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Previous thread: >>11176699


This thread is for the discussion of scale plastic (and resin, PE, wood, etc) models kit
-Post photos of your builds in progress and your finished builds
-Have your builds critiqued or critique others
-Discuss tips and techniques
-Ask for advice or give advice to others

Always remember:
>No manufacturer is purely perfect or awful (except Kovozávody Prostějov). ALWAYS research your kits before buying.

Some helpful guides to get started:
https://www.scalemates.com/
http://www.mediafire.com/view/1vf1aw7v91pz5pa/Airfix%20Model%20World%20Specia%20%28Scale%20Modelling%20Step-By-Step%29.pdf
http://www.scalemodelguide.com/
http://www.modelersite.com/en/area/98/scale-models-techniques
http://fichtenfoo.net/blog/model-tutorials-and-in-progs
http://ipmsstockholm.org/
https://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/
http://www.primeportal.net/home.htm
https://www.flickr.com/photos/156268995@N04/albums

Plus there are tons of people on YouTube with pretty good videos on techniques etc.

Some sites to purchase models, extras, and supplies:
>ebay
https://www.dersockelshop.de/ (GER)
https://www.scalehobbyist.com/index.php (US)
https://www.alfahobby.se/ (SWE)
http://spruebrothers.com/ (US)
https://freetimehobbies.com/ (US)
http://www.hobbyeasy.com/ (HK)
http://www.luckymodel.com/ (HK)
http://www.hlj.com/ (JP)
https://www.modellbau-koenig.de/en (GER)
http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/m/ (JP)
https://www.hannants.co.uk/ (UK)
https://www.jadarhobby.pl/index.php?language=en (PL)
https://www.bnamodelworld.com/ (AUS)
http://volksusastore.com/webstores/scale/ (US) (Carry Mr. Color and GaiaNotes paint)
https://www.emodels.co.uk/ (UK)
https://www.wonderlandmodels.com/
https://www.super-hobby.com (EU/UK/RU/US/PL)
https://plastmodel.pl/ (PL/EU)
https://agtom.eu/en/(PL/EU)
https://exito.site/en_GB/index(PL/EU)
https://m-zone.pl (PL only)

Jannie feedback for really, really big retards:
https://www.4channel.org/feedback
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fuck gunpla niggers
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Are Mikr Mir kits any good? I'm wondering if pic related is better than the Hasegawa/Revell kit.
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>>11208859
A Hind-D?
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>>11208396
Yes
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>>11209294
A cheap lightbox made a huge my improvement to my pictures. The background for now is a small piece of wallpaper, I'll need to get something better for that still.
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>>11209054
It's short run so the usual caveats apply, they're also not planning to release more variants unlike Hasegawa who has pretty much every variant served.
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>>11208867
pls no
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>>11209294
gay
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>>11209294
>>11209295
>And this is our son's room
>He's quite the model maker
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>>11209294
>>11209295
For her sake I hope your mother doesn't find the jar when she's cleaning your room
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>>11209294
Is that one of these boar tusk trophy plates?
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>>11209575
>fly bait display plate
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>>11209575
It's a display base I bought at the model shop
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Mail man arrived with this winters selection of projects
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>>11209734
How much did it cost? You can get those trophy plates starting at like 6 Euros.
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is trumpeter shit
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>>11209735
Wrestle you for the Hornet and the Dart
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>>11209735
nice haul, I wish I had time to empty my stash this winter

side note, Arma hobby has some God awful manuals, I hope you're experienced with 72nd planes and don't trust the paper
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>>11208859
first scale model. 1:700 mikasa. royally fucked up the primer. on the plus side i will be able to use the hull as sandpaper for my next one. paintin everything by brush
>wait 900s before making a post
the fuck is this shit
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>>11210790
still looks fine to me man. we all had to start somewhere. that looks better than my first few models, which thankfully are no longer still in existence. they were just blobs of glue and unthinned paint
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>>11210073
13€. Where do you get boar tusk display plates for that cheap?
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>>11210869
https://siaieroci.lv/en/products/trophy-plate-for-wild-boar-tusks-19cm-dark
This is for example from Latvia, or this one:
https://www.huntersfriend.eu/product/trophy-board-wildboar-tusk-14-cm/

Size and color might be a factor, but they exist
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>>11210716
Extremely experienced, also not the first Arma kit I've done. It is however the first (literally had to look it up) Kovozavody Prostejov kit I've ever built and I will say this is DEFINITELY not something you'd want to make as a noob. I bought the La-5FN but the parts for a normal La-5 and what I think may even be a La-7 is in the same kit, but the parts are not numbered at all. Instead you have to look at this guide in the manual to figure out what is what. The order of assembly is also all sorts of fucked so if anyone is thinking about trying something from these guys, please be ready to improvise. On the other hand I kinda like that all the first steps of the instruction are just how to paint the small parts
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>>11210074
really kit dependent, trumpeter is very inconsistent in their quality
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>>11211208
Nah, the quality of Trumpeter with regards to manufacturing quality I find pretty consistent. Inconsistent quality is Revell, even within the same kit. Trumpeter has some accuracy errors built into most kits that become pretty annoying as soon as you actually look at them more closely.
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>>11211288
I know the access to the general "boomer cars" subject is restricted to those brands, but it is infinite confusion to me why people keep subjecting themselves to AMT and old Revell especially when they then go complain about how shit the experience was
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>"Grandpa, I think I'm going to become a Tamiya modeller."
>"I knew you were gonna turn out alright, grandson."
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any tanks that look like that?
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>tamiya
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>>11211452
Object 490A?
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>peter trum
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>>11210074
>>11211288
This is what I've noticed too. Enjoyable build as in everything fits fairly nicely, but little details that are wrong, ignored, or out of scale. Sort of makes a fun game out of correcting them if you enjoy that.
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>>11206751
>Miniart's is better

Sure, but I got that T-34 for $10. With a bunch of free tools in the box and replacement metal barrels for ALL the guns.

>AFV's is better

Yeah, but is it the crocodile flamethrower trailer version? That's the only reason I got this one. For $15.

>Taktom's is better

But does that one cost $17? Because mine cost $17 and is still in factory shrink wrap.

>Zvezda's is better

But did that one cost $15? Because mine cost $15.

Sure, MAYBE they're not "the best" on the market, but any one of the tank kits you named probably cost almost as much as what I paid for all of these kits COMBINED.

>>11204856
Actually, the Atlantis Type 97 Chi-Ha Japanese tank is 1/48. I thought it was 1/35 when I got it but it looks like a decent weekend project kit and prime material for practicing camo.

>>11206796
Oh yeah, it'll be some time before I get to that one but I'll post pics for sure.
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>>11206751
Based on what I read online the hobby-boss t-35 seemed way better than the zvezda t-35
Have you built both?
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I wanna dip my toes in scale modeling. What are some good beginner kits??
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>>11211730
Tamiya 1/35 Panzer II Ausf F/G
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>>11211730
You can't really go wrong with anything from Tamiya.

I'd suggest starting with one of the 1/48 ground vehicle kits. The M8 Howitzer Motor Carriage usually is about $20 USD after taxes and it assembles into a tidy little package with working turret swivel and elevation, as well as a little commander figure.

Avoid Revell unless it's a snap-tite, because those are piss easy kits meant for kids.
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>>11211730
Airfix kits are also very good for this. Please don't expect super good results on your first model, if you have been browsing in other places you see a lot of dickheads posting their "first model" when it's obvious it's anything but. Shits hard but you get better quick if you want to.
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>>11211777
>Avoid Revell unless it's a snap-tite, because those are piss easy kits meant for kids.
When I was a kid, Revell didn't have any snappy-tighty shit or whatever newfangled stuff you mean. And we STILL built those models.
In fact, as a kid I at least had steady hands.
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>You can't really go wrong with anything from Tamiya.
apparently except their sea harrier
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>>11211334
Some of us are masochists and the bad experience is part of the fun.
t. currently struggling with the AMT Autocar 9964B

haven't decided how I want to paint it yet, but I think this will be the model where I learn how to weather and do chipping. I want to make it look like an old and abused piece of equipment
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>>11211777
>Avoid Revell unless it's a snap-tite
You should avoid Revell snap-tites because they're terrible; awful quality and fit for snap kits. Most are decades old Monogram molds and getting a decent modern snap-tite is a lottery unless you check Scalemates first (what newbie even knows what a Scalemates is?). Revell and American brands are the worst entry points for starters, no wonder scale modelling is so dead in that country because beginners get recommended these awful pieces of shit as their first model.
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>>11211729
I've only built the one from zvezda. Not great, not terrible. I also did a bit of research back in the day and it seemed to me that they were pretty much toe-to-toe. Nonetheless, zvezda beats hobby boss when it comes to the details on the back of the hull
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>>11211730
What topic?
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>gundam
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>>11212202
I mean he could make a dio with some 1:144 planes later
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>>11211730
You should pick a subject you care about so you’ll go in with strong motivation to do a good job. Obviously your first work will not be your best, but don’t go in with that mindset.

Tamiya kits are beginner friendly as in everything fits well so you won’t have to fill and sand gaps. You don’t have to limit yourself to them though. I also like Hasegawa and Trumpeter. Italeri, Revell, and Airfix can be good but kit dependent. If you’re worried you can always search online and read about the kit you’re interested. And if the build is a little more difficult you’ll just develop more skills.

Only hard avoids imo would be old Airfix airliners or boomer era car kits
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Post subjects that don't exist yet, but you wanna build them:
>1:35 Type-88
>1:35 Arjun
>1:35 Vickers Mk.1
>1:35 Al-Khalid
>1:35 Nork T-62-based tonks
I just wanna build peak turdworlder obscureshit.
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>>11213429
80's warpact miniatures in 1/35. also, good ones in 1/72
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Just cracked open the Tamiya Churchill Crocodile to take stock of the contents and...well, it's the first time I've seen instructions telling the modeler they need to scratchbuild their own parts. Specifically, the tank doesn't have its antenna and so you're told to melt styrene runners and stretch them - but it doesn't say how LONG - and to make the pair of wires that way.

Lol no. I get the molding dates back to the 1970s or something, but I see no reason to have to do things the old, hard way, for something that looks like shit, when modern alternatives exist with more detail. Specifically, the kit has no accommodations for the base of the antenna, while all the detail add-on kits have multiple options for the bases. Just curious if anybody here knows the best choice for a "No. 19 Aerial Radio" as that looks to be the correct equipment for a Churchill.
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>>11213442
In 1970's people were not hapless lost dipshits so they would know that you can calculate a length of an antenna from its frequency.
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>>11211730
Anything full-interior by MiniArt
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>>11213442
>stretching sprue is hard
Not sure if troll or actually retarded
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>>11213435
Yeah, while WP vehicles are mostly covered by now by decent, modern kits, there's a chronic lack of WP figures.

The differences between uniforms, whether infantry, whether tank crew means that you can't just slightly rework Soviet figures if you want to use them for WP-satellite vehicles, it won't work.
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>>11211192
One of my cats stole the fucking cockpit floor I had painted and I can't find it anywhere in the apartment, suddenly I appreciate immensely that there's duplicates of almost every part (even if they're not model/variant accurate)
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>>11213429

I'll go with:

1: A 1/72 Avro Manchester.
Come on, Airfix, you already have the tooling for the Lanc.

2. 1/72 B-32 Dominator that isn't in fucking resin

3. 1/700 USS Brooklyn that isn't in fucking resin.
Seriously the damn IJN has plastic kits of auxiliaries and ships that lasted 3 fucking months. USN needs a little love in the waterline series.
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>>11208396

I'm doing goonpla right now
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>>11213429
>>1:35 Nork T-62-based tonks
even fucking conversions for basic T-62s are missing, like how hard is it to make a resin kit for the KPV and a couple of missiles on a stick?
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>>11209735
>super hornet "golem"
a bit on the nose tbdesu
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>>11214017
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>>11213429
we need more spitfires, p-51s and bf109s
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>>11213429
What about subjects that don't really exist anymore?
I want those old interwar planes that were used for arctic exploration, like Byrd's Fokker or his Ford Trimotor. All you can get (ahuehuhue) are discontinued or really really old-ass kits.
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>>11213904
>1/700
royal navy ships are strangely absent as well. the mainstream manufacturers should be making this stuff. it seems like tamiya mostly only makes ijn slop and ships sunk by ijn. it's weird. it seems like for every tooling of a good guy ship, we get 10 toolings of fucking bismarck and yamato
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>Build kit
>Prime
>Start next kit
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>>11214122
what is this, amateur hour?

>buy kit
>buy new kit
>buy newer kit
>buy a duplicate kit (forgot you had it)
>buy another kit
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>>11214130
>open box of the first kit an admire the sprues
>buy another kit
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>>11213459
A little redundancy and help in the instructions isn't exactly asking for the moon here.

>>11213598
I didn't say I couldn't do it, I said I saw no reason TO do it because aftermarket detail kits would look so much better. As I stated in the part of the post you probably didn't read, the kit simply doesn't have the proper base structures for the antenna, either, just holes to stick stretched sprue into.
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>>11211208
>>11210074
i had a 1/144 F-117 Nighthawk that has bad flashing and sink mark on the exhaust panels. i always assume Trumpeter is the chinkshit of scale models and you rather go for Hobby Boss or Meng if you want better quality kits.
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>>11214328
>Hobby Boss
hobby boss is just trumpeter with a different box
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The kozzajbjabjbdhbd zomzosihndhd or whatever they're called La-5 is basically assembled now. It has weird fitment issues that I've never really seen before, it's like every sharp corner part goes into a dull corner on the other part or something. Lots of small filling is going to be needed but I haven't got to that yet.

The decals SUCK. The clear layer is misaligned completely with the decals because for some reason these idiots don't print the whole sheet with clear? Weird choice. So far I'd lean towards "don't buy unless subject only exists made by these guys".

>>11213429
Mind if it's just a subject that was made in an extremely limited run and then never seen again? The F-15 ACTIVE. Hasegawa only made a few hundred kits and they are STUPIDLY expensive now. Other than that I'd love to see more "what if" kits like the weird concept jet fighters from the Cold War that never made it to prototypes. Additionally I'd like far more options when it comes to modern day race cars. There's not a lot to choose from and they never come out while the car is still relevant anymore.
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>>11214011
>like how hard is it to make a resin kit for the KPV
Mig's Syrian T-55 conversion kit, with a North-Korean rangefinder.

This kit is getting close to twenty years old though.
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>>11213429
i want every vehicle ever envisioned and a lot more buildings in 1/700 scale
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>>11214508
>Always remember:
>No manufacturer is purely perfect or awful (except Kovozávody Prostějov). ALWAYS research your kits before buying.
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>>11214618
Kek my build of the Italeri MC202 got that line added to the OP last year
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>>11214382
It's not. Hobby Boss actually started to put effort into their kits in the last ~10 years
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>>11214119
Aoshima has at least been giving us some rarer RN subjects lately, though we're still missing a modern QE-class (the trumpeter kit is kind of ass)
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>>11214618
>>11214620
I started changing the manufacturer across about a dozen of sequential OPs I made for the past two years, glad to see the joke picked up and paid off
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Why do enamel paints have SO MUCH more overspray than the lacquers I'm usually using? I had to use some of the testors enamel I had instead of my usual mr color lacquers because I didn't have the color I needed, and the filter in my booth is completely saturated with that color now. A bunch of it even went out the exhaust, so the fans are dusted in red and the screen on the window the tube is in was too. I've painted a lot more with lacquers and it only barely discolors the filter.
also how do I stop being a brain dead retard and spilling paint everywhere
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>>11215120
Just use a brush bro
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>>11214637
huh, I thought those aoshima kits were 70s boomer bullshit. perhaps I was mistaken. kind of tempted to do a carrier desu
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>>11215145
Aoshima is pretty good, I've built a few of their more recent car kits and all have been a nice experience desu

>>11215120
tl;dr enamels spray finer particles (therefore the usually better result too) and you have to reduce your pressures to compensate if you don't want as much paint to come out
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>>11215120
you could use edible paint, then just lick up any mess
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>>11214636
HobbyBoss is the same quality as Trumpeter. For example The HobbyBoss MiG-31 in 1/48 is basically the Trumpeter 1/72 one scaled up. The kits have the same look and feel.
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>>11216492
1:72 scaled up to 1:48 is not the same quality.

I just started building the HB 1:35 Type-59-II, and so far it seems to be inferior in some places to the Trumpeter T-62 I did a while back.
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>>11216492
Their Msta-S is just like the trumpeter oversimplified new wave of 1/72 tanks, basic things missing like brush guards and the ability to position the gun at an angle that is not 0
And they have the gall to sell this dogshit for more money than the zvezda one
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picked up a bunch of old kits for relatively cheap, including this LTD Lagg 3. This is the first time I've come across this style of plastic for the canopy. Looks pretty cheap and flimsy lol. It seems like the actual part itself isn't yellowed like the rest of the plastic thankfully. The rest of the kit is not great. lots and lots of sanding and trimming will be required to get it to fit together. I'm up for a good challenge though, even as a relative newfag.
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at this rate, I'm going to become one of those boomers with shelves upon shelves of kits they will never actually build (I want to actually build all of these though, no matter how shit they are)

I'm currently working on an AMT Autocar DC9964 dump truck. Its definitely not the greatest but with some love it seems to be turning out pretty good
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>>11217554
Vacuum formed canopies are arguable more "correct" when it comes to the scales models are in but curious to know how much of a pain in the ass it might be, never tried them
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>>11217557
weeb cringe
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>>11217558
I can't wait to cut it out wrong because I'm actually retarded
>>11217561
yes
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>>11217562
>fallout/stalker ahh engine
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>>11217562
Looks like our old tug engines at the airport
protip: paint everything black and sticky and you'll get a very accurate look of "never changed oil leaking from the headgasket"
I am being sincere

In fact it may behoove you to just go get some grease, get it hot, let it cool and set out for a while, then apply that directly to the plastic.
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>>11215145
Some of them are, unfortunately, but the newer RN stuff (County-class, Exeter, Illustrious) are all new molds and pretty up-to-date.
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>>11215120
Pigments in oil based paints can be ground much smaller due to different colloid kinetics in an oil vs. ketones. Advice is the same in any other situation where you have overspray - drop air pressure and ease up on the trigger.



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