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>Most recent banlist update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com
https://www.pdhrec.com

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed)

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com


>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

TQ: What's your most recent deck's archetype?
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You can tell he's new because he put the subject in the name box
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ngl I was enjoying the thread way more when funposting about custom cards of external IPs so let's keep it going

actual TQ:

>post what Universes Beyond you want to see and speculate about the cards in that set
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You fucked up the thread title mate. Might just want to make a new thread now and delete this one, especially since you didn't get a chance to link it in the old thread before it fell off. People might miss this one otherwise.
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>>97735599
...I kind of want to see a Cosmere set. I feel like that's too niche but maybe after the movies/TV shows launch it won't be anymore.
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>>97735599
I want them to turn Duel Masters' Creature World into a plane and incorporate designs/characters from the Magic the Gathering mangas as planeswalkers or apperances. Have landcycling and MDFC Lands be frequent.
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>>97735599
Oh so it's faggotry that made the general slip off page 10 into nothingness
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>>97735629
Please do not word the P/T increase as a static ability. It fits magic design much better as a triggered ability.
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>>97735594
That's okay, he's still a hero.
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>>97735662
Yup. Even an anon building people decks was ignored because of it.
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universes beyond: the cinematic works of Alfred Hitchcock
universes beyond: America the Beautiful
universes beyond: the Epic of Gilgamesh
universes beyond: Settlers of Catan
universes beyond: the Blue Man Group
universes beyond: Fritz Lang's Metropolis
universes beyond: the Fountainhead
universes beyond: Love in the time of Cholera
universes beyond: Nobel winners through history
universes beyond: A Streetcar Named Desire
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What's the actual good MTG card template website? There's a billion of them now and they all suck and they're all trying to funnel you into buying the cards you've made but I just want to make some
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>>97736433
Don't use a website, download Magic Set Editor
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>>97735759
Universes beyond: JUJUTSU KAISEN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSwyfyg3c3s
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>>97735594
I don't care anymore. You retards constantly let the thread go to page 10 or 11 or sit at image cap and then whine the second someone makes an OP you dislike. Lazy golem.
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>>97735599
>>post what Universes Beyond you want to see and speculate about the cards in that set
Dragon Ball (all of it.)
Set would need to be full of transformation cards like FF. Super Saiyan cards should have transform triggers that relate to what caused them to transform in the series (So, there should be a Namek Goku that flips to SS Goku after some criteria is met like creatures you control dying.)
If they did something stupid like make SS an aura, I'd be pissed.
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>>97735584
>TQ
Jund combat, tokens, and sacrificing. It's still in the settling phase as I need to play it more to see what I may need to cut and what I could add, but I've been meaning to try something with partner and these two stood out to me. Tana makes a bunch of saprolings for Sengir to feed from being sacrificed and her naturally having trample is useful.
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>>97735584
>TQ: What's your most recent deck's archetype?
Blink aggro
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>LGS is too retarded to handle control so my deck just slaughters them
I... I gotta build a new deck.
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>>97743529
>Galepowder Mage is now a commander
Hot damn. I gotta give this a shot.
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>>97735598
>Gigi Wellplayed
lol
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>>97735759
universes beyond: Your mom
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>>97743924
nah that'd be a SLD and it'd be four different arts of mother of runes.
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>>97743924
universes beyond: Ligma
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>>97735599
How is this fucking allowed again?
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>>97735599
Universes Beyond: WWE. I just wanna see Macho Man hit a kavu with a piledriver who gives a shit anymore?
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>>97743551
What about your control deck do you think they can’t handle? Most newbies can’t handle removal. They are trying to grasp just having permanents on their field let alone other players interacting.
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I have a lower 3/high 2 mardu deck. I have no free spells. I don’t use etbs. All but 4 basics.


Is it ethical to run vexing bauble, torpor orb, and winter moon?
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>>97735584
>TQ
Bant 1/1 spam via a slightly upgraded Tidus precon

Not gonna lie kind of bored of the strategy already but I don't have the experience with bant or even the broader game in general to know where to pivot it
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why the fuck is this considered bracket 2 / 3 ?
at worst it's a 2 card combo on turn 7
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>>97746671
because the site is fucked. for example it also shows many combos being 2 cards and when you look inside it lists one more card in the prerequisites
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>>97746671
this feels scummy in bracket 2 for sure, but it's completely fine for bracket 3
if your entire table doesn't have creature OR enchantment OR artifact removal OR graveyard hate at instant speed, they deserve to lose
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Would you consider Bruvac + Cacophany too much for a bracket 2?
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>>97735598
Humiliation ritual. Between this and Game Knights (which is sponsored by Wizards) why the fuck are the pushing drag queens specifically so much? Like not even troons but drag queens, blackface for women
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Taigam deck
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>>97747663
"would a 1 card combo with my commander be too much for bracket 2"
yes.
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>>97745019
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>play with randos for the first time since the brackets came out
>playing my Onslaught Kamahl so I don’t scare them away
>What bracket are you?
>me: idk
>What game changers do you run?
>uhhh, Worldly tutor, natural order… oh and glacial chasm
>I win, changing decks for game 2
>me: oh I didn’t get to show my favorite card, Hall of Gemstone
>That’s mass land denial you should’ve told us you had that
Now two of the decks were 5c and the other was Mardu but I don’t think this is nearly as bad as Blood moon is, and it’s the only stax-like piece in the deck because I thought it was funny.
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>>97747702
But Bruvac isn't my commander :3
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>>97747728
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>>97747714
>>97747752
>I POST THE SAME IMAGES EVERY THREAD!
Go ahead and post the fucking squirrel, we know it’s coming.
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>>97735599
UB twitch content creators
The plane of New York
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>>97735599
>UBshitpost faggot is going to make this same post every fucking thread until /edhg/ is just //ubccg/
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>>97747760
You will be on the bottom of the food chain soon. be afraid.
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>>97747768
He's an actual paid advertiser, what do you expect?
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Post paper decks currently in construction!
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>>97747760
>POV: You're a ritual post hating 500 lbs bluefag
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>>97747728
>intentionally ignore social game’s attempt at expectation setting with pick up groups
>run mld, specifically explained in detail what it means and entails
>run mld
>use ignorance as a shield for your faggotry

You either a retard bitch, or an angle shooting pubstomper loser, feel free to pick one or both
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Post already built decks
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>>97747793
It's a big mess, still waiting on a few cards.
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>>97747830
I did
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>>97747760
Oh it's you. I remember you used to get mad at me using certain images because you don't get that 4chan is an image board or something.
And no, I didn't post that image but sometimes I do.
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>>97747830
Bugs
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>>97747837
>Gorgans
>Gaze of granite
flavourful sovl
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>>97747806
Don’t project so hard, you’ll strain yourself.
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>>97747855
Of course, I’m the one who posted the green text and I’m merely projecting that I too run mld and post on the internet looking for sympathy in a casual format where I intentionally aggravated people
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>>97747837
Sweet waifu deck anon
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>>97747864
Thanks, she seemed like a fun idea for a bracket 2
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I'm building a mono blue deck around this guy and having everyone draw cards.
Should I include Folio of Fancies to make everyone hate me slightly less, or would letting them keep all of the cards I'm forcing them to draw run counter to my plan?
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>Decide to have some nice fun casual games of Commander
>Sit down at a table
>"So we're all playing bracket 2, right?"
>What the fuck is bracket 2? Is that what people are calling powerlevels now?
>Put away my 7 if these people are playing 2s, bring out my weakest deck
>Take mulligan, get a really good hand but am going last
>Start my turn
>"Uhm, acksually anon, Jeweled Lotus and Mana Crypt are banned."
>wtf Mana Crypt has been a staple for 30+ years no way they banned it
>Whatever, sounds like BS but they let me draw 2 cards to replace them. Hand's ruined now but whatever.
>Turn 3 rolls around, didn't get any ramp off and am struggling to just curve out
>"Anon you can't play that card in bracket 2. It's a game changer."
>wtf.jpg
>Rhystic Study has been the poster child of the format since it was made. What kind of cucked shit is this?
>One of them pulls out their phone and shoves a list of cards in my face
>wtf why is fierce guardianship on this list? It's a card made just for commander. Why is it not allowed in commander?
>Ask them why the fuck I'm not allowed to use my "game changer" if it's not banned
>They start babbling some nonsense about brackets. I basically don't bother listening.
>Game continues as I struggle to hold on with all my best cards basically counterspelled for free. Barely manage to set up my Grave Pact to keep the creature spam simic player in check.
>Simic bullshit naturally has a billion lands compared to everyone else, finally ready to take him down a peg
>"No anon you can't cast that it's MLD"
>I point out that my card wasn't banned and it's not on that bullshit "game changer" list
>They all erupt into babbling about brackets then shove a wall of text into my face on their phones
How the fuck do people play like this? There's so many fucking rules it's impossible to keep track of them.
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>>97747945
This legitimately did NOT happen.
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>>97747945
yeah brackets are shit
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>never played a control deck before
>borrow friend's Y'shtola control deck
Holy shit this is anti-fun in physical form. The entire deck just revolves around counterspells, destroy/exile on demand, amd draw more cards to repeat this. This feels like pure evil. Meanwhile everyone dies because whenever you do this, Yshtola bonks everyone with infect hits.
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>>97747945
Things that didn't happen but probably should have
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>>97747945
Weirdest larp
On the slim chance this did happen (it didn't) you're clearly just a pubstomping faggot if that is your "casual" deck.
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Would you consider Twenty-Toed Toad + Lightning Greaves too powerful a combo for Bracket 2?
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>>97748003
I find that very fun to play
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>>97748034
Not really. If the deck is really a 2, its going to take atleast 4+ turns to reach its requirement.
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>>97748056
I either run the Toad and Lightning Greaves or Jace+Lab Maniac as my wincon, and I figure the Toad is more fun/not as strong for Bracket 2.
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Speaking of brackets, what's the difference between 4 and 5? My understanding for brackets is
>1 = random junk, literally
>2 = precons
>3 = upgraded/optimized precon OR a competently built deck with a wincon (3 GC max)
>4 = sweaty combos, unlimited GC
>5 = 4 but now with Thoracle?
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>>97748074
>1, random junk
>2, people that want to play the game
>3, people that say they want to play the game but are shit
>4, fake bracket full of people huffing copium
>5, people huffing different type of copium believing this awful format can be competitive
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>>97748074
5 is more than just thoracle, its the entire meta game and game knowledge, expecting some games to be won on turn 1 or how to stop them on turn 1, knowing your perfect starting hands and lines to aggressively mull for, and what your opponents will also be looking for just but seeing their commander in the zone.
You're still going to see a lot of wildly powerful commanders in bracket 4 and with plenty of early win bullshit, but it doesn't have the meta that cedh has.
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>>97748081
Excellent summary.
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>>97748081
1: Artist tribal
2. Precons
3. Precons with some upgrades
4. EDH Pre-brackets
5. CEDH
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All I know is that playing a straight out of the box precon feels like pure torture. Like holy shit I am 99.999% sure WOTC knows they ship those things out with shittastic land bases and terrible curves, but they don't care because they know you'll shell out money for stuff like shocks and fetches.
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>>97748108
>Why do they cater precons to be low power shit with the shitty low power manabases they require
Its a mystery, its almost like its their goal outisde of tinfoiling.
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>>97748123
There's a difference between low power and pure frustration from a shitty mana base. You can have a clean, consistent "play a land, do a thing each turn" formula without having it be high power. The problem is precons are absolutely flooded with "this land enters tapped" shit, which makes you have to just sit there and do nothing on a lot of turns.
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>>97747793
>>97747837

When posting decks, it would be helpful to sort them in clear categories.
>>97747847 much better
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>>97748190
>When posting decks, it would be helpful to sort them in clear categories.
Why would we do that for decks that aren't complete?
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>>97748190
I think it's a neat idea anon
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>>97747945
>ask a question
>ignore the answer
are you a woman, anon?
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>>97748074
4 is your LGS's friday night standard
5 is a standard regional
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>>97747945
Yeah don’t play in bracket 2 then it’s for battle cruiser lower powered decks. I hadn’t played in several years so I had to come to speed on the game changer list. It’s pretty homosexual over all. I would prefer to see a points system like Canadian Highlander.

But generally bracket 2 will be EZ mode just playing your deck. Bracket 3 things get a little tighter. Your deck sounds like it was a bracket 3.5 or 4. Probably a solid 4 if you played cards to disrupt lands. The bracket system as a whole is still in beta testing and I don’t think brackets 2, 3 or 4 are properly delineated. And bracket 1 for pre-con decks should be preserved as bracket-K (for kindergarten ie learning to play commander/MTG)
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Sometimes I have the counterspell but just want the game to end so I let the other player do their thing and win. Should you let the other players know you could have stopped it, but didn't do anything?
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>>97748330
Last game night I had a board wipe, but the game was going on so fucking long I just never cast it. I could have protected it on my side, but didn't have what was needed to quickly close out so just let someone else win in 3 turns.
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>>97748330
I mean if it was a good game that was close I usually reveal my hand in MTGO or tell them about it
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>>97748330
No? Not unless you are trying to tell someone that what they were doing was a tactical mistake in any other situation
Otherwise why are you trying to accomplish? Basically just bragging that you didn’t “really” lose
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>>97747793
I wanna build Elves
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>>97747830
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Teysa looks like a hooker
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>>97748489
She looks nothing like your mother, I’d know.
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>>97748074
4 is cEDH
5 is optimized cEDH
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>>97748496
But she does look like your mom and that's how I know she's a hooker.
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>>97748489
Ugly, ugly, ugly
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>>97748003
>never played a control deck before
Newfag opinion discarded
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>>97748330
Kingmaking is more prevalent the higher in power level you go
But if there was no other potential threat and you just let the other guy's win go through because you're tired you simply lost the battle of attrition
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>>97748330
No, it looks like seething behavior and nobody will feel better that you just let it happen because you were bored/tired.
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>>97747945
Just look at the bracket system. Look at your game changers, your average speed of your deck and you should get a good idea on where you stand.
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>>97748489
She's pretty mid.
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>>97748800
>gameplay to be... considerate, letting each deck showcase its plan.
They can't just exclude blue as a whole from a bracket like that
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>>97748800
>and you should get a good idea on where you stand.
Not really.
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I think I'm a big dumb green player.
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>>97748820
The plan is to counter everything 1 to 1 and durdle until you stumble ane die or kingmake, pretty bracket 2 to me
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>>97748832
based and grug-pilled
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>>97747945
this definitely happened
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If I run Caesar as my commander then run a monkey tribal deck how many people do you think would actually get the joke?
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I think I'm gonna take the proxy pill.
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>>97749019
nooooo you're a fucking pub stomping poorfag
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>>97749019
If you're doing it to make neat decks then fine.
If you're doing it because you just need to have every "best" card in every deck you make then fuck you.
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>>97748003
Boy look at all the UB trannies you made mad by criticising their furry waifu lmao
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>>97749048
>poorfag
I own 5 decks that all exceed over $800 with one at $1600 because it has a real dual. All real cards. At this point I can't really justify buying a second or third copy of Urborg, Rhystic, Tithe, Demonic tutors, Ancient tombs, doubling seasons. I'm pretty much done paypigging for singles.
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>>97749075
One?
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>>97749072
Some cards are just expensive because they work and make unsupported shit work better. If i wanna play snake tribal that can actually present a win in bracket 3 you basically have to get a three tree city or cavern of souls or roaming throne. To play and protect your stupid 4 card snake combo before Mr kaalia player shits out a twinflame tyrant.
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I picked up a box of the Avatar Jumpstart when the price was low to get the expensive chase cards and give the chaff to Trick-or-Treaters come Halloween and wound up getting the Azula, Aang and Katara Experience Counter cards. It's probably too late for a Secret Lair, but I feel they should have done something like this to tie that cycle together.
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>>97748982
What reference would that even be? Did real life Julius Caesar own monkeys?
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>>97749088
I've never purchased an additional copy for EDH in my entire EDH life. People know the one Rystic Study in my RWU deck is real, so fuck paying for one again when all the cool new art they have is even more ridiculously expensive than the original. It's all functionally the same as if I swapped the cards out just without all the wasted time.
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>>97749088
>at this point i cant justify paying for more cedh staples even though i was capable of doing that the first time
The point is you are not satisfied with the decks you already have but this time you want more for free, the fact you cant even just admit you want to play cedh where everyone proxies is just proof that you're a pubstomper
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>>97749175
basedbasedbased
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>>97749175
>pubstomping & cEDH
Because I used the bracket rules and can put up to 3 GC in my bracket 3 deck?
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>>97749226
>Because I used the bracket rules and can put up to 3 GC in my bracket 3 deck?
You've done it before, why not now?
>inb4 he wants to coast for free while pubstomping
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>>97749229
You have to be either 12yrs old or incredibly autistic. The fuck you mean why not now? I've explained my reasons. If you're gonna cry pubstomber whenever someone plays a card off the GC list then idk if you should be playing commander. Jesus Christ dude
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>>97749244
You've explained nothing, you've only said you're done paypigging for singles even though you're able to pay
And what caused the change? Wotc released one too many trannies? UB, even though you can just ignorenit entirely?
No, you just want to pubstomp for free now; such is life I suppose
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>>97749244
He is a troll shitposting about proxies
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>>97749264
I didnt even say he should stop proxying lol you faggots are so desperately in need of validation
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>>97749267
Projecting
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>>97749286
Proxying is the sincerest form of flattering wotc you dumb fuck
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>>97749291
The autism and maladaptive behavior is strong with this one.
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>>97749075
>tfw mtf that is also a furry and loves Y'shtola
Is it that common archetype?
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>>97749298
Being F2P via proxying is one thing, but the only autistic thing going on here is demanding that anyone take you seriously lol
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>>97747768
>>97747790

I'm doing it until off-topic spam like it will be banned on sight. I'm sick of seeing it every thread so I'm accelerating until others see it too
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>>97747945
nice, anyone playing b2 banned cards are not people. stay in your shitty staple pile lane
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>>97749301
Extremely, it's the stereotype for every FF14 fan. The crossover between troons and furries is less recognized but seems to be creeping closer to 100% every year, probably in no small part to social grooming platforms like FF14 and Roblox.
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>>97747945
>>They start babbling some nonsense about brackets. I basically don't bother listening.
Most realistic part about this post. Almost makes it believeable with how some MTG players are immune to new information.

But shit like this always reminds me of when I got back into EDH after a break.
>"Oh, Paradox Engine is banned now."
>"Yeah, makes sense."
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>97747945
>weakest deck
>crypt and lotus
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Are Hexproofs affected by multi-target/non-targeted effects?
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>>97749551
multitarget, yes. non-targeting, no
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>>97749551
>>97749567
sorry, meant the other way around. I meant that the hexproof affects the ability to target
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>this is the board state that made people ragequit and cry "t-that's not bracket 3"
missed 2 land drops btw
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>>97749890
Next turn you'll ping everyone for 9 not even counting your attacks themselves, if they didn’t have an answer it’s probably over
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>>97748982
I got the joke and i haven't even seen the movies
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>>97749890
Luv me gnomes
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>>97749920
yeah a GNOMED the guy that ramped to 8 mana and then manchild tears were shed
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>>97749925
Manaramper forgets to pack interaction, many such cases
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Is manabarbs mld
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>>97749956
No, it's just a pain in the dick, and I love it for doing that. Combine it with Citadel of Pain for extra fun.
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>>97749956
Yes, and so is Thalia heretic cathar
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why does every woman that plays this game have a fucking edgar deck
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>>97749999
Because women like vampires.
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Aside from making everyone draw tons of cards, what could be some fun uses of this guy as a Commander?
I know I could copy some big Artifact Creatures but I care more about having fun/being a cancer at the table rather than winning.
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At lgs before commander event, playing a quick game with regular players, lend a discard deck to a player that doesnt have a deck. Figured giving a stronger deck to someone who doesnt have a deck against people who play strong decks would be fine.


Turns out vicious rumors, burglar rats(x5 for each of the printings of 1b discard critter lol), hopeless nightmare is too much for gruul toph and maralen. And I was mana screwed, but they were so pissy at me because I built the deck.

Why are people so whiney lately? I got 18 year old high schoolers that go emo and mid 30/40s whinehards
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>>97750167
My friend. You must think inside the box.

Wizened snitches / lantern of insight

Then mechanized production booby trap :)
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>>97735599
>baldur's gate 3 set built around act 2 and act 3
WotC is milking BG3 too much with Secret Lairs that I prefer them releasing set now that they have enough source material from full game release than early access build.
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>>97750172
>Why are people so whiney lately?
Age has nothing to do with it
Blame Sheldon for coddling retards that would've been excised by the 60 card crowd long ago
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>>97749890
I swear any aggro strategy draws the most ire from retards. They see all the pieces of immense aggression and ignore them until it's too late.
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>>97750195
There's a lot of cards that could get kind of wacky if you duplicate a bunch of them... even in a non-storm deck this would quickly be able to become a win-con if you get enough time with it.
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>>97735604
Old thread
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>>97750167
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>>97749905
>9
11.
She will get a counter next turn and make 5 gnomes and get another and make 6.
>>97749890
If you missed 2 land drops, then that means this was on turn 5 and maybe you knocked out one player by then, and if no one could interact with you, then you would probably kill another next turn and the last the following, that's perfectly normal power for a bracket 3 that can go cry up a rope.
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>>97749999
it's actually crazy how i knew you'd say edgar before i even finished reading
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I'm being 100% honest right now when I say that the 5 color partner ninja turtle needs to be banned from the format. Pic related has infested all three of my local lgs' and they're all the same valueslop garbage
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>>97750658
>no cast trigger
>no etb
>no protection
>doesn't even draw card
just use your removal that you always have when it become a problem for you
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>>97750658
Whenever someone plays a ub card that I deem ugly as a commander I just play my all edicts nemata deck. Their favorite media reference must die a thousand deaths, even if it costs me the game.
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This guy is so cool, but the fatties you play are always going to be the same.
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>>97750172
Because a LOT of people are giga-shitters. We're talking people who bought a precon, "made some changes to it" (read: somehow managed to sidegrade or downgrade a precon), and then they cry because you came in with a competently built 3 or 4 deck.
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>>97750658
why does mikey have 4 fingers?
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>>97750804
There is also good chance these giga-shitters might have added cards from sample booster into the 99 deck for whatever reason even if those are not part of commander color profile.
>mfw seen local from friendly pod play mono white essence channeler creature
>in the bloomburrow gruul precon
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>>97750845
>>97750804
>t. cedh player who refuses to stay in his lane
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>>97750851
I play with own precons against other precons, I have no interest in games that end in turn 4 or 5.
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>>97750851
My dude, I stick to 3 for 99% of my decks. I hate to tell you, but a bunch of people simply have no clue what they're doing.
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>>97750880
I'm not your dude, my guy
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>>97750845
>mono white cards into a gruul precon
Was this person new to the format?
Only excuse I could see.
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>>97750172
Trinketfag recently made a video about how discard decks are on the level with MLD, so that could be a reason.
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>>97750658
I played against a guy with the unedited precon and he must have gotten the perfect ideal opening hand. He had Bebop more token producers, and the 5c turtles on T5.
It drew a lot of hate and he lost because someone else just drew their combo pieces.
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>>97750989
>just drew their combo pieces.
b3 btw
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>>97750199
No I'll blame Sheldon for coddling retards that wanted free win cards in the format after 2011 when it was clear he had to start taking the rules seriously. He's the ape that went through with making silver border legal for a whole fucking month.
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>>97750997
Combo is slop but combo is allowed in bracket 3
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>>97750965
I've seen this person play 3 times with other earlier precon before that. Before Animate Army precon, guy was playing with Azorius "Spirit Squatron" precon and even during that had to point out corrections.
>used the etched foil proxy as commander
>somehow plays millicent, restless revenant from hand
>the original card was in 99 deck
The guy is just slow individual that needs things repeated.
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>>97750999
Yes it is indeed sheldon's fault he was too naive thinking players could self regulate, though i like the idea of making *some* un cards legal, for purely fair reasons of course
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>>97750172
I only play at cafes and bars where people socialize and Magic is a way to facilitate that. Grognards usually avoid those places because they don't want to socialize
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>>97748982
uhhhhhhhhhh age of empires cheat codes?
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>>97751039
>>used the etched foil proxy as commander
there is nothing wrong with that
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>>97751177
The same original card was in the 99 deck, was that okay though?
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Yes.
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>>97751212
I thought this was a singleton format?
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>>97751195
>left the important information out
Don't be dumb
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>>97751220
You thought wrong my good bitch
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>>97750997
>>97751017
>Playing B3 against the unedited Precon
Lmao
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>buy 2 boxes of different colored dragon shields
>Some of the sleeves got damaged over the course of time, used up the overflow they come with
>Have to buy 2 more boxes of the same sleeves
>Have so many left over sleeves, sleeve up 2 more decks
>Have 2 sets of decks with the same sleeves, and my autism about it is driving me mad despite knowing its a waste of money to buy even more sleeves
AAAAAAAHH
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>>97747669
I am absolutely sure that you know fuckall about black people, blackface and women
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>>97751402
Get the $45 1k pack of dragon shields and sleeve everything in the same color
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>>97751402
This is exactly why I always sleeve everything in one color. That way I can easily move cards as needed, as well as just sleeve up extra cards I might want to use.
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>>97751430
>>97751449
Then how do you play test against decks if you can't tell them apart?
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>>97750172
>Why are people so whiney lately?
People have always whined when you interact and remove their shit. Anyone who claims older magic players were a tougher breed that didn't do this is a newfag or lying.
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>>97751498
964 nonlands
35 lands
5c commander
Shuffle the 964 and grab 64 at random. Slap lands in and shuffle and walla.
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>>97751499
To be fair, that guy is pure evil in a flicker deck.
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>>97749999
>don't know any Edgar woman
>every girl I know runs some form of zombie deck, graveyards shit and landfalls
I will trade you a Dimir, Golgari, Sultai, Abzan, Jund and Esper girl for an aggressive Mardu lady.
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>>97751621
>tfw there's a girl (true) at my LGS who apes everyone with a Tifa landfall deck that utilizies disgusting levels of sweat
She's not even fat/ugly either.
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>>97751621
Women who play black are not to be trusted.
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>>97751499
>Anyone who claims older magic players were a tougher breed
But they were indeed a tougher breed back in a better time, when publicly whining that you lost round 1/lost your chance to make top8 would make you a pariah
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>>97751530
ahyuck, mld deserves to be in the unplayable bracket
and discard next
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>>97751718
>Discard
Discard is the same level of mill. if you have a problem with it, its due to you not having enough draw and recursion.
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>>97750658
You just described every 5 color deck Anon. WURBG is cancer period.
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>>97751621
>Mardu
>lady
lol... who's gonna tell him
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>>97751759
can't cast draw if you don't got hand
I can cast anything even without a library
try again nogle
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>>97735584
>TQ
Human-Soldiers with Caesar

How is it looking?
I0ve seen some recipes, and I know I need more Token generators, but I try to stay with Human-Soldiers as much as possible.

I'm planning on adding Purphoros, Ojer-Taq, Bone-Cairn Butcherer, Isshin... etc

What should I remove or add?
ATP I've removed like 40 precon cards and I realized I now have many instants, so idk what to drop or replace

https://moxfield.com/decks/_dwafxT2KEWbSdUnaOQ_sg
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>>97751839
>Save me gavin, I'm too shit to build a functional deck!
Classic.
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>>97751839
Not a problem with my deck, sucks to be a noob i guess
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I'm building Elf Feet Momy deck
How is it looking?
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>>97751926
Like every other elf-ball deck.
Its a deck that builds itself.
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>>97751926
Looks like a good start. What are the wincons? I'm not familiar with any elf-ball other than Eladamri.
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>>97751879
>6 mana
>doesn't even draw on etb
this is some magical christmasland bullshit if you think you get to trigger this let alone cast it in time when the discard rigger sacs their mindslicer or the myriad other hand dump fuckery
>>97751871
this applies to mld all the same yet it was soft banned away where it's unplayable, unjust
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>>97751958
>you never have it
>your opponents always have it
Ok loser haha
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>>97751958
>Aesi doesn't draw on etb
Some of you have never been on the receiving end of a well built simic landfall pile and it shows
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>>97752001
God this card is just an absolute atrocity.
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>>97748009
the holocaust
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>>97751879
>I know how to build a deck, I jut put landfall: draw in the command zone
Ah yes, the most exciting abilty to have in your command zone. We should all strive to build like that.
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I want to build deck around knights where do i start? What are most fun commander options. Bracket literally doesnt matter.
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>>97752074
We should all strive to know that discard isnt the most broken thing out there though
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>>97751413
Oh, did he speak badly about your special group? How about healing your fee-fee in a safe place outside my reading range you fucking cunt.
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>>97751413
He's right about drag being blackface for women, make a wild guess what the ancient greeks cast for female roles in their plays
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>>97752001
>I always have it
>my opponent never has it
ok loser haha
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>>97752159
And yet the simic player will indeed have it more often than you jimbo
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The real problem is how many badly-designed cards Magic creates with a lot of them being balanced by being unplayably overcosted, and they are now suddenly playable in a format that takes 4x longer.
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>>97752113
>Guys if you counterbuild in the most boring way imaginable you can ignore this extremely unfun strategy.
Cool and if you mull for Force + Pact and lose the game you can stop someone from winning t1 with Rog/Si.
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>have a couple of rattlesnakes on my field, nobody wants to attack me
>other 3 opponents are vomiting permanents non-stop on the battlefield
>eventually they end up killing each other because I'm not considered a threat
>last opponent tries to alpha strike me
>inkshield
why are you not playing aikido?
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>>97751951
wincon
Exsanguinate, still missing Craterhoof, Door of Destinies to make Elfs stronger along with Dionus and proliferate them with Morcant, Maha to make opponent creatures 1 thoughness,

Idk what else could be the wincon
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>>97752311
Things being "unfun" and "boring" are just your opinions, you do not speak for the majority and rightly so, because morons will then ban boardwipes next
>also nice job kingmaking because the tymna kraum will then win with the exact breach thoracle line
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>>97752103
yes
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Someone in my casual pod plays this shit, I know it's banned, but everyone else lets them use it and nobody else sees the problem with it but this card has killed me 5 times when I had the game in the bag.

> Bounces their commander to avoid commander tax from boardwipes
> Saves their best creatures from removal
> Bounces their commander after blocking to negate damage and recasts.
> Bounces my combo piece.
> Bounces my legendary when going for lethal

I swear this is the most toxic card in existence to actually play against. It avoids most of the protection I run since I favor protection over hexproof. I don't know what to do but scoop everytime I see it at this point or make my decks into some autistic hatebear.

Whats the most autistic no mercy deck I can make with cards from the banned list?
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>>97752442
Just run all proxy nbl tinker -> bolas's citadel
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>>97752415
Believe it or not there actually is majority consensus on where something being unfun exceeds the depth it adds to the game. Every card game but Magic has figured this out because the players are still huffing residual copium pretending that looping every resource away from your opponents deserves support.
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>>97752113
It isn't and I play it myself a little in one of my decks. But I won't pretend to push for the easist draw in the command zone as good deck building. That's just your commander solving every problem imagineable.
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>>97752173
and yet mld remains locked away for no good reason when the simic players has it
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>>97752485
>a pokefag is pontificating about good game design
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>>97752505
I wouldn't act so high and mighty when YGO and Pokemon don't have designers claiming Spider-Man was one of their top 10 bestselling sets.
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>>97752314
monoB gonti with deathtouchers might be my new favorite deck
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>>97752511
>he can't read corpospeak
Yep flipping coins and burgers is exactly what you're good for
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>>97752485
Discard is free to be better in a game where players can go positive on card economy more easily. In a game like Yugioh with severely limited draws it's fucked up to imagine a card like Thoughtseize, but in Magic it's no big deal.
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>>97752485
Armageddon and Winter Orb were in Alpha.
the man who invented the game fully intended people to be able to interact with the lands. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean that the rest of us have to acquiesce to your demands.
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>>97752533
Only one of those games is getting another Marvel set.
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>>97752557
>pokemon
>a game
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>>97752543
So true. When are these cards going to be seen again in type 2? I need them for my Modern D&T brew.
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>>97735584
>TQ: What's your most recent deck's archetype?
Jon Irenicus + Relentless Rats. Has all the trigger doublers/copiers and like 18 fucking mana rocks to cast them faster to give them out more because wow I'm drawing so many fucking cards
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>>97752442

lands:
>tectonic edge
>wasteland
>ghostquarter
>demolition field
>dust bowl
>encroaching wastes

and
>urzas cave
lets you fetch any of the above

artifacts:
>pithing needle
>phyrexian revoker
>disruptor flute

there are a few more, all to say that there options for your menstrual melties.
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>>97752442
>Someone in my casual pod plays this shit
Yeah no I'm fine with allowing some silver border cards but I draw the line at cards that are banned for extremely good reasons. There should be zero tolerance for this shit
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>>97750658
I brought this for my friend and it's a pretty good deck
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>>97752511
Yeah YGO just has T0 wins and floodgate tribal as a main archetype, real good job consensusing away the unfun
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Is this one of the best budget/3cmc rocks we've ever gotten? So many people don't run enough removal so it's fantastic in the late game when you have enough lands out and no longer need it
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>>97752826
Yeah and Magic has Lurrus and 2 Marvel sets.
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>>97752984
>activate only as a sorcery
No, its shit.
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>>97752984
3 mana rocks suck. Why would you not simply run 2 mana rocks? There are more than enough of them by now.
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>>97752984
I would rather run Coalition Relic than this.
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>>97752984
I would genuinely rather run an unstable obelisk
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>want to make life drain work without aristocrats
>mono black was successful but a bit too pubstompy, even on a budget
>abzan attempts were fun, but too inconsistent, extreme high but also extreme lows
>all I want to do is to build up a funny army, then start draining people with vito and stuff, but all lifedrain decks are either aristocrats or tokens
is pic related usable for big lifegain and then finishing into big lifedrain?
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>>97752987
Yugioh lore is Marvel tier though
Ofc both are better than the mtg story
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>>97752987
Right, I accept your concession that Magic is better.
>>97753165
>Ofc both are better than the mtg story
lol
not even these days, and certainly not back when magic was good
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>>97753030
>Why would you not simply run 2 mana rocks?
Because I'd never play them on turn 2 because my commander drops on turn 2. So it fits my curve better unless I just care about them being 2 mana to drop on turn 10 or some shit
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>>97753169
What kind of cope is this?
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>>97753175
If you ran 2 mana rocks instead, you could drop two of them on turn 3 instead of just the one. There's really no reason to run 3 cmc rocks nowadays.
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>>97753184
>Boobs and exposed thighs
AIEEEEE MARO SAVE MEEEEEE
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>>97753184
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>>97753184
YGO will never produce a single character as iconic or beloved as Jace.
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>>97753185
They'd have far less utility then.
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>>97753194
Magic cards now:
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>>97753203
Holy fuck this card is Nirvana High Paladin levels of "ten lines of text the card does NOTHING"
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>>97753199
Their utility is that they're mana rocks. You're sacrificing their ability to do their job well for the ability to do another job shittily. Would you rather cast a CMC 5 card turn 4 and have shitty removal on turn 10+ or a CMC 6 card turn 4?
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>>97753203
The fact this card was chaff fills me with nothing but despair recalling how pushed Bloomburrow was.
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>>97753194
>bitch with her tits out
Did they stop censoring the TCG or something?
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>>97749999
>>97751621
My girl is a green thumb. She loves plants, and was curious about my cards recently and picked Fangorn Tree Shepherd, so I'm building a deck for her >>97747793
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>>97753328
Why are you letting her play?
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>>97753195
Yeah Firewall Dragon came close but I don't think YGO ever managed to make anything as hated as the Jacestice League.
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>>97749999
I've only ever seen a single Edgar deck in my entire life and it was played by a cEDH Tranny
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>>97753194
Horrid Creature enjoyers where we at
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>>97752730
>>phyrexian revoker
> Choose a NONLAND card name

Karakas evades a lot of removal.
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>>97753328
I like seeing her thinking face and answering her questions when she's confused about the rules.
Also, fills out my small play group.
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>>97753333
See>>97753405
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>>97747669
drag is funny and realistic though, stop being a salty sally. There's so many real legitimate issues with WoTC some drag queens aren't even one of them.
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>>97753698
Something something, they're putting dragqueens onto my cards to make the children gay, something something
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>>97751499
This.90% of Players have always been shitter bitches, it's just more visible now because everyone can complain online about it.
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>>97752538
By the same token Yugioh has crazy shit like vomiting your entire hand in one turn and winning before your opponent can go since it's a shit game.
In magic discard is only a problem when everyone is gassed. And in EDH people tend to build to gas themselves.
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>>97735759
>universes beyond: the Epic of Gilgamesh
>universes beyond: Settlers of Catan
I would whale for these unironically
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>>97753698
There is nothing wrong with hating something THO
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>>97747669
Probably to make you seethe desu
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>>97753698
>some drag queens aren't even one of them
there's something wrong when people are so anal about you letting them do the thing, that you should restrain yourself in a children's card game, while at the same time being so shamelessly public with their deviancy
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>>97753184
Kozmo was lowkey kinda goated theming.
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>>97753771
Is thre a way to recreate this theme in commander?
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>>97753789
Magic isn't based enough to actually put an original spin on the material it's copying. You would just end up with a random mashup of cards with two separate themes.
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>>97753789
wotc show exposed thighs in the big '26? haha
remember when chandra showed some legs? wotc doesn't want you to recall!
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>>97753698
>drag is funny and realistic
statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged
>There's so many real legitimate issues with WoTC some drag queens aren't even one of them
this can be true and we can also aim at wotc and line up some other legitimate targets behind them to take purposeful strays, like men in dresses and 'my personality is being hard gay's and dragonfuckers.
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>>97751222
Dumbshit ESL poster lmao.
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Do cards that are transformed have cmc zero or same as the front
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>>97753855
I wanna say they use the cmc of their front face
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>>97753855
They retain the CMC of the frontside.
However, if something were to clone the backside, that card's cmc is zero.
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This seems like a fun commander.
Is there any way I can give my opponents islands, or should I just run stuff to make her unblockable?
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>>97753158
yes
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>>97754308
Flood counters
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>>97754308
>Is there any way I can give my opponents islands
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>>97754354
Moxfield considers this card to be Bracket 4 on the basis that it's "mass land denial."
Would anyone really throw a fit if I ran this in a Bracket 2 though?
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>>97754535
>Would anyone really throw a fit if I ran this in a Bracket 2 though?
yes, believe me they will
just go play spreading seas or something
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>>97752442
And if you run the lands the other anon suggested, I would also run opposition agent. Your friends are idiots for letting him play Karakas.
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>>97751499
90s and pre-2007 players weren't. Magic players (and nerds in general) started to become effeminate fags post Lorwyn.
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>>97754639
>post lorwyn
it's actually around 2012, when big red started to pop up and "sjw" started floating around
coincidentally that's when RTR was released, and with it came a marked flanderizaton in the story; everything started to feel sanitized and politically correct at that time
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>>97754535
Nah, it's fine. Only sweats will cry about it and anyone trying to play with a full deck of shocks and fetches deserves to have their day ruined.
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>>97754535
>Would anyone really throw a fit if I ran this in a Bracket 2 though?
Yes, tryhard losers are the whiniest of bitches. Your friends would definitely get a kick out of it, though
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>>97754639
>90s and pre-2007 players weren't.
90s players whined so hard wotc made the reserve list lmao
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>>97754658
2012 was just the year even the densest retard finally noticed things had gone to shit. It wasn't an overnight shift though, and all the myriad problems that eventually coalesced into the faggification of pop culture were rooted in the late 2000s, with '07 being the first year the change was most visible and pronounced to anyone paying attention.
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>>97754658
>SJW movement
>politically correct stuff
God it was such a horrible time to be left leaning because I was always grouped in with these insufferable cunts. Thank god it's mostly died off, kinda.
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>>97754710
Nah the reserve list was pushed top down. The designers have always used the game to enrich themselves. You're delusional if you don't think those guys weren't printing extra copies of cards they knew were going to get reserve listed and selling them over the years.
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>>97754535
bracket 2 is the most try hard bracket
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Can I have duplicates in my Sideboard for EDH or is that a no-no?
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>>97754911
yes
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>>97754911
no, sideboards don't exist in EDH
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>>97755089
But then what about cards that interact with cards outside of the game?
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>>97755112
They don't work.
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>>97754793
yea
brackets were the best thing happen to this game solely thanks to the gamechangers list
they can FINALLY ban problem cards without spergs going on a crusade like with dockside/crypt
my win percent has significantly gone up too because retards don't know how to build decks without their crutch cards
GOD I love bracket 2 and the price of switching ruination in to strip mine loops is more than fine
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>>97754793
>bracket 2 is the most try hard bracket
I thought Bracket 2 was supposed to be the for fun bracket where I can bring my favorite scrimblo commanders
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>>97755114
actually they do?
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Which Miku is the most viable?
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>>97753242
They never did you Quaker.
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>>97755198
some of them have alternate rules for formats without sideboards, like cards with the "learn" keyword.
edh does not have a sideboard, so no access to cards from outside your library.
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>>97755177
Bracket 2 is for the angle shooters and the people who think they are bracket 2 but legit should be in bracket 1.
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>>97755225
Every bracket 3 game I've ever played has had someone crying about losing as if we're supposed to let them perform their gameplan with impunity, that never happens in Bracket 2
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>>97755201
Child of Alara fucking sucks ass and only enables your opponents to deny you from assembling all your Vocaloid cards at once like some sort of autistic Exodia. I wish we had gotten her as Jodah instead, the original one. But if I had to choose I guess Brago for all the "encore" ETB effects.
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>>97755177
you thought wrong, my good bitch. it's just the most powerful decks with an extended (correct) banlist and sandbagging your combos
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I would like to try making a deck that gives everyone life, but it doesn't seem like there's many cards that do that...
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>>97755368
ok
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>>97755456
thanks
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>>97755368
https://scryfall.com/search?q=otag%3Aopponent-lifegain&unique=cards&utm_source=tagger
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>>97753194
>the first set of Yugioh ever printed
vs
>literally the next set
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>>97754658
Also around the time Moot and Epstein had a meeting, leading to the creation of /pol/.
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Is isshin attack triggers really too much for b3 fags? I've had people crash out over
>getting GNOMED by anim parallel
>getting sniper by Craig Boone
>getting burnt by Caeser, legions emporer
>getting 2 cards ripped off their deck with Italian (understandable desu)
>voice of victory existing
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>>97755666
b3 is full of coping shitters, so yes.
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>>97754692
Even Precons are 80% non basics, do they deserve it too?
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>>97755795
They are dumb enough to play a precon, so yeah.
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>>97735584
he spulcs what?
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>>97756191
>>97756191
>>97756191
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>>97755666
Isshin can explode really hard, but b3 should be able to handle him.
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>>97735629
They already made a version in the test cards for the Mysteyr booster.
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>>97735759
I wouldn't mind if they did more public domain UBs or SLDs. I know they'll just make the same shit as they did for the Dracula cards, but at least they'll be able to just have the actual freedom they seem to want to just make the characters look like anything they want.
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>>97735759
>universes beyond: Fritz Lang's Metropolis
This would get me
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>>97735759
All of those instead of lorwyn, strixhaven, edge of eternites and tarkir



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