First for not having to go to work on monday.
Though i wouldn’t mind a Compiler instead of neetbux.

Friends, in a few hours ill be doing what ive managed to avoid for over a month now - going out not to get groceries but for social reasons.
I hope the thread wont die without me for a few hours, with how much ive had to lifesupport it lately.
Love you degenerates <3

>Move to a new hab to get away from my Affini neighbors
>My new hab is physically pulled out of the building it's in like a Jenga block, moved across town, and shoved into a new building with five Affini living on the same floor as me
How do I respond to this? What's my next move? I'm pretty sure if I try to move again I'm going to get in trouble for being racist against Affini or something.

>>72467141
>How do I respond to this?
How about throwing a bbq party or something to get to know the new neighborhood? It'd demonstrate at the same time that youre not racist, that youre sociable and that you're competent enough at indie life to handle dealing with dangerous hit surfaces ect!
Obviously make sure all your self care and tidying is in order to not give them anything to hook into.
And dont spend extended amounts of time physicaly close to them.

Other then that, sounds like your SOL and the powers that be decided you dont get to have indie neighbors. Bad luck for you. Just go hang out with fellow indies all day anyways, they cant keep you from doing that regardless of where you live. Plus they like to see people be outgoing.

>>72466609
Love you too, nona. I'll do my best to keep it alive. Everbloom knows I don't feel like working today...

>>72467359
Oh Honeydew it's been a long time since I've seen you post. How have you been?

>>72467529
Good days and bad, I suppose. I haven't been in the right headspace for the thread lately, some days I've been too depressed and others just too "no thoughts head empty" to focus on it. But I've still been thinking of you. <3
Today I'm mildly hung over and have no intention of being productive. I'm having some ramen and coffee while contemplating life. How are you doing, nona?

>>72467605
>How are you doing, nona?
Not them but ill tell you anyways >:)
I had some whacky moodswings yesterday. Was feeling a bit down and anxious for a while but then swung into the much prefered semi manic grinning like a madman towards the end of the day. Today, ive not been awake long enough to realy tell how its going. Im suprisngly a bit nervous about leaving the house in a bit, which is wierd cause its not like i havent hung out with these people many times before. But its probbably gonna be a good time, we're gonna get sloppy and watch movies.

>>72467724
Openly wearing a jacket that says 'free terra' is certainly a ballsy move.
I dont think either of them would last long, honestly. Just for verry diffrent reasons.

I have phsyical currency in my pockets right the fuck now btw. Suck it commie plants!

>>72467692
Sorry to hear about the mood swings, nona. I certainly know how little fun they can be. I hope you have a good time hanging out & watching movies, though!

>>72467724
Is this a trick question? Both of them at once, I would say.

Fucking shit the human body is a design nightmare
Cant take a shit for 10 minutes without my legs falling asleep and leaving me standing infront around like a moron for 2 minutes untill they decide to stop tingling

>>72467781
>Openly wearing a jacket that says 'free terra' is certainly a ballsy move.
it's so everyone knows he isn't a citizen of the affini compact and thus not subject to the human domestication treaty.

>>72467724
Im honestly slightly upset by how much the guy there resembles me. I have basicaly that same shoulder length hair and stubble with a hoodie and boots.
Fucking Shit LMAO

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>>72467781
>>72467986
I think we all know how that one ends up. <3

>>72463322
God's specialist princess!

>>72467605
>mildly hung over
I'm sorry to hear that! I know you know, but I would be remiss not to remind you to cut that coffee with generous amounts of plain water as well.
As for myself, I've been struggling a little lately. There's nothing bad happening in my life of note, I've just been much more prone to get sucked into little bouts of despair or loneliness, or fear. I suppose that's not considered unusual this time of year though- seasonal depression can effect us all.

>>72467724
Both, simultaneously. They'll be pinnates, too. And, oddly enough, will look very similar to each other.
>>72467781
>I have phsyical currency in my pockets right the fuck now btw.
To be fair, I can imagine tokens of physical currency still existing within the Compact, but only in the context of like, coin collections. Though, it's an interesting thought to wonder whether the Compact would want to encourage a habit like that, or encourage collecting something less capitalist-centric... stamps or rocks, maybe?

>>72468002
huh, you even have a little arrow that says "dire need for class gs" pointing at you

>>72469123
It's okay, I enjoyed myself last night and don't regret it. I'll be just fine, but I appreciate the concern. :)
Sorry to hear you've been struggling, though. I can definitely relate, most of the days I've lost to depression lately seem to boil down to "just because" or due to something outside my control. Sometimes it's hard to avoid the spiral. I try talking to friends, but sometimes I even fail at that too. We're not exactly short of things to feel existential dread over, I suppose.
I'm glad you reached out here, if nothing else. You're a good girl. <3

>>72469304
N-No i dont, s-shut up...

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>>72469775
well you're right about the first part
but instead of killing ourselves we're having fun reading and discussing and getting horny about amateur fiction
stay a while!

>>72469775
Is it really a psyop if it is upfront with the trans stuff?
Plus the obvious joke to make here is. If this makes you feel a certain sort of way. I got bad news for you.

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>>72470811
>they don't have to make any decisions or better themselves
that's the dream!

>>72471161
bold move depicting yourself as the onions homunculus

>>72466609
i'm so proud of you, nona! good luck!!! maybe you can tell us all how it went when you get back? :)

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It's been a bad few weeks for me, but I recognize today is prob a pretty scary day for a lot of people. Stay strong and realize that survival is often the best form of defiance in the face of people who don't want you to exist. Once my day calms the fuck down, I'll try to float in the thread a bit to chat and maybe do some writing to cool my nerves. You goobers are, as always, amazing people and I'm glad to have met yall.
Hope for the best.
Expect the worst.
Fight to bridge the gap.

Once again your kindheartedness makes you engage sith the trolls... sad! Just move on!

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>>72471369
Yeah, that's today, huh...? Guess that explains all the chuds.
Stay safe out there, nonas. <3

>>72471369
y'know with the way her horns are ridged it makes me wonder if it's more difficult to take off her helmet than it is to put it on, because like, the helmet itself might catch on them if she's too firm, so she kind of needs to "thread" it out around them. then again it's better for her to have a helmet than not! just a thought. i wonder if there's an easier way to handle that kind of thing...
that aside, please try not to get too worked up, and i hope that writing (or whatever else y'all end up deciding to do to relax!) helps you a little! be good to one another. :)

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>>72471488
Part of why I'm in today. Better to add more positivity to the pot than to let the evil fester or feed the trolls. They're gonna act up everywhere - just keep in mind that it's all just words on a screen written by very sad people who live their lives filled with hatred.
>>72471499
Lol the added hassle of things like horns/wings/other nonstandard body types are part of what makes me leery of them. We can't get left handed shit right half the time. I suppose in the HDG universe that matters a lot less tho

Someone should plommypost at the chuds. Overwhelming wholesomeness.
Not I, I suck at plommyposting, lol

>>72471582
>Lol the added hassle of things like horns/wings/other nonstandard body types are part of what makes me leery of them. We can't get left handed shit right half the time. I suppose in the HDG universe that matters a lot less tho
no that's totally understandable honestly. i've seen a lot of interesting ideas as to how to handle wings at least but things like horns or other features seem like they'd be more difficult to work with... like, even in hdg, i guess you could easily just compile things right? but then you'd still need some kind of blueprint or whatnot to compile from, so you'd essentially need to design clothing for almost every concievable type of bodymod because there's probably a lot of them out there that are custom or otherwise difficult to work with. case in point, like, there's probably a huge market for chairs with holes in the back if only because a lot of florets probably have tails, but then it's like, you don't wanna squish or sit on your tail if you're sitting down - which is less of an issue with a smaller, mostly prehensile one, but if we're talking like straight up dragon-like it ends up being way thicker which runs the risk of making it more unwieldy. still totally cool though. i mean in that case you could always take a roman empire sort of vibe of having people lie down on cushion-like beds instead of sitting upright around a table but then that might be bad for your posture or something.

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Questions time!
>For Affini
1) What kind of games (board, video, sport) do you enjoy?
2) Is winning necessary for your enjoyment? If you only spectate, does your team need to win?
3) Do you like your floret to be involved? Do they they play a special role?
>For florets
1) Do you have a competitive edge? Has this changed since floating?
2) Do you prefer games/forms of play where you can win or do you like more cooperative things?
3) Would you ever compete against your Mistress? What would it take to make you want to do so?
>For Independents
1) Do you enjoy sports or games that involve Affini?
2) Do you feel Affini have an unfair edge in some sports or games?
>For glorious children of Free Terra
1) Do you participate in unit sports? If not, do you at least continue to do PT?
2) Do you feel your physical fitness could potentially give you an edge in a Compact raid?
3) If an Affini offered you a chance to avoid domestication by beating her in a game, which game would you choose to have the best odds?

Seeing these threads getting bombarded like this only reaffirms my beliefs in the human inability for collective self governance. Your insistence on my inability to be a woman only proves the plants right.

>>72471369
>Stay strong and realize that survival is often the best form of defiance in the face of people who don't want you to exist.
That's a funny way to describe a bullet in the back of the head. Just like every other cowardly dissident, you'll keep talking about resisting until a xenodrug filled thorn is inside your neck. You're going to comply with every oppressive law without hesitation and maybe complain a little online. Don't pretend to be some sort of revolutionary. You aren't.

>>72471695
Petal, you're such a silly. May I make a teensy little suggestion? Don't post pictures of yourself online! I know it feels really good to get all that positive attention, but it's not safe yet. We aren't there in enough numbers to ensure no meanies use those selfies you post for sneaky purposes! Thanks for listening, cuteness! Have a great and nonconfrontational day!

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>>72472019
Geez there was some venom in that. I'm just trying to help lift spirits.
With all due respect, you don't know nothing about me. I've been an activist most of my life and advocate for resisting and fighting back against unjust laws.
Or would you rather people succumb to despair?

>>72472076
Your entire lives are defined by the rattling of your own extinction.
I can be whatever I want to be.

>>72472131
And you tortured him to death and destroy the image of everything he lived for on the daily

>>72472159
You won't either

>>72472220
You are
Christ is your king
You follow his religion
His religion is Judaism
You are a practitioner of a sect of Judaism
You are a jew

>>72471961
monster and crackers... mmm... breakfast...
uhh as for the questions,
>1) Do you have a competitive edge? Has this changed since floating?
...i'm a little odd about this. i don't really like the idea of competiting against people, mostly because i don't like the idea of making them uncomfortable by "winning"... but at the same time, i do find it a fun way to develop a relationship! it's weird - even with the more competitive things i'm interested in (like fightan!), i often find myself more drawn to the design and identity of them rather than the process of actually engaging in them against another person.
i guess since florthood, that's mostly stayed the same?
>2) Do you prefer games/forms of play where you can win or do you like more cooperative things?
i kind of like both? the problem with co-operative things is that it can sometimes feel like a lack of team synergy is somehow the fault of one or two people in particular. but, being able to win is a pretty core component of games as a whole, so i wouldn't downplay that. that being said, i do like co-operation as a design element of games! it can really bring out the best in people, and also leads to a lot of interesting mechanical complexity that can be explored here and there! :)
>3) Would you ever compete against your Mistress? What would it take to make you want to do so?
i'm almost certain i'd be unlikely to win, but i wouldn't mind if she'd prefer it? the difficulty is that i'm not really sure it'd be "competing" so much as a method of socialisation. i'm sure it wouldn't take much to convince me into it, though.

>>72472271
And I know I can better myself and be happier with what I become.
You calling me mentally ill would make all the bodybuilders in the world equally if not even more so deranged.

>>72471961
Questions!
1. I've been examining roleplaying games lately. They're fascinating, though many authors seem to have difficulty keeping the granularity of decision consistent and never specify if that is intentional. Basketball is enjoyable to watch too, with modern rules at least. Seeing adorable florets floating above the court to more easily score basket is very pleasant, especially when they start accidentally pushing one another around instead of playing.
2. Winning amounts to completing the game. Leaving an interesting story unfinished isn't satisfying to me. I don't enjoy competitive games for myself.
3. My floret used to have an fps problem before domestication. She was banned from several games' servers for toxicity, so I haven't allowed her to play those games very often. Sometimes we play calmer games together and I let her make some of the choices.

>>72472097
There was no venom, simply annoyance at the idea that existence is what is under attack.

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>>72472357
This is my take in general. I started with 0 expectations. It's a "for me" thing, any chance at being closer to what I want to be is a step up. I'm happier today than I used to be by far. I can actually feel my own emotions now that they're not being smothered by dysphoria fueled depression. I don't feel like an unperson anymore. And sometimes I get to look in the mirror and say "hey, I feel pretty cute today!"
I seem to pass. Stupid brain says the world is hugboxxing me, but hey, I'll take it. So I had 0 expectations and not only were they surpassed, they were Shattered beyond my wildest dreams.
Has it been hard? Yes, one of the hardest things I've ever done. But very few things worth doing are ever easy, anyhow.

>>72472374
Some people will feel that way. I just want to lift spirits. Especially with the chuddies in the thread.
Whatever will happen will happen. I've prepared my contingencies and hope other people have as well. The trans advocacy group I work with is running overtime to catch laws/executive orders and spin up legal action needed. Analyzing EOs is a big concern of our legal team right now. Hopefully they can blunt the blows.

I ought to answer my own questions. Gotta make a grocery run tho.

>>72469323
>You're a good girl. <3
While it's factually true that I am both good and a woman, I'm not sure that you using those words together is the right way for you to describe me honeysuckle! It's good to have a community around you who can support you, I don't know where I'd be without mine. It's very important to me that you be proactive in reaching out to your friends over the next few months! Can you do that for me petal?

>>72472522
I can be and become whatever I want to, especially given the advent of rapidly advancing technology. I don't have to settle for being fat, short, or ugly, I don't need to fit into some definite shape. And not conforming to such doesn't make me delusional. I can be what I want and be happier for it. You're delusional for applying your accepting the state of your suffering as if it can't be improved upon.

>>72469123
Vitamin D supplements help. Part of seasonal depression can be decreased sunlight exposure. Vitamin D deficiency can cause depression.
This is especially true to those of us in far north/far south parts of the world. Being only as far north as, say, New York state, can cause you to be Vitamin D deficient unless you spend a significant amount of time outside.
Humans are, in a weird way, pretty much complicated houseplants it seems.

>>72472019
>Don't post pictures of yourself online!
i desperately need an owner to help stop me from doing this i just need validation so bad

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Hey, a newbie here.
Could you give me a little summary of what this literary universe is like? I'm a fan of world building haha

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>>72473503
Welcome!
There is a description at the top of the thread - and the wiki has a lot of the basic info. Pretty much humanity in a grimdark capitalist dystopia are defeated in a war by the Affini Compact and subjugated to "Domestication" - the process of turning non-Affini species (sophonts) into pets. Its a very kink focused world and, yes, it's very trans-centric (tho being trans is NOT a requirement to enjoy it). Many of the stories focus on the progression of Terrans from either ferals (loyal to the old societies) or Independents into florets (fully domesticated pets) - often with a huge focus on mental wellness. (Though not always - the mental wellness aspect started to emerge AFTER the original story, and some stories still focus heavily on the darker aspects of "imperialistic hyper advance race enslaves humanity for pets")
It's pretty fun and my experience has been that the community around it is *incredibly* wholesome.
>>72473284
I'm sure your Mistress is on her way at this very moment, petal. Why don't you be a good sophont and sit tight, maybe indulge in a hobby or talk with your adorable little friends?

>>72474600
>the community around it is *incredibly* wholesome.
Ive only seen thus thread, but i can definitely confirm that. Besides some trolls comming in lately and some slow hours, i have no complaints.
Have had more indepths discussion about ethics, philosophy and my feelings with the people here then then i'd have ever expected to have with anons in a wietd fetish thread on /trash/.

Posting from a train righ now. Ill respond to some things of the last hours more properly when i get home in like an hour.

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Have you introduced your floret to scatplay yet, affinianons?

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>>72472701
I'll do my best, Miss Siren. I do talk to them basically every day, just some days I don't have it in me to participate much.
I've missed you. And I stand by what I said - you are a good girl. <3

Allright, im home now.
>>72471359
Hmmm i was praised :)

It went well, we had a good time. Although the movie picks were realy wierd and uncomfortable, we all collectively agreed we should have watched idiocracy instead (Since we also watched a certain happening before starting the movies)
Still had a good time laughing about the movies over drinks though.

They actualy invited me right out again tomorow for some tabeletops. Im probabbly going to make myself go, since thats usualy a good time too. But maaaaaannnn am i ever looking for excuses to not have to go and leave my two days in a row, fuck me hahahahaaa

>>72473503
Hello newfag! I hope you stick around and have a good time feeling various combinations of jealously, comfort and horror :)
Always glad to have more people around.

>>72472787
Man ive been hella slacking on my (vitamin) ds
Should probabbly be more diligent about that since its winter AND i dont get out

>>72471961
>Do you enjoy sports or games that involve Affini?
It depends realy. This ties into the answer for the other question for me.
>Do you feel Affini have an unfair edge in some sports or games?
Some definitely, some not realy. Its a bit fuzzy that line, but generaly i'd say im not cool with things where theres an *inate, physical* advantage they have. I wouldnt want to compete in say a highjump or race in the same category as one of them. Or even poker, because they have an immense natural ability to read peoples tells.
But for purely skill based games... i dont realy mind as much. If they're better they're better, even if they have had hundreds of years longer to learn. Skill is still skill. Pretending like thats not the case is what makes the rebels constantly fail in most things they try.
It can still be frustrating to have your ass handed to you in pub matches and such, but thats why skill based matchmaking is a thing.

>>72477753
>I've missed you.
I haven't gone anywhere petal, and I'm doing my best to keep track of you. I'll be around to talk with, as long as you want me.

>>72471961
>1) What kind of games (board, video, sport) do you enjoy?
I most enjoy playing board games, though floret sports can be very cute to watch!
>2) Is winning necessary for your enjoyment? If you only spectate, does your team need to win?
I tend towards co-operative games. Winning isn't important, as long as we get to enjoy the feeling of working towards a shared goal together. Of course, I would loathe to lose if a cute floret was playing as well.
>3) Do you like your floret to be involved? Do they they play a special role?
There are some games that are excellent for florets. The games are an excellent form of stimulation for the dear ones, and truth be told they can be assets to the team as well given their different cultures makes them more likely to think laterally with regards to the puzzle at hand.

I've been living under a footbridge in my local park for over a year to own the weeds. They can't do shit about it because I'm happy, healthy, and maintain an active social life with the other weirdos in my area. I even have an Affini friend, but I'll never divulge her identity because she lets me fight her floret and I'm pretty sure she'd get in trouble for that. I always lose because she's been biomodded with gorilla arms or some shit, but we all have fun. When the weeds hit me with that "you can live wherever you want" bullshit I always hit them the "I want to live under the stars" bullshit. The "I want to wear the breeze as a blanket" bullshit. The "nature is my neighbor" bullshit. They've had to file a homelessness report for the first time since taking over the planet because of me.

>>72479106
I mean, if you do genuinely enjoy living like that then how is that an own? Putting aside all the fucked up shit they do, they do genuinely want you to be happy. And if you are happy like that, thats not realy an own.

And if you dont, then the only thing you're owning is yourself.

>>72479303
It drives them fucking crazy. They're sending vets and wellness officers over every other day. My existence is a constant stream of paperwork for these uptight bureaucrats.

>>72479561
Sounds like you have a particularly narrow minded neighborhood. Its wierd, right? Lots of things that us terrans would think is wierd they dont give a flying fuck about. But then it turns out that they *do* have some preconception on how that happyness should look like, eh?

Dont make the mistake of thinking they are botherd by paperwork though. They LOVE paperwork. Those bureaucrats im willing to be secretly *thank you* for causing needless paperwork. They're crazy about it.

>>72479758
Paperwork is foreplay for Affini. Since they can't domesticate me, they don't get to cum.

>>72479815
Nah nah nah. Well, yes. But no. It goes deeper then that.
Why do you think you need to file triplicate paperwork for EVRYTHING like stars damn getting groceries deliverd? Not *just* abouIt florin. An omnipressent fetishy urge for them, so they produce messes worse then any terran government ever had. Or i guess better by their standart.

Also, im chewing through the last rest of absicion right now. The chappter where pyrus and bread talk about ethics actualy makes me reconsider what we were talking about just the other day, in regards to possibly dissident affini. Maybe thats less uncommon then we think or get to see/read about? Theres clearly guilt and regret there about how things went, with bread specificaly but also with the accord and the rebels in general. I doubt that just pyrus being an exceptional wierdo.

Also, do you have any recomendations on my reading order? I was planning on just chewing through the foundational works as listed on the wiki, before going off and reading random stuff and recomendations ive picked up.
Up next would be divaricated.

>>72478854
Awfully noncommittal for a 'fini. :3

Going collar shopping with mistress...

>>72481393
>it's the big day
>you're almost too nervous to get out of bed that morning
>all the ways you could make yourself look stupid flash through your mind so fast you can't even attempt to refute them
>too nervous to eat breakfast, you force yourself to put on something comfortable
>your favorite hoodie that's kept you safe for years
>warm, no patterns to draw attention unnaturally, and loose enough not to overload your senses, you're worried what will happen when it wears out
>just as you finish combing your hair after messing it up putting your clothes on, there's a buzz at the door
>your future mistress
>she's the most beautiful plant in the universe and you're going to be hers, unless she changes her mind and decides she can do better (because she can)
>grab your shoes and run to the door to let her in
>as soon as you see her smiling down at you you have no words for her
>"sorry for being early, but I'm glad you're so close to being ready, little one"
>she lets herself in and sits on your couch while watching you tie your shoes
>at least she isn't offering to help like last time
>when you're done she wraps a vine around your waist like a belt and pulls you out the door
>as you walk together it slides up under your shirt so it rests on bare skin
>she has so many vines going everywhere at once nobody will notice, but it's still embarrassing
>after half an hour you reach the store
>you know it's the right one because it's packed with affini
>most of them are alone
>you're going to really stand out...
>try to pull back but the vine around your body forces you along, leaving you no choice about where you're going
>maybe you should rethink the whole pet thing...
>you were so distracted trying to escape you didn't see the name, but the store's contents couldn't be more obvious
>collars
>that's it
>more collars than you've seen in your entire life, all perfectly sized for human necks line the windows and hang on racks scattered through the store
>mistress pets you

>>72481806
>she pushes you forward as the other affini start to notice
>you try to pull your hood over your face but you still feel them staring
>"darling, you need to take that silly thing off so we can try these on you"
>stammer out that you don't because she already knows your measurements
>instead of taking you home, she rips off your hoodie, exposing you to everyone and snaps a collar around your neck
>you didn't even get to see it because your eyes were covered...
>but you're guided to a mirror, where you see yourself collared for the first time
>it's... not what you imagined
>your owner to be must be able to tell because she takes it off and puts another on before you can say anything to her
>the two of you go through several more collars before she starts feeling irritated
>that means you're making her mad by not being a good enough floret and not only are you still stuck here she's going to leave you as soon as you and she leave the store!
>"shhh"
>she scratches you behind the ears and wraps vines around your shoulders
>it doesn't help you relax but it stops you from shaking so much
>you feel yet another collar clicking into place on your neck
>why is she bothering with someone as useless and ugly as you?
>"look at it, darling" she whispers
>it's leather, covered in little spikes
>it's really nice, but it's pink and you can't have that
>people might find out...
>reach to take it off but you can't bring yourself to remove it
>seeing mistress's vine wrapped through a loop feels so right
>"good girl"
>mumble that she's not supposed to say that in public but she ignores you like usual
>brings you to the checkout and tells the owner you'll take this one
>some affini cheer behind you
>what a disaster
>reach for your hoodie but mistress keeps it from you
>she laughs when you tell her it's cold out
>"if you're cold, stay close to my core"
>"I want EVERYONE to see how perfect my floret is and that you're MINE"
>that helps, but you still want your hoodie back...

>>72481806
I feel bad always just responding to your greenss with "cute" or "nice". But they are!

A slow burn of consensualy getting domesticated is verry appealing to me. Like going on dates and such like this! And evry time you love her a bit more... slowly adding up over time... untill youre there and done one day eventualy. Or perhaps you could keep going that way even then...

What kind of collar would you all choose? Im partial to just plain simple black or brown leather.

Is it safe to be given "good night hugs" by the plants? My habmate keeps asking to give me one but im worried about her biorythms fucking with me without her even meaning to.

>>72483059
>im worried about her biorythms fucking with me without her even meaning to
There's no such thing as an Affini that doesn't want to "fuck with you" with their biorythms. They consider the effects of their biorythms on you to be positive and beneficial to your health even if they don't plan to domesticate you.

>>72482236
>But they are!
Thank you, I'm glad you think so.
>A slow burn of consensualy getting domesticated is verry appealing to me.
I can only write "and then the evil feralist said 'no I don't want to be a pet'" so many times. It's nice when florets know what they are from the start.
>What kind of collar would you all choose?
That depends very much on the floret, but I've been pondering something braided by the owner. It would have to be durable but soft in case the floret needed to be jerked around for some reason.

>>72483059
There's nothing at all unsafe about that. So if you've been wondering if there would be a problem with sleeping in the same bed with an affini, don't worry. Nothing is going to harm you there.

Feral ship that finds itself so far removed from terran space, that when they're finally captured it's their affini captor's first time ever seeing humans. Needless to say they're beginning to understand the appeal.

>>72482150
depriving cute boymoderflorts of their hoodies is deeply cruel, though regrettably necessary. poor thing.

>>72483059
habmate? why do you have an affini habmate?

>>72483357
>terrans are in high demand in the core worlds but environmental protection laws prohibit exporting too many of them from their historic systems
>most affini have only seen them on video
>but *these* ones are *feralists*, and they came out here all on their own...
>surely the OTNA wouldn't mind...?

>>72483496
A whole ship's worth? That's enough to establish a stable breeding population! What a boon :)

the last place to look for terrans is within those imperialists' core
they have their search parties around the known systems, the worlds on the rim, but they'll never look inwards, what kind of self preservation strategy is shooting yourself towards your captors?

>>72483884
what kind of self preservation strategy is shooting yourself into deep unoccupied space where you're guaranteed to run out of fuel and float until your crew dies of starvation or oxygen deprivation?

>>72481806
>>72482150
i really like this one, thanks for writing it hbfy <3

>>72484199
it's the strategy that gives us a choice, that says we have agency over ourselves, and no plant's going to say otherwise!
but its also the strategy that crews mutiny over.
fun fact: did you know that if weed sympathizers take over a ship, they just lock the terrans in the brig while they transmit on all frequencies?
told them about the mines but theyve bought into the green propaganda.

>>72483059
"if you think about it, affini biorhythms are basically hypnotic radiation and enthrallment is the hot version of radiation poisoning"
just don't get yourself incapacitated and you'll be fine

what would an affini do if they came across a terran who was drifting off, yawning, with dark circles under their eyes, resting their head on their forearms, and just generally acting sleepy?

class-b flort who gets to replay their favorite game for the first time over and over again

>>72484396
straight to catgirl surgery

>>72484593
wehhhh

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>>72471961
Dang am I really the only Free Terran left in the thread? Welp, I guess I'll answer my own questions now (as weird as it feels, if gives me something to do)
1) I shirk unit workouts as much as I can get away with. Who the heck wants to do whatever calisthenics the local ensign came up with? Sports sounds like a way to twist my ankle and wind up on a profile. I settle for running around the cargo bay.
2) Plenty of cardio can get me far away. It's a well known fact that the weeds for outmatch Terrans in physical prowess, so my best bet in a nightmare scenario is to create as much space as possible.
3) Affini are notoriously cunning and their brainwashing makes me leery of games that would rely on my tactical prowess. Ergo I'd propose a game of pure luck. Perhaps some card game, since I always keep my deck on me to do card tricks with when I'm idle and need something to do with my hands. Not poker - not sure how to read a plant.
Or maybe just a coin flip at that point. It wouldn't be fun with my life on the lone. Heads you win, tails I lose. Waitaminute...

>>72484602
sleepy kitty :3

>>72471961
1) unit sports are overrated anyways. but yeah. i do my walks and my stretches so that i dont turn into a potato
2) hahaha if one of those things gets into my bunker im done for anyways. there is no edge.
3) weeds rig things. we know its true and anyone who says otherwise is naive. i say a game of hide and seek, at least i know a few nooks and crannies to drag it out for a month
best bet is i outlast their attention span

pokepoke

>>72483466
She was already there when i was asigned the hab. I was pretty unhappy about it, but apprently they didnt have any free habs that day. So i just said fuck it, those are easily big enough for 2 people anyways.
It was akward at first, but we get along decently well. She likes being verry affectionate like the weeds just do, but shes always respected it if i tell her no or to back up. Even if with some things she keeps asking.

Maybe i should just let her if its a quick one, the others seem to say its fine...

>>72471961
I keep as fit as i can on our starvation rations! I try to do both! Though sometimes i can only physicaly manage one or the other.

Yea, like other person said, i have no Illusion about beating one of the weedmonsters physicaly... but you know what they say about bear attacks, right? I feel it might appy here aswell, and then i got a good shot!

I challange them to see who can beat ancient terran videogsmes first. Choising espechaly violent ones, of course. Theres no way they're gonna know all speedrun Tricks i do, ir even be able to look at them witout being physicaly sickend at whats being depicted.

>>72486853
Pokey the firefini says only you can prevent ferralism

Does it seem to you like people that actualy bring up reading the storries just get totaly ignored? Im guilty of this too ig but ...

>>72489362
people keep bringing up abscission and I haven't read it and probably won't any time soon
so yeah, I kinda skip those posts

>>72489764
Yea thats fair enough then i guess. Might i ask why btw? Its the first thing listed under foundational works.

>>72489863
got wrapped up in other longfics that I'm slacking on reading

>>72484380
I like this alot as a description of how biorythms work. Are qouting it from somewhere, hence the parentheses?

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>>72489954
stole it from tumblr
was going to post it as a screenie but decided it was short enough just to copy the text

>>72480097
I think that's a great reading order, but I would skip Wellness Check. Some lore things are established in wellness check, namely wellness checks and digitization, but otherwise I think it's the most boring, conflict-less wish fulfillment fic of the bunch.
For me when I read that scene in Abscission and similar ones in Divaricated, I found them incredibly hot. It's sort of like moral quibbling between Affini, about the lives of humans without consulting them is so condescending. Like humans arguing over whether cats should be indoors or outdoors, while never really breaking the assumption that they are pets and domestication is obviously right.

>>72490321
>It's sort of like moral quibbling between Affini, about the lives of humans without consulting them is so condescending. Like humans arguing over whether cats should be indoors or outdoors, while never really breaking the assumption that they are pets and domestication is obviously right.
Oh fuck, not goin to lie i completely failed to conciously realize thats whsts happening reading it. Im cooked lmao.
You're right, that is what its like. Adds an interesting dimension, on one hand griping with some cool moral quandrys... but without remotely challenging the underlying base assumptions. Nice haha

Ill see about wellnesscheck when i get to it. Maybe just have a quick skim of it instead then

Also
I realy am cooked jeez
I stopped myself from texting under the shower with a thought among the lines of "nah that'd look bad to them, better not"

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>>72490871
Welcome to the party. We all flort down here. Everyone's so fuckin cooked.
I read the wrong thing and max petbrained myself all over again. What a fuckin curse for someone like me. ;=;

Are the plants going to make me get off cafeine if they discover my definitely not addiction i can stop whenever i want?

>>72492320
yes
you're going to have to get a proper amount of sleep

>>72492337
I do get 7ish hours though
That just dont stop from having 5ccoffes and a redbull ;-;

>>72492372
florets should sleep a *minimum* of eight hours a night, along with a few naps scattered throughout the day. this is enforceable under compact law.

>>72492372
anon I don't think your guts are enjoying your habit as much as you are

>>72491406
I independent down here :3. I would never be domesticated and I prefer it that way.

>>72492462
Pressing X to doubt.

>>72492492
Why tho? ;-; all you have to do is say no, not be feralist, and maintain your 4 pillars of wellness...

>>72491406
What did you read? Anything we wouldn't have already thought to read too?

Fellow independents, how many of you would watch feral breaking videos? I would probably watch quite a lot of it, might even save my favorites to rewatch later.

>>72494952
Thats sick. No way. I'd rather pretend they dont exsist.

>>72494952
I’d probably watch them on occasion, if only for the catharsis of seeing “free terra” meatheads get BTFO.

>>72493178
We must not be reading the same HDG stuff, then. My understanding is that Affini generally don't care and will find a reason to domesticate you if they really want you. Besides, nobody's perfect. Never, not once in your life, slipped into a depression? Never let the dishes stack up? Never flake on your friends?
Shit, actually, having my life under threat of being turned upside down for slipping up just sounds like my current life stressors all over again. I'd be stressed the fuck out 24/7 with the weeds looming.
"Just say no" in the world that has a big noncon/dubcon flag on even the fluffiest of stories, lol
>>72494100
Just... some old chat logs... <///<'
Believe it or not, HDG don't put me in this headspace like that. It just makes me vulnerable to it.
>>72494100
Saving this comment so your Mistress can show you your own breaking every day. It's not feral breaking but your ardent indieism could be close enough.

>>72495491
You have to consider that the figure of less than half of all sophonts being domesticated includes all the people who volunteer and all the people who fail wellness checks or are feralist. Forced domestication outside of that is actually quite uncommon. It's not like you're instantly domestication bait just because you allowed your chores to fall behind for a week or so.

Many many stories stress that domestication isn't randomly forced just because you're cute.

>>72495605
Yea, this is correct actualy.
We like pretend its super easy to get gotchad, but even if that does sometimes happen its super rare. The wiki says explicitly thst they try to do anything they can to ensbke independant life, even if you need ocssional Support due to mental illness or such.

Though desu the wiki almost reads like a biased narrator to me sometimes.

>>72496024
That's been kinda my take. The wiki reads like propaganda.
>>72495605
In any case, yea, you're probably right. But like... what's the shtick here? If you just like the idea of living in a utopia, why not just fantasize about Star Trek or some ish?

>>72497086
>The wiki reads like propaganda.
It's genius. The weeds control the wiki. Making us think it's all fiction. Making us think that it'll be great when they show up.
God damn it. They played us like a damn fiddle.

>>72497086
I don't get to read about sophonts breaking so amazingly in star trek. Also star trek isn't a utopia there's a new threat to the galaxy every month forever. Also no crazy fun drugs everywhere etc. Hdg caters to my incessant need to cuddle all the time, florets are conditioned to cuddle right back and other indies are desensitized to it.

>>72497178
A mix of endearing the ones they can to voluntarily submitting to be pets and then otherwise making the people who can't be made comfortable with it think "couldn't happen to me" mirror real world propaganda campaigns very well. Only the bad eggs will get domesticated, don't worry, you'll obviously get all the benefits of magic space communism with no downside from a demonstrably imperialistic and expansionist species who dominate entire species for the express purpose of making pets out of them.
Honestly I think it just comes from having multiple writers. Most people don't like "bad endings" and somehow "and them all of humanity was domesticated" reads as a bad end despite the fact even one Terran being involuntarily domesticated is actually also a "bad end". Honestly the dissonance kinda bothers me.
But... I've come to accept I'm the odd gal out. I'm here for the hard stuff, because there's more appealing stories for soft stuff than HDG to me. When I want to read soft stuff, the idea of giant mindrape plant aliens kinda runs counter to that.
>>72497251
Eg, to each their own. I don't get it, but I don't gotta, I guess.

>>72497365
Realistically we don't have the capability of fighting back against any species able to travel the stars to reach us, so it really doesn't matter if the idea that only bad eggs get domesticated is propaganda since I can't change it either way. I choose to believe they will allow me to remain independent so long as I take care of myself.

This whole setting is literally care and affection fantasy, I don't see how this could be something for so called harder stuff even for those who do get domesticated.

>>72497518
In fairness, the level of mind control used on feralists isn’t exactly soft. Still beats the hell out of the way humanity treats people who don’t fit into society, imo.

>>72497618
Fuck I love watching the moment that the will finally gives out. It's so good...

>>72497668
Yes and *that* is what I'm interested in. Like, I've got better places to go for wellness fics. That's all.
Like, I dunno - I read the OG first and LOVED it, and that kind set the tone for me.

>>72497845
Which is to say... the idea of someone FORCING me to take care of myself doesn't appeal to me as much. It's a fun fantasy - but the fact is that I'm very self sufficient. One of my fantasies is having my compulsive hypervigilance ripped away from me - and that is not something I can even begin to imagine happening softly - especially because it's so engrained in me. Reality is that in a HDG scenario, I'd probably be an independent as long as my search history and things I've talked about here aren't considered red flags. I'd fight hard not to submit to domestication because that's the mind of person I am, and the anxiety of having to maintain that would make me just as miserable in the HDGverse as I am IRL. I'd rather them just get it over with, and that requires the weeds to be a bit darker than they've been depicted over time.
Oh well, so it goes. I'm a miserable prick in every timeline.

>>72497845
Just because I like to read that doesn't mean I want that to happen to me. Also I said I like that already.

>>72498205
Yea. I get that. I was, at this point, mostly verbalizing my own takes... namely in response to " I don't see how this could be something for so called harder stuff even for those who do get domesticated."
Like, it's NOT about the care aspect for me. That's the "how" to your question.

>>72497518
>This whole setting is literally care and affection fantasy, I don't see how this could be something for so called harder stuff even for those who do get domesticated
>>72497668
>Fuck I love watching the moment that the will finally gives out. It's so good...
Fascinating.

>>72497845>>72497956
Yea, i have a slightly similar mind about this... kind of. Im down with reading loving Kind and consensual any day... but if there wasnt that edge of existential dread this setting wouldnt be interesting to me. I like the particular mix, not all depressing horror slave rape shit all the time but also
Not fluffy rainbows all the time. I enjoy my stuff plenty light and wholesome, but there have to be those ocasional moments of "wait hang on thats actualy not wholesome at all". Pure fluffy niceness i can still enjoy if its short, but it'd get boring eventualy. And its not why i got stuck here.

As for myself, if i'd manage to stay indie or not would likely depend on if we belive the fluffy propaganda version of what they're like vs the "gotcha, get petted" version. Cause i'd probabbly need some help on occasion to meet their standards...
But, while i might get the urge and fantasy to do so at my low points, i'd in healthy sober mind certainly try my best to stay away from domestication... i can imagine myself being convinced of almost all of it being cool and good desu... except the part where theres actual mind control. Thats the ultimate deal breaker to me, i highly doubt i could be convinxed otherwise without them using their drugs or rythms to brainwash me in the first place .

>>72498379
Side note the presence of biorhythm intrinsically makes almost all of HDG darker to me, because the fact that it's there at all means their presence is innately intrusive. And that's before getting into the drugs.
I'm not saying I'm not into fluff fics. I loved the Saga of Dandelion for instance. Hell, art for it is my Discord pfp. Just that it's not what I show up for. I can and will read and enjoy them. But what gets me to open AO3 and search HDG is that I'm looking for something at least a little bit rough. I have other places to go for wholesomeness that aren't tainted by the fact that the weeds literally brainwash you by existing near you.
I will agree that the mix of wholesome and horror is what makes HDG unique and attractive. The wholesomeness is enough to make you readily able to look past the existential dread of the logical situation and say "yea, I'd be a pet for a plommy. I could do that". If I *just* wanted hard noncon, well, this wouldn't be the place for that, either!
I'm just the weirdo that sits on the side of the fence of "Akash is prob two steps away from my ideal Affini" and ik a lot of the community does not seem to like her. I've yet to read something that hits the mix of dread, hot, and "you WILL be loved and cherished whether you like it or not" that Akash did in HDG. The forced signature sequence, mmmf!

>>72498379
Anon, the will finally gives out straight into care and affection, often because of prior care and affection. It is fully consistent, and fully soft.

>>72498634
I'm not sure how someone can read actual literal brainwashing, hypnosis, and implants that identity death you as soft. Like, at all, in any shape or form. And those are key aspects of the setting.

>>72498702
Like, someone correct me if I'm wrong here. Biorhythm, forced drug usage, and implants are kinda fuckin scary right? I'm not the only one that finds those horrifying and kinks off the mere fact that it's scary to me???

>>72498634
I guess the fact that theres fluffyness after instead of further horror makes it slightly less dark/hard then just quietly resigned misery... but the verry faxt that the will *does* break is inherrently hard/dark.

>>72498766
No no, im much the same no worries

>>72498783
Like, thats what im talking about here, the contrast that i find awsome! Even in a "concensual" scenario thats mostly fluuffy... you're still genuinely signing your rights away and getting a genuine ass mind controll device fitted

>>72498702
Implants identity deathing you is debatable, though I fully agree that that is the case.

>>72498766
Biorhythms are just a hazard of the setting, they don't even brainwash you really. They just addict you to their presence. They aren't scary. Drugs can be, but they aren't forced except for your health unless you're feralist or already a pet.

>>72498783
I disagree

>>72498905
Biorhythm 100% is used to modify thoughts in popular fics. They're not just addictive - they're passive brainwashing. Plus even their addictive nature *alone* makes them inherently dark.
Also forced domestication is always dark by default. That is the removal of agency. Even the forced usage of drugs in voluntary domestications would be inherently dark. "Because they are a feralist" doesn't make it any less dark to drug the hell out of them.

Honestly this topic had made me feel really really really gross about HDG. I think I'm putting it down for a couple of days. Sorry to be a bother.

>>72499020
It makes it not a hazard if you understand the setting even a little.

>>72499087
Sorry to hear that haha
But i do get it i suppose.

Hope to see you back soon :)

... ive definitely also gotten the urge to read some shit where humans are awsome and win as a plalete cleanser haha

>>72499087
Sorry about that, for the record I didn’t find you to be a bother.

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>>72499105
I flatly disagree. I think you're giving the literal mindrape plants too much credit. And now thinking about how fucked up HDG is in very flat logical terms has made me feel very gross about the setting in general.
>>72499138
>>72499180
Thanks. I'll prob be back. I always do. Just feels like when I first found it all over again, that "geez this is kinda gross and fucked up" feeling eventually got turned on its head by wholesome slop.

This is probabbly a good moment to drop that line of discussion such as to not shit the thread up with it aby further? I dont think the disagreement can be resolved here haha

I miss the real plommyposters. Nowadays it's all florets playing at being plommies and seeds. And greentexts. Honestly I kinda hate the greentext and pseudo-RP centric bend it's taken since we got exiled from our homelands. If want to read fics, there's always AO3.

>>72499506
>always accused of being a floret when I plant post
How do I get people to stop? I'm a real domme I'm very scary please stop bullying me

>>72499506
Eh, I feel like the difference in medium gives them quite distinct appeals.

>>72499572
Gotta lean into the condescension. You are BETTER than all the silly little Terrans populating this thread. They are meant to be pets and you are meant to own them. Also "please stop bullying me" doesn't exactly exude "real/scary domme" energy. You're a switch at best with that kind of talk. Probably one that spends 80% of their time subbing.
>>72499594
Maybe. But I also done like the greentexts I read here. I've started just skipping past them because it feels like wasted time. Which means some of the threads feel very very empty to me.

>>72499506
>I miss the real plommyposters. Nowadays it's all florets playing at being plommies and seeds.
How do i learn to tell them appart? I assure you when indie and seed post its geuniue.

Also what else would we do all thread if therecwas zero rp and greening?

>>72499229
You'll be back, petal. You always come back, because you know exactly where you belong. Being a silly little "max petbrained" sophont is such a perfect fit for you that you can barely tear yourself away, despite how much our nature disturbs you. It's okay. You'll come to love it, eventually. Then maybe one day you can see how good it is for you, just like your little independent friend.
Why, I bet you are still reading the thread despite making such a show of things! Don't worry, we'll wait ever so patiently for your "triumphant return". Until next time, sweet little Angel

>>72499727
Threads used to be mostly discussion of the setting and of the stories with a health mix of RP (nothing wrong with the RP) as well as general discussion of real issues. I think because it started from/lgbt/, it was much more prone to the type of discussion that crops up there mixing in. Seeing posters discuss how the setting was impacting them and talk about other things was very very endearing.

>In a bizarre twist of cosmic fate, human adolescents and adults display features that nearly every species of xeno in the intergalactic catalogue consider neotenous
>That is to say, very very cute
>It's not just the affini. They *all* think terrans are worth doting on
>Soft, pale flesh that resembles Beeple hive-pupae
>Light and scattered hair like the born-furless Xenrani young
>Big, round eyes like Xa'a-ackétøth fry
>It's impossible to escape doting, petting, and worrying over what you're doing, no matter where you are in the universe

>>72499834
>how the setting was impacting them
okay i can blogpost! i think something beautiful about the setting is that while it depicts florets as lesser than the affini, it flat out refuses to cast the florets themselves in a negative light, even pushing back against any characters who believe florets are weak or worthless. i am becoming so much more comfortable with my own desire for a 24/7 dynamic. my partner is seeing a lot of that, and we've been way more open about our relationships future goals- her being the breadwinner and leader of the household, me being the decoration on her arm. it makes me so happy that we're working towards the same goal, and she's become much more assertive with me in general though we don't have the real world financial cushion that that kind of relationship would really require. thanks HDG!

>>72499965
Good for you, nona. Can't say I can imagine *ever* having that kind of relationship.
But you don't gotta do that on my behalf. I'm just an anon that doesn't even contribute to these threads. It's not my place to criticize.

>>72500079
you're contributing right now! good, good girl! or boy!

>>72500116
>inb4 they say "good boy" but the good girl made them feel squirmy inside

>>72500116
Ew don't do that. Baseless praise isn't what I'm here for. Just bitching about the state of the thread instead of fostering the environment I want to see is NOT contributing.

>>72500165
this sounds stupid but that's literally how i know i'm not trans
good girl does nothing to me but good boy makes me feel like my brain is melting into a strawberry-flavored puddle

>>72500188
I'm so proud of you for clearly stating your boundaries. Well done, nonna.

>>72500165
Hm... no, I'm a girl.
No squirminess, just not in the mood for that.
>>72500219
Thank you? What's your game, anon?

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>>72500274
>What's your game
teasing you with baseless praise for saying you don't want baseless praise
but now that you've asked and I've answered the joke is dead

>>72500329
Sorry, nona

>>72499834
I cant speak to how thing were back on lgbt, cause i wasnt around for that. Ive been around for maybe slightly over a months now.
I do agree theres not a *super* lot of setting discussion some days. Though we've had some lately! It also feels like those topics are somewhat easily exhausted though? Idk.

Okay, it seems i misinterpreted your words regarding RP. Good good, i think its good fun also.

again i dont know how it was on LGBT; but ive definitely done more discussin about my personal issues and emotions then i ever expected comming into here. Though that does seem to have somewhat declined recently, i still feel like we've got the atomsphere for it alot of the time.

What exactly bothers you about the greentexts? Theres been some misses in the pile naturaly, but ive enjoyed a good amount of them

imo the thing that makes hdg more or less wholesome is that it's central conceit is that sophonts with power use that power to try and better the lives of sophonts without. sure there's a tiny bit of horror that stems from the fact that compact's morality doesn't necessarily align with our own, but calling it dark is like calling Superman stories dark because he has such a power imbalance with all of humanity. like, the point is correct, this is inherently disturbing, but that doesn't capture what most of the pics are about even a little bit, and focusing on that point is silly.
however, this obviously differs a bunch from fic to fic. the original HDG is obviously dystopian, but if we're being frank most of the writing in the setting is closer to Divaricated.

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>>72500329
>baseless praise
me next! me next!

>>72499654
>You're a switch at best with that kind of talk.
nuh-uh!!! i'm not a switch I'm a big scary plommy stop calling me subby you can't break me i'm a hot dominatrix i've never had a submissive thought in my life and i definitely won't submit to you

>floret is getting pouty because she doesn't feel like she's 'earning' the praise you're giving her
>silly petal doesn't realize that existing so cutely is reason enough
>give her a pet for being cute and silly and obliterate her consciousness with euphorics

Antfarm is a very good boy

>>72500355
I think the environment for discussing personal issues has been getting strangled by the backlash against trips. They're the ones that engage in that talk most often and are typically met with disdain over not keeping non-HDG to themselves among their server. I've vented a bit here only to watch the likes trips get put on blast for trying to talk to me about it.
Greentexts are just microfics. I have plenty to read as is. I just simply don't care for them. They lack the emotional capital to actually make me feel anything like actual fics do. In the end it's just slop, usually catering to the particular writer,'s kinks... which I don't share a lot of. I don't want to be roofied, breastmilk grosses me out, various flort shenanigans are lame, and one of the greentexters is just depressing. There's been some good ones, sure, but it feels like sifting through shit to find a peanut when I can just open AO3 and read one of the many high quality fics that already exist.
>>72500423
The entire setting is inherently dystopian. Like, there are classical definitional points for describing a dystopia and HDG hits all of them dead center. The setting as a whole is fucked up and the fluffiness happens DESPITE that. That's why it's hot.
>>72500522
Jokes on you, I'm a megasub, I ain't breaking shit.

>>72500522
Theres nothing wrong with being a switch, anon. Actualy, its kind of ideal isnt it? all the more possibilitys to explore.

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>>72500585
trvth nuke

>>72500590
>I don't want to be roofied, breastmilk grosses me out, various flort shenanigans are lame
jeez, there's really nothing for you here

>>72500475
you're a very good girl, petal- such a good, cute, sweet, special, precious, adorable girl! you're the most specialist girl in the whole wide universe, aren't you? the best flort there is? the very cutest?? yes, i think you are! good girl!

>>72500475
Cute! Cute and lovely and special and wonderful. That's you!

>>72500590
>The entire setting is inherently dystopian.
I think where I end up disagreeing is that while I understand why you say the setting is dystopian, the stories themselves largely do not act as dystopian fiction. I think I'm being a little silly about this though so ignore me please

>>72500590
I wish there wasn't backlash against the trips, I love the trips and I think they're all very cute, especially <redacted>

>>72500850
Data, is that you?
Unredact that right now, I need to know who is cute. It's aura, right? Aura is clearly the cutest.

>>72500750
it's me! it's me! i'm the most specialist? thank you thank you thank you thank you i love you thank you
>>72500754
omigosh thank you you're the bestest

>>72500898
Nope, not me. I could give my guess, but they'd probably get mad.

>>72500898
no it's me
>>72500937
hi Data I hope you're enjoying my posting. glad you're here and I hope you're recovering well <3

Y'know, im pretty sure i most closely qualify as a sub. Since thats what makes me excitied. A nice and equal thing can be good aswell, but its less exiting. While being dominant is a pretty wierd thought.
But why then is it that it makes me feel wierd and off at the same time as it gets me going? Like, it seems like im supposed to atleast be resistant and bratty and not skip straight to total submission... but then also not realy being into that part of the whole deal.
Quite possibly im just a moron that cant deal with their own feelings.

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>>72500632
>actual pic of Antfarm

>>72500993
If it's you, then turn your trip on. I need to knoooooow.

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>giving someone's puppyflort a pat and tell her she's a good girl
>jumps on you and starts thanking you and licking your face and asking for more

>>72501054
i think a lot of submissives struggle with their feelings of submission because it directly contrasts with a lot of things that society tells us we're supposed to do and value. in a world that rewards type A personalities and people who are willing to push others down more than anything else, it's very hard to be someone who wants more than anything to be the pet at someone's feet. this is hardwired into you by every lesson you learn and every piece of media you ingest from birth. it's hard to break free of that, but a dominant who unconditionally respects your gift of trust can help you start to heal

>>72501071
I meant it was me, not Dataanon. The cutest trip is actually <redacted>

>>72501054
You like the game. The fight. The struggle. Honestly domming don't quite do it if they just submit right away. My ideal is pure brat from start to finish. But not many people I've met IRL are like that, and I can't RP it too well because there's a limit to my words when it comes to an extreme brat. Gotta be able to get my hands on them and show them their place.
Yes I like CNC how did you know?

>>72501170
Unredaaaaaaaact pleeeeeaaaaaaase I'm weird about this I gotta knooooooooooow

>>72501197
>Gotta be able to get my hands on them and show them their place
omg hi how are you doing today?

>>72501232
a-anon i can't just admit to my crush on <redacted> like that they might see!

>>72500585
>>72500632
>>72501063
Not even posting currently and still get dragged into the “baseless praise.” As one anon put it.
Thank you, though

>>72501335
hey

>>72501335
It's Aura isn't it?
>>72501252
Hi! Like I said, I can't make it work with text based. But you're free to imagine your resident hard dom having her way with you if you like.

>>72501088
>getting known as the local patslut because you'll scritch anyone

>>72501232
kittyflorts are the cutest, it'd be meeee if I posted more

>>72501397
*bites lip* hi
>>72501418
it could be any of them you'll never know

>>72501418
I would not like. don't be ridiculous, i am a classy woman, not some sort of stupid slut in denial you can break as easily as that

>>72501548
I'm saying it's Aura until further notice.
>>72501580
You're the one who ascribed "stupid slut in denial" to yourself, and especially after going in about your particular needs. You're not just a shameless slut, you're a pretty fuckin brash one, too, aren't ya? Is that why you immediately responded to me like that? You can't say you JUST wanted to talk to me based on that. Don't pretend to he classy, we all saw exactly what transpired here.
So what, what do you want, hm?
You're just going to say something stupid and bratty like "i just wanted to say hi, you're the one that made all the assumptions", aren't you?

>>72500993
I am. You know, I'm pretty sure there's at least two people samefagging right now. It's kinda fun to watch. Do you know miss domme?

>>72501742
i just wanted to say hi, you're the one that made all the assumptions
wait a second, that doesn't mean anything. you're not smart, and i'm not some brat, stop saying things like that!

>>72501132
Yea this seems about right for an explanation for where this wierd internal chafing stems from.

When discussing kink and sex shit, its verry easy for me to pinoint that i like being subby, *maybe* equal but definitely not dominant.
Yet thats the completle fucking opposite to how i've learned to deal with social shit in the actual day to day. Im not even half bad at the "vaguely smug and selfassured" thing, i do pretty well actualy pulling the confidence man... Y'know aslong as things go my way and that house of cards dosnt collapse lol.

>>72501197
See thats the fucking things thouh. I dont. I *feel* like im *supposed* to be that way to justify the submission somehow. But realy i'd much prefer to skip to the nice part, atleast most of the time.

>>72501742
>I'm saying it's Aura until further notice.
say whatever you want anon, maybe I want to make out with ALL of the trips
>>72501837
I'm not sure who that is, is that a trip I missed?

>>72501884
you should read A Beast At Bay, it's one of my favorite lesser known HDG fics!

>>72501846
Get rekt, nerd. I bet you're the kind of pervert that likes the idea of being drugged into a stupor and waking up bound and helpless, right? You probably talk big game all the way until someone makes you shut up. Or are you the kind of stupid little girl that keeps asking for more even when she's in tears?
I know your type. You hide the reality because you know you're unlovable like this. So you let it all out in these little /trash/ threads.
Alas, this isn't the place for this kind of thing anyhow.

>>72501930
She reminds me of Nightshade. That's the only time I've ever seen this kind of posting. But it very well could be another person. They're not familiar but their style is very very consistent.

>>72501964
Putting it on my list, thank you. :)
I should realy get crackin reading so that list can finaly start to shrink instead of expand lol

>>72502074
>Nightshade
oh I see what you mean. "Miss" Nightshade certainly gives the vibe of a cute little domme who actually just wants to crumple and writhe beneath the touch of her superiors

>>72499776
Hi hello yes I am explicitly opposed to 'see[ing] how good it is for [me]'

I would in fact prefer to remain independent.

>>72501088
Cute. So many florets being affection sluts is part of the appeal.

>>72501469
>patslut
Yeah probably

>>72502042
>you're the kind of pervert that likes the idea of being drugged into a stupor
n-no!!
>until someone makes you shut up
no one can make me shut up. I can talk trash all the way up to orgasm and beyond
>you're unlovable
o-oh, okay maybe you do know my type but that doesn't mean anything!

>>72502081
you really should! there's a lot of really good writers. contributing to the universe, it's worth while, just sort by number of kudos and see what you can find!

>>72498766
Scary isn't the word I would use for those things. Isn't it so much nicer to cut through silly resistance to uncover the gentle docility that was always lurking below the surface? Why is it scary for a pet to come understand her owner's wishes without the need for explicit communication? Ensuring that florets never deviate from their native obedience is logical, and there's no reason to be afraid of those who care so much for their wonderful pets!

>>72499506
I enjoy writing very short stories and those don't gain much traction on formal writing sites unfortunately.

>>72499572
You're a wonderful little domme, darling. Good girl.

>>72501397
>>72501548
Here we go again...

>>72502350
>I enjoy writing very short stories and those don't gain much traction on formal writing sites unfortunately.
I know what you mean! maybe if you published a little collection of several short stories that could be more enticing!

>>72502312
Adorable.
I'm sure you'll find a brat tamer who will adore you one day.
>>72502219
Sounds like a sub acting big and bad. She types like me, but gives off that kind of vibe? That must be pretty sad.

>>72502350
are you really so fragile that a couple of frivolous posts makes you want to put others down? it's not like it actually interrupts anything happening in the thread, and if anything an occasional increase in post frequency helps with visibility

>>72502350
>Good girl.
Thank you Miss! I'm so happy you think I'm doing a good job <3

>>72502409
i'm not adorable!! i'm a woman, not a pet, if you want to describe me you could use adjectives like beautiful, intelligent, empowered.

>>72502623
Disgusting, stupid, weak little worm who is so broken that it can only understand pain as affection.
Let me guess, you're taken, right?

>>72502704
that's the opposite of what i said! you're a jerk and i don't even like that sort of thing. maybe you're just saying things YOU want to hear

>>72503023
I see, so what you said earlier about Nightshade was likely of the similar vein. When backed into a corner you try to deflect by turning the degradation back on your counterpart. So then what that means is that YOU want to crumple and writhe beneath the touch of your superior.

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Why are you god damn weeds so insistent on agressing? I just want to be left in peace! Why cant you just LEAVE ME BE?
I might not have one of your fancy replicator lookalikes, but im perfectly self sufficent. I have all i need. Im at peace. OR I FUCKING WOULD BE IF YOU DIDNT KEEP TRYING TO GET YOUR VINES ON EVRY BREATHING THING IN THE GOD DAMN VERSE!
Not a day goes by without me having to collapse atleast one of the hidden access tunnels to my underground bunker-fortress-farmland-thingy. Why cant you take fucking NO for an answer? Do you want me to just set off the self destruct nuke, huh? You cant have me! And you cant have my facility either! I spent billions in shares and favour to get this thing built! They called me crazy for it! WHOS LAUGHING NOW McCONNEL, HUH? "Stupid investment" MY ASS!
ILL BLOW THIS ALL TO KINGDOM COME BEFORE I LET YOU GET YOUR SLIMEY LEAVES ALL OVER IT!
JUST GO AWAY!

>>72503260
why would you think that was me?? wait a second, you can't just "no you" me what are you a grade schooler?

>>72503536
Similar typing style, sorry.
But this isn't very HDG related. As fun as it is, I must stop.

>>72503431
>farmland
Bro's growing plants and is surprised when the plants come knocking

>>72504025
If i dont grow plants how will i feed my food?
DO YOU WANT ME TO STARVE, BOOT-LICKER? Its a verry involved and complex system, self sucfficent for generations if properly maintained! They have the whole universe to play around with, and they REALY need MY GOD DAMN CORN?
WELL TOUGH BECAUSE THEY AINT GETTING IT!
Its my corn! I use it to feed the piggies! I use it for bread! Many things realy!
CANT THEY MAKE ENTIRE GARDENWORLDS TO GROW THEIR OWN? How much more clear then "property of hortusbellum corp, keep out. enforced by auztomated fire." do i need to be to make them understand NOT TO COME IN?
I have scarcely ment anyone with such an irrational singular obsession with controlling someone just out of spite! This cant be cost effective or profitable for them, surely? Even if you have infinite material resources you still have an opportuninty cost for spending so long on one thing THATS NOT GOING TO WORK AND LITTERALY BLOW UP IN THEIR FACE?
ITS DERANGED!

>>72503644
well i mean, you were right!
i think brat taming is 100% hdg related, and i think this thread is a little too dramatic about what counts as on-topic given it's on /trash/ and has a trip culture

>>72504403
Yes but me degrading a blatant brat without even attempting to take the steps to present it as HDG RP is not. And, as I said, I don't much like doing this over text. On top of limiting my tools, it also limits my feedback. I can't see the glint of apprehension, the subtle stammer, glancing away...

>>72504623
>I can't see the glint of apprehension, the subtle stammer, glancing away...
you... you wouldn't see those things anyways cause they ARENT there. i am perfectly capable of ummm maintaining my composure! you'd have to class D me to get anything more than a stoic gaze. wait a sec, even if you class D'd me that's all you see cause i'm NOT some kind of slut

Okay! Ive actualy finished abscision now.
It was a good read. The process of autmn turning from a broken mess into a pet was interesting in how subtle it was. Sol seems to have genuinely been trying to set her up for independance atleast initialy, yet autumn kept slowly but surely becomming more floret like and disconected with independant humanity, falling down the chemical rabbit hole. The explotation of their medical tech was cool.
The way ethics and morals were handled is also pretty good, in that it wasnt at all just "were always right and can do no wrong"... while of course still maintaining that making humans into pets is verry good and moral, its just the how and why thats in question, ha!
I also liked the various descriptions of the implant, and how exactly it interfaces with the brain and body to excert its control. terrifying, hot... but honestly most of all just deeply fascinating to consider.
over all, i conclude: I liked it.

Though i gotta say, the first fini i get to read about in deeper detail being an emotionaly complicated *hardcore sadist* probabbly didnt exactly help me see the setting as fluffy.
Dont get me wrong, i like it to be somewhat dark. And the storry did make perfectly clear that thats just sol, and not "normal". Still though, haha.

Probabbly tomorow then i will actualy start with divaricated. Gonna be interesting to see how diffrent or not diffrent it is in style and tone.

Thank you for being here in the trash bin so i got to discover this shit in the first place. Its been a ride so far, and its far from over just going by the sheer amount of stories for me to pour over slowly but surely.

>>72504733
You're persistent, that's for sure. Or maybe stubborn is the right word for you.
In any case, I'll be sure to show your Mistress these messages.

Cuddles... Cuddless with mistress as we drift off to sleep together... nighty nigthy...

>Try to grow some plants in a planter box on my hab's windowsill
>Affini neighbor grafts a bunch of weird space plants that she probably plucked off of her own body onto them

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The main thing that interests in me about HDG other than pure fetish content is crossovers where the affini deal with powerful humans that can beat the shit out of them. It’s just entertaining to imagine the role reversal

>>72507441
I admittedly don't have very much experience with the lore on affini, but from what I've heard at least they're pretty obscenely resilient. I.e, they're essentially invulnerable up to the point of existential erasure, and at least seem to lack any general concept of fear. So while I'm sire there are plenty of fictional humans beyond the point of reasonably domesticating, most of that already slim collection won't pose any actual threat to them.

>>72507812
Not to their intergalactic empire but to individual affini definitely. That character for example is called Issac Netereo and there is zero doubt that he could kill an affini without trying. In Hunter x Hunter most humans are normal but there isn’t really a ceiling on how strong they can get with enough life aura, Netero is a monster

>>72505562
stubborn? that might be true, but i think it's a virtue to not stop just because you see an obstacle.
Miss and i watched my favorite movie tonight, so she definitely wasn't getting my bratty side. Maybe if she doesn't stay up too late she'll see it when she comes to bed

>>72507812
NTA, but I think completely destroying an affini’s core would be enough to do them in. That’s no small task, but I think there are actually a solid number of fictional characters capable of that. Of course, if they’re ported over to the HDG universe then they have to contend with universal affini plot armour, but some of the more stupidly powerful characters could be argued to have ways around that too.

>>72507944
How’s he gonna obliterate the core? He could probably pulverize an affini fairly easily to the point of forcing them to rebloom, which could be considered a kill, but unless he’s striking so quickly with the Bodhisattva that the heat generated from the strikes starts burning up the core cells, the affini could still potentially get out of it alive. Granted, maybe the threshold for destroying the core isn’t that severe, but I remember reading a fic that offhandedly mentioned a case of an affini getting caught in the dead centre of a massive, nuke-level explosion undergoing a protracted reblooming process, so...

>>72508199
His punches would have enough force to pulverize an affini’s core in pretty sure. Punching as hard as something like a rocket isn’t that difficult to do as a strong nen user and he’s way beyond that. Adult Gon could probably kill an affini pretty easily too

>>72508044
Well, I hope you have fun.

>>72507944
this isn't really a powerscaling setting. or thread

>>72508509
unfortunately i think i'll pass out before she gets here, so less fun than i would have otherwise. thanks for keeping me company Miss Nona!

>>72507441
>affini try to domesticate Kirby
>he just rolls with it because he's already sweet and loving
>casually knocks back a meteor one day

>>72509000
Sounds like you should go bug them, then?

>>72500590
>I don't want to be roofied, breastmilk grosses me out, various flort shenanigans are lame
oh... um..... yeah, that is pretty much all i write about, isn't it? sorry if my greentexts clutter up the thread, but i probably won't stop... i don't write that many anymore, though! and i can try to keep them to one post only! maybe that'll help :) i just like being able to write about an idea i like without having to put too much effort into making it a full fic

>>72500898
hi nona! i love you nona! can we get married and move somewhere far away and remote together? can we live the rest of our lives with nobody but each other as company? can that be enough? would i be worth abandoning everything else for? can you love me like i love you? sorry. i didn't mean it. we can start with easier questions, if you'd like.... do you like mcdonald's? can we go there together? i'll even pay for your meal, like a good girl should! (please don't buy anything more than $10, i'm not that good of a girl yet)

>>72507441
do you imagine the powerful humans eventually being domesticated or do they just win forever? i can sort of see the appeal of a human being strong enough to put up a little bit of resistance compared to the tcn, but i don't really see the point if they don't eventually get domesticated

>>72509758
if there's a reduction in the amount of aura plommy greentexts being posted i WILL throw a tantrum about it :(

>>72502487
No, but you clearly are.

>>72503431
Oh no, not the adorable "self destruct nuke" that will certainly harm you rather than making lots of pretty sparkles in the sky so a nice rescue contingent can find you! Please no, petal! Think of all the plants who haven't had a chance to rub your head!

>>72508421
You missed the most interesting thought experiment: Affini vs mr. rogers.

floret got a cheeseburger and vanilla shake!

>>72474600
Hey, the newbie from a few days ago here.

Just as you recommended, I read a bit of the wiki including the rules of this literary world and some other things, thanks a lot for the recommendation!

Class A headpats untill the pleasure knocks me out cold

>>72510760
Can they hold it without spilling it all over though? Or are they being fed by their owner?

How many forms do i need to file to get some proper non-compiled sour dough bread?

>>72509758
>hi nona! I love you nona!
Oh my! Jumping straight to dating and even asking for my hand so quickly! You don't even know my name, cutie! I'm flattered!

Yknow, being carried places realy dosnt sound that bad. Who wants to walk?

>>72512944
they're being very careful and only made a little bit of a mess - ketchup all over their mouth.

>>72514155
I think the hardest part is the oven req form. Hope you have a buddy with a proper kitchen to borrow.

Indie who's deeply internalized that pets arent people and all is well in society.
Looks at feralist protests or resque attempts with confused bewilderment and annoyance, like you might look at the shit PETA pulls.

>>72516234
Pets AREN'T people tho. I thought the setting made it very clear. Florets are just sockpuppeted extensions of their Masters.

>>72516563
well yea... but i doubt the avarage indie can truely accept that, considering they still vaguely look like people and sometimes act like them.