>takes the fall for Alec Baldwin That's loyalty
lotta loyalty for a prop worker
Slampigs belong in the slammer
it's part of the armorer codea civvie wouldn't understand
>>198607985what's the point of sending people like this to prison?
>>198608046You’re a big actor
>>198608074There isn’t a point but American “””justice and equality””” means that you have to waste people’s lives for literally no reason because you… uh… waste the lives of evil people so it’s not fair?
>>198608074to scare other armorers straight
>terrible terrible accident >here get locked up with a bunch of 80iq violent thugs
>>198608243>with a bunch of 80iq violent thugsmost womens prisons are walks in the park compared to mens prisons
>>198608046>>198608091
>>198608074They expected one of them in the fire
>>198608283I'm not even sure prisons are real. Hospitals are fake, lol just go to rooms with repeating numbers. We're in a simulation.
>>198608283talk to anybody who has worked in both and they'll tell you you're an absolute retard.
>>198608370its true. im sure theres bad stuff in womens prisons but mens prisons are 100% worse by far
>>198608344
>armorer loads a live bullet into the gun and declares it a "cold gun">the safety coordinator then takes the gun and inspects it and declares that its a "cold gun" and hands it to Alec Baldwin>somehow morons think its Baldwin's fault when his Armorer (the subject matter expert on set) and safety coordinator give him a loaded gun
>>198608523>t. Alec Baldwin
>>198607985any kinos about going to prison because some boomer shot another boomer?
>>198608435>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
>>198608074Because heads must roll, but, God forbid, not the head of the Hollywood Royalty that brings in the money.
>>198608523Oh you sweet, innocent boy>The trio behind the monitor were two feet (0.6 m) from the muzzle of the firearm and none of them were wearing protective gear such as noise-canceling headphones or safety goggles.[15]The trio behind the monitor began repositioning the camera to remove a shadow, and Baldwin began explaining to the crew how he planned to draw the firearm.[13] He said, "So, I guess I'm gonna take this out, pull it, and go, 'Bang!'"[15] When he removed it from the holster, the revolver discharged a single time. Baldwin denied pulling the trigger of the gun, while ABC News described a later FBI report stating that the gun could only fire if the trigger was pulled.Tldr he was fucking around with a gun he thought only contained blanks, he completely disregarded safety and fired the gun for dramatic effect mid rehearsal, no one ever told him that ALL GUNS are dangerous. This is what happens when you left faggy liberals hold weapons
>>198608660Calm down, his head goes on trial in JulyHe's not free yet
>>198607985she's locked up and Baldwin is free and still abusing women in public, murica is a shithole
>>198608074This. If it's legal to enslave men to wage wars it should be legal to enslave women for breeding. Slampigs like her are perfect for this.
>>198609024wagie wars
>>198608630>Women prisons are le bad and evil because I say soGo get a source on that then wikipedia boy
>>198607985She had one job and failed miserably. She belongs in jail.
>>198609053https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot
>>198607985was she eating Cheetos?
Why does she have 2 smol antennas coming out of her head?
>>198608074She'll be out before Rust releases
>>1986091458 1/2 reference
Qrd? I didnt follow the trile
>>198607985>Why didn't I take them out to Denny's first?
>>198608772Why there was a live bullet in a movie set?
slam PIGE
>>198608791>He's not free yetwhen's the last time a hollywood star went to prison forever? they're about to let weinstein out.
>>198607985she literally has sauce stains around her mouth, what a pig
>>198609324Million dollar question
>>198609408it's not her fault the night before was Spaghetti night
>>198609341>seams straining due to the absolute girth of her ass and thighs
>>198609324one of the union guys that got fired was actually Agent 47
>>198608074The American legal process is pay to play, if you can afford some high priced jew lawyer who goes to the same synagogue as the judge you can literally murder people in broad daylight and get a slap on the wrist.
>>198608074Relief for prison guards.
>>198609108But you made the initial claim that womens prisons are as dangerous as mens... thats what you guys are arguing about...
>>198608772Ok now post the actual source. This didn't happen faggot
I don't know why armorers exist. Who wears armor?Although I guess there might be some jobs that require workers to wear chainmail. Like you're using huge knives and saws to butcher/process fish or meat.
>>198609821Why do Brits and their former colonies still use common law? Judges are too powerful in that system, no wonder why they and their ilk can get away with anything.
>>198607985Made (wo)man
anyone have her listed height and weight I’m thinking she is 5’3 and 180 lb
>>198608772>hum Jamie pull that up
>>198608588>I'm based.. YOU dont have an excuse...
She could duke it out with the slenderman chick
>>19860798518 months in the can, time served, out in 5 on good behavior... and not a peep.
>>198610287I absolutely love this webm. Particularly how he whips out the gun and fires out of nowhere, like this grumpy old bastard got fed up with all them kids breaking his balls
>>198610456>I wanted to upload a tiktok dance, I compromised>I twerked at the windows of the male penitentiary
>>198607985Baldwin still has a trial in July
>>198610287booba
>>198610287
>>198610493yeah she didn't take the fall for anything she deserved this. assistant director took a plea deal and alec has a trial next and he's gonna be found guilty as well.
>>198608243>here get locked up with a bunch of 80iq violent thugsShe'd fit right in then. I think she might actually be borderline retarded considering how she constantly fucked up such a simple job and how she acted throughout the trial
>>198609324This is the most important question.
>>198608046'Hired gun' would've still worked.
>>198610097It is however a fact that you needed to pull the trigger. Numerous gun youtube channels have done tests on the exact model of gun used and it wouldn't have fired any other way.
>>198608523>armorer loads a live bullet into the gun and declares it a "cold gun"Except she never did that.>the safety coordinator then takes the gun and inspects it and declares that its a "cold gun" and hands it to Alec BaldwinExcept that never happened.>somehow morons think its Baldwin's fault when his Armorer (the subject matter expert on set) and safety coordinator give him a loaded gunUnder New Mexico law, when a firearm causes an injury or death, a charge of manslaughter only requires that ‘ordinary negligence’ occur rather than the more stringent ‘criminal negligence’.Drawing, cocking, aiming and triggering a firearm you have not verified as safe is ‘ordinary negligence’, especially seeing as neither the armorer nor one of her two assistants were present on the set.You can argue Baldwin’s level of culpability but under NM law he’s absolutely negligent. He could have filmed in CA where rules are different and this wouldn’t have happened, but he cheaped out and went to NM where rules are more relaxed.He could have asked for a replica or prop weapon. He could have unloaded the weapon. He could have pointed it off to one side instead of directly at two other people.
>>198609145Those are receivers that wait for commands. She's a robot and Alec is controlling her to take the heat off himself
>>198610552When he's found not guilty of any crime, he will find you so you can apologize, Anon. I will find you.
>>198608074Isn't she the armorer? I don't understand, why wouldn't she go to prison?
>>198608074to stop them from getting more armourer jobs
>>198609324The company that supplied the trailer full of guns, prop guns, blanks and dummy bullets, PDQ Arm and Prop, had been given a number of live rounds reloaded from prop brass. This meant they were live rounds that to the untrained and incompetent they would have looked like dummy rounds. Gutierrez-Reed wasn’t knowledgeable, careful or experienced enough to spot the warning signs
>>198609324and this is why alec isn't going to jail and this woman is.
>>198610287How can you even die from that? It's just a small bullet that didn't even hit the brain
>>198609341she should get 20 years in my bedroom
>mommi pig threadswag
>>198610746Calm down, it was just a murder
>>198610287man these sniper elite sequels are getting weird
>>198609324>>198610729The armorer took her friends out shooting with the guns used in the film and they used live ammo and didn't clear them before taking them back.
>>198610874That's what (((they))) want you to believe. This is about white genocide, althoughbeit "Gutierrez" is not a name I would personally associate with white people.
>>198610969>althoughbeitAnother one for the filter you fucking faggot. Thank god I won't see your shitstain posts ever again.
>>198610983Thoughever is your problem?
>>198610818the best one is where you kill hitler by shooting him in his coinpurse and hes only got 1 ball hahaha
>>198610874Unsubstantiated. Claims have been made that members of the crew were involved in recreational live fire, but the ‘live rounds’ on the set were all reloaded from prop brass.
Toyota killed some people by releasing shitty cars that went on fire and no one got arrested. PPE fraud happened all over the world during Covid and no one got arrested or even their stolen assets taken back. Honestly dumb she got a prison sentence. Being barred from working with guns and paying a compensation to the bereaved alongside baldwins film company should’ve been the overall outcome
>>198611092False equivalence zzzzzzzzzz
>>198610730>How can you even die from that? It's just a small bullet that didn't even hit the brainFrom the webm I can tell it hit the heart. Massive bleeding in seconds.
>>198610287>be american>wear a mask because you are scared of a cold>get shot
>>198609815kek it does sound like something you would do in Hitman.
what did she know
>>198610287why did alec shoot that small booba woman?
>>198610465I like the part with the crew helping out the victim and Alec is nowhere to be seen. What he was doing? Laughing his ass off like a maniac?
>>198611393>>198610465lmao
>>198608074Justice. For being fatally poor at her job. Her role doesn't say "provide live rounds so that actors physically harm each other".
>>198611469>Justicebaldwin aint getting that tho is he
How much longer is this case going to drag out? Does it really take over 2 years to settle a fucking shooting like this?
>>198607985I can fix her
>>198609366Weinstein still has 16 years in prison on his other charges
>>198609170This is the best thing to have happened to her too. Now she's famous and will make an easy living off onlyfans.
>>198610287To be honest, this must be stated in public:For Baldwin to pull an Indiana Jones with a Luger on the tank with the NAZI's, but do it with a .45 instead, is pretty impressive.I would only be more impressed had he done it with a cap & ball .36 caliber using a half-load.>animation somehow shows his finger NOT on the trigger for a reason
>>198609821being rich certainly helps, but you also have to be on the correct political isle aswell, a republican in Commiefornia, no matter how rich, is in alot of trouble if he has to face a courtroom for so much as a traffic fine.trump right now in NYC is testament to this circus.
>>198611491when someone from the (((tribe))) is involved, yeah
>grow up with dreams of being in Hollywood, working with big stars yo produce kino, maybe even being somewhat of a star yourself>life is life though and you're instead an irrelevant crew member, never to be recognised by anyone, getting paid barely enough>one day, a big name actor who you remember from your childhood comes to you with an offer>take the fall and he'll give you more money than you can ever make in your miserable life, he's a little desperate so maybe you can even squeeze out some work deals after all is said and done>he'll be your go to man, your way in>but you have to take the fallDo you?
>>198609341need2breed
>>198609341>>198610777reminder shes an ugly dangerhair dykeits like that ezra mcandles chick growing her hair out and getting a perm before her trialdont fall for the trap
>>198611484you want the courts to start sending white men to prison? are you fucking insane
>>198612310>how do you do fellow whites
>>198612389>demorilization tactic
>>198611913I'm a guy so my "fall" will be 15 years in jail minimum. No thanks.If I'm a femoid? Maybe.
>>198612406 (You)[reply]
>>198608243>terrible terrible accident>entirely caused by this dumb bitch's stupidity because they didn't need live rounds there at all
>>198608772>no one ever told him that ALL GUNS are dangerousHe was told this on more than 50 prior occasions including during the filming of this particular movie
>>198607985She and her family will be well recompensated.
>>198613822Exactly.
>>198610097That's from the actual under oath court documents you retard you can go online and watch the entire trial
>>198610777Bump
>>198610620legally he's still culpable and juries are a coinflip so see you there.
>>198609341>>198610777>>198615344Shocking how growing out their hair, not dyeing it an outrageous color, removing facial/ear piercings, wearing a little makeup, and dressing conservatively instantly turns women from 3DPD to "Wife and mother of my children".
>>198608046at least you're trying, next time you'll get em good
>>198610637She didn't point a gun at someone randomly and pull the trigger. Also lots of sketchy DNC lawyer stuff behind the scenes. Pretty sure it was a hit.
>>198609341thought she was cute here but then saw more pics. dont let this pic fool you shes not cute
>>198616162>point a gun at someone randomly>actor with a supposedly play gun practice actingIt was her job to insure that the play gun was still a play gun and not a real gun so shit like this don't happen. Actors point guns at people all the fucking time. Have you never seen a movie before. You even see them pull the trigger.>but baldwin is a producer and hired her!Movies have dozens of producers and baldwin is probably just a producer in name alone. He probably didn't do anything that a producer really does and had nothing to do with her hiring.Baldwin is an idiot for saying he never actually pulled "the trigger". Guns don't work like that.
>>198608074Because she will get more people killed. She had two more armorer roles after the Rust shooting. It wasn't like she was stopping herself.
>>198611341The secret to eternal mommyhood.
>>198616179>but then saw more pics.post them
>>198607985all this trouble for some shitty video game adaptation.what's the plot of the flick even supposed to be? some australians blow up walls for 3 hours and find one shotgun in a box at the end?
>>198615344mommeh piggeh
They're going to eat her alive in girljail. female prisoners are notorious for hating above all people who lack appropriately rigorous professional discipline.
>>198608074To punish them. Rehabilitation is a lefty meme. There was a guy just recently sentenced for raping and impregnating a child. He got 50 years and physical castration. Why castrate him if he's going to prison for 50 years? It's solely to expiate the wrath of the everyday man through the legitimised force of the state.
>>198610181You're saying judges are too powerful under the jury system? Under what legal system do they have less power?
>>198616892I don't know about girlprison but male prisons are a lot more chill than everyone thinks. I did three years in a state prison and in the first month we all got covid money and whatever money they gave everyone. So we all had 3.5k spend and everyone bought xboxs and TVs. It was basically 3 years of playing call of duty and halo 3 on lan and watching free cable. They would also play 6 new move releases every month on a dedicated TV channel so I got to keep up on all new movies. I didn't even know they were making a clerks 3 before it played on the channel.It wasn't so bad. The facility I was at was air conditioned too so I got lucky. Every other prison in the state is older and you have to deal with extremely hot summers and freezing cold winters. There are also a couple places that are just open dorms which would have sucked as you get no personal property. No tvs or xboxs there.
>>198608523It doesn't matter if the gun is loaded or not. Even if you know a gun is empty you never point and click at someone unless you have intentions to kill them. It's the first and biggest rule of gun safety.
>>198617380In literally every movie with guns people point guns at another person and pull the trigger. Or pull the trigger in a room full of people or directly at the camera. Unless cameramen don't count as people.Have you never seen a movie with guns before?
>>198609341She is a big girl
>>198607985Lotta loyalty for a hired gun
>>198607985She killed that poor woman.
>>198617380>never happens everhttps://youtu.be/YlW2Ujl_BPI?t=66This nigger has never seen a John Wick film either.
>>198617441Most movies only use blanks. But Baldwin wanted to have both blanks and live bullets, for reasons.
>>198617441Saying never to do it during filming is pretty r*ddit, but the rule of always clearing a weapon still applies even if you're told it's empty.
>>198617441Can you really hold a woman accountable for a woman moment though? It's someone else's fault for letting them have that job in the first place
>>198617485Most movies use blanks and use camera tricks so the gun still isn't pointed directly at another person
>>198608243>Job: hey, just make sure there aren't live bullets or objects in the barrels Nepo cunt: fucks it upYeah I'm thinking this dumb bitch deserves it. Her job is to literally just check that there isn't deadly shit in firearm barels
>>198617085what are you retarded?
>>198617485>But Baldwin wanted to have both blanks and live bullets,Yeah you're just pulling that out of your ass. Why the fuck would he want live bullets?>>198617536Most movies today use CG but they are still using real guns. It's the armorers job to make sure they are safe and empty. I'm pretty sure movies like John Wick are all CG gunshots.In movies like HEAT where they do use blanks they are still shooting practically right at the camera.
>>198617606>I don't know know what prison is actually like but call others retarded.
>>198617637>Why the fuck would he want live bullets?He's the producer. Ask him. Probably to shoot at cans and bottles.>>198617637>It's the armorers job to make sure they are safe and empty.Yes but when the armorer places the gun in your hand it's now your responsibility to make sure it's safe and empty.
>>198617683Show me one source where baldwin has states he wanted live bullets.
>>198617680Okay so you are retarded.
>>198617715is that all you got?
>>198609341
>>198617706He's the producer. If there are live bullets it means it he has authorized it.
>>198610614Keanu is a literal bad ass!!
>>198616892>They're going to eat her alive in girljail. female prisoners are notorious for hating above all people who lack appropriately rigorous professional discipline.>herp derp my time in jailthey were making a joke you fucking idiot.
>>198617755really? Does it now. Producers are the ones that procure the ammo used on set.You've got fucking nothing.
>>198617755That's not what producers do
>>198617773why are you overreacting in this way, I enjoyed anon's prison anecdote. Maybe enjoyed is a strong word but I certainly enjoyed it more than I'm enjoying your madposting.
>>198609341LET HER OUT! LET HER OUT! LET HER OOOOUTTTTTT!!!!!
>>198608117Other armourers know what they're doing.
>>198617778>>198617789He doesn't procure it, but he must authorize it. Every decision has to go through him because he's the fucking producer. He's basically the boss. It's not the director or writers who runs the show, it's the producer.
>>198610614>The Virgin alec baldlose>The Chad Keanu Reeves>>198617768I completely agree with you.
>>198617818>Every decision has to go through him because he's the fucking producer.You have absolutely no fucking idea how movies are made. If you think every little decision has to go through the ONE PRODUCER then you are retarded. Movies have on average 9 producers.Have you never heard the term delegation before.
If this post ends in repeating numbers, alec baldlose will go to jail for the rest of his life sometime this year and get his asshole torn by niggers.
>>198616937>It's solely to expiate the wrath of the everyday man through the legitimised force of the state.God thats vased. So fucking zased
>>198609324>Welcome to New Mexico, 47. Your target, renowned kinomatographer Halyna Hutchins, can be found on set preparing the daily shoot for the day. With famous actor Alec Baldwin at the helm of production, you should expect a heightened and more observant security presence, but certainly nothing you haven't handled before. Good luck, 47.>THAT... is Halyna Hutchins, acclaimed director of photography, and covert operative for Providence. Stay sharp, 47.>Choosing a prop gun to incriminate the lead actor? Interesting choice as always, 47. Alas, I dare say a premature retirement for both parties is in order.>The target is down, and not even by your own hand! Excellent work, 47. The money is being transferred now, it's time to make your exit... stage left.
>>198609341do you think she's had sex since the shooting and up to when she was found 'guilty'
>>198610287wait, he just aimed at her? I thought it was during an actual recording session
>>198618194Yes that's what makes it extra fucked up. He had no reason to point his gun at her and fire. He still insists the gun fired by itself.
Absolutely pathetic that Baldwin won't go to prison.
>>198617683>Yes but when the armorer places the gun in your hand it's now your responsibility to make sure it's safe and empty.Absolute bullshit, why the fuck do you redditors keep making up this rule?
>>198618194>>198618317From what I read they were setting up a shot where he aims the gun in the camera's direction. That's why the director was lined up with the cinematographer to see what the shot would look like.It's dumb to deny that he pulled the trigger. He was told by the assistant director it was a cold gun and was brought from the armorers cart of firearms. The assistant director and baldwin both assumed it was a cold gun because of that.
>>198617778Stop falling for weak bait.
>>198618405You shouldn't expect actors to know how firearms work. It's not their job. That's why they hire safety crew like the armorer in the first place. They should just assume everyone is dumb and doesn't know how it works.Most celebrities have no idea how guns work yet are very vocal about gun control.
>>198618405The rule exists to prevent situations like this.>"But he said the gun was empty! It's clearly not my fault for pointing and pulling the trigger on what I thought was an empty gun.Treat every gun as if it's loaded no matter what. They are super strict about this at firing ranges.
>>198618433There's a lot of people in here making stupid claims like "never point a gun at something unless you want it dead." when every movie that has a gun has them pointed it at people and the triggers being pulled. People are just desperate to blame Baldwin for this. They also claim that producers are the ones that hire everyone, which is also fucking retarded. I have worked with producers in both the film and video game industry and they don't seem to do much other than make powerpoints and graphs. The exec producers hire a couple of finance people that allocate budget to different teams and if I ever wanted anything I would go to my departments manager and ask for it. Just like whoever need to procure bullets for the set didn't go to baldwin to see what he wanted. He would of had no decisions at fucking all when it came to getting the ammo for the movie.
>>198618522>at firing rangesGod you're retarded.
>>198618635>>198617715>>198617606>I have no counter-argument so I have to call him a retard!!!
>>198610614>armorer loads a live bullet into the gun and declares it a "cold gun">Except she never did that.Then how did the inert rounds make it into the gun along with the live round? Who loaded the gun??
>>198607985>takes the fall for Alec BaldwinNo, Baldwin's trial is in June or July, she's "taking the fall" for her own retarded actions like bringing live ammo to the set, taking the cast and crew out shooting in the desert with the movie guns, running a sloppy operation with unsecured guns and live ammo being up mixed with blanks and dummy rounds and not insisting on proper safety procedures on set.Yes, the shooting was Baldwin's fault, both as the guy with the gun in his hand and as a producer and thus responsible for the overall production and he should be convicted for involuntary manslaughter and get the book thrown at him (we'll see if that happens) but the armorer chick also deserved to be convicted.
>>198618900It was me, sorry.
>>198608117This, it all reeks of an intimidation ploy targetting armorers by the world's most powerful mafia, the US government
>>198618900the real round was fired from the Texas Book Depository
>>198618677For the firing range guy... comparing a movie set with actors to a live firing range is pretty retarded.
>>198618522>Treat every gun as if it's loaded no matter what.Please remind me which law this is.
>>198609341oh god I would pay anything for her panties
>>198608283Women are only held back from violence by the fear they have of men being more suited for it. When there's only women around their natural impulse to violence shows up.
>>198609341>they'll eat anything these days
>20 fuckin years, not a peep. And for what? To protect the likes of the studio? Of Alec fucking Baldwin?
>>198608772>>198617380Hi, reddit! If only Alec had observed proper trigger discipline, am I right?
>>198618080>covert operative for Providence
>>198619390
>>198608344It’s “wreckage” dumbass. I’ve got the jannies up my ass and you’re out here pulling stunts like this? That’s it. Give me your keyboard and your Baneposting license. And your other keyboard!
>>198618997There is no such law. That anon is overstating his case if he thinks that an actor on a set is held to the same standard as you or I would be if we were just fucking around with a gun in your backyard.But that doesn't absolve Baldwin of his role in this accident, and his actions can still be judged as grossly negligent. It will come down to the fact that no one instructed him to fire the gun and in fact by his own admission he nevee intended to fire the gun. The discharge was entirely due to his own negligent handling. The sad reality is that had the director intended for Baldwin to fire his gun, the saftey officer most likely would not have broken protocol by handing the gun to Bladwin, and instead would have brought Hannah onto the set to do the normal final check before handoff. So while an actor on set is not held to the same standard as someone just playing around with a gun for fun or sport, that does not mean they are held to no standard, and they can not just start firing a gun if the rest of the crew is not anticipating and prepared for it.
Why do famous actors keep killing women and getting away with it?
>>198619228>am I right?Yes.
>>198610151I can see why the gauntlets exist, but what type of machine are you using that you would need a chainmail apron?
>>198620750To be fair they drive on the wrong side of the road in Ireland so it wasn't really his fault
>>198608523Cold gun isn’t a real thinghttps://deadline.com/2021/11/george-clooney-on-rust-incident-thinks-gun-safety-1234874907/amp/“I’ve never heard the term ‘cold gun,'” Clooney said of his years of movie-making. “I’ve never heard that term. Literally. They’re just talking about stuff I’ve never heard of. It’s just infuriating.”
>>198618997It's not a law, but it is one of main rules you often hear about gun safety. The most common explanation behind negligent firearm discharges is "I didn’t think it was loaded.” By treating every gun as if it were loaded you reduce the risk of accidents.
>>198618460Wrong. SAG guidelines put the ultimate responsibility on the actor to maintain a safe environment, and Baldwin himself spoke of his extensive experience with firearms in his police interview. In a different interview another actor on the same set talked about how he checks his gun is safe after being handed it each time. Lastly, every single production with firearms involved has mandatory safety courses for anyone who will be using a gun. Anyone in the industry long enough will sit through dozens of these, along with heading to firing ranges to practice. There is no expectation of incompetence with actors, and that's why there has been less than half a dozen firearm fatalities in Hollywood over the last 110 years, only two of them involving live ammunition; Rust and a 1915 film called The Captive.
>>198620918>someone uses terminology you're unfamiliar with>It’s just infuriatingkwab
>>198611393Sometimes people go into shock at shit like this. One time a guy hit my bike with his car and he got out and just stared at me lying on the sidewalk in pain.
>>198621123This is very clearly a union document proclaiming your right to refuse risk to your own person. It is not a legal document that shifts responsibility onto you for the safety of yourself or others. No union in the world worth its salt would draft a document that confers additional legal liability onto its members. If such a rule exists, and I'm not saying that it doesn't, that document is certainly not proof of it.
>>198621278He probably went home and jerked off to the memory of you writhing around in agony helplessly on the ground.
>>198618997New Mexico Statute 30-2-3, manslaughter.>Involuntary manslaughter consists of manslaughter committed in the commission of an unlawful act not amounting to felony, or in the commission of a lawful act which might produce death in an unlawful manner or without due caution and circumspection.Due caution and circumspection is the key part here. By failing to adhere to basic firearm rules that any reasonable person is able to follow, Baldwin acted without due caution and circumspection while using a deadly weapon.
>>198621338Legal liability doesn't matter for the argument, it's a court of public opinion argument about whether or not actors are expected to be treated like retarded children when it comes to guns in the industry. They're very clearly not.
>>198621376>basic firearm rulesThere is literally no such thing. Not in the way you mean. Whether or not the use of a firearm was negligent is based entirely on the circumstances it is used, and every case is judged on its unique circumstances. There is no checklist of firearm rules that you must obey at all times for your use of a firearm to be justifiable. Baldwin is guilty because he was reckless and negligent. But not because he didn't inspect the gun beforehand. You can, on a movie set, delegate this role. He is reckless and negligent because he fired the gun without meaning to, and because he fired the gun when no one was expecting or prepared for him to do so. Had they handed him the gun and told him to fire it and it had killed Hutchinson Baldwin there would be no case against Baldwin even if he had not checked the gun to see what it was loaded with beforehand. But that is not the facts of this case. The fact is the gun fired due to his retardation, meaning he was the final piece in the tragic puzzle and he will face the consequence for that.
>>198621621Very good post
read the prosecutors argument on why Baldwin is guilty, he lied about all kinds of shit. His ass should fry for being such a retard too bad the crime they are charging him with is only 14 months in prison MAX
>>198621718Baldwin has been his own worst enemy here. In spite of everything he has made himself look even worse with his interviews, social media posts and attempts at obstruction
>>198621621>He is reckless and negligent because he fired the gun without meaning toHe clearly intended to fire the gun. The FBI did tests on it and found it couldn't have possibly been fired "by accident". That dumb nigger pulled the trigger and killed this woman
>>198621513You can't expect actors to know the ins and outs of how guns work. You can't expect them to even tell the difference between live and dummy ammunition. They shoot films where prepubescent children and women fire guns ffs. But what you can expect is for an actor to act with a level of respect for the inherent danger posed by firearms. That is where Baldwin fucked up, both in a legal liability sense and also in a moral sense. It wasn't his failure to check what the gun was loaded with, which was not his legal or moral responsibility, but his negligent discharging of the firearm.
>>198621758Did they subsequently destroy the gun in the process?
>>198621767>You can't expect them to even tell the difference between live and dummy ammunitionYou literally can. Baldwin easily made the distinction in his police interview.
>>198621767Baldwin has also been using firearms in film for like two decades
>>198621767>You can't expect actors to know the ins and outs of how guns work. You can't expect them to even tell the difference between live and dummy ammunitionWhen BALDWIN HIMSELF set up the film to use real guns, yes I can expect that shit you bumbling retard. I am not reading the rest of your post
>>198619431>only female armorer in the game>gets someone killedBut yeah, female custodes make sense
>>198621799They broke it after smashing it with a mallet a bunch of times to try to get it to accidentally go off. It never did
>>198621863I see
>>198621832Baldwin is an actor and actors are all dumb retards so it's not fair to expect them to know these things
>>198621758Yeah he either fired the gun intentionally, or he was accidentally holding the trigger down when he pulled back and released the hammer. Both scenarios are equally fucked for him though. Either he intentionally acted recklessly, or he was grossly negligent.
>>198619431>Women are 1% of all armorers >the 1% of armorers account for 100% of fatalitieswhat did she mean by this
>>198621621Failing to check the firearm is part of what the prosecution is accusing him of in their statement of probable cause. They're going to use it as evidence of his negligence in this unique circumstance. Last paragraph of the second last page.
>>198621912>Baldwin is an actor and actors are all dumb retards so it's not fair to expect them to know these things
>>198621976>unable to disprove
>>198621804>>198621816>>198621832You can easily make the claim that Baldwin should have known better. But that's not what anon was saying. He was saying that actors in general are expected to know these things which is not true. It's preferable but not a requirement or expectation. And either way it is not relevant because an actor is not required or expected to do a final gun check when handed a firearm on set.
>>198621956Those prosecutor really does seem to have it out for him too. She was pretty clear on that even during the other trialHope for kino
>>198610287https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7nFS_F-dGg
>>198621923Well he's been out and not in prison since the accident so it wouldn't help anyone if he went to prison now. Won't they just drop this? It was like two years ago
>>198622060
>>198608523gunfag here and you never point a gun at another person unless you want to end their life. If you're an actor doing a scene there's ways to do this where no one will know you're not aiming at them by changing camera angle. He carelessly pointed a loaded real firearm at a person and pulled the trigger which is at the very least a manslaughter involuntaryfaggot nigger should at least get probation or community service but come on let's be real you have money and fame you can do anything in America above normal peoplethe chunky thot shouldn't get in trouble unless other people do because the blame isn't solely on her alone that's fucking bullshit
>>198621956That is not what is says. It says not checking the firearm WITH THE ARMORER.What they are saying is that it is negligent to accept the firearm from a person on set who does not have the responsibility of checking the gun, as you can not be sure if the gun was adequately inspected. In other words you can delegate the responsibility of checking the gun, but you do have a responsibility to ensure that this person has done their check.
>>198622185According to Baldwin he was told to point it at HH by her. Therefore it was suicide.
>>198607985I'd do 18 months in prison to take the fall for Baldwin by accepting all responsibility if he paid me 10 mil.
>>198622222What if he paid you in digits?
Antigun left wing retards have no business playing with guns and making money off it alec baldwin deserves prison stalker child
>>198621956Bro im not reading that I don't gave a spare hour
>>198622207>but you do have a responsibility to ensure that this person has done their checkWhich means witnessing the check with your own eyes, effectively the same as if you're doing it with your own hands. That is not delegation.
I watched like an hour of the trialthe guy they ordered the blanks from had a bunch of live rounds and blanks mixed together, his office was a messy shit showand experts said there's no way to distinguish a blank from a live round just examining them next to each otherthe only reason they actually are throwing her in prison is so Baldwin can get off, and somebody had to go down
>>198622427Yeah I'm sure your hour long insight is worth listening to.
>>198610746A bit cruel and unusual
>>198618973You're right.
>>198622447lmao I just meant i barely watched any of it and it was still blatantly obvious the fix was inwhy was the guy who mixed in live rounds with blanks not on trial, when the armorer girl had no possible way of knowing he did?
>>198622398>Which means witnessing the check with your own eyesNah you are misinterpreting the word check in this context. Checking and inspecting are synonymous in general speech. But this is a legal document. If they meant that Baldwin had a duty to inspect the gun with the armorer, then they would have used the word inspect. Check in this context means to ensure something has been done. This is how it is typically used in an employment context. The boss checks that you have finished stocking the shelves before he locks the backroom not by physically examining the shelves but by simply asking you. In this case checking the firearm with the armorer simply means getting confirmation from the armorer that the firearm is safe.
>>198622723He has immunity.
>>198622835why?
>>198622845Yes
>>198609341this is what peak defendant looks like
>>198622845They offered a deal to a bunch of the people on set, including the safety officer and first AD, who frankly have just as much responsibility for this as Hannah and Alec. They did this to make it easier to go after the more high profile people that the public was most angry with. Hannah and Baldwin copped on the media flack from the outset, so that's who they choose to go after, and the easiest way was to cut a deal with the other people on set.
>>198622723The police gave that supplier two weeks to cover his tracks too.Iirc the issue is that the armorer still had her own live rounds on set and was doing live firing after work. That combined with her negligence and general unprofessional behaviour contributed to it being just as likely that the rounds can come from her. If she hadn't ever done that it would be more clear cut.
>>198610446that ain't no slender man>>198610456more like 18 months between the cans
>>198608074Hot prison dyke sex
>>198622777>The boss checks that you have finished stocking the shelves before he locks the backroom not by physically examining the shelves but by simply asking youNo, you don't get to do that with a gun. That's where the comparison fails and actual context for how the industry works is needed. The actor gets to witness it being loaded by the armorer, or failing that, gets to ask for the armorer to open it and show that it is safe. That is a check. Baldwin in the police interview talks about how Reed would offer this but he would refuse. They both fucked up there, Reed for not setting him straight on safety and him for thinking double-checking her work is somehow rude.Alternatively, some actors dry fire the gun into the ground to be sure all chambers have dummies. That's also a check. Ackles, another actor on set, says that is his usual practice.Simply getting verbal confirmation is negligence. It's a deadly weapon, not a shelf. To put it another way: no reasonable person would put the gun to their own head and pull the trigger after only getting verbal confirmation.Just because it's a legal document does not mean the writer is a perfect automaton with exact definitions on mind for every word. The prosecutor and defense lawyers were both getting terminology incorrect all through the trial despite having worked on the case for so long. The difference between check and inspect is tiny compared to some of their mistakes.
>>198607985>takes the fall for Alec BaldwinAlec's trial is in July. I know you faggots are really fucking retarded and love to post threads that are complete disingenuous lies, but how retarded do you need to be to fuck up the fact that BOTH were responsible and BOTH are having separate trials. Faggot.
>>198619013Why not? Zimmerman auctioned off his gun. She can auction off her stuff.
>>198612068pics?
>>198616339>yeah i mean baldwin's name is on the project as responsible for the outcome but like you know he isn't *really* in charge you know?>this woman who was prohibited from being on set because of ridiculous paranoia covid policies is directly responsible for the death of a cinematographer because someone else pointed a firearm at her, a non-actor, and pulled the triggerIt's fascinating you don't see the duplicity in your post.
>>198623966It's not standard practice for an actor to check every round loaded into a gun when on set. Don't know where this idea comes from. Sure, it takes two seconds to check a revolver, but there are action scenes where actors are dumping full box magazines one after the other, take after take. It's not feasible for the actor to sit there with the armorer and inspect every bullet that goes into a dozen magazines. That just isn't a thing that happens.
>>198607985>A LOTTA LOYATLY FOR A HIRED GUN ARMORER
>>198624574For you.
>>198607985and once again /tv/ is proven wrong
>>198608074Criminally negligent people or phat ass white girls?
>>198610619I knew Alec was controlling her
>>198610565She was a nepo hire, her dad was a big set-armorer apparently.
>>198607985how do I find myself a thicc latina murderer like this?
Do women really wear porn hairstyle to court?
>>198625829>porn hairstylecoom brain
>>198622060kys scumbag. you will pay for your lies
>>198625829>porn hairstyle coomer zoomer retard.
>>198625829Evocative of Zsa Zsa Gabor. A true beauty.
>>198617051Look at other more civilized white countries like the nordics or Germany, judges aren't all powerful there
>>198610287>shot her in the tittyat least he didn't consensually grab her by the pussy like drumpf would do!
>>198627185How so?
>>198607985i matched with her on tinder a while ago, thought she was out of my league but i decided to shoot my shot anyways
>>198609341How hot is this PAWG going to be after working out in prison for two years?
>>198610287They got the positions right, but her back was to him, which makes Baldwin's actions even more outrageous.
>>198608074They cant jail rich people, its agaisnt the law
>>198607985She fucked herself by talking shit about the judge and jurors on the phone from jail BEFORE being sentenced. The prosecutors were watching her like a hawk and used that to get the maximum.But 18 months is nothing.
>>198625829shes a hooah
>>198628566Imagine making love to a beautiful, naked woman in the dim light of the evening budoir. You look down and see a giant spider on her belly. What do?
>>198616937>impregnating a childHow on earth did he do that?
>>198608772shut the fuck up /k/. no one cares about your gayass gun safety rules. those whores didn’t do their jobs properly, and that’s criminal neglect. baldwin’s job is simply playing pretend, not knowing his way around guns. simple as.
>>198608074Let's be real here. One of the points of prison is for society to unleash its desire to torment and inflict pain upon someone powerless. It's somewhat like the Purge, a safety valve for people to channel their desire for violence and sadism. That's why people cream themselves trying to justify why this woman needs to be thrown into a bunch of 80 IQ violent criminals (with maybe some trannies for company even), that's the real thing about it that people try to rationalize away with muh justice. We all know this woman was irresponsible but isn't a danger to society, and really, even if she killed someone, she should just get community service or pay a fine and be banned from working as an armourer or related professions. Prison should really be for the kind of people who are a permanent danger to others and who need to just be removed from social life.
>so incompetent even daddy's connections can't save you
>>198628790She was 17 years 364 days old you sick fuck
>>198628566Damn that is a very nice tummy, I bet she's a little freak in bed
>>198610777She's in better shape than you will literally ever be in your entire life
>>198611491A buddy of mine stabbed his dad and girlfriend to death, called the cops on himself and admitted it and it still took 3 years and some months before he got his life sentence
>>198607985At this point I would just murder everyone involved in trying to keep my in prison until some fat faggot gets me with a lucky shot because he's wearing his infinite ammo headband.
>>198628998wtf why did he do that? what drives someone to just kill like that it blows my mind
>>198628761>>198628932https://www.flickr.com/photos/zombieite/albums/72157689385406352/with/38783158465
>>198625895>>198625952>not wanting to fuck a slampig with porn hairstyle You have to go back
The criminally negligent motherkiller deserves to be raped in prison ass to mouth!
There was a female juror in Florida the other day that recieved a 6 month prison sentence for intentionally causing a mistrial in a death penalty sentencing trial. Does that mean causing a mistrial is one third as bad as negligently killing someone? Or I guess one sixth as bad if you assume Baldwin gets the 18 months as well.I really don't understand sentencing.
>>198615667The worse part is that they know they could do it but they chose not to.
>>198629720It's insecurity mixed with entitlement. They feel fucked up inside so they have to express that outside because they deserve someone who will love them fkr who they are. At no point does it cross their mind to try and strive to be a better person.
>>198619431the only thing she can think about is her "career" and muh feminism after causing the death of another human being
>>198610287>my cartoon made by poos says he did not have his finger in the trigger guard, therefore, I win
>>198609324Because Baldwin was careless and didn't check the weapon he was handed yet we are supposed to blame anybody but the man holding the gun.it's a moot point anyway because even if the gun was actually unloaded he shouldn't have done it
>>198609815>>198611306There's a vocaroo of this, don't think I ever saved it
>>198629828Alec baldin did that
HAHAHAHA enjoy being passed around the resident nigger crew.Who's the little pay piggy now you disgusting cunt?
>>198608074The real answer is if you take her case independently there is no reason to imprison her, she is not a harm to society, the victim is already dead, it's a sunk cost. At a societal level however, if there is no punishment for the crime there is no deterrent for someone else to intentionally do the same thing she did since they will know that they will not be punished for it. Therefore you have to punish her to prevent the same thing from happening again.
