Work in Progress, End of the Weekend Edition>Full-on /WIP/ OP Links Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/BE42AEcD>WIP Tutorial Images Megahttps://mega.nz/#F!TvQFCaLb!w8WZKCcOsTRasxrI0JWezw>Saint Duncan's "Six Things I Wish I Knew When I Started Painting"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufP8ka3KGno>Saint Duncan also explains thinning your paintshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxWgsqSf74s>Paint thinning 102https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBDVPoNXyVI>4 EASY Chipping Tricks For Beginnershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku4comhKHJM>Decal Like a Prohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYKLiEW7p9c>How to Edge Highlighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoRbYuAfbEk>How to use contrast style paintshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhholrozptI>How to Paint with Tremorshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqp76vAJu9g>Airbrush Priming and Thinninghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkntrSBvXxEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGjBQzoukFghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00JVUxABe44https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEqT_R41JX8>Who's Johnny, she'd say, and smile in her special wayhttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Johnny>Previous Threads:>>98053942>>98043991>>98033295
First down
>>98066668
think I'm calling this guy mostly done. I'll get the control panel and some more weathering on the turret to finish
>>98066802
>>98066736Looking good anon, nicely done.Fridge skelly has a new friend!
>>98066854Er ist auferstanden!
>>98066725Unce unce unce
Goblin spinny
>>98066854Now neither of them will be virgins
>>98066802>>98066807The autist in me wants the tracks to be dirtier but this looks really nice, anon
>>98066959thanks man. I'm pushing to get it and this thing done by tues for this weeks campaign game in the ash wastes
>>98066902NMM seems so daunting to me. Great jorb gob anon
I need 11th ed rules to come out so I can print my terrain already.
>>98067040why follow templates? you can just do whatever you want
>>98067056Of course, but I would like to have at least one set of terrain to match the templates.
Made some test minis for the badab war seccessionists
Working on my Death Guard for a change of pace. Pretty happy with the Axe's gradient but I still gotta tidy up those hand tho.
I dont want to buy 3 different shades of every color.Can I just add a drop of white/black to whatever color I am using
>>98067040Paypiggy whale.GW laughs at skidmarks like you who actually move on to newest edition when they release it.
>>98067093Yes, but flesh tone and brown usually give better results used the same way.
>>98067080paintjobs look great but man those fummelfinger sculpts are bad >>98067096trying too hard, stick to /v/ and /40kg/
>>98067100Thank you
>>98067104Uh buddy? It's dumbasses who buy newest GW thing that belong in 40kg
>>98067123It's time to go back.
>>98067123away with you
/wip/, is there a difference at all between sandpapers sold as 'hobby' sandpaper and your average cheap pack sold at your local hardware store?Like a difference between #600 grit sandpaper from Home Depot and that special #600 plasticmodelkitsRus™ sandpaper?Thanks for any responses and imputs, /wip/
Noop question: does the paint retarder contribute to paint thinning?
>>98067277They make the paint stay wet for longer, slowing down the evaporation.
>>98067262no there is zero difference in normal sandpaper of X grit sandpaper at Y store. what I would recommend is hobby specific sanding sticks though, as they're meant for getting into tight spots we frequently need.
>>98067290I don't know about how japan does it but some random brands of sanding sticks/pads have been wildly inconsistent in my experience.
>>98067277>>98067285I mean, when the color recipe is 2 part grey : 1 part black : 1 part water for example, will adding the retarder have effect on this ratio?
>>98067305you should be mixing everything with set ratios first and then adding reducer as necessary to obtain the desired consistency.
Done with my dude
Early start of a space marine 2 diorama, eventually this will (hopefully) be these two on top of a pile of dead tyranids.Currently partway through the white armour. Both it and the space wolf armour are a pain in different ways, the white armour is tough to glaze, the space wolf russ grey base coat has awful coverage (I know it's a layer paint but apparently that's the eavy metal starting point, albeit I suspect they airbrush it on.).
>>98067481nice stripes
Honk honkIdk if I'm gonna continue with this, just 1 session practice
>>98067481DIG
>>98066902>want to post a spinny>smallest I can get the file is 6mbwish they'd increase the limit to 10mb or something
>>98067936what filetype and resolution are you using?
>>98066686Second bladeguard vet done relatively quick and simple
>>98067992webm converted from mp4>>98068028good shit as per usual, anon
>>98067299>>98067290Haven't had great luck finding goof sanding sticks where I am. What is the go-to sanding stick for people? Maybe I'll order some in.
>>98067936i have done like three (3) spinnies but i use avidemux for cropping into a webm and then vidcoder to reduce the size because you can set a target mb
>>98068076At which point in the process is audio excluded (not just muted)? I'm sure that saves a bit.
>>98068028lovely stuffI always like how the cross over the helmet looks, ties the whole thing in together
>>98068060unironically, you can just use sandpaper 400 grit should be fine for warhammerget some of the blank(?) sticks to stick the paper to
>>98068081on avidemux you can deslect the audio track
>>98068060premade sticks are a memeget whatever piece of plastic, metal or wood and do this >>98068100as a bonus you can make them in whatever shape or form you want, even rounded or eliptical
>>98068100Thanks anonYeah, I use normal sandpaper now and it's effective enough. I wrap it around a file or fold it over so that it is rigid enough to use. But I had heard good things about sanding sticks and wanted to try them, but none of the ones I could find here worked nicely, they're some cheapo brand.
>>98068105Nice, thanks
>>98067936I'd check your resolution and fps. No need to go over 30fps, you might be recording/encoding it at 60
>>98067615Really like the model, where is that from?
Kino's back on the menu boyz
Bretonnia marches to war.
>>98068248
>>98068170It's from Arnau Miniatures
Any good nmm chrome tutorials? I think the pain boy model would look sick with a chromed out hand
>>98068253Thanks! Great paintjob too, especially around the eye area
>>98068248>>98068249I kneel.... most ecxellent
>>98068248>>98068249i like it gz always felt bad for bretonnia players when their army was killed
>>98067137>>98067141GW isn't going to give you free shit for sucking them off here.
>>98068331>muh gwYes, I'm sure /40kg/ would love to talk about it
>>98068341You mean your precious GW.
>>98068036>>98068095Thanks ladsyeah the cross on the helmet also provide nice contrast and it's a good way to prevent black helmets from getting lost within that black armour visually speaking>>98068060>>98068100Can confirm 400 grit works perfectly for usual mold lines cleaning, you can go higher if you really want a smooth finish after using the 400. Although if you start doing conversions, kitbashing etc having a lower grit and some basic metal files helps a lotI bought a pack with some sandpaper sheets of different grit for dirt cheap long ago, I just cut small stripes from them and use those for precision work etc
>>98068573Thanks anonI use 800-1200 grit for my usual cleanup, and it takes a while. I have some files, buy they're on the other end of the spectrum. Sounds like I need some 400-600 grit to serve as the workhorses. I had thought that'd be too rough, but good to hear that it works, so thanks!
>>98068385Nta but lol, imagine trying to stir up drama/anger in /wip/. Relax mate, grab a mini and push some pigment around, there's no need for that here.
>>98068591I use 800-1200 for Gunpla, which requires a smoother finish because those kits are either left unpainted or painted with lacquers, which show a large amount of underlying surface detail when dry. You don't need that smooth of a finish for Warhammer, since you'll be completely painting them with matte/satin acrylics, and probably won't be using lacquers. Defo save yourself some time and use 400.
AK ultra matte is turning completely glossy after ~5 years. https://www.reddit.com/r/minipainting/comments/1tgltis/psa_ak_interactive_ultra_matte_can_turn_glossy/
>>98068613Good to know! I do have some gunpla kits lying about. To be honest, I want to prime and paint them afterwards as vehicle practice. Not much experience with larger models.
>>98068621Woah, that's wild. Time for another coat?
>>98068621Oh, interesting. I've just started using this stuff. I'll have to read that thread.
>>98068621Someone in that thread recommended using a mix of ak ultra matte with vallejo matte. Might try that myself
>>98068621If stored somewhere with strong humidity/moisture, it can fuck with varnishes. Tho again, this is pretty strange. I have models that are ~1 year old with AK ultra matte and they don't show any trouble so far. Maybe I should experiment more with VMS Flat, after all.
>>98068591Yeah 400 will work perfectly fine as your workhorse and will save you a lot of time on the usual clean up
I use St. Duncan's 5050 Citadel contrast med and ak ultramatte, no gloss underneath. No problems so far, but it's been less than a year. Hopefully no trouble down the line.
>>98067290Thanks for the response, anonHave a wip of a recently assembled Black Mamba from Heavy Gear, Long Fang variantI've been thinking about sanding sponges as well, Ill go ahead and grab some of those too as for the sandpaper Ill swing by my hardware store. I've been just scraping moldlines when I can using the xacto and wanted to branch out my options to see what suits me better
>>98068621it's important to point out that this guy is using matt on top of a gloss varnish, so it's less 'matt turns gloss' and more 'matt stops working'it's fucked up either way but the difference may not be so bad if you haven't glossed first
Has anyone tried dreadful visage over a gold paint?
>>98068621I PAINT IN OILS AND MOST OF MY COMMISSIONS ARE VARNISHED WITH THIS STUFF AAAAAAAAI apply a bunch of layers so hopefuly it will be fine. Here's a frog also
>>98068770Gloss > oils > matte is the most common workflow. The fact that there are single digits people with a similar issue, I wouldn't worry much.
>>98068604>I NEED new terrain that exactly matches GW's commissariat dictated layoutsWho's trying?
>>98068828Nta but literally nobody said that lmao, you're trying too hard buddy. Go try that in /40kg/, you'll definitely get a couple retards riled up, especially if you samefag a bit
My second mini ever, give me advice (I didn't do the things I don't have paint for, like the gun and holster). I'm thinking I should have used a darker blue instead of baby blue, a more copper-y color for the armor? And how the fuck do I do the face, just brushing flesh tone over it looks horrible.
>>98068862What kind of paints did you use? House? Boat? Car?
>>98068862Check the OP stickies for lots of helpful guides, watch some Duncan Rhodes videos, and for god's sake, thin your damn paints.
>>98068862>And how the fuck do I do the face, just brushing flesh tone over it looks horrible.Your paint is too thick. Also, basecoat the skin with a red-brown, pink, or magenta, then skin tone paint
i have been tilling soil and planting since sunrise and now im so drunk i cannot paint anymore, not the normal drunk i usually paint but really wastedt. not craft paint anon
>>98068621I'm not sure about the alternatives. There's Vallejo ultra matte, which is a lot less flat, so no. There's also VMS, which has a REALLY beautiful finish, but bruh, it's probably the ficklest varnish to apply, it has to be PERFECT otherwise you are getting speckling/frosting. I'm thinking about checking out MIG ultra matte, it seems to be quite popular.
>>98068887>>98068862
>>98068904Saw Vince's recipe recommended in the Reddit post. 75% ak ultramatte, 25% satin
>>98068862
>>98068912That one is not flat enough for larger models, it produces pretty much Vallejo ultra matte result. Man, I wish I wasn't too retarded for VMS Flat.
>>98068912I use a 1:1 mix of AK Matte and Satin for literally everything and it always looks fine
Can i do glow effect with craft paint?
>>98068957yes
>>98068957No, it creates mustard sperg.
>>98068963But my red, yellow, orange and white craft paints look very dull compare to these hobby paints on Youtube
>>98068957As far as airbrushing goes, you want high pigment density. Craft paints are literally the opposite of that. Inks and contrast paints work really well though.
>>98068993NTA but I just got into inks these past couple months. I love 'em. I might fuck with the energy color of my necrons just so I can have an excuse to use phthalocyanine green on more models.
Found this on sale for 20 at a hobby store. I figured it was worth a shot, i've been experimenting with oil washes on my mechs recently. Vs 7$ a tube for ak or abtelung at my lfgs i figured this will probably do just as well and I have so many colors to choose from nowAnyone got tips on oils? I havent been varnishing before applying and its mostly been ok
>>98069039>Anyone got tips on oils?Leave the bit of paint you're going to use on a piece of cardboard for 15-30 mins before using it, the cardboard will absorb some of the oils and give you a shorter drying time.Be extremely gentle when rubbing off excess paint after the wash. Like, don't really apply any kind of pressure. Being gentle is much more important than having layers of varnish underneath or whatever, in my experience.
>>98068922>Man, I wish I wasn't too retarded for VMS Flat.what does this even mean
>>98069083https://www.vms-supplies.com/vms-varnish-hd
>>98068835see >>98067040Learn to read English, mutt.
>>98069104yes it is a varnish, how can you be too retarded about it?
Odd question but - which color, aside from white, would work best with ultramarine as primary?
>>98069177redorangepurplegreen
I need your expertise, /wip/.I didnt have time to paint, but I've been mulling on the color of the solitaire up there. I want him to look different than the other harlequins, but I'm unsure how to paint him, considering how the frame and background will be.Any ideas.
Finally used some bits from my evergrowing pile
>>98069186Little contrasting but I get the idea. Thanks, doc.
>>98069206Silver for the mask. Dark purple for the outside of the cloak, a burgundy color for the inside. Do a diamond patter on his bent leg there, in the colors of the troupe he is fighting with. Otherwise do the diamond pattern in red and blue.
>>98069177White is not a color, nor is grey or black. They go with everything.You can either go for contrast by going to the opposite end of the color wheel with something like orange, or you can go for harmony by picking an adjacent color like purple or green.
>>98069338Interesting. Will take it into note. He wont have a mask though, I left his head empty and paint the hole pitch black
>>98069172I'm the original anon you were responding to. I either got a bad batch, or it requires a very precise application which I'm seemingly unable to do consistently.
>>98069375Bait.
>>98069457retard
Should I just buy a terrain paste, or is it really just mix mod podge + plaster + dirt/sand to make my own terrain?
>>98069570What are you trying to achieve in terms of looks?
>>98069570Watered down pva and toilet paper
>>98069602I just need some dirt and mud for small (5x5) dioramas as a general ground cover. Not using it for individual model basing.>>98069684I will look into this as well, thank you
>>98069776>I just need some dirt and mud for small (5x5) dioramas as a general ground cover.If you want top of the line real-like mud for dioramas, I recommend VMS Smart Mud. Very realistic texture straight after application, and you can shape it pretty well in case you need something like tank track marks and such, because, compared to texture pastes, it comes a lot drier (though you can dillute it). Otherwise the usual AK Dark Earth is a classic. Apply, sprinkle with a mix of leaves/grass/etc. and you are halfway done.
how often do you paint while drunk and do you paint better or worse while inebriated
>>98070174I don't drink alcohol at all and neither should you.
>make big diorama for my entire army>place all my dudes in the spots I want em in>cut circles out of of the diorama for bases>now my army has matching bases for playing with, but also diorama terrain for displaywhy shouldn't I do this?
>>98070275You should, and ideally everyone would, but it's time consuming and takes up a lot of space.
Got me super herald painted. All that effort on the bearer for him to be totalled obscurred
>>98069206Just do this thing I saw on /40kg/
>>98070275Is this some kind of trick question?
>>98070470No, I'm just asking
>>98070388wtf how does he even do that? I'm legit considering buying a second solitaire mini to do that effect
>>98070597You'll need more than a second one for this I'm afraid.
>>98070388One of the most beautiful things I've ever seen on this site
finished up the escher gang I've been posting here
>>98070653Looking tasty, great work on the all the skin
>>98066902low quality Stegadon spinny
>>98070597The holographic effect is 3d printed iirc
>>98069130NTA but don't be silly, the guy is going to make terrain either way, because we like making stuff here. Wanting to know if the specifications will change in an upcoming edition so that they can plan around it is a perfectly reasonable thing to want and does not mean the person is a paypig, or even that they're planning to buy anything.
>>98070653Love seeing it all come together anon, you did a great job
>>98070352You know he's fully painted.God knows he's fully painted. He knows he's fully painted.
Any love for the old boxnaughts?
>>98070836Yes. That is how they're supposed to look. Not like the modern version.
>>98070679Very nice dino there anon. I made an attempt at jungle bases early on when I was painting up some skinks and by god did they come out looking like shit.One of these days I should really paint the bastilodon I have
>>98070836Het doostroyer I like that look, yeah.
>>98070836I have 3 of the BA version I grabbed before the purge of all the actually good BA kits. These and Contemptor are peak Dread design. I don't much care for the newer ones.
Frogge
>>98067481this pleases malal
>>98070864Thank you anon! It was mentioned here in previous threads but adding some tropical plants/foliage to your bases really helps.>bastiladonYou definitely should, it's a really nice model despite its age. I'll be getting it eventually but I think I want to paint a Slann first.
>>98070388for me, it's this teleporting necron by el miniturista
I think she's done for tomorrow. was a fun project
Been working on a chaos space marine with a flamer. Not very happy with how I did the canisters, but it looks nice enough from a distance. Once he's done being varnished I'll see what I can do about making the barrel of his flamer look a little broiled.
>>98071236Each and every picture you post of your Lizards makes me want to start them as an army. Love your work!
>>98070653I like has the plasma gun turned out
>>98071409at the very least, the photo quality looks like a 90s white dwarf
>>98071423I aim to please.
>>98069684>>98069776This is the pva/toilet paper texture.Just place a single sheet on whatever you want to texture then brush on the watered down glue to plaster it in place, it will wrinkle on it's own as it dries.Great way to harden and texture styrofoam in particular but works on anything.
Attempted basing scheme, but I'm not super fond of it
anyone know a good "mesa" colored ground recipe?
Oh yeah, it’s all coming together.
Just going to wait for all the paint to dry and put it all together tomorrow.
>>98069684>Watered down pva and toilet paperThe "perlin noise" of the miniature world.
I forgot how tedious gunpla stuff is. It's fine, I still have 4 days left. First rust pass done. It's a bit splotchy and will do some more intentional work after the black accent parts are also done and it's in fewer pieces.
>>98072054Except it's almost a lost secret now with everyone jumping to premade and printed terrain, glued sand is still ubiquitous but the use of shit tickets is seemingly grog territory.
Does this read as chrome in a desert?
>>98072353Yes, though you need to shade the crevices.
>>98072353Yeah, LGTM.I think the sky parts could maybe be brighter, or the spot reflections of the sun could be a bit more bloomed out, but I'm not sure about that unless I were to paint over it and test, just a thought.
>>98070836Looks dangerously cheesy. Definitely my favorite version of the model
>>98072367>>98072370Nice, thanks. I think I'll make the white parts a bit bigger then? But mostly in the middle of each panel, to sell the idea that it's glare cast by the sun.I was going to use an oil wash to recess shade, but I'm a little worried about it ruining the effect. It'll be fine, right?
>>98072378For HH3rd it is a bit dirty of a unit. BS5 and 14 shots is more than a little hurt.
>>98070836I'm not a huge fan of space marines but I love these boxy dudesI want to paint one up as a blood angel
>>98071407That's really cool
>>98066686Working on getting my kriegers to look like Steel Legion. Two years out for official models so I'm making do with what I have.
>>98071407Nice. I like how you integrated the controls and electronics into the actual design.If I make an overly elaborate secret santa box again this year and don't kill myself before then, some kind of mechanical thing would be a neat gimmick for the year.
>>98070836Luv me Boxnought
>>98072353Turned out really good anon
>>98070653Beautiful work anon
>>98070836Hell yea, they're the greatest. The coverage of corvus black over white here made me decide to reprime black ..
>>98072585Did you paint this by inhaling too much airbrush overspray and sneezing on it?
>>98072601I tried priming white for the first time and instantly regretted it lol :'(. Back to the drybrushing over black dog house with my tail between my legs I go...
>>98072610Oh yeah I notice the culprit in the background now like a movie crime scene photo.
>>98072612haha Maybe I should construct a jail cell for the primer can..
>>98072353Now THAT'S Heavy Metal
cant believe we live in a time where someone posts a model with obvious stair stepping that's primed shittily with rustoleum and they DONT get bullied
>>98072653I LITERALLY BULLIED HIM AS THE FIRST REPLY AFTER HE POSTED IT WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?!
>>98072653w-whats wrong with rustoleum i use it
>>98072653Stair stepping?
>>98072658poorfag behavior that looks mediocre at best, but usually just looks like shit.
>>98072661is it better or worse than maston
>>98072659you see the print lines on the model's shoulder? that's called "stair stepping" it means he's using a low-resolution printer and/or didnt antialias his model when slicing it, its so bad there it doesnt even look like he used anything newer than a mars 3 to the anon who's work that is i just ask that you get a better printer and/or antialias your models, and stop using cheapo dogshit for primer, it'll make your priming look way less bad if you do both of these things
>>98072668looks like maston is similar to it but im not a euro
>>98072669It's a knockoff mars 2 i got in like 2019. I'm not fighting in the big leagues of /wip/ I'm in the poorhammer league and I'm fine with that. I might try some surface filler on it though, the stepping is pretty ugly.
>wanted to paint for 2 hours or so>have work I need to do before tomorrow>Almost finished, but it's 3:30am and I probably should just go to bed and be responsibleIt's gonna be hard, but I think that's the only smart thing to do.
>>98071413I appreciate that, anon! Those lizards are REALLY fun to paint so it's an easy recommend from me honestly.>>98071407Extremely cool and I think you've painted it really well, too.>>98071891Looks like some nice grasslands to me honestly.>>98072353I think it does, good job!
>>98072749ok i hit it with some Mr Hobby surfacer and flooded the affected panels with superglue hope this works coos I'm hesitant to deal with the mess of filling and sanding
>>98072585the white looks fine though and trying to paint white over black is going to be even harder.
>>98072834I know, I had planned on using that white for an undercoat for really bright red trim. It just dawned on me that I'm way too time-poor and lazy for multiple layers of base coats, and the scheme has far more black than trim. Just gonna grissaile it (slap-cope*) picrel the scheme:
>>98072810>I appreciate that, anon! Those lizards are REALLY fun to paint so it's an easy recommend from me honestly.Do you also happen to be the Thousand Sons poster? If so, I ended up with Tsons in part because of your posts in /40kg/.
>>98072653as long as its just the PRIMER and not the 2x "paint + primer" there is nothing wrong with Rustoleum. I would use it over Vallejo airbrush acrylic primer if I didn't have access to enamel primers anymore.
>>98072857>not the 2x "paint + primer"..What's wrong with that? I've always used it and never had any adhesion problems on metal, resin or plastic. As long as you varnish as you go / as a final step it shouldn't matter as long as the paint stays on while working on the model, no?
>>98072862I avoid the "paint + primer" as I find it to be a thicker coat and it sometime chokes fine detail. I have a can kicking around in my kit that I use on FDM terrain prints to flood the layer lines.
what I prefer
>>98072878versus
>>98072882That's what I picked up, hopefully it is a bit thick , because I don't mind if I lose some detail if it fills in some smaller layer lines, I'm painting mostly 3d printed stuff. Thanks for the information friend
Alright fellas,Im gonna order some stuff from AKAny suggestions on must have colours (be it regular acrylics or the new quick gen), pigments, texture paste, tools, whatever?
>>98073052As for the colours im gonna order (so you dont suggest them)Dead red AK11083Slime green AK11275Very dark brown AK11384 (thanks to the anon who recommended it as a rhinox hide replacement)Im all ears
