I have once again stolen you're Butte Hold.

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HONOR THE DRAGON!

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I wonder when we'll get a novel covering how Anastasia Kerensky brought the Exiled Wolves back into the fold. It seems like a fairly important event we just know nothing about.
They legit just say "they're back! Anastasia convinced 'em off screen!"
I quite like Anastasia Kerensky and found the Wolves-In-Exile more interesting than the Crusader Wolves so it's something I hope we'll get soon.

>>98306966
I wonder when we will get a novel covering the extinction of Clan Wolf to a viral pathogen gene-tailored to their bloodlines, courtesy of Clan Star Adder's bio-scholars.

>>98306982
>The Society Returned
This would please me.

>>98306985
A happy coincidence. I just want Clan Wolf to die off, along with their race traitor Dragoons, and never be referenced again.

>>98306913
Anyone who shits on the Rakshasa deserves to get raped to death by the tallest Davions.

>>98307003
Gooble Gobble One of Us

>>98307010
I was thinking more Snowed White and the Seven Dwarfs?

>>98307003
Rakshasa is a piece of shit though. We can't really argue that he's not, no matter how much we love our retarded son.

>>98307054
By what metric Sean?

>>98307054
It's a fine enough IS heavy, especially the later variants that don't just try to copy the Madcat, but it's never going to live down its reputation as the Temu Madcat.

>>98307066
But isn't that a testament to how Bullshit Clan Tech is?

If you were to redo the Tech Base system so it's not just Inner Sphere and Clan with a mixed setting for both, how would you do it, anons?

I'd lean for 5 options:
>Clan
>Inner Sphere
>Near Periphery
>Deep Periphery
>Mixed

Current major Periphiary powers like the Taurians, Canopus, and Marians are now counted as part of the Inner Sphere. Just to fuck over their pride and force new nations to be made in the new Periphery.

The main thing this would be for is to track when a given piece of technology reaches a region and is produced at a given standard. So Inner Sphere powers producing a Medium Laser at Clanspec levels would be "Medium Laser (3XXX Standard)". This year tagging would also allow for upgrades to stuff like having the Standard structure to be able to carry more armor or buffing both the damage and heat values of even basic AC/20s and such.

Mixed would be the free-for-all zone where everything of all areas is available.

What use is all this besides bloating the equipment list? Vibes of the mechs in later eras throwing around bigger damage numbers and handling more heat, reset the weapons rules creep from the sidegrades while not needing to come up with 60 something descriptors, and steadily nerfing the power of Double Heat Sinks.

Also you could turn Deep Periphery into eternal Third/Fourth Succession War levels of power with random glup shittos out there where they set new Intro boxes. And just like Mechwarrior 5 directs you closer to Terra to steadily ramp things up, so too does game complexity with the Intro/Standard/Advanced/Experimental being a second axis for all that. Thus, CGL no longer has to fuck with 3025 era lore and deals with the new Starter box having complex mechs issues.

Been up for long ass time so half this shit might be feverish ramblings. So try and beat these sleep deprived ramblings with how you'd do it.

>>98306993
Shitposting aside, did anyone, ever, liked the Wolfs or the Goons?
Maybe grogs that have been at this since the 90ies can enlighten me, but everyone seems to go from "can't wait for them to get killed off brutally" to "oh god more wolf spergery, how tiresome". I understand that the Goons were built like the Special Special Makes No Sense Original Clan Merc Company with Sean Connery, but at this point people seem to like more fucking Wayne Waco than the entirety of the Goons. Is the admission from CGL that they know everyone hates Alaric the first time they've admitted that people find them obnoxious?

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Step right up, step right up! Girls und Mech is still recruiting with 6 available slots. Take your pick of 4 factions; Marik, Liao, Kurita, & Mercenary. Then give us a name for your mechwarrior and roll up your newbie pilot for the fight with 4d6 to determine your stats, using this attached Random Experience Table. Just don't forget the -1 modifier to your G&P rolls. That's the rolls that get the -1, not the stat itself!
With pilot made, then you roll again, this time with 2d1000. The first is to determine your mech's weight class. Take your first roll and compare it to the chart on page 28 of the Random Assignment & Rarity Tables (RAT). If you somehow roll 1,000 on the first number, congrats! You may cheat and ignore the 2nd roll and just take your pick between an Annihilator and a Marauder II. (GL with this happening.) The second number is then going to determine your mech on your faction's 3039 chart.
At this point, you're done! The current roster is listed below. Don't worry about how the factions might look balance wise. I'll be doing a bit of that myself for setting up the battle. Just choose your favorite. Good luck with your rolls, and welcome to the fight Mechwarrior.
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Total BV: 8,996 (10/16 slots filled)
BVs by faction:
Marik: 2,781
Liao: 2,356
Kurita: 1,359
Mercs: 2,500

>SHD-2H, Morgan Munroe 4/5, House Marik (BV: 1,064)
>ON1-VA, Janusz Kotow 4/5. House Marik (BV: 1,328)
>LCT-1V, Igzael Antwerp-Jones 4/7, House Marik. (BV: 389)

>VLK-QA, Vladimir Ignatyev 6/7, House Liao (BV: 557)
>PXH-1, William McCormick 3/6, House Liao (BV: 1,208)
>WSP-1A, Eleanor Gale 2/4, House Liao. (BV: 591)

>LCT-1V, Ishtar Marik 4/6, House Kurita (BV: 410)
>BJ-1, Ignacio Nachomura 4/5, House Kurita (BV: 949)

>CRD-3R Crusader, Rebecca Buck, 4/6, Merc (BV: 1,251)
>PXH-1, Tetsuo Puentealto 3/5, Merc (BV: 1,249)
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(Original posts w/lore for reference here.)
>>98291722
>>98291749

>>98307300

Goons were all right in Wolves on the Border. But Wolves? Those fucking tools going about acting as somehow they were main characters when they'd done nothing to deserve that plot armour.
Sure, Hanse Davion literally started a Succession War as a wedding day joke, but at least did SOME basic good guy shit.

Wolves were the most sane of the lunatics running the asylum that was what Kerensky's dream of restoring his specific vision of the Star League That Has Never Been Tried turned into. A pack of furries who twisted everything he wished into a degenerate betrayal of what he'd wanted and meant for their own perverted ends, proving in the end that the Successor States were right, and there was no better way.

Why, the only reason we even got a second Star League in the first place was because the Clans were so abominably insane that the entire Inner Sphere, even the guys who had been at each others throats less than a decade before, and on a personal level too, all managed to finally find one single common ground they could all agree on: Fuck The Clans, and their fursona wearing, clone baby, wrongthinking, genetically inbred, emotionally stunted ways.
This is, to my knowledge the ONLY thing every single faction in the Inner Sphere, including Comstar, has ever actually agreed upon.

>>98307124

It's a testament to how bullshit the Mad Cat is in particular. Like, they didn't just try to make a Clan Mech knockoff, they tried to make a knockoff of THE Clan Mech. The definitive article. At some point, you've just got to be impressed in the brass balls of GM to even try that. Especially in 3055, less than what? A decade after the Helm Memory Core's been disseminating?
Hell, if Diverse Sunbeam hadn't gotten involved and ruined things as usual, then the Rak would have been actually a pretty decent Cavalry mech with good range bands and heat levels.

>>98307380
But people kind of like Clan Smoke Pitbull because they're written so incompetently that they end up endearingly retarded ("Jag Harder"). Did anyone, ever, liked the Wolves bar the developers?
Wolves on the Border was also 89: Goons are kinda okaysh in it (despite being Very Special) but it has been 30+ years of 'em gooning everywhere. The only ones that managed to fuck with them were the WoBbies, and that's because no one kept in check the writing during the Jihad era.

>>98307387
The Rak is a good mech. Its problem however is that it's not as good as a MadCat, it never will be, and it's impossible to not compare it to one.

I'm a new player (no games played) looking to introduce someone else.

I've painted up a Locust and a Wolverine in one colour scheme and a Commando and a Shadow Hawk in another.

Which would you give to the other player to try to make sure they have a good time?

>>98307417

Is ANY 75 tonner in the entire game, on any faction?

>>98307452
It's pretty hard to make a 75-tonner better than the Madcat, but most other mechs at least aren't specifically designed to be an IS knockoff of the Madcat, which makes it impossible to not compared it to the Madcat.

>>98307498

Yeah... then the clans tried to replace it with the Linebacker. Which does have some good variants of it's own (the D and it's four SSRM-6's spring to mind)... but come on. Maybe if The Society had come up with a Z variant I guess, but then again the Timber Wolf has a Z variant as well...

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>>98307413
I mean, I do, but that's because A) I'm a bad person and B) because if I must play a clan, I'm going to play the Lyran's pocket clan. But even I can admit that they've received way to many author hand jobs for way too long.

>>98307529
The Linebacker is fine, but it's not a Timby replacement. Its more of a close range brawler/skirmisher than the Timberwolf, which is more a long range brawler and skirmisher. It's also a pretty decent heavy BA carrier in some variants like the Prime and A.

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After months of noodling I'm finally committing to writing. What does /btg/ think of this as a main character mech?

Lore-wise the pilot scored a lucky cockpit kill on a Summoner D during Operation BULLDOG, only to get mangled himself during a mop up mission on Huntress. Ends up getting put back together by Blakists and sent as a manchurian candidate to the Marian Hegemony. Officially charged with setting up a local security force to guard their newly christened HPG, this quickly turns into classic Comstar shenanigans.

I'm also trying to make a scenario pack to go with this covering at least the largest battles. I've discovered playing the same battle a few times in a row in MegaMek and then picking out the most spectacular outcomes from those makes writing things much easier lol

>>98307438
I'd say probably let your friend play with the Wolverine and Locust
Reason for this being that the Shadow Hawk has to worry about minimum distance for its LRM, and if your friend is completely unaware of the game's rules and mechanics, best give them the mech that is simpler to use

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>>98307413
>and that's because no one kept in check the writing during the Jihad era.
Them getting nuked was already determined in the OG Dark Age. I remember there bring a Spirit Cat Dossier of some chick that went on vision quests in the radioactive ruins of Outreach to come back with answers and cancer.

Boy, it did feel good to watch the robes kick their teeth in, though. The only shame was the Goon invasion of Terra had retarded stuff like the author didn't know Mars was terraformed so kept writing about no air and red desert.

Rolled 5, 3, 5, 5 = 18 (4d6)

Rolling pilot Bob Denard for the Mercenary faction

>>98307719
i. Missmatched Jump Jets reeeeeeeeeeee
ii. Some Clan tech is fine for an OC, but pretty much all of the systems are Clan tech, which is pretty insane, especially for slumming it out in the periphery.
iii. way over sinked you can jump, fire all your lasers and ams and still not build heat. That's lk insane.
iv. why two AMS systems?

If I was going to tweak the mech, I'd keep the lasers and ams, but exchange the heatsinks and TC for Sphere variations. You'll probably have to drop the number of heatsinks down for space which will be compensated for by the heavier TC.

But that's me. Do whatever you want, I can't stop you.

Rolled 186, 396 = 582 (2d1000)

>>98307804
3/4, I'll take that.

>>98307814
I think he's set up to alpha his Rockets along with his Large Lasers, since that would be 40 Heat total.

>>98307300
From what I'm aware of about the time circa the Clans introduction, the Wolves weren't strictly liked, but of the invasion clans they were the least Clan-like of the Clans so they started as the most tolerated, with the majority of people who took up Clantech using them as a result.

This functionally made them the Protagonist of the Clans much like the Lyran Commonwealth/Federated Suns/Federated Commonwealth were the Protagonist of the Great Houses, and thereby all the consequences that came from that.

As for the Dragoons, they became the Protagonist of the Mercenaries to complete the triumverate due to them having a reason they could throw out to have any Mixed Tech, though there was competition in that role with the Gray Death Legion until The Dying Time in 2002 was forced through from the big Wizkids Timeskip from the FedCom Civil War to the 3130s and none of the Grey Death characters could live that long with no real successors setup in their books.

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>>98307438
Assuming you're playing introtech and that you only want to do 2 mechs vs 2 mechs (no cardboard standies), I like >>98307735 's advice. I would also recommend you buff your pilots to be 3/4 (veterans) instead of 4/5 (regulars) so you guys hit more of your shots. I could also recommend these era-appropriate variants if you want to venture out from stock designs. If the record sheets for them aren't in the box, you can just get them for free online from mekbay.com or other places

>Locust
LCT-1V (432 BV). The stock one comes with machine guns
LCT-1E (553 BV). This variant is slightly costlier but it switches the machine guns for more lasers

>Wolverine
WVR-6R (1101 BV). The stock one with 82% armor, an AC/5, a Medium Laser, and SRM6
WVR-6M (1291 BV). The nicer one with 91% armor. Replaces the AC/5 with a Large Laser, adds an extra Medium Laser and two heat sinks.

Assuming you go with the nicer variants and veteran pilots, this leaves your friend with 2434 BV (you don't have to do the math yourself, mekbay.com can do it for you)

>Commando
COM-2D (541 BV). The stock one with 72% armor and silly double-SRM-type config.
COM-7Y (684 BV). A better one with 90% armor, drops the SRM4 and instead packs 2 extra medium lasers.
COM-7Y2 "Blazing Inferno" (728 BV). Like the above, but drops the SRM6 too and packs moar lazor. Mind the heat.

>Shadow Hawk
SHD-2H (1064 BV).
SHD-2K (1147 BV). The knockoff Griffin variant. PPC and LRM5. Beware, if the enemy closes you will be at a disadvantage.

Again assuming you pick the pricy ones with veteran pilots, that leaves this side with 2475 BV, which is slightly higher than the other force but not by much. Roughly even.

>>98307829
It would be better IMO if they were sync'd (heh) up to the mediums, since they have similar range bands are both close range weapons. 16 doubles would let you fire either all the lasers or all the rockets and the mediums.

>>98307814
It's the entire loadout of a Summoner D, sans the MGs. The dual AMS is part of that equipment even if that is obviously not ideal. The whole point of the 'Mech is that it is vastly over-equipped for where it is being deployed while also looking like a standard Periphery shitbox.

>>98307829
This wasn't the goal but it is also correct. 60 rockets + two 10 point guns followed by crit seeking using the TarComp has successfully 1v1'd a wide variety of Clan assault 'Mechs.

>>98307363
I'm trying to figure out what I am supposed to do with rolling a 'Mech for this.

>>98307804

>>98307815

These are my rolls. I'm looking at the RAT page 28 and have no idea what I should be inputting from here

>>98307921
1d1000 to find which weight class you're rolling for, then scroll down to that table for the second 1d1000.

>>98307804
I almost didn't notice this since you didn't respond to the earlier post.
>>98307815
Not a 3/4. 4/5. I've got at least 2 Wasps, so the pilot & mech are approved.
>WSP-1A, Bob Denard 4/5, Merc (BV: 384)
Total BV: 9,380 (11/16 slots filled)
Mercs: 2,884
Linking back to here >>98307363 for easier updating later.

Am I missing something or at ACs literally worthless when LB-X autocannons are lighter, have more ammo options, and have a longer range?

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>>98307921
See my post here >>98307977
You rolled in the Light weight category and on the Mercs chart, that's a WASP. Your G&P rolls of 5&5 are before the -1, so they're actually 4&4, which makes the pilot a 4/5.

>>98307977
So I rolled 186 which I assume puts me on the Light category, except there isn't a table for Mercenaries to pick from so how does that work?

This seems extremely confusing and I somewhat regularly join in the /btg/ pickup games like this

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>>98307996
Mercs have a single RAT.

>>98307989
On introduction they were better, but with later rulebooks ACs got access to things like Precision Ammo and Caseless Ammo to bridge the gap. LB-X is better at fishing for crits, but ACs are better for making those holes.

>>98307989
>have more ammo options
You are in fact missing something, LBX (and ultra) autocannons can't use Precision or AP ammo. Considering AP and Precision both got huge buffs in the new Core Rules, LBX might actually be the worse option between the two, depending on your circumstances and point of view.

>>98307989
LBX only has two ammo options, regular ACs have a few that are good and another few that are gimmicks.

>>98307989
Tabletop wise LB-X 20 is just better than the standard in every way, 10 is generally better and the smaller caliber ones it gets narrower when comparing specialty ammo etc. LACs are also not bad.

In universe they keep getting made for the same reason revolvers in .38 special are still getting made. It's an anemic round in a complex, expensive style of gun that is completely outmoded in every possible way by modern standards but the tooling to make them already exists and enough people already have them for ammo to keep getting made.

I think UAC should have a different cluster bonus to represent a recoil.
UAC10 should gets +1 to cluster roll
UAC5 +2
UAC2 +3

What are some good Mauler, Akuma and Gunslinger variants?

>>98308241
I'll need to check what exactly the core rule changes are but I suspect the Akuma 2X is suddenly going to become quite good.
Mauler the 3R is nice if you like pelting people to death with clusters and it actually has armor which most Maulers don't.
Gunslinger is another I'll have to look in at the core rule changes but I suspect the 2ERD is going to be a good C3 master platform.

>>98308226
Making UACs worse, anon, please.

>>98308226
Are you fucking high dude?

>>98308226
You got this from HBS Battletech didn't you?

>>98308059
>>98308056
>>98308024
LBX are pretty good as they combine a good can opener with a good crit seeker, and the LBX20 hasn't stopped being the gun to use to fish for TACs.

>>98308309
>>98308328
It's a bonus to smaller calibres, what are you talking about. Only UAC20 doesn't get the buff.

>>98308056
>>98308024
>>98308011
I have literally never seen anyone use alternate ammos for ACs

>>98308408
>I have literally never played 3060's+
ftfy

Even outside AC's, just wait until you see some old COM-2D's loaded with tandem charges in a FCCW match.

>>98308408
Precision ammo makes jumping pulse boats seethe.

>>98308450
Especially when you pair it with a Targeting Computer!

what are the odds my single LGS in my small city plays a bit of battletech

>>98308408
I have got a friend who likes to use them constantly especially on Jagers.

>>98308539
Between 1 and 0.

>>98308539
Who gives a shit, if no one does then show up with a friend and demo it. Get people interested

Why do prone mechs get a penalty to gunnery? You'd think more stability would mean easier shots

>>98306966
I want to see this as well. A very major part of the lore, too major to just glance over.

Do you prefer having art on your record sheets or more tables?

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>>98308708
Art, but functional art. If it helps me identify my sheets quickly it's good for a table.

How should the Royal Hunchback have looked like, if there was one? 4/6 with Endo and Gauss? 5/8 with XL and AC20?

>>98308708
Art so I can quickly pick out the right sheet from the spread. We're lucky enough to have a location with so much space and so many folding tables that each game can have two for the mapsheets and one for record sheets, so being able to quickly pick out which sheet I'm looking for is better than having duplicate tables.

>>98308681
Mechs generally can't brace their weapons like a person with a rifle could. It'd be pretty awkward trying to brace most arm mounted weapons while prone, not to mention torso mounts. Some mechs could probably make it work, but the rules aren't that specific.
>>98308708
Art. I keep a printout of all the relevant tables on hand, so I don't really need it on every record sheet.

>>98308731
Is there a collection of sheets done in this style? This is nice

>>98308908
I made the Hammerhead one myself, but they're in the style of this guy's work; excuse the plebbit link:

https://www.reddit.com/r/battletech/comments/10k0roe/all_fancy_record_sheets_updated_to_thank_original/

>>98308942
Neat, thanks

What are some BT rules that in your experience commonly trip up newbies?

Be it from the intro stuff to advanced/experimental rulesets. Just weird shit that often requires a sit down or a little diagram

>Wolverine WVR-6M
>Griffin GRF-1N
>Thunderbolt TDR-5S
>Awesome AWS-8Q

All from AGOAC - how is this for a starting lance?

>>98309239
Not necessarily newbies, but I've seen a lot of people treat hit location the same as firing arcs, but they're not quite the same, especially as you get farther out from your target.

>>98309268
>no light

>>98309239
ECM is easiest to explain if you have access to a dry erase hex map that you can use to draw an outline.

Also measuring sticks. Even just a couple cut to 10 hexes in length is plenty. I'm aware that CBT is a hex based game but for pickup games with new players these are actually really helpful. I regularly see first time players make 1-2 hex errors in movement that put them at the wrong brackets and these help people visualize the distances better.

>>98309268
That's just pretty standard newbie stuff. You did pick a Marik Wolverine so there's that.

Depending on the type of mission, you might be disadvantaged if you gotta go somewhere fast. You only have two jump capable units which might leave the other two lagging behind in difficult terrain. But aside from specific scenarios it's very playable.

You might consider making your heavier mech (Awesome) be piloted by a veteran. That way it will be less prone to falling and being unable to get up, as well as hit more of those PPC shots. Remember that modifying pilot skill isn't free

Just make sure your opponent has a similar BV and you'll have a fun match.

>>98309268
Pretty good. I'm jealous if there is a new printing of that box that comes with a Griffin instead of the Shadow Hawk. Get good at heat management since all of those run warm, get used to fist fighting with the Griffin.

Would say use FWL themed colors if you aren't sure about factions and don't want to just freeball it.

How well does Alpha Strike Box terrain work in CBT? Are you better off with hex tokens?

>>98309380
Oh, I think the Griffin might have come with the starter box - there was a deal in 2019 when I got them.

>>98309345
Cheers for the advice anon.

>>98309325
Light mechs are bent.

Other than the Endo which tequored special zero g facility, were the lostechs especially difficult to (re)make? Or was it purely matter of don't have the instruction and don't know what to use?

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>>98309468
It's ok if you want to use minis only when playing, but I will say it is very very freeing when you realize you have literally any unit you want at your disposal by using simple unit tokens.

Curious about X mechs but you don't have them? Get the record sheet from mekbay.com or elsewhere, get something that works as a token (both players need to know what it's supposed to be, where it's facing, and whether it is standing up or not) and you're good to go.

If you wanna get fancier you can print a sheet of standies, get some cardstock, cut em up with scissors and paste them with a little glue, stand them up with some paper binder clips or something.

http://www.pryderockindustries.com/dl_boards.php#CTR
https://chtulhusworkshop.wordpress.com/2015/10/10/battletech-on-bottlecaps-battletech-on-a-budget-part-1-building-the-mechs/
https://battletech.com/forums/index.php/topic,53689.msg1237459.html#msg1237459

Here's an example of all you have access to when playing a basic 3025 introtech match (that's 310 canon mechs):

https://mekbay.com/?q=rules%3DIntroductory%20type%3DMek&filters=era:Late%20Succession%20War%20-%20Renaissance&expanded=true&sort=bv

I'm mulling over the IWM sale and it's struck me this might be a good time to start picking up Protomechs. I'm looking at Dark Age compatibility for Hell's Horses and Raven Alliance. Obviously they have their uniques. the Svartalfa and Hippogriff, but what would be some other Protos to pick up? Roc and Minotaur seem obviously, then there's also the Procyon Quad...

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>>98309555
Actually my bad I forgot a filter, it's 263 mechs for 3025 year limit

https://mekbay.com/?q=rules%3DIntroductory%20type%3DMek&filters=era:Late%20Succession%20War%20-%20Renaissance%7Cyear:2471-3025&expanded=true&sort=bv

Has there been any news regarding the Mercenaries box getting a reprint anytime soon? Or should I bite the bullet and buy one online that's quite a bit pricier?

>>98309585
Why would it get a reprint?
Clan Invasion was left to die and you think Mercs is gonna get a reprint?

>>98309589
>Why would it get a reprint?
No real reason besides a vague hope because I like the mechs in the box
Though this answers my question

>>98309598
They are currently packing up all the Clan Invasion mechs for sale in Force Packs after the Clan Invasion box was discontinued

They might do the same for the Mercs box mechs
So if all you want are the minis you probably don't need to buy the box

>>98307003
But in game and in lore the Rakshasa is uber-shite.

>The only shame was the Goon invasion of Terra had retarded stuff like the author didn't know Mars was terraformed so kept writing about no air and red desert.
Mar's terraforming broke down long before the Jihad and the world slowly returned to being the Red Planet, lorelet.

Wheel, track or hover; which one is generally more useful?

>>98309736
WoB fixed that, lorelet

>>98309736
>Mistaking Venus for Mars...

>>98309755
>>98309772
STARTED to fix that, but it wasn't completely undone by the time of the battle, lorelet.

>>98309777
Actually, that's a retcon made after the Battlecorps story fuckup, lorelett.

>>98309585

Frankly, I just want to know what happened to the Reaving box.
And on that note, I'm kind of confused as to why The Society never did anything with the Rabid Coyote, given how embedded they were with Clan Coyote and given how the thing was already an ATM boat, making a basic conversion relatively simple, and that they'd already made a non-Omni conversion for the Coyotes in the form of the Savage Coyote, it's kind of a real headscratcher for me that not only did they never make a Rabid Coyote Z, but that the official MUL doesn't even list the thing for them.

I literally just spent five minutes on MML with the Rabid Coyote 2 (the 6 ATM3 one) and came up with a hateful thing with three iATM6's, 5 tonnes of ammo, the ECM/Probe condensed into a single NOVA and the medium lasers replaced by improved Heavy Mediums, which I don't even need to finagle endo-steel slots about since the two crit holes from the 1 model's MPL's are still there.

Like it was so easy, so why didn't the Society think to do this?

>>98309910
You assume the Society were that well thought-out or developed. This is an error.

Battletech is like, the second most popular tabletop wargame in the US right?

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Took a gauss round to my Longbow's head.
Took a gauss round to my Atlas III's head.

>>98310335
Man the dice hate you anon.

>>98310335
Have your pilots eaten any particularly large magnets as of late?

>>98310398
At least one a piece.

>>98310265
>Age of Shitmar is #3.
Grim. People deserve the suffering they get. Surprised Star Wars: Legion still exists. I thought the company killed that game.

my first lance:
>shadowhawk A
>shadowhawk B
>vindicator
>griffin

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Finished my first-ever Battletech mini couple days ago. Pretty happy with it. I barely know anything about the Battletech universe, but I now the Lyrans use Atlases in their scout-lances and have lots of money, so I went with them.

Really love the Catapult. Loved it when I first saw it in Mechwarrior 4: Mercenaries and still love it today. Haven't come up with a name for the force yet, but I know I'll use a white tower as it's emblem.

I like the Hollanders :)

>>98310265
>>98310234
What surprises me is the huge power gap between #1 and #2 in terms of available money. GW is a monster while CGL seems like it's barely keeping its head above water. How is that possible when people seemingly really like the game?

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>>98310392
The shot that decapitated the Longbow fucking hit on boxcars, and I said, "well at least those are out of the way" followed immediatly by my opponent rolling the second set.
>MFW

>>98310450
I specially like how the LRM boxes are painted in alternating colors. Nicely done and cool white rook

Fag at my lgs was talking about bt when I walked in and mentioned in a rant he was going on to his group that apparently mechs can now run after their legs are blown off. Is there some new thing I missed or was he being schizo?

>>98310450
Wow for a first that's super work anon!

>>98310527
Schizo and retarded.

So I've been into BT for 30+ years, holy shit how did I not know about the Lightning? It's insane. Would like a quick refit with a normal HGR

>>98310554
>how did I not know about the Lightning
ilClan thing that only came out like two years ago.

>Also didn't know about it until I got one in a lot of recent metal about 6 months ago.

Rolled 4, 3, 1, 3 = 11 (4d6)

>>98307363
I'll get in on this.

Rolled 860, 6 = 866 (2d1000)

>>98310594
And the second roll.
Let's go with Marik
Pilot Name: Moriancumer

Rolled 513 (1d1000)

>>98310612
And one more roll.

Does anyone make mechbusters after the combine closed down their production lines?

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>>98310554
>>98310574
Which lightning?

I might have kindled an interest in the mechs with my younger nephew, but now I'm kinda guilty cause shit's expensive.

>>98310666
maybe 3D print your henchmen mechs

>>98310670
I have no access to anything like that. Maybe I'll see about buying a couple of mechs and see how it goes for now, can't go forcing my enthusiasm down his throat.

>>98310688
If you were smart you'd be starting him with nice looking standees

What's a good small scale dropship in current era? It's not that I hate the leopard, but everyone and their mother uses one. Are there any other readily available lance carriers?

>>98310688
Local libraries have them now

>>98310698
Broadsword. Anything else is special snowflake territory.

>>98310702
>sea fox product
I would literally rather die

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Rolled 1, 2, 3, 4 = 10 (4d6)

>>98307363
Stat rolling.

>>98310688
the cardboard prints are fine too
or even just sculpt a low-poly mech out of polymer clay and mount it on any convenient circular base

Rolled 353, 800 = 1153 (2d1000)

>>98310716
Going for Mercs
Shiloh Verkler: 5 gunnery, 6 piloting.

>>98310711
I guess you can also use an Aurora.

>>98310711

Then die

>>98310265
Warmachine clawing its way to #4 from literal extinction is Kell-tier asspull

>>98307363
Updating the list.
Total BV: 11,444 (13/16 slots filled)
BVs by faction:
Marik: 3,898
Liao: 2,356
Kurita: 1,359
Mercs: 3,831

>SHD-2H, Morgan Munroe 4/5, House Marik (BV: 1,064)
>ON1-VA, Janusz Kotow 4/5. House Marik (BV: 1,328)
>LCT-1V, Igzael Antwerp-Jones 4/7, House Marik. (BV: 389)
>WHM-6R, Morian Cumer 5/6, House Marik (BV: 1,117)

>VLK-QA, Vladimir Ignatyev 6/7, House Liao (BV: 557)
>PXH-1, William McCormick 3/6, House Liao (BV: 1,208)
>WSP-1A, Eleanor Gale 2/4, House Liao. (BV: 591)

>LCT-1V, Ishtar Marik 4/6, House Kurita (BV: 410)
>BJ-1, Ignacio Nachomura 4/5, House Kurita (BV: 949)

>CRD-3R Crusader, Rebecca Buck, 4/6, Merc (BV: 1,251)
>PXH-1, Tetsuo Puentealto 3/5, Merc (BV: 1,249)
>WSP-1A, Bob Denard 4/5, Merc (BV: 384)
>WVR-6R, Shiloh Verkler 5/6, Merc (BV: 947)

>>98310594 >>98310612 >>98310616
A Marik with old Liao salvage. Ha! Wonder what the Capellans at the school will think of that. A Warhammer is great! A 5/6 pilot is not. Guess we'll see how that plays out.
>>98310730
5/6, not great, but Wolverine is solid.

3 slots remain. In every topic there's someone spamming Honor the Dragon, yet Kurita has only gotten 2 representatives so far. Liao is also on the lighter side with just 3. People can still choose whatever faction they like for rolling, but it'd be nice if it worked out to a 4 way split.

KIM-2D

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>>98310769
Clearly the Honor of The Coordinator demands he send less warriors, to make it a sporting event. To do any less would bring shame.

>>98310791
>Actual Leg loss reduces you to walk 1/run 2 movement, as well as a +4 PSR modifier
I assume this refers to losing a single leg, not both.

>>98310475
CGL is full of crooks and thieves.

>>98310769
I'd participate for Kurita but I don't want to go through learning how to use the dice roller again. Rolling a pilot for The Beer Run almost gave me an aneurysm.

>>98310429
Atomic Mass Games killed off the SW games with prepainted minis (X-Wing and Armada). Not surprised Armada had to go, it was always a niche game and the big prepainted miniature capital ships would not have been cheap to produce, but X-Wing used to be the #2 wargame after 40k for a while and had a big playerbase. I know people who still play it with the fanmade rules updates.

Rolled 1, 3, 4, 4 = 12 (4d6)

>>98310913
Type dice+4d6 into the Options field.
Type dice+2d1000 into the Options field.
Give a name and maybe some lore.
Consult charts.
This is just to demonstrate, it'll be really funny if I get straight 6s but I've had a pilot in for a while.

>>98310924
Everyone I knew who played (including me) tapped out when they wanted you to re-buy all the cards for ships you already owned. Except for one guy I know who would eat shit directly from Kathleen Kennedy's asshole if she revealed on twitter her next bowel movement was Star Wars canon.

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Painted my first mini, trying to figure out where to improve but also a color scheme.
Don't know when I should or how much wash I should use since it stains like a motherfucker.
Feels like I should fill in what panels I want to be different before the wash but then dry brushing doesn't work as well, do I just touch up with wash after dry brushing the base coat and adding detail?

Rolled 3, 1, 2, 6 = 12 (4d6)

>>98310938
I'm going to give this one try...

>>98310950
OK, so a 5/5 pilot. Outstanding...

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behold esteemed representatives of house steiner, our answer to the clan menace

Rolled 794 (1d1000)

Kill me

Rolled 399 (1d1000)

>>98310992

>>98310992
Stop spamming, cunt

>>98310996
I'm trying to roll dice.

>>98310976
You can't fool me
That's a custom Pack Hunter

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>>98310950
>>98310992
>>98310995
So if I read this right (I didn't) I've actually got a 6/6 pilot with a, uh, Warhammer?
>Cadet Ayumu "Banana Bread" Jones from New Samarkand in the Draconis Combine
>made it into the school via a clerical error after failing the entrance exam
>school kept her after discovering the mistake instead of admitting they made an error, claiming instead they factored in "the unquantifiable advantages of the neuro-atypical."
>only applied to the school because one of her friends did
>didn't even know it was a mech piloting school
>still isn't completely cognizant of her apparent career path

>>98310947
Just redo the base coat after washing, avoiding the deep zones that you actually want darker. The "coffee stains" can be undone with one or two layers of the color underneath.

>>98307363
Oh, shit, I think I dropped a pilot into one of these ages ago and totally forgot. Do you have archive links?

When will the tech heads figure out a way to resupply mid-battle so I can melt my RACs instead of having to throw hands once I'm spent?

>>98311218
Field reloading rules exist. They're risky, but reload by the ton. You can probably houserule certain units being able to reload quickly without risking blowing up.

>>98311110
This gave me cancer.

>>98311225
Was mostly talking about the lore, I can't remember much about field resupply.

How far can you go with 'My Star got this not-on-my-Clan-MUL-mech by winning a Trial with other Clan' excuse?

>>98311366
Same as the IS, I'd say - you get a maximum of one special boi per Star.
The Clans don't really need salvage to keep going, and free passage probably also includes the right to haul your broken mechs off.

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>>98311366
I usually rationalize it depending on how abundant the 'mech is in general, its weight class, and how much I like the 'mech
Why yes my Rasalhague Dominion force does have some Howlers in it

Though if we're talking Clan Invasion era (and more importantly if I'm playing an era specific game) then I'd be much harder pressed to deviate from what a Clan historically had access to
Maybe I'll give myself a single gimmie mech from another Clan via aforementioned Trial, but that's it

>>98311421
I recall that the invasion Clan RAT had examples of Clans running machines that were more or less exclusive to other Clans.

>>98310769
That merc lance is a not half bad introtech unseen lance.

I like Jenners.

>>98311421

Do you like the Howler? I don't think I've ever seen the claim made before.

>>98311493
On Kentares IV?

>>98311516
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>>98311493
basedbasedbasedbased

>>98311752
The thumbnail made its arms look giant speakers.

>>98311493
what other mechs do the "run very fast, shoot a lot, get very hot, jump/run behind terrain and hide" shtick? because i fucking love being annoying like that

>>98311764
Venom.

>>98311768
also DCMS i see. did they make a new panther-like for clan invasion era as well? since i remember they ran panthers+jenners i wonder if they also run something with venoms

>>98311787
Argument could be made regarding the Wolf Trap but that was never popular and was made to counter the FedCom Wolfhound rather than Clans.

>>98311809
Also forgot to add the Daiymo. Not exactly a Panther replacement exactly but can fit a similar role. Very decent 40 ton trooper.

>>98311824
>Daimyo
Ugly bastard, damn

>>98311110
You rolled a 399. I don't know how you came up with a Warhammer for that. I looked at regular 3039 Kurita, A-Rated 3039 Kurita, and even 3028 Kurita. None of them have the Warhammer at 399. What you actually rolled is an Ostroc. Well you're the 1st person to roll a mech I don't have so I'm going to give you some equivalent choices based on what's around that choice. Don't ask for a Dragon, I don't have one of those either. Yeah, I know, but my guy is always sold out of them and I'm not in a rush since the mech is ugly as sin.
Anyway, I will let you choose a 60 ton Kurita mech that I do have available. Your options are as follows:
Quickdraw; 4G, 4H, 5A. Any of those variants is fine.
The LNC25-02, Lancelot.
And I might as well, the RFL-3N, Rifleman. If you really want you can take that.
Get back to me with what mech you'd like out of those for Banana Bread.

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>>98311118
I do not have archive links to the old one. Yes, I did one of these once before. I was also in the process of setting up another one, but then life abruptly happened. By the time I would have been able to return to it and resume it, I wasn't sure if people would still care since so much time had passed. So for this one, I figured I'd just start over from scratch with it. The attached pic is what the rosters were shaping up to be for that game.

Rolled 3, 1, 4, 1 = 9 (4d6)

>>98307363
Liaobros rise up, let's get Wang Lee in.

>>98312361
Let him take a RFL-3C, it'll be really funny.

Rolled 275, 471 = 746 (2d1000)

>>98312436
>Green on 5/7
Wew, okay then that's alright, beginner's luck is what we're betting on.

>>98312453
>LCT-1V
Okay now I'm really hoping that all the Locust and Wasp pilots just fuck off to their own corner to have the lowest hit rate shootout of all time.

>>98311787
The Panther actually gets iterated on, unlike the Jenner which pretty much gets abandoned developmentally. So 10Ks and 10KAs.
They don't directly try to replace the panther until the early jihad with the Wight, and even then it's just a reworked panther chassis.

>>98312361
>Doesn't have a Dragon
This anon does not have honor!
Just use a beer bottle cap with an arrow and OSR-2C painted on it

>>98312451
Are you the anon that rolled up that character and are choosing the Rifleman? Or are you a different anon just trying to persuade him into it?

>>98310942
That's when I tapped out of X-Wing. Having to buy those force conversion packs was such a scam. So I just never did.
>>98310924
Still miss Armada. Still have those big ships sitting on my shelf. That was truly a great game.

>>98312677
If I say I'm that anon, will you make him take the 3C even if he shows up later complaining about it?

>>98310769
A slot is tentatively being held for retard-kun. Though if retard-kun takes too long I'll just have to choose a mech for him.
>>98312472
Your pilot and mech have been accepted.
>LCT-1V Wang Lee 5/7, House Liao. (BV: 350)
Total BV: 11,794
Liao: 2,706

Officially, 1 slot remains open. I also want to point out that not a single assault mech has been rolled. The chance of getting to roll for an Assault mech is 10%(7.5% for Marik). With 16 entries, that means out of the 16 mechs rolled, we should have gotten 1.6 assault mechs. So what I'm getting at here, is that we're due for an assault mech. So the person that claims this last slot is surely going to roll something like an Atlas and not a Stinger.
Also, in the spirit of pilot insanity, I will give whoever rolls for the last slot the option of skipping the pilot roll and just accepting a 7/3 Mechwarrior instead. You'd be the worst shot, but also the best pilot. How daring do you feel? If you choose to do this however, you must state you are doing before you see the results of your mech and you do not get to make a pilot roll at all; just the mech roll. Or just roll for a pilot like normal. It's not like I care b-b-b-baka.

>>98312700
Don't go impersonating other anons!

>>98311110
Is this an Azumanga reference?

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>>98312361
>You rolled a 399. I don't know how you came up with a Warhammer for that.
I don't know, man, I'm doing my best over here.
Banan Bread Jones deserves the Riflrman, for sure, but would also do the Quickdraw. Dealer's choice.

>>98312764
So if we're going for 4v4v4v4, that means that Kurita has the highest chance for cumulative odds giving them an Assault 'mech?

Dragon honored if true.

>>98312818
Yes.

>>98312851
Do it. Post the image and roll a 2/3 in a Battlemaster. Prove that the Dragon is worth honoring.

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>>98312902
Can't do it myself. I'm the anon who rolled up Ishtar Marik, and it's one per anon. I will not break the honor system, as that would only serve to bring dishonor upon the Dragon.
Someone else will be needing to roll up who fills out Slot 4 in the lance.

>>98312902
7/7 in a Charger*

How is the most reasonable WoB like? Was it the True Believers?

>>98313052
Counter-Reformists, they're the few who (eventually) stood up to the other Blakists because the atrocities were too much. They're still Blakists though, so the Regulans still dropped cobalt-nukes on them and everyone harboring them.

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I FUCKING LOVE THE FIDELIS

>>98312936
Thank you for not rolling up duplicates. I am the Host of this and have not rolled up a pilot/mech. If however enough time passes and the final slot remains open, then I'll claim it myself. Also, while I'm no Drac, if I do end up claiming the final slot, it will be for Kurita to even it out. I'd be hoping for a Panther though, cause Panthers are cool.
>inb4 Salvage: Lyran, Commando
>>98312851
It's not going to be a 4v4v4v4. It's going to be an 8v8 and I'm going to put the pilots/mechs onto one team or the other to try and get some reasonably close BVs to eachother.

Friends, I have read it cover to cover, and I must share the unfortunate conclusion that the new core rulebook is good.

>>98313197
I haven't seen anything that I consider objectionable, but I'm not using it until at least conventional vehicles and BA have full rules. Other people I know won't touch it until there's all of that, conventional infantry, and aerospace. Our upcoming campaign is full blown 3d warfare with orbital insertions and everything, so we need all the unit types.

>>98311513
I love the Howler
It's just a funny little guy with gorilla arms that's nice and cheap whose only job is to run around and cause problems

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Now ready to introduce my friends to A Game of Armoured Combat

>>98313197
Anything particulary noteworthy?

>>98313219
Apparrently it will take them a year or more for the next rulebook, according to Ray

>>98313481
The biggest change is that skidding is gone. Which is fine, it was never a good mechanic and never made much sense. There are two new pieces of equipment: Light and Heavy plasma rifles.

Lots of minor tweaks, QOL stuff for the most part.

>>98313496
Makes sense to me. They started a public playtest of this back in september, and it's scheduled to hit shelves in september. They must've had a draft when they started the public playtest, so it clearly takes over a year for these books to be made.

>>98312845
Ah shit, I'm blind! I completely overlooked your post. If you're leaving it up to me, then I'm going to base my decision on 1 thing and 1 thing only. That is... I think it'd be cool to have a Quickdraw there. You'll be getting the 4G variant simply because it's the most common one.
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Total BV: 12,760 (15/16 slots filled)
BVs by faction:
Marik: 3,898
Liao: 2,706
Kurita: 2,325
Mercs: 3,831
The Pilots & Mechs, now sorted by BV within their faction.
>ON1-VA, Janusz Kotow 4/5. House Marik (BV: 1,328)
>WHM-6R, Morian Cumer 5/6, House Marik (BV: 1,117)
>SHD-2H, Morgan Munroe 4/5, House Marik (BV: 1,064)
>LCT-1V, Igzael Antwerp-Jones 4/7, House Marik. (BV: 389)

>PXH-1, William McCormick 3/6, House Liao (BV: 1,208)
>VLK-QA, Vladimir Ignatyev 6/7, House Liao (BV: 557)
>WSP-1A, Eleanor Gale 2/4, House Liao. (BV: 591)
>LCT-1V Wang Lee 5/7, House Liao. (BV: 350)

>QKD-4G, Cadet Ayumu "Banana Bread" Jones 6/6, House Kurita (BV: 966)
>BJ-1, Ignacio Nachomura 4/5, House Kurita (BV: 949)
>LCT-1V, Ishtar Marik 4/6, House Kurita (BV: 410)

>CRD-3R Crusader, Rebecca Buck, 4/6, Merc (BV: 1,251)
>PXH-1, Tetsuo Puentealto 3/5, Merc (BV: 1,249)
>WVR-6R, Shiloh Verkler 5/6, Merc (BV: 947)
>WSP-1A, Bob Denard 4/5, Merc (BV: 384)
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1 slot remains! Who will claim it? Will it be for House Kurita? Will the anon take up the offer of the guaranteed 7/3 pilot? If enough time passes, I'll just roll up a pilot myself. So also, if you've already rolled up 1, please don't roll up another. I wouldn't mind getting to claim one myself if it comes to that. If not though, then that's okay. I'm fine with just playing ref for the matches.

>>98313604
What are the stats for the heavy/light plasma? I saw that one deals 12 damage but nothing else, like weight crit heat bv and stuffs

>>98313739
I assume they're going to follow in regular Plasma Rifle footsteps and be the same crits, weight, and heat as Light and Heavy PPCs. The only real question is ammo per ton.

>>98307251
>Current major Periphery powers like the Taurians, Canopus, and Marians are now counted as part of the Inner Sphere. Just to fuck over their pride and force new nations to be made in the new Periphery.
While I do find that amusing, I have been thinking that if human occupied space expands to the point where the traditional periphery no longer constitutes the frontier i. e. periphery of interstellar civilization, would it not make sense to instead rename it to the Outer Sphere? I know this would introduce another tier into your system, but I think it would become a useful category if the setting were to advance.

>>98313938
It already happened before the Star League even existed. Skye was in the Outer Reaches when it rebelled and caused the Terran Alliance to collapse. It's not even halfway to the periphery now, and the far out places are called the Deep Periphery on modern maps.

>>98313938
Buddy, that already exists. The "Near Periphery" and "Outer Reaches" are on old IS maps that describe places like the Feddie Outback. What you describe is the "Deep Periphery."

>>98313956
>>98313988
I think I may not have communicated this correctly. I was proposing "Outer Sphere" as a term for the Taurians, Canopans, etc. NOT the deep periphery. They're no longer the edge of the sphere and could considered to be within its bounds, but they're not in the center of it either.
Like to slot it into the other guy's system from before, it would go in between "inner Sphere" and "Near Periphery".

>>98314074
Damn wait I just saw a map on Sarna explicitly naming a spinward portion of the Periphery as "the Outer Sphere"
Well that puts the kibosh on that I guess.
I suppose I just wanted to way to distinguish the old periphery states from the new periphery without just lumping them into the rest of the IS.

do you think they'll ever address what the homeworld clans have been up to after the jihad? I know some have raided the Scorpion Empire but what of the rest?

>>98309575
Just in case you have not ordered before and do not know, IWM mechs come without a base. I can print them myself, but that is so retarded.

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>Reading about Deep Periphery states
>Find the New Delphi Compact
So you're telling me that at any particular time, the Inner Sphere is one quarantine-break away from a Columbian Exchange-level mass death event that would kill 80-90% of the population?

>>98309575
they're having a sale?

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>>98314196
Know what settling the regular Inner Sphere was like in the first place? Mega plagues of alien life are Tuesday.

>>98314196
I dunno, if the fatality rate is that high I don't think the disease can spread fast and wide enough, the sick dying before spreading the disease to other people stuff

>>98314125
Maybe. If Alaric and the Wolf Empire stick around. I could very easily see them marching back to the homeworlds to try and force them to help out with the whole conquering the Sphereoids thing.

>>98311366
>How far can you go with 'My Star got this not-on-my-Clan-MUL-mech by winning a Trial with other Clan' excuse?
I'd say you could get away with two lights or mediums, one heavy OR one assault per Star and obviously there's some abstract weighting for cost and the status of the 'mechs in question as well as the attitude of the Clan you're getting it from.

>>98314196
Maybe? But on the other hand, they might be lying to stop people from fucking with them and despite "muh superior medical sciences" most of them are dirt-grubbing peasants and if it did spread everyone in the IS would shit a collective brick and start dumping god knows how many trillions of C-bills into finding a solution and finding it NOW.

>>98314196
Nah. The jump ship crews don't interact with the fellas on the droppers and the sheer length of travel means that any fresh disease will wipe the little ball empty before it hits the next planet.

Humanity probably got like twenty types of Space Herpes though.

What is the tactical purpose of submersible mechs?

>>98314380
To deploy on water worlds like Galtor and be able to fight.

>>98314196
Boy, do I have a Curse of Galedon for you!

>>98314392
I feel like Heart of Darkness with amphibious mechs taking a trip down a river could be nifty.

So theoretically, you can use the Shadow Hawk's head to repair/replace the Griffin's and vice versa?

>>98314414
I've read Heart of Darkness. Still not sure what the author wanted me to take away from the story.

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>>98314414
Watch VOTOMS up through the Kummen arc and you'll get Battle Armor doing it.

>>98314444
I think it would be fun with Clanner retardation. "Star Colonel Such-and-such is behaving in a very un-Clanlike way in the jungle. You are to terminate his command."

>>98314429
You go live among primitives, and you go native. Coming from a civilized society doesn't make a man civilized. It's a tale as old as time.

>>98314468
A story about an honorable Clan force being gradually picked apart by one that has succumbed to dezgra tactics until they're forced to use the same strategies, tainted forever by their ordeal after their objectives are accomplished, seems like it'd be a good premise for a short story.

>>98314471
Huh. I hadn't considered that. They put so much emphasis on meeting the guy in Africa who handled the Ivory (funny that I can't even recall his name now) and then he just wasn't all that special of a guy, yet everyone still idolized him. Even at the end of the book when the main character is talking to the widow about him. They just keep muttering about how amazing he was and how he was too great for the world.
I suppose the lesson I took away from it was the classic wisdom of don't buy into the hype.

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>>98313725
Cannot one man, find his honor, and take up arms in the name of The Coordinator, and all the little orphans of The Combine?

>>98312511
I honestly feel that the Jenner gets replaced by a bunch of other fast jumping lights like the Spider and Venom which end up performing a somewhat similar niche yet at times be slightly more capable, hell with the Spector back in service you have to question what role is there for the Jenner? The Jenner chassis already is about as far as you can take it without resorting to an XL. The Panther meanwhile gets a few sidegrade options but nothing really takes over the role it offers.
>>98313192
>It's not going to be a 4v4v4v4
Shame that would have been kino
>>98314380
Fighting on Butte Hold. Legit look at a map of that world sometime.

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I want you to give me your most bullshit mech, something that will make people give you the middle finger and stop being your friend for even suggesting you be allowed to field it.

The Republic of the Sphere, whatever happened there?

>>98314535
>Butte Hold
The primary food there is algae bricks for a reason.

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>>98314547
A Banshee model for a Hiatus'd 3151 TRO: Marian Hegemony Project I was working on.

>>98314548
A bunch of IS nobles with a giant army after the Jihad kept local TH boys oppressed until their own nobility took the opportunity to go back home with their goodies when the blackout hit. Also, Stone thought it was still 3075 until the day he died and was pointlessly aggressive and gay thinking he could relive the glory days.

100% honesty. They were a cult destined for slow failure from the beginning. When most of your Prefecture governors are heading out for their own interest within two years of the head of state retiring, and your remaining central authority crushes all your actual republic representation for daring to try to pry some actual influence from the Paladin council, it was all going to burn, anyway.

Are the Dark Age and IlClan fun to play? It seems like there's a lot more advanced tech whose effects you need to adjudicate which slows down gameplay.

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>>98314531
If nobody has claimed the spot by tomorrow, I'll take it myself. Yes, for Kurita even. I've been prepping stuff a lot today, so I'm not doing any more today. Got digital versions of all the necessary record sheets prepped and customized, with an open spot waiting for the final Kuritan.
>>98314535
>Shame that would have been kino
Look man, having to control all 4 sides and manage what each of them is planning is a bit much. I can handle 2 teams no problem, but 4? Not ready to try that just yet.

As an aside, since people do seem to love the chaos of MegaMek's Princess so much, I came up with a possible idea on how to handle initiative for this. So instead of just doing a roll off by the teams and then going back and forth with what I think the smart move is, what if I rolled a d8 to determine which mech moves on the team next? Thoughts and feedback on that idea? There will be some other house rules I'm planning to try out. One of them is overriding forced withdrawal. Here's my idea for that. When a mech has met the requirements for a forced withdrawal, they instead take a PSR every turn when they activate. If they pass it, they keep fighting. If they fail it, that's when they've lost their nerve and finally withdraw. I'm thinking of it being a straight PSR roll, but with a +1 modifier added to it for every wound that Mechwarrior has suffered.

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>>98313725
>>98314531
Should use Akio Haga and he should be a 0/2 pilot now, up from 1/3

>>98314635
I play in ilClan every now and again, 10 BV usually. The big difference is the abundance of really dangerous mechs. Things can go to hell extremely fast, which will be disorienting if you're used to early eras where everything ends in a shin kicking dance.

>>98314653
>everything ends in a shin kicking dance.
The cripple fight is the best part of the game!

>>98314647
And why anon would an 0/2 pilot be at a school meant to take in green rookies and give them training?

>>98314668
He's the instructor.

>>98314665
Hey man, with the changes to Punches and Kicks now both getting a -1 modifier, the square dancing days are over. Now we can get some proper Rock'em Sock'em Robots happening too.
>>98314653
>...10 BV usually.
That'll get you Bart Simpson with a slingshot. But no DENTAL PLAN!

>>98314675
The instructor isn't going to fight though. Also, I have some lore which will come out about this place as the battle gets underway.

>>98314668
The Coordinator called in a ringer to ensure his team does best.

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Oh boy

>>98314635
The Blackout/Dark Age has the potential to be a fun sandbox since you can use nearly every single toys in the setting in low-intensity warfare but mercs are more or less defunct so it's hard to feel motivated to start something.

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>>98310831
yeah losing 2 legs make you immobile

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Interesting

>>98314691
I'm kind of viewing it as going in the opposite direction. Take a look at the Kuritan pilots for this. Their best is a 4/5. Others are 4/6 and 6/6. These Mechwarriors are young, but also embarrassments. They are being sent here as a final chance to improve themselves and show that they are worthy of serving the Dragon. If they cannot, then it would be better for their family honor if they don't return at all.

>>98314694
>but mercs are more or less defunct so it's hard to feel motivated to start something.
I don't know about Dark Age, but ilClan is made for mercs and low intensity "everyone can fight anyone" matchups. There is so much bullshit made available by Clan Wolf and Clan Jade Falcon vacating their empires, and the Republic evaporating moves all their bullshit special RotS mech designs into merc availabilty.
People hate the ilClan era for Alaric winning, but it's such a shitshow in-universe that anything goes until some unknown point in the future we know it doesn't anymore.

>>98314653
Tbf, my comfort zone is 3050s-3060s, where there's enough firepower and FASA corrected their mistake of keeping all the engine hit locations in CT that things don't turn into the Introtech shin kicking dance. But I'm trying to get into Jihad and beyond.

>>98314713
Almost all of that section is verbatim from the BMM.

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>>98314547
I'm sure there's a way I could get this little shit cheaper, but I'm already putting in a Small Cockpit just to fit in an extra Heat Sink. 900 BV for a cheaper and shorter ranged Hollander is going to have to be good enough.

>>98314738
If anything, Mercs have even more impact in Early DA before the rearmament. It's the large orgs that are sluggish and weak. Galatea went from it being illegal to hire mercs into a bigger hub than Outreach in less than two years. In general, mechs are rarer, but that means if you do have one, it counts more.

>>98314756
How's the power armor situation. I kinda liked the Clickytech style forces of a 1-2 mechs, sone tanks, a few stands of infantry, and maybe some Agrimech technical.

>>98314692
I feel that Snow Raven quote really could be answered sarcastically. Most people usually forget the Snow Ravens exist in most situations anyway.
>>98314699
>>98314713
How long till this is publicly available?

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what's the best deal for a new battletech player? t. 40k refugee

>>98314713
Yeah, I'm ignoring #7.
>>98314699
Well now, that critical effects page is actually pretty convenient. Nice to just have it all together like that and making the descriptions as short as possible.
Gyros only being a +2 is lame. It's okay for mechs to fall over and the Gyro being hit should cause that unless the Mechwarrior is hot shit.

>>98314770
A Game of Armored Combat, has a nice array of Introtech minis you can use in any era, a bunch of standee cards you can use for larger games, and it comes with a rulebook if you want a physical one. Get it before the next version comes out, that one will come with a bunch of newer designs you can only really use in the most modern setting.

>>98314770
If you mean cost per mini, the Alpha Strike box. I, and many others, would recommend the A Game of Armored Combat box to you instead.

>>98314763
In the 3060's, BA was something like 1 platoon per infantry regiment. By the 3100's, it's 50%-66% of infantry. BA are everywhere. Just remember that mechs/everything else ration is about 1/3. So for every actual Battlemech, you'd have something like a tank and squad of BA.

>>98314738
I feel like the logical next step for the setting is "somehow, the Homeworld Clans returned", but I don't know how I feel about another Clan Invasion, especially because the gulf won't be as big as TL1 vs Clantech.

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Glad to see that my feedback got into the rulebook

>>98314788
They've specifically said they have no idea what to do with the HW Clans, but who knows?

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>long edge deployment with 2
mapsheets
people do that?

>>98314764
They are aiming for gencon then September IIRC

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WarShip got mentioned

>>98314792
Who gets to be the fun bad guy going forward? Say what you will about DA, but Malvina Hazen was fun to hate. And most eras have had some faction that was fun to hate. Between Dracs and Capellans in 4SW, Amaris in 2750s, Clans (esp Green Burd and Smoked Jags) in the 3050s, Katherine in the FCCW, the telephone company going insane in the 3070s.

You almost need a new faction that's somehow not a lame rehash, or let the Capellans or Dracs take a turn in the antagonist driver's seat.

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Xotl You dare to recommend game/BV size?

>>98314847
>Dracs lure in HW Clans who want to resettle in the IS with various promises plus 'muh honor'
>They now have a couple of Clans in their corner
>Shenanigans ensue
Unlikely, but I feel like the next step for the HW Clans is to give them a reason to come to the Inner Sphere, be it a want to settle, join the new Star League, think the Clans who are there are doing jack and shit, or some other third thing

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>>98314915
Tetatae invades the HW and they become refugees. IS now has to prepare for the upcoming alien invasion

>>98314847
Problem is I feel like they've already gone out of their way to snub all the fun evil factions pre-emptively
>Dracs got BTFO and pushed back to basically a status quo with the fed suns, currently on the defensive against Rasalhague
>Capellans got BTFO by Alaric
>Hell's Horses got utterly humiliated against the fucking Barrens statelets of all things, absolutely dezgra
I guess the Marians could be pushed in their terrorizing of Canopus, but they're kinda small-time.
I have an idea for an antagonist though. The Punished Wolf's Dragoons are already going out of their way to fuck with Alaric directly with the sibko abduction shenanigans, why not have Kincaid get unhinged while he's at it and start indulging in warcrimes? An evil Merc Company with the capacity to show up anywhere in the IS could be a fun arc villain of sorts, being a real thorn in Alaric's side while he tries to establish the 3rd SL.

>>98314847
They'll probably pull something out their ass regarding the Marians. They've been trying to do something notable with them forever.

>>98314931
The Green Burds should have won, man. Malvina Hazen would have nuclear levels of heat, and that could drive more conflict.

>>98314713
>>98314699
>>98314692
BATTLETECH IS RUINED FOREVER THE FUCKING TRANNIES HAVE WON

>>98314931
>I guess the Marians could be pushed in their terrorizing of Canopus
That would make the Marians heroes.
>>98314952
You know if they do anything with the Marians it will be having them get wiped out by the MoC to make the MoC bigger and ever so closer to treating them as a great house.

>>98315021
>You know if they do anything with the Marians it will be having them get wiped out by the MoC to make the MoC bigger and ever so closer to treating them as a great house.
I actually really like this. Marians are really obvious villains, and more clear bad guy factions should face real consequences rather than get rewarded like the Capellans do. Plus, I don't want to have to see literal slavers in the game at the status of a real nation state. Let that evil shit stay with lawless pirates where it belongs.

>>98314915
The Homeworld Clans wanting to settle in the IS does not mske sense. They had a giant retard fight and abjured the invading Clans for letting the IS taint them. If anything they should be coming to conduct an annihilation against the IS as a concept.

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>>98314915
I think it'd be kinda funny if the homeworld clans, in their self-annihilating pursuit of purity of the Clan way, have warped into something completely different again.

Maybe their endless trials against itself during the dark age era, basically going from the Homeworld Clans to unifying under a singular Clan. Then having done that and still being terrified of what might happen to them if they even touched the Inner Sphere again now they achieved the True Way as ol' Nicholas K intended, just went completely fucking nuts.

(spitballing idea) Like have them just go into a full bizarro 3025 of their own where it's all just fallen apart, they're down to fielding masses of protomechs and battlearmours across irradiated wastelands with true mechs being rare compared to what the used to be, where they've lost the capacity to build some of what's staple tech for IS Clans or even now IS regulars are capable of and they're now using mechs that'd look more at home in Solaris matches or the periphery.

Because I don't want to see Clan Invasion (yet again). I don't want to see Clan Invasion: Deep Space Blakists Edition either.

>>98315121
>I don't want to have to see literal slavers in the game
That's the MoC. No, I won't let you forget the true lore.