Sara Hess editionpreviously on: >>200445793
Honestly, I don’t really like this show, and I think I am wasting my time discussing it. In fact, discussing anything ASOIAF is a big waste of time because we will never get a conclusion. Looking at twitter, clearly I am not the demographic for this show. I think I’m done.
>>200449295see ya sunday
I think Jace's actor being a manlet is more distracting than the DEI casting.
>>200449238>From 2005 to 2012, Hess worked on the medical drama series House, for which she wrote 17 episodes.No wonder this show sucks.
>succesfully marry your daughter to the king, start pushing for their oldest son Aegon to become the future king>you have to leave court so you instruct your daughter to prepare Aegon to rule in your stead>she fucks it up because she's really just a jilted closet lesbian who wants to spite Rhaenyra and doesn't understand anything beyond that>oh well, you come back when the boy is 12-13 years olds so there's still time to prepare him to rule>for some reason you DON'T ever do that, you treat him like he doesn't exist>with no purpose in life the boy quickly falls into an endless loop of sleep-drink-fuck-sleep with 0 wish or skill to be king>despite this you keep pushing the plan for him to become king, hoping it'll go fine anyway because surely that kind of person is easy to manipulate>you put the boy on the throne even though he himself says it's a bad idea>once he becomes king it turns out a neglected alcoholic half-Targaryen teenager doesn't want to be a puppet? woah who could've guessed?>your long term ambitions eventually backfire when the king's brother kills an envoy so the king's infant son is assassinated as retaliation>the king finds out one of the killers was a ratcatcher but was never caught, so he hangs the city's ratcatchers>the damage done by this is miniscule compared to the advantage you gained from the funeral procession of his son>but you sperg out as if he proved himself as the second Maegor because you cannot cope with not being fully in control of a passive king like before>sperg out about the new king being shit, even though he's pretty much what your neglect and manipulative ambitions have wrought>you commit a stupid self-sabotage speech to get yourself fired because you know you fucked up but you're too angry to think straight>reddit misinterprets this whole scene and goes "omg Otto tried so hard but Aegon ruined everything 10/10 scene Dabid"
>>200449325Why didn't she boil the water before she drank it?
>>200449295?The show is the conclusion. If George makes another ASOIF book, its basically fanfiction
Will grandma Alice be the one on her knees now that Cole is hand and her daddy is gone?I was sensing a lack of female empowerment in that final scene anons.Has the matriarchy been shaken?
>>200449364Targaryens are notoriously afraid of hot water
>>200449295>In fact, discussing anything ASOIAF is a big waste of time because we will never get a conclusion.It's only fun to discuss because there is no definitive ending. I can almost guarantee that if GRRM finished the book series, everyone would hate it. He knows this too, whatever he writes will never be as good as what schizo theorists have come up with online, all he can now do as an author with what little time he has left is flesh out his world's lore so that others can continue to tell stories without him.
>>200449371It's all fanfiction. You think Martin was trying to craft some great piece of literature?
How many other fuckups lie ahead of him?
Reminder that Green Arryk actually won the fight and took his life instead of killing Rhaenyra
>>200449238 yesterdays episode... despite the rough beginning it was SO good>Great Otto Scenes, Great Helena scenes, Good pacing, Aemond fanservice, Cute Addam scenes >Cole and Daemon act like cunts and get ownedwe are so back
>>200449238Do you feel it bros… something is coming soon.. I smell it… on the WINDS… hes telling us. Trust the fucking plan bros…
>>200449556Cole acted like a cunt and got promoted then fucked Alicent.
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>>200449574It's going to be 900 pages of the life of Strong Belwas leading up to his service with Dany followed by a brief description of the continuing siege of Meereen before introducing several exciting new characters from previously unseen lands.
>>200449574he is writing the script of the knight spinoff
>>200449574
>>200449776He promised us in 2016 he wouldn’t write anything untill winds was finished, THOUGH.
>>200449574fool me once shame on youfool me twice etc etc
>>200449736but what’s what a feast for crows and a dance with dragons was already :(
>>200449813words are wind
>>200449776https://youtu.be/1lEtRhrdFFU?si=YHEyF9jmZvq03wwS
>>200449813bruh
Why didn't they give her a better wig? I really like the outfit but her hair is awful.
Who is the worst character in HOTD and why is it Mysaria?
>>200449932She is not the worst character but she is by far the worst actress
>>200449932How did she get that scar?
>>200449383They said after season 1 that they wrote Alicent to be like a 'woman for Trump'All the themes of female empowerment are outsourced to Rhaenyra because >Alicent bad Alicent MAGA far right incel chud>Rhaenyra qween slay #freepalestine #pridemonth #decolonize
>>200449958Who is worse?
>>200449932I immediately disliked her because she was no tits. Nice nipples tho.
>>200449860Yeah, and they were best sellers.
>>200449995Aemond
Did I miss something?Couldn't they just have asked Halaena who the ratcatcher was instead of killing them all?
>>2004499321: cole2: that bitch3: alicent And I’m a green chad. 3 best characters 1: aegon 2: aemond3: otto
>>200450010She's barely lucid on a good day.
https://press.wbd.com/us/bio/house-dragon-s2-character-descriptions>Archie Barnes as Ser Oscar Tully, the young grandson of Grover Tully, heir to Riverrun and future Lord Paramount of the Riverlands.Kermit and Oscar are now one character it seems>Abigail Thorn as Sharako Lohar, an eccentric Lysene commander of the Triarchy fleet.kek this troon has contacts, i wonder if wynn feels angry about his impending success in the industry>Jordon Stevens as Elinda Massey, a trusted handmaiden to Queen Rhaenyra.Why did they dressed her like a handmaiden lmao
>>200449923if she was white this wouldn't be a problem
>>200449607his day of reckoning will be upon him, dont worry.
>Rewatch the scenes again to confirm>Blood says Cheese was a ratcatcher employed by the household>During the scene showing the hanging a woman whose son was hanged says that it was the ratcatchers that were employed by the King>Speedwatching faggots acting like Aegon ordered the deaths of every ratcatcher in King's Landing>Look at the shot of them hanging, literally just 10 ratcatchers.>Cheese was among themSo basically, Aegon set shit straight and is a bad thing, why?
>>200449295at least stay a bit until comfy off season /hotd/ewan/ starts
>>200450089It feels like the black characters just aren’t in the show. My brain just phases them out. To me, corlys and baela just weren’t adapted.
>>200450117Real. The "writers" of this show are ass. I dont know why they hate my green niggas. I also dont know why Cole is hated, I thought he was cool, he has that real go-getter energy.
>>200450117Yeah in retrospect Otto's outburst over ratcatchers really feels like making a mountain out of molehill, and is more about reaching a boiling point for Otto because he's frustrated by not being able to control Aegon the way he did Vissy T.
>>200449295Nothing is for you chud, so just stop talking forever.
>>200450117Same writer thought Rhaenys killing a couple hundred people was an awesome girlboss moment and its never mentioned again or used against the Blacks. Don't try to make sense of a Sara Hess episode shes a fucking retard and extremely biased.
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>>200449542Dude was a real one until he pulled that punk shit.>>200450000Bitch also has one of the flattest asses I've ever seen, fucking horrible
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>>200450019Cole is not likeable, however he is basically consistent (in that he's consistently impulsive, insecure, and dishonest), and I'm not bored whenever he's on screen. He also helps move the plot forward on a number of occasions.Mysaria on the other hand is extremely boring and I'm hard-pressed to name any character traits she has, and while she does move the plot forward she could easily have been cut and substituted with a quick reference to an unnamed informant who we wouldn't need to see or hear more about.
>>200450207also, like the dude in the last thread said, the autismo wife (cute) saw the ratcatcher, she could have just pointed him out.
>>200450163>>200450207Cole's plan would have worked too. Hell, Otto basically had the same ideas. He killed the nobles that didn't bend the knee and he was planning to sent out assassins to Dragonstone to just kill Rhaenyra. Seems that his overreaction is from him not knowing and/or not being in control. Which is understandable but overall handled poorly. Rhys acting was fucking amazing though.
>>200450300They wrote themselves into a corner with Mysaria and it doesn't help her actress is terrible. She should be more like Larys but they refuse to write a woman character that does anything underhanded or treacherous.
Lel
>>200450379Rhys acting is the only reason why everyone is overlooking how fucking retarded that scene was.
>Going to assassinate Rhaenyra>Let me just unsheathe my sword while I'm 20 feet away from her and go on a monologue about how sorry I am
The one good thing I’ll give this show is that I appreciate that people actually talk medieval style and don’t sound like modern marvel characters like how they did in seasons 7-8 of agot
>>200450300Mysaria at the very least will have a kino and satisfying death
>>200449295Greencels have just given up kek
>>200450517Lol no. They’ll frame it as some injustice.
>>200449295>I'm totally giving up on this show bros>Green pictureIt just keeps happening.
>>200450117Hanging 9 (10 as far as the public knows) innocent dudes outside the castle doesn't exactly bode well to the average citizen.
>>200450619what about killing 200 of them at a coronation ceremony? nobody seems to mind that
>>200449932I can't rank them but Criston, Rhaenys, and Alicent are most mishandled major characters.Criston's original idea behind the character was deleted, now he just morphs into whichever strawman the writers need to galvanize the audience's hatred and digsust.Whenever Rhaenys speaks some kind of smug gender war vomit dialogue comes out, and this attitude results in the worst scene of the show so far (Aegon's coronation being interrupted by Meleys).Alicent now exists to be a closeted Rhaenyra supporter, a blank slate for female directors to self insert into, and an insufferable hypocrite to galvanize normie hatred together with Criston. The only episodes with good Alicent characterization were episodes 6 and 7.I kind of wanna count Rhaenyra in here too because show Rhaenyra has absolutely nothing to do with book Rhaenyra and it's because of the exact same reasons why Rhaenys is the way she is.. but I think the actress is good and the character is consistent enough so far.
>>200449295Greenchads are developing Stockholm syndrome
Wait, so jace and Luke have the last name velaryon, so If the dance didn’t happen and chudgon never righteously seized the throne from the whore, when she died, the velaryons would be the new ruling dynasty and the targaryens would just be a Valyrian noble family with no lands?
>>200450544Well she’s still an annoying cunt and I’ll be glad to see her shamed and killed
>>200450619No one raised a fuzz about Daemon killing and maiming over a dozen people in S1. No houses showed discontent over Otto killing nobles. No one cared about Rhaenys killing dozens in the Dragonpit.
>>200450619Didn't Daemon with his gold cloaks go on a rampage in KL one night? The smallfolk weren't too affected. Rhaenys killing hundreds at the coronation didn't seem to affect them either, and Otto didn't use that event to score political points. So with that context it's a bit over the top for Otto to blow a gasket because the king killed ten ratcatchers, one of which slew his son.
>>200449970>Wanna see a magic trick, Rhaenyra?
>>200449363>DabidAnon, you're complaining about ghosts. They're not involved
>>200449447He's already fucked two queens, what more do you want from him?Rhaenys? Vhagar?
>>200449447He’ll do nothing but fuckup in the coming episodes. I’d say sending Aegon to the front lines and getting Jason Lannister killed are the most egregious in the near term. He goes completely off the rails once he loses control of Aemond
They keep changing Joffrey's actor. This time it's a kid younger than the previous one from the first season.
>>200450000Tits are not important.
>>200449363>reddit misinterprets this whole scene and goes "omg Otto tried so hard but Aegon ruined everything 10/10 scene Dabid"The truth is far worse. The truth is that this is how the writers themselves interpret this scene, because their grasp of these characters and their archetypes sucks, and they don't think through the comparisons or contradictions they create.
>>200450719>>200450750>Daemon killingAt that point people had plenty of food, and there was no imminent war.>No houses showed discontent over Otto killing noblesThat parts just genuinely retarded.>Dragon PitAlso retarded
>>200450619medieval people loved a good execution, and these are ratcatchers. They're one step above body collectors in most peoples eyes. Its not like Aegon started lynching shopkeepers.
>>200450689In the show Viserys says that Jace will take the name Targaryen when he inherits the throne. Don't remember that be part of the book though.
>>200450300Stockholm greenbro. cole sucks and he’s frustrating to see, which is worse than boring. He just acts like a fucking gay baby retard
>>200450867I noticed that too. The kid seemed younger to me so it seems it's a recast.
>>200450777Their echo is felt throughout the show
>2 weeks give or take since Aegon was crowned.>All his planning, scheming and maneuvering to secure Aegon on the throne.>Aegon does one fucking thing without talking to him. The first time he went behind his back.>Alright, I quit, fucking off to Oldtown and chilling with Daeron.I really hate when a show gets more retarded the more I think about it.
>>200450619It’s ratcatchers who murdered the royal heir. You understand nothing about the medieval mindset, all of the small folk would rejoice and party, except for the families of the hung.
>He's pretending to be his own twin. Brilliant.
>>200451034Just stop thinking chud.
The kings guard armor is horrible, the black and red dudes at dragon stone look cool though. Daemons armor looks great except for the spirit Halloween plastic helmet
>>200451034>otto quits as hand in episode 2 in the stupidest way possibleIt’s staggers how bad the writing quality has gotten since season 1. Like fuck Otto is hand for a much bit longer than this in the books and it isn’t disagreement over 20 dead rat catchers. Like the only way they can continue the plot is making everyone stupid so Otto can go to the reach.
>>200451039hanged
>>200451034It has ridiculous pacing issues which dont help.Otto goes from, "hmm, that was a politically foolish and rash decision to kill Lucerys" to "NOOOO MY HECKIN RAT CATCHERINOOOOS" in a single episode
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>>200451065I love Aegon so much
>"Aegon is still malleable" >"It is the death of the death of the child that has unstrung him">Sees Aegon crying alone, completely vulnerable, perfect time to offer some words and steer him in the right way, maybe actually have a touching scene where they show some humanity>Goes to get some Cole dick insteadI swear, if Ep3 ends with another Cole and Alicent fuckfest, I'm dropping it and not looking back.
>>200450973What makes you think that body collectors and ratcatchers would be hated? You might not want to have lunch with them but they keep the city clean and if you start killing them you're inviting plague.
>>200451127There is no specified disagreement in the books Aegon just decides the hand isn't doing his job. Its accelerated in the show and comes off very abrupt and out of character for Otto but they are moving forward to the battles which require Cole to be hand and Rhys did a great job with the scene despite it being retarded.Its really not that insane of a change compared to some other things.
>>200451203It'll be revealed that Alicent only lets him fuck her in the ass so that its still honorable
>>200451175He stole this episode. Whoever is 100% black after seeing Aegon and Helaena's suffering this episode is a faggot.
>>200450867I come forgot about this kid
>>200449556Daemon did nothing wrong
>>200450647I think that Emma Darcy, though a bit of a clown irl, is not a bad actress, and she seems very wasted on show Rhaenyra. In particular, the scene where she argued with Daemon about the murdered prince really irritated me, because she was presented as so unbelievably naive and innocent, as if she was only just now figuring out that Daemon is like this, and it gets on my nerves that in the name of making it so that Rhaenyra never does anything morally dubious, she is stripped of agency and nuance. At the very least she should be presented as being tacitly involved in what Daemon did. I suppose she is, in that she's attracted to him specifically because he's a psycho, but is too stupid to join the dots that being a psycho means doing actually bad things, but the writers certainly don't want to acknowledge that.
>>200450867Why did he throw up a wooden horse? Is it supposed to be symbolic?
>Randomly remember some of the old youtubers I used to watch back in the GoT days, go through and see if any are talking about HotD.>See Dragon Demands, remembering enjoying him be a cringey turbosperg about D&D and all the ways they ignored the books.>All of his HotD videos are just total showrunner/writer dicksucking excusing every single retarded change they've done.What the fuck happened to him lmao.
>>200451227>What makes you think that body collectors and ratcatchers would be hated?Because they were in actual medieval times they were seen as deeply unclean and at the bottom of the social pyramid so the jobs went to social outcasts.
>those rooks rest rumorsIt’s over for us team green chads.
>>200450010they could have just asked the guard who already told them literally everything elseguess suspect line ups hadn't been invented yet though
>>200451336They burning their brother's posessions instead of his body.
Do people normally feel worse for the parent than the child when the killing of a child occurs? And only on the mother?I was wondering about that with the way Alicent and Rhaenyra were both written to be more sympathetic for Helaena than for Aegon or Jaehaerys, or even his sister Jaehaera
>>200451331That scene is great when you ignore Rhaenyra and focus on Daemon being an obviously unhinged wife beater only restrained because Rhaenyra is the "Queen". I haven't seen anyone mention that part where he instinctively goes to choke her but takes a step back and tries to sweet talk her.
>>200451350Actors and prostitutes were at the bottom of the medieval social pyramid. Ratcatchers and body collectors provided a service. If you kill them you either deal with rats and corpses piling up or you need to find someone else to catch rats and collect bodies.
>>200451240The reason in the books was the same as what it should’ve and easily could’ve been in the show. Aegon wants fire and blood and otto wants a 10 year long master plan to avoid war and scheme his was to victory.The show did a good enough explanation of this but then they did the retarded rat catcher shit
>>200451386Aren't they supposed to throw him in the ocean?
>George now gets to have two shows that butcher his work
>>200451399Well, the kid is death. It is not expressed as cold as how Alicent showed but the suffering of the parents is usually sadder since the thought process would be that the suffering of the child is over and he is in heaven. Which leaves only the parents to grieve. Helaena is the one that has to live with the event and some might see that as worst than dying.
>>200450990>He just acts like a fucking gay baby retardWell, yeah, that's his character. He's a very insecure, neurotic, sulky young man who has unfortunately been trained as a killer. The one aspect that does kind of annoy me, from a realism standpoint, are his affairs with Rhaenyra and Alicent, there's no way Cole would ever be around royal women unchaperoned.
>>200451331The women were more girlbossy in the books. In the show they are helpless retards who just react to what the men do, the men are the ones in control of every single aspect of the conflict, in the books the two queens had much more of an active role, but it makes them guilty and not 100% innocent naive mothers who get to quip at the foolish men for starting wars n shit
>>200451373What are they?
greenfag here>>200450867 Jace would be a great father unironically
>>200451415I liked the scene right before in the council when Rhaenyra's ranting that she'd never cut off a baby's head and Daemon's sitting there trying not to laugh.
>>200451494Good. Fuck that fat hack for selling to HBO.
>>200451462Wrong + Nice pop history faggot. There were some jobs, such as executioner, where you were so bottom of the pyramid you weren’t even allowed to live in the same village as people
>>200451349He genuinely thinks Winds in coming this year so he’s in a state of delirium
>>200451532showfags are the worst Fab-io's one cool guy
>>200451512>he’s a shitty character on purpose Still don’t like him or think it’s good. You can have unstable psychos like daemon and still have them be kino. Coles just an annoying loser
>>200451487In Velaryon fashion, yeah, I suppose it was Rhaenyra's choice for him to be given a Targeryan burial. That's kinda funny, didn't think about that since Luke technically should be treated as a Velaryon.
>>200449574I’m feeling it, bro.
>>200451415Yeah, I have no complaints about how Daemon has been written and portrayed, he's been a seething dark triad nutcase since day 1 and they have actually stuck to that and are following it to its logical conclusion, so that's nice.
>>200451532He's getting attacked by pajeets. That's hilarious
>>200451127>booksThere's only one book and it gives little info on anything between Otto and Aegon and even less reason with it only being the Otto wasn't immediately leading an army. If you adapted that then it makes Aegon look megastupid as there's no disagreements other than "huh ur slow at acting bye" and then Otto sits around and does nothing until he's executed. Wow amazing character 10/10 why dun they do it like in da "books"!?
>>200451373yeah i read them too, if it ends up true i think even the most hardcore team Black supporter will realize the showrunners going nuclear on Greens is not good for the overall narrative
>>200451512He seems to be quite an adept queenfucker with years of experience. The man has his merits.
>>200451532well isnt Cole in the books as much as an asshole in the show? Fabien played his part perfectly then...
>>200451552Bullshit. Who's gonna tell the executioner to move out of the village?
>>200451585Hes the Ramsey of this show. Just comically evil and insecure so when his death scene happens all the showfags can soiface in their reaction videos. The writers know their core audience well, unfortunately.
>>200451532I remember when team black attacked Olivia, phia and ewans looks, sent death threats to Tom and now this. And then they get mad when someone makes fun of Matt smith looking like an ape.
>>200451587They actually gave him a Strong burial like his dad got.
>>200451532Indians and Spics believe HotD is actually real
How come the tardgaryens never acquired anymore land in the kingdom, despite ruling it for hundreds of years? How come they just have dragonshitstone and kings landing lol. Irl most kingdoms had lots of cadet dynasties of the ruling dynasty ruling many of the lands
>>200451373ALLEGEDLY in episode 3 aegon and aemond will go to some brothel to drink and aegon will poke fun at aemond for only bedding the first woman he's ever been withapparently aemond will take this so personally he'll deliberately sabotage rook's rest, leave aegon hanging against rhaenys, only jump into the fight to fuck up rhaenys & aegon both when their dragons are tangled, ep 4 will end with cole finding aemond over aegon (seemingly dead) as if he wants to finish him
>>200451585>Coles just an annoying loserThey want him to be this way, they didn't adapt any scene that made Cole look intimidating or powerful.>>200451672>Hes the Ramsey of this show.He's no where close to Ramsay. Ramsay's cruelty was his biggest character trait and why people wanted to see him pay, same with Joffery. Cole has none of that, only pettiness and hypocrisy without any of the flair of a good villain.
>>200451735I will kill my self if this happens, greenbros
>>200451585You're conflating shitty person with shitty character. And I never said I liked Cole, or that I think he's supposed to be liked.>Coles just an annoying loserYes, that is his role and personality, and it's played in a fairly realistic way which serves the plot, that's really all I'm looking for from this part.
>>200451532kekthat's exactly why no one cares about the smallfolk, they're fucking retarded
Olivia Cooke, Phia Saban, and Emma D'Arcy are all fine choices to play QUEENSi also wonder how their armpits / underarms / axillae smell like ? HMMMmmmmmm??
>>200451735I guess they let Hess do 2 episodes in a row then.
>>200451783Hnnnng
This whore kinda looks like Alicent.
>>200451729And isn't owning land the primary source of income for feudal lords?
>>200451766I’m not. My whole point was, a character can be a shitty person (daemon) but still be a good character. Cole is a bad character and bad person. A character can also be a good person but bad character, like late seasons John I dun wunnit snow
>>200451783Why fags like pits so much?
>>200451622Your expectations of Team Black are way too high, there will just be edits between Daemon and Viserys and Aegon and Aemond to demonstrate that Team Green has no loyalty.
>>200451735this sounds fucking awful and suspiciously like something Hess & Condal would consider subversive genius, so it's probably true
>>200451818Yes it’s the entire income, the king has vassals who rule land for him and he gets a percentage, but the king gets 100% of the income if he just rules it himself, and he doesn’t have to be there, they just send bailiffs and shit
>>200451754No shit they aren't the same character but they fill the same role of being a lightning rod for the fan's hatred.
>>200451622sure it's not. Just like when GoT went nuclear on the lannisters
>>200451844Then the appointed steward will be de facto a feudal.
You could've saved her /hotd/
>>200451729Baratheons are meant to be bastard Targs I think
>>200451844You'd think that a guy who took the time to bitch about Aragon's tax policies would give a little more depth to his fantasy world's government. They seem to make most of their money by borrowing it from foreigners.
>>200451729Dragons complicate things
>>200451934The Iron Bank is such a deus ex machina. They have so little leverage on their borrower.
>>200451487So they should've thrown an empty casket in the water?
>>200451870the Lannisters were actually respectable and competent before they fall apart due to their own internal problems. the Greens have been pathetic self sabotaging jobbers since day 1 and it seems their only role is to become even more embarrassing and self defeating
>>200451984Why not? They burned an empty casket.
>>200451819>I’m notYou absolutely are, you keep repeating this idea that a character has to be likeable/charismatic (I assume this is what you mean about Daemon, and I agree) to be 'good'. I disagree, I think a 'good' character is a consistent character, who is well-acted, and contributes to the plot in a meaningful way, even if they are annoying/unlikeable, like Criston.It would be weird, inconsistent and generally shit writing for this character who has been depicted from day 1 as a weirdly intense, angry and obsessive guy, who happens to be good-looking but is clearly way too neurotic to be a Chad, to suddenly become a funny, confident, outgoing Daemon-type.
>>200451822muh dick
>>200451987>the Lannisters were actually respectable and competent before they fall apart due to their own internal problemssomeone seems to forget what happened after Cersei blew up the pope
>>200451810Why are only whores allowed to work as psychologists in Westeros?
Anyone make an webm of daemon pulling his dragon out of the garage?
>>200452049nigga that was all long after they won a whole war
>>200452078It's an age where people had enough common sense to realize psychologists are retarded
>>200451783why does emma act liek a dyke irl when she is actually pretty cute when she embraces her femininity.maybe im just down bad but id date rhaenrya. she has a nice ass/figure in those dresses too.
>>200452084cant you make them yourself using torrent (for the episode) and Webm for REts?
>>200451729They have all of the Crownlands, stupid.They also technically have all of the Stormlands since House Baratheon is technically a bastard branch of House Targaryen that fused with the leftovers of House Durrandon
>>200451973They lent Stannis money to defeat the Lannisters who owed them more money.
>>200451908Not true, literally not how it worked irl as the French consolidated their crow lands. The king was able to efficiently control large portions of land by the 1300’s, and asoiaf tech wise is like the 1400’s with some1500’s trappings
>>200449327Jace’s actor might be good looking for some people but he is a very bad actor
>>200451735kek no way
>>200452129>>200451987The difference is that the Greens technically win the war and go down as the victors in history.Aegon feeds Rhaenyra to his dragon
>>200451908I’ll add further, this would be true if it was like the 9th century, but by the time of “high feudalism” the only reason the king didn’t control all the lands was because it was already owned by powerful nobles who would rise up and kill him if he tried to violate their rights and just take it, but over time, every feudal socieity (except the HRE) did slowly consolidate all the feudal vassal lands under the crown
>>200450247They had to beg for interactions
>>200452216He's standing up straight and combed his hair. He's come a long way since season 1.
>>200452015I’m not saying he has to be charismatic and cool like daemon, but you’re never gonna get my point so I’m Just gonna have to agree to disagree.
>>200450247>>200452249That did not come across at all in that scene. TGC inventing an entire backstory when the writers just want him to be evil rapist chud is kind of sad
>>200452141There’s a reason we used to consider it a mental illness.
>>200452249>we are at opposite ends of the spectrum, whatever the spectrum is *winks*
>>200449923isnt she supposed to be 3/4 white? how tf is she blacker than her mother
>>200452340Shut the fuck up chud, you believe in elves and dragons but don’t believe in a black folk?
>>200451735>>200452249it's safe to say season 2 is primarily about demolishing the greens in the eyes of the audience as thoroughly as possible
>>200450142Did you mistake that anon for me anon? You know I’m here forever. I don’t think there is enough Ewan posters left, we will have to evolve to hotd/ewan/tom/harry. /
>>200452350There's no elves in westeros, dickhead.
>>200449295you dont like soap opera in castle?
>>200452352someone needs to do the preston dabid book comparison between book greens and show greens
>>200452389>erm ackshually it’s a Valyrian which is more hyperboreanic-aryan then elven m’goodsirAnd yall chuds questions why nobody likes y’all
>>200452383Whoa Margery and aemond have the same :3 face
>manlet's attempt to dominate
>>200451203Some leakers allude she gets pregnant with Cole's child
>>200452306If that were true, we wouldn't have gotten a scene of Aegon crying in his room alone. They clearly want us to feel some level of pity for Aegon
This man is ridiculously handsome no homo
>>200449970Daemon bitchslap
>>200452421>y'allkys
>>200449542I think that as well. but I guess no one truly knows.had to pay attention to leg wound
>>200452421Valyrians aren't Westerosi, they come from Essos, you're thinking of the Chilun of da Forest
>>200452501Milly and Olivia are lucky girls.
>>200452571Milly came out as a lesbian
>>200449542>Greens>Winning anythingyou greencucks are delusional
>>200452258>He's standing up straightit was a hard process after all the teasing he got from cast members and fans
>>200451987Tywin was a complete retard securing his successor. He should have tried way harder to get Jaime released from the Kingsguard and get him away from Ceresi. Having 3 bastard Lannisters to work with for a successor was nowhere near good enough. Jaime needed to have at least 3 more true born kids with a real wife, and then Tywin could have worked with 5 potential successor choices instead of 1
>>200452249>two childrenits over maelor bros
>>200452141What the FUCK?
>>200452641I stand like that too after years of gaming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miPWBDQSMVM>child actor laws tied up Blood and Cheesehuh I didn't know that
>>200452352Pretty much. Fags are calling Aegon a mass murderer for killing 10 people, it's crazy. The whole episode was made to make the Greens less sympathetic. Makes sense considering their target audience is pic related.
>>200452676According to the leaks it would be Aegon who sires him. Unbelievable.
>>200452249The show writers are embarrassed that Aegon is openly married to his sister when the entirety of GoT has Jaime and Cersei secretly fucking. How long did it take show watchers to figure out the two of them were married? Helaena might be an autistic Cassandra-esque character, but you’d still expect her to interact with her husband more
>>200452676Maelor is born later this season, they've fucked with the timeline
So they cut out Maelor but not Joffrey?
>>200452752what in the absolute fuck are you babbling about
>>200452752*aemond
>>200452765why would an actor who has filmed the entire season say he only has two children in interviews
>>200452752>>200452781>the green children are bastards too!
>>200452806Because they're aware that at this point int time, the character has two children
>>200452771>>200452765>>200452806https://ew.com/blood-cheese-house-of-the-dragon-season-2-book-changes-explained-exclusive-8663564>There are a few factors as to why the series doesn't strictly adapt the scene this way. For one, the show is on a slightly differently timeline than the book, which means Maelor hasn't been born yet and the other two are even younger than Fire and Blood depicts. "Maelor does not yet exist on this timeline because 30 years is compressed into 20 years," Condal says. Maelor hasn't been cut
>>200449363
>>200452641I'm pretty sure this meme started from these generals before other SM got it and made it viral
>>200452383my bad. I figured only another ewan poster would keep on using the same (very nice!) picture of him. be well! the costumes are looking better this season, dont you think?
>>200452822you are grasping
>>200451735Sound fake, show cole would let him kill aegon
Reminder, Greens are murderous, traitorous dogs and should be killed wherever they are found. The eternal (((Hightower))) knows no bounds.
>>200452826yeah you probably think daeron isnt cut either cause they mentioned his name. you are hilariously delusional if you think either of them will ever appear on screen. youre probably still holding out for nettles and mushroom too
>>200452826So they’re bringing Maelor in to have him lynched by a mob? What’s the point then??? B&C was supposed to be his big scene. Watching a small child that we’ll spend no time with get lynched by a mob is a complete waste
>>200452830Yeah he swiped it from me, I don’t mind. Need to find some more high quality pics for Aemondposters to use. I don’t have much on my phone at the moment other than rust Cohle and ravenous gifs. Yeah they are lovely this season, the embroidery too is amazing.
>>200452928see >>200452703Blood and Cheese got ruined by child acting labor laws
>>200449363Otto just isn't Chud enough for the Chudgang.
>>200451735These are 100% true, same guy who leakd it is the one who leaked the real title of episode 2 in advance. He's laying out all the leaks on reddit right now and I gotta tell ya greenfags you should stop watching for your own good.
>>200452781 Tom and Phia said they have a “messy” scene on the floor together this season, and in the trailer for the season Helaena says “you know what you must do”. She might be telling Aegon they need to make another heir who will be Maelor. Doubt he will be born this season though. /
>>200452967B&C was Anti Rhaenyra propaganda made by Alicent.
i dont get the point of actively seeking out leaks just so you can cry about them
>>200453017Unless they cut it off. Although it would fit the narrative. Blacks have intimate scenes meanwhile Greens have sex scenes with ominous music playing. I won't be surprised if they turn it into a rape scene instead.
Who's going to tell them?
>>200453017>Doubt he will be born this season though. /Helaena dosen't have more than about 2 episodes at most next season left though surely.
>>200453105the resemblance is uncanny
>>200453017>brb time to get drunk and save the kingdom by having sex with my chubby autist sister
>>200452999It does line up with a rumour we heard when they were filming that Aemond shows up late to RR deliberately. Also there was a guy with a drone that snuck footage of RR being filmed. There was a scene being rehearsed between Fabien and Ewan where Ewan goes to strike something with his sword and Fabien yells at him to stop. / I’ll see if I can find it hold on.
>>200451729Because they spend most of their 300 years of rule going through a cycle of mass-dying from stupid civil wars, disease, and bad luck, barely starting to rebuild, and then it happens all again.>Aegon the Conquerer dies.>Maegor proceeds to murder his way through all but one of his male relatives to steal the throne, then dies himself after years of no kids and civil war.>Jaehaerys takes the throne, manages 50 years of peace and breeding an army of targ kids, only for every single one of his male kids to die before he does, and leaving Viserys and Daemon the only male mainline Targs left. >Viserys and Daemon have tons of Targ kids, only to fuck it all up with the Dance. Targs now have no dragons and only two living males again lol.>Aegon 3 and Viserys 2 do a decent job, have a good amount of kids. Except those kids end up being:>Dareon 1, who gets himself killed young in Dorne.>Baelor who goes nuts and starves himself while refusing to have sex.>Aemon the Dragonknight, who takes kingsguard vows to have no kids.and finally>Aegon 4, who has a million kids, but mostly bastards, and legitimizes them for shits and giggles, Targs and Blackfyres butcher each other.>Daeron 2 is king, does decent job, only for him and most of his kids to die of the Spring Sickness.>Aerys 1 is king, all three kids die to stupid mishaps (his first kid chokes on a fucking pie ffs), leaving Aerys' brother as heir.>Maekar 1, has 3 sons, 2 of which are shit and die early, Egg inherits once Maekar gets his head crushed by a rock.>Aegon V has a bunch of kids and grandkids, then proceeds to go full retard and get them all killed in the fire at Summerhall.>Jahaerys 2, a sickly loser, inherits, dies within years, his only son Aerys 2 inherits.>At this point, Aerys 2's wife and kids are the only living proper Targs.>Aerys 2 goes full mad king, gets overthrown.>Viserys 3, last of the Targeryan kings, is betrayed by his whore sister and murdered by dothraki savages.
>>200453166I wish I had an autistic sister to fuck...
>>200453105I see two bastards.
>>200453105I saw this too and the funny thing is this person thinks Addam is Laenor's bastard son. Do they even watch the show?
>>200453105You really can just say the most random fandom shit and get 13k likes
>>200453191Found it. Don’t click it you don’t want spoilers obviously. https://youtu.be/dXEK4svh1a8?si=pL7a3lYna2T2lTle
>>200453105new ship unlocked
>>200452826Haelena having another kid AFTER B&C is complete insanity.
>>200453105Are they brothers irl?
>>200453105tell them what? let a non book reader fag learn. it's basically how I read the book I guess
>>200453312that's why B&C is less traumatizing for her in the showIt also allows her to be a dragonrider and not just a fucking zombie post-B&C
>>200453255how many are bots
>>200452084>>2004521633000 hours in W4R
>>200452870AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA THEY WON
>>200449327 mogged by his on-screen younger brother
>>200453467Dany will raze the Hightower and rule Westeros as the Empress of the Dragon for 1000 years, bastard!
>>200449542Erryk (black) won in books and the show. If it was Arryk, he wouldnt have called her "my grace" and apologize for suicide
>>200453583Greenchads, I was going to reply to this fool explaining how Bran is confirmed to be king in the books meaning Dany will die, and that the Whents descend from Aemond’s bastard with Alys Rivers meaning the Starks are actually part Green meaning the Greens actually won, but then I reflected on how desperate and shizo it sounds and decided against it.
>>200453654He did it out of regret and his dead brother. Makes more sense than Erryk killing himself
>>200452967They could make it work with Aegon needing a male heir but even then, what would be the point? At most we might get one or two scenes with Helaena pregnant but that's 9 months for the child to be born. Years before he is a toddler. Anything they might want to do with Maelor or have planned from the book is going to be thrown out or absorbed by Daeron.
>>200453583
>>200449238Dont worry bros, we will have more cole x alicent scenes ahead
>>200453674non-canon>>200453739non-canonsource: im grrm
>>200453682Nopeit is confirmed Erryk wonhttps://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2024/06/23/house-of-dragon-episode-2-recap/74138674007/
Though All Men Do Despise Us
>>200453747how come we hacent seen alicent full nude yet? have we? i dont remember season 1
>>200452883I use tiktok for content creation purposes, just for anyone that's going to berate me about it. Anyways, its been a hoot seeing everyone making videos about Daeron and getting hyped over it. Condal confirmed that he's a child with a dragon in Oldtown but not yet a rider. Meaning he must be between Joffrey and Luke's age. Which is completely wrong but it is yet another issue with the time compression they did. They'd have to pull some retcons and time fuckery if they want to include Daeron in S3, which I wouldn't put it past them to do at this point.
Kill targs
>>200453535Elliot grew up fast
>>200453919>Condal confirmed that he's a child with a dragon in Oldtown but not yet a rider.He’s a bastard, isn’t he?
I hated otto so much but he was so based in the last episode.he wouldve been more based if he didnt hesitate to throw the pin.
>>200453951Why are they doing a con in a tent?
>>200453919the only thing they confirmed on the show is that he is in oldtown and not that he has a dragon
>>200453989Old man's rambling vs young kings yoloing the war.
>>200453878>people said I was retarded because I said it was Errykkek I know it was the green victim complex but still.
>>200454042That's what the showrunner said in an interview. They could very well change it, of course, and make it work but that's what's going on with Daeron right now till at the moment. He's a kid, he has a dragon, he's not yet riding.
>>200453909we don't g et shit for female nudity now. went to a damn poppy den with whores and they barely showed anything.
>>200453909Deleted scene. She said there was a alicole sex scene that was messier.
The show clearly divides the good and bad guys, but still it seems the quality took a dip from the first to the second season
>>200453909No more boobies now
>>200454099usually when you make such claims you back it up with proof
>>200449364Targaryens are Indians.
>>200453919Who would you cast as Daeron anon? I liked the idea of Æthelstan’s actor from The Last Kingdom but it sounds like he’d be aged out of the Daeron they have in mind.
>>200453909All the actresses knew from GoT to watch out for nude scenes and to set their price prohibitively high.
>>200451729Because George decided on them just having kingslanding and dragonstone, plus surrounding crownlands back in the 90s so it’s too late to change it. That’s why every Targaryen marriage outside of siblings has to fail somehow because otherwise half the great lords would have purple eyes and silver hair.
>>200454507Not true
>>200454552How am I wrong?
I don't know about all that. But Rhaenyra ends up being dragon shit.
>>200454599Blacksisters, our cope?
>>200454644All men must die.
The downvotes on Reddit for people calling Emma "she" lol. She looked good this ep I normally just ignore any tranny shit but fucking hell why can't you call a woman a woman
>>200454565Almost every time a Targaryen woman marries outside of the family she has children
Twitter
>>200454599Actually sunfyre died pretty quickly after he ate rhaenyra so she technically was turned into half digested rotting sludge
Viserys should have just married his daughter.
>>200454125>She said there was a alicole sex scene that was messier.i think that was the scene in ep2 where they were going harder. im sure in her mind it was much worse
>>200454599Bullshit. She'll win.
The new Jon Snow
>>200454808Nah it was in season 1.
>>200454833retard
Stop making the characters boringgggg
>Mhysa edition by Sara Hess
>>200454847Olivia said there was a messy sex scene cut from the first season. It was likely the night Aemond claimed Vhagar as Cole was missing and Alicents hair was all messy.
>>200454816why doesn't addam have white dreads?
>>200454816They look more like a drug seller than sailors
>>200454954ink dye
>>200455056Why would he use dye when it was an open secret that both he and his brother were dragonseeds?>That Addam and Alyn were dragonseed no man who looked upon them could doubt, though their mother steadfastly refused to name their father.
>>200455095he likes dyed hair.
>>200455122no he doesn't condal!
>>200454919yeah that elle article. she never says anything about it being in season 1
>>200455142he's dying his hair, he must like it.
>>200455161Oh you are right, I found another article about it where she says her orgasm was cut from episode 2.
>>200454954Why does Lord Corlys look black ?
>>200454655All women must ligma.
>>200455229no you didnt just take your licks and call it a night
>>200454655>But we are not men.BAAAAAASED.
>>200455283
>>200455174i will accept a more solid lore reasoning. Until then, condal has changed this without purpose.>>200455236it was an arbitrary decision to make the show have wider appeal or be inclusive or some such thing. if you're going to racebend characters for no reason but have them still look valyrian in terms of hair, then it should be consistent.
>>200454672I didn’t say they wouldn’t have children, I said the marriage fails. Like the vale for instance. Daemons marriage to Rhea should've resulted in a house Targaryen that was in charge of Runestone, but this obviously isn’t the case in the main series so the marriage had to fail somehow when George was writing fire and blood. And Daella Targaryen, her marriage to lord Arryn should’ve resulted in multiple children who would been married off to other lords and ladies and resulted in at least a few vale nobles born with purple eyes and silver hair. But again this isn’t the case in the main series so she dies giving birth to one daughter who marries right back into the mainline branch. There’s exceptions like the baratheons and Martells, but that’s why there’s no cadet branches because they didn’t exist in AGOT
>>200455236Dyed his skin because he also likes dye
>>200454644Rhaenyra's son is king when the dust is settled.
>>200455307ink dye is in the lore
>>200455451this particular character doesn't use it and had no reason to>he likes it and uses it nowwrong!
>>200452806Because they’re given media training by the studio so they don’t spoil the show.
>>200455517he likes it and uses it now, no matter how many times you say wrong
>>200455307You want lore reasoning but you say Condal did it. lmao.
>>200455550>>200455585"he likes and uses it now" is not a valid reason. it is vacuous and purposeless. he didn't like and use it in the source material, and there is no reason for him to like and use it in the show.
>>200455717we see him liking it now and used it
