Isle of Berk Edition>Last Thread: >>2620517>What is this thread? Why are there two generals?/rcg/ was initially created as a way for the roller coaster enthusiasts on here to discuss all things roller coasters and theme parks. While roller coasters are the main focus of these threads (and the title of the general) there is also discussion on other theme parks, their rides, as well as the parks themselves and trip planning too. That's where /tpg/ comes in.>Can I talk about Disney/Universal parks in this thread?Absolutely! Disney discussion of all sorts including rides/resorts/dining/trip planning is OK.Thread Tip Pro: When in line for a coaster with a bunch of normies, feel free to autistically infodump to them every single iota of information you know about the ride you are about to go on: opening date, manufacturer, # of inversions, stats etc.Roller Coaster Database:>https://rcdb.com/Amusement Park News Sites:>https://www.themeparkinsider.com/>https://www.screamscape.com/>https://www.coaster101.com/Disney Park News:>https://www.wdwnt.com/>https://www.wdwmagic.com/>https://www.allears.net>https://www.mousesteps.com
Video preview of the isle of Berkshire Hunthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WYJfbVMeA4Key new details they've shown:>a lot more of an actual island than it's looked from the construction work>water battle ride has a "hand built wooden" aesthetic>show confirmed to be a version of the Beijing shows>Animatronic dragons around the isle, both fixed and wanderingNot shown: the insane queues for that Dragon rider training flatride, that kind of ride always has a painfully slow load/unload.
>casually holds highest roller coaster G-forces world record for 23 years
>>2637107Mindbender might have been right behind it, before Six Flags and Premier Rides butchered it
>>2637087Those are movies gay but the land looks pretty good so far, significantly better than I was expecting
>>2637119It's clear that Universal is pouring tons of money into this to make sure it's as big a game-changer in the florida theme park scene as the wizarding world originally was (maybe even more so)
>>2637087Upon first view it looks a bit more flat than I was expecting, I assumed there would be higher mountains and stuff, so I hope all the forced perspective stuff on for example the big mead hall works out. But I'm sure it's hard to tell from renders like this, it'll look better irl. Looks great, and the amount of dragon figures/animatronics will really add to the atmosphere.
>>2637144Just realised this is going to be the first theme park I've seen where the entranceway is going to be completely free of (disused) ticket booths
Hitting up CP in late may. Probably one of the most annoyingly placed big park in the US. Still somehow insanely crowded every day of the season.Scared to know the wait time for TT2
>>2637085I'm done taking annual trips to Orlando.Now I'm just going to move there this fall, getting AP's to Universal, disney, and seaworld.Is the premier pass worth it over preferred?How do you think Epic Universe will affect annual passes?-Will AP holders get early access to the park?-Will AP prices jump a lot when renewing around that time?
>>2637176Price increase with Epic Universe, may have passholder preview days.
>>2637176>Now I'm just going to move there this fall, getting AP's to Universal, disney, and seaworld.King
>>2637174I’m probably just going to avoid TT2 for a while. Will be nice to see the trains flying by and up the top hat again
epic universe "how to train your dragon" land deep divehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk3G19WpHOAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WYJfbVMeA4
>>2637278oh and roller coaster ride testinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni554CKEVHg
>>2637278>>2637279I'm so excited. It makes me want to watch those movies. I only saw the first one, and only in the theater when it originally came out. I remember liking it.
>>2637292There's a good argument for the second one being better than the first. Third isn't as good but it's still decent.
>>2637279>Final part of the coaster has the biggest drop immediately followed by an airtime bunny hopNeat, one of the things I remember reading in an interview in John Wardley is that he really hated coasters where the final stretches were boring flat bits just aiming to get the car back to the station as easily as possible so he'd always try to have a surprise element at the end.Looks like they flattened out a second airtime hill, maybe they were worried people would come off the ride puking up.
Which of the smaller SF and CF parks do y'all think will get closed or sold off post-merger? I think these parks are in danger:Frontier City - Small park with shit attendance owned by EPR.La Ronde - Low attendance to population and owned by EPR.Darien Lake - Low attendance to population and owned by EPR but makes money off campground and concerts.Michigan's Adventure - Low attendance, low population, people go to Cedar Point or Great America but northern MI has nothing comparable so who knows.Valleyfair - Terrible attendance to population ratio. Short operating season. Little to no investment in almost 20 years.Parks with disappointing attendance that could go either way:Discovery Kingdom - Like CGA, this park might not even be profitable because of the area it's in. Attendance is disappointing relative to the population. Maybe it will get a boost when CGA closes but that's still a ways off. Animals add to operating expense.St. Louis - An original SF park. Victim of a shrinking population that doesn't appear to be on the upswing. Probably safe but who knows.America - Low attendance to population.Parks that are probably safe:Great Escape - Overperforms for its local population, in a resort area, has a popular hotel with indoor waterpark.New England - Good attendance to population ratio.Fiesta Texas - Good attendance to population ratio and in a region experiencing population growth. SF has been investing in it for the last decade, safest on the list.Worlds of Fun - KC might be an up and coming area in terms of population growth and there is now going to be that Mattel park nearby. Saw recent investment from CF after years of not much.Dorney Park - Does very well considering the competition and it's getting investment after years of nothing. CF was investing until they bought the Paramount parks.All the rest I say are safe. Not sure about waterparks, they're a bit different.
>>2637473Correction, La Ronde is owned by Montreal. Not EPR. Still not owned by SF, they just operate the park.
>>2637473This sounds like doomposting but I think the new company is going to enter a long slow decline, with a park being divested every few years to raise capital. Discovery Kingdom is the obvious choice for a first-round sale as California is a challenging state to do business in, it's a small park, it has no room to expand, and the land has relatively high value. In the long run I'm not sure whether this will lead to stabilization after some contraction or an outright failure, with parks being pieced out to new operators.Unrelated, before the merger SFI was in the process of outright purchasing SFOT from its investors who technically owned the park. In that agreement the company could buy out the investors and they're in the process of getting it back under corporate control. A similar situation exists at SFOG and I presume the company will want to buy that park from its investors too. That's going to be hundreds of millions of dollars for each park, money that won't go towards new rides or improvements.
>>2637473Merlin may snap up one or two on the cheap and add a Peppa Pig world and/or Sealife center to boost the amount of families going.
>>2637497Some say that SeaWorld is the obvious choice to buy DK but that's not going to happen; that land is more valuable than the park and SeaWorld is cheap, they won't want it. DK will be gone, they'll probably sell the land and lease the park for a few years just like CGA. Six Flags America is maybe better off as real estate too. The other smaller parks don't sit on valuable land (or they don't own the land) and are probably not worth much. They don't own La Ronde and I can't see somebody taking that over before it becomes real estate. They don't own Frontier City but it's small and I can see it sticking around (the 'new' Premier should buy it since it's their baby that started the SF mess). They don't own Darien Lake and Herschend already tried running it, I can see the amusement park portion closing and nobody will care. Palace might be interested in Dorney if it was for sale. Maybe Herschend would buy the Missouri parks or Valleyfair. Valleyfair might be a good candidate for a Legoland conversion if Merlin was interested and could keep it open longer. Don't think anybody would want Michigan's Adventure, it's not near a major population area. The option to buyout SFOG is in 2027 and SFOT in 2028 and they'll do it but both CF and SF each have $2.3 billion in debt. So to go along with your doomposting, something else has to give. Probably one of the big parks. Canada's Wonderland and SF Mexico to keep things in the US? CW is very successful park that CF continues to invest in though. Knott's and/or MM because California? I can't see that.. but California is very expensive. This merger is bad idea if you're a Cedar Fair investor... too bad the SeaWorld merger never happened.
Anybody visiting Hershey this weekend? Curious how the Skyrush restraints are
>>2637085https://youtu.be/RpF-Ab9N3sM?si=gD8kPopJh8CdMxG2https://youtu.be/MWoQW-b6Ph8?si=vp-ZzdY6ev8Q5Ffbhttps://youtu.be/MaKGNNQOt5o?si=rwoCIJ8er9Bmu46Khttps://youtu.be/UZQGtnEL2xs?si=LVXa9fVzXR0NTIcDhttps://youtube.com/shorts/0OlsH3yPc2o?si=vpNjmOQrYIT65D3Ihttps://youtu.be/qKBHxP3Nl5c?si=yTfBWA5Zc0u4LqUdhttps://youtu.be/3DO0XBKDnSs?si=gZ3EHTIxnTNcFvcnhttps://youtu.be/Sa3Mkiv--6o?si=KBN0zpu0weBvrvbg
>>2637085Some of my faveshttps://youtu.be/Q4AxMruao5E?si=vGEpFgfn8xqPypKphttps://youtu.be/-GDCLStILAw?si=ZLQHzq86IjhYhAgShttps://youtu.be/MImlsJB-Nec?si=ytBEUZpOM41OS23chttps://youtu.be/D9K4TgUVI24?si=zjCVzUXvlLLT88zQLegoland is a very safe and relaxing parkhttps://youtu.be/ynlJr19JbEA?si=f1mEo4uUfPQ3sx9g
>>2637278I'm not excited about this desu. I don't know why but I always thought this movie wasn't up to Disney standard. But Disney standard these days is in the toilet thanks to liberals.
>>2637085https://youtu.be/MfQUp8muPMY?si=IbK6fErpTX4Jpda6
>>2637085https://youtu.be/_8MgtMiv9aU?si=YM82jgpZZZDdBXNv
>>2637998>>2638001>>2638003>>2638004Wow! Thanks for all these links!
>>2638005Yeah they make me happy...a mixture of memories and current rides I enjoy
>>2637144I don't think its going to be as great as they think it is. How to train a dragon wasn't that popular
>>2638013It was moderately popular and it's not like you even need to know the franchise for it to appeal.It's an island full of rideable dragons and vikings. What's not to like?
>>2638033This. It’s a good theme for a themed land even if you’re not familiar with the IP. Similar with the Secret Life of Pets ride in Hollywood, that IP is even less popular but it’s a ride with cute animated dogs and cats.
>>2638033>>2638078pic rel
>>2638001Pipeline was okay. The standing airtime was great, kinda took me by surprise even though I knew it was coming. Overall I was whelmed, thought it would be a bit better. Glad it’s there, the GP seems to like it. Maybe I have to ride it again
>>2638080Nigga look what thread you're posting in. Theme park autism is a special kind of gay, so everyone here is a fag
>>2637087There's still a lot that I'm unsold on with Epic Universe (particularly the branding, only the Nintendo area feels like it'd be relevant in a decade), but if nothing else it's the most interesting thing to happen to theme parks since the turn of the millennium.
>>2638131How would Harry Potter not be relevant?
>>2638137When was the last time it was "actually" relevant? 2 of the 3 Fantastic Beasts films bombed and that's what the entire Epic Universe land is based on, Rowling has spent the past decade building up online hatred towards her which carries over to people's enjoyment of her work (regardless of your position on it, it's real), and the only major content on the horizon is an HBO television show which just retells the same story as the original movies.
>>2638143I genuinely have no idea what planet you're living on lmao like wtf are you talking about
>>2638131The Universal Monster brand is strong enough that it will be relevant in a decade.>>2638143It's not going to be based entirely on Fantastic Beasts, for better or worse the Ministry of Magic ride is going to be set in the regular Potter time period
>>2638001Removing the Honey I Shrunk the Kids playground and not replacing it with something similar in Toy Story Land is criminal.
>>2638087Did you ride barefoot
>>2638143Do you really think that her stuff isn't enjoyed anymore??
>>2638198100% Agree!!!!!!
>>2637174Don't forget to visit put in bay while you're up there.
>>2638247No I had shoes on
>>2638143Nobody cares about her position against trannies anon. Literally nobody except autistic “people” who won’t even exist in a couple of years because they will kill themselves. That video game came out last year and sold 22+ million copies. Harry Potter is timeless. Fantastic Beasts is not but Universal changed the attraction in the land to HP. It’s more relevant around the globe than Star Wars.
>>2637085The class of 2001 America and Disney https://youtu.be/_4KjVJcpa2s?si=_Qfns6VIhVIgz1I9
Has science gone too far?
>>2638438>Guys I was at Disney on 9/11!>Please clap
>>2638446Not far enough
>>2638438>>2638448I worked the college program at MGM on 9/11. They told us not to tell the guests what happened. Like a week before hand they went over the shutdown plan but said they never had to use it. Then a week later they shut down the park. They made us wear lanyards with our ID after that. At first they were like “you might have to pay for them, Magic Kingdom got them for free but we might not have the budget to give them out for free” then they gave them out for free but I couldn’t believe how fucking cheap and jewish they were over a fucking piece of plastic and cloth
>>2638461>Making you buy your own workplace lanyardLmao, a literal humiliation ritual. I would have walked but knowing how many kool-aid drinkers work there, I imagine most would have gleefully ponied up the cash for one.
>Mandalorian coaster rumoured to be using the Tron ride system.It won't be a straight clone of the layout right? RIGHT?
New Space Mountain Tokyo confirmed as an Intamin. Track is the same as Velocicoaster so it's safe to assume a multi-launch, not sfx or controlled spinning.
>>2638412I don't really like Universal. They harassed me and my kid when I went there. No sense of the customer service that Disney has. The employees just act like ghetto thirdies.
>>2638557I don't see any track in that pic
>>2638587Bottom centre
>>2638520>Rumor for Paris>Paris getting anything that isn't just a clone or a reskinI think we both know the answer to that one anon
>>2638586Most Universal employees have worked at Disney World and vice versa. Your one bad experience is an exception and not the rule and it could happen at either.
>>2638591>centreoh, oh no. one of those.
>>2638557Sure it’s Intamin and not new-gen Vekoma? They looo similar
>>2638597Hey know, it has two original coasters plus Space Mountain! I mean, sure one of the coasters is an off the shelf layout that's used in funfairs and the other is a fucking Pinfari...Surely Disney at this point realise that Paris is desperate for an exclusive.>>2638600There's a pic of a van with an Intamin logo on the site.>>2638599Yeah, it's in the centre, in front of that uncoloured aluminium
>>2638446Oh hey that's in my country, I've been seeing ads for this weird ride all over the place. I've never been to this park actually, might be fun to check it out.
>>2638601>There's a pic of a van with an Intamin logo on the site.Let's see it
>Ass expansion intensifies...
Moving to Orlando in time for Epic to open.question to UOAP holders, is premium worth it?The only differences I see between preferred and premium:>1 free HHN ticketI'll just get frequent fear anyway>free valet and prime parkingprime sounds nice, but valet is never really free, after tip.>water park blackout dateseh. It's probably stupidly crowded at those times anyway. I can work around it>express pass after 4 PMthis one actually sounds pretty nice.Is it worth the extra $340? Do premium ever get exclusive perks outside this list?
>>2637085https://youtu.be/Tj2MJbRfCqw?si=zQYaWhdphxssb3Bahttps://youtu.be/QABMp6ybmmc?si=CXJpfNtABKdu3Bmdhttps://youtu.be/3M4HcNfVZj4?si=ClWOkqzfL-VwA838https://youtu.be/jH_UGZAbmx8?si=6GQ0aa_MHaIPT3w9
Tokyo Disneyland is going to get a multi-launch Intamin Space Mountain replacement while the most attended theme park on the planet will continue to run its 1975 janky Arrow/WED piece of shit that’s never been re-tracked despite operating almost every single day for almost 50 years
>>2638698I love the MK space mountain jank and I hope they never update it, they have tron next door for something modern
>>2638598The Harry Potter section has good service though.
>>2638700That’s nostalgia and it’s an objectively shit ride that should be demolished. NPC golems lining up for it don’t know any better
>>2638724consider killing yourself you miserable joyless faggothere it comes, go ahead and call me a shill or thoosie or some gay shit. your anger only makes me want to ride Space Mountain that much harder
How is Universal Studios? Is it worth it to visit for a week?
>>2638743Probably not a week but definitely a 2-3 days. Once EU opens you could probably justify a full week if you also do Volcano Bay.
>>2638698>Arrow>piece of shitpick one
>>2638734This.
>>2638765>only 2-3 daysSo... wtf... if you spend a week in Orlando, what do you do? Hit up BOTH Disney World and Universal?
>>2638734that queue is always so comfy
>>2638773Unironically, yes. This might be my boomer dad take, but if you really maximize it and don't stop to smell the roses, you can do Universal Studios Orlando + Islands of Adventure in a day, EPCOT and Hollywood Studios in a day, Magic Kingdom in a day, and Hollywood Studios in a day. If you really want to take your time and enjoy yourself, a day at each of the above parks, coming out to six days total. Spend the last day of the week at Disney Springs and/or CityWalk
>>2638679this will entirely depend on how you plan on visiting.going for a few hours to knock out a ride or two on a whim? get premiergoing all day long? get the cheaper one
Any HHN chads in here? Any hopes for this year? Check out the spec maps yet
>>2638734Anon, go to hell. Space Mountain is garbage. Your opinion is garbage. I like the queue and its music. I liked it better before they enclosed it. The ride sucks. It’s sucked for over 30 years. I hope they replace it with something modern and completely different so that it immensely triggers you and pisses you off. Stop with the childish “go kill yourself” jewishness in every thread. Are you the same one that said Sheikra was too intense? Don’t be such a fucking baby
>>2638773It depends on what you're doing. If you're rushing attraction to attraction all day long then yeah 3 days is more than enough if it's not retardedly crowded. If you like to take your time and relax then you can certainly stretch it out. I've been to Universal/Disney so much I always enjoy taking my time, playing golf, even occasionally heading back to the room to take an afternoon nap (especially when I'm staying at the Polynesian at Disney or the Portofino at Universal due to the ease of getting back most of the time). If you haven't been to Disney before you'd be a full not to spend at least a day or two there, there's still plenty to see and do.
>>2638679Free parking, ignoring Valet will pay for itself if you visit 10 times in a year
>>2638773Not necessarily, there is a lot of other stuff to do in central Florida besides Disney.
Arrow jank has its positives
>>2638793Current spec map looks decent, but this early they're usually only about half correct. I just hope the horror comic house rumor is true. The tribute store was awesome last year, and a house based on that could easily be one of the best of the year.
Posting the HHN spec maps for anyone who hasn't seen them, starting with Hollywood.
>>2639028And Orlando.
>>2638998Any houses you hope are being specced incorrectly right now? Anything not on the map you'd wanna see?
>>2639073Not big on the idea of Ghostbusters since it'll probably be based on the new movie, and I also don't think A Quiet Place sounds good. I'd much rather have a Universal Monsters house for the Creature and a FNaF house (I don't even care about the franchise, but I want to see how they pull off the costumes).
>>2639075I've heard rumors bouncing back and forth between Ghostbusters being a 1&2 composite house, a Frozen Empire house, or an Afterlife/Frozen Empire composite. I honestly wouldn't mind any. I would love it if they had a meet and greet with Ghostbuster characters somewhere in the park, though that might be unlikely.A Quiet Place could be interesting if they absolutely smother the place in soundproofing pads to try and muffle and dampen the house, but it could also be a huge dud.Fully agree on Creature and FNAF.
>>2638881they both have free parking. premier just has free prime parking
I want to go to Disney in my Autumn trip to Japan, I'm going for 2 months. But i don't want to go alone. What are the odds that a random Japanese chick i pick up would go with me if i tell her to?
>>2639028>>2639031Do you have the ones for Osaka?
>>2639111>2 month vacationAre you loaded, anonLet me come with you man wtf
>>2639116I can work from home and i program for a living so i have everything just automated. Add in european passport letting me stay for 3 months no questions asked. It's something i've been wanting to do. And if you're a born female girl thats not ugly sure.
>>2638001I didn't get a chance to ride Pipeline because it was closed most of the day I was at Seaworld.
>>2639120this is 4chan, I'm a fat, ugly man
>>2638796>I hope they replace it with something modern and completely differentmonkey paw curls...
>>2638013>>2638033>>2638078Don't forget that they're also doing a new live-action remake
>>2639028Going to be doing Hollywood this year after doing Orlando last year. Am I right in that it's smaller mazes with simpler theming but you're no longer doing a conga line so you get to see the sets better and get better interaction?What's the Horror tram like? It is like haunted hay ride type things or does it just ferry you to the Psycho street with stuff there?Does it get as insanely busy as the Orlando one?
>>2639140Are you serious? That sux bro
>>2639111I heard its overcrowded. I want to try Disneyland. Do they still wear masks ??I believe in freedom...
>>2639168Yeah I only saw it running for like 5 minutes.
>>2639148I haven't been personally, but I've heard the waits are even longer than Orlando, probably due to the decreased number of houses and zones to funnel people into.
I went to Universal in 2022, and didn't need express passes really, but if I do HHN next time, I think I'll definitely want the express pass. I don't like lines.
>>2639204Yeah, next time I'm going it I'm getting passes. That said, I did every maze in 1 night before 1am, helps the park completely empties past midnight.
What rides would you pitch for Epic Universe's Dark Universe?
>>2639243The rumored Creature boat ride for the expansion sounds like a great idea. They could also do a Hunchback drop tower.
>>2637473so it's just going to be magic mountain, great adventure, knott's berry farm and cedar point when all is said and done haha
>>2637513i went to discovery kingdom and great america recently. both were kind of depressing in different ways. great america because i actually felt it was kind of well run, but was on borrowed time anyway, with no new investments on the horizon. dead park walking sort of vibe but the railblazer crew was working hard like nothing was wrongdiscovery kingdom was so poorly run, with closed coasters and the ones that were open on one train ops.
>>2639416That sadly is about what I expected. SFDK sounds like a combo of being poorly run plus being in California. CGA got fucked over by Levi's Stadium but California is largely to blame for it closing. Attendance and revenue are supposed to be decent, they just don't make any money.
>>2639414When it's truly all said and done, it will be interesting to see how things wind up, like in 10 years. Some competition is on the way too. Universal's got their family-themed regional park which is probably the first of several. Multiple Mattel adventure parks. Herschend expanding Dollywood and SDC and making them into resorts. I doubt the American Heartland project will materialize but there is that too. These might not be in direct competition with the combined SF/CF portfolio but still, they will have way too many parks to be managing.
TT2 is fully functional now!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHiIch-ULhgwho is going this summer?
>>2639719I'm gonna try to go to the preview event at the end of this month, registration opens tomorrow. First time they've really showed the initial launch without edits. Our fears have come true, it is weak. From launch until the end of LSM stators it's 7 seconds like in the original animation and the initial kick isn't there. Worse than a Mack launch. Waste of double rowed stators
>>2639719That looks really cool. I won't make it this year but maybe next year.
>>2639734So many thoosies crying about this ride are going to drop it once they feel it for real...The first launch will likely feel underwhelming, going 0-70. however, going into the 2nd launch doesnt mean you are going from 70-100 in that stretch, because you go back to 0 whenever you turn around. so you will still get to fell the full 0-100 in reverse. then the final 0-120 forwards. it Will be at a slower rate, but the extra ride time, and all the extra hang time on the back spike will make this new ride way better than the old one.
>>2639734>>2639808I don't think the launches are going to be very intense, but it looks to take the top hat a lot faster than it previously did, which at least seems interesting
>>2639808That’s what I’m hoping for, a better overall ride experience. Even if the added elements are similar to Escape from Krypton (which is closed often) it’s higher, it goes forward and backwards and launches 3 times, and it still goes up and over the top hat at 120mph. It takes 9 seconds to go 0-120mph but the 0 follows a moment of weightlessness while dropping 350ft or so off the 420ft spike. Sense of speed going backward at 100mph and then forward to 120mph will be great. Just worried about the slight shakiness in the video.>>2639814Could be because they have some control over the speed because it’s LSM. El Toro Ryan said when he worked TTD the trains made it over less than 120mph
>>2639814There is a comparison POV with TTD on reddit. Starts when they both move in to position then TT2 starts the launch sequence first while TTD waits for the catch car to come back and the launch to reset. TTD launches right after TT2 comes down the spike and makes it to the top hat sooner but TT2 is flying and syncs up with it at the top.
>want to go ride TT2>remember it's in northern Ohio, the literal worst place on EarthWhen I come to power I will move the entire park to Florida where it belongs
>>2639719>>2639734>>2639735>>2639808>>2639814>>2639840>>2639870>>2639892I just made a comparison video for both launches.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOu28_i8SmUfirst launch will feel lame, but the rest of the ride will be great.
Efteling
>>2640076My nigga. What's your favorite ride?
>>2639892It would need to be on an island/peninsula surrounded by ocean for the same effect.
>>2639960It’s also flying over the top hat in your comparison. Will that be good or bad? Maybe it will cause some floater airtime. This could change when it opens obviously.
Disney announcements are really just going to be "here's some stuff that we're maybe gonna do but we also might not do" from now on huh
>>2638446Tf that's not AI?!
>>2640494This is maybe the most bullshit genuine concept art I've ever seen and that includes all the stuff from "The London Resort".>there is nowhere near enough land to do this>if they had enough land to do this they still wouldn't waste all that space>those narrow uneven pathways>they're just going to let people walk into the water?>DL is in a built up area with lots of tall hotels, sight lines?
>>2640494Bob Iger also said Galaxy's edge, new epcot, and tron are their response to epic universe
>>2640659lol, they're clearly the response to Harry Potter. Hagrids and GotG are probably the top 2 family coasters in the world but now they've got to deal with an entire park of worlds as well themed as Galaxies Edge. 'New Epcot' is just them trying to fix making stupid fucking decisions regarding Innoventions and the body pavilion.This is just cope for them not really having anything lined up. They're four years from having a clone retheme and what will probably be another trackless b-ride-pretending-to-be-an-e-ticket dark ride. Universal will have finished phase 2 of Epic Universe before they have anything built.
>>2640494Avatar is bad theme park IP, this would be a waste of space they could use for something people actually care about and obviously a lot of money. Avatar is box office gold but as I've said before, it has no cultural impact and doesn't move merchandise. Avatar was their (second) answer to Wizarding World and after acquiring Star Wars it doesn't make sense to continue building theme park attractions for an IP that nobody cares about outside of a movie theater.>>2640590They have giant parking lots next to the hotels across the street that are never full and have been slated for expansion for over 20 years. I think back in the 90s these were a campground and some motor lodges that they bought and demolished. And while DCA and the garage were being built they were used as parking for for DL.>>2640659That's funny if true. Galaxy's Edge is mostly a dud and it was technically their response to Diagon Alley. New Epcot is a mixed bag and Epcot really needed some new stuff, new stuff was long overdue. Tron and Cosmic Rewind are arguably an answer to Hagrid's and Velocicoaster. I think internally they're working on their real answer to Epic Universe but none of these are it
>>2640671They've already shown off the expansion using those. It's roughly the size of DCA (if you removed the lake) and they were intending to split it between the two parks. Some of the concept art does hint towards a third gate though.I got the impression from the various tidbits they've said over the last couple of months that they intend to put Avatar land inside existing DCA land.
>>2640673Looking at it again, that could be a more water filled Avatar land with a big rocky centerpiece so maybe >>2640494 is genuinely what they intend as a starting point for the design. Huge space for what would probably just be FoP and the water ride though (looks like they're going to put a few minor attractions in the narrow bit next to the hotel). They've specifically said that Fantasy Springs in Tokyo is a potential inspiration for the DL half of the expansion.
>>2640674They should really make something new and stop cloning shit that doesn't need to be cloned. They don't need two FoPs. One at their global destination resort is plenty.
>>2640671>That's funny if true. Galaxy's Edge is mostly a dud and it was technically their response to Diagon Alley. New Epcot is a mixed bag and Epcot really needed some new stuff, new stuff was long overdue. Tron and Cosmic Rewind are arguably an answer to Hagrid's and Velocicoaster. I think internally they're working on their real answer to Epic Universe but none of these are itI think Bob was being retarded with his answer. The $50 gorillion they're supposedly investing is their real answer to EU. He was pretending like they were being proactive when in reality due to their own incompetence they're being completely reactionary. I think they vastly underestimated how big and now much investment Universal was willing to put into EU and now that the hype is starting to build, mixed with how pissed people have been at Disney lately, Bob is shitting his pants a little bit and knows they've fucked up by not doing anything that last few years.
>>2640699I recently learned that Bob Iger was the executive who ruined Twin Peaks when it was on TV. He's the one who insisted they reveal who killed Laura Palmer, and his dumbass creative input is what lead to one of the best and most innovative TV shows of all time dropping in the ratings and getting canceled after its second season. Imagine making a colossal fuckup like that, and then feeling comfortable making important decisions for Disney, Star Wars, and Marvel, the biggest and most iconic brands in the world. You see all the anger and displeasure directed at Disney these days and it's incredible how easily it all could've been avoided.
Halloween Horror Nights dates are out. Starts on Friday, August 30 this year.
>>2639175Tokyo Disney has a relatively low ticket cap to keep crowding down, but I have no first-hand experience there. It could be more likely the park sells out in advance for the day you want, than for it to be packed. But again I don't actually know, that's just how it seems. Even if it's packed it's Japan, not Amerimuttland.Masks have not been mandatory in Tokyo for quite some time now.
Do any of you think or read about anything besides Disney
>>2637085https://youtu.be/TYUjZFC0VHc?si=iU_t3q-tnfl_qRJOhttps://youtube.com/shorts/PXT73e9F6vw?si=AFJFOTXeMuQ-kuCehttps://youtu.be/CYyYHStYLNQ?si=OW7WEf9ZwMX9BaYwhttps://youtu.be/3L-37cSr4n0?si=hzeL-MqxqOiDRi5Zhttps://youtu.be/STHjxecFBqY?si=5hXN36lPFMFJ_tB7https://youtu.be/E_AZNngUEZQ?si=QzzpWQQL7AhVt1sshttps://youtu.be/UeRYteH2-Dw?si=PgG0NnImMP0oXa1Uhttps://youtu.be/mMEed3OdU3A?si=Wy2CTJ1VU5FjFpnDhttps://youtu.be/N9KmU8h9RjM?si=00w5bqV0qHPCvvKlhttps://youtube.com/shorts/xmnOVIXxTWM?si=SnvEMQ-UaaPpDgBuhttps://youtu.be/xON7Y-wceRA?si=YrI-5cl4F-XLUlTphttps://youtube.com/shorts/067DSfYBlzk?si=QIo_sf1aVx-9dV6rThis ride was my favorite although someone once stole my purse on it! it always has a short wait and is very funhttps://youtu.be/Oz2RGLXIdR8?si=__akwcqb6UylERckhttps://youtu.be/Oz2RGLXIdR8?si=u-R7sDtfjx8aIfvg
>>2640802Of course. European theme parks are based but I think there's not as many europeans here as americans, so discussion is heavily skewed.
>>2640811I'd like to hear about them. Anything besides Disney at this point is refreshing.Kind of weird how the pov's for F.L.Y. were taken down quickly after being uploaded (I stopped trying to find one a long time ago, idk if they still flag them for removal or not) and no one mentions that ride at all now. Flawed strategy by that park.
>>2640811I'd love to go to Europe someday and visit all these places. Dream trip for me. And to Tokyo Disneyland.
>>2640817This one has been up for 6 monthshttps://youtu.be/c-30ewAQIrk
>>2640827huh, it's much more of a family coaster than I expected. Looks pretty comfy and that theming and scenery is integrated well.>>2640811The problem is that these threads don't have enough people in them to really get a sustained conversation against any parks that aren't internationally popular.For example my local park (Thorpe Park) is about to get an insane coaster like nothing else in the world but there's barely a murmur here because there may be 1-2 other Brits here. The most you get it "looks neat, shame I'll never visit that park" from non-Brits.
>>2640858>there may be 1-2 other Brits hereCan confirm, I am one of those other Brits.The new coaster seems cool but it should have been built way sooner. The last coaster Thorpe Park got was in 2012 with The Swarm and since then the only new additions have been lame flat rides (Ghost Train, Angry Birds 4D, Black Mirror Labyrinth, etc)
>>2640858That looks pretty cool dude. Sorry I haven't been to any European parks but maybe someday.
>>2637085https://youtu.be/oQ2vF-vJ_bk?si=w0Cc0khmFPHTVAnJ
>>2637085https://youtu.be/8SWfRme_8MA?si=nB_8hXlXSGBbbgwW
>>2637085https://youtu.be/r9VvQAZcu1c?si=8Akj1awD4flAFdiO
what was the last high-profile theme park to open before Epic Universe? Was it DCA?
>>2640802I live nowhere near Florida or California so I don't give a shit about their parks. I've been to Disney World twice in my life and have no interest in returning. I'm way more curious about parks near me like SFGAm, Valleyfair, Lost Island, Adventureland, Cedar Point, or Kings Island.
>>2640938In the US, it was DCA, but if we count overseas, I think it's Universal Beijing.
Universalchads, if I decide during my trip that I want to go to Halloween Horror Nights, can I reasonably expect to still be able to get an Express Pass the day of? I don't think I'd want to go without one.
>>2640953they can sell out, but you can try it. actually cheaper to get a frequent fear pass than it is for 1 night + express, if you have multiple nights available...
>>2640983I doubt it. It would be a pretty busy week down there with lots of park days. HHN would be something I'd squeeze in. But I'm only interested in going if I can get the express pass. I don't want to have to carefully plan and wait in long lines all night. I'd be willing to pay a lot more to have an easier experience.
>>2640940Is Goliath rough? Only topper I've ridden is Outlaw Run. People say it's rough but I thought it was more than fine. Not as smooth as I-box but smoother than the smoothest wooden coaster I've been on (Mystic Timbers). I don't want them to make it I-box, the rawness and the jackhammering is part of the experience
>>2641152Not really. I've been on it plenty of times, and it's been pretty smooth, but I finally got a back row ride last year and felt a little bit of bumpiness but nothing that detracted from the ride experience.If you want rough, Hades has you covered. It would easily be one of the best woodies around if that shitty park actually got it retracked.
>>2641168No thanks. I've seen enough complaints and videos about Hades 360's roughness. Not unless they fully re-track it (which they probably won't). I do want to get to SFGAm one of these days, they seem to have a good mix of everything even if they lack a stand out coaster. I would say it's an underrated park because MM and SFGAdv get talked about the most. Mt Olympus, forget it. I like waterparks and the Dells are waterpark central, but I think I'd rather make the trek to Schlitterbahn Galveston even though it's several hours farther.
>>2640953They can sell out or massively ramp up in price. They are worth the price if you've only one night to do things though.
>>2641254Yeah they're definitely expensive, but like you said, if I'm only going to have one night, I want to make it as stress free as possible and make sure I have the best experience possible.
>>2641284As I said earlier in the thread, I got every maze done with 90 minutes to spare, past midnight most of the queues plummet. We were completely knackered though, you do an absolute shit ton of walking (had a flight the next day too). I would definitely pay for the pass next time to make it much less intense and have more time to enjoy the snacks and drinks. Couldn't actually book the express pass online, I think they actually secretly block overseas visitors from booking them, When I went to book in the park, the prices doubled. Couldn't justify the $500 for the two of us on top of the tickets.
>>2641287>I would definitely pay for the pass next time to make it much less intense and have more time to enjoy the snacks and drinks.That's what I'm thinking. I know that if I put in some effort I can do it all in one night without a pass, but I just don't want to work that hard. Good tip about raising prices. I guess I better decide if I'm going and buy my ticket and pass soon. Interesting about blocking overseas visitors. Here in America it looks like it's an option.
>>2641298Didn't explicitly block it but no third parties offered it and the website just gave a non-specific error which is why I think it's a secret policy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e1R2vUORGI&t=460s7:40 showing the new animatronics in action. They're seriously impressive but Tiana still looks off model and furry skin is a weird choice for a croc.
>>2641315At least they aren't relying on those projection faced animatronics.
>>2641345He died for this.
>>2641315It's hard to get excited over cool Disney animatronics cause im scared they will go the way of disco yeti >furry skin is a weird choice for a croc.I assume they're limited by the materials that can withstand constant bending while looking good. A vinyl would be more reptilian but it would probably be too thick and wrinkle. Tiana still looks great though
>>2641596Their complex animatronics with a lot of articulation are impressive when they work, however, they seem to spend more time down than they do working. If simplifying them meant more reliability, I would prefer that. I’m surprised they didn’t install something like projections for the Yeti figure to give an illusion of movement rather than leave it static and flash a strobe light all these years. When it worked it was really impressive and the room was lit up like an ice cavern
New Legoland Windsor coaster opened today, first PoVs are outhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKUa43xvRm8Not earth shattering but it's got a decent bit of speed and the racing interactions are nice. Should also have a decent capacity which is needed given how insanely busy the park gets.
>>2641759Kinda cool for a Zierer junior coaster.. being a shuttle coaster and the racing aspect. Our Legoland parks (US) don’t get very busy. The Florida one has the infrastructure to handle crowds but it’s a hike from Orlando and there is too much competition.
>>2641791Probably the only park that gets to capacity outside of events in the UK. Doesn't help that it's got a load of slow loading, low capacity rides.
These threads are pretty pathetic. One of the greatest rollercoasters of all time, Nemesis has been reopened since the 16th of March and no one in these threads have mentioned it a single time. Bunch of uncultured tasteless Amerimutts. Sad!
>>2642240More specifically, Floridians.
>>2642240Didn't they rebuild it just as it was before?
>>2642240Why should I care about coasters in the third world?
>>2642246>>2642240Why are you here? Nobody cares about your shithole's attempts at coasters no matter how much you spam and complain about it STFU and admit you're too poor to go to Florida
>>2637085https://youtube.com/shorts/1vNfBz-BUWo?si=nzdxGWLf__DoYdYh
>>2641759Looks depressing and gray. In Florida they respected local history and the weather is always beautiful with short lines.
>>2642240the only thing interesting about alton towers is that the google streetview guy walked into a tree
I truly feel bad for Australian and British coaster fans, they don't have much going on. At least in the UK they can easily visit European parks. I suppose Aussies could visit parks in Asia but that still seems expensive and annoying
>>2642240It looks comically stupid with that paint scheme. It’s also massively overrated as is the ride model. A re-tracked 90s B&M invert is a big yawn for me. This one is only noteworthy because of its theme and because it’s not tall (because Alton Towers) and has a different sequence of elements from the norm because of it. The flaw of every B&M invert is they suck unless you sit in the front because you can’t see anything. It is also an extremely common ride model found in practically every park (and the ones without it usually have an SLC)
>>2642529>The flaw of every B&M invert is they suck unless you sit in the front because you can’t see anything.They really do suck in that respect. For inverts 2-across seating is the way to go.
>>2642547>For inverts 2-across seating is the way to go.totally agree, the new gerslaugher infinity inverted coaster feels incredibly open, easily the best trains for inverts that ive been on. i think wing coasters fix a lot of the problems with inverts and still give a similar feeling of them while having a better experience for head / feet choppers because you can actually fucking see where the track is going
Fantasy Springs needs a fast pass to enter around opening. For some reason the only ride that needs a fast pass to ride is Tinkerbell's Busy Buggies but given it only uses 4 seating vehicles the capacity for that may be shit.The PeterPan ride needs 3D glasses which makes it likely it's a Ratatouille style ride. Rapunzel's boat ride is a high capacity boat ride, hopefully it'll be a similar level to Shanghai Pirates
>>2642728Rapunzel pub place looks like it has fun food
>soda comes with a star that dissolves into glittering 'fairy dust' It's simple but I love shit like this and Flaming Moes (just wish the flavour of those wasn't so generic)
>>2642240Imagine having your country's star coaster be a glorified Batman clone with rockwork. LMAO couldn't be me.
>>2642748Yeah, should have built a coaster in a car park instead.>they didn't even erase the lines
>>2642261>>2642300>>2642529>>2642748Poor little Amerimutts seething. Stick with your soulless ride, your parks lack the soulful comfy theming of UK parks. Sad! https://vocaroo.com/1hg5FRVGzJmf
>>2642782Alton Towers is a cute park but the height limit holds it back. The smiler accident was third world tier. And the ride that put them on the map was a shitty vekoma corkscrew clone that I rode when I was 8 at Boblo in Canada and it sucked. It had a very loud light motor you could hear from the park entrance
>>2642728From what I understand, Peter Pan's the same new ride system that Avengers Campus is getting with that "Versus King Thanos" thing.
Fun question: What is the fastest accelerating coaster in the world?
>>2642794I honestly don't care. That's one of the weakest marketing gimmicks in the industry
>>2642797Agreed. Although I never rode Dodonpa, Maxx Force, Xcelerator, TTD, Kingda Ka, Storm Runner, etc. don’t ‘feel’ any different to me. Nor do they ‘feel’ any different than the Flights of Fears or Rock and Roller Coaster despite the latter two pulling less Gs and having less intense launches; once you’ve don’t a few of these launches they’re all kind of the same and don’t ‘feel’ like anything. They’re still fun. Mack launches are still slow and weak. But a launch is a launch. I doubt the GP will even notice TT2’s first launch is weak
>>2642753Kek. That really sucks.
>>2642753With Cedar Fair calling the shots I hope they clean up these parking lot coasters. Dominator at Kings Dominion is a parking lot coaster but they landscaped underneath pretty good. Six Flags parks don’t even bother to cover up the paint showing the parking lot spaces. They spend millions on these B&Ms and can’t even fucking hide the parking spaces
>>2642814It doesn't matter if it sits on asphalt or a clear-cut lot with grass, it looks low effort either way. Pantheon is a prime example.
>>2642814SFGAm and SFGAdv both landscaped over their parking lot coasters.
tron canopy became a solar eclipse filter
>>2642815There was at least an attempt with Pipeline. They blew their load on the coaster itself with Pantheon. Discount Velocicoaster, no budget for theming whatsoever aside from some flags that were probably recycled from the ones Cheetah Hunt’s windcatcher tower used to have. I wish Universal would buy them instead of that jewish investment firm who owns them
do you guys think Ka will be nerfed like TTD anytime soon
>>2642833>They blew their load on the coaster itself with PantheonThey really did>>2642845Remains to be seen but if Top Thrill does well over the next season, the advantages will become too great to ignore.
>>2642794Officially it's now Stealth at Thorpe Park. People debate it though because Maxx Force has non linear acceleration so has a higher peak but if you take into account instantaneous acceleration it's near impossible to measure or be sure that there's not some obscure coaster somewhere that beats it for 0.1 seconds.
>>2642791Will be interesting to see, the current trackless system just isn't good enough for Spider-man type rides on its own (with proper motion Ratatouille would be far better).It's notable that they haven't really promoted a single ride as being the star attraction, if that Magic Kingdom expansion happens, I hope they take a similar approach with 3-4 solid rides rather than focusing on 1 major ride that they then have to do boarding passes for and it has minimal effect on crowding.
>>2642240>Nemesis has been reopened since the 16th of March and no one in these threads have mentioned it a single timeWhat is there to say about it? Like I live in the UK and I don't really care that much about it just being retracked. I doubt these threads made much uproar when the Hulk Coaster was retracked either.The most interesting thing about "Nemesis Reborn" is that they used it as an excuse to finally refurbish and reopen the Nemesis Sub-Terra drop tower dark ride which had been SBNO since The Smiler incident in 2015.
>>2642958>2 hour waitjesus...That said, I pity anyone foolish enough to do Alton Towers on Easter Sunday given what it's an unofficial day for.
Energylandia worth going to in Poland?
>>2642983Megacoaster, multi-launch, RMC, an insane watercoaster plus a solid line up of family rides. Seems like a great park.Plus it has a crazy caterpillar.
>>2642845I think all the Intamin hydraulic launch coasters are on borrowed time. Some will get removed, others will get an LSM conversion. I think Ka will likely get the TT2 treatment but they’ll have to move some stuff to make room for a spike. Intamin probably has their own “kit” for these conversions and they did bid on the TT2 project but CF went with the lower bidder and probably got some flats and the wild mouse added on for it. If they’re pleased with TT2 I can see the merged Six Flags doing the same but it would be interesting to see what Intamin’s take is
>>2642958Nemesis is a world class rollercoaster, one of the greatest of all time. Hulk Coaster is trash. >how do we theme a hulk coaster? >let's make the track greeen!Brilliant, pure brilliance.
>>2643058>Nemesis is a world class rollercoaster, one of the greatest of all time. Hulk Coaster is trash.either way a retracking is still not much to talk about.
>>2643058The launch tube is supposed to be a gamma-ray generator or something too.
>>2643058I don't think anybody here has mentioned Loch Ness Monster getting retracked and added theming either. Not that the two are comparable, but Nemesis is still just a 30-year-old B&M invert with a unique layout. If it were located in the US I don't think people would care about it as much.
>>2643084I wonder if the LNM retrack will include any reprofiling to smooth it out
>>2637085https://youtu.be/yJ5iWoBwY30?si=I8omosZVkDPOP7r9https://youtu.be/GVu8NhaiHAo?si=1SApkXKexGSWTtYchttps://youtu.be/6zbdmHJXhTw?si=6siZvAA_sv7QrNTz
>>2642748I feel sorry for him. At the very best, he'd be ashamed, and at the least, he'd spew out angry copes.
>>2637085SeaWorld Dubai looks frikkin amazing https://youtu.be/M2GjIodfUOI?si=L9d3ALAODgJhtlHADisneySea in Tokyo looks awesome https://youtu.be/RAHePU58tYg?si=6BO-9wH32qSpsNQc
>>2643087Doesn’t look like it, looks the same. They replaced almost 1/3 of the track (about 900 ft). Premier is handling the track but the steel manufacture they’re using used to make Arrow track. I’m all for re-profiling where it makes sense but purists wouldn’t like it. And I would hate if such an idea caught on and Cedar Point reprofiled Magnum’s triangular airtime hills.
Here is a size comparison of all the Florida parks.Epic universe looks to be one of the largest.Sure, you could say epcot, animal kingdom, and busch gardens are bigger, but so much of that is from lakes and safari.
>>2643269To be fair a lot of Epic's plot is just expansion pads
>>2643269The more space, the better the experience. Overly crowded ruins it imho plus people are wanting to save every last penny
>>2643352To be fair, so is Epcot’s. Half of World Showcase is expansion pads with temporary structures like trailers used as office space. Plus they have entire giant pavilion spaces that are unused (Wonders of Life aka “Play”, that millennium pavilion, arguably the Odyssey, most of Journey)
>>2643197>DisneySeaFinally heading there next month after needing to delay my trip to Japan by four years thanks to COVID. Can't fucking wait. Might hit up Fuji-Q while I'm there too, but I'm not certain on that yet.
if Disney is gonna start catering to adults then they might as well go all the way and have their fifth gate go toe-to-toe with Magic Mountain and Cedar Point
>>2643716That's based man. Take lots of pictures and give us your impressions and any suggestions you learn from your trip.
>>2643722I went there in 2007. Never really felt a need to go back until Fantasy Springs, but I would visit anytime if money were no object. Since I went in 2007, they only really added clones (toy story mania and Soarin).I want to go again in 2025 after the Fantasy Springs hype dies down. I also want to spend more time in Tokyo Disneyland since we treated it as an afterthought last time. Definitely want to ride their splash mountain
>>2643716Nice, anon, I hope you have a great time. Definitely smart to go right before Fantasy Springs opens, there might be lower crowds since locals might be waiting for it to open
>>2643716You should post some photos here. 4chan made me really want to go to Tokyo
>>2643716You only going to Tokyo? Me and the family are planning to go around the start of fall and I have a couple questions about Disney Sea and USJ
>>2643757I really want to go but Tokyo is expensive and needs lots of planning and the short notice you have to get tickets is a bitch.
>rumours the "Earth to the Moon" theming of Space Mountain paris will be returningget hyped.
>>2643722Will do.>>2643984Didn't plan it that way, but I'll be getting there the week before it opens. Hoping for the crowds to be low because of that. I'll be keeping an eye out for soft openings too, but I'm not expecting anything.>>2644044Only Tokyo and some day trips on this trip. Airfare was nuts, so I didn't want to shell out for the increased train tickets to Osaka/Kyoto as well.
>>2644049That and Japanese ops and dispatches are very slow leading to much longer lines than there should be. Plus I hear it’s inappropriate most of the time to request a row.
>Walt Disney Studios Park is going to be renamed to "Disney Adventure World" when the Frozen area openschrist
>>2644258That's the absolute worst name they could have chosen
>>2644263Remember when they were considering renaming Hollywood Studios to Disney's Cinemagine Adventure or Disney XL?
European parks are teeming with soul. Europark and Efteling are kino
>>2643718All the coaster companies would rip them off if they made a coaster park. Mack charged them something like 4x the price of Time Traveler for Slinky Dog. Just for the coaster. I don't know how much just the coaster was for Cosmic Rewind but $500 million seems like overkill. Yeah they had to pay the actors but it's like 90% screens and projections
>>2644258I get they've basically abandoned the studio film but I think you could pick 10 people off the street and they'd come up with a better name for the park. Not to mention it's already been done in a less cringe way.I don't even think it justifies the name. You've a vaguely Pixar area, Avengers campus and even after the expansion... A Mary Poppins walkway with a random cheap Tangled ride leading to a long walk to get to a single Frozen ride.>>2644330Disney overspend on R&D massively and are just completely bloated, I'd imagine that stretches to their demands on the coaster manufacturer too with them constantly bugging them for minor unique features that they need to make from scratch. There's also the fact that they need ultra high capacity rides that operated year around with downtime needing to be at an absolute minimum.I know people criticise the screens in Cosmic Rewind but the ride itself is hugely premium. The ride queue (that you annoyingly can't even really see), the pre-show, incredible complex zoning that's also incorporated into the ride experience (watch videos of what the ride does if there's a delay on the launch and transport hill). It's also an insanely huge coaster with a new ride system tuned specifically for Disney.
>Evermore is deadRest in piss
World of Adventure announcement vid: https://youtu.be/XPXTn-uJNVs?si=clnWy_fMi_QnJhBHNotable things:>Redesigned entrance where they've replaced the generic burger place with a nicer looking restaurant with hopefully less terrible food.>Announcement for stuff after frozen "soon" (guessing D23)>still no opening date for Frozen Stuff>Frozen Ever After looks like it's confirming creepy projection faces and not upgraded animatronics
>>2644342Also a Tangled spinner
>>2644344Yep, was just about to post. Was previously announced but they hadn't shown it off until now.So fucking bland and right next to the Cars spinning ride. Even for a cheap filler ride they could have done something better than this.
>>2644258>>2644342Wait what the actual fuck. That's just bizarre. At least this means they're gonna put more effort in I guess? Hopefully they don't disappoint with the post-Frozen stuff
>>2644336I enjoyed Cosmic Rewind the ride, but I wasn't impressed with the queue. It was so forgettable that I don't really remember it. Same with the pre-show which was almost all screen. I was surprised there were no animatronics. The one time I rode it we waited at the top of the lift hill for a while and the black guy kept making talking and making jokes while we waited for our turn to go into the launch area.People gave Universal shit for years for using screens and those same people don't seem to care when Disney does it. Somebody on wdwmagic pointed out that Rise was half screens and projections, and that triggered a few people into responding in disagreement... but it is largely a screen ride. Even the storm troopers on the ride are 2d projections. Rise looks a lot more expensive than Cosmic Rewind or Tron, but the latter two have the same price tag. Speaking of Tron, it's short but it's a good ride too. It's also screens and mirrors and projections but it looks like Tron.
I'm glad I'm not a Disney sperg and have rides I can get excited about that aren't tame as hell family coasters & boring kids rides
>>2644346DLP is definitely the redheaded stepchild of the parks division. I think the biggest problem is the fact Disney put it in fucking France, because the French are certified communist retards that only care and wine and cheese. They should have put it in Italy or a more common "vacation" area (think Florida of Europe). Fuck the French.
>>2644372They got arrogant after Tokyo, combination of the French being the French and investors who had no real passion and refused to pour enough money on it when it wasn't an instant success.
>>2644338I live pretty close to this, but it always looked so corny, that I never cared to check it out lol
>>2644366And regional parks have better kids rides than Disney. Kids have more fun marathoning flat rides than riding Disney rides. Not to say they don’t like Disney rides, they’re just not as fun to kids. Maybe for older kids and teens who don’t like thrill rides.
>>2644360>Somebody on wdwmagic pointed out that Rise was half screens and projections, and that triggered a few people into responding in disagreementI don't even know how anyone would disagree with that. One segment of the ride is a literal simulator and 2/3 of the preshows have no animatronics at all.
This area has serious potential to be absolutely incredible
Guys, would it be really lame to go to Halloween Horror Nights by yourself?
>>2644453It's lame to go to period. Halloween shit is no different than capeshit or Onions Wars
I AM SICK AND TIRED OF DISNEY PARKS CONCEPT DRAWINGS. PLEASE STOP
>>2644453Ran into a dude who was there solo last year since he was a remote worker in one of the queues, and he was pretty chill. Next day there was a boomer woman who was also solo and talked with my gf and I for the three house queues we did during early entry. Doesn't seem to be too uncommon, though I imagine it could be boring standing in line. I'm sure there are groups that organize to get solos together as well if you really want to be with others.
>>2639960I just heard TT2 has metal detectors BEFORE the line, and doesnt even give free lockers...What a joke
>>2644680Pretty shitty if true. Maybe they’re copying Six Flags since they’re merging (El Toro has paid lockers and metal detectors). They had plenty of time to design a two sided free locker system like Steel Vengeance too.
>>2644680>>2644701This is the result of years of retards recording with their phones and having other crap with them that they don't secure. I dislike it as well but it's not hard to see why parks are going that way.
>>2644711That and after the accident they don't want anything flying from the train. Even though the accident was a flag plate from the train itself and not a phone. Phones are a lot bigger than they used to be, I'm okay with enforcing no loose articles but not charging for lockers and being without your stuff hit for 3-4 hours
>>2644720>and being without your stuff hit for 3-4 hoursHaving lockers for free would be ideal but can you really not go that long without a phone at a theme park?
>>2644725I can but most people can’t
>>2644720>>2644725its not just about "I need muh scrolling and freemium games!"if you are split up from your friends in the park, that is an incredibly long time to not have any contact with your group, or anyone else.not to mention, the 'not free' part means TT2 is essentially going to be an up-charge attraction
>>2644889>that is an incredibly long time to not have any contact with your group, or anyone else.People went to theme parks without them for decades. You'll survive.
>>2644366Are ya?
>>2644889I got a cellular watch. It comes in handy in these cases and they allow it through the metal detectors (at least on Steel Vengeance they allow it). It can (talk to) text and call without my phone
>>2644049what do you mean by short notice to get tickets? When i went years ago I just went to the ticket booth and bought them. have they changed that? is there a possibility you book your flight and you get there and can't buy tickets?
>>2645605The park limits capacity as it was getting too overcrowded and they wanted to encourage a more even spread of visitors throughout the year. They only open up tickets and hotels something like 3 months in advance.
Hey Florida bros,I'm moving to Orlando later this year. Planning on picking up the Premier pass to Universal, Platinum pass to Seaworld, but when I look at disney, I will probably get the lowest tier.It looks like the only difference in disney pass tiers is the number of blackout dates, and I'm fine just going to universal/seaworld during busy times, so I don't even care about the blackouts.Am I missing anything here? is there more reason to upgrade?
>>2646012Nah you got the gist of it. I'd also like to add a note for everyone else, the platinum pass for Seaworld/Busch Gardens is crazy good value. My personal favorite.
>>2646016Awesome.Yea, I've been looking through the seaworld passes, and noticed platinum is barely more expensive than the gold pass with 4 parks, and I've been amazed by how much I hear you get for free throughout the year.Really excited to live right in the middle between all these parks, 5-10 minute drive to all of them, picking a park to drop by and hang out every evening...
>>2646019>5-10 minute drive to all of themAt 4am when there's no traffic maybe. It took us almost an hour to get to Universal from the Margaritaville resort a few weeks ago. From the time we left our condo til the time we stepped foot in IoA, it was almost 90 mins. Same trip we drove to BGT, parked, and were in the park in about the same amount of time. The drive back was longer but still. Traffic congestion can get really bad, especially when both tourists and employees make their commutes.
>>2646046Traffic isn't that bad there don't be ridiculous. I've never had that hard of time getting around down there ever.
>>2646046>>2646112Yeah was it spring break or something? When I was down there in September of 2022 it wasn't bad at all. We drove from our Universal hotel to SeaWorld and it was just fine and took about ten minutes each way.
Google satellite maps finally updated universal orlando. check out the better look at epic
Hyperia testing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY3vkkOctE0
>>2646155This looks like perfectly reasonable traffic to me
Anyone been to Busch Gardens Williamsburg recently? Been thinking of making a trip up there from Florida, how do you guys think it compares to BG Tampa?
One Piece in Epic for some reason
>>2646437They're currently doing a One Piece show in the Waterworld arena so it's not as weird as you'd think
>>2646440In Japan obviously.As always the Japanese themed foods are neat.
>>2646425I'm going for the first time in May myself. There's a week before Memorial Day weekend where there's three days that close at 6:00, which I assume means low crowds.
Universalchads... I think these hotels look soulless.
>>2646467I think they look okay for a value option. Stella Nova in particular looks a little too Apple Store for my tastes though.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0nTnJUn8MA
>>2646468Cabana Bay just has SO much character, and these don't at all.
>>2646467they're just value resorts at prime value prices. I predict the walls will be just as thin as the ones in endless summer
>>2646467Disney will always be the king of soul
>>2646466Damn I was actually thinking of going this Memorial Day weekend lol. You looking into going to the water park (I forget the name) too?
>>2646497No, we won't be there that long. Just a short trip. We live like five hours away but we've never been. We'll head down in the morning, spend the day there, get a hotel, then go back to the park for as long as we want the next day and then head back. I'm really excited to check the park out. It looks beautiful from the photos.
>>2646495Walking past this statue every morning is burned into my memory from when I was a child.
>>2646470oh I thought they were just value resorts like endless summer, that's lame.Hopefully the hotel being built within Epic Universe is cool.
>>2646468Remain disappointed that the quick dining is the same old "Starbucks with a few extra options", a family budget resort should really have a proper a food court or at least some proper quick dining options.>>2646644A quick check has them at $168pn in Feb, slightly more than Endless Summer but not massively, can probably put it down to being a "new and shiny" premium. Still about $100 cheaper than Art of Animation but about the same as All-Stars.On a related note, Disney have added 'free' Disney dining back to the hotel packages (for UK visitors at least) and various cashback/money off offers around various sites. Coincidentally this covers all around when Epic Universe is expected to open. Nice to see competition having an effect.>2 hour queue to get onto the Disney world holiday siteJesus...
>>2646383The pullout and turnaround after that drop is going to be forceful, but I like that long drawn out hangtime on the inversion. Mack makes interesting coasters. We don’t have enough of them in the US
>>2646556Yeah I've been looking at pics/vids online, they do a really great job at the themeing it looks like. Hope you have a great trip anon.
>>2646383>>2646745It sure does seem to lose a lot of its energy quickly, comparing the drop height to the speed cresting the following high points
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B72sfNP0mjs
>>2646749Neat but those things always fly through layouts too fast because gravity doesn't scale
>>2646495>>2646557This is the definition of soulless. Don’t confuse childhood nostalgia over tacky and cheap fiberglass statues for soul. These remind me of those cheap gift shops off I-drive and 192 except those have a kitschyness factor that these are lacking because it’s actual real Disney
>>2646112If you live down there it will be bad during peak season and during commute times for both employees and tourists. Don’t be a fucking apologist, the I-4 corridor between parks and near downtown Orlando, various stretches of 192, I-Drive between Sea World and Universal. Not to mention the cluster fuck of Universal’s parking garage during peak hours. >>2646155Yes and construction on I-4 right by universal>>2646386That would have been better. But what time was this? It’s says 10:40. The traffic sucks in general. Too many tourists and too many people have moved there. When we drove out at 4am or 5am there was no traffic but that’s to be expected. Try 8am or 9am
>>2646425We plan to go there next year. Gonna stop at Kings Dominion too. Williamsburg itself, I’ve never been and it looks fun. And it’s not far from Virginia Beach and the coast. It looks totally different from BGT and themed the Europe with less animals but more flat rides. Some of the coasters have a near equivalent (or clone in the case of Tigris) with each other.
>>2646798Wow, I didn't realize how close KD was to BGW. Interesting, might have to make a detour.
>>2646749this looks incredibly tedious
>>2646557>>2646495For me it was the Toy Story hotel we did most, but I really loved Herbie tooI miss the smell of the food courts in the morning.>>2646811Don't expect that to stop all the rollercoaster autistics.
>>2646795My point wasn't that there's no traffic, it was that all things considered for a major city that is the biggest tourist destination in the country the traffic typically isn't bad at all. Traffic is much worse in places like Atlanta, LA, hell I usually have more trouble going through Chattanooga than I do Orlando. All things considered traffic is never a concern for me down there.
>>2646752They should put some sort of gearing and momentum conservation mechanisms in it (like they put in some toy cards) so that it slows the cars down without leaving it unable to get all the way around.
>Trying to lose weight, switch jobs, do multiple big projects at work>Want to drop everything and go to Orlando ASAPI could probably pull off late May but maybe should just plan for June
>>2646826Are you the anon moving to Orlando?
>>2646829No I'm just going for a trip, I could never live in Florida I need snow
You guys ever notice that coaster enthusiasts tend to be fairly nerdy / autistic on average?My theory is that most people with big thrill seeking urges will just take up extreme sports, which are usually dangerous, and require a lot of skill and risk to do high thrill stuff.Coasters are a super safe, super easy way for anyone to seek out thrills, and most athletes will say they are too tame to find exciting.I just think its funny when anyone brags about riding extra intense coasters, as if it takes some level of skill to sit down and strap in...what are you guys' thoughts on this?
>>2646882It is autist nature to seek anything on rails
>>2646882roller coasters are complex machines
>>2646882I realized this when I realized there were young guys into it. It makes more sense to me for normal older people to care about the details, since they've watched them change over the years.definitely makes sense as an autist trap, with the trains and the intellectual properties and all.
>>2646882Anybody who is an enthusiast of anything is going to be a nerd about it. Also most sports are not extreme sports. Professional athletes visiting theme parks sometimes get scared on coasters, especially the black ones. Some coaster enthusiasts can overlap with skiing and snowboarding. It’s definitely a nerd community but compared to other nerd communities, thooseies tend to look more normal on average (but not all of them obviously)
>>2646921I've been a snowboarder for about 10 years, but I've actually been getting bored of that recently, while I am still a huge fan of coasters... Even skydiving felt less intense than some coasters I've been on lol.
>>2637473I think Dorney will do okay, high turn out and it's a smaller park in a still relatively cheap area. We got a new vertical drop coaster this season, I always wanted to visit Alton Towers to ride Oblivion after seeing it in RCT, and this will be the next best thing
>>2638734I'm glad I got to see Epcot and Tomorrowland before the year 2000, it was neat to think about what people of the 1960s and 1970s thought that the future would be. Tomorrowland should be about the world of tomorrow going off the name, but practical effects always felt more immersive, screens and CGI lack substance. A modern Space Mountain would just be a ring of motion simulators to maximize riders per hour.
>>2640858looks like a cool ride but i will never voluntarily set foot on that island unless it is to burn it down coast to coast.
>>2646495wtf is this cursed image?
Victoria and Albert's finally got a Michelin Star
>>2647049Oh that's cool.
>>2646882thoosies are the middle ground between disney adults and /xs/fags
>>2646945Skydiving terrified me until we (me and the guy I was strapped to) dropped out of the plane. It was just like floating after that until the parachute came out (which for me wasn't painful, some people say it's painful). All the major coasters and even many of the middling ones are more intense than skydiving. Skydiving is just exponentially less safe than a coaster. I've never signed a waiver like that before where I had to initial like 10 different places that said "you might die and if you do we aren't liable".
>>2646882Aside from thoosies being nerdy and on the spectrum (which is true) I’m not sure I’m following. You said extreme sports but then “most athletes”. Most “athletes” of extreme “sports”? Like 1990s/2000s X-games stuff? Or did you mean like basketball and baseball? The latter isn’t exactly a thrilling activity. Is it really about the thrills when thoosies go out of their way to seek out kiddie coasters?
>>2646979POV looks neat. It doesn't have a 2nd drop but it also doesn't have a MCBR. I wish I stopped at Dorney when I took my family to Hershey. Cedar Point's our home park and I really want to ride Demon Drop again plus they have an impulse and they replaced ours (which I loved) with an overpriced bar and a wild mouse. Next time.Speaking of Hershey, I heard so many good things and the top coasters are great. But I've heard people say "it's almost like Disney World" and absolutely not.. maybe they meant Chocolate World which is a separate attraction. My kids don't ride coasters yet and there wasn't shit to do aside from a small collection of flats (some of which are for toddlers which they've outgrown). It was just as crowded as Cedar Point except the layout is worse and the operations are terrible. It wasn't even that nice of a park, I thought Carowinds was much nicer looking and people give that one shit for how it looks. It was clean. It had roaming bands which was nice. And the Hershey characters (which are also at the free chocolate world). They don't really leverage their candy IP much. It was very disappointing aside from the top coasters.
>>2637085Absolutely beautiful day at SeaWorld . Great place for teens. Pipeline is amazing!! Sunny, breezy weather...park is really clean, new fresh and updated.
>>2647167Pipeline wasn't open last time I was there. I'm really looking forward to checking it out.
>>2646882I know a few Thoosies who became coaster fans because of roller coaster tycoon, myself included. I used to be a part of some RCT forums and even then you could tell there was a tangent of autism in the forums. Focussing on my new details of coaster reproductions, and quite literally knowing every small stat and detail of a given coaster. It’s definitely autism bait.
>>2646979I really need to get back to Dorney. Haven't been there is years.>>2647153Hershey's a bit overrated in my opinion. Like you said, the coasters are great, and I like that I can pop over to the zoo midday when the crowds get nuts. However, the water park is underwhelming and there's just not much to do outside of the coasters. I also think the layout is fucking awful, and it has gotten very crowded in recent years. It's great to have as a local park, but I can't imagine traveling across the country for it, though at least there are numerous other parks you can visit nearby on the same trip.
>>2646882Your entire framing is incorrect. >You guys ever notice that [nerds] tend to be nerds on average?Besides coasters, there is no way to get even close to experiencing those G-forces, at those speeds at those heights, unless you're like a stunt pilot or Formula One driver. Saying that "extreme sports" - which you never specify - are more intense than high level rollercoasters is a fantastical fabrication. >most athletes will say they are too tame to find exciting.Says who?>as if it takes some level of skill to sit down and strap in...It's obviously not about skill, it's about being bold enough to get onboard because plenty of people still hate extreme coasters, which is a natural fear.And like other people suggested, it's not as if the coaster nerds are exclusive to thrills or even coasters. They just like theme park stuff.The only thing you get right is that there are a lot of autistic park/ride/coaster enthusiasts. Why that is...? I don't really understand and couldn't begin to answer.
>>2646983>modern Space Mountaindidn't they just built one at Epcot?
>>2647278>saying that "extreme sports" - which you never specify - are more intense than high level rollercoasters is a fantastical fabrication.you cant really die on a rollercoaster so its hard to call it more intense than some extreme sports, sure they give those G-forces but you are 100% safe at the same time, its probably not a good comparison tbdesu
>>2647175Lines are not bad, all the shows are great, and Kraken is a great Classic coaster
>>2647281Definitely a good argument in that being a spiritual successor.It's a shame the Tokyo Space Mountain mk2 seems to be a more standard multi-launch.
>>2637085https://youtu.be/E_AZNngUEZQ?si=5NTFjx1BZrHg3-NRMy favorite ride. Its similar to Splash Mountain which is gone now. It's got the best of all worlds ...dark ride imagination, roller coaster, waterfalls. Its wonderful
>>2637085I want to go here so badhttps://youtu.be/NPfJA9i8W-o?si=JxYItW4m7eTgxoVw
>>2637085https://youtu.be/Ph-uktW-TGo?si=ZBwPmKt2nuYF_aPd
>>2637085https://youtu.be/5AU7_xSw1dg?si=IUDdTfYuP252jE5Ihttps://youtu.be/KN07GrA80xg?si=ptykDfyd3OZoz2Op
>>2637085https://youtu.be/v29giLvTzXU?si=uWVexTZV-Qe7nsrMhttps://youtu.be/XAbh1naGVG4?si=PZwiqjvrRl_BLb8Hhttps://youtu.be/ekEkDyp3lYs?si=2nlOwKtEXmCtV9zEhttps://youtu.be/glgRO5rYVmM?si=bTGXZga_W-u4Qs2thttps://youtu.be/MImlsJB-Nec?si=5nLOjtR9wtdri5bFhttps://youtu.be/AgplrEjdBPw?si=keUzkqJKfhulpKC9
I'm going to get to Lost Island this season goddamn it
>>2638734Is the video they show of the ride in the queue straight out of the 80s? Looked about that old.
>>2647374Will be going in September. Haven't been to California in 10+ years so I've a shitload of new stuff to do
>>2647522Wait lines are super short for the classic coasters, long for the newer stuff but the classics are really good rides.
>>2647522Oh I meant Wait lines in Florida are super short for the classic coasters, long for the newer stuff but the classics are really good rides. That link was in the Florida location.
>>2647522That was Florida
>>2647417It's pretty nice. I wonder when they'll make the announcement about their new ride(s). They got thoosies freaking out since they put layout diagrams for a raptor, wild moose, and Intamin ultra surf in their teaser.
>>2647621The Wild moose looks so fun but I feel they're missing a trick not designing it for 4-people-single-carriage cars (with an additional block to boost capacity if needed) and there's not getting around the supports being uglier than even Pinfari's.Hope Blackpool pleasure beach get one to put in the space of the classic "oh fuck I'm going to die on this thing" wood wild mouse that they fucking tore down overnight without warning.On that subject Blackpool Pleasure Beach announced their clone of Autopia is being torn down but at least they're holding an event this time. Makes sense, it's a terrible ride in the rain and takes up a shitload of space in one of the densest parks in the planet.
>>2647285What extreme “sports”? Spelunking? Skydiving? Not sports and thoosies are often into these things too. And you can die. Or are you referring to gay shit like motocross and snowboarding? They’re not even comparable. Extreme sports are still around but they kinda fell out of popular culture in the early 2000s. I don’t think thoosies even think about the safety aspect considering how many thoosie apologists there are for the unsafe and poorly maintained coasters at Mt Olympus or traveling Schwarzkopf loopers (or any traveling ride for that matter considering how common accidents are)
>>2647285>100% safeThe Smiler says hi. Properly maintained and operating coasters have excellent safety records but if they were 100% safe there wouldn’t be incidents. Even Disney had a derailment that killed somebody.
>>2637085First standing coaster, Pipline Surf
>>2637085Mako & Kraken
>>2647798It’s not the first standing coaster. King Cobra at Kings Island was the first 40 years ago. Intamin, Togo, Arrow, and B&M have made stand up coasters
>>2647819It is the world's first surf coaster and the first standing coaster of it's kind.
>>2647829It’s the first stand up coaster with moving seats. It has a tame layout compared to Riddler’s Revenge or the former Mantis. The moving seats during airtime moments are pretty amazing though. They’re going to use them on sit down coasters too which is probably a better use (like a hyper)
>>2647839Oh I didn't even think of that, but that's a great idea. I'll experience Pipeline for the first time later this year. Looking forward to it.
Rip Ride Rockit is big poopiehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXdbgykQKLk&list=WL&index=2
>>2647829>top leftI despise the proliferation of these "assistants" everywhere
>>2637085Ice Breaker goes backwards and forwards.Long wait tho
>>2637085Manta
>>2648133Manta entrance
>>2648133Manta
>>2647943Depends on when you go. Even then, I waited 10 mins for it on a Saturday before noon a few weeks ago. Park tends to get busiest around noon and on weekdays you can marathon the coasters possibly without leaving your seat. This one I wouldn’t marathon, it has ejector airtime that’s painful because of the trains. Mako I rode 5 or 6 times in a row, I could ride that thing all day
A friend of mine is currently working on concept art for something over at Disneyland Paris. He can't say anything about it considering the absolutely insane amounts of NDA's he had to sign, but things do seem to be moving forward there. Knowing his usual stuff, I wouldn't be surprised it's that rumored expansion of Fantasyland
>>2646826Are you me?It's almost as if I got blackout drunk, posted this, and forgot about it.
>>2648219The two rumours are the Mandalorian coaster (expanding back of discoveryland into Star Wars land) and Lion King water rides. Guessing it's one of those as you make it sound like it's matching current rumours.I've also called the Disney Ninjas on you and your friend I'm afraid.
>>2648262They seem to be on a coaster kick. So much for those coaster haters who say coasters don’t belong. I wish they would build exact clones of Fury 325 and Steel Vengence. Forget about sight lines. I guarantee you they would have long lines, further BTFOing the “coasters don’t belong at Disney” coaster haters (who are just to pussy to ride them). They could build on to BTM and put the massive RMC there as a “sequel” or more advanced BTM.
>>2648262>I've also called the Disney Ninjas on you and your friend I'm afraid.They definitely browse this thread, back when cosmic rewind was doing CM previews someone posted a pic of the queue here and it got deleted
>>2637085https://youtu.be/8HtFd9zeUWQ?si=bsPdkJCfDSRgzCQI
>>2648262Kek, I know literally nothing, but man I wish I did. Would be cool to hear about how this kind of design work gets made. Just wild guesses from reading online rumors.I'd be very confused if they make a Lion King water ride tho, seems like such a random pick. Since they love to give Paris copies from other parks, why not Enchanted Tale of Beauty and the Beast? Seems like a slam dunk that would fit like a charm.
>>2648419So they can port said Lion King water ride to Animal Kingdom too.
>>2648419Lion King was a big, big hit that still has a large fandom today, easily the most popular of the Disney animation renaissance flicks. Beauty and the Beast was a hit too but TLK was a bigger deal (not saying one or the other would necessarily be the better attraction)
>>2637085https://youtube.com/shorts/fFeGADIMDpQ?si=RXekZ1hNpop4YHmU
>>2648355>>2648463Please put a modicum of effort into posting if you're going to link yt vids, like just a sentence or two about each one. Otherwise it just comes off as spam.
>>2646012You sound like you've correctly researched it. The fast pass at Universal is worth it btw
>>2648305They browse /co/ and got pixar leaks nuked
New El Toro Ryan Problematic Coasters dropped yesterdayhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BXdbgykQKLkRip Ride Rockit. I know at least one of you likes that shitty ride. Can’t wait until it gets taken out. Shoulda been a B&M. They could have had Mako with on board audio of your choosing. In the end I’m glad Mako is at where is and I like the lift hill and brake run soundtrack
>>2648532Why should I give a fuck about what some faggot literally who youtuber says? It's a decent ride in a tight footprint, the worst thing about it is the queue videos. I'll be down there this week and I'm going to ride it and listen to Metallica on the secret menu and I'll be happy>HASTA!!!
>>2648539*dies from broken neck*
Expedition Theme Park is the most kino theme park YouTube channel.
>>2648539The queue videos are so cheesy and dated that I enjoy themAlthough the ride is on borrowed time ever since they removed a bunch of songs from the regular menu
>>2648561I'm sorry you're such a pussy your scrawny neck can't handle a roller coaster lol sorry about your shit genetics bro
>>2648570A retheme maybe, but I don't see it going anywhere anytime soon. It takes up a relatively tiny amount of real estate and that park desperately needs attractions. I'd be shocked if it gets removed in the next 10 years.
>>2647924and yet I still love it
>>2648532>They could have had MakoEqually likely it would have been like that shitty B&M at USJ, Hollywood Dream>>2648539>Why should I give a fuck about what some faggot literally who youtuber says?That's how I feel about thoosies on YT. The more popular their channel is, they more annoying they are.
>>2648804>>2648804>>2648804