Previous: https://boards.4chan.org/toy/thread/11722803#bottomOut now:>Mole Rat (V.2)>Big Lob>Night Viper>LifelineDue soon:>Hit-n-Run>retro-card Female Crimson Guard>retro-card Zap>retro-card Crazy LegsJune-July release date:>Zanya with Swamp SkierUnknown release dates:>Ninja Force Zartan>Airtight>Hydro-Viper>Taurus and Red Dog 2-pack>Cobra arctic 3-pack>retro card Wild Bill>DIRE-tech Night Creeper >Legacy Special Forces Action Soldier>Professor Rottclaw and dino-buddy with extra head for "Paleo Viper">Sundown>Dawn Moreno alternative Snake eyesComing from Reaction+:>Target-exclusive Tiger Force Snake Eyes>250th USA anniversary Lady Jaye, Falcon, Duke and Snake Eyes>Flash>Daina>Chuckles>Hydro-Viper>G.I. Joe A Real American Hero:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLM0FaPp2oenPi6zQOTBUCRoYnjhp0eEKQ>G.I. Joe Renegades:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9iSDGvA4UNCGK-QiRUoxNHPun1PAIXON
Pics of boxed Zanya are surfacing. Ali Express isn't the best source for accurate prices, but they're saying it'll be over $90. It'll rot in stores at that price.
>>11733017Probably be a Fan Channel exclusive, then.
>>11733020It needs to be reasonable because a lot of dreadnok collectors want more than one so others besides Zarana can have a swamp skier.
>>11733017Her lower torso, crotch, forearms, and hands are re-used from Zarana.
where is the 1-18 general
>>11733040Wrong, hands are from Jinx, and forearms are new.
>>11733053The grey plastic on the bike...thing looks a bit rough but that's the worst thing I can say. Figure itself looks fucking awesome. Also I know it's completely the wrong gun but I saw the pistol and thought "Megatron? Is that you?".
>>11733017They just had to put a dude in his place over strong womyn, didn't they?>>11733053You're right. It's easier to see in your better pic. >>11733057It was cheaply made. There are fan-made 3D-printed ones out there with better details in the undercarriage of the Swamp Skier. Plus it lacks stickers/tampo details. That's why Hasbro shouldn't ask a bullshit price for it.
>>11733069>There are fan-made 3D-printed ones out there with better details in the undercarriage of the Swamp Skier.Speaking as a printfag myself I can absolutely believe that, but that's kind of an unfair comparison given 3D printing can produce shapes that are literally impossible with injection moulding. Like, undercuts are a non-issue with printing but a massive problem for plastic moulding.Hopefully it's not too expensive anyway.
>>11733070You can get a 3D-printed one for as low as $35. With their economies of scale that come from mass-production using regular plastics, Hasbro could produce one for less.
There's no reason for it to be expensive, especially if Hasbro wants to stoke the "army-builder" types that feel the need to buy more than one.
>>11733017Aliexpress sellers always overprice Classified releases, especially exclusives, they know people who are in countries that don't get them are willing to pay mark ups, wait for the actual price before doom and gloom-ing
>>11733092I have multiple Dreadnoks, so I won't touch it if it's any more than $60. Even that's pushing it since I only need one Zanya, and will have several to unload on Ebay.
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>>11733342Those were just annonced today. I like the idea of service crews available. I hope it's not too pricey.
>>11733342Hopefully we'll be seeing these parts used to make an actual Cobra trooper as opposed to the repaint slop they shat out for the retro line
>>11733358The early figures were crap. We definitely need a new trooper without those eye-sore leg pins.
>>11733047Dead sadly, one of the casualties of the auto-sage system. >>11733053This one has the best detailing and will be the sturdiest. >>11733073These look like crap, but will very much be the cheapest>>11733074This hits that sweet spot of nice details while probably being more affordable. I'll be sticking with the official one, I've bought many 3D printed items and they always feel kind of off. Even Gridiron's stuff still has that rough feel to it that 3D print is known for and I'm just not a fan. But it's nice there's more accurate unofficial versions for the collectors who need accuracy in their updates. >>11733342...I don't see any holsters for the pistols or the knives. I kind of hate when they include those smaller accessories without a way for a figure to stow em. I thought one of the main features of this line would be for figures to be able to carry all their gear, not having holsters just seems like a massive oversight and counter productive. I'll probably still get this set though, a crew of Cobra workers is a concept. I wish I had a Rattler to go with em though, guess they'll just have to work with Tech Viper fixing up Trouble Bubbles and Snake Armors.
Can someone help me with a possible more business like to cocktail dress outfit for this figure? I was going to get just the head for a custom, but decided to go for the entire box and contents since it looks fun. I saw someone do a display with Baroness and other Cobra females in what can pass for cocktail dress but also look like something you can fight in. That's what I am looking for that would work with what I am guessing is originally a 6" buck since the Baroness heads I have picked up have also been smaller than any Joe/GI Joe Classified heads/body/bucks in my collection.Thanks!
>>11733482>>11733047>where is the 1-18 generalHere you go friend:https://archive.palanq.win/toy/thread/11681202/#11681202You're OP should post a link to that search engine for all your old GENs. It looks like previous Joe OPs did that.
>>11733342boring, and not even the good kind of boring, because they just redecos the trooper instead of using ordinary uniforms.It needs to be baggy and less ribbed for her enjoyment.>ib4 but then it'd be boringbitch, ever watch an 80s or 90s action movie when the electrician or mechanics wait for the hero to pass by them and then take out their submachine guns to ambush him from behind? Some of the most awesome, suspenseful scenes in movies that used to make me paranoid about my own mailman..... also, Cobra mailman when? Or maybe a fast food worker?
>>11733658No one who's around lots of mechanical stuff with a lot of moving parts is going to wear anything that's too baggy because if your clothes get caught in a machine then you're screwed. I think they look fine. My only complaint is one should have come with the Rattler instead of the gunner. This set depends heavily on having the Rattler. I'm sure that I'll end up with it anyway even though I don't have a Rattler, but it would have been better than the gunner.
>>11733724you've never watched footage of ground crew, have you?Their clothes are baggy.See this figure here? >>11733358 That's the appropiate amount of bagginess for a realistic uniform in the 80s. It's a pretty realistic sculpt though the chest/hip area is slimmed down for all the overlays they use. Soldiers today are even more bulky looking and ground crew should have a little more bagginessThe Ramp Crew looks too superheroy because it's just way too tight. They look likje they're 6'5 and are wearing L sized clothing.
>>11733736One of them is a marshaller and the other is not. And Cobra doesn't have an aircraft carrier, and doesn't play by the same dress codes as normal soldiers do. That's why they have troops with helmets that look like brains.
>>11733737>And Cobra doesn't have an aircraft carrierSo you've never seen ground crew until now and you've also never watched the OG GI Joe cartoons? Did all the real gI Joe fans die?They had like 4 different flying carriers in the cartoon, dude.In the comic, they had like 2, but they didn't fly.And those figures are obviously modeled after the aircraft carrier crew members and that still doesn't change thefact that they wear bulky clothes.And i agree, they shouldn't be looking so mundane and instead be wearing some sickass helmets like the Techno Vipers, who also wear bulky clothing. Very disappointed in HAsbro's current capabilities. It's like they're using c-list designers with low budgets.
>>11733736>The Ramp Crew looks too superheroy because it's just way too tight.Here is a yellowshirt wearing a form fitting uniform. Also your filename is a joke. Carriers don't have a ground crew because they aren't on the fucking ground. It's called a flight deck.
>>11733750>single person wearing a tight shirt>out of 5 membersoh wait, fatty in red's pants aren't loose either, but that's cause he's fat.Nevermind yellow guy's vest actually pretty loose and it's the wind that is pushing against to keep it tight against his body, so his pants are probably loose too, just like red''s. Just look at how much material there is around their feet. baggy as fuck.Nevermind these Ramp Snakes still look like they're 6'5" superheroes in 1 size too small clothing. I'm fine with GI Joes and elite cobra soldiers looking that intimidating, but hanky faced shlubs? Like i said, if they want to go with something mundame, at least be little more realistic. Accessories is what would make a cobra mail carrier or cobra ice cream van man cool, not making them look like they're Captain America in tight uniforms.Check out this chunky uniform, that actually bunches up around the boots and armor like you see on real life soldiers. Wears a coolass helmet, because Cobra trusts their soldiers with 5 years in the future equipment.
>>11733750That's the marshaller. And I'm still trying to figure out why Hasbro would do a Rattler support crew, and at nearly a year after the Rattler's release. It would have been better if they were included with the Rattler since only Rattler owners will have any use for it.
>>11733482>These look like crap, but will very much be the cheapestLook closer. They're upscaled versions of the original, which I think is cool.
>>11733759>Cobra's fleet maintenance troops are Darth Vader, but purpleI never got the appeal of Techno-Vipers.
>>11733759>single person wearing a tight shirt>out of 5 membersI'm not saying "everyone wears (X)" like you are. I'm showing you an example that not all necessarily wear baggy uniforms.>Nevermind yellow guy's vest actually pretty loose and it's the wind that is pushing against to keep it tight against his body, so his pants are probably loose tooGod you are the dumbest fuck on this board. Even when you are shown a real world example of flight deck crew not all wearing baggy uniforms you need to make up your own head canon and pretend you are right.Here is an QA/SO with form fitting pants. Full body shot so you can't make up a fantasy scenario where one's pants are affected by the wind but the rest aren't.And I can post more.I could also explain why most greenshirts and grapes wear loose pants, but I'm sure you'll just argue to pretend that all "aircraft carrier ground crew" fit your head canon.
>>11733342Nice DD's exclusives.
DIRE Night Creeper goes up for pre-order on March 19, and yep it's a Walmart exclusive. If you want one, then just pre-order because if you don't then Walmart's gonna fuck you in finding it locally like they did with the Ghost Viper.
>>11733763The issue with Tech Vipers is Hama having a touch of the old senility and writing them as Cobra's computer tech squad needs instead of Chad Thundercock mechanics who in their day job, would be the type of Chads who run the local garage where they fix cars for a living
>>11733658None of their parts are from Troopers, they use the Low-Light limbs and what I believe is the Dial Tone torso. They share absolutely no body pieces with any of the troopers. >>11733762Oh I'm aware of what it is, that's exactly why I think it looks awful. Scaling up a small, under detailed toy from the 80s makes for an awful 1:12 scale vehicle. Making it bigger just highlights the soft sculpt, simple construction and makes it feel cheap. It completely negates the biggest advantage of working with a larger scale, and that's the ability to add a staggering amount of detail to a product. It's good for those who want toy accuracy, but I would just rather have a cool toy unique unto itself.
>>117337631. Their purple uniforms are super striking and unique2. Even though they are supposed to be grease monkey garage mechanic types like >>11734117 said, Joe fandom has pretty much said "fuck that shit" and force of will fanoned them to be Cobra's internal squad of computer geeks, to the point that even Hama forgot the grease monkey thing and wrote them as the Cobra Trooper always manning computers. 3. They embody the fetish aspect of Cobra trooper uniforms which appeals to gay men into full body anonymous type fetish suits.
The fuck is this, man
>>11734163I'm buying it. Why not?
>>11734163
>>11734130Are you really blaming Hama for the purple Darth Vader design?
>>11734177More for Hama going along with fans making them computer nerds with axes and lasers welders rather than Chad Thundercock mechanics in fetish garbage.
>>11733040Thoughts on mole man?
>>11734130I always saw Techno Vipers as the grease monkey mechanics while the Televipers were the coms and computer nerds.
>>11734198I'm alright with it outside of the lame crystal thing. I know the TF/Joe stuff is canon, I just don't want crystal zombies.
>>11734198Can you put normal unmasked heads on them and just have them be regular Cobra goons?
>>11733786>cherrypicking examples>gets angry when pointed out he's cherrypicking by ignoring 80% of his own photograph>pretends the wind isn't noticeable in the photos>pretending his new photograph doesn't have noticeably bulky clothing: loose vest, puffy shirtAt least the non-fan who was arguing that Cobra doesn't have any air craft carriers knew enough to disappear after being proven wrong, instead of doubling down like you did.If you guys even bothered to have looked, you'd know why the ground crew has bulky uniforms: because they traditionally wear jumpsuits and coveralls. Which are all loose/bulky. Even after they quit doing that, they still didn't stop wearing bulky clothing, hence all the images photographs so far and you know what? They have started wearing coveralls/jumpsuits again.pic is what a machinist wears>>11734128yeah, it's hard to tell what they're from, since shit's re-re-re-re-reused too many times on too many figures. You can tell it's a frankenstein and that's what makes this figure so much more annoying, because the only unique part is disappointingly bad looking. Shit's way too tight.They had way better sculpts before, but again, they had a bigger budget before, so they had access to the better sculptors.It wouldn't surprise me if the majority of the sculptors they use now are either just female who's never seen a military movie in their life and millenials who think guns are icky.
I can finally do this.
>>11734308Everything you said is absolutely moronic. I specifically told you what the parts are from, and they've only been used on all of two....maybe three...figures in a line of nearly 200 releases (this set would actually be 195 in the series, not counting Retro Releases). The new parts look fine, the clothes they're wearing look fine, you're just being a pedantic, and randomly sexist, dumbass for reasons beyond a rational person's comprehension. Everything you said is wrong and the entire thread is worse off because of your comments.
>>11733763If Marvel can have AIM guys, then what's wrong with Cobra having their own division of super mechanics? Purple is best color too.>>11734117>>11734130to be fair to Hama, the comics doesn't regularly have motorpool scenes for cobra and since brand new toys NEED to be prominently featured in the comic, they're going to be placed near the Cobra face characters.If that means acting like intelligence guys handing Cobra Commander a paper, then whatever, because maybe it was some engineering or some other technical problem that needed being solved.Hama wasn't dumb like the cartoon writers, hence the comic outselling everything Marvel at the time and still being praised 40 years later, instead of the LOLSORANDUMXD cartoon that was apparent even to the 80s kids.>>>11734319 a sensitive millennial is speakinghow many meds you on, sister?I mean, even you agree with me that it's been frankensteined 1 too many times and you can't even prove what i said is wrong either, instead just acting like a contrarian.If you want to offer your opinion that GI Joe toys should look more like a superhero toyline, then maybe you should be talking about that, instead of trying to [poorly] justify it with real life examples.Personally, the quasi-futurism of GI Joe is all that's really needed and because they basically already perfected it before, everything is going to seem worse off now. Too many highs notes and now it's treated like go bots.
>>11734308>you'd know why the ground crew has bulky uniformsIf you knew anything, you'd stop calling them ground crew. >because they traditionallyTraditionally, USMC were armed with M16A1s. You might not be aware of the fact that things have changed in the 40 years since you last left your mother's basement to grab a bowl of Cheerios while watching cartoons. >They have started wearing coveralls/jumpsuits again.I'm definitely going to listen to someone that thinks an aircraft carrier has ground crew explain what the current practices of the USN are.Pic is from late last year. Notice the form fitting shirt that clearly doesn't have a jumpsuit under it. Notice the form fitting pants that hug the leg unlike the fat manlet that skipped leg day in the only relevant picture you've posted.>posts pic of a pit snipeNot "ground crew." Maybe next you'll post a pic of a Vietnam tunnel rat. Or maybe you'll stop wasting the thread proving what a retard you are, since we already know.
>>11734351>another cherrypicked image>guy squating in such a way that even loose fitting clothing will be stretched>obviously being blasted with wind or/and jet exhaustEverything you say is contrarian bullshit just to continue arguing.You don't know shit about military either, so STFUYou've never paid attention to any military documentuaries or any military movies, because you'd know they're called ground crew. from face book: /SmithsonianChannelAviationNation/videos/the-most-dangerous-place-on-the-planet/2262699873873270//www.gettyimages.com/detail/video/two-ground-crew-walk-over-to-check-catapult-uss-jfk-2003-news-footage/2234737105www.dvidshub.net/image/8984003/us-navy-sailor-signals-ground-crewThere's a bazillion more links where this came fromStop coming to this thread until you learn more about America and use gooder English, Yusuf.Have you bought any new GI Joes since your Xomat and Tomax? Or was that another third worlder who comes here?
Royal guards are popping up everywhere now >>11734198surprised at the amount of people wanting them, they seem to be the first to clear when the stock arrives at places, mind you it's still slow like upwards of two or three weeks until they clear off the shelf but the other 3 offerings don't go as fast. Lob to no surprise is usually last to go but Nightviper follows behind him.
>>11734351>>11734359anything to keep a thread going huh?
>>11734382They're gonna over-produce them and a successful figure will end up as a Ross clearance like the BAT and Crimson Guard.
>>11734198It's a bit darker and creepy than what's normal for the line.
I usually don't lurk here but wanted to ask since Classified seems to be the best fit:what or who do you anons think I can use from the Classified series to make a custom 1/12 Dragunov from Tekken 8? I already am planning to get a 1/12 cloth gray coat from AliExpress.
>>11734512I think the Col. Siege from Action Force has a torso closer than anything in the Classified parts category. Gonna have to paint the trousers, so any with bloused and lace-up boots will do. Definitely gonna want Mercer/Shockwave/Budo hands.
>>11734518Col. Siege's torso is spot on, unfortunately I can't find him for an affordable price here in Europoor lands, would you know of some alternatives? And what figure would you use for the legs?
>>11734525Something like Grunt or Spirit are pretty non-descript. Techno Viper legs are already purple, but have black knee pads (not sure if that feature will be bothersome), and you'll need to replace the boots, which *shouldn't* be an issue. I'd have to look around at torsos. Most of them are blouses or combat shirt-style.
>>11734512If you cut the vest off, then Falcon from the Falcon/Quarrel 2-pack might work. It even has a similar ugly face.
>>11734359>>11734351 You kids do realize that a terrorist organization is cruising around in giant flying aircraft carriers, submersible carriers and launching attacks form hidden temple ruins. I think reality takes a vacation with Joes and the rule of cool runs roughshod over common sense. So arguments on "how realistic" flight crews are is kind of a moot point.
>>11734639I just realized that Night Force Falcon would be a good base for Resident Evil 5 Chris Redfield.
>>11734687Maybe with Dusty's head with camo-paint removed.
>>11733014Are there any decent sub $100 (preferably sub $50) WW2 1/6th scale GI Joes anymore? I found a few that were cool but looked pretty fragile and were insanely priced.
>>11734735Nope. Well, maybe you may be able to find old Dragon 1:6 for under a c-note.
>>11734351It's amazing how he can be so consistently wrong about everything yet so up his own ass he thinks he doesn't look like a moron. Best to just ignore him or he might start calling you a foreigner or a woman because that's about as clever a 12 year old can get with his insults. >>11734398I'd rather see an overstock of cool figures then having them be impossible to find. I'm still hoping they do a re-run of the Dire Viper for how popular he was. >>11734684I used a slightly modified Avengers Helicarrier for my 1:18 Cobra since they never got anything even close to an official carrier in any toyline. It's literally just a plastic plank with some legs, but it looks cool and can carry two Firebats on the deck with a third on it's little launch pad. Got a trio of v5 Air Vipers as my deck crew, realism be damned.
>>11734777Exclusive is exclusive. Hasbro won't touch the Ghost Viper again, and the Walmart scam of creating artificial scarcity to manipulate the market into wanting it even more so everyone forgets about the bullshit price was successful as it completely sold out. Even though the DIRE Night Creeper has a better price, Walmart is probably going to do the same distribution scam to make fans want that one even more to ensure that one sells out too.
>>11734777>>realism be damned. It's about having fun.
>>11734384Man these last two threads have been walls of text. I'm not dogging anyone and their discussions but yeah, there are a few anons that are very talkative. But gi joe does offer up quite a few points to explore or debate. One thing is fairly consistent here though, the live action movies stink.
>>11734886I'll at least try to include OC pics when appropriate. But sadly most of my collection is boxed up in storage and mostly inaccessible so I only have pics from upwards of a decade ago. Most of which I've probably shared dozen of times over the year. Like pic related of the aforementioned Helicarrier converted for Cobra which was originally taken over thirteen years ago...
>>11734777>Best to just ignore him or he might start calling you a foreignerToo late for that. He already called me Yusuf and told me I need to "learn about America and use gooder English" in the same post that he said I never paid attention to "military documentuaries." I've never heard that word before. I think that's what documentaries are called in Portuguese.The best part is how he cries about cherry picked images while posting his own cherry picked civilian links, and even his only legit source dvidshub has 250 search results in the Navy category for "flight deck crew" vs 40 results for "ground crew." I'm sure he will claim that the majority of sailors are wrong because he saw it in Top Gun or some shit.But hey, this has resulted in some great inside jokes for a couple of buddies who served. I asked one about his time as a hookrunner when he was ground crew on the Nimitz and he just about blew a fuse. They've all seen this thread. They think he is hilarious for many reasons, but especially for incorrectly complaining about the realism of how baggy the Ramp Crew uniforms should be in a toyline that features dayglow orange urban assault troopers.
>>11734684>I think reality takes a vacation with Joes and the rule of cool runs roughshod over common sense.It's cool to have cool shit, but the fact is that they used to pay attention to those little details before WITH COOL SHIT TOO and now they don't (or far less).That attentino to detail shows how much knowledge sculptors/designers had when mixing in the futurism with military realism. It's like they actually studied photographs, watched documentaries, and/or were in the military.Like i said before, because they reached such highs before, anything lower than that cheapens the brand>>11734940>yusuf is butthurt he got called out for being ignorant Good job for learning from me that ground grew is a correct term and can be used interchangably with deck crew.now stop ignoring your own photographs showing how bulky their uniforms are.I know third worlders have an inferiority complex but if you stopped being such contrarians, maybe you'll stop being seen as third world. No need to double down on your ignorance.
>>11735037>Good job for learning from me that I'm a retarded civvy that thinks people erroneously labelling photos means I am rightAs predicted.>I know third worlders have an inferiority complexAre you talking about just you or your whole family? Did you watch documentuaries with them back in the old favela?
>>11734914Hasbro really needs to reissue the Firebat because even the anniversary one sells for bullshit prices now.>>11735037>military realismBazooka saw a sea serpent that was really a snake-shaped submarine, bro. Realism takes a back seat in GI Joe.
https://youtu.be/TSfFlsy5TO0I know this guys videos are hated here but I was recommended this, and then I remembered that guy who said he probably only waits for Ross sales and no, he just has a lot of money
>>11735283It's his money to waste on that many bug-people troops.
>>11735112I want new Firebats in both 1:18 ME scale AND Classified. It was always one of my favorite Cobra aircraft as it has that perfectly compact size to swoosh about really nice, but doesn't look comically small or silly while doing so. Sadly the Joes never really had a comparatively small fighter craft. I always felt Sky Hawks were more comparable to Cobra FANG Choppers as smaller close air ground support vehicles and SHARCs were submersibles first in my eyes. The Joes didn't really get a good micro-jet fighter until the Tigerhawk in the early 2000s. But even that was filled with silly gimmicks and never really made an impact on the line.
So your GI Joe movie written by Max Landis is officially DOA, people - so those of you dreaming of a movie where Cobra reined supreme will still be dreaming:https://deadline.com/2026/03/g-i-joe-max-landis-paramount-passes-1236754006/Some of the reporting is that Paramount is now looking at the Danny McBridge treatment from the last thread, but as several people pointed out, it will be a movie written by committee, that will probably steal a few ideas from whatever Landis wrote and whatever McBride wrote and ultimately be written by one to three other people. Surely a studio that just took on a 100B in debt will nimble be able to turn this around into a quick movie soon, before Mattel releases Matchbox and several other films that turn audiences off toy-related movies. I mean, you all have been enjoying that Lady Jaye series with your Crapazon monthly payments, right?tl;dr don't expect a movie before 2027-28, if that.
>>11735427I've said it before with us being in year 6 of the series, and not having a Firebat by now is Hasbro jacking us around. There's no good reason why they haven't done it by now. >>11735430I don't think it's a good idea. They already blew through their chances for GI Joe in the Transformers cinematic world when using regular military instead of Joes in the Bayverse.
>>11735430>https://variety.com/2026/film/news/max-landis-gi-joe-movie-script-paramount-passes-1236688071/>Reached via Instagram, Landis told Variety he was “tremendously grateful to have been given the opportunity.” He elaborated that his pitch came together “very serendipitously based on the coolness of the weird and subversive idea.” That idea centered around the film franchise’s villain, Cobra, “having successfully taken over the world and reduced GI Joe to a conspiracy theory. But this is just how big IP development always is. Honestly, I was surprised it was reported at all.”What the fuck is with so many GI Joe stories trying to make them a ragtag group of underdogs? That's not what GI Joe is or ever should be.
>>11735430....and nothing of value was lost>>11735434The hell you on about, they only started doing larger vehicles at retail in 2024. Since then we've gotten four, three of em new molds. Considering this is one of their smaller lines, the fact we're even getting those is impressive. I fully expect to see something like a Moccasin, Sky Hawk or Armadillo come out before the Firebat. But it's not like they're avoiding popular vehicles, the Vamp/Stinger and AWE Striker are all iconic vehicles and the SNAKE Armor update was awesome. I'll be very happy if they can keep up the whole "two larger vehicles at retail" schedule though because we'll burn through those early year vehicles in no time.
>>11735492 G.I.Joe. Worlds without End. The Movie. Start: They've got the call. COBRAS's up to something. (like usual.) The team is oscar mike with confusing visuals thrown up. The main briefing computer just plain dies. Mainfraime, who had been working with it as they gathered pulls open an access panel. grabs a "black box." (that trails sparking wires.) hits with a hammer and shrugs. The briefing goes on. cut to. Flint and Lady J are in a nice restaurant. he's in a tux. she's in a hot red number. They are caught mid toast to something.by buzzing comwatches.The rise and Lady J drops a pile of bills that have just *appeared* Flint raises a brow. "Next time you pay. I'll have the lobster." The go to a beater car and pull two hockey bags out.of the trunk.from the the bags unfold powered FALCON gliders. The go back to HQ. They separate with some sort of 2 group battle plan and a slightly better version of the cartoon plays out. It's not "The World" it's only the Unites States that was taken in by COBRA. (background. COBRA (or something) promised them jobs and to "help America regain it's God-given rightful place in the world." Now we have places for Mindbender as heading the "Champion for Science" branch of the CSA. We still get the defector Baroness story.. We see "practical" female COBRA troops with her - but we also see the "Libyan guard type in the new COBRA White House.
>>11735112the cartoon was pretty retarded and even kids in the 80s knew it was retarded, but I'm talking about sculptors/designers for the toys. GI Joes had that vietnam-era casualness uniform look and sculptors were putting way more effort into it back in the day.Ok, I'm not talking about in the 80s, when the sculptors were limited by what they thought was the limit to their manfacturing process, but rather in the 25th+ era, when the sculptors were allowed to go as realistic as possible and show off their skills. It's like they went back to the original designers art and go all out.Whereas the new sculpts look like they're comic artists who need to draw 22 pages in 20 days and want keep the clothes as clingy as possible to save time or like 3d modelers who are afraid of the baggy clothes textures clipping because of hardware limitations.>>11735044>jusuf continues proving he's a third worlder because he doesn't know who the smithsonin and reuters areThe the trusted historical institute and news organizations in the world are all wrong because a third worlder who owns 6 GI Joes says so, eh? Nevermind a site that exists solely to shill the US military.Are you going to say that the US military is wrong too? Here's the US military itself writing about how ground crew on a US warship hunted down submarines https://www.history.navy.mil/about-us/leadership/director/directors-corner/h-grams/h-gram-069/h-069-1.html
>>11735700>trusted historical instituteThe same trusted historical institute that has repeatedly bought fake artefacts and artwork? I'm sure they never make mistakes.>news organizationsThe same news organisations that don't know the difference between a semi-automatic and an automatic weapon?>Here's the US military itself writing about how ground crew on a US warship hunted down submarinesThere is one instance of "ground crew" in that entire article, and it is as follows:>As the Japanese advanced, Langley subsequently arrived at Darwin, Australia, on 1 January 1942, where she assisted in anti-submarine patrols until 11 January, when she was ordered south to Freemantle to serve as an aircraft ferry and embark 32 P-40 fighters and their U.S. Army Air Force pilots and ground crew chiefs.Do you know what U.S. Army Air Force pilots and ground crew chiefs are?Do you know what embark means?Do you know what ferry means?Do you know what until means?The anti-submarine patrols occured "until 11 January, when she was ordered south to Freemantle to serve as an aircraft ferry" so this non-naval ground crew that was stationed on land until they were picked up by the Langley to be ferried elsewhere had nothing to do with the submarine hunt.>Departing Freemantle on 22 February 1942 with a convoy destined for Ceylon, Langley subsequently had a sudden change of orders to take the fighters to Tjilatjap, a port on the south coast of Java.Definitely no submarine hunting happening after the Langley embarked 32 P-40 fighters and their U.S. Army Air Force pilots and ground crew chiefs and departed Freemantle.Pretty brave of you to come out and prove that a simple paragraph written in plain English is truly beyond your comprehension, Juan Garcia Manuel Sanchez. It really must be your second language.
>>11735734>jusuf still arguing after being proven wrong 3 times in this thread alone and pretending he knows better than renown agencies who've produced millions of paper/video/audios and used as fact checkign resources by researcherscringeYou remind me of those third worlders who fill a bucket up with dirt to put a grounding wire into it. Since your brain wasn't fully formed due to your poor nutrition from living in a shitty country:The navy doesn't draw distinction between "ground" and a ship's deckhttps://www.navy.mil/Press-Office/News-Stories/display-news/Article/2260536/air-supports-ground-support/>ib4 your third worlder education makes you more knowledgable than a guy who works on ship and allowed to speak on the entire navy's behalf
>>11735799>Pablo is seething and can't admit that he completely misunderstood an article where US Army Airforce ground crew hitched a ride with the Navy and even thought they helped the Navy hunt submarines despite them not even being on the ship at that pointI know most of the country can't read beyond a 6th grade level, but how does it feel to be even lower than that? Don't worry, one day you might get it to a level where you can pass the citizenship test. It's unlikely though.>You remind me of those third worlders who fill a bucket up with dirt to put a grounding wire into it.Not something I'm familiar with, but I'm sure you are speaking from experience. Why did your mother fill a bucket with dirt to put a grounding wire in it? Did she think it would prevent her children from being retarded? Obviously it didn't work.Anyway, I'm not wasting my time reading anything else that you've misinterpreted because you "non comprehende Inglese" or however you favela monkeys say it.
>>11735805>ignores 99% of everything posted to nitpick at at a single point thinking it'll prove his unproven claimSo the Smithsonian, Reuters, navy officers, a military shilling site, and thousands of other places (i'll post another one: www.bridgemanimages.com/en-US/noartistknown/ground-crew-position-an-ea-6b-prowler-aircraft-aboard-the-u-s-s-enterprise-in-the-northern-gulf-dece/photograph/asset/7623851 ) are all wrong, because someoine with brown hands who's writing fanfiction says they are? You am good arguer who don't need to gib his own supporting proof, huh?Pic is you, right?>ib4 it's another third worlder who's been shitposting in the gi joe general with the same vernacular and formatting as youpost 3 cobra figures in front of a wall socket to prove you're totally somebody new
You little goobers argue about the dumbest shit. Learn not to reply to subjectanon. He just takes the contrarian route every time so he can get replies and people talking to him. He's a lonely old man you see.
>>11735833>nitpick at at a single pointYou can't tell the difference between the USAAF and the USN to realise why they referred to the ground crew in that article. You can't even tell if people are on a boat or not when you are reading a story.I'm not nitpicking a point, I'm exposing you inability to comprehend a basic English paragraph.And since you want to keep going, I did a quick ctrl f of your last link written by a naval officer and "ground crew" didn't appear once.>I'll post a British art photography website because they definitely will know what the correct military term isFucking hell. >So all of my civilian sources are wrong about something in the military?It wouldn't be the first time.>post 3 cobra figures in front of a wall socketI've seen you do this before. I saw you play this game with another anon in a thread recently when you challenged him to post his toys but you refused to post yours when he asked. It's what you do when you lie, or are wrong and cornered, but refuse to back down. The fact that you hoard other anon's pics for shitposting purposes is a clear red flag.And I don't give in to the demands of foreigners. Sorry, Miguel. Maybe you should spend some time taking English lessons instead of hoarding other people's pics.>>11735834I'm done. We are up to the "fishing for pics of other anon's toys so I can stalk them or post them as my own because I don't buy toys anymore" stage of the argument. Nobody that has ever given into that demand has ever had it benefit them.
>>11735494>Considering this is one of their smaller lines, the fact we're even getting those is impressive. I fully expect to see something like a Moccasin, Sky Hawk or Armadillo come out before the Firebat.Hasbro should be shitting out the small vehicles with regular frequency because of them being smaller and cheaper. And the Firebat isn't complicated, so there's no reason to over-engineer it with back hatches and other shit. >>11735600>G.I.Joe. Worlds without End.That's awesome. They even had a part where the Joes encounter their own dead bodies in an alternate universe, which was competely fucked-up for an 80s children's cartoon. BUT this is Hollywood. They'll always choose to do their own thing instead of puling what's already been done so the director can claim his own story.
>>11735700>the cartoon was pretty retarded and even kids in the 80s knew it was retardedNot true. "Soldiers fighting war" would get boring fast, so the writers knew how to make each episode different and interesting. So toss in Indiana Jones treasure-hunting, an alternate dimension where all the Joes are dead, synthoids, dinosaurs, Cobra controlling elections by controlling the candidates, and such. Cobra even fucked with the Rothschilds by trying to replace Rotchchilds-money woth Cobra-money. >>11735833>not using happy-face Euro sockets, and instead using Brit-sockets
>>11735853>jusuf needs to pretend the smithsonian, reuters, navy officers, and other verified sources are wrong because he's just an ignorant third worlder who's only learning about military stuff from my postsI also love how you won't prove you're totally not samefag, because you don't have any other Cobra figures other than the Crimson figures you bought (pic related. notice the post formating and vernacular is identical to your posts today) and can't change the color of your skinEveryone should post more of their toys to show they're not just trolls making up contrarian arguments to shit the place up like Yusuf, who thinks he knows better than military documentaries or aviation "magazines" like link: https://www.key.aero/article/aboard-uss-gerald-r-ford-next-generation-aircraft-carrierAlso also really like how you learn how to insult people from me. It's almost cute, because it shows how young and inexperienced you are. Now if only you could actually imitate being able to find sources to prove anything you say is correct... oh wait, you can't, because you'd need to discredit the smithsonian, reuters, the US navy, etc and a third worlder like you can only "no u" 5 times a day to shit the GI Joe General up.
>topic derailed by whether or not the marshaller (yellow) and ordinanceman (red) on an aircraft carrier wear loose or outright-baggy pants. You guys just want to fight. I posted this pic of Destro with his cousin just to throw something else to argue about.
>>11735864Ever watch Strike Back?Used to run on Skinemax back in the day. It's basically GI Joe and it ran for like 10 years. Cool operatives doing commando things with a tacticool overacting storyline each season.If you write something good, it can go on for a very long time, hence original GI Joe comic going for 12 years on a monthly schedule AND having a spin off comic that did more standalone stories. PLUS renewals at two different publishers decades later.Shit was praised to hell back in the day and is still held in high regard.Whereas the GI Joe cartoons did get old fast, mocked even by its fans, hence only going for 2 seasons each. Other action cartoons lasted longer, because they were better done (sometimes only slightly). Batman:TAS (with network renewel on WB). Superman:TAS. XMen:TAS. TMNT.Even Transformers got a better written series with Beast Wars AND it revived the franchise, getting a new generation interested into it beyond what the OG series got.but nah... instead we're getting more poorly written shit and for some reason, people are mocking the next movie, despite probably getting better writing than the OG cartoon which gets defended way too much. nostalgia is a poison.>>>11735872It was actually derailed because some third worlder didn't like that Hasbro was criticized for not putting more effort into their sculpts, so instead of defending that, he had to shift the argument to "military documentaries are wrong." It's called deflection.
>>11735874Military docs aren't wrong, but they don't fully-disclose everything due to national security. And they shouldn't. There's shit people shouldn't know. And the Sunbow cartoons ended because of that retarded GI Joe movie. The DIC cartoons were just plain cheap, and made within the transition from pandering to Gebn-X kids who were in junior high and even high school at that point, to a new younger demographic (millenials). Somehow millenial kids liked brightly-colored vehicles, figures, and accessories. They liked more goofy stories. And they were apparently gay as Hasbro wasn't making any more female figures, for which DIC had to bring in Lady Jaye and Baroness in spite of having no toys available just to keep the catrtoon from being a total sausage-fest.
>>11735874You're the kind of guy who loves to hear himself talk aren't you?
>>11735877>Military docs aren't wrong, but they don't fully-disclose everything due to national securityThey also simplify things and tone down the jargon to more everyday terminology so that normies can understand it.
>>11735874>didn't like that Hasbro was criticized for not putting more effort into their sculptsFor the longest time they didn't. Many good figures were ruined by shit head sculpts. Plus leg pins and awkward proportions. This past year saw the best figures in the line as far as head sculpts and overall proportions go (in my opinion). They're getting it together. They just need to make new versions of figures that the first versions of were quite shitty. Last year they tried to improve Falcon's fuck-ugly face but it was still off. Now if we can only get a battle armor Baroness that doesn't look like shit.
>>11735877The movie was actually less retarded than the series, but both are still retarded.You can't hold kids attentions for long with retarded shit, hence only getting two seasons.Whereas the GI Joe comic held kids attentions all the way from grade school to college. There were GI Joe fans who literally kept reading the comic from 7 years old until they were 19, hence GI Joe having one of the biggest adult fanbases and making up 25% of sales in the early 00s.You say they like goofy stories, but how long did it take for them to even make cartoon accurate toys? 30 years? And they didn't even seem to do well, despite a very large adult fanbase.Adult fans already very happy, because Hasbro was already catering to adult interests with comic pack redesigns almost 20 years ago. AND these figures were mass market kids toys, so the audience was huge. Shit, the comic packs had as much shelf space as the Classified line does today.Nevermind no one really wants goofy GI Joe stories today. Whereas people love goofy TMNT, while still wanting more edgy comic/movie TMNT>but the public service announcements memesit's sad when retards take ridicule as camaraderie
>>11735898The comic book sales weren't exactly "top ten," bro. And those figures were shit because of the new head sculpts. I get that they wanted reissues but wanted them done in a way that didn't hit the value of the originals, but damn they were ugly. And I would have liked the comic book reissues better if they were in classic newsprint paper instead of the slick gloss paper. >Nevermind no one really wants goofy GI Joe stories today.Are you sure? Hama's "serious" GI Joe comic books out are more niche-market than the toys are. "Cold Slither" originaly sold out in the blink of an eye. It didn't become a dust-collector in Hasbro's warehouse until they re-ordered too many, but they do that a lot with turning a success into an over-produced shelf-warmer. The snowcat's fully-funded in spite of it being based on a cartoon episide ("Haul Down the Heavens") and it shows with the cartoon-likeness figures. A lot of people want the "serious" stuff with a realistic foundation, but a lot collect the cartoon cheese.
>>11735910comic sales were top 1, or near enough regularly, for a couple of years. It did top 10, even in its first years, thanks to the TV ads.https://web.archive.org/web/20190604115814/https://blog.comichron.com/search/label/G.I.%20Joeto compare to Marvel's other #1https://www.comichron.com/titlespotlights/amazingspiderman.htmlGI Joe was doing sales Marvel hadn't seen regularly for decades >a convention exclusive they made 10-20k of sold outOMG!!!!>but somehow they reordered moreoh, so you don't understand how toys are made, muchless understand how few of those exclusives are made.It takes MONTHS to start production again, because it takes MONTHS to produce any sort of toy and then another month to get that shit shipped. They wouldn't reorder an exclusive, because of how long it takes. What likely happened is either bullshit FOMO, pretending shit sold out ot get rid of the last few cases OR they found 10 more cases behind a case of water bottles.. which apparently, they still can't get rid of almost a year later? What a poor seller.>And those figures were shit because of the new head sculptsDoesn't sound like you were alive in the 00s. Those figures were highly praised everywhere, even when people did have a problem with the heads being slightly too small. Those comic packs one of the few times the fanbase was hyped up over o-ring figures back then. The Cobra Infantry pack got almost as much hype, because that also saw a revamping of the old designs. Everything else was pretty disappointing, even the Viper one, because a lot of people complained about the body the moment it was announced.
Guys please don't reply to him. He'll just take up whatever the opposite stance of you just so people will talk to him. He loves to "hear" the sound of his own voice. Don't indulge him
>>11735939That's 1985. How about later years, which is what I thought you were referring to? And those totals have to be the totals of one distributor or retailer because they're way too low to be the actual numbers. I know that's what comic bok sales look like now, but back then successful titles sold hundreds of thousands of copies each, which is why 80s books largely struggle tob e worth anything. >It takes MONTHS to start production againNo it doesn't unless the factory is running at full capacity, and toy sales aren't what they used to be and Hasbro's been strugggling with sales, so "full capacity" is doubtful. >Doesn't sound like you were alive in the 00s. Those figures were highly praised everywhere, even when people did have a problem with the heads being slightly too small.I was alive, and didn't see that anywhere. The ones I remember being the best-sellers were the troops and vipers sets due to years of army-builders making the originals to be too expensive. And I remember people somehow praising weird JoeCon exclusives like orange Zartan as well as the Crimson boxed set. Somehow people even liked the BAT set even though it was the goofy V.2 version since Hasbro lost the V.1 mold. But the fucked-up heads with brighter colors? Nope. Roadblock looked like shit with yellow pants. Zarana looked like a lesbian gym teacher. Battle armor CC's helmet was "WTF?" And Scrap Iron was still Scrap Iron - but brighter. The biggest sellers were the vehicles. They even gave us a "Jetfire" Skystriker in this and the 25th anniv. era, which was cooler than shit.
>>11735898>You can't hold kids attentions for long with retarded shit, hence only getting two seasons.I can't tell if you are baiting or just one of those people that makes up stuff in your head without any real research, GIJoe last into the 90s on TV. The reason it switch between Sunbow and DiC was because DiC offered to do it much cheaper than Sunbow and Hasbro was more in a pitch after a bombed TF movie and pulling other films like the Joe one from ever going to theaters, so they took the cheaper option, worth noting that's a big reason why the comics lasted as long as it did as Hama noted he was paid peanuts during the marvel run and claim to have been paid better for his run on Generation X than all of the Joe run to that point. >the GI Joe comic held kids attentions all the way from grade school to collegeWe need to breakdown context of both sales and the fact Hasbro was footing the bill, a cartoon is very costly to keep making even back then the amount of costs from staff to air time would just eat any profits. Comics on the other hand were much cheaper to keep going which is why many toy brands had comics in the 80s but not full Toy commerca- I mean cartoons. You can't get more midwit than to just assume a product lasting is on the consumer side alone. Then again that's How Mattel scammed higher ups in the 70s so perhaps it's just in human nature to assume as you do anon. >no one really wants goofy GI Joe stories today. They take them, the issue is it demands a hint of balance due to the military themes, they can't go as wild and lose as TMNT or Transfomers because at the end GIJoe is a Special Forces group that fights comparable enemies. And looking how well the TFxJoe comics did proves they will take that goofy if played right.
>>11735943Eh, it's a slow enough board, let him have his (You)s
>>11735948He doesn't deserve them
>>11735950Bro this board gets at best 50 IPs a week, hardly anyone here is real and threads won't be remembered.The anon could out right die and we never know. Same with you, same with me. Talk over the post you don't like, report them if the break the rules but otherwise keep yourself grounded in the reality you are in a thread about plastic toys that will rot after you are dead and gone.
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>>11735959>The anon could out right die and we never knowYou must be new, subjectanon is a known shit stiirrer who has been here for over a decade. His posts are incredibly easy to spot if you haven't been here for a week and he is impossibly obnoxious and will get into arguments with anyone for any reason. Best course of action is to not engage with him. Also, you really should lurk moar if you don't know who fucking subjectanon is.
>>11735943Not my fault people have ignorant beliefs like Cobra didn't have aircraft carriers, that the smithsonian documentaries are wrong, saying that GI Joe wasn't top 10, or that a factory can produce something within a month>>11735945the pic is 1985 and the link is 1986And it doesn't sound like you know about how the comics got TV commercials, hence GI Joes quickly becoming popular: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6kmq0XsZ38Pretty much every GI Joe documentary has talked about these commercials and how successful the comics became because of them.Pic is 1984, but these numbers are only rank how much the comics sold at comic shops and not newstands (where kids who were watching the ads bought their comics) nor subscription numbers. So despite comic shops being a no-no zone for kids back in the 80s, GI Joe was still ranking pretty high up on the list.>No it doesn'tLiterally does. Everyone who's been on /toy/ long enough has backed enough kickstarters to know how long it takes. Even McFarlane with his Medieval Spawn, packaging ready, and molds already producing test samples still took 3 months to get his figure released once the KS ended and only because he shipped DIRECTLY from Hong Kong.There's so many other issues in how complicated toy making is, i can spend 2 more posts writing about all the shit you're ignorant about.https://www.longpacktoys.com/figure-toys-manufacturing/vinyl-figure-toys-pricing-faq/40 days according to these guys just to manfacture and vinyl is super easy to producehttps://www.marketplace.org/story/2023/12/22/why-does-it-sometimes-take-so-long-to-manufacture-and-ship-action-figures>I was alive, and didn't see that anywherebitch, plz. You were 2 years old in 2006 then. yojoe still exists and both generaljoes & JBL praised them all, even when shitting on themHere's yojoe still wanting more https://forums.yojoe.com/showthread.php?t=38205 and 12248 with no bashing anywhere like unpopular shit gets.
>>11735863I wouldn't really consider a 1:12 scale Firebat to be a "small vehicle". Small vehicles in this line are things like motorcycles, jet packs and trouble bubbles. A Firebat would be almost as long as the HISS tank, though much lighter without having to factor in the treads. It would easily be an $80-100 vehicle though, which is one of their higher price points for retail releases. Still feasible, but not a pricepoint they can pump dozens of items out for in a year. Two a year is a good rate, even if one ends up being a repaint/remold. Throw in them now doing Made-to-order repaints of Haslab, on top of all their smaller stuff, and Hasbro is pumping out vehicles for this line at a good pace.Personally, I'd want to see an Armadillo get released next. I'd love to have an updated Classified version to go against the HISS tank in lieu of other options. The Ramen tank was cool and all, but way too traditional for my tastes as far as Joes go. I wish they made the double laser turret tank in tan or green to go better with Joes. The Grid Iron offerings are way too pricey for my tastes and the only other option at this scale is the tan camo McFarlane Tumbler...which is cheap....but also very *cheap*. It also doesn't scale well with Joes so the cockpit needs a TON of mods to work well.
>>11736003>I wouldn't really consider a 1:12 scale Firebat to be a "small vehicle".It actually is. It's not as small as a CLAW or Trouble Bubble, but it still is. And there's nothing to it, so it wouldn't be as complicated as the Snake armor or HISS. My only belief is that since Hasbro got out the CLAW, Trouble Bubble, and Rattler, then the Firebat or even the FANG isn't a priority. They did hint at a FANG back in 2023's Starduster box, but nothing came out of that. And for the Joes I guess they're happy with just the Dragonfly and jetpack. >Personally, I'd want to see an Armadillo get released nextI want a Firebat. It's one of the most aesthetically-pleasing vehicles in the entire series that still holds up after four decades, and it's small enough (ergo hopefully cheap enough) for collectors to fleet-build them.
>>11735947You're right that money is a reason, because you need good ratings to keep on paying. Fact is, the ratings were falling, so shit got canceled and got replaced with budget shitAnd even in the 90s, despite GI Joe toyline hitting its biggest year since the 80s, the next cartoon still got canceled and the toyline kept on selling great (but not good enough because Hasbro saw superheroes were doing better).>paid better for his run on Generation X than all of the Joe run to that pointI find this hard to believe, considering GI Joe was selling more than Spdierman and Xmen at times. Fucking Chris Claremont had his own fucking jet thanks to writing XMen in the 80s. IF you lookat that spiderman link, even Spiderman wasn't pulling in 300k+ after the spec market crashed and Gen X came after that. Was Hama's contract that poor?Or was HAma including his Wolverine pay along with Gen X?... wait, nevermind, because Hama didn't start doing Gen X until like 1998. sales were much shittier in the late-90s and sales were going under 100k even in the top 10. So he had a book selling 300k+ for years to a book selling ~90k and he made more money with the 90k book? WTF?... maybe he's using 80s $ vs 90s $ before inflation?>the fact Hasbro was footing the bill,Hasbro was paying for ads n shit and sometimes paid Hama to do contractor work (file cards). Anything Marvel Comic was done by Marvel Comics, not Hasbro. Is this where the confusion is? Because i can see him being paid less for writing the files cards/concepts than he did for writing an actual comic. Anyway, the comic kept on going until Hasbro pulled the license. It never went below cancellation numbers, unlike Transformers, Star Wars, or other shitty licensed comics>looking how well the TFxJoe comics did In opposite land?www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2014/2014-07.html20k is 6k below current Marvel cancellation numbers and only 12k finished it. widely hated on /co/ too
>>11735987>bitch, plz. You were 2 years old in 2006 then. yojoe still exists and both generaljoes & JBL praised them all, even when shitting on themThose were probably the same people who praised Spy Troops and Valor Versus Venom in spite of those figures absolutely sucking. And the simple fact is the comic book series didn't last very long before it got replaced by the anniversary line.
>>11736018>Fucking Chris Claremont had his own fucking jet thanks to writing XMen in the 80s.That was when comic books were actually profitable, and not just for blanket-maintaining IP copyrights so they don't expire from non-use. Hasbro let GI Joe copyrights expire once before from non-use (and Transfomers too). They had a hell of a time reclaiming a lot of them, and some they couldn't reclaim at all without clever wording gymnastics like copyrighting "Autobot Jazz" in place of the lost copyright to just "Jazz" (as an example).>because you need good ratings to keep on paying.Or you could be a cheap bastard who realized that kids kept buying the toys in spite of the lack of media to support them, so the 22-minute infomercial was no longer needed.
>>11736018Well at least I know you are getting your answers from chat bots now.....
>>11736018You don't even know they have done a TFxJoe 4 times now? Anon gave no context which one he was talking about. Likely to bait you.
>>11735987Go away you fart huffer, what part of no one likes you here do you not get?
>Muh comic vs muh cartoonCan't we like both? I started reading the comic recently and it's very cool. I've also seen a little bit of the cartoon and it's a lot of fun. They're different takes (comic more "grounded" and a bit grittier, at least by the standards of 80s kids' entertainment, whilst the cartoon is a fair bit sillier and more family-friendly but does still have stakes) but they're both cool. I dunno, I'm not claiming to be some kind of Joe oldhead here but I don't think "I like these both for different reasons" is that controversial an opinion. I can like Kwinn AND Cold Slither, you know?
>>11736035Personally, I don't care for either. Too goofy for me. I only collect the more realistic looking guys.
>>11736035Yeah you can like both, you're just in a autistic zone where people have to fight about things for some reason
>>11736026>That was when comic books were actually profitableexactly, so why the fuck wasn't Larry Hama making bank when Chris Claremont's book was just beneath his?!... but i forget that Claremont was also writing New Mutants at the time, but fucking Claremont bought a fucking JET. Even at HALF the book sales, you could still buy a fucking lambo or ferrari or both!Can you find me a source on Larry Hama talking about how he made less money from GI Joe than Gen X? something isn't adding up and I'm really curious on what details you might have missed.And comics were still profitable until like 201x (maybe 202x?), but when they're owned by big corporations, they expect profits/revenue to keep going up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up or it's no longer worthwhile.. .if they weren't being an IP farm.i mocked IDW for making only 20k in sales for TFxGI Joe, but 20k is pretty good for a small publisher. Granted, it's a gigantic fall from where GI Joe used to stand and is LITERALLY WHO numbersAlso currently GI Joe sells at least twice that at Image (and 100k for its first issue). >>11736020You would know that if you were actually around at the time, but you obviously weren't.Everyone knew the GI Joe VS Cobra lines' faults. Some people could live with it and some couldn't, hence prices for o-ring jobs getting higher and higher. 25th changed everything.
>>11736030I assumed he was talking about the shitty scioli one, since it's super fucking goofy.Is there another goofy one? I have Marvel and Dreamwave's, which are played mostly straight. I also have edgy IDW series by the other Jae Lee. I assume he wasn't talking about the Image one since it's too new.>>11736035like two guys got butthurt that i didn't like that Cobra's ground crew had poor sculpts/too much reuse, so they wanted to show off how good their third world's education system to disagree with anything else i said.The guy talking about comics seems cool though.
>>11736035The cartoon had Baroness in a bikini as well as giant vegetables, so checkmate, comicfags.
>>11736046It was the late 90s/early 00s when comic books went from being available at every gas station and convenience store in the country to only being available at specialty comic book shops. That's a huge factor.
>>11736052I hate whoever decided that since they like Baroness then she can't be evil, so she has to be a Joe now. Her being a psychotic evil bitch is 100% of her appeal.
>>11736200I'm surprised they haven't made a classified series figure of this design yet, what's the hold upThough the marvel legends team is extremely slow to make any new designs that people actually want also
>>11736317The holdup is (((THE LIST))). At the end of each year they produce a list of everything they're going to produce in the next year. And they stick to the list even if half or more of what they produce become unsellable clearance fodder. IF the fandom tosses out an idea that grabs the attention of someone at Hasbro, then MAYBE it'll make it on next year's list. Maybe. They're so fucking stubborn like that. What they want comes first. If there's anything you want, then buy the crap you don't want to keep the line going because if your local stores stop carrying it then it's your fault for not buying the crap you never wanted while holding out for what you did want.
>>11735877>And the Sunbow cartoons ended because of that retarded GI Joe movie.No, the GI Joe and Transformers cartoons both ended because they'd already made enough episodes for syndication and Hasbro wanted to fund cartoons to promote their newer toy lines, so we got things like Inhumanoids and Visionaries instead.Whatever the flaws of the DIC cartoon, it says something that Hasbro did want to put money into another cartoon promoting GI Joe again in those years.>And they were apparently gay as Hasbro wasn't making any more female figuresYou keep making this argument, when it's more likely the reason was that the female figures Hasbro had been making in earlier years weren't selling.>DIC had to bring in Lady Jaye and Baroness in spite of having no toys available just to keep the catrtoon from being a total sausage-fest.Note that Inhumanoids and Visionaries also had female characters who existed in the cartoons and comics but Hasbro had no plans to make toys of them even if those lines had lasted longer, plus Transformers dropping plans for an Arcee figure in three different years.
>>11736035I'm with you, anon. There's too many people who think you have to like one and hate the other and constantly trash it.These threads used to be fun but now they're just constantly hostile, just a lot of asses farting at each other.
>>11736200You mean in the comics? We still get Cobra Baroness toys
>>11736369He's talking about the Energon Universe comics, which are probably just doing a very slow-burn towards the Baroness betraying the Joes to join Cobra, but people are acting like it's never going to happen.Stuff that looked permanent in the EU Transformers book changed very quickly after the writer changed, so even if the current Joe writer doesn't want the Baroness to be evil, he won't be there forever.
>>11735874 I've been suggesting something like Strike Back for years here.
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>>11736101The charts i posted are from the mid-80s, which wasn't the comic industry's hayday, but GI Joe was selling better than all other comics had been for decades. IT was beating out XMen and Spiderman as the number one comic at Marvel for a while.And the mid-80s is when Chris Claremont bought his fucking jet, thanks to his XMen (and new mutant) comics.So for Larry Hama to not be making Lamborghini money (Marc Silvestri who drew XMEn got lambo), his contract must have sucked really bad. ... or maybe he did make ferarri tier money, but he made more with gen x? But that's still 300k sales vs 90k....>>11736354>the GI Joe and Transformers cartoons both ended because they'd already made enough episodes for syndicationThere's more to it. Stuff like (all of these are first run syndicated shows, just like GI Joe and Transformers) TMNT, Beast Wars, DuckTales and others were syndicated too, but thansk to their ratings, they got picked up by network tv. They basically got free money to continue producing more episodes.The reason you hear about the 52 episode rule for syndication is because that's how many episodes a show needs at minimum for stations to consider picking it up for syndication. So a formly popular show that only has 2 seasons but is losing its audience will order half of a third season to get to those 52 episodes, and then gets canceled afterward to continue making money.Basically, is the show popular enough to continue going past 3 seasons? If not, it gets canceled. It's pretty rare for a show that has two full seasons to not get a third one due to everyone wanting that syndication money. Lots and lots of mid and low-tier shows you've never heard of never got picked up for syndication, but then cable came in and they needed to fill in 24 hours of dead air. So SciFi aired aired Droids, War of the Worlds, and other shitty shit.pic drank super Tang to gain the IQ to run the White House every Wednesday night on NBC.
>>11736530Silvestri did the Witchblade comic books for Image, who let creators keep more of the money. He also did a whole lot of side projects to pick up some more cash. Indie titles were really big in the 90s.
>>11736530The first season of GI Joe had a massive 50 episodes. That's unusual even today. The second season had 30 episodes. That's 80 episodes in 2 years. Throw in the three movies broken down into 5-part mini-series each. That's more than enough for syndication.
>>11736533yep, Silvestri is an image comic founder (with cyberforce, btw) who got famous from his xmen and wolverine runs. Spent all hsi money on cars and bitches.>>11736535>That's unusual even today. It wasn't all that unusual back in the day, hence shit like Ducktales, Inspector Gadget, Spiral Zone, Heathcliff, MLP, COPS, and a bunch of other 80s shows had 50+ episodes in their first season. They were very front heavy, because they wanted to to be shown every single day. Syndication was the wild west in the 80s.Other syndicated shows like TMNT started small (like GI Joe), and once proven popular ballooned to 40, and THEN got picked up by CBS to have regular seasons to be shown on saturday mornings. like Ducktales, it got an extended life due to staying popular.And GI Joe was already syndicated, hence first run syndication, like the other examples I've given. Again, you're thinking of the terminology from the perspective of network shows getting syndicated. First run shows like GI Joe. Star Trek:TNG and Xena were born in syndicationThe later two had normal ~24 episodes per season, despite being syndicated, because they're only meant to be shown once a week. First run syndicated shows don't really need to have 50+ episodes, because they're being sold to the market per season. When a network show gets sold to syndiation, it's sold as a complete package and more popular shows could sell package updates, because they kept getting renewed by their network.
>>11736566Which depended 100% on FOX network coming into existence in 1985 because CBS, ABC, and NBC weren't going to show cartoons 5 days a week when there's soap operas and talk shows to run. Without FOX, daily syndicated cartoons never would have happened at all. >Spent all hsi money on cars and bitches.As should we all. >Silvestri is an image comic founder (with cyberforce, btw) who got famous from his xmen and wolverine runs.In the 1990s Image and Top Cow let artists and creators make more money than they would as employees of Marvel or DC, and did what Marvel and DC would never do with allowing them to keep ownership rights over their creations as Marvel and DC make you sign a piece of paper saying that anything you create while working for them (even stuff done on the side in your off-time) belongs to them 100%. As soon as Todd McFarlane crossed over from Marvel to Image to have mega-success with Spawn, it was essentially an "indie revolution."I miss that era. It was the last great era of comic books.
>>11736535fun note they also compounded the 44 Episodes of the DiC series with that. Scifi Channel in the late 90s ran all 144 episodes every weekday morning. It's the only reason I grew up with GIJoe was watching it every morning before school. Hasbro owns all the shows so they can distribute them as they please.
>>11736618There is an AI program that makes it possible to increase the framerate in videos. I really wish Hasbro would use it on their old cartoons because having a low framerate is how Sunbow shit out 80 hand-drawn episodes of GI Joe within 2 years. That's the only thing that bugs me about re-watching GI Joe and Transformers classic cartoons.
>>11736597in what podunk town do you live in, boy?We had 4 other broadcasting tv stations in my city, two of which later became UPN and WB, if i don't count the local PBS station.The 80s were booming for syndication thanks to more indie stations popping up. Nevermind that any of these other network broadcasters could also air syndicated stuff too, especially those that didn't have news running all afternoon.Syndication started to die when WB and UPN popped up btw, so fewer first run syndication series were created and timeslots started being filled with syndicated old shows. Thankfully, cable picked up the slack and censorship became less of an issue, buuuut action cartoons became less of a thing. So shit like Monster Force, Battletech, or Beast Wars weren't being created to shill toylines anymore... but that was fucking congress enforcing edumacation bullshit in the 90s>even stuff done on the side in your off-timeI think you're mixing up some Mattel stuff with Marvelcharacters like Nightcrawler and Storm were actually designed for the Legino of Superheroes DC comic book, but the artist used them for XMen instead.Pretty sure both Liefeld and McFarlane were working on their own books while also at Marvel too.personally, while i own a lot of 90s shit, it's not my favorite era. I actually liked the 00s most. I think the 90s was way too fucking commercial, but that's not exactly a bad thing. 00s > 80s > 90s > 10s > 70s > 20s.
>>11736624>We had 4 other broadcasting tv stations in my city, two of which later became UPN and WB, if i don't count the local PBS station.We had the "big three" (ABC, CBS, and NBC), PBS, and a couple of Mexican channels. In 1985 we got two new channels (KRRT and KMYS). KRRT carried FOX while the other one was basically a local channel showing syndicated re-runs of everything without any national affiliation until the late 80s when it became part of UPN then WB then CW. Some cartoons which were Saturday-morning-only on ABC/NBC/CBS (He-Man, Transformers, GI Joe) immediately jumped ship to FOX to become 5-days-a-week cartoons. It was a better deal for them because cartoons were infomercials to sell the toys, so it was more media saturation for the toy brands. The new FOX network was so desperate for new content that they gladly dedicated every weekday afternoon to nothing but cartoons. >00s > 80s > 90s > 10s > 70s > 20s.For real? 70s books are still awesome. 00s books were fine up until 9/11 when all the liberals came out of the woodwork against America, Superman renounced his American citizenship, the JLA attacked a fictional president who totally wasn't Bush for being a bigot who's not doing enough to import "peaceful" Muslims after 9/11, and all sorts of other bullshit. It only went downhill from there, and never recovered. Throw in convenience stores and other places no longer carrying them. The last comic book I remember walking into a convenience store and seeing is Darkness #11.
Hasbro, please.
>>11736692Hell yeah. Sadly the only way to get it is for fans to run to WalMart to buy three Big Lobs each to ensure the line stays available at your local Walmart, in which time Hasbro may possibly consider Chameleon on next year's list.
>>11736692Why not simply generate more images of her on your desk. Clearly you have more fun generating than posting pics of your actual figures. :^)
>>11736717He's showing what's possible. There's nothing wrong with that.
>>11736723>There's nothing wrong with thatThis is a board for toy photos not generated images of toys that might exist someday. This was discussed ages ago on previous threads.
>>11736725It wasn't discussed. It was you and others like you lynching people for posting such pics while being fully aware that it didn't actually break any rules here. But you're a bully, and you bully people who post things you don't like.
>>11736729NTA butt boo the fuck hoo you little crybaby bitch. Only you and a handful of retards care about your shitty AI generated bullshit. Post a real toy already, doesn't even have to be yours, or shut the fuck up you babyman.
>>11736734 Quick, link every toy you've posted in the thread.
>>11736741>show me which toys are yours so I can obsess over your background and sperg out at you whenever you post your toysNo thanks. No one has ever benefited from giving in to this demand.
>>11736734Show me where the rules were broken, and show me where it's off-topic to show renderings of toys. I'll wait.....................................can't find it? You're just bullies who feel the need to kick around people into obeying you even though you're not a rule-maker here at this site.
>>11736746Not AI generated toys, but TOYS!!Ass clown
>>11736748ALL images are intangible representations, bro. You can't reach through your screen and lay your hands on anything in a photo. It really makes no difference if an image is a cartoon, AI, or photo of something real; they all represent the same notion. And there is hypocricy in there because you never bitch about cartoon images that don't directly represent physical toys. One image that doesn't directly represent something tangible is OK, but another isn't. And even if there isn't any image, you still derail shit with pointless arguments, like baggy pants on aircraft crewmen.
>>11736725 >> Ages ago.Like about 2 months? get some perspective. Also Some of us don't mind seeing an occasional bit of Ai (or other artwork.) Maybe check out the He-man thread sometime and see the He Man / Sponge Bob (and Simpsons) pics
I see no problem with using AI art to show off a character you want, as long as you say what it is and don't try and trick people. No difference between using it or posting pictures from the cartoon, or no AI fakes, like the original rock viper. Its weird how one kind of picture can send some people into autistic rages while others dont.
>>11736750Toys toys toys. Not AI generated toys.
>>11736692>>11736723>>11736729>>11736746>>11736750>>11736755>>11736799You gotta go RasheedWe have had this conversation too many times and you always sperg out like this over nobody liking your AI Slop so you start derailing thread and shitting yourself while unironically saying shit like "we're bullying people" and cryingYou have to go back
>>11736828You do bully people. It's not against the rules but you don't like it, so you attack in order to train everyone else to only post what you approve of.
This is a 60 dollar toy.
>>11736834That's an alright price for a small and simple vehicle.
>>11736832>>11736832The only reason it isn't against the rules is because the /toy/ rules haven't been updated for 15 years. Every high traffic board on 4chan cuts you vermin off in a matter of weeks. I notice you stopped posting your junk during official announcements because you KNEW everyone in the thread would be livid at your fake shit. Mark your images with a AI label or GTFO.
>>11736828We have this strange situation where people post, have nobody agree with them or like what they post, and yet they keep posting instead of going somewhere else.Maybe theyre too stupid to find other places to annoy or theyre already banned from most sites
>>1173683428 dolla toy and 32 dolla swamp scoota
>>11736834It'll be on amazon. Crazy if you pay full price for it.
>>11736871The lack of self awareness in this post is off the charts.
watching retards seethe over AI usage while they phonepost inbetween checking their instagram and facebook and whatever other dumbass shit they have is honestly one of the most entertaining things I get to experience these days.
>>11736885>No True Scotsman Fallacy Nice bait, made me reply.
>>11736848I don't think so.
>>11736889No dumbass, it's not the scotsman fallacy, if you have an amazon sub, if you have a meta account with any of their various sites, if you have a smartphone of essentially any make or model made in the last 5 years, if you use any number of very common, almost ubiquitous programs for a variety of the most common industries in the world, you are using AI. If you're living off the grid in nature and not participating in any of that then by all means wax philosophical about AI usage, but given that you're posting here I'd say fat fucking chance. This is about as dumb as the faggots complaining over using plastic straws a few years ago.
Why did that guy say this guy was white >>11736879This post makes no sense, unless you mean the last part referring to posting here at all
>>11736861So that gives you the right to decide what the rules are? Not only are you a bully, you're also arrogant. >>11736889It looks good, but looks like something a dreadnok would have. >>11736872There'll be plenty of Zanya figures for sale by people liquidating them because they wanted a fleet of swamp skiers.
>>11736897I don't care that websites use AI backend bullshit. I don't need to commit my entire life to the ideology of "AI sucks" to rightfully tell people generating images to fuck off my board dedicated to discussion of collecting physical toys and taking pics of them.
>>11736898He looks like a tanned White guy to me. Not all Whites are pale, Rajesh.
>>11736834>kind of want slop scooter>don't want swamp thotim tired of these scams
>>11736900>completely ignores my last pointYou fucked off with your generated garbage for weeks because you KNEW moderators would've booted your ass if you posted your promo shot forgeries during the weeks leading up to and during official Hasbro announcements.
>>11736907Would you rather have a generic trooper with completely covered body so you can swap out the head for a White or Black one?
>>11736901it's an image board lmao, you don't get to say what kind of images get posted.
>>11736910I didn't ignore it. I'm just tired of bullies going on the attack every time someone posts a picture you don't like while you pretend that you're the rule-maker here. Just fuck off you miserable asshole, and take your baggy deck crew pants with you.
>>11736914If someone doesn't label an image with a tag that it's an AI mock up they deserve to be ridiculed. This isn't up for debate.
>>11736916>bullies >as in multiple people>then turns around and accused me of being the same guy who argued with people about muh comic booksWhich is it? Are there multiple bullies or is it all one person?
>>11736918oh but it is, in fact you have inspired me to start posting a ton of AI stuff just because of how much of an insufferable faggot you are.
>>11736916>I didn't ignore itOkay then answer the question. Why did you stop posting your AI images in the threads official announcements were rolling out? What stopped you?
>>11736911id rather the vehicle and thot be sold seperately
>>11736920>boasts he'll spam the threadOh so you'll break the rules when it suits you then? Spamming/flooding isn't allowed.
>>11736923>rules>on 4chanlmao
>>11736828 You seem to think that all of these posts are from one person. Maybe you need to chill. Maybe go outside or have a glass of water. Maybe you need to stay away from this group for a few days - or the internet as a whole.
>>11736901>> people generating images to fuck off my board I don't want to disappoint or concern you - but most certainly this is not "your board"
>>11736921>dodges the question, againAmazing. Plays victim yet refuses to claim he was bullied off these threads for six weeks. Probably because he wasn't bullied and is ashamed to admit the real reason.
>>11736903Youre outting yourself as the actual Indian here by both calling that guy tanned (maybe compared to you) and not using the name Apu like 90% of all 40 year old (GI Joe target demo) Americans would
>11736832There he is>>11736930>This post
>>11736898>Want cool Raptor>Weird ugly tribal "tactical" guyManMaybe somebody will make other parts I can part swap and make some Turok ass feel
>>11736898>>11736945I agree, this is such a fucking monkeys paw, the raptor is great and the helmet and handgun arent bad but the guy looks awful, one of the worst designs in the entire line.
>>11736898Cant wait to slap that masked head on a Desert Scorpion.
>>11736927I'm calling his bluff, retard>>11736928Everyone knows /toy/ doesn't have jannies you dumb double nigger.
>>11736949bluff?
>>11736921Because I had my fun posting possibilities of country girl Baroness . I don't have a problem posting more. Want more? >>11736949No shit, which is why when they show up to ban someone here, they don't follow conversations to see if a ban is warranted, so they'll just delete your last 20 posts while hoping something among them was ban-worthy>>11736922I agree 100%. It would be cheaper, and it'll make it easier for people who want multiple vehicles for multiple figures.
>>11736960You convinced Hasbro to make a toy of you? Based.
>>11736799I did this in PS along with Evy. It's why it's more authentic.
>>11736942Rajesh comes from Big Bang Theory, the show starring Penny's nipples. Some of us know that.
>>11736961>admits jannies came out of their cave to "ruin his fun" meaning his stupid "muh not against rules" still doesn't stop jannies from deleting his posts>still doesn't explain why he stopped posting for six whole weeksThis whole chain started because of a repost. The AI slop of Baroness's blond sister is a REPOST of something you posted over a month ago.
>>11736966I didn't post either. Someone else did. I think it looks good, and shows what Chameleon could look like. And is she still Baroness's sister? Last I heard Chameleon was retooled to be the replacement after some ass decided that Baroness should be a Joe.
>>11736969>I think it looks goodIrrelevant. It's a fake promo image of fake figure that doesn't exist. It's worthless and doesn't deserve to eat up the image limit. Make a containment thread for all AI generated toy images.
>>11736975Nope. If it's topic-relevant then it's not a problem.
>>11736975No I won't be doing this and I will be posting way more AI now literally because of you, and because I can. Eat a bullet you faggot.
>>11736943I'm not sure what you are trying to say here. Perhaps you could elucidate - using words.
>>11736975 I think you might be investing a little bit too much of yourself into this Champ. You might not be dying on this particular hill but you've at least taken an arrow to the knee.
>>11736980>fake pictures of toys that don't exist is topic relevant Never.>>11736982Yeah, keep outing yourself. Better than trying to slip your forgeries in unnoticed.
>>11736980It's not topic relevantIt's spam, off topic because it doesn't exist , absurdly low quality shit and it's trollingYou know what you're doing
Found Mole Rat Stage 2 today, his small blaster has a hole in the back but nothing appears to peg into it. Any ideas?
>>11737038I believe you can pull the drill off and plug the guns together?
>>11736861I think AI images can be fine, but that anon just wants to flood the board with AIslop because he he's a poorfag. He probably owns like 3 GI Joes and no shelves, so he's ashamed of even making original content.>>11736675>the late 80s when it became part of UPN then WBmust be weird to live in an area where you could only have one at a time and still not have a indie station. And WB and UPN both launched in 1995.Suffice to say, you were lacking in cartoons if you had that few tv stations, since there were so many cartoons still in syndication throughout the 80s and 90s and networks had their own cartoons too. i bet you didnt even watch Spiral Zone, because even this one was rare for me to see, despite having a 65 episode season 1. Also, the fact that you had so few indie stations maybe why you associate syndication as just reruns. As a kid, i was able to figure out that syndication was different from network tv because new episodes on syndication would sometimes run in the mid-afternoons instead of starting at 8pm. For new seasons of cartoons, network cartoons were on Saturday mornings. Whereas new syndicated cartoon seasons were either on Sundays or weekday mornings/afternoons. Network cartoon blocks didn't start until the 90s (Disney Afternoon wasn't network, btw).>70s books are still awesome. They're fine. They actually list, unlike the dreck from the 60s and before. practically unreadable, though the purely comedic one can be good.Also, they way you list off the years and channels makes me think you're reading it straight off a wiki, so you probably weren't alive in the 80s or too young to remember them. Likely too young, since you like the 90s too much.
>>11736889I hate that Acid Rain suddenly decides to go 1:12 and even makes a properly scaled vehicle for their new venture....and it turns out to be the most bog standard, boring, overused dune buggy design that they haven't even bothered using in their 1:18 offerings. Like, I get that they wanted to do some sort of traditional 4x4 thing, but I wish they at least TRIED to get creative with it. It looks cool and all, but that mostly comes down to the deco, the buggy itself is boring. >>11736898Only thing I don't like about this guy is the tribal markings on his face. To me that says more, wild out doors hunter then mad genetic scientist. I'll be using the mask face on this guy and probably will have him be just another Viper specialist.>>11736799Honestly, I hate AI "art" in general, but I have no problem with it being used to show off a single "what if" kind of release. It's as you said, no different from photoshop of stuff like the Rock Viper or Girl Range Viper. I mean, it's certainly WORSE then actual photoshop fan art, and that pic of Chamelon proves it (the pic that anon shared is just atrocious), but as fan art, it don't have to be perfect to get the idea across. The problem comes when the shit head starts spamming his awful pics non stop like anyone else actually cares to see em. If someone were to do that with their shitty hand made fanart people would run them out of town too. But the fact that AI shit isn't even art and dozens of slight variations of that trash will come from a single prompt means it's super easy for any shithead to spam em despite no one caring about their awful fantasy fetish stuff. >>11736897I don't use facebook, twitter, instagram or any of those other shit sites. I refuse to use Alexa or Google Dot or whatever other "smart home" shit designed to spy on you. I also don't own a smart phone. Does that mean I can bitch about AI spam in these threads?>>11737038Find yourself a hose and go to town?
>>11736947Just swap and bin the head. There's a reason they pack in two.
>>11737080i hate that Acid Rain goes 1:12 and the 6" figures are cheaper than the 4" ones.
What kind of dumbass vehicle is this? Why are the footrest so far back? Why is she planking and resting on her vagoo?
>>11737080 I wouldn't mind seeing someone attempt to make a baroness in the Renegades Battle Armor as a figure. Ai or otherwise. It doesn't get enough screen time - but neither did the series.
>>11737108I mean....it's always been a silly vehicle. It's a rocket on skies that flies through the swamps.
>>11737123Renegades was the best prequel to a show that didn't exist ever made. I'm still disappointed the show never got a follow up season, as it certainly deserved it but everything around it just imploded.
>>11737064It works! I looked over the promotional photos trying to figure it out but didn't see anything about this. Thanks, GI Bro.
>>11736969Worse... As is usual for Kirkman Hasbroverse, Chameleon is now the sweet ditzy broad from "The Girl Who Loves Powerglider", turned into a grim dark assassin/psychopath because Kirkman hates GI Joe fans for getting his BFF Aubrey Sitterson blackballed.
This is so JOEver. I don't really have personal connection to GI Joe franchise but I used to pick up a couple figures that went on sale for 10-12.99 on Amazon, sometimes to do custom or them or just have them as cool random figures. I have been eyeing on the firefighter and police for a while, and I notice that Hasbro stuff other than Star Wars Black Series for flop Disney TV Show like Acolyte doesn't go on discount anymore. Everything except 2-3 binners are MSRP, and new figures are $27.99 + tax.
Thinking of going back to chopping up fodders and making customs. Any recs on the fodder to make pic related? I'm thinking of starting with Fennec Shand Black Series, kitbashing some torso and legs so she's not a manlet. The only eyepatch female head I know of is Marvel Legends Callipso, whom I had in a bin somewhere, but I'll need a hairpiece
>>11737146 I was reluctant to like it at first and I just can't Sigma-6. But it drew me in. that was the time of great lst designs like zombie Cobra Commander. and the Cobra bang-bus. At least we got zombies.
>>11737108since you're either a millenial or zoomer, you've grown up in a world where all the edges have been smoothed out and cushioned for your safety.So everything you known is made for pussies and have a pussy mindset.Back in the 80s and before, they used to experiment with a shit ton of designs and the most futuristic is what you're criticizing, because safety regulations weren't all that strict before and they didn't care to think about what would happen if you crashed in that position, because who cares if its a super fun way to drive.the fact she's even wearing a helmet is hilarious. i bet she doesn't drink or smoke either, and can correctly name all 84 genders.
>>11737226 She'll also give you a handy for a dozen chocolate covered doughnuts and a grape soda.
>>11737226You didn't really answer his question subby.
>>11737309very few people know the names of all the experimental and concept shit that GI Joe stole their designs fromAnd google is fucking awful now, so i can't find shit and could barely find that motorcycle with the backside pedals. almost every image it shows me now are AI images or motorcycles being sold from a single website.Nevermind the internet is almost dead. There used to be a dozen geocities/tripod/aol member sites that had profiles for dozens of GI Joe vehicles/weapons and what they were based on. There's nothing like that today. And i remember some motornut actually featuring what the Chameleon was based on on his website, which is either long gone or google no longer indexes it like thousands of other websites (or it's past the 20 pages they show you now).pic is what the GI Joe mauler is based from. I actually kknow this one, because it's kewl.>>11737270would she? She was actually pretty punk and hated the other dreadknoks.
>>11737329So, why did you reply to him if you didn't know? Why are you writing a fucking short essay just to tell me you don't know? You're the kind of guy who likes the sound of his own voice huh?
>>11737178You could have bought Zarana for $5 at Ollie's last year. It's a good figure overall, but the face killed the sales.
>>11737330I explained to a zoomer all the concepts he thinks are dumb are a result of his growing up in a padded playground. Revolutionary concepts are dangerous.I'd swear you were a zoomer too, but are likely a tail end millienial since you're freaking out anyone outside of AI can write longer than a twitter post and seem to believe everyone needs to be nice to you, becasue you watched too much barney shit.You mad your mommy can't make me not say mean shit to you, faggot?
>>11737340Nah bro, I just think it's weird you wrote all that out just to not answer his question.
>>11737342Don't understando ingles, friendo?I didn't answer his frist question, but i did answer his other ones. The revoltuionary concepts it uses makes it fun to drive around.
>>11737348I can understand just fine. You're the one writing character limit long posts that essentially amount to you saying you don't know. Fucking weirdo.
>>11737151Yeah, they featured it in the original Mole Rat pics, but not the Stage 2's.
>>11737206Snake Eyes Origins Scarlett is a good place to start, and it's a cheap figure
>>11737329>very few people know the names of all the experimental and concept shit that GI Joe stole their designs fromThen why were you pretending you knew?
>>11737329>Nevermind the internet is almost dead. There used to be a dozen geocities/tripod/aol member sites that had profiles for dozens of GI Joe vehicles/weapons and what they were based on. There's nothing like that today.That's because the comments section of Youtube, Tiktok, Facebook, and other social media sites have taken over discussion forums. It's still all out there. It's just in a different form. >>11736963>>11736960After Cold Slither, retro-card Cover Girl, and the Snowcat HASLAB, I 100% honestly want more cartoon-derived stuff in Classified form. Yeah I know that's the emphasis for the R+ line, but that's a different scale. I have a couple from that line too, but in a Classified line would be great as well.>>11737108You ride it the same way you ride a "cafe" motorcycle with leaning forward with feet back.
>>11737206
Now this is more like it! Hope we get a whole raptor squad.
>>11736834>>11737108those abs, though...
>>11737446I want a Cobra paranormal squad, and want it to NOT be Walmart-exclusive.
>>11737446Helmets are a little samey, but I like the color palette the figure has.
>>11737426>>11737446Fuck off.
>>11737480nah. And just so you're aware I literally have never posted in the gijoe thread until yesterday but now I will be posting multiple AI photos every day. All because of you.
>>11737480>Captain Picard became an SASCool story, bra. I'd rather have "eau de cobra" Baroness.
>>11737506kys
>>11737502>but now I will be posting multiple AI photos every dayYou have said this for several posts now. You were going to do it regardless because you expected praise or at least a "wow I didn't know it was AI!" which would embolden you to spam the thread with your garbage.>>11737506>I can't have a sexy Baroness like the Rattler one so I'll generate my own virtually!Pathetic
>>11737539Look up model-making supplies. Get a matte or flat clearcoat for that figure so it doesn't look so "plastic." It's clear and not paint, so it doesn't alter any colors. It goes on easy and makes a world of difference.
>>11737502interesting choice to admit to spamming and plans to continue spamming
>>11737546Post a pic of your GI Joe or Cobra you matte painted. Otherwise don't tell me what to do.
>>11737607The hands and chest have different textures than the arms do. The right clearcoat will even that out. If you don't want to then don't. I don't care. I was just giving you useful info. And for the record I do have Rattler Baroness. The past time I posted her pic was here:>>11727920
>>11737618Why would you link to another thread? Just post a picture of her.
>>11737631I already did. And I linked it from last time instead of redundantly re-upping the same pic because there's no difference in doing so. You're just nit-picking.
>>11737632Why not post a NEW picture of this figure you claim you own?
>>11737636Stop being a nitpicky dork
>>11737642Stop telling people to paint their stuff and pretending to own a figure you clearly don't.
>>11737636Because there's no point. You brought it up out of fucking nowhere when I was commenting on how to even put the varied skin texture on that figure as a completely irrelevant point to both that one and the eau de Cobra Baroness.
>>11737644I don't display my shit and kept it put away so fuck you for making me dig through bins to find it. Here you go. I don't get why you brought her up. I never asked you or anyone about what you have because I don't care.
>>11736530This is accurate for how syndication worked in general, but with GI Joe and Transformers you have the added situation of it being Hasbro funding those cartoons, and by 1987-ish, Hasbro wanting to put their money into funding shows for their newer lines.There'd presumably be an upper limit to how much Sunbow was capable of producing, so producing a full 4th season of Transformers and 3rd season of GI Joe in addition to the new shows wouldn't have been viable, even if both were still pulling in big audiences. It's a similar situation to what happened earlier in the 80s with Mattel funding the Masters of the Universe cartoon and cancelling it after two seasons to do She-Ra instead. They already had enough episodes for syndication to keep advertising that toy line, and wanted to promote a newer brand, and it was fairly rare for any toy line in the 80s to survive much longer than any of those brands had survived by the time their cartoons ended, nobody back then really knew how long they'd endure.The idea that's been suggested here that the GI Joe cartoon got cancelled from television because of a direct to video movie underperforming just doesn't sound realistic at all. Considering that movie was originally intended for cinematic release but then had to try and break even on video sales alone, it would likely have ended up underperforming even if it was a more conventional GI Joe story that was more palatable to the fans who hate it.
>>11737426>That's because the comments section of Youtube, Tiktok, Facebook, and other social media sites have taken over discussion forums... do you not know what geocities or tripod is? You fucking zoomers don't know anythingThey were mostly fansites that produced content like yojoe or generalsjoes does, where they had informative articles or geek outs with pictures about various toys.And i was specifically talking about how some of them would show the real world inspirations for the GI Joe vehicles and weapons>>11737760>by 1987-ish, Hasbro wanting to put their money into funding shows for their newer linesIt's a lot of first run syndication's hope that they'll be picked up by networks though. Syndication is usually a last resort. In 1985, Fox was a major hope, since they were new and establishing themselves. This is part of why so many more first run syndication shows got created, either because they failed to get picked up or wanting to prove themselves to get picked up later.Using a cheaper studio is actually a way to justify getting picked up. Yeah, Hasbro funded shit themselves, but it's always better to have a network to do all the heavy lifting for you. So just because Hasbro ended up doing everything them selves doesn't mean there werent behind the scenes planning, because all the signs are there: multiple miniseries (pilots) and then the studio switch>GI Joe cartoon got cancelled from television because of a direct to video movie underperforming just doesn't sound realisticoh, i agree, but Hasbro expected GI Joe to become MORE popular afterward. They splurged on making a MOVIE. They wanted to gain popularity and hopefully get out of syndication so a network can help fund them. Obviously, it wasn't worth it to keep going, hence canceling the show and retooling it with another studio laterEvery company wants to have the next Mickey Mouse or TMNT, that has constant media to help sell merch. 2 seasons isn't a goal, it's minimization
>>11733069>They just had to put a dude in his place over strong womyn, didn't they?that's sort of the point of having a strong woman character in a male dominated franchise. if scarlett couldnt kick a man's ass, what's the point of her? if jinx wasnt a deadly ninja, she wouldnt be shit. if zanya didnt look so tough and capable among men she wouldnt be a threat
>>11737867>do you not know what geocities or tripod is? You fucking zoomers don't know anythingI don't know why you seethe at zoomers so much for not knowing shit like that. You are screeching at them for not knowing unimportant bullshit from before they were born. It's like a silent generation old-timer getting mad at boomer kids for not knowing the lyrics to Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy, or how to crank start a T-model Ford. They don't know it because it's fucking dead and irrelevant.I know late Gen X guys that had forgotten what it was like to navigate Angelfire websites via web rings before Google search was introduced. Even I had completely forgotten about Tripod until you mentioned it. Not everyone is as terminally online as you.
>>11737992>navigate Angelfire websites via web rings before Google search was introducedyoure just purposely getting things wrong for (You)s huh? How lonely are you?Point is, if you don't know what's being talked about and want to pitch in your ignorant two cents, either be ready to accept being called a retard or stfu. If you want to people to be nicer to you, go to hugbox.REMEMBER HUGBOX? Man, it's been like over a decade since i remembered it and it's been even longer since faggots like yourself got told to go there by 4chan.Everything you do seems just for attention. Posting AI images and this shit. You don't seem to know anything about GI Joe and probably own as many figures as Yusuf does.
>>11738001NTA but I was around for all that shit and I haven't thought about it in like twenty years. You really need to move on from like 30 years ago dude. He's right. Shit is irrelevant nowadays and you're like the old man screaming at clouds at this point. Chill.
>>11737867I know them and their scumware-backed pop-ups well. Adblock was invented for those kinds of sites with scumware ads. Forums are still around, but most of it is on the big social media sites. It's true. Deal with it.
>>11737760Both GI Joe and G1 Transformers cartoons were still on the air up until around 3 years ago on Discovery Family. They didn't get cancelled until the channel decided it needed more Rescue Bots and gay My Little Pony cartoons. There's a channel called METV Toons that shows classic cartoons I think also includes He-man but that channel isn't available on cable or rabbit ears in my TV market.
>>11738001>youre just purposely getting things wrongDo you not remember webrings? Lolololol. You must be a millennial or you were too poor to afford the internet in your third world country in the mid 90s.As for AI images, I can honestly say I wouldn't know which AI to use to do that, and I don't care. Not my thing, but I'm not going to seethe about someone doing AI mockups like a fucking boomer that's mad because MASH is finally finished.Get over yourself retard. Nobody thinks you are special because you remember shitty websites from two decades ago. You sound like Comic book Guy from The Simpsons, only even more of a caricature.
>>11738066I remember webrings. I also remember that there were search engines before Google. Both Yahoo and Alta Vista had search engines, as did Netscape and AOL on their front pages. And unlike now they weren't filtered to have paid links first nor did they filter out and block any links certain types were offended by. They sure as shit didn't have AI and government monitoring to record what sites everyone goes to. Now everything's blanket-recorded, and if you ever were to be a problem to the wrong people, then it'll suddenly come up that you once searched for images of Captain Kirk's nipples or whatever other weird shit. It's all leverage, and stuff people said like a decade earlier has popped up to take them down later on. Remember that guy who was set to host the Oscars before people took him down with something he said years earlier on the Internet?
>>11738075Oh yeah well I remember back when we used Dogpile and Yahoo was called Yahooligans. Guess what? No one fucking cares. Just because you grew up in the 90s doesn't make you special bro. It's really fucking weird how you treat these absolutely mundane things as like some sort of life achievement.
>>11738077Employers now want your social media accounts to monitor you in your off-time. People have gotten fired for saying the wrong thing in their own time that wasn't about their employer in any way. That's especially true for leftist employers who don't want people who are not part of their collective working for them. We didn't have that problem back then. Enjoy your "freedom," bro.
>>11737916There's one episode of the cartoon where Zandar tries infiltrating Joe HQ only to get chased out under gunfire, then Zarana effortlessly gets in. So yeah they did do a bit of "girl power" stuff in the cartoon.
>>11738066 >>11738077>zoomer badly pretending to know shit from before he was bornStop talking about shit you know nothing about, zoomer.As the other guy said, other search engines existed before google and webrings weren't even popular back then, because there were very few places to even visit until geocities made shit free, and even then, you had like 1mb of space. Barely enough for a midi and two images. Angelfire was basically unknown until it became free and that was after google existed.The vast majority of websites back then basically just had addresses so you can send PHYSICAL mail to subscribe to their PHYSICAL newsletters and magazines.Services like GENie, Prodigy and AOL were much better for geeky shit, since they offered chat rooms, games, message boards, and a wealth of video/image/audio files. FREE... well, 15¢ per minute or whatever the going rate they were charging you since they were the ISP. AOL offering unlimited internet is when the internet actually became populated and filled with shit to do.So all those GI Joe sites i was talking about weren't really around until afterward (1998+). Places like yojoe.com was pretty much a newsletter back then too, so it was almost all text. And it's sad that nothing has replaced these old sites that have disappeared, so people are more ingnorant now than they were in the 90s and 00s.Society has gone backwards>>11738049>didn't know how to turn scripts offI'm sure you made them a ton of money and pissed off your parents with all the viruses you got
>>11738135>Society has gone backwardsIt's all about monitoring and control now. The internet is just not the free wild frontier it used to be. You can thank Obama's NSA for that. >I'm sure you made them a ton of money and pissed off your parents with all the viruses you gotActually no. I knew how to use the task manager to see what programs were running, and to kill the ones that aren't supposed to be there. For "uninvited programs" aka scumware embedded in ads that self-installed, I knew where in my PC to find where they would embed their files for me to delete. Adblock was originally created not to block the ads, but to block the scumware embedded within them. And sites like Angelfire and geoshitties had lots of scumware-loaded ads in them.
>>11738135>it's sad that nothing has replaced these old sites that have disappearedhttps://www.3djoes.com/They took over after YoJoe owners back-stabbed all of their users and sold everything to a data-harvesting company. Of course like many sites 3DJoes uses Facebook (which is one of the biggest data-harvesters which is how Zuckerberg made billions off of free Facebook) as their forums now.
>>11738084I don't use social media nor would I post my opinions on it. This need to over share your garbage opinions with the entire world is stupid. People should get fired for saying stupid shit. >>11738135>Everyone who thinks my self importance is stupid is a zoomerOr a third worlder right? Get some new material already you sped.
>>11738181>I don't use social media nor would I post my opinions on itSmart man. Employers still regulate their employee off-time activities, though.>This need to over share your garbage opinions with the entire world is stupid. You'll really hate the retardation found on tiktok.
>>11738135Also, you listing all these services that were around back then doesn't make you special. I'm closer to forty than thirty and was around for all that shit too but I'm not clinging to some thirty year old website like my life depends on it. Being alive in 2000s doesn't make you special subjectanon. Stop treating these absolutely mundane things as some sort of achievement that you can 1up someone with. It's super gay and makes you come off as a goober. The guy earlier who said you're Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons but worse was spot on. It's like you modeled your entire persona off that one guy.
>>11737446whats the story on this? release date etc?
>>11738147just stopping scripts would have helped you for 99% of all problems. I'm glad I ws a macfag during the worst of the internet's malicious websites.>>11738153I know about it and it's piss weak, considering it basically stops when the 80s line ends. It's not even a quarter of a replacement yojoe.com and other sites like it, because of how little they actually cover.There used to be another Joe site that had high res images and had posed/geared up photographs before yojoe did, but it's been gone so long i don't even remember its name anymore. IT stopped updating somewhere around the time the 25th ended and the movie toys were coming, and then the site was gone a couple of months later.The internet is less useful now that it was in the 90s.>>11738181Are you admitting you're the third worlder who owns 4 GI Joes who was saying smithsonian documentaries are wrong, ontop of being the AI image spammer?you love shitting this board up over anything and everything, huh?
>>11738213>Are you admitting you're the third worlder who owns 4 GI Joes who was saying smithsonian documentaries are wrong, ontop of being the AI image spammer?No, I live in one of the top 5 most populated cities in the United States. Also, I'm not the AI poster, in fact, I'm one of the ones who shits on him. You can't even keep track of who you're raging at. Chill your nuts.>you love shitting this board up over anything and everything, huh?First of all, who do you think I am? Second of all, it's not my fault that you look like an absolute loser for making it seem like using fucking geocities and aol chatrooms of all things makes you some kind of tech savvy person when my parents were using that shit lmao. Were you even on IRC back in the day? That's where all the cool kids actually hung out.
>>11738205It's not real. An AI generated image. That's why the one reply is telling the poster to fuck off.
>>11738231>old man reminiscing about the good old days when entire websites were forums dedicated to one subject matter>GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE FAGGOTWhere does such bitterness come from?
>>11738273I'm not the one who's making it out to be a high horse thing, he is. It's weird.
>>11738205>>11738269I imagine they will be doing the Paleo-Viper mentioned in the Rotclaw blurb, however.
>>11737867I remember Joe a Day. lots of good fansites back in the day
>>11738515They already did, it's the alt head he came with. He's his own army builder, you get a squad of troopers AND a pack of raptors.>>11738328He's doing it for attention and to ruin threads. Ignore him, it's better for your health.
>>11738530Deinonychus. A velociraptor was actually the size of a turkey.
>>11738557Holy kino
>>11738557I really liked that 1997 15th anniversary Scarlett. Gung Ho was another gem in that series.
What's the best bet for an O Ring Dr Mindbender?
>>11738572OG 86 Minbender has a cloth cape and cool accessories but Joe vs Cobra Mindbender has a better scuplt and comes packed with an equally cool Beachhead figure
>>11738557poor RB has no machine gun LOL!
>>11737329>And i remember some motornut actually featuring what the Chameleon was based on on his website, which is either long gone or google no longer indexes it like thousands of other websites The Chameleon was (very loosely) inspired by the WetBike, as seen in the James Bond movie 'The Spy who Loved Me'. The Classified version looks to be more closely inspired by the original vehicle than the ARAH version was.
>>11738521I vaguely remember Joe a Day.UGOLINO was probably my favorite fansite. Guy had fantastic write ups about lesser known figures and how each figure fit in his collection, along with their stories. All his old shit disappeared for like a decade, but he started it back up and is better known as Mike's Forgotten Figures.Filex DeCobray was another of my favorites, along with Cobra Emporium. I think pic is from the Cobra Command fansite, who has the best storytelling in diorama form. There were quite a few funny sites as well that i backed up, but they're forgotten somewhere on an older computer or/and a disc somewhere. Anyone remember the Cobra Starter Manual/Pack?Thanks to cancel culture, most of these guys deleted their shit from archive.org. It's insane how many people are afraid of getting canceled or want to play along to fit in.>>11738231>You can't even keep track of who you're raging at.So this isn't your post? >>11737426IF you're responding to my responses to him and acting like a zoomer, you can't blame me for thinking that's you.> my parents were using that shit lmao.your zoominess is showing. You don't know shit about what the internet was like by then. Everything was so damn small back then, so i can't even brag about the people i talked to for years without outting myself. And of course i used IRC. It's how you were able to get mp3s without doing exchanges/credits/bounties on ftps, because before napster hosting any sort of files was crazy expensive.
>>11738617The cowgirl Baroness post was me. And I wasn't joking when I said I want one. But Hasbro would never make something like that even if it made them money.
>>11738617>So this isn't your post? >>11737426It isn't. >IF you're responding to my responses to him and acting like a zoomerBitch you're pushing fucking 50 at this point. Everyone is a zoomer to you. I'm in my late 30s if it makes you feel better. >your zoominess is showing. You don't know shit about what the internet was like by then. Everything was so damn small back then, so i can't even brag about the people i talked to for years without outting myself. The mental gymnastics you do to justify why you think someone is wrong is really weird bruh. >And of course i used IRC. It's how you were able to get mp3s without doing exchanges/credits/bounties on ftps, because before napster hosting any sort of files was crazy expensive.I genuinely don't believe you. The things you talk about, the things you claim, it all comes off as third hand. Like someone read somewhere that that's what Americans in the 90s did so you regurgitate it. It's become clear after years of posting how artificial you're whole backstory feels. You really are a walking cartoon character. But go ahead, call me a zoomer, call me a third worlder, accuse me of being a JoyToy employee, pretend you know about computers, and beg for me to post a wall socket. It won't matter. You'll still be wrong. Every single time.
>>11738617>because before napster hosting any sort of files was crazy expensive.Before file-sharing sites, FTP and IRC allowed you to share files direct one-on-one. It was only a problem is you had internet that's like 56k or less, there's large files, and you have an internet service plan that limited how many bminutes you got per month (which was the norm back then).
>>11738893New one's up now that we're crossing into auto-saging territory.
>>11738858>yes I'm arguing on behalf of the AI spammer but I'm totally a different person now despite saying the same shit as him>coincidently he hasn't posted since i've take over until i got accused of being himobvious samefagging is obvious>I genuinely don't believe you.Because you're a dumbshit zoomer who wasn't on the internet in the 90s, probably because you're also the third worlder. So if you're thirty, your country not getting the internet until 2019 like the rest of India would explain why you have no knowledge about shit back then.Anyone who was around back then would instantly recognize what I said was going on in the background and everyday life shit, like how people used to get mp3s back in the day, whereas you're only repeating the popular memes like IRC, without understanding who actually used it. Actual oldfags responded to my talking about old fansites, adding real knowledge about their favorite fansite or the wetbike, instead of vague contrarian arguments like you (just like yusuf does)>>11738882yep, file hosting was too fuckign expensive and i actually got cable internet in 1998, hence using pre-limewire programs like hotline to get more shit.
>>11738973Lmao. You did exactly what I thought you would. Minus accusing me of being a JoyToy employee. Thanks for proving my point you stupid fuck.
>>11738600or the ending chase of Police Academy 3.Been forever, but I think it was Michael Winslow that was riding it.
>>11738075I miss Yahoo webrings for fan/personal websites as they were well curated to help you find websites that were good and informative.
>>11739001>I'm not samefagging because i said you would accuse me of samefagging after i already got accused of being samefag, thus you're wrong.amazing logic, yusuf.Post 2 cobra and 2 Joe figures next to an electrical socket to prove you're not who i accused you of being.Anyone know if the AI spammer has even posted his toys before? I've accused him of being a poorfag, but I don't actually remember him posting anything nor do i associate anything with him. I know the third worlder has a crimson set and a bunch of warhammer figures, since he's from the wH40k thread.>>11739132anime turn pike (site still exists: WOW! nothing works: oof) was the only organized effort i likedEverything else was noise, because they were just too big.I'd rather click on the LINKS section of my favorite fansite and see what he recommends, instead of some random site with three gifs and a midi blaring.
>>11738617Do you happen to have Checkpoint Alpha backed up? I had a dio hosted there but it was lost.
>>11739392ooof, now that was a pretty good one, but no.after the dotcom bubble burst, i thought everything that survived was going to last forever, especially since hosting images became incredibly cheap. There were even fansites who splurged on hosting videos.Nevermind the waybackmachine was there just in case there was a catastrophic error.I only saved a few images from my favorite sites, because who knew the internet was only going to last 20 years and most people would turn into karens in 25 years.The only thing i regularly backed up were chat and message logs, which make me incredibly depressed everytime the few times i have the guts to read one. The world turned to shit so suddenly and a lot of people i used to talk to are unrecognizable.
>>11739359Do you get off to electrical sockets or something. You make this demand of people all the time. It's really weird. But hey if you kys by putting your dick in a wall outlet, be sure to tell us so we can laugh.
>>11739414>hosting images became incredibly cheap.Lol, Snapfish suddenly started emailing a lot late last year. Used them to host images back in the forum days.
building a bar for the Dreadnoks.
>>11739414They had the first issue, maybe the first two of my dio https://returntothekillingfields.blogspot.com/
>>11739654>https://returntothekillingfields.blogspot.com/LOL, that's fucking meticulous. I miss how the GI Joe fandom had tons and tons of these diorama stories and comics. It's incredibly rare to see these sorts of dioramas made for other toylines. Transformers, XMen, TMNT, and other long lasting toylines...I've seen maybe a dozen altogether that wasn't shown at a convention or professionally done for a book/magazine/adAlso, this comic was after my time. I pretty much stopped going to fansites after the ones i went to died. so I was only regularly going to them until 2008.>>11739561I always find it funny how you're so quick to argue with me, writing up paragraphs and paragraphs for days to try and contradict me, but as soon as you need to provide any actual proof, you shut down.You can instantly prove everything you say about me it: that I'm schizo for even thinking that the AI spammer and the third worlder are samefag (you) but no, you can't do that So you are the AI spammer (and are likely the third worlder too) and you're too poor to even make an attempt to half ass it by using an American style power strip
>>11739637Needs grape soda.
>>11739828>I always find it funny how you're so quick to argue with me, writing up paragraphs and paragraphs for days to try and contradict me, but as soon as you need to provide any actual proof, you shut down.Pot calling the kettle black right here lmao
>>11739828thanks man. my brother and I worked hard on it. had years of story planned out and then he suddenly didnt want to do it anymore. I was the plotter and he helped with dialogue and sets, but he got married and kept most of the stuff in his attic. now I have a lot of figures with no sets or vehicles. on top of that we have had a falling out since he wants the house I stay in sold so he can get half of it, and before that he wrote me out of my mom's will, so we arent speaking these days. the chances of us doing anymore became slim. I miss the old days of dios and people posting pictures of their Joes in the wild.
>>11737480That AI Baroness is a better looking figure than the one you posted.
>>11739967ooof, i read about you being written out of the will on some other board. getting married makes a man do some dumb shit. It's why so many of my childhood friends became friendless. Pretty fucking tragic, but that's bitches for you. It's why i'm unmarried, because i like to push back or just cut girls out when i see them trying to be manipulative/controlling.Anyway, seeing how most of your shit being store bought makes me realize how cheap shit used to be. I try and price everything you have, because i wonder where you got it, and shit would cost a fortune today.I always thought more people would do their own diostories or comics like this, because internet hosting became pratically free and smartphones has made posting stuff online almost instant. But it's a lot harder than it looks. I've attempted diostories, where every angle from a single diorama will tell a different story, and it can take an entire day just to get a crappy version done.So something like this, requires a lot of work. So i admire the effort you put into it. Something like pic can seem so simple, yet i understand the planning that went into it.seeing this stuff makes me want to clean up my yard to do more again.
>>11740104thank you, yeah that was me on the other board. probably /co/ as I still read comics from time to time. lolyeah its actually simple to get in to dios, pictures, or just setting up your figs. its a shame less people do it now than before because there are less photos these days. less customs too. it makes the community feel more stagnant. hell, we can even print our own vehicles and figures and these customs arent posted much.
>>11740104>Pretty fucking tragic, but that's bitches for you. It's why i'm unmarried, because i like to push back or just cut girls out when i see them trying to be manipulative/controlling.That's not why you're unmarried subjectanon. It's because your personality is so actually shit that people would rather die than be with you.
>>11740155he seems alright. you, more akin to a heaping pile of shit.
>>11740213>Defending subjectanon How new are you?
>>11733017>but they're saying it'll be over $90lmao retard
>>11736692Badass! When is this coming???
>>11736692AI could save Hasbro if they listened to fans.
>>11740683Save Hasbro from Gi Joe Classified being one of their best selling lines? Yeah it could really run shit into the ground and turn it into a flaming wreck if they went all in on it I guess. Fortunately that's not going to happen and imagination-less cunts like you will continue to be sidelined and relegated to using computers to do their soulless thinking for them far away from positions of influence
>>11740895AI is a good visualizer tool if you limit it to that purpose. If you're actually taking in what a lot of the complaints against it, that's why a few people here hate it. It shows the intangible in a form that's not real enough for them to aquire but real enough to be able to see what it would look like. And I still personally believe what I said a couple of GI Joe generals back with the toy industry really opening up once AI is able to produce something that can be sent to a 3D-printer. When you look how far AI came in just two years, I don't think we're far away from that. Ebay will be filled with custom figures that the toy-makers themselves will never ever produce even moreso than now.
>>11740967Did your boyfriend Claude write that for you?
>>11740895>one of their best selling lines>not sold in every walmart since 2022>targets also stopped carrying it in every store>years of showing up at Ross at 70-90% off>currently has 15% of the shelf space it had when it relaunched 6 years ago, before the movie waves came outooofSo how badly is Hasbro doing if GI Joe is one of their best sellers?
>>11741044>targets also stopped carrying it in every storeNot in my city. Quite the opposite Target is more reliable for me finding them "in the wild" than WalMart is.>years of showing up at Ross at 70-90% offRoss and Ollie's raised the prices. They used to sell the Classified stuff for $5 each, but scalpers fucked that up for the rest of us. When they realized that scalpers were hoarding up everything then flipping it for $15 on up to $30 each, they raised their prices to get a bigger piece of the pie. >So how badly is Hasbro doing if GI Joe is one of their best sellers?The blame falls on both WalMart and Hasbro. Hasbro produces a wave of four with one gem in it that sells quickly, one OK figure that doesn't sell as fast but does sell out, and a couple of mediocre choices that don't sell at all,, the store gets stuck with unsellables. OR in the other scenario Hasbro produces a figure that does sell well for which the response is to produce more to make more money, and they end up over-producing it beyond "market saturation." The BAT, retro CC, and Crimson Guard are three examples of this with figures that sold extremely well, probably everyone here has all three, but they got overproduced to where they became clearance items. SO Walmart while having lots of unsellables blames the customers instead of the logistics of overproduction or shitty figures no one wanted. They then reduce the number of stores where stuff's available, so when new waves and exclusives come in, fewer stores get it. And it's selling well enough for Walmart to keep on wanting it nevertheless soliciting exclusives.
>>11741044>walmarts and targets stopped carrying itno
>>11741072>Not in my city.doesn't matter. GI Joe has been continuously losing sales ever since the movie bombed because of walmarts and targets dropping support. Losing 20-50% of sales are gone from the biggest toy vendors in the US.>Ross and Ollie's raised the prices.Also doesn't matter. The fact that they get ANY stock is a bad thing, because that's stock that DIDN'T sell at. A toyline that sells well shouldn't ever appear at Ross/Ollies/Marshalls/TJMaxx. Ross and Ollies get remainders, which means they're not actually supporting GI Joe's sales numbers. Ross/TJ Maxx/ollies are only supporting Walmarts/Targets/bbts's losses/warehouse situation when they carry and sell GI Joes.Even worse, the fact Ross/Ollies prices are ~70% off means that when they got their stock, Walmart/Target/amazon's prices were rock bottom already, which points toward GI Joe selling extremely poorly. When Ross/Ollies/Marshalls carries healthier lines, the prices are 40-50% off MSRP.>The blame falls on both WalMart and Hasbro. Hasbro produces a wave of four with one gem in it that sells quicklyI remember toylines actually sold so well that it was the opposite. 3 gems and 1 clunker.In fact, back in the day, it was actually 5-6 gems vs 1 clunker, because a wave used to have 6/7 figures. I mean, Marvel Legends still ahve that many figures, because that's an actual popular toylineYou can' blame Walmart and Hasbro if customers aren't buying toys that had no problem selling out in the 00s and 10s. If GI Joe is one of Hasbro's best selling lines, Hasbro is going bankrupt.
>>11741158>it doesn't matteryes, because you're wrong whenever you post
>>11741158>Mole Rat (V.2)>Big Lob>Night Viper>Lifeline>Hit-n-RunNight Viper and Hit-N-Run sold fast. Mole Rat and Lifeline are selling, but not like those other two. Ollie's is going to have Big Lob until hell itself freezes over. And WalMart will blame customers for not buying Big Lob, and somewhere out there there'll be fewer WalMarts that carry the line because of it
>>11741072>When they realized that scalpers were hoarding up everything then flipping it for $15 on up to $30 each, they raised their prices to get a bigger piece of the pie.Also, Ross/Marshalls don't care. They just want to sell out of their stock and will sell it to Satan/Trump, because they just want their money.Prices were $4.99 because it's 50% of what Walmart/Target/Amazon was selling them at. Prices became more expensive because the MSRP has become more expensive and also because Walmart/Target have halved their orders so their remainder situation doesn't require as deep of a clearance when they finally got rid of their stock to sell it to Ross/TJ Maxx... but the fact is, it's still over 60% off MSRP and that's still 5 years straight of them carrying GI Joes. I go to Ross/TJ Maxx a couple of times a week and i havent' seen a Marvel Legends in almost 2 years and that matches up with movies that bombed and their supporting waves. I mean, you can tell how poorly those waves sold, because some waves that came afterward showed up at Ross, which means Walmart/Target/Amazon didn't have space for those waves on their already full shelves due to how badly the movie waves bombed.Again, a toyline that is actually popular shouldn't ever appear at Ross/Ollies. So if shit like GI Joe makes a regular appearance, to the point I've seen almost every wave show up... that's doom and gloom.
>>11741176>Again, a toyline that is actually popular shouldn't ever appear at Ross/Ollies. So if shit like GI Joe makes a regular appearance, to the point I've seen almost every wave show up... that's doom and gloom.such as?
>>11741186like i said, stuff like Marvel Legends didn't appear for years.Other stuff that rarely appears: LEGO, Transformers, and quite a few others.Obviously, shit does appear from time to time, but not everything is going to be successful, huh? Whereas shit from GI Joe constantly appears, to the point where you wodner if you should even buy it when it's new. MAybe it's better just to wait until for it to sell poorly at Walmart/TArget/Gamestop and it goes on clearance or shows up at Ross a year or half a year later.
>>11741293>like i said, stuff like Marvel Legends didn't appear for years.The doctor strange 1 wave was in clearance stores like 6 months after the movie came out and that was 10 years agowhy do you post shit like this? it would so strange that you've been in these threads every day for years doomposting but you're too young to remember shit from 2016
>>11741306You don't seem to understand.Movie shit that did poorly shows up at Ross, but how many waves came out afterward that didn't show up? Like i said, it was almsot two years of me not seeing ML stuff at Ross. Marvel Legends is actually popular, so it recovers in sales after a shitty movie and doesn't need to be made into a 4 figure wave toyline like GI Joe.Whereas with GI Joe, wave after wave after wave, for year after year, has kept on showing up at Ross.This isn't normal And againnothing that Ross/Ollies is selling benefits Hasbro. Hasbro isn't making a single cent from those sales, because Ross/Ollies/TJMaxx's stock comes from Walmart, Target, Amazon, GAmestop, and distributors who already bought their stock from Hasbro. It's a complete wash.If anything actually comes from Hasbro, that's when the line is actually dead.
>>11741344>Like i said, it was almsot two years of me not seeing ML stuff at Ross. It's been about that long that you've been saying you don't see Classified anywhere, ever, except in the dumpster behind a fucking ollie's in pristine condition because not even the homeless meth-heads want them, and yet I fucking see them at every Target, Walmart, HEB, and Gamestop I ever go toDon't say>Marvel Legends never hit clearance stores until recently!when that's not fucking true, and then don't say>well, sure, the movie stuff did, but obviously I was excluding that in my broad blanket statement that included everythingAlso, the only movie figures that did poorly in that wave were mordo and the transparent strange, the regular stranges did SUPER fucking well because sherlock tumblr people snapped them up as well as the usual MCU fags, comic enchantress was the second if the most unwanted figure in that waveagain, just be quiet, you're always fucking wrong
>>11740967most excellent!
>>11741349>It's been about that long that you've been saying you don't see Classified anywhereWhere I'm at, every couple of months i see a brand new wave of GI Joes. I just posted people finding the Stinger and that is the newest stuff showing up at Ross, along with Eels, Stalker, Beach Head, and Snow Serpents. During Christmas season it was Jinx, Stalker, and a couple of others. During summer it was the generic military people. Because Ross is a nationwide chain, it's not a regional thing.All these figures people have been finding SHOULDN'T be coming out like how normal waves appear in stores. It shouldn't be quarterly, it shouldn't be season, it shouldn't even be yearly.The last time i saw an ML in my local Ross/TJ Maxx/Marshalls was with the Bonebreaker wave and before that it was movie shit (don't remember exactly what, because i don't care).>>well, sure, the movie stuff did, but obviously I was excluding that in my broad blanket statement that included everythingAgain, you don't seem to understand the entire point.Walmart/Target/Gamestop are LOSING money when they sell their overstock to Ross/Ollies/etc. If you see ONE wave per year at Ross/Ollies, like with MLs, chances are it doesn't affect their orders.If you see wave after wave, on a quarterly release schedule, year after year, this means that the next time Walmart/Target/Amazon put in their orders, they'll order a lot less stock. Shit like pic is exactly why 20-50% of Walmarts and Targets don't even carry GI Joe anymore. And the stores that still carry it, stock is going to be a lot less, because they base future orders on what sold previously. And BEFORE it went on clearance too.Do you even understand how retail works?Do i need to explain again how anything Ross/Ollies carries is a detriment toward GI Joe's future, not just because it makes fans want to hold off from buying shit at normal retail (like amazon/walmart), but because it's a sign of poor sales at retail?
>>11741421>jinx (figure from 2024)>retro stalker (figure from 2024)wow, crazy, those were on clearance a year later?
>>11741427ok, so you don't understand how retail works.They sit on a lot of stock for a long time, hoping it'll sell. So it sits around in warehouses until they need to make room, so they sell it off to Ross about a year later.This is why despite Winter Destro being a major shelf warmer in the 2010s, his wave never showed up at Ross/Marshalls, because they actually managed to sell out of their stock. GI Joe was still a popular toyline back then. Ross is currently getting Skeleton Crew toys and those also came out in 2024. They obviously bombed, just like the show they're from.Ross only carries yesterday's failures. They're not supposed to be up to date.Again, shit like pic is why not all Targets are stocking the GI Joe Classified line today, because what sold (or didn't) in the past determines how they stock shit in the future... but pic was an Amazon exclusive, right?
>>11741442blue ninjas were an amazon exclusive initially, they were never even intended to be on store shelvesthen gamestop started carrying themyou're so bad at this
>>11741456>toy sold so badly for amazon that it was also sent to gamestop to be sold thereAnd it still ended up at Ross.And yet people like >>11740895 want to claim it's one of Hasbro's best selling lines?Hasbro is doomed.
>>11741483people want to point out you're retarded because you've specifically used an one-time amazon exclusive as your example of the line being dead at target and walmart
>>11741493except i acknowledged it wasn't sold at Target in the same post that features the picture and the entire point is that GI Joe showing up at Ross is why stores aren't stocking GI Joe anymore.I get why >>11741456 isn't able to read at an 8th grader's level, because he's the third worlder, but what about you?
>>11741499I don't read your posts, I just shit on you for being wrong, every day, for years.
>>11738273It's not the fact that he's reminiscing. It's his dismissive bullshit calling everyone zoomers/third worlders that makes him an insufferable faggot.Plenty of people reminisce in the TMNT thread, MOTU thread etc, but nobody looks down on the kids that weren't there during the golden era like this faggot does. This fucker is constantly seething about anyone slightly younger than him.Don't bother asking where his bitterness comes from. It's pretty obvious.
>>11741527see >>11741502It's pretty obvious people like the third worlder only make contradictory noises for shitposting reasons and they eventually admit to it
>>11741533yes, I'm a third-worlder because I don't like the guy who's been saying the line is dead every day for like 3 years citing >obvious poor sales numbersevery time despite never posting actual reports or press statements or whatever
>>11741548>a large number of walmarts and targets across the US no longer carrying the line doesn't affect their sales>stores only having 1/4th the space it had from its relaunch doesn't affect sales>the new waves of the toyline appaering at ross/ollies on a regular basis isn't an sign of bad sales>Hasbro releasing fewer figures per wave than all its other lines also isn't a sign of poor salesThere's only a few contrarians who actively seek me out, so which one are you? Mythic Legions fanboy? The WH40k fanboy? The Mezco collector who has the Space Ghost figure? There's older grudge holders, who i butthurt for shitting on the REvoltech and Figuarts line, but they weren't contrarians. There's only a limited amount of you and all of you were obviously butthurt from me criticizing "their" toyline... well, not the Mezco guy. He got butthurt because I called him a poorfag because he's couldn't afford to buy the toyline anymore.And since you're in this thread, you're obviously a GI Joe fan, right? Post 2 Cobra figures and 3 GI Joe figures next to your electrical socket to prove you're a fan and not just some obvious troll.
>>11741548Don't post your figures in front of an electrical socket. He will only save the image for future shitposting and stalking purposes. The fact that he is trying to identify you as someone from one of the threads he has repeatedly shitposted in shows how insane he is.
>>11741456And they were stupid. Military fans don't give as much of a fuck about ninjas as Hasbro wishes to believe.
>>11741293>the stinger went to clearanceI thought it was reasonably-priced at $75. It was a better deal than got you massively more for the money than a $60 Ghost Viper did. I don't get why it didn't sell well.
>>11741681This. I'm more a military fan than a GI Joe fan so I stay away from the ninjas and other cartoon stuff specifically because it's doofy.
>>11741687I like the cartoon stuff because I'm still a fan of the original cartoon. I just can't get into "ninjas everywhere" bullcrap. Hasbro kicked it into overdrive when ninja turtles became popular to compete against them, and it's been "NINJA NINJA NINJA" ever since.
>>11741681>Military fans don't give as much of a fuck about ninjas as Hasbro wishes to believe.>t. zoomerThere's a reason why Snake Eyes is the most popular GI Joe in the GI Joe franchise.Why the Silent Issue is the most popular comic in the GI Joe franchise.Why Storm Shadow is one of the most popular characters in the GI Joe franchise.Why the Ninja Force revived the GI Joe franchise in the 90s and brought about the second best selling year for the 80s-90s toyline.Why Retaliation toys were big sellers, despite having no movie to advertise the toyline for a year.The 80s, 90s and 00s were big on ninjas. It's only in the modern age where ninjas aren't that popular, thanks to zoomer kids growing up with Call of Duty and Fortnite instead of Bruce Lee, Shinobi, Ninja Gaiden, GI Joe, TMNT, Chuck Norris, and Power Rangers.So with older fans and want to rely on nostalgia, you need ninjas. If you want the zoomers and gen alphas A, you need some LOL SO RANDUMB XD characters. So the fact GI Joe isn't popular today is because they don't have any pickle, banana, and toilet bowl characters.
>>>11741699 Hasbro kicked it into overdrive when ninja turtles became popular to compete against themSilent Issue came out the same month as TMNT, but Snake Eyes was already a ninja since ten issues before. Nevermind TMNT was small press on the other side of the country, so no one would know them for months/years later. Nevermind TMNT are a rip off of what Daredevil was doing at the time, which was already popular, but Daredevil itself was just copying what was popular at that time in the 80s: ninjas.>>11741686Nearly everything GI Joe is going on claerance, and a $100 small vehicle is of course going to not sell well. Only reason the Ghost Viper might have sold better is because it was exclusive to Walmart and FOMO.
>>11741827>Why Retaliation toys were big sellersBut the movie was an underperformer and Snake Eyes Origins was an ourtight flop in spite of ninjas everywhere. Wider general audiences don't give a fuck about your ninja trip, bro.
>>11741910the movie under performed, but Hasbro was boasting about toy sales for Retaliation Origins toys flopped and classified is selling worse than the origins toyline because pickle rick and skibidi toilet needed to show up in it. like i said, zoomers don't care about ninjas, so even tmnt and power rangers aren't popular anymore.
>>11741936>Origins toys flopped and classified is selling worse than the originssource of sales numbers?
>>11741972clearance and shelf spaceit's self evident, because retailers treat shelf space as a commodity. The amount of shelf space that's given to a toyline directly correlates with its salability. Location does too, but toy companies usually pay for that location (front area of the aisle is prime real estate)pic is after the movie bombed and does GI Joe get this much shelf space today?
>>11741979No action figure line gets that much shelf space today. You'd have more of a point if the entire action figure aisle hadn't shrunken considerably since the movie came out. In comparison to other Hasbro products, GI Joe at my various local retailers (I live in one of the top five largest cities in the US and live in one of the more densely populated areas) have more shelf space than Marvel Legends, Black Series (lmao), DC Multiverse doesn't even exist in the toy aisle anymore, and MOTU. TMNT, Jurassic Park and Transformers have a bit larger shelf presence but only because they actually offer more diverse products than just action figure and aren't being driven into the ground by the parent companies like Star Wars. So while my anecdote may not necessarily apply to other areas, including yours, I'm merely pointing out that what you describe is not actually the case everywhere. I'd have to assume it sells similarly on similarly populated areas. Maybe you just live in a flyover state or something.
>>11742006>No action figure line gets that much shelf space todayEither you're a shut in or a third worlder who's never been to AmericaAny toy hunting video instantly proves you don't know shit. https://www.youtube.com/@DisavowedActionFigures/videoshttps://www.youtube.com/@WCBs/videostons moreStop talking, because you ahve no idea what stores are like and you need to pretend everyone else is doing as badly as GI Joe. Here's Star Wars still getting a shit ton of space despite it being considered awful by everyone. even the 1:18 line gets more pegs than GI Joe.
>>11742035You didn't even link any actual videos. Just fucking worldclassnulshitters. And your pic must not be within the last few years. The SW section at every store I've gone to in the past several years has been half that. Sorry bro, I hate to burst your bubble, but it sounds like this Joe drought is exclusive to you and yours. I don't have the same issue, and find plenty of stock of Joe's on that shelf. Others don't seem to either. Judging from the reactions in this thread, and others the anecdote seems to be yours.
>>11742056i linked to hundreds of videos, third worlder. Stop pretending you know anything about America.Each of those guys makes a video at least once a week.and you can look through their videos and see for yourself that some of the stores don't have GI Joes. like in this specific Walmart store from three weeks ago https://youtu.be/hpkNrAT_jxg?t=521none of empty pegs would coincide with the GI Joe line, btw.
>>11742080>Everyone who disagrees with me is from the third world. He's your wall socket you constantly ask for you fucking little girlie faggot. Just because you experience something in your area, doesn't mean this is true everywhere else. Fact is, more people in this thread have reported being able to find Joes at their local Targets and Walmarts than just you who keeps saying that these stores no longer carry them. So here. Proof that I live in America. Inb4 you say it's photoshopped AI or stolen. Suck on dog shit you swine.
>>11742094so you're a shut in who's as ignorant as a third worlder.sad>Just because you experience something in your area,I just linked to hundreds of videos that proved what you were arguing against me was wrong, retard.>ib4 i'm worldclassbullshitter or disavowedactionfigureshue. And doesn't matter, because their videos prove what I've said is actuallly real, unlike the nonsense you've been typing outalso, i didn't ask for you to post any proof, because i just wanted to insult you. It goes to show that the third worlder that I've asked to post proof doesn't because he knows he got caught trying to samefag and he can't fake being anyone else.
>>11742136You might have actual brain worms.
It's the same fucking autistic sperg ano nwho has constantly criedStop feeding himIn a semi related subject (Anger inducing tumors)I can not find a good guide to remove the Haslab Dragonfly Tail and holy FUCK do I hate Hasbro for this one way connection shitI just wanna rebox it
>>11742146>onstantly criedhilarious, given its guys like >>11742094 who are crying and want to deny that a toyline that has had diminishing shelf space, disappearing from stores, and showing up at Ross on quarterly schedule is selling poorly
>>11742162Marvel legends hit Ross regularly too. So does Black Series. I just saw the ML wave with Agent Venom, Kaine, Chameleon, and lady Electro. SW shit is CONSTANTLY there. DC Multiverse has literally Ross exclusives. My guy, you are grasping at straws here. Classified has just as much shelf presence as other 1/12 scale action figures that are similarly priced in the toy aisle. No amount of insistence you make will prove otherwise.
>>11742094You shouldn't have done that. Do you now see how giving in to his demands is a lose/lose scenario? You jumped through his hoops, and now instead of being a third worlder you are a shut in. And I can guarantee that he will get into an argument in the future and repost your pic while asking the person he is arguing with "are you the shut in from the GI Joe thread who doesn't know how because they don't give GI Joe shelf space in my Latino majority neighborhood that it means Hasbro is cancelling Classified?"Also those figures are now cursed. It might not be immediately apparent, but you will need to perform a rite of cleansing before you start hearing vuvuzela noises at night or they start chanting "huehuehue" every time you walk past.
>>11742211Wouldn't be the first time. My infamous SHF Nappa with his hands behind his back has reposted by him plenty over the years. I'm not new to dealing with subjectretardo. I just like watching him move his goalposts and sperg like a little goon.
>>11742146I'm genuinely gonna crash out lolI KNOW this shit is removeable because somebody here literally said how and I didn't screencap it apparentlyI just wanna rebox this shit and get rid of it
>>11742171>you are grasping at straws herewhat straws am i grasping at?If a toyline regularly stocked at Ross, it''s selling poorly. Same with Ollies.These stores aren't ordering from Hasbro, they're getting stock from Walmarts/Targets/Amazon/Gamestop/BBTS who couldn't sell whatever they had and needed to make room in their warehouses. This in turn makes Walmarts/Targets/Amazon/etc order fewer of these products from Hasbro.Again, I said that i also regularly see Star Wars shit there too, and as we all know, Star Wars has been in a decline for years. The writing has been on the wall for Star Was for years, yet GI Joe hasn't declined? McFarlane's DC line? Ross have exclusives now, because McFarlane is trying to offload as much as possible before the license ends. So they need to profit off of shit they had planned out because those molds won't be used anymore.MLs? Again, i hadnt seen an ML wave in two years. IF you saw some spiderman, it was probably rare. I've watched a couple of those toy hunt videos and they also don't come across ML toys unless it's bombed movie stuff. HAving watched the newest videos, they have some Spiderman and Iron Man stuff, and according to them, it's rare to see MLs (unless its movie shit that bombed, which we all agree unsold stock is bad right?... except if it's GI Joes showing up at Ross and Ollies? WUT?).>>11742211I asked the guy whether he was a third worlder or shut in, because he claimed that every store has as much space for other toyline as GI Joe does. A complete lie and i proved he's a clueless liar by posting photos of toy shelves at Walmart and hundreds of videos showing toy shelves.I didn't ask him to post any photos of his socket. His photo doesn't prove me wrong nor does it prove anything he said is correct.I honesty don't get why you guys get so butthurt and want to argue against facts.>vuvuzelahue, now there's a meme i haven't heard in decades
>>11742349>I didn't ask him to post any photos of his socket>>11741553>Post 2 Cobra figures and 3 GI Joe figures next to your electrical socket to prove you're a fan and not just some obvious troll.
>>11742371that's someone else, retard.... but if it's samefag, then he didn't follow my directions.There's a reason I made a specific request, because any fool can go out to buy a toy easily, but an actual fan would be invested into the line.i know what the third worlder owns. If he wants to pretend to not be samefagging, he needs to spend a whole month's salary on 5 more figures.If it's some other anon, any GI Joe fan should already own 5 figures. I mean, even i fucking own more than 5 Classified figures and I admit I'm not a fan of the line.Nevermind I'm not even specific about which GI Joe line he could post. it would be nice to see some vintage figures being posted.Also, i consider any proof of fandom null and void if they take too long to respond, because anyone can ask someone else to take a picture for them (or go out and buy shit). I made my case for this a couple of years ago, by having someone take a photo of their warhammer mini next to an electrical socket. So posting proof shouldn't take an entire dayalso also, it should be obvious i wasn't actually pass off this photo as actually being me, because I'm not a girl. It's just a funny example of how easy it is to fake something if given enough time (took me an hour actually and she didn't get it right, since she was supposed to be touching the socket, but whatever).... but what does it matter about his photo? The guy's wrong. His photo doesn't prove me wrong nor does it prove he isn't ignorant about how American stores work.
>>11742349Why are you trying to pretend I don't know how Ross and Ollie's work? I know they're non sellable product from other stores. Except for Todd's DC exclusive figures. Those are literally made for Ross. You are grasping at straws. Joes has no greater presence at Ross than ML or Black Series. I was at Ross today and I saw more SW junk than anything. And no one is saying Joes didn't have a larger shelf presence in the past. It's just this weird insistence that Target and Walmart don't carry them anymore when they do and this annoying goalpost movement where you whine how they had a higher shelf presence decades ago. You're literally making up shit 8n your own head just to argue at. Get help you deranged lunatic.
>>11742349>McFarlane's DC line? Ross have exclusives now, because McFarlane is trying to offload as much as possible before the license ends.No there are actually DC Multiverse reissue figures that come in stripped down, carded packaging with no accessories. He did it for the most recent ,ovid Superman. I just saw Rebirth Superman yesterday. Do you even go to Ross? Figures in this style packaging can only be acquired at Ross. Your lack of knowledge on these figures makes me not trust your options you see. Almost like you're just making broad assumptions.
Can you insufferable faggots shut the hell up. Nobody gives a fuck about your argument.
>>11742453Thread is dead and there's a new one already. I'll use this one to make subjectanon feel like a retard thank you.
>>11742415>It's just this weird insistence that Target and Walmart don't carry them anymore when they doI literally posted a link to a video of a Walmart that doesn't cary the line, where it literally doesn't have a peg space for it, and it literally proves that it's not just my city nor state that doesn't carry it.If you watch enough of these toy hunting videos (or actually read the GI Joe General), you'll find many more collectors commenting about how their local Walmart/Target don't carry it. Literally not a me problem, because it affects others across the country.>make subjectanon feel like a retard thank you.You're not making anyone feel retard when you're so selective about reality to pretend to be right. Like this guy admits to it >>11741502 , some of you are just contrarians, who only argue because you're butthurt.Again, this post itself has the guy saying lines like MLs and black series have the same amount of space as GI Joe does at Walmarts/Targets/etc >>11742006>Joes has no greater presence at Ross than MLLiterally does, because, again, there's video proof of this from multiple states and cities. It's not just my experience. This is just more pretending from you, because you're angry I'm right about GI Joe The retarded measures you retards go to to prove me wrong is funny. Someone mentioned the Nappa figure and i loved how no one could pose the figure so that his hands could touch himself, UNTIL i told everyone in the thread how to shave the plastic down to increase the range of motion. So out of half a dozen people who couldn't do it for HOURS (a day?), SUDDENLY someone posted the figure doing it and that totally proved me wrong. hue.Your desperation and butthurt is showing.
>>11741979>ask for numbers>"it's self-evident, bra"Once again it depends on which store gets what, and WalMart's distribution is pure shit. Some stores get a lot, some get a little, and the rest get nothing at all.
>>11742453>they never made female greenshirts and blueshirts so you could have an army re-enact "Spell of the Siren" with two armies of women fighting like bitches while shit-talking each other's hair and shoes. Damn Hasbro.
>>11742627>Once again it depends on which store gets whatI've been saying this for months.Learn English, instead of arguing with me.And it literally isn't a distribution problem. The computers decided that certain stores aren't going to carry the line anymore because the line sold poorly in those certain stores. This is GI Joe's (Hasbro's) problem, because consumers decided not to buy it either because they don't want the line anymore or it's too expensive.
>>11742596Just because your shit hole stores in ghettoville Alabama doesn't carry an item doesn't mean the entire chain doesn't you sped.
>>11742663And tha tmakes no sense. That's like saying Walmart won't order a brand of lunch meat anymore because some of the flavors didn't sell well. And it's still selling well enough for Walmart to continue soliciting exclusives from Hasbro.
>>11742663>And it literally isn't a distribution problem. The computers decided that certain stores aren't going to carry the line anymore because the line sold poorly in those certain storesExcept these days it's all done by a retarded AI that decides that even a store that doesn't have high sell through rate for toys will get 40 of one specific figure while other stores that have a high STR for toys get nothing. >>11730960>>11731660>>11731756Walmart distribution is completely fucked. Anybody that has dealt with Walmart knows how arbitrary their shitty distribution is.
>>11742705>And tha tmakes no sense.... So Walmart #2153 should continue stocking GI Joes despite the fact it's not profitable for them to keep them in stock?You're a retard.Walmart isn't a monolith. Each store needs to justify its existence and remain profitable on its own. If GI Joe isn't selling to produce a profit in each store, the computer stops ordering stock for those specific stores.Ross, Ollies, TJ Maxx, etc are stocking up on GI Joes every single wave across thousands of stores and this stock is coming from WAlmarts/Targets/Amazon/Gamestop because it didn't sell in their stores. Ross/Ollie/Burlington Coat Factoy's shit isn't coming from Hasbro.So every single time you see GI Joes at Ross/ollies/etc, that's a lot less stock that's going to be ordered by Walmart/Target/Gamestop in the future.Pic is why Walmart #2153 doesn't carry GI Joes anymore.>>11742679Lern gooder English.
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>>11743093>not profitablepost the numbers already
Royal Guards came in todayCobra-La shelf finally worth it
