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Started my Third Star League SLDF army. SLDF Lance, supported by a Point of Snow Raven ProtoMechs. For the First Lord, and the IlClan!
>>98365807Are protomechs still a thing in Il-Clan? I thought FASA/CGL tried to bury them because they're really good and the art is goofy with the fluff aspect of "uh the pilots go insane and die in 2-3 years".
>>98365850Snow Ravens and Hell's Horses still use 'em in canon.
>>98365850>Are protomechs still a thing in Il-Clan?Yup, Ravens and Horsies :D
What should pulse lasers sound like? I was idly thinking it would be neat if instead of a pew pew blaster, they sounded like a giant SLR mirror flapping in burst mode.
>>98365807>Third Star League SLDF armyKino>Snow Raven ProtoMechsFUCKING BASED
>Be me, at Fort Gordon.>Eating breakfast in the DFAC when I see that the local TTRPG place has a day every week where they host games.>Eagerly search to see what they've got.>Everything is offered. Except Battletech. It's not so popular that they regularly host it.I am the sad.
>>98365937wub wub wub
>>98365945If you want to play literally anything other than 40k/what your friends play/AMG existing IP stuff until the license expires, you have to bootstrap the local scene yourself, often while fighting against LGS owners understandably looking dimly on someone using their space to promote something they don't sell.
So we've got CGL employees making our /btg topics now. Wonderful.
Playing with tanks tomorrow for the first time, still have no idea how skidding works.
>>98365972So I've learned. Granted the guys from my old Basic platoon were interested in playing, my only problem is we're in different companies and I cannot do easily reach them. It sucks. Although.One wants to learn Aerospace. I don't regret not being able to play that.
What is the best of the LAMs?
>>98366282The 3 Blakist LAM designs are pretty ok
HONOR THE DRAGON!
>>98366282That one Wasp with a 5 ton bomb bay.
Between the MRM and C3 changes, is the Draconis Combine - dare I say it - back?
I haven't played BTech since my minis were made by Ral Partha. Starting to get back into the game, slowly, though my first question is...is there a resource to see what mechs come in what boxes, the 4 packs I mean. A grand list of everything.
>>98366476https://www.sarna.net/wiki/List_of_ForcePacksThis should be at least the start of what you need, from there you can see the contents of each pack and other details.
>>98366476>>98366498Whilst a lot of the old designs have been visually improved upon with newer miniatures, it's also worth noting Ral Partha still make mechs up to a certain point of time, like you can still get a whole bunch of stuff up to the Project Phoenix releases and various Word of Blake jihad era types, and I think they are still cheaper than Iron Wind Metals, especially if you're in the UK or Europe, and double especially since they tend to have a couple of sales per year that you might be able to take advantage of. Handy if you're trying to get hold of something they cover, things you can't be bothered to track down in getting prints of (like the mainstay of several periphery states the Marshal is still the same old metal model if you can't get a print of the one redesign), or in particular if you want more battle armour options.
>>98366498I usehttps://www.sarna.net/wiki/Miniatures_-_Catalyst_Game_LabsBut you have to skip past the first chunk of it since that's all the skinny, out of print alpha strike plastics.
>>98366498TY I'll check that out to figure out what I might want to try to acquire. Also haven't painted in decades.>>98366547TY for that bit of info. While I haven't played tabletop in decades, I did play a little MWO and saw a lot of the changes in mech design, some I like, some not as much.
>>98365850There was this Raven ProtoMech pilot who was active over 11 years by 3146
>>98366648Fanfiction nonsense
I've reviewed the rules on Charging. I didn't see anything against this, but I just want to confirm. There's nothing that says you can't charge a unit up a hill, right?
>>98366733As long as you have the extra movement to go uphill.
>>98366387They should've leaned into LAM bomb bays with more LAM variants built around them.They seem really versatile.
Just finished my second BT paintjob! This time it was the Commando from my AGoAC box. Like the Locust I posted a few weeks ago, this guy's in the 7th Pesht Regulars' colors. My microsol/set finally arrived in the mail so I was able to try my hand at a couple decals this time.I still feel that the paintjob came out pretty thick, but I think it turned out better than the Locust did, mainly on account of using vallejo for the white base instead of the crap I used before. Hopefully I Honored the Dragon at least a little.I have bottle of Folkart white that I want to try next, might try it on the Venom maybe. That way I can know which white I'll want to use when I get to the Panther.
>>98366808And now I understand how mechs can fall from high heights. Should be interesting to try this out sometime. Hopefully soon.
>>98365807SLDF uses stars now don't they?
>>98367013Most of the time if they're high up, you'd be better off doing a push attack. It's not telegraphed as hard and you can still use torso guns.
>>98367028Although you can only push if you're on the same level as them. If they're up on a peak, you would have to charge to displace them.
>>98366928If you want your white to come out a bit smoother, you can get a makeup brush, get grey spray primer or black if you want an ad hoc panel-line solution, and dry brush lighter and lighter greys. White is notorious for looking thick and splotchy when painted on directly, so in order for it to look good, you have to build layers of lighter and lighter grays until it's effectively white.Nice job anon, for a second paint job, that's good progress on those decals.
>>98367023Just the LARPers do
Is there any reason or advantage to use arty guns (thumper, sniper, long tom...) over the Arrow IV, especially when using the mech as a platform?
>>98367372You don't need TAG for tube artillery. But you do for Arrow IV.
I really like the LGR Ontos, bros...
>>98367372Much longer range, more ammo per ton, can't be intercepted by AMS.
>>98367409Arrow IV explosive doesn't need TAG, it behaves just like arty shells. It just doesn't get the 20 damage in one location that homing gets, it's the 4 clumps of 5 damage that arty delivers.>>98367461Very weird to see the androids she's clearly been fighting on this cover when there's nothing like that in Battletech canon, but I just chalk it up to early installment weirdness
>>98367495>canonwhy do you think the vast majority of the universe and events are left totally undescribed?
>>98367495hi
>>98367519
What should I search in Amazon for the Box of Doom you guys mentioned? pill box?
>>98367587Beads will get you a better size. It'll also depend on what size D6 you have, if you've got Monopoly dice you might have to get a full blown crafts kit or something.
>>98367601uh, I think what I have are 12mm ones
>>98367439The lgr is bad thoughever
>>98367650I find that the it lulls enemies into not targeting it while it plinks away.
How important are the ASFs? More than the mechs?
>>98365713>New Is Always Better Than OldThis is correct. If you started playing before 2024, you aren't welcome in Battletech spaces. Leave this fanbase.
>>98366033>we've got CGL employees making our /btg topics now.Nothing wrong with that. New things ARE better than old things. That's how progress works. If old things are what you like, please stop playing Battletech and leave our fandom. We don't want you here.
>>98367461This is an unnecessarily sexualized image that CGL would be better off divesting themselves from. Modern gamers don't want to see sexualized pics of white women.
>>98367974More important. Without space forces you will be chased away from the planet orbit before you will get a chance to deploy your troops.This is why HBS Battletech depiction of operations was skewed. A semi-mobile space station with no weapons was allowed to operate with impunity for weeks and months. Treating aerospace fighters like lostech while they are as common as mechs.
>Be the Von Rohrs>2nd Combine battlemech ever made & the first heavy>Be one of, if not the most common DC mechs during the Age of War>Function perfectly fine as a machine, kick plenty of Lyran ass>Ruling like you’re named after dies, new guy hates their guts>You get renamed>It’s not enough, you’re still a mark of the Tyrant’s reign>DCMS specifically ordered not to salvage you when you die>Eventually they just start dismantling you>Extinct by 2510>Completely miss the rest of the Millenium>Blueprints rediscovered during the Jihad thanks to Hegemony Memory Core (I assume, since it shows up in TRO 3075)>Nobody does ANYTHING with you as far as I can tellThis infuriates me. This mech looks too fucking cool to have been exterminated due to political symbolism.Like c’mon, at least let Davion resurrect this thing to taunt the Dracs or something.Also is this the earliest known instance of a mech chassis going totally extinct?
>>98368087Procurement has made questionable decisions in the past, but really: what would an ancient heavy like Von Rohrs bring that a Dragon couldn't?
>>98368087The earliest mech to go totally extinct is the Hector, because even for the age of war it sucked.
>>98368152Baby Behemoth
>>98367495>Very weird to see the androids she's clearly been fighting on this cover when there's nothing like that in Battletech canonIt's a Robotech reference. They're designs from Super Dimension Cavalry Southern Cross.
>>98368008As a modern gamer, I disagree. You do not speak for all of us. Also, they need to be bigger.
>>98367974Easily the most important asset to the point they break the setting.
>>98367461I think I have that book
>>98368087Anything it can do a Griffin can do better.
>>98367023No. SLDF still uses Lances while the Clans use Stars. There's a weird divide between Clan and Star League military forces in the IlClan League.
Why CGL can't stick to their announced plans? I eant my stuff, even if it reprint!Also, why faction packs are iClan, but faction manuals are CI.
>>98367495>Very weird to see the androidsFASA did not have battledroids/battletech figured out yet in the early days. They did not know how much robots they will have, how many people it will take to pilot a mech, will mechs have windows at all.It was very touch-and-go at first.
Why CGL cannot stick to their announced plans? I want my stuff, even if it is a reprint!Also, why faction packs are iClan, but faction manuals are CI.
>>98368334The Griffin is just a cheap knockoff of the Gladiator
>>98368406Nothing cheap about Griffins
>>98368419>Griffin Lovers actually think they deserve life
>>98368419>Griffin isn't cheap>UbiquitousJust as cheap as a two c-bill catgirl on Hardcore
>>98368419
>>98368406Now the Gladiator being dropped by the DC is what really annoys me. The Von Rohrs was already being outdone by mechs in the same era like the Griffin and Wolverine, but the Gladiator would've slotted into the Dragon's forces perfectly as the DC's main Medium mook. I am very much not a fan of the lore having it be dumpstered so early in history.
>SLDF AresFucking KINO. We need a plastic Ares right fucking NOW
>>98368002>New things ARE better than old thingsI agree. President Trump is definitely better than former Presidents Obama and Biden. Glad to see you agree brother. :)
>>98368146Style & class.
>>98368546No, we do not, and may it never happen because this isn't Warmachine
>>98368572So, nothing then. It died from worthlessness.
>>98368573Ok buddy>>98368546I'd buy the fuck outta a plastic Ares. It's a sick looking unit, and awesome in Wizkids Mechwarrior!
>>98368573>because this isn't WarmachineNo kidding. Warmachine was a good, well designed, well balanced game. This definitely isn't Warmachine.
>>98368588Until mk4 strangled it into imbalance with Colossals, which is what nonsense like the Ares is and BT has no need for that shit
>>98368603Anything is justified if it drives sales, and colossals did that. Battletech should do something similar. An evolving meta that obsolete old units and introduces new ones is the only way to make a game system financially viable. You had 50 years or whatever to play with old grog introtech stuff, it's long past time to retire all of that boomer crap and make people play with new units.
>>98368546A tripod box with the Area, Poseidon and the three RISC Tripods would be kinda cool, ngl.
>>98368235I knew I'd seen them somewhere before. I thought maybe it was just deja vu...
>>98368639Fuck that, you get 100 tons and nothing more, simple as
>>98368696CGL had on their wishlist a while back a "true omni" Ares model that came with the body plus all the parts to make all the known variants. So it's something they want at least
>>98368696A tripod box with the Area, Poseidon and the three RISC TripodsROPES OF CUM
>>98368008What about sexualized pics of drac women?
>>98368008>Modern gamers don't want to see sexualized pics of white women.Indeed, I'd enjoy a wide variety of sexualized images of women.
>"Things you can say to your MechTech, but not to your girlfriend."
>>98368582>Ok buddy>wrong scaled cliky-tech
>>98369064"I know it looks bad, but I'm sure we can find a new arm."
Are there any healthy communities for playing megamek or on Tts?
>>98369131No.
>>98369101Alright pal
What are the worst changes in the new rulebook? My hobby is complaining about Battletech rather than playing Battletech, so I need to be up to date with my material.
>>98369161I'm of two minds about removing mech skidding. On one hand, it never made sense. On the other hand, it was always very funny when it happened.
>>98369161It didn't remove all rules for mechs and make the game 100% about Protomechs, tanks and Battle Armor.
>>98369161>>98369368Removing mech skidding and reducing chain reactions from mechs falling into other mechs is an anti-fun measure.
>>98368827desu, my favorite aspect of the Dracs is the whole "multiethnic empire forced to cosplay as 1940s Japan by a descendant of Admiral Kurita" thing.
>>98369064"I cored that bitch and sent her shit flying, but I got caught in the backblast and that's why I can't walk straight right now.">>98369131MRC. They're competitive focused but chill and you can find casual and campaign megamek games.
>>98369064“She’s belonged to my family for a while. I think my Great grandpa was the first to use her, and every man in the house has had a turn since.”
>>98369064"I get inside her five times a day and take her to heaven and back!"
>>98367974It's like the navy and the air force rolled into one even more important thingSo you handwave it away to focus on the real problem, asf aren't real until you decide where when and how they are seeing one on the table.>>98368063The [whatever the colony ship was named] always had air superiority provided by it's employer's military campaign. When that didn't make sense it just meant that the ASF were already destroyed or never existed.
>>98369471Going by their House Book, nobody but the highest tier of their society, the absolute minority of the total population, can even be arsed to wear Kimono during some formal occasions.The people of New Kyoto probably wear more Kimonos than all the Dracs combined.
>>98368063>>98369498The canon Argo does have six Small Craft bays. Those are just about its only real fighting ability, but you can put a lot of air power in six bays.
>>98369540The Argo is not canon for no other reason than I decided it is not. I have spoken.
>>>/k/65342672Stat this Drac support vee.
>>983696537 tons Communications Equipment
>>98369653
Played my first game with tanks. Damn, SRMs, plasma guns and tandems rape them.
>>98369064"I can't live without you."
>>98369777Welcome to Battletech tanks. Enjoy your crit rolls.
The Lancelot is really growing on me in Introtech.
>>98369810Its far more capable than people give it credit for. Sure its a hot loadout but it has enough heatsinks to at least take advantage of its weapons. Armor ain't the best but its actually above average for its tonnage range. Certainly puts Rifleman fans in their place.
>>98369525
>>98369525Yet their soldiers often commit ritual suicide and die in the name of "honor" and their belief in the Dragon. Funny how successful some parts of the Combine's Weeb Indoctrination are.
>>98365713
>>98369940That's me at the back but with the new shit
>>98369826It becomes pretty nasty when there's a bigger threat like a brawler or fire support mech. I like it more than a 1G or 1N Dragon, which i think is a surprisingly apt comparison.
>>98365807Proper kino
>>98369903
>>98369948Its more like a 60 ton Warhammer that can occasionally spike in damage output. A sudden 26pt damage salvo in introtech at 15 hexes is not to be sniffed at.
>>98369924Them dying for the Dragon's much more important than them knowing how to put the Fundoshi on&where to store the pubic hair amulet.One would suppose.
>>98369777Did you tell your opponent what you were bringing beforehand?
>>98365807Nice. I like the fluff of them being supported by Snow Ravens. Nice work anon.
>>98365850Modern-day Snow Ravens can live a decade+
>>98370285Only in fanfics
I have finished turn 5 of the game I'm simulating. Pic is the preview of something that happened in the game. The turns should start to go a little bit quicker now.
>>98370317It's so sad Morgan Munroe died of SRM2 Ammo Detonation.
>>98370206I made both rosters and even custom mechs for my opponent.
>>98367996Phew, just made the cutoff. Though I give little to no fucks about anything post Tukayyid, is that ok with you?
>>98370303Neg, little spaz.
I hope when we get Clan Invasion 2.0. we see the Hell's Horses and Stone Lions fight. Mass battle, combined arms Clan warfare, Protos and BA and Mechs and Fighters and Tanks as far as the eye can see. Would be glorious.
>>98370432When the HW Clans return, shit gonna be kino. There's a whole Phenotype exclusive to the HW based on piloting ProtoMechs, they kept a good bit of the Society tech, they're just generally the more interesting Clans. Hope we see 'em soon.
The HW clans were killed by blakists
>>98370573>giving a free pass to the Star AddersPathetic copium
Better to die than be a Drac!
>>98370796It won't let me post my FedSuns because the format is wrong.
>>98366033Whole fandom is fucked, people only want new shitty soft plastic mechs and simplified rules. All fans of the game have gone radio silent until the cgl astroturfing stops
>>98370802Just like a Fedrat to get it all wrong. Die and be forgotten, slave.
I haven't played that many games (and they have all been introtech) but this is the first time I see a 'Mech take this much punishment without being destroyed. This WHM-6R took it like a champ. 7 turns I wailed on it and did not kill it.I did get one (1) lucky gyro hit and made it fall, but the bastard got up again.
>>98370820Me and my fellow davionmen demand the location of your front porch
>>98370831You cannot mistake it, it's the one I turn your mothers out from.
>>98370868Well the jerk store called, they're running out of you
>>98370921You sound distressed. Is the shame of being a Fedrat pest so vexing? It cannot be helped, you earned this with your countless sins.
>>98370802>It won't let me post my FedSuns because the format is wrong.How did someone to tech illiterate even find this site?
>>98370941Davions are stunted in more than just height. NAIS would be considered a cram school on New Samarkand.
>>98370830A few other things to share from this particular game:Tried out using colored popsicle sticks for fire declaration, like I read on some forum. They rock actually, I'm going to keep using them or something like them for future games. The way I did it is I pick similar colors for a specific type of weapon (green for Medium Lasers, blue for PPCs, yellow for LRMs, etc). I broke them in half to shorten them and to have distinctive "sides" of an arrow. When attack declarations come, people just grab the sticks and place them next to the target in a stack, with the broken half pointing roughly in the direction of the origin. The sticks are ordered inversely from the order of the attacks (ie the top of the stack is the first attack). When resolution comes round, we just solve target by target and remove the sticks. The person that fired keeps the sticks for reference on how much heat they need to add come heat phase.I found this way better than jotting things down in a pad, and it adds some visual flair to the table to know who's shooting who with what. It's fun when you look at a mini and see it surrounded by several stacks of popsicle sticks because it's getting focused down.
>>98370978This reminds me I really need to figure out a name for the Combine school in the Girls und Mech-verse.
>>98370993Forgot to mention, the sticks have the weapon name, damage, and heat info written on them for reference.
>>98370996What era?
>>983710213049 is the date.
>>98371021>>98371023To add on the theme for the Combine school is somewhere for daughters of disappointed samurai who wished they had sons instead to send them to be out the way, but the school secretly has some of the best mechwarrior training around.
>>98371023The Hojo Masako Academy of Onna-Musha Propriety
>>98370993Another thing I loved about this match was how it ended. We were doing MCA's Instant Action mission "Capture and Control" which is about having 3 hexes along the center of them map that the defender starts controlling. To capture them, a mech must end their turn in the hex. Whoever has more zones under their control come end of turn 7 is the winner.The match was decided by a DFA: a Locust with a broken hip took over a control zone, and a Shadow Hawk made a last ditch effort to displace it from the hex. It jumped and came crashing down on the damaged Locust from the top ropes. The attack hit and the Locust was pushed away, letting the SH steal the objective.
>>98371039I like it anon. Thanks.
>>98370868I love the Red Alert thing the Dracs have going on in artwork like this.
>>98371058A competitor in Mechwarrior Academy department. Well are you going to ever simulate a game from there for us?
>>98365713Had another round of Scouring Sands yesterday. I swapped my Avatar out for Timby and immediately nearly got it shot out from under me, only pure luck enabled it to not get hit by Artillery whilst on 1 structure remaining.In fairness, I should not have used it to try and bait out the Marauder IIC for a rear Melee attack from my TSM'd up Emperor. Not least because I was using an S variant and do more damage with that instead.Abysmal attack dice on my part though, only pure stubborness, persistance and me going "FUCK YOU DICE. I'M SPENDING ALL MY EDGE TO MAKE THOSE HITS." got me through.
>>98371139I was the one who ran the Davion vs Steiner academy game. I just haven't had any time to devote to it until very recently. If I do have time I'm thinking of a Comstar vs Combine match but don't want to get in the way of the anon doing their match with Liao, Marik, Kurita and Merc cause I am looking forward to the results of that match.
>>98371150I am that anon. I would say not to wait until I'm done if you want to do one. Mine will be slow going to complete and since I have long term plans of doing 4 of these battles in total, I won't be fully done with this plot thread for quite some time. Honestly, I'm anticipating at least 6 months, but giving myself a year for it really. So if you use me as your excuse, you'll never get one done.You have given me an idea however. Part of the lore for my anti-Federated Commonwealth Academy is that it's being run by Comstar. I'm not saying to put any simulated game on hold until I'm done, but perhaps you can put your Comstar vs. Kurita match on hold until I am. Then when I'm done with mine, perhaps we make it a crossover match between the 2 schools, though with what I'm planning for potential pilot growth, it might end up being a bit of a mismatch. Or maybe it'll be okay to do some sort of 8v12. Or perhaps the 4 Kurita pilots in my game will want to return to the DC and represent Kurita in that match? Just some things to consider in the background. There's still plenty of time to decide what to do in the meantime.Perhaps a skirmish between St. Fiacre of Breuil High School for Girls & The Hojo Masako Academy of Onna-Musha Propriety? I wouldn't mind a return appearance for my girl to solidify the lore I created for her.
>>98370432honestly, the HW Clans need to create some new clans to boost numbers as IS Clans have them beat alongside the other sphereoids backing the IS Clans upon learning that the HW Clans want to genocide the entire sphere to cleanse it of taint. Just do something with the HW Clans, CGL I beg you
>>98371281Maybe in 3352
>>98370921What's the difference, you're the all time best seller!
>>98371294now I'm curious: Anons, if you were hired to create a new clan for the Homeworld Clans, what would they be like?
>>98370432I would like to see the clans go all out like the Star Adders initially hoped. Everything except a small garrison force being thrown at them. However since they've said they don't want clan invasion 2.0 if the HW appears it probably wouldn't be an invasion. Maybe they could attempt to form an outer star league, essentially "the whole Inner Sphere is fucked and we can't trust the Star League to not come for us eventually, so lets ally with/forgive the Scorpions and try to form alliances with other periphery states to contain the Third Star League. Might support the Great Houses with the goal of destroying the nascent Star League, a "Crusade" of Star Adders and Scorpions helping the Lyrans deal with the Falcons and Wolves, helping rebels against the Rasalhague Dominions, and using their clan Watches to help instigate conflicts within the sphere while actively destroying attempts by the sphere to expand and colonize worlds outside the sphere while making colonies of their own.>>98371281>Need more clans to boost numbersWhy? Nothing stops you from having 40 galaxies under a single clan. If anything having fewer clans means less retarded infighting.
>>98370144>pubic hair amuletElite Ball knowledge.
>>98368827She a cute.
What do you guys think is the hardest-to-paint official scheme?
>>98368827>My girlfriend looks like this with a more narrow nose and long braids.>She doesn't mind dresses and roleplayI need to get that girl a cheongasm.
>>98371413Any of the ones that use tartan, those fuckers.
>>98369940>ALPHA STRIKE>Victor, Blackjack, Grasshopper, AtlasThe atlas really throws off the whole lance comp. Even a highlander though slower could jump with all the others. How would (you) fix the lance?
>>98371569I don't. It's obviously a FCCW Davion comp. They're even painted up as the BoG.
Any groups that just do casual games of megamek? Not interested in tournaments or any of that
>>98370144Store the what?
>>98371048By the way, what's a good lore excuse for that Capture and Control mission, do you figure?In our case the mission involved mercenaries hired by House Marik to stop pirates from getting FWL cargo info from computers located on the objective hexes, but I feel that's very shoddy and half-assed. I'm sure /btg/ could come up with something better
>>98371424How does one meet women like that?
Are jump jets a crutch?
>>98371745Mine came from the Deep South, and was adopted by German immigrants so she's black with delicious krautism for outdoors and numbers. First day I met her, she was wearing a goddamn Yu Yu Hakusho t-shirt. Can't believe I got so lucky.
>>98371769They are really good, if that's what you mean.
>>98371769They're only a crutch if you don't know what you're doing
Is armor a crutch guys
>>98371781It is a BV exploit...
>>98368571How can you not identify obvious satire?
>>98370317I swear if mg ammo killed a mech.... especially my mech.
I managed to use both a push and a charge attack tonight. The charge actually won since it displaced the mech that was standing on the objective on the final turn.
Reading the Ghost Bear Civil War books tonight, starting with Star Crossed Mechwarriors. I'm actually impressed. This book makes the Dominion civil war make a lot more sense by emphasizing how the collape of the Republic tanked the Dominion economy and that's really what pushed the Dominion into internal conflict. Characters so far are pretty flat, but no more so than in other military sci fi.
>>98371943It's all fucking retarded because in the Early DA, we're told the Bears are the Stoners biggest clan backers, but then they do fucking squat other than taking a few systems like Vega and never get called into the final ilClan fight. Then, they have a retarded civil war. Oh, let's not forget the fact that while the C-Bill is cratering, the Stone is somehow kept afloat outside the Wall in 3145. None of it makes any damn sense.
>>98371957It's actually a plot point early in tbe book that the Dominion is worried that the Stones they've collected won't be honored by whoever wins the ilClan trial. It's not explicitly spelled out but implied that this is yet another marching band in the parade of the Dominion's economic woes after. You should try reading sometime.
>>98371973I did. How the hell do you think the Stone is worth anything in 3150 when the Republic has been dead and holed up since 3135? That should should be valueless for over a decade.
So who do you think will win: the Bears or the Dragon? I don't think CGL will allow Luthien to fall so...
>>98371976The foreshadowing is very heavy in the Dracs' favor, specifically the quote of "a short victorious war" - that's a quote from a Russian minister referring confidently to the upcoming war with Japan in the early 1900s. Japan absolutely trashed Russia in that war. Pretty heavy handed implication that it won't go well for the bears when they fight space japan.
>>98371976If the Davions and Ravens stay out of it, the Combine should weather the storm in good fashion; if Kurita gets wishboned, I expect they'll lose Luthien as a viable capital world in a similar situation to when the Suns had New Avalon occupied for a time and the Combine will spend some years plotting a reconquista to get it all back.
>>98372012Right now the Ravens' touman is fighting the Capellans on Alaric's behalf, and the Davions are still recovering from retaking the Dragon's Tongue. So I don't expect the war to spread.
>>98372012IIRC both Teddy and Hanse said if Luthien falls the entire Combine will crumble. No longer the case after 100 years now?
>>98372053After 100 years of having a shared border with Clanners, I'm pretty sure Kurita's taken steps to have that not be the case anymore.
>>98367013>And now I understand how mechs can fall from high heights.Too bad you can't DFA by running off a Cliff Edge...>>98367587>What should I search in Amazon for the Box of Doom you guys mentioned? pill box?Pretty much any Plastic Organizer will work.>>98368755>Fuck that, you get 100 tons and nothing more, simple asWorks for me!>>98370830Oh man, that reminds me of my first "Battle Royal" free-for-all, where I had to end up walking out of the Circle of Equals to my Death because my Archer was Matchstick'd.>>98370993You could probably cleanly cut the popsicle sticks in half for less potential splinters.>>98371004And yeah, it really helps normies process the game when you give them templates like this.>>98371731I mean that's as good of a Watsonian explanation as you can probably get; Not a lot can be done standing around for 10 seconds in a particular area.>>98371298>Anons, if you were hired to create a new clan for the Homeworld Clans, what would they be like?Not sure if my usual concept of Homesteading Terraformers would work with what little we know of the HW Clans at this point.
>>98371298Something like a mixture of the Cylons and the Draka, where the trueborns are body-hopping tech immortals and the freebirths are gene-designed for permanent and inviolable servitude to their trueborn masters, enslaved without chains to their purpose.
>>98371298I forget who said it, but an anon in another thread mentioned the idea of the HW Clans degenerating such that when they return, the mech technology has been frozen in amber, but they swarm with a horde of protomechs and BA superior to existing tech.
>>98371989I look forward to the Rasalhague relief fleet meeting the Combine in battle over the planet Tsushima.
>>98371298I do kinda like the Draka idea but would take it in a different route>Clan is obsessed with genetic perfection>No jumping castes, if you wash out as a warrior you're liquidated>Even worker castes are bred for their role, you were bred from two bloodlines good at laying bricks and working assembly lines>Freebirths are essentially unheard of since most are aborted
>>98372127That could be cool. I think a lot of what makes the Clans appealing is being space weirdos that talk in English IIC and do a bunch of weird things.
>>98372129I could see them also leaning heavily into the clan culture and rigidly enforcing it, maybe even adding new rules to prevent fraternization between castes. Could even suggest that some have the goal of eventual speciation.
>>98372109>where the trueborns are body-hopping tech immortalsMan I got SO much shit for trying to suggest something like this as an alternative why the Inner Sphere remained Neo-Feudalistic; Where your Planetary Lord is basically the fuck-up caricature of a personality upload in your HPG.>>98372127Problem I see with that is an even bigger death spiral than the Steel Vipers purification madness; No trans-Caste mobility leads to greater and greater hyper specialization until you have an unthinking super organism that can't adapt to change.I mean Bees can make Queens from Drones for this very reason.
>>98372152I couldn't see that kind of tech being a Star League track, much less in use after its fall, but remove SL tech from SL's setting and let it grow out of sight and mind? The Clans would have been the perfect Petri dish to develop that way if the lore thinkers had wanted to lean real hard into Humanity 2.0 bordering on monstrous inhumanity.
What's going to happen to Megamek with CGL changing the rules?
>>98372171New update.
>>98372165>I couldn't see that kind of tech being a Star League trackEh, they were actually pretty close, I think the Space Defense Systems were regularly trained with the brain recordings of Admirals and such...
>>98372201I think ingrained ethical concerns would have cockblocked the development shy of realtime mind downloads into clone bodies, but Nicky K's Brave New World wouldn't have had such an impediment to advancement, especially with a caste system foundation to build from.
>>98372209>I think ingrained ethical concerns would have cockblocked the developmentI mean maybe, but then again this IS a setting where they nearly nuked themselves back into pre-Space Flight and yet still think killing a few hundred thousand by sword unthinkable.
>>98372215>where they nearly nuked themselves back into pre-Space FlightThey keep saying that happened, but then undermined it with later lore enough that 30 years after Helm it completely reversed that trend down the spiral.
>>98372222The implication is that it's not so much the Helm Memory Core itself that completely reversed it, it's that ComStar could no longer effectively strangle innovation through communication control when everyone suddenly was operating on a level playing field. >>98372152You're not going to genetically select for anything more than general traits. An inability to adapt would be cultural, not genetic. It's a pretty apt drawback for such a Clan to have; the Clans are in essence a small population in isolation, what works in those circumstances won't necessarily survive an introduction to a wider ecosystem. We already saw it with the Clan invasion and how a system designed around limited warfare constrained by a series of formal regulations was quickly put to the side the moment they had to deal with enemies who were unobliged to follow it.
>>98372222Well that's kind of the point; Fictional History will bend to accommodate the needs of the Fiction.When your game is based around high tech giant stompy war robots, you need an excuse for why you can still deploy high tech giant stompy war robots.>>98372270>You're not going to genetically select for anything more than general traits.But that's just it, you aren't selecting for general traits, but specific traits to optimize your result.Thus to get a better bricklayer, you breed something that more and more can ONLY lay bricks.Now while they obviously aren't going to survive getting to the biological machine designed to ONLY lay bricks, it's still very easy to specialize to the point where your society collapses because you have more bricklayers than farmers.
>>98372270I guess my gripe is the whole "tell, don't show" aspect of this purported tech degeneration, it gets talked about a lot but no one seems particularly bothered by it to the point where it's any actual impediment to existence. We hear about entire worlds starving from logistical collapse, but there's never a scene like in Man of Steel, where Zod and his people visit all the old Kryptonian colonies and find nothing but detritus of the dead, who seem to have died fighting each other for survival. It's a milquetoast grimdark setting that never achieves grim or dark in any meaningful sense. The largest bother to the Star League's collapse is DOME being erased, it's irrelevant to the setting at large.
>>98372305Well again, fictional history bends to accommodate the needs of the Fiction; Comstock is supposedly an example of such logistical collapse... Until you examine it closer and realize such a hyperbolic example doesn't even hold up under it's own internal logic.
>>98372319Boot World is so fucking cool
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>>98372215>and yet still think killing a few hundred thousand by sword unthinkable.If you’re referring to Kentares, that was 52 Million people who were killed by the sword.I agree that in pure numbers that’s still pretty small compared to the literal billions who died across the 1st SW, but the thing that made Kentares so deplorable to the IS was the hands-on nature of it.Nuking a world is impersonal. You hit a button and watch the boom. Sure, you could come by later and look at the aftermath, but you weren’t actually there killing them yourself. It’s still horrific, but considering the total war you’re fighting and that you’re probably trying to pacify a world or deny resources to the enemy, that’s just kinda the way the cookie crumbles.Going out of your way to have your soldiers personally shoot/stab 52 million people to death one at a time is quite a different deed. It’s an astoundingly manpower-intensive task that, in comparison to the nuke, takes far more time and investment. To the rest of the sphere, there’s no reason to use this method of mass slaughter except out of sheer sadism.
>>98372305There really isn't much of a story to tell considering the current timeline is centuries after those planets would have collapsed.
>>98372339Jinjiro-sama did nothing wrong, and I'm sick of pretending that he did
>>98372347His greatest deed was hanging himself in a padded room.
>>98369064"She runs hotter than a sauna and is even hard to control"
>>98372361t. some dead Davion First Prince
>>98372347The Combine had momentum against a demoralized Federation. He squandered the future of the Combine with an emotional tantrum, stopping the offensive to slaughter civilians, demoralizing his own troops, handing a moral rallying point to his enemies, hardening resistance and resolve against his invasion, and turning third parties toward supporting his enemy.
Hear me out - ejecting Mechwarriors turn into VTOL infantry.
>>98372370Would it be safer than the power armor ejection WoB had?
>>98372368Gross slander. The weakling Capellans and cowardly Taurians not able to capitalize on Davion's weakness allowed for the FedSuns to shore up their defenses and become emboldened by scurrilous propaganda.
>>98369940Does anyone else still use the old card standees? Or is just all models only for everyone now?I used to find that a couple of boards and a bag of loose card standees could be easily carried, especially when walking to a freind's house for a game. Thay are also easy to store and take up almost no space at all.
>>98372370What about full head ejection?
>>98372387This is a blue board, sir, we'll not have that pervert talk here
>>98370317Ammo explosions can be a bitch at times, but also fun. When playing Megamek, I had a crusader pinned against a bunker and being pummeled by three Dragons. One punched through into the torse and set of the LRM ammo - the explosion vaporised my Crusader (they carry a lot of ammo), but also destroying two of the dragons and crippling the third.
>>98372384There are current cardboard standees you can get. My group has pulled them out on occasion, usually for opfor mechs that nobody had a regular figure for. The fact that lots of them can be transported in a small container is a plus. I have a buncg in my army bag, but have never used them.
>>98371424Take her to a trip to Vietnam and have a tailor there modify one of those schoolgirl uniforms for yours truly.As much as I personally love Quipao, they're neither practical to make or own these days.
>>98372339>the thing that made Kentares so deplorable to the IS was the hands-on nature of it.Oh absolutely, especially since they almost certainly had to leverage literally every other means of dealing death just to put their victims into position for a Samurai Slicing, but that is also WHY it is so poignant.Exaggeration reinforces emphasis.
>>98372375Depends on whom you're up against. Like the Kuritas will swat that, because that's honourable, so ejecting and rapidly descending with exo leg bracings and a jump pack will be faster and safer.
>>98372435This was painful to read. Rarely is the language subjected to such a savaging.
>>98372435>>98372375Underrated pilot survivability enhancing solution.
>>98372171Megamek team are still trying to figure out if they will actually be able to implement all the new rules since some of them change inner working of mechs that were core systems of megamek and other systems depend on.If they will manage to implement all the new rules they will then determine if they will be able to keep the old rules as optional and if not, what rules will have to be replaced completely.That is the plan at least.
>>98372479Maybe they will fail, Megamek will die, and you fags will stop spamming threads talking about it
>>98372511And then CGL will be up shit creek without a Sheet Generator Program...
>>98372518You'll photocopy blanks and like it, zoomer
>>98372526We can, sure, but can CGL publish handwritten sheets?!
>>98372533Better find you a pencil, kiddo
>>98372305What's DOME?
>>98372526Nobody wants to play against your custom jumping tarcomp pulse boat, boomer
>>98372567Department of Mega-Engineering.
>>98372305Those worlds don't have the money to pay for mercs, so they aren't featured in BT stories.
Still waiting on that war between the Third Star League and Clan Hell's Horses that they've been setting up since fucking 2021.
>>98372607You will die waiting
>>98372571>custom jumping tarcomp pulse boatToo expensive, and illegal, for 3025.
>>98372618>for 3025.Well there's your problem.
>>98371225Alright okay. Might see what my schedules are looking like in the coming weeks and see if I do have time to give it attention. I was personally planning in doing something a little separate to try out different ideas then can look to see what works and what doesn't. It is mostly an excuse anyway to really have a bit of fun with a silly grudge match where occasionally get some entertaining characters out of it.
>>98372618Sorry boomer, but the BMR defaults to the 3060s so you're either adapting or being left behind
>>98372724No, you just aren't playing Battletech.
>>98372729Reminder that Hanse was 100% a legit pedo given the marriage to a kid etc
>>98372745He really wanted to bang Katrina and in many supposed counts he did in secret.
>>98372729>only use the book that has everything you need to play>nooooo, you can't use everything in the only book you need to play
>>98372745>Reminder that Hanse was 100% a legit pedoHe was forced by the circumstances of his birth.
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>>98372759Cheat all you wish, you will never be pure or skilled.
>>98372781>It's a leap year and she was only 17 years and 365 days old you sick fuck!
>>98372394Blue? NGMI.
>>98372798I doubt you have any more skill than I do if you have to default to the equivalent of sticks with rocks in them in order to beat someone in a game. And that's giving you face by assuming you even play in the first place.
>>98372826>default toThat is, in fact, the alpha point for Battletech in its truest form, anything else is hand-me-wins coping because you can't handle playing the real game. The Inner Sphere came into being in the 4th Succession War, everything else is fanfiction that mongrels hide behind to excuse their cowardice. I attest, vagrant from 40K, that you have never once ever played Battletech as it was intended to be and was formed as, and that makes you vermin with an invalid opinion.
>>98372846'tis poor bait, Star Commander, nothing more.
>>98372846I'm sorry boomer, what was that? I'm having too much fun here playing by tonnage to listen to your old-man-yells-at-cloud rant
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>>98372464This looks horribly stupid, dangerous and a nightmare to maintain in any kind of realistic engineering context, but I'm still in love with it.
>>98372319To be fair, it does make a lot of sense for the Star League to foster interdependence in its member planets to prevent them from getting ideas about breaking away. It's not too dissimilar to what happened with a lot of Eastern Bloc countries, although not to such an absurd extent.
>>98372927It's how you enslave a population. Make it so that they literally can't survive on their own. Then you can pass whatever policies you want and nobody can oppose you because if they do, you just sanction them and let them die from lack of vital supplies.Inter-dependency is just the chain of slavery with some flowers tied into the links. Make no mistake, you're still a slave.
>>98372347He unironically ruined what would've been a complete sweep for the DC. The only reason the Fedsuns still exist is because of how badly he fucked up with Kentares. In fact, I want to see the AU where Kentares didn't happen and the Dracs end up sweeping the Succession Wars in time for a a fully united Drac run IS taking on the Clans.
>>98372745Reminder Hanse was a gaslighting, opportunistic warlord and the heroic, affable Hanse that fans often paint him as is unironically just his nephew, Morgan Hasek-Davion.
>>98372957A dark future.
>>98372957>The only reason the Fedsuns still exist is becausesome knock knock jokes end with Davion Man standing behind the door.
>>98372957And you completely overlook that he didn't personally murder those 52 million people. He gave the order, but he soldiers carrying out those orders. All in the name of "honor". Amazing what horrible deeds you can justify for the sake of honor.A genocidal outcome from the DC was always inevitable, for a bad seed grows into a bad tree which bears bad fruit. The seeds of the DC are rotten and so is the fruit they bear.>>98372967How many billions would the DC have had to murder to reach that point? The path to DC's paradise is seeped in the blood of innocents that damns their honor for all eternity.
>>98372957Nah DC was already bogged down and overextended, there was no ending the First Succession War with a victory.
>>98373048Not a victory no, but the Feds were absolutely at the breaking point before Kentares, and not having to deal with the Fedsuns would have given the Dracs a lot of breathing room in the Second Succession War.
>>98371857Which one is yours?>>98372395Why did the ammo explosion damage the Dragons?
>>98373065The Fedsuns wouldn't have been destroyed. Best case scenario you get something like the Dragon's Tongue which you can't hope to hold forever.
If dubs alaric gets publicly executed by blakist cyberzombies
>>98373087He gets raped to death instead by Blakist GF
>>98372479I have a sinking feeling that this new edition is going to split the community, and I don't have high hopes from the creators of SR6.
Where can I find the rules for these duels?
>>98373071Which one exploded?>>98373130H-hot
>>98373231Solaris VII: The Game World Game Master + Player's Book. It's in the mega.
Always wanted more C3 mechs, especially command mechs so I decided to make an entire line of Battlemasters built around having a series of C3 slave and master units to allow them to interconnect up to the battalion level.
>>98373256Thanks.
>>98372222>They keep saying that happened, but then undermined it with later lore enough that 30 years after Helm it completely reversed that trend down the spiral.I mean, you say Later lore but Helm was discovered within the first couple IRL years and the timeskip from 4th Succession War to the Clan Invasion was in like the first 5 years.This tech reignition is a victim of the really early figuring out of what Battletech even was, and trying to emphasize the pre-spaceflight threat is moreso a mix of the consequences of what FASAconomics were accidentally made to be alongside the later fleshing out of the pre-3000s lore.
>>98372963Rate me, /b/!
>>98373248Hmmm, do you guys really want me doing the batrep while the battle is still in progress?
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>>98372745>Reminder that Hanse was 100% a legit pedo given the marriage to a kid etcYou ever read those early books? Holy shit, it gets so much worse. Dude was very clearly not thinking of her in any normal way.
>>98372745>>98373316I thought that whole situation was he wanted to fuck Katrina but she was a hag at that point and wanted grandchildren
>>98372607Which version of the Blood Asp even IS this?
>>98373361>>98373316I mean, she's not exactly living in the real world either in places. The funniest example being when she's trying to convince her body double that Hanse is a good guy really, who doesn't just see his soldiers as pawns on the chessboard... literally less than a hour from him straight up starting the 4th Succession War because he thought it would be a funny "bit" to do during his wedding. No causus belli of any kind, well, recently anyway. The whole body double thing had been a while ago.And she knows about this, 100%, and just decides that somehow he's not a maniac for starting ANOTHER round of the Succession Wars, the things that have pushed society back over four hundred years, just because he thought it'd be funny to troll Max Liao.Don't get me wrong. It IS funny to troll Successor Lords. But there are less psychotic ways to do it.
>>98373384I don't know. Max kidnapping you and trying to make your body double to troll.your country is pretty valid reason to retaliate IMO
>>98373384The best part is that the marriage agreement happened as part of her mum's attempts at preventing another another succ war.
Imagine a Mirror Universe version of Battletech.Grey Death Legion being psychopaths that destroyed the Helm Memory Core that a legitimately benevolent Comstar were trying to get ahold of sorta shit.
>>98373398Yeah... but that was like... a while ago, you know? Plus you're now using that technique to train body doubles of your jailbait wife and at some point in the future your son uses it to Weekend At Bernies another Successor Lords son. The whole thing is a mess frankly.That said, he still not the dumbest motherfucker at that wedding, that's still reserved for the senile fucker who was running ComStar at the time.As I have said, at length, previously... if I was having to host a wedding containing ALL OF THE MAIN CHARACTERS OF THE SETTING. I would simply not offer to host them at the site of my secret, illeagal, star league era, battlemech training facility, and politely offer them somewhere else to get married since I have THE ENTIRE PLANET EARTH AT MY FUCKING DISPOSAL.Like, I know Myndo was a raging cunt with autistically sociopathic tendencies as well, but even she would have been smarter than this.
>>98373433Mirror where Amaris won.
>>98372745I think it's funnier that she could turn him into a pretzel since she's an 80s action girl from the jump infantry and he's just a mechwarrior.
>>98373450A good dude Amaris brought down the utterly monstrous Cameron dynasty and the deranged Alexander Kerensky, but in the process lost so much that he and his forces were pushed out of rather than voluntarily sneaking out of the Inner Sphere due to the Great Houses and the machinations of Jerome Blake - who wanted to create the canon Word of Blake but over the years Comstar turned more benevolent.The remnants of Amaris's forces and the Rim Worlds Republic went Rimwards in their exodus, creating this timeline's mirror of the Clans.
Has anyone else gotten new respect for a mech from the games?I've taken a real liking to the Awesome-8T. On paper the problem of it not being 3 PPCs on legs is pretty obvious but functionally it really fucks. It has hole punchers, crit seekers, enough heat sinks to fire any three of its weapons every turn and alpha strike if you need it. I'm debating shelling out for an IWM mini of it to round out a mercenary lance
>>98373433>Jaime Wolf doesn't have a beard in this universe
>>98373492Blackjack. On paper it's not that impressive, but I kicked ass with the BJ-4. It's not quite powerful enough to be a high priority target but then it hits your speedy jumpers with precision ammo and starts threatening crits on your assault mechs with AP and you realize it's been doing 15+ damage every single turn.
>>98373375Looks like a custom variant of the E swapping the ATMs with LRM 15s.
>>98373492>Has anyone else gotten new respect for a mech from the games?Do you mean vidya or tabletop?If tabletop then Whitworth has grown considerably on me recently. Its not the fanciest, its not the most amazing, but its just downright dependable and usually makes a very good showing whenever I have used one.
>>98373536I've beaten Trebuchets with Whitworths before.
>>98373594And I've beaten a Dire Wolf with a Locust before. Doesn't make the latter better than the former.
Alright, faggots! Challenge time. Make an all-laser, energy build Zombie Mech Whitworth IIC.
>>98373594That wouldn't be a surprising outcome. Treb is slightly faster and has bigger launchers but the Whitworth has slightly more armor, the advantage of JJ's and also becomes a zombie once those launchers run dry.>>98373646Nah I prefer what this anon did >>98360878
>>98373492Kintaro, specifically KTO-18Never paid it any attention until the early days of MWO
My Catapult is now ready to roll
>>98373492Septicemia Prime. I used to think that the only good Society mechs were those which were packing iATMs, and whilst in the main that is true, there is something about the brutal simplicity of a medium mech packing a HAG40 and a TarComp.
>>98373729You too? I was playing around with it recently, and was impressed. The only problem is that it goes Winchester kinda fast, but those HAG-40 shots are brutal.
>>98373621How did you defeat a dire wolf with a locust?
>>98373754I mean, it's not really all that durable, it's a medium mech armed as if it's a heavy, it's going to attract attention, besides, you've still got a CERLL when that happens. The iATM variant feels like trap since that version has multiple improved Heavy Lasers in the hands just waiting to knock the pilot unconcious, and like I said, the thing can't take any kind of punishment.
>>98373763Kick it in the shins. It falls over onto it's bonce, the pilot blacks out. Next turn the Locust kicks it in the head and kills it.
>>98373256>epstein's a tumorBros.......did FASA know?
>>98373717Looks good anon, I frickin love Catapults
>>9837343718 years old is pedo jailbait?
>>98374158Depends on the country, but it's more that Hanse is like almost 50 when they get married, and she's 15. Not 18 in 3025.
>>98373717>>98373863I don't think I'm using Catapults "correctly". I tend to leave them at medium range for fire support but I don't get hits that often (even with a veteran pilot) and their armor goes unused. In next games I'll try moving them to around range 7 to keep the LRM-15's at Short range and actually tank some hits
>>98374172Monarchies throughout history have done arranged marriages for political reasons where there were age disparities. It's presented as a reflection of that historic reality, and nowhere in the fiction is Hanse depicted as a sexual predator, unless you count the non-consensual dicking he gave the Capellans.
>>98374200Remember that if someone tries to get inside your minimum range, that means they want to be kicked.
Why does it feel like, when military formation is used or described, it's either the company, regiment or legion? Not just in BT but also in other games or works. Historic reason?
>>98374248Which I would grant if it had been treated as such and not as some grand love match by the books. And also most of the time that was done to make sure the bride was a virgin and because the average lifespan of even royalty was in the 50's at best.Although... some of that was because kings kept going on dangerous hunting expeditions and starting succession crises when their horse chucked them on their heads. Or deciding that getting involved in the Thirty Years War sounds like a good idea.Protip: It wasn't.
I'm trying to help a friend build a Northwind Highlanders lance appropriate for 3028. I checked the RAT in MegaMek for these mercs and it doesn't even list the Highlander in it. I have to set the year to 3055 for there to be HGN-732 at weight 9. What gives? I thought they were famous for having lots of those machines even in SuccWars?
>>98374335>People underestimate the BlackjackProbably because they keep hearing people saying its bad so they never bother to use it when in reality its quite a strong medium.>>98374384Force Manual Mercenaries might be a better guide to use.
>>98374377A Company is about the smallest thing you'd actually task for meaningful operations and a regiment is the biggest thing where individual characters can matter. In BT, it's also the biggest unit in common use. Brigades only exist as a shared name and armies aren't even a thing in most factions.
>>98374407>Force Manual MercenariesI'm checking that right now. For NH it says:>Even during the Succession Wars, the Highlanders were known for the large number of Highlander BattleMechs in their ranks. Most of these retained their Star League-era weaponry and components well into the Succession Wars>The Northwind Highlanders may add access to the Highlander HGN-733 for 0 FP during the Late Succession WarsThis is a bit confusing as the HGN-733 is not Star League era weaponry and components. It's a downgradeFrom what I gather reading the Faction Point rules, you can add duplicates of the same unit by paying 1 FP per copy of the variant
>>98374441Also: how come MUL doesn't list HGN-733 as being available to Mercenaries then? If it's usable by NH. Is that a blind spot where it doesn't cover specific Merc units unless it's available to all mercs?
>>98374449>TDR-5SE says hi
>>98374460So we found a hole in the MUL apparently because HGN-733 should have Merc availability
>>98374441Yeah it is completely confusing as parts of it do contradict each other. I just use it as a guideline mostly and personally would say that this means if you are playing an introtech match then feel free to go nuts with the 733 Highlander.>>98374449>>98374471MUL is not perfect and Northwind Highlanders are not the only mercs with the issue of not having access to mechs they should have.
>>98374513Reason I bring it up is that I'm the same anon from this post >>98247413 from a month ago. My friend and opponent thought it was legal to field the royal highlander in 3028 for NH precisely because of the blurb about them having Highlanders with Star League era tech well into SuccWarsSo if there are contradictions my case gets shakier about why he can't bring his fancy toys. I think I have to just pull that card of "look buddy Introtech shouldn't have DHS, Ferro-Fibrous, and Artemis IV".I asked if he wanted to play Clan era and he said no lmao. DHS for me but not for thee!
>>98374560Also HGN-732b is only made available to IS after 3068 when the New Dallas Memory Core is found apparently, all the way in the Jihad era. Not even Comstar had more than 5 of those stored away if the MUL is accurate there
>>98374560The CGL combat manuals and later force manuals have been a complete disaster as they have retconned Star League tech from being virtually non existent to constantly appearing where they shouldn't. You can of course abuse this to your advantage.If your friend is being a dick about forcing a Royal Highlander though just play the 21st Centauri Lancers. I am pretty sure he wouldn't have fun facing a lance of what they can bring.
>>98374633>Late in the Third Succession War, the Lancers discovered a hidden Star League cache containing fully-intact Star League Defense Force ’Mechs and tanks. Haskell kept the prize secret, since the Lancers had full salvage rights in their contract. No one outside the command knows what they possess.>The Lancers Command may add access to the BattleMaster BLR-1Gb, Marauder MAD-2R, Stalker STK-3Fb, and Thunderbolt TDR-5Sb for 2 FPs each. At least one-third of the Lancers Command must consist of Grasshoppers, and may ignore the Rare Units rule for a Grasshopper.Oh. Oh baby, that's spicy.
>>98374669Yup they are my go to fuck around and find out option when facing someone he wants to be "that guy"
>>98374335>Then go live Innawoods, Fudd!People have tried that. Why couldn't you just leave them alone fedboy?
>Cute newbie bottom>Scarred, rough dom top HOLY FUCK I WANT TO SEE THEM FUCK SO BAD
>>98374866You could commission an animator I guess. Who knows if someone bothered ripping their in-game models yet
>>98374866>bad modeling in 2026Shameful, even AI renders better than this mutie-looking shit
>>98374866Faggot!I...I'd watch it...:(
>>98374866Rook and Jonathan...
>>98374927I'm not even into dudes and I gotta admit they nail Rook. He's exactly what an Elemental should look like.
>>98374932>If kids didn't want sex, they shouldn't be so sexy.
I see the perverts are out in force now
Well I think having an atranged marriage at 18 makes more sense than being single at 40~50 years old without heir like the 'modern' House Lords and high-ranking nobles
>>98373075Nah the lore is pretty explicit about how close to the edge the Fedsuns was before Kentares, best case scenario they'd have shattered like the FWL did post-Jihad.
>>98374970I do, in fact, frequent Lord Barth's auctions, true
>>98374866If Battletech was successful as an IP it would have a vibrant rule34 scene.
>>98375053Rule 34 works when nobody's actually fucking in the source; BT has never shied away from rampant canonical sex, it's a fallow field for artist muses
>>98375071Battletech fluff is surprisingly horny for a series that's mostly wooden milsf pulp.
>>98375087What's the horniest BT story
>>98375143There's a more boning than you remember in the first Thurston CJF novel. There's probably some stuff in the Canopian stuff, especially for the RPGs.
>>98374970"Republican" starts with an R, not a P.
>>98375143The Spider and The Wolf was gooned to numerous times
>>98373505Like a lot of IS mechs, it suffers from not having been rebuilt with clantech yet. Wolf's goons? Got a bunch of unarmed ones? and promptly started building the BJ C with 2 clpl and 2cssrm4 to absolutely mong everything.There the BJ 0 which has an lac5 version...But there's no BJ-12S/10S etc that's got a clan xlfe, clan endo, in order to mount a pair of cuac5's and 4 cermlas. In a 5/8/5.
>>98375143
>>98373717Katapult > Catapult
Give me the actually good JagermechsLike, better than any Rifleman good
>>98375210None of them. Jagermech is a failed design they mucked up trying to replace the Rifleman. Lancelot is a closer replacement, but even it couldn't surpass the GOAT AA GOD.
What's the longest (turn-wise) game of Battletech you've ever played? Or heard someone else played?Wondering if ever in the history of the game a player has ran out of ammo on one of them bins that has like 45 shots. Seems like kind of dead weight. Then again I've only played Introtech so maybe some crazy shit applies in later eras that lets you go DAKKA DAKKA with those
>>98375231i still remember the time a newish player brought a rifleman to an LGS pickup game where the opponent brought vtolshe was so sure he was going to have the edge until he realized the anti-air bonuses don't actually exist unless you're playing with quirks (which they weren't)his rifleman was laughably ineffective against the enemy air assets and he was sad
>>98375210JM6-D4 is arguably the best one I can think of where there isn't really a Rifleman that matches it. Only others I can make an argument are basically glass cannons but can be powerful in right circumstances.
when do you bring a blackjack vs a rifleman?
>>98375255Did he not even bring flak?
>>98375210JM6-DDa with the newly buffed AP ammo. Crit machine with TC that's only 911BV
>>98375273When you want something with JJ or want to get frisky with flamers, though even then I struggle to see why when presented the option between a Rifleman and BJ-1DB why you would take the Rifleman? Frankly the only Riflemen in introtech worth a shit are the 2N and 3C.
>>98375274IS doesn't get LB's until later I think, which are the only ones that can equip Cluster ammo for Flak attacks
>>98375306Precision as well can be nasty. Just a shame it is a glass cannon.>>98375326AC Flak ammo is a thing anon?
>>98375332I don't doubt you're right but where does it say this in the rulebooks? In Total Warfare I didn't find an entry for Flak Ammo, only Cluster Ammo which can be used by LB's only and has a Flak effect
>>98375343Honestly not sure why it isn't in Total Warfare. Its legit one of the oldest alt ammunition types in Battletech history.
Not-So-Total Warfare didn't have the same ring to it
more like partial warfare
>>98375408Careful now I think you might be giving CGL name ideas for the next rulebook.
If you want a quick reference for a weapon and where the source is on it to find rules for say different ammo types I highly suggest https://mordel.net/equipment.php?a=vClick on say an SRM launcher and it'll give stats but also all the ammo available for said launcher and what page of a book it is on. Really handy.
>>98375210The ilclan jaegermech is pure assfucking rape.JM7-DDA pair of IS LAC5A pair of CUAC10.A pair of IS ERMLAS.unfortunately still dangerous to user thanks to IS XLFE 4/6. But it DOES come with >90% armour coverage for a change!
Does battletech have robots? Specifically sex androids?
>>98375647No, coomer
>>98375037Yes the lore is clear that the DC was near its limits anyway hence why a counterattack instantly shattered them. They didn't even reach New Avalon, the Fedsuns weren't gonna collapse.
>>98375421Thanks anon this is very handy>>98375374>>98375343>>98375332>Page 129If a unit mounts any weapons and/or equipment not found here, or on the appropriate Weapons and Equipment tables (see p. 303), then the weapon/equipment in question is either advanced (not appropriate for standard tournament play) and is covered in Tactical Operations: Advanced Units & Equipment or Interstellar Operations: Alternate Eras, or has no direct impact on BattleTech game play, only affecting construction (such weapons and/or equipment that are not considered advanced are described in TechManual).TL;DR it's Advanced rules therefore not standard for tournament play and TW is standard-only
>>98375757 (Me)Weird thing is BMM definitely has rules for fire/smoke spread, and I did not find those in TW, so I guess those are advaanced. I thought BMM was meant to be fully encompassed by TW, guess not
Even something like the Imperial Guards transfer sheet would be too big for the mechs, right?
Given that the Aerospace Assets rule will be on the new Core rulebook, I'm pretty sure that the Flak ammo made into the base rule
>>98375781Wrong scale for minis, but would work on mapscale dropships
>>98375768BMM includes some rules from TO where they're relevant specifically to Battlemech slug-fests.I'll admit I'm a little annoyed going through and finding that Flak is indeed absent, but in lore at the very least Flak was depreciated some; precisely because cluster was a lot better at it.On that note, holy shit without Quirks there's no Rifleman that can do its job in the inner sphere before FedCom.
>>98375890>without Quirks there's no Rifleman that can do its job in the inner sphere before FedComSad Rifleman Noises
>>98375890The Rifleman is shit. News at 11.
>>98375973Fuck you, boot. Graham Noton
What other mechs have a case of Load Bearing Quirks?ie if you don't play with Quirks, bringing the mech at all is questionable
>>98375647Any robot is a sex robot if you're horny enough.
Will this be big enough for the Box of Doom to be used with 12mm dice?
>>9837608212mm is roughly 0.5 inches, so a pair of dice is almost 1 inch.
>>98376021Jagermech has the same problem if you want to use it as an anti-air unit.Pandarus with its flattened range modifiers since it doesn't move fast enough to control range and almost everything will be medium, long, or minimum (which it still can't control even with quirks)The Marauder doesn't rely on its quirks, but becomes significantly better when they're in play. In the rare instances where a MAD 4X is on the field, quirks make it go from +10 to +4 heat when firing both blazers on a run. You can even alpha strike without risking shutdown.
>>98376082I dislike this one on the basis that it is 24 slots and that doesn't match up nicely with attacks>>98367587Personally what I did was buy mini dice (5mm) and these https://www.amazon.com/Jewelry-Organizer-Adjustable-Removable-Containers/dp/B075F1FL47That way you get 4 maracas with 10 slots each and which are roughly beer-can sized. The worst case scenario is an LB 20-X where all pellets hit, which is 20. So 2 maracas will fully solve the attack. You can give the other 2 maracas to the other team so you don't have to share.You roll normally on the table for whatever cluster attack you're doing (2 pairs, one for to-hit and one to determine cluster size). If you get a hit, you check the cluster size and this will determine how many grids in the maracas you will use. For example, imagine you hit all 20 pellets on n LB 20-X. Well, all those pellets are in clusters of 1, so all 20 grids are used. Each grid tells you 3 things: white dice say hit location. If it happens to be a possible crit, black dice tell you if it's an actual crit. If the crit went through, the red dice tell you where to check on the crit table (I take first 1d6 to be the closest to the top left corner). If you're doing something simpler like an LRM-20 and you get 20 hits, well that's only 4 grids to pay attention to because the attack clusters in 5's. If you hit a crit on Roll Again, you could use the dice on dead grids to see which one actually hits something.I plan on adding black adhesive foam to mine to make it quieter, but I haven't done it yet.
>>98376129(By "grid" I mean "cell". I'm sleepy)
>>98375647>Specifically sex androids?Yes actually.
>>98376129Holy Toyama 120 dice for LBX20 then?
>>98376159That's rightYou can downgrade it to 1 pair per cell, which would only require 40 dice...but it'll be a pain in the ass big enough to make you question why you even bothered (seeing as you'd have to write down all hit locations before shaking the thing again to check for crits)
>>98376163I mean I just went with two pairs per cell, and then just roll crit checks and locations as they come up with a regular pair of d6s.
>>98376163The good news is they sell those little shits in bulk for cheap.I got these but you can probably go even cheaper on AliExpress or something, they're the samehttps://www.amazon.com/dp/B0G4BLGRXMFair warning, some number of them will have defects, but since that pack is 500 and it's 100 per color, you're going to get the ones you need>>98376166Sure that works too, I just don't like switching back and forth on that. Figured if I was already bothering to do this, might as well go all the way
just found out the new boxes have the same maps as agoac/beginner box but with updated artwas it that hard to design new maps
>>98376304Explain why different maps are necessary.
no thanks i'm not falling for ragebait
>>98376344I accept your concession
>>98376354Concession Connor spotted.
>>98375647>Does battletech have robots?Yes, as per Ghosts of Obeedah we've even got Robot Battle Armor units!>sex androids Also yes, but that's less interesting.
>>98375332>>98375343>>98375374God the ammo in BT is painful to me as a crew-served weapons enthusiast. The generic default autocannon ammo is apparently HEAP (a technology that was invented in the 19th century and peaked during WWII) tandem-charge warheads didn't exist at all in BT until 28th century (the reactive armor they were intended to defeat didn't exist until the Dracs invented it in the 3060s btw) and didn't see action in the IS until ~300 years later during the invasion and AP ammo was invented by FedRats in the 3050s. It just gets worse the more you dig, too.>Tracers were invented in the 24th century [14th century/antiquity]>Incendiary ammo was invented sometime in the AoW by the FedRats [WWI]>"""Precision ammunition""" was invented in the 3060s [WWII]I mean damn. Apparently fusion reactors are easy enough but DU penetrators were-Oh wait lol the Mechbuster in TRO:3026 explicitly fires a four-round burst of "hypervelocity depleted uranium penetrators" from an AC/20.>>98375647>Specifically sex androids?That's what Canopians are for.>Sucky sucky 5 c-bills art school is free here you know
>>98376400Trying Too Hard.
>>98376425>The generic default autocannon ammo is apparently HEAPProbably intended to work like MPAT, but that hadn't been developed when BT was written.
>>98375207Is this a reference I don't understand?
>>98376520Kurita-Pult
>>98376526I don't like the look of Catapults without the LRMs.just looks wrong.
>>98376529>weapons unmountedHuh, you can do that with omnimechs? I thought the pods thing is that you can exchange whole body part (arms, torso) that has pre-installed set of weapons at a time, not individual weapon basis
>>98376529That bigass thing runs at a bit under 55mph. The old scale made more sense given the concrete speeds provided. Most assault mechs would be absolutely comically plodding. Mechs really should be smaller.
>>98376562Damn, dude, you might be retarded.
>>98375757>Advanced equipmentYeah which is kind of retarded since flak rounds have been referenced forever.>>98375768There's a lot of stuff regarding smoke and fire that is getting moved to the core rulebook so things like LRM smoke will no longer be considered advanced.>>98375890With quirks the Hatchetman makes a better AA mech.>>98376425A lot of things we take for granted as being known about were not exactly common knowledge in the 80's so I can forgive slightly on that. The issue I tend to have is when they try to explain how certain things work their explanations make zero sense, one of my favorites from the early days being that air friction cooled you down.
>>98376562The omnipod system and construction rules are extremely flexible; the reason you may have an impression like that is that under standard rules the Clans field entire variant load-outs identical to Inner Sphere chassis variants; with the added note that the logistics of changing the Omni from one letter loadout to another is massively simplified by the omnipods.Under advanced construction and refit rules, Omnis are a tweaker's dream with the entire pod space open for customization, mixing and matching in very short order. It's also expensive as fuck as all the equipment has a cost multiplier to be made pod-compatible.The best analogy for omnipods and pod space is it's literally like a desktop PC case: All the brackets and holes are available in the mech to wire whatever plugs you need into whatever gear you're asking for. Everything slots and screws in to standardized mountings to the point that you can literally take everything out, clean/repair/replace everything and slap it back together and start it back up.You can think of working on regular battlemechs as being more like a car mechanic. Parts are specialized and aftermarket bits and bobbles need to have brackets riveted in or welded on to fit where they go; if it doesn't fit one way, your Mechtech swears up a storm and figures out how to slot it in sideways and a couple days to a week later he's got it figured.
BEHOLD! The various weaponry of the omni-weedwacker.
>>98376803Omni melee weapon.
>Called omnitech>Doesn't produce a single omni
>opponent only runs clanners>use numbers to group shot/bait>roll lower than avg with a spike or two>I haven't lost a single mech or game yet>even when he runs Custom+TC tricknologyI'm worried I may need to take a dive soon...>pic related: lance chu-i seeing a clanner die to MRMs
>>98376651>Hatchetman AAThat is the most random bullshit ever. Had never noticed that quirk
What do you guys use to mark objectives on the map?
>>98376969Imagine getting shot down by a thrown hatchet.
>>98376969>>98377072Imagine the Hatchetman dropping first and taking out your airforce with its hatchet.
>>98376653I'd probably compare omnipods to a fighter jet vs a tank. An Abrams can't swap its gun in any meaningful timeframe and even swapping a .50 to a 7.62 mg would be fairly annoying, but an F-15 can be kitted out for air superiority with AMRAAMs, land, get fitted with a bunch of gbus and some sidewinders, land, and be kitted out with anti-radiation missiles for wild weasel missions.The way I view omnimech variants is that they're the most common loadouts, but literally nothing stops you from slapping some LRM 20s in the torso if there's room or a battery of medium pulse lasers in the arm, it's just not one of the standard loadouts.Mechanically however omnimechs always felt pointless because the ease of swapping pods isn't really represented in games. Maybe use a houserule that one omnimech can swap loadouts before a battle as long as it stays under the point limit so you could turn your brawler into a sniper or missile boat when you realize that the enemy can outrange and kite your biggest mech.
Princess really loves focusing down Manticores for some reason
When the new rulebook is released?
>>98377270Tomorrow 10am BST
>>98376969Supposedly it's a function of the full head ejection system requiring advanced aero movement calculations that also happen to be useful for calculating the movement of other flying things, but they never explain why this doesn't apply to every other unit with a full head ejection system.
>>98377439Original TRO says it has nothing to do with the ejection system but the battle computer they installed. There is no explanation why they choose this particular system I can find though seems to be a quite common system getting used on the Barghest, Bushwacker and Nightsky. Advanced anti-aero targeting doesn't seem to be an inherent trait of the system but more down to how they mounted it on the chassis. Maybe someone felt that the Hatchetman could try and jump at aircraft and swat them out the sky, who knows?
>>98377214>Mechanically however omnimechs always felt pointless because the ease of swapping pods isn't really represented in games.It's mostly a campaign thing; Omnipods take maybe hours for refits that could be days or weeks on a regular Battlemech.
Table!
>>98377968>IS forces encountering a Mad Cat during Operation Bulldog
>>98377558It's a Team Banzai machine. They 100% did that.
>>98375255>>98375890This is exactly why they're changing anti-air to be the only vanilla game quirk, unless there's others I've missed. Quirks are a mess but there's absolutely no reason a canon anti-air mech should entirely suck dick at anti-air forever just because no one had the foresight to make it an actual part in construction.You're supposed to give it as a freebie because it literally cannot do its job otherwise.
>>98377558Despite the name, the Hathetman's main weapon is actually the autocannon, which does get flak ammo and is commonly used in AA mechs like the Rifleman and Jaegermech. When it was originally statted, the hatchet was a purely cosmetic detail, with the shaft actually being a barrel of a medium laser and the blade a heat sink.
Should Xotl have buffed punching even further, so the players have reason to punch instead of kick? If so, how?
>>98373437>As I have said, at length, previously... if I was having to host a wedding containing ALL OF THE MAIN CHARACTERS OF THE SETTING. I would simply not offer to host them at the site of my secret, illeagal, star league era, battlemech training facility, and politely offer them somewhere else to get married since I have THE ENTIRE PLANET EARTH AT MY FUCKING DISPOSAL.It gets dumber. It was hosted on Hilton Head Island because that is the capital complex of Comstar.So Comstar had all of Earth to setup their secret Battlemech training facility, and they put it at the one spot on the planet people are guaranteed to be going to for any business with Comstar's leadership if they were to ever set foot on Terra.
What if we have Agent 47 the Assassin battlemech?
>>98378011The table has passed the sniff test. This table is big enough to just leave games set up on it, was nicer than the previous one, and cheap too.
>>98378719No battlemech is that bald.
>>98377558>Maybe someone felt that the Hatchetman could try and jump at aircraft and swat them out the sky, who knows?I don't remember where I read it, but it came about because someone saw the big ball thing on tbe side of its head and decided it was an advanced radar. So it came from the art.
>Hobby examines the precarious predicament his Javelin is in. He knows that the difference between glory and ruin is as thin as a cat's whisker.
>>98377724Campaigns don't matter. If something isn't usable at a pickup game at my LGS, it doesn't need to be in the system. The boomers who have free time to play big campaigns died out years ago.
>>98379064that's a big table
>>98379064Come on Ignacio, bring it home for all the little niños.
MOVE YOUR ASS, FAGGOT!!!>>98379212>>98379212>>98379212>>98379212
>>98379133For you.
>>98378425Jesus fucking christ. Like... having a small hidden team of mechs there in case one of the Successor Lords tries a smash and grab regime change or something would makes sense... but the entire Training, maintenance and construction facilities?It's weird to me that WoB DIDN'T do this when supposedly they're the crazies. At least when Operation SCOUR happened, they had to hit multiple key locations across the globe, not just one big one. Also... at the very least, I would probably tell my mechwarriors they could have the week off from training whilst all of the Dignitaries were there. Maybe... if we want to be actually sensible... MOVE ALL OF THE INCRIMINATING STAR LEAGUE BATTLEMECHS OFF THE FUCKING ISLAND AND STATION THEM IN DROPSHIPS NEARBY AS A RAPID REACTION FORCE IF NEEDS BE!?Like... he didn't even tell them to stop training! And it's not like it's just one old senile fucker in charge being the issue either. NOBODY in the 1st Circuit seemed to have said anything about this! Sure Waterly didn't want the wedding to go ahead at all in the first place, but that was nothing to do operational security and everything to do with the fact that she was a massive bitch who seemed to think ComStar was a secret Successor State and should act as such.
