Work in Progress, "I Promise to Paint More This Week!" Edition>Full-on /WIP/ OP Links Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/BE42AEcD>WIP Tutorial Images Megahttps://mega.nz/#F!TvQFCaLb!w8WZKCcOsTRasxrI0JWezw>Saint Duncan's "Six Things I Wish I Knew When I Started Painting"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufP8ka3KGno>Saint Duncan also explains thinning your paintshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxWgsqSf74s>Paint thinning 102https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBDVPoNXyVI>4 EASY Chipping Tricks For Beginnershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku4comhKHJM>Decal Like a Prohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYKLiEW7p9c>How to Edge Highlighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoRbYuAfbEk>How to use contrast style paintshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhholrozptI>How to Paint with Tremorshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqp76vAJu9g>Airbrush Priming and Thinninghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkntrSBvXxEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGjBQzoukFghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00JVUxABe44https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEqT_R41JX8>Be the hunter and the hunted>Keep your target in your sight>Don't be side-tracked or shunted>Let pretenders feel your bitehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewbJElIwFnk>Who's Johnny, she'd say, and smile in her special wayhttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/JohnnyPrevious threads:>>98864322>>98854197>>98836253
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Since the terrain general's not around right now, I'll ask here: does anyone know of a source of vulcanised horsehair/furnace filter/comparable material in the UK? I want to use it instead of coir because that shit gets everywhere and is way too fine.
>>98881398rip, i got a box of the plastics in transit now and shes a beaut to pad it out. i should just drop the 5 for it>>98881349the camo pants are unreal good. just brush control and patience? or did you use some tech
>>98881530Yee glad to see more anons joining the spacenam gang. Btw the sgt. Hawker STL is on sale for three fiddy on the reptilian overlords website if you've got a 3d printerRegarding the camo pants, it's all painted normally. No special tech. Just took a good look at some reference and came up with a relatively easy recipe, I got it right here. Oh and thx btw!>VGC Dark Green (basecoat)>50:50 Dark Green/VMC Intermediate Green (brush highlight)>AP Fanatic Oak Brown (fat lines and blobs)>50:50 AK Olive Green/VMC Ice Yellow (smaller blobs and lines)>AK Tenebrous Grey (tiny blobs and lines)>Mix black and raw umber oil wash>Apply on pants>>98881445Yeah I've been less active this year, mostly lurking besides posting some stuff here and there like those inner circle companions a few days ago. Oh and you definitely should continue on your dudes anon, those tau kitbashes you did on them were super sick. Paintjob and basing was really good too, absolutely loved what you did with them
I used bigger, rectangular armour plates instead of spare shields this time.
>>98881614not really sure what am i looking at here but why not it has potential
>>98881614Much better, just need to get that one barrel in line with the others, that's going to hurt the end look more than anything else.
>>98881614were you able to find any real life references of spaced armor being on top of a cage stuck directly onto the hull?
>>98881614Better definitely, but now the problem is that the design language does not match. The entire vehicle is about sharp edges, all the armor is sharp-edged, too. The armor you've added is extremely rounded.
>>98881846Is that not the point? Some old hunk of shit being upgraded with violently clashing aesthetics from later times?
>>98881483Out of curiosity, how many people from each country/continent?
>>98881870Well no. Hunk of shit is not gonna get anything fancy, it will be roughly-cut rolled steel, no advanced machining. Why it would have round edges (=less coverage + more work)?
>>98881826It's plastic and the parts in this kit are very fiddly, any tips on how to align it properly?>>98881827No, unfortunately. I am willing to chalk this error to a compromise to make the model a more robust gaming piece.>>98881846One step forward, two steps back. Next time I think I'll just use plasticard which already has tiles in it, would remove many extra steps from the process.
>>98881870>>98881897I intend to run it next to space marines and stargrave minis. Still need to make the main guns into some sort of energy weapons.
>>98881909>One step forward, two steps back.Admittedly, you picked a very difficult model to begin with - the shape is extremely recognizable, and the size does not allow much play either. Keep it at it, anon, kitbashing is always a steep learning process.
>>98881870what is it supposed to be? can you sketch it? can you describe it in a sentence or two? here is a real life uparmored tank. it had an experimental gun which added those tube things on the turret and 5 tons of extra salvaged armor welded onto the front it. I don't even know what your model is supposed to be. why does it have wire fencing stuck to it? why would something that looks like a self propelled aa gun have so much extra armor anyway? it just seems like you had that material lying around and were determined to use it no matter what.
>>98881935Sci-fi tank destroyer with improvised armour.
>>98881614>>98881982I think you should remove the recoilless rifles and replace them with one huge weapon on the side (plasma?) and build around that - it will give you a lot of playing field with greebles like cables, power packs, etc. It would also help to make the vehicle more yours and less recognizable.
>>98882001Bold idea! What parts would you suggest for that?
>>98881982why havent you glued the tracks on yet and where did that model even come fromand dont take it so seriously im looking forward to what that thing will look like in the end
>>98882025He just told you the parts he suggests for that
>>98881982I'm just going to say it since you can't take the hint. stop gluing random shit to your model. if you aren't going to use the net to make a cope cage or a camo net don't use it at all. look at real life examples of uparmored vehicles and try to copy what they look like. you can change it a little to make it look more sci-fi, but it should still be obvious to anyone looking what it is without you having to explain your vision. you can use thick rectangles of plasticard for applique armor or you can cut it into smaller shapes to look like era bricks. if you want it to look like a tank destroyer give it a big gun that looks like it could destroy a tank. cut a hole in it and make it a casemate gun like the jagdpanther.
>>98882050I don't mind the critique really. I appreciate that people speak their minds freely here instead of blowing smoke up my ass. The kit is academy's 1/35 scale m50a1 Ontos. I chose it because if the six barrels and also because it's pretty close to 40k predators and rhinos in size. Haven't glued the tracks on yet because my son insisted that they ought to be done last since they're already black. I should glue them later this week.
>>98881609thanks for the recipe. ill be giving it a try, more detail then i usually put in but i really like these boys. >>98881398i do really like these bases. making catachan or any jungle feel more alien is what id like to do
>>98881872>Out of curiosity, how many people from each country/continent?23 Americans (including APO)6 UK (England, Scotland, Northern Ireland)2 Australia2 Canada2 Germany2 Sweden1 Belgium1 Croatia1 Japan1 Latvia1 Lithuania1 Mexico1 Netherlands1 Singapore1 Ukraine
>>98882197man i would have guessed maybe 5 fron finland but zero
>>98882210Suomi prööt
>>98882197interesting. if we assume the signups are representative of the thread population in general about half of the posters are american. I can't believe this many of my countrymen have had their language colonized by jewtubers with goofy esl accents.
>>98882210finland isnt real, sorry buddy. no tooth fairy, no easter bunny, maybe a queen of england soon
>>98882197Gotta add some Poland representation then, I'm still a little afraid, however.
>>98882266Its extremely low participation numbers this year, but as far as i remember, its always been at least 50% americans participating.No clue if you really can take participation percentages as an indicator to real thread population percentages. Maybe americans just love christmas and secret santa, but the 500 indians itt do not?
>>98882281>Gotta add some Poland representation then, I'm still a little afraid, however.If you have specific concerns, anon, there are some slots in the form to address them.
>Finish base coating a model>Lose interest in doing any moreHow do I get past that? Basecoating is the most fun part about painting to me, seeing a model go from no color to color is more of a rush than adding tedious layering / highlights / shading.
>>98882335then do not do what you dont like, and apply basecoats to the next model of your army.
>>98882335if you don't wanna do more then don't. if you only way to do base colors but you want your models to look better just add more detail colors and do an enamel/oil wash at the end.
>>98882367i just started using weathering powders and they work like magic by skipping actual painting steps
>>98882335
>>98882293Its because Americans are bold and brazen, and Europeans are usually little timid sissies like this guy >>98882281
>>98881483I love seeing this every year. It's so sweet that a bunch of anons get each other gifts and apparently nothing ever goes wrong because of some schizo.
is there a reason you stayed at tabletop quality anonyou could be really great and celebrated painter by now if you just tried you know
>>98882754Because I actually play games and it's more valuable for me to have finished playable models than taking weeks to finish one dude
>>98882293As a European outside of the EU I'm not joining simply cuz of the cost of shipping and taxes
>>98882770t. Poorfag
>>98882770You will never be a European, Mustafa
i like painting these models and i like learning about history by proxyyou never really remember the names of all those historical tanks, guns and units playing vidya but as soon as you paint them it all clicks
>>98881614Don't know but something about your design just doesn't work, Personally I would start overAnd netting beneath plates absolutely not
>>98882210Finns are all talk no action type people, they can do anything and do it really well, just ask them they will tell you -they just never do ie can't
>>98882770What's the cost?I'm from Australia and asked not to be paired with Australia or rich countries cos I don't want to give them stuff
>>98882617It's funny that you people actually believe this. It's like judging Americans by Californian standards.
>>98882894sounds about right
>>98882894>>98882210>why is the most asocial nation on earth not engaging in my social activity The mystery of ages.
I know I'm just postponing the painting of the big lad until I'm sure about which color scheme to use, but those little goobers are fun to paint.
>>98883034Well it's mostly true, because stereotypes and national characteristics are true and found deep in the blood. Though judging Americans by Californian is a bit silly because Californians are 95% foreigners.
>>98883121What are these little guys haha
>>98883121i like the overly happy little frog
>>98883134We're literally the same blood, silly. No it's not mostly true, if you go to the European countryside you see the same rough people as the rural US. If you go to uptown Paris or London, you find the same yuppie scrum you find in uptown NY or LA.
>>98883139Critters from the "Kingdom Death" boardgame, here's a picture with their (yet to be painted) mama.
>>98883134>>98883183last night i watched some youtube game retrospective and i remember how the dude had a fit about how everyone outside of the states thinks new york is in los angelesi mean i think like that too by default unless someone actually points it out
>>98883220Never hard that one before. I just named some cities known for rich yuppie neighborhoods.
What does WIP think of varied color schemes? Trying to make my Red Corsairs look like they looted and/or came from different chapters. Is this too busy?
>>98883425Second pic, also I used contrast paints.
>>98883425yeah, looks too busy. Its a solid idea, i think if you lean more into either several parts but one legion, or single part multi legions.
>>98883425Yes, way too busy.
>>98883425im sure it sounds really cool and works like that in the lorebut irl really it just looks pretty horrible mishmash of bullshit thrown together
Anybody tried using real blood on their minis? Was thinking of cutting open my finger to add real splatter to my Angron's axe / sword.
>>98883490nope and inb4 someone will eventyally post the anon who put shit in they them whatever nurgle paints
>>98882799>>98882820>>98882904Norwegian lol. Don't remember the exact cost but my wife's Italian and the price of shipping xmas presents to her parents was dreadful
im finnish by the way if you didnt already get that
I did his little goggles. I originally wanted to red lenses, but went blue to go with the gold a bit better (maybe).To others asking in the last thread, he's just a basic boy from the Armageddon set, though with war biker head. Once I get a few boyz figured out, I'll work on nob or a boss
>>98883490iirc there was a guy here who used a real rat skull as a knight head.
If I wanted to affix a dismembered hand to something, would it look like shit if it was a clean cut at about the wrist with no gore or bone poking out? I'm brainstorming small things I could use to cover up an unsightly piece on a model conversion and so far the best candidates I can think of are a rose (like a symbol of the Amethyst College or Morr) or a dismembered hand nailed in place.>pic related it's the purity sealIgnore the skull wedged into the wheel it's probably not staying.
Got the next batch ready to prime. Space Marine Company Heroes, captain, lieutenant, apothecary, and a bunch of old metal guys.
>>98883611anon you already have copper wire at handjust use that to make the 2 bones sticking out from the hand stump and cover the rest with blood
>>98883509>xmas That's CHRISTmass to you, Muhammad.
>>98883525I'll finish when I damn well please, miss
>>98883627Cringe.
>>98883627Ironically, even Muslims have more respect for Jesus than the self hating northern Europeans
>>98883627I'm probably whiter than you, eat my ass. And no, it's called Jul for me if we're gonna be pedantic about it
>>98883627>>98883782You've been drinking again, craftsperg?
>>98883425Maybe if you pick a single color and "loot" only from that.>>98883782Not my religion. Christianity is just some middle eastern religion brought here by the Romans.
Made a plasma gun for my leman russ. Needs a lot of cleanup but I think it looks alright.
>>98883804>whiter You wish chode
>>98883878Im gonna kill myself
>>98883804Cute doggo
>>98883804Don't kid yourself, your black to white ratio looks pretty much 50:50.But at least you have enough courtesy to not dox your handler's face.
>>98883804>>98883881Selfie posting in my favorite type of online argumentation. Makes me laugh every time
>>98883884Nice wip anon, but wrong thread? Post your selfie
>>98883922kek took me a second to get it>>98883920Ty, he's a good boy>>98883881We've pretty much got the same complexion, pipe down retard
>>98883627retarded chrigger, go learn what the x means, and remember you are not a persecuted minority
>>98883881Real clever, no ai will ever bust that...
>>98883884>archmagus how should we attach the bfg pattern plasma cannon to the tank?>I don't know subcogitor just weld a servo arm to the top of the hull or something
>>98884020I don't care too much to be honest! It was posted in lighthearted banter with norway bro
>>98883881>>98883804 Girls, girls, you're BOTH whiter than Jesus
Started printing an FDM Tomb Kings army for OPR.
>>98884562Literally everything about this is unappealing
>>98884581post selfie
>>98881827>>98881935>>98882102>>98882879Based on many of these comments, I'll order a selection of textures plasticard sheets like pic related and redo the additional armour plates. But I think I can still have netting with armour plates to protect the tracks? Will keep you updated with the results. Hopefully I'll have time to work on the kit later this week.
>>98884562My friend group also plays OPR. How do you like it?
>>98884410Jesus was brown
>>98884690NTA, but I've had fun with the game. You should use many of the advanced rules, as the basic version gets old very quickly.
>>98884581Nigga, I'm done painting overdetailed GW armies that need 500 minis.>>98884690>>98884696Basically this. I'm mainly switching to OPR because I want to rope in my kids with the simpler rules.
>>98884724What the hell are you taking about? There isn't a single GW game that has more than like two dozen models in an "army"
>>98884798Based Custodes player
>>98883884not enough weaponsthat hunter killer could do with a co-axial autocannon
>>98881483Genuinely super excited about it
>>98884798Wha? That's like two units for me in 40k.
>>9888229346 people is low participation?Seems like quite a lot.If I had to guess, I'd say every 10th or so anon participates in the secret santa.
>>98884938At some point there were 150+ participants.
>>98884965Holy moly.Well, the economy is rather bad right now? I don't know. I am rather surprised by this number!I always greatly enjoyed watching the posts that said "Hey, I got this and that!"
>>98884965>>98884973im finnish so i make a big number about participating but i wont actually do it
>>98884980Perkele!
>>98884686(((Gsw)))find a better company
ww2 models are not really liked here but i finished some nebelwerfers
>>98885330Nicely presented, but holy hell those proportionsIf it wasn't for the cartoon rifles I'd think this was kindersoldaten
>>98885363thank youmy first time painting 15mm and while the proportions might seem a little wonky its actually pretty hard to tell what unit is armed with what from a tabletop distance when you are used to 28mm
>>98885363Chonkiness is required at 15mm 2bh, PSC and wargames factory both did infantry in a less heroic style and it didn't really work>>98885438>its actually pretty hard to tell what unit is armed with what from a tabletop distanceI havnt played FoW since 3rd, but arent most infantry armed the same stuff? I remember almost every base being either a rifle, rifle/MG or MG team and special weapons either went on their own 2-man mini bases or were so distinct you could tell them apart quite easily
>>98885438>>98885690I picked a bad word, the proportions of the minis are cartoonish but the nebelwerfer is monstrously large (and the rockets really small)
>>98885690havent read the rules yet but i will get back to you when i finish these armies in 2 months>>98885725its okay and there actually is a 30mm neberlwerfer but i doubt it has tires the size of a grown man
>>98885751i meant 30cm as in 300mm ofcourse
>>98885751The really big ones couldn't really be mistaken for the littler ones
>>98885767i will be playing with military autists, it was the whole reason for this project to get them into tabletop gaming first thing i have to teach them is what is a proxy modelsorry for siderailing the thread
>>98885725I like how they removed the wheels, it instantly communicates "ve had issues mit de recoil"
>>98886061recoil? it's just rockets in a hollow tube. more likely it's late in the war and they didn't have any working wheels.
New painter here>Apply wash >This looks like shit everything is muddy now, better dry brush some highlights >Fuck I drybrushed over some of the details, better reapply the wash >repeat from step 1. Why am I like this? Picrel thunderbolt I ruined
>>98884798>See, it's just twelve modelsYou really got me there, anon.
>>98886417Because you are new and everyone is bad at the start. My first minis were not exactly better.There is nothing wrong with drybrushing over details, if you go all over the model this is pretty much unavoidable. You can pick smaller brush for that but why not just paint over details and just then after you are done with main colour? You can always just pin wash those details again, no point in going all over entire mini.
>>98886417you most likely put the basecoat on too thick so the wash pooled in the wrong places and not just in the recessestry few thinner coats next time
>>9888623843 in italy, but I suppose it's possible, and they do look terribly young and in ill fitting uniformsmy guess would be the wheels were getting in the way of training the thing, since they're pretty fat on the big ones
>>98886417Oil washes and enamel panel liners circumvent all of this bullshit. I've pretty much only used acrylic washes for bases after getting into oils and enamels, they're that much better for most use cases
Some of mentioned first minis so you won't feel too bad - zero highlighting, just some wash and drybrushing that went over details in lots of places.One day you will take a look at your first, then at your current ones and say "man, that was a journey".
>>98886436Thanks anon. Should I buy some actual dedicated washes as well? Right now I’m just using regular paint thinned way down. >>98886457Yeah you’re probably right about that. I was getting aggravated trying to base coat it since I primed it in black which was really showing through the tan paint so I said fuck it and just slathered it on.
>>98886492Well, acrylic washes are not exactly just thinned down paint, they usually have additional flow improving stuff in them to better flow into recesses. It's good to have few, nothing too fancy, you probably won't need more than black, dark brown and maybe flesh. About what >>98886482 says about oil washes, you can technically make them out of oil paints and white spirit and while it is quite useful thing to have, I would suggest sticking to acrylic ones for a time being. They require little different approach and dry much slower (2-3 days usually) so they are not for beginners.
>>98881477I painted this today, I am happy with the face, I am not happy with the coatDoes anyone know why my paintjob looks so chalky? is it because I thin with water instead of medium?I use a mix of armypainter warpaints fanatics, DRPA TTC and Tone Pro
>>98886515Are you sure this is not the phone making mess with your pictures? Usually chalkiness means that either surface was chalky to begin with or paint was dried up.
>>98886515What primer are you using?
>>98886482not really an oil painter but ive had this can for ages and decided to try it on these flames of war modelsgotta say its pretty cool how you can work with it for so long but unfortunately have to wait until the next day to finish and before that you have to matte varnish them toogreat results though
>>98886510>They require little different approach and dry much slower (2-3 days usually) so they are not for beginners.NTA, but this is one of the worst memes that's currently out there. I'm not attacking you, anon, but this general nonsense. Why are oils/enamels not for beginners? Virtually every single thing about them is much simpler and forgiving to beginners compared to acrylics. And you don't even have to wait 2-3 days. Either buy premade enamel washes, which dry overnight (=they are safe to varnish or work over if you are careful), or mix your own oil washes with drying accelerator medium. Enamel wash:>varnish beforehand (it's not needed, but it's a good practice)>apply either as a pinwash or just slob it over, both is viable - they flow ten times better than acrylics>swipe away excess. Chill out, you have a long working time, no rush like with acrylics>messed up anything? Just clean it with solvent. They either don't stain at all, or stain very, very lightly, unlike acrylics>don't like it in the morning? Just reactivate with solvent and fix itVirtually the only "downside" or extra step is varnishing. Everything else is not only better, but also simpler than acrylic washes. Not to mention, they also allow you to smooth the edges out for nice transitions, similarly to oil washes/paints. Which is a nice, much faster alternative to acrylic glazing.
Just make three bottles of marine juice.
>>98886633They now squeeze Marines for juice?
>>98886633What recipe?
>>98886684Black wash, brown wash, medium
>>98886633i did and it works like a charm>>98886684>Originally created by Mark Bedford of Forge World/Games Workshop repute for painting armies. He is a brilliant hobbyist as well as being a Golden Demon-level painter too.>1 part of "old formula" Nuln Oil>1 part of "old formula" Reikland Fleshshade>1 part of Lahmian Medium>Instant talent in a pot.>The new washes are a bit too Contrast paint-y. The "modern" formula is 1:1:1 Lahmian Medium, (new) Reikland Fleshshade, Army Painter Dark Tone.something like that
>>98886417my advice is stop trying to paint eavy metal style on vehicles because it looks like crap even when you do it "right." actually you should stop using the workflow entirely because it's just not efficient for the exact reasons you are describing.
>>98886417Basecoat, all over wash, drybrush again with base color is a good beginner technique so keep practicing. Drybrushing is not as easy as it seems because it’s easy to be too wet which makes it streaky. The best tip is test the brush on the back of your hand to check moisture until you can graduate to checking on just plain old printer paper.In the mean time, your model is not ruined, just base over it again and keep trying.
>>98886942>all over washwhat does this accomplish other than making you waste time repainting over all the places you didn't actually want that color on?
>>98886689>>98886721What does the medium do?
>>98883620I’m glad my aurtism hit the cutoff before the need to sub assemble holy fuck anon.
>>98886967not much
>>98886942>Basecoat, all over wash, drybrush again with base color is a good beginner technique so keep practicingIt's a combination of shitty techniques that are only suitable for quick and lazy gaming pieces.
>>98886963It’s a relatively easy and beginner friendly that can produce good gradients. It’s method based and mechanical vs needing artistic eyes, so it’s good for teaching. It’s also quick which makes it good for army painting.
>>98885690 I think 15mm is okay for more realistic proportions but it's totally opinion ofc Pic: PSC Shermans and infantry. There might be plastic infantry from one other company. No idea where my Germans are right now, I scaled those down from 28mm and resin printed them
>>98886967Thin the wash while helping it flow into crevices.
>>98886985Nonsence. These steps teach good fundamentals like why contrast is important and drybrushing skills, as well as develop good paint brush control. The natural follow up after this is glazing and edge highlights which helps push the boundary.
Just sent in my secret Santa form! I'm pretty excited!And I'm just about done with the eeso if this guy! I added some greenstuff to the holes on his tabard to make seem scroll like, and I'm going to paint on Maxwell's equations on it
>>98887031I thought the wash already did that? Why wouldn't it just come with the right amount of medium in it already ?
Hope the cross will look convincing from the distance, on photo it looks a bit scratchy.
And just about done with this filthy guy too. I got some dirty down rust on some pistachio armor, and I think it works pretty well desu. Not as gritty as I was thinkin
>>98887055Left: old hammer, bright, kino, Chad Right: grimdork, reddit, atheism, chud
>>98887055>talk about quick gaming pieces>posts quick gaming piece
>>98887161>>left>sovlfvl colovr scheme makes it look phenomenal at arm's length>>right>looks like a brown blob on the table
>>98887209exactement.. niggas will call it 'blanchitsu' when it's actually looks like 'bland shit soup'
>>98887169Anon, I don’t know how to tell you, but this is a thread about painting gaming pieces…
>>98887277This is /wip/, not /pgp/
>>98887277>>98887169well most anons rarely get to play anyway so they might as well be shownpieces and whats bad about getting better its not like you have anything better do to nor are you in a hurry to play
>>98887305people who post painted minis play regularly though. otherwise why
>>98887152Washes can always be thinned further with medium if you want a lighter coat. You can also use water, but I personally hate it, because it's changes how the paint moves and dries.>>98886492>>98886417Same concept, for what it's worth. You can make definitely make washes by thinning your acrylics, but I'd recommend that you use an acrylic medium rather than water.
>>98886557i did the oil thinghalftrack to show how they will look like tomorrow evening
Okay, finished Father Knight. Used "sunny skin tone" for highlighting blue and while it looks a bit odd, I think I will leave it like that. Worked with "Oxford" and other gray-violet, however. Plus, hand started to get shaky again near the end, as you can probably see.What do you think?
>>98887696It makes me think if you're from jupiter or into homeopathy because I sure can't see any sunny skin tone in your picture
>>98881609I wish those guys had no flak armour
>>98887772I mean I was adding "sunny skin tone" to blue for highlighting purpose.
>>98886510>so they are not for beginnersI mean if you are over 12 you can pick it up in no time, like going from crayons to coloured pencils in school
My first genuine sculpting attempt outside of filling gaps. Took a couple of tries by step one of turning this into a book of stitched flesh is done. Does it look alright so far? I know the stitch direct to the right of the belt looks fucked up but I'm hoping to cover it with the thread once it cures.I also tried to make some flowers. This is unfortunately the best one I was able to make and it's unusably large. Slightly bigger than a GW skull. I tried to go smaller but it got too difficult to do and I was getting frustrated with it. Green Stuff gets weird when you make it super thin.
>>98888204>turning this into a book of stitched flesh is done. Does it look alright so far?
>>98887016unless your criteria for "easy" is "can be done by someone with parkinson's" I don't see how doing something that basically doubles the amount of work needed just to establish your primary color is supposed to be easy or good for beginners.>>98887156when I saw this I thought "wow this guy looks cool but I think I recognize the poster. I sure hope he doesn't make it look worse in the finished job this time." then I saw>>98887696bro why?
>>98886613>Either buy premade enamel washes, which dry overnight (=they are safe to varnish or work over if you are careful), or mix your own oil washes with drying accelerator medium.Noob here, how should I start or what should I buy exactly? For acrylic I read that a brown and black wash are enough and so far they were, and easy to get from one of the major brands. What should I be looking at for oils?
>>98888204the flower looks good. I thought the book was supposed to be teeth though.
>>98888423for enamels you can start with tamiya panel liners. it comes in black, white, and brown. I don't use oils but I think burnt sienna, raw umber, and lamp black are the basic colors you use.
>>98888425It has to cure before I can add the stitches. If I could get the flower down to less than half the size I'd use it. Maybe if I get more skilled with the tools I can shape it with them instead of my wet fingers.
>>98888423>>98888435I would argue against the Tamiya Panel Liner as your only enamel of choice. They are excellent, but they are also exactly what it says on the tin - panel liners. Dedicated enamel washes are less diluted. As for what to buy, you can't really go wrong with AK enamels - they have an entire wide range of washes, panel liners, thicker enamels like streaking grime for more effects, and dedicated enamel solutions for dirt, grease, etc. You can grab what washes suit your project. As for oils, you can buy any oil paint you want, really, for as long it's not some bottom of the barrel garbage. Winsor & Newton are alright, including their Winton (student) line. You don't need any fancy artist-grade oils for washes. If you want to go hobby, AK/Abteilung oil paints are great. As for what colors, again it depends on your projects. But the most universal is usually burnt umber, siennas, sap green, and I would add some oranges and reds for rust. White and black are also always good. Contrary to acrylics, oil paints are more or less standardized, so burnt umber from one company should look similar to burnt umber from another company. Make sure to grab solvent, too. Odorless thinner like sansodor is great (you can get huge ass can from W&N again), white spirit from hobby company like AK is also alright.
>>98888423Odorless white spirit or mineral spirit is essential, both for enamels and oil paints. You can get this in large bottles either from hobby stores or hardware stores. There's also miniature branded thinners like from AK but they're more expensive per mlFor enamel panel liners, I can recommend AK, don't have personal experience with any other brands. For oils, I'd go with artist grade like Winsor & Newton artist rabge as they have higher quality and finer ground pigments than their student range or whatever it's called. Make sure you don't get water soluble oil paints, they don't work the same way.Keep your room well ventilated when working with the thinners or you might get brain damage from the vapors.I'd also recommend checking out some tutorials, MarcoFrisoniNJM works a lot with oils and is a great source for knowledge.What army are you painting and what color scheme? Whether you should get oils or panel liner depends on your needs honestly, they're both fantastic for different things.
>>98888484>or you might get brain damage from the vapors.Stop being silly, anon. Ventilate, yes, but to get brain damage from the solvent you would need to proactively huff that shit (like an actual junkie) in concentrated doses for months nonstop. The amounts you get exposed to when working with models is not even marginal. Ask any oil painter. Hell, look at a single Bob Ross video and watch how he works with it.
>>98888484aren't you supposed to use enamel thinner or naptha for enamels?
>>98888484>What army are you painting and what color scheme? Retro fantasy Chaos dudes, Corsair and Dark Eldardon't know the scheme yet, likely something red for the space elves, chaos is varied>>98888435>>98888477What's the difference between oil and enamel? I thought these are just two names for the same thing because everyone is saying them at the same time.Also not gonna lie, but despite the anon above saying these are fine for beginners now I'm supposed to know which one is good for what I'm planning to paint? Compared to the arcrylic wash that I've been told and shown to just slap on whatever.
>>98888495It is a risk that he should be made aware of. We don't know how often anon paints. It's stupid to not mention it at all when introducing someone to oils and thinners
>>98888513In that case you should at least get a red oil paint, and a black, so you can mix them up for some nice shading on the red parts of the corsair dudes. Be aware that black is often very dominant when mixing washes, less is moreA black panel liner enamel is probably also a good call, very useful for most armiesOils are thick out of the tube and you mix them thick or thin as you desire with mineral spirits. Enamels are pre thinned in the bottle and usually applied with a brush that comes attached to the inside of the bottle lid, kinda like tamiya extra thin plastic cement.Oh another things, it's good practice to gloss varnish your minis before applying enamels and oils. Most acrylics don't react to white spirits (except for Army Painter) but you can still scratch away the underlying paint when removing the excess from oil washes if you're not careful
>>98888513oil paints are made out of natural oil from the flax plant while enamels are made out of man made shit derived from petroleum. oil paints a thousands of years old technology and they aren't as tough or solvent resistant as enamels. they are mentioned together because they both have long drying times which lets you use them for certain techniques.
>>98888513>What's the difference between oil and enamel?Functionally, it's about the same, though there are some small differences - oils can be generally smoothed better, but have a tendency to dry longer, for example. It's very minor and generally more about preference, than anything particularly functional. >I'm supposed to know which one is good for what I'm planning to paint?The same way as with acrylics, really. Say you are painting your models yellow, like Imperial Fists or something. You would be using some darker brown wash from GW, something like Agrax I guess. So, just look at what oil paints or pre-mixed enamels you can get that will look similar. Or, check what AK sells - they offer specific pre-mixed enamels like "Wash for Dark Yellow" or "Wash for Green Vehicles", which will tell you. It's also much simpler and saner way of doing things, compared to "GROTGUTT'S SMELLY BALLS SHADE". It's a wash, it doesn't have to be a single perfect color. >>98888548No need for gloss, I would argue satin is better. But both are fine, I think we are already drowning anon in information lel.
>>98888524you should be more worried about oil soaked rags spontaneously combusting than giving yourself brain damage from mineral spirits
>>98881477While waiting for termies to arrive and start converting, I updated once again the old termie chaplain as their designated leader, this time switching the storm bolter for a shield I painted a couple years ago for a BG captain. He's now with more bones than ever.
>>98888618King shit.
>>98888618Peak spoopy. Incredible work as always, BT anon.
>>98888643>>98888653Appreciate it boys
>>98888618Beautiful work. The metallic highlighting/weathering on the black armor and gold trim is gorgeous.
>>98888563>I think we are already drowning anon in information lel.true lol>>98888594dont get me started anon>>98888618looks excellent
I feel like I'm too retarded to airbrush, every time I either add too much thinner and get spider webbing or too little and I clog my airbrush
>>98888886that's why I kept telling you to write it down when you got it working so you could use the same ratio next time
>>98881609tremendously cool kit. 60 heads for 20 boys is a large left over bit box, might try to print some more bodies or something. 5 of the same sprue to keep costs down makes sense, and its definitely an affordable kit.
>>98889015I haven't got it working yet so...
I feel like I'm right on the edge of finishing my sergeant, but both my main pot and my backup pot of Evil Sunz Scarlet are ruined... and that's exactly the shade of red I'm going for.
>>98889038if you are spiderwebbing try turning the air down or switching to a smaller needle
>>98887696awesome. I love that sword pointing pose.
>>98889018Yeah the value proposition is great with this kit, and the amount of detail is just perfect imo. Not too cluttered with unnecessary shit.
>>98883490>>98883502Inb4 the slaanesh guy who used coom as gloss vanish.
>>98883627Based.
NMM look so fucking weird on miniature, man. Why are so many people obsessed with this shit technique?
>>98889744Nmm is just painting, kids do it in school, painters do it without a second thought, only mini spergs make it out to be something special
>>98887169Post minis
>>98889744Paintlet cope lmao.
>>98889750it's for painting 2d images. the idea that you ought to paint 3d models like they were a 2d canvas should be challenged, but no one will because 2d painting style people control the discussion.
>>98889805>2d painting style people control the discussionAre they in the room with us right now, anon?
>>98889744>puts glitter on his model
>>98889744>>98889805NMM looks good, both in person and especially when photographed. The latter is why it's so popular. I prefer working with true metallics myself, I find it looks better on the tabletop, but I don't see a reason to hate on NMM. Comes off as sour grapes
>>98888548>>98888558>>98888563Thanks. I actually found as I was digging around my stuff that I have "Tamiya Panel Line Accent" in black and dark brown plus a bottle of thinner.So is it the best if I use this stuff kind of like black lining between parts, and not the slobbering the whole mini with it thing? Do I wait for it to dry and then dab up the spills or unneeded parts with the thinner?I was planning to get satin/gloss anyway for my minis that wear plate armor. I'll give oil washes a try later I guess. I suppose those are good for terrain too.
>>98889841>glitterYou mean sexy and realistic?
>>98889856>airbrushslop
>>98889943>me when I use buzzwords I don't even understand
>>98889871>So is it the best if I use this stuff kind of like black lining between parts, and not the slobbering the whole mini with it thing?Correct>Do I wait for it to dry and then dab up the spills or unneeded parts with the thinner?Yeah wait 5-15 minutes and then wipe off the excess with a q-tip or eyeshadow applicator damp (not wet) with thinner
>>98889941No, I mean glitter in medium, also known as metallic paint.
>>98889943I see you're not only talentless and bitter but also poor and stupid
>>98889959good metallic paints exist, you just need to broaden your horizons from spanish sparkly mica filth
>>98889744It's redditor instaslop shit, popularized by the soituber secondary crowd
>>98889951
>>98888420Too much highlighting?
Haven't posted here in a long while. Thought I should do something for Haloween
>>98890012Is that supposed to be a nightshade paolumu from monster hunter
>>98889965Funny, as some of the best glitter comes from a Spanish company.
>>98890032Unfortunately any actually good metallic paint is going to be very toxic and you aren't going to get that from any european companyBut you CAN get metallic paints that are almost indistinguishable from the real thing, they will just cost $30 a bottle and kill you
>>98889989see >>98889945
Working on getting my necron style down, would love some feedback on painting the glow. I do like how the glow sits on the barel but im looking to enhance it.
>>98890023It's paolumu model but i just went whatever with color scheme
More progress on my kitbashed zoanthrope
>>98890480Hey Brain, what we gonna do tonight?
>>98881614Today the textured plasticard plates came from the mail. I did not glue this on yet (and I need to tidy it up, along with the hull of the tank), but I think I'll rebuild the extra armour from such plates. I also ordered some rectangular ones for variety.
>>98890636Not having pareidolia must be wonderful
>>98890636Son?
>>98890636i genuinely can't tell if you're trying your best or doing an absolutely terrific bait. either way, im loving the series, keep it up
>>98890636This is never going to be painted because you can't make your own decisions, your desire far exceeds your individual creative capacity.You're basically asking /WIP/ to make the project for you, except you can't even take the directions you're asking for.
>having fun with super glue>there's now a tiny bit of human skin on one of my minisHe's from a cult of fleshcrafting degenerates so it's lore accurate
>>98890480On a kitbashing roll, decided to also bash a marine inspired by retro scifi and old models
>>98891148very cool kitbash
And the finished wizard, thoughts?
>>98891153Thanks, I still got some stuff to do once the greenstuff dries but I like it so far. Tried to give him like a pulpy sci fi pose and tried to make the boots look more like the old rogue trader metal marines boots (just lumps)
>>98891161>thoughts?Looks suitably Oldhammer with a little bit of Blanche. Is this a 3D print based one one of the old Chaos Sorceror sculpts from before the Dark Age of Technology? The pose looks familiar.
>>98891161Looks neat but the black/red feel a bit underdone compared to the nice orange/yellow
So, this is the best-painted vehicle according to GW. Picrel won Golden Demon. I'm fairly confident that I've seen better-painted vehicles itt.
>>98891204Keep in mind that these official photographs are by fucking invalids and also crushed to shit, the models invariably look at least twice as good in person or with a competent photographerBut yes they very clearly have "we want to sell more of these models specifically" as a large part of their selection criteria
>>98891204Buy Votann. Go buy Votann.
>>98891171It's an old metal chaos sorcerer. Originally, the tabard had these big ol holes in it that I had to smooth over with green stuff, I don't know what the sculptor was thinking for em
>>98891183Thanks! The red/black are supposed to be rubber electrical gloves, you think i should add some grey to the gloves?
>>98891277I think adding a harsh highlight might sell the rubber look, like a shiny rubber or latex look. Just my opinion. If you want to keep them subdued there's nothing wrong with that
>>98891022>>98891027It's very likely that I've bitten off more than I chew and that I end up wasting the kit. It's a learning experience with a lot of trial and error. I'll finish the model. Painting will be the easy part.
made test base for my cathay
>>98891354That's not a bad idea actually. You think i could get the same effect with a gloss varnish on the gloves now, or would it be better with a solid black coat first
>>98891383>I end up wasting the kit.Apart from physically destroying it, there's no such thing. If you leave it, then it's a good source of donor parts and bits for future projects. There's very little that can't be repaired. Tho anon is right, you should go in with at least somewhat vague idea about what you want to do, not just slap stuff on the model randomly.
>>98891384Interesting. Is that a sluice?
>>98891411I had an idea for the extra armor, but I changed it based on the feedback I got here.
>>98889822yes I'm talking to them now>>98889856this is the absolute best examples you're going to find of nmm and it looks like a 3d judas priest album cover. is that still cool? sure, but it's not the limit of what can be done with painting either.
doing a chaos warrior for a local contest
>>98890007I explained before but it looks unclear what you are trying to paint. I can't tell if it's supposed to be some kind of metal or a camo pattern or what.>>98890047not true at all. you can buy alclad in yurup from ammo.>>98891027no his problem is that he doesn't know what he wants and is just impulsively gluing knick knacks to the model like a child. he keeps asking what to do because he doesn't know himself. he has been told to reference real vehicles but he either refuses to do so or lacks the mental ability to translate it into a plan for his model.
>>98891388Using varnish for a shine effect could work, but the shine is going to be "out of scale" and looks too big or overtake too much I think. They arent gonna shine like they're gloves worn by a human, they're gonna shine like they're only 5mm long gloves
>>98891509>his problem is that he doesn't know what he wantsThat's what I said.
>>98891468>a 3d judas priest album cover.Wil Rees, who drew these freaky illustrations for the First Edition Rogue Trader roolz, went on to paint album covers for Dio.
Unfortunately, peg for her leg was in very unfortunate place so her very important part of the body will suffer a bit.
>>98891468I don't disagree with what you said here, but this is the post that started this whole discussion about NMM:>>98889744>NMM look so fucking weird on miniature, man. Why are so many people obsessed with this shit technique?
>>98891730You should gap fill that ass anon
>>98891509Then how I'm supposed to do proper highlights that reads as highlighting to you?
>>98891739Too late for that, I'm afraid.
>>98891739I would fill that ass too
>>98891747You could slap some sprue goo on it, feather it out with plastic cement and brush on primer and then normal paints over it. Did that recently myself on a 3d printed mini with a hole on it's head from a support nub that I missed during assembly. Can't tell it was ever there now
>>98891732personally I think it looks uncanny, especially when you see it in person and expect the reflection to shift but it doesn't.>>98891744what is it supposed to look like? what do you imagine the armor being made out of? is it supposed to be matte like some kind of ceramic or plastic? is it supposed to be polished metal? if it's supposed to be a fairly non-reflective material then you have way too many highlights. if it's supposed to be shiny then you are doing the nmm meme. I think maybe you are trying to do volumetric shading, but it's too messy so it doesn't end up looking right. you either should change your technique or stop trying to do it.
>>98891789This is metal mini, anon. Plus, I would need to strip whole paint with primer and do this again.>>98891790It's metal armour so it's supposed to be shiny, yes.>you either should change your technique or stop trying to do it.Change to what? I'm not trying to be offensive here, I simply don't get the suggestions. "Stop trying to do it" and what, apply wash and leave it like this? Because it would look so painfully dull and boring that way.Imagine being told whole time to do layering, highlighting, edge highlighting, etc and then someone comes in and says "no, it looks bad, don't do this at all".
>>98891790>personally I think it looks uncanny, especially when you see it in person and expect the reflection to shift but it doesn't.This is my main gripe with it too. Still looks cool though. And some people just simply hate working with metallics and prefer doing NMM. My wife is one of them. One scuffed brush stroke with normal acrylic paint is easy to fix, but with true metallics you've got glitter where it doesn't belong and that can be a huge pain in the ass to fix. I find NMM more annoying cuz of all the glazing it requires but I understand her reasoning
>>98891825Nah you can just slap it on top of the paintjob. Sprue goo works as a gap filler on easy to access rounded parts like that ass cheek even if it doesn't melt the material underneath like it would on bare plastic. The mini I did this to recently was resin, not plastic
>>98891204It's a good paint job, but you can watch a hundred videos on youtube about how to paint that exact same style.
>>98891846I don't think I would try it on her now and not sure about applying it on already painted sections but thanks for the tip, I will keep that in mind next time I run into similar problem.
>>98891825if you want to do volumetric shading you could try using an airbrush or a sponge. if you want it to look like shiny metal the easiest way would be with a candy metallic paint, or even just multiple layers of gloss clear like how cars are painted. there are a lot of different styles of painting and ways to go about getting something to look like you want. don't feel like you are obligated to follow a certain one just because you think you're supposed to.>it would look so painfully dull and boring that way.like I have been saying the in progress versions with the plain blue armor look good. they aren't boring because they have good contrast with the black, white, and red details. don't think it looks bad just because you aren't following the space marine playbook.
>>98891838NMM feels like it exists as a difficult technique just to win awards
>>98891470Overall it looks nice. Transitions are a little rough, some wash pooling, the fur on the shoulder some highlight juice went into the crevices.
>>98882770I can understand that. It was a bitch and a half getting this to Spain, and the sons of Moorish whores in customs took all the snacks I included. And before anybody says it, I've sent snacks internationally plenty of times before; that was the first time I had a package actually rifled through.
>>98892037transitions are the bane of my existence. but keep in mind all that was done in about 4h
I usually dont do this, but there is a very interesting sale for Scale75 stuff going on at Games Island, so let me shill for them a bit:https://games-island.eu/c/SUPER-SALE::m/Scale-75#ftr-tpApparently they are clearing out the entire range, and both acrilic pots as well as tubes of oil paint is available for around 1€ per individual paint, and 7,50 for sets of 9 paints. Oils are also just around 1€ each.I think at least two people in here seem to like Scale75, so maybe thats interesting for some.
>>98891939Airbrush and candy coating is something for bigger models, I don't think it would work at this small scale. I'm not precise enough with airbrush to paint such small details either.
>>98887548How much time did you save?
>>98892391they turned okdont know if i saved any time but sure i could have finished 30 tanks in the time it took for the oil to dry if i was using regular washes
>>98891383Just relax and don't worry too much, bro. It'll be good if only as a stepping stone in learning and experience.
>>98882770 A few years back, I sent a Santa package to Japan from the US and the shipping cost about 70USD. I can't imagine how much overseas shipping alone is going to cost right now with all the trade wars and fuel supply problems.
>>98892487I remember feeling the sting sending Christmas gifts to our lad in Beckenham. There's a four pound limit for First Class International, and last time I looked, postage for that was just shy of $60US.I'm going to do my best to match anons to their own continents and countries unless they specifically asked otherwise - maybe for some, the extra postage isn't such a big deal?
>>98892545 I signed up for SS now for the first time.
>>98892545The cost sucks more dick than GW, Santanon, but I don't think people should feel left out just because they have healthcare.
>>98892545 Yeah, expense is relative of course. I've done overseas Santa every time I've joined in but I'm doing domestic this year. I'll probably resume foreign gifting if someone ever finds the brakes on the crazy train. Unrelated to SS, of course, I added some static grass. I kind of don't want to add too much and lose all that dirt texture from when I put the thing together while stuck out in the middle of nowhere. Maybe a little bit more. Dead grass is a little bit too pale. Not sure if I could stain static grass with a plastic coloring dye to get a darker shade. I have a huge tub of the stuff I got for cheap ages ago
>>98892637>I'll probably resume foreign gifting if someone ever finds the brakes on the crazy train.You just have to survive the coming war and things will start moving forward again.
>>98892262you can airbrush at any scale. the only problem is masking extremely tiny parts, but if you use it for your base color you don't have to worry about it.
>>98891204Vehicles suck for artistic painting. There’s only so much you can do with a truck or tank
>>98892998Artists are somehow banned from painting vehicles well? Do you have to be a holder of an official Scale Modeller ID card to do realistic weathering?
>>98892998You can do pretty weird things, people just don't.
>>98893018This yours? Looks sick
>>98893121Nah, just from my cool minis folder.
Some work on the gun. Next should be the metals and belts and that should be it
>>98893186Also I think I'll try a barrel burn effect on the gun
>>98893186Do some chipping on the mag well and the top of the spare mag.
what do you guys think of the slayer sword winner? I am pretty sick of the NMM mindset and seeing the same painting grogs gloating about an over rated miniature because it got an award and has pretty bad NMM. whats more, adepticon's ss miniature also sucked ass. What the fuck, why are EM painters not judging anymore? at least when they used to judge the miniatures where cool, now we have some semi pretentious smart felling guest posser doing it.
>>98893509on the core is expertly painted with ridiculous skill.but as a mini, its just boring. literally the retail calgar, its just boring. painting it as super real just kind of makes it even more boring. its technically proficient but ultimately lacking creativity and soul. the art world went through this exact era, i'm just hoping it will pass.
Got everything primed tonight. Still need to figure out what color scheme I'm going to do with my space marines.
>>98893569>on the core is expertly painted with ridiculous skill.dude look at the NMM on the sides... its literallt flat as fuck and some of the painting looks super sloppy. I saw it irl but you can see it in the web pictures as well. Again fuck the - guest judges - they are in the artsy fartsy department of no NMM? Then no win.
>>98893578You looking to do a custom scheme? Like your own chapter?
>>98893585honestly, i didnt bother to look that close. i want to stress how boring it is. nmm is cool, and ive seen cool things with it, but it is a bad fad that is taking over(agreeing with you). the mini just has no style. one glance is, neat and then you move on.
6 more dwarfs almost done.
>>98893509is gd a modelling contest or a painting contest? does the model that looks the best win or the one that was painted with the most skill?
>>98893588What I've done so far is basically just Ultramarines but Turquoise instead of blue and silver instead of gold. I think I might try something similar to the dreadnoughts I did with a blue base coat with a turquoise zenithal. I'm unsure about what color their cloaks should be.
>>98893617painting contest, the one that the judge likes the most basically.
>>98893760so then the answer to the nmm question is that people are incentivized to do it by the judges since nmm will score more points even if the end result is equal?
>doing NMM>zoom in>look like fucking shit
>>98893784the guest judges are mostly always bias to a certian tendency. Back when the eavy metal team used to judge, the SS minis had soul. Now its your average pedantic NMM slop
>>98893799I mean if you are gonna shit on it that hard you may as well post your models.
>>98893784Contests are meant to show how good you are, so doing harder things gives more points.Same with something figure skating competitions, if you do a harder set of moves without fucking up, you get more points.
>>98893786Harsh edge highlighting aside, I like the flames, they have a nice warm glow to it
>>98893974idk if you were judging a wood carving contest would you give extra points for someone who used a spoon instead of a chisel? you should be scored on the end result, not how much work it took you to get there.
>>98894041No, because that's just using suboptimal tools, not doing a difficult technique.
>>98894045if you could achieve a comparable result with an easier technique should you still get more points for doing it the hard way? are techniques not just tools that you learn so doing something the hard way when there was an easier option is basically using a suboptimal tool?
>>98894124NTA but you have a massive hate boner for NMM and are not educated enough in miniature painting to argue that it's shit. Please stop.
>>98894148>not educated enough in miniature paintinglmao the fucking professor here thinks you need a degree to know how to make realistic looking metal without nmm
>>98894165Not what I said at all. And your seething only further proves my point. Take a breathe anon.
>>98894177uh oh melty! mr. art degree is mad that I'm insulting his super painting skill.
>>98894186>literal child insults Holy fuck.
>>98894190>still can't defend his artist memeyou said something fucking stupid with "educated in miniature painting" now own up to it or else pretend it was someone else. it's already too late to delete your post in embarrassment.
>>98894203This is basically borderline schizobabble at this point. If the technique is so shit why don't you post examples of your work?>delete my post in embarrassment I'll leave it as an anchor so other anons can laugh at you.
>>98894203lmao keep going anon
>>98894207>now he's coping with "if you can do better then prove it"did you pay money for a nmm class or something?
>>98894215>can't post his own workWhats the matter? You scared?
>>98894217>still trying to dodge the fact that he said something incredibly retardedwhere do you even come up with something like "education in mini painting?" either you actually wasted your money on art school which is lol or you think watching jewtube videos makes you an authority in a retarded internet argument which is mega lol.
>>98894223>you can't have any authority over miniature painting, only I can!>so fucking stupid you don't know what education meansThis has to be some top tier troll, you aren't seriously like this are you?
>>98894231>noooo can't you see you're just too stoopid to understand the greatness of nmmimagine simping for a painting technique
>>98894237Once again, not what I said. You are very clearly too emotional and uneducated when it comes to miniature painting to be shitting on a technique used by professional painters. Funniest part about this is I typically don't even use NMM, I prefer using metallic paints because it's easier when I'm painting an army, but if I'm doing a project I'll use NMM to get better depth.Again, this is just really sad anon, its just a painting technique. Just because you can't do it well doesn't mean its shit.
>>98894248oh my god there it is. he brought out the "professional painters." how could I not bow down before the wisdom of real artists who even have their own jewtube channels and chinese airbrush sponsorships?>I was just a stupid chud with a bottle of airframe aluminum before I learned the wisdom of nmm from professional artists. how could I have been so blind before? why use one color to make real reflections when I could paint multiple colors to give the impression of them? I wasn't even thinking of the izzat I could be farming by intentionally using a more difficult technique to achieve the same effect. now that I've seen the light I have to make sure those fools on /wip/ don't disparage the greatness of nmm.
Any other range that has a good red other that GW's Mephiston Red? I tried Army Painter but it wasn't very good.
>>98894267>total schizophrenic meltdown I hope a Janny takes pity on you and removes this before /tg/ gets it peak traffic. I don't watch painting youtubers. You're gonna have to come up with a different cope.
>>98894281yeah ok mr educated painter I hope the lessons from pro painters were worth the student debt
>>98894279Two thin coats equivalent is very good as I've been told.
>>98893186I never thought I'd say those words, but the spring behind the charging handle looks so fucking good.It really is the last 5% of work that make 95% of the minis quality.
>>98888618Uh mazing!
>>98894298I'll look into it thanks
>>98894165Not everything is for a goal of realism. a lot of top miniature painters intentionally lean into illustrative environments meant to feel more like a fantasy paintings.
>>98886633i made a variant of this i call skin juiceit's a pot of TTC flesh wash, reikland fleshshade and lahmian medium tossed together in a 60ml dropperi use it for skin tones, dark or light, and it just works
>>98894357hi token
>>98891470follow up with the banner freehand done
>>98894473beautiful freehandplease fix that knee
>>98894473Holy shet.
>>98894473Cheers anon, finished my standard bearer yesterday.
>>98894124>a comparable resultIt's not a comparable result, it's a very different result. Metallic paint is limited. Imagine if some old master painted a knight on canvas, but instead of painting the armor, he just filled it in with metallic paint and called it a day.
I'm not sure that I'm happy with how the arm blade came out. I don't know maybe I should revisit it and try to make it look less like ass
>>98895164Playing a little devil advocate here, that knight would be 2D while we talk about 3D objects, albeit at small scale.
>painting shadows on 3d objects
>>98895245Fair, so give that metallic paint some nice shading.
>>98895265>painting a miniature up like a cheap toy and expecting it to look good
>painting a miniature
>>98895309i sometimes paint a miniature
>painting
>pain
>spin
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