inb4 white faggotry and ricecel coping

Would be nice. I'm planning a trip, north to south, 44 days in a couple of months. I plan to stop in Hanoi, Ninh Binh, Hue, Da Nang, Hoi Han, Da Lat, HCM City. I aint riding no motorbike tho and I got a suitcase to haul around so I need it ez mode enough for that, but any thoughts or suggestions would be great

>>2721782
>suitcase
why for that length of trip and moving around

>>2721783
i am staying/travelling around asia for a couple of years without returning to the west

>>2721780


Hello everyone!

I was wondering if anyone who is an expat living in Vietnam could give their insight on what it's like to live in Vietnam.

What's it like to work there/how did you find your current job?

What made you decide to move there?

What is the social scene like for an American?

I feel like I have so many more questions, but just wanted to keep it simple. I've just been curious on the topic and would love to know more!

>>2721782
Spent 6 weeks in Da Nang after getting my credit and debit cards comprised in HCM city, be careful , I don't even know how it happened. Da Nang is very nice, get up at dawn and walk along the beach it's surreal they are packed with people, swimming, dancing, exercising. You will get stalked by women hotels and food is great there and affordable

>>2721896
VN is on my list for this upcoming travel season, but after Laos. Laos is much quieter and poorer, but I think it will be much more to my liking.
The possibility of someone entering your room and taking down your card info is real, if you kept some of your cards in your luggage.
Only use your primary travel card for ATM withdrawals and trusted online purchases. Don't pay for a cheap hotel booking directly from their iffy site, don't pay with card at POS terminals.

>You will get stalked by women
ploise explain

>>2722131
they have secret facebook groups. the groups contain 100K+ female members, invite only. they dox (stalk) white dorks. cheap white dork, broke white dorks, sexpat white dorks .

>>2722139
well yeah that's every community all over the world. bitches be gossipin over white men

>>2722140
dating in vietnam is difficult mode. i prefer philppines. theres no bonus being white in vietnam.

>>2722145
never been but some lester from gta V lookin motherfucker who i worked with lived there for a year and was fuckin bitches left and right

>>2721896
>>2722069
rough. thanks for the heads up, i try keep an intermediary between my cards and anyone else as much as possible then (booking.com, grab, google pay, etc). i usually stay in decent enough hotels so we'll see
>Laos
have not really looked much into finding a decent route through, idc too much for going off the beaten path. just doing a very simple north vietnam to south vietnam and then through cambodia and back into thailand for this winter

I am bringing my Thai "girlfriend" on a holiday to Vietnam, we're going to Ho Chi Minh, Da Nang, Hanoi (day-trip to Ha Long Bay whilst there). What are some of the best things to see in Ho Chi Minh and Hanoi? I have a lot planned for Da Nang but I am not sure what to do in these 2 cities? I am talking normie stuff here, not too interested in war-related stuff, I did some of that already in Cambodia regarding Khmer Rouge and I just find it depressing

>>2722247
>have gf
>not sure what to do with her or how to entertain her
Why have gf then?

>>2722260
I mean general tourist attraction stuff, there will obviously be cooming interspersed. Was wondering if anyone had must-see attractions to recommend

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>>2721776
>Can we get a proper Vietnam thread going?

white d0rk pls go.

>>2722247
Da Nang = visit the beach, banana hill

Saigon = walking street (nguyen hue), and party street bui vien

Hanoi = old lake, lots of places to eat n drink

>>2722286
I haven't been yet but I have been planning things for my own trip so take what I say in that context

The official tourist pages feel like they're a pretty good primer
https://vietnam.travel/places-to-go/northern-vietnam/ha-noi
https://vietnam.travel/things-to-do/11-must-see-attractions-ha-noi
https://vietnam.travel/things-to-do/perfect-weekend-ha-noi
https://vietnam.travel/places-to-go/central-vietnam/da-nang
https://vietnam.travel/things-to-do/da-nang-itinerary
https://vietnam.travel/things-to-do/must-do-da-nang-an-insider-list
https://vietnam.travel/places-to-go/southern-vietnam/ho-chi-minh-city
https://vietnam.travel/things-to-do/7-must-see-attractions-hcmc
https://vietnam.travel/things-to-do/ho-chi-minh-city-itinerary

I feel bitches would like these things:

Hanoi
old quarter + dong xuan market
temple of literature
Hanoi train street
water puppet show
everyone seems to recommend a day trip (At least) to ha long bay, I will probably do route 1 on https://www.klook.com/activity/7448-halong-bay-day-tour-hanoi-halong-bay/ which is ~£32 from Hanoi

Da Nang
ba na mountains

HCM
I didn't really look into it yet but it's got some observation deck in a tall building, Mekong delta day tour

>>2722247
>I am bringing my Thai "girlfriend" on a holiday to Vietnam, we're going to Ho Chi Minh, Da Nang
If she's been to Bangkok and the beaches in Thailand she'll be bored and disappointed.

is it common to drink with locals or are most bars filled with tourists in ho chi minh city?

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So I've been to a few Japanese restaurants in Vietnam.
Why is it that the Japanese are always the loudest? I'm not sure if this is also the case for restaurants in Japan, they have a reputation of "keeping it to themselves", but I went to Izakaya/Kushiyaki-style restaurants, the two males Japanese basically talked so loud that they dwarfed the other table of 5 Vietnamese and a couple of 2 Chinese. It was bizarre.
The same also happened in a restaurant specialized in Soba, a table of 2, but they talked very loud, as if they were the only ones in the restaurant then.

>>2721776
I miss the coffee the most. Oh and buncha

I'm there for nearly 5 weeks in Dec-Jan. Good idea? I want to explore stuff from north to south, using scooters to see shit from wherever I see.

>>2724386
mate who was just there told me to try the egg coffee and salt coffee, I've had some vietnamese packet stuff with condensed milk before but these sound pretty out there

>>2724394
You're supposed to snort the coffee

>>2724392
Sounds like a good time, Vietnam gets fucking hot after Jan
And I mean FUCKING HOT OH GOD I REMEMBER THE BURNING IN THE NIGHT

>>2724394
>egg coffee
This is more like caramel dessert, and not a drink in the traditional sense. Also depends on the shop, some will, some won't sprinkle on cinnamon powder, some will be bad, and some will be good.
>salt
enhances the taste, can't go wrong with a pinch of salt

>>2724264
Its the idea that those small pocket reminded them of home so they are alot more relaxed and opened there.

>>2724392
Do remembered to avoid crowded places on new years eve, you will literally not get out until the fireworks are done shooting for at least an hour

>>2722445
>banana
it's bana and a huge tourist trap, don't bother

>walking street (nguyen hue)
nothing special, just a place to walk surrounded by a huge amount of traffic (that's their definition of "walking street")

>party street bui vien
extremely noisy and overpriced

>lots of places to eat n drink
so same as any other asian city

there are some low/mid-quality museums and that's it
Hanoi has some lakes

>>2724386
where do you get a decent black coffee?

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How can I find a young virgin vietnamese mail order bride who wants to live in Australia?
I don't got a job, but I get disability (I'm able bodied tho) and cheap rent next to family
She can go to university and work if she wants.
I'm 35, white, tall, blue eyes

Basically I just want a qt to hang out with while I enjoy neetdom, because fuck working in this economy

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>>2726202
>I don't got a job, but I get disability (I'm able bodied tho)

How fat are you? can you walk?

>>2726216
Yes I can walk, run even
I'm powerlifter mode

>>2726202
>Go to Vietnam travel thread
>Ask questions like these
and you wonder why these threads turned into shit. It's nothing but you people.

>>2726202
it's not 90s anymore
just go there and spend a lot of time in a country looking for her

>>2726227
what's wrong with the question?
it's much more interesting and relevant than "what do you think my itinerary #34239 that consist of major tourist traps?"

>>2726202
>I don't got a job,
>I get disability
>I enjoy neetdom
No one will want you

>>2726282
>white
yes they will want him
being tall, young and having blue eyes is a bonus

>>2726384
Vietnam isn't Cambodia bro they don't want your incel ass.

>>2726384
>yes they will want him

It isn't 1990 anon. They know about retarded white incels. They even call you poor "Tay Balo"

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>>2726424
Locals know about poor white dorks BEGGING.

>>2726398
>>2726424
browncel cope
yes they are enough girls for white men, they are just more traditional so you need to spend more time in the country

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>>2726448
>go to another country
>ask for local "young virgin mail order bride"
>nothing to offer but his retarded ass
>call others "browncel"
lol?

>>2726448
white d0rk pls go

>>2726458
>call others "browncel"
who else is obsessed with white men (beside brown girls)?
that Aus anon has white genes and financial stability to offer

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>>2726723
based shitposter

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>>2726384
yes. picrel.

>>2726384
His race doesn't matter if he's a pudgy, lazy slob who isn't worth an ounce of respect, like most NEETs.
>>2726424
>incel this incel that
Get over it. Being respected as a foreigner in Southeast Asia has nothing to do with how many sex you have. It's undeserved privilege that manifests contempt and disrespect from locals.

Weird thread
I was in hcmc last month and received a bunch of positive attention from normal vietnamese women
I dress nicely and am clean cut and white in my late 30s
Dating was not a big deal at all, and the women I took out for coffee or dinner were happy and excited to follow along when I brought them to my apartment after
Vietnamese women seem like women anywhere - interested in foreigners if they are charming and presented well

I don't do "no effort casual fucking", so I can't comment on that lifestyle. I enjoy dating and seduction and flirtation, and already have a handle on language barrier thanks to my time in other SEA countries.

Tldr viet women want to be charmed and for a man to make them feel pretty and desired, same as all women

Unless you're a nigger or an Indian of course. Forget Vietnam if you're looking for "love".

>>2727055
yes that's reality
by being white you're already in top 20% in terms of looks
being clean and tidy is essential everywhere in Asia
negative comments here are just ricels trying to gatekeep

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>>2727055
>I dress nicely and am clean cut and white in my late 30s

ur on the wrong forum. /trv/ is white dork central

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>>2727082
>by being white you're already in top 20% in terms of looks

yes anon, yes it is.

>>2727084
6ft white guy in a country with one of the world's shortest people would be in top 10% easily

Heard a rumour the North Face/Kathmandu factory is around Da Nang and you can pick up stuff from the local markets for way cheaper than what you'd pay retail in the West. Anyone lend credence to it?

>>2729790
Doubtful there is much local demand for winter wear in Da Nang, also doubtful that anything swiped from the supply chain would be sold at cut-rate prices to a foreigner when the Vietnamese damn well know what it retails for.

>>2726398
Cambodian men literally pimp Vietnamese girls to white paedophiles. Vietnamese are in the bottom rung of Cambodian society and are the ones being fucked by expats. Vietnamese girls and women fill Cambodian brothels.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/01/05/cambodia-wants-china-as-its-neighborhood-bully/


http://www.nypress.com/inside-k11-phnom-penhs-notorious-child-brothel/

Inside k11, Phnom Penh's notorious child brothel.
None - Do not Delete
November 18, 2003

Ushered into a sort of makeshift living room, I am told that in the daytime the neighborhood is a typical Cambodian slum, full of street vendors and the thick, mysterious flow of motorbikes. On the walls are several signs in Vietnamese, local beer ads and Backstreet Boys posters. I sit on a crusty sofa, across from the Vietnamese pimp speaking broken Cambodian to Mr. Yo.


Four young Vietnamese girls enter the room. The pajama-clad quartet storms in like the kids they are, all giggles and restless energy amidst the boredom of the metal and concrete room. The girls, who look about 10 to 12 years old, climb over the pimp like he's their father, tweaking his ears and messing his hair. One sits down next to me. There is no sign of fear or physical abuse. I try to get my head around the family atmosphere and keep the noticeably sexualized youngsters on the other side of the room.


Mr. Yo expects me to indulge. Apparently, I hadn't made myself clear.


"You don't think?this is what I wanted to do? Do you do this sort of thing?"


"Yes."


"How?"


"Because they are Vietnamese it doesn't matter," the Cambodian Yo states simply. "We wouldn't let our girls do this."

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>>2726384
in vietnam, white dorks get beat up. webm related

>>2729973
more a hipster beardfaggot than a dork, he fights worse than a girl

>>2729973
>white

>>2727082
that means i have to shave and cut hair regularly if i want to f in Thailand? But i like my beard?

>>2729790
There's definitely a bunch of TNF and Patagonia shit for sale in the local markets but it's of the standard dubious quality as that sold elsewhere in SEA. This is just the kind of rumour that they would push to get whitey to pay $20 for a knockoff fanny pack. SEA has always had a situation where a small amount of the stuff is "legit" and the rest fake, but that says more about the quality of the real deal than anything special about the shit they're selling. If you want a branded fanny pack just get one. Just don't pay anything close to half of retail.

>>2726723
tinder. a lot of girls here are surprisingly curious to try it, even virgins because they're afraid of having it in their pussy.

you aren't likely to find many female virgins on tinder

I have lived in Hanoi for over a year and I'm finally in Saigon for the first time, and I can confirm the tranny scene is WAY better down here for anyone who's wondering or who cares.

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>>2730177
>But i like my beard?

>>2730435
Based tranny chaser.

>>2721782
>HCM city
you mean Saigon you retarded faggot?

>>2724482
wow look it's a loser who can't explore responding to an even bigger loser who sucks at exploring even more!

white people of every nationality have ruined this country

you're all the same and I hate you, I'm cool and smart and interesting and you're all boring and gay and cringe and you make it more difficult for me to connect with locals for any purpose, romantic or friendly, I always have to undo several years of "wow all white tourists are horrible" trauma you fucking losers have caused before I can finally have a good meaningful conversation with a local

just stay home or go to some gay "normal" country stop fucking up the last cool place to go

if I see you faggots in a tour group wearing matching vests and helmets again tomorrow I'm going to throw a piece of rebar in the spokes of your scooter and send you off the mountain

if you're from europe or you're a slav I mean all of this exponentially more than I mean it for other better whites

>>2730494
come. enjoy the pollution, the bar girl scammers, the cancer laden food.

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A white dork and his plan 1/1

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>>2730572
A white dork and his plan 2/3

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>>2730573
A white dorker and his plan 3/3

IT white dorker and his obsession with trad wife . he will be fleeced.

>>2730478
I'm white but this is pretty based.

>>2730478
The problem is, you are boring and gay and cringe and full of egotistical delusions as well. That's why you're having difficulties connecting with locals; they've learned to judge white behavior thru experience, and yours clearly doesn't measure up to their standards. Get good, or else go on coping and seething with your manlet rage fantasies.

>schizos telling others where they can and can't travel
just like in Cambodia thread. what's the cause of such mental illness?

>>2730626
it's important to gatekeep nice things

>>2730656
>vietnam
>high cancer rate
>shit hole pollution
>gate keep nice things

anon, i ....

>>2730696
Vietnam maybe a shithole to you, but not to others.

>>2730699
Based. I'm glad Vietnam filters so many normies. Look what they did to Thailand.

>>2730699
>>2730741
Yall literally go there to enjoy a man in a dress' shithole. But you go girl you the real man traveller

>>2730762
You sound like you've never even been here.

>>2730768
He hasn't, he's a schizo who posts the same broken english insults about "men in dresses" when any coomer worth his salt knows that the LB scene in Vietnam is small and difficult and just goes to Thailand

>>2730784
Yeah I wish we had enough ladyboys here for his insult to have made sense, but alas.

>>2730784
>>2730768
>any coomer worth his salt

Lmao you losers hate yourself and have to constantly brag that you buy whores in shithole countries. Some of us travel for the culture not the pozz party.

>>2730792
Well why don't you contribute to the thread and talk about your cultural travels instead of posting schizo insults?

>>2730792
>Some of us travel for the culture not the pozz party.
It's easy to enjoy both desu. Lean your seat back nigga.

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>>2730804
Why don't you, all im see is posts bragging you buy whores ?

>>2730792
You've never traveled outside your country in your life, schizo. You hate coomer posts because they remind you that you are an incel.

>>2730626
I read the cambodia thread. Nobody said you can't go anywhere, just that it was nasty and shitty (it is).

>>2730809
yes they are just throwing insults towards those who actually travel
interesting than on /trv/ there is huge amount of people getting butthurt of others traveling to many destinations (SEA, China, Russia, etc.)

why come to /trv/ if you aren't interested in travel?
who could be behind these posts?

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>>2730830
I-is it them again?

>>2730806
Convenient non-answer.

>I didn't hire the prostitute!
>I didn't take the vaccine!
>I'm not like the other girls!

You're obviously a simpleton who is just here to quarrel, let's not pretend you're sophisticated enough to appreciate culture

Looking at Vietnam for honeymoon trip, is this a good choice? Phu Quoc looks nice. Not an experienced traveler so don't know how to plan this stuff at all, any suggestions/intel/advice?

>>2730574
whyte doooooooorrrrrrrrkkkkkkkkkkk

>>2721776
dis is ur avg white expat degen ... too poor 2 leave vietnam, complains, yet still lives in it

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>>2730971
forgot pic...

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>>2730972
ripper .... cringe whyte dork ... teaches english .... 4 years in 'nam .... complains about 'nam

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Viet food is fucking delicious. Fresh herbs, greens, spicy salsa, peanut...the complex flavor combo mogs. Definitely makes me want to make my way over there from Thailand.

>>2730946
no, Phu Quoc is plastic overpriced tourist trap
Vietnam is for those looking for adventure, for convenience and hassle-free honeymoon Thailand is way better

>>2730983
>Fresh herbs
This is one of my favorite things about it. Not just a little bit for an accent like most cuisines, but big heavy-handed piles of them. It rules.
My other favorite thing about Vietnamese food is the contrast between these fresh bright happy flavors and the funky fermented flavors, right in the same dish. Nothing like fresh oregano and mắm tôm.

>>2730993
Where in Thailand would you suggest? Tourist trap isn't necessarily bad for us I imagine because we won't be leaving the resort to do much but if there is a better value beach holiday that'd be great. Thai and Vietnamese foods work for us so that's a bonus.

>>2731001
some quiet beach resort unless you like big cities such as BKK?
Samui, Chang (although getting there is troublesome), Phuket, Phi Phi, etc. have quieter beaches, just avoid most popular beaches
Phuket is more touristy out of these
There are also even quieter places such as Kut or Mak islands
about Christmas-February since it will be very busy
in the autumn it might rain a lot

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Yoooo what the fuck man how is Vietnam so much better than Thailand?

I went to Nha Trang to see and although I had some complaints I really enjoyed my time and stayed there for 3 months
Now I'm doing a Visa hop and thinking I would try Thailand for a week
Specifically Pattaya since Vietnam is kinda strict on brothels and gambling and I wanted to try it out just once at least
>Instant jeet city
>Every restaurant is jeet
>Dirty as fuck
>Scammed twice already by taxi and hotel (give me 1000 baht for your passport back)
>Wifi sucks
>People are all generally ugly looking, and the stink up the hotel
>Absolutely zero class to be found anywhere

This is the country thats been getting tons of American money and did absolutely nothing with it
It's so fucking amazing how much better Vietnam is, like it's not even close, I will never say shit about any price haggling Vietnamese ever again, holy hell.

If I went to Thailand first before Vietnam I would assume every SEA country is like this and never return

Thank you Viets for maintaining some standards, I'm glad I started learning your language

>>2731043
>>Scammed twice already by taxi and hotel (give me 1000 baht for your passport back)
Imagine being retarded and ever letting somebody else hold your passport in the first place. You walked right into that one.

>>2731050
I stayed in so many hotels in Vietnam without issue that this it actually came as a shock to me
I unironically expected this in Vietnam when I first arrived but was pleasantly surprised when it didn't happen

And in the western style Thailand which is supposed to be tourist heaven I get blind sided with it

no decent hotel will ask money for your passport in Thailand
are you sure you aren't retard who doesn't understand what the deposit is? some hotels ask 1000B and will return it when you checkout
for taxis insist on using meter or app or negotiate price in advance, same as everywhere else

>>2731056
Why did they have your passport at all, seriously? All you do is show it to them as ID at check-in. They can take a picture but never ever let that bitch out of your physical possession. Never again, anon. This is preventable.

>>2730614
I'm taller than you and mog you in every possible way.

>>2731043
>give me money for your passport back
Why did they have your passport? They only need to look at it at check in.

If some SEAgook tried to hold my property hostage I would obliterate him. I can't imagine what you must look like of such people feel comfortable scamming you.

>>2731099
You're right that he was retarded to fall for that, but you wouldn't obliterate shit. If you tried, even if you could take the one guy (I'll give you the benefit and assume that you could) you'd be dogpiled by other Thais, and then after that your ass would be hauled to jail.

>>2731043
>Pattaya is a country
lol okay, there's a reason we call it a farang ghetto
>>2731060
true, and if you don't have cash for the deposit they may ask for your passport as collateral. Some places in the Philippines gave me that choice.
Anon being forced to pay up before getting his collateral back sounds like he trashed the room.
>>2731096
Press D to doubt

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tasty VN spring rolls and iced tea with creamy milk at a classy place that's been open since 1954
I love how Viet food isn't laden with omega-6 grease, whereas two Thai meals in a row sit so heavy in the gut

>>2731267
>whereas two Thai meals in a row sit so heavy in the gut
never had a Thai dish here. What the fuck do they put in their food?

>>2731271
stir fry is pretty greasy, all the flavor is in the cooking oil
if you eat cheap in TH, you eat a lot of stir-fry or else bowls of soup

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Boss approved me working 2 months in vietnam, how much fun will I have making $5k net over there each month?

>>2731318
Congrats. I work from home mostly and a colleague hasn't been into the office regularly since March so I've considered asking for this as well seeing as we have an office in HCMC.
How did you approach this?

>>2731353
don't work at a boomer company lmao

>>2731353
don't ask, don't tell, use a travel router, don't fuck up your timezones, keep wifi and bluetooth turned off, go during holidays to add flight cancellation as an excuse

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>>2731318
white dork go home.

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>>2731318
white dork come here and shoot your goo into tight viet pussies.

>>2731043

To me Nha Trang was a shittier version of Quy Nhon and the russian infestation there was extremely off putting

>>2732253
lets b reel, no chad is browsing 4chan. ur a weird white dork liek >>2732065

>>2732299
Not him, but I'm not a Chad and I still fuck hot Viet girls. It's not hard. If you eat their food and learn their language your rating on the 1-10 scale jumps a good three points.

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>>2732372
>>2732372
>Not him, but I'm not a Chad and I still fuck hot Viet girls.

b reel wif me white dork ... when u say "hot viet girls" you mean picrel

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>>2732372
>Not him, but I'm not a Chad and I still fuck hot Viet girls.

>>2732482
>>2732633
Have sex.

>>2732372
I want more than three points if I gotta learn that language.

>>2732676
I didn't either. I'm learning it because I live here. If I were on vacation it wouldn't be practical.

had 3 months in Saigon swallowed by the locals (f) AMA

Stop seething about white men Tuấn

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>>2731267
>two Thai meals in a row sit so heavy in the gut
That's a good thing though for their women!

>>2732714
>had 3 months in Saigon swallowed by the locals (f) AMA
how do you like to meet them?

>>2732903
picrel will be your avg filipina in 2040

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>>2732909
I will be unbelievably erect when that day comes

>>2732854
>Stop seething about white men Tuấn
>picrel i stole ur 8/10 girl yesterday

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>>2732931
forgot the pic...

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>>2732854
agreed. we whytes win. seeth tuan!!!

>>2721881
>What's it like to work there/how did you find your current job?
The Vietnamese people, for the most part, scam each other constantly as a matter of course. This is getting better as time goes on (especially with the culling of many dysfunctional scam companies due to covid) but as a foreigner you really want to check out a company before you sign on. Contracts are almost always worthless and function only to offload company risk onto you- you have zero recourse without connections.
The big English centers are usually a safe bet- they won't be the best job you've ever had but they'll pay on time and be consistent with what they expect.
>What made you decide to move there?
Fed up with US political brainrot c. 2020.
>What is the social scene like for an American?
Quite nice. Expats are always a mixed bag (normal people don't pack up and move to SEA) but english-speaking VN are cool. Non-homosexual VN men are almost universally complete bros. VN women will strike you as very feminine. My sincere advice is to NOT live in the designated "foreigner district" of whatever city you pick- go to them for hobby clubs or social events only.

>>2732903
She would be perfect without the tattoos.

>>2732911
>>2732903
Why are there no fatties on dating apps in Vietnam? I see them on the street but not on apps.

>>2733008
they are
you're probably from america and consider fat Asian women "slim"
or doesn't realize the scamming aspect of the country that extends everywhere: photos on dating sites are heavily filtered and clothes and poses are chosen carefully to hide the fat
hint: if she isn't showing her tummy she is likely to be fat

>>2733051
>you're probably from america and consider fat Asian women "slim"
Yes this is true but I see fatties by my own standards in the street and I want to harpoon those whales. Also I've been here over a year so I definitely know how bullshit the pics are. Maybe I need to just start matching with the profiles with only pics of flowers and food, which I currently automatically swipe left on. Maybe that's where my big round Viet cuties are hiding.

>>2733063
check TH/PH, they have more whales

>>2733092
Yeah but I don't live there. :(
And in Thailand the fatties aren't shaped very well.

>went to vietnam to find fat women to fuck
this is next level stupidity
you picked one of the worst countries in the world for it, dumbass
go to thailand for the brown pigs or china for the light skinned ones

>>2733127
I didn't come here for that purpose, anon. But I'm here and as it happens I like fat bitches. There are plenty of cute fat girls out there as I said above but I've never known how to cold approach anyone in any country.

>>2721776
Thousands and thousands of Business Visa holders were unceremoniously thrown out of Vietnam n the middle of Covid. Turns out it was a high ranking immigration official setting up the shell companies issuing those visa letters for over a decade.

You can have a 30 day visa. That’s it. Visa runs? Feeling lucky? They really don’t want you there. They don’t even want millionaire retirees. They don’t care if you own property there. Just no.

They definitely don’t want digital nomads. Digital nomads don’t pay taxes. Don’t mention what you do if they ask. Immigration in Vietnam now brutal.

>>2733500
what?? it's 45 day visa free or 90 day visa
visa runs work if you want, although now there isn't much need for them

>>2733507
yeah i'm not really sure what this guy is going on about. visa runs are still a thing, and its' pretty easy to get a work visa for 2 years or more as well

>>2733519
he is just another bitter larper rehashing ancient information
"the middle of Covid" LOL

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>>2733542
white dorkus, 2 year visa "company shell" have been shut down. they kick white dorks out with the fake 2 year business visa.

>>2733507
>what?? it's 45 day visa free or 90 day visa
>visa runs work if you want, although now there isn't much need for them

riiiiiiight but they revamped the visa system. u must apply visa out side of the country b4 coming in ... it wasn't easy pre COVID.

won't bee long b4 they limit the number of visa runs, just liek thailand ...

>>2733573
what kind of language is that?
post hand

>>2733582
it's just the same autist who's upset about english teachers living in vietnam making more money than him

>>2733681
shut u .... u r white dorkuss.

>>2733694
Viet DONG!

>>2733681
in the past, whites were unique in the population and had a reputation of being well-off because many whites were expat execs in Vietnam who were there to lead and grow local branches of global multinationals. nowadays, whites play a lesser expat role since capable local Viet execs are ubiquitous and can do it for far less pay. most whites now also comprise of poor “digital nomads” or english teachers barely making it by and have a negative connotation to their skin color given wide negativity against whites from the usa.

dorkus.

>>2733781
how about people who just wanna see the fuckin' country? give us a break with your dork fetish already.

>>2733837
You should just let him inspire you to fuck as many Vietnamese women as you can. You can even get them to call you a white dork while you're beating their guts out.

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>>2733837
>how about people who just wanna see the fuckin' country?

suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure u stupid whyte dork.

>>2733840
>>2733840
>You should just let him inspire you to fuck as many Vietnamese women as you can.

in ur dreamz .... ur a whyte IT dorkus

>>2733837
I also didn't like the vibe of the Western tourists/digital nomads there. Lots of fake "good people", the ones that speak good with words but then treat local people like 2nd class citizens, lots of loud and boisterous people that truly are out of place in Bali. And then you have those Youtubers and IG people that are there for the status ("hey I lived in Bali!") and to take the pics for their IG. I found the place very fake and phony.

White people suck.

>>2721776
Bahn mi, pho and r/asianmasculity seethe everyday

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>>2721776
I visited Hung King Temple today, it was so beautiful and serene.
Should I do a trip around Vietnam to document all the Temples and Shrines?

>>2733932
Yes temples are kino.

>>2730946
phu quoc at a good resort is prime honeymoon stuff. vietnam is easy for inexperienced people. you will only do HCMC and then fly to phu quoc. it is a standard upper middle class asian holiday, especially for couple. if you want an idea of what to do, watch some korean travel vlogs about travel to vietnam, HCMC and phu quoc to get the normie perspective. you shouldn't be taking advice from people on /trv/ who are trying to stretch their savings and live in a shithole lodging and survive on cheap food.

>>2733932
Looks cleaner than a lot of Thai temples. Were there a lot of curs?
>>2733881
Rich people in general are pretentious assholes. That's why I prefer being around the working class, for all their faults.

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>>2733982
>Looks cleaner than a lot of Thai temples. Were there a lot of curs?
Nope, not even a single soul. Completely quiet. I visited the place at around 2:00pm, but I'd imagine the place would be pretty packed during Hung Kings' Festival.
Fuuarrk that place was so nice.

>>2733932
>>2733934
>>2734041
You should document all the temples of Vietnamese female generals and courtesans.


The Vietnanese have dozens of temples dedicated to Vietnamese female generals and Vietnamese courtesans who defeated Han Chinese men across northern Vietnam. They have annual holidays and rituals at the temples every lunar year.

Vietnamese women defeated Han Chinese men in multiple wars over the past 2,000 years and, capturing them in combat and beheading them, or sexually seducing them, drugging them and tying them up in burlap bags.

In 40-43 AD, Vietnamese women rose up in rebellion with a female majority army led by 33 female generals and female rulers (Trung sisters).

Each Vietnamese female general (aged 17 to 40) was appointed as feudal Princess of a particular region by the Trung sisters. They killed, captured, tied up, beheaded and executed tons of Han Chinese men.

One Vietnamese woman general fought naked Han Chinese men and beheaded them, another Vietnamese woman general took off her own boudice and fought the Han Chinese men with her breasts exposed. Vietnamese women generals clothes were soaked with blood of Han Chinese men.

In 1407-1427, Vietnamese women both fought in the battlefield as generals against the Han Chinese and also Vietnamese women courtesans seduced Han Chinese soldiers by dancing and singing in their undergarments with their leg and arms showing, convincing the Han Chinese men to sleep in burlap gunnysacks and let the Vietnamese women tie the burlap bags each night to stay safe from mosquitos. They pampered, wined and dined the men.

>>2733932
>>2734101
The Vietnamese women then drugged the wine of the Han Chinese while sexually seducing them to make sure they couldn't resist, then when they tied them in the burlap sacks, they beat the sacks with sticks and then threw the sacks into rivers and canals, drowning them.

The Vietnamese women literally used femdom bondage in war to entrap and kill Han Chinese men. The Vietnamese won this rebellion.

There were multiple other wars between those two rebellions with Vietnamese female generals and after them, but they mostly involve the same as the first one, Viet women capturing and beheading Han Chinese men en masse.

Since Han Chinese come from a patriarchal and patrilineal Confucian society, being beaten and having their heads taken as trophies by smaller Viet women was humiliating. Most of these women were 17-20 years old, a few were older at 30 or 40 years old.


The names of some of the Han Chinese male generals beheaded by Vietnamese female generals are recorded in the temples dedicated to the women.

The only reason one of the Han Chinese male general's name is recorded in history for posterity is that he was BTFO and publicly beheaded by a 19 year old Vietnamese woman while tied up.

See the names of the generals and courtesans here. You can search for the address of their temples in their villages or cities.

https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/55073025/#q55084098

Entire armies of Han Chinese men were beheaded and cut to pieces by young Vietnanese women.

Entire armies of Han Chinese men were roofied and tied up in sleepsack bondage by Vietnamese women and then killed by the women.

>>2733932
>>2734101
>>2734106
One of the Vietnamese women generals in the Trung sisters rebellion revolted because her twin sister was taken as a concubine by a Han official.

She then beheaded tied up Han generals after capturing them, after her twin sister was taken into a Han harem.

The Vietnamese courtesans slept with the Han soldiers before tying them in the bondage burlap sacks and drown them (the Vietnamese female generals are said for have protected their personal sexual honour in the written accounts at their temples, but the courtesans aren't and everyone knows what courtesans do)

Han men had sex and got killed by the women (courtesans) they had sex with, or got killed by the relatives (female generals) of the women they had sex with.


The Han Chinese men were sexist and patriarchal and overconfident, thinking Vietnanese women generals couldn't defeat and overpower them in battle, before they were defeated and beheaded. They made marriage proposals to the Vietnanese female generals because of their beauty before being defeated and killed by them.

The Han Chinese soldiers tied up in burlap sacks by the Vietnamese courtesans were overwhelmed with lust and fell in love with the Vietnamese courtesans, and thought the Vietnamese women loved them back and that they wouldn't be harmed by them.

>>2734101
>>2734106
>>2734110
based schizo. viet women are indeed kino

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>ctrl+f
>white dork
>19 results
Absolutely seething ricecel

holy hell these threads are cancer
every racemixing white girl is a win.

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>>2734110
Vietnamese women. Beat up white dorkus.

>>2734949
Memes aside, this girl looks totally cute to me. You don't think so?

going to vietnam in a week with two friends
completely rawdogging it, very little planning. What is the most fun things to do in night time while in the cities, specifically hanoi? We plan on hiking as well and exploring the coast. It's my first overseas trip that I arranged for myself (second overall) so I'm looking forward to it

>>2735440
Fuck off, we're full.

>>2735440
Bad idea, you should at least do some research on what part of town to stay in. Hanoi is bering, HCMC is the party town.

>>2735579
>Hanoi is bering, HCMC is the party town.
Shit taste. Hanoi has sovl. Saigon is a shithole.

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I'm in Thailand now, will be in Vietnam in around a week. I'm looking for a decent sized town to stay for a month or so with a nice beach. Da Nang for example would be perfect if it wasn't for the rain cause I love the mountains as well. I'm currently looking at Vung Tau and Ha Long. Any knowers got recommendations?

>>2735640
You sound like one of these zoomer hipster faggots I see running around and I don't want to help you.

>>2735641
Zoomers don't have hipsters anymore grandpallenial, that was your thing. I appreciate the (you) thoughbeit.

>>2735643
Dunno what to call those guys then.
Post a picture of yourself and I'll evaluate whether or not you look like you deserve an answer.

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>>2735647
I will never attach my face to this website, kek. But here's a dog. He hangs out around Wat Pha Lat, saw him multiple times.

>>2735648
Do you have that curly haircut where it's shaved on the sides above the ears, a mustache, assorted tattoos like you're the stall wall in a public toilet, and a flowery shirt?

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>>2735659
Straight hair, no shaved sides, clean shaven face, no tattoos, blank single-colour shirts. I am too autistic to trend chase.
Nah Trang and Da Nang seemed perfect but they're still going to be rainy as fuck in December. I need the scoop.

>>2735668
The scoop is just go to Đà Nẵng. Rainy season is a meme.

Is one week enough to spend in Sài Gòn with a couple of day trip to like Cần Thơ and the delta? Would also love to get to Óc Eo, but it seems like transport availability is not that good. Also how are Vietnam railways? Is taking a train a decent option to get from Đà Nẵng to Huế?

>>2736326
Sài Gòn is gay and the only decent way to travel between Đà Nẵng and Huế is by motorbike. It's a lovely drive.

>>2736326
train is slow with only few departures per day
there are tons of door-to-door minivans available

>>2736539
If you're a fag.

Can anyone tell me where to meet ladyboys/trannies in Hanoi? I'm not looking for hookers so jannies settle down. I just want to know where regular dickgirls are who want a bf or whatever.

>>2737090
Wrong thread? >>2736525

>>2737098
>Hanoi
No

Durian chads, I know we're well past prime season now, but I just bought some anyway and it's good. God I love this shit so much. I'd eat it every day until I got fat if it cost less money.

Can I get by just by speaking English?

>>2737881
if you happen to see me, yeah, my ielts 8.5 serves me just fine.
If you see anyone else, no guarantee. Tourist spots (e.g. Ben Thanh Market) usually have broken English like Japan.

>>2737881
A little Duolingo before you go isn't a bad idea. You won't be able to converse but knowing some words is helpful.

>>2737964
How do I ask someone if they can provide me a good time in Vietnamese?

>>2738010
>a good time
be more specific

>>2738010
vui long cho mot gian tot

>>2738013
yeah mate, no one's gonna understand what the fuck "thoi gian tot" means

>>2738010
Em có muốn làm tình cùng anh không?

>>2737090
Pls respond.

>>2737090
Move to Saigon, I keep getting hit on and called handsome by ladyboys and twinks when ordering from street food stalls.
(I wish I got that from sexy vinahouse chicks instead).

Tinder has a bunch of them too.

>>2739067
Saigon sucks though. Just a modern wannabe western shithole. I was not a fan at all.

>>2739069
Hmmm fair it sure feels that way in D1 but in which district did you stay? I never see any foreigner outside of D1 - D4 and D7.

>>2737090
>>2739069
You have to pick your poison, Hanoi is far more conservative so of course it's not very open to that.
Saigon being less politically influenced by the communist party and having a different history is much more receptive to western values. As a result ladyboys of course flock there.

It all boils down to how much you value a girlfriend with a small penis.

>>2739072
I like the commie influence and wish it was stronger. I hate western liberalism. I think I've become a left wing version of a chud desu. But I love trannies. I suffer.
>girlfriend with a small penis.
Even better if she has a big penis.

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Me in 10 years

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15 years

>>2739189
>>2739191
I don't get it.

Are the Vietnamese cryptojews?

I spent a month with my wife going from Saigon - da nang - hoi an - Hanoi - ha long - Hanoi - Saigon. Hanoi kinda sucks and people are ruder there.
Saigon and da Nang are where it's at. Food and travel is still cheap everywhere except buivien which you should stay away from
Japan town in Saigon had great reaurants but I didn't know what kinda area it was we went early evenings before it got weird

>>2740303
Hanoi is for chads and Saigon is for cucks

>>2740315
Nah Hanoi sucks it's too spread out and the old quarter is chock a block full of backpacking retards and I guess because of how close it is to China everyone's rude as fuck and will push you out of the way in a shop to go first

Be me viet kieu.
Taller than most viets, everywhere I go.
Everytime I go to a cafe I catch all the viet zoomers mirin me.

>>2737090
go on grindr and ask the local gays where they go clubbing and find the local gay filled gay bars. then go out and meet them.

>>2740344
yes Vietnam is a promised land for manlets
local girls think that 170cm guys are tall, kek

>>2722247
I don't know if thai women are the same as westerners, but look up caffes in instagram, my gf loved them, also look up cerender ceramics she almost stayed there for an hour.

>>2726202
there are people saying that if you go to public places alone in hanoi girls will approach you because they want to practice english. I don't know if thats true or just urban legend. I went with my sister and nobody ever approached me.

How come none of the fairer skin/hotter girls want to date, It seems i’m always getting the browner/darker color viets. My FB feed shows the darker manlets hooking up with the fairer skin one, so what gives.

>>2740445
You trying to chase those weird face editing types?

>>2721776
Shithole

>>2740960
Skill issue.

>>2740960
Filtered

>>2740445
isnt it obvious? vietnamese girls don't like white dorkus. they dislike dork enlgihs teachers, digital nomads, begpackers

>>2740445
>How come none of the fairer skin/hotter girls want to date, It seems i’m always getting the browner/darker color viets.

hhahahaha u get teh poor farmer girls. ur white dorkus.

>>2741096
White men are much more handsome than Viet men thoughever.

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>>2741099
white chads stay in thaliand, bali, america. have u seen u the white expats in vietnam? white dorks, maligned english teachers, broke pensioners

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>>2741103
>"why can't i get pretty light skin vietnamese girls"

>>2741103
that would be great, but unfortunately whites in Vietnam are normal just like elsewhere
average age of white men is way lower than in PH
the amount of whites is still tiny compared to population so if you feel you're competing with whites you're simply doing it wrong

>>2740445
post hand, only browns equal fairer skin with being hot

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>>2741105
big time esl dorkus n his brown vietnamese gf

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>>2741106
>the amount of whites is still tiny compared to population so if you feel you're competing with whites you're simply doing it wrong

thats not my point. my point is, vn knows about white dorkus, broke english teachers, which leaves white men undesirable.

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>>2741096
white dork n his monke vn gf.....

>>2741109
>>2741107
>>2741105
>>2741103
is this what it's like for black guys to see BBC posting? saar do no redeem!!!

>>2741109
Would

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>>2740034
It's the expectations I have for my future in Vietnam.

>>2741575
Is Đà Nẵng the best place to coom or something?

>>2741773
It's the best place to get Sting

>>2730572
No fucking way a

>>2734164
>>2734164
shutup, ,,, white dorkus.

>>2741109
white dorkus bros .... our response? he is ugly.

>>2742224
I already kms because he's so ugly and I'm too BTFO to ever recover.

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>>2742224
>white males: bUt w r aLphA maLes
>also white male: beg

>>2742224
He's not ugly, he's just Polish

>>2742533
What a disgusting piece of human shit this poster is. Someone's trying to help his girlfriend's aunt sell her bakery items and this douchebag goes out of his way to be as demeaning as he possibly can. Kudos to the vendor for gracefully bowing out instead of slapping the snarky little manlet upside the face for being so disrespectful.

I was walking around Hoàn Kiếm lake in Hanoi the other day and this white asshole was sitting on the side of the footpath lazily playing some kind of instrument with a handwritten sign that said "I need your support to travel". I was buttblasted at this for the rest of my lap around the lake and really considered going back there to mock and shame him and tell him to get the fuck out and stop embarrassing every other white person everywhere he goes doing this shit, but I didn't. Should I have?

Is it true you need a university degree to legally get a Vietnamese job, or is it more nuanced than that? I don't have one.

I'm married to a Vietnamese woman if that makes any difference. I know there might be employers that are willing to overlook a degree requirement, but I'd like to do things legitimately if I can, just to avoid any complications later down the line if I were to ever decide I want to settle down in Vietnam long-term.

If a degree really is required, does it matter what it is? Can I just go for the easiest bullshit online degree I can find just to tick the box?

>>2733857
>t.ricecel

>>2742673
Does your wife know she married a loser?

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>>2742673
>>2742673
stay in ur home country bro. vietnam has too many white dorkus.

>>2742593
>Should I have?
yes. u wondered why vietnamese gurls dont date white foreigners? cuz of white begpackers like u saw ....

>>2742741
Vietnamese girls do date me. I drown in pussy in this country, more than in Thailand. But your point stands anyway.

>>2742743
do u date vietnamese girls who dont speak english? can u speak vietnamese...

>>2742747
>do u date vietnamese girls who dont speak english?
In some cases yes
>can u speak vietnamese...
Not very well. My listening ability is still kind of weak so I need people to slow down for me. I know kind of a lot though and it's enough to impress people even though I'm very far from fluent. I can carry a text conversation very well with minimal translating. I've been here about a year and a half.

>>2742748
thats great anon. how do u meet new girls? instagram? facebook?

>>2742748
white dorkus dating old left over women (30+ years old)

>>2732482
That Jet Li looking motherfucker

>>2742750
I'm on the dating apps but I have also approached women outside here. This is something I'd never ever do in the west because it feels cringe and creepy, but women here haven't been ruined like that yet (it's coming soon I'm sure - thanks internet) and the fact that I'm speaking their language helps.
>>2742783
t. dating no one

>>2742918
r u south african?

What the fuck do I have to do to get a cute(ish) massage girl to rub my body for an hour (NOT sexual, not happy ending) I just want some cute lil yellow hands rubbing me up for an hour but I tried 2 random places with had cute girls in and got bait and switched hard both times. First time some guy came out of a back room to do it, and the second place some fat old goblin with hands like she worked down a mine her whole life came out of nowhere to do it

and what's with the literally begging for tips for every little thing here?

Strange place so far

and they clearly all only ask me where im from to judge what amount of tip they should start demanding
think im just going to start saying some random eastern euro country they never heard of
i even tip all the time anyway but i really draw the line when they start fucking expecting and demanding it

>>2742980
>and what's with the literally begging for tips for every little thing here?
I've never encountered this a single time EXCEPT at massage places.

>>2742985
I tell people I'm Turkish sometimes because it makes me sound poor and I can pretend not to really speak English, but it's a big enough country that it sounds plausible.

>>2742980
>and what's with the literally begging for tips for every little thing here?

depending on the place, the massage person works 100% on tips. if u time them 20K that is an insult, a good tip is between 100K - 200K, i usually tip 200K

>>2742988
>I've never encountered this a single time EXCEPT at massage places.

some places, they 100% work on tips. if the massage place is 500K, the ticket and tip is included. if it is cheap like 200K, then tip is expected. basically ticket = price of tip

if u dont tip they get angry cuz u literally screw them over and insult them with 20K tip

>>2743038
I gave 50k each time even though both was bad. Feel like i was screwed over so if they arent giving good service then what can they expect

>>2742929
>>2743039
I'm not South African and I don't think I will go back to my shithole.

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>>2743091
who is going to take one for the team and inform white dorkus that teaching is not a via long-term career. english center has a high turn over rate. teaching english is a dead end career; you'll be in your 30s, 40s, 50s teaching english to little kids. such is life of white dorkus.

go back to your shithole, dorkus

>>2743091
this youtuber is the future you, dorkus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqnKjVuKVh0

>>2743091
Who wants to move to 3rd world Vietnam to work 60 hours a week and make half you'd make in the west? white dorks like u. are u a russian slav escaping ur shithole?

>>2743096
>60 hours a week
lol
lmao

>>2743100
i get it. ur a lazy white dork. u work 20 hours a week english center teaching little kids. gravy train won't last forever my boy.

>>2743096
>Who wants to move to 3rd world Vietnam
Me.
>to work 60 hours a week
Try 20.
>and make half you'd make in the west?
But it goes 4x further
>white dorks like u
U jelly.
>are u a russian slav escaping ur shithole?
I'm in heaven and I'm not going anywhere so cope. :)

>>2743103
Your envious seething is hilarious. Come be my TA.

>>2743105
>white dorkus teaches english to 3rd worlders
>thinks he's high status

my sides

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>>2743104
>I'm in heaven and I'm not going anywhere so cope. :)

dorkus goes to third world. lives in a third world. thinks he's in heaven. HAHAHAHAH.

picrel its (you)

>>2743110
You're mad for some kind of reason and it's certainly not because I've actually done anything to you, so if it's not envy then you tell me.
>high status
I don't even consider this concept and I don't understand people who do.

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>>2743104
>U jelly.

why on god's earth wud i bee jelly of a white dork with his bottom of the barrel low status job?

>>2743111
Imagine being shitter-shattered that somebody else is happy. Your mind is broken, anon.

>>2743112
>>2743112
>You're mad for some kind of reason and it's certainly not because I've actually done anything to you, so if it's not envy then you tell me.

i am not mad at u. i am only pointing out vietnam is for whyte english teacher dorks. white chads live in Singapore, thailand etc. you white dorks begpacking and teaching engrish in vietnam is an eye sore.

again, why would a 6 figure earner like me be jealous of a bottom barrel english teacher dork?

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>>2743115
>Your mind is broken, anon.

no, the real mind broken r white dorks that escape their first world country ... n move to a third world ... get low status english monkey job. they think its heaven. god, you white dorks r eyesore.

>>2743116
You couldn't possibly pay me enough money to live in Singapore.
>6 figure earner
Nice anon, what plans do you have for your 500k vnd?

>>2743105
>Your envious seething is hilarious.

u do realize that local vietnamese make fun of white teacher dorks rite?

they know u make 60K-80K salary yearly in america but opt to teach english make $2K monthly XD

>>2743120
You are absolutely OBSESSED with money and status.

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>>2743118
>You couldn't possibly pay me enough money to live in Singapore.

cuz r u a low effort, low value, low intelligence dork. couldn't make it in japan, singapore, dubai, bali ... u opt for vietnam.

picrel ur $2K salary

how is ur $2K a month salary, dorkus.

>>2743121
Around 2018-2020, I was an account manager at an English center, before the IELTS fiasco. Fancy title but I basically interpret, assist, and help ESL teachers get accustomed to their new life in a new country and make sure they're happy and comfortable.

My god I am GLAD I left that life and burnt all the bridges. Some people really, REALLY had a white savior complex. Some acted like all the locals are inferior to them. Some thought "because an average Vietnamese earns $300 a month, I should be treated as royalty because I earn $2000" (which is my actual real answer, ESL teachers earn $2000 on average, some do grind and take on as many classes as they humanly could and earn a lot more). Bitch you're barely middle-class.

Funny story, some deranged fuck literally made a post last week on this sub, asking for a villa at "local prices" because he thought $1500/mo was a rip off. Dude is pissed because he can't afford to live in a VILLA, with a pool, in a gated neighborhood, while on a teacher's salary, and thought greedy Viet-peeps are scamming him because he's white. No, he's just piss poor and delusional.

>>2743122
An English teacher fucked your crush right?

>>2743125
Why are you telling me all this? Is it meanst to rebut something I said? I'm just living chill and comfy here.

>>2743125
Aside from the superiority, the condescending remarks, the delusional salary expectations, what I hated the most were the people who only taught kids to sing the ABCs and then consider themselves as an "educator". They think they're actually doing something good for the world. You're getting paid $2000 a month to play Stop The Bus with toddlers from upper-middle class families, give me a break. There are actual ESL teachers here teaching for pennies in rural, underdeveloped areas of Vietnam in hope that English will open up new horizons for these impoverished children. I cannot, literally cannot describe how much I respect these teachers, and it just makes me hate those uppity, pretentious, greedy fucks even more.

>>2743127
>I'm just living chill and comfy here.

How old are you? 22, 24, around there? And which shithole country did you escape from?

>>2743130
>"educator"
Meme word. I just say teacher like a normal person.
>>2743132
Older than that, and I escaped from the US and have no plans to return to it. Truly a shithole. It's possible that you'd be unable to understand.

>>2743134
>Older than that, and I escaped from the US and have no plans to return to it. Truly a shithole. It's possible that you'd be unable to understand.

I am American myself. You're a loser back home, thus you abandoned your family, friends and career for Vietnam.

>>2743137
>I am American myself.
I'm very sorry to hear that. My family and friends had already been scattered all over the country for a long time before I left anyway. As for muh career, American work life makes me profoundly unhappy no matter how much money is involved. If you can't understand that money is not happiness then I don't know how I can make you understand. I've never missed living in America for a single moment since I left. I'm kinda unsure why I'm even bothering with this conversation but I'm being quite sincere.

>>2742980
Update
I decided to just go to neko nuru massage today instead of replying to the 10 year younger than me girl on bumble who was asking me if i had any plans
Lol

>>2743139
Be honest brother, what was your job / career in America?

>>2743182
>I decided to just go to neko nuru massage today

how was it, and what was the cost?

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>>2743194
the place is the most legit ran place I've seen in Vietnam yet lmao, the costs are upfront and they didn't try any little tricks or try to screw me with extra fees in anyway which I appreciate more than anything else. the rooms are high quality comparable to what i saw at much more expensive places in japan and thailand

they took 2 girls into my room and I got to choose between those 2 on the spot (a bit awkward to me kek). idk if there is more girls to choose from if you reject both but some reviews seemed to state there was more choice? idk I was happy with the one I got and she did a great job anyway - it was not rushed, she was not lazy, I got the full time. By comparison I had some real shitty (lazy - esp. japan) ones in other places but that's just down to the girl so who knows what you'll get here. No fs here I think but I don't want that anyway

I did 90min for 1.9m VND total. half of this was listed as a "tip" - it seems to be mandatory? I wasn't going to haggle or bother disputing it because the total is still very cheap compared to the same kind of service elsewhere, even Thailand is like fucking twice as much.

I may go again since I still got a week in Hanoi but I am trying to stop using these services and get a gf (LOL) but greetings from Kazakhstan also I like Chinese girls and im not in china so im not sure how i will make that add up

anyway love indians it's cool how they're all obsessed with the train street, must remind them of home (janny plz no ban)

>>2743193
I was a corporate management faggot. Way more money than teaching but I hated it.

>>2743201
good kind of blogpost

>>2743037
kek no tips in Vietnam unless you're really happy with the service
unfortunately in some tourist traps they push "mandatory" tips, always check that price includes tips in advance
sometimes you get cute girl doing massage, sometimes not, it depends

>>2743249
>kek no tips in Vietnam unless you're really happy with the service

some times employee work 100% on tips, I have spoken to them. but you do what you want. :D

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>>2721776
>white migrant workers are leaving VN
>Vietnam is healing

>>2743331
They should explain this before service. Do the old "that'll be $20 plus tip" pizza driver meme.
You quote a price, I agree, then you want to beg for tips afterward? Fuck you.

>>2743610
It's not much to ask for is it? A bit of honesty and transparency in how much and what you are paying for...

>>2743757
The massage girl should be mad as fuck at the bitch working the front and not telling people this.

>>2743610
>They should explain this before service

Their english isn't good anon. The massage girl is some poor farm girl from the country side, who goes up to the city to massage fat white piggus like you. Have some sympathy you autistic.

>>2743790
Then they should put it on their English price list.

>>2743790
>Their english isn't good anon.
It's good enough to try to put the screws to me after the service is rendered so it's good enough to raise in advance. I'm sympathetic to poor people but sometimes people just use dirty business tactics anon.

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>>2721776
White dork having a harder time dating.

How is discussion of sex against the rules but white dork posting isn't? I'm just going to start reporting every white dork post for being off topic and extremely low quality, and see what happens. I invite my fellow expats to join me in this effort.

>>2744375
shut up white dorkus

>>2744375
maybe, just maybe, ur a stupid white male?

>no vertification required