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[Sad News] These are now concept art figures.
>>11290297Takara won again
>>11290297so how about that MP-43 megatron reissue, takara?yes i missed out because of issues with the figure such as cracking plastic
>>11290155retail is 55
Thoughts on Toyhax? Just finished applying this set to turn Cyberverse Tarn into G1 Stalker, kinda wish I had done some paint apps before applying to really sell the look but I like the way it looks. Would like to see a proper fuckhuge rocket and radar dish as accessories for him and print them out.
>>11290318DESU it'll probably dip to 30 in a few months anyway, they released that Galvatron mold too many times. It's like how SS86 Arcee is shelfwarming like crazy even though she sold pretty well the first few releases because everyone who really wanted Arcee already has her.If they really wanted people to pick up Galvatron again they would've at least retooled him a bit or something.
>>11290302Hmmm I should finally get these guys, I thought they looked pretty cool but now that they're the only remnants of a cancelled game they have just that little bit extra curiosity factor for me. I like weird stuff like that>>11290321I've always found toyhax sets to look really ugly, idk. Never understood why they're as popular as they are. The faction labels are nice and the reproductions of classic sticker sheets for like, G1 guys is appreciated but the actual sticker sets for most figures almost always just make them look worse to me
>>11290302What are the odds that these molds will get re-releases and/or redecos down the road? Or should I just bite the bullet and get them now before the aftermarket prices get too high?
>>11290302God fucking dammit. Also Devastation is still the last good TF game ever made.
>>11290321Quality-wise they're okay. I think they tend to go a bit overboard with their sets though, any time I'm interested in something enough to want to buy it I'm usually only buying it for like half the sheet at most. Their best use is getting nice faction stickers to slap on your 3Ps.I think their customer service is alright though I've never had to raise an issue with any of my orders before. Apparently it's a real "mom'n'pop" business though so I wouldn't really expect them to bend over backwards for you like, say, BBTS, can, but I know they used to send free replacement sheets if they accidentally sent you anything that wasn't cut properly for example.
>>11290311When they're not being cucked by Hashit they always win.Thankfully the (((brand unification))) looks to be coming to an end. So when Hasbro goes bankrupt Takara will just take over and we'll be in another golden age.
>>11290329>What are the odds that these molds will get re-releases and/or redecos down the road?Well Bumblebee did
>>11290302Was the concept to make them look like shit because mission accomplished
How is Galvatron supposed to compete
>>11290368>those hands dangling from Prime's crotchI guess that's what they call moose knuckles
>>11290359>He thinks Takara won't just put the franchise in a vault and focus on more train bot shit.
>>11290297>We're all gonna buy
>>11290318how fucking big is it?anyway don't defraud businesses. you wouldn't like it if it happened to you.
>>11290328would the game have been good?
>>11290385Considering it's been in development since 2017 and they never felt confident enough to officially show a single second of actual gameplay footage, I'll say probably not. It was also apparently a live service game, and I avoid those on principle.
>>11290388so really nothing of value was lost
>>11290385There was leaked gameplay and it honestly looked pretty fun.
>>11290388>>11290393Yet the wii looking galactic trials shit got a full physical release.
>>11290296anon, those are molds funded by Hasbro and co-designed with them. Just with their own colors.Not something made by Takara entirely solo.
>>11290296>>11290418>BTFO Hasbro>Still gets Astrotrain's colors wrongI don’t think they’re sending their best and brightest
>>11290403Evergreen designs have always been weird to me when G1 or even Bayverse designs basically function in that capacity just fine. Weird comparison but it's like when Esperanto was invented to be an international language even though English was already perfectly fine serving as one.Also the designs themselves seem like they were too busy trying to fix things that weren't really broken, like trying to make Bumblebee look "cooler" or the slimmed down design on Optimus which makes him look like he has birthing hips or something.
>>11290439Evergreen is especially weird to me when you consider that basically 80% of the franchise has had overlapping designers meaning they already look like the same art style. Like you could stick G1, Beast Era, and UT characters right next to each other and they would look like they were from the same series
>>11290393They spent 100 million on this thing so I'd say that counts as "something of value" that was lost.. Otherwise, there could have been some cool toys to come out of it, but the actual game? I'll say probably not. I think there was a leaked listing for a TF Reactivate Lifeline somewhere, so I'll be kinda sad if we never see that. I might have also hallucinated that though.It's crazy how video game flops have gotten so bad, it's like powercreep. 10-15 years ago a game that had an 8 year development hell, started and stopped development multiple times due to studio and engine changes, and cost 100 million dollars only to be cancelled with little to no fanfare or even evidence of its existence would have been an industry-defining flop, now It's not even close to the worst failure in the last few months.
>>11290403dude dont be a faggot, we're already on your side.>>11290439ehhh English sucks. Esperanto was supposed to be easier. The main reason things like that stopped dead in their tracks is people started all doing recorded media of their language, and that became a huge part of life. So at that point, you can't switch to a new language anymore.
>>11290445Seriously. I blame China.I imagine they will make it a tax writeoff, so they won't lose any money, we will. The Democrats skimming off the top will have to take one fewer private jet flight to a pollution caucus.
>>11290443It would make sense if they used Evergreen to update certain G1 designs like the Carbots so they feel a bit more differentiated and giving them each more individualized design elements, but Evergreen is like the rest of the franchise and obsessed with Optimus/Bumblebee/Megatron/etc. who already have iconic designs that barely change between different iterations of them, so what's even the point?
>>11290454imagine, even from the mindset of a braindead fucknut, what it's like to be running a company where you keep making the same thing over and over, and one of those things you can't even do because it's a gun, and another is usually a licensed volkswagen
>>11290455You can still change slight things about a design without using the evergreen designs. Just look at all the G1 tank Megatrons or CC Bumblebee
>>11290455They release unlicensed versions of characters like G1 Bumblebee all the time.
>>11290460>>11290461I feel like you have missed the point.Just, how fucking weird must it be for them, if they describe their job it's just "Making the same 4 toys over and over, from a franchise that has 400 toys"
>>11290466Wouldn’t using the evergreen designs also basically be “making 4 toys from a franchise that has 400, except now the toys you’re making have no fiction to accompany them
>>11290471that too. it's gotta be profoundly odd for them. like there's no source material to look at anymore.
TAKARA ALWAYS WINS BABY
>>11290466CHUG stuff is decently varied right now IMO. Yeah it could be better but compared to like 10 years ago it's been an improvement in terms of at least attempting to give us more characters in the cast.Funny enough it's a lot of third party stuff that sometimes feels like it's treading water even though it used to be the other way around. Like 4 different companies trying to make a MP Devastator this year and FansToys releasing a Galvatron 2.0 instead of doing something more obvious like Rodimus Prime or something.
>>11290487Need....
>>11290487So is this an actual combiner?
>>11290499It does say amalgamation
>have both the transformers movie main them AND the car robots OP playing in my head on loopHELP
>>11290501It's hard to believe with those proportions. There's no way the Predacons will have robot modes, at most they'll separate into their animal modes.
wtf
>>11290487wait takara is doing stuff like this?
>>11290487hmmm... he does look sick, love the Studio OX style. Need to see the individual bots though. >>11290499>>11290505You can see Predaking's arms have seams on the biceps and forearms indicating they can split to form legs, and the individual bot's arms are folded up above them
>>11290302Does Soundwave's chest open?
>>11290489oh I agree, as much as I whine, things are better than they were 10 years agonot in terms of cheaping out, mind you. but that's not exactly new either.the 3p guys are reaping the consequences of not being official: anyone else can do one too, and now suddenly you have four competitors. the customer also suffers here.
>>11290506Okay I changed my mind Transformers is saved
>>11290506I like her proportions a lot.
>>11290506Huh, she looks like Minerva.
>>11290503Just have a different Koji Wada song in your head.
>>11290489That is a complaint I have with third party. It feels like they stick to whatever characters are popular at any given time and do no one else. Like it’s surprising to me that almost none of the action masters have gotten 3p toys. Skyfall is the most obvious Seeker retool ever and neither HasTak or 3P have done him
>>11290506Absolutely cute, fuck. What is this? I need it.
>>11290521Honestly thought this was some iron man themed thing until I opened
>>11290521do they have any idea how cheap and effective it would be to basically make us more 90s style toys just... yknow slightly better. hell just bootleg them, a lot of people missed out on those, or the really cool color scheme never got released, or whatever.
>>11290526Ditto
>>11290536You're basically describing Missing Link and people ate that shit up despite the price tag being absurd. Don't get me wrong, Missing Link Convoy is awesome but $120 is nuts. $40 each for Bumblebee/Cliffjumper even moreso.
>>11290544that's what i'm sayin, they could make so much money if they did missing link beast wars dudes.
>>11290506Source?
>>11290544I'm just waiting on molds I don't have yetIf they do dinobots or literally any other lost mold other than Sunstreaker I'm in
>>11290525>>11290555https://news.tfw2005.com/2025/01/08/new-transformers-bishoujo-plastic-model-kit-announced-by-kotobukiya-529341
>>11290564METAMOR-VERSE OPTIMUS PRIME!?
>>11290506>>11290564I would disparage the lack of battle mask but the super neutral robot face is close enough
>>11290506comes with generic human anime girl face as well.
Full set.
>>11290508I hope so, I'm down for some Studio Ox Predacons.
>>11290302Too bad it's the same 4 characters we always get. They look cool but don't care enough to have them be redundant with figures I already have of the guys. Would've been cool to get toys of the Powerglide they designed or something.
Holy shit. He's perfect.
>>11290499Hot Rod transforms, so this should too
>>11290572god dammit, I miss generic human anime girl faces between the 70s and 90s.
>>11290585I mean, I'm going to buy itBut I'll keep my excitement for the toy, not the 3D model
>>11290578I can't read any of the japanese characters(been meaning to learn but I'm too lazy...), but the bottom of the picture does say "Amalgamation" and "Movable", which I assume is a somewhat clunky, broken english way of saying it can combine and transform. and like, just looking at the combiner limbs you can literally see individual robot limbs visible, shins have prominent robot crotches and thighs. Only thing I'm wondering is how much combiner kibble there's gonna be. Hands and feet are a given, but I'm worried if it's gonna be an SS86 devastator situation where the entire waist and thighs are one big piece. and it's not like you can just turn that into a trailer and call it a day like you could with a bunch of construction vehicles.
IT'S A NEW FRONTIER~
>>11290585the lightpiping had better be good though. the fact that they didn't even fake it in this render is kinda.... concerning.can anyone good in engineering tell me why the little gaps near his knees need to be there? it doesn't look as if the parts underneath (robot mode inner thighs?) extend out into the gap at all, so there could just as easily be plastic there.
>>11290591i can only read the cattycannys.
>>11290403One thing I like about Earth Wars (despite being a shitty gacha game) is that the designs are accurate enough that I can tell exactly what toy they're referencing, and it's cool to have T30, CW, FunPub, Energon, Arms Microns, G2, nu-WFC, Legacy, and MPG all rubbing shoulders >>11290487Looks expensive.>>11290506>>11290572>>11290575Arise, FAGimus Prime
>>11290606You already made the joke I wanted to do.
>>11290606>>11290612why fag? that's a girl. if anything she's optimus dyke, but I don't really see how.
>>11290618Kotobukiya has multiple lines of robot girl model kits, with the oldest being Frame Arms Girl or FAG
>>11290596>It's a Fire Valkyrie>But it's Optimus Prime againMan why does Takara keep making these Crossover figs into Prime variants? If there's one thing that Hasbro does right with the Collaborative series is making all the toys OC characters. At the very least you could've gone full circle and made it Jetfire/Skyfire, which would've fit namewise.
>>11290629Or Blaster
>>11290629That is one thing Hasbro definitely has over Takara, their collabs feel like collabs rather than just making Optimus into a character from said series.That being said I’m definitely getting Shield-D-Prime and I hope we get a Pepsi Convoy out of the United G1 toy mold
>>11290629I do agree in general, but at least from that image getting a weird hybrid design of a Valkyrie crossed with Optimus actually looks pretty cool instead of just "Here's [franchise you like] with an Optimus head stuck on top" or whatever. Hope we can get a better view of it soon.
>>11290506>>11290564>>11290572>ANOTHER fucking Generic Anime Girl Optimus that doesn't transformPass
>>11290506Now please make like 70 more
>>11290506>>11290572>>11290575Can't wait to see who else they touch next.
>>11290506Huh. I don't normally care for the whole Bishoujo-ization thing, but that's kinda cute. Doesn't look like she transforms at all, but so long as she has decent range of motion in her joints, she may be worth picking up.>>11290572Yeah, generic animu face stays in the box. Taking the transforming part of a Transformer is pushing it as it is; taking the robot out of a giant robot is too far over the line.
>>11290658Would like to see actual fembots like Minerva or Arcee done up in this style, but the next one will probably be Megatron or Starscream or another popular TF character.
>>11290367Actually...kinda. They were intended to look like they had been battle-damaged and hastily repaired with scrap metal, hence the patchwork black parts on them (most noticeable on Starscream and Bee).>>11290509No, sadly. It's a shame, because he's an otherwise fun dude.
>>11290663Bumblebee. It's always Bumblebee.
>Her top is cast-off L-l-lewd!
>>11290302That Soundwave looks like it would be perfect for a G1 toy-styled Roadbuster
>>11290629In all fairness, this is one of those times it's understandable since it's Kawamori's franchise and he designed Diaclone Convoy.
>>11290596>>11290629Here we go again. This whole Jetfire thing started with this guy, we're doing it again with a mere headswap. Ore no... UTA O KIKE!!!
>>11290671Uhhhhh how much will this cost? Asking for a friend...
>>11290625ohhhhh right right, I remember making that joke myself.
>>11290671Rattrap-approved.
>>11290671If it were Polynian the cast off reveal of the matrix chamber would be entirely different. Who's making this?
>>11290688>Who's making this?Kotobukiya, the same people that do Frame Arms Girls; the design itself is being done by none other than Shimada Fumikane himself. Incidentally, it's not a figure - it's a model kit.
>>11290663>>11290665First three are always OP Megs Bee.Fourth is a toss-up but will likely be Starscream due to how easy Screamer is to redeco.
>>11290679Oh yeah, I always forget that. Makes it extra funny that Jetfire was advertised as the Autobot leader in Europe initially
>>11290629>>11290637the Japanese only like hero characters and don't really like Transformers at all. It's like how in Japan they don't release full Sentai team toys but in the west people want full teams and villains too.
>>11290710I don't know if it's really a Japan-thing beyond Transformers being less popular in Japan. "Only main hero gets toys" is pretty common for anything with merchandise. Once you get super popular like Dragonball for example you see Figuarts or whatever making toys of basically everyone.
>>11290716that's so backwards to me. the bad guys are WAY more cool most of the time.
>>11290717Transformers is so unique among the typical way toys are marketed in Japan that when they got G1 the campaign used the slogan "You choose your hero, Transformers"
keep on trukkin
Is MP10 worth it
>>11290718interesting.I guess in G1 the only main difference in the bad guys is they often have harsher colors, but in Beast Wars, the bad guys were always WAY more visually interesting. Way out there with colors and spikes and whatever. same deal for Samurai Troopers / Ronin Warriors, but I'll admit there with the Irwin toys, I only bought the good guys.
>>11290717They tend to be way more cool because they don't have to worry about toy company limitations I guess.
>>11290718Oh yeah, previously that's how they shilled Machine Saurer and Death Cross.
>>11290723It's still a landmark figure and I think it holds up to today. But ultimately it depends on what kind of collector you are. Do you need to get the authentic thing for it to feel right to you? Good luck actually finding a real one for a sane price nowadays. At the typical pricetags I see it go for you would just as well look for an official MP-44 variant you like at some point.Lots of KOs out there going for like $70 or whatever and I find it hard to argue against that price, though at that point you might as well put it towards considering one of the 3P ones.
>>11290723He's still one of my favorite MP's ever made
>>11290438What is wrong with that Astrotrain's colors?And please don't say because the wings are mostly gray and not purple, because if you knew the show well you'd know his wings would change from gray to purple and back depending on the episode.
>>11290723He is still one of the best figures ever made
saw this at target today. i didn't realize some of these had the wrong face, kinda like some legacy blasters having the smirking face.
>>11290766That kind of makes him look cooler, like he is completely unfazed about getting his ass kicked
>>11290572>Somehow, pedophilia in transformers has returned I guess the coming next decade will be the dark age of transformers again, just like the period which kiss player was born in
>>11290766>>11290767>"Tis but a flesh wound!"
>>11290780>moe artstyle is now pedophiliaDude, she looks nothing like a child - you don't need honkers the size of your skull to be an adult. Hell, my wife is only an A cup (makes up for it with great thighs), and she's older than me.
>>11290766Are you sure it was shipped like that, and not a case of some rando swapping out the heads 'cause he wanted the screaming one for some reason? With these stupid windowless packages, it can be hard to tell sometimes.
>>11290766I'm a bit sad we didn't get an upgrade kit to turn Ratchet into the Devil Due's Last Autobot.
>>11290792Not him, but yes. The SS86 Ratchet has a silver face, the two pack is grey.
>>11290799I thought this Ratchet's head is screaming? Remember, this is supposed to be the dying version. And how long will it take for us to get an SS86 Windcharger? Not to mention Tailgate could come out in Age of the Primes in short order, since we're still in the Cheapo Plastic Era.
>>11290506>>11290572>>11290575So if this gal scales to FAGs and MDs, how big would that make her Matrix?Is it at least bigger than the GE WFC Optimus Matrix?
>>11290506WHERE'S MY FUCKING CHECK>>11286837
>>11290302I just want them to re-releade Optimus in SG colors.Maybe give us a glyph-blebee?
>>11290596YOU'VE GOT THE TOUCHYOU'VE GOT THE POWER TO THE MUSIC!atarashii yume ga hoshii no saaaa
>>11290808We haven't had a Glyph anything in ages. You'd think they'd go for it.
>>11290804>I thought this Ratchet's head is screaming?It's supposed to be - that's what the original anon meant by 'the wrong face'. There were reports of some of the 'dead' Ratchet and Ironhides were accidentally shipped using their 'alive' headsculpts instead, though it was a rare thing, and this appears to be one of those misprints.
>>11290780it has always been a male-dominated hobby, you neutered mongoloid.
>>11290767That is kind of amazing. he's screaming on the package and then in the box he's like 'meh.'makes me wonder what Toy Story would have been like if it was actually about toys anyone under 60 owned, and if they covered stuff like that.. what would the personality be on a toy who is designed to be locked into one extreme emotion? would he always be screamy even when talking normally, or would he take "the kid is not here" time as an opportunity to relax and be really chill.
>>11290827Probably the latter, considering that in Toy Story the characters' faces aren't necessarily locked into the expression they default to when a human is around. He could be happy, laughing, and making wisecracks in his free time, only reverting to the ghastly screaming expression when someone's looking.
>>11290780This post was made by a low test underage. Ignore it.
>>11290564>link doesnt workDid they have a mental break down over the cute anime girl and delete it?
>>11290302Good. These designs look awful. It doesn't matter it was going to be another Overwatch clone anyway. Should have released your game before Marvel Rivals.
>>11290853The game was gonna be a DMC-like action game I heard
>>11290546>missing link beast wars dudes.Transart is basically that but upscaled.
>>11290546This >>11290856 . The new Transart Silverbolt is literally the exact same 90's toy with the exact same transformation - they just scaled him up to MP size, gave him updated joints, slathered him in silver paint, and added a fold-up paned on his wolf-bird chest to hide the gap that was left there on the old toy in alt mode.
>news.tfw2005.com/2025/01/08/new-transformers-bishoujo-plastic-model-kit-announced-by-kotobukiya-529341>404What they do mean by this?
>>11290852>>11290870I have a good hunch I higher-up contacted them in an attempt to reduce the spread of the news.
>>11290740Unfortunately I can’t disassociate it with pic related
>>11290546The people that are into Beast Wars and the Unicron Trilogy don't have the money for them (for the most part) which is why they keep doing the G1 pandering like they've been doing for the last 10-15 years.I for one am just sick of nostalgia pandering entirely. I'd personally like to see something new and confident that can stand on it's own two feet.
>>11290892You mean like Earthspark?
>>11290766Based stoic Ratchet taking those gunshots like a man.
>>11290879Actually further look into thisSomebody on kotobukiya' Taiwan Facebook jumped the gun- posted the images and the date of the pre order the post has been deleted though
>>11290897Earthspark was definitely not that. The art was uninspired and ugly, it relied too much on dated trends like the gender shit and it didn't feel like there was a remotely strong vision behind it. I feel like the people behind this brand forget they're supposed to be making cool shit for kids
>>11290368>Corona SparkplugAw man, jealous
finally got Ginrai to add to the growing Prime pile
>>11290585Here’s the full breakdown (poor image unfortunately)
>>11290940Second head?And what’s that on the bottom right?
I miss when we got colour schemes like this.
>>11290963were these originally white ultra magnus deco?
>>11290945panties?
>>11290964There was an Ultra Magnus deco release in Energon.
>>11290945I think that pegs into what the one person was asking in the older thread about why he has those 2 cut outs near where his dick would be. It's a harness thing that plugs into the back of Primal I think.
>>11290945I guess regular and gasping in horror.
>>11290935>>11290936Kino
>>11290719Born on a mountainRaised in a cave
>>11290976and then we'll soon have Omega Prime and Star Optimus Prime to add to the pile too
>>11290932>>11290933>>11290935>>11290936The only thing this reflects poorly on is the MPG price. He really is looking like a CHUG and that's not a terrible thing. I always wanted the PMOP update to happen, but I cannot justify paying as much as they're asking for basically the same quality (aside from paint apps) as an expensive mainline release.Still doesn't stop it from looking good though.
>>11290995I would pay $50, perhaps even $60 for PMOP with his trailer. More is simply not justifiable to me.
>>11290995I still can't believe MP60 is as expensive as it is. Carbot sized & it looks worse than most of them. KFC Ginrai is the same price & whatever you think, you at least get your moneys worth
>>11291025MP60 wont suffer from a catastrophic qc issue that breaks it oob tho. looking at you xtb gravestone
>>11291025Yeah while he looks cool, he is not worth that much of a premium. I *almost* find the BW MP prices acceptable. I can only really speak to these because they're the only ones I bought that aren't a KO/improved version of the newer MP-36 Megatron. They started out decently reasonable. I think Primal was like ~$100? I could be wrong. But anyways, none of the BW MPs look like CHUG figures. I know someone will try to argue that, but having MP60 standing next to SS86 Prime and Armada Prime says by looks alone that basically this was a mainline figure that they couldn't fit anywhere so they threw more paint on it and added a tiny version of the power master that doesn't do anything to justify being an MP.
>>11291025That toy head looks like shit on a MP44 body and that Ginrai is absolutely atrocious.
When you buy a new toy of a character, do you get rid of the previous versions, or do you keep an army of multiple versions?
>>11291070>do you get rid of the previous versionsOf course not, that would be stupid unless you hate that toy. Also this is not like some other figures were old versions just don't have anything to offer when a new one comes around, they can have different aesthetics and interesting transformation schemes.
>>11291070I have a box of displaced figures from my collection, stuff like Classics Silverbolt/Astrotrain/Octane, TR Hot Rod, T30 Bumblebee and Trailbreaker. They all have 'better' versions in my collection now, but I still hold onto their predecessors.
>>11290807Did you do any of the actual work on the development of this? No. Then you get nothing.
>>11291109you're no fun
>>11290899He comes from a timeline where the Cons didn't hit anything vital.
>>11290808>>11290816>Numerous good Bee Molds they could make Glyph with>Our best shot recently is the dog Animated Legacy oneIt's not fair
>>11290897There's a single good aspect of Earthspark and we didn't even get him before the entire line and series killed itselfGod damn shame
Energon figures are dumb
>>11290903>relied too much on dated trends like the gender shitI only watched the first season and the gender shit is only like two minutes totalSo it's not that unless the whole second season is that
>>11291228I wasn't happy with most of them as a kid. Optimus and Megatron were fine, the terrorcons were fine, almost all the Autobots were misses. Even as a kid I thought Megatron's tank-gun-sword was retarded.
>>11290932>>11290933>>11290935>>11290936>>11291025Christ he looks even worse somehow$300 turd
>>11290799Oh, you're right! I didn't even think about the color difference! Thanks!
>>11291222Yandere Tarantulas was certainly a thing to do
>>11291235the idea of using his old body as a weapon was cool but it was too damn big, I also wish it could've transformed.
>>11291069>that Ginrai is absolutely atrocious.Nah
>>11291235a lot of the smaller figures were okay. The Terrorcons (as mentioned), the Omnicons.
>>11290297>>11290585>Masterpiece Rattle/RattrapThis better not have light piping.
>3 film flops>canceled game that's been in the works for over a year>less than great crossoversWhat a shit year
>>11291273good. maybe they'll have to concentrate on making solid toys again.
>>11290837sure just wondering how it would affect his personality like buzz having voice lines and shit results in him believing his toy backstory. being sculpted in a scream has gotta do SOMETHING to you
>>11290856>upscaledso you understand my issue.also they are really nothing like the old toys>>11290859okay that one is. but that's not really what i want. i want him improved, he had kinda shitty proportions originally.
>>11291275They will just cut toy budgets.
>>11290973ohhhhhh that makes sense.so he doesn't have his grenade.. I guess that's okay.
>>11291284Are those not the squares under his gun?
>>11291025kentucky fried chicken did transformers?
>>11291222did he have a working transformation in the show or did they cheat>>11291229>there's only a LITTLE cat food in your pie, anon. it's fine!
>>11291266anon it clearly has light piping, you should be worrying that it'll be GOOD lightpiping>>11291298oh OH oh I think you're right! I was assuming those were hands.
>>11291304I believe full workingHe had a bunch of spider bot clones thoWild they never did them
>>11291310oh nice, it looks like the spider head splits apart into pauldrons, the palps are the arms, and the abdomen mostly comes apart into the legs but might cheat slightly. that's not bad.. i'd buy that.
>>11290995>same quality (aside from paint apps) as an expensive mainline releaseThat's already expecting a lot. Ginrai is looking like it has all the MP downsides in that it's a fragile collector's display piece with a ridiculously inflated price, while looking like a CHUG without any of the playability of a well-built CHUG.
>>11291251Yeh.Proportions are a mess and he suffers from the same thing most third party transformers who try to go for minimalistic cartoon aesthetics have, it looks extremely boxy and stiff. It's even more evident with a MP-44 mold at its side, just look how that one's shapes just feel softer, they just "flow". MPs have their own share of problems but as far as sculpt goes they just feel more dynamic even just standing there.That third party Ginrai looks more like a guy in a homemade costume than the actual character.
>>11291228>>11291235>>11291255I’ve got a lot of nostalgia for Energon, it was the first Transformers show I watched since G1, and I genuinely think Super Link is a good show. Can’t deny that it’s dumb though. A whole line of articulated quad-changer combiners? What made Takara think that was possibly going to work? If nothing else it was ambitious.I’d argue though that most everything that wasn’t a combiner of some sort was good, and even some of the Powerlinx guys have a certain charm to them.
>>11291310damn the designs in this show are ugly as shit
>>11291228The big guys are supposed to combine with other big guys
>>11291349There's something about the Energon Autobots that I've been craving lately. Like, if I saw an Inferno or a Rodimus for a reasonable price I'd jump at itThe lesser ones like Prowl and Hot Shot I might even get if it felt like a deal
>>11291324To be fair, Powermaster Optimus has always looked pretty dorky, the KFC is actually pretty accurate to the Marvel comics look for the combined mode at least.But aesthetic preferences aside people should swear off KFC/XTB for the simple reason that the stuff they make have fucking terrible transformation and fit issues like 70+% of the time. I'm still traumatized from their Menasor.
>>11291282AGAIN?
>>11291385The cuts will continue until sales improve.
>>11291385Yup and watch it be like when the fall of Cybertron toys came out
>>11291212Who would be the 4 jobbers to die instead of Ironhide, Ratchet, Prowl, and Brawn? I would say Bumper, Whirl, and 2 of the Omnibots with Whirl being the big guy who was killed, any other replacements for some of the not 100% essential deaths like Starscream or Optimis?
>>11291398One of the throttlebots in Brawn's place, it doesn't matter which one.
>>11290719Optisus Prime
>>11291392>>11291393
>>11291400They didn’t exist yet
>>11291392>No toy! just give money.or however that dog meme goes.
>>11291376As PMOP, KFC done a good job. His weak knees are the biggest issue but he still stands & poses well
>>11291417it's funny, if i'd been introduced to this guy first? i'm sure i'd think that is what a normal truck robot chest looks like.but because i've seen eleventy billion optimus primes, I am stuck in "windows = pecs, grille = abs" mindset. and that mindset makes Super Ginrai look completely wrong.
>>11291322Yea I can see it>>11291352He is literally the only good design and they didn't do himI heard the newer JP version of Prowl was good, DIDN'T yellow and was solidBut then it apparently got cancelled?But yet still released?Meanwhile NA version cucked him and he barely looks like a Police Car and he's that ass Rodimus mold
>>11291417I think Kentucky Fried Chicken did a better job with the chest. The truck just doesn't sit right in the chest of the MP, I dunno. Like it just sticks out too much and looks too small when it really should be taking up most of the chest.
>>11291438that is also exactly how I thought they should have done the handsthumbs are the chelicerae, fingermittens are the palps... then they can just rotate into a proper pincer-hand for robot mode. the original toy was far too clumsy with it
>>11291411Neither did Misfire but I vote either one of the Powerdashers or Jumpstarters if we’re limited to pre-1986
>>11291404excellent.
>>11291441They needed to stylize it a bit more like Fans Hobby for the poking out chest to work
>>11290940They're not giving him his bombs? They're one of his iconic weapons that Mainframe kept him using in his Transmetal body.
>>11291448boy those are some tiny thighs and huge shins, but the left one seems to have the opposite problem.. he's a very.. slender super robot.
>>11291449I hope anon is right and those are the squares below his gun. but I wanna say the grenades were indeed silver in his original body, just as they are in his transmetal one.
>>11291417He’s pretty good, I’m going to 3D print some washers for the ratchets which fix the knees at least
>>11290297So which will this be redecoed into first, Packrat or the white rat from “Victory”
>>11291470Did they even recolor Dinobot, Rhinox, and Blackarachnia?
>>11291470i would love a white rat OC. i want them to make that. god dammit god dammithe is arcee's nephew after all, a white and pink one is appropriate god dammit.
>2025>still no Moucee
>>11291476Technically we have Labrat, though we’ve only seen his Transmetal form
>>11291482well now that's not quite right, but...
>>11291483oooh I forgot about this guyi really hope we get a new chug one and he comes with an actual weapon.
>>11291488okay those are cute.
>>11291489>purrceedig it>robot body is significantly larger than the cat and that's with the cat arms not even contributinguh>sandalswhat the fuck
>>11291482>mouse nose right on the cooteryou know that's right
>>11291482>2025>still no Icee
>>11291472No but I assume that’s because they don’t have easy redecoes like Cheetor and Rattrap unless you count Predacon Rhinox or Darkarachnia
>>11291517Cool that you got the Armada Unicron partner minicon, I never had that one.>>11291523>2025>still no soccer mom Arcee
lol hasbro is unironically collapsing
>>11291535>Hasbro dies before I get my G2 Legacy Stunticons finishedNo...
>>11291304That doesn't work at all because the anon said it relied TOO MUCH on something that was only like 75 seconds in total. We're not talking about one thing ruining the whole product, we're talking about how much a show did something you stupid nigger
>>11291470Not even Kingdom Core Rattrap got this treatment. Packrat would've been so easy.
>>11290546Did re release beast wars sell well?I think the big ones like Optimus Primal and Megatron still hold up well, but the smaller ones could use an update.
>>11291545Relax, if Hasbro dies TakaraTomy would probably swoop in and buy them out and things would mostly stay the same
>>11291548you really didn't follow that metaphor? at all? Woof, I'll try to make it clearer.a tiny bit of cat food in your pie is too much, even if you insist "it's only the size of a pea" as you're dying saying "it's only 75 seconds"I'll have a different dessert, thanks. I have many options.
>>11291560considering they sold them at the same price as their modern compatriots despite being reused molds and cut corners everywhere, if they sold even a tenth of them I think they made their money back.>>11291562as you're doing*
>>11291556I blame that on Core “not selling well” same reason we never got Diver/Spittor despite Gamakichi clearly being a retool of their mold
>>11291565i just realized what bugs me herethighs too close together for such a fat body.also I doubt this could share more than one or two parts with spittor
>>11291570I don’t know, besides the back, head, and feet it seems pretty spot on, but I could be wrong
>>11291574you know what, it's a lot closer than I remember.
>>11291574its crazy how little they managed to actually improve... other than that hole on the neck being covered up i see no upgrades over this
>>11291583I guess you could say having normal hands is an upgrade. Honestly, I don’t mind that much because I like the original Spittor mold and it’s a core class toy
Hasbro Pulse Asia is getting shut down
>>11291025Cool bootleg you fucking piece of shit>>11291251>>11291376>>11291417Cool bootleg
>>11291349>A whole line of articulated quad-changer combiners? What made Takara think that was possibly going to work? If nothing else it was ambitious.Aaron archer talks about how during the Beast Era, Takara kept trying to show gimmick ideas to Hasbro that just didn't work because there's less space on beasts than vehicles. The UT is basically them using years of ideas they couldn't do before, for better or worse. Energon is peak growing pains because it's inbetween them trying to do gimmicks that work better with more g1 style bricks, and more articulated toys. If you imagine the Energon Autobots as more brick, Brave style toys, they'd work better.
>>11291612Oh really?>>11291535
>>11291561Hopefully hey get rid of all the woke shit and fire all the trannies and women.
>>11291612It’s weird that it’s all of Asia and not just a couple of countries. It’s especially weird given most of the biggest reveals and events have been in Asia recently
>>11291618Because toys r us still exists in Asia they value stores unlike Americans relying on Amazon for everything
>>11291617https://www.takaratomy.co.jp/english/company/csr/story/2022/ti_dei_initiatives.htmlI seriously doubt it, especially if stuff like that doesn’t affect toy sales
>>11291624>Emilia HoganGet rid of all the Americans. Stop hiring Americans. It's always Americans doing this shit. I'm so glad Elon is flooding America with pajeets.
>>11291618All the Asian Pulse branches were handled by Hasbro HK.Which was kinda dumb since Hasbro HK already handled exclusive distribution through their existing channels (toy shops, facebook dealers, etc). All Pulse added was HK air postage fees + selling at full Asian MSRPs.
>>11291535>>11291612It's a death spiral. They make shoddy products/decisions, budgets get slashed and actual creatives get laid off and the jew for even more money on their shoddy products and people buy even less.Marvel Legends especially have been dogshit IMO. There's a decent figure once in a while but if you think Transformers is bad with the redeco/repaints you should see how many ugly disproportionate motherfuckers there are in Marvel Legends because they insist on using the same body piece for like 20 releases or some shit.
>>11291618>all of AsiaNot necessarily, Pulse Asia itself isn't really that big, just being Hong Kong, Malaysia, Singapore, and TaiwanThe rest of Asia doesn't have Pulse if I'm not mistaken
>>11291639>>11291644Huh, never realized that. Maybe they’re trying to find a better way to sell directly to Asia. I’m surprised they’ve never let Takara handle Asia, but I assume there’s some kind of contract against that
>>11291614also they had at least one designer who had no fucking idea how toys work because he was pitching dinobot turning into both a raptor and a snake or weird shit like that.
>>11291617now now, we don't want them on the government teatthey still get to work, they just get treated the same as men. see how they like it. also start turning that 'hostile workplace' bullshit back on them where it belongs.then make good toys. in fact maybe just make good toys and whatever with the rest. There is no way this is going to be the last time society does a big dumb and makes up new dumb shit that ruins everything. it's gonna keep happening forever. Just enjoy good toys.
>>11291561Or even better. TakaTomy having full reigns on the franchise would be an era to live in.
>>11291612>>11291535>Earthspark a total failure>TF One a complete bomb>Kills planned sequel talks>Toy line for TF One failing>SS86 is majority bad repaints/remolds now>Haven['t had a unique mold for SS86 since Bee which was a QC flop>Before that a full year and a half since unique mold>Can several other projects>Reactivate dead>4 games in a row are dead on arrival slop>Shit up the line with worse QC>Yellow continues into Legacy>Haslab's are failures on after another>Omega Prime still not close to shipping>Other lines like Marvel and Star Wars are barely held together>D&D dead>Power Rangers dead entirely>Nerf basically dead>Gi Joe barely doing wellIt's never been more over
>>11291655>Haven['t had a unique mold for SS86 since BeeUh, why are you talking like SS86 Bee isn't a very recent figure?
>>11291657>ESL-Kun
>>11291655i mean, everything is overthey could have been making right choices for the last solid decade and it wouldn't save them.
>>11291647Everything Asia outside Japan is handled by Hasbro, including things like MPs, TT-mall exclusives and even Diaclone Reboot.
>>11291613Hi Athena
>>11291661>even Diaclone RebootWhere the hell is my Diaclone, Hasbro?
>>11291562>me after I eat the catfood.
>>11291562>>11291564For a second I thought "since when does a bit of cat food kill you??"
>>11291655>Haslab's are failures on after anotherMaybe we're not seeing the same HasLabsMarvel and Star War tend to squeak byBut Transformers, GI Joe and GhostBusters double their minimum back countOmega Prime almost tripled it
>>11291548>woke ideologues can have a little propaganda, as a treat!I disagree, and evidently so does the audience at large. I'd say "Japan doesn't have to deal with this bullshit in their giant robots" but then I remember the latest gundam was literally all about a gay couple lmao
Best Optimus alt mode?
>>11290897NTA but I liked it. It had a neat premise and I liked the direction it took Megatron
>>11291670>>11291668oh my godthe show is not represented by you, it's represented by the PIEthis isn't rocket surgery
>>11291676Truck
>>11291676Gorilla Truck
>>11291675seriously?was it at least the way anime has done gays for the last 50 years where they're mostly making fun of it? like they're always really terrible people and they're treated like aliens.
>>11291681But what kinda truck?
>>11291682did they think about transformation at all?
>>11291685Apparently a physical prototype exists/existed somewhere so maybe
>>11291686i have my doubts it looked like this. i see no 1:1 of any of the parts, and the robot mode has huge discs
I redesigned Prime in MS Paint for shits and giggles, but I'm trying to think of what kinda melee weapon I can give him. I already figured out his ranged weapons (Rounded top of his Mack anthem alt mode becomes dual blaster-looking thingies. Was originally going to turn that into a samurai armor looking thing but I thought it was stupid)
https://x.com/tfa_studios/status/1877412517426672065?t=17EAQ8tXZCGuhhkDR0Hyaw&s=19reactivate was a scam all along LMAOPooooor hasbro
>>11291676Semi truck is the best, it doesn't matter if cabover or longnose. But, it HAS to be boxy. Soft and round semis are horrendous abomonations, and affronts to God.Sorry classicsfags, but it includes that terrible alt mode too
>>11291684A red one, with wheels, and windows.
>>11291655I hate how these are all somehow even worse in context>Earthspark a total failureIt actually had a fanbase with S1 despite how fucking ugly it was, only for S2 to completely nuke all the goodwill it managed to cultivate with the downgrade in animation and the retarded plot.>TF One a complete bomb>Kills planned sequel talksIt was so easy to fix that but the dogshit trailer completely killed interest since everyone thought it would MCU tier shit>Toy line for TF One failingIt's baffling how dogshit the "main" toyline for it is, almost all of it is gimmick cheap shit and it does nothing but drown the otherwise "fine" main robots.>Reactivate deadAfter 8 years of wasting money for nothingHow did hasbro manage to fuck up this bad on all fronts
>>11291698Sad because One was really good
>>11291680I don't care about your cat. It can die of tuberculosis.
>>11291698in what way did it resemble mcu?it looked like kiddy fare
>>11291647>find a better way to sell directly to AsiaThat could be the caseWith Europe its pretty easy, Hasbro already had a branch in the UK and all they needed to do was work with the EU and boom they now have access to markets in 27 different EU countriesWith Asia there isn't really any large and unified economic union with similar laws to help establish markets in multiple countries. Since Japan is off limits due to Takara having full reign there, I would figure its probably been difficult for Hasbro to establish pulse in the rest of Asia
>>11291705The tone, the overly quippy dialogue, the voices.they somehow managed to twist all of the scenes in the trailer to make the movie look like a self aware "comedy" action, which falls right in line with how the MCU is.
>>11291709Exactly this. TFone should've presented it's tone more honestly. FFS there's a scene where a guy gets ripped in half
>>11291655>>Power Rangers dead entirelyand that one still manages to be the most bafflingly retarded fuckup, they had the perfect crossover served on a silver platter and they still managed to do literally nothing with it before unceremoniously shelving it.>b-b-but bandaiDo a fucking repaint at the very least, PR fans at the time were so starved for a decent megazord i'm sure a repainted volcanicus could have still sold, or fuck, just paint prime with the dinozord colors and give him a dino looking sword and it still would have sold.
>>11291698The One toyline is baffling. The Prime Changers are actually decent toys in my experience but the lineup makes no fucking sense- They have Optimus and Bumblebee (makes sense so far), then Alpha Trion, Sentinel Prime and a fucking Quintesson. Yes, they didn't even make Megatron for whatever reason.The Studio Series is also decent and you can consider them the "definitive" toys for One and they at least made some sense by releasing Optimus and Megatron, but Bumblebee and Elita-1 are still not out and they won't be out for another like 4 or 5 months. So you need to wait like half a year until after the movie is out of theaters to collect the 4 main characters. Elita-1 especially does not exist as a toy in any of the lines aside from this one so you can't even mix and match between the different lines or something. Doesn't really make a lot of sense if your goal was to get kids into the franchise.
>>11291709that's not what it looked like to me, or what I remember everyone in here saying it looked like, when talking about how misleading the trailer is.
>Bumblebee but he looks like a Showa-era Kamen Rider, head-wiseYay or nay
>>11291713I feel like Hasbro PR was doomed from the start because they already have a working relationship with Takara meaning a partnership with Bandai wouldn’t work very well. It makes me wish Mattel bought PR instead
>>11291713let's be realpower rangers has been squandered potential for 30 years. Saban is allergic to spending money and Disney practically invented screwing up a franchise you own the rights to. plus they put in a dyke in the absolute wrongest possible way
>>11291719works for me. i hate what they usually do with his face.
>>11291717I swear someone on the HasTak team has it out for female Transformers. They’re not allowed to have anything bigger than a deluxe and the main female character of One has her toy released months after the movie came out
>>11291719Sounds good.
>>11291717>They actually produce (1) single interesting gimmick idea for the line>Proceed to still bury it in all of the other crap that has already shown to warm shelves anywaysWorst part is the prime changers are actually really good, the optimus is even comparable to the studio series in a way, it would be the perfect figure for a kid and yet it's borderline impossible to find since it's competing with all of the waves of gimmick crap they flooded stores with.Sucks how even the one good idea they had is the least common one, these are actually pretty fun desu
>>11291719Sounds atrociousNo more fucking Bumblebee's
>>11291734for a cheap shellformer this is kind of appealing..
>>11291735i'm with you therelet's make a new guy, make him kamenridery, name him Gashopper, make him the new Bumblebee
>>11291738Just call him Cyber Rider or somethingMake him a sick Cyclone Design, Or go classic CycloneMaybe some Shin Rider vibes and give him like shotguns or something that can attach to the Vehicle to turn it into the Turbo Mode or w/eAccessory of a Scarf Piece and a Cyclone Energy for Rider Kick/Punch posing
>>11291739would he turn into a motorcycle?
>>11291723I think they are just lazy, they don't want to make a mold that can't be reused till it crumbles to dust.There's a reason the legacy fembots are so bad, they can't even do the token thigh and head resculpting anymore
>>11291740YesLike TF One SS Elita but not dogshit
>>11291735What about a Glyph or a Stinger>>11291738Gashopper, heh, that’s clever. I’m guessing he turns into a motorcycle>Captcha:MP44
>>11291488Jerboa arcee is best
>>11291745>GlyphAnon pleaseDon't give me hope
>>11291744cycles are really hard to do well, the tires are so much real estate that really can't be turned into anything if they still function. they just have to GO somewhere.>>11291745his evil twin brother is Gaschopper. you'd think he also turns into a motorcycle, but no. helicopter. and their cousin Gascopter is a newt.
>>11291685Wasn't that supposed to take place after BM? He probably transformed at cellular level like the technorganic bots
>>11291753gross!
