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>>11302091>>11302099The OG Terrorsaur mold was great, but Lasorbeak wore it better. The weird AOE Swoop from that 2-pack with Bumblebee had some cool colors, too.And then there was Fractyl, but you're never finding him for a decent price...
>>11302470Forgot my pic, of course.
Side view of Arcee
>>11302481DFC
>>11302459HOLY SHIT i just saw this on amazon and it was an instant buyI guess it's an old news thing but i just saw thisfucking happiness! I will be taking this tiny former with me everywhere.there is something so cool about old ones and im glad this was reissued
>>11302491HOLY SHIT LOOK AT HOW FUCKING SIMPLE AND STUBBY HE IS- ME RED SWOOP - ME SEE NOTHING!
>>11302481I can't believe they're making a marketable line of ugly Transformers. That's not an insult btw. I dunno why but I fucking love these things. I didn't buy Bee/Cliffjumper and am skipping Sunstreaker, but I have to pick this up. I'm compelled. It's so stupid.The toy deco Prime is just so good. Someone needs to stop them from weaponizing nostalgia and alternate timeline FOMO like this. Next thing you know they're going to make the Missing Link Unicron.
>>11302496It reminds me of handling G1 Kup when I was a kid and how that ugly toy was new to me at the time, the first (and only at the time) representation of a character from that cool movie. It'll be neat to handle a "new" movie-era transformer that I've never touched before.
>>11302496I was born in the 90s and I think it's cool so it can't just be nostalgia. Although I did have Blitzwing and Snarl so maybe. Diecast was a lost art...
>>11302471>>11302470i really dig these red and blackWhat a fun little toy he is.i see amazon has other reissues like Tigatron and bigger ones.Might get the big monke next - that toy factor and playability of the old Primal is fantastic.
What do you guys think of Basara Prime?
>>11302496My favorite element to it is the "warts and all" approach to it. It's not just "G1 but with joints". It's "EXACTLY that G1 with joints, no corrections" Like look at Sunstreaker. They didn't streamline his arms or anything, they said his wonky fucked up arms are the same wonky fucked up arms they've always been.
>>11302517Need more info to have an opinion.
>>11302513I wish I didn't miss out on the Age of Extinction repaint of this guy and the other weird ones
I just saw the legends Kup for the first time and it's kinda funny this takara release actually looks like an old Japanese man compared to hasbros old western man face.
>>11302517This image looks cool, but how much it is will decide if I get it
>>11302518Exactly. And the BB and Cliff heads are still stuck to the shiny plastic. Shit...I'm gonna buy Bee aren't I? I really wonder what will happen when they eventually do the figures with the stupid stickers as their head.
>>11302481it's kinda growing on me how jank she looks
>>11302481That's the least egregious backpack I've ever seen on an Arcee, they really gotta figure a way to adapt this sort of transformation for a moden Generations style Arcee. Maybe do a AOTP "G1 Toy Universe" budget Missinglink Arcee same way they did Prime
>>11302541>I really wonder what will happen when they eventually do the figures with the stupid stickers as their head.Probably the ones I'd like to see the most are those "flip up" transformers like Seaspray and Warpath, just because I would imagine the figures as having two fully articulated legs but still having the one "foot" which would just be a funny design.
>>11302517I like the idea a lot, Basara somehow either becoming or heavily influencing a Autobot leader is cool. Definitely can't wait to see it in colour and see how it transforms too. A pipedream would be a VF-17 to match him.
>>11302631With how Sunstreaker's got actual stock photos and marketing going "you can pretend it's a G1 toy!" I imagine they'd let you peg the feet back together for a unipod.
>>11302614Well yeah, that's what happens when you actually use the bulk of the alt mode to mkae the robot. Something many fembots do not do, and yet anons are repeatedly in disbelief at how they often end up being such horrible backpackformers
>>11302518I’m surprised they did Cordon but not Spin-Out, especially since he’s also the first Diaclone Car Robots toy
>>11302481>Fake knee wheelsDroped.
>>11302690Spin-Out will probably be the more deluxe version they release in a bit
>>11302091>>11302099There was a set of reissues for $43 on Amazon last year that seemed like a scam, but was real, random stickers and all. I took the chance and it was worth itPlastic quality is worse but if you're not hamhanding they should be ok, and for the price it's a bunch of fun toys(even Retrax). Hopefully another set like this springs up
>>11302517feels like a completely missed opportunity like most of the other crossovers arenothing about this looks macross other than having a guitar
I kinda wanna see a Gamera Transformers crossover.Gamera technically IS a Transformer, just one not made of metal.
>>11302517If I cared about Basara I might care more than I do.
>>11302736What is that from?
>>11302736They made a modern Gamera, friend to the children?
>>11302751Gamera 3. He’s always been able to go into a sort of flight mode, the designers just decided to get more creative by giving him the ability to transform his body to do other things.Such as>His arms growing out into wings>Elbow spikes>Controlling his shell plates to do shit like turn into a buzzsaw or create air brakes>>11302760Anon that’s from 1999.
>>11302765Oh, I don't remember his shell being flat at any point in Iris.
>>11302765>Anon that’s from 1999.That's relatively new and I'm going to keep pretending that it wasn't very long ago.
>>1130277426 years man.
Who are (You) gonna put (or getting to put) with Trypticon?
>>11302760Theres the netflix anime from 2 years ago, it was alright.>>11302736I want the YUGIOH Catapult turtle turned into a TF.
>>11302776You shut your mouth I'm not old yet>>11302804That I'll have to check into, I had no idea
>>11302459>New threads are made on page 9 or 10 or at image limit
>>11302471yeah i love that guy. i'm tempted to put him back on the shelf, if my shelves weren't so full>>11302481I love flat chicks.>>11302614I'm with you dude. reuse what they have learned here>>11302698wait isnt this based on an old prototype? would that have been the first transformer with fake kibble?
>>11302807your kup has had a hard life
Alchemist Prime
>>11302814>would that have been the first transformer with fake kibble?The original didn't had fake wheels, who knows if it could roll, maybe thats why the added another set, the prototype was still far from being ready for production.
>>11302496>>11302511it's just nice to see something a little unusual. current CHUG lines are so samey.>>11302527god, me too. i didn't know.maybe they'll throw us a really odd bone and give us a repaint of his new toy
>>11302804I think Rebirth was the best Kaiju thing on Netflix because it didn’t try to add any other gimmicks and just gave us what we came for. That being Gamera beating the shit out of evil Kaiju
>>11302517wow another optimus prime!
>>11302774This is the only place on the whole wide web that I don't feel like the oldest fucker around.
I feel like Skybound Optimus is my favorite version of the character because he’s just so fucking pure and it hurts to see him go through so much
>>11302825i wasn't aware we'd gotten a clear enough photo of the original to say that so definitively.
>>11302843He really is the best Optimus has been in a long time
>>11302851He’s the embodiment of the “Strong enough to be gentle” kind of portrayal because he’s both an absolute badass (Judo throws Devastator) but one of the kindest versions of the character (Transforms for a sick little kid)
>>11302845This, but keep in mind that the toy in the picture is actually two non-transformable models. That's why Missing Link had to make tweaks (like the now visible wheels on her shoulders or panels on her arms)
>>11302822I got him at a garage sale as a kid in the early 90s, he's been with me ever since. I put a lot of miles on those little rubber wheels.
>>11302875>>11302822A well-enjoyed toy is a happy toy
>>11302863so the suggestion is that the wheels in these knees were not fake?
>>11302824Awww, no mustache...
>>11302889Cause it didn't transform, yes. Thats a super early mock up, almost a concept figure.
>>11302899okay butthe idea that the fake knee wheels is new... seems shaky to me, vs the idea that the fake knee wheels were always there, but the able-to-transform part is new.
>>11302814>would that have been the first transformer with fake kibble?Magnus got that with the fake wheels on his fore arms (toy only details), those later got callbacks on Armada Overload and IDW.
>>11302875Wonder if I still have mine. I loved his transformation. So simple yet so satisfying.
My first time doing a custom. I learned a lot from the experience, and I'm sure the next one will come out a lot better.
>>11302965Get stepped on, mini-nerd.
>>11302965I like the concept, and that head is cute. Where's it from? I think a CW Cyclonus would be an even better fit, then she could combine with her squad.
>>11302965>>11302967Stop repainting dudes they look like trannies, just make a new torso for the One studio series toy that elongates and makes the body tall
>tfw there was another titan - Tidal Wavei swear i never seen him. however he kinda looks weird. like one of those $20 modular car transformers.
>>11302923What is with those proportions in the left pic
>>11302974I just buy online.
>>11302970I got it from this shop on ebay. It ended up being a little smaller than I expected, but I think the kingdom cyclonus mold is just kinda big for a voyager. https://www.ebay.com/itm/286101321906
>>11302875S O V L
>>11302923ahhhh so that goes all the way back to diaclone. Kind of surprising, where do the actual wheels end up? I see some on his feet but I know there's more. Oh I suppose some of the wheels are on the inner optimus mold.
>>11302978$21 for a head, a little steep but it does look nice. I still need a replacement head for the headless Legacy Metalhawk I got last year for $5, but I haven't seen anybody put out a .stl for one yet.
>>11302965I've seen way worse, this looks neatdid you use one of those chrome paint markers for the silver? It kinda looks like you did the same thing I did where it didn't come out completely smoothly.
>>11302973So do you have a problem with characters like Glyph, Burn Out, or Small Foot?
>>11302721Damn they made a lot of them. I never seen those online. I'd love to get the Retrax.however i'm happy with just 1 simple transformer - i wanted a tiny sturdy simple beast wars guy for so long.I have some Core Class/legends class but never wanted to carry any of them with me.This Terrorsaur with pteranodon part being just a single CHUNK of red plastic is absolutely perfect for me.PS:Really want an Optimus Primal reissue now. it looks like a sturdy heavy no bullshit >TOY< that i will like just lying around to play with.I have so many transformers but i treat them like collectable figures. But these reissues (or older 2000s formers) feel like fun sturdy toy i miss so much
>>11302986Excuse me?
>>11302975"Super mode".
>>11302923>>11302992>IdwGross, that's the shitty comic with a green minishit inside of Magnus. God what a terrible comic.
>>11302993He said wearing another man's corpse wasn't enough so he put doubled his corpse armor and now Swerve is trying not to dead name him (it's a trans allegory).
>>11302993>what a terrible comic.True, but some concepts and designs were cool, Magnus being a symbol with more than one bot wearing the armor like soldiers wore Captain America's cowl worked.I also loved the murder arcee design, even when the lore behind it is complete ass.
>>11302995Excuse me? Transgender mental illness? What?
>>11302997>Magnus being a symbol with more than one bot wearing the armor like soldiers wore Captain America's cowl worked.This is retarded. Holy Shit just change the robot, capeshit has completely ruined comic books no wonder diamond distribution went bankrupt and can't sell shit especially since manga is way more diverse with its story telling
>>11302995You're a trans allegory, the magnus armor was just that, an armor, a pretty basic concept in a franchise with organic looking pretender suits.
>>11302999Saying this shit when the whole transformers lore and personalities came from a couple of Marvel guys spit balling over diaclone toys.
>>11302967>>11302965Practice your strokes and consider using thinner paint.
>>11303003They didn't come up with murder prime Micheal bay did, and his is the lasting image not some forgotten no name comic book guy a stupid netflix documentary talked about.
>>11303004that's not the issue, you can tell the paint is plenty thin. it's the use of re brushing over areas that are still wet. Most likely from a marker.
>>11302923Is this some schizo theory?Why do you think they’re wheels?
>>11302999>manga is way more diverse with its story tellingI read enough manga to tell you that you're full of shit.Almost every popular thing is just some variation of something you've read already, and often worse and more cliché. I can think of maybe 3 things I've read in the past 5 years that actually felt original.
>>11302481My biggest gripe is that the wheels are on the front side of her shoulders, I wish they could have been on the back. I also don’t live that her hands are covered by car panels. But aside from that it’s great and I’ll buy at least the “prototype” colors.
>>11303010>read enough manga to tell you that you're full of shit.Better than every single American cartoon full of woke shit and ugly niggers. Anime is nicer to look at like funny blue archive.
>>11303006>and his is the lasting imageYou wish, fag
>>11303015Nah I'm right. Americans can't make anything good anymore too many brain dead wokies about.
>>11302518I’m just pissed that Bumblebee—and seemingly Sunstreaker—don’t have a waist swivel. Really hope Arcee has one.
>>11303017Are the wokies in the room with us right now, Anon?
>>11303012yeah that's more of a modern thing, isn't it. having the panels extend out past the hands to hide them.Back then fists were just plugged in separately. then later flip-outy ones were invented.
>>11303020Boke. They are everywhere. You're not helping by suggesting otherwise.Sometimes people are paranoid for good reason. Look what happened over the last 18-ish years when we dismissed them as no big threat.
>>11303020Nah they're in the writers room for earth spark and wrote a transgender episode about pronoun which is why the show is cancelled lol. When hasbroke goes bankrupt I hope Takara make a lewd anime full of fan service for actual men
Blatant trolling, fuck off
>>11303028>Takara>giving a shit about TransformersYou're cute.
>>11303031G1 remakes with updated articulation is selling out better compared to the gay pronoun owl from wokespark with the two ugly nigger children.
>>11303037They might make toys, but no one at Takara (or anyone in Japan who isn't Sakamoto) gives a fuck about the lore, characters, or any kind of tie-in media. And haven't since Go!Well, maybe Studio Trigger.
>>11302923>fake wheels on his fore armsthose are not wheels, there's a metal panel with a spike on it on top of them.they're just random machinery griebles.>>11302896Looks like a mustache to me, and the post even says "it has the head of the transformers guide, the colors of the aligned continuity, and the proportions of cyberverse""The transformers guide" no doubt refers to "Transformers: The Ultimate Guide" which the picture you posted is the only image of him.
>>11303044Oh, splendid then.
>>11303040>LoreFuck lore this is /toy/ not /lore/ comic books went broke no one buys your ugly shit you retard
>>11302812He wasn't even trying at this point: >>11302458
>>11303037I liked Earthspark because of three reasons>Optimus and Megatron having different characterizations than normal which is welcome>The Terrans. The idea of transformers who were born and raised on earth is kinda cute, and it getting to the point that they call humans “Mom and Dad” is weirdly endearing to me>I just like it’s vibe
>>11303046You hoped Takara would make a sexy anime.They will never make a TF anime again (unless Trigger begs them, maybe) because they don't care. In Japan TF is a dumb children's franchise.
>>11303050I'm glad cunny kiss players got made, I'm glad kotobukiya made anime girl prime model kit that isn't tied to any specific lore and we get more sexy anime girl model kits for a chunky coom
>>11303049>I liked earth spark because I am a gay nigger and saw myself in the gay robots because I am gay and the nigger children because I am a nigger it was a cute wholesome chungus moment in a show for babiesYet those babies would rather watch skibidi toilet, which is also getting a Michael bay movie, who Michael bay has talked about following skibidi toilet himself and is excited for the film he's Gona make with the creator
>>11303045this should help.not sure if the bottom is a goatee or a chin
>>11303053Hehe, thats funny.
>>11303031they don't have to give a shit about transformers. they just need to give a shit about money
>>11303047oh is THAT what that was about
>>11303049Those do sound like good parts. Nothing ever fully disappears, so maybe we'll get those themes used in a saner show.
>>11303051chunky coom eh
>>11303047>>11303060What an unpleasant, unwelcomed and ultimately unneeded person to have bumming around /tfg/ with the rest of us. I wish he'd leave.
>>11303045The mustache was already confirmed, it's on the package art for Star Prime.
>>11303079Good.>>11303053I just like this picture though. It looks like he fell asleep and someone scribbled a mustache and goatee on his face.
>>11303079kitty! kitty prime!>that forehead gridcheetor!
>>11303080Cybertronian prank: Weld extraneous kibble pieces onto your friend while he's recharging and see how long it takes him to notice he's got wings now.
>>11303049>The idea of transformers who were born and raised on earthFor what it's worth, it's not really a new idea. It's been done before in comics.
>>11303066i need to make a fat girl tf
>>11302999raging about superheroes is genuine mental illness at this point. Just pure contrarianism
>>11303092Nah it's funny watching comic books fail, no one buys the transformers comics either. But everyone did watch the bump of chicken music video
>>11303097you're that same retard that always spergs out over every mention of IDW over culture ware shit right?
>>11303101You know it is, quit replying to his gay shit
>>11303101Idw introduced a lot of cancer, a lot of bad cancer that needs to be cut out. Thankfully all those retards never worked again and simply failed. They should have learned to code instead, seeing how Elon needs to import Indians to do that
Told you
>>11303066Stop giving me fap folder material
>>11303108Maybe you need a hug box have you tried Reddit?
>>11302999>Trips wasted on retarded weebisms.
>>11303020Boco, I know you're retarded, so I'll say this once. Stop replying to him.
>>11303052You’re fun
>>11303089I mean, to make them an entire faction who don’t even know of Cybertron
>>11302513>>11302471This toy is so fun.I reviewed it last week on YouTube for fun. I take an old Transformer toy every week and make a point to play with and do a video for it. Last week I picked Terrorsaur. He's super cool. Fantastic in fact. If you wanna hear someone yammer about loving the toy, or want to see the modern update, check it out. https://youtu.be/fS3pJMwS38U?si=ZOYxi-eNZ_-GsLEJI would really love to see his Transmetal design get another go. I had that one as a kid too and it was really awesome.
>>11303128Did that too.https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Generation_2:_Redux
>>11302974remind me what the issue with the knees was again. Is it this joint they say explodes?
>>11303132the old one definitely wins in beast mode, but I'm glad we got a new one. wish they'd made him bigger and reversed his transformation. can't be that hard. wish a chinaman had done it.fun video.>Transmetal design another gonow how different is it allowed to be before you'd be unhappy? because I think that thing needed a LOT of work. like firstly get rid of the stupid huge fingers.
>>11303135The ratchet teeth are held on by a few thin tabs instead of being inset in the leg, so they shear off super easily and become nonfunctional
>>11303135It pops and creates mustard gas if you bend it too far
>>11303128Original dinobots were that.Idw had whole colony planets where the citizens didn't know anything about cybertron, they were each their own factionsI think Armada minicons were like that too.
>>11303145>I think Armada minicons were like that too.Nah, they were born on Cybertron and left when they got sick of being prizes.
>>11302807>>11302875Absolute soul
Reactivate Bee is alrightI did the aesthetic but the lack of waist is a bummer
>>11302973>Stop repainting dudes they look like trannies>Just buy this dude and repaint it into a femaleLolLmao even
>>11303140wait a minutei see no ratchet here. I just see four slots in the purple part and four tabs in the silver part that wouldn't even fit in them, yet some how one of them did and broke off. there's no teeth or anything.
>>11303146but they did still show us other planets with transformers unrelated to cybertron's goings-on, so that was neat. i like jungle planet.>>11303150he said make a new torso. don't put words in people's mouths ya wanker.
>>11303150Sounds like a retool based on the description.
>>11303152He's recommending people buy the TF One MegatronHe's trolling
>>11303133And yet I feel like the Terrans having different behavior compared to transformers who come from Cybertron is suitable
>>11303167If nothing else they'd be a lot more careful around humans and human structures than their Cybertronian forbearers. They'd probably care about Earth culture stuff as much as the next human does, stuff Cybertronians either think is quaint or banal. I could easily picture a terran-born robot scaled smaller to fit human-sized spaces who was raised watching sports and has a favorite team. To him the Autobots/Decepticons would be as alien as they are to us.
>>11303089Honestly I also think Earthspark is the one that’s on the right track so to speak. But if I had to work with the concept, I’d focus more on them knowing and adopting human customs due to being raised around and by humans. I also kinda like the weird adoption angle, to the point of referring to some as “Mom and dad” because that’s the kind of relationship they have
>>11303177To them it’s like meeting a Klingon. It looks kinda like me but not really
>>11303143So that's the explosion I heard from my bedroom.
>>11303155>He's trollingIs he?
>>11303189>Massive off color chest>Ugly legs>Atrocious hands>Those giant feetYesHe is
>>11303135>>11303140theres a guy who made a fix for it, hes selling them on ebay.
>>11303153The original only had a new head and chest flap, what made her popular was Sakamotos art.
>>11302973>>11303189I actually have that 3d printed head too. One of these days I'll get my hands on Megaempress' actual toy.
>>11303194i'm pretty sure those feet are because of perspectivethis looks pretty cool to me. I don't really get the obsession with making femegatron, but have fun
>>11302990The flipchangers are all pretty fun. I was gonna suggest ones that are still cheap, but at this point, none of the retro figures are under $25+As far old, sturdy figures, check the Armada/Cybertron toys too, and some Energon. Absolute chunkers and lots of fun
>>11303198That short one's not terrible, I kinda like it.
>>11303197Has a 3rd party done her yet?
>>11303203Megatron's shiny colors are sex.
>>11303218Not yet, but they did female Galvatron and Tarn.
>>11302459I wish we could get one, just one modern g1 predaking that isn't this fuck ugly chinese shitThe platinum edition is still the best looking one and that shit is 14 years old
>>11303239dude you can say that it's overcomplicated or that it doesn't go with your other transformersbut calling this ugly? i don't wanna see your 'beautiful.'
>>11303239Do you think AMT and Cang Toys look the same?
>>11303239cool bootleg>>11303223they did a shitty repaint the transformation would not suit megaempress's design at all
>>11303244you know the post you replied to was mocking that design, right
>>11303239UT Warlord looks amazing when combined, but he has stability issues cause its Razorclaw is a mess.
>>11303239If you think the Adamas Machina Predaking looks like the Cang Toys one I don't know what to tell you. I'd agree that CT looks like typical over-designed spiky chinese mecha, but the AMT is just Predaking with sick ass Obari proportions. Ironically making him look EVEN MORE like a Brave robot than he already did
Was Divebombs backpack Razorclaws "trailer"?
>>11303274tiny beast mode heads is not just a Kingdom thing..
>>11303239I was onboard for this until the fucking terrible chest ruined it. OP's looks great though
>>11303151The teeth are on the other side of the purple ring. The ratchet isn't gear-shaped (a ring with teeth along the edges), it's more crown-shaped (the purple ring is more of a cylinder with teeth running along the top edge, which plugs into a matching piece on the opposite side of the leg, which has been removed in that picture). The 'crowns' are only held onto the grey plastic leg parts via those tiny tabs, which shear off once torque is applied.
>>11303331OH, got it. so when the purple thing is in place, the teeth are on top, and the whole thing connects to a ratchet piece that isn't pictured. I'm on the trolley nowIn that case that is a -profoundly- stupid design. I know they want to cheap out on plastic, but jesus christ, HONEYCOMB it. make it a SPIDERWEB of plastic. not... "initial thread of a spiderweb when the spider is still feeling things out"
I'm glad I'm being vindicated on thinking POTP Predaking was the best looking Predaking on the market.
so, update on momceefor anything resembling a basic deluxe or voyager figure, I wasn't gonna be able to make the previous design work. I'd need some pretty intense engineering to get the wheels placed right, it'd start to look like some of the worst TFPrime toys, so I had to re-engineer it.Here is a quite sketch I did based on my prototyping today. I'm gonna try and get something more solid done this week.Essentially the transformation goes like this: The crotch and attached legs are under the car, they swing down and the bumper and wheels wrap around the waist like some of the optimus figures do. The grill becomes the belly, and is also where the swivel and ab crunch is.The front fenders and the hood swing upright, with the upper hood extending a little further to get the right bust angle, with the head being hidden inside the car until this point.The white portion on the doors folds at the seam line towards the headlights, revealing the arms attached to them.The back fender and tail lights are the tricky part, they're gonna *partially* fold down and lock into place, forming a sort of W shape if you looked at her from the back.The rest of the car canopy (and the hatchback) will fold up. This is the biggest risk, but I need it to be mostly one piece so it can be popped open to store titan masters in.I'm also wondering if I should just design her as a headmaster with daniel, cause it means I don't worry about where the head goes in car mode, and she'd already have titan master ports. But I dunno, I'm hoping it won't matter.
>>11303341>Still deluded in thinking POTP Predaking was the best looking Predaking on the market
>>11303347I love it
>>11303347That looks pretty good. the booby-shaped color pattern is fun
>>11302459Man I’m genuinely excited for this thing.
I liked RID 2015. Its only problems were some continuity stuff and how they handled Optimus
SoYeahPutting ginrai next to the previous 2 main prime figures, I say takara is just not having a good time with rachetsArmada Prime's leg forward movement has this huge deadspace between each click and MP Ginrai outward legs movement rachets are so wide that it either the A or straight down- it does not look that great either way.I don't know why both of them are design like this when it is not like Armada Prime in supermode has to carry serious weight in the arm. Ginrai in his cab robot mode it's just around the size of a voyager figure, there is no reason why they couldn't do your normal friction joints. If the black Ginrai ended up having a new joint system for the hip, then you will have another case of the first buyers being the guinea pig again.
>>11303450i wonder. when was the last genuinely new innovation in this kind of thing. what was the last new joint someone invented. because I'm willing to bet there hasn't been a new one in at least 15 years.
>>11303452You don't need to reinvent the wheel, just add more teeth to the gear
>>11303458i bet there's some amazing system we haven't thought of that works even better than ratchets..
I really like that “Monstercons” idea I had last thread. Cars that unfold into horrifying organic monsters
>>11303471yes pleasecall it a weird transmetal experiment gone wrong
>>11303473What’s worse is that they’re not experiments.They’re like some fucked up body horror perversion of Cybertronian anatomy, perhaps even spawned by Unicron himself as a psychological warfare tactic. They start as fleshy polyps, shove themselves into vehicles and fill up the insides like the crème of a donut before solidifying. After this they’re completely identical to a regular vehicle until they explode out like John Carpenter’s The Thing.They’re like disgusting hermit crabs that use vehicles as shells.
>>11303471Isn't that basically what the dreads were
>>11303452I would say galvatrons auto-aligning tank treads are the last significant engineering improvement I've seen, but I heard strongarm does something nifty with her shoulder fenders.As far as straight up leg ratchets and joints of that nature, ss86 springers leg joints are pretty sophisticated.Honestly, switching to newer, softer plastics for certain joints like they've done since siege is probably the single greatest joint improvement.Unfortunately it comes at the cost of limited colors.
>>11303479yeah but organic
>>11303450I mean, you are buying a 300 dollar commander class figure
>>11303478Sounds like this movieIt bombed
>>11303485Like that except it unfolds into a living weapon that wears a vehicle as armor
>>11303485God this shit looks AI generated but I know it predates that. It's not AI it's just really bad.
>>11303485bitchin
>>11303485I completely forgot this existed. Or maybe I just repressed it?
>>11303478Attack pack vibes
>>11303471Wasn't that a real toyline? I remember seeing a video with something like them in it but I forgot what they were called.
>>11303485That movie made kids cry in a prescreening and got redesigned into that you know.
>>11303530Parasites?
>>11303520i miss attack pack.>>11303531why would kids be at a whatsitcalled. yknow those movies.. sharknado etc. aren't those typically very notkids?
>>11303532Yeah I think that's it.>>11303534I don't know. But it apparently looked like this. I can only assume executives were just being retarded like they usually are or it was a very bad attempt at doing a counter-culture gross-out thing
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>>11303576>Are Americans OKMost "online personalities" are retarded, no matter their country of origin.
>>11302459This reminded me of the SMP Alternative Destiny designs where they make mecha design rightfully edgy. While anyone would still want an updated Predaking with close to G1 design, this could be enough to replace the POTP design.
>>11303585Kiss Players is weird
>>11303482I can see why we can never get a better Powermaster Prime in the Cheapo Plastic Era if they fully booked Commanders to Combiner Leaders. Real unfortunate. Unless they plan on downscaling Ginrai to Leader Class, so to make it fit that line of Generations figures.
>>11303589"weird" seems like a pretty light sentence for someone to condemn an expensive toy to destruction.
>>11303149too tall. bee should be a little dude
>>11303594When it comes right down to it, the story is just plain creepy. Position tones it down considerably, and the trio of protagonists got redeemed even further in Legends. Not too sure if Atari creating Artemis and Moon, the observers of Beast Wars II who none of its main cast can see at all, is acceptable by any means...
>>11303589>>11303601Way to confirm you're low test
>>11303576This guy spent about $200+ only to destroy the figurine and box.Like what is it with western TF people loving to go "eww kiss players it's gross and immoral!"?They're better off ignoring it than acknowledging its existence.
>>11303611i hope japan keeps making tfwiki and tftubers seeth with rage
>>11303612Real. I'd kill for Japan to take over Transformers media again like a new anime or something, Trigger's been itching for years to do one.We haven't had anything good since Unicron trilogy. Last major thing they did was the Transformers GO OVA.
>>11303601And earth spark had a pronoun episode with LGBT crap>>11303611Because their school teach gay homosexuality
>>11303615>Japan>Transformers mediaLMAOTransformers is a joke kids show over there, they don’t even care about the IP
>>11302459anons how is Skullgrin?i see he costs as much as some of Core class transformers on eu-amazonwhich is ultra cheap by our transformers price standartsHe looks kinda cool but his "vehicle" mode is ... "bunch of blocks with cannon".I guess he worth it becasue of cool robot mode?
>>11303628Funny you ask this, I'm european too, has zero interest in the guy but bough one last week due to the price. And I'm liking it way more than I was expecting. The robot mode is unique fun, with multiple ways to attach the weapons, snd the transformation is pretty interesting for something that turns into a brick. I even like the alt mode, there's something endearing about him turning into a slab with cannons. As a novelty and for that price I recommend getting it.
>>11303623And Americans take it seriously which is why their community is full of trannies writing comic books to teach children about genital mutilation.
>>11303636Commie Activists are involved in lots of shit now anonYou’re not gonna tell me that Cyberverse was bad are you?That was the last good thing we had
Is prime connected to the bay movies? I feel like I remember it making references to them at least. Do I need to watch anything before prime? Or is it its own thing?
>>11303645They are both written by Alex KurtzmanPrime is what he wanted the story to be if you wanted a continuation of the Unicron story
This thing is hOt garbage. It's dollar store quality design and construction. Arms and legs pop off easily and the only you can get it to stay together as the large robot is with super glue and prayers. Tonka and Hasbrouck should be embarrassed by this junk of a toy.
>>11303665you must be assembling it wrong or hamming it when you handle it. Mine holds together in it's combined mode fine.
>>11303665Why are you quoting a two years old Amazon review?
>>11303680It's both weird that anon would quote that and that you would know he quoted that. Unless you are anon A and B.
>>11303689Second anon here. Not weird at all, I just checked reviews to see if that Devastator mold truly had those issues and found that one.
>>11303607You're right only high test manly macho power bottom men like myself can bottom to the Legion.
>>11303711What dat tongue do tho
>>11303716
>>11303617At least our schools teach is out to wipe our ass Rajesh
>went and order the incoming devastators figureI don't knowI prefer the G2 yellow colorBut it is not like they do G2 repaint with every team even back in Combiner warsDid I made a mistake?
>>11303741Yeah you bought some extremely shitty toys
>>11303347Headmaster it up, if it helps the transformation. So long as the lil guy has a place to sit in SUV mode.
>>11303645No connection other than Optimus and Bumblebee's designs take design queues from the movies. >>11303648 is chatting shit. The Unicron stuff in Prime happened 6 years before TLK. Kurtzman just reused the idea of Unicron=Earth for the movie.
>>11303347>>11303752Not headmaster, pregmaster. You can give her a pregnant mom belly, and they go in her SUV mode. Up to 4 of them, ranging from baby to teenager, each one giving her a bigger belly.
>>11303017>WokeGet guillotined, notsee asshole. Your country is shit because of religious derangementhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayt3oN6fA1Y
>>11303819You have a gross fetish.
>>11303027>Waaah I can't own slaves or beat muh wife, trans people have rights, they're the evil ones, not usTexas should be handed back to Mexico & every church burned down.
>>11303028You are not a man, you are a crying beta faggot who needs to be shot in the stomach to die slowly. Your god will never be real.3P rules TFs anyway, Tomy is inept
>>11303665I really wish this didn't suck because the mini Tonka trucks were some of my favorite toys as a kid
>>11303037(((Trump))) Will never love you>>11303051Yep the right winger celebrates pedo shit, typical.
At least try to make your samefagging less obvious.
>>11303107Simon Furmanis a nobody with a small penis
>>11303831Imagine if we had IDs, he wouldn't be able to do this gay shit without looking like a retard.
>>11303665Isn't g1 toy devy a really shit combiner in general? I'm not sure how much they could salvage it
>>11303819my original idea was that there would be slots on her backpack to put titanmasters in so it'd be like those back-mounted baby carriers.but that might be an engineering bridge too far.>increasingly expanding belly for pregnant transform, while giving different age titan mastersAnon, that is seriously diving into fetish mode.Mom-Cee was about how Optimus is team dad, so an Arcee Prime would be team mom, and the titanmasters were the perfect gimmick to go the SUV route.>>11303752It's still strange to see my art get fan art of it's own, but I'm here for it.
>>11303819omega based
>>11303576isnt that marissa who is an adult woman in kiss players?
reminder, the politics talk is because rules anon is mad the last thread got image bumped instead of waiting until page 9 so he's trying to get the thread deleted again.It's really obvious, he does this every time anyone deviates from his specific rules. Him and go-anon used to get into fights and flood the whole board with shitty threads trying to get each other banned.Just don't engage.
>>11303881the figure doesn't have an official age, but the manga tie in establishes that she's been friends with Optimus since she was about 12, and has scenes of them at the beach together.We know she's an adult with a job (so probably 20) but the author makes no real difference in how he draws 12 year old marissa and 20 year old marissa, which is the root of the problem.
>>11303883no chudanon and rulesanon are two different people
Despite his problems and wrong cannon (I blame deluxe budget) I really like One Megs.
>>11303891
>>11303091>>11303347>tfw no fat Arcee that turns into a Subaru BLT
>>11303911I would kind of prefer an OC (I've toyed with the idea of an Ice Cream truck) but fat Arcee is good too.
>>11303911I mean I found this
>>11303913Mostly the humor of it being called a BLT and it's already in Arcee's colors.
do you play with your transformers?
>>11303922No. They get put on a shelf and gather dust.
>>11303922I don't want my wife to make fun of me but I do pose them like they're fighting constantly.To be clear, she thinks it's cute I collect, but I don't want to push it to a point where she thinks I am actually developmentally arrested. It's more of a me problem than a her problem.
>>11303927>No. They get put on a shelf and gather dust.Sadget better playstyle
>>11303929>I don't want my wife to make fun of meSAD A S
>>11303576I jumped around alot on the video but it seems like just an attempt at virtual signalling. He says the product is appalling, yet shows clear shots of the product before censoring and doesn't even consistently censor it. He shows the figure in the review and how it is used, but if he were really so against it existing, he wouldn't include it at all. He snaps the cd after a few minutes of playing the audio, even though nothing offensive was on it as far as I could tell. He destroys the packaging, cards, and booklet but the figure he hammers at isn't really completely destroyed, only unpegs the swapping parts and dings the figure and scuffs the paint at most. He even says "if you like this that's ok" at one point in the video in reference to the figurine. It all seems very performative and ingenuine.
>>11303941Damn autocorrect. Virtue signalling.
>>11303929>To be clear, she thinks it's cute I collect, but I don't want to push it to a point where she thinks I am actually developmentally arresteddude that's fucking weird as fuck>american marriage
>>11303944What did he mean by this?
>>11303929If she would think you are retarded for posing your figures then you married the wrong woman. Have you tried slapping her around a little?
>>11303922No, I shove them all into boxes and storage because I'm an autist
>>11303576Frank's gonna freak!
>>11303891I’ll be sad if we don’t get a bigger better version of this, I really thought they would do a “Brave Commander” version to match Prime
>>11303957>No, I shove them all into boxes and storage because I'm an autistSad................
>>11303957I have one my boxes of other transformers that I store away but one big box of my favorites, which are the ones that I'd keep if I sold my whole collection.
>>11303985grim...i love all my transformers and play with them often
>>11303922sure, put them in poses and groups, then ill put them on the shelf for a bit
>>11303988Nta but I've got seven bins full of transformers, I couldn't display them all if I filled my home to the brim. Instead I rotate them out, every few months I put away the ones I've had out on display and bring out some other ones that haven't seen daylight in a while. It's the best way to enjoy an unhealthily large collection without feeling overwhelmed, limit yourself to 20-30 at a time.
>>11303576>filenameanon that kind of bullshit is what THEY do. those people are all "is japan okay?"fuck that kind of nonsense. tiptoeing around like a faggot. don't be like them.
>>11303977I don't have enough room to just store them in the open. I have to keep packing them up to conserve space
>>11303611it's like this>society shifts so that people are meant to get together and have kids later and later, adolescence is stretched out well into people's 20s>this lowers the birth rate and increases the levels of birth defects, so the government can have more control>meanwhile actual molesters are like "oh shit they're gonna find me. I'd better start accusing every healthy normal thing of being creepy, so nobody catches wind. If I defend DRAWINGS nobody is going to suspect I diddle flesh and blood people."
>>11303985>>11303988yeah >>11303992. I go through them periodically and cycle some out, and take stock of the ones I've kept in my favorites to see if I still really like them.
>>11303576Americans are so weird, they act like prudes and condemn displays of attractive people and media that showcases it like manga and anime but then they put explicit sex scenes in a lot of the newest american shows coming out. I just don't get it
>>11303732in fairness, cleaning your ass with a water hose is way more effective. it just makes a fucking mess>>11303824kek mexico's on our side dude. significantly moreso.
>>11303887he just said that. you agree with himyou are both wrong>>11303922I need to start. my whole setup sucks. but in fairness I didn't wanna live here and I don't really run the place.
>>11303944I later said that it's more of a me problem thinking she would look at it like that. I understand that's also my fault that point was overlooked. My bad.
>>11304001We like sex with adults sir
>>11304011oh I thought by 'me problem' you were saying you shouldn't even have a problem with that.
I just wish I could get the nemesis recolor of the KP Optimus... My prime NTR gag shots will have to wait...
>>11304013Sure thing Pajeet
>>11304022What's KP Optimus?
>>11304037Kiss Playersuses the same toys as binaltech
>>11303576The funniest part of the video was him trying to destroy Marissa with a hammer and if you look closely he barely damaged her at all but did dent up his table pretty good. He couldn't even do the "lol look at me destroy this thing I spent money on" spectacle right.
>>11303794I never said they were directly connected I said that Kurtzmans ideas in the movies are actualised in PrimeIf you can’t see that then you are retarded
>>11304001>Huge ass country with 300 million people from different backgrounds will have different opinions from each other.
>>11304068Yeah but I think anon meant the straight up direct hypocritesI have a whole rant saved but I don't think you guys need to see it. Suffice it to say, it's funny the people reeing about age difference in sex are super okay with two underages doing it, and that is fucking fucked up. Oh and they're fine with them doing it, but if they film it to look at later, they get tried as adults. Because that's the REAL danger. Not the spiritual damage, not disease, but pictures.Fuckers can't even define male and female, but they're pretty sure they have the definition of 'child' right, and that everyone else who ever lived had it wrong.
>>11303999>If I defend DRAWINGS nobody is going to suspect I diddle flesh and blood people.Then how come anti-lolifags always have actual CP in their hard drives?
>Titans Return>Power of the Primes>Earthrise>that beast wars linei miss these linesIt was the lines when i was often visiting these threads and really liked most of transformers toys that they were releasing.I feel like we don't have fun toys anymore...the designs are kind of questionable or boring.When will they release a new mindblowing fun as fuck line?the only thing im excited about is that cartoon colors Trypticon variant
The choices I made>Optimus Prime: Mack Anthem>Bumblebee: Tao Evo 50>Cliffjumper: Jeep Wrangler>Jazz: Toyota Supra>Ultra Magnus: Tractomas 10x10
>>11304072They probably have the fucked up shit where kids are actually being hurt, rather than just like, happy naked pictures that used to be in art galleries and movies. I'm pretty sure I've heard some feminist crazies talking about loving watching boys be tortured.Guys we should probably talk more about transformers, yknow. Like hey that Tigatron guy, I think he's cool. I wish he used his ice gun more often.
>>11304074>When will they release a new mindblowing fun as fuck line?YOU VILL BUY ZE GEEWUN SQUAREMAN AND YOU VILL VE 'APPY!Shitposting aside, I wish I could find anything that wasn't Earthspark or one step changers from the last movie in stores. The only way to get anything these days seems to be online, and the toys you get for it are underwhelming for the most part.
>>11304077What? Since when does he have an ice gun?
>>11304081well maybe it was more of a fire extinguisher gun. but I always imagined if he just cranked the power up, he could freeze dudes.I think he only used it that one time in Inferno's debut.
>>11304074Takara Titans Returns repaints was probably the most I've ever bought transformers. The gimmick was top tier and Takara's quality control was great at that time. I felt completely alienated when the next line was just Combiner Wars 2: Were-not-letting-Takara-do-superio-repaints-anymore Boogaloo with all the same design flaws and cheapness that Combiner Wars 1 had.
>>11304079>YOU VILL BUY ZE GEEWUN SQUAREMAN AND YOU VILL VE 'APPY!I unironically will.Im actually waiting when they will make another Blitzwing.the newest blitzwing with those 2 transluscent red hands is so shitty.Titans Return blitzwing was the last good one.we need a new version but without stupid gimmick
>>11304087>The gimmick was top tieri loved their headmasters (and those tiny minicon-ish transformers that also came with their own little headmasters) so much.I then used my Trypticon as headmasters storage (he eats them up and storing in his belly)
>>11304092
>>11304094why is there a little kid graphic on the cake.
>>11304097he has been baked
Question >Optimus eventually passes on the Matrix>Reverts to being Orion Pax physically, and is relieved of duty by Alpha Trion>Has to find out what he wants to do with his life. Find out who he actually is outside of being a Prime>Goes on soul searching journey, and thinks about how he’s given so much to the job of a Prime that he feels he’s lost sight of his core
>>11304092>(and those tiny minicon-ish transformers that also came with their own little headmasters)Those are awesome, I like the bird/dino one that got repainted as Overkill, that one's great.
>>11304105i'd think he'd become a diplomat. let those speeches work for him.
>>11304109yeah they were 10/10 top tier additions. Some little dudes that can live in a world of transformers and ride them as vehicles and stuff like that.
>>11304110Yeah but like, what does he actually want for himself.
>>11304121>goes back to Elita-1>"Elita I've become Orion Pax again!">Elita pumps her fist
>>11304121peeeaaace
>>11304121Maybe a librarian again.
Should i get Megatron used for $50?i always wanted him and i need him (have the most of that beast wars line)
>>11304132>>11304131Does he have anything he actually wants?Does he have any hobbies? Aspirations?
>>11304135i mean we know so little about their society. all we ever see is fightingthere's probably like robot stamp collecting and robot trainspotting to do..i dunno if they have fiction, i've never seen any evidence of cybertronian fiction.
>>11304134Forgot the pic like a dummyi meant this BW megatron - used, $50
>>11304138i dont wanna fuck the seller over because i sold MY megatron, but... you can definitely get one for cheaper.
>>11303929>I don't want my wife to make fun of me but I do pose them like they're fighting constantly.>To be clear, she thinks it's cute I collect, but I don't want to push it to a point where she thinks I am actually developmentally arrested. I>his wife doesnt play with his transformers toysNGMIhttps://youtu.be/8NdwAObT7Sg
>>11304143luckest man alive
>>11304088As someone who has both, TR Blitzwing has a good tank mode and a fantastic jet mode but a middling robot mode. Legacy Blitzwing has a great robot mode but a meh tank mode and a completely shit jet mode.Myself I'm just waiting for a new Animated Blitzwing.
>>11304132>>11304135>>11304136I’d like to imagine that he’d become a historian or writer, writing about both Cybertron's history and the cultures of planets he visits. He essentially becomes Alpha Trion's successor, becoming a wise sage to anyone who needs his knowledge or guidance, possibly even into the Beast Era
>>11304152yeah! that works!!people gotta learn from history.
>>11304121The whole point in g1 is that Orion was content, and oblivious, and Megatron shattered his world and he decided he couldn't stand by anymore.In other iterations, there's a similar vein of "I can't sit by and do nothing" after being content with a more stable job (data clerk, librarian, to some degree even idw cop opti)If he's not given the responsibility, he'd just wander around looking for people to help and conflicts to settle.I could see a story of him running a veterans association of sorts. Basically, he runs rehab for the old war horses, gets them back into society, but sometimes having to deal with their drama, especially relating to their past war actions that have no place in peace time
>>11304157>retired copshit now i am crying that we'll never get john mahoney voicing Kup
>>11303922I like to pose then into large battle sets, unfortunately I suck at taking photos
>>11304148>TR Blitzwing has a good tank mode and a fantastic jet modei really like TR tank mode - it's so much funit was so weird that Legacy Blitzwing's FISTS didn't have any pegs to attach to combiners. it was such an obvious thing and they didn't do it
>>11304162dittoand the last time i tried to pose like 6 figures it drove me nuts and exhausted me.i have a better phone now though.
>>11304148>>11304164I love that TR Blitzwing mold as Megatron, having him be both a tank and a jet fit in a way I didn't know I needed before.
>>11304164I despise the energon fists so much. They don’t do anything cool, they don’t reference anything about Blitzwing, and they take money away from Blitzwing's figure that could have improved it.
>>11304164wait what were they for theni thought they were for combiners
>>11304164It is a lot of fun. Honestly TR Blitzwing has some of the best alt modes of any triple changer ever.
>>11304169>ditto
>>11304174To justify Blitzwing's price of a Leader
>>11304176>It is a lot of fun. Honestly TR Blitzwing has some of the best alt modes of any triple changer ever.I also like how jet wings can unfold in a tank mode turning it into a Flying Tank. i would have so much fun with that fan-mode as a kid
>>11304169I get what you mean…I hate getting them into poses I really like, only for one to fall and topple the rest like dominoes
>>11304164you aint just whistlin dicks.. all good modes.
>>11304185oh yeah that too!!
>>11304105I feel like the best alternative for Optimus would be some kind of fugitive vigilante that just travels around helping people without trying to draw too much attention
>>11304187>posts stock photo
>>11304105>QuestionOkay... what's the question though?
>>11304204A DC character.
>>11304192where else am I supposed to find pictures? i don't have him.anon brings up a good toy, posts no picture of it, I go okay lemme look it up.
>>11304174The original line plan was that all the characters would have big combinable weapons But that got thrown out at some point during production of year 1.It looks like they were planning on releasing powerlinx combiners, but scrapped that.
>>11304105Remember when IDW tried to do this and their answer was that there is no difference between Orion and Optimus because they failed to make any real distinction between the two from the very beginning.
>>11304240I feel like Aligned struggled with this too because it and IDW were unable to make Orion and later Optimus flawed enough.
>>11304228well I guess that works, they are gun barrel fingers
>>11304240IDW Orion was so stupid. One of the early fuckups. "hey turns out orion was a supercop for the bad guys and also still superpowered and looked exactly the same" fuck OFF>>11304249That's one of the problems with making Optimus and the Primes gods: he can't just be a guy.
>>11304254Fuck you low-test poster, Coptimus was sick AF
>>11304255ok retard
>>11304254Making Optimus one of the Thirteen has always been a bad idea in my opinion. Not only do you lose the mystery of the Thirteenth and it makes Optimus really broken as a character as he basically becomes Cybertron Jesus. Personally, if I were writing the Thirteen, I would make them like Adam and Eve and have all modern Cybertronians “descendants” of them. Like the Constructicons are builders that combine, so they are descended from Solus and Nexus, Blitzwing is descended from Amalgamous and Liege Maximo, etc.>>11304255No it wasn’t, it was really boring and only existed to try making Orion more flawed and it didn’t work because he barely changed
>>11304265I prefer the toon thing where Primes are just leaders, not something special and unique. It makes the world seem smaller to have them be so limited, and it makes Optimus TOO special. He should be special not because of what he is but because of WHO he is.
>>11304268I think that the Thirteen and the rank of Prime can coexist, it’s just by the modern day Prime is whoever has the Matrix of Leadership, passed down by Prima, who was both the first of the Thirteen and the first to hold the rank of Prime. I also think that they should make the Thirteenth Prime more of a mystery, like they could be anyone. They could be Alpha Trion, Optimus, Megatron, Hot Rod, Elita, etc. and there’s no definitive proof to any of them being the Thirteenth
>>11304265>, I would make them like Adam and Eve and have all modern Cybertronians “descendants” of themThat's something in the current line's material, they're listing who new figures are descended from. Armada Red Alert is a descendant of Prima, G2 Grimlock descends from Alpha Trion apparently.
>>11304281That’s where I got the idea from but expanded it to explain why some transformers' abilities overlap multiple Primes. Also, it’s weird Grimlock is descended from AT and not Onyx or Megatronus
>>11304284My guess, we're getting lion alpha trion again and they're gonna make him be another primitive
>>11304071>it's funny the people reeing about age difference in sex are super okay with two underages doing it,Oh, you're that kind of stupid.
>>11304284Given Grimlock is generally built by Wheeljack, I take it to mean Wheeljack is directly descended from Trion and his "son" Grimlock is an indirect descendant.
>>11302459I have potp Grimlock, but I've been eying up studio series Grimlock. Is he any good?
So how difficult would it be to mod a micro-LED into his neck?
>>11304298Yeah he’s pretty good, he’s actually the figure that got me back into collecting. The only downside is that he comes with a useless wheelie figure and if you want his sword, you either have to buy SS Swoop or Comics Edition Grimlock
>>11304298potp grimlock wasn't even good at release. Outclassed completely by SS except SS has apparently inflated in price
>>11304298He's like POTP Grimlock but better in every conceivable way.
>>11304278>I also think that they should make the Thirteenth Prime more of a mysteryWell in-universe it is a mystery*Thirteen's identity was wiped from history at his request when he decided to jump in the well*A mystery when it isn't Zeta or Logos or whoever else, you know what I mean
>>11304299The real toy doesn't have the dead eyes of the render
>>11304292If it's stupid to think that if one person isn't responsible enough for sex, then two of them is twice as irresponsible, then put the ol' dunce cap on me.
>>11304309wow those don't even look lightpiped. did they give in and use paint? There's no shame in it.
>>11304278I always thought the thirteen and the regular primes existed within the same general lore. The thirteen are just the first 13 Primes created by Primus and now hold a mythical status while the regular primes become primes after getting the Matrix and there are possibly countless generations of them.
>>11304312That is how it worksUnfortunately Hasbro used the same word for both and now people will need to be autistic over it
>>11304045Because it was all a virtue signalling ploy. He clearly didn't actually want to destroy it or he would have found a way.
>>11304309Yeah I've seen that, but I still think it needs the LED light to look great, especially through his nose.
>>11304312They do, I was just saying that to >>11304268 since they were saying they prefer the G1 cartoon's way of handling things
>>11304323that and the company he's so opposed to is not harmed in any way by the product being harmed. Typical logic of these types.
>>11304296oooh, that's a good guess.wheeljack coming from alpha trion definitely makes sense.Also, if I recall, they mentioned the 13 descendants are based on energon types, so maybe that's at play.Cause Slingshot is also from Alpha Trion, and we know Alpha Trion was directly involved in his creation in the g1 cartoon.Silverbolt being the combiner *torso* and he's connected to Nexus. We won't get to know another combiner torso for a year, so that won't tip us off.Waspinator being from Micronus makes sense because of the mini-bot nature.Red altert connected to Prima seems to relate to their strong sense of good? It's kind of weak.We don't know about Vortex, Crasher, Heatwave, or Skybyte yet.I'd say if Skybyte is from Onyx, Quintus, Liege, or Megatronus, it'd make sense.Heatwave is likely only Alchemist or Prima.If the above pattern holds, Vortex *won't* be form Nexus, Crasher is likely gonna be from Solus or Maximo.I don't think we'll really get much in the way of answers of what makes someone "a descendent" any time soon.Wave 2 deluxe seems to be Crasher, Vortex, Alchemist, and I'm guessing we'll get skydive.Wave 3 will likely be Micronus, Swindle, and Venom.Wave 2's voyagers are likely just heatwave and Skybyte, meaning 3s will be Alpha Trion and Flatline.Wave 2's second leader class is likely gonna be package refresh of Megatronus. I'm not sure we're getting a wave 3 leader in 2025 or it might just be repacks.Not a lot of the characters this year have existing lore we can draw conclusions from.
>>11304265Yeah, having optimus be one of the thirteen is and always has been fucking stupid. In general I like the idea of the thirteen being the sort of original ancestor for specific TF traits as well
>>11304323I’ll never understand why people get so upset over Kiss Players. Is the manga disgusting? Yes. But guess what? KP has had almost no influence on any future media or toyline outside of the Autotroopers, Cassettes, and maybe Legion, but that’s it. Binaltech is far more interesting and left a ton of impact on future stories and clearly neither Takara nor Hasbro want to touch KP with a 12 foot pole
>>11304335Most people never read the covenant, so they didn't get what they were trying to do with the "optimus was the 13th all along"Optimus specifically gave up his identity and memories to start over along with a fresh batch of cybertronians, giving Alpha Trion the task of returning him to his former Prime glory if the need should arise, stating that the shared experience of living on cybertron as one of them would make the Primes actually understand their problems.It directly ties back to the g1 idea that it wasn't until the decepticons rose up, and offed Orion, that he was rebuilt as Optimus.But that wasn't gonna work with the tv show's lore, so it kinda got mixed around.Personally, I like the idea that Optimus isn't actually a true prime at all, and the only prime to arise after the original 13 was Hot Rod, and all the primes that kept the matrix since then were basically hoping to find the true successor.But the Matrix has been tied with Optimus so often now they can't really throw that out anymore.
>>11304335I also don’t really like Alpha Trion being one of the Thirteen, it doesn’t really add much to his character and it’s weird he’s one but Beta isn’t, despite the fact that they are clearly similar in age to each other
>>11304338I’m shocked no writer has done anything with the fact that Hot Rod looks nearly identical to Primus. I feel like that should be a bigger deal lore-wise
>>11304334waspinator mini-bot?
>>11304335Optimus should be JOINING the 13. maybe taking the role left by the Fallen who gets kicked out. Or his predecessor could be a guy who sacrificed himself.
>>11304342He means like the G1 mini vehicles, not the Micromasters or Mini-cons>>11304343See, that’s more interesting as it allows Optimus to rise rather than just retaking what was already his
>>11304344what has that to do with Wazzzpinator?>rise rather than retakeyou know, now that you phrase it that way, I actually think it would be interesting for him to find out he's amnesiac or something, Orion Pax is just his "Agent K in retirement" and then they de-neuralize him and he goes back to being a fucking god, but with all the humility that came from living as a regular schlubb.shitty nu Doctor Who did it, but their version was gay and terrible. It'd be better for Optimus.
>>11304341Only Takara Tomy and Sakamoto sort of touched upon this with that Rodimus Prime E-Hobby or whatever figure that's sued to represent Primus.I wouldn't mind if they repainted Kingdom Rodimus Prime to be a sort of Primus avatar .
>>11304343>Or his predecessor could be a guy who sacrificed himself.That is what happenedTaking known 13 lore from Aligned (just because it's the most fleshed out version) and applying it to what scant bits we can glean from from AoP's fiction, or lack of, my Headcanon is thisThirteen is Optimus' ancestor, in the boxart we can see Thirteen looks kind of like a cross between Super Ginrai and Star Convoy. Now Star Convoy is Optimus' final strongest form, basically regaining/unlocking the power that was once "his"Y'know like when someone becomes worthy of Thor's hammer they get his powers and also usually get cloaked in his armor for flare
>>11304341Well, part of that is because Primus got a makeover in the Unicron Trilogy and no longer looks like Hot Rod
>>11304345The new Waspinator toy is of Animated Wasp, who shares his body type with Animated Bumblebee.I hate when franchises try to Timeless Child retcon their characters to make them more “interesting”. I think it misses the main point of how characters are defined by what they do, not who they are. The Doctor isn’t changed by being the Timeless Child and Optimus wouldn’t be changed by being the Thirteenth and it adds nothing to either of them in the long run
>>11304351well I hope you're right, I like your version.
>>11304356Well for Prime it'd be giving him this past he never knew he hadfor the Doctor that's nothing new, they've just multiplied it by like 20. so it's taking something that was already unwieldy and had to be finagled around... and just making it stupid and more. But you're right, it doesn't change them so it doesn't really accomplish anything.
>>11304334>Wave 2 deluxe seems to be Crasher, Vortex, Alchemist, and I'm guessing we'll get skydive.Do you think Crasher will have any changes from the Velocitron Speedia 500 figure? Like how Dirge had plastic color wings instead of painted or how Tarn's tolerances are much, much better compared to the original release? I haven't opened Cosmos or Origin Bee, so I don't know if they're slightly different.
>>11304356He looks kind of cool, I already have legacy Bumblebee so maybe I might get this too
>>11304338to be blunt, I've been reading the covenant but stopped just short of when that happened. Think I just got past the part where Liege was killed by... who fucking knows.
>>11304338wait, so my idea is actually what happened?
>>11303891Absolute dogshitYou guys cope so hard to defend literal turdsit's wild
>>11303891wait, his fists are treads?
>>11303891He's alright, but I think his proportions are a bit weird, and I don't like how his turret sits on his tank mode.
>>11304365lol, yeah, I think the implication is that the primes went into a blood frenzy and one of the primes killed Maximo. It's really confusing, but I think it's supposed to represent the taintedness from their unicron fight.>>11304366In the covenant, Solus dies inside her lathe (the name of her workshop, not an actual lathe) and it becomes a well leading to the center of cybertron, but it doesn't do anything yet.Then the mortally wounded onxy agrees to go in and basically becomes their alt mode scanner, using his tryptic mask to view all sorts of creatures and vehicles across time and space to give them form.And Optimus agrees to go with him, letting himself get stripped away and reborn as a new cybertronian, but it also seems to start a cycle of rebirth, implying that existing sparks can return to the well and be reborn.Also, yes, this means Solus Prime literally became a giant vagina that all the children of cybertron pass through when they're born.
>>11304390Man, 2010s Transformers writing women was just something else, wasn’t it? It’s no wonder it took so long for Elita to get focus on her.
>>11304394the covenant was written by a woman
>>11304390>Also, yes, this means Solus Prime literally became a giant vagina that all the children of cybertron pass through when they're born.It's allegory!
Its the Diaclone artfren again, working on something in my world
>>11304397What ever could they be doing?
>>11304395Never said it wasn’t. Also, I seriously doubt she was the one to come up with these ideas
>>11304399I always forget that the blue Bluestreak originated in Diaclone. I always think it was retroactively made, like Glyph or Tap-Out
>>11304390works for me!>>11304395>Just kidding, we don't hire women
>>11303944are you brown?
>>11304433anon you can't just ask someone if he's brown
>>11304309>>11304311>>11304330No, half the head is lightpiping and it's blasting LED's directly into the head
>>11304437i don't think it's called lightpiping when there's an LED inside, or are you saying it's using bothbecause that would mean the lightpiping window on the back/top of the head would also be glowing.
>>11304440>an LED insideI'm talking about the LED's in the cabinet blasting directly into the back of his head, he doesn't have an LED in his head
>>11304434Well obviously he can, he just did
>>11304441got it. but uh, we can see what's behind him, and it is not a cabinet and there's no LED.
>>11304443it's a memei suppose we ought to start saying mayn't
who are 2-3 guys that would look good next to spinister?
>>11304448Needlenose and Quake
>>11304450i should have expected that
>>11304445Well it's still clearly big lights blasting on him
>>11304457not callin you a liar, just saying I am drawing a mental line behind his head and I should be able to see a light if there is one.
>>11304437Have we even seen the back of Rattrap's head yet?
>>11304451Cent wait for the Autobot Double Targetmasters to be Constructicon retools
>>11304459yes
>>11304461be nice if they came out at all but Hasbro will probably give us five more Ironhides and Prowls instead.
>>11304451Love me ScoopNeed a LandfillA Quickmix is fine too
>>11304466Neat
>>11304467I’d be fine with that because Earthrise Prowl has the wrong head, Studio Series Ironhide is missing his stripe, and their two pack looks bad to me
>>11304467>>11304472Monkey's paw and we get a new Magnaboss
>>11304458If theres no light anon, how can you see at all
>>11304466I fucking hate shite piping. So much. I tire of this meme. I'm glad the face is at least built to be removed so I can cover the eyes up with chrome foil or something that actually looks good, but there's no saving the back of his head being a bid bloody chunk just so his eyes look dead 90% of the time.
>>11304475oh you>>11304466oh hey! that is absolutely lightpiping.. absolightpiping.kind of a shame it has to cover part of his brain thing, but... if you really cared about that and didn't care about the light, you could paint it the rest of the way pretty easily.
>>11304477Agreed, if they want the glass look in them, just put a mirror colour on the back of the transluscent eyesLight coming from the front is better than the back
>>11304474I want that!! But I know they would fuckle it up.>>11304477oh there's just a block of clear red behind his face, just like in the show? that's kinda neat. yeah you could totally do red foil if you wanted. or regular foil / chrome marker, covered in clear red paint. but his eyes would still look dead anytime they're not in the light.
>>11304484>oh there's just a block of clear red behind his face, just like in the show?huh?Also here's how the back looks
>>11304489Look at those fucking cheeks.
>>11304490He's hotdogging himself
>>11304489You said the face can be removed, so behind the face is just a blank red area? because in the show, behind his face is just a red plane that shows through.>>11304492ooh the ol tuck and pull. I think we all do that sometimes. if your legs are bent up it's more comfortable for sleeping
>>11304466>>11304489Yep def gonna paint over the clear red and somehow get a micro-LED in there to look as good as it can.
>>11304497you mean just the red on the back of the head, while leaving the face, right
>>11304490great aunt arcee would be proud
>>11304503>you mean just the red on the back of the head, while leaving the face, rightYeah, why would I paint over the face? I want the light to shine through the clear red plastic.>>11304495>because in the show, behind his face is just a red plane that shows through.Sphere or something actually.
>>11304507well earlier a guy wanted to put foil over the face and make it metallic red, so I was just in that mindsetI hope your LED idea works.. LEDea... show us when you do it. I dunno how tiny those shits can get, or if there's proper access in the bottom of his head given that it probably terminates in a ball joint knob, but.. >sphereoh hey so it is. neat. They couldn't quite work in his ribbed neck though could they.
>>11304240I mean technically that would be the case. The Matrix doesn't just magically change who you are as a person.In WFC he had combat experience before he got the Matrix
In One, I kinda wish they focused on a civilian uprising for a bit after the truth got out. Have the cogged citizens and miners alike just fucking tear everything down
>>11304520I wish they focused on making it good
>>11304528Nice bait
>>11304530That's not baitYou're with the other redditors thinking it was good. There's a reason it did so poorly Hasbro basically cut movies until a foreseeable future
>>11304537>movie doing poorly means movie is badTerrible opinion anon
>>11304400I was just pointing out the irony that a woman wrote the scene where the one woman becomes the very thing only women can do.Honestly, the rest of the book is kinda meh, but the author pretty much nails alpha trions "wise, but maybe a little too aloof for his own good" attitude.speaking of solus, SOMETHING has to be planned for her, I just don't know what it's gonna be, because there's no reason to split her battle apron into three separate pieces. It serves no transformation point, and no functionality in robot mode.It makes me think they have a retool plan for her that'll involve that piece needing to be 3 separate pieces but I can't imagine *what*Its also possible her retool won't be female, so maybe that's why it's so hard to pin down.
>>11304543The more I look at it, the more I worry they're gonna reuse her for quintus, making her shoulder pads into basic secondary arms and changing her apron into tentacles.It'd be such a copout, but I put nothing past has to at this point.
Since Hasbro technically owns Go-Bots I’d kinda like to see a crossover for shits and giggles. See how it turns out.
>>11304508>show us when you do it.Yeah I'll be sure to post it when/if I do it.>>11304508>They couldn't quite work in his ribbed neck though could they.I think they did, based on this render.
>>11304557I guess technically it isn’t a full crossover but there’s the story Echoes and Fragments where the G1 movie has characters swapped out for GoBot characters https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Source:Ask_Vector_Prime/Facebook#EchoesAndFragments
>>11304561oh there it is. awesome.
>>11304563You know what? This idea has been percolating in my head for a month now, I’m just going to pitch it here for no reason>Go-bots comic soft reboot>Deals with body horror out the wazoo and extreme existential dread>Remember, Go-Bots have organic brains. Go all in with the body horror>Rock Lords show up as weird pseudo-racist lunaticsJust make it a completely unforgettable clusterfuck of pain
So with Rattrap at the end of this year, I wonder if it'll take until the end of 2026 or '27 for Airazor. Unless they do another Predacon, in which case I'd hope for Tarantulas since they already did a great job with Blackarachnia.
>>11304578not to mention coolranchulas requires the least cheating
>>11304578Weird to me the beast wars fans are like "FINALLY THE MAXIMAL CAST IS COMPLETE" and just ignoring Airrazor. Do they hate her?
>>11304610>"FINALLY THE MAXIMAL CAST IS COMPLETE"Season one maybe
>>11304610>Do they hate her?Don't think so. I think it's due to the lack of screen time. I think she's in 11 episodes compared to maybe 16 or 18 for Tigatron.
>>11304616wow i never noticed her robot parts have a feather texture applied to them, but they're smooth so it's like she's made of wood.
>>11304616I also never noticed beast wars guys have an extra phalanx in the hallux. are they all like that?
>>11304619>wow i never noticed her robot parts have a feather texture applied to themMainframe always did go the extra mile with details. Shame most of the details get squashed with shit DVD releases. Hope we'll get a bluray for beast wars if those guys doing the reboot master tapes can get that out on bluray. of course hasbro has to play along, so who knows.
>>11304622seems like stuff like that would only have muddied the visuals and provided no bang for the considerable buck of rendering extra textures on robot parts which are usually just smooth or have that kinda brushed-metal grit.. but it makes her unique and that is cool.I also appreciated how they didnt bullshit a hand transformation for Primal, which I'm pretty sure the anime did. Just pretending the organic hand turns to robot hand so you can have more cool robot hands.. that kind of microtransformation we DON'T need.and it's kind of hilarious we have a bunch of movie Primals now with near-pointless hand swapping as part of their transformation
>>11304623>seems like stuff like that would only have muddied the visualsMaybe so, but they always seemed to want to do it even if it wasn't necessary. You rarely see the texture around her beak/nostrils without a close-up, but it's there.
https://ameblo.jp/digitamin/entry-12882837727.htmlclearer pics
>>11304138>>11304134Just ordered Megatron.fucking cool - can't wait to add to collection.I have all the beastwars guys except Cheetor and AirRazor and both spiders.
>>11304642>except Cheetor and AirRazor and both spiders.oh yeah and except Rhinox.the rhino guy was so terrible i even refused to buy him on heavy discount
