Tell me why you love Old School Revival/Renaissance/Resurrection/Rewind/Return/Remix/Retribution/Redeployment/Riff/RelaxDontDoIt games. That's including all D&Ds before 3e and any games based off of them.And if you actually hate them, lets talk things out. There's more to the OSR than just licking Gygax's corpse to try and get some salt out of it. Maybe it's just there's not an OSR game for you, but even so I think there's some good wisdom that can be found in the OSR, an exploration of where games came from that can help where they're going.>TQ>What's the worst puzzle/trap you've ever seen, and why is it almost certainly from the Tomb of Horrors?
Reminder to ignore any troll posts that might be made in this thread.
>>98023727Welcome to the latest definitely not-a-general hijack thread posted by the board's greatest schizo, Fishfag.Reminder that the actual /osrg/ can currently be found here:>>98004530>>98004530>>98004530This is just a containment thread for the insane filled with samefagging, and for celebrating the eternal triumph of the BROSR.
Worst trap I ever saw in an adventure was a DM thought he was Grimtooth and made this dumb goldfish bowl filled with acid that he spent ten minutes describing, and it just made the whole party die.It happened like twenty minutes into the adventure, and instead of rolling up new characters we just started playing Smash Bros and never had that guy DM ever again.
The old thread still hasn't reached bump limit, is on page one, and fishfag has already made a new one.
>>98023795His clever "strategy" is to cycle through two different thread templates, so that he can technically claim he's not making the same thread over and over. I mean, it's worth reporting for spamming / flooding, but in the end he's just going to get the same results as long as he insists on his hijacks, so whatever.
>>98023727>TQGreat TQ.The worst trap I've ever seen was a very deep pit trap.
>>98023727>TQGreat TQ.The worst trap I've ever seen was a poisoned dart.
>>98023727>TQGreat TQ.The worst trap I've ever seen was a spear trap.
>>98023727 (OP)>TQGreat TQ.The worst trap I've ever seen was a rolling ball like in indiana jones
>>98023727The first room in the dungeon of Death Frost Doom has a pipe organ, that if anyone tries to play it, shoots toxic mold into the air and everyone nearby has to save or die instantly.The whole party can die in the first room to a dumb trap. And this is supposed to be a famous horror-centric adventure.
>>98023727>TQGreat TQ.The worst trap I've ever seen was walls closing in like in star wars
>>98023727Yet another spammed out attempt to somehow derail /osrg/ by tricking outsiders into buying to a fake definition of OSR. (don't ask me how his brain works). Jannies, kindly prune this garbage.
>>98023825>Dungeon [dungeon] has trap [trap]. It was very bad.New comment template just dropped! Leads to very organic discussions! Name a dungeon and a trap in it, this is what actual conversations look like.
>>98023727>TQGreat TQ.The worst trap I've ever seen was a fish with a faggot inside of it.
>>98023825>>98023840Dungeon [Stonehell] has a [pit trap] on the first floor.
>>98023825>>98023840Dungeon [B4 the lost city] has trap [rolling boulder]. It was very bad.
>>98023825>>98023840Dungeon [tomb of horrors] has trap [wall closing passage off]. It was very bad.
>>98023727Well no worst, but the one that will live forever in my head. I was only a year or to into d&d when I made what I thought was a funny "trap". The group was in a tunnel above a lake, that the goblins had rigged to flood the tunnel, except the trigger was a rope with a bad sign that said "pull me" in childish, very bad writing.I foolish thought it would show how much effort they put into a trap but were a bit silly to use that trigger. Everyone laughed, it was funny. A few rounds later they entered a room , and I was asking them what they were doing.I asked what Conan was doing (we all know this guy. You know it) and he was like, Conan is looking at this rope. Everyone screams Nooooo, and he is like "Yep, Conan pulls the rope". And in showing the dice gods love stupid only he lived!
>>98023825>>98023840Dungeon [caverns of thracia] has trap [flooding room]. It was very bad.
>>98023825>>98023840Dungeon [B1 in search of the unknown] has trap [pit trap]. It was very bad.
>>98023825>>98023840Dungeon [B2 keep on the borderlands] has trap [pit trap]. It was very bad.
>>98023825>>98023840Dungeon [B4 the lost city] has trap [poisoned arrow]. It was very bad.
>>98023859Groundbreaking. A 'Pull Me' sign leading to a disaster that only the resident chaos-player survives? I don't think I've ever heard that specific sequence of events in the history of every single tabletop session ever recorded. You should truly consider professional writing; the way you leaned so heavily into the 'unpredictable' Conan trope was a real masterclass in doing exactly what everyone expected.
>>98023825Wow, a lethal trap in a dungeon literally called 'Death Frost Doom'? How absolutely shocking. It’s almost as if the title was a subtle, sophisticated hint that things might be dangerous. Your discovery that a 'famous horror adventure' contains an unfair death trap is truly the cutting-edge analysis the TTRPG community has been waiting for.
>>98023794Riveting. A group of players quitting a game to play Smash Bros after a bad DM encounter? That’s definitely a story that hasn't been told a thousand times on every gaming forum since 1999. It’s truly brave of you to share such a unique, 'one-of-a-kind' experience that definitely didn't end exactly the way every single person reading it knew it would by the second sentence.
>>98023859I had a similar thing happen, but with an iron bell in the center of a room.Just an empty room with the bell, and everyone knew it would be a bad idea to ring it because the place was crawling with monsters. We laughed about how dumb it would be if someone actually rang it, and then the guy with the lowest intelligence just ran forward and banged the fuck out of it, triggering a battle almost everyone died in.Looking back, it's good he rang it. We don't have to wonder about it, it was memorable, and we used it as an example of why that character had to be kept on a short leash for the rest of the campaign.
>>98023727The worst trap I've ever seen is this >>98023795 anon's mom.
>>98023794Grimmtooth traps are a fun read but really bad as an example of "old school" traps.
I have played games before, has anybody else played games? When I played games I used a character sheet, character sheets are what are used to record your characters statistics!
>>98023958I have played before. We used character sheets to. We used pencils to write on the character sheets. A friend of mine used a pen. It was memorable!
>>98023958>>98023969I have played too. We used dice of different shapes. What a great thread.
[funny thing] happened in my campaign. It was memorable.
>>98023973>We used dice of different shapes.What shapes tho?
>>98023870>You can pull the fish out of your ass anytime now, assuming you're done being busy pulling the fish out of your throatNta but I've asked you in the past, why are you incapable of ever making any reply that is talking normal?Every reply you make is angry and defensive and really childish and I'm just curious why you do that
>>98023985Named after some old mediterranean retard that liked to diddle boys.Not men, boys. Little bitty things.
>>98023815>You must just be a broken chatbot, because nobody who isn't a actual clinical retard, could post such juvenile childish insults over and over thinking that they are doing somethingWell, we have provided ample evidence that you have clinical autism. Your defective theory of mind is telling in this regard.
>>98023841>That just you but replace face with ass.How old are you, son?
>>98023806>If you're not the same person you're doing an awful good job of deepthroating his cock to defend himPlease stop it with these juvenile insults.
>>98023784>Remember in the early days of fishfag posting but he spent multiple posts defending the fact that he doesn't think they are called characters, but symbols?WHAT???I totally missed this piece of fishfag lore.Please tells us more.
So my character was a furry and ge had lots of sex
>>98024008But enough about Mystara.
>>98023908Yeah, sometimes it the sheer stupidity that you recall at times. I still tell stories of a guy who threw his boots at skeletons. Lol
>>98023988Weird, I'm not the person you are replying to, but you are somehow taking something that I have said in one of my other posts and quoting it exactly while replying to someone else. Are you seriously taking my posts as copypasta at this point? Wild
>>98023996>>98023988It's very interesting how it has been noted that fishfag is incapable of coming up with new arguments, and has to rely almost exclusively on copying and pasting things that other people have said to him. In this regard you can see that he is clearly taking posts that other people have responded to him with, and then responding to other people with those paragraphs. He's trying to evolve and trying to learn, but he's a mindless amoeba.
>>98024023I remember times when I played games. I had players who performed actions, it was very memorable.
>>98024006>>98024004>>98024001>>98023996>Crossthread posts all 1 minute apart, all ass mangled seething from fishfag Lol this would all stop if you could just provide us with an actual legible functioning character sheet
>>98023825DFD is a super-overrated adventure.LotFP in general is like the exact opposite way I would make a game
>>98024047I already did. I gave you two, in fact.
>>98024026Stop lying. I'm the one who made that post.
FISSHUSUTIKKU WA O SUKI DESU KA?
>>98024073HAI, SUKI DESU.
>>98024081JAA, ANATA WA GEI NOSAKANA DESU NE.
>>98024088WATASHI WA GEI NO SAKANADE WA ARIMASEN!
>>98024092DEMO, KIMI WA FISSHUSUTIKKU GA SUKIDA YO NE?
>>98024055NTA, but never played LotFP. All the hype seemed on the art and not really the game itself. What do you think it's issues are?
>>98024092UN, SUKI DA YO.
>>98024101JAA, KIMI WA GEI NO SAKANADA NE
>>98023727>What's the worst puzzle/trap you've ever seen, and why is it almost certainly from the Tomb of Horrors?I don't think the tomb of horrors has a single good puzzle or trap.Okay, maybe the fake lich. But that's about it.
>>98024062>Two You mean those broken messes that are riddled with errors syntactical, grammatical, and mechanical? Waow
>>98024125It's pretty universally considered a bad dungeon. Sometimes it gets the "It was a tournmanent module, it's supposed to be bad" excuse, but it's generally thought of as emblematic of the worst kind of design logic.It's the exact kind of dungeon that the writer of Ready Player One would idolize.
>>98024146I played through it twice, twenty years apart.Hated it. Second time was actually worse, becuase i had forgotten how dumb it was and then it kept reminding me.
>>98023993>some old mediterranean retard that liked to diddle boys.>Not men, boys. Little bitty things.Foucault?
>>98024039I, too, remember characters taking actions in games I really played in real life. What a trip down memory lane!
>>98024026>>98024064Youre both liars. I'M Spartacus!
>>98024146>excuseJust because you're too stupid to use context for things, doesn't mean that other people are
>>98024380Miscreants dragging the name of Gary (pbuh) into the mud. Shame!
>>98024353
>>98024166NTA but I never played that one. Everything I ever heard about it just wanted me to avoid that fucking thing. And then they converted it to 5e, teaching a new generation how bad it is. Twice I had someone who brought that stinker ask if I wanted to play it. Just no.
>>98024415I hate secondaries like yourself.
>>98024380Bad design is bad design.
>>98024477Player skill issue is player skill issue
Someone is defending the fucking tomb of horrors as good design?
>>98024421Repeating bullshit obsessively doesn't make it true, fishfag.
>>98023769>2e is OSR.Wrong.
>>98020978>I love how he admitted to coming here from Reddit back in February, does not know anything about the osr or the culture of it here, and yet is accusing us of being "new converts".>>This dude is a literal religious Pilgrim trying to forcefully convert us, despite the fact that he's too stupid to realize that he is drastically outnumbered he is drastically outnumberedYeah, he's really something, isn't he?
>>98019993>It wouldn't shock me if they shared a discord as it's a very orginzed trolling campaignAh, yes, because we totally need a discord to rape you.
>>98019993>orginzedsaarI speeks wery goods english saaris learn in inglisch schools of bangalores saarvhy you no beleeve me saarvaitvhy u picks me up saarno saar pleese u no yeet me into diarrhea ditch of bangalores saarpliss tops saarnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Why do we even pretend to have mods when they let organized trolls just shit up every thread that doesn't comport to their deranged view of what is OSR?
>>98024591>Why do we even pretend to have modsfishfag, the mods have told you explicitly to stop making copycat threads and trying to hijack /osrg/. So stop whining like the little bitch that yoy are and stop trolling /osrg/
>>98024632>calls everyone fishfagDidn't read.
2e is OSR btw
>>98024779
>>98024770>calls everyone fishfagThere's so many of you, and you're all totally not fishfag, and yet you're utterly unable to have an actual conversation about games.
>>98024800>A Venn diagram which is a circle would mean that there are two groups with 100% overlap.Wrong. The shape of a Venn diagram is irrelevant, only what's inside of it matters. As long as you keep the same elements inside, changing the shape doesn't change anything. Conversely, the fact that a Venn diagram is a circle says nothing about what's inside or outside of the circle.Thus proving once again that you use "fancy" terms that you don't undersand, fishfag.
>>98024770Yep, they know it's not one person, they can't be that stupid. It takes about 5 of them to troll these threads, yet a single person can keep up with them?
>>98024866>it's always been part of the OSR No, it never was, idiot.>lestLearn to spell, you actual dyslexic retard.
>>98024591I think the goal is to make it clear that the mods are
>>98024871>Wrong. The shape of a Venn diagram is irrelevant, only what's inside of it matters. As long as you keep the same elements inside, changing the shape doesn't change anything.The point of a Venn diagram is to show the overlap and lack thereof among subsets of two or more groupings through the shapes made by overlapping circles representing each grouping.>Conversely, the fact that a Venn diagram is a circle says nothing about what's inside or outside of the circle.There is no "outside" "the" circle. That is a complete nonsense statement.
>>98024879It was always part of the OSR. I was there son. Hell a lot of folks were there. There are OSR games based on 2e. You rejecting reality will not change it
>>98024892Where's them rootin' tootin' screenshots you totally posted earlier, foghorn?
>>98024892>I was thereBullshit. Post proof from the accounts on Dragonsfoot, rpgnet and enworld that you claimed to have or shut the fuck up.
>>98024898You ignore reality, I am not deep driving for you to lie about it. It's been shown 2e is OSR and you are wrong about it, but you just ignore it .I call you flat earthers as you think the same way. No amount of evidence can break your delusional thinking.
>>98024905I am not as stupid as you seem to be, so no. You guys have been shown many screenshots killing your false cliam, you reject them all and act like children.Maybe you will be smarter when you are older.
>>98024917So you're making shit up, and you weren't there.
>>98024871You're actually this retarded, holy shit. No wonder you like ACKS so much.In a standard Venn diagram:- Each circle represents a set.- Overlaps show intersections (shared elements).- Non-overlapping parts show unique elements.If the entire diagram collapses visually into a single circle, it indicates that all the sets involved are effectively the same (equal sets). There's no meaningful difference or unique regions left: all the circles coincide perfectly.
>>98024932Holy Mother of Maladjusted Autism
>>98024938>says a person is misusing a term>has it explained how they are correctly using the term>accuses the other person of being autisticSo you're just a troll, then. You know that's reportable?
>>98024944>im gonna go cwy to the mods
>>98024956Did I say I was going to cry to the mods? Obviously they're too busy beating their meat to MLP porn to do their jobs.
>>98024770>claims not to be Fishfag>gets utterly assblasted when called Fishfag
>>98024909What deep delving? You said earlier when people asked for proof to your ahistorical claims that "the screenshots have been posted". So just link to them, or share the images from your hard drive. It's not hard. You've been dodging this for three threads now, foghorn.
>>98024779Nope.
>>98024973>uses shibboleth exclusive to annoying people>gets angry when people don't read his posts
>>98024978that wasn't his post, fishfag, that was mine
>>98024892>I was there, Sondalf!Sure Fagrond, I'll bet. That's why you're completely ignorant of what it was like and at the same time seething like a little baby.
>>98024909>It's been shown 2e is OSR>t. Prince of Nigeria and chairman of Lagos First Merchant Bank (as has been proven)You've shown nothing, retard, just made a bunch of totally baseless, incorrect assertions.
>>98024980I don't read posts by people who call everyone fishfag. Why would I? It's literally the most bad faith thing you can do.
>>98024917>nooooo you can't demand my prooferinooooooos!!!!>don't call me on my blufferini noooooo!!!!!!
>>98024944>So you're just a troll, then. You know that's reportable?lmao if reports did anything your carcass would be quartered in a meat locker by now
>>98024991If reports did anything you fucks would have been banned a long time ago, since you're a bunch of immigrants kicked out of your homelands (Reddit, RPG.net) and now making a mess in the only place that will tolerate you.
>>98024978Anon is right, that wasn't my post, Fishfag. It's just that everybody can recognize you for the mentally defective loser that you are (and by the way, where are all the totally incredibly really real discussions about OSR that you're so insistent on wanting to have ITT? Looks like you're not even trying? Just weeping helplessly over shitposts and malding aloud? Are you going to instantly abandon this thread too when it inevitably hits bump limit without a single real post? Huh, Fishfag?).
>>98024999Stopped reading at:>It's just that everybody can recognize you But only because I'm such a fast reader I couldn't completely ignore what came after "fishfag." Fuck off, faggot loser. Write another ten paragraphs about how everyone who dislikes you is actually fishfag.
>>98024998>If reports did anything you fucks would have been banned a long time agoIncorrect! I've never posted on either of those faggy websites and I was here when /osrg/ was started and was a comfy place without trolls like you. I and the others are the actual thread regulars, so we wouldn't get banned over kicking out topic sliding entryists – as you saw yourself when your fake /osrg/s started getting instajanned, and you got shut down when you went crying to the mods over it.
>>98025004>I'm such a fast readerFishfag, an actual literal retard, constantly claims to be smart, a fast reader, and to be able to predict things that no one could see coming, like that the BrOSR would shitpost his next thread.
>>98025010Good trick saving until the end of the post to make it clear you are another schizophrenic calling everyone fishfag. I never posted in /osrg/. Go back to your containment thread you faggot loser.
>>98025016>Fishfagdidn't read, lol. Write fifty paragraphs about how everybody else is fishfag, I'm sure that'll really make me mad.
>>98025017>Go back to your containment threadSherlock Fishfag still hasn't realised what's actually going on.lol
>>98025021We're writing to amuse each other. Nobody gives a fuck what you read, you're just the assmangled butt of the joke.
>>98025004>I stopped reading before I got to the extremely uncomfortable question which I wouldn't have had any answer to, isn't that convenient? Tee heeThe word I would use is "transparent".
>>98025026>>98025028>>98025040See, it's actually VERY easy to tell you guys are unpopular on this board, because I'm not fishfag, but you all say I am. If your position was actually popular, some people who don't care about the stupid drama in your shitty general would agree with you. Somebody would say "Yeah, OSR actually does exclude 2e" without saying "btw you are fishfag for not liking ACKS."But they don't. They never do. Every single one of you retards always, always calls everyone who dislikes ACKS or your shitty insular definition of "OSR" fishfag, because YOU are the ones operating under a delusion of your own popularity.
>>98025049>I'm not fishfag, but you all say I amLook, either it's one guy or all of your mothers had cravings for the same brand of lead paint chips when they were pregnant with you.We know for a fact there's one shitter that's willing to lie, cheat, falseflag, faggot about and act fucking retarded in order to get what he wants, a full throated "No bad tactics only bad targets" untermensch.So why shouldn't we be suspect when we see posts going>I'm totes a new person and I also agree with [THING RETARD SAID]>Wow, I too am new to this thread and I also think he is right :)>Y'all a hootenannyin' 'bout them /osrg/ chuds? >Well I reckon they be a bunch of low down varmints son, now let me go back to wranglin' lil' dawgies. Rawhide.etc, etc.He's been up to this for about 18 months by this point at least, given that's give-or-take when he first earned his nickname.Either it's one retard, or one retard and his discord programmer socks brigade.And neither of them have, even once mind you, contributed to any thread they've been in in a constructive manner.
>>98024998Ah, it's fishfag protection time. Having been found out that he's from there and roasted for it, now it's time to discover that all those nasty trolls who are also one guy who were also here since 2012 are also new immigrants from reddit.I love watching fishfag ahistory develop in real time.
>>98025055>And neither of them have, even once mind you, contributed to any thread they've been in in a constructive manner.Oh, as opposed to you band of retards, who just come into any thread you can find an excuse to and spam it up with garbage posts?>ehm, there are obvious spam shitter posts here about what weapons you like to play with!!I literally believe every fake shit post here was made by you at this point. It's completely indistinguishable from the diarrhea dumps you take in every thread.>>98025066You guys were banned from Reddit for brigading. This is just what happened. Are you really going to make me go find the posts where the mods of those boards explain this?
>>98025066If there's so many of you, why are you so utterly unable to have a conversation that isn't obviously a fake to simulate engagement?
>>98025080>come into any thread you can find an excuse to and spam it up with garbage postsIt's not spamming, it's cause and effect. If you create a copycat thread to try and take over a general, the regulars of that general will shitpost the fuck out of it, that's just a simple inevitable consequence.Whether you're the good guy in your own mind is immaterial, how hard you seethe is immaterial. There is no general anywhere on /tg/ or the entire board that will just accept a takeover attempt calmly and do nothing.
>>98025080Oh please do get those screenshots showing that the posters of /osrg were banned from reddit. You can add them to the pile of posts that totally show 2e is OSR that you really truly have and posted in the past but can't seem to locate at the moment for three threads running.
>>98025080>You guys were banned from RedditBased if true.
>>98025080>banned from RedditGo back to plebbit if you like it so much there. They even use your favourite definition of OSR there:"A game is OSR if it identifies as OSR."
>>98025090https://www.reddit.com/r/osr/comments/17nefmm/re_subreddit_rule_changes_blacklisted_creators/>>98025096No, it wasn't based, getting banned for coordinating on Discord to get the most upvooots is actually even more faggoty than using Reddit normally.>>98025101See, the difference between you and me, is I don't want to post on Reddit. You do. It's just that you are such a bunch of annoying pricks that you got your whole game banned from there.
>>98025111>someone got banned from plebbit, therefore it's you!Shelock Fishfag's impeccable deductions.
>>98025111>I don't want to post on RedditWhy? You'd love it there. That place is up your speed and you clearly worship it.
>>98025080>just come into any thread you can find an excuse toWrong! ONLY threads trying to push your fake revisionist OSR definition and/or hijack /osrg/ get spammed. Don't like it? Literally all you need to do (and you've been told this dozens of times) is post a thread about the specific game or games you want to discuss, don't claim they're OSR, don't push your faggoty redefiition, and don't mald about /osrg/. You'll be able to talk about the game to your heart's content.The fact you refuse to do this is proof you're just trolling.
>>98025080>You guys were banned from Reddit for brigading.Nope. Never posted there in the first place.
>>98025134>all you need to do is post a thread about the specific game or games you want to discuss
>>98025080>You guys were banned from Reddit for brigading. This is just what happened.>he is still pushing his conspiracy that all the trolls are evil ACKShills, but can't say it outright because he's been shredded for it too many timeslmao, truly feeble
>>98025111"you guys" is now Alexander Macris? The creator of ACKS is now also all of /osrg, who is also from RPG.net even though he's banned from there? I know your schizoid brain is fried on lithium and what have you, but can't you even think this shit through for 5 seconds?Also, where's those totally real screenshots about the history of the OSR you say that have already been posted, fishfag? How long are you going to dodge this?
>>98025140lmao
>>98025119>someoneNo, you guys, specifically, got banned from Reddit. I can tell it was you and your group, because you call people fishfag, which is a name that directly refers to somebody making fun of a boring ass ACKS story about smoke fish. Because every single /osrg/ poster is just a fucking ACKSfag, even though ACKS does not date back to the first decade of D&D, and also is shit.>>98025134>We get to spam every thread that uses "OSR" in a way we don't likeI mean, I suppose you do, but that's because the mods won't do their jobs.>>98025144All the trolls are "evil ACKS shills," yes. Obviously. Duh.
>>98025144>can't say it outright because he's been shredded for it too many timesYeah, that's making me said. I have a meme prepared just for the occasion, but he won't let me use it.
>>98025149He'll dodge every question that would instantly reveal his bullshit, he won't even acknowledge you asked it because even that would be too revealing. Just look at all the times he's been asked why he doesn't post on Reddit if it's so great and the rules are exactly to his liking. He's just a faggoty autistic troll trying to get revenge on /osrg/ for some imaginary slight.
>>98025155>you guys, specifically, got banned from Reddit. I can tell it was you and your group, because you call people fishfagTake your meds, nobody uses the "fishfag" nickname on plebbit.
>>98025161You are the ones who wanted to post on Reddit, and then got banned for trying to manipulate votes. I don't like Reddit because upvotes turn the vast majority of subs into a uniparty; you guys like it because of that feature, you just got upset you couldn't ballot stuff into a victory.
>>98025155>every single /osrg/ poster is just a fucking ACKSfag, even though ACKS does not date back to the first decade of D&DLmao are you stupid? It includes the clones.>and also is shitThis actually does not make a game not OSR. BFRPG is shit, but nobody says it doesn't belong in /osrg/. They just rip on it for being bad. The fact that 2e is unmitigated dogshit is... well okay, it's not completely unrelated to it not being an old-school edition due to its unique position, but they're still pretty orthogonal things.
>>98025155>every single /osrg/ poster is just a fucking ACKSfagFINALLY I >>98025157 GET TO USE THIS MEME! THANK GOD!
>>98025119>>98025149The ENTIRE ACKS SYSTEM was banned from discussion from how rancid its primary advocates were being, not just one person. Which appears relevant due to your lots' posting habits and attempted reversal of the "fishfag" label to the pro-ACKS person giving the namesake anecdote.>>98025134>don't claim they're OSRThe lack of anything even resembling a governing body over English in general or this matter in specific means that it is subject to descriptive definition, not prescriptive. That /osrg/'s present OPs reject it consequently has absolutely no authority on the meaning of OSR.>The fact you refuse to do this is proof you're just trolling....Says the one habitually raiding other threads beside self-admitted and intentionally-obnoxiously-obvious spammers, despite four attempts at providing containment threads for this argument.
>>98025155>I mean, I suppose you do, but that's because the mods won't do their jobs.Kek, going by the fate of your many pathetic attempts to replace /osrg/ with your own rival /osrg/ OPs, I doubt you'd like it if the mods got involved.
>>98025166>You are the ones who wanted to post on RedditI've never posted once on plebbit in my life.
>>98025172>B-but it was banned from plebbit!lmao nobody caresgo back there, tourist
>>98025176...I repeat, says the one habitually raiding other threads beside self-admitted and intentionally-obnoxiously-obvious spammers, like >>98023840.
>>98025172>The lack of anything even resembling a governing body over EnglishHoly Mother of Maladjusted Autism.
>>98025161He's never explained why if he's really interested in an alternative channel to discuss his fake and gay OSR he instantly abandons each one of these fake and gay threads when it hits bump limit, either. Like, it doesn't even have time to leave page 1 before he's out of there.
>>98025182Which substantiates the actual underlying claim.>>98025186Blame the Parisians for making that a relevant distinction, and your fellows for attempting to prescribe a definition of "OSR" that excludes AD&D 2e no matter examples of usage otherwise.
>>98025172>spammersCall things by their name. It's not spamming, it's gang raping.>four attempts at providing containment threads for this argument.The BrOSR conquers all OSR threads, you scrawny smelly nerd.
>>98025192>Blame the Parisians for making that a relevant distinctionHoly Mother of Obnoxious Midwits.
>>98025176I wouldn't give a single fuck because I didn't make this thread, faggot. Nobody likes you on the whole board, you're all a bunch of circlejerking retards from /osrg/ who spam and shit up the front page. Every time you step out of your little circlejerk thread, people insult you and you call them fishfag because it's easier for you to believe that the entire rest of /tg/ is on your side, like we all secretly love ACKS and want to jerk it off in our mouths.
>>98025166>You are the ones who wanted to post on RedditLmao pay attention, Fishfag. I've never wanted to post on the OSR plebbit specifically because it's run by sanctimonious troons who think anything is OSR that claims to be. (You may recall that all of plebbit is infamously controlled by child-molesting trannies.) Instead I post here where people actually know what OSR means and I can freely call you a fag for acting like one.
>>98025168Nope. Never has been. Just bandwagoning by storygaming niggers sad that nobody likes their edish.
>>98025191Because the entire reason it keeps hitting bump limit is you bitter retards who don't understand how words work keep spamming them, even past bump limit with the classic attempts at getting the last word it. You are literally denigrating these threads for YOUR shitting in them.>>98025202>like we all secretly love ACKSIts revamp of tiering play as a ground-up design expectation and point-based homebrew benchmarking DO sound nice...
>>98025172Survival of the fittest, Homotesticles! Sucks to suck. Get lifting, find Jesus, eat meat.
>>98025202>I wouldn't give a single fuck because I didn't make this thread, faggot.lmao you're completely assmangled but you're trying to pass for a neutral observer>spam and shit up the front pageRight, you're totally someone from the front page who too it upon himself to defend the board, with no dog in the fight!
>>98025172>wah wah muh governing body muh sophismsAre you stupid? (Well okay, I mean yeah, obviously, but...) Nobody took a stance on the prescriptive vs. descriptive split in linguistics, you were simply given a clear, direct set of instructions for how to post threads without getting them flooded with shitposts. Follow them or don't, and take the consequences if you refuse.
>>98025209>you bitter retards who don't understand how words workHoly Mother of Midwits.
>>98025209>Its revamp of tiering play as a ground-up design expectation and point-based homebrew benchmarking DO sound nice...It gets recommended for its Domain system, I went to read them and discovered it expects you to make a bunch of annoying bookkeeping rolls that round out to 0. Garbage system shilled by obnoxious faggots.>>98025214>everyone is fishfagThis is just schizophrenia, bro.>>98025221>flooded with shitposts. So you are self-admittedly spamming and making the board worse as an attempt to act as minimods because nobody in the entire world agrees with your stupid definition of OSR?
>>98025183>I will respond by once again bawwing my lungs outOkay, but that doesn't change a thing. You still got pwnt by the mods and we don't.
>>98025225If there's so many of you, why are you unable to have a real conversation about games, fishfag?
>>98025234If it's all one person, why don't you just let him spam up his own thread with 50 posts from one IP, then report him to the mods for spam?
>>98025202>circlejerking retards from /osrg/ who spam and shit up the front pageLmao, nobody from /osrg/ is posting these spam threads, retard (as you know, since you did). I'm consistently saging all my posts too (as everyone ITT should), so nobody can accuse me of contributing to this dogshit being on the first page.
>>98025225>So you are self-admittedly spammingNo, we're self-admittedly gang raping you.
I never played any of the old D&D versions, what is it about 2E that causes this kind of behavior?
>>98025172The brigade claim was immediately shown to be a joke (pic-related: 11 upvotes! Huge influx of posters out of nowhere!).In any case, in typical fishfag fashion, not a goddamn bit of this has anything to do with /osrg, your original claim. Again, waiting for this proof you promised, or the other proof you promised. Any time now, fishfag...
>>98025237Answer the question: If there's so many of you, why are you unable to have a real conversation about games, fishfag?>then report him to the mods for spamThe BrOSR don't report to the mods. We take matters into our hands and rape the scrawny nerds like you.
>>98025209>Because the entire reason it keeps hitting bump limit is you bitter retards who don't understand how words work keep spamming them, even past bump limit with the classic attempts at getting the last word it. You are literally denigrating these threads for YOUR shitting in them.What the fu– I can't even make sense of this argument. You're saying it's because we're bad at philology that the thread gets crashed, and if we had a better grasp of semiotics it would somehow survive? Or are you arguing we're somehow not aware that this thread being flooded with shitposts isn't *your* ideal outcome? What? >even past bump limit with the classic attempts at getting the last word itKek, we're only doing that because it's a zero effort way to get you to seethe so hard you shit yourself and write longass screeds into the void in dead threads, because we know you just can't help your OCD compulsion to somehow win and get the last word. The effort to reward ratio is huge.
>>98025248Waow, a screenshot of a Reddit post. I guess that makes it true.>>98025249>Answer the question: If there's so many of you, why are you unable to have a real conversation about games, fishfag?Probably because there's some dipshits spamming every fucking one of these threads with garbage, so a normal slow thread gets overwhelmed with their garbage posts. Duh. How many people are supposed to talk about these games every day? Even if somebody is playing a game, they'll make a post about it, and then maybe a few more in conversation about details/questions/next session, and then that'll be it for the week. Fucking retard.
>>98025225>So you are self-admittedly spammingWhat, this is news to you?>and making the board worseNah, this makes the board better both in the short (mocking you and cracking jokes with the bros is fun, and keeping your malding contained outside of /osrg/ improves the general immeasurably) and long (once you realize you're never going to win, get sick of getting blown out and finally take the L, or once the mods act to deal with your shit, /tg/ quality will be vastly increased) term.>nobody in the entire world agrees with your stupid definition of OSR?Nah, everybody agerees with our obviously, objectively correct definition. There's literally only one single assmad schizotranny (namely, you) who doesn't accept it, and you admitted to the mod that that's only because you can't get any traction for threads about your preferred games if you can't force them on /osrg/.
>>98025274lol, when claim to have posted shots in the past (you don't) they're rock solid proof. When shots are posted from *the very link you yourself shared, you complete imbecile* complete with url you can follow yourself to verify, they're suddenly fake news.fishfag: allergic to evidence
>>98025237I've reported every single one of your faggot threads. They don't get deleted, so then we have to take matters into our own hands. Okay, fair enough; that doesn't get deleted either, so clearly it's at least as acceptable for us to spam you out as it is for you to post poorly disguised hijack attempts.
>>98025247It's mostly behind the scene stuff and a switch of focus. Rules wise, it's the same basic system. You can use 1e/2e books and characters with zero changes.However GG got kicked out of TSR, pudding off some old heads. Then 2e cleaned up the book a bit to ride out the satanic panic, and switched from "you can only play this one set way ever" to "it's your game, play it how you like" mindset.The old heads have hated 2e since 89 and the newbies they bring in is taught this mindless hate. It's just nonsense.
>>98025247>I never played any of the old D&D versions, what is it about 2E that causes this kind of behavior?It's an unbelievably bad edition that tried to turn D&D into something it emphatically was not and wasn't suited to being (an epic fantasy novel trilogy simulator), but some extremely autistic fags are still attached to it for trying, and they attempt to shit up threads about the earlier coherent editions (which to put it briefly are more like an analog Roguelike, the causality goes in the opposite direction obviously but that's the easiest way to describe it) when they're told their garbage has no business being psoted in unrelated threads.Like, imagine if Cyberpunk threads were constantly plagued by some assranger who insists that Shadowrun is the same game and he has to be allowed to post about it there.
>>98025298>it's the same basic systemWrong
>>98025237>let me samefag, lie, and trollNo.
>>98025283No, it doesn't make the board better to shit it up, you fucking retard.>everybody agerees with our obviously, objectively correct definition. No, literally no one does, that's why you have to spam up any thread that uses a different definition. If they agreed with your definition, then you wouldn't have to organize these spamming brigades, people would naturally go "Uh, 2e isn't OSR."Reminder:https://itch.io/games/top-sellers/tag-osrhttps://www.amazon.com/s?k=osr+rpg+books&rh=p_72%3A1250221011&dc&qid=1778345355&rnid=1250219011&ref=sr_nr_p_72_1&ds=v1%3AdjhA53h6jdSceEOr55xn5DCAgvnjvas96N%2FCJdDMPqUPic from DTRPG. >>98025291Some random guy in a Reddit thread makes a claim, therefore it's true. This is the level of intellectual capacity of the average ACKS fag.
>>98025314You wouldn't be "letting" him samefag, lie, and troll, you would be actually stopping him from doing that, by getting him banned.But you won't do that because you know that it's not all the same person.
>>98025291Kek, he's such a fucking chumpIf Fishfag really isn't just one guy, it's stunning how they all have the exact same deflection tactics, chips on their shoulders, and inability to just take the fucking L. It's just one guy.
>>98025316The shot, from the very post which you used as unimpeachable evidence of your own claim, contains what people call a url, also known as a "link". It shows reddit-generated stats for the post in question--your own post--a process known as "providing evidence to support your claims". I know this is a process totally alien to your mindset (where's those screenshots, fishfag), but I thought I'd explain it to you.Any more sad, weak dodges about the material from your very own link, fishfag?
>>98025316>No, it doesn't make the board better to shit it up, you fucking retard.Well, then stop, fagballs. Easy solution. Stop posting these shitty OSR revisionism threads. You've been butthurt now for six months over losing decisively in your struggle to redefine /osrg/, how much longer are you going to keep at it? A year? Two years? We're not going anywhere; we have our general and we'll defend it. All the same whether we spend another six months blowing your asshole wide open, or eighteen.
>>98025316>people would naturally go "Uh, 2e isn't OSR."That's... literally what's been happening the entire time, you monumental world class fucking imbecile. And every time, every single time, you shriek and claw your own face screaming about how only a paid ACKS shill would ever say such a thing.
>>98025248>In any case, in typical fishfag fashion, not a goddamn bit of this has anything to do with /osrg, your original claim.Not actually my claim, fishfag, >>98025262>You're saying it's because we're bad at philology that the thread gets crashed,No, I use "who don't understand how words work" as a continuation of the "you bitter retards" descriptor referring to the continual insistence that OSR MUST exclude AD&D 2e, a necessarily prescriptivist definition despite such only existing in English in very narrow jargon conditions quite far from entertainment genre logic that is where "OSR" resides.>Or are you arguing we're somehow not aware that this thread being flooded with shitposts isn't *your* ideal outcome?I'm saying that the criticized phenomenon replied to only exists because you are flaming retards who insist on rendering every such thread as unusable as possible. "Don't feed the trolls" only goes so far when they will happily eat a third of the pump limit inside an our.>Kek, we're only doing that because it's a zero effort way to get you to seethe so hard you shit yourself and write longass screeds into the void in dead threadsAnd this makes you siding with spammers like >>98023825 look better how, exactly? Something something I'm not owned, something something transmuted into a corn cob...>>98025309>It's an unbelievably bad edition that tried to turn D&D into something it emphatically was not and wasn't suited to being (an epic fantasy novel trilogy simulator)Dragonlance was AD&D 1e, only the 1990 recompilation was 2e. To say nothing of how events spiraled out in Greyhawk and the Forgotten Realms. The reason the scope of core expanded is because people had already been playing that way for years, because exactly such novels were directly cited as inspirations the ENTIRE way back.
>>98025341Still waiting for proof of your many, many claims, fishfag. Any time now, it's totally real and happening...
>>98025347Outright screenshots were provided previously and dismissed, and the spamming makes it quite annoying to fish them back up.
>>98025324Right, so this is the image he linked. One thing you'll notice there, is that yes, it has 11 upvotes - with a 53% upvote rate. That means that it had ~180 votes total. This is just rank deceptive framing, so it's no wonder you gave a screenshot of a post instead of a link to make it easy to check.>>98025330>We're not going anywhere; we have our general and we'll defend it. Go to your general and defend it, then, don't shit up every other thread on the damn board which doesn't use the term OSR the way you do.>>98025336No, it isn't what happens. What happens is you /osrg/ faggots shit up the thread with worthless spam posts while calling everyone fishfag, because it's only your tiny clique of circlejerking fucktards that behave like this.
>>98025341>OSR can mean whatever you want maaaaaan, words are just, like, noises maaaaaan>Okay well it means this, then>nooooooo not like that!!!! my hecking forcerinooooooooIf words are defined by use, then the fact that everyone on Earth except you excludes 2e from the definition of OSR means that 2e is not and never has been OSR. Your hapless sophisms have no power here.>Dragonlance was AD&D 1e, only the 1990 recompilation was 2e.Right, which is why the cutoff for the old school is the release of DL1, but this didn't actually infect the *ruleset* until the release of 2e.
>>98025360>If words are defined by use, then the fact that everyone on Earth except you excludes 2e from the definition of OSR means that 2e is not and never has been OSR.They don't, though, that's literally just a tiny clique of people, as repeatedly shown. Normal use is that OSR not only includes 2e, it also includes Into the Odd, Shadowdark, and Mothership.
>>98025351>don't shit up every other thread on the damn board which doesn't use the term OSR the way you do.Nope! Gonna keep doing it. Adapt to our conditions or keep getting your threads blown apart. Now what, fag?>No, it isn't what happens.Yes it is. Every single time someone tells you that 2e isn't and never has been OSR, you have a screaming fit and call him an ACKS chud and an /osrg/ faggot, even though it's just normal common sense and you keep getting told dozens of times per thread.
>>98025365>as repeatedly shownLmao you haven't shown shit, mongoloid. Especially not a direct counterfactual like that.>Normal use is that OSR not only includes 2e, it also includes Into the Odd, Shadowdark, and Mothership.Nope! Incorrect.
>>98025365>Shadowdark is OSR.Go back to plebbit
>>98025360>If words are defined by useFucking midwit
>>98025365Okay, so if you have your way everywhere else as you claim, why try to force your false definition of the OSR here where nobody accepts it?
>>98025360>If words are defined by use, then the fact that everyone on Earth except you excludes 2e from the definition of OSR means that 2e is not and never has been OSR.I'll just point back at >>98025316 giving counter-examples:>Reminder:>https://itch.io/games/top-sellers/tag-osr>https://www.amazon.com/s?k=osr+rpg+books&rh=p_72%3A1250221011&dc&qid=1778345355&rnid=1250219011&ref=sr_nr_p_72_1&ds=v1%3AdjhA53h6jdSceEOr55xn5DCAgvnjvas96N%2FCJdDMPqU>Pic from DTRPG.>>98025360>Right, which is why the cutoff for the old school is the release of DL1, but this didn't actually infect the *ruleset* until the release of 2e.Which does absolutely nothing about all the Greyhawk and Forgotten Realms "storyshitting" material responsible for Dragonlance attaching to D&D. There is no clean line, because the very word "roleplaying" is about it. The dungeon crawl and domain play are merely framing devices, not the intrinsic point, you sperging reactionary moron.>>98025371>and call him an ACKS chudCan you point to literally a single case of this, or did you hallucinate it from all the gaslighting about who fishfag is?
>>98025341>the continual insistence that OSR MUST exclude AD&D 2eIt's not that it must, it's that it does.
>>98025321>no but seriously let me samefag, lie, and troll unopposedNo.
>>98025393>There is no clean line, because the very word "roleplaying" is about it.>he doesn't even know that it's a fantastic adventure gamelmaoooo
>>98025311It in fact is. You can play any 1e character or mod with 2e with 1e
>>98025393>reactionaryGo back to plebbit and rpgnet, tourist
>>98025376See >>98025316. You are a tiny clique of annoying faggots. The fact that you mentally edit things out doesn't change reality.>>98025391Nobody's trying to "force" their "false definition of the OSR." They're trying to make threads to discuss OSR games, as the term is normally used, and you and your clique of fucktards are constantly shitting them up because you're assblasted that literally no one outside of /osrg/ agrees with your definition.
>>98025408You can't even create a character sheet that isn't chock full of errors. Don't pretend that you know how to play the games. You only read setting books as if they were novels
Bros, it's so fucking funny that Fishfag's insanely assblasted about not being allowed to push his bullshit in peace, but all he can think to do about it is demand that people stop fucking him, even as he admits that he's absolutely defenseless against it. It's such a pathetic, whiny, self-pitying performance I can't help but crack up.
>>98025402They're not samefagging and you know they're not samefagging, that's why you have to come into these threads and shit them up. If they were samefagging you could report them for spam, but they aren't, so you can't.
>>98025414>are constantly shitting them upNo. We're raping you. And no amount of whining will get us to stop. It only makes us harder.
>>98025420Tiny-dicked little loser who nobody loves, not even his mother.
>>98025418If there's so many of you, why are you unable to have a single conversation that isn't you obviously talking to yourself?
>>98025414>They're trying to make threads to discuss OSR games, as the term is normally usedNo, that's not how the term is normally used. We've linked you to blog posts, DF posts, comments, all manner of things to show you the compact among actual OSR players and creators, and you just flatly deny it, then think you have some sort of invincible authority by pointing to a bunch of unpoliced storefronts where any faggot who wants to flog five extra copies can just claim his game is OSR.>you and your clique of fucktards are constantly shitting them upUh-huh, and you've outright admitted that you're powerless to stop it, so what are you going to do about that? Accept that posting these revisionist bullshit threads is a pointless waste of time, or keep crying and showing your entire ass in public?
You can't use facts and reason with the BrOSR troll cucks from the osrg. The issue is they don't stop trolling anytime ISR comes up not from Thier echo chamber
>>98025429>show you the compact*show you the compact agreement
>>98025429>ISR>Thierlmaooooo
>>98025415Once more different anon. And you are not responding to what I said. You can factually use 1e and 2e material interchangeablely with zero changes needed
>>98025414>Nobody's trying to "force" their "false definition of the OSR." They're trying to make threads to discuss OSR gamesThis doesn't actually answer the question. If everywhere else agrees with your retarded take, why force it here where nobody does? Stop dodging. Answer the question.
>>98025429>We've linked you to blog posts, DF posts, comments, all manner of things to show you the compact among actual OSR players and creatorsAs insulated examples.>and you just flatly deny it, then think you have some sort of invincible authority by pointing to a bunch of unpoliced storefronts where any faggot who wants to flog five extra copies can just claim his game is OSR.Which form general trends of use, supported by purchase volume.Sorry if you can't wrap your head around descriptivist definition, dumdum.
>>98025422>who nobody loves, not even his motherAgain with the "no u" comeback.You know an insult really made fishfag assmangled when he tries to reuse it on somebody else.Only he doesn't understand that the reason the insult works on him but not on others is that he is actually a detestable subhuman being that nobody likes IRL
>>98025439Oop, meant for >>98025430
>>98025429>blog posts, DF posts, commentsGuys, he linked a blog post! A blog post! Not only that, a post on some forum you've never heard of! And comments! These prove that their definition of OSR is correct, unlike the largest retailer of books in the world having people use the term "OSR" to sell their books to people who are looking for "OSR." Everybody who has ever bought a Shadowdark book after typing "OSR" was actually tricked - they were looking for a shitty B/X clone like ACKS, and foolishly bought Shadowdark instead.>Uh-huh, and you've outright admitted that you're powerless to stop it, so what are you going to do about that? Accept that posting these revisionist bullshit threads is a pointless waste of time, or keep crying and showing your entire ass in public?I haven't posted a single one of these threads. If I was going to do anything, it would be go into /osrg/ and start shitting it up, just like you do in all these threads. But I'm a more civilized person than you, and I have better things to do with my life than try to make the world a worse place. One of the many differences between us.>>98025443The question is based on the false premise that I posted this thread, so I can't answer it.
>>98025430>ThierFishfag's dyslexic lap dog from rpgnet is back!Learn to spell, retard
>>98025441>You can factually use 1e and 2e material interchangeablely with zero changes neededUh-huh? So how many creatures do you encounter via the base rules when you roll up a dungeon encounter not already specified by any module used? What's the procedure in 2e?
>>98025441>You can factually use 1e and 2e material interchangeablely with zero changes neededWrong
>>98025453>The question is based on the false premise that I posted this threadNope. By defending the OP and arguing the definition you're still trying to force it. You could be spending that time literally anywhere else, if everywhere else agrees with you. Answer the question.
>>98025444>descriptivist definitionMore midwit cringe
>>98025455Rpgnet banning you chuds upsets you to no end. Your ass still stings from it
>>98025461The cool thing about 4chan is that you can post anonymously and enjoy discussing things without having to be overly concerned about what you posted last week, or last year. You faggots hate that idea, which is why you call everyone fishfag. 4chan is not, and never was, about being maximally antisocial 24/7. So that's why I want to post here rather than somewhere else.
>>98025456This is a strawman fallacy. It's not addressing or even challenging what I said. You skipped it entirely to talk about a fucking subsystem.So let's get back to my cliam. Can you use 1e and 2e material interchangeablely?
>>98025444>Which form general trends of use, supported by purchase volume.>Sorry if you can't wrap your head around descriptivist definition, dumdum.lmaoooooooo you could label 5e a Cyberpunk game on DTRPG and it would instantly be the best seller in the Cyberpunk line, these tags mean nothing, shithead. You have no business calling anyone else a midwit. Pic related.
>>98025497>Can you use 1e and 2e material interchangeablely?Nope. Not at all.
>>98025473>The cool thing about 4chan is that you can post anonymously and enjoy discussing thingsYeah, I see you're having a great time!I'll give you props for actually having the balls to give a straight answer to a question for once though.
>>98025498You know as well as everyone else that when somebody goes on itch.io or DTRPG or Amazon, searches for OSR, and sees a Mothership or Shadowdark product or whatever, they don't think "fuck, another mislabeled product," they go and buy that shit. I don't know why we're all expected to buy into your ridiculous, delusional, alternate universe where this is like somebody just adding the "4x" tag to Minecraft so now Minecraft is the top rated 4x game.>>98025505I enjoy it in threads without you people around, yes. Get back to your containment thread, faggot.
>>98025507>I enjoy it in threads without you people around, yes.How would you know?> Get back to your containment thread, faggot.No lmao
>>98025510>How would you know?Because I post in threads that aren't about OSR stuff? Like general discussion topics, a bit of /exg/, some /wbg/, etc? Duh?Oh, wait, you think everybody who dislikes you is fishfag, I forgot. Stop being a schizophrenic.
The trolls will ignore this, but from Wikipedia's retroclone page on list of popular games
>>98025507>You know as well as everyone else that when somebody goes on itch.io or DTRPG or Amazon, searches for OSR, and sees a Mothership or Shadowdark product or whatever, they don't think "fuck, another mislabeled product," they go and buy that shit.I actually don't know anything of the sort. The only reaction I've ever heard anyone articulate is "fuck, another mislabeled product, this tag is useless, janky piece of shit storefront". As for paying money for Mothership, that's an activity for the mentally retarded and can be safely ignored as a factor.
>>98025513Lmao, the mere fact FG&G is on a list of popular clones should tell you anybody can just edit that page to say whatever they want.When's the last time you saw a blog or board post or anything from someone playing FG&G? That's right, never fucking happened.
>>98025514>I actually don't know anything of the sort.Okay, so you're severely mentally retarded rather than just annoying, got it. Will filter you going forward, dw.
>>98025502Ok, you are a liar and have never actually played D&D until recently if at all. Gods damn that is a dumb lie
>>98025517See, you did what I stated. You reject reality
>>98025521>>98025523>>98025527>holelessly assmangledThanks for wasting three more posts pushing this dump into the bump limit bucket!
Why does the fish not seem to realize that we don't give a single fuck what any other website or any other community defines osr as? /osrg/ is a niche thread on a niche board on a niche website, and wants to have its own line drawn in the sand of what it does and does not allow, and yet somehow this sends him into an autistic rage that cannot be quenched by anything other than ruining the board for everyone else.
>>98024998Nigger you seriously think that we are immigrants from the websites that you yourself claim to have come from back in february? I've been on this website for 20 years, and I will be here long after you have hanged yourself in your parents basement.
>>98025596Well, it's because you take it out of /osrg/. Like, this isn't the /osrg/ thread. You even do this shit in /nsrg/. There's nowhere you and your obnoxious clique don't come to make a mess.
>>98025080>You guys were banned from Reddit for brigading.Good, being banned from that website is a badge of honor, considering that the osr subreddit there is an LGBT hug box echo chamber. I would rather play ACKS with literal Nazis than ever touch reddit.
>>98025606Being banned from Reddit for brigading is not a badge of honor, it means you were so desperate for updoots that you broke sitewide rules to get more of them.
>>98025603>Nooooooo you can't post things I don't waaaaantKek, make me, faggot
>>98025349Oh yeah, they definitely existed, but you just can't find them. They just vanished forever. Weird.
>>98025720NTA, but I provided one in this thread and it was rejected as it didn't fit the osrg troll narrative. It's pointless to provide y'all with anything. You find a reason to reject it
>>98025729I'm afraid in the world of reality, claims don't equal proof. You have to engage with it. If people found your proof wanting (you still haven't linked to it), perhaps it was in fact wanting.I mean, you regularly reject anything that doesn't fit your narrative via a sweeping and unfounded claim (it's just a screenshot; it's just a blog) as if the very nature of something meant it could be automatically rejected without anything as tedious as an argument or point-counterpoint process, so I have to assume this is actually just projection again unless you actually link to something concrete.
>>98025743Reminder that a link he posted was super totes valid but the comment *in his very own link* that showed it was a complete shit argument, complete with admission by the reddit moderator, was not valid because it was just reddit. This is the kind of honest joe good-faith actor that people are dealing with here.
>>98025497>the subsystems are compatible >but they're totallllllly interchangeable lmao
>>98025513That's great, what the fuck does it have to do with /osrg/?
>>98025527He didn't deny anything he said that Wikipedia can be edited by anybody, and then asked you if there was any evidence of anybody even actually playing for Gold and GloryIlliterate fucking moron
>>98025603These threads are clearly created by you out of your butt hurt, in an attempt to usurp osrg. Do you think that if you just play dumb and scream and throw a tantrum for long enough that the mods will eventually give you what you want? The reason they are letting us do this, is they are tired of your shit and they are letting us teach you a lesson. You are private pyle and this is your blanket party.
>>98025608I have never had an account on that website, but anybody that gets spanned from that dog shit echo chamber absolutely has a badge of honor in my book. Like I said, I would rather play myfarog with varg and literal nazis, then ever give a fuck about what Reddit considers to be osr or not
>>98023727I like them because I like stories about humans using wit and cunning to overcome impossible odds, and I hate super hero stories where they punch each other and go pew pew with zappy lazer powers. I especially hate the super hero stories where everything is reskinned to be a fantasy story about super fantasy races going pew pew with zappy lighting spells.I also like stories where magic feels weird and alive and metaphorical and a stand-in for the human spirit as opposed to red/blue/yellow lasers where if you match up with the proper enemy you do 200% damage to X by Y squares and force movement by Z amount of squares perpendicular to the character.I also like humanocentric stories and hate stories about danger skins walking around.I can't wait to actually start reading this thread now that I've posted and seeing all the good faith, genuine conversations that were not immediately bogged down by poopdick schizos.
>>98025239You missed and raped your own ass.
>>98025975>I also like stories where magic feels weird and alive and metaphorical and a stand-in for the human spiritWhere does Tensor's Floating Disc, a spell specifically made just to haul loot out of a dungeon, fit into that?
>>98024496Probably the most shocking part of this entire thread.
>>98024496Good design? Yes. It is a clear example of a prototypical "nega-dungeon".It is not meant for normal campaign play, and if you think it is, then you are even stupider than expected.
>>98025989Good thing I'm standing in front of a mirror and you're behind me, because you're actually fucking me in the ass and giving me a reach around, 2e isn't osr btw
>>98026129This is one of the dumbest things I've heard in a thread filled with some of the dumbest trolls.It's not a nega-dungeon. It just sucked so bad that it inspired the idea of a nega-dungeon, which may be the absolute worst idea any person ever came up with, and a firm reason to kick them and anyone who ever plans on using a nega-dungeon right in the that space between the balls and ass so their pelvis cracks.The Tomb of Horrors, as bad as it is, is still nowhere near as gay as an actual nega-dungeon because it was only designed to be a challenge, but by an incompetent designer. A real nega-dungeon is deliberately designed to a giant waste of time that makes you regret journeying into it while punishing the assumption you're supposed to clear it.
>>98025298>The old heads have hated 2eSome old heads, not all. As someone who was playing since the early 80s, I might count as an old head. I didn't hate it and neither did my friends, including those who were playing in the 70s.
>>98025943nta but I can tell you G&G was on the /osrg/ list of OSR games for a long long time.
how long are you going to keep going with these threads
>>98026311Not anymore, bozo
>>98026190You sound like a salty nogames faggot.>It wasn't prototypical, it was just the prototype!You retarded?>Incompetent designer Ah, so you're in the osr thread to cry that Gary was a chud, got it
>>98025247AD&D 1 was written with a dogmatically proscriptivist design. That is, with the idea that there is one way to play it and the rules cover all situations, effetctively making a tourneyfag D&D. 2e doesn't and encourages DMs to interpret the rules as they will, which is what the earlier games did. This is the heart of the difference between these editions and why certain threads keep getting jumped if they so much as mention 2e and OSR in the same breath.
>>98026329Simple, until you finally fuck off, out of here, out of /osrg/, out of /tg/ as a whole. Until you fuck off and stop hijacking the /osrg/ OP, stop screaming MUH 2E, and trying to gatekeep it for your own personal agenda, then these threads will keep being made.
>>98026360>>98026567what inspires a nogames like you to get so angry about a not-genre of "games" based on a meaningless marketing label and a bunch of shitty rules that don't work and make no sense?
>>98026576>appeal to trivialityWhy do (you) care then? If it's so trivial, then you shouldn't care.
>>98026578>hallucinating there's no appeal to triviality here. go get an electroshock therapy so you'll be hopefully cured out of your schizophrenia.
>>98026578>appeal to trivialityFishfag is a subhuman trying to pass as a midwit
>>98026578>appeal to trivialityStop using words you don't understand, fishfag
>Fishfag thinks he can troll people by deriding Gygax and hating the Tomb of HorrorsKek, his thought processes are so retarded, in the literal sense that he thinks like a little kid. "The OSR loves Gygax and classic modules! That means if I talk shit about him and a classic module, they're get upset and be permanently BTFO!" It's like witnessing the battle techniques of a four-year-old.
>>98026083IKR? The trolling by the osrg is expected, but the defense of the ToH is wild.>>98026129It's a bad design. Being made for tournament play does not change that.>>98026301Fair enough, I was using that term as a set type. When I got into d&d in the early 90s ,I ran into those a bit. But I also had older players who were chill about it. Some of those guys played 2e, others did not .
>>98026494NTA, but IIRC, one of the issues with 1e was, no one played it one way and there where do many unclear rules issues it kinda splintered the groups. Do it failed at being the "one way to play"
>>98027000The funny thing is Gygax really wanted it to be a uniform game, he just completely failed at making it one.This was particularly noticeable during tournaments, which Gygax thought were going to always be a really big deal for D&D, like how tournaments were a big deal for war games.But, even with trained DMs, and a further team of judges acting as final interpreters, there still was too much variance and tournaments never became more than a curiosity at conventions.
>>98027134 It often feels to me that he didn't actually understand his own game often enough. He made a thing, and he thought it would be used one way And folks used it differently then he intended
>he's now spooling out his old rote "Gygax was a stupid tournamentfag" pasta that he's already posted dozens of timeskek, the predictabilitybut sure yeah, I bet you wanted a space for sincere discussions and aren't just trying to derail /osrg/ out of assrage right?
>>98026567I meant that towards OP and whoever is making all of these not-/osrg/ threads.
>>98027365ooooh, good.
>>98026131Is what what you tell yourself as your tiny dick somehow finds its way into your faggot ass?
>>98027674For real though, how come you only ever engage via scatological invective? Are you even capable of writing a post about your own interests and preferences?
