>Marvel’s original plan was to keep three major characters around as a "familiar umbrella" under which new heroes could grow in Phase 4 and beyond – Chadwick Boseman’s Black Panther, Brie Larson’s Captain Marvel, and Tom Holland’s Spider-Man. At one point during the filming of AVENGERS: ENDGAME, the trio sat together and said aloud, "Look at us, the future of the MCU."https://thestreamr.com/2023/10/13/mcu-the-reign-of-marvel-studios-nycc-2023-panel-breakdown/
kinda sad, ngl
They perfectly represent the future of the MCU: soulless, dead, and gay.
>>198567787Yeah, both Larson and Holland deserved to die of arse cancer before Boseman.
>>198567787sad that they were that stupid to try making those three the tentpoles of Phase 4? they don't control Spider-Man, Sony does. No one gives a shit about Captain Marvel and only basketball americans care about BP
Pathetic, especially Brie Larson
>>198567363Why are you posting a random speculative article written by a literal who from 6+ months ago?
>>198567894According to rumors, Brie Larson and Kevin Feige were fucking. That would explain the boost that Ms Marvel's character received.
>>198567911>>198567894This makes total sense I'm not sure why you're having a hard time with it. Captain Marvel, black panther, and Spiderman all cleared a billion dollars. Since Downey+Evans are done who else do you build around circa 2019?
>>198567991What boost?
>>198567363>Look at us, the future of the MCU
>>198568075Sorry, I meant to say, that explains the boost that they tries to give Ms. Marvel
>>198568075The character was going to become rdj's replacement and be the face of mcu.
>>198568145Well her movie grossed a billion dollars. Thats the highest debut for a brand new hero who had never appeared in any of the movie's before.
>>198568287The film was released before End Game.
>>198567363>Brie Larson has full Captain Marvel costume>Chadwick Boseman has full Black Panther costume>Tom Holland has motion capture suitI don't understand. Why don't they either all have full costumes or all motion capture suits? Sure, you'd need to CGI Spider-Man's head for the eyes, but why can't he have an actual suit on his body?
what could have been
>>198567363 >Captain Marvel no one likes her and brie larson was a terrible pick >Spiderman Spiderman isn't supposed to interfere with the avengers and world-ending threats. >BP he was really cool in civil war and they somehow made him uncool in his own movie. I don't know how to explain it.
>>198568287kek. that trick only works once.
>>198567363>At one point during the filming of AVENGERS: ENDGAME, the trio sat together and said aloud, "Look at us, the future of the MCU."We all know Brie said it
>>198568043>who else do you build around circa 2019? Ant-man, Doctor Strange, Thor/introduce new character
>>198567363>Kevin Feige: "Look at them, the future of the MCU. I really hope one of them isn't doing something extremely shitty like having cancer and not telling me, but really, what are the chances of that?"
>>198567363>At one point during the filming of AVENGERS: ENDGAME, the trio sat together and said aloud, "Look at us, the future of the MCU."Kind of a dick move for Boseman to do that when he fucking knew he was dying
>Heh, if only they knew I'm dying of ass cancer
>>198568393>The film was released before End Game.Plus it was connected to the final scene of Infinity War, where they made you feel like you had to see it otherwise you wouldn't know what's going on in Endgame. Also, it came out just a couple months before Endgame, so you couldn't just wait for DVD/BR/VOD, you had to see it in theaters in time for Endgame.
>>198569031Based negro sabotagging Capeshit forever
>>198567363>the trio sat together and said aloud, "Look at us, the future of the MCU."altogether
>>198567363>Look at us, the future of the MCU.hahahahahawell I guess Twink "Poz My Neggy" Hole-land is still in the running
>>198568740>Ant-manDid you bump your head on something?
>>198569234Pre-Quantumania, people liked Ant-Man, anon.
>>198567869underrated post
>>198569234 Fun powers + Paul Rudd is likeable and charismatic. Ant-Man could have really worked as one of the front men for the MCU if they didn't give him the worst movies.
>>198567363Oh no no no.The top of his head status: Looked At.Christ that meme is old.
>>198569288They still do.
>>198568043>Captain Marvel, black panther, and Spiderman all cleared a billion dollars. Cap marvel only cleared a billion thanks to Endgame hype. Marvel though forcing her into the avengers would make people love her but nope.
The black guy was reasonably likeable. Brie they should have made captain marvel have a personality change to being more nice and friendly after events of a movie. People still like Tom Spider-Man.
>>198567363Brie Larson is low key kinda hot desu
>>198567363If that is true it was unbeliably stupid.>she was hated by everyone without blue hair>he was dying of cancer>sony owned spiderman and would eventually fuck them in the add or ask for astronomical fees
>>198568393And? Thats my point. At that time she was in a massive movie, even though she had never appeared prior. No other character has had an opening that big
100% Brie said it.
>>198568507>I don't know how to explain iteasy, some characters work better the less you know about them
>>198568740None of those characters had a movie gross a billion.
>>198570736And they are more popular and more loved than Captain marvel
>>198570666Are you stupid or a journo?In between infinity war and endgame they could have filmed a shit on a stick, market it as important for the plot and make a billion too.And they fucking knew that the movie did poorly, proof is they made her dissapear in endgame, didnt touch the character for half a decade and when they did they made her share her own movie. And ir flopped as expected anyway
Its not Brie Larson's fault they wrote her character poorly.
>>198569054All the movies are connected that's the whole point of the mcu. And yet captain Marvel and black panther had movies that clearer a billion and the others didn't.
>>198567871
>>198567869
>>198570823Captain marvel was teased in infinity fucking war, released a month before endgame, the biggest movie ever at the time. She made a billion but you are delusional if you think if it was because people liked her.Same for BP, he had Civil War hype, negros acting like the second coming of Jesus, he was also appearing in Infinity War etc.
>>198567363It does suck, especially what happened with Chadwick Boseman, he didn't deserve to die of cancer so young. Feige should've recast, I don't care what the actors said during the filming of "Wakanda Forever".>>198567894>and only basketball americans care about BP"Black Panther" made $1.35 billion and "Wakanda Forever" made over $842 million and that starred nothing but black women. The fact that the gross is so domestic heavy only makes the BP franchise even more valuable.>>198568287"Captain Marvel" was directly referenced in the post-credits scene in "Infinity War" when the hype for the MCU was the biggest it's ever been; you can't ask for a better advertisement than that. Yeah, it's clear how much IW helped only in hindsight, but still.>>198568507>he was really cool in civil war and they somehow made him uncool in his own movie. I don't know how to explain it.Easy, he wasn't in half of his own movie.>>198568630I heard "The Marvels" was full of ass shots of Carol and Monica, anyone got a webm? I'm still surprised that the MCU blatantly sexualized her like they did in that tank top.
>>198570808i don't blame brie for how shit the movie was, but i do think a more charismatic could have made carol work better.they desperately need a new rdj but i can't think of anyone to do it, it sure as shit won't be pedro or the rest of the ff
>>198570780>didnt touch the character for half a decade 3 years is pretty common for a release time between movies in a series. Throw in the covid year that delayed productions and the timeline makes sense to me.>and when they did they made her share her own movie.Captain America shared his movies with Bucky, Falcon, Iron Man, and Black WidowThor shared his movie with HulkAntman shared his movies with WaspHell Deadpool is sharing his movies with the X-menTeam-ups are the whole point of interconnected movies
>>198567363I hate these movies but this is just depressingBoseman died of cancer so young. Jesus christ... I was reading about a woman who got dementia in her for tiers and died of it before she turned fifty. What was the point of even being born. If something like that can just happen toy ou. So pitiless and indifferent
Brie posts on 4chan btw
>>198571112No I d- I mean there's no way for anybody to know
>>198571112she posts the /fph/ threads on /fit/
>>198571086>Captain America shared his movies with Bucky, Falcon, Iron Man, and Black WidowThor shared his movie with HulkAntman shared his movies with WaspCap appeared in other movies before his sequelThor appeared in other movies before his sequelAnt Man appeared in other movies before his sequelNot the same as Captain marvel being forgotten.
>>198567363Chadwick really fucked marvel over by dying.Sony fucked marvel over by not just giving them spider-man.Brie fucked marvel by being a charisma vacuum that no one liked.Kinda sad really
>>198568473Oversaturated cgi slop with messy choreography in action scenes that are way too busy? Pretty sure the mcu is full of that
>>198568740>Ant-manLiterally the most meh superhero. Despuite having his own films, he's still in the same league as Falcon, Black Widow and Hulk in terms of popularity>Doctor StrangeOverpowered. His only stories basically make the rest of the universe pointless. Also, he's just Benedict Cumberbatch being a joyless nerd.>Thorlmao Taika sends his regards>introduce new characterlmao Chloe Zhao sends her regards
>>198571140>Cap appeared in other movies before his sequel>Thor appeared in other movies before his sequel>Ant Man appeared in other movies before his sequel>Not the same as Captain marvel being forgotten.Did Captain Marvel not appear in her own movie, then appear endgame, before her sequel? Isn't that exactly what you're describing?
>>198567869LOL
>>198571234She appeared in endgame for..7 minutes and nobody liked her there. Ant man thor cap were loved by that time. You can't compare them
>>198571041>Feige should've recastI disagree. Making his death a sad point and plot relevant in the sequel is kind of gross but also financially super smart since people were genuinely really sad about his death.The misstep was replacing him with Shuri and 2 random women. The only explanation is that they did literally zero market research into what audiences wanted. To replace the cool, masculine black superhero with a scrawny teenage girl, a younger teenage sidekick, and an older mean woman was the stupidest creative decision (and the film still did well financially despite this which is the insane part).Instead, they should've either had a random new street kid accidentally become the new Black Panther (basically just copy Miles Morales' story but with BP). Or, used multiverse bullshit to bring back Michael B Jordan as Black Panther from an alternate universe.
>>198567869KWAB!
>>198567363>the trio sat together and said aloud, "Look at us, the future of the MCU."That's bullshit but I believe it
>>198571319I've only seen endgame once but I thought she was liked well enough. Killed Thanos, had that flirty interaction with Spiderman, not sure why people would dislike her
>>198567869based and 69pilled
>>198568473This looks terrible.
>>198571404She appeared talked shit to avengers about how she is so much better than them it's not a good introduction. But let me ask if she is liked well enough why her sequel was the worst flop in marvel history?
>>198571224Not that anonMaybe try building around Hulk or Scarlett Witch? There are only so many choices. Building around Scarlett witch might be tough because I think execs at Marvel knew Elizabeth Olsen was about done with the character/role by the time endgame wrappedBut really I still think those were probably the safest 3 characters/actors to build around.
>>198571451Isn't the captain Marvel movie her introduction?
>>198571224>Doctor Strange>Overpoweredcaptain marvel is more overpowered
>>198567869/thread
>>198571576I think her being absent works better and is explained easier than Strange who is supposed to be in New York City a lot of the time. Or at least never that far away.
>>198571576Yes, and she was a stupid choice>>198571511The solution was to work with Sony closer rather than trying to steamroll them, replace Black Panther with a new actor (can be a different character in the suit), and choose Scarlett Witch instead of Captain Marvel. From there, they needed to focus on building up those heroes and establishing 3 or 4 new heroes to be the "core" team (and giving Thor to a filmmaker who knew what to do with him).Their problem was establishing like ten new heroes that were quickly forgotten (with only a few those in films - which were shit), while focusing on disney plus retardation that no one watched or cared about.
>>198571626Cap Marvel is always supposed to be doing shit in space we dont see. Strange has to protect the Sanctum
>>198571325Killing T'Challa because Boseman was dead is a disservice to the character and the MCU as a whole. They went with the immediate emotional response, what "felt right," as opposed to taking a step back, mourning, and then after that was done actually thinking about what was the right course of action. Because now we just have no more Black Panther. There will be no Black Panther movies in the future - There will be Shuri movies. And, I'm sorry, I like Shuri well enough as T'Challa's Agent Q, but I have no desire to see her as THE Black Panther. You can't kill off Tony, have Pepper or Happy wear a robot suit, and then expect the next "Iron Man movie" to do well. They should've recast T'Challa. There was a perfectly good John David Washington right there they could've used.
>>198568457Because Spiderboy was wearing Ironspider in Endgame, with metal spiderlegs and stuff.Not just his normal suit.And Ironman suits are full cgi in most cases.
>>198571563Her introduction to the Avengers, anon. Do try to keep up.
>>198571882Well, obviously the spider legs would need to be CGI, but why the rest of his suit? That's dumb. No wonder these movies cost trillions of dollars.
>>198567363>the trio sat together and said aloud, "Look at us, the future of the MCU."they all said it simultaneously?they should kill any faggot who comes up with those retarded shillshit narrative fantasies>yea we adult people are sitting here having so much fun and being friends with each other and being enthusiastic and being humble about impersonating those larger than life characters and thinking about stan lee what a legend and taking this retarded slop for morons seriously
>>198568473looking at the pic I can't tell either
>>198567363What an ugly Spider-Man suit. It isn't even red.
How did they fuck up so bad by making people hate a big titty bimbo like Brie? Her agent and pr people or whatever are a bunch of retards for telling her to act like a cunt.
i like brie
Brie fucked up with all that "I don't care what you think about movies" rhetoric when the people she was addressing were mainly the people she'd be trying to please in the MCU, and, to a lesser degree, making fun of Carol's "swimsuit" costume while at the same time not having the body to pull it off anyway. She seems to be a decent enough person in the various random videos I've seen of her, but as far as the MCU goes, she was just repeatedly sticking her fucking gigantic feet in her mouth. The fact that Carol just waltzes into Endgame pulling that "Yeah, you guys are cute, but I'm the real hot shit here" with the Avengers we'd been following for 20+ movies probably didn't help, either.
>>198567363Oh Johnny, did you ever back the wrong horse. Will you please hose him?
>>198568473This is literally end game, wtf are you on about?
Marvel needed to reset after Thanos. It was a cosmic, existential threat and trying to jump from that to a similar threat in Kang was the big mistake. Should have reset down to street level heroes and crime with lower budgets instead of high budget spectacles.
>>198567991>According to rumors, Brie Larson and Kevin Feige were fucking. That would explain the boost that Ms Marvel's character received.Feige confirmed for not being a footfag.
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>>198567991> According to rumors, Brie Larson and Kevin Feige were fucking. Feige's wife is hot as shit like bimbo porn star hot. No way he would downgrade.
>>198568473Where/ what am I supposed to be looking at?
>>198567787Fpbp>>198567869I kek'dA sad kek
>>198567363Why does the man-boy have the japanese flag on his uniform???
>>198567869Zozzle, indeed.
>>198574514you srs?
>>198575092I wish I were Feige
>>198567869Anon looking real cool now
>>198567363alcoholic loudmouth, butt bandit, and zoomerman
>>198571937The suit would have to be cgi along with the spider legs so that it would look uniform and not like they cgi spider legs onto a suitYour…kinda retarded aint ya?
>>198571041>"Black Panther" made $1.35 billion and "Wakanda Forever" made over $842 million and that starred nothing but black womenThat's a five hundred million loss, despite relying heavily on it being a tribute to Chadwick. Actors dying historically has been massive boons to box office, but this somehow lost a full ass third of it's entire audience.
>>198567991No, Larsen is a secret nepo-baby of some mega-bigshot.CAPTCHA: 2J XGAY
>>198567869based and trips
>>198575229>Your…kinda retarded aint ya?No, I just remember when movies were capable of making realistic looking fantastical things without having to run to the computer every five minutes.
>>198567869Fantastic.
>>198567869Gave me a giggle
>>198569027Or he was completely based fucking Disney up the ass harder than he had ever been. I'd love to have been a fly on the wall at Disney the day he died to hear all the panic they had to be going through
>>198567869>soulless dead and gayIn which order does that go?
>>198571937every sane person would think that an actual costume would help the immersion, looking at the raimi movies.There is a video on youtube that shows bts stuff and Tom Holland in an actual costume, but marvel paints a complete cgi suit over it anyways to make it look "better" (meaning, like a video game from 2016, I guess).This explains a lot of the scenes where he looks so fake and just pasted into a scene. At that point they could just do a full CGI model instead of painting over a real suit.
>>198567869SPBP
>>198567894you forgot proggie whites also love wakanda
