tl;dr Seeking suggestions for:-places to live-entry level jobsUS citizen moving back to the US soon, after a few year stint in Europe. I am not traveling; I plan to stay in one place. I know nobody in the US except my parents, who won't help me. So I need to land and then start living out of a backpack, building a new life from scratch.Where is a good place to live, and why? Preferably a place where I can walk or bike to work (or a job that provides travel). I have only lived in more medium/smaller-sized cities, and have never lived in one of the major metropolises, but I have been considering them.Where is a good place to work, and why? Places you have heard people enjoy working at, who treat their employees well, pay well, and have a low turnover rate because people like it. Or better yet: good places you have worked or currently work at.Specific examples for locations and jobs are better than broad generalisations, but will I appreciate any input. Assume I am young or old and have no degree or significant work experience, so entry-level only. My goal is simply to get my own cheap place and work for at least a few years to build up savings again, while getting training or education for something long-term.Oh and if you happen to know a good international opportunity, I am all ears. Current similar threads: >>2841496 and >>2817321And there are a few similar "where2live?" threads >>2839531 >>2848081 >>2839810 but they are looking for their own specific criteria which don't align with mine. Homeless advice thread >>2839861 since that is already part of my backup plan.
Land on an Alaskan fishing boat and live at work. You can go from one fish season to the next, like crabs, and live off of boats each time.
>>2849529Seconding Alaska. It's expensive as shit, but there are a lot jobs, like seasonal stuff, where you live on site and get fed at work so you can save a lot of money if you don't spend it on beer or other bullshit
>>2849529I forgot about that, that is a good lead. Do you have any specific recommendations? I knew a guy who did that, he shared stories and photos. It's the hardest work but fairly compensated. This reminds me: something about oil drilling in the middle-north US, and somewhere else with forestry fire prevention. How does one actually get started doing these, though? Which city(ies)? Are there only a couple such employers, or hundreds? Do I just walk in? If ya'll have any insight, it would even out my learning curve, but this certainly bears some research on my end.A few months ago, I read a little bit about getting started in the cargo boat business on the East coast. Sounded similar to a trade apprenticeship: requires years of investment, education, and rising through the ranks, but the results are a good career.I also just remembered a tip I heard a while ago: ski resort in Colorado... but it's basically almost summer by the time I'm back in the US. Maybe for the following winter though.>>2849591Which jobs do you have in mind besides fishing boats? Do you know of any specific companies? Having on-site living and food sounds extremely attractive. I don't need to go anywhere except work and home. I don't have retarded habits so I can save money relatively quickly.I've shoveled snow before as part of a job (each winter for half a decade), but would probably suck at plowing.A few years ago, I did actually did a little digging on Alaska as a possible place to move before I came to Europe. Alaska basically seemed desolate and hard to eke out a living just starting out, as you alluded to with high cost. But I didn't consider asking for advice, and had forgot about jobs like these.
>just live on a fishing boat in the artic, brokek
>>2849520what backpacks are thosehow are they holding together?
>>2849520>US citizen moving back to the US soon, after a few year stint in Europeget job offers first and then compare
>>2849735Pshh, it was about 20 years ago, so I wouldnt be much help securing a position. They get lots of people "saying" they want to go but chicken out so you need to make it very clear "Youre very serious about it." otherwise theyre kind of ignore you.>>2849758Yeah, I was in Valdez for Copper River Delta salmon tendering. Fucking amazing beauty, the snowy mountains start right at the ocean line. I went back to the general area a couple years ago for touring purposes.Long hours of grueling labor but I was also co-pilot so I also had long haul nights and mornings.
>>2849806>ValdezCordova, we just visited Valdez to offload.But there is basically always a season going on for something. Kind of wish I tried to infamous crab fishing in the Bering sea, being I went into the Army after this I feel like I would have cake-walked it a bit. You know, flex to the universe in private.
>>2849735>besides fishing boatsCannery, where they gut and process the fish. I dont really recommend, you'll work with third worlders they import for cheap and the work is painfully repeatative, swollen hands from 12 hour shifts of cutting open thousands of fish and ripping its guts out kind of shit.I visited Juneau and Anchorage recently, its pretty darn modern and the downtown vibe is fairly lefty/liberal. Im sure it gets desolate "way out there" but if youre around any city it wont feel *that* remote.
>>2849758Yeah? Getting a temporary sucky job that pays a bunch that also lets you not have to worry about rent is a pretty good way to get financially stable.
re: fishing boatsI excitedely brought this up to somebody I know, explaining it, and without missing a beat they said,>But anon... you can't swimxDStill will keep these ideas in mind, but still keeping my eyes peeled for all opportunities. Just applied to a mountain resort that needs help. Along with the ones I mentioned so far, I was also recently reminded of trains, elevators, and construction hmm... I have the skills for construction/masonry and related, but wouldn't have a vehicle to accommodate the usual open positions' needs.
>>2849758>just live with mommy in the basement like me!
Alaskan fishing is such a joke of people who will never be able to break into it. Not to mention the job is meh for the pay and effort, sure you can make a killing but you can also be killed and are working insane hours. Unless you've worked around ports and have a good fitness level. Alaska also has a stupid high cost of living these days.I know this will get a lot of shit but it's unironically good for entry level pay, cheap cars/transportation, and good paying jobs if into tech/manual labor seasonal stuff.>>2849735Fargo is isolated and has some good entry paying positions, seriously like Subway starts at something stupid like 20/hr now, washing down trucks can pay 25-35hr with benefits and always OT, hell even target pays 19/hr starting. You can buy a car here for cash under 3500 ez or take the bus for cheap to virtually everywhere with jobs. Healthcare IT is big here too. Getting a CDL is fairly easy here with enough schools around. You can find places with rent ~500-700 for a decent place, if fine with a studio sub 500/mo is possible. Cost of living here if you aren't eating out like so many do here is sub 10k/yr. Winters suck but if all you are trying to do is reintergrate into the job market sounds like you just need 1-2 years to build some job history+touch up on some skillsets. The community college here has some decent courses for training into a bunch of fields.
>>2852387Also, yes fargo has a lot of seasonal oil support jobs but for most of those they want an ND address and ensured you've dealt with at least a winter or two. I know people who do something like 6 months on and then 6 months off.
>>2850072>Shifts are 12-16 hours per day, 7 days a week for the duration of the fishing contract.>average 50k per seasonWhile that's cool and all cdl schools and jobs often pay far better for the work applied, most schools will throw you right into a job especially since many CDL's are under review and getting revoked by CA/NY. Far easier to slide into with more regulated hours and pay with far less risk. Hell the local bus trainsit here is decent paid training+good starting wages, Sundays always off.Fishing may pay a good chunk if you get lucky, but a CDL is more viable year-round and transferrable to most any state in the continental USA.
