Day
>Fate
Past: Justice
Present: The Sun
Future: The High Priestess
>Body
Male
>Traits
Educated, Trustworthy, Faithful
>Status
Dark Trailblazer
>Pathway
Savant
>Wealth
Affluencex2
Hidden Realm
Potion Ingredients x4 Paragon(8-5)
Charms and amulets x3
>Knowledge
Sealed Knowledge
Knowledge Gap Potion Formula x6 (S8-3)
Acting Method
Mystical Languages
Pathway Lore x3
>Influence
Tacit Agreement
Blessed: Knowledge Moor
Partners: Marie Etienne, Mona Vann, Adrienne Priestley -They all appear adjusted for modern day
Bounty Partners: Julius Sudworth, Dolores Jacob -their memories assimilate with someone similar
Companions introduced by Julius: Camron-Adjusted, Teale Hawthorn, Harvie Francis - both memories assimilated with someone similar
>Coincidences
Uniqueness
>Talents
Eye for Wrongness, Deep Cogitation, Human Heart, Hand of Divinity
>>97692389
>Blessed (Knowledge Moor)

>>97692384
Vermillion Verses is a top five method, I don't know why you continue to cling so ardously to this retardation.

>>97692424
>Blessed (Knowledge Moor)
I believe I can do that?

>>97692432
Only one can control the Sefirah. You are at odds with that anon and will eventually come to blows.
If you're a multirat, that is.

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>>97690641
Man, High (Low?) Sequence Companions/Items/Potions cost an arm and a leg in points.

I guess it's intended that you either go all in, have a ton of Benefits in that path, or use Coincidence points to make the difference in purchasing them?

>>97691551
>discounts apply to the final total point amount of the stuff you're purchasing.
Fuck bros...

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>>97692436
Oh right, I thought i just messed up again. Well, pic rel.

>Tankista has released OC
>Entropist is going to release OC
>Italics is still NOWHERE to be seen.

Nawwww, bro is ducking. He was talking crazy about his OCs too

>>97692448
I feel like Zodiac Brides VN is almost done.

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>>97692333
>>Why is there a 4 times limit on Potion Ingredients?
>Originally, this was the limit on Partners
I guess this is why he can only effect 3 other partners?

>>97692437
>>97692444
kek it's pretty harsh, isn't it?

But I guess it's the only way for us not to accrue a bunch of high level shit/connections.

Still tho I think overall the CYOA does give us a good amount of points to play with.

>anon makes the build I was going to make
what do i do now

>>97691510
independent Node says you can change small details of your abilities. To what extent? Can I pull an Amon?

>>97692472
Compete with this guy >>97684811 to become GA
Or make a LOTM build, I don't think anyone gone LOTM yet
I'd have thought there'd be more Error builds in Modern Day since there's no Amon

>>97692482
Error gaming in modern day is who can rush their way into amonmaxxing kek

>>97692437
Yes, as I said here: >>97692347

>>97692460
Yes, same as Zella having access to 4 Sealed Artifacts.
However, these two characters are certainly not getting buffed to match the limit of 6, that would make it excessive.

>>97692478
In what manner do you want to pull an Amon? If you think this will make it so that you limit and shift abilities around for other people on the Pathway, then that isn't happening, you only affect your own ones.
But the extent should similar to that Amon had displayed on the Error Pathway. Maybe you could give your Listener Sequence ability to seal it off and not listen, maybe you could make it so that genderbending of the Demoness Pathway is delayed until Sequence 6, or undo the changes Amon made for the Error Pathway, and so on.

>>97692472
Make a better build, one that will blow the pants off the other.

Uniqueness as an option is kinda broken for Modern Day as it ensures you will become s1 at least. And because it is very hard to obtain Coincidence Points, everyone willing to compete for the top spot is reduced to One-True-Build with The Justice: Past.

>>97692507
What does it do exactly?

>>97692507
>ensures
Coincidences aren't guarantees thoughbeit. Since uniquenesses aren't appearing for a while they are especially susceptible to exceptional circumstances
That leads to another question, in a multiplayer scenario who's coincidences take precedence?

>>97692519
Whoever is the most powerful and fated (convergence + luck + actual fate manipulation).

>>97692514
Limited access to Sequence 0 abilities while you are still Sequence 1.

>>97692424
I don't think you can take bounty multiple times

>>97692529
How does it ensure you become S1?

>>97692541
Eh, everything else on that page that can only be taken once goes out of its way to say so

>>97692546
It makes you have good odds accommodating it, something only s1 can do.

Which GOO anon would have the most powerful organization and subordinates?
>GA church gets to have 10 sequence 1 angels + however many more characteristics GA can envision
>LoTM & ED churches get 6 sequence 1 angels each
>CoD, DoK, GoO, TA, FoD churches get 4 sequence 1 angels each
>KoL gets a measly 2 sequence 1 angels

>>97692553
It says "One of"
I feel like that means one and only one

>>97692560
>something only s1 can do
Actually:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J6Tu8slDhwY2j3BO5rEbWM3CSA32DbhwkFQ429gCavY/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.kfute4jop8z6
>Q16: [...] For accommodating a Uniqueness, is there a requirement that one must be at least above angel level?
>A: Not necessarily. But without the angel level, the requirement for luck might be higher.

>>97692564
Depends on how many sequence 1 angel historical projections LOTM can sustain

>>97692564
DoK has technology, which always prevails

>>97692572
Yes, because the option applies to one partner at a time. How else would you word that?

>>97692564
Every non Pillar GOO can theoretically increase their pathway count by doing the same thing the Outer Deities were doing. You just need to kill one, take their sefirot and characteristics, and accommodate them to create your own custom GOO seat. Simple.

>>97692584
>pure technology can reach s2 in power
>DoK can have an infinite army of machine angels
How many s2 angels equal 1 s1 angel

>>97692564
>the most powerful organization and subordinates
The inevitable God Almighty + Lord of Mysteries alliance, where GA gives LoM S1 boons, and LoM responds in kind. This creates a counterbalance against Celestial Worthy and Primordial God Almighty, using each other from reviving like two hamsters in wheels.
This will lower the number of S1 angels each has, but since they are pooled together and their efforts are combined, they roflstomp everyone else.
Outer Deities kneel. Mother Goddess of Depravity has infinite heart attacks. Mother Tree of Desire gives up on her half and eats Inextinguishable Ravings before running away into hiding. Son of Chaos switches sides.

>>97692591
I think inherently the fact that this would allow you to take multiple s3's at little cost and many characters at no cost implies that it isn't that way
If I were wording it for multiple characters I would have said one or more, because it would refer to one or more

>>97692575
But you'd still have to do the ritual somehow.

>>97692606
Let's agree to disagree because once again
That page goes out of its way to state if an option can only be taken once, even for the extremely obvious ones. If this were one of them, then it would say so.

>>97692601
Pure tech can reach up to Seq 1 actually
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XHOlSVIp08Q_kxqaZDmf6doyK-GSibCTRbmCY3oaMQw/edit?usp=sharing
>Q: Hello Cuttlefish, I'd like to ask: Where is the upper limit of technological civilization? Can they rely on technology to fight against angels or even True Gods?
>A: Pure technology can reach up to Sequence 1.

>>97692606
>I think inherently the fact that this would allow you to take multiple s3's at little cost The cost is the bounty

>>97692624
Wow, the DoK church might actually be the strongest then

>>97692632
Errors will steal, Towers too (or even invent).

>>97690641
Potions Ingredients's price is before or after the discount from Benefits ?

>>97692642
after

>>97692628
We both know that that is trivial

>>97692624
>>97692624
>"If humanity were to acquire enough knowledge, what could it achieve without relying on Beyonder powers?"
>Edwina glanced at Lumian and said, "Knowledge in mysticism is also knowledge."
>After a brief pause, she continued, "If you exclude that, then perhaps one day in the future, humanity could find other ways to influence the rules and touch authority. But beyond that, it would be impossible—unless mystical elements were incorporated.
COI Ch 1128
Even pure technology can have and influence authority. Maybe even things like status too.

>>97692641
>have to steal from their DoK betters to even compete
These frauds have no shame.

>>97692649
It is less trivial In Modern Day. S9s job to guns.

>>97692649
In the 5th Epoch it would be a bounty for a sequence 3 beyonder, in a world where multiple sequence 3 or higher beyonders might be willing to collect on it
In Modern Day, if they're a Sequence 3, then by the time they arrive, you're probably a sequence 3 and have had time to groom more Sequence 3s, or they're a Sequence 9(fated to reach sequence 9 but still a sequence 9)
It's only trivial if you spend more to make it trivial

Wich paths have been taken in modern day? I would like to avoid overlapping with someone else's ambitions.

>>97692745
Savant, Reader, Mystery Pryer, Criminal

>>97692750
Thank you, probably will go either for moon or for lord of mystery.

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I was promised spaceship CYOAs.

>>97692750
Why on earth would anyone take Criminal?

>>97692458
Holy shit. What in the fuck happened to that project? He had decent character art and models. He had the ren'py. All he needed was cutscenes and writing the script.

Shit would have been easy cash.

>>97692750
I find it absurd that no one has taken any of LOM's paths in modern day yet.

>>97692779
Have you seen the type of people who post here?

>>97692780
Cash?

>>97692789
There are plenty of heroes of justice here
When people say power corrupts, they mean it reveals, and those here have already had their hearts revealed. Atleast it wouldn't get much worse, like it would with others

>>97692782
For me, it was Scholar of Yore cockblock.

>>97692804
Switch to Error in s3.

>>97692782
no sefirot for the yore skip
and you have to get sealed to achieve door
basically you must cuck yourself while other high sequence players do stuff

>>97692779
To loot and pillage! Why else?

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>>97690641
So how old do you start? I swear it said somewhere but I can't find it now.

>>97692768
Shit, you're right. I did say I would post my favourite cyoa with space ships.

>>97692837
20
Near body

>>97692779
knowing when you're going to be hunted and by who with one entire day to prepare is pretty fucking strong, and they have solid offensive powers with some customization
it's one of the best if you're not concerned about morals

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>>97692837

>>97690641
I've got 2 points left in my modern day build, recommendation ?
I don't have Charms, Mystical Language and Ritual, so those or a couple S9 Artefacts or S7 characteristic and ingredients of my pathway, I'm getting boons too so maybe Ritual would be best.

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>>97692843

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>>97692858
And my build

Grand Celestial Fleet
> *925, +150 Ship RP

Background: Generational
> T1 Engineering, T1 Combat, Bioengineering

Skills:
-T3 Leadership, -*30
-T2 Piloting, -*10
-T2 Engineering, -*10
-T2 Combat, -*10

Drojnar Favour, -*75

Bioengineering:
-Improvement Package II, -*15
-Space Adaption, -*30
-Resurrection Organ, -*50

Items:
-Terminal, -*5
-Mechanics Tools, -*15
-Portable AI, -*25

Spacecraft:
-Corvette, -*300
-Fusion Engine, -50RP

Armament:
-Flak Gun, -25RP
-Torpedoes, -50RP

Utilities:
-Enhanced Arrays, -25RP
-Grade-3 AI, -75RP
-Luxury Fittings, -30RP
-Entertainment Room, -30RP
-Galley, -30RP
-Bar, -30RP
-Saferoom, -40RP

Drones:
-Drone Sling, -10RP
-Self Repair, -10RP
-Mining Arm, -10RP
-Superior AI, -15RP
-Flak Gun, -10RP
-Nuclear Missles, -60RP

Companions:
-Nikka
-Gallatine
-Hanac
-Reuia
-Ktherrla
-Seraphine

>>97692839
Damn, I feel like 20's a bit young for me to have reached Sequence 5 (Mommies little reincarnator). I guess maybe I should dial it back a couple Sequences.

>>97692844

Use this custom LotM DLC:

>loyal dog
-1 point
>cute cat
-1 point

>>97691510
>>97692089
All 3 point types need some options that cost 1 point. It is bizarre that only the limited main option ever costs 1 point, which leads to leftover being possible in any type except coincidence.

>>97692867
>Mommies little reincarnator
You're locked into starting at 10 years old

>>97692844
Charms gives immediate benefit but I'm pretty sure you need to know a mystical language to use them in setting
Rituals are useful knowledge but you also need to know a mystical language to use them
You can't use charms, ritual magic, communicate with spirit world creatures, or do a bunch of other stuff without mystical languages.
Also learning a language is kind of hard, learning rituals or getting a source of charms later on is easier

>>97692844
>Mystical Language and Ritual
Waste. You already have companions who will teach you.

>>97692870
moon buff!

>>97692875
Fuck, you're right.

Jesus Christ I've bene through and achieved a lot for a 10 year old.

>>97692894
All of that hard work and sacrifice, just to be possessed by an extradimensional anon. Tragic. This is why planeswalking reincarnators must die.

cyoas where isekai anons get killed on sight?

>>97692919
Isekai Dark Overlord

>>97692910
Doesn't Mommies Little Reincarnator imply that it's actually you in Modern Day being reborn in a prior age?

That the you right now is just a past life memory of a time before you died and were reborn?

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post danmachi you bloody basterd

If you buy Ingredients and then buy the actual artifact for that sequence, will there be a discount on both.

>>97691510
Can you use the personal history option future advancement in modern day origin? As I am not sure if the origin block all the personal history options or only those related to the world described here

>>97692944
>That the you right now is just a past life memory of a time before you died and were reborn?
Yep, there you're briefly remembering what happened
So anon was just a hyper-talented 10-year-old after reincarnating

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Is playing playing kingmaker to a waifu of your choice rather than be king yourself a deal breaker as a premise for a CYOA?

>>97692791
Yes. He waa going to sell it. There was no way he was going to release Zodiac Brides VN for free. Even Fate / Stay Night wasn't free.

>>97693016
Hus is this you? Or is the dies irae waifu guy someone else?

>>97693016
Can my waifu be a waifu (male)?

Regardless of the answer I don't have anything against that premise.

>>97692384
Dilate

>>97692927
Kek

>>97692876
Shit, that's a good point. That changes things a little bit.

>>97693016
So, Princess Maker? Sounds cool.

>>97691510
Is the Madness you get from options like Origin permanent? Or can you remove it outside of the CYOA?

>>97693016
Ya. I wish to take the Throne myself, not hand it to another.

>>97693071
no

>>97693071
Yes.

>>97693071
>can you remove it outside of the CYOA?
yes

>>97693016
Depends. As long as I have more personal power I don't mind making a waifu the ruler. She can have the world if she wants, I just want the cool powers.

>>97692876
Language it is, the boon I'm taking are from the Sleepless/Darkness pathway and I don't think Spirit Warlock come with the language to talk to spirit.

>>97693016
It depends on how she treats me, but sure I suppose
All femdom related stuff lies on a razor edge between proactive and othering.
Especially in fiction where everything is set out in stone instead of being responsive

>>97692975
The discount applies to the purchases themselves, so yes

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>>97690641
Alright, I made a Modern Day build. Except it got nerfed, so I had to fix it, with a different picture this time because the first thread is still up.

>In Modern Day
>The Devil, the Tower, The Empress
The World interaction was sadly removed. Tower is mostly just interesting; it impact society as a whole more than it does my person.
>Lucky, Faithful, Innocent
26/26/25/4
>Dark Trailblazer
>Assassin (Demoness S9)
Nobody else wants this one, so it'll be easier to develop without competition.
>Bottle of Wrath -3
>Three-Hander -1
>Charms and Amulets (Hermit) -2
>Blood Harvester (Beyonder Characteristic) -7
>Forbidden Literature x2 -6
>Hidden Realm -7
This will set me up pretty well for doing spooky witch things. I have a house, a special multi-classing tool for later, and powerful spellcasting tools, including the legendary Scroll of Create Scroll. Also a big ass sword for early on.
>Potion Formula (S8-S3) -20
>Acting Method (Devil)
>Mystical Languages x2 -4
>Mystical Rituals -2
This lets me progress my chosen path quickly and efficiently, and gives me plenty of spellcasting ability.
>Partner (Marie Etienne, Lea Hooper, Claire Keen, Lyn Dix, Maverick Preston) -4
>Gathering Invitation -2
>Spirit Messanger -2
>Anchors -4
>Blessed -4
>Tacit Agreement -8
I was worried about partners at first, but these low level ones still give solid networking opportunities. Especially on day one when there are no high level characters yet.
>Fragile Balance -2
>True God's Seal
Sanitymaxxing. Calamity is supposed to be a difficult ascension, so I need a bunch of prep work for it. Grabbing a Uniqueness wouldn't be awful, but I don't think it's actually required with a turn zero start.
>Eye for Wrongness
>Mental Counteraction
>Deep Cogitation
>Human Heart
Bonuses to stability and intuition. Not really my first picks, but they should be good enough.

>>97693124
>Demoness
...

>>97693130
WE love and support demonesses here(until they hit sequence 4)

>>97692894
I was planning a build to push this to the max, and taking every option that lengthened my age bar 1, so being an angel at 10.

>>97693140
That's the other benefit to Acting Method. Ensuring I don't bitch out when it comes time to toll the bell, all thirty thousand of them.

>>97693142
Can you take it with "Young" and become an Angel at 5?

>>97693124
if you want to reach GOO you should probably take pathway lore so you know to keep switching.

>>97687096
>>97693124
Evil paths. Kill on sight.

>>97693160
Nah, there's good in one of them
(I) can change them

>>97693160
you just reminded me I have to update my criminal now that I discovered the devil discounts

>>97693157
I think mother's litttle reincarnator locks you at 10.

>>97692814
>and you have to get sealed to achieve door
Don't you have to break the seal? If you are good enough you don't need to take too much.

>>97690641
If the beyonder you get memory from in modern day was Lucky, to you also become lucky ?

What is canonically happening when you take the +age options alongside Mother's Little Reincarnator?

>>97693196
if it's a future advancement that means you will canonically take that long to go up the sequence
if it's a past advancement then you become older

>>97693196
You were just that good before recovering your memories of being a bum

>>97693204
>if it's a past advancement then you become older
That's for normal origins
Mother Little Reincarnator will always start at 10 after the cyoa

>>97691755
>If you're asking how they will appear In Modern Day, then it goes like this:
>It can be memories assimilated within someone similar, or them straight up appearing on their own.
>If it's the former, then you can treat it as them starting at Sequence 9 and then being fated to advance to the Sequence they are normally bought at.
Put this in the cyoa.

>>97692927
Only for the classes that don't have raw power backing them up.

>>97692837
>>97692843
>>97692858
>>97692867
Thanks :)

>>97693220
>>97693214
Fucking Child Prodigy's. Attaining a Sequence level in a 5th of the time it takes some people.

Their youngest friend being twice their age. Amassing wealth and artifacts it would otherwise take a lifetime to attain.

Jesus, who's letting these ten year olds advance this far in to society so quickly?

>>97693016
I think an interesting twist on that is the more willful the princess is, the more likely she is able to take the throne. So if you back the horses with the lesser chances to win, then your children will take your name, you will be the one ruling, etc.
>Most Powerful Princess: Treats you as her consort
>Strong Princess: Treats you as her #1 advisor
>Above Average Princess: Will rule jointly with you in a truly egalitarian way
>Average Princess: Will rule jointly with you and leave rulership mostly to you, but your children will bear her valuable family name
>Below Average Princess: You will be King, she will be your Queen in the traditional manner
>Weak Princess: You get anything you want, and can do anything you want, just let her get revenge/survive the coming conflict

>>97690641
Just to clarify, if I dodge beauty goddess and desolate matriarch I can be a male goddess of origin?

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>>97691438
Ty anon <3 honestly I only want the pearls for discounts since my build is basically div 5 + necro 5 + (oread+changling+mimi) + hex 5 + portals/aethernaut/the sacrafice magic for the reapers scyth. I just wanna sit in someones lap and be omniscient getting headpats all day and reversing curses :3 and ferrying lost souls to thier afterlives which is what made me turn on hating necro and deciding it was cool, but thats a lot of 5s so i need 4s and 3s i dont want to balance it out T-T hence me wanting discounts...
>>97693016
Probably the best path for this is being some kind of knight destined to protect/mentor/help your waifu become a king/princess. Each waifu has different
>backgrounds/story
>race? (monstergirl fuckers rise up. also its probably fantasy so dwarfs elves etc)
>goals (primary/secondary, like simply 'become king' or more personal goals like '...to protect her race' or '...to eliminate all dragons' or '...use her kingship to gain access to the royal library and do <x>' etc) this gives you the primary abd secondary motivation behind your waifu wanting to take the throne
>goals again (general goals once primary and/or secondary goals are met. basically ideals or long term goals for the kingdom. things like 'i want everyone to follow <x> religion/deity (or alternatively praise me as a diety)' or 'i want to return to traditionalism' or 'i want no one to go hungry/without a home' or even some lib shit like 'i want equity' as long as you say it in a way that doesn't take you out of the fantasy setting.) this gives you an idea of what your waifu is like and whats important to her, once the primary/secondary goals are met. it could also have extra details in there (what else does she want to do in general? does she think these goals are possible or just an ideal? why this general goal over any other? etc)
Hold on hit char limit

>>97693453
>dodge beauty goddess and desolate matriarch
How tf do you plan to do that? Also, no. A Goddess of Origin will always be female due to their symbolism.
>Goddess of Origin;
>Mother of All
A Male can't be a mother or a goddess

>>97693453
No, the uniqueness will get you anyway.

>>97693464
your mpreg?

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>>97693464
>A Male can't be a mother

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>>97690641
>Origin
In Modern Day
>Fate
High Priestess, Sun, Strength
>Body
Male, Devious, Educated & Presentable or Lucky
>Statue
Dark Trailblazer
>Secret Organization
Your Own
>Pathway
Warrior
>Wealth
Sealed Artifacts(Apothecary S9), Affluence*3, Potion Ingredients(Warrior S8), Beyonder Characteristic(Warrior S8), Hidden Realm
>Knowledge
Potion Formula(All S9-8&Warrior S7), Pathway Lore*3, Acting Method, Mystical Languages, Beyonder Creatures
>Influence
Gathering Invitation, Political Connections, Anchors, Blessed(River of Eternal Darkness), Most Secret Organisation, Tacit Agreement
>Talents
Guiding Interest, Human Heart, Hand of Divinity, Orthodox Integration(Sleepless from River of Eternal Darkness)

Going for Eternal Darkness. I'm going to focus on creating a religion and secret organization, Guiding Interest with all the S9-8 recipes to have trustworthy members from most pathways, Warrior shouldn't have a problem hunting the monsters for the low sequences potions when modern weapons are available.
A little worry about how to get new formula, might need to focus on boons for a very long while.
Anchors boosted by Hand of Divinity along with Human Heart should allow me to keep as much of my mind becoming a GOO allows.
Presentable or Lucky depend if taking Lucky do make you luckier, otherwise I prefer Presentable.

>>97693464
>How tf do you plan to do that? Also, no. A Goddess of Origin will always be female due to their symbolism.
Wanted to go from life-giver to nature walker, but ok, then I will go for lord of misteries.
>>97693467
A bit worried of that, I was right to ask.

>>97693481
>Potion Formula(All S9-8&Warrior S7)
You can only buy 6 formulas

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>>97693016
>>97693455
>cont.
>skills (general, this is like those +/- areas in waifu pickers, except with hard/soft skills so you know what youre getting in to trying to protect her.)
>skills ('waifu'-esc skills. if you played a waifu picker you know what i mean. explains some basic major personality traits/quirks and maybe lewd stuff too unless you want that to be its own section.)
>items (which items does she start with to help)
>wealth (could be either general wealth as flavor, or wealth she can spend on you for options, or wealth she can spend on her own options.)
>who drives her (your) fate? (is a god pushing you to be bound to her and help her succeed? a demon? a ancient fortune? pure chance? a contract? etc) whoever it is you can expect it to try and help/hinder again later.
>divine intervention (if worst comes to worst, what will the 'driver of fate' above do to save you both from failure or death [not mutually exclusive/doesn't mean you always get saved from either of those things either]? What will he reward YOU with??
>final reward (for you.) self explanitory this can come either from the 'driver of fate' or the waifu itself or even the people of the kingdom. marrying your waifu shouldnt be here (thats somewhere else, or maybe its allowed to be here for ONE or TWO waifus if they don't offer it normally and become a demigod or some shit idk. but this section is mostly for 'you finished the game this is your ultimate op prize'. not all waifus will have this imo, maybe you can have a forsaken waifu or one thats frontloaded with power so this option becomes meh? Idk your choice if you want there to be build balance or just a fantasy thing ^^
then for the rest of it just make it a typical build builder yk how it goes. Include some journey/adventure options, banes, etc... imo starting points should come from waifu choice but ik that would be unpopular/unfun. add some enemy choices. idk you know how it is.

>>97693488
nta but high priestess

>>97693496
read mogged and cortisol spiked

>>97690641
Do we still get convergence events and their benefits for future advancement?

>>97693512
What does that mean?

>>97693112
>Especially in fiction where everything is set out in stone instead of being responsive
NTA but that's a fascinating viewpoint. Isn't fiction usually the home of change, impossible power fantasies, and social mobility, while reality is the one that's slow or impossible to change?

>>97693016
This is a bit too vague to give a proper answer as there are a lot of different ways to be a kingmaker, and a lot of different relationships you can have with the prospective king both during and after. Is it a Merlin deal? Where you act as a wise mentor and advisor? Is it more a barbarian deal where you conquer the lands and she rules them after? Do you end up marrying her, just with no political power? Having to marry her off to someone else would be cuckshit and that's clearly a dealbreaker for any sane person. As others said, it depends, I am one of those that cares more about personal power than large scale governing.

>>97693447
Based idea

>>97693447
Sounds lame, like you want permission to cheat the premise.

>>97693534
I occasionally boredly leaf through femdom related things and they almost always start into a monologue about how you are a self hating submissive
It triggers a homicidal instinct in me

I just really don't like being ignored in close relationships I guess

>>97693481
> if taking Lucky do make you luckier,
It does not.

>>97693577
That's fair, though it does sound like you're perusing the more sloppish side of femdom

>>97693594
I don't really seek that sort of thing out, so I wouldn't really know
In the end I have only discovered myself

>>97691510
Are potion ingredients discounted by benefits?

>>97693662
Nta but they should be. They are on the Blasphemy Slate, everything on there should be discounted by benefits.

>>97693662
I would assume so

>>97693577
Nta but sadly most people equate femdom, and dom stuff in general with humiliation, which isn't really the case. You can have femdom without it, but it's very rare. It also doesn't help that being submissive is also equated with being a masochist, which is also not always true. I don't hate femdom by itself, but for some reason most content for it is always as extreme as possible. At least it's pretty clear when it's going to be that way because they tend to set the tone very early on for that stuff.

>>97693563
It would be odd if all the claimants to throne where in the exact same position, with the only difference coming from their personality and appearance.
Naturally a firstborn princess would have more support than a legitimized bastard princess last in line for the throne.

>>97693704
I find well-balanced, gentle, and healthy femdom is the overwhelming majority, at least for yuri. I don't really see the super degrading humiliation stuff much at all

Coolest cyoa concepts you've come across?

>>97693727
It would be really odd if most of the options in the kingmaking game ended up with the player as the ruling monarch.

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>>97690609
Thief of Hearts

Rentry with bookkeeping and explanations:
https://rentry.org/LotMbuild1

Theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9FqM2UKbm4

Start:
Modern day

Cards:
Past:Death (door)
Present: The Sun
Future: Lovers

Body:
Male
Devious
Attractive
Well spoken

Pathway:
Error

Personal history:
9: Mystical dilettante

Wealth:
Items:
Hanged man 9 (Beyonder weapon)
Error characteristic 8-7
Door characteristic 5-4
Custom savant item 9 (Ring)
>Grants the user perfect memory. Occasionally causes the user to dissociate which memories refer to them
Potion ingredients:
Error 6-3
Beyonder weapon
Affluence

My final wealth?
I give to the poor

Knowledge(26k):
Potions:
Error 9-3
Acting method
Pathway lore x3

I use my final point of knowledge to learn a plethora of card tricks

Influence:
Assorted allies
Anchors
Allies:
Custom(White tower 6,Mother 6,Fool 8,Paragon 6,Black emperor 9,Hermit 7)
A harem of cultists
I won't get too into the details

And as for my last influence?
It brings a smile to a broken heart somewhere

Talents:
Inspired correlation
Independent node
Advancement ingenuity
Dual pathway clarity

Pathways:
Error 9
(Marauder)
Planned:
Error 3/ Door 4

Multiplayer:
I will be taking everything that isn't nailed down. I'm almost sorry

Endgame:
This world is the body of the original creator, and everything in it will return to him. The "Powers" it offers are all borrowed
The only true survival is to escape

I will find a way out of this corpse, and I will close the door behind me
As the error pathway at it's highest can fool all, even itself, it is surely possible for me to close the door when I leave
I will create replicas of my powers using allies in the mother and white tower paths and we collectively will produce an arc to sail to new horizons

My vanishing act could take many generations, but it has to be worth it

Only when we are outside can we be free

What is out there, we can't know yet, but we must face it

My final crime:
To steal myself