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>>98000938>TQBecause as awful as it is everywhere else is even worse.
>>98000938So 70 detachments and we saw what, 12, for SM and some variant chapters this preview? What do you expect the final breakdown to be?
>>98000938I like orks :D
>>98000938can't really shout into the void to voice my displeasure even if no one here would read it or take it seriously
How posable are the multikit terminators
>>98000953> 2E was herohammer and eldar bullshit> 3E was rhino rush> 4E was fish of fury and holofalcon clown cars> 5E was transporthammer, wolftime, leafblower, gay knights and wound allocation> 6E was taudar and flyerhammer> 7E was detachmenthammer, invisibility and Eldar bullshit> 8E was detachmentspam and Marines: the return> 9E was ???> 10E was ???
>>98000938>TQMore or less what >>98000950 said, I sometimes hate it here but it's the only place where I can still feel something on the internet.
>>980009639e was power creep after power creep 10th was uh…honestly vehicles were the strongest they were in the longest time.
>>98000962You’re going to have to be more specific, there are six different factions with terminators.
>>98000963I think 9th was unironically the best the game has been since 4th.
>>98000975Which one of them are the most customizable, ignoring shoulder pad shit.
>>98000938GREAT NEWS ANON YOU HAVE BEEN HIRED BY GAMES WORKSHOP AS A WRITERYour Main Task? Make Mortarion more interesting. What are (you) proposing?
>>98000950This
>>98000963>1E was...I don't know we are figuring it out game propably won't last
>>98000938>Why do you keep using this forum instead of the other options to discuss 40k?Discords always turn into circlejerks and cuddlepuddles where one or more people will always have more power and demand things be their way or you leave. Reddit has terrible formatting, upvotes and a community hivemind that accepts nothing but the "heckin best" and will stomp anything they dislike. Classical forums are fun, but most are dead and gone. 4chan is probably the best place for most discussions, outside of tripfags, namefags and their vile ilk.
>>98000982I’d rather be in charge of writing for maggotkin before I touch anything in relation to deathguard. If I really have to write for Morty uh….idk I have him hunt down psyker ships that are supposed to be for big Es mukbang sessions and see where it goes from there.
>>98000963I hope 11th is rhino rush too.
>>98000982I couldn't care less about him
>>98001004Rushing itself into oop scalper hands
>>980009639e was whoever could throw out more mortal wounds at eachother or Necrons winning the game T1 before you moved.
>>98000938>TQIt's the best we have. Other places are too heavily policed or full of consoomers
>>980009805th was still better but yeah. 9th just needed a refactor to consolidate all the supplements and USRs. But instead we got... 10th.
Psychic Disciplines are back!>in a space marine only detachment>you only get one at a time>they're lame minor buffsKEK AT NU-40K FAGS!
>>98001013This Detachment has existed for like a year and a half already. They just updated it for 11th. You probably just didn't recognize it because Space Marine players never use anything but Gladius.
Recently lost my job, haven't been able to sleep in the last two days. The call of the void rings stronger than ever.Faction for me?
>>98001020Dark Eldar
>>98001020GSC
>>98000938>TQBecause at least i can say what i truly think here
>>98000938I'm now curious.What is the Warhammer 40k community and specific groups of 40k communities on Reddit like? >TQSomehow for all the wrong reasons this website has become the best place to talk about interests and in this case 40k because the alternatives have gotten worse.Reddit has a bad upvoting system that doesn't just encourage but makes it almost necessary to chase whatever makes posts get upvotes.Twitter and other similar spots are not really forums. Though discussion can be had, they don't really count as forums to me.Old school forums are basically a endangered species teetering on extinction.And there is something 'liberating' about not having a username attached to one's posts that gives an extra layer of liberating anonymity.Yes a lot of people abuse it.But in my case it is whenever I screw up and make regrettable posts (I have many times on this site and in other spots) I can at least say that it will be extra difficult to trace me because of no usernames. It is possible, but it is harder.
I like grots
>>98001020>death guard>all Mandrake Dark Eldar army>Raven Guard
>>98001033They should just make female goblins with big butts.
>>980009639e was "just have good army secondaries lol" 10e was certified elder bullshit, half the core rules had to be rewritten for them and epic hero hammer
>>98001033Why did they gove greenskins black nails?
>>98001020Sounds like GSC the loser army, anon
>>980009553 each for Space Marines, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Space Wolves, Black Templar and 1 each for Deathwatch, Ultramarines, Imperial Fists, Salamanders, Raven Guard, Iron Hands, and White ScarsSo 22 out of 70 will be Space Marines alone.3 are Orks leaving 55 unknown for 22 factions. That's a bit fewer than 3 per faction. Probably 17 get 3 each and 4 get 1 each with nothing for Chaos Demons. The four that only get 1 will probably be Chaos Knights, Imperial Knights, Imperial Agents, and Drukhari.
>>98001052That is such a fucked distribution.
Battleshock is being updated to do the following>Battleshock every turn until you pass a check>Fire snapshots while battleshocked
>>98001027Most of it is Regurtitated memes and circle jerks.(There is also a Rouge Subreddit foll of chuds that gets banned from time to time) Which is diffrent from for example facebook groups(yes they still exist) who post shit like Pic related with no hint of irony. There is also r/PrimarchGF and there you are more likely find some semblence of inteligent disscoission then on Mainstream subs.
Shat me pants and plopped out me missus anal beads, armies for this feel?
>>98001020Imperial (Temp) Agents
>>98001052Oh wait, I counted Orks already so there's only 21 factions. So probably Chaos Demons will get one instead of Drukhari who will still get three.
>>98001059space wolves
>>98000981Depends on what you’re looking for, but moving from bottom to top.All of them have predetermined leg poses.Scarab Occult Terminators have posable waistlines, and the rest have set torsos to each leg poses, which has become the norm for most infantry now, SOTs are just old and likely getting replaced in a few years.Chaos Terminators, and SOTs have better arm posability, because they’re older, and the rest have pegs or little corner shaped attachments for the arms.Finally, you can swap heads and shoulders on all of them still.This is all just as is in the kit, though. The arm pegs are easily shaved off to glue arm poses any way you want on newer terminators, but I’d probably use CA glue for that, since the arms will have little divots in them which inhibits bonding.I think the newer terminator poses are worth losing the waistline posability, but that’s a matter of opinion, the wolf guard ones are really good and ripe for converting to other factions.
>>98001057Oh boy.
>>98001058>Which is diffrent from for example facebook groupAs in no better at all...sounded better when I wrote it Fuck I am tired. I need to sleep.
I like orks :D
>battleshock forces snap shotsOh it's all coming together.
Got this little curiosity in the mail today.It's not the complete set, but it was cheap enough to be worth getting it.
>>98001020Heads up, your jobless wallet is looking at spending 1000-1200 USD on kits and supplies to build 2000 points.But go with Dark Angels, Teutonic Terminators is a hell of a time.
>>98001093I can finally paint this guy now.
>>98001058>There is also r/PrimarchGF and there you are more likely find some semblence of inteligent disscoission then on Mainstream subs.I just love how some fanartists for 40k can basically spawn an entire subculture.Those female anime primarch fanarts just have it all.And as much as I want to be a good 2D drawing artist I don't think I could create a subculture like that if I set out to after getting properly good at drawing animu.That kind of stuff happens usually when people don't intend to set out to accomplish that.And how is r/PrimarchGF a place where actual intelligent discussion happens more often than the more popular subplebbits?>>98001080Don't worry about it.I'll make you feel better about your blunder by admitting to a bigger blunder below.>>98001059>armies for this feel?The answer is always the Imperial Guard no matter what.>shat me pantsUnironically I did once. Thought it was a fart to be let out and decided to let it out and let out a bit more without intention.Now if I have to fart I go to the toilet room no matter what. As if going there just to pick my nose was excessive enough.Does anybody have that Warhammer 40k Nurgle Greentext of an autist so devoted to Nurgle that he mixed his poo with his paints?
>>98001057Now they only need to bring back the mental stats from necromunda/30k.
>>98001106And the entire box contents
>BIG BOLD LETTERS highlighting IMPORTANT THINGSOh yeah, this edition is perfect for my autism
Can't they just buff all assault cannons to gatling cannons so they don't suck for no reason?
>>98001057Blatantly fake leak, nu-GW would NEVER make morale matter
>>98001123What's that metal thing in the lower right?
>>98001129It's from WarCom. Now if they announce wargear costs again I will dare have some hope for the future.
>>98001132Photoetched brass, you sometimes see those in scale building scene, rarely in tabletop bussiness.
>>98001140Why’d a demon prince come with photo etched tank parts?
>>98001149Daemon Prince wasn't part of the box, duh.
>>98001138Which article?
>>98001158The video in the space marine faction focus article.
Bros what the fuck is snapshot
>Stealth simply gives cover, stacking Stealth + Cover already confirmed not possibleI said as much from the moment they revealed the cover changes. I cannot BELIEVE that anyone actually believed they were gonna let entire armies have constant -2 to hit.
>>98001159The guy in video only mentions battleshock saying it doesn't clear at the start if turn now and then likens it the rule pinning in the old edition where you have to test to get unpinned and you couldn't move and only fire snapshots. Of course people have now run rampant with this and are saying battleshock now causes snapshots withouth any actual proof this is the case.
>>98001170You only hit on 6's
>>98001170Only hit on unmodified 6s and can only target within 24 inches.
>>98001170Nu-overwatch.
>>98001177I guess the niche of stealth is being good at moving from cover to cover, or cucking enemies out of their +1 to hit while in cover
Just saw the article, why the fuck did they put Calgar of all people in Armageddon?
so, hypothetically, let's say my lgs is small and the majority of people there want to practice for the next tournament they want to travel to. as some one who has hobbied a little and would prefer narrative battles, will my list thus needs be tournament tier as well to defend against shenanigans? i have a little bit of everything space marines infantry because i think they're neat
>>98001204Ultramarine(TM) Space Marine Captain Titus(TM) is already leading the 500 Worlds Campaign(TM) so Marneus Calgar(TM) needs to be present at the Armageddon Campaign(TM) which will be expanded upon by the coming release of Warhammer 40,000(TM): Armageddon(TM)(TM)
After Robby and Lion, who's the next Primarch to return?
>>98001204because they want this conflict to feel important, or they want as many people to be present as to not have the eventual fall of armageddon be a damning jobbing for whatever few characters or subfactions were there
>>98001224My money's on the lion but the khan would be funnier given the DEldar rumors
>>98001224Reminder that Dorn and Russ will return as tanks
>>98001230>The lionI meant Russ, I'm just retarded
>>98001231ROBOOTY GIRLYMAN COMMAND TANK WHEN
How is Jobzgull Cucka going to defeat all these famous Imperial characters? He can't even beat a no-name Space Wolf captain in a duel?
>>98001241I like making fun of the orks as much as the next guy but Ragnar is far and away the biggest Mary Sue in the Mary Sue SM chapter, it was bound to happen
>>98001224khan. one of the dawn of fire gave a prophecy or some shit on the order.
>>98001204honestly kind of cool, do you think they’ll give him the yarrick treatment and finally refresh his model because he’s going to be so prominent in the 11th edition battlezone?
>>98001224The most obvious answers are either Rush or Khan, but seeing the amount of ork things happening I can see them bringing Vulcan to do a war of the Beast 2
>>98001231I am still convinced that the rogal dorn is just a primaris/upscaled leman russ.It's the same tank with less options but bigger, named after a primarch for this exact reason
>>98001205The only thing you need to be “tournament tier,” as space marines is two RepEx’s and at least one squad of terminators.
>>98001230>>98001234Wait what were the rumors? Is he having fun in Commoragh?
>>98001224Corvus Corax, we've already seen one of his rejected designs
>>98001272DEldar are getting a rumored refresh and DEldar fags are always keen on insisting to SMfags that the Khan has been turned into Vects couch, so the Khan coming back would make them all seethe and it would be funny
>>98001057>>Fire snapshots while battleshockedif you got this from the space marine faction focus video, you may have misheard. the snapshot thing was about the old pinning rule.
>>98001204AND THE GREATEST OF THEM ALLWERE THE ULTRAMARINES
>>98001057So "pinned"?
>>98001204>Get in Titus. We've got to go back to Armageddon. Back to the Second War.
dark eldar refresh soon
>>98001321Why don't GW do more sexy characters like this?
>>98001321Obviously. It was only a matter of time. People are just impatient. It's only been... 20 years?!
>>98001271not exactly a fan of the anti-grav tanks. i got a kratos battle tank, a redemptor, and a ballists for vehicles so far. obviously way more points, but would that make up for it if i threw in some hellblasters or something?
Where are you guys reading about stealth/cover not stacking, the new snapshot thing, etc?All I'm seeing is the space marine preview.
>>98000938TQ: Stockholm syndrome.
>>98001347They sneak in little rules change previews to those so autists make more fuss about them and youtubers can make videos like WHAT GW DOESN'T WANT YOU TO KNOW ABOUT THE SPACE MARINE PREVIEW.
>>98001338They're trying to appeal to the asian market and Chinese people love censorship so much that sales increase when you censor games for them and they cry for censorship when devs don't censor.
>>98001275I thought he lost his mind and transformed into some sort of vengeance minded warp beast hunting down Lorgar, I don’t think they intended that sculpt to be him unless it was for HH.
Where were you when AI makes better art than GW
>>98001179Because that's how battleshock should work.
>>98001359OK but all the Chinese games have goonercore female characters with huge T&A who wear nothing.
>>98001362pic unrelated
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98001343
>>98001367That is why they sell in Japan but not China. For China, you need to start censoring designs because there are recorded cases where swimsuits got added but Chinese players reported it to their government for censoring.
>>98001372>>>>
>>98001224Primarchs were a mistake.
Why has GW been pushing the ultramarines so much in 10th and now 11th?
Reminder that this is the best showing Astartes Knives have ever gotten.
>>98001380why are his eyes so small
>>98001321Would wyches models look like her?
>>98001224Ghazghul will be the next Primarch when his head gets bolted to the corpse of Ferrus Manus
>>98001362>>98001380As if I needed more demoralization on taking up drawing after a bit model painting.I do plan on trying 3D model AI to "archive" some models.
>>98001385>Why has GW been pushing the ultramarinesYes, grass is green and the sky is blue.
>>98001375i don't care how meta james makes them, i refuse treadless tanks
>>98001386Motherfuckers will see this and think it should be replaced with primaris.
>>98001389Your wyches are going to follow the fantasy Blood hags and end up in heavy armor in their new incarnation, just like your codex art
>>98001386That vanilla would be better if it was french vanilla instead.
>>98001321This is honestly such a cool design and its kind of unfathomable GW can design it and yet be completely unable to produce it in miniature form
>>98001395Even if it was primaris marines it'd still be cool.
>>98001389No will look like this.
>>98001338Violence and gore good, boobs and female skin bad. Anglo protestant logic.>>98001359Not true has nothing to do with China
>>98001385They are simply the best, no chapter can compete.
>>98001424>Anglo protestant logic.*American logic
>>98001424So i can have bugs laying eggs inside alive human beings and Slaanesh rampant full on drugs and shit but half naked elfs are problematic? That's beyond any logic and puritanism
>>98001429Brits are the same
>>98001430Yes? Why do you think you have shit like mortal kombat as mainstream and nobody bats an eye but showing a nipple in videogames makes a game gooner porn to their eyes
>some detachments don't have stratagems>mfw you can play the game without a single stratagem for the first time in 10 years
>>98001431just because bongs will get stabbed in the street like sheep doesn't mean they are happy with violence/gore in media. we are in the exception, not the rule.
>>98001441You still have core ones.
>>98001321its kinda funny that in midschool i wanted to get dark eldar and pushed myself trying to get monetary diploma in sports for thatand now when im financially stable i still have like 80% of the same models to buy, only really missing preferential archon helmet and lelith model
>>98001439What if we have on camera sex but no nipples?
>>98001459No point whiteknighting on here
they're gonna show off male wyches and secondaries are gonna freak
>>98001338Legit because of woke shit. People still seem to entirely forget that we are still in the times where making sexy female characters in mainstream media is considered a cardinal sin because it's "sexist" because it's "for the male gaze" (bad because men are evil, sexist, perverted monsters)Like go look at some of the modern AAA games that were made in the last 10-15 years by studios like Ubisoft, EA, etc.Same shit is happening with the western comic industry and other stuff.>>98001359It has literally fuck all to do with the chinese. The chinks literally DO NOT give a fuck if some female character looks hot and shows off some skin.For fuck sakes, the most POPULAR games from china currently are stuff like Genshin Impact, Zenless Zone, games which are made by the MiHoYo studio. And 100% of the female characters in those games are very attractive and beautiful looking, and the devs don't hesitate to make some goonbait characters either.Nevermind the fuck loads of gacha shit that also comes out of there, where the main selling gimmick is to make very attractive, basically gooner bait, characters. Said games which are also INCREDIBLY popular, not just in China but all over the damn world.How the hell do you not know this? Anyone who's even, remotely, keeping up with gaming news, knows the absolute retardation of what the western game devs have gotten themselves into with pointless political virtue signaling.Regardless, Warhammer 40,000.
haha what if GW made Custodes that only wear their helmets and a loincloth... haha just kidding unless?...
>>98001476only if it's buff men.
>>98001459>>98001469You need professional help, brother.
>>98001478that was the hope, yes
The sexy wych art is commissioned fanart actually, 90% of which is just various edgy space marines. GW could and would never.
>>98001482Oh no, tits!!! James call the police!!!!
>>98001482NONOT TITSAAAAAUGH
>>98001481i'd start a custodes army if they released that.but they'd have to retcon the gay girl shit first.
>>98000982I would have changed HH morty to be an actual leper, trying to do as much as he can before he dies of his sickness. Having death guard be leper knights woulda been cool. Then he betrays the imperium to survive his sickness.
>>98000938>TQGive me a better place.Explain why it's better.
>>98001224>>98001230Russ will appear in the Votann centric War Khan+Curze will both be in Commorragh as slave gladiatorsDorn will just walk in and start repairing the Golden Throne without bothering to explain what he was doing then disappears Vulkan will be found by Trazyn and they will have an adventure where Trazyn pretends he's Dorn
>>98001359Chang developers love waifu shit like the rest of us and will put them into Chinese games with no shame. GW's real fear is blue-hair twitter activists, who somehow managed to convince western media that sexy women aren't marketable anymore.
>>98001473>Darktide>Where your characters are penniless crackheads in a penal battalionFatshark have a style and is clearly never been attractive women, or characters in general.
What is this meme about, the void dragon? Or is there some other truth so terrible at the bottom of the noctis labyrinth?
Are we finally free?
>>98000982Mortarion and Typhus engage in crude fart humor as they musically roast each other everytime they meet.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XkbL0JzMbk
>>98001506What the fuck is going on with the crotch there
>>98001508The emperor trapped the void dragon shard under mars so the cult of the mechanicum would later rise.
>>98001482AAAAH! AAAHH! TITS! MY EYES! MY INNOCENT EYES!Quick! Where is my skinned face murder cultist? WHERE IS- ahhh... Much better.
>>98001514That's the horrible ching-chong censorship anon was crying about. I guess it's supposed to be a pastie or something
>>98001511no, we’re here forever.
>>98001507I would face fuck Sienea while that other old hag watches. warhammer 40k faction for this feel?
>>98001511Doubt it, he'll probably start shitposting in a couple days. But I do hope I'm wrong and he finally fucked off forever
>>98001518Epic kek
i just want to know what the fundamentals of a good list are without dipping into tournament faggotry
>>98001530Fuck in 40k? Ultramarines lol
>>98001508It's about the Void Dragon.I guess it's meant to imply that the Void Dragon will awaken and then take over anyone who has cybernetic implants installed into them.But that is purely and entirely just baseless speculation, aka fucking made up fanfiction.Only thing we know about the Void Dragon that is trapped within the Noctis Labyrinth are>that it is a shard of C'tan of the same name>the Emperor battled the C'tan shard when it came to earth from space long long long time ago, like thousands of years ago before modern day>the Emperor defeated it, but couldn't kill it, so he took it to Mars and imprisoned>the dragon currently is "sleeping"/dormant within the Noctis Labyrinth>there is a secret sect of the mechanicus who stay hidden from the rest of the organization which has existed for thousands of years, and they specifically guard the Void Dragon to keep people *away* from it, knowing its dangerThe whole "it will take over your cybernetics" is pure fanfiction, and this meme is just meant to be spooky and creepy.
>>98001541Glad you're happy anon.I'm still brainstorming how to properly proxy krieg veterans as them.Or where to start.Or finding STLs to get the job done.
>>98001427I mean Ultramarines are cool, they just need less dick sucking from GW and videogames so people stops getting tired of them
>>98001546>aka fucking made up fanfictionNTA butWhat are some fanfictions/fantheories that are now believed to be canon among 40k secondaries that are particularly infuriating to you?
>>98001359>Chinese people love censorshipAnon, one of the biggest cultural icons in the gaming sphere is a gacha with characters like thisJust because the CCP orders people to censor their games doesn't mean the developers and comsumers actually like itIt's like a Chinese person thinking that everyone in America and the UK love how the plastic Repentia look
>>98001556Not many, I don't particularly care if someone writes up some dumb fanfiction because I don't read it. Only 40k fanfiction I have ever read in any capacity is smut.Most of them are harmless anyway and most people are well enough aware that lot of fanfic stuff is just fanfic stuff.
>>98001533he’s on reddit where they’re currently giving him all the attention he desires, and most importantly giving him praise which makes it paradise for him. sadly, he’s going to come back because reddit doesn’t like people who incessantly repost their models, and they’ll eventually catch on that he’s a histrionic psycho, and ban him which means he’ll have to crawl back here.
Who stacking anti-infantry instead of skewing melee next edition?
>>98001551>I mean Ultramarines are cool
>>98001551Neat model. It's simple but primaris just do look cool to me.
>I'm... le sad!
>>98001590He is a Blood Angel, I would be sad too with that box...
>>98001590I would also be sad knowing the BA failed to protect Sanguinius.
>>98001204>1000 marine chapters (1,000,000 astartes)>Ultramarine 1st and 2nd company (200 fellas) are the only ones to do shit.
>>98001204The answer is always smurf wank. The Black Templars, Salamanders and Space Wolves can't even have Armageddon to their name. Not in this economy.
>>98001597>astartes
>>98001117Im so devoted to slaneesh I mix tiny specs of precum in my EC but poo seems a bit too solid and invasive to really be able to even mix with paint to begin with
>>98001590That's lamenters, it's in the name
>>98001613
So, Dark Angels' chapter trait is just S+1 Plasma now?
>>98001204>why the fuck did they put Calgar of all people in Armageddon?Because nowadays GW is insistent on shilling their shit as much as possible. The bean counter/executive faggots think and genuinely BELIEVE, that if GW doesn't shove EVERY faction into EVERY warzone in the lore, they think all the factions *not included*, in a given conflict, won't sell at all.Yes, they are GENUINELY this fucking stupid.Which then results in every warzone and conflict just devolving into bland, grey, mush, with no discernable features.It's what happened with Pariah Nexus, it was perfectly fine with being an Imperium vs Necrons conflict. But then GW forces Vashtorr and chaos into it, which just caused the entire narrative to become a yet another "imperium vs chaos" and necrons got sidelined.
>>98001629Precum works great with shade/wash paints in general, never tried it as a sole replacement though
>>98001637Yes, thank god. None of this insane shit about unkillable knights each with his own unique weapon.
post models
>>98001645They still have knights. The DA just are too pragmatic to go all in on melee like a bunch of tards.
>>98001640i wonder how RoI fared given that most of it is IW vs Fists/Hands/AdMech
>Chapter command didn't deploy the flag guy?>Eh, it's okay guys, we can half ass this one!Marines fighting harder near the ancient implies they fight with apathy without one. Battle flags exist not for inspiration or morale, but for command purposes: it conveys the positions of officers and give you an idea of where your guys are.
>>98001646
>>980009539th was damage caps10th has been combos
>>98001673ew
>>98001590literally me
>>98001646do they need to be good looking models
>red triangles on everything (nazis now welcome) >dindu Blood Angels (Bluds)>fat dad bod nipple orks (why does fungus need nipples)This is a "lowkey" stealth woke release
>>98001665stop being as retarded as a woman looking for a reason to have an argument
>>98001699please rephrase with no buzzwords
>>98001699>why does fungus need nipplesork females breastfeed the young uns
>>98001699>>fat dad bod nipple orks (why does fungus need nipples)same reason human men have nipples, it's a holdover the old ones didn't make orks from fungi, they made them from a mammalian baseline AND fungi
>>98001713they really going to make the orks trans mpreg shit huh.Fucking trannies i swear to god
>>98001724anon... you realise having nipples is a sex characteristic that means your species has male and female sex. Its a female sex characteristic
one of the gw sculptors is some sort of faggot bara fetishist, see the kroxigor
>>98001732what I'm quite explicitly trying to tell you is that orks have nipples for the same reason human males have nipples: men have nipples because women need nipples and it's easier genetically for both genders to carry them than to have them exclusively in one.orks have nipples because the females of their species had nipples before the old ones experimented on them and added the fungal elements removing the need for females, and the nipples on males stuck around in the same way nipples on human men would still be around if the species suddenly stopped reproducing and raising children via women, but some other artificial addition.
>>98001646can you post the alligator close up? she looks so sexy.
>>98001752Anon you're fucking retarded you aren't telling anyone anything.You don't understand biology, men have nipples because humans start off female in the womb. Its not "gyneticolly" you fucking dunning-kruger spastic. Its hormones.If you have nipples your species reproduce sexually. That means theres males and females. Theres no female orks. Orks are asexual fungi spawn.Stop defending GWs retarded retcon decisions you fucking moron tranny
>>98001713>only 50% of old orks reproduce >only a small percentage of Orks reach old age to begin with How did someone write this without considering the implications this would have on the species reproductive strength?
What killed the hype? We got updated tacticals finally
So... they just retconned Angron's second invasion to Armageddon? The fuck?
>>98001752why do people like you exist seriously. You just make up shit like a school yard kid, pulling crap out of your ass like you are an expert on every topic. Its like some autistic narcissism disorder. You are fat aren't you?
>>98001778No we don't. What the fuck even makes you think that?
>>98001665Anon, it's just flavor text to make the flag guy seem more cooler than he is.>this flag is so cool and holy and important that the already hypno indoctornated, super brutal super soldiers become even MORE fanatical, and super brutal in fighting due to how cool and holy and important the flag isIt's just filler and pulp to make the unit more cooler tha it actually is.
>>98001665>Battle flags exist not for inspiration or morale, but for command purposes:
Sounding like Torrent will also be affected by snap shots. Gonna be half the number of shots rounding up.
>>98001391Why would it be demoralizing, The fact that the mona lisa exist doesn't make me not want to paint my own models.This sort of defeatist attitude means you don't really want to draw in the first place. Because if you enjoyed doing it, you wouldn't feel threatened by other works.
>>98001767>You don't understand biologytrust me, I know more than you>humans start off female in the wombbullshit reduction of a far more complex situation, at no point you "start off" female, at best you have a momentary overlap of both male and female sexual structures before some get altered or eliminated during development, what gynocentric revisionist told you that lie?>Theres no female orksthere were, that's what being uplifted from a mammalian species, and then having algal/fungal symbiotic elements added to the physiology, implies
>>98001767Hey retard they've been modeling nipples on orks since at least 2006.
>>98001781>AngronWho? Did he fight Calgar at some point?
>>98001769It says 50% of orks gone wild develop pouches, not that 50% of orks gone wild reproduce.It means the other half humps them.
>>98001800Why would they be affected? They automatically hit.
>>98001825I think they're the same guy.
>>98001815no you dont. Just stfu you idiot.
>>98001556the lamentar battlecry
>>98001699I keep seeing these EVIL FUCKING RED TRIANGLES on the road that have been put thereto signify how much the government wants to KILL THE WHITE RACE im going to ram my car full speed straight into that turn because the JEWS want to convince me that there's an unfinished bridge at the end of it but oh boy do I know better! It's their SECRET LAIR!
>>98000938>TQI'd rather have negativity and unfiltered shitposting than something as ungenuine, filtered, and censored as reddit or any other more moderated forum.
>>98001847do you even know what red triangles means you retard?Its a pro-palestine dog whistle, you are either actually retarded or being disingenuous bringing up le "white race".You communist bedwetting spastic
>>98001839>is wrong >gets corrected >cries
>>98000938The same reason I use this forum for anything, OP. To try to destroy Games Workshop.
>>98001789I wouldn't mind if it was an aura of Fearless equivalent. But when it is "models get to attack on death (sometimes)", I don't know what to do with that - it implies my guys need to die to benefit at all.I'd rather spend the Ancient's points into getting stronger guys to kill the enemy with. Boys before toys, right?
>>98001646Thanks to the guy who told me to just edit my photos a little instead of being a lazy shit.
>>98001787>in the name>mixed marks
>>98001866you didnt correct anyone dunning kruger spastic. Just in your own clueless mind.
>>98001665And knowing where your guys are and where your command is gives you a clearer picture of the situation and reaffirms you that there's friendlies and officers about. As in, improves morale and unit cohesion. Romans had a whole host of standard bearers (signiferi) who had their own jobs and standards from plain cloth banner with the legion emblem (vexillarius) to carrying the Roman eagle (aquilifer) or the image of the emperor (imaginifer).
>>98001859>if you are pro-palestine>you are a commie???
>>98001882how come the ork has nipples?
In just over an hour, I will be meeting up with a buyer to sell my final 40k army. In just over an hour I will be free of 40k completely. Feels amazing. Not a fuck GW guy as I am switching to another GW game instead.
>>98000938>TQIt is valuable to know what schizos believe and how they think in order to quickly identify them in the wild.
>>98001888That post is utterly retarded. Red-triangles are something Nazis put on political prisoners, so it's a typically anti-Nazi symbol (typically left-wing but not exclusively). Some pro-Palestine left-wingers use it, but they were using it anyway.
>>98001882Do you still think people "start out as female"? Or that there's no piece of fluff that suggests orks were a primate-like animal engineered to be in symbiosis with fungal elements? Because I've posted both by now.
>>98001896Good luck with age of sigmar and on coming out as gay to your family.
>>98001887Must be semantics, because I talk Ld about Information, not Morale as emotional positivity. Marines, who are not people, always fight at 100%. As such, they can't fight any more than they already do.Their base speed already is "No pity no remorse no fear"
>>98001893they shouldnt, you can even see on old models and art they have no nipples
>>98001825No no that's Anggarath that cool FW Bloodthirster that actually looked cool
>>98001852There is no such thing as a website without a filter. An anonymous, largely unmoderated place like 4chan ends up full of the unmedicated and the dregs, people who were filtered from everywhere else. These people then drive out (aka, filter) anyone who can't tolerate dealing with their shit.
>>98001912TOW actually, Orcs and Goblins if you must know. I would never touch Smegmar. Smegmar is just fantasy 40k, and I am quitting 40k because I don’t enjoy the game itself. I still really enjoy 40k as a setting. I am going into TOW because of how different it is from 40k.
>Space Marine Faction FocusUm... Cringe much???
>>98001931you dont belong
>>98001910NTA. I don't know what you set out to prove, but your pic proves humans start out as female. It shows the same structure giving rise to either a penis or a vagina.Well not actually "start out female", just that the Undifferentiated state is literally what it says it is: a dickless state. Which is, you know, the main thing about adult female humans. Dicklessness.
>>98001918how come when I look at old models, like the Big Mek with Shokk Attack Gun model from 2008 (4e), he's got a nipple?how come that old ass artwork anon has been posting has nipples? what's up with that?
>>98001928Fair take. I just prefer negativity to fake positivity, I guess.
>>98001613I'll assume what you said is true.How much Precum do you mix into your acrylic paints to paint your Warhammer 40k Emperor's Children models?I just want to know how much I need to shower after I am in a continental radius of you.>>98001801That's a good point actually. Generally I try to motivate myself to paintmodels/draw but I just get negative feelings when I sit down to.>>98001528>here foreverSpeak for yourself.I plan to get shot by scaring some Canadian cops to doing so.After I paint a good number of 40k models and finish some final writings.
What's the strongest opponent Marneus Calgar and three Victrix Honor Guard could clear, lorewise? I'm confident they could defeat a daemon primarch or Vashtorr, but could they beat a (much stronger) loyalist primarch?
>>98001930>Changing superior setting, wargame and models for an already failed product made specifically to catch on all the nostalgic manchildren that just couldn't let it goWish you best of luck I guess
>>98001896since you’re leaving. post your models one last time, so I can know if I should care about you leaving.
>>98001859Nah dude its true all red triangles are evil pro terrorist propaganda made by commies who want to destroy the white race that's all true
>>98001946Dante who is the strongest chaptermaster, got one tapped by angron, Vashtorr was going the distance with an Azrael fresh off the surgery table
>>98001955gotta drop orks now. didn’t realize I was supporting woke.
>>98001950>40k is the superior settingOh buddy, no…
>>98001896Buy a printer and wash+curing station and resin with that money.And purge your extra bits.I bought those but the amount of extra bits I have left over has made me not yet assemble my printing station yet.
>>98001950Thanks, big time disagree. The scene is booming here and the game is incredible. There's actual choice compared to 40k. But let's not get into shit flinging. 40k is cool, but the game isn't fun for me, so I am switching to a game that I find fun. Don't take it personally!>>98001953In less than an hour they will not be mine, so I don't feel comfortable posting them.
>>98001938>but your pic proves humans start out as female. please pay closer attention to the internal anatomy where the state before the female differentiation has the male ducts as wellthere's no female starting point
>>98001935People are talking about palestinian nazi triangle dogwhistles, Precum Paint, and Ork Nipples.40kgeneral is a really weird place
>>98001917Ok, secondary lorelet.
>>98001970Female not in the clinical sense of the word, but in the vernacular. Anything without evident dick counts as femoid, hence Traps
>>98001791thats my style sir, hrumph
>>98001961*gulp*
>>98001971Weird I agree
>>98001964>In less than an hour they will not be mine, so I don't feel comfortable posting them.right, well in that case as long as you aren’t a regular ork poster or sallyfag I don’t care too much. good luck in the better setting, and better game system(?)
>>98001971Every word that is spoken and sung here says at least this one thing: that this current edition of warhammer 40k has not succeeded in winning our respect.
>>98001984>Anything without evident dick counts as femoidSo orks can have nipples because they don't have dicks now? Or are you a woman the moment someone evirates you?
>>98001971tis, tisn't it
>>98000938>TQBecause I like being able to ask a stupid question or say a controversial opinion and not have it linked to an account. You have to watch everything you say elsewhere lest you be kicked out.
>>98001963Perhaps when I finish my move. I am doing a big move in a few weeks, once I get situated into the new place ill see if im able to set up a print station safely. >>98001993Thanks lad, good luck to you too! Sincerely hope you enjoy 11th!
>>98001875>in the nameIt's still called intercessors.>mixed marks1 mk7 with primaris ears per 5 models isn't "mixed marks".
>>98001999Broad shoulders and baldness is evidence of high testosterone, which is often concurrent with having a dick
>>98001383They're awful, but succeeded in appealing to the worst tendencies of GW customers
>>98002013You didn't answer the questions.
>>98001945Not a lot of precum actually, usually just a small drop that can fit on one of my fingertips, it's like skincare for them and it adds a really grimy edge on top of the models, it's hardly noticeable and only 1 person knows I do it
>>98002001Why is the bolter so thin and why is his army fucked up? Are they really using AI for art now lmao
>>98002020>skincare>precum
>>98002013Baldness is about production of and sensitivity to dihydrotestosterone (DHT), not testosterone. You can have the same level of dihydrotestosterone in two people, but one goes bald quickly and the other doesn't (sensitivity), and you can have the same level of testosterone in two people, but one produces more dihydrotestosterone than the other (DHT production). You're thinking too simply about these things.
>>98001875>in the namewhat
>>98001984>Anything without evident dick counts as femoid, hence TrapsOk smart guy
>>98001383Blasphemy
>>98002001Ozempic bolter
>>98001338Skill issue
>>98001260*Fewer optionsAlso less plastic
>>98002020Gonna need pics, anon.Of the models.
>>98002028Of course he's thinking too simply about these things anon, he has no brain.
>>98001224The Khan and then Perturabo in one stupid event
>>98002053Perturabo should apologize to Abby first
>>98002013The baldness epidemic in modern times is specifically a sign of low total testosterone but skinnyfat hairlets are not ready to face this fact yet and never will be, proof is in how they never question why people don't start balding during the peak of testosterone production in adolescence.
>>98002058Perturabo shouldn't get a model.
>>98002061>The baldness epidemic in modern timesFalse premise
>>98002019>orks can have nipples because they don't have dicks now?Orks shouldn't have nipples. Additionally, in a double-whammy, the court finds they also shouldn't have belly buttons, for they spore-spawned creatures and are not placentary.>Are you a woman the moment someone evirates you?Surgically excising the penis does count for rendering a man no longer one. Eunuchs, especially the ones without the phallus, legally don't count as men, and were the only XY allowed in harems.>>98002028>Baldness is about production of and sensitivity to dihydrotestosterone (DHT), not testosteroneBald bitches also count as dudes, even if they merely shave.
So I don't mean to stir anything up but is it gone now, can we rest? Did something particular happen or did it finally get the message to leave after the last collage?
>>98002035>>98002021the blood angle do look a little chinese
>>98002031Snails are literal hermaphrodites, which count as women until exposed.
>>98002073He tried to get reddit to raid this thread because of the collage but got found out, maybe that was too embarassing even for his autistic ass
>>98001930Starting a Beastmen army after playing some test games with a buddy's Tomb Kings.Shit is pretty fun, Rank and Flank with some powerful magic thrown in.
>>98002071>for they spore-spawned creatures and are not placentary.They do grow in a placenta-like environment.
>>98002087what should happen for boc to get an army here?
>>98002084Oh kek, I have so many pics saved that were solely used to rile him up though. Bittersweet that I may never have to use them in that fashion again but they'll sit there unused
>>98002091>One, two, three, four, five, six, seve, eightEvidence accepted. Orks get eight bellybuttons, confirmed warp-engineered.
>>98000982Any of the chaos primarchs would be made more interesting by actually worshipping their god and thematically building on that. Instead they are all cringe atheists except Lorgar. Mortarion would be a step towards fixing that.
Orks should have dicks for the same reason Space Marines should have dicks: because imaging an 8-foot tall killing machine having to sit down to piss is demoralizing.
>>98002073see >>98001573
>>98002107You can piss standing up without a dick
>>98000938>TQBecause I made the colossal mistake of having fun browsing /tg/ in the late 00's, and now I'm stuck with it like HIV. I never really cared about recognition online, so joining online communities like B&C didn't engage with me, Reddit is an ok funnel for stuff by sheer weight of volume but it's vote system turns it into an echo chamber with little actual discussion. I only really discuss 40k with the LGS group and my real friends.Besides, discussion online tends to get pretty stale if it doesn't make you go WTF from time to time, and your conventional forums aren't a suitable environment for that. Maybe SA way back in the day, but those times are long gone, the internet is too normal and there's too many people on it.
>>98001573>>98002108>on reddit where they’re currently giving him all the attention he desiresStrange, I thought they were trigger happy to ban him whenever he made a new account there. Ultimately I don't care for the nitty gritty of it though, just glad he's gone from here (if just for now).Anyway been away from things the last couple weeks, do we have a release date for Cadian KT and new guard vehicles?
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>>98002098isn’t russ winning this fight though? he’s got magnus’ arm twisted and is about to stab him while russ’ comically large wolves (seriously, those guys must be 6 feet tall) are mauling him.
>>98001759here you lizard fucker
>>98002135NTA but men knowing jack shit about female anatomy is on old tired meme. Skin can be pulled and stretched to concentrate and direct the stream, chud
In the recently released Mad Dok Grotsnik novel there's a brief interaction between one of the MCs and the Dok that goes a little something like>Oy 'ow do humies create more humies so much where are all the 'umie spores>Ya dont wanna know its super gross and would turn ya mind if ya knew how humans reproduceNot the exact words but something like that. Canonically most orkz have no clue what sex is and have no real frame of reference to understand the point of genirals
>>98002100Not all of them might leave scars, plenty of animals use umbilical cords without leaving them with a scarified bellybutton.It's perfectly possible that orks have a variance in whether they retain their umbilical scars or not too, to explain inconsistent depictions.What's more, some of the things we might mistake for nipples might be umbilical scars too, the sky is the limit with these open doors!
>>98002142I'm not even sure, hhe is getting mauled at the leg and looks done for but then there's the blade sticking out of Russ' back with a spurt of blood too though. All I know is that he didn't like it, like this reaction pic too
>>98002151Orks probably view sex the same waya lot of people see how animals like fish or bees mate - "That's a weird way to do it but I guess that's just how their biology worked out. Anyway,"
>>98002157My cat has a belly button
>>98002146I'm not sure how widespread this knowledge actually is. The only women I know who are aware of this trick (or who will admit to it, I guess) are career alcoholics who learned it out of necessity.
>>98002181Well if it helps, I'm Aussie and we have (or at least had, newgens are killing it) a huge party/drinking culture. I learned the sacred texts from having close female friends through young adulthood, but also when you think about it for 2 secs it just makes sense. Typical straight men "love" women but don't know where the fucking clit is thoughbeit so they're not doing any thinking, and as a fellow dude it's tiring to see
>>98002143cute! the red and green look so nice on her. you didn’t do her any favors by painting her dog as a doberman btw
>>98002146I just wanted to make a shotgun joke, geez
Why doesn't Death Guard have rules that buff them if you shit your pants while playing them?
>>98002107Orks DO have dicks they just don't have balls. It's purely a piss hose, it doesn't get hard.
>>98002209Because this is 40k not 1st edition AoS
>>98002209Go play Age of Sigmar if you want that shit man.
>>98002209Why WE don't have special rules for ripping your opponent head?
>>98002209Showing up unwashed already debuffs your opponent, what more do you want?
>>98002200I used to take women on camping trips (in America) and all of them complained at one point or another about having to squat to piss. They even sell these special collapsible funnels with a hose or pipe at one end to use as field-expedient ladycocks.
>>98002146This feels to me on a similar level to the foreskin charge shot, it's not something most people do
>>98002204>i-it's just a joke!?See >>98002200I'm tired of this, grandpa>>98002229The funnels can be quite a trap actually. Maintaining a perfect seal on the pubis is tricky (particularly for the ones that are a hard plastic, no soft rubbery) and I've heard they splash back a lot>>98002230Kek, if you didn't play with your foreskin as a kid what were you doing?
>>980009809th had such great customization as long as you weren't just trying to be a power game faggot you could have some fun friendlies with neat armies.The Competitive nature of 2020+ killed having options 'the other guy' might not have. Fun is unoptimal and being unoptimal is NOT allowed.
>>98002209You'd need rules for the other legions.>Blood Angels: Bonus if you drink blood during the game.>Imperial Fists: Building terrain during your opponents turn will get you a firm pat on the back>Iron Hands: Opponents get to cut off your head if you lose the match.>Emperors Children: Masturbation quick time event to empower your Daemon Prince>Dark Angels: Modifier if you're in the closest or not
>>98002151To be fair, if all I knew was that people popped out of the ground like plants and shrooms I'd be pretty fucking disgusted and horrified at the idea of some people reproducing by implanting something in someone's else belly with a penetrative appendage so it can parasitize in them for months until it bursts out in pain and blood.
>>98002225you can battleshock your opponent IRL if you do pushups and shout during your match
The fact that his sword is just a mundane blunt piece of metal that he has to carry around is so fucking dumb. It's so close to being amazing. The idea that you have someone so great that they can wield a daemonic sword and use its power against the enemy without being corrupted himself is incredibly cool and makes him carrying it around feel worthwhile. This is so much the case that not even the artist can help himself making it glow with supernatural power on the cover art, implying he's using it. Having a super daemon-killing relic blade in this faction would make so much sense too since the emperor's sword is not with them, this would explain why they don't need it and can use this instead for the greatest daemonic threats.
>>98002222Just wait, we're heading there.
>>98002305I thought a demon blade was still a strong thing even when you don't draw out its power actively
I like classic blood anges but I can’t decide if the yellow aquilla looks stupid or not. Might just go with gold.
I want to slam Assault Centurions into a heavy mobility White Scars army but damn do I hate how these things look
>>98002344Either work fine, but I would try one of each and see which looks better by your hand.
>>98001896are you 5 years old or something, its like you're coming out as gay or something. Nobody cares.
>>98002305Grey Knights should dissapear, Custodes too.
>>98002331Not so. >Although Crowe wields the Blade of Antwyr, he does not draw upon its otherworldly powers lest it destroy his very soul, and instead uses it as he would any blade of sharpened steel.[1]
>>98002386bitch made cus he has no style
are they changing how flyers work in 11th.
>>98002305>The idea that you have someone so great that they can wield a daemonic sword and use its power against the enemy without being corrupted himself is incredibly coolIt’s actually extremely uncool and also gay, H2H.
>>98002391>uses it as he would any blade of sharpened steelNTA but I think you've misinterpreted this wording. He uses it like a mundane sword, not tapping into the daemon's power, but it is still not a mundane sword and has a bit of extra oomph natively.
>>98002405If you can't handle this very mild case of 90s edgelord stuff then I don't know how you stomach the rest of the setting
>>98002401We're getting all the rule changes drip fed as they are brought up in faction focuses. Expect to see something about it during the Necron or Eldar focus or something since they both have vehicle Detachments from grotsmas being reworked.
>>98002386Grey Knights are fine, just make them Space Marines with strong anti-demon/psyker weaps and resistant to them as well. They'll be mid to worse than other marines into most factions (and that's okay).
>>98001646Getting close to done with this. Got to do the subassembly accessories but they're small, then it's just highlights, wash and basing.
>>98002425>edgelord stuffI mean not that guy but GK are the complete opposite of edgelords. "Nuh uhh I just don't get corrupted!" is primary school playground shit and not interesting or fun
Ork dicks will be confirmed with Ork Dickpissers, a 5-strong unit of Nobz (not counting their Ballsquigz) first released as a limited edition Kill Team box, with essential meta rules in 40k proper, released on their own only after an 8 month gap. An accompanying Warhammer Adventures novel, ‘Wut Da Zog Iz Sex?’ will be released with them.
>>98002305Crowe being such a stubborn, uncorruptable - for now, swordsman who uses the Black Blade as a blunt weapon, but is such a skilled swordsman that it still is effective is awesome. His 5e rules are perfect to show the sort of character he is. He abhors and shuns the promises of power and uses his own skill to prevail. >>98002395Amen brother.
>>98002425Edgelord would be him being corrupted anon. Christian nu metal has never been cool.
>>98002386>I have all the best armour! And training! And gear! A-and none of your abilities affect me!Correct, Gay Knights make me feel like I'm really 10yo again playing on the oval at lunch time
>>98002432This is similar to mine. If black legion Tier 1 painter anon is here. How do we take our tanks looking from this to that crazy deep black you have on your chaos predator with silvery blue highlights?
>>98002499>>I have all the best armour! And training! And gear! A-and none of your abilities affect me!But they are not? They lack most of the Marine tanks and essentials like Plasma weapons and non specialized Anti-demon weapons. They excel at facing their designated foes, but otherwise are not all that great in crunch and to an extent in fluff against others.
What rules to use on the table for Carcharodons? SW or BA? Or something else?
>>98002515>They lack most of the Marine tanks and essentials like Plasma weaponsDoesn't really matter when they have mind blasts byyoooomm "n-nooooooo just cause I shot a psychic blast at you doesn’t mean your mind corruption affects me I'm immune!?" GK are so fucking boring.
>>98002533To each their own, I suppose. GK are not for all tastes but I have liked them since the old Index Astartes. Never understood the hate for them when Space Wolves existed and were far worse.
>>98002544SW are stupid in their theming but at least have the fun "aggressive melee" thing going on. GK specialise in fighting one thing and then just have complete immunity to all the special stuff that thing does, waow how amazing. They also have the personalities of dry unseasoned noodles
>>98002526Blood angels. Rip and tear sharky brother.
>>98002556The various Codex fluff chunks and Grey Knights Omnibus stories do a very good job of giving them personalities.
>>98002561Never said they didn't have personalities, anon. Just said their personalities were bland af, like their colour scheme. If you enjoy that all the power to ya, bud
>>98002564Misread, sorry Anon. To be fair and honest I run /mydudes/ Grey Knights and ignore the Named characters and have them doing their own thing since fifth edition. Still GK but with five editions of living fluff from games played and wins and defeats they were part of.
Is this a decent Chaos Knights list?:Chaos Knights - Iconoclast Fiefdom (2000 Points)Chaos Cerastus Knight Lancer: Cerastus shock lance, E: Diabolical Resilience (420 pts)Knight Despoiler: Titanic feet, Daemonbreath meltagun, Warlord, Ruinspear rocket pod, E: Profane Altar, 2x Gatling cannon and flamer (410 pts)Knight Despoiler: Titanic feet, Daemonbreath meltagun, Ruinspear rocket pod, E: Pave The Way, 2x Daemonbreath thermal cannon (405 pts)5x Cultist Mob: Cultist Champion, 9x Cultist w/ autopistol and brutal assault weapon (250 pts)2x War Dog Karnivore: Reaper chaintalon, Slaughterclaw, Havoc multi-launcher (300 pts)Blue Horrors: 10x Blue Horror (125 pts)The Changeling: Infernal Flames, The Trickster's Staff (90 pts)
>>98002584>implying anyone here even plays 40k
>>98002568I mean, I guess. But their hyper specialisation means their personalities can only be really limited to shit likeJohn Knight: "grrrr I hate those daemons!"Epic battles ensueAnd then John wasn't a daemon because he actually has super speshul anti-warp shielding on his brainIt's all so painfully That Kid. I think I'm also still mad at the earlier years of KT when GK were unfun to play against even with just 3 dudes on the table
>>98002506Which ones are yours?
>>98002592That makes perfect sense. I still have trauma of years of Tau destroying my melee focused infantry list. I think GK are flanderized because of being specialists, but the few that are introduced with names and personality are pretty fascinating. Much of the other material is a bit more subtle, like how they pick their individual heraldry based on experiences and ordeals. I'll be honest, I am perfectly fine with GK staying out of the spotlight in the story. It is bad enough that the amazing miniature line will be taken out back and shot when the refresh comes, but I have no doubt that if they were more in the BL novels and overarching story that they would be used to make new characters look like cool dudes/girl bosses/whatever.
>>98002526I know that's not your model but any clue what metallic he used as a base for the aquila/trim?
>>98002452>>98002439"I use the enemy's weapon against my enemy...I am half-vampie that's why I'm such a good vampire hunter" type shit I find way more edgy than a cackling sunday morning cartoon villain, or something like dark eldar since that's so over the top that it's hard to picture anyone liking it without being self-aware and having a laff about it. But I suppose that's subjective. >"Nuh uhh I just don't get corrupted!" is primary school playground shit and not interesting or funHow is being perfect paladins more interesting? You can prefer it, but every grey knight being the same is not very interesting. Half their subfactions/ranks feel completely derivative since it's like "These guys are the purest" when everyone already is incorruptible and never fall. In fact it's the whole thing that makes them less compelling than more compromised forces like the inquisition who cover the whole edgelord spectrum from purist to radical and are all susceptible to falling to chaos. I feel they lack something to make them truly interesting and fit in 40k, even if super paladins venturing into hell itself to fight evil is cool.
>>98001386I wish we knew what these things were and that they were given models
>>98002605Ah, I'm not at home right now I might be able to dig them up on the archive but I have a sisters castigator and immolator that are primarily blackI posted here a few months ago. But everyone told me just to leave the black vehicles with the black primer, but I think the way it looks it feels too matte idk how to put it. But the black legion anon here who is an INSANE painter posts these tanks that dont have that look to the paint, I havent seen him post in awhile. Not sure if anyone has any of his work saved, hes the one with the freehand "such sights to show you" succubus on a land raider.
>>98002616>I am half-vampieThis doesn't apply to GK though because they're just unaffected. It's more like "I'm using vampire weapons despite being purely human cause I'm so cool and pure like that and nobody can turn me!" Other anon was right comparing it to Christian nu metal>How is being perfect paladins more interesting?It's not? I also tend to find that lame.
>new version of the Space Marine Librarian detachment doesn’t restrict Terminators from those buffs anymoreI wonder if their datasheets will remain around the same power level, but they get access to actually decent buffs.
>>98002584i see what you're trying to do but maybe i'd trade some cultists for another dog even if it meant sacrificing some enhancements (i suppose you want to keep profane altar on warlord-despoiler)
>>98002616>"I use the enemy's weapon against my enemy...I am half-vampie that's why I'm such a good vampire hunter"isn't that just kamen rider
Homestuck x 40k when.
>>98002618Ok cool. I have some necron vehicles from years ago where I just left the black as primer and I didn't want to do that again, it just ends up looking flat IMO. Unless you thin highlight every ridge painstakingly which I don't want to do, im slow enough at painting already without that
>homosuck you have to go back
Did wahapedia die?
>>98002618Not that anon, but what did you use to prime it with? Citadel’s Chaos Black has a more satin finish to it, but most common alternatives are matte. When you varnish you’ll change the finish of the model again so I wouldn’t worry too much about that, you paint the black over the black so that if you make a mistake and need to paint over it then the black is uniform and not patchy.
>>98002650Ive never a varnished a model and its too late to ask how and start now
>>98002649Probably not, it just goes down from time to time.
>>98002654Brother just buy a spray varnish then
>>98002613IIRC, it’s warplock bronze with a brown wash and then highlighted with bronze again.
>>98002654Only posting this because I literally just finished watching it:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jnef2aRMKf4&list=PLX1fXqW4h5RQgz9ODJ-vo-HmxiygJK15U&index=5Thanks to whoever posted this guy a thread or two ago, I like his advice.
>>98002679Thanks, jays a good teacher (even though Im an acrylic painter not a contrast painter)
>>98002442I get hard of the idea of "the legendary sword looks like a mundane sword" and "the warrior who fights using only his grit and skill in a universe of magic" riddle of steel type shit, but this just doesn't do it for me with these fictional circumstances. Glad it does for someone though.>>98002409>>98002331It would be cool if that's how it worked since that would be more in line of using the enemy's power against them, just not using all of it and becoming corrupted, it's a bit dubious if that's what they're intending here. >>98002624I see what you mean by there being no risk of corruption then using the sword can feel a bit mary sue and evokes playground shit, as it's like adding another layer of whatever. I can only reiterate that if they weren't perfect then it would be cool imo. As it is I still think it would be cool since it's something different to differentiate him since while they're mary sue perfect, their "flaw" is that they are very pragmatic and sometimes do really bad shit in the name of some sort of consequentialism, despite them not having a perfect picture of what will happen, see months of shame. If they wielded the sword in hubris since "I can't be corrupted" but it ended up having other unforseen consequences, then that could be something, but until there's a precedent for that I guess it leans more towards playground I admit.
>>98002702>it's a bit dubious if that's what they're intendingI don't think it is when you look across the range of 40K source material. Like in the RPG systems, force/daemon weapons will have a special action to harness the innate abilities of said weapon, but even without "activating" like that they still tend to have a better base statline because the weapon itself is not mundane and passively has some extra cleave to it.
Why is Calgar on Armageddon? Shouldn't he be at Ultramar with the current Necron problem? Can GW stop putting smurfs in every big fancy battle and actually use other chapters. I thought the BA were there so Dante could do cool shit again.
>>98002716Revenge for BA attention hogging the Tyranids for Blood of Baal when all the lore supports Ultramarines vs. Nids beef, but someone had a nostalgia boner for the OG Space Hulk set and decided that means BA are the Nid grudge match chapter.
>>98002716>>98002731i saw video of a sloptuber that reads everything BL shits outs talking about the 11th edition lore, and even that nigga says gw's just pulling shit out their asses for nostalgia / 'member berries
>>98002702>>98002707Actually I shouldn't have lumped force weaps in there because on checking they do tend to have very basic profiles, seems they specifically need psyker influence to get that extra oomph. But here are the daemon weaps currently in IM, the latest 40krpg. Note a basic sword is one handed, 2+ and no special abilities
>>98002716Charitable interpretation: they're trying to push the Ultramarine "specialization" post-Guilliman's return as "inter-Imperium diplomacy". Perhaps they're thinking of making a Codex: Ultramarines.
Squat the BA when
>>98002741Is GW afraid that if they don't put smurfs in all their current campaigns it won't look important?I swear to god if smurfs show up in the Eye of Terror story...
>>98002716>blood angels on the other side of the galaxy for no reason>ultramarines including their chapter master on the other side of the galaxy also for no reason>native soldiers not present on the planet that’s being attackedITS A MAD HOUSEA MAD HOUSE
>>98002775The Great Rift only exist when writers remember it does.
>>98002767Squat the smurfs when
>>98002707>>98002749If the other gk's weapons were 2+ and he has a 4+ but just not using the super activate mode then it would be cooler to me, but the fact that the sword doesn't seem to give him any advantage and is never used just feels like some unused Checkhov's gun shit. It's a one way street with them it's like the answer is always no and the only question is how many gks will die or not, but they'll always sacrifice them instead of doing anything else so what does it matter. I suppose this is why they're more interesting as just a unit of the inquistion, their seal team six just looking cool and following orders, rather than as a separate faction of their own.
>>98002716There are 4 Marneus Calgars, he can be in 4 places at once
>>98002775Calgar was fighting to secure passage through the Great Rift in the Vigilus Campaign back in the Dark Imperium series, though I don’t think it was ever resolved officially. I guess he won off screen lmao.
Will we get the Lion's only story progress in fucking DoW4 of all things?
>>98002798You’re actually missing one
>>98002793>but the fact that the sword doesn't seem to give him any advantageWell GK's all use power weapons anyway right? So the daemon blade's passive strength would be comparable and not give the dude any edge over a power weapon if he's not unleashing the daemon, but it's still not just a hunk of metal. Everything else you said there is true thoughbeit
>>98002810oh yea, the new one
>>98002767Never
>>98002798>Get a pair of johnnys in here I need them to watch me take a shit
>>98002774GW has been putting out some real stinkers when it comes to their nu lore these past few years, so they're trying to cover the basics.niggas trying to pull a Force Awakens on everyone: sell nostalgia slop as they try to think of something people will latch on to. i'm just hoping their follow through isn't a Last Jedi episode
How old is Calgar in the lore now? 500 years old? A full millennia?
>>98002793>>98002811Like here we see that a tainted blade is innately stronger than a regular sword as I stated, and comparable to a power sword (same damage, swap Rend with Penetrating). The two handed daemon weapon is a little weird that it's stronger than a great weapon but a decent bit weaker than a two handed power axe (1 less damage but no traits on the daemon blade)
>>98002798>Calgar has more models then most chapters have characters Life is so unfair...
>>98002807Given that the end of 500 Worlds was Lion telling Guilliman that they needed to talk, I'm assuming 11th edition will lead off the results from that discussion. It's a little too important to stick in a video game.
>>98002631Dropping the two other enhancements and two units of cultists gets me another war dog. I don’t think those enhancements were that amazing honestly, especially for a full 50 points.
>>98002844If your average gk's nemesis force weapons are comparable to it, then it does feel less stupid to me than if it was just a basic sword in use and soothes my autism some what, and it can be justified as a cool aesthetic and lore nugget to set him apart, even if I personally find it to be wasted potential still for all the reasons I've written itt. You are kind to post the screenshots anon, thank you.
>>98002886Oh you're right, Knights use the nemesis force weaps and not power weaps hey. Still yeah, I'd say his profile is similar because the other GK are using special force weaponry with their psychic abilities. He's swinging a cursed blade that hungers for blood, even if he is not actively bringing forth the daemon inside. 100% wasted potential though because as you've been detailing we know GW won't do anything cool with it, and he can never be corrupted
I turned this black man into a white man.Seriously though, working on skin. How does it look? How's the 5 o clock shadow?
>going through my purchases>realize my buying/selling dramatically increased around 6~ weeks agoI need to go back to January when I barely got a single warhammer thing.
>>98002934Looks nice
>>98001020>>98001099>the call of the voiddoes that mean you want to kysAnyway grab a kill team like guy said, don't spend 1k all at once.
>>98002934Makes me think of Nick Nitro a bit
>>98002934what ethnicity is this?
>>98002934I look like this
>>98002950>ethnicity>in the 41st millenniumGive it a rest, /pol/tard
>>98002386>Grey Knights should dissapear, Custodes too.Can a setting with these two really be called grimdark? Who even creates custodes anymore? They should have dwindled in numbers as the emperor's skill was needed to create them, so they've just slowly died off and there are just a 100 left or something and are like relics of a bygone era, not this 8000+ and replenishing shit. The idea that the grey knights would follow Guilliman's 1000 only codex limit also just seems dumb. Why would they do that?
>>98002950Irish
On the orbital assault force detachment, a unit and an attached leader count as 1 or 2 for the detachment's deep strike limit?
i'm new, is drip feeding next editions rules 6 months out normal? we were getting details before maelstrom was released, weren't we?
>>98002950creatura de las americas
>>98002798Technically anyone in 40k can be in 4 places at once because warp travel = time travel
>>98002870you prob right, people have been hyping about what that meeting will be, but I'm not sure what could be so juicy. I think to set them apart the Lion should have gone and done something super controversial and ballsy like ridding systems of the imperial creed by force or something and now they meet to discuss the fallout of the Lion's decisions, even if they ultimately want the same thing, get back into the mode of Guilliman chasing down captain Genocide telling him to stop and having the "You're out of line, detective!" routine going.
>>98002973With the constant leaks, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was to take the steam out of their sails as people can just wait for James to tell them themselves. Remember the multipart Ork Warboss kit already got leaked.
the one thing about Blood Angels though is that their Upgrade Sprue is actually pretty good. Dark Angels are better though.I would rank it as>upgrade spruesDark AngelsBlood AngelsUltramarinesBlack Templarsand then Space Wolves are kinda not very good, or rather they're on the same level as the 'generic' upgrade sprues for the first founding chapters no one cares about.In terms of updated units it's probably likeSpace WolvesUltramarinesDark AngelsBlack TemplarsBlood Angelsand then the chapters that only got like one named character and nothing else.It's interesting how they included a company of the Great Wolf shoulder pad in the kill team, but you struggle to find that kind of space wolf attention elsewhere. Considering big wolf daddy got his new model you'd think at least they'd include an upgrade sprue so you can make a great wolf company.
>>98002988it's also annoying you can basically do half of these using the base shoulder pads for space wolves, but then the other half are wrong.
>>98002973I want to go back to january.
>>98002988Actually the Blood Angel and Black Templar sprue sucks cause they have only two helmets each.
>>98002982Probably making the East/West Imperium split De Jure, and setting up major diplomatic/religious tensions between the two sides that will lead to future conflict.
>>98002988Half the stuff on my BT one is really nice themed bits and the other half is useless neophyte/scout arms that aren't even an actual wargear option anymore
If you're a unit of Guardsmen fighting some xenos, what other Imperial faction do you LEAST want to be joined by, ignoring how the Grey Knights just murder you after the battle? I'm thinking the Sisters of Battle would be the most annoying.
>>98002870>>98002982>>98003027What's Lion been doing so far?And what are you lads thinking the talk between Guilliman and Lion should be about versus what GW is probably gonna do?
It's one thing to lie about using AI, but how did this not get caught in QC?! Look at that bolter, look at that arm, look at the eyes. Did they even try to touch up the AI slop or was this what it popped out?
>>98003057Primarchs are a mistake and should be removed from the story and kept in 30k.
>>98003068The chaos primarchs were in Epic and Epic back then to my knowledge was 40k.But it doesn't matter now as the cat is out of the bag.
>>98003063that image has been around longer than AI has existedyou should be upset about them recycling artwork for the core rulebook
>>98003063It's not AI, it's just that fucking dogshit "thin bolter" artist
>>98003076Why did they choose such a terrible piece for the cover of their rules. Embarrassing.
>>98003063>le AI!Stop assuming everything is AI, it's not, just weird art. Skinny bolters and other strangeness has popped up plenty of times in 40k art before AI
>>98003063Are modern GW models bad specifically because the artists modern GW hires are also bad or are bad models and bad art just both symptoms of something else?
What is the significance and strategic importance of the Forge World of Armageddon in the 40k universe?I know that in real life Armageddon is a recognizable location to 40k fans and with nostalgia actually a world people care about and also care about due to the significance of the Steel Legion 40k army.
>>98003095modern GW models aren't bad
>>98003046Another guard regiment that has very poor chemistry with yours yet you both have to tardwrangle for shared decisions on the battlefield, happened in plenty of novelsPenal regiments for obvious reasonsSisters as you pointed outKnight houses who put the blame on your entire unit for getting their toys bruised when it was mostly the princeps acting like a jackass and now you're all on the bad side of the munitorum
>>98003098It's a really big factory which is important for practical reasons. It's a propaganda centrepiece as the site of multiple great initial victories. It's also the ork "homeworld" ullanor, teleported away and settled after the heresy, but that's a secret.
Realized I can get back the cost of my Deathwatch kill team by just selling the unique shoulder pads. Thank you fans of Glup Shitto chapters, could not have done it without you.
>>98003123praise glup shittos.To be honest, I can NOT be asred to go through all the effort of mailing like 5 packages of 1 shoulder pad for 30 bucks.
>>98003095Modern GW uses CAD, no more handsculpted minis ofc as these take more time and skill (and still generally have that hand-made look which has been surpassed in favour of more "realism" as of late). I wouldn't say it's bad, just different and you can argue often less sovlful.
>>98003123you already made this post
>>98003095You can say they're bad designs but they aren't bad models.
>>98003135drag my balls through broken glass to get free shit is my thinking.
>>98003095It's bad designs not bad models. Hand sculpting going away did ensure the average is far worse, but CAD sculpts have higher highs. But yeah, the main problem is the designers are not even 1/4 as talented as the older guys were. Shit designs and mediocre sculpts are a result of that.In general the models aren't bad outside new concepts being shit more often than not. But the writing both lore and rules wise has never been worse. Silver lining that's easily fixable, if GW were to actually hire competent writers instead of people who work for less than industry standard.
>>98003141I really miss the handsculpted aesthetic.
>>98003141one of the great things about single piece metal models was that they were always easy to paint because anywhere the sculptor could get his tools, you could get a paintbrush
>>98003155you could just work an extra 4 hour shift at a local business once a month and get a whole kit.
>>98003183I've been painting a bunch of MESBG one piece metals recently. I forgot how fun it was to handle metal.
>>98003168Same here anon. CAD sculpts certainly can do some crazy cool shit handsculpting could only dream of, but there was such kino in the Perry bros days. With people trying to resurrect all old skills and stuff I'm somewhat surprised nobody has started a handsculpted tt minis project/business, I've seen people on tiktok doing it for their own figures/dioramas but nothing to be molded and used for wargames>>98003183Yeah sure, but then the downside of that was that you'd constantly get arms melting into weapon hafts with no clear distinction between the two and shit
>>98003195Check out Kim's Talisman if you like handsculpted stuff. The Giant Squigs in the back and the Squig Spiders were all hand sculpts.
>>98003195>>98003201
>>98003195>Yeah sure, but then the downside of that was that you'd constantly get arms melting into weapon hafts with no clear distinction between the two and shitThat only happened on the cheaper MESBG single cast plastic pieces. Never seen that on metal.
>>98003208No? It was rampant among fantasy chaos warriors
>>98002200>Well if it helps, I'm Aussie and we have (or at least had, newgens are killing it) a huge party/drinking cultureHuh same here in Poland. I think it's mosty due to cameras abd everyone having a phone to record you doing something stupid while drunk(which is easy to do). Also alcoholism was quite a problem here. These days the youth is murdering their insides with energy drinks and their lungs with cigarretes
How do you do nurgle marines without "tee hee funny dookie shidded n vomited"?
>>98003213What? These aren't even single piece?
>>98003224We have to go back further, anon
>>98000938>TQIt's easy to counteract the negativity that festers here by simply not responding to anons trying to rile people up or by killing them with kindness. A troll isn't going to waste his time on someone who isn't taking the bait.Other forums demand that you adhere to insincere positivity etiquette and power tripping mods. Being honest here while not acting like an asshole has a far greater survival chance than elsewhere.
>>98003046>several Space Marine chapters whose gimmick is "teamkilling assholes">man, Sisters of Battle are really annoying huh?Wai are you gae?
>>98003226Oh fair the earlier chaos warriors are before my time.
>>98003195>Yeah sure, but then the downside of that was that you'd constantly get arms melting into weapon hafts with no clear distinction between the two and shitModern models are much worse for this shit. You get shoulderpads melting into chests/arms and shit.
>>98003095I would argue 8th was the worst CADslop and we're actually on the upswing.
I know why the won’t, but I think it would be neat if you could promote a unit to be an army lists “warlord” instead of requiring a character necessarily. Thinking about it, for a Space Marine Captain to take to battle themselves, things would have to be pretty dire wouldn’t they? Or of elevated importance at the very least. Not every battle can be for the fate of the universe.
>>98003234Yeah the CAD sculpts have definitely improved. The main problem now is terrible new designs. But that can be solved by just paying to hire some actually talented people. Fuck sake contract Blanche or any number of the old artists to sketch new concepts. They are all mostly still alive. Cheap GW suit faggots.
>>98003223You’d have to do new converts. The Death Guard have been immersed in Nurgle’s Garden for 10k years, they’re taking on some characteristics of the demons that reside there.
>>98003098It's also significant to the Orks for some reason. Either the higher ups know that, or they have no idea why but Armageddon becomes a good choke point and/or meatgrinder against the Orks.It's like Vietnam or Afghanistan (or Phaedra) where, sure people live there, but to strategists it's essentially just a place to fight over.
>>98003098It’s in the Solar Segmentum if I recall right, which in galactic terms is within spitting distance from Terra. Armageddon is a perceived weak link in this area of space, if it falls, defending Terra becomes harder.
>>98003234I don't think that's true. We're still getting awful posing, still getting stupid puzzle kits, more tactical rocks than ever.
>>98003264Still lots of terrible poses and the smoke plumes are a new horrible innovation, but I agree with that guy that 8th was worse.
>>98003231Post examples? I've seen a bit of meltiness on CSM but it was nothing I couldn't fix with a knife, the shit I've encountered on old metal minis has been far worse
>>98003261More than that, its probably the single most important world between Terra and the Great Rift. If it falls there really isn't another fortress to fall back to besides Terra. Armageddon falling would also theoretically cut Terra off from Catachan and Ryza.
>>98003098Very close to Terra, and produces more Chimeras for the Guard than just about any other planet.Ignore the faggy nu-lore about it being the Ork homeworld, BL trash like that isn't canon.
>>98003057Lion has his own little Farsight Enclave out in the East. Technically still part of the Imperium, but independent in all but name. He may want Guilliman's blessing to take full command in the East, since that authority currently rests with Dante. Or perhaps not, since the Lion has said over and over that he does not want to rule. But what else could he want from Guilliman? He can't get any reinforcements or support, and you don't need to set up a summit to ask for information or moral support.
>>98003347Its been my theory since Son of the Forest that the Emperor is going to give the Lion visions that convince the Lion that he must kill the Emperor. Part of my overarching theory that GW wants to setup a proper Imperial Schism between North/South pulling together all sorts of plotlines as a big narrative event.>Valdor/King in Yellow>Star Child>the Lionetcetc
I got sunburn on my bald head and it peeled and turned purple in streaks and blotches and now I literally look like a GSC. Nid invasion soon?
>>98003347>>98003362God who gives a FUCK about Primarchshit, they should get sucked into a warp portal and just vanish again
>>98003362This is right but will never hit the public canon.
>>98003372I think they're kinda cool
>>98003373its honestly the only thing that makes sense with what we know re: the last Bequin book, in that its been finished since before The End and the Death and GW has been just sitting on it. they want that big plot line for something and have to set up all the other pieces, and the only reason Valdor would need the Emperor's true name is to compel him to do something, either get off the throne, die, or both.
>>98003376They're cool to have as ancient legends but having them actively walking around doing stuff just pulls way too much focus onto a few characters and away from the vastness of the setting and makes the galaxy feel small and boring
>>98003372Amen. Back to /mydudes/ fighting /yourdudes/.
>>98003382This. It's what 40k was always supposed to be.The idea that they might actually try to kill the Emperor/have him come back is so fucking blisteringly retarded. It would be the death of 40k, the ultimate lore rape to rape all lore rape.
>>98003255>It's also significant to the Orks for some reasonIt used to be the de facto capital of the ork empire until they got kicked out by Horus during the great crusade. That's why they keep coming back.
>>98003390Again this is retarded faggot nu-lore and has no reason to exist.
>>98003385oh, I never said that. I said GW wants to start an Imperial Schism with one sides goal being to kill the Emperor as a means to restore him - Valdor knows he's a perpetual. the status quo wouldn't really change, the Imperium as it exists now would remain but the fluff would give more room for Imperial armies to fight each other. if GW were to do what I'm talking about, they would give /yourdudes/ even more reason to fight /otherdudes/.
>>98003385>This. It's what 40k was always supposed to be.It was and should still be that, but sadly we have people who have grown to live lives around Warhammer and obsess over and insert their fetishes, lack of parental figures and obsession with Marvel-tier super heroic GOOD GUYS where their wallets are to keep GW well paid and willing to kill the old fluff. Warhammer use to be a sci-fi game about creativity, narration and fun. Now it is a haven for people who live nothing but Warhammer obsessed lives, sweaty tourney players and people without any sort of personality or soul who latch onto brands to try and make up for it.
>>98003392>but the fluff would give more room for Imperial armies to fight each other.The fluff has always had thousands of reasons for imperial armies to fight each other, it's just that nobody ever fucking reads it.
>>98003397People lack creativity and need Daddy GW to tell them how to play.
>>98003397I know that, you know that. Yknow who doesn't? Dumbfuck little Timmy that is who, and maybe he doesn't want to get mum to swipe for him unless he has a reason to make his space marines fight his older brother's space marines.
>>98003382>>98003385don't want to burst your bubbles, but gw is going to continue to bring back primarchs, regardless of your feelings.
>>98003390>giving an epic backstory connected to primarchshit to why the orks want to fight in a place that put up a great fight the last time they went thereabsolutely Dark Angel level homosexual
I just put together another terminator.>it was horribleNo idea why it bothers me so much. Maybe because I have to cut off all the "exactly same looking purity seals" and such... I hate shaping knees after cutting plastic off them.
>>98003391There's nothing wrong with that part. The retarded part is that orks started using guns because the space marines kicked their ass so hard or whatever. :)
>>98003400>People lack creativity>>98003402>I know that, you know that. Yknow who doesn't? Dumbfuck little TimmyIt's so grim...Dark, even...
>>98003408>shaping knees after cutting plastic off themThis the new kit?
>>98003413No. From the tyranid+marine box set. Half of them have seals where its annoying to cut them off, all on rounded surfaces. One model has three.
>>98003223well ther is The Purge which is more >I hate everything people annoy me Quintilions must die and I don't care abaut things getting better I just want everything dead
anyway, despite what I think will happen, Valdor and the Custodes are cucks and the Lion is gay and the Emperor WILL be staying on the throne. thanks for coming to my tedtalk.
>>98003409>There's nothing wrong with that partYes there is. Ghaz already had every fucking reason to want to go back to Armageddon. It was the first place that stopped his unstoppable waaagh! It was where he had the greatest fight if his life. It was where he met his arch-nemesis. Literally nothing more was needed to make it obvious he was going to invade again until he won. At no fucking point ever was it necessary to add some contrived fucking gay ass twist to Armageddon other than some egotistical douchefaggot black library cunt wanted to "leave his mark on the setting".
>>98003187or I could do this which is easier
This discussion got me thinking. What is the WORST retcon GW ever did to 40k lore?Besides female custodes obviously, can't even count that one or it wins by a landslide.
>>98003415I have those. You mean the purity seals on their calves? They're fine. You sure you're not going to make it look worse with your "knee reshaping"?
>>98003430retconning custodes from this
>>98003430nu-crons
>>98003430Changing every name from a normal sounding one into a retarded sounding one then trying to gaslight fans by saying it had always been that way instead of just admitting that it's a legal thing
>>98003430Primaris. How is this even a question?
>>98003397My theory is that they intentionally want to divide the Imperium playerbase into two groups, since its so massive relative to the other factions.The Imperium Nihilus might even be its own Ynnari-style combined-army faction. The pressures of being cut off and abandoned forcing all the various Imperial factions into unprecedented levels of cooperation. I think GW has talked in the past about how they want to lower the bar for starting a new army, and being able to work new models into an existing army list is a good way to do it.
>>98003430Making all marines a thing. They should be forced to take some allies
>>98003430femstodes are not even in the top 5
>>98003431This is the kit. They annoy the fuck out of me. I have 40 more to do roughly.>the captain takes the longest, I have a solid block of plastic to reshape from his groin tabard into inner leg and piping on inner theighs
>>98003430Squats...
>>98003448also the image I shared the artist did the knee already on the dude in the middle, HE FUCKING DID WHAT I DO and I didn't notice when I modded that image, that's the triple dude
>>98003440>Ynnari-style combined-army factionOh come on, GW shits themselves at the idea of allies. This is top of the list of things that'll never ever happen
>>98003448Those are some of the most inoffensive details, I don't get what you're so incensed over. Hot damn I'm glad I'm not this autistic
>>98003453ever stare at a bunch of dudes and imagine the repetitiveness of having 40+ guys, many with the exact same flowy cloaks and tabards and tell yourself "this is good"....?
>>98003448Why? Both why would you do that and why are you doing it 40+ times.
>>98003457I keep posting this image. I'm this dude.
>>98003458That doesn't answer either question.
>>98003448Shame. I love purity seals, cruxes are neat.I can understand one or two headlights clipped if you want some variety. But they are headlights, kinda cool. Think of live voxing crushing space wolves.
>>98003458You kinda knew what you were getting into when you bought the kits, brother.
>>98003455I mean, at 40+ dudes when squad boxes typically have 3-10, I'd expect some repetition. But I also don't understand how shaving off the "flowy" stuff helps with the repetition when you'll still have the exact same poses, helmets etc. Anyway, care to show us one of the finished modified termies?
>>98003455>>98003458so this is a (you) problem by going full retard, got it.
>>98003464Yes, and I am casually doing it.>>98003459I'm getting rid of the flowy stuff off armor because it's armor. The holes in shoulders weren't on the ancient 2nd ed terminators I owned(chaos). Other bits are being modified.
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>>98003430The Tau flipflopping on whether they have FTL tech or not. And whatever the fuck is going on with the Ynnari.
>>98003473>doing all this work because repetition bad>but also thisWhy do you even need 40+ terms?
>>98003484I placed those in front to remind me to change it.
>>98003486You keep skirting the question, anon. Why so many terminators??
>>9800348855 terminator+warlord terminator dark angels rules in 2kthe rest is for a 3k list if I ever play it
>>98003488i have over 60 termies. it's less a question of why so many, and more why so many of the mono pose "nu slop" if you're going to knife them anyway? dumb nigga was asking questions about the tyranid side too before buying all of these. shame, he could have invested in a variety of termies he'll actually use
>>98003496>55 terms from a 5 man kit>the restJfc anon... Well they don't really feel very DA to me with all the flowy bits cut off, but as long as you like them ig
>>98003439Primaris isnt a retcon
>>98003501It's a salamanders successor chapter that's more fleet based and fully committed to the questing part of their lore. They get all the terminator suits left behind from failed space hulk invasions. Orders from admech are "more terminator suits".I've wanted an all terminator army since 2003 or so. The tyranid+sm set made it easy to just blow my load and get everything I can modify for a quick build.
>>98003447Even if you think it's not the worst it DEFINITELY cracks the top 5. You didnt even post one.
>Hellblaster detachmentThanks GW, very cool.
>>98001057Only the first half of that is true. However this changes Shadow In The Warp from one of the worst army rules in the game into one of the best, which kinda points to 11th doing the same "Last edition's starter box xenos overpowered in current edition" thing that happened at the start of 10th. You can basically stop a good chunk of your opponent's army from scoring objectives or using stratagems for a big chunk of the game.
>>98003500Fair, I suppose if you do go termie heavy that's to be expected.>why so many of the mono pose "nu slop" if you're going to knife them anyway?Yeah, that is a good question. I imagine picking up the boxes of older termies second hand NOS would've been cheaper and from memory I'm sure they had less doodads on them>>98003511Right, DA in rules but not actual DA. I was scratching my head as to why you hadn't got even a single box of Deathwing. Hopefully none of those suits are boobytrapped!
>>98003448Lore-wise, the shoulder cameras are supposed to be on every unit. All the cameras in a squad are linked so that every squad member can see what his teammates are seeing, at all times. This helps counter the reduced situational awareness of Terminator armor
>>98003500I know new age GW is monopose, and I accept that. I left the bases unglued because I may still chop off the legs to re-pose them.I may still add something to the end result to personalize them more.I'm used to modifying everything.
>>98003526I saved those, I needed them out of the way to fill the shoulder pits.>>98003511
Recommended colours for True Metallic Metal? I play Necrons
>>98003529watch a tutorial on youtubemake sure the bases terrain matches the theme of metals reflection
>>98003524for me, my termie tism was the exact opposite; i got all the old kits, cata and tartaros too. there were cataphractii NOS dirt cheap after HH2.0 came out, and even the box of 10 tartaros was as low as ~65% msrp.
>>98003528You could maybe mix that up too desu. Some on the shoulders, some attached to guns, rear-facing cameras, helmet-mounted…maybe one with purity seals covering the lenses, because Brother Alcibiades believes in privacy.
Really kicking myself for getting a Lictor instead of a Neurolictor now. Battleshock's more powerful, Fights First doesn't matter, and Stealth doesn't stack with cover.Oh well, Tyranids are gonna get a codex in October or November so Lictor's probably gonna change some.
>>98003541That's exactly what I would do too, grab every possible termie kit that fit whatever faction (who am I kidding, likely Deathwing) for most variety possible, I also love shit like the tartaros. Doing so many of the same kit sounds like a nightmare to me
>>98003458Yeah, you've been attentionwhoring with this image for almost a year now. Maybe you shouldn't have bought 12 fucking boxes if you didn't want to assemble the same kit 12 times. I'm pretty sure you'll never finish that spider project either.
>>98003544Lore on my dudes are they're fleet based around a mining planet they're currently guarding. I may end up doing something on all their backs.
>>98003553>spidersEventually is eventual. I'm into doing a few terminators at the moment.
>>98003550>Doing so many of the same kit that's specifically meant to be built one way. and yeah, easiest lists are DA once you've got a critical mass. i think SWs, old and new, are the only 40k kits i don't have. also fuck nuCata, homie don't play that
I did 30 of these, plus another few characters. Couldn't imagine doing it without access to the range of bits/customization the GK kits gave me.
I'm coming around to Drukhari, I think I was turned off because of the weird retarded faces GW paints them with, but with their helmets they look rad
>>98003571Brother! I have 15 Paladins. And 20 Scarab Occults.
>BA Detachment: kill a couple Death Company for "Advance and Charge">Enhancement: one unit has free Heroic Intervention>Strategem: surge move after getting shotam i missing something? this sounds like shit
>>98003526You just gave me flashbacks to my brother playing Space Hulk on the Amiga.
>>98001170A minecraft update.
>>98003226These?
>>98003605
>>98003605Spot on, that dude in particular has a bad merging of weapon and arm at the back and they copied him 5 times for a start painting set (who even wants 5x the same dude?)
>>98003608If you wore a hundred pounds of wrought iron on your head, you'd have neck problems too.
What faction is:>Has the gayest characters in-universe>Has the gayest players out of universe>Has the most female players>Has the most teenage players>Has the most Nazi players>Is hardest to play>Is easiest to play>Is most annoying to play against>Is cheapest to play>Is most expensive to play>Has the coolest tank>Has the coolest "newbie squad" models>Has the coolest chapter master equivalent
>>98003594It will be a sleeper hit
>>98003616Space Marines goes in all fields
>>98003608>the virgin hero vs the chad "come at me bro"
>>98003529Vallejo Mecha Color Dark Steel.
>>98003611So... the problem is rampant on very old, cheap plastic models? Meanwhile anon specifically said metal models. You see an issue here?
>>98003616>Has the gayest characters in-universeEmperor's Children>Has the gayest players out of universeSpace Marines>Has the most female playersNids and Orkz>Has the most teenage playersSpace Marines>Has the most Nazi playersBlacked templars>Is hardest to playMechanicus>Is easiest to playOrkz>Is most annoying to play againstWildly varies but last time I checked Knights>Is cheapest to playSpace Marines>Is most expensive to playMechanicus>Has the coolest tankTau>Has the coolest "newbie squad" modelsImperial agents>Has the coolest chapter master equivalentEto?
>>98003626I've seen it on metals too, hold your dick before you piss everywhere sweety
>>98003594All 3 Blood Angel ones seem mid af at a glance.They seem to be going away from rules giving significant damage buffs in general. Might be a good idea considering that overall rules seem to favor melee at the baseline.I wonder what exactly will be the status of the current detachments. If the default detachments, like LAG in case of BA, would be 2 points and you could take an extra utility detachment to buff specific units it would be pretty neat.
>>98003632>inb4 some obscure old metal model is evidence of a rampant problem across the entire industry
>>98001380I don't know why this artist keeps drawing guns so thin. He would fine otherwise, but this shit completely ruins everything he does. It has to be artistic choice on his part.
>>98003616Emperor's ChildrenSpace MarinesOrks, Necrons, TyranidsNecronsBlack TemplarsSisters of Battle, Craftworld EldarSpace Marines, NecronsCraftworld EldarAdeptus Custodes, Imperial Knights paradoxically.Adeptus Mechanicus, Genestealer CultsOrksBlack Templars, Space WolvesTau
>>98003639NTA but it was a rampant problem across the entire industry. You'd see dwarves holding hammers next to their waist with the hammerhead essentially part of the belt.
>>98003653I'm so glad multi-part CAD models don't have any issues with clipping into each other...
>>98003639Why are you pretending so hard? There were huge gap issues, there was a gotdang official article on the website showing people how to fix up and gapfill tf out of the hellcannon it was so bad. Pinning, putty work, craft and conversion skills were necessary as base level to do metal minis. Now all you need is a knife, glue, half a brain and a dream
>>98003631>orks>easy to play
>>98003681orks are very easy to play, you're just supposed to losegetting this wrong is why some people mistake them for not being easy to play
>>98003674>talking about single-piece metal models>"but multi-part metal models, though"wut
>>98003519>necron retcons>terminus decree reveal>everything around the creation of primaris>everything around squats becoming votann>ynnari being erased from existanceAnd that's off the top on my head.All of these are much worse than some foids in your army. Custodes becoming playable was a worse retcon than your fear of strong wahmen.
>>98003473>>98003484>>98003511What is this autism?
>>98003720>baitI'd say find a hobby but you're on a hobby board. Is this hobby-inception? Making the hobbyists your hobby?
>>98003728You're either cripplingly autistic, or just crazy.
>>98003720what's autistic about a bunch of teminators?
>>98003720>>98003732>it's crazy to get a discount on a unit by buying a box and selling the stuff you don't want???
>>98003736Every unit comes out to 12 bucks after tax with what I got. I could sell the leader when he becomes unobtanium in a year for 40 bucks a model.
>>98003736you bought 12 fucking boxes that have been laying around for almost a year at this point, you pretty much abandoned the spiders project and now youre attentionwhoring with these terminators, just fuck off you daydreaming failure
>>98003745Thats not me bruh.
>>98003749>that image is from july 2025not really helping your case here buddy
>>98003756>>98003756>>98003756
>>98003745I'm not actually the guy you were responding to I'm someone who bought a bunch of copies of the trashtorr boxset because with a bit of recasting it let me get ten deathwing terminators per box for like ten bucks each after the other stuff was sold
>>98003755Do you need help finding deals for the models you want or something? I'm getting curious why you're focusing me.
>>98001473>For fuck sakes, the most POPULAR games from china currently are stuff like Genshin Impact, Zenless Zone, games which are profiting from Japan and have a known track record of increased profits when censorship is added and decreased sales from sexualization in ChinaFixed
>>98001930I miss 7th? Or 8th? Ed whf that had the different spell lores each with insanely powerful spells like the dwellers below.
>>98002638>A recurring theme of the franchise is how any Kamen Rider's powers are derived from a power source and/or technology being used for less noble intentions and the internal turmoil that comes with protecting humanity through violence, as evident by the "tear lines" in the Rider's helmets to represent the agonizing sacrifices made for committing to such a noble cause. Another recurring theme in the franchise is that it portrays how some kaijins, cyborgs and other monstrous beings can also show some degree of humanity to their interaction with mankind, as well as equally portraying how humanity can be ironically seen as radically evil compared to the kaijins and other beings through the various human antagonists of varying maliciousness and cruelty, often displaying their misanthropy towards humanity by becoming monsters themselves. Additionally, unlike its Super Sentai counterpart, most if not all Kamen Riders are morally grey in terms of their respective reasons to fight, usually clashing with other Riders over their ideals and their justifications to accept such power. >this level of sincere kino 40k could never
>>98002499>Gay Knights make me feel like I'm really 10yo again playing on the oval at lunch time18 year old me found Hyperion in the emperor's gift and the other GK really cool for how detached they were from emotion and how they just went from battle to battle without break and being super professional and in other forms of media I liked the nameless soldier goon who had the balaclava ninja mask covering or gas mask. Now I want everyone to be distinct and have personality. What always astounds me is that the writers are like 40+ year olds who still keep that edgy teenage spirit and write things where "he doesnt afraid of anything and is perfect". Maybe that's a quality GW and other companies actively look for in writers because that's the audience they're trying to appeal to.
>>98002558>Unique stratagem - Baby Shark Tactics (1CP)>Unique stratagem - Adaptive Momma Shark (2CP)
>>98003432>tts gay leather speedos custodes are lore accruatefug
>>98002617I wish 40k was more restrained and creepy like this instead of every enemy faction having spikes and mutated disgusting shit all over the place. I understand that that's not Khorne or Slaanesh's thing, but maybe they could massage a faction of Tzeentch or some xenos into being the corner of the setting that's more like this.
>>98003557>>98003553wait, embarassing pile of shame anon is also spider horde anon? Nooo, you shmooshed one I liked with one I pitied into the same person noooooooo
The new battleshock change makes me happy.
I want to collect a hyper elite army so that I can justify spending a lot of time painting each mini, but still be able to get games in. Which should I pick?>Custodes (due for range refresh)>Grey knights (same as above)>Space Marines with lots of dreads/vehicles (not very elite)>Knights (inherently a skew army)Any other options Im missing?
